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dont want to gv them unfair advantage
Closed beta = limited access / no earning / everything wiped
Open beta launch = open to everyone with earning
Is this good enough?
I don't think so..I had similar one now I bought 3060
so hype
Did they say that public?
this won't work out
is scholarship is available?
seem like I might need to buy a new one
what pc case do you have is there some space to add a grapics card yourself most of the 3060 only need one 8pin pcie to connect to the energy supply
I heard once someone mentioned that Aaron said everything will be wiped out as the story starts when the ship crashes on the planet so how can you have land before the crash?
mine is a laptop so I am not sure
this is not workable you need to go for a pc or laptop
From what I gathered they are guild based
But I would hardly suggest you to go for a pc with a 3060 you can build or let build a reasonable pc with good performance for the price you pay
Also make sure that you power supply is good enough that you can end of the year or next year buy a 4060 from the new generation with rev dis ๐
Thanks
keep checking the mail and still nothing
๐
I would be happy to check my emails all day long haha
Do we know yet how expensive shards will be?
They said we have to wait for 24 hours for the email.
5 hours left
the waiting is killing you too? ๐
yeah ive been waiting since yesterday
i dont mind the wait though
the game is way too good to be upset about a 24 hour wait
we just need to wait for a couple of hours ๐ i think it would be worth the wait ๐
yh
Yeah, i guess it could be worse -.-
when exactly is the land sale going to be? 
soon dude, soon ๐ likely in 1 month ull be able to play too
Will be announced this week
haha you just broke my heart
Yo whatโs up. Is there any word on when/ how the people on the list will be able to hop in the beta yet?
they said you get an email hopefully within 24h
latest this weekend they said 1-3 days it could take
Sickkkk thanks guys
We getting an illuvium insider this week for the land announcement?
In a few hours
let's hope he was not trolling again
Hope they don't just drop in in #๐ฃใannouncements. I want some hype and build up ๐ฅณ
more hype and i am getting a stroke oO
Maybe an epic trailer?
Check telegram hun
Oh that'd be cool
could you elaborate for people who live in the middle age and don't have tg? ๐
Im just fine with a simple date too tho lol
hello i am new here but i like the illuvium game idea can you tell me some information about it for example when is expected to be lounched and will i need to buy something to play it (for example land , nft or just ilv)
What do you mean by scholarship?
free to play, no wl, atm in private beta, land sale will be announced shortly (dutch auction lvl 1 land starts at 2 eth), will be epic
oh, in game you will need silv2 or/and eth
transactions between players = eth - rest possible with silv2
i didnt mean it like that ๐ฆ more like its not far away
will the land work the same way like axies in axie infinity (with it you can play to earn)
Land sale is on Eth mainnet yeah?
i only know two things about land:
you will get gas or oil (which you need for the real game)
you can find/scan illuviums or rare skins
Kind of but it's not a good 1:1 comparison. You DO need paid land to earn from Illuvium: Zero, but you don't need paid land to play Illuvium: Zero. Owning land also doesn't have an impact on your ability to play Illuvium (main game).
No expectations of major gas ramp given it's a dutch auction?
imx i think
Good question
but unsure on which method
It's on ETH, land will be minted and distributed on L2 though.
The sale is definitely on ETH L1 though.
ok thank you
could be to L1 to L2 mint, could be L2 to L2 mint
It's L1 sale, L2 mint.
GM
In the future a L2-L2 sale might be possible, but for now sILV2 isn't on IMX, so it would cause major problems.
Thanks Blickter
goes over 3 days to prevent that
Has anybody received an mail already of the selected testers?
I'm still waiting for mine! Pretty sure it will arrive soon ๐
Btw. Are we able to upgrade the free tier land into tier2 ? With gas /oil?
I am still waiting for the email....
Play&Own wen
No
So in that sense its more pay2win instead of play2earn.
You dont earn fuel if you play a free land
Not yet
Illuvium zero isnt p2e, illuvium is
Yeah but i thought gas and so on will be buyable
not me spamming refresh on announcements. no im smarter than that... right?
Yeah but they are connected with each other though? You create and upgrade illuvials in zero.
You use fuel for the illuvium game, there are 3 different fuels. 1 for travel, 1 for shards(pokeballs) and 1 for crafting items
my understanding is if you own the land in illuvium zero, then you can sell the materials you gather, so it is p2e in that case
Yes, but not with a free plot
IL:Z isn't a competitive game in the same way that Illuvium will be. You definitely have a financial advantage by having a higher tier of land, but I'm not sure Pay2Win is a good descriptor for the type of game it is.
troo troo
You do not create and upgrade Illuvials in IL:Z.
!land
There is no set date for the first land sale. The land sale will be announced in #๐ฃใannouncements when the date has been confirmed. Illuvium: Zero is a mobile mini-game that will interact with the main game. Illuvium: Zero will be a base building game staged on a piece of land. Paid land will produce Fuel ERC20 tokens and Blueprints, interacting with the main game. There will be 100k plots of paid land in total, and the first land sale will offer 20k of these plots for sale in a dutch auction format. All in-game development on land will be wiped when Illuvium launches. For more information, visit #๐ฎใilluvium-zero
i think once you own land, you can pay to accelerate upgrades. unclear if that will be pay2win or not. most likely not
thank you!
Depends on your defenition of "win" i guess
I cant log in beta anymore, does anyone else have this problem?
Need to buy more fuel
The Definition of p2win is if u get something in reward(land) for money. This is getting u an advantage already.
GM
I mean, if you're accelerating scanning or Fuel production, you're producing more stuff from your plot.
I might be old school, but pay to win always inferred that there was a competitive element to the game, where you were paying for an advantage over another player. If we're using a definition of "Pay to get something", the whole idea of land is pay to win. You buy land, and then it makes things. There's no bypassing that with skill etc.
How is it an advantage?
We actually had a few internal discussions about this very topic at Immutable.
Someone can come into a mobile rpg game and spend $100k to buy the best characters, nfts etc
They can then "have the best squad".
We cannot stop this - this is the entire point of the blockchain.
Is this pay to win?
