💬〕general

[vagrant anchor]

fraggy I'm dying over here. you are on a roll

[young moss]

Gm yall so meany leaks today, looks amazing 🤩

[left nest]

Oh nvm then

[acoustic ridge]

which fuel is for traveling crypton or solon?

[near pier]

Fraggy is the gatekeeper to beta

[lusty mantle]

Check the pinned messages in #🎮〕illuvium-zero

[lusty mantle]

Why do you hate me

[quick spindle]

Crypton 🙂
Also pinned in this channel!

[lusty mantle]

Somebody should clean up the pins a bit 👀

https://tenor.com/view/no-nooo-nope-eat-finger-wag-gif-17369109

[vagrant anchor]

I'll do it

[lusty mantle]

Gas is spiking, oh right we don't care anymore

[quiet glen]

A T1 (#12109) just sold for 3.5 ETH. I wonder what's the reason for that high price.

[vagrant anchor]

gotta be megacity

[quiet glen]

Yeah, looking at the map.

[final plume]

What's gas?

[lusty mantle]

Exactly

[red yew]

Is the game off chain? Or is it’s own chain

[lusty mantle]

!imx

[tidal garnet]

Illuvium uses Immutable X as a layer 2 solution. This means that you won’t be charged network gas fees for minting and trading and instead only need to transfer funds between the Ethereum Mainnet and Immutable X. This keeps the player's cost of doing business low, maximizing potential gain. For more information about Immutable X check out:

#🔗〕helpful-links message

[vagrant anchor]

this 1st land sale involved on-chain transactions tho

[lusty mantle]

Yes but in the future everything should be on L2

[red yew]

Ah it’s own layer 2 solution. Nice.

[vagrant anchor]

imx wasn't made by illuvium. but yeah that's what is used

[vagrant anchor]

and the land sale was automatically minted to IMX too, so you can see the lands on the IMX marketplace now.

[mental radish]

guys im in the bathroom and out of toilet paper

what do i do ? just took a massive dump

[sage imp]

Biggest downside is you have to move your funds to the L2, and IMX withdrawal takes over a day

[summer shore]

😏

[lusty mantle]

TMI

[alpine trout]

just scrape it with ur hands ur fine

[vagrant anchor]

use USD cash and then trade it for eth.

[mental radish]

im calling 911 fuck it

[lusty mantle]

More transactions makes it go faster so if we have more people using it, this will be less of a problem

[mental radish]

that worked thanks !

[vagrant anchor]

high five!

[mental radish]

btw i was kidding just trying to get everyone's attention

[lusty mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-dafuq-what-the-shocked-gif-16230812

[sick ore]

go for it 😂

[alpine trout]

thats some splash art right there xd

[young moss]

Stomp it down the hole

[mental radish]

i used a summoning jutsu to summon a toad to get me tp

[summer shore]

Jiraiya Sensei

[lusty elk]

floors slowly rising on secondary, it was as low as 0.3 if I recall correctly at one point

[fervent idol]

surprise revealed?

[minor ledge]

yeah bit by bit. some marketing wouldnt hurt either ahahah

[lusty mantle]

No

[spring flax]

hi

[red crater]

gmgm

[mental radish]

RIP

btw u guys are cool

[red crater]

thx

[mental radish]

i love how this is a dao not some ruggy cash grab

[red crater]

you too bromeo, nice g00blin

[fervent idol]

is there a way we can see past transactions on the imx marketplace? kind of like activity on os?

[red crater]

immutascan I think

[mental radish]

tenkke youw i heevvee whole femely of gobin haehehaea

[rich saffron]

How to get into that gate? 🙂

[lusty elk]

I should have maybe bought more, but I guess we'll see what happens when the game rolls out

[summer shore]

@mental radish Hope you would put your jutsu to good use in the game

[alpine trout]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-let-me-go-inside-i-should-come-in-open-the-gate-gif-16171434

[near pier]

I heard fraggy is looking for a dinner date

[rich saffron]

😄

[lusty mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-it-mark-wahlberg-quit-it-stop-quit-gif-10247679

[lusty mantle]

[livid raven]

is there a place where i can find the fuel and elements breakdown?

[fervent idol]

tnx

[lusty mantle]

Pinned messages in #🎮〕illuvium-zero

[near pier]

There may be a giveaway for #981427337734266920 in the future... gotta support those supporters making us viral you know

[lusty mantle]

And here I am trying to be mysterious about it

Rich gotta destroy all my fun

[covert violet]

https://infoluvial.io/iz-resources/

[livid raven]

Thank you! in your opinion what are some of your favorites?

[covert violet]

I heard Crypton might be the useful and valuable

[slender island]

Every resource will be valuable

[covert violet]

crypton being responsible for travel might be the most valuable though

[sick ore]

sounds good for me. have my lands with crypton

[vagrant anchor]

land owners will have converters.

so in theory, if one fuel is in higher demand, people will convert the others, balancing out the supply and making the fuel worth roughly the same.

[half valve]

tier 5 sale might be a big thing for that if it goes for a good price

[covert violet]

conversion needs time and resources and 10% loss

[vagrant anchor]

yep. obviously they won't all be perfectly equal

[sick ore]

do you think there is a chance to get t5 für 100 eth?

[minor ledge]

good point. was it announced when that will be happening?

[slender island]

I think its too low

[half valve]

not that i know of

[sick ore]

think so too... damn...

[slender island]

I am wondering who is so wealthy to buy it … saudi Arabia?

[minor ledge]

does IMX have a "activity" tab where you can see the sales of land like on Open Sea?

[slender island]

Immutascan

And i think on imx rarity you can see history of each land

[minor ledge]

Thanks

[fading oasis]

May I know the secondary market for lands is at OpenSea?

[uneven night]

lake 3x crystal 3x and hyperion 3x t2 is good ?

[sick ore]

you can convert everything in other materials. so t2 is good : )

[slender island]

Immutable x or illuvidex (lower fee)

[uneven night]

thanks i have 4 t2 but no city or no close to each other and i cant build city. i hope there is not much difference with them. i can sell my fuel.

[near pier]

Lol just trying to save them a life time of regret not signing up for it

[livid raven]

does anyone have any insights on which illuvatars will be for their region?

[lusty mantle]

OS does not support IMX yet

[sick ore]

4x t2 is really nice

[charred lily]

Just one travel fee to catch several illuvials with several shards... do the maths :)

[lusty elk]

Hey guys, will there be some kind of a native scholar/rental system in the game that allows folks to borrow resources in order to play the game and split the revenue?

[onyx fern]

Wasn't there supposed to be a big announcement after minting was over? (i'm not trying to be offensive, genuinely curious)

[lusty mantle]

Soon

[vagrant anchor]

yes. it will be a while, but yep

oh you mean the main game, not the land. not sure, then.

[charred lily]

where did u see the 10% lose ?

[gritty ermine]

where can i buy an illuvium shirt like Andew's?

[sick ore]

good question : )

[lusty mantle]

Nowhere yet

[gritty ermine]

wen

[lusty mantle]

Official dates will be posted in #📣〕announcements when they are known.

[winter imp]

can you capture multiple illuvials in one trip

[gritty ermine]

wen illuvium underwear

[lusty mantle]

#863267087715270686

[gritty ermine]

i'd buy an atlas pijama

[molten granite]

Is it known the expected game play time to catch 1 illuvial? Is it going to be like 1 per hour or just flooded our inventories with like 1 per 5 min? Hoping for it to be tough cuz otherwise illuvial NFTs won't be worth much if everyone has 30x copies of each illuvial

[gritty ermine]

i want to buy it with silv2

[slender island]

I think more like one per day … if players will be lucky

[lusty mantle]

Hmmm don't know if this would be possible

[molten granite]

That would be awesome

[left nest]

And you get like the useless wurmple illuvial😂

[slender island]

The less chance to catch and more problematic it is , the more value it has

[molten granite]

Exactly! Would ruin the sense of accomplishment to catch a rare illuvial if it's too easy. Plus it's better overall for long term sustainability - players won't get bored by catching all the illuvials in < 50-100 hours

[slender island]

Thats why it is „rare” … it supposed to be hard to get

[onyx fern]

Can people tell me the trait equivalents on TokenTrove?

[left nest]

It wont be that fast but will be more than 1 a day. Also depends on how many runs you do

[slender island]

Imagine 300k players … doing the same - trying to catch one

[left nest]

There are hollows right? Or something like that

[molten granite]

Yea but "rare" is subjective and could mean a wide array of definitions. If commons appear once per minute then rare could mean once per hour. I would imagine it's gonna be like we're discussing that commons are maybe once per 8 hour session ans rare is one rare per say 25 or 50 common encounters

[onyx fern]

I'm sure the value comes from empowering the illuvial

[lusty mantle]

Holographic

[left nest]

Ye

[slender island]

Och i just visualised catching the holographic one lol 🥹

[left nest]

Imagine its your first and you are like, wait this isnt the right color lemme get rid of this

[lusty mantle]

Hahahaha

[royal scaffold]

I have this info : If you don’t have a given Element or Fuel site, you can build one of the Converter structures, which lets you convert one Fuel to another (or one Element to another)** at the cost of time**

[left nest]

10% isnt that bad

[outer hull]

imagine not catching it .the pain

[molten granite]

What are odds of holo appearance?

[lusty mantle]

Small

[outer hull]

probably easier to win lottery

[molten granite]

Lol yea I'd hope so but any idea on range like .01% or .000001%?

