#💥〕leaks-discussion
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Thanks for the insight!! ❤️🔥
This isn't some marketing joke to us
It's not a fucking scam, it's not bullshit, it is what it is. deal with it
“[the leaked clip] was not up to his [Von Neumann] standards” 👀 in voice chat right now
It's not just "my' standards. We have a team who are the best in the world, I don't want people thinking I'm the one doing this shit, I got a team together of freak artists, it's that simple
100%, I support y’all and understand. I was blown away with the leaked clip. This trailer will be absurd
So yes, I'm gonna be annoyed when a video that isn't showing what that team is capable of get's out
2 weeks away. get ready for a new era
LFG!!!
Kinda have to agree with Von here to be honest...with a gameplay trailer out in 2 weeks, i feel like something like that would have been suitable for after the trailer dropped
You kinda want to build a nice buzz and then show a really polished product.
But it's alright, short-term annoyance and maybe a few words were exchanged but not a big deal by any means in the long term.
As soon as the trailer is out, this is going to be a memory of the past and there would be much more talking points to be had.
I mean, to be fair, this leak and pull that was the result of a reasonably well know internet spat definitely got hype levels up lol.
For all I know, this coming trailer will make me craving for more 😆
lol, Von is fucking with you. There is a method to all madness. Do me a favour and let us do our thing here. The hype is now real. It's a myth. That will be solved in the following weeks.
Dont post it vn doesnt like it
🤣
That was a fun read 😂
I mean i get that its not the finished product and dont think i dont know you will provide even higher quality but damnnnnnnn that shit is clean, looking fucking good boys 💯🚀🔥
Oh i missed the leak
You can find it in youtube
Someone was fast then 😂
Fuck i want to see the leak, youtuuube
Dont find it
someone posted it on the brazilian chat and it rocks
Ok, saw. Amazing!
Where is YT? Have link? I missed it too. Cool stuff happen when I'm sleeping, damn
In #808499666639388682 can see it
Niiiiice. And they say it's not polished? 😄
In #796506693973311549 also
Looks sick af
I thought I couldn’t get anymore excited… 👀👀
the forbidden video!
looks at the file on his hard drive Do I get in trouble with the law now? 😄
gonna keep my doors locked tonight, im too geographically close to Von...
Sorry, didn't know was that secret yet 😮
Why is it more scary when he asks nicely
cuz you don't wanna see him angry 😄
I found it, the leak is out there. Looks awesome 👏 happy I staked another 2 SLP today.
Where,!!
If you guys honestly knew what was good for you, you'd just not try and find it and wait for trailer.
You want to feel the true impact or what? seriously
Sorry Von, we are like kids ripping holes in the Christmas presents on Christmas Eve.
Wait for the trailer people. The goods are on the way.
Take your time. No one can wait these days….respect to you guys for putting quality ahead of impatience
Lets shift our focus on discussing what we are looking most forward to in the trailer,
I'm personally excited to see how the cinematic is going to be like and how it compares to the trailer back in March, think the team is going to do a fantastic job in creating hype 🥳
yeah. This one is a key presentation and has to prove it was worth the delay. So, I imagine it will be quite an adventure
I am so ready to read the FUD comments on how this aint footage from the game itself. Never fails to crack me up
There’s a lot in the trailer that isn’t in game. So there’s that. It’s a hybrid.
Naysayers will find something to spread fud on lol. Speaking of the trailers, is this just going to be released on the socmed of Illuvium or are you guys preparing for a massive marketing campaign especially since Scott and Vanessa recently joined the team?
send the naysayers my way😉
Leak dropped then got redacted lol
twas' epic, but the remains has been scrapped from the inter-webz.... just know the trailer is gonna be insane
Hi guys! Is it confirmed that the gameplay trailer is going to come out by the end of the month. I just read it somewhere here that Aaron (or Kieran) tweeted about it. Because I’m planning to stake before that.
im just counting down the days
Waiting for trailer release is like being in prison waiting to be released. Putting an X on my calendar after each day
for real, i cant wait for it to come out
i regret not downloading the video >.>
hmm im sure someone did
Absolutely do not use projected dates as investment advice. Remember that all dates we aim for are never hard locked in place. It’s not like we embed these things into the blockchain.
This goes for any project we are working on. There are literally more than a hundred thousand tasks in our project so far and that will grow to millions over the next few years.
We always work fast but sometimes things change. For example we were really far ahead with v2 staking and then there were changes which have pushed back finalising it.
This is the case for all development not just our project and not just games.
Yes. I won’t. I just want to have more knowledge as much as possible before doing anything. I’ll do my own diligence when staking. Thanks Aaron. Really appreciate it. 😎 more power to the team 👍🏼
🤓
Would you guys ever hire a new grad down the road? If so what type of stuff should be focused on the most to help?
Yes.
thanks
For the giveaway you have to react to the posts in #🚰〕leaks . This is the channel to discuss stuff posted in there
Did we ever guess correctly the class aaron changed?
Yea, it was guardian to tnak boiii
Lol. Wonder what was changed
competition ?
What do you mean?
sorry. what is the competition you are referring to
There's a monthly giveaway and to enter you have to react to the posts in #🚰〕leaks
Yep, I'm extremely sorry about the state of the character leaks competition.
Unfortunately I'm just too short on time to sort out this.
I know Yoyo got a still image NFT but that was never meant to be the prize.
The V-Ray render farm has had multiple issues with the scenes we've submitted cause the shading is unconventional.
After the gameplay trailer I'll focus on getting all of the winners sorted
We are literally chewing our nails and waiting for the trailer. (hope no one mids me using WE as the Subject pronoun here). I think I'm gonna watch it 200 times and show it to everyone I know 200 times 😄
I assume we have failed him. But is there a specific post you are talking about?
If it's only 3min long watching it 200 times is only 10h I can definitely see someone doing this :)
We're establishing new boundaries. So yeah. I'm sure we can manage to watch even more lol
When you repeat video on YouTube does it count or it's still 1 view
It says read only for me in character leaks?
You react by clicking the emotes under posts ^°
Oh thanks 😆
I forgot about flex tape . . . amazing. Personally I appreciate the lull, don't want to get desensitized 😁
Maybe there getting ready for the trailer launch now 😉
They’ve been so fast posting leaks all of a sudden stopping is a good sign just saying
I do my trailer rain dance every morning in the hopes that it makes them drop it
I think a lot of us are going to be using the trailer as something to show our friends who think we're crazy when talking about a 'crypto' game
Von plz deliver for the sake of our social lives 😋
Yeah just having proof that the game exists and looks good to show people who are skeptical or think youre talking shit
The music tho
A breathing purple tree that blows bubbles.. gonna trigger so many flashbacks 😜
Is it me or is it placed in the arena? Wonder what could it mean... PVE has obstacle assets? Maybe?
Most of these leaks would look good if they were made into an actual lava lamp. #🚰〕leaks message
yo that bubble machine tree is dope lol need a couple for ILV release party!
Anyone figure out the song or artist yet?
I would pay to watch the trailer in the cinema
I can feel the goosebumps with only imagining
Aww man @old sierra I love that we're getting a male playable character but I think the belt line is a little low? Menswear typically sits better near the waist than the hips. Personally I think the codpiece we are left with is a little emasculating.
That's one trippy tree🤪
This is cool
is it possible to harvest recourses from these alien trees?
Resources yes.
But only the harvestable ones.
Thanks Aaron. every aspect in this game just seems amazing. PVE, PVP, EXPLORATION. I need to start a list of excuses to tell the wife😆
I’m not sure what about my answer seems amazing. I would have though “you can harvest all plants” would be better. 😛
Is that one if the plans though?
lmao. still cant wait to play the game even if some things are there for the great aesthetic.