Many might think yes, but it depends on the definition of 'win' and it requires an understanding of why players do not like this (hint: it's because 'winning' usually = beating up other players in PvP, so non-spenders get annoyed at spenders)
it does boil down to, what is your definition of 'win'
i agree with you. not really pay to win imo
Fuel,blueprints? And so on
You donโt get anything from land that would help you win in Illuvium.
Thats an investment over time imo, takes a long time to break even
Blueprints for skins don't net you an advantage in competitive settings, and you can buy Fuel normally without being a land owner.
he is saying you can pay to try to earn more (tbd if its "worth it"), but there is no real competitive mode or action within IL:Zero, so there is no "winning" (hence cant be p2win)
To me winning is making a profit. Not really about W or L
Then i understood the whole idea of zero wrong can you explain it to me? What can you do with it?
right exactly. this is the other way ppl look at it. a fair way to view it. in this case, you can pay to attempt to "win" by getting more $. it is a risky play that may or may not pay off
You can earn money while playing the mini game. Thatโs it.
Anyways, another thing to note is :
The primary extraction from blockchain games is going to be the actual enjoyment, just like traditional games
It was never about making a living, it was about enhancing a game's experience through blockchain
There is an article on infoluvial dot io
It's an interesting mix with investors/players/earners
I know some of them have yes
I wish Steam embraced NFT tech tbh. They will be left in the dust otherwise no?
Correct
every gaming studio in the world right now is thinking about their 'web 3 / metaverse' strategy
They will definitely lose market share, but it's a possibility that blockchain gaming doesn't completely overtake trad gaming. Crypto gaming is still an inconclusive experiment IMO.
Not all games would be better with blockchain, i think that's the key here as well
I know I enjoy some indie games that wouldn't make any sense to be crypto games.
right, image a full loot unreal tournament - only pros would survive in that long term all others would have a pay to play game
But the ones that are, will overtake the traditional games from that genre since it would be a better model when done correctly
But you will have your titles like elden ring that still are massive hits etc...but maybe 3-5 years from now, even they would integrate NFTs somehow, probably through cosmetics or w/e other use cases we find for NFTs by then
How did you get that from my screenshot from Illuvium #969490581220896778 ?? ๐ง๐คจ
gm
Kieran posted under 24 hours 5 and a half hours ago, should be any minute!
the exact dates of the mint are still awaiting a formal announcement at some point this week
Yes
thank's man! it will be by dutch, correct?
yessir. a regular dutch auction where you pay whatever you lock in at (not a 'fair' dutch auction like Ragnarok had)
what is the difference?
the lock in?
anyone receive email yet?
my understanding is that in Ragnarok's 'fair' auction they airdrop you the difference between the price you paid and the final price of the cheapest one essentially
and illuvium, you just pay whatever you pay > once you make the transaction, you are locked in and its done
isn't that absurd ? I can just buy it as soon as possible and get the difference later (gas war is the only remaining important factor?)
correct exactly. there are pros and cons to each format. I personally think Illuvium chose the best format
agree
Ragnarok's mint sold out in like 2 minutes (i believe) and everyone was salty who didnt get lucky enough to win gas war. illuvium is trying to avoid that because it is dumb (for lack of a better term)
GM frens, what is the system requirement for beta?
It's pretty ridiculous. There's some other factors at play as well. Land location, adjacency etc. actually matters with the way things are a set up, so it's not fair to treat every plot of a given tier as "the same" for pricing purposes. A T1 that completes a 3x3 segment including a T5 plot is likely much more valuable than a T1 adjacent to water and not nearby to any higher tier plot.
I dont know if they have defined that formally yet. i think the first wave of testers they want pretty strong systems, so probably RTX 3080 equivalent or higher GPUs is my guess
guys is there any estimate amount of how much ETH we might need to cover gas fees for the land sale?
great points! those could be crucial considerations for some folks
I've been playing on a 1050 and it's fine. Settings are turned down, but it runs smoothly.
There's no official recommendation, as it's a testing period.
Great, thanks guys.
I will tell you what you can expect with older PC-s when i get in in 1-2 days from here.
I have 1070 gtx and i5-8400 proc with 16Gigs
still waiting for the mail
pay to win is definitely hard to define and this discussion has no end. The extreme points can be pure skill based game (zero monetary involvement whatsoever at any given point) and pure money based game (more monetary involvement = more power till cap).
However, the best would be the find the balance instead of extremes. Being said that the balancing line should be more towards skill based because even if the game itself isn't pay to win natively, the factors of black market trading should be considered and accounted for.
If you need skill to increase 'power' ingame, this skill can be easily purchased outside the game's ecosystem and then once the power is gained the person can 'win' regardless.
Anything discussed about the date for land sale yet?
Should find out in the next like 4 hours.
Aiight! Am way too keen for land tbh hahah
whoa really? that's hype sets alarm
Waiting for the beta-access e-mail like
wouldnt count on it lol
Yeah that is Kieran time lol
Any experience / quality / fps
With known setups (gpu and cpu) from the private beta round 1 guys?
That would be real helpful for us in the 2. round ๐
Me too cos I canโt get beta access lol, Kieran hates me..
Hahahah your time will come donโt stress! Looks like they ramping shit up now!
this may be a stoopid question: when/how often will we be approving transactions for the blockchain when the real game comes out? just at the start and end of a run/game? or never while actually playing, only for trading items and buying shards, etc.?
wen land
Gonna be announced in a few hours
I'm also curious about this, wondering if I need PC upgrades
I haven't seen any drops in quality or FPS for content creators but my 5 year old PC can't compare
Email today??? ๐
Yo
still waitingg
Anyone know how to get into land sale?
There will be an announcement in a few hours
time to hoard silv2 before it moons
Got your Play & Earn future right here ๐๐ผโโ๏ธโจ
Iโm trying not to! Feel like iv been waiting forever lol
guys what are you expectations on what the price for t1 land will be?
i know it starts for 2eth but how low do you think it will go
already did moon, but yes its gonna go up a bit more i think
Iโm testing on 3050 i7 PC and iMac 64GB 2017 with Nvidia 8 GB card. The mac lags sometimes, the new pc glitches maybe twice a season.
