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[near pier]

yeah true... illuvitars as well need somethign

[thin elbow]

essense is meh system

[near pier]

i guess the "essence" idea could work across systems

i like cooking

[thin elbow]

it's like i dont want to think deeply... just create an essence + an essence shop and job done

[vapid citrus]

Sir… my brain hurts already. Let’s make a no brain mechanism plz

[near pier]

true

im getting older too

dimentia soon likely

[vapid citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/sleepy-joe-in-disbelief-gif-9983194377714005725

[thin elbow]

different situation.
i'm totally open for a no brain thing from a userperspective.
But i would appreciate if devs keep using their brains

[vapid citrus]

Biden burn

[vapid citrus]

Yah… it doesn’t need to be complicated… but really should be meaningful enough for a user to want to do it

[vast spear]

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is to not be efficient when writing....

[thin elbow]

yea but it actually is pretty simple, right.
burn illuvial to improve another one.

In another mobile game i played where you got heroes out of packs, you actually needed 5 dupes to fully unleash a heroes potential.
Eating first dupe gave like +10% stats, eating 2nd dupe gave another 10% stats, different stuff for the other 3 and the last dupe actually improved the special ability making it 2 times more vauable.
It was by far the biggest revenue driver in that game and the dopamine kick when you finally got that special ability improved was A+.

Can see similar approaches across many games.

[silk bridge]

You mean random boosts?

Burn this illuvial and you have 5% chance of getting the best boost

[thin elbow]

?

[vapid citrus]

I’m tired of being an inventory manager spoon… don’t make me get more dupes plz

[thin elbow]

nah was just an example

[thin elbow]

i heard there's this great game called minesweeper... no managing of anything needed, might wana have a look into that 😛

https://tenor.com/view/minesweeper-mine-sweeper-fast-speedrun-gif-24760449

[vapid citrus]

No no I’m trapped here… can’t leave… in inventory purgatory until burn mechanism for Alllll illuvium assets not just illuvials

[lone spoke]

That might also work, and I like that it can be fairly simple... (also similar to other games, that have sockets).

If we have a system where you can "socket" gemstones in both Equipment and in an Illuvial, you could burn an illuvial to get a specific "Gemstone with stat" in 5 different tiers. For the Illuvials you can only socket one Gemstone of the same Tier. Might also be an option to re-use some of alle the "stuff" that has been farmed in OW, and the gemstones could be crafted in the same way as done in OW today. 🤔

[vapid citrus]

Another idea

Let’s make a gamble burn mechanic

You get to choose your game, arena, beyond, ow/mmo, zero… you add X amount of things and get something random that is relevant to that game. Could range from meaningful to trivial… but all still useful.

[vague hound]

Exactly. Could make gemstones etc tradable too.

[near pier]

love this game

you guys ready to play testnet in 15min

[vapid citrus]

can play testnet later around 1pm pst

is tiktalik the new op?

[tribal gyro]

When is the pod coming back?

[maiden tangle]

I suggest that Increasing illuvial stat by +1% should make it similar to fusing 3 of same kind illuvials and 3 of same stage illuvials and the percentage chances getting +1% stat increase should be like this for example the health stat of 3 illuvials are 5 health + 5 health +5 health should be100% guaranteed +1% stat gain on health. Maximum illuvial's stat maybe cap it to perfect TPI/traits of 10/10 to all stats for now until maybe the need to add more in the future.
Check the sample percentage chances getting +1% stat increase when fusing.
Sample Health Stat of 3 illuvials for fusing for stat increase.
5+5+4= 95%
4+4+1=68%
5+3+0= 65%
4+4+0 = 62%
4+3+1 = 61%
5+0+0= 55%
4+0+0=50%
2+0+0= 40%
1+0+0= 30%
0+0+0= 25%

[foggy inlet]

Oh man I left work early to play some arena woot

or should i work on my lands hmmm

[near pier]

Probably in Jan

[languid silo]

https://tenor.com/view/showing-myself-grogu-star-wars-the-mandalorian-here-i-am-reveal-myself-gif-14402650074460070717

Get it Rich?

he is inside a Pod

[rain moss]

when some tournaments from dream esports?

[topaz holly]

I think that will destroy the spirit of the game.... I dont think that would be popular.... Better to make cooking something that does NOT involve Illuvials

[brazen bobcat]

Palworld got away with it ;p but I agree its too wacky for me

[maiden tangle]

I think any illuvial burning mechanisms to upgrade your best illuvials is good but it sounds very confusing and complicated specially for new players coming in why not simplify it find same 3 illuvials and 3 same stage illuvials and fuse them to increase stats. There should be 2 options of fusing to increase stage or to increase stats very simple. Check my suggestion above in this chat

[inner topaz]

I do share Perry’s concerns that this is touching our interoperable collection so it needs to be well thought out for all products in the future. But what I will say is I’m 100% in favour of a burn mechanic, which previously I was on the fence about.

Re the complexity I think the scary thing there is when its being applied. If it’s really simple in the UI and the user doesn’t have to think about it too much then we can get away with it. If it creates decision paralysis then it’s probably going to end up worse. And then there is of course understanding more stats when purchasing illuvials off the market place, but tied into TPI I think it’s mostly okay.

[languid silo]

https://tenor.com/view/trivia-night-gif-22738605

[lone spoke]

maybe we don't have to actually change any stats... if there is a way to add a "socket" to an Illuvial, you could place a gemstone that provides something like a + 10% dodge change to your Rhamphye. and you can get those gemstones by burning Illuvials via a model like Nil suggested. Thats also something that is fairly simple to understand, and could also be applied to armor in MMO. But Agree its something that needs to be carefully thought out. 🤔

[silk bridge]

Why making the stat change inter-game? Just tying it to the MMO would be good enough of a reward in my opinion
Burning to make your creatures stronger makes more sense in an MMO than in an autobattler/MOBA/FPS etc

[maiden tangle]

I think that can also be a good idea maybe bond that gemstone permanently like illuvium beyond illuvitar it gives uniqueness on each illuvial so if you sell or trade, it will have that unique stat attached to that illuvial

[vast spear]

If stats are different in each game it's bring more dynamic into the illuvium ecosystem has long they keep the same rare weight in each games.

