#💬〕general
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Good morning. Such a very cool project.
Wut
Interesting.. Haha.
How to get airdrop?
No >:(
You must find Dupree and follow his directions
You are the direction
He could also try to beat Goku as ssssssss seyan, but yeah that's almost impossible
Hey guys! Has there been a private sale yet? Is there any game play at all? Has there been a closed beta? Thanks for all the help
- No
- there was a short demo teaser
- no but there will be.
So it is safe to say that I’m early to be apart of this gaming community!
Hello all 🙂
I’ve looked into the public sale, how do I participate in this?
You'll be able to be involved March 30th on Balancer, check it out in #🔗〕helpful-links
On medium
The timeline didnt mention exchanges listing 🤔
They said its not a focus yet
@plain delta Can we make telegram community for reaching more members to join ILV game and Supporting easily for new members ?
I noticed there was a Telegram community already... while it says “official” in the name, I’m not entirely sure how official it is since I haven’t seen it listed on the Twitter account/site/Medium.
Maybe a council member has more info on that though
OY! I checked everywhere but helpful links! How could I?
I bring dishonor upon my family 😔
Yah. Multiple languages telegram community that would be great
Grand rising iluvinati
Hi guys, can i store ILV in any ethereum wallet?
thats what ive heard
Nice
Nice
Yes, it will be an erc 20 token
Yea
Are you sure you aren’t talking about the weight for the ILV / ETH pool. We don’t expect ILV to reach 0.8 ETH for quite a long time.
Morning
Hi guys, thank you for all informations you are providing through these channels 😄
Hi guys , How can I participate in the project ?
I second this question as a newcomer 😄
thanks
this is going to be good
Just participate in events as they come up and check out the balancer pool in the medium post in #🔗〕helpful-links
o.O
i dont woud sell mine 😄
when i had one xD
My last hope is to getting an Mamoth NFT 😄 i name it then FANTI 😄
not confirmed
Sup all
@candid smelt Hey man! Happy Saturday
Thanks mate
hello
Everyone enjoy the weekend! sun is shining here, but cold.
Hi. About the partnering discords. To take part in the upcoming airdrops we should join already partnered discords or will there be new partners announced we shall join and from those you'll be taking snapshots?
There’s no upcoming air drops
Just the public sale on 3/30
Then earning IlV through staking and in-game rewards
Good evening everyone
there are nft drops coming @thorny magnet you need to already be in the partner discord when it's announced to be eligible (some might deviate from this but it's the general rule)
saying hello after lurking for a bit. discovered illuvium community via last squizz competition and had fun participating!
can’t wait to see what unfolds for illuvium over the coming months

Hello what was the presale price?
What are the partner discords?
Go to #🔗〕helpful-links channel and read tokenomics article
Hey Tristan-- there's a bunch of them! If you read through the Illuvium Medium articles, you may catch on to them. Then hints about upcoming NFT promo partnerships are also dropped in discord by Aaron and Kieran. Being active in our community here is the best way to be "in the know" 😄
Hey Youssef— no whitelist! On the 30th, we start with the public sale on Balancer Exchange
😭
balancer is where we buy ILV no Uniswap?
Yep, Balancer starting on the 30th 😎
my pre-ILV will turn into ILV?
Thanks, will check out medium
Will the gas fees be killer for shrimp's on balancer?
will you play as an illuvial in this game or a person that owns illuvials like pokemon?
Yes when the audit is done
Second one
Will we have to subscribe to a whitelist form btw?
@modest pelican that squizz painting was pretty cool
Hehe yeahhhh— I mean they’re killer for all, really! And it’ll depend on how many times you plan to buy. Some people may Dollar Cost Average... so they buy multiple times across multiple days. I’m probably one of the “shrimps” and the gas fees would wreck me if I did that since you pay gas fees on every transaction. If you only plan to make one purchase, you might be better off?
Still a bit new to me too!
Whats the chances we can get Illuvium category channels with follow update feature enabled? I'd love to add them to my other servers
No whitelist— once the sale is live, it’s open to the public and everyone can begin buying
thank you! after seeing how great the other artists entries were I knew I found something special
Hey all
I sure do love these character leaks!
We definitely put in some effort
They are truly amazing characters and I feel like sharing some of the art is amazing for connecting with fans. Hi and happy to be here 😛
How much are gas fees do you think mate?
.01 eth is my gusses
glad to see yah here goldy
🤣 👋 awesome
how would i register
where can we buy tokens?
not out yet
balancer on 30th pikaa
presale over?
presale yet to come
be a member of illluvium and the next partnership pika
next partneship dont know but they are drpping a lot of hints here so stay tuned
thought it was chainlink
yeah cahinlink it is pika pika
Is the starting price for Balancer sale known yet?
not known yet pikaa.. they will anounce soon b4 the 30th
Thabks
Goes on sale Wednesday... should be an announcement before then... just keep watching and checking.
👍
I heard there's a party in here too. Whats happening yall?
https://tenor.com/view/claire-dancing-baby-sunglasses-toddler-gif-11410651
Hehe pika .. hi
All together report spam and tomorrow he is no more
Bastards exist enywhere, it is against law to shoot him , so do what we can and report :)
Just reported his ass
Reported
There really does seem to be more an more mean people in the world.
I think people are mean by default, but the number of good people is increasing imo
He literally said 1.25 ILV = $25 LMAO
haha this is what got me
airdrops are cool but the number scams based off of them is growing fast
Ah that’s amazing
yo theres currently a voting happening on the announcement tab
Pretty sure that’s over
Haha oohhhh.. dang.
atleast you guys wanted more mint
Hi, where can I join public sale?
30 Mar on balancer.
no need to join anything just buy when it goes public
Illuvium I was thinking about u..........
Guys how do I get ILV ? pls
Read 2 messages up 🙂
what time pls?