[lusty mantle]

I don't know

[molten granite]

Ok fair enough, I can wait til more details are announced. Just hyped AF for this game 🤪

[rose patrol]

Keep in mind… your best odds will be on day 1…. Second best odds on day 2………. Third best chance to get the holo will be day 3……..

[molten granite]

Why's that?

[rose patrol]

I plan to pack most of my Illuvium play into week 1

[languid silo]

There will also be dark holos....

[languid silo]

I guess we all do😂

[rose patrol]

Odds of capturing them go down as more people capture them…. So you’re going to work much harder a few weeks in than you do on days 1 and 2….

[left nest]

Wait lol

[languid silo]

And week 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 break, 11, 12, 13,14

[rose patrol]

Yes then week 15 will be harder… 16 harder than that…

[molten granite]

Wait is there like a set number of ulluvials that will exist and you're saying once more holos get caught then there are permanently that many less in the hard capped pool of illuvials? @lusty mantle

[humble trail]

Only if people continue to catch. If everyone takes a break then week 17 will be similarly hard as 16 :]

[languid silo]

Kids will have taken over at that time and I can just chill and work my land

[humble trail]

There is no hard cap. Just an indefinite scaling of difficulty and reduced capture odds.

[rose patrol]

They call your chances of getting them are according to a “bonding curve” but what it means is as more are found and held, the odds of the next person finding it go down

That said… I believe if people don’t want them and merge them, your chances of getting the ones no one wants go up

[languid silo]

Would that go up when people start slaughtering illuvials for skins?

[molten granite]

So potentially we get to a point that it could take a week to find 1 illuvial? I kinda like that idea to reward early adopters but the decay rate will be interesting to set cuz too little and the market is flooded with illuvials and too much then ppl get bored cuz the grind it crazy hard right away

Is there a way illuvials get "burned" so that they get recycled into the wild?

[lusty mantle]

Bed time

[obtuse patrol]

No. You'll find them constantly, what gets difficult is catching them.

[humble trail]

It wont take a week to find the illuvial but the capture chances will decrease and the illuvials fighting power will increase.
So the fights will become harder and the odds of capture will decrease :)

[molten granite]

Ah so the catch rate is the variable item. I like that

[red crater]

cool didnt know

[pseudo flint]

your not at @humble wave level if you still need sleep🤨 😆

[grand trench]

Hey what is the floor price for tier 1?

[lusty mantle]

Never said I was

[final plume]

You gonna miss my food pics
Jk gn

[left nest]

Imagine an atlas destroying your full 8 team😂

[lusty mantle]

Good

[molten granite]

Is there a mechanism to "burn" illuvials to reduce the supply allowing catch rates to not be drastically reduced. Like do we need to fuse multiple stage 1s to evolve to stage 2 etc?

[obtuse patrol]

Yeah so variables are catch rate, and the catch chance is affected by what tier the illuvial is and what tier shard you're using.

[red crater]

wonder how long it will take in the overworld to capture enough illuvials to field a whole team

[left nest]

3

[novel oak]

yes they also have to be at highest level before you can fuse them

[obtuse patrol]

You can only have 8 illuvials on your field...so...1 run? Lol. Maybe like an hour or so.

[left nest]

Wait there are tiers in shards👀

[red crater]

wut? Capture 8 illuvials in 1 run? 😄

I thought it would be way more difficult to capture them

[fervent idol]

wait wait wait there a sec. we need at least somewhat-friendly environment for new players with 0 budget for this to catch on with masses. how is that gonna happen if catching illuvials becomes very difficult a year and a half from now for someone with a bad deck?

[obtuse patrol]

Yeah. Tier 0-5. 5 being the most expensive and most surefire way of capture. All will be player mined and the fuel required to capture or..."activate" the shard will be supplied the DAO and land owners at a ratio of 1:19

[novel oak]

A new set will come out

[left nest]

T0

[fervent idol]

can you explain that in bit more detail or point to an educational material on the subject(no links), please?

[left nest]

New OP illuvials i guess

[obtuse patrol]

You can capture plenty per run it just depends on level of investment, how tough your team is, and what fights you can win. If you go in with a solid team and shards prepared I see no reason why you couldn't catch 8 illuvials in a run. You have to win the fight to have a chance to capture.

[civic mason]

When is this chad that is too nice and helpful going to be an ILV mod? 🤔

[humble trail]

New players would eventually have to grind T0s before entering a T1 run, or buy them at a highee level I imagine.

[left nest]

There are enough mods i think

[obtuse patrol]

Oh me? D'awwww. I'm plenty busy though lol and only going to get busier as time goes forward. Gonna be working hard in my ilv zero fields

[novel oak]

Not sure where to find info but lets say after a year they will stop making the set one illuvials and set two will be dropped in the overworld and those are the illuvials people are catching now. Time frames and such are still unknown.

[civic mason]

https://tenor.com/view/farm-farming-gif-14334740

[fervent idol]

thank you

[obtuse patrol]

It seriously needs to be way shorter than a year though. I'm hoping for between 3-6 months. A year is far far too long. Players will need something to be excited about to keep playing. Also, I imagine after a year the bond curve would be impossibly high

[novel oak]

I think Aaron talkes about it in the interview with Vetemor . you can find it on youtube

[patent kayak]

kinda like in pokemon. Gen 1 was 150, Gen 2 was 100+ new ones, gen 3, etc

[fervent idol]

when you say it depends on your level of investment do you think acquiring fuels and stuff through land ownership?and what do you mean you need to win for a CHANCE to capture? doesnt win guarantee capture?

[fervent idol]

will try to find it, thanks

[novel oak]

yes i think it depends how how many people are playing. more players the quicker. Also you have to remember they have to build a whole new set which will take time so it cant be that quick

[fervent idol]

i really dont know anything about pokemon but i will look it up

[obtuse patrol]

No win doesn't guarantee capture. That's where the bond curve comes in. Win guarantees the chance to capture.

[pseudo flint]

https://tenor.com/view/all-of-this-pointing-up-there-see-this-gif-14720503

[fervent idol]

and after that is just chance? no 'keyboard inputs' or skill etc, just luck?

[novel oak]

i think you have to shoot the illuvial you want with the shard and then its chance/luck? but not sure

[obtuse patrol]

GGG is a game studio that runs path of exile on a 3 month update cycle. They are busy but the game is great and free.

Plenty of other games are on a quick cycle. Games get boring. It needs to be highest possible quality and short enough to where people don't get bored.

[astral summit]

Probably asked before (did a quick search on "beta" and didnt find anything concrete) but are there any known plans/ dates when more rangers will be let in the private beta?

[fervent idol]

thank you for the info

[primal fern]

So how much eth will the cheapest illuvitar cost?

[obtuse patrol]

Skill comes in exploration of the overworld as well as the actual battle mechanic to start it. Also positioning and composition of the teams you're using. I dont think they need a stupid catch gimmick of keyboard inputs on top of everything else. It wouldn't fit the style either.

[minor mica]

Good question! Hopefully they are cheap

I mean they have to be cheaper to the T1 land I’m guessing

[royal gyro]

I want to play beta. Who do I pay off?

[novel oak]

become a twitter raider

[minor mica]

Hey get to lvl 5 in here and then become a twitter raider and you can get picked for the next Batch

[royal gyro]

How do I get a twitter raider? And check my level

[patent kayak]

#981427337734266920 and #👑〕bot-commands !rank

[pearl meadow]

Nice

[royal gyro]

Sweet. Became I raider, I think? What's that about?

[red crater]

cheers bud

[languid silo]

This is such a great picture.

[patent kayak]

the discord will notify you of tweets from the team and such, they want us to retweet and help push it out to the public

[royal gyro]

Got it. So who do I contact when I'm at level 5? 😆

[patent kayak]

its not that easy. i wish it was, guy got rude with me earlier cause i havent been a ranger or twitter raider long enough

[dense kayak]

@languid silo yes

[delicate shuttle]

Will ilv zero start before overworld with a week or 2 to let land owners play the game without being forced to buy fuel? To not fall behind?😅

Not fall behind unless they buy fuel i mean 😅

[patent lynx]

Will it be possible to contact landowners to negotiate landplots?

[royal gyro]

You asked and got denied? 😦

[sage monolith]

Is there a training aspect to the game? Like leveling up your illuvials?

[languid silo]

Pretty sure overworld will get pushed a fair bit as well as Ilz will been in alpha and needs to go through testing before hooking up to the main game

[royal gyro]

Yes. You can also combine illuvials of the same type to make an "evolved" version.

[covert vigil]

Hi guys anything new about post land sale surprise?

[sage monolith]

Cool. The evolution I knew about by combining three. But haven’t seen anything on how to level up.

[patent lynx]

nothing I heard of

is tier 5 auction dates confirmed yet?

[royal gyro]

I'm still learning as well. But I'm pretty sure leveling up was mentioned in one of the videos I watched about Illuvium. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

[patent lynx]

Yes, u will need 9 of a same kind to evolve it to the highest form

[patent kayak]

nah, just was talking/asking questions like you. i registered in January, staked ILV and bought land, but since i havent been a daily grinder in discord, havent earned it in their eyes

[fervent idol]

i didnt say they needed it at all. english isnt my first language so maybe my phrasing is a bit off. the point of my question was: after you win the battle, is it basically just waiting for 'virtual throw of the dice' to determine whether illuvial is captured or not.