No. Specifically only some. Maybe you will like it. Maybe you won’t. If you don’t like it, sorry bout dat.
No thats fine. 👍
He's been rushed for the trailer, we're redoing him after, or polishing I should say. All this will be sorted
Really don’t wanna be that guy, but posting an event that killed quite a few people as a meme might be a nono in today’s time (or maybe I’m wrong)
@pale tundra ... what event are you referring to? I'm not familiar and unaware
That’s footage from fukushima. I think.
Aha... To live = to be invited to join the epic adventure towards death. To accept such an invite, allows one to receive the gift of Life. If there is no risk and nothing at stake, can one truly experience what it means to be alive???
When Illuvium kills me, the ironic circle of life will be complete
worse happened in 79AD and the loki series make a joke of it
more leaks 🙂
Am I the only one who thinks the squid plant would make a good hat?
Thanks @old sierra

Excellently testicular
Wait 2 weeks and you will wet your pants
lold so hard
Haha don’t want the MVP to get cancelled 🚀
@bleak trout beautiful work Tin 👍
Hmm, what do Giant carnivorous balls feed on?😱
shrimps haha 😄
😂
Thank man.
It would slap you when reaching nearby, ever watch the Wrecking Ball from Miley?
love how people start asking where the leaks have been the last 2 days and Von releases the flood gates
Nice ham 👍
amazing work from the whole team and love the behind the scenes messages😂
Nobody holds back my boy von Neumann
i walk away from discord for 20 min and Von Leakman goes hamsauce on posts 😛
It definatelly seems that some of this environment is made for underwater. Hype 🙂
holy shit Von went HAM!
So many leaks 🤩
Komodo Dragon!?!? YES!!
The 150 illuvials is taking in account their 3 different stages?
i believe so
middle of playtesting @stone aurora "I'm sending you 8 more animations, these are just for the hair".
😂
So 50x3 or 150 each with its 3 different stages
need help playtesting 👀 ?
Not at this time thanks!
aww shucks, saw the opening, had to take it 😛
that bull looking gooood
Very good timing with trailer release coming at a time where BTC is near all time high
Gonna smash through ATH after ATH? 😄
looking good
All stages and lynx =150

Lets go
show that sht to anywhere and you instant VIP man.
idgaf von saved my life, im forever in vons debt
A white, hindu, african. Somebody was just button mashing when they did your character creation.
srs ? As in he prevented you wanting to kys?
i have no clue what you just said lol...dm?
LOL aight
50x3
But not actually. Lynx is quite a lot so there aren’t quite 50. But tier 0 have stages too so there are really more than 150
Is everything done in sets of 3 aside from the lynx?
I ain’t no snitch.
Uhhh, I won't tell anyone. Promise....
I shall remember this betrayal! 😂
Lmao
I love you
The competition:
Brightland Steppes is going to look so fucking cool
Absolute master
Lol I knew I liked @knotty tinsel
amazing
Good doggy
👀
I dunno why but this gives me a Horizon: Zero Dawn Feels
it gives me Von vibes.. snif snif....do i smell herasy?
hehe
I feel betrayed
live with it. Von rick rolled me so hard, if i was human i would have died from embarrassment
😭🤣
I actually dont understand this lol
why do you think your my legal
twitter locked my account, cuz i tuned the ex president of ZA was a piece of shit lol. thanks got ive only been on twitter for a few days haha dam lizard people
lolz
👀try
Let me back read again and get back lol
last leak background is kinda bland.... /s
9 days to go where?
for the trailer I believe
I think it should be, I’m assuming the 9 days means for the trailer, and I don’t want them to be revealing too much before then
9 days? like we'll see the trailer on 29th?
9 days until gameplay trailer release? 👀👀👀 Hype train leaving the station guys
Next stop: 🌝
Man U don’t know Von Neumann, he’s not just making the girls leak..
Is just me or it feels like the arena is to small for the amount of illuvials will have plus the characters ?
Aye I don’t mind if he does 😂 I’m just saying leak everything in one HYPE trailer, no need to be weird and make comments like that
Just joking, I’m sure he will 😉
You aren't hyped enough
that leak was crispy, dear lord....Von Leakman strikes again
Sucks for whoever had to Windex that arena before the leak
I’m sorry for doubting you 😂
dude, im tweeting ex za prez shit that get me 12 hour lock the Trailer so hot
you gave me 30 sec remember
when you eliminate the EGO the universe is yours
im just a demi, vons the gOD here
i would give my right arm for some art lessons from von
im left handed so i score lol
What happens in 9 days?
trailer release
Ooh. Very nice 🙂
do you want to play with me, i got a hidden redit AI link i dear to pick apart
i want my hi res leviathan pic, the leake is the tat
good thing its oct
2008 cs champ
lol i love ilv dont worry
just asking micly
just to let you know im under govermwent cyber attack lol i store everything in my heAD L.OL GOD TWEETS ARE POWERFULLL
I have no idea what you smoke, but I'm not gonna lie, I might want some.
NO SMOKE JUST iq AND RESEARCH AND KNOWING WHAT YOU LOOK AT
IM NOT IN CONTROL LOL
im jnust a failed ue3 dev
if vons vesimere im geralt and i have a ciri
I'm about to get a tattoo of Von Neumann on my butt if this keeps up
dude im crazy officoaly be cearfull
I’ll get one on my penis
Hey @old sierra , lets leak the trailer before the release date. 🙂
when is release date?
29th of OCT
9 days to see ILV hitting 1k?
Is there any word if there is going to be a illuvium equivalent of mew, mewtwo or missingo like legendary status illuvials? Basically like myths
Does look a little smaller but I think it might just be the perspective
if we get another day or two like this I wouldnt be suprised but thats a big if
I kinda had that feeling but i hope is just that feeling, because i think we need a big arena for sure
Historically speaking prices pump during the weekend then a pullback happens on Sunday/Monday. But ILV has been going strong. Anyone selling is quickly bought back up by Bulls :D
its inevitable, thats a 25% pump from here. id be thinking more along the lines of $1200, also take into account alts havent pumped from this btc move yet either.
yeah tiny gains compared to what we are going to seee
30th
thats what we like to see
You can check it out on DEX or binance. Last one that happened was on the 18th and look how it rallied up lol
Probably wouldn't be difficult to scale up
low key super excited to see the market
"Sanctum Mesa Marketplace"
Dat PLANT 😄 Perfect. Nice job @true gulch
@true gulch Could you go further to see this mystery plant? 😆
Ha ha, who needs catching illuvials, all will roam around gazing at plants and vistas😅
@true gulch If what I just saw is what we will get from you, then keep rocking on! It looks great!
thanks! 😁
me 100%
I can see myself wondering around the house with my VR glasses on being amazed by all the graphics and forget to play lol
Would be amazing to watch it in VR, but most propably a 3090 won't be enough for 8k VR Illuvium, lets hope the negst geneartion will handle it 😄
9 days to go before Von Neumann identity reveal?
he said that?
He is batman
mixed idea: Game trailer vs. Movie trailer....he didn't say which one 😄
True, let’s hear what the man himself says about that :b
Because VN is gonna direct it.
Only game movie that I remember being succes is witcher and it already had massive following
And huge amount of material to work with
And I still didnt like it I was surprised it was so succesful.
Might not make a lot of money but may help for marketing.
And Aaron is going to write the screen play.