[lone spoke]

so having an option to socket a gemstone, and keep the same core stat of Illuvials makes it more flexible, you could have different gemstones for Arena and MMO 🙂

[vast spear]

Yes, but managing that will make it a bit messy for the basic player. I see what you mean

[thin elbow]

i actually thought something like this gets proposed from the MMO team, kinda surprised seeing it proposed from the arena team 😄
As it is similar to many mechanics an MMO brings with it to individualize a character.

Since Illuvials are the main assets and play an important role, why stop at the character with individualization.
Why not give infusion, talent trees, genetic enhancements etc. to Illuvials?
Especially since we likely not walk arround with the full collection, but rather with 3 or 5 chosen ones to supplement the rangers role, it can be amazing to have those tools available for Illuvials to bring more depth to them.
It's usually easy to implement, can act as rewards for weekly/monthly/event/raid rewards to improve them which keep players engaged and opens up for theory-crafting.
Having multiple smaller systems like that keeps complexity in itself pretty low and complexity just increases with the the more features get implemented.
If you keep the feature amount low, you have to keep players engaged with content like dungeons, raids, expanding the world etc. which is usually connected to way more dev work.

[vast spear]

This is AI with context/ discussion about Soulbound item pro/con (retention vs economy)

[maiden tangle]

The problem with gemstones to enhance illuvials stats, might be too easy for whales to get them so the leviathan will just basically pure pay to win and that's not good in anygame

There should be a balance for luck and right illuvials for fusion/ burning to get +1% of stat

[thorny jacinth]

ohhh thank you so much this gonna be a good help for me. Im still trying to get whats the best build for me

[vast spear]

Your welcome 😄

[thorny jacinth]

is this like a site?

[brazen bobcat]

Stop spoiling future illuvial progression pls 👀

[near pier]

Yes some ai made it

[silk bridge]

I've heard that one of the strengths of Axie is that all the breeding combinations lead to a lot of theorycrafting and meta changes, this is basically free content

If we could have something similar with infusions, talent trees, gemstones etc it would be a nice trick to give depth/content to the game with minimal efforts as Spoon said

[near pier]

Yeah but they botched the breeding with an unsustainable model, I think it’s hard to compare anything to what they experienced

[topaz holly]

This reminds me of a question I wanted to ask.... Did Illuvium scrap the Illuvial Egg idea?

[near pier]

I don’t even remember this lol so likely so

Maybe

I was also out for 2 months

[restive mist]

Think it was mentioned in the first townhall / ama with Steven and Trevor when they explained their ideas for the vertical slice

Haven't heard anything about it since though, so perhaps

[junior blaze]

First batch of Gifs finally available for use on Discord! Tenor takes a bit longer to upload.

Let me know what reactions you want to see

Also want to say it's been great seeing so many people engage and share these gifs on platforms like X.

201.9k Gif views in 6 days with a very limited collection has been great to see

[tribal gyro]

The Kieran morning dump gif 🤣 🤣

[junior blaze]

Monkier*

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-monkier-good-morning-gm-funny-gif-18082341885578053154

[tribal gyro]

Yeah Kieran's monkey haha

[jovial trellis]

yo so how many people got bets testing

[topaz holly]

@split lintel Knows what I am talking about

[split lintel]

This adds to Illuvium what is currently my favourite part about competitive Pokemon. The EV stats.

Basically each stat can have 252 EVs in it, and it maxes out at a total of 520. The idea is that a Pokemon can really max out 2 stats or do a broad mix and it completely changes the way they are utilised in the game, you'd be shocked at how different it can truly become. This plays down that path.

My notes:

I don't think you should be able to replace older infusions, the permanence of the blockchain is one of the fun parts. We don't do rebonding in Beyond, lets keep that the same here.

If it has too little effect/meaning then it'll fall really flat, if it has too much then stats/level becomes worthless. I don't realistically think a balance even exists here tbh, it'll be one or the other. I'd suggest that the max infusions should be really small, with the effects remaining relatively modest, helps mitigate it being too much, with limited customisability.

Lastly its clear that the no NFT sinks is a big problem, but I'd argue levelling up Illuvials easily is a way bigger problem. I'd be hopeful this could be incorporated to help resolve that somehow, but thats more a personal request.

[red geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-illuvial-illuvials-illuviumgame-creature-gif-5057617232056665053

[split lintel]

Yeah this is a problem, people would just wait to use the big boys, nothing lower on the totem pole would get burned, and if u did it would just ruin the resale value of imperfection

yeah forcing a mix of illuvials is good here

damn i like this too

if you limit it by time spent the entire idea collapses immediately tbh. Timepoor players I'd assume are the majority, really want to alienate every single one with thousands of Illuvials?

[split lintel]

i think they scrapped it ages ago yep

I will say Perry is ultimately right here. The overcomplexity is a giant issue when it comes to this idea. Even in Pokemon, a vast majority of players don't interact with the customisation systems that are integral to the competitive scene, simply because they don't care.

And like Kieran touched on, it really needs to consider future integrations and developments. But the reality is no one wants to wait for the MMO before we get Illuvial burning, and so this system either needs to focus on Arena, or try to be somewhat open ended.

I will say that Illuvials are the premiere asset and need to be central to every game system so I don't see an issue with 500 ways to burn an Illuvial.

1. Burn for EXP Crystals
2. Burn to enhance weapons
3. Burn to infuse armour
4. Burn to boost Illuvial stats
5. Burn for blueprint cosmetics

Everything needs a max limit, eg 3 burns for weapons, 5 for Illuvials etc.

But it needs to remain simple at every level. Keep the idea of burning Illuvials simple. Burn Atlas for Atlas armour, burn Atlas for Atlas Omega, Burn Atlas with 500XP for 500XP crystal.

Keep it as straightforward as possible and it should be fine.

[near pier]

I think i partially agree with my boi here

[left briar]

basic adr no longer drops a 90?

there's a huge problem with burning illuvials though.... if 3 make a skin, and 3 do this or that....tier 1,2, no issues, tier 5 serious issue... low stat illuvials are skin food... and not enough of them if they are no longer obtainable when new set

why such an obession to burn an illuvial? i have 300 mike schmidt baseball cards in a bucket from the 80's... they just sit there doing what they always will do.. nothing

could i get out there and get a nickel from some new born collector... probably... why?

if i throw them out is anyone gonna notice? no

i dont have enough scaraboks to make all the bp skin pieces for myself... let alone goliant and titanor

weapons is a different story.. .they key to weapons is charging it.... requires fuel... if i made a game, you could find the best weapon in the world at anytime via a random loot drop.... keeping it powered is going to cost you

min maxing the use of that weapon to break even is a skill

[junior blaze]

Yes.