[sage falcon]

hey guys, how much do you think is this here tier 3 land worth? https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/land-sale?selectedLand=679_412

[long zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-beast-dollar-dollar-bills-usd-stacks-gif-19759060

[pearl meadow]

I’d say double what you bought it for

[sage falcon]

🔥🔥🔥

[royal gyro]

I see. I'm sure they will recognise your effort eventually 🦾 Let then know that you have a Phd in beta testing 😂

[quartz warren]

who won the ilv land sale giveway 🙂

[patent lynx]

good question, havent seen any anouncements regarding that

[stable egret]

Wen rev dis?

[pearl meadow]

It was announced on twitter I believe

[polar wagon]

hi

[patent lynx]

U sure? Im following them on twitter also

[royal gyro]

Unknown, the amount is pretty small though. was it like 4k eth amongst all staked ILV or something?

Most of purchases were made with ILVs2

[obtuse patrol]

I'm reading through now so idk if someone told you, but there are also stats in the game. So 2 illuvials of the same type can have different quality levels.

[sage falcon]

I think it’s like $1/ILV all good just first one to get the ball rolling

[plush bear]

We still need to see how much we collect from t5 sales

[royal gyro]

Oh yeah. Forgot about that. Might go for high price.

[sage falcon]

I bet ends up around 1-2k ETH per t5

[pearl meadow]

By Kieran

[plush bear]

will be a spectacle for sure

[plush bear]

pretty sure that was kieran personally giving away T1, the 5 T1's have not been announced yet

[pearl meadow]

Oh ok

[sage falcon]

so now that I have a land, what can I do with it? can I play the game?

[red skiff]

Taiga Boreal and Abyssal Basin together looks like Westeros

[royal gyro]

In 4 weeks. If they keep to schedual

[pearl meadow]

I’m sure there will be a lot of news once t5 sale has ended

[plush bear]

alpha in 8 weeks

[patent kayak]

the schedule got pushed back to 8 weeks

[sage falcon]

Hey my dudes

[pearl meadow]

Is that confirmed ?

[royal gyro]

Ah ok. Thanks man.

[plush bear]

not official but this is the unannouced guess from the team

[sage falcon]

Did we get surprise already ? :p

[patent kayak]

nope

[sage falcon]

oh, I see, thank you guys 🙏

Surprise is 8 weeks push 😦

[obtuse patrol]

Essentially yeah. I think that's the case. Either you get it or you don't. But...the early players will have a much greater advantage of catching things.

[sage falcon]

will alpha be only for land owners?

[vale aurora]

Wanna test !

[plush bear]

Nope open to all!

[sage falcon]

Is that real thingy ? 8 weeks instead of 4 ?

[vale aurora]

but only owners can earn

[patent kayak]

as far as i have seen today, yeah

[vale aurora]

was 4+ few days ago

[obtuse patrol]

It's literally 1$ per ilv you have staked. Why do people keep asking like it's any significant amount lol

[sage falcon]

[plush bear]

No earning in the alpha until game launches, but land owners can keep BP's found

[sage falcon]

can I do anything with my land atm?

[fervent idol]

yes, this is it

[plush bear]

Stare at it everyday, that's what I do 🙂

[sage falcon]

What is your speculation on that surprise ?

[long zinc]

the most important thing...FLEX to your friends

[plush bear]

A trailer of some kind

[patent kayak]

rumor is it is a trailer

[final plume]

Cuz it will also pump the ILV token on the pool and they might want to flip/sell 1 sec after the purchase?

[sage falcon]

Noice !

[plush bear]

the last trailer dropped was sick

[royal gyro]

What is the best resource on illuvitars?

[obtuse patrol]

If they buy before June 30th I'd be extremely concerned

[final plume]

• Checked in a rush if there was a new trailer that hasnt been shared on the discord yet

[sage falcon]

hahaha, oh you guys 😂

[plush bear]

hahah

[red skiff]

thats true

[grand trench]

What surprise guys?

[storm orchid]

Sup

[remote cedar]

[royal gyro]

Unlock? Or what do you mean?

[crude dagger]

Do you have a link for the schedule? 🙂

[obtuse patrol]

Yeah. They shouldn't buy it before the drop because obviously...you want to get the most for the 4000 eth.

[uncut belfry]

Where can we buy land sales on secondary

[open leaf]

illuvidex, immutable x, tokentrove i believe. although illuvidex you will save 2% on fees

[uncut belfry]

Thx

[normal python]

So we're 8 weeks away from IZ alpha. Is this a novel way of saying illuvium main game has been significantly delayed....again?

[royal gyro]

Yeah, expecting some sell-pressure until unlocks end or game takes off.

Whichever happens first.

[stark heath]

really like this project

[obtuse patrol]

"Some" lmao. Well release of game is AT LEAST 3 months away. Considering the alpha for ilv zero is out in 2 months...honestly id expect more like 6-8 months until open beta for ilv.

[covert violet]

what was the schedule for the main game

[sage falcon]

Another trailer would be epic

[royal gyro]

Not sure if you are rude or not, hard to tell in chat. Just going to assume you are not. Buy yeah, most people underestimate development time. I'm a dev myself, I should know.

[normal python]

Really? Last official date I was aware of was Q2 of this year.

[patent kayak]

im hoping by Q4 but ya never know

[covert violet]

yeah look like we heading to q4

at least we get to spend some time with IZ

[twin venture]

GM sers

[brittle night]

do we can buy land on opeansea ?

[twin venture]

IMX marketplace ser

[brittle night]

why not os ?

[pseudo flint]

i think you are been extremely pessimistic with your guess. I am still hoping for july / august for open beta. Lirans stated they were pushion fo q2 so i don't think july augest is unreasoable. We have not herd from the team any announcement of delays inthe magnitude of what your suggesting

[worn rivet]

@brittle night any IMX marketplace (TokenTrove, etc)

[normal python]

We wouldn't need a IZ alpha if this was the case. As much as I wish what you say is true I seriously doubt it now.

[winter grove]

Gm

[south meteor]

For how big this game is going to be let them take as long as they need for it to be perfect

[winter grove]

Just woke up

[pseudo flint]

still if what final dawn predicts is even remotely possible i think we would have herd from Aaron by now in a announcement or medium dev blog about a delay of that magnitude

[obtuse patrol]

Solar...you'll learn lol. Like...I dont wanna say you're delusional but...without ilv zero past alpha...how would people play the main game? The alpha is going to at least take a month... we don't know if there's a beta after that.

Alpha for land is at least 8 weeks away, confirmed. So I don't see how it's reasonable to expect open beta release in 3 months. Maybe 8 months is being pessimistic yeah, 6 months though...idk. maybe I'm just going based off of history

[normal python]

Looks like we're back to the community having to blindly speculate on release dates again.

Least we don't have $70M+ sat in assets doing nothing for months to come. Oh wait 😬

[patent kayak]

my thoughts were similar. with alpha 8 weeks away, and likely a month or two of alpha data collection. likely minimum four months. then betas

[covert violet]

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-you-tyler-perry-madea-madeas-farewell-whats-wrong-with-you-gif-18251457

[plush bear]

https://tenor.com/view/fud-gif-23986683

[lusty elk]

With games you get just once chance to make a first impression, if the first time experience is shit it’s hard to recover

[pseudo flint]

Yes well am going on what is stated by the team when Aaron confirms there is delay in a announcement or dev blog then ill believe it .

Don't you thin spreading opinion like that when you don't have any more info on the back end than the rest of us is a detriment to the

**heath of the community **
the moral of the CC and
undermining the integrity of the brothers themselves?

[normal python]

Little bit of fud every now and then is good for the soul 😌

Can't be reverse bearish everyday

[plush bear]

nothing wrong with concerned community members, really wanted to use the gif though aha

[patent kayak]

Lucius said it in IZ chat today if i remember right

[lusty blaze]

thanks

[normal python]

Said 4-8 weeks which is 8 week in dev speak

[crude dagger]

Do you have a link from where your getting this 8 weeks for alpha?

[patent kayak]

type in Lucius in the search bar and read his messages

[crude dagger]

I see ty 😄

[lusty blaze]

maybe he edited it

[patent kayak]

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[obtuse patrol]

Nope. I think being realistic is best. I used to go based off of the teams (Kierans release date). I've sense learned that no matter how optimistic he is with his dates, I should follow logic. I dont think it undermines anyone. In fact I think setting up the team by giving unrealistic dates is undermining their moral...

[strong dome]

So 8 weeks is the surprise from kieran?😂

[patent kayak]

hopeful its a trailer but yeah, that was a bonus

[normal python]

It's the gaslighting that gets me.

"Alpha launch STILL planned..."

Like this was already common knowledge 🤔

[lusty blaze]

exactly GHamster, like it was already common knowledge

[pseudo flint]

Well i disagree . The team has never given firm dates on anything. I prefer to go with their estimate rather than any community member that is basically guessing without any knowledge of the back end. If teams estimates are wrong so be just relax and wait for updated estimates the point is it will be ready when its ready there is no need to put a community made time line on it.

[somber burrow]

When will the other lands be sold? Are there any signs? Q3, Q4 or next year?

[oblique slate]

no date for the other sales

[patent kayak]

when demand calls for it, but likely a year+

[left nest]

defenetly next year

[somber burrow]

ok, thx!

[outer hull]

No, delays are not surprises here, we are used to them

[outer hull]

Firm dates is not saying it will launch on a certain quarter?