Movie is gonna be later when game and Rev are big. So, if everything goes through DAO, idk, maybe we get to vote on who to play, or on music etc etc 😄 it'll be sick. ILV is DAO, Blizzard, is not
Yes. I believe it's being worked on
Hail Emil, Vanya and Kendrick
He know's I'm too tired to get pissed at me lol
my theory: @old sierra is one of the warwick siblings, and he's just psy opsing us. After the trailer is revealed, he will show himself
Von Leakmann at it again ❤️
A killer leak alongside ATH...consider me dead now 😄
Had to drop something for the ATH
We appreciate it VN
Next character leak at $850? 😆
lol
NEW ILLUVIAL!!
Or "Illuvatars? I thought they were illuvials" 🙂
Im sure everyone will learn the lingo once we’re in game lol
How about your identity 👀
Haha we already know when that will be coming 👀
After the trailer launches
We have better people than me for that. I just wrote the outline. But it’s coming along well.
You're just being modest. The Illuvium universe is your brain child <3.
Indeed I do. Surprise everyone. We gots a terror bird!
Damn, Phorus looks amazing!!! Still honing in on what Illuvials I get tattooed (Atlas and Dash for sure) but Phorus could make the cut depending on what else we'll see 😄
I need that von Neumann poster over my bed 😏
My first conversation with our new head of Marketing lmfao
Unbelievable
I’m not. I played (and still play) my part. But we have a great team that deserves the lions share of credit.
I already got multiple nerd tattoos but Illuvium is going to get quite some space for sure 😄
This is utter madness like what is even happening
we've got tattoos being slung in one direction, movies in another
We need someone to get a tattoo of someone watching the movie.
lol 😄
Leviathan arena - battle over who has to get the tattoo
Nek minit people calling their children Ramphy.
hahahaha
phorus. god of wind? haha
It's crazy, I wasn't even aware Rogier and Vincent were working on that line because we're so close to having all 150 ideated that the concept team just swarmed onto the environments and trailer
You illuviums guys are smashing it, touché 🤘🏽
ahahaha come at me he says
At this rate Illuvium will launch GTA before Rockstar does
With user ownership of all assets
Has anyone gone back to the early days of the discord?
u mean when it was just the 12 of us? 😮
And just reminisced on how the hype has maintained this level the entire time lol
😮
😂
👀
those are salty times for me... joined in march but just looked at the pretty picture and thought id come back when it launched.... didnt understand crypto and never bought in ti $350 🤣
LOL. and an animator that tried to scam us as 4 different people
Bahahahaha
the nights writing up and drawing up feedback where so fun!
Back when aaron used to try and make art decisions
and we'd bully him for hours upon hours.
that was all you
only to be met with the greatest nft of all time
should screenshot that and put it in leaks
best ramphy ever. and cant wait to catch it in game wuhaha
Ey Team, just so beautifull leaks. Damm this thing is just gorgeous and incredible
Congratulations because you manage day after day to keep illusions and hype very high
Can I please buy this?
I just realised 2 had been sold for $8000
hahahahahahahahaha
yeah who would buy them for that much....😅
Geniuses
Diamond hands
Every time I see @old sierra post in character leaks:
So it looks like this guy.
The largest carnivorous bird ever, the 3m tall, 400kg Brontornis burmeisteri was equipped with a massive beak and enormous claws. As quick as a cheetah, it could also kick hard enough to shatter bone. This bird needed to be strong too, as its prey included ancient relatives of the armadillo, which were heavily armoured and grew to the size of a small car.
https://www.sciencefocus.com/nature/10-greatest-ever-beasts/
holy shit I think we just found a voice actor for Arlen
total unknown
And be we, I mean Nico haha
tiktalik walk is the cutest lol
idk why but i always assumed she would be a silent protagonist?
You know those dreams you have where you fall in love with someone and date them, and when you wake up you feel empty and alone. I had one about Von Neumann
In all 8 months I've been here I've never dared texting him lol.
well, I've never DMed him, so I'm not even close to the guy who thinks he's not the guy 😄
What’s the snake illuvium called and what category/Element does it fall under
What’s the name of this and what is it’s element
Scoriox Magma Arcanite.
Is that the name
Haha yeah! 😄
Name: Scoriox
Affinity: Magma
Class: Arcanite
More help full 🤣🤣🤣
But thanks to both of y’all
It’s supposed to be the titana bowa
If I even spelt it right 😅
I think you mean Titanoboa, but no, it's a Taipan.
Interestingly we DID ideate a titanoboa, but it was a fat snake that swallowed the others. We ended up scrapping it because it felt a little too fantasy. But who knows, maybe it will come back?
Promise me I get it first
He cannot. You will have to be ranger enough to catch it
Ok I’ll ranger with you sensei
👀👀👀
Please bring it back, that sounds epic!
It was going to have to be huge in order to swallow stuff, but I had an idea that might make it work. But we're done with set 1 so you're going to have to wait a long time, and it will probably not happen.
Ok so my idea. The head tunnels underground and eats the other illuvials from below. And spits them out from were it’s head pops up in its usual board placement if they survive. Thus returning the swallowed illuvial to its previous location
As a 4k Hours Ark player, this generation excites me so much. Tons of crossover already
snakes have relatively small bodies/heads compared to the prey they swallow, but guess it would look pretty weird.
Titanor is pretty huge, would have to be a large snek
yea, true, I can imagine why the team didn't go through with it
Im gonna have a Scoriox and a Pistol shrimp by my sides to blast down my opponent while titanor soaks up their damage.
@broken forge if you could not react with the shit emoji on a post that asks "what do you think of this person's work" that'd be great.
Put BULLDOZER in WALLSTREET!
Dude is lookin savage
Is it really called bulldozer? Loving the model but wanted to know if its tail will really be shooting perpendicular like that. Seems strange hahaha
thank you for the next tat von 
These are screenshots straight from zbrush before animations are done
yes zbrush i love that app
tail boner all the time for Bulldozer pls 🤣
Oooh thanks for the clarification. Im really stoked seeing an illuvial influenced from my country. Really great adaptation of the carabao (im assuming).
Is that a tail or are you happy to see me? (says atlas to bulldozer)
lol
von what would i have to do for you to get a 30 min basic totorial with zbrush with you. i have not played with that app in 13 years
would i need higher than v4 as i own that
The water buffalo looks great, it's just the horns look too big/heavy to be supported by the head, doesn't look properly integrated somehow. Just my two cents though
Shoebill and Phorus, best friends forever 🙂 🙂 🙂
that iluvial is going on my thigh
These are meant to be contrasting. Shoebill is 'good' and Terror Bird is 'evil'
When sculpting they need to make sure that everything is straight so that there aren't issues when animating. Think of it like a T-pose, but for quadrupeds.
I think Terror Birds colors are making him look less evil
Good cop/Bad cop vibe 🙂
I would try to pet the shoe bill. I aint getting anywhere near that terror bird.
I think I would mess with Terror bird over a cassowary. Unless its like 8 feet tall. Then its just a giant velociraptor.
I wouldn't risk petting either!
Dear god, Are shoebills that terrifying too?
I dont know why im surprised if its beak is the size of a human foot.
They also cool themselves by pushing their spines through their throats.. wtf
I DEMAND the idle animation for shoebill includes it shoving its spine out of its throat! /s
Truely terrifying.
+1
dam that thing really is evil
That would be cool 😄
Huhm, am I the only one found it's creepy af?
terror bird gives me a Velociraptor vibes
I find the spikes on the back legs a bit out of place and excessive.