Reported. Hate scammers, really get under my skin
So how does one invest in illuvium?
I have no idea what exactly you guys are trying to do but I want to be part of it
I got the SNX airdrop but is there something else I can do?
Wait until 30th March then buy from Balancer.exchange
What will the token do? Is there an article with more info on this?
Just saw announcements
When we were kids we used to compete with each other a lot. We're just continuing that.
Are you serious bro 😂😂. If it is so then gas will be more than your preILV.
I see it this way
uni airdrop = 400 uni
Uni price = 32 $
ILV airdrop = 5 preILV
i.e 80 times less than uni.
So price is 32 x 80 = 2560 $
But at launch uni price was near 3$
So 3x 80 = $240
IlV price = $ 240 - $2560 .
Nothing wrong with a little competitive
Wtf 😂😂 report this asap
Dude, this is not how things work. At 240 per ILV, the Illuvium market cap will be 2.4B(max supply) 240M(initial circulating supply). At 2560 it will be 25.6B market cap. For comparison, UNI market cap right now is 16B and Uniswap is being used by almost every crypto out there. Illuvium on the other hand will be used by gamers. I'll put the initial price of ILV at $5-$10 at most.
Where did you got this number 240 million. Total supply of ILV is 10 million.
Aaron once mentioned they tried testing with $420 as initial price. I may be wrong.
Market cap. That's price multiple by supply. $240 x 10M supply
I'm talking about initial price out of IDO. $5-$10 dollar is what I think the investors will be targeting. It will definitely starts at a higher price when BLBP starts but no investor will want a high starting price.
$5-10 is low
With 1M only on IDO, imagine how much 1 person can buy with 1 ETH
10-20 whales can buy them all if it is only 5-10/ILV
People want to buy not for the sole reason they want to buy, people want to buy to invest
High starting price equals less room for growth. Less room for growth means bad investment
I see you are a low baller
Do you even realize that a project even without a roadmap hits 10M marketcap in BSC.
And for Something like Illuvium 240M is not even a deal.
That $5-10 wont happen I guarantee
Even Kieran said someone messaging him privately to buy $20 per ILV
They raised 5Million for 1.5million of ILV in the seed sale. Do the math
Most of the project goes 50x to 100x from the price of seed sale.
That makes it an easy $150 - $300
Well, you might be right. I don't want to argue anymore.
so 5preILV = 1 ILV ?
1:1
someone streamign the fight in discord 👀
What fight?
1 ilv = 1 eth. My prediction.. :)
1 preILV = 1 ILV = 1 ETH ? 
Just prediction.
I believe you
HA HA HA . I hope....
same but there isn't a ver good chance of that I don't thing
would be super nice though wouldn't it
Accumulate ilv when initial price as much as i can . ALL in .... HA HA HA
Sup people
Where can I buy ILV
Hi there! @reef nexus You can start by reading the medium articles in #🔗〕helpful-links and you will find a ton of useful information on the project. The short answer is Balancer on the 30th of March.
I don't have a crystal ball so I can't tell you what the price will be at the end of the sale. What I can tell you is that there is literally zero chance it will end up that low. There are some internal brotherly competitive things that simply make it impossible.
But by all means, if your risk profile is waiting until it gets down to $10 in the public sale, you might just end up saving yourself some GAS.
Morning all
I can also say that after the sale it isn't going to be $2560. That's really really high.
Haha, my range is currently $1-15... Still doing research though
I may need to revaluate, either way I am buying with a set amount of eth, so I will get as much ILV as I can
So now after Aaron's comment, I am either getting 2000ILV or less than 1, should be interesting
$2650 is the max i said. Like after a year when everything goes mainstream.
Ah, I thought we were talking about by the end of the sale.
😅 i am quite happy with $240
Hopefully by end of sale we are all partying, or at least some of us have some pretty new NFTs that we can't wait to unwrap for the game
Hopefully NFTs keep their value after removing from the package
you can use these NFTs in game?
No.
Promotional NFTs are not usable in game
They might have hidden utility but who knows
One can hope :)
There won't be an NFTs that give you an advantage in the game.
And there goes hope, buying anyways :)
@plain delta @lofty knoll ty both
you're welcome
If you could gain an advantage from the sale we feel that wouldn't be great for the people that might not be able to spend as much. And when I say 'we', I mean @inner topaz who isn't as heartless as me.
Thank. you Kieran lol
Ohhh that's awesome.. keeping it fair for everyone. nice nice.
Hi Everyone, I am new to the world of Illuvium. Extremely excited about the roadmap! Looking forward to growing it with everyone. What is the best way to position myself for the release? Will there be a pre release signup etc?
Guys, need a quick clarification please.. Illuvium raised 5m usd from seed funding of 1.5m tokens. So technically, seed investors got in at an average of 3.33 per ILV right?
I'm stupid so ignore everything I say. Not sure on sign up @hollow drum but I havn'tt heard anything yet
Your math is right @blissful hinge, I think I don' feel like checking, bu not sure how it worked
What's everyone's plan with ILV? Personally planning on buying in and then swapping some for sILV to buy Shards to get critters. Anyone remember if there were price points given for shards? I thought it was mentioned before.
yup same here. Going to be diogn a lot in the game so I'll prob be swapping often
might do the same
Depending on what's the initial price point and what are the promos, but it's likely gonna be my biggest investment in crypto so far
I'm a bit hesitant to pay more than 10x of what early investors paid though.. Need more shillings from you guys
its either claim all or restake all, right? No 50/50's?
i make most of my crypto decisions after drinknig so you dont awnt me to shill
and no sure scuffle
lol, and ok
while I agree it sucks to have to pay more I think this is not the best mindset to have when coming at this. Actually crypto in general maybe. For me it's about where you think this thing can go, not really where it's been. Sure it sucks to pay 60K for 1BTC when others paid 100$ back in the day, but does that stop me from supporting it?
best time to go all in, Makers knows best.