(K)eep
(I)t
(S)imple
(S)tupid

[split lintel]

That's true but the free market tends to resolve itself. People like myself will horde tonnes of Tier 5s, right before the Tier 5 stops becoming available

[split lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/minions-i-love-you-kiss-mwahhh-muah-gif-11956605

[left briar]

but that is the exact worry, those cards will never make it to market... market funds the game when nfts sell

in 2 years, a vanilla gorilla suit might be a tasty treat

[split lintel]

i mean when the playerbase grows they'll definitely be traded, just for a higher price if they are scarce, but I see what u mean that volume is king, and burning all the NFTs eventually kills the volume. Very bell curve

tbf anything that ceases to be traded, will be replaced by a newer shinier thing

[dense grove]

Why? Because people want higher stats and levels without spending the money and/or time to get them.

We will burn all the crap Illivials so we can all have great Illivials which will make the great Illuvials crap Iiluvials because everyone will have them.

[gloomy delta]

I really like this concept

[left briar]

so you create a deflationary pressure, and create some demand... but whales become powerful.. casuals abandon progression... and after time, segregates the new player base, way behind

I think you need a focus on seperating illuvials as the soul of the game, and treat them as the economy, not that i have pondered this more than a second at this point... i just think, you have to create your game... and focus on transactions, not caring too much on useless assets, and like a good thing in this regard, is say you really have a useless asset that eneds help, you can always make something for it in the future

[left briar]

i meant min maxing as, if you are abusing your overpowered weapon, you are spending resources in a losing fashion... to use that weapon and not lose resources, you have to use it wisely.... there's a cost, so having it, aint hurting much bcause if abused, they are paying for it, and it kinda needs to be like this... if a weapon is a nft? everyone is just handing each otehr the good stuff in a transfer... i guess this is obvious issues

heeh gives me a thought to ponder, instead of play to earn, maybe its earn to burn

the progression system switches, instead of trying to progress your character, the goal is to progress your nft's so you can burn them itno something useful

[split lintel]

Well this could actually resolve itself. If the team goes the onchain/offchain illuvials setup, where you only convert them to nfts if u want to, it does help with that progression issue

But power creep also fixes it. Pokemon adds new monsters all the time that make some older ones irrelevant. A good example is tapu fini making half the water tanks worthless.

[left briar]

true, but that was deep thought and done for a reason for game stall issues they had...

[split lintel]

Yes and no. New additions tend to fix issues with balance, but every single long-serving game has insane power creep.

Its common in TCGs, but even League of Legends reworks older characters because they suck as new ones are added.

[left briar]

so ya think the risk vs reward is them giving you the option to "press your luck" risk all your gained resources for a higher level attempt to complete for better rewards?

[split lintel]

Not sure what u mean sorry

[left briar]

So I imagine a Overworld run gives some loot when/if you finish, and they talking about implementing risk for reward tactics..so run again at higher difficulty for a better reward or get nothing

[split lintel]

Could you pinpoint the reference? There's been a lot of different stuff mentioned in regards to 'risk'

[left briar]

just an assumption from whatever social posts etc

[split lintel]

Kieran has previously mentioned some new risk to earn systems

Based on other Crypto Games, its likely it'll be PvP in some way maybe?

Think Poker

Pure speculation tho

[tribal gyro]

They should worry bout PvE first before even thinking about PvP. If you want a risk/reward system with progression that works it can be like Legend of Ymir, tho any Wemix game does this, u craft gear then craft it again and risk losing the 2nd piece to enhance the first

Certain tiers of enhancement give extra bonus stats

[left briar]

PvP is so difficult on so many levels... I can only see one way of making it function, that would be factions, 7 lands, 7 factions, fighting for the glory of Illuvium via realm points.... Or I guess you do 3 factions but can fight on the 7 realms each of higher difficulty... its really the only way to get everyone involved, and actually be helpful when not a high skilled player... Supporting your faction with just a few realm points for the leaderboard is an epic feeling no game devs really understand... Game loop is friends going out and beating down certain PvE points like an LoL Jungler would do while all watching out from getting jumped... All to score the use of that Obelisk Armour suit skin for the next season

Outside of that its usually just a grief tool, and doesn't go with mmo casual players

and how this works is a gift to the economy... the reward is a time based NFT to use that skin, and you can even sell it

[tribal gyro]

so the ffxi conquest system

[left briar]

not familiar with ff much... but the system allows you to help your faction and earn points and bonuses, and 3 factions makes sure of one faction not always slaughtering the other, and actually you can change factions, but there's downsides, you have to earn your loyalty points to get credit... and that will reduce if changing, so you can just switch last moment to the winning team...

[tribal gyro]

yeah that's ffxi conquest system on a broad sense. it gave the ability to buy certain gear and crafting materials based off if u were 1st, 2nd, or 3rd in conquest tally for the week

also let u unlock certain tele locations if u controlled a zone

[left briar]

yeah your typical buffs and i would say "conveniences"

[tribal gyro]

It's the only indirect form of pvp in an mmo i have personally seen that most people didn't hate tbh. Direct pvp, like u said, is mainly a griefing technique or the reason to whale in an mmo. Most PvE MMO players hate PvP, especially when it's forced

[left briar]

yup, the real trick is a shadowbane type system, there were set times certain things dropped.. so like a realm point boss at 5pm.... factions would send out scouts, rangers would cloak in the shadows, all to score a nice resource... but great fights broke out...

so many memories of trying to pickpocket spawn when 40 others were thinking the same thing and you had to fight to the death to claim your chance... that was more of the memory than the stupid reward

[languid silo]

Great weekend for those that are missing some points for the final battleboard

https://x.com/illuviumio/status/1999027049017602230?s=46&t=_162LfDX7Pl5brRIuSRWEQ

Illuvium (@illuviumio)

⚔️ 2x Battle Pass Points drop this weekend! ⚔️
Every Arena match hits double. Big gains incoming.

📅 Starts Dec 12, 00:00 UTC
👇 What build are you opening with?