It’ll make sense with the poison thorns growing when it procs its omega ability
Now it looks like a "toy"
I really hope future Illuvium titles have mount capabilities! Carabaus would be perfect for that!!
Agree!!!!¡!!!¡!!!! 💯
Seems a bit pokey
Just gotta have a poison resistant saddle 
I think how they are perfectly pleased, can't wait to see final product
well...that looks healthy 😄
That's because you don't know its omega.
quality still way up there 👍
those horns are lit, damn!
I want me the Magma collection complete!!!! This shit is on fire and pokemon+++++ cards!!! @old sierra they move when pulled from the deck or when looked at in my inventory?
The cards look sick!!👍
Are the NFT artworks going to be animated? They are looking sooooooo good!
Maybe not certain. I think we forgot
Yeah definitely didn’t get that one right
I may have the time to update our affinity/class chart next week.
Are there illuvials that look like dragons ? 👀
Lol they might LOOK like dragons. But they aren’t. That’s actually a running joke around here
We know how a special SOMEONE hates dragons 😄
Thats fine I’m just a big fan on the art work of dragons you guys are awesome tho thx for the quick reply 💯
Illuvium is definitely the Pokémon killer 😂
Omg these nft cards look good. Damn im gonna spend so much money on those.😂
!opensea
Collectible Illuvium NFTs are already available on Opensea https://opensea.io/assets/illuvium All are limited edition. The emotes and m0z4rt skin NFT's are redeemable in game. Upon use, these NFT's will be burnt when applied in game. This is only true for these emotes, skins, and badges as they were bonuses for the initial ILV token sale.
There are also partner sets of very limited collectible NFT's. Those collectibles are not for in game use, this is so everyone has a fair and balanced start when the game is released. You can find out more here: https://illuvinati.gitbook.io/illuvium-archives/official-nfts
Do we get revdis on opensea sales? Wrong channel, sorry.
No
i like you, remind me to get you a beer
I like you too but I need to run background check I might come to you at PE but what would we do 💀💀💀
lol how low key you want to be im a ninja
🙌🏽still avoiding my question
is it a question you want to ask in public?
exactly you answered your own question
I’ll dm you in a few kazimoro
im about to plug out so make it qick
what platform is this game going to be in?
Q1 2022 PC/Mac latter part of 2022 itll come to mobile
Thanks!
Every Nft rendered 2160x2160
4k
Fully animated 300 frames
I dont quite understand the implications of everything but I see big numbers and me likey.
Holy crap. That's menacing and looks like hes about to join Tekken and beat the crap out of Jin
balrog inspired leviathan wen
7 days
Lord almighty 😱
Hands down best Illuvial. Period.
leak.exe
Man seeing my favorite Pokemon and favorite Illuvial side by side. It's not even a fair competition.
there really is something amusing about putting them side by side
I need it’s class name etc please provide the info
Kinda wish we could rename our illuvials which can be seen in PVP as well.
inb4 the entire community renames all their rhamphyre's to "fire dragon"
I feel like nicknames could be easy to add. Maybe they will do that in the future
Plebs! Imma call mine... "Bob"
Then we have a damage/kill leaderboard of our illuvials which the community can see. "Bob" - Kills XXXXXX. Imagine the value you create for your illuvial. That infamy and rep!
Not a leak in the traditional format. But we're putting the finishing stages on the movement for the Overworld. And it is utterly sublime. Feels so good to just move.
I can't wait until you guys get to see this
I mean you could show us now if you don’t wanna wait….😉
you tease.
So good, our @granite musk came up with a super unique concept for the mag boots. And we've tweaked and tweaked it to push it
And it's so freaking unique, and fun, and cool
then the <@&834039250298208306> crew came by, and did the effects...
and just utterly knocked it out of the park
I swear I'm just gonna frolic 
and you know how @stone aurora is our lead animator and is ex marvel right. Well marvel has alot of flying/jetpacks. So he's just utterly pro at the animations.
so you feel like an absolute superhero
You guys just found the gspot of Zyonik lol
Absolutely love to hear that!!
Did y'all hire a full time Easter egg 🥚 placer 😅
Yeah me mate
Ohhh snap
I'm hiding Vons real identity behind waterfalls
Yeah think so
Jeez man
💀💀💀💀
is it weird that i dont watch porn anymore because i use character leaks channel
Yes, Thats very weird.
I did say a base affinity or class changed.
It was just the one time!
I’ll burn this place to the ground before that happens.
You can name them. This is their Type Not their name.
I will say I have no business coming up with third person movement mechanics.
Also I think what happened was the team took my dumbass idea and said “if he wants it we better make it good”.
So I take no credit. The team have been godlike the last month.
<@&794843404097028106> How are you guys all so damn good?
You are gunna love the dating simulator I’m working on.
I have a talent of swearing at my computer until eventually my code works, not sure what to attribute that to.
Wow the one time I make a horny comment in here it's a dev to respond
glad we have the council to protect us from this
will use ILV to find women
Reading that made me feel things.
At first you said dating simulator as a joke, but... I dont know if its a joke anymore.
I want to date von
lowkey
or do we...
I am sure Aaron implies on a breeding system in future updates of the game🤓
^ great way to trigger him
did you dragon breeding system?
I was too dumb to recall. So was everyone else apparently… since none helped me figure that one out.
At some point, you've joked so often about this that you actually need to deliver on it 😄
Is he perhaps referring to a breeding mechanic that will be implemented in the game?
I highly doubt that. Fusion as a mechanic is there to create a burn mechanic for Illuvials and combat inflation. I can't see them add any breeding mechanic, at least not unless forced through an IIP via the council 🙂
You about to change the slang of catfished to tiktaaliked or wut 
4 is the tier. It denotes the rarity and general strength of the Illuvial line. It also informs what level of shard would be optimal to capture it.
Ooh thanks !!
These character leaks just show how good the game will be 😍
Can't wait to play
The last part, I'd like to add a small disclaimer to. Initially it might be reasonable to expect that shard tiers correlate with illuvial tiers BUT considering the bonding curve, we could very much reach a point where using anything but a Tier 5 Shard on this Tier 4 Illuvial would be unreasonable 🙂
Wdym by bonding curve?
Illuvials at Tier 1+ are on a bonding curve which means that with every copy someone captures of a particular Illuvial it will get harder to capture another copy for everyone until eventually a set is retired and replaced by a new one 🙂
Oooh I got it
So if lesser illuvials remain of a certain set of tier 4 we might need a lvl5 shard to capture them right?
Let's say (HYPOTHETICALLY!) catching this Tier 4 Illuvial with a Tier 4 shard gives you a 90% success chance. If you succeed, the next time someone tries to capture that Illuvial (doesn't matter if it's you or someone else) the chance would not be 90% anymore. It might be 89,99% now. And as more copies are captured, the chances for success to capture this illuvial with any shard drop and eventually you might have to consider to take a Tier 5 shard for that Tier 4 Illuvial to still have a success chance that is reasonable enough to even try 🙂
Oh I understood that part. But then this makes it a bit based on luck right? And if we're unable to capture it using the shard the shard goes to waste?
It is possible that you do not succeed when trying to capture an Illuvial, yes. In that case the Illuvial manages to flee, but you do not lose your shard then 🙂
What is the cost incurred then for trying? Won't there still be other Illuvials you can catch in that sphere you travelled to?
It is possible in certain situations to capture multiple Illuvials from a single encounter, yes. As far as I am aware, every try makes it more likely to have some/all of them flee though. So you kinda want to go for the one first that you absolutely want because you might not get the chance to try and capture all. How exactly this will play out and what the numbers are etc, I don't know yet and will probably change during beta anyway 🙂
ah, I see, cool. Thanks for explanation
Phorus my new fav!