It's per batch.
I's the reason Ive used all my crypto holdings on longs now so I can' do any quick trades 😄
so if I bought $1k/$1k I could cash out $1k?
I thought you were talking about sILV vs ILV
Yeah, so if I bought say $2k, I would have to split that up if I wanted to convert a portion to sILV?
but if I paid all in one chunck, it's all or nothing?
Is sILV what we need for in game purchases?
Yes, or ETH
the synthetic version of ILV im assuming.
@brisk pagoda I agree. I'm buying eiher way
Thanks
not sure if there's going to be credit card purchases ?
Yeah, that's a must imo
No. When you buy it, it just sits there as ILV. Then you need to stake it. You have two options. Stake in the ILV pool or in the ILV/ETH pool. Either way you start earning yield. That yield, when claimed, must be claimed as either ILV or sILV. But you can claim it as ILV one time, and then sILV the next time
Best tokenomics i have ever seen. Easy decision
So maybe in one month you earn 5 ILV. And in the next you earn 5 ILV, just take it as sILV and you've basically gone 50 / 50
Does that maks sense.
I love how this server is on Aus/NZ time
ETH will be the main way to purchase. sILV is just an extra option for stakers who don't want their yield locked.
For this next offering will there be a minimum capital amount?
No.
Sweet!
Yes, now it does! thank you for the explanation
Ya, thanks for the help Aaron
how soon after this sale on the 30th will in game items be availailable for purchase?
On launch day.
cool
On launch day the number of owned Illuvials will be 0.
at best people will have some rare skins, but they won't be items that have utility. Just some value because they are cool and rare.
which is undecided yet I think right? So shards you need to buy to get the critters, and those will be in a price range from something like $60-$100 or so? I better stop asking these ?s when it's probably all in the medium articles, haha, sorry
so the skins are the items we get as bonuses for buying on the 30th
This is helpful lol
Shard price has not been decided yet.
Will there be in game items with limited supply?
What engine are you using o build the game? Unity?
Um... almost everything?
Nice 😆
lol
I guess I'll allocate 50% on ILV and 50% on in game items then
Thank you @plain delta
One of our major delays was transitioning from Unity to Unreal Engine.
Can you stake in game assets?
I thought it's gonna be like Lost Relic, some items with unlimited supplies and some capped
Nothing planned around that.
Cool cool just curious
i see
Ours is a hybrid system. Iluvials will be on a bonding curve. Meaning they will get harder to catch over time.
And then at some point in the future, you won't be able to catch them anymore. That's when the amount will become fixed.
Yeah but we aren't planning on it being something where late comers find it orders of magnitude harder.
i assume that's because of the high quality graphics if I'm guessing from leaks? if so then delays to switch to unreal are worth ti
it*
Is the rate the same in both pools Aaron? If there is a difference, what determines this?
Unity is easy and fun but unreal is leagues ahead on several things
wow, that's great info
pretty cool way to do it
@fierce vine are there system req. posted anywhere?
Thanks so much for all the great info everyone!!
@karmic lichen not that I know of. If you can play games that are out I bet you'll be able to play it
hmm
hard to get
Are there any early gameplay videos availible or not yet?
Damn son, that will be a sick set up
crazy setup
Coming soon
Ye trying t oget 3070 for myself and my fiance
or 3080
if cthulu is willing
if not he can find his own sacrifices
Sweet! Thank you
What is the structure for gas fees?
Thats the real game changer
True free economy
It's many things.
Do you think these types of breakthroughs will make up and coming competing networks like Flow unnecessary and unable to compete?
Well I guess there is going to be some fees because otherwise the vault would remain empty but you get the point
What is Flow? Layer 2 solution for eth?
No, it is independent from ETH. Connected to Dapper Labs
they made crypto kitties and Top Shot
Different. Medium.
Ok well anything on layer 1 is not going to compete
Not bringing the same amount of player i'd say
Interesting, so focus on Layer 2 built projects on ETH?
I focus on Illuvium
why?
Personaly
You are talking about individual illuvial having bonding curve, right? Not illuvials as a whole, right?
All of them I think
Because there is gonna be multiple generations like pokemon
Once Gen1 is gone you can only get it by buying it from a player
Apologies for the stupid question, but what are the monsters/creatures called?
Illuvials
lol Ok thanks
Sounds good
Individually. If something is popular it's going to be harder.
I never said there won't be more Illuvials to find.
Maybe at some point we stop, and just have a line of limited plushies with rfid codes built in?
body pillows
LMAO
I ban anyone that mentions a Waifu Illuvial.
This is on the edge.
crap
What I mean for individual is for example, if a lot of people catch squizz then the number of squizz in the wild will be less but that won't affect the number of other illuvials. When I say as a whole I mean the more illuvial get caught the less illuvial will be in the wild regardless of what kind of illuvial it is.
Ok yea then as Aaron said in that case
So individual
Adjusted after every capture in real time
Is the airdrop still going on? Sorry I didn't see it the announcement
Waiting of further announcement
We are good then hahaha
Lol that's like years ago
This is correct. Individual bonding curves for each. Squizz might just be one of those that gets 'orders of magnitude' harder to catch.
When you fuse squizz (burn them) will the number of squizz go back in to the wild?
I don't remember do you adjust encounter rate or catch rate? Both? When do you decide to lock the total numbers?
No, might affect the rates tho. Aaron would know.
I got scared there for a moment when you say you cannot catch them anymore. I can't imagine a world without illuvials in the wild.
Sorry that's what I was saying. That since it takes 3 to fuse maybe 1 goes back into the wild for others to get. So that there is still a decrease in the overall illuvials, but gives others the opportunity to catch
Nope.
Both. As foe the second question I can’t say.
Ok thanks
No but the residue class for each line is not congruent to 0 mod 3 at lockdown. This way they can’t be fused out of existence.