[dusky coyote]

Few weeks wai is nothing, I been staking for just about a year now, and with my rewards it will be another year in staking, so even a month or two dele won’t affect me

[lavish orbit]

I love the sentiment, from all hype to all fud in a day

[outer hull]

Totally agree

[quaint storm]

If I constantly pushed back my "estimates" and my excuse was, "well, I never gave a 'firm date'"... I'd definitely be out a job lmao

[spiral copper]

Love the after mint FUD…. Good for buying more land 😎

[normal python]

Still worth calling it out when it happens. I love this project and always want to see it do better

[pseudo flint]

no that is an estimate we are looking at launching in Q2
frim date we are launching on may 2 2022

[lavish orbit]

Ye only sucks that btc is flying

[spiral copper]

We are in for more blood don’t you worry

[pseudo flint]

irrelevant comparison. This is not a your job. This is a product launch.

[lavish orbit]

The land sale was close to perfect

[outer hull]

This

[quaint storm]

This is the team's job and I'm invested - it's not so different as you think. The team is great at many things - communicating realistic roadmaps is definitively a weakness.

[normal python]

Let me know when you bought and I'll start hyping again 🥳😉

[pseudo flint]

So am i what makes us differnt?

[lavish orbit]

I just bought a t1 with all materials

[rain ibex]

They should definitely take their time but I think a problem they have is their messaging.

I love how many of team speaks to us and do interviews but the message isn't always a unified one

[dense kayak]

Tier 5 is sold out?

[quaint storm]

You ignore obvious problems and weaknesses?

[lavish orbit]

Ye i got 2

[dense kayak]

What?

[rain ibex]

I've been part of games that fail because they kept delaying and the community was getting pissed so they released a broken game and it quickly died.

[remote cedar]

congrats

[fierce vine]

Tier 5 hasn't gone for sale yet

[lavish orbit]

Lets all blame matt for the delay

[dense kayak]

When it will be sell ?

[pseudo flint]

umm no .... i am trusting the team to bring out the game when it ready .

[lavish orbit]

This exactly

[quaint storm]

Me too. I don't trust them to properly communicate when that might be.

[left nest]

but what is 'ready'?

[near pier]

Trivia starting in 10 in #760344898200666116

[lavish orbit]

When the team says its ready

[pale goblet]

What role we need to see Trivia channel?

[rain ibex]

I think the team communicating a unified message is a weakness when I listen to the interviews/discord hear somewhat different info.

[near pier]

You could winnnnn PB1 accessss

[left nest]

but they all say different timelines lol

( i know ill wait)

[azure narwhal]

Come on I am at work 😦

[near pier]

you can type in your answers

go on break lol

[left nest]

just quit your job lol

[languid silo]

Is there a toilet nearby?

[azure narwhal]

I could try and take my break right.

[pseudo flint]

and that is what makes us different you have more of a high matienence view when i am more easy going and chill

[azure narwhal]

Yeah but how long is trivia 🤣

[left nest]

just say you have to poop

[languid silo]

Sushi the night before long

[azure narwhal]

How often is beta access given out do we know

[left nest]

dont ask about timelines👀

[obtuse patrol]

Q2 is over...in a couple weeks

[rain ibex]

I bought land, can I please get into beta!

[quaint storm]

But they didn't say a specific day, so you can't hold them to anything! lol

[pseudo flint]

perhaps the estimate was wrong??

[quaint storm]

Obviously. All their estimates turn out wrong. That's the whole issue lol

[azure narwhal]

Get in line

[dense wharf]

Hi there! Was there supposed to be a surprise announcement at the end of the land sale?

[lavish orbit]

Tomorrow

[pseudo flint]

lol your missing what the definition of estimate is lol if it wrong you just keep re estimate until you are ready to give affirm date.....

[outer hull]

I remember kieran saying 100% q2, is that an estimate?

[raw parrot]

Hey everyone ☺️

[cloud halo]

If you purchase land, do you have to register to get into Illuvium zero beta? or does everyone who purchased land have access to the land beta when it's released?

[dense wharf]

Nice! Beta access for all land owners maybe? :D

[pseudo flint]

is q2 a frim date?

[lavish orbit]

Yes but what year tho?

[old folio]

wow i got trolled witht he notification, thought it was overworld gameplay

[lavish orbit]

Next week

[nocturne jay]

honestly, i know it is annoying to wait - but there is so much negativity from the traditional gaming community directed toward NFT gaming projects that it really is in illuvium's best interest to release test versions of their game which are as polished as possible. Gaming media outlets will look for any possible reason to trash this game if it is not of a very high standard as soon as gameplay is accessible... and even then... so the devs should take their time if they need it

[lusty blaze]

yes, by june 30th

[pseudo flint]

show me where they ever said June 30 exactly?

[lusty blaze]

I didn't see it, I want to see it too

[lavish orbit]

2 dollar ILV stock up boys!!

[outer hull]

Q2 is 31st of december

[pseudo flint]

exactly there is no offical date for open beta.

[quaint storm]

If all of your estimates are missed, then you are terrible at estimates lol This is a bad way to publicly estimate anything. Ever heard the advice to under-promise and over-deliver? This is the opposite... every time.

[wide drum]

hello guys!! is there any date when iluvium zero is gonna be playable?

[pseudo flint]

really that all people should be saying wen open beta unkown there is no offical date for it

[lavish orbit]

Soon

[wide drum]

soon how? lol

[outer hull]

In between 1 and 365 days

[lavish orbit]

Very soon

[fervent idol]

im not sure they gave you the right info. if im not mistaken in one of the q a yt videos they say it 'will probably be' after alfa launches. which is like 3 months away. might be mistaken

[twin venture]

Keep an eye out in the guild recruiting area peeps as the Grugs Lair invite will be up soon 👀

[spring oar]

Just wait for token unlocks

[clear hemlock]

Now that this land sale is over when is the game going to open up

[wide drum]

okey so there is no official date out.. i got it! thank you guys!

[spring oar]

Everything comes after token unlocks

[lavish orbit]

Soon

[pseudo flint]

obviously this is not going anywhere if you are determined to keep a salty FUD filled viewpoint so be it enjoy and have a good day

[sick ore]

i think August is a good chance for playing IZ

[clear hemlock]

Like what is soon

[lavish orbit]

Pretty soon mate

[clear hemlock]

......

[lavish orbit]

Probably not today tho

[quaint storm]

I may be salty, but criticism is not FUD. Good day to you.

[lavish orbit]

We are all salty mate, we get it. There is just not much we can do

[sage falcon]

Dude you must be new to crypto and software…everything ever done is delayed.

[twin venture]

I like to think of it as savoury 😆 🤦‍♂️

[lavish orbit]

He is right mate, his right to be salty when there are multiple delays, better to not give a date. Now lets all chill and buy more land

[sage falcon]

They just completed the smoothest NfT of all times chill

[twin venture]

Smart move. Before the Grugs Lair buys them all

[lavish orbit]

Who is Grugs lair?

[boreal gale]

GM Beautiful Landlords ❤️

[twin venture]

We are a gaming guild

[twin venture]

GM ser

[sage falcon]

Nobody made you buy land or do anything with Illuvium. This is the best team out there. More transparent than anybody. Ever heard of ETH 2.0 things take time to get right. The right to be salty sounds childish

[sage falcon]

I’ll shut up now

[lavish orbit]

Mate im happy, im good dont worry, i love the team

[twin venture]

https://tenor.com/view/why-cant-we-be-friends-freddie-kreuger-darth-vader-dracula-jason-voorhees-gif-5469319

[rich swallow]

Does ilv's revshare model classify it as a security.

[lavish orbit]

I just understand where he is coming from

[pseudo flint]

the reason you tagged me? i know this it also supports my point devs are "Pushing" for a q2 release which is an estimate

[sick ore]

is ist eventually planned that landowners gain beta access? : )

[twin venture]

If that was the case we'd be given over 400 lots of beta access which doesnt sound like the case

[sick ore]

ok thx

[lavish orbit]

We gain beta of the iz land game

[sick ore]

sounds good : )

[young moss]

Dang I can’t join the trivia I’m too busy atm 😭

[normal python]

Nothing in announcements is an estimate.

I tagged you because you seemed unsure on what is supposed to be illuviums current roadmap

[lavish orbit]

We are pushing for, that is an estimate mate

[pseudo flint]

if nothing is a estimate tell me what specific day an time is the offical launch of live open beta?

[spiral copper]

You guys are crazy, i waited 13 years for Kingdom Hearts 3....a month delay is nothing

[waxen python]

why did msft just shit the bed

[twin venture]

a true og

[normal python]

If you say q2 in #📣〕announcements then it's q2.

Bear in mind this is one example of many where q2 was mentioned. Took me 2 secs to find it

[boreal gale]

Try waiting for Grand Tourismo updates kek

[sage falcon]

Literally my only concern for Illuvium. Nobody knows yet. They are spreading a bunch of securities fud rn like they do every time fear is high. Remains to be seen what they will do probably a couple years away at least I would imagine. No idea I am just an idiot watching other idiots.

[twin venture]

try waiting for diablo microtransactions

[quaint storm]

Gonna end up more like a year than a month, since initially it was gonna be out Q1.

[spiral copper]

no because the token COULD go down returns are NOT garenteed

[twin venture]

welcome to the world of investing ser

[quaint storm]

Returns are never guaranteed. Guess there is no such thing as a security lol

[normal python]

UTC or AEST?