X · Dec 11, 2025, 8:02 AM

[hoary mist]

after +6 you risk to destroy the piece if you push higher and it happens very frequently.+10 and +12 (not easy haha) gives you the PVP damage, otherwise in pvp you litterally do 0.001 dmg per hit

[rain moss]

we gettting them points, but when those raffle draws happening?

it was supposed to be on big tournament day but i havnt seen any raffles going on

[languid silo]

I belive the next one will be on the townhall next week.
@near pier can confirm when he wakes up

[near pier]

Raffle will be at town hall yeah

[silk bridge]

I love the idea of having meaningful decisions like permanent infusions but since we are talking about valuable NFTs, I think that it will just lead everyone to min-max their infusion to avoid devaluation

Even casual gamers

[silk bridge]

The most simple system would be to burn illuvials for a currency like illuvial essence and then use this to do everything that you mentioned
The downside is that it would have less soul, your Atlas will not be burned to give a reward related to Atlas

[silk bridge]

Is it really a good idea to make set 1 completely uncatchable after adding so many ways to reduce the illuvials supply?
New players need set 1 illuvials to play the arena

[thin elbow]

can't do perma infusion if balance changes monthly.
Also beyond pretty bad example since the most precious always stay unbonded and people almost start crying when they have to bond one of those to keep their placements 😄

I can see that people barely would use the system to not pay much and either infuse the "wrong" thing or the infusion becomes bad in next balance patch... + The fear of a lower resale value if an illuvial is already infused

[split lintel]

I imagined earlier sets getting phased out of Arena, in a TFT style fashion where every 6 months the rules are completely new.

[silk bridge]

As far as I understand they don't have enough resources to make a huge set 2, set 1 is already lacking lines so players complain about being contested every game because of it
Also it would be bad to remove use cases for set 1 illuvials

[thorny jacinth]

hey guys we will be having our gamenight in CTG server, feel free to join and give us tips 😄

[tribal gyro]

depends on the item tho. some equips are after +1

[hoary mist]

only the blue seasonal..you need them +10 before the end of theseason otherwise they will autodestruct lol

safe level is +6, after that you risk to destroy the item

[hoary mist]

ah..ye even the 2 blazon are after +1

[vast spear]

Nice, which game ?

[thorny jacinth]

Its the arena version we are still ongoing 😄

[thorny jacinth]

Thanks for dropping by @vast spear ! ❤️

[brazen bobcat]

Yeah permas wont work here, should be overridable but the old infusion is lost

[thin elbow]

Having the word "interoperable" in mind, how do you see the future of such features.
Do you think they should apply ecosystem wide, game-specific or a mix (kind of like some are global and some are gamespecific)?

[brazen bobcat]

Part of me feels quite strongly when you're doing things to our main interoperable collection it should be reflected in all games, even though interpretation can be different
That said, maybe that's me and if we can make something like this Arena-specific it makes lives a lot easier

[brazen bobcat]

Challenge is to make overriding interesting, two things on mind for now

1. Rarity progression. WoW had different gems of different rarity with diminishing returns. If you found a rare gem you might socket it to get the power boost now. When you find an epic gem you'll socket that later. Net effect is 2 gems burnt though
   Looking at our supply outside of T5S3 this will be tough to simulate

2. (All of this isnt confirmed) Variety. Adorius X has the "Ergon Magnet" trait which I use when I'm Ergon farming. Adorius Y has the "Harvester" trait which I use when I'm doing harvesting runs to earn credits from other people. Much easier in MMO's because you have so much more proto-stats to work with. Feels a lot harder in autobattlers

3. Any community ideas?

I'll try think on something more elegant see if anything pops up

[thin elbow]

Yea i feel the same.
I think if you make them global you increase automatically demand and playing hours because some hardcore players want to have an optimal version for every occasion, as you mentioned in your other post.
You have for example a full dmg jotun for arena, and maybe a full resistance/HP jotun to use as an off-tank in dungeons or similar. (don't think that's actually a bad thing to have)

Another option might be to have like two or 3 slots for infusions (or similar features). So you could activate slot 1 for game 1 and slot 2 for game 2. (maybe even changeable in one game itself, so you could play slot 1 or slot 2 in arena depending on meta). It would still require burning assets to get both slots improved, but no need to have another leveled up Illuvial. And if meta completely shifts in arena or you need a new direction because a new dungeon opened you are still forced to override a slot. Basically just offering "some" flexibility

[tribal gyro]

How do you guys possibly balance content around all these variables tho? If u try to balance around variable stats then the content is going to end up being too hard or too easy based off TPI. Almost feels like TPI should be the base stats going into each game and then progression is done on a game to game basis. For example in the MMO a max stat TPI illuvial would naturally level into max stats at max level but an all 0 stat illuvial would need to do alot of quests or training to get to the max stats. That way the content can still be balanced with max stats and illuvial progression in mind.

[lone spoke]

I defiantly like the "socket a gem" idea the most, and like your example... it's also how it work in other games like WoW, and Diablo also has this, where you socket gems with different added bonus, (can be resist, core stats, etc.) and you replace it as you progress. These gems often give a small boost, but is not "build defining" or anything like that, but they are important enough to want to use them and ultimately get the best one in each slot. in Diablo you also have the "rune gems" that is more special, but can only be used in specific gear slots....

I think a system like that could work for both arena and MMO... weather you need separate slots for each game or can just have one with the option to swap them when needed, I don't know. It just has to be what is the easiest and most intuitive for the players.

These gems can then be crafted used the Illuvials (burn them), and based on the taint and Tier, it can produce different gems. (just have to not overcomplicate it by creating too many variants... like with Suit skins 😁 )

[humble dagger]

does anyone know what's going on with Aaron? he hasn't chatted in discord for nearly 2 months, his last message saying he would be back soon. Also I believe he was head of Arena, but managing the skeleton crew remaining on Arena doesn't seem nearly challenging enough for Aaron. Is he helping out with the MMO-Lite? I hope the Town Hall doesn't contain his stepping down announcement 🙁

[fiery rose]

When are you going to fix IlluviDex? It's about time you focused on it a bit, right? How about inviting @fallen meadow for a collaboration?

[foggy inlet]

ok stream is up live on twitch checking cummunity-content channel for link or search for zephurosx on twitch I am going through all 100 lands

[spiral acorn]

team is working on it. You'll hear news about it very soon.

[brazen bobcat]

I just dont think the expression of stats in arena is that interesting because lvl/tpi is on that axis already, but it is quite simple so theres that benefit. Typical mmos have enough protostats to solve it. Havent found a better expression yet though. Augments/synergies/hyper who knows

[topaz holly]

This actually looks different than my Illuvidex.... Interesting....