Sweet leak. 7 days to go!
every day with a leak is a good day 🙂
what's the countdown re - feel like i missed a massive memo lol
Actually, I dont know myself. Was hoping someone would clear it up. Haha
Are you asking what the countdown is about? If so, it is until the new trailer releases
ah thank you thank you
also when vn doxxes himself 🙂
It costs you money to travel to the region. It's not a huge cost to miss out on an Illuvial but it is built in there there is some sort of opportunity cost.
Woah trailer in 7 days. How did I miss this news?
I don't like the word 'copy' in this. It would be nice if there were minor variations in what these 'copies' look like.
I am fairly certain there are, I seem to recall aaron mentioning something about the chance for each illuvial you catch to have a certain stat or something like that, that is different from every other "copy"
WOW! Synalph is a higher tier Illuvial than Sear, 🤯
I remember the same thing, but I'd like to see optical differences, too. (Don't like to imagine a clone army of identical Atlasses.)
(Atlantes?)
Me! I am counting! Have been ever since the initial trailer delay!
Would we be able to know the time the trailer will come out. Please 🥺
All subject to change.
We are running Ai simulations to get things as close as possible to being balanced.
Thanks VN, this game is exciting, keep up the good work!
OMG Leaks look like the next up and coming game of the century
are the holos like shinies in pokemon?
are they stronger than normal or just for looks/rarity
Not sure if it has an affect onhow strong they are but I know its rare to find these out in the wild.
Holy fuck these leaks are sick, the nft art for the illuvials is perfect, so clean and shows everything you need, i thought singe looked badass but then i saw sear 😆
Didnt think we would be getting this many leaks with the trailer this close but im loving it, 7 fucking days baby !!!
Also im sure yous know but the evolution stage indicator for the archie line of illuvials is off.
yeah i was confused about the stars at the bottom left
Fuck yeah, games always underestimate how the movement feels, so many times it feels clunky and unnatural, keen to feel the smoothness!
Oh man that last leak with an overview of so many Illuvials.... 🤤 🤤
I can't even begin to express my excitement
Is Archie or Archos the first stage? From the leak it says Archos is stage one and Archie is stage 2? 😕
Interesting; I can see that now that you pointed it out. I think it is supposed to be Archie>Archos>Archeleon but maybe there is something we don't know yet
Yea that's why I wanted to ask in this channel. I'm sure that's the case too but if it's a mistake, just wanted to make sure it got pointed out! 🙂
I think it might be a mistake since both the Atlas and Rhamphy lines follow that 1,2,3 pattern.
is synalph a two stage evolution? or they just not leaking the third
Like I mentioned above, these are "temporary" inputs with a high chance of mistakes being made as we are basing it on nothing atm
Some are taken from aaron, some direct from florian etc, this is the joy of sharing WIP leaks ;P
Just assume we are flawless gods and all mistakes are intentional until game release lol
lol sounds perfect!
So was the class / affinity change rogue —> phantom ?
hahahah you have my complete trust my flawless god! 😛
I love waking up to new Leaks! This plant is amazing, whoever made that well done!
LOL, this is what makes the project next level. Authenticity of the devs 💛
Everyone is an expert who just gets to have fun going next level while having the confidence that at no stage in the pipeline will their work get cucked
We have no deadlines and no hand holding
still, a year on
The best things are always made like that ☺️
At this point the team is a snowball going down hill (in a good way lol), you'll grow so powerful and organically that anything is possible. Over taking Blizzard is inevitable!
Will Illuvium be anyone can play kind of game, or another game for big whale?
!f2p
You begin our game with a free-to-play experience that immerses you in our richly-detailed world, lets you enjoy some action, and helps you understand how the game works. The free-to-play experience of the Tier 0 regions will familiarize you with Illuvium, and won’t feel like an “abridged” version of the game. It is a full-fledged gameplay experience! If you like it, you can then decide to opt in to the paid experience, start collecting NFTs from higher tiered regions, and delve into deeper adventures to explore the mysteries of the game where the NFTs you gather start to hold more value as well.
Just after game launch, when everyone starts fresh, you might even be able to sell free Tier 0 NFTs on the IlluviDEX for ETH, but there is no guarantee for that.
Unfortunately you will be disappointed then. Unless you get one of the different finishes such a 'holo' they look the same. It would be an unfathomably large amount of work to keep them looking iconic and also have variations in their looks so that every single instance looks different. They do have stat differences that make them unique.
Not saying it won't ever happen, but it would have to be done in a way that doesn't detract from the look.
Stat difference will be amazing for PvP, min maxing 👌
Ranked will use base stats afaik, Leviathan arena will then have full potential unlocked
Don’t forget pve
Love the leaks! Will Holo Rhamphyre have different moves / skills than Rhamphyre!?
Different material
No stat boosts
Illuvium is going to be my grind
I absolute love the picture of the collection of Illuvials. Instant flashbacks to the purple book that came with Pokemon Red Blue.
The only thing that confuses me is the green background that is the same for Rypterius and Archeleon even though one is overgrowth, and the other is poison?
Look like different shades to me 🤷
How about minor differences in skin color and fur length, for example? I imagine that, if their illuvials were unique in some such ways, that would make people feel so much more attached to them. Not to mention the increase in realism. It's more work, sure, but I don't see how this would threaten to make them look less iconic. Anyway, thanks for clarifying!
It obviously helps that they have different stats, but it's a trifle strange that that doesn't go hand in hand with optical differences.
I mean, it doesn’t seem to have held back Pokémon. 🤷♂️
A different era.
But sure, it's not a biggie. Just channeling von Neumann's perfectionism here.
I'd want small changes in Illuvial sizes too, but ppl responded to it like I'd be an idiot 🥲
Its a huge ask for them to take all 150 different illuvials and give them all different appearance traits within each model, thats a lottt of variation and work, definitely cant see them doing that, and it definitely would not be on their to do list right now. Maybe in the far away future, but i wouldnt get your hopes up for that.
They could possibly release purchasable skins for illuvials?
Really odd. You'd expect those illuvials to come in different life stages, too. So there should be juveniles, for example.
I don't feel like having minor changes in the sizes would be that difficult to implement 🤷
Varying an existing design, in ways that can be combined programmatically, seems more efficient than coming up with dozens of new animals. IMO
ikr
same for colors
Illuvials size plays into how it can be positioned on the battlefield so having the same illuvial come in different sizes wouldnt work
theres already different stages of each illuvial, cant you take that as its different 'life stages' ?
come on, we're talking about minor size differences.
plus, there are major size differences among different kinds of illuvial
I could, but then I'd be confused as to why they have different names
I feel like the unfused illuvials will be the juvenils. The lore should explain it all though. They said the phases and what the illuvials are would all make sense once you understand the lore.
Changing colors for every individual illuvial is a lot of effort and takes away the need for skins, which they have been giving away. Since every illuvial is different. The artist's work would also not be paid if they were making small changes to T0 illuvials while selling skins would give their time significant value.
Im not against small differences, like in Pokemon Male/Female or since pokemon Go Big or Small. But making every illuvial slightly different and having it look good will take a while.
Caterpillar - cocoon - butterfly Why are they called differently 🤯
"The artist's work would also not be paid if they were making small changes to T0 illuvials while selling skins would give their time significant value."
The artist's work is 'paid' by the fact that it makes for a better game. As for skins, you can have minor differences among illuvials while still selling skins for that extra-awesome look.