[twin venture]

AEST 👀

[spiral copper]

well the difference is a security is "safe" if you loose your funds. Like insured and all of that

[quiet glen]

Yes, Immutascan, and there's even a link to the Illuvium collection on the home. That's how I've been following the trades.

[sage falcon]

Whats up nerds

[twin venture]

greetings fellow australian

[wheat light]

GMT or nothing 🇬🇧

[twin venture]

GLT or nothing*

[wheat light]

Bro we invented timezones. GMT 0 ftw

[boreal gale]

You stole it from the French lol.

[quaint storm]

What? Guess no one has ever lost money in the stock market. When my company goes bankrupt, I'll just file an insurance claim. lmao

[twin venture]

GLT = Grugs Lair time 😆 still waiting for it to be accepted as a normal time zone however, but the push is on

[royal gyro]

They were talking about ranger rank in the event chat - which level is that?

[spiral copper]

you can report capital losses in crytpo too for taxes

[wheat light]

5 I think dude

[royal gyro]

Got it. Thanks dude

[pseudo flint]

https://tenor.com/view/really-you-need-to-relax-chill-gif-18408494

goes for alot of people who stress about estimates not being met and get triggered by it

[twin venture]

need to chill with some of that good choccy milk frens

[hard stratus]

@near pier sent you friend request

[sage falcon]

It’s gonna be a shit show. Powers that be gonna talk tough and try to scare everyone. Some smart ppl think it’s gonna be a problem others I’ve heard think WAGMI who the fak knows. Klaus schuabs right hand man says the plan is to pacify everyone with drugs and video games, so that bodes well for us.

[twin venture]

enjoy not having to face the Grugs Lair in the arena while you still can haha

[quaint storm]

Yes? And? Are you implying similarities between crypto / stocks (securities)? Because that sounds like the opposite point from what you were trying to make initially.

[wheat light]

Nah we aint stressed. Stress shortens your life. So does lack of sleep. So GN ILV fam

[sage falcon]

Doesnt sound that bad. I like drugs and video games 🤷

[spiral copper]

no? i was just saying if you loose money in crypto you have SOME protections also

[boreal gale]

My son was telling me how beautiful max graphics were on Valorant last night, this is who we are up against and Grant knows it.

[pseudo flint]

if you cant send Rich a dm the problem probably on your side see this if your dm is getting rejected its you not him

here is a possible dm fail fix #💬〕general message

[sage falcon]

What else is there

[quiet glen]

Except for that CoinGecko tweet I haven't see much news about the land sale.

[hard stratus]

all working fine now

[twin venture]

@near pier is the son-in-law every father needs

[hard stratus]

he is the GOAT

[wheat light]

What kinda news u after friend? The landsale has finished apart from the x2 tier 5 land plots. U wanted stats?

[near pier]

200 IQ

[boreal gale]

Thoughts on Ready Player One?

[royal gyro]

Anyone know if there was ever a choice to go with Unreal engine 5?

[twin venture]

haha legenddd

[boreal gale]

Are you giving out application forms to adopt Rich?

[quaint storm]

I mean... that doesn't get you your investment back, just reduces your tax obligation. It still seems like a weird tangent considering your initial post seem to imply that crypto can't be a security because securities are "insured," which they aren't. Brokerages are.

[wheat light]

Yeh Grant talked about the pros and cons on a live stream before

[twin venture]

i'd like to haha

[royal gyro]

Should be a bit hard to develop in UE5 since it's in beta pretty much? But I read somewhere that it should be easy to transition into the future from UE4->5

[twin venture]

i've said it before and i'll say it again

@near pier I produce estrogen just from looking at your pfp ser

😆 🤦‍♂️

[sage falcon]

Insane but never seen the whole thing. That’s OBVIOUSLY where this is all headed tho. Eating crickets and synthetic gruel via a feeding tube but plugged in to the Illuvium world so all good.

[quiet glen]

I'm aware of everything that's happened and I'm a happy land owner; I meant news to attract the attention of others.

[wheat light]

Interesting

[glossy crescent]

he's just that much alpha. Sexiest man alive.

[young moss]

I loved that movie

[boreal gale]

I've seen it about 5 times, I hope this is exactly where we are heading.

[dusty plank]

"Sustainably sourced protein and nutrionally enhanced gourmet paste product."

[young moss]

Oh that would be dope except for the world falling apart outside of the game lmfao

[nocturne jay]

is there an IZ trailer?

[boreal gale]

My stomach is hurting, I can't laff anymore.

[royal gyro]

Agreed. A bit too childish setting for me but the futuristic concept is cool. I'd prefer a direct link to my brain into the game, instead of running on a treadmill though lol

Looked a bit silly hah

[sage falcon]

The matrix was a documentary

[young moss]

I’m for cyborgs lol I wanna be a robot

[wheat light]

Yes mate a couple of articles have been written by crypto news sites 'The Block' for one and another couple Ive seen

[twin venture]

Hey what do you call an italian with a rubber toe?

Roberto

https://tenor.com/view/office-laugh-giggle-gif-5268104

[royal gyro]

Immortal cyborg ftw. Dying is so inefficient. Spend like 40 years to master something only to spend 20 years contributing then dying lol

[young moss]

U saying that makes me wanna be a cyborg even more lol

[royal gyro]

Lets go hah

[quiet glen]

Thank you, I hadn't checked The Block.

[boreal gale]

Proper gamer fuel:

[umbral cloak]

is this quiz over?

[dusty plank]

TBH not far off actual gamer food lol

Can't even taste the sawdust in my hot pockets

[balmy dagger]

from where we can buy land or see prices?

[quaint storm]

"Made FOR gamers, OUT OF gamers"

[sage falcon]

Ahahha solid

[boreal gale]

You pay extra for premium, they mash up ranked players.

[dusty plank]

Hey Saber, been a while! Did you end up getting any land?

[quaint storm]

Been a while indeed. No land for me - but it was fun to be around and watch the hype

[dusty plank]

Yeh it was haha - I'm stoked to watch the T5 auctions too

Still praying a tophat makes an appearance

[dusty plank]

You can use the Illuvidex to buy land from other players

[glossy crescent]

and immutable x (imx) website

[sage falcon]

Apparently Labeouf is a mega ETH whale…bidding war against the Winkelvii

[boreal gale]

https://tenor.com/view/moe-bought-dump-it-gif-21793771

[boreal gale]

100k ETH got dumped yesterday apparently, the market followed, I'll take the convo to #💰〕token

[hard stratus]

we need a way to make offers in lands on the map

[dusty plank]

Yes, the team is aware that this is a desired feature. I completely agree, it would be great to be able to put offers in on plots you want.

[hard stratus]

this team always make happy to be part of illuvium , just magnificent

[fervent idol]

how is it salty for him to state a fact: they always reschedule. ()

[fervent idol]

btw im not even mad about it, thats the industry standard

[pseudo flint]

i agree if anyone gets triggered about a estimate/ multiple estimates not being met they are easily triggered and its on them not the team. people just need to chill and realize an estimate is an estimate

[fervent idol]

tnx

[vernal heart]

More I hear about this land sale, less I want to try this game. Just seems like a blatant cash grab.

[sick ore]

The game is looking too good, thats why many are so impatient

[final plume]

Is the 10% conversion Loss confirmed? I thought it would be higher, like 30%. Now the LandMark conversion loss reduction looks like a total joke

[wicked stag]

i read that as a butt feeding tube

[sage falcon]

That’s stage 2

[fervent idol]

there are two things at play here 1) illuvium team has underdelivered compared to official roadmap(missing the timeline), but hugely overdelivered compared to 98% of altcoin projects(actual quality project is there). 2) individuals need to balance their expectations. if team promises a certain date, but the entire gaming industry(including real aaa makers) always misses projections by a year, then you kinda need to take that into consideration as well. i would personally love for the project to be great when it launches even if it gets delayed like 3 more times

[sage falcon]

Exactly the opposite sir

[fervent idol]

confirmed in yt vid

[wicked stag]

you realize all the proceeds from the land sale went to ilv stakers, right? the team got nothing

[final plume]

Well, it looks kinda ridiculous 😅

[fervent idol]

im not making the rules just conveying the info

[fervent idol]

i dont understand the second question from that pic? what do you mean how many days did the sale last? isnt it a common knowledge it lasted 3 days? just asking

[final plume]

Yeah it was a question for the trivia contest I believe, and the question is indeed waay too easy. I guess it was a question of how long it takes you to read

[terse oak]

I think it was mentioned to be a 5 to 10% loss

[fierce echo]

How do I start playing this game

[dusty plank]

3

[fervent idol]

yeah, so easy i thought there is something afoot

[dusty plank]

xD

[final plume]

Was not my question tho

[fervent idol]

i just relistened a vid* there they said 10%

[rain elbow]

why are they on their backs?

[final plume]

If it's real, it looks quite ridiculous to me

[terse oak]

I think it’s a good rate makes owning land more fair all across

[dusty plank]

It's 10% per the YT video being referenced. I'ma wait for some GDD's or official documentation to be sure though.

My understanding was that converters could be upgraded to increase efficiency, so maybe they start out lower and work up to 10% loss?

[fervent idol]

rotated camera?

[final plume]

that would make sense

[vernal heart]

You can’t. Only thing you can do now is listen to whales talk about land sales.

[fervent idol]

makes sense

[dusty plank]

I could be out to lunch though, I'm not super current on the team interviews RE: IL:Z, and I prefer to take information from text > video.