[spiral acorn]

can you help us understand how you got that error? Illuvidex seems to be working fine. You can DM me if you want and we can even speak in portuguese.
I won't DM you first!

[restive mist]

Could possibly be a VPN blocking issue or just their internet is down... Never personally run into the error 500 for Illuvidex

[spring breach]

Does anyone know why the XP gained on illuvials is so low? Why is this the case..? Impossible to gain any level at all

[restive mist]

Arena/Gauntlet was always intended to be a slow method of gaining xp - levelling properly was attached to the overworld and actually playing with them in your team there.

This might change in the future, or with the MMO, but yeah.. I don't think the team intended for people to level up with solely Arena tbh

[thin elbow]

i usually get it recently when you filter for stats and change filters while the site is loading for the previous set filters.

To work arroundd one basically has to change one filter, let the site load, change next filter, let the site load ... repeat...

[spring breach]

But isnt overworld closed now? or

[restive mist]

Nope

The leaderboard rewards for bounty hunt was on a 2 week break. You can still play overworld

[spiral acorn]

yep seems to have been the case 👍

[spring breach]

Ok, thought i read that somewhere, thanks 🙂

[vast spear]

It's the Bounty overworld which have been stop for 2 weeks see #📣〕announcements

[thin elbow]

i actually feel the xp gained are quite on point in arena

[restive mist]

Yeah, it's not terrible considering you can level a decent amount in a single match

[fast narwhal]

hi

@plain delta i'm new to the game and i want to delete my account how can I do that please can provide me with steps? It will much appreciated and why the support ticket is not opening ??

@pseudo trench i'm new to the game and i want to delete my account how can I do that please can provide me with steps? It will much appreciated and why the support ticket is not opening ??

[restive mist]

Hi sam, try avoid pinging multiple main devs at once, they won't always be available to help out, since they are super busy most days!

First of all, can I ask why you'd like to delete your account? Most things can be customised or moved if there's any specific reason.

But if there's nothign you need help with, and it's simply to delete the account altogether, you can reach support by clicking this button in the bottom right, when you're on the Illuvium site

Let me know if there's anything specific we can maybe help with before you fully delete

[fast narwhal]

I wanted to switch from immutable to metamask its not switching because i don't like to use immutable

so that is the reason i want to delete i was trying to switch for a 2 hours

[restive mist]

I'm afraid to hold most assets for use in overworld/arena etc, the assets need to be attached to an Immutable account. The exception is having Land assets on secondary wallet etc.

If your assets are on ETH/Metamask, they will not be usable for most of the ecosystem

[fast narwhal]

that's the thing

immutable is very hard to use honestly

[restive mist]

What parts are you having trouble with specifically?
For Illuvium itself, all you need to do is use an email to create an account, log in with that email when you play the game via Epic games, and it does it all itself

Everything can be managed through Illuviums site alone

Is there specific stuff you are struggling with?

[fast narwhal]

yeah can't I play without connecting to immutable ??

[restive mist]

Sadly not, Immutable passport is used to log-in to the game

But again, I don't understand what issue you would be having if it's just to log in.
You simply enter the email address as your login, and it lets you straight into the game

It's the same as most log in functionality across any web game

[fast narwhal]

i will soon be back when i fully understand how it works i will create an account and everything but for now i want to delete my game account if its possible please

@restive mist thank you for your supoort it was a pleasure to meet you

[split lintel]

The more thought I apply, the more I wonder if burning is actually necessary here?

I still think we burn for EXP but for stat customisation and distribution, just having Illuvials 'bond' with other Illuvials, and stay attached to them could be pretty cool.

This would add value to all Illuvials like we said, but avoid the issue of burning them all out of existence, while still restricting the supply in a way that will improve their general utility.

[rain moss]

how long it takes for gauntlet leaderboard rewards to arrive? 1-2days like before?

[restive mist]

Are you referring to Gauntlet leaderboard rewards?

[celest monolith]

good morning I have illuviun on the bnb network but I can't find dex where to swap, can you help me?

which dex can I swap on?

[near pier]

Binance is probably only place

[celest monolith]

I mean dex

[rain moss]

yes

[near pier]

dont think there is any

maybe orbiter

or layerswap

but doubt

or Rango

maybe

[restive mist]

Gauntlet weekly rewards are distributed immediatly on reset (happened yesterday) if you are in the top 100
https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/rewards

[rain moss]

yes i was in top100, but dont see any rewards for claim yet, gonna check tommorow again

[restive mist]

You sure you didn't get knocked out just before reset? A lot of people push final games in the last hour or so...
I don't think there's any delays on rewards this week, so you should see them there if you was eligible.

Another thing, remember that you must own the battlepass Premium in order to be eligible for Arena rewards

[rain moss]

one i need to pay 3k fuel?

[restive mist]

The premium battlepass, yea

[rain moss]

prob thats why i didnt get

[restive mist]

Ahh. If you don't own that, you aren't elibigle for leaderboard rewards, yea

[celest monolith]

no, none of these either thanks anyway

[nocturne marlin]

Can I use an autobot to find illumials?

[languid silo]

No not really😅

But we have automated Drone runs on the illuvidex, where you can collect Illuvials outside of the overworld

[nocturne marlin]

Ok! thank you

[rain moss]

can we be in raffle if we dont have battle pass yet?

or only ppl ith battle pass are drawn?

[silk bridge]

What if the infusion stat bonuses are only applied in the OW as an MMO feature rather than a boost on the NFT itself?

It would still have to be displayed on the illuvidex though so it wouldn't solve the problem, perhaps it would add even more confusion because some buyers could think that the boost is cross game

So far, burning for xp appears to be a W in everyone's eyes

Infusion is more risky

[languid silo]

You need battlepass to be in the raffles yea

[tardy summit]

[languid silo]

This is live BTW #📣〕announcements message

[vast spear]

Hello 😄

[dense grove]

TLDR: I don't know what MMO plans are. I don't know if there are still 100 million more Illuvials to catch in it and without actual numbers all of us are just speculating. If we still have hundreds of millions of them to catch then I guess it makes sense for us to burn them for everything but with current numbers it doesn't make sense. The negatives outweigh the positives imo.I would argue that it is better to have a bunch of low priced, low TPI Illuvials hanging around now than to overcompensate by "fixing" the problem just to create new problems in the future.
Burning for XP is still risky. I wouldn't say it is a W, it is just better than burning for other things if people really insist on them being burned.

Further Explanation for anyone willing to read my "book" @ripe geode 🤣
Three questions need to be answered before doing anything.