But it is possible for someone to own the only Squizz.
Don't make squizz lonely. Protect the squizz species.
Squizz one shot everything
Gotcha. The total number of any illuvium isn't set at the beginning, just the encounter and catch rates. And as people catch and or fuse them, the encounter and catch rates change
There can be only one
And at some point you the team will decided to close the total number, maybe when moving from series 1 to series 2
Or I hope I'm understanding it correctly
You do
How is everyone doing today?
What do I need to do to become involved in this upcoming game? How can I invest or get ILV? I saw this posted in Reddit and came to check it out.
The balancer sale is 30th of this month
On March 30th ILV will be put on sale on balancer. Game is supposed to come out in Q3 I think. They are also doing airdrops of NFTs occasionally in this discord
Sorry what is Balancer? I just got back into the crypto space since 2014 so I have so much catching up to do
Since 2014!!! Sure hope you held onto your btc bags.
We won't decide. You will.
Nope 😦 I sold everything I had years ago. My Coinbase account still has my 1.5 BTC sale for $380. Makes me ill to look at 🙂
Oh well. Hope you make it all up going forward.
Yep starting fresh
So I Balancer an exchange or something I should sign up for so I can get in on the sale
Definitely will
Sorry, just got back about a month ago. Heard of Uniswap but not sure what it is either. So when they have the ILV sale on Balancer, how do I interact with Balancer? Through an exchange, website etc?
Can you connect Balancer with Metamask? Just like Uni? Sorry I’m on my phone now so I can’t check the link.
If so... are the gas fees as scandalous as on Uniswap?
Gas fees are almost the same on all DEXs i g
Alright, so I can use the eth gasstation
Sigh... sometimes in crypto I feel all gains are negated by gas 😭😭😭
you apparently receive a little BAL if you swap with whitelisted tokens
if, yes, else, hmm
With the NFT related coins I feel comfortable paying high gas. It literally offset my gas fees within 15 minutes. Depending on the price of ILV I am planning to get a good amount, close my eyes and set to high gas
So I would need like ETH in a wallet to buy the ILV through balancer?
Then pray to CryptoDaddy Elon it gets through. Illuvium is a very promising project and it is amazing that as a gamer I can finally contribute to it
Will there be an ILV wallet I will need to store it then once bought?
Whi guys do I only need to be part of this discord to be eligeble for the airdrop?
I have wasted so much time in WoW I would rather game on something with potential 🙂
And nothing to show for it other then some sexy armphotos you got after a boring night in goldshire
Whats your take on Jiho’s tweet about illuvium?
Thanks!
Yes you need enough eth to buy ILV and account for the gas fees, also ILV doesn't have its own wallet its a token on eth so you can store it on any erc20 eth wallet like metamask
Morning guys!
Thank you! I currently mine ETH on a couple GPUs and send them to my Metamask wallet
Has the initial price of ILV been announced?
not yet
Really! Maybe he or she needs money, it's still early, at least wait until the game comes out! He and she are holding the diamond in hand 😆
Mmmm coffee sounds so good but I need to go to bed 🙂
Jiho apparently is a Axie player, can't find his tweet about Illuvium atm
I don't think people should judge those that sell the NFTs. If you need the cash, sell it. IMHO.
what are you talking about Jihoz?
👀
never sell ... when the price is high 😆
Night all thank you for letting me join this new adventure!
He's the growth lead of Axie. Said that we were giving him scam vibes and questioned what we were building during the bear. For me it's a compliment.
Holy...
Hmm, did he delete it? I can't find it
I want to see what people comment on that, it's bullshit
big compliment, somebody is threatened, haha.
It's a tough one, because the level of art we are going for requires a significantly larger investment than Axie. I could have personally funded a game with the art level of Axie, and not done any token sale. Rogier probably could have completed the entire Axie art pipeline in a couple months by himself.
So in their case it may be true that you don't need investors. I think we have nearly 3x the number of contributors they do. It's just a different scale.
That doesn't mean our game will be better. He's right about that. People will have to judge for themselves. It could be that there are plenty of people that simply like Axie better. I don't like turned based games, so I wouldn't be in that group but many would be.
And Axies certainly are cute, in a lo-fi cartoony sort of way.I'm sure there are plenty of young kids that really like it.
Will the game be playable in Q3 and can illuvials be acquired thru gameplay?
Btw it's almost impossible for a casual player to start playing Axies now. You need to buy 3 creatures and they cost 100-200$ each. I hope Illuvium entry doesn't get derailed like that after the initial sale.
I tried really hard to like Axie but just absolutely could not get into it. monetarily though I wish I had gone all in early, lol.
Jihoz gave me a free Axie when I first got in which was nice.
We aren't going to make you input $600 to get started. There will be stuff you can capture for free, and play with. Enough that you can start to learn about synergies and classes and fusion. They won't be strong, but they will be enough for you to make a good call on if you like our game.
One of the major reasons we started was because there were solutions coming that could make things GAS free. I hate GAS with a passion. There is some GAS involved in staking with us, but playing the game won't cost you a dime if you don't want it to.
Scam vibes hehe
Calling people a scam for not having the game live, while charging people $600 just to see if they might like your own game seems a little on the nose.
I never trust an unreleased game that makes yuo spend more than $20 to start
But like I've said many times. I like Axie. It's a clever idea. They have absolutely maxed out the revenue / effort function beautifully.
That's low though. You can pre-order mainstream games and pay much more.
I refuse to preorder lol
and on main stream games I dont buy new
I wait for tohers to play and watch youtube/reviews
It's a fair call. I'm on the other end of the scale. The number of games in my steam library that I've not ever played is disturbingly high.
Preorder uncompleted games launching it the worst idea now x)
Steam sale games dont count lol.