[covert violet]

fair enough

[final plume]

I'm the same. I'm so annoyed when I google info and I only find youtubers. They don't get to the point and often make wrong assumption. I love when I find a wiki with straight info

[covert violet]

i wonder if it would make more sense to barter and trade in the market rather than convert your own fuel

[winter grove]

Wait people have beta access????

[winter grove]

How did you get beta access?

[terse oak]

The price fluctuation will be limited to a range of + or - 25%, so converting will be necessary if you want to optimize

[dusty plank]

Yeah, I prefer to make the wrong assumption for myself haha - I think it's kinda like that game telephone, where people pass on a word or information, and after it's gone through X people it's completely inaccurate.

There are exceptions for sure, but anything with assumptions or inferences doesn't do much for me.

[covert violet]

converting comes at a 10% loss, also you need to use resource and time

[final plume]

Sadly i've watch waay too many of our youtubers mess up the information I've seen Aaron or Grant Or Kieran say

[dusty plank]

TL;DR information from a primary source is bis, and text is easy to review and be concise, whereas it's easy to get 1 small thing wrong in an interview, and difficult to amend later.

[terse oak]

Yeah, but if you are converting a resource that is currently at -25% price, into one that is at +25% you will make a profit, specially if you have good logistics

[rain elbow]

yes

[dusty plank]

The last few rounds of beta access have gone out to the Ranger rank in Discord, and only to people who registered for the beta via the Illuvium website. If you're interested in beta access, you should definitely register there.

#🔗〕helpful-links

[final plume]

oh damn that's a profit source I hadnt though of. Ressource f-ing arbitrage

[rain elbow]

I waited two months)

[terse oak]

Yeah the arbitrage strategy and how we store/release resources will all come into the optimization methods

[old folio]

report it in game

[bold field]

Hey! Does anyone have a good link to describe the land element and fuel site differences?

[terse oak]

https://infoluvial.io/iz-resources/

[fierce echo]

Okay

[bold field]

Awesome, thank you!

[indigo summit]

what do i need to look out for if i buy a tier 1 land? is there any pros and cons? region? any recources that are more valuable?

[terse oak]

Right now we don't have a lot of info, so the more diverse the better I guess

[errant leaf]

hey could anybody help me understand the utility of each resource lands produce? I am fairly new to illuvium and looking to buy a land so I'm trying to figure out the value of each land based on it

[indigo summit]

ok thanks for the info

[terse oak]

https://infoluvial.io/iz-resources/

[young moss]

Oh that’s even better than I originally thought

[dusty plank]

An evenly balanced plot is super convenient, but may not actually end up being the best in the long run. I don't think anyone will be able to make objective assessments of what's the most valuable until the game is live.

[dusty plank]

It was just a response to the image he posted. (Which asked: How long did the land sale last in days?)

[indigo summit]

i see. so right now its pretty much luck until we know 😛

[young moss]

Lol mb I was reading the % for gas exchange

[terse oak]

Yeah I didn't spend too much time considering it, I just let the minting gods decide my land properties

[dusty plank]

Yeah, I was just being cheeky by responding to the question in the image haha

[indigo summit]

when i try to buy land it still wants to connect me to my wallet and IMX, even when i sign at the end

[dusty plank]

Like the connection doesn't complete after you sign?

[indigo summit]

ye

[dusty plank]

Hardware wallet or anything like that going on?

[indigo summit]

no

i added balance from my MetaMask to my IMX and it doesnt let me buy

nevermind

it worked after 10 tries

[winter imp]

Fuel

[sick ore]

#💥〕leaks-discussion message

There is a list with the utility of all materials

[winter grove]

I swear I did it like months ago

[fervent idol]

excuse me, are you buying land on secondary rn? this might very well be stupidity on my part but im baffled as to why would anyone do it rn? we had plenty time during the 3day land sale and floor was very well established + was cheaper...care to explain why are you doing it now?

[quick spindle]

Not speaking for ZeDe here… but in general, even though there was 3 days to purchase during the sale, there are plenty of people who didn’t get the chance to buy during the sale, simply forgot, or who may be wanting to purchase more even after buying during the sale

[vestal hawk]

I bought 4 during land sale but I bought 3 more from secondary market and I am planning on buying more because more I read about the progress more I am bullish on it. why is it stupid to own more land? lol other people have to work or other things to do, not everyone can glue to the computer during those 3 days of land sale and try to buy all that they want

[wet kelp]

theres also no announcement for the next land sale. so these 20k plots might be the only land for 12 months

[fervent idol]

i understand everything you just said and i concur in general, but what seems a bit off is not having a bit of time during three days to buy at 'x' price and then literally in hours to follow buy at 140%(x). again, many are obviously doing this, so i take it for granted im the one in the wrong. just curious for their answer that is all.

[haughty cave]

Plus some are trying to form megacities

[fervent idol]

please dont insinuate i called anyone but myself stupid and then lol about it

[vestal hawk]

I know some people fomo at the beginning of the land sale and paid 1 to 1.5 eth for T1 land, now they can buy in secondary for .46

[haughty cave]

Hope there will be more people after game release who buys land :))

[indigo summit]

almost baught at launch aswell, glad i waited 😛

[fervent idol]

that is possible. im just curious about their reasons, that's all. im not critiquing

[earnest mirage]

good morning

[wet kelp]

i didnt buy during the land sale. i think by the time the second sale comes around. alot of land will be going for around what it starts at

[fiery briar]

PB1 really is as good as advertised, blown away with how clean it is for an initial rollout

[indigo summit]

i think so aswell

[wet kelp]

pb1?

[fiery briar]

private beta

[fervent idol]

any chance you could answer my previous question? just asking in case you missed it

[indigo summit]

i just baught, didnt think about the price that much tbh

[fervent idol]

quite possible. but there are quite a few questions there: 1) will the product be good(I expect it to be) 2)what will the starting price be at the 2nd sale and 3) what will be the state of the crypto market... why didnt u buy during land sale(just curious)?

[wet kelp]

1. im relatively new here and am very bullish on the game for many reasons. illuvium partnering with iummutable who partnered with gamestop is huge imo. also the fact theyre creating an ecosystem. not just one game. 2. id imagine the starting price will be the same. and 3. i didnt buy because i thought the next sale was going to be withing a few weeks/months and plus i was traveling all weekend

[fiery briar]

Yeah I know the 100k plots scared a lot of people away

[wet kelp]

but what if there are 1m players needing 100k plots

[fiery briar]

yeah there was a message from Kieran during the sale that made me feel way better about it, essentially that they only are going to add more plots if demand calls for it

[fervent idol]

tnx for your answers

[alpine trout]

prices might be the same, but it might also be that the price of land is up alot. Gotta consider they are gonna do another landsale when the demand for fuel is realy high. Wich means a piece of land is gonna be expensive. And they cant go lower then the floorprice at that moment cause that would create a gasbonanza

[wet kelp]

yeah which made me think these prices are low

[mellow furnace]

we were lucky to get into this past landsale during a bear market. what happens in the next landsale, if we are in a bull market

[fiery briar]

I couldn't believe how low the auctions went, had 9 ETH and thought I would get 4 t2s max with it and ended up with 10

[dusty plank]

Down the road, after Illuvium and IL:Z are live, and 100k plots have been distributed, if there is a need for more land, there are options.

The thing is, you don't NEED land to play Illuvium, which IMO is the main course. You only need paid land to play AND earn from IL:Z. I don't see the limited number of plots of land being a hinderance to adoption. Rather, they are supplemental.

[wet kelp]

why didnt you go for a t3 at all? just curious as to why you prioritized all the t2s

[alpine trout]

why the hell didnt you buy a t3 xd

[wet kelp]

well if im entering a game like this. i would want to be self sufficient. like many players would. so i know its not for everyone but alot of people would want to buy land to help fuel their gaming

[fiery briar]

own personal strategy

[dusty plank]

T2's are pretty lit 🙂

[indigo summit]

two tier2 might be a better thing than 1 tier3

[mellow furnace]

I don't think so

[wet kelp]

all good i was genuinely curious. i like hearing about other peoples strats

[mellow furnace]

T3 has element boost and will give others in the megacity the same boost. what does T2 do?

[wet kelp]

agreed 100%

[dusty plank]

He might not be after a megacity. There's LOADS of strategies for land buying.

[fiery briar]

if you run the numbers with the production boosts 3 tier 2s give you way more compared to tier 3 for elements and equal production for fuel. So the 10% landmark boost wasn't enough to sway me

[quick spindle]

Dang. Nice! Congrats

[sick ore]

thats a good point

[fiery briar]

I found out afterwards about the 30 minute requirement for each land though lol

[wet kelp]

understandable. i was thinking for getting 2-3 t1s but i think a single t2 is better

[fiery briar]

yeah t2 was the sweet spot for me

[alpine trout]

rent some out : D

[wet kelp]

whats this requirement? as i stated before. im relatively new here

[fiery briar]

just time for managing each land but it gets better as you build it up

[quick spindle]

I wouldn’t say it’s a “requirement” but rather an estimate. Kieran has mentioned that it could be expected to play 30 mins per day on each plot to get the most out of it

[fiery briar]

I actually ended up with 2 tier 2s right next to each other and there are 2 tier 3s right above them so after all this I might try and swap the rest of my tier 2s to get those tier 3s lol

[sick ore]

i like the house level system : )

[wet kelp]

ahhh ok i thought i heard that. if i ever have too much land im planning on just renting the ones i cant manage out

[mellow furnace]

I'm hoping that megacities will let you run the lands as one

[fiery briar]

I think they will

[mellow furnace]

that would be a helluva time saver

[near pier]

when are we starting the degen T5 land fund

[wet kelp]

whatre we estimating t5s are gonna go for

[mellow furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/one-milliondollars-dr-evil-mike-myers-gif-4123675

[near pier]

with all degen power combined we could get a T5

https://tenor.com/view/umm-confused-blinking-okay-white-guy-blinking-gif-7513882

[alpine trout]

You wanted fud not me

OMFG is saw fud hahahah you siad fund

[near pier]

lol

I never FUD

[alpine trout]

Mod pls delete my message xd

[near pier]

literally against my morals

[dusty plank]

https://tenor.com/view/wink-flirty-james-franco-gif-9644828

[near pier]

now it looks like I'm crazy talking to myself @alpine trout

[zenith fable]

hey guys is rich ok? why is he talking to himself

[alpine trout]

well i mean would they be wrong 😄 haha

[gilded prairie]

I think I lucked out, picked up 3 T1's and they have all three different fuels and all three element sources too

[alpine trout]

and how the hell did you tag me so fast wizard ?