Does the beta have built in fps counter?
only FPS cap, I cannot see FPS counter
it does not ๐ฆ
Lets see how the most og gpu handles the game. I got a 1080 ti + 240hz monitor ๐ฅ
And pc/windows optimized out the wazoo
I have not, i guess those who received might be in-game instead of sitting on discord:p
Yes. it will be quiet here soon)
Just saw the list and I am in the beta!
Iโll have to jump in later on today. So excited
Would people class a 2070super as medium or high spec?
It performs similarly/slightly worse than 3070
CPU is i7 10700k so should be fine
Then you will receive an email probably today that you will download it in the website
Congratulations ๐
Wait there was an email? I hope I didnโt erase itโฆ 
think they have not sent it
Ah ok, we are in the list but no email yet got it
wen email ;-;
still waiting
3-4 hrs and its 24 hrs, its not "within" then ;-;
I seriously recommend my most recent video! I think the consensus around the community is around 50% of starting price
Land Sale announcement is today?
can we please all agree on 30%? ๐
yo any new illuvials on survival mode today?
Things whales ๐ณ want you to believe. NFA
Hahaha I would be so happy with 30% haha!
@severe timber havenโt had time to play today!
@manaboy.eth#9492 hahahaha what you thinking? Iโve heard between 30%-50% is the goal
i just got in as a beta tester waiting for the email
Then a whale gulps all the T1 lands at 51%
cant wait to play
You might say 50% now but I bet FOMO will kick in at 80% at latest
i hope they sell for 50% of listing price or else i cant buy
only got 6 silv2 im broke
So im guessing nda is off the window?
Rich in a few weeks maybe! Stay vigilant fren
the worst thing would happen for us broke, is it would get soldout before the 3days span
then we can just wait for the nxt batch and save some more sILV2
i dont wanna get caught holding 6 silv2 and no land thatd suck
it cannot be sold before
In the balancer sale everyone agreed to wait until 15, and the lowest it his was 42. Then everyone agreed to reveal a different Lynx, and then everyone voted for the same fire lynx.
O dear
ohhh there's a max count can be sold per day? for the span of 3days?
sneaky everyone !
there are batches every 2 hours
Trust is a two-way street
How do you become Ranger?
Guys go ahead agree on 50%
Ill do 51%
Level 5 in #๐ใbot-commands
refreshing my illuvium twitter feed waiting patiently, hopefully land sale date is revealed in next few hours
be active and hit lvl 5
๐
Fraggy! Thought you were busy today
Just reading a bit while eating
if you dont mind can you send source? thanks in advance ๐
Do mods get any benefits? Thanks for your service anyways ๐
oh! I now got my beta but can't pass wave 15
I only played 1 game and got rekt at 12
i think i missed out on the beta :(
Practice is still priceless. Or maybe there's a price, there's always a price
they get paid 1 ILV per week
Wrong
oh its more
Dubious
I see, thanks
t-minus 4 hours
lets keep guessing till he says yes
you can check #๐ฎใilluvium-zero pinned comments
No
wen email ;-;
soon
I made it into the beta but am unsure how to access it I did not receive an email.
it hasnt been sent
wait
wen!
fax wen
see you soon ๐
I reckon if you keep asking it will come quicker
That's my theory with women anyways
lel been asking for almost 24 hrs
๐
almost there
Got access ahead of lots of others. Should be happy ๐
HAPPY but sad happy
Will the main network game continue on the level from beta ?
I am itch to try playing with Arlen lol even I do not earn.
JUNE 2ND
LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND
omg
Nice one
Land Sale Drops June 2nd!!!!
BUY ALL THE SILV2!!!!!
lets gooooooooooooo
Lfg
LFG!!!!
Link?
To the Moon
LFG
yet another "wen" opportunity is dead :/

where is the date posted
Lets goooooooooo!
but why on a thursday, I think it would be better on a weekend
sILV2 is mooning โฅ
it's 3 days
We've been waiting for months. Any day is good. Also it takes days to end
Where can I view silv2 price live?
oh ok
U could put it on Monday at 3am. I donโt care
i dont understand. 5% to landholders and ?% to ILV stakers?
Event will finish on a weekend.
But no matter what u do someone will always complain
Watch out not to get rekt by the โsell the newsโ scenario
silv2 gunna pump when the news gets out i reckon
Is there a land price yet?
Crypto 101
so its not on IMX?
You gotta play the land to get that %5. It's not like having land will give you anything
๐๐๐๐ YAY
so does the cost of land go to the stakers right?
wen email
if bought with ETH
When payed with eth yes.
Mint should be on IMX as was mentioned before
i thought a small commission goes to IMX for any marketplace transactions?
and t4 land starts at 80E\
Buy via eth network? Mint on imx??
curious who buys the t4 lands.
yes
It has finally come
๐ณ ๐ ๐ณ
I have quite a few silvs
will do ๐ โฅ
Finally, which is better eth and ilv2 when buying land
can someone help me understand why the higher tiered stuff is so expensive.
the 300% production rate and all of that, is that just for fuel or what?
Where to check price bro?
So another week for more info๐
BUY ALL THE SILV QUICK!
๐ ๐
sILV2 ser
sILV2 because it has the same buying power with 1 ILV
Ok, thanks bro
Where to check land price guys newbie here
Can you buy land directly with cc?
No. ETH or sILV2
what if i wont be able to buy land, and silv2 drops
See DeFi is growing after all 
That's one reason I mentioned ppl should be careful trading sILV2
well at least the land sale is after my wifes bithday party my handover should be gone by then
either sell sILV2 or keep for in game use
I hope everyone had a happy 4th
Hello people :)
Keep for 2nd sale? NFA
I called June 3rd in here other day, pretty close ๐
It will still have the same buying power in illuvium game, next landsales and illuvitar sales
Illuvium the alpha of all alpha
Missed the target by an inch. Pretty close
Buying more silv2 tomorrow when my locked up SLP expires
Do we know the time?