Are we going to know exact % when we are trying to capture illuvials, for exm tier5 shard is giving you 95.16% and tier4 68.54%
I hope we're not spoon fed that information but they have a metric which tracks the number of encounters per illuvial and the percentage of captures/attempts with what type of shard used. In other words, there's a site we can bookmark and get live stats based on everyones experience
Yep something like that will be very good to have site where we can check % in that moment to make a plan for that day
So say rhamphy has an encounter counter with percentage rate of capture and further expanded to show the number of times and percentage of successful capture using a t1 - T5 shard.
If shard is completely empty is it more powerful than half full shard?
from what I know, shard tiers correspond with Illuvial tiers, in the sense that corresponding shards are most cost-effective at catching one
ofc, this can always chance due to bonding-curve, or market demands etc, but that is what they are aiming for
Not completely sure, sorry. I do remember seeing a leak screenshot that showed illuvials listed after a battle to decide what to try and capture and there were some bars indicating success chances but whether or not that still is going to look like that and if that also gives away the actual % per shard tier, no idea 🙂
And what about this one @gentle tusk do you know anything?
Of course I'm talking about same tier in this case
I don't understand what this is about, sorry. A shard is either uncured = cannot be used to capture anything or cured for a fee (T0 is free) = can be used to capture something. I'm not aware of any "empty/full" states for shards.
Shards are like pokeballs, they either have a pokemon in them or don't :p
Ah no t5 shard is like a ultra ball. One Illuvial per shard and the higher the tier shard, the higher capture rate
Thanks that's why I was confused i was sure how we can have many illuvials in one shard, great videos on YouTube can't wait to see what are you going to create once when they give you more ammunition :)
No worries! There's a lot out there to wrap our heads around! Thanks!
In regards to character skins and variation, it will come, but not before I am 100% confident the base Illuvials are Iconic and imprinted onto the community.
Less is more. I can't understate this enough.
I'll be doing AMAs and interviews very soon to clear up all questions like this.
Oh. Is that the reveal we've been waiting for? 😄 Can't wait now
I guess we will be blessed with Von Neumann interviews once when trailer is out
Nothing against Kieran and Aaron but I would love to here more from Neumann
You're going to be hearing from all of the leads and team more
Can't wait to hear from them.
Y does ramphy have a choker bit kinky
😂😂 in all seriousness cant wait to see the rest of the illuvials 😍😍
I have a question about the Illuvials, all Illuvials from the same model are going to be same or some change will occurs making them unique as a NFT.
So we can expect to see regular interviews and amas on our official YouTube channel that place is so empty it's depressing to see one upload per month
Ok thanks
It would require an entirely new way to program them so that attack ranges would still be the same but look correct.
It might look easy from the outside but at some point you have to trust me that just because you think it would be easy doesn’t make it so.
Stats being randomised is actually a huge thing, bringing a lot of possibility of gameplay, otherwise there is no problem with no design singularity, the illuvial's design are already amazing.
Not as planned.
I prefer seeing new sets of illuvials than making other variation and skins. If the devs will make a MOBA game, thats the time we want skins
Agreed. The idea of making every creature unique in some way because real life animals aren't all clones is kind of a ridiculous ask. I don't think people understand the amount of hours and work that has gone into creating this game and making things look AMAZING. I think @dusky quiver posting that photo with the Pokemon and Illuvial next to one another speaks volumes.
Besides the fact that it would affect battling due to the varying sizes, etc.
There comes a point where things become too complex. I think the amazing artwork paired with Holographic chances or Dark Holographic chances AND variable stat differences is enough to provide uniqueness from one Illuvial to another. Pokemon has shown that visually can be the same while statically being different, which being the world's biggest IP speaks volumes.
As a gamer, most aren't going to care if their Illuvial has 1/2 inch longer hair than other. But we will care about stats and holographic/dark holographic
When (maybe) VR is out in a couple years and you can actually groom your illuvials then it would be awesome though. I agree that rn is definitly is not the right time for it. Wouldnt that be something? 😂
VR will be amazing, looking forward to that day
Oh man just to even walk around in the world of Illuvium in VR.... 😍
Fly *
Thanks for the correction lol. Dunno how I forgot about flying! It'll be like lucid dreaming!
I think of Illuvium as being more of a game with the best graphics in the world with crypto elements rather than a crypto game. You guys are on FIRE! 🔥
halcyon sea 
imagine posting screens not from the game 
Imagine? No need. I already know where to look 😄 beautifully done as always.
i'd say it's more of a thwwpwpwpwpwpwpwpwpwppp than a fhehwjxbdhakx
Dat quality. I guess I need to by an 8k screen. 1080 doesn't do it justice lol
ya'll need to stop making reality look so boring. 😛
Grey British sky vs Halcyon Sea
You and your memes. You know VN loves JP right? 😄
Lol
@granite musk How is the total number of Illuvials on the bonding curve determined. Say there are 1 mio players and there are, in total, 5000 Tier 5 Ramphyre to catch, what if the following week there will be 2 million or 4 million player? Does the total number of Illuvials scale with number of players, or how does it technically work?
There are no concrete answers yet. Right now we're doing simulations but beta testing will help massively.
I feel like the luminosity + contrast in the latest trailer leaks are so high for my little eyes
Ok, will be interesting to see the solution
My eyes may be malfunctioning at this point lol
There is no fixed number. The more people catch the harder they are to catch. And then at the end of the set they can no longer be minted.
So we only know how many there are AFTER set.
Can you clarify something? I thought all Illuvials would be available to catch, albeit at a greatly reduced rate, even with future sets. I thought I recalled this from an interview with you that for example, even if you join the game on set 3, there's a remote chance you could find an Illuvials from set 1
There was the idea to have a FINITE amount of remaining Illuvials from a prior set still to be captured when a new set comes out. This was not confirmed yet though as actually happening. Also not sure whether such a change would require council approval or not by now.
Ah cool that makes sense. Hopefully we can get some clarity. I'm happy either way, I just remember hearing that and thinking it was pretty cool for late arrivals to have a small chance.
Personally I would still have to be convinced of this. As I have shown in prior discussions, I am absolutely someone who very carefully looks at things in a way to make sure that joining this DAO remains attractive for newcomers. When it comes to the scarcity of the individual sets though, I am a strong advocate for having a clear cut. If set 1 retires, then that's it. No more. This is not a stance that couldn't be changed, but personally I haven't seen any arguments yet that were convincing enough 🙂
No.
Imo, a small percentage is okay. I don't think it should be liberal. I'm thinking like maybe a 1% chance of their regular encounter rate. But it's just a thought. I can totally see the pro for both ways
I guess we have to make sure to catch what we want when the set is out! Or else hit the marketplace!
identity reveal soon or always anon? I respect either decision
It costs me more to claim my staking rewards than the rewards themselves
You can wait to claim, where your rewards stack and when gas is lower. There are calculators to determine how long and when you should wait for profit
Been around 3 months
Let’s move this to #🥩〕staking
If the leaks are this good imagine what the unleaked looks like
When we getting the next trailer 😅😭
OK makes sense, thanks for clarifying
There is a reason that Pokémon don’t reprint set one packs. One of the things that we are hoping to create is something like people desperately trying to buy set one Charizard.
The reason that works is because they are rare and you HAVE to buy from someone.
The advantage we have is:
Nobody can counterfeit them
We know exactly how many there are (nobody is going to find a stash of boxes in a warehouse to reduce the price.
Thanks for the detailed response!
I totally understand the logic. It was just something I was misremembering from one of the interviews. I can see how it would be neat to be able to catch the set 1s but realistically, there's much more value added in having that Charizard effect. I remember how sought after those cards were!