1. How much early player advantage do we want people to have?

2. Will burning raise the value or at least the perceived value of Illuvials?

3. Is it more of a negative that we currently have 2.5 million Illuvials than any problems created by burning would be?

4. There are people with 10K + Illuvials. If we put a cap of say 5 Illuvials burned per Illuvial they will still have 2 K Illuvials but they will be very strong Illuvials. Ones that new players won't be able to compete against easily. We would not just be giving early players the advantage of more time to luck out and find great Illuvials, we would be basically handing them a way to dominate.

5. We have some extremely cheap Illuvials for sale right now but they do not affect the value of high stat/high level Illuvials of the same species. A Rhamphyre with a TPI of 20 doesn't affect the price of a Rhamphyre with 90 TPI. At the same time a 70 TPI Illuvial doesn't feel as bad when captured because there are 30 TPI Illuvials out there. The same phsychology that makes people vote yes to systems that will give them better Illuvials is the same psychology that will leave them disappointed when everyone has Illuvials just as good as theirs. The problem is the more that people have to put into the Illuvial for it to end up average the more disappointed they will be.

6. 2.5 million Illuvials is a lot for the number of players we currently have but we are going to go under if we keep this number of players anyway, so we can't design systems based on our current player numbers. 2.5 million Illuvials is nothing for even 500K players. There are only 966 Rhamphyres in the game. Do we really want to encourage burning them? What will that do for people coming into the ecosystem in a year or two? Does it look bad to have Atlas selling for under a cent? Sure but it is selling for that because we don't have enough buyers not because we have too many Illuvials. We would have to get down to such a low number being sold for the price to go up right now and that would totally mess us up for the future if we did that.

I think we have to be so careful with how we approach this and not have a knee jerk reaction.

[steady silo]

I’m a senior software engineer working across AI systems, decentralized systems engineering, and end-to-end product development. I build LLM pipelines, embeddings, agents, vector search systems, RAG architectures, and high-reliability backend services using Python, FastAPI, Rust, Node.js, LangChain, LlamaIndex, and vector databases like Pinecone, Weaviate, Qdrant, and Milvus.
In decentralized systems, I’ve built DEXs, DAOs, DeFi protocols, NFT marketplaces, custom smart contracts, automation systems, and indexing pipelines across EVM, Solana, Polkadot, Stellar, and XRPL. My main stacks include Solidity, Rust, Anchor, Substrate, Hardhat, Foundry, CosmWasm, The Graph, and on-chain data services.
I deliver production-ready platforms from smart contracts and backend APIs to modern frontends using React, Next.js, Vue, and Svelte with a strong focus on security, scalability, and clean architecture. 🙏

[ripe geode]

very nice portfolio I see here, we already have @near pier for all those things, but please monitor our jobs offer page

• https://illuvium.io/jobs

[red geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/pirates-of-the-caribbean-black-pearl-toolong-walk-plank-slow-gif-13995988

[dense grove]

I know I have a tendency to write too much for many to read but it seems a little harsh to make me into shark food because of my verbosity.👀 😂

[near pier]

https://tenor.com/view/friends-joey-gif-19706259

[astral socket]

I'm stuck at Authenticating help anyone?

ye?

hmm

[near pier]

You mean logging in

[astral socket]

yeah

autenticating taking too long

[near pier]

Do you have pop up blocker or vpn

[astral socket]

don't have pop up blocker or vpn too

[near pier]

And it’s happening when logging into game or website ? And you get the popup but can’t login

[ripe geode]

Hey guys

Semi-official announcement 😅

Most of you are Illu-degens, so you’re battle-tested by now, but we’re seeing** increased reports of scam emails pretending to be Illuvium**. Please be careful out there.

We will never send an email asking you to claim anything, and there is no email saying you’ve won 1 million ILV.

Stay safe

[west lark]

Hey, I'm getting this Network Error when accesing the game. What can I do about it?

[languid silo]

On a Vpn?

[west lark]

Nope

[languid silo]

Did you try to re logging the passport?

[west lark]

Ok, I'll try that, thanks

[near pier]

Testnet or ranked

[west lark]

@languid silo thank you very much, relogging did the trick!

[languid silo]

https://tenor.com/view/weekend-party-champagne-gif-18280013

@near pier you know what we need to do to celebrate this Re-login issue that was just fixed?

[near pier]

leak?

trivia

?

mmo live look

[languid silo]

All three ser

But MMO live would be sweet

[silk bridge]

I didn't earn 1M $ILV? 😮

[ripe geode]

let me ask marketing department

RRRIIIIIIIICHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!

did he won anything?

silence we hear safe to assume no reward today

[near pier]

Did he?

[ripe geode]

||say no 🤫 ||

[near pier]

No

hehe

@ripe geode we have liftoff

[ripe geode]

wen mainnet

[open leaf]

nice

[near pier]

at least its not 67

[languid silo]

https://tenor.com/view/sixseven-six-seven-six-seve-67-gif-14143337669032958349

[primal fern]

When MMO? I need it now

[languid silo]

this ser https://youtu.be/nv06T5O3GJ4?si=RZhdgbo9bpzLHZUC

@split lintel love the thumbnails btw

[split lintel]

People criticise the YouTube clickbaitiness 🤣🤣.

I gots to play the game

Sorry 🙁

[languid silo]

i love it,and the new shorts you put out for the VS townhall is gold.

[split lintel]

Was actually from a video where I talked about the town Hall. So 3 layers deep 🤣🤣🤣

Can't waste good content I suppose

[languid silo]

Are we getting a 2025 wrap-up? With Sam, TSG and Vetemor as special guest😅 I would watch that

[split lintel]

I don't really want to be all bummed out 🤣🤣

I'm a really positive guy. I know it doesn't come across sometimes but I really live off positivity

[sonic dagger]

lol

[near pier]

In life Scoriox sometimes you need to make your own positivity

[gloomy delta]

lol dork.... its obvious on stream you are mostly positive.

If anything any negativity you show looks like you are trying to remain balanced.

No offence intended!

[split lintel]

i think positivity is more productive than negativity, im quite utilitarian that way

[dense grove]

There is always something to be grateful for and thankful about.🙂

[unique ingot]

@split lintel watching the YT video i see you have some collectibles in the back. Do you collect on Veve as well?

[split lintel]

one of my first projects I got super into

but havent for a long ass time

I got deeply offended that they couldn't make a good app, I work on several apps and websites at my day job, so I understand how stupid easy it is.