Warcraft 3 Refunded was the perfect example
Same but almost all from bundles
I'll mail crap to HQ
All I know is that every token holder (apart from the Airdrop and Balancer) is effectively locked for 18 months. If we're scammers then we are legit the dumbest scammers in existence. Also our brother is an investor. He'd order a hit on us.
what was the price of ILV in the private sale?
ah okay
but would be interesting to know how much of a premium that is to the private sale
Guys why nobody ever mentioned to me the desktop one and 2 function
i have been living onder a rock or what
i can have on the screens in the office all work related stuff
and then on the tab desktop 2 i can have discord and games etc
and then when i tab switch to desktop one
Lol you were on your phone all this time?
no
on the laptop
that is the worse
what the actual fuck
my ignorant life got so much better now
this means nonstop gaming in the office
😆
Hi guys how to get to read more on this game and how to take part in the air drops?
Thank you so much
ILV TOTAL SUPPLY?
10 million
lol
hi, when is the balancer sale?
30th
Haha naawwwww..... BABY MAMMOTH.
Took 5 months but we finally ticked this box. 😋
Hello
What the next public sale will contain? Who is eligible to buy something and what are the prices?
Thanks in advance!
The sale will contain ILV. Everyone is eligible. The price starts at <redacted> and fluctuates as people buy, or don’t buy.
I’m not sure what date the preILV will convert.
You need ETH for the ILV plus a little extra for the fees.
When you signed up for a multi-year artistic and technological project, did you imagine that answering the same question every 15 minutes would have taken up so much of the time?
Lol for real tho
Available from the 30th.. an balancer... metamask wallet sign in thingy... I do believe.
Ok, thanks
Guys, you clearly have no idea about the space, Axie have much better understanding of tech, and shitting over them like that is just pathetic
Please do copy of Axie in 4 weeks
with same user base and people being passionate about that
"God fucking speed"
Eh, it's ok.
@nova nacelle .. thank you for your input... however there is room in the world for both... the hostility is unnecessary tho.. cheers.
Well, it started with shitting over Axie as game
this as another example
and this is just Tweet from today:
just do research where biggest project on ETH is at
before posting
Mate.. this is unnecessary here... stop.
Could you explain where my comment 'shitted on Axie as a game'?
It is follow up to eg such comment - Rogier probably could have completed the entire Axie art pipeline in a couple months by himself.
That's a compliment.
yeah, right
Axie is worth a billion. On the back of really simplistic art.
art is not that it is, lol...
CryptoKitties the same.
Jesus
No, my point was that it is EFFECTIVE without requiring a lot of investment. It's a really smart strategy. Use procedural artwork so you get lots of combinations that people CLEARLY like, without needing to hire world class artists. It's a very good business model.
people like gamification of Axie, not only it's art
lol, someone seems a bit hurt. Are you okay @nova nacelle?
But people ALSO like its art. So my comment was 100% a compliment.
Just waiting on your game 😉
we can asses from there
for now you have nothing but promises
You can request to be in the beta. Just head to the beta request channel
Never will
It's all good. I respect Axie a lot. I think it is a really clever business model.
Please cool it with the hostility.. no one else is being aggressive.
Axies made sense a year ago when ETH was 100$, so I could make my first team with 30-50$. Did Axies increase their gameplay value or artwork x20 in the last year?
passive aggressive is also thing
So is healthy competition.. but you dont seem to like that.
Anyway, god speed with such attitude. Release something, then we can compare
Just please calm the aggression.. it might lead to you being banned.
No I was couple months after they started
I don't know. Calling another game a scam seems like a bit of a low blow. It was quite amusing. We just think the game is a little lacklustre that's all.
ok for social media standards I think we're well into civilized territory
I'm not going to ban someone for disliking our game. It's all good.
Yeah no chance, we'll be friends by the end of the year @nova nacelle
I just ment if he kept being aggressive and hostile..

Never was my goal 
You are so dumb lol
It's totally normal to lash out when feeling threatened, so whatever, it will pass
uh-oh, it's a raid

Ooft, now we've got the Axie Chads in here. Look out
Looks like illuvium want to be treated in the same way

I'm having trouble understanding why people think two games cant or shouldn't exist...
Well it's more like your way of phrasing things is a little off putting.
Sure you guys have a great concept, and by all means I do wish you guys to succeed
But bashing other games is a low blow. Just focus on building instead
Such shut art guys you have
Yes, you have. Usually it is good, not sure how it looks like that
Like yay... more fun for players..
Please, enable building on Illuvium ASAP, I'll build some app on that, where Axies are bashing Illuvials
Please... just stop this
. It is unnecessary... cheers.
That we can agree with
You haven’t released any. And now talking about to better then anyone other lol
Only collected funds
@inner topaz should get fired tbh, not a good look using the r word all the time
and cuck lol
what kind of company is this?
lol the axie troll fanboy squad has arrived
🤣
I'm sure their partners would be happy to know about this
have fun playing with some 2D animations for 9 year old kids
Lol check when I joined I was here all time
omg next nft collab must be axie lol
We're a DAO.
Your dao suck
I'll reach out


wtf now, I'm triggered. Real games have been in concept and then dev and then beta for years and years. You're hyped into a market where projects release a quick CCG and just watch as NFT flippers make it famous for $$. Don't try to convince us it's how games are made.
They certainly could. Maybe you should write up a proposal
I'm not saying Axies is a CCG but most of the activity I see on blockchain wouldn't fetch 5$ in my childhood CD gamestore

This is exactly why I wish god speed for building game "Like Axie" in 4 weeks
you think Axie is only flipping?
there are ppl who actually are utilizing their NFTs
show me AAA game where I can do it in permisionless way
Anyway, I respect what Axie have done, obviously I do. One of the first games in this space to hit a 1b market cap is no small feat, in fact it's insanely good. All power to them and the community, I personally just didn't enjoy playing the game. That's it. If someone doesn't like our game I'm not going to call theirs a scam. But whatever, this is more amusing than anything.