Unlimited T0s, and future sets with adjusted bonding curves to match player adoption.
I was just referring to making sure enough exist for people to catch and build decks with.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but if there is a bonding curve, then that’s the limiting factor right? There will be way more in the “wild” in the beginning, but as more of that illuvial get captured, the less that illuvial appears
How about when you will make a MOBA game and and a specific illuvial is one of the choices in playing the genre but that illuvial has been sold out in the marketplace. How will you guys accomodate those players?
Ahhh okay, sorry, I thought rarity was the factor that determines bonding curve, but it still starts with how many we decide to have in the first place?
I don't believe the intention is for T1 - 5 Illuvials to be incredibly rare as far as I know, aside from the Holos and Dark-Holos. If Rhamphy is an S Tier unit in PVP but only 1% of the player base can own one, you're going to have fairly big issues with balancing and PVP. Sure, your NFT might be valuable, but your game is teetering on non-functional if it's like that for a ton of the Tier 5's. If it hurts gameplay, your playerbase dies out, and it all goes in the toilet. I don't know that Ensuring Rarity for non-holos is even part of the plan.
I believe the intention is that active players should theoretically be able to "Catch em all" and the scarcity and value come from increases to the playerbase after the fact when they can't be caught anymore.
If you draw on the Pokemon example @granite musk uses, assuming you played Pokemon during the base set, there was plenty to go around. It wasn't truly rare until years later.
Maybe it’s just me, but wouldn’t it make sense to make it infinite copies to capture?
we don’t have to worry about oversupply because as more illuvials get captured, there will be less illuvials overall (but the higher player base still means higher chance of encounter for an individual)
Sorry if I’m ill-informed, just trying to get an equal understanding
Ah sorry, missed that. But yeah target supply should always hit because the player base determines the rarity based on bonding curve, no?
Sounds like there wont be 'hard cap' just a progressive increase in difficulty.
You can search messages for "bonding curve" if you want more info.
Yeah that’s what I’m saying, so that’s why it can be infinite, and shouldn’t be a finite number, right?
What an amazing way to programatically express FOMO, that's awesome ☺️
Ah I’m sorry, I backread like 5 times and I finally understand. So you want the equation they will use for the bond curve, correct?
I think johnny mentioned in the past that they'd just need to make a simple tweak to change the bonding curve and in the scenario that lots more people join , it'd just need a council approval
Fusion should help a lot too with creating scarcity. 9,000,000 ramphy only makes 1,000,000 ramphyres.
No we don’t?
Because set 2 will still have many of the same illuvials, just different versions of them.
In any ranked mode we would do the same leveling and fairness we do with the auto battler.
I don’t think anything I said goes against that.
Sorta like thr different tft sets?
Absolutely, it was directed at those asking how scarcity was going to be assured.
Yeah. Except in tft they don’t bring back the previous ones (well they technically do) but in ours they will just never leave because people own them.
Just want to clarify, if player base increases, will there be a need to change the bonding curve for more Illuvials to appear?
We don’t have a target supply. And it isn’t theoretically unlimited, it IS unlimited.
The chance of encountering something depends on its weight. If you capture it, that weight goes down. Meaning the next person is less likely to encounter. However that is only relative to the rest of the set.
Popular catches get rarer faster.
But there is no number that we input. We don’t say “there will be X Atlas”.
The rarity comes when they can’t be caught anymore. The more popular the game is, the more will be minted. So supply goes up with demand, ensuring everyone has a chance.
However the chance of CAPTURE depends on the shard, and how many have been captured previously. So they become a bit more expensive over the course of the set.
Supply meets demand, but rising prices affect that curve. The more expensive to catch in the wild, the more people would rather buy from each other, hence limiting the supply and finding a moving equilibrium.
No.
Okay thank you! This was my initial thoughts and a much needed clarification
Yes. But because they go up in theoretical price to catch it does put a downwards pressure on what the total will be.
Imagine some crazy scenario where it takes on average 100 attempts at catching rhamphy with the best shard. You use energy to try and capture and that is fixed per travel. And it costs you to travel.
So you might not even try to capture it as it will increase your travel fees by a lot to try. So instead you capture everything else.
Now the weight of other stuff is low, making rhamphy less rare to encounter. So now you think “why not give it a shot” and as such more get captured…and now he’s even rarer, etc.
Whatever it is,it will find an equilibrium. If it’s cheaper in terms of work and money to catch. People will do that. If it’s not, they will buy from the market.
The more are bought on the market, the higher the prices should go. Making it cheaper to try to catch.
What will happen is that volume will increase at the start, and level off at the end of the set. This is ideal.
I assume all stage 1 will be relatively easy to capture seeing how you still have to burn 9 for stage 3 and they will also all have stats affecting their quality
I think that’s how magic the gathering is. Initially the new cards are worth more but as more enters the market, price does back down
also, assuming same bonding curve, demand for set 2 will be much more concentrated at start, thus driving prices higher I'd imagine
You’d think that, but remember there will be more games. And these can have different uses in different games.
What if Ruby Red Rhamphyre is really strong in the dating sim because of those luscious lips?
Genesis owners will still want to catch them.
This is the true key. A universe of games. (Basically an excuse for me to make games until I’m like 80 years old)
Easier, but tier is the main source of difficulty.
Rhamphy will be harder to catch than Axodon, probably.
Remember that time where your MTG cards were usable in a dozen different games across genres? I don’t. 😉
Yea, that makes sense. But I assume with an eye on accessibility of ranked arena, that they will still be relatively easy to catch? I like how the weighting system doubly enforces price movements because of meta's. First of all certain Luvials will become more sought after, which ensures they will be caught more, which then ensures they are heavier weighted and harder to get, so it kinda puts the breaks on supply, which means price swings can be volatile as the meta moves faster than the eco-system can catch-up
I’m not but of course that will be a thing.
I’m saying very directly that set 2 will have demand because set 2 can function differently to set 1 in game 3,4,5…
Genesis rhamphyre looks like it would use aggressive dating strategies. Set 2 might be more suave or seductive.
omg🤣
Lmao you’ll spend a lot, don’t kid yourself.
It would seem that it would always be a good investment though assuming the game becomes a success, seeing how they are definitively limited after set 2 and there are burn mechanics in play, I think Warwick even hinted at some other unannounced evil plans to burn more of set 1
ha, yea that is true
I probably won't even try to get the high value ones, but I do hope I will complete a collection of all stage 1 illuvials
yea, put it that way, should be doable, which I am glad to hear, since it will make ranked arena quite accessible to most people
I imagine they are not? That would mean they'd have even more Illuvials, plus all the different stages?!
But who knows
gotta safe some for set 2 and work ahead though
to make sure we don't get bored and stuck on set 1 for too long
Hype!
One thing to keep in mind is that some illuvials aren’t released until later in the set and balance won’t be perfect at the start. Because balance is based off the WHOLE set.
We have the illuvials set up as data files even if we don’t have the set fully done. So we will test them all in beta. Maybe even let people use them with placeholder art. Maybe a cube Slayer.
talking about balance, it made me think, could there possibly be some rebate system related to the bonding curve in order to ease the pain of balancing decisions if at all necessary? It would be far from perfect, since it would be hard to take into account 'collateral' damage done by invalidating certain compositions, but you could compensate players depending on the weighting changes after a balance change. For instance if an Illuvial is highly sought after and thus has a high weighting, when he gets balanced, he might become 'trash' in the eyes of the players and his weighting would go drastically down, the difference between these two weightings could be correlated to any possible compensation to holders of said Illuvial. In this way you ensure some parity between the impact of the balance change and the amount of compensation
I do think it might be handy to think about some sort of compensation system to ease balancing changes, I know the goal is to not have to make any, or compensate perhaps with later Illuvials or a new set, but however hard you try, I think it'd be quite impossible to emulate the collective interactions of millions of players and billions of games played.