[gilded prairie]

I figure it's an advantage to have access to all the different elements and fuels, even in small quantities as they are T1 lands

[mellow furnace]

I feel sad for people who bought T4s and have no matching fuel sites for their landmark

[indigo summit]

i got 1 T1 and i think i have some good elements

[near pier]

I'm good bruh @alpine trout

Could ban you even quicker

wanna see

[alpine trout]

wait did they really make it like that ??

[indigo summit]

😮

[south moon]

Mega city 2x2 for sale 1xT2, 3xT1 Taiga Boreal . DM me with the offer. I didn't put them up for sale on IMX because I don't know how much they are worth to someone. I will only consider reasonable offers. You still have the chance to become the owner of a 2x2 mega city.

[near pier]

[sick ore]

got on my t1 land all elements 1x and 1x crypton. Im happy with that : )

[alpine trout]

You now fraggy is gonna kill you then right 😄

[near pier]

I'm scared

[final plume]

we can rightt clic your name to tag you ye now?

[near pier]

Punishment coming

[final plume]

@alpine trout this way

[near pier]

shift click

[gilded prairie]

Guys is anyone else fearful about mass selling during the big unlock EOM?

[sick ore]

No

[final plume]

People will just buy back after. I plan on doing so

[alpine trout]

i mean that would be a great opportunity for the little guy imo 😄

[livid marten]

There is no fear, only acceptance and stables at the ready

[indigo summit]

im aiming for long term holding. so no fear

[quick spindle]

Hey there— we’ve got a #🛒〕land-dex channel for listings like this! Definitely post over there if you have Illuvium NFTs you’re looking to sell 👍

[final plume]

i happen to be a lil guy

[gilded prairie]

I'm so sleepy guys. Gonna turn in.

[south moon]

Thank You

[alpine trout]

same here fren

[storm abyss]

I hope it happens cause I'll def buy

[sick ore]

me too if so

[final plume]

As you can read: basically we just believe in the project whatever the token price.

[haughty osprey]

if i was looking for return on investment in the next 6 months i would stress that. i aint trying to sell my land til i can buy some IRL land with it though. thats not gonna be at least til well* after release

[final plume]

Goals

[haughty osprey]

that would be the ultimate flex. chillin on real land you bought with metaverse land

[ripe hemlock]

Damn im happy that I could get 6 lands tier 2

[final plume]

I'd print an image of the nft and put it right in the entrance of the property lmao

[haughty osprey]

ideeeeaas

[indigo summit]

i gonna hustle myself up to tier 2 with my t1 land

[dusty smelt]

Is it possible to send the land to a different wallet? If so could someone give me a brief explanation how

[haughty osprey]

its interesting how the tier one land floor stayed around the same as the live sale but the t2 land floor jumped way (well, moderately) up

[quick spindle]

I’ve heard TokenTrove (another marketplace built on IMX) has the option to transfer NFTs. But sadly I don’t have a step by step process on that… haven’t done it myself either

[spring oar]

So is it likely land revdis is going to be after t5 sold?

[whole pelican]

What is the floor on a T2 atm?

[dusty smelt]

Thank you

[haughty osprey]

it was like 2400 last i saw

[indigo summit]

1.5 i think?

[haughty osprey]

or 1.38 ish

[spring oar]

Yes I am

[whole pelican]

Dam they did go up fairly quick. Picked mine up at 1.188 was quite happy with that buy.

[spring oar]

Seems like everything is conviently delayed till after

[whole pelican]

I could see the token unlocks just going back into staking potentially some profits to be made back but imo I believe most will go back into the network

[spring oar]

Lol token unlocks to go VCs pockets

Go to

[whole pelican]

Hmmm but do you see the VCs selling off or re-staking for greater profits in the future.

[ruby arch]

We need a new definition for soon

[haughty osprey]

anyone who would mass sell their unlocks 6 months before release must have some pressing issues requiring liquidity because you waited this long, youve seen 1800 ath, might as well see what full release can do for you. that would be very shortsighted.

[spring oar]

Not sure. I haven't seen yet.so far token unlocks have just destroyed prices

[half valve]

Can you only have 1 illuvial set?

[spring oar]

They made more money investing in newer projects .spray and pray all over crypto world

[wet kelp]

how much is being unlocked

[whole pelican]

I don't really see anyone selling anything in a bear market. VCs normally have enough liquidity that they don't need to pull out of long term projects to invest into other projects.

[spring oar]

Why would it be shortsighted for people who just finished vesting for a year or two

[fiery briar]

normally people that are early believers and the team has delivered so far tend to keep investing in them

[hexed haven]

They'd be cashing out before Illuvium releases it's first game. Most of these funds have 5-10 year time horizons for their investments. If Illuvium's full vision is realized, they'll be much bigger then.

[sage falcon]

how many token projects buy back their own token and to pay revdis

its like comparing apples and rocks

[daring oriole]

!rank

[sage falcon]

use #bot-commands please

[winter grove]

Sometimes I dream about owning tier 5 land

[red skiff]

you dream big

[sage falcon]

Invest into LUNA and you'll be able to make that dream come true

[indigo summit]

hahah

[sage falcon]

😏

[haughty osprey]

because the upside is crazy. think of the ceiling

[winter grove]

Then I wake up to my t1 just sitting there like 😑

[sage falcon]

i will trade u 100k LUNA for it

[red skiff]

be proud of your t1! You're a landlord regardless its size

[sage falcon]

It's a win/win for both of us

[winter grove]

Not the size of the boat but the motion of the ocean?

[jovial tundra]

Anyone online that can assist me with a land purchase?

[sage falcon]

Dont respond to any DMs they will all be scams.

[winter grove]

I honestly would but I’m not home

[sage falcon]

depends on what u need @jovial tundra

[jovial tundra]

I deposited to the IM balance does this take awhile?

[indigo summit]

takes a few minutes

[jovial tundra]

I deposited USDC and I have eth for gas. It's still saying i have insufficient funds

[vague jungle]

yeah should take a while

[lusty elk]

Hey guys, which are considered the top Illuvium guilds?

[winter grove]

There’s guilds?

[sage falcon]

ACG!

[sage falcon]

The biggest 3 are Polemos, ACG, and Shiny Shards.

[jovial tundra]

Looks like it updated

Awesome!

[lusty elk]

okay thanks, will check them out

[winter grove]

What in the Pokémon is going on? Since when is there guilds?

[uneven lynx]

What's the price of tr1?

[vague jungle]

👌

[jovial tundra]

Officially a land owner!!!!!

[sage falcon]

#899655780033261639

[winter grove]

Ayoooo 🔥

[jovial tundra]

@lapis ridge We did it bro1

[winter grove]

Thanks 🙏

[lapis ridge]

Lfg!!!!!

[red skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-jordan-belfort-leonardo-di-caprio-one-of-us-jonah-hill-gif-5441859

[molten granite]

What tier and how much did you pay?

[winter grove]

Do you feel any different? Rumour has it that land owners have 15% deeper pockets than the average degen

[jovial tundra]

Hey been excited to do this all night/day!

[lusty elk]

is Shiny Shards the official guild? I see same of the same mods there as here, so I assume yes

[lapis ridge]

@jovial tundra and I are just trying to earn our stripes in this world of degeneracy

Need some land to live on in order to do so 😈

[winter grove]

Is there any reason to join a guild or is it to just have ur own lil community and interact with others?

[lusty elk]

Guilds generally work together to share game knowledge and how to make $ from it, and oftentimes play together

[winter grove]

You in shiny?

[jovial tundra]

Can't believe a game on chain that will be HD and VR!

[covert violet]

they can also barter resources

[molten granite]

So basically exactly what this discord is meant to do but a wider audience?

[jovial tundra]

I may have another question if anyone is willing.

[jovial tundra]

Can I do anything with land currenly or am I just a holder

[molten granite]

Hold for now until Illuvium zero test launches

[lusty elk]

Not yet, I did join their Discord but still just exploring

[lusty elk]

With a narrower audience

[jovial tundra]

Awesome thanks for your time!

[unborn scroll]

Are lakes the best resource?

[indigo summit]

i think no one rly knows whats the best resorce. have to wait

[winter grove]

I was just about to say the same thing

[unborn scroll]

Let’s hope I got 2 lakes

🤞🏼

join me on my land and we will wakeskate for illuvials

[sage falcon]

Theres no official guild.