๐ฅ
Have 48 sILV2 so far. Need that tier 3 land
As per announcement, 9:00 UTC
This next month will go by really fast
Sheesh
Anyone know what does the land owner gets? It collects ILV / ETH when players play on their lands?
So if June 2nd is the Land Sale... when will Overworld Launch?
September?
Because I am guessing the Beta of IZ will run for 2+ months to find problems before having it go live and generating Fuel.
5AM NY time (EST) ๐๐ป
What is overworld?
Tbh I didnโt read past the date ๐๐ผโโ๏ธ๐
Open world Pokรฉmon hunting for Illuvial creatures
The section of the game where you run around and find the illuvials to battle and catch
Exploration and Illuvial hunting!
anyone else waiting for the mail
lol yeah the beginning of the announcement dropped everything ppl have been waiting for 
Anyone can explain this to me? Thanks a lot
Land owners will generate fuel, which can be traded for other currencies. Basically printing assets.
What do you mean collects ILV/ETH?
do we move our silv2 to imx? thats where it is gonna happen right? the landsale.
If we've got ETH/ILV on an exchange like Binance, are we able to use this for the land sale?
No. You buy on IlluviDEX (website) and mint on IMX.
So itโs like a nft that prints out โfuelโ and the fuel can be exchange in the illuvium marketplace right? But why the player would need those fuel?
Only ETH or sILV2 that is in your wallet (like MetaMask) can be used
There was basic info about prices. Can anyone tag it to me pls, couldn't find
times ticking, i want my email ;-;
2 ETH for basic land, thats to expensive
Fuel is needed in the main game if a player wants to go to other tiers.
It's akin to buying a pack of cards. It will cover costs to go to different zones.
i can feel the mail. its so close
thats cheap
That's the starting price
its dutch auction tho, with 12k supply for first batch could go down
sameee only 3-4 hours left
The announcement mentions to read the IIP on the website.
That is probably the best place foe it.
And remember Starting prices and Dutch Auction (so prices decrease until someone bids)
The email will request some NDA and then you will have to wait again xD
ABSOLUTE HYPE
@summer walrus what does that mean ?
wait again? for how long
means it gets cheaper every minute, 2.5% cheap, if no one buys
Could I get a bit of elaboration on the difference between sILV2 and ILV? Sorry, bit of a noob here ๐
not sure, depends on when they check it
Guys where to purchase silv2
not more waiting not again
how much does the land costs?
Do we have a pool ?
09:00 UTC for the land sale is 5:00am EST and 2:00am PSTโฆ
2 4 6 80 live auction if i remember correctly
Hey just saw land sale there wasnโt anything about price of da
there will be ~278 batches every 2 hours
!sILV2 is a side currency to ETH. It had limited use case and has the same prove of ILV and can officially be claimed through staking
absolutly not affordable those lands, even with silv2
2 eth?
ye i think not sure
Batches of tier 1 thought 5?
its what i heard from a video
batches of every tier, except tier 5. Tier 5 is english auction an there are only 2
Yes prices are correct.
You don't need land to play though
but i need land to feel good
Oh I see, so two tier 5 plots every two hours?
๐ฅฒ
Staking ILV will make me feel better knowing people will burn their SILV2 and spend ETH
no no, 2 tier 5 on this land sale. 7 in total (so 2/7 Tier 5 this land sale)
WEN WEN WENNN
Got it, didnโt realize there were so few tier 5s
๐
wonder what theyre gonna go for
Thanks, that makes a lot more sense! If I've got ILV in my Metamask wallet, am I able to use that for the land sale? Or do I need sILV2?
How can I apply to join the land sale?? Anyone know?
Yep.. I secured 7 sILV2 to buy at least tier 1 but with the price of ILV rn it's impossible to me to buy even tier 1 ....
SILV2 or ETH
have sILV2 or ETH ready and wait
What is the use case for fuel tho?
Details/instructions out next week
The 2eth are starting prices. 7silv2 is doable for a tier 1
i think at least 10-11
Main game with travels cost and shards. A few more things in the main game, but I forget
only sILV2 or ETH can be used
But that is almost 2eth?
2 eth are 6k$ and 7 sILV2 are 3.5k $ ...
yeah u want more incase, plus be ready for gas
Silv2 will have same buying power as ilv
Any people looking at the t3 and t4 lands? What % are you guys waiting for the price to drop for these kinds of lands? Since I'm assuming that as the prices are way higher people will try to buy in after a while.
It will start at that and go down over time, ideally everyone waits to buy until we are 1 ETh or below haha
But at the moment i claim Silv2 price was 1500$
My thoughts exactly
most buy at 45-50% drop
hey
unless youre rich
Remember these are just starting prices. Try to resist fomoing in as soon as land goes on sale. Chill and be patient ๐
good, finally have a date for land sale
who bought it?
BOUGHT WHAT? theres nothing out for sale yet besides the collectibles before that doesnt do anythin
nothing to buy now
Love a good flowchart ๐
Thans
Gm
i would assume that t3 and t4 goes even deeper than 50%, because way less people are interested in them
i guess depends on how bullish or bearish the market is at that time
Yes that's what I was thinking, hopefully price drops till 30-25%
this baited me so hard i was so excited
rekt
i thought i got the beta mail well 3 hours left
Seems like market is only going to be neutral at best by land sale. But who knows I guess
Lots of uncertainty
spot etf annoucement and here we go
If price falls to 22.5% of starting, no eth will have to be used in this land sale, and all plots can be sweeped with sILV2. NFA, just do w that as you please
some people got their mail already for the new batch? or gonna be released at the same time to everyone that is chosen?
Iโm so hyped for this
I think aus got a btc ETF and nothing changed. I could be wrong. I feel like the news impact on the market is over estimated
Since when does land get rev dis??? ๐ง
still nothing
can someone pump ILV? need my sILV2 to have more purchasing power
i'm sure there will be people that dont know about silv for land
yeah but if ILV drops in value too, then itll cost more ILV2 to pay for it, you risk more as well
I don't think Beta mail has been sent yet
theres no perfect route, but if ILV drops 50%, anyone buying rn, would be paying eth prices + gas anyways, so it wont be a discount
I am fucking excited for land
Nope haven't received email yet, sure it'll come soon ๐๐
I meant Silv2, looking at the transaction history
Land gets 5% in game rev now?