Hope we will one day meet in Metaverse
Not liking something is totally ok, but you're calling them out in such a way that it doesn't make you look good at all, a little respect goes a long way
The co-founder using derogatory terms so lightly really should make everyone question the future of the game. Are they also ok with saying the n word? How deep does the rabbithole go?
Maybe we are crazy and our game is going to be dog shit. Who knows? only time will tell
Well i dont wish that to you lol, if anything you guys have potetial
but being humble is a great trait to have
this is true. Axie is really popular here int he philippines
You're right
I was actually interested in what you guys build but who can stand behind a project like this?
only awful people
no for real
are you defending someone who uses the r word all the time?
well everyone in here seems okay with it, it seems
Hes australian. So yes, yes anyway, but extra yes for that
I miss 30 minutes ago when we were reading questions about balancer
we are witnessing history right here right now
live action fud
who spilled first blood? why are axie ppl so pressed?
You're right, I shouldn't use that word. That whole discussion that we're referring to was unnecessary and I apologise to the Axie community for offending you. Axie increasing in value is good for the entire NFT ecosystem and I shouldn't have been shit talking them.
Axie going up or down is clearly not the point but hey....
Wish you the best man
Thanks, you too
Dude... I am from Australia and we say worse than that to our best mates.. if you have a problem with the way someone speaks... ignore them.. dont be a high an mighty dick about it.. I mean dang... how much hate do you have?.
There... is... an r word?
rape?
Rednecks
what
bruh
I'm still confused. I was complimenting Axie on how big they are for the COST of art. The quality of art is subjective and there are clearly lots of people that like it. Heaps of people like cartoony stuff. And it is really cheap to produce. That's brilliant.
I apologise.. if I offended any hillybillys.. Haha wait.. I'm from the country.
no they are the next collab
Waiting for it
they came for nfts

kek
Nicy
Um yep yep.. aussie thru an thru brother... words dont have power unless you let them man... take a chill pill and play some games.
Haha nahh.. imma have a drink and play some shooting game..
Which one...
It dosnt matter... coz lots of games can exist.
Just chill out.
cool, gl maintaining ownership of your assets and generating some cash inflow with that
oh, here's the missunderstanding. I want to play a game, I have a job.
I consider any cash inflow from any game a bonus.. I play games for enjoyment... but cheers.
LOL Axie fangay
you cannot compare 2d art to 3d art
I'm confused how you guys view axie as low quality art
🤦
Axie looks like it was made in 90s
just look at your avatar. Enough said no
They are different
.. it's like arguing which is better.. the sun.. it the moon..
Mmm I can smell the success of Illuvium through haters
Axie is low quality art to me but hey what do I know
I really like the monster designs of Illuvium and the quality of the models, but bashing axie art just because it's 2d and in a simple style is not ok
Chill. I’m talking to one of the founders of Axie now. I have apologised, he has accepted that. We can both co-exist together. Until someone like Riot comes in, then we’re both screwed 😂
to be fair some ppl pay for that kinda stuff. look at cryptopunks
Granted.. I may have slightly poked and prodded and escalated things.. and for my part in this .. I apologise
Or rather it’s simple art
Just help them build their on-chain onboarding tech, get %, profit 
Or beat me to it :P
Riot could be so big if they tokenised skins, having some limited editions skins etc, would be super cool actually
I need a vr nft game
I’ll leave that to you, we’ve got enough on our plate 😜
Cant we all just get along... hahaha.. my bad for stiring the pot tonigjt.. imma have a smoke and a drink.
Is all of Axie community this hostile and childish? What is happening. Take your hate elsewhere.
Make illuvium vr compatible I played Pokémon vr illuvium would be better
it was unreal kinda cant believe this just happened
If you guys hang around you’ll go into the running to win a promo nft, just saying 😅
I bought first Batman nft dc made
Literally talking shit on Illuvium's discord and expecting to get a warm welcome
Have you guys heard of app called Veve
He came out of the blue shilling his game
Still waiting for that day to come i will be the owner of an NFT fomr Illuvium
Well surely in the 100 drop right??
100
damn
yesterday i entered another raffle for a pair of Yeezy and ffs i again won
2/2
get something that i want
nope
hahaha
yes but you only win that you can buy them
Yeezy!
only limited
Adidas Yeezy Boost 700 V2 (Cream/Cream)
1200 AED
And last time the Jordan Air Retro 1 University Blue
but i only enter for my friend
He got 10 pairs of the Yeezy yesterday
he is hodling to make his own Sneaker store with limited editions
Anyways
back to the NFT
Only 200 pairs available in Dubai
so he keeps them
and sells them in 3 years
flipping you only make double
having a new pair in box 3 years after it came out
lol, when general quickly turns to degen shoe chat
I don't view it as low quality. I view it as low cost. My reasoning behind that is because the cost is low. And I think that is a very clever thing. Any time you can get someone to spend a lot on something you have spent little on, you've done something right. Clearly people like Axie art. Personally, I've never been a fan of that style or 8 bit for that matter. But I can respect it for what it is.
Still waiting for that day to come too.
@inner topaz I would just like to apologise again for semi losing my cool a bit.. Haha some people just end up pushing buttons.. my bad.
Realized too late it was in general and not Degen^^
Shoe illuvials coming
Some will need a lot more shoes than others.
illuvials merch... Cheer.
I’m kinda hype for my Batman nft
Dc made only 7500 of them
The Harley Quinn sold out it was 80 buks now I hear it’s going for 1000
We in a bubble lol
No worries!
where is this project at currently? I see they raised an initial $5M but, are there any NFT pre sales going on yet or planned? or opportunities to invest in the DAO?
Batman NFT! I'm listening...
dc released nfts ? do you have a source?
so will the IDO be on Balancer, Uniswap, or both?
Balancer, 30th March, have ETH on Metamask, no price confirmed yet.