People should just take into account possible future balance adjustments, it's a safe assumption if you buy something that is op it will get nerfed, likewise people might speculate on illuvials that are not very useful. Compensation just opens a can of worms, ideally balance changes would be reasonably frequent and dealing with any compensation probably isn't necessary
I don't think they are aiming for frequent balance changes at all though. I agree it's a can of worms, but the weighting mechanic would place a community decided value upon the damages done by the balance changes which could be a good measure. Then again, if prices of stage 1 Luvi's are cheap enough, this would be far less of an issue
I also think if we take what Aaron said about other games with the same Illuvials, that's going to maintain value in one even if it's changed via balancing in another
true
So even if it's less valuable to you, you could sell it to someone else who considers it valuable for the sister game
it's mostly a concern for people who are new to the game, buy a 'meta-team' to play and then after balance changes are left with a team perhaps worthless now for the new meta and they could feel like they lost their investment and need to buy a new expensive 'meta-team'
I would be absolutely and firmly against any possible compensation due to balance. That sounds like a really bad idea for a number of reasons.
fair enough, I must admit such a system would always have a lot left to be desired, but coming from CCG-scene, so do balance changes on their own
I am just worried that the game might eventually suffer due to a hesitance of balancing because of possible backlash from the community
In most online ccg games it's pretty common practice to refund cards which have been nerfed. While not ideal, I think it is better than not doing so. I am sure it's a different story for Illuvium where there is an open market-place but I do belief it will still be an issue for at least some people
Have I ever appeared hesitant because of backlash? 😛
I'll only be buying the least powerful Illuvials 😉
#balancespeculationgang
Yo the Illuvial dating sim can be a legit game, anyone played Monster seeking Monster by jackboxgames?
If you swap Illuvial for Monster in the description below we are on to something!
I think Aaron has already designed the dating sim lol
He did say he had over 5 GDDs prepared. Who's to say one of them isnt the dating sim 😄
Where do I sign up
i believe that the illuvials will have bonus stats over and above the standard stats. Will these Bonus stats be visable after capturing the illuvial?
Before as well. You have to beat it to own it.
If i captured a stage 1 illuvial with the a certain stat then after fusion can players choose what stat will carry over? Or will the highest stat carry over? Or stat will be randomized after fusion regardless of capturing an illuvial with the highest stat?
I really hope a Illuvium wiki or something is made with the base stats of illuvials so players can be compare what they are fighting to the base stats and decide if they want to catch it or not
That information will definitely exist.
Yea I didn’t really have any doubts hahah! This whole gaming experience is going to be soooo sick!
im guessing once the community is in the game there will be many places to find stats and strats
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Will there be anyway to increase a specific stat? like a rare berry that increases speed or accuracy?
Haven't seen anything like that mentioned. If I had to guess I would say implementing something like that is unlikely.
Considering we'd have to beat it like any other illuvial would the difficulty in beating it be the same as a non-holo of the same type? Or are they buffed?
None of those options.
Not as planned.
We have a very comprehensive internal wiki. Shouldn’t be a problem.
Holo doesn’t affect difficulty. It’s just “yay you encountered it” and then if it flees “end me now”
That’s great to hear! I’m glad you guys have that covered already! And man, I really want you to know how much we appreciate you seriously! We know how hard you’re working to make this happen and we really couldn’t be more grateful!
This is both welcoming news and sad news lol. Thanks for the confirmation!
How are we going to sell illuvium keyboards if people aren’t breaking them.
Was there a release time for that yet? Pre-Open Beta?
Maybe never. Let you guys earn it.
Lol
Are the affinities fixed? Or Could we hope to see in the future sets have metal, shadow, light, dark affinities?
Maybe. Stay tuned.
Nice, good they called him Rake and not Hoe! 😆
man these likes are just a big turn on Omg legit counting the days and hours untill trailer and then launch soon omg
graphics so dang good it will probs make my pc explode
I love fern omg
I can feel the power behind that beak, please stay away 😅
so clean
Loving the nft leaks
Fern -> Fernite (sort of a paladin) -> Blazenite (Conflagration Paladin)
Will sort of be juxtaposed with the 'evil' Terror Bird
Meanwhile Kukka is just goofy AF.
Paladin or not, that beak means business 😅
iwas like emotes before scrolling down. hype was building, can't wait to see the final evolution. . . .then rake showed up. . . . . still cool tho 😂
Blazenite is scary AF, but its a good guy.
Like Batman 😅
I think we had some issues with both Fernite and Blazenite that made us have to go back and do some textures again. Blazenite isn't done yet.
So you might not see Blazenite for a while.
POG i sense blazenit will be conflag
But I think you've seen their Omegas?
We have not
Maybe you sensed me saying it about 10 lines up?
You've definitely seen Rake's.
oops sorry wasnt checking past
Oh yeah rakes, not the birds
You won't have to wait long.
It's pretty sick too.
Omegas are like final evolution right?
I know 🥰
or mega evolves?
More like a ultimate move
No. Their Omega ability is their 'final ability'
Z-move if you know Pokemon
ohh i see i see. saw it waaay back
In our game so far they only have their 'Attack Ability' and their 'Omega Ability'
Boom button ✅
in future games we might need more.
synergy attack might be cool
Yeah I could see that, maybe even talent trees for move unlocks
ramphyre and the ram. tossing the ram updown hahaha
More skills hints a moba genre
MOBA illuvium is a must. but 5 years from now maybe 😄
how dope is it that we're just chatting here with a freaking cofounder
Feels new right? Hahahhaha
or ARPG, FPS, battle royale, dating sim....
Aaron only has small time so make it count
when MOBA illuvium comes I'll sell all my dota2 items for ILV
That joke will never die 😅
JRPG?? nope? haha
might as well start selling now tbh
I just finished writing a document on Refocus rules to make the combat units a bit less stupid.
Since I'm done I'm just taking a bit of a break.
Good place to chillax
appreciate it aaron
But when it comes to esports scene moba genre shines above all. Viewerwise
Dota2, league, what else is there?
Knowing the illuvium team. They can definitely make it in 1-2years😁
Hon died, well maybe ml and unite
dnt jynx it. 😄
Epic games is making a 3d person moba as well "Predecessor" i think?
Mobile moba. Right now ML tournament in PH reaches atleast 200k viewers per livestream
Not quite! Epic isn’t making Predecessor.
Epic Games originally made a 3rd person MOBA called Paragon but shut it down after Fortnite started doing well and they needed to shift their resources. A newer group called Omeda Studios picked up on that… using Epic’s assets to try and rebuild what Epic previously shut down…. and looks like Epic will have it on their launcher
Aha! Good call!
Did anyone see that leak… or was I hallucinating…?
it was mis-leaked 🙂 if that's even a word lol
We need to make dating simulations great again
That last illuvial looks both fiercely savage and cute as hell. Don't know how you guys pulled that off but mad respect. 👍
So if I fuse one holo and two normals is the evolution holo or normal?
What was the leak?
shhhh 🤫 ....you'll see it on 30th.
Damn ohk 😂
In fact nothing really new, but we may respect VN decission to keep it for the future!
You get 33% chance that itll turn out as a holo
So two holos and one normal is 66% and three holos 100% cool thank you