Wanna spend all my net weath
we need US spot ETF, any other country wont have much effect althou the more countries have the likely US will have one.
Only if they play.
5% of fuel revenue, that's not new
wdym? if they play with the land how does the 5% come back
Simply having land means nothing
Anyone else thinking the nft of lands could look better?
Thats a theoretical projection with all the sILV2 in the market rn. Just want everyone to know the percent so they dint hope it falls to low
Thatโs not how it reads
Where I can find "IIP-20, which has the sale parameters." that mentioned in announcements?
Fair call us obviously much bigger market then aus
Dump it
dump u
That is RevDis. Not new info. If they don't play, they get nothing.
waiting to buy the dip ๐คฉ
With the hype leading up to a landsale, a price dump may happen but its all speculation.
Its a sell the news event?
Itโs poorly worded ๐ฏ just sayin
guys will creating buildings and mining fuel cost any tokens?
5% ingame rev is right
I cant give financial advice friend, only personal opinion based on charts presented
makes two of us mate
Well it needs explanation, but news feed wasn't meant to explain. It was meant to let know. The explanation was in IIPs
In ZERO game* tho, when you say in game you think of ILLUVIUM as a whole tbh
Hi
Updated the announcement with IIP-20 link
Use the same email you registered?
and t5 land cant be purchased using silv2 right?
wen illuvitars
In kieran we trust
fuel is the ingame currency of ALL ILLUVIUM IP
So so how does this Dutch auction work?
Why is the land sale happening in June? Weren't you aiming for mid May?
So we wont need eth for gas then? Since it Will be on IMX?! ๐
can we use silv2 for t5?
thank you ser
no
This looks great! โจ
โจ
can someone explain the production % thing?
does that mean if we generate 1 fuel per minute with 300% production we produce 3 fuel per minute
hey ho whuz up ๐
Think you still need gas to mint?
To buy yes, to mint in IMX not sure what it needs
correct
Hey guys- any idea when the wave 2 beta emails will go out ?
Everyone go RAID TWITTER
https://twitter.com/illuviumio/status/1522155719809650688?s=21&t=e6BvpcSsV2-fSmcqQucOAA
3 hours max
Btw the alchemix account tagged on twitter is suspended , just FYI
Land sale hype!
This is great it means I can lower my entry a bunch ๐
From now I assume ? Has there been some announcement to that effect or anything ?
Let's go
I did, it's fine now. I was a little freaked out
many mods said within 24 hours and the announcement was 3 hours from now yesterday
Wer is my email 
Nice, thank you
June 2nd is there a reason it's so far away?
yw
kieran said it yesterday on the call
Is the mint going to be a raffle? Or gas war?

i see
It's a dutch auction to prevent gas wars. See #๐ฃใannouncements
wen email
wen email
Is sale public?
emailll
land anouncement and people dump silv2
smh
lmfaoo it actually does, this is hilarious XD
how expansive would be a land u mean? ...
How much is starting price
2 thicc red candles Loool
2 4 6 80 and live auction
Go sale
because its so far away
Can we play the game already?
people must be thick.
when land drops silv2 = 0.95 ilv confirmed
yay sILV2 sale, lfg
still need ilv to hold price tbh
I thought land sale is gonna be on imx. Why do we have to worry about gas?
people will want ilv once we get the yumming staking rewards from land sale
its better to buy with eth or silv2
u need to buy eth to buy silv2
best market?
Do we get revdivs from the land sale if we have ILV staked?
on twitter your post says: OWN TO EARN . written as it is, it seems that it is enough to have the land to be able to earn.
so 5% of auction sales go to land holders who use the land, and it gives them fuel? @humble wave
silv2 it save cost but land sale it long
No. You gotta play. That's advertisement and to let you know you can earn using your land aside from in-game sales.
no 5% of revenue of people playing is split to land owners
Any news on what % of the land sale will go into revdiv?
100%?
Do u need ILV to buy land?
they said to only ppl who use the land
I'm planning on converting my ILV to buy land. What's the play here? convert it to eth or silv2? I'm only seeing ETH prices for the DA. Why is everyone suggesting going the sILV2 route?
Yes. Selling fuel is the in-game sale, + you get a piece of RevDis too
the 5% revenue is for year?
Sounds too good to be true? Lol
I think the 5% come from the Fuel land owners generate and sell
ready for land sale
oh so u get a bonus when selling fuel as a land holder who minted? and thats how the 5% comes to u?
You can buy land in either eth or sILV2. sILV2 is pegged to the price of ILV, so you're basically getting about a 50% discount with sILV2 at this price
100%of land sales goes to revdis to stakers?
Tier 4 land is 80 eth? Did I read that right?
starts at 80
starting yes
LFG
and what obout T1?
how get the people fuel they have NO land? ... i think its to expansice
You having land, means your wallet is on the database. Now depending on how long you play, you get a piece of 5% as extra. You also sell fuel to earn ETH.
*expansive
Gotta say that my fiancee broke up with me after 9 years. So if anyone who got drafted for the beta can't play, for any reasons, show some love for your homie here and let's talk about how can you make me less miserable.
what will be the price for T1?
selling to illuvium for eth?, or to other players for eth?, and if its depending on how long u play, then when do you actually get your allocation?
2 eth starting price
2 ETH and it decreases 2.5% every minute
tx
You sell to balancer pool to get ETH and players pay the balancer pool with ETH to get fuel.
tx
goodmorning everyone, may i ask question
is there any kind of whitelist for us to be able to participate in buying the land? or isit just DA?
so u go thru illuvium still, u cant go p2p?
How sILV price for an auction would be calculated? I understand that 1sILV= 1 ilv. But would it be adjusted in real time based on eth/ilv rate?
emailllll
its open for everyone. no whitelist
wen email
Market place is IlluviDEX.
what is the initial price for DA?
we need email.