[unborn scroll]

Gotta say Imx worked flawlessly L2 is gonna be big imo

Has anyone used IMX marketplace? If so how was it, is the experience as good there

[pseudo flint]

i would point out some staker are in a** better position** to be more self sufficient that than "land owner" hence why i prefer putting money into staking instead of land

[dreamy rapids]

they killed it. I have used 2-3months ago and it was smooth af

Also ive heard that the Illuvidex is slightly cheaper (it could have been lower fees? can't remember) - so i would recommend looking on both

[lyric shoal]

But if you are buying stuff on the illuvidex isnt imx running in the background then? So youre basically also using it?

[dreamy rapids]

yep

theyre just 2 different interfaces, i think

[azure narwhal]

I was originally going to sell my T1 plot but I’m too excited for the future I need to hold all my lands

[umbral cloak]

Whats the t1* price

[lyric shoal]

Cause then i have also used it recently to buy two lands 😁 and it worked perfectly 👍

[azure narwhal]

It’s been going up pretty steadily from what I’ve seen when I woke up this morning it was .43 and then at 1:50PST it was .48

[vague jungle]

i feel you bro

excited for what is to come. we are too early for this

[haughty osprey]

guild is either for ppl who want friends or people who want to pool money to have a stake in higher tier investments they cant afford personally

[azure narwhal]

.449 fp on IMX rn

T2 fp 1.3 eth rn lezgoo

[rose patrol]

That’s awesome

[azure narwhal]

Indeed. Especially in the bear market to see rising floors is quite awesome

[rose patrol]

I’m calling 1 ETH for T1 by full game release!!

[rose patrol]

Yeah… just shows the interest in the project I think

[azure narwhal]

I have a similar price speculation

[thorn rivet]

Is the floor of the land NFT's really at 0.4 when the original price was 1 Eth?

[rose patrol]

I think once the full game is out and people know the expectations for fuel production and income, prices will be close to fuel plus blueprint benefit 1-2yr ROI…

But that’s not to say hype won’t drive prices until then

Wen Video!!!!!? 🙂

[plush bear]

floor price during auction came down to 0.35 range

[patent kayak]

Was a Dutch auction. Price started at 2 eth and decreased over time.

[odd stone]

Guys what are the secondary markets for Land? All of them

[undone jacinth]

Gn!

[dreamy rapids]

guilds (especially the large ones that have a relationship with Illuvium) will probably be the best place to organise account loaning/renting etc. They will also probably bee invaluable for things likepooling/retailing NFTs from blueprints etc

[dreamy rapids]

Im only using the Illuvidex and IMXs marketplace

[odd stone]

Is there a way to view those simultaneously? And tokentrove listings

[dreamy rapids]

dunno try it out

[umbral cloak]

cool, i can never find it how did you?

[full bone]

gm

[tacit urchin]

Taiga Boreal is gonna become so desirable as time goes on
https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/asset/0x9e0d99b864e1ac12565125c5a82b59adea5a09cd/12109

[quiet helm]

Hey all!

[mental radish]

wattup bro

guys where can i see the after market for the lands ?

[lusty elk]

How liquid is the secondary market, is there much volume at all?

[peak drift]

what is the website to buy 2nd market for land is it opensea and immutable x ?

[minor mica]

Wut do y’all think is better four T2 or one T3 ?

[wispy kindle]

Depends on what you are aiming for

[lusty elk]

Immutable

[lusty elk]

T3 100%, you have to think about the amount of time it will take to manage 4 lands vs 1...

[sacred flame]

How do I find out the historical price of SILV on Nov 24 2021?

[minor mica]

Yeah my wife wanted to know why I paid for one T3 over getting four T2 🤣🤣🤣

[lusty elk]

Tell her so that you could save time, and spend more of it with her lol

[minor mica]

I told her it’s a man thing and she hit me 😂

[pearl meadow]

😂

[minor mica]

And that imma try for a maga city 🤞🏾

[minor mica]

Yeah and that 100% boost is a game changer

[tender kernel]

Definitely need T3/T4 for a megacity imo. Megacity without a boost is really not that great

[sage falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/trump-kag-president-maga-gif-12985919

rip can't post gifs

[tidal bronze]

Sharing structures is pretty huge

[ruby vale]

Are players going to make a fortune staking ILV and playing ILLuvium?

[spring oar]

U really must be high

[minor mica]

Wasn’t able to get a T4 lost that money playing around with sundeaswup

[minor mica]

Fuck yes 🤣👀

[spring oar]

Over the last year I wonder how many percent of stakers are in crypto world are acctually profiting

[minor mica]

If you put that work in!

[tender kernel]

T3 is still great if you're building megacity 👍🏼

[minor mica]

2024💸💸😂

[near vigil]

nice leaks. I would like to highlight the focus is alot on graphics but do make sure to make sounds good too! In such atmospheric games I find music and sounds is like the final dust of salt on a nice dish

[hard stratus]

?

[spring oar]

I made that. Up honestly.

[peak drift]

So im new Im very confused how to buy land for sale in the illuvia I go to buy now and it is not user friendly .. some one tell me how to buy at the floor price ?

[minor mica]

https://tenor.com/view/me-me-me-me-me-eric-cartman-stan-marsh-wendy-testaburger-south-park-gif-21520593

[hard stratus]

you can go to immutable x market place and go with lowest price

[peak drift]

the illuvia dex is confusing

[minor mica]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-just-wrong-dude-kyle-broflovski-kenny-mccormick-stan-marsh-south-park-gif-22317594

[young bone]

hey guys, I'm trying find out what i can and cant put on my twitter profile pic from ? does it matter? can i use the logo or anything from character leaks?

[hard stratus]

they are goign to make it more user friendly for sure, but in the meantime use immutable x

[old folio]

Go to trade

[peak drift]

k

[sage falcon]

should rethink burning illuvials for a blueprint, maybe embue? or something, sounds evil burning

[young moss]

How was trivia? Was it hard questions?

[silver yoke]

a

[sweet shadow]

Hows everyone doing?

[dense venture]

what are the potential utility of Illuvitars? any speculations?

[winter grove]

Lookin cool 😎

[minor ledge]

am i the only one that doesnt know what illuvitars are?

[past flume]

If they did better marketing and the market decided to go green, (sure) burning of sILV and 50c revdis is better than nothing.

[gilded path]

taking the most basic frame and equipping it with all the rarest accessories to be a true troll

[past flume]

If ILV did illuvitars first and it was 4-8 months ago, MANNNN. Money would of been raining

You’d make 100-250m in that market

[pearl meadow]

Pretty sure they’re the creature things in the game

[past flume]

They are Based off illuvials

[gilded path]

they are pfp

[old folio]

The creatures are illuvials, illuvitars are based off illuvials and are pfps

[patent kayak]

In-Game Avatars and Profile Pictures basically

[gilded path]

samples of illuvitars, dont miss out on the dessert

more samples to stimulate the drooling 🤣

[dense venture]

not gonna lie, some of them look like Neopets

[wicked folio]

What's the next rank after ranger?

[quiet glen]

Anybody here going to NFT NYC?

[gilded path]

none....at the moment, im personally hoping for branches like zoo keeper

[sweet shadow]

im drooling

[gilded path]

careful now, we might flood the world 🤣

[wicked folio]

That's what I thought. Thanks for the clarification.

[quiet glen]

Yep, I got two lots during the sale but then I aped and got another on the secondary market. I may buy more eventually.

[minor ledge]

those would be illuvials

[dreamy path]

what is a decent (minimum) amount of ILV to buy and start stacking

[minor ledge]

anything man, there are only 10 million max thats nothing

[pearl meadow]

I meant like the nft version of them i guess ?

[minor ledge]

hm maybe. someone mentioned that its your avatar/profile pic in the game

[dreamy path]

with all the cost is there not a minimum to be decent?

[quiet glen]

Also let's consider that many people may hold more than one plot of land.

[minor ledge]

there is no minimum or maximum, whatever works for you man. i dont have much but i throw a bit by bit in every cheque. I will say though it is on a fire sale right now in my opinion

[quiet glen]

Unlocking of staked ILV? I don't hold any but would like to get some at a discount and stake now that I own land.

[marsh geyser]

have they picked the land giveaway winners yet?

[minor ledge]

We should get a "verified land owner" chat/role

[boreal gale]

Not a bad idea actually.

[sage falcon]

someone start a gofundme

[lusty elk]

and a channel... it's a bit frustrating we don't have a place to chat w/verified owners

[boreal gale]

We wont need one.

[quiet glen]

Welcome aboard!

[dreamy path]

how do you get ILV/ETH?, is that SLP (smooth love potion?)

[azure narwhal]

All the news on the land sale selling out is so fire

[sage falcon]

oh?

[zinc kindle]

For anyone interested, here's my vid on how our CoOp got a 3x3 Megacity and 13 plots total in the ILV sale

https://youtu.be/Sgi8cnLUeVg

[quiet glen]

Check out Immutascan. There has been decent activity since the land sale.

[minor ledge]

So you made a project where people invest into a megacity??? That is brilliant wowwwwww.

[zinc kindle]

Hmm close, I created a project where we create "Syndicates"/ tokenised funds to purchase blue chip NFT projects. Wasn't just ILV, we done CloneX and Satoshi Island also.

[minor ledge]

kinda like a hedge?

[zinc kindle]

Essentially lowers the barriers to participate reduces Risk and increases R&G alot of thr time