[unique ingot]

Ah, well there app and webapp Stakrr world has improved. The IP they have now is awesome. They are also working on self custody. Still early stages as there is no real utlity yet.

[left briar]

noone responds to support, can i get api access for tpi data so i can launch this friggan site

ill just scrap it.. later

[topaz holly]

what was it?

[sonic dagger]

Have kids

[split lintel]

I love the dark side. Unironically I ain't a very empathetic person.

But you can either create or destroy.

There will come a time to destroy, but it is not today! Destroy our competition I mean 😛

[astral socket]

All good now, thx for the assist. Becuz of my pop up blocker.

Game is so fun

[tribal gyro]

I have one haha

[tribal gyro]

Why not create to destroy or destroy to create?

[sonic dagger]

two should do it

NFA

[tribal gyro]

No thanks

[sonic dagger]

Wise call

i thought it was only gonna be twice as hard

i was terribly wrong

[nocturne marlin]

hi! Has anyone tried Illuvium Battle Layout Optimizer?

[languid silo]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-suspect-gif-22611582

[languid silo]

Whats that?

Nope,was just curiouse on what you meant with the Layout optimizer.

Never heard of it,becareful
Alot of those ads are scams.
Unless its from official Partners or from the Official Illuvium account i would stay away.

[languid silo]

Iam a mod, our community manager is @near pier

Welcome btw

[green carbon]

My layout optimizer is watching SL1cKz. His constant re-positioning is next level.

[languid silo]

is that a thing?

[green carbon]

Lol, no, i mean I watch him stream to learn positioning. I wouldn't use something that plays the game for me.

Even AI wouldn't be able to keep up with that dude, his positioning and re-positioning is so constant and so fast.

[languid silo]

lol yeah have tried aswell,i think i have hit my peak, skill wise for Arena.

[green carbon]

Haha yeah you think you are getting somewhere, then you watch those top guys and see how much deeper their thoguht process is. It's nuts.

[languid silo]

100%

[topaz holly]

Welcome

[rain moss]

anyone playing ranked?

been waiting for a while, still 1/8

damn

usualy it takes 2 min

https://tenor.com/view/dog-crying-meme-doggo-crys-megan-soo-crying-dog-gif-5276199764143986284

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crying-cat-cat-meme-cat-crying-meme-crying-cat-meme-gif-7433931244412524776

[vapid citrus]

I get a bug a lot where it shows 1/8 but its not accurate

game ends up loading in with 8/8 after a few mins

welp waiting way longer than usual

browken

[rain moss]

ye somthing is not right

trie to reconext few times, restart pc, and relog immutable pas

still nothing

[lone temple]

sane

[rain moss]

whats going on with arena? trying to join for 1h, but all the timee its 1/8

[half arrow]

Me too

[rain moss]

then it must be some changes they doing in backround, or something got broken reecently 🤫

[weak narwhal]

hi

[restive mist]

Hello floflo

[rain moss]

whats happening with arena?

every time i ttry to fin match its 1/8 an it doesent change

also same with other ppl

[restive mist]

seems broken atm, but devs are looking into it - #🎮〕illuvium-arena message

[rain moss]

maybe i broke arena cuz i bought battle pass 😂

[dense grove]

Mine does that but if I wait I join a match.

[rain moss]

i guess i dont want it hard enough then 😆

[dense grove]

https://tenor.com/view/you-got-to-be-patient-bear-with-me-patience-hang-on-alexa-davalos-gif-15585483

[lethal pecan]

why dont find any player for start the match in arena? is this a system issue?!

[rain moss]

https://tenor.com/view/no-the-office-michael-scott-scream-gif-16929305

[rain moss]

ye, something broke

[vapid citrus]

anyone casual?

[topaz holly]

nobody in arena now? odd

why is ranked arena so quiet now?

[topaz holly]

This is a good reason to extend the Double Points weekend!

or to do another double points weekend next weekend, because this weekend was burnt

[rain moss]

arena is working now

only music not working in game

[foggy inlet]

I can’t play until later blah

[vapid citrus]

so what happened? 👀

[topaz holly]

is it down again? it seems odd that nobody is Q'ed up in Ranked Arena

[severe pumice]

eyerrrp looks like its down again

time to touch some grass

https://tenor.com/view/rolling-thomas-mcgregor-domhnall-gleeson-peter-rabbit2-the-runaway-gif-20962823

[topaz holly]

with the pain im in today.... I would rather fall off the wagon and smoke some grass

[cyan anchor]

Any eta to game fix?

[livid edge]

games on!

[jovial vessel]

is there anyway to get free fuel in the game? without fuel you cant do anything might aswell delete the whole game

[worthy sable]

ranked leaderboard rewards can be claimed in fuel instantly + 20% bonus

[vague hound]

Congrats on your engagement @split lintel 💍♥️

[sonic dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/clap-clapping-austin-powers-gif-26345367

[hearty dune]

but you have buy battle-pass to it with fuel.

[worthy sable]

oh true woops forgot about that

[thin elbow]

could try to sell some good stat T0 illuvials which you can farm in stage 0 in overworld for free.
They actually are priced higher than the T1 you get in the cheapest paid run.

[split lintel]

Appreciate it mate! Been a long time coming

[vast spear]

If you have any specific question ask them here: #1446566441255174264 message

[wispy kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-ilv-yield-farming-yield-farm-play2earn-gif-23069193

[thin elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-phyri-good-morning-gm-cute-gif-13747559329206716385

[wispy kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/update-para-lomotif-updates-gif-18121314

[thin elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-illuvial-illuvials-illuviumgame-creature-gif-5057617232056665053

[topaz holly]

I wish I knew the secret of memes

[foggy inlet]

How much time is left on double exp weekend?

[plain ridge]

shared recognition ...

[vast spear]

Ask AI to teach you 😏 🧠

[rain moss]

7h:30 min

[topaz holly]

AI doesnt tell secrets, it is usally part of the matrix which protects them

i have 17 days left to get approximately 800 points

I believe!

[lyric pumice]

come on guys I want that testnet version

[jovial vessel]

only ranked leaderboards give fuel im guessing?

[jovial vessel]

like a HE rainbow Doko?

i guess i could try but that would take lots of time

[restive mist]

Yeah, ranked leaderboards offer rewards that can be claimed in ILV or fuel.
you need the premium battlepass to be eligible for the leaderboad rewards though

[jovial vessel]

theres like zero f2p in the game lol

[restive mist]

Incorrect.