What do you mean? That's the whole unique concept of Illuvium?
but theres still 3 steps right, you dont have to option to give fuel to another player for free?
Saw an Illuvium email and thought it it was my Beta info. Just land sale announcement.
Land sales wont be with IMX?
sameee
is there any estimation on how much illuvitars packs will cost?
Hopefully soon. They said within 24 hours and we're not quite there yet.
there wont be packs i dont believe, u collect thru the openworld, and players can sell it
ive been up all night since i saw that i was selected for beta testing waiting for the email
I don't think so. Unless it's an ERC-20 token that can be transferable. Why would you wanna send away your main source of income for free?
if u got a friend that wants to play, or u playing urself with the fuel
what does the tier mean
We needed to line up our marketing campaigns with IMX, Chainlink, Balancer, and the audits are still not complete. We had to set a date, and without knowing exactly when they would be finished, we had to give ourselves enough buffer in case we had to make changes to the contracts. It's doubtful we will but changing the dates on our partners wasn't an option.
It does give us a little more time to build the system to save GAS which, if it works, will be PR in itself. Especially after our little tussle with Otherside
Kieran the great
once we have a land, what will it cost to create a structure on our land?
Where to purchase Silv2 ?
uniswap
check the link on the last #๐ฃใannouncements for all info
So if all sell at top price(I realize they wonโt) thatโs 500mil usd. Seems a bit high starting prices. How often and how much do they decrease?
i dont mean Illuvials, i mean illuvitars
Do we have any idea on what will be cost of lands?
Where will be a secondary market for land nft?
Okay to tweet this out? 
2.5% s minuet
Hello
sorry i try to read it but i still dont understand or found it
Reaching lvl 5 soon. Hope it will get me in the soon as well
This channel has exploded - poor mods
gm
I want to play too
i wanna playyyy
Whats up guys
Or is it? ๐
lovely thanks man
kidding,.....kinda......not really
new here where can i find resource on the battle system, like what is strong against what
Members of our guild are asking if harvesting and mining and capture/sell on illuvidex is โin game revenueโ, or is only fuel in zero โin gameโ please
All the details in the IIP-20 link above
we email
Hmm.. More time to buy that cheap silv2... Tier 3,4,5 land not out of reach for us plebs maybe. Let the accumulation begin!
maybe more clarity will come in the docs to follow who knows
Now that I don't look like a twelve year old yes
do you know when beta tester emails will be sent ive been up all night ๐
I donโt see it in the IIP
@agile tapir ?
Fuel is used for travelling, curing shards and creating equipments.
You will also be able to create skins through scanning illuvials and making blueprints.
So in this case, in-game purchases means that the players will purchase fuel from the dao. 5% of that revenue will go to illuvium zero players.
Trading and other player to player actions will not cost fuel, so are not part of in game purchases.
wennnn emilllll its almost 24 hrs ;-; why last min
All transactions with the game are consideres in game revenue. Anything on illuvidex are not since theyre consisered interactions with another player.
Hi hi hi โ๏ธ
email...
So basically what garf said lol

I don't understand this mechanism (sILV2 for land purchase). Can you please point me to some guide they published?
since it cost fuel for ingame actions, isnt it right we can trade with users that require fuel to do the same ingame actions
so illuvitars are not part of "in-game" revenue?
That is correct. You will not have to play the game and pay รญn the game to mint illuvitars.
50%? But how?
You can still get revenue from Illuvitars but staking ILV
Any emails yet?
no emails yet : (
check the pinned messages in the illuvium-zero channel in this discord there are a couple google doc spreadsheets that show the prices in sILV2 vs. ETH and you can see teh difference
samer
#justiceforemails
Ain't showing . Can I DM you ?
its bc silv2 is cheaper rn, but if ilv drops 50% or more, youll be paying a premium with silv on drop date
Thank you very much!
What is it Dutch auction?
a decreasing auction till bought
How are we all doing? anyone else buying this amazing silv2 dip?
Since each type of fuel will become an erc 20 token you should be able to trade them with others.
Though they intend to use a balancer pool for it. So you would sell your fuel to the pool, get eth back, and the other party would spend eth to get the fuel out.
Lansale haipu
And will it be open for everyone?
Prices decrease over time (2.5% per minute) so you buy when it hits a price you can afford
so they will be a erc20 token?
Why did sILV dump on landsale announcement?
bc people sold
Thats the idea thats been going around the discord yes
For discount 
Yeah that's what I thought when the game is out that 100% of ingame purchases go back but didn't know that the initial land sales were included 100%
probably 1 month is too far away for people trying to do a quick flip
Yes and why did they? You can finally use sILV for something...
but in a month and they just want to flip
Auction will be open for everyone? Or some lvl/status/wl required?
People have weird time-frames
Good time to join a guild now to combine land plots for the future.
everyone
Thanks! ๐
1 month in crypto is a long time for traders
No they are free. But you can pay for speedups if you want to turbo it
Will we see updated Illuvium Zero gameplay before land sale? That would be so awesome!
Illuvidex fees do not count. It's only ingame stuff curing shards, travel, fusing etc
@inner topaz do you have an estimate on how many people you thinking will be bidding on land?
You don't need fuel to trade on the IlluviDEX. It's only things that require fuel
Fuel will be on L2 right?
Around 80K people have registered and we have barely pushed it. We have around 1.1m people who just received that email. Who knows
Yeah wow that's crazy!
Hi! When can I play the Beta test?
Do u guys consider having whitelist members on land sale
Do we buy the speedups from illuvidex or google play/app store?
Oh, I didn't realize the land sale registration was separate to the main Illuvium registration... Done that now too โ
I guess the email is delayed
I need to write an IIP prior to the sale launching that gives the eDAO the authority to temporarily pause the sale and increase the starting prices if they are continually bought at the top. That is one of the ways that GAS can start creeping up. I haven't discussed it with the council yet but we will need to talk with the community about it anyway
We have quite a few updates planned specifically around Land. We don't want to bother the people who have signed up purely for the game updates
I didn't get the email. Is registration bugged?
Axie land OR ilv land 
hi
Lol
@inner topaz any insight to this question?