I'm going to copy this and put it on a hotkey, seems to be needed a lot
so there will ljust be a $ILV that shows up on the exchange, and we use Metamask to swap ETH for ILV?
and thank you for answering my question, this looks like a good project and I love auto battlers, played a lot of TFT
Yes
People here like to help, also check out the ask-us-anything discussion, lots of good questions/answers in there and a good spot to ask. The general discussion appears to be for Axie arguments, degen shoes, and batman NFTs 😂
nice AAvegotchi!
and morning everyone
You can buy Batman on Veve app
Are there any more details as to how Illuvium team will track who buys into the IDO on Balancer...and further, where the random NFTs will be stored when they are randomly given out to ILV holders?
willl the NFTs be stored in your Balancer wallet?
Veve has the license to many big properties and dc has dropped a line of nft on it. Check Veve in App Store on your phone
Shill alert
it looks like a copied line
I like Batman art and nft what’s a shill
It’s not
It’s official dc a apology would be nice of you shill caller @junior belfry https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/darwyn-cookes-widow-asks-dc-not-to-use-her-husbands-work-in-batman-nft-crypto-art/ar-BB1exgNv
Darwyn Cooke's widow Marsha is taking a stand against her late husband's art being used for NFT cryptocurrency
If you're hyping the tokens you own it's still shilling
I’m not hyping token
I’m hype for the Batman nft
To me it’s like buying detective comics number one
It’s his first official print in premium digital form
Hello everyone
@junior belfry you what they say when you assume, I own over 5000 comics and have been drawing for 30yrs it’s a love affair not shilling
怎么打钱?怎么冲? take my money please!
I need the Harley Quinn’s I’ll buy them off anyone who gets one
I just did didn’t notice a place for this stuff
What’s the degen mean
Ohh ok thx
I’m wondering how taxes work with all this
I hate the irs 😂
margin trading 😓 , leveraging getting liquidated 🙂
only if you turn it into fiat i guess?
but different nations have different rules
I hear just trading bitcoin for eth is a taxable event
@sage falcon hire an accountant 🙂
this, i think you can afford one after u sell that nft for 1mil @sage falcon
100 nfts being airdropped to randomly selected addresses participating in the balancer sale iirc
@thick turret
I just join the discord thanks for all the info and fast replis ;D nice team
i think so
Replies*
Yes it’s all in the link she sent
Haha.. someone say 420 illuvium....
@lofty fox The 420 alluvium could have the powers of sleep and relaxation slowing the opponents movements
Or I could return the a illuvium to a happier state skip a turn
Hehehe.. just throwing this one out there... they are all based on aminals an whatnot yeah... so 420 illuvium lil guy has to based on a sloth an has the ability of slow.. and smoke screen.
Haha.
Happy Illuvium Sunday to everyone on this channel
Merrylluvium 😄
😆
Do this discord have a nft trading thread?
I know. I wish the founders were more friendly to the Axie community. That's why I shared my opinion.
so childish to come here and share your opinion tho when no1 asked
I am a child.
Sonic boom ehhhhhh
I like Axie. It’s not a genre of game that I am drawn to but I respect what they built.
16 days to go
Where is @median magnet and @umbral vine and @south hatch
Jeremy has been very busy, not sure the others
Ok
Maybe this infighting was not really necessary. I really appreciate the fact that you acknowledge someone's hard work.
I would love to see this team to compete with hardwork too and not just words.
We have 40 people that are probably working 12 hour days.
this is still shady. you're claiming illuvium is just words. can we get over it?
I really want to find the silver lining. I just can't see it. The conversation is, he bad, she bad.
Moooorning y’all. Happy Sunday— looks like I have a lot to catch up on from the past 16 hours or so!
Mornin
I haven’t said anything bad about Axie. But you literally just said we are “just words”. 🤷 I mean I don’t mind if people aren’t fans of ours. Everyone gets to like what they like.
I don't know much about business or marketing. I'm still a child. But things like these, I mean it drives away people like me. I just happened to be outspoken that's all.
Lol, how is being in development drive people away?
Please read the whole thing again. I didn't try to be toxic.
I'm just a simple gamer , I play games that entertains me. Chill
sup bro
You said we don’t compete with hard work “just words”. I mean I don’t mind if that’s your opinion. My only comment was to say our team works their asses off.
What happened
Any project before release will be 'just words' take a look at the stuff you can see such as art and demos
Who said that? Did you even read the whole thing?
I cannot here what you are saying lol
This tbh
Yes, and what's wrong with that statement? I cannot expect hardwork?
Im busy with work., I just watched the teaser at 4k orgasmic. bruh.
They are working hard 😂
To which Aaron responded about their hard work my guy... it's right there in the Jedi sacred texts
@subtle osprey, please just take the negs back to the axie discord
We all about support in here 🍺
I never said that. If you think that's the case maybe you are the one who thinks such.
Not negging about how much or little progress has been made
Hmmm...
Vaas is allowed to be here. You don’t have to support us to be here. That would be ridiculous.
Yeah thats fair enough, I'm just not a fan of people trying to rile people up for the sake of it
Which is what it seems like
You don't have to, take the time to think about what we're telling you though man. The game isn't released and Axie is. Hence you can play their game. At one point Axie was in the same position Illuvium is right now.
That doesn't mean the team isn't working hard, check the art and demo.
"outspoken" does not have to be synonyms with "inconvenient"

Might wanna limit your .02 ETH to your 2 gwei, could be throwing away a fortune a few years from now 😜
.02 is worth a lot of money
Guess it depends on your value haha
You could save a moon cat with 0.02
If you got 200ETH 0.02 isnt much 😅
Could have *
It's also entirely possible they're just a troll/antagonizer, we get this occasionally in the SNX discord
Might start a tv add with that
"Save a moon cat today for at little as 0.02ETH..."