1.1m emails they take a while to send
Oke fair
So if I claim staking v1 rewards in sILV I can use that to buy land is that correct?
Ah gottcha!
So probably quite a lot of people haven't signed up to the land email sub, because they're already signed up via the main page ๐ [and didn't realize it was separate]
You have not claimed yet sir?
Great buzz around Illuvium right now ๐
With the land sale, just wondering when the revdis methodology IIP is being proposed/debated. I assume that will need to be done prior to the land sale
Ive been away for the last month
Does anyone have the document where they indicate the prices of the lands ?
only sILV2
So excited for everything happening here. It's going to be a helluva year in Illuvium town.
2 months, you have not been earning staking rewards on V2
shouldnt it be only sending 500 emails? why 1.1mill
@inner topaz If we buy SILV2 to buy land are we technically getting a discount compared to if we bought with ILV/ETH?
I am looking for the document but I can't find it
We are working hard on that. Grant is polishing some of the art and then we will do another release of footage
RIP, Are the rewards the same sILV vs ILV?
at current rate yes, but if ILV drops over 50%, then no
It's looking pretty cool! The new graphics are incredible
wen email D::::
if 5% goes to landowners, then stakers get only 95%? Or is it the other 5%?
+1 ๐
Awesome ๐!
That feels like a great risk/reward ratio to me!
@inner topaz will t5 land auction also take place 02.06?
5% of fuel revenue
The DAO vault gets the rest to maintain balance of supply I believe
lel could be, but jus be prepared, cuz the uniswap has eth gas fee's too, plus if ILV does dip, youd need to acquire more silv2
There are two types of income from the game: fuel and everything else without fuel. right?
Yes, but you have to migrate ASAP
i bought at peak of ILV, and staked at peak of ILV, my staked earnings cost more to claim than the reward... and my ilv dropped sad
whats the currency to buy ilv
huh really? how much did you stake and how long have you staked for?
about like 800$, and for a year XD
whats the currency to buy land
eth or silv2
Ethereum or sILV2
wen email
@summer walrus do I need to stake ilv to be able to qualify for the presale
i think my pc is gonna start complaining about how many refreshes
shouldn't you have earned more than double that by now? how much is it to claim?
no
i bought at like very peak pree much, when ilv was around 1700 XDD
No. And there is no pre-sale
When we can play private beta?
๐ฆ
the claim is like 0.04 ILV LOL
oh damn ๐ฆ
How to get ranger ๐ฆ
yeah i fomoed, i feel bad
do we need to register somewhere to buy land?
So very proud to be the first person to like and comment for the land news on Twitter haha LFG!!
no, dutch auction all allowed
I believe it will turn around! Would you dca in? or just leave it and wait?
I've never checked my email so often than today
In 5 years it wont matter if you bought at $200 or $2000.
Is there any possible way to get in private beta now ๐ฆ
soo anyone can get a land if they hav eth???righ?
im a ranger too, where do we need to sign up for beta. Sorry for all the questions. Been away for a while, had covid and spine surgery.
im chillin atm, tight on liquidity, and illuvium delays has been kinda sad for alot of the ppl ik anticipating for illuvium
Is the ILV circulating supply on coingecko correct? Less than 700K? What's the token yearly emission?
Yeah that's fair!
if u arent on the list in #๐ฃใannouncements u didnt win this batch
Hello, someone know the started Price of T1 Land ?
2 eth
Thats very sad
Hey guys can someone explain to me the staking for Illuvuim and slp
theres more batches tho, even if u didnt win this one
Oh shit ๐ thank
When and what will be the requirements
Do I need to purchase slp token aswell
Im on the list!
no one knows yet, you can get ranger role aka level 5 if u wish to prepare, but exact info for next batch isnt released prior
Im just unsure what to do next @summer walrus
congrats, then you wait for email, should be any minute now
iam on the list #๐ฃใannouncements when can i play ?
So it could be like a month from now?
no slp, has nothing to do with Illuvium.
kieran says maybe end of month, but could delay if anything
hmm prety sad abt the land numbers
oh really. Like today or you mean like anytime during the week?
I see
which part? the price?
somewhere today, suppose to be within the next 2 hrs, but id say within today jus incase
Nope
๐ฅ
which email are we talking about? I didn't get anything
oh man, I wont sleep now
Why does the treasury have so much ILV in it? Shouldn't we have a lot more tokens in circulation based on the tokenomics?
lel thas what i thought yesterday too, when i won the spot XD but its been a day and hasnt been emailed yet oof
1.1m?
Per day or total?
Are we all getting beta access?
Hes talking about the land sale email
No its the land sale announcement email
Will players be able to "see" each other in the Illuvium Overworld game like MMO games? Or will it predominantly be a singleplayer experience?
singleplayer
single player "for now"
guess we stay up togther
But ofcourse there is pvp and stuff
Yeahh just thought it'd be cool if there was actually player to player interaction outside the competitive gameplay
oh
Chatting to your opponent during PvP may get a little toxic
would be sick
haahah right especially when money is on the line xD
especially if money is on the table
Haha snap, my thoughts exactly!
Oh yikes, yeah thats not much. Maybe you can look into slp
Hi everyone
yeah not much, but its alright, slp tanks fast, theyre for their game not the governance AXS coin
@humble flame @thorn blade if I lost ETH I'd be salty as well, my opponent would cop it.
is there any way to get beta access other then waiting a month?
nope. Pay for one i guess, illegally lol
.-.
What do we win in PvP mode ? In ranked we will win points I guess but that's it ? and ETH bets are only for viewers no
who just dumped silv2 price...
anyone know the mint price??
2eth tier 1
@sonic dagger did, he pretends to by a humble guy but he's a whale.
I haven't been able to find an answer to this in any interviews or docs yet - but has the team addressed how they will fight the securities laws in terms of ILV paying out revenue? There's been a few projects in the last that dumped RevDis because of legal advice (eg NFTs on Solana). Wondering if the team has a strategy or lawyers ready for this since RevDis is a huge part of the story?
holly cow and the rest
Hey all, I am in the private beta per the announcement list. However when I go to https://play.illuvium.io it says "i'm registered" - but no download links. Anyone have any ideas here?
I was going to ask if there is any backup plan for this situation, good to see it'll be under control ๐
higher on the rest
80 tier 4 ๐๐ฅฒ
so exact amt revealed?
which platform are u guys using for buying sILV?
You may already have received an email explaining what you have to do
6 for t2, 20 t3, 80 t4
I need an answer to this too
u sure ?
๐ฅฒ tier 4
dextool
starting price yes, and t5 is auctioned regularly highest bidder
love!
nothing unfortunately, in spam either. it seems they did it based on my discord name and not my "beta registration" ?
u needed both to qualify for this batch of beta, Website + ranger on discord
damnnnnn they are way out of reach then ...sad life !!
Hmm mails can take times to arrive as mods were saying
I was asking this a few months ago. I think since the founders are from aus, murica laws arent an issue for them. I could be wrong
I see things getting saucy at the start of the T1 sale, when the gravity of the situation has sunk in for those that missed out on T4 -T2
That makes more sense. I'll wait, cheers
Me poor lol
there is going to be land sales in the future keep in mind
its a dutch auction so t1-t4 decays at a 2.5% rate every minute, u can still be patient for a cheaper price
Once Illuvium is established it would be cool to see an MMORPG made out of the overworld. Something similar to Runescape with insane graphics.
Gensler still served Terra labs even offshore. If Murica degens use it then they try to force their jurisdiction
Q3 2027
also keep in mind, they almost 100% wont decrease cost tho, so getting in this batch would be most valuable imo
they may not decrease the cost, but people could value them less in the future and just not buy them until price drops further than they did the first time
Also our ASIC can be strict too, they even coming after youtubers
If anything land prices will go up for next round, more people will know bout the game.
90 minutes for mail
i mean if ppl would value them less in the future, do u rlly wanna buy em then lel, theres always the chance of that ofc
Ahh no clue then lol. As i said, i could be wronf
but typically u would want it to do good, if youre here and liking the idea
oh yeah i was just saying it is possible. i have no idea what will actually happen โค๏ธ
Kieran said "it's like shares" the other day on the blockworks podcast. That's classic Gensler hard on material
what mail?
haahah lets see want to grab a tier 3 at soem cheap price
Ah man, can't wait to play this beauty
Sorry im not quite familiar with that and no clue who or what gensler is. Care to elaborate?
the mail that has nda and download for beta testers
less than 2k in t3's so i think theyl;l go out prree fast
There is nothing else out there like it.
I mean sushi liquidity thingy with staking
ahhhh, gutted I wanna play ๐ญ
ah, cost more gas tho, but isnt worth moving rn imo for what my ILV is worth in staking xD
Yeah that's so exciting, like a world premiere
were you selected as a beta tester too?
lets hope the best or t2 and t1 or always the choice
nope! I did apply tho
t2 - t1 are my targets
Yeah not moving but investing more(if you have)
yep mee too lets hope i can get one of em
haha i bet!! Everyones itching to play
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He used to teach crypto at MIT then joined the SEC and used his knowledge to attack crypto projects. Terra Luna, Celsius, Coinbase, XRP and lots of small projects they already suing
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ill stream some gameplay here if im allowed to
not sure what the nda has in it yet
๐๐ผ
Ahhh gotcha thanks! So basically hes a smart Ahole? ๐
We need streams.
๐ hope the nda will allow it
No NDA for this round.
really?
wen emailllll
Hope someone from the team clarifies for ya though. Im curious too
ru sure 2nd round beta doesnt need nda?
how do you get the ranger tag?
coz they want som of that free advertisement to spread the game
I've seen it confirmed from a couple of trusted sources in this chat.
chat level 5
you have to just be active in chat
Level 5 on this discord
oh that sounds awesome can you recall anyone who said so?
yes, said by kieran and rich
Thanks guys! Is there somewhere to check levels?
yes im so happy
found it!
so we just need the mail
He's famous for "protecting" Americans from free money. When I got $45k from dYdX airdrop, my USA friends got nothing because of SEC rules. He protected them out of alot of cash
I'm checking chat history trying to find it lol, I'm struggling, give me a few.
no worries i believe you
so lluvium zero is a mobile game?
anyone who's gotten into beta but still got no email like me?
chatting till rank 5, ty for the info guys
unfortunately so but only 90 minutes left
Dafuq what a c***
you got the timer on ๐
yessir
Whats land mint price? How to get that? And what's dutch auction means?
Hm
wennn emailllll
I want beta access ๐ข
hey there I got on the list yesterday. How to start playing?
me too
can someone sneak me on the list 
me three
me 4
U got it this time?
yeah i won a spot
There was a form for the Beta registration in January. Has there been new ones after that?
no new forms that one is still being used
second batch of testers got announced yesterday
no, the form is the same form ppl submit
they pick people periodically, 700ppl so far i believe
who knows exactly
emailll
Waiting from 2 mo
Public beta release isnโt announced yet. But they are expanding the private beta participant list
Alright, thanks! I'm not sure if I put my discord name there so was just wondering if I missed a new one
WEN MAIL
we need a wen email countdown
Wen open beta
the first batch was select people, the 2nd batch was to Ranger in discord and ppl who signed the website, u dont have ranger so seems like u didnt qualify
hey there I got on the list yesterday. How to start playing?
u wait for email
Not all rangers tho(me included
)
the ppl who signed up with email? I did?
one day ๐ค
like 2 mo ago
well u had to do BOTH to get a chance, so u needed ranger as well
i signed up right when beta forms came out xD
You arent a ranger(lvl 5)
ahaa... ok so email of verification will come. Do you know when?
I see ๐ฆ
suppose to be within the next hr and a half, but could take up to the rest of the day i think
thx for info man, appreciate ๐
๐
WEN EMAILLL
technically that countdown should be 1 hr ahead, i believe they started announcing the names around 5 am
i put the time of the announcement
but finished around 6, but sad why it take full 24 hrs
Is it a offical countdown for mail?
yes and no
ok
delays could happen lol, but yes based on kierans approximation it should be right