0.02 ETH = 0.02 ILV confirmed
o.O
When is the ILV sale again March 30th?
Need to start saving some side ETH to convert 😋
This game has Mars potential forget the moon 🚀, I deffo wanna be here for the ride
Not just as an investment might I add its got potential to be a great game in its own right
Im a plankton but willing to go all in on 30th
hahah
I just made it back to real time as well... what an interesting night we missed, man!
Morning JAA
How can a game be better or worse when it's not even released? 😂
Hey hey! I'm around just crazy the past few weeks. Getting into more presales and IDOs lately!
I always miss out on presales on solid projects. My body is ready for this one. Its going to be huge imo
Good morning
I'm sure Axie has potential if they expand their franchise but as it is now, I can download any gacha game off of the app store for FREE and have the same experience.
Are axis deflationary?
can we just ban toxic people or sth, this is depressing
We are not entrusted with Thor's hammer sadly @red crater
I respect it if you buy Axies as an investment strategy but it's a far cry from being a AAA title.
Oh boy here we go again
Since Axis are not deflationary, they are not superior in every way. You see? Easily debunked FUD.. bring more tbh, more ILV for me lol.
These level of quality games are generally FREE TO PLAY
Hahahah
lol else?
Oh no, what ya going to do there sizzle?
A positive vibe Beefing is good for the industry be it music or any industry so far it’s going to promote both industries. Being competitive is great should not generate bad energy. Thanks 🙂
Troll account
We can agree to disagree. And that’s perfectly fine. That’s the beauty of the world we live in! We can think what we want to think
737727jsjajau77 nice handle. did u create it just to troll here?
Your community sounds salty af to be honest compared to here.. we have fun and help each other.
We don't want the negativity. Keep it for yourself please
Front seats
for a cutesy looking game its gamers sure are angry bunch
we dont own the devs. and they already apologized
what's Axie?
out of how many?
Go play in a running wood chipper mouth breather
20% up today, not bad
Theres one more seat on my side
just ignore him guys. Trolls feed on attention...
will there be a presale? or just a public sale?
Sure
Presale and seed are over. Next is the IDO 🙂
they weren't available to the public i think it was only institutions
Yes only private investors
ok i didn't miss one that one
Great stick around then! You will like Illuvium
salty af lmao 🤣
30th
do you think we will all have a chance to participate?
without paying 500$ on eth fess
30th
LOL cancer
Knowing Kieran, he already apologized and this shows a lot. It shows that he can put his pride aside and recognize the wrong. Very professional team and very knowledgeable also. I wouldn't bet against ILV.
it is good that you support a game and passionate about it. but we get it. lets move on.
Fees are going to be there but this is a fair way to launch a token! There is no first minute race. You buy when you want during the 7 days
Price goes down if no one buys
Price starts high
is there a working demo of the game? cant find anything
Ilv community was there when I was struggling.. each their own
yeah but if people are swarming to buy iillu price will skyrocket
if you want to avoid the high fees at the start you get a worse price
Hard to predict but the price should equalize during the duration.
is there a working demo of the game?
Ok. Seeing your guy trashing ILV/GU/IMX is unacceptable
They never said they were “anti-axie.” Quite the opposite really. They said great things about the Axie business model and how they like it. Axie is doing good things for people and it is being recognized.
I urge you to think more critically about what is being said... as well as the things you are saying, yourself. Because your comments are not shedding a positive light on Axie, in my opinion.
Sorry I missed your question between all those non important argument. No yet but it will come before the IDO 🙂
Dude at this point you've talked more in this discord than axies discord anyway, I know cuz I've been in both for months as someone who likes both.
@lofty knoll thanks for the reply.. but i wanted some idea as how the game will be ??may be some video about charecters or gameplay
For sure! Look at #🚰〕leaks there is a great recent video showing off the art and graphics! Welcome btw
is this bs still going, ffs
Looks like it
looks like axie is the greatest game ever but also super fragile that its gamers feel pressed over slightest criticism.
Itulog mo yan @undone elbow. Nang ttroll kapa dito nakakahiya
thanks..even i belong to axie community but this bashing of a new game without completely knowing the details seems very very childish so i urge the axie community to please stop this ignorant behaviour as it gives a bad impression. Afterall we all want different games with different ideas and creativity and all can co exist.
Some snowflakes had not seen armed combat and it shows.. being hurt by words
Truth!
All blockchain games can coexist easily. Different niches
very true
Big facts
Like there is a lot of people here playing Lost Relics while waiting for Illuvium and it is quite fun. That doesn't make me a Lost Relic extremist
Keep it english or go to whatever community language channel this is please.
And then there are people like myself, who are not playing any blockchain games and just holding out for Illuvium— but I still see the value in the other games and want them around, for sure!
Same here
Holding out for this and Chainmonsters, two very different styles but both interesting worlds
And I think both can exist
@hollow drum chainmonsters is a blockchain game?
Ya its another monster hunting game but its built on flow instead of ETH.
oh flow is great
Should be interesting
i always wanted some good rpg game but on blockchain
One day haha
If you build it they will come
Honestly there just needed to be more monster raising games. I loved them as a kid but I feel like the genre was dying down a lot over the years. Other than pokemon, Digimon was dwindling, monster rancher has basically stopped for NA. I didn't know what to do anymore. lol
It is like a pokemon reboot?
Facts, like I loved Digimon but I also loved Pokemon both coexisted for a while
Is there a market
It is its own world with new characters, in a vintage gameboy style. Ya there will be a market.
Thanks everybody for keeping it respectful btw. Appreciated
Facts, keep the peace
Its hard to ignore but I think in future we should just try and ignore the trolls, like someone said earlier(sorry can't remember who 😅) they feed off the attention
Yep
When the crossover from being objective arguments to straight up disrespect and hate mongering just ignore them till they get bored
They*
Yeah @strange wharf and I have met 😂
Ok haha. Not the same person?