[jovial vessel]

i tried the Illvium Zero game, you need to purchase plots that are like 300 USDT each

[restive mist]

There is a f2p version of every single part of this ecosystem.

Plots are going for like $40 rn lol

also, there is a f2p plot

your problem is that you cannot earn while playing; not that you cannot play. 2 very different things

[jovial vessel]

yes but you cannot make money on it

[restive mist]

If everyone could make money for nothing, everything crumbles.

That's one of the fundamental reasons why 99% of crypto games have shut their doors

Like spoon said, you can go into free overworld stages, and actually sell T0 illuvials for money. It will just take you time

This is more than most crypto games offer tbh

[jovial vessel]

yes but there selling for amounts that are basically not even worth your time, a high level doko with good attributes sells for like 0,34 cents

[thin elbow]

no, just good stats... don't need to be holo

[restive mist]

You are putting 0 dollars in... what would you expect to get in return?

[jovial vessel]

im not saying give us free fuel, give us a option to try and earn it lmao

[thin elbow]

yes, takes some time.
But can't expect to play 5 min and be rich 😄

[restive mist]

Again, not to be rude, but these sort of systems are what make everything fall apart. There can not be unlimited cash given to people who provide no value to an ecosystem

[restive mist]

you literally have that option

[jovial vessel]

like your ranked leaderboards need a battlepass too lmao

[restive mist]

Go hunt some Dark holo T0's

no cost to you, and they will sell

even better if they ahve high stats

[jovial vessel]

or maybe i can try getting some of guilds? still havent tried that

[restive mist]

Yup, and you get into raffles to win more prizes, weekly payouts of up to $220, and a bunch of premium track nft's that are solely for that battle pass

[jovial vessel]

tbf all earnings i make from the game is prob gonna get gambled on a online casino lol

[thin elbow]

floorprice of perfect arena stats (movementspeed excluded) is 80 bucks...

you can farm those for free

probably one of the easiest ways to make money currently in all of web3 gaming

[jovial vessel]

do they sell out quick

[thin elbow]

idk haven't sold one yet since i rather keep them for myself.
but i guess if you put one for 20-30$ they will go quick very likely... at least i saw people scooping them up for 30-40$

[jovial vessel]

Illuvium have guilds right?

[thin elbow]

can also just try to sell them for 80

[jovial vessel]

i think im gonna first try asking some guilds for some leftover fuel

[thin elbow]

you can't transfer fuel

but yes, there are some #1169004294473793597

[jovial vessel]

they could sell it to me for 0 right>

[thin elbow]

no, you can't sell fuel

[restive mist]

No, that is not how fuel works

Also, not sure many will willingly give you a bunch of fuel, when you've said here you will be gambling it all away on a casino

[thin elbow]

what you wana do with a small amount of fuel anyways... farm the t1 which have a floorprice of 11$ 😄

[restive mist]

Just grind a little, earn some money for battlepass or fuel and start building up

[jovial vessel]

lol not what i meant, i mean from the Illuviums jaja

[thin elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-halpert-face-yeah-ok-then-sure-gif-14215039757555920220

[restive mist]

https://tenor.com/view/what-trailer-park-boys-confused-stare-gif-3462465

[jovial vessel]

trust me im not that dumb whats 50 fuel gonna do lol

[restive mist]

Regardless, my advice for you would be to take part in the ecosystem. Work your way up, start with T0's and sell - or practice arena and take part in community tournaments for prizes etc.

[thin elbow]

the market for t1/T3 is way more saturated than the market for t0 illuvials...
either you go big and farm run after run to get the rare t4/5 or you just play for free and try to sell t0

especially grokkos... they are amazing tanks for leviathan and evven i'm looking out daily if i can snag some cheap ones... but people simply don't wana farm them

they rather comppete with all the other guys for selling the t1 😄

[jovial vessel]

im gonna farm about 50 Grokkos then only with the greater stat

[thin elbow]

but you need the perfect arena stats for those prices...
prices drop fast for every stat point you lose out.

[jovial vessel]

ill dm you the ones i think that are the best

if thats alright ofc? jajaja

[thin elbow]

i will lowball you... 2$ 🙃

[restive mist]

Better hurry up and grind those Grokko's out spoon... Leviathan ranked soon 👀

[thin elbow]

i just play fast and leave t0 out of the game 😄

[jovial vessel]

guess i won't dm then

[restive mist]

Same tbh, I'm a serial early game roller

[thin elbow]

i'm a serious early game leveler 😄

[jovial vessel]

my game plan is, farm a crazy amount of Dokas, sell, purchase a plot, and keep some cash on the side ifykyk

[restive mist]

https://tenor.com/view/im-up-on-this-level-up-here-and-all-my-friends-are-down-here-eric-cartman-kyle-broflovski-south-park-s4e6-gif-21961618

[jovial vessel]

W game plan

[restive mist]

Anythings gotta be better than begging guilds for leftovers I guess

https://tenor.com/view/tom-cruise-risky-business-risky-it-is-what-it-is-gif-17967100

[dreamy ivy]

What is everyone thoughts on getting all the weapons in overworld as I have just finished minting the last one and I was doing it just for something to do and because I like having a personal goal, but I was thinking? Was that just a waste of time or will the weapons be able to be used in MMO?

[sonic dagger]

the time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time

• Lennon

[topaz holly]

I noticed that the Brightland Steppes is full of nooks and crannies that are really good sniper positions.... I sure hope a Splatoon Style {Low Violence - Based} 1st person shooter can be made with the Regions of the Overworld! Has that ever been something that has been considered?

shard ore is more rare I swear

[languid silo]

Good morning

[glossy kettle]

anyone has a handy spreadsheet about all the illuvials?

[languid silo]

Not spreadsheet but a good overview

https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1uXPafD4_6P25MmCl7yxu4cIeO-T6HSLhN0D5SMBRW4E/mobilebasic#h.amqg7lnnufik

[thin elbow]

what info are you looking for exactly?

[glossy kettle]

I wanted to have like a checklist of illuvials so I can track my progress of which I own and which TPI they have etc

[thin elbow]

i didn't finish the affinity, calss, composite for t0/T2, but maybe that's something you are looking for ?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nytPqGp4FI7e6c5alZ5DW2qGMgJJ5WcfWB2tZwNgh94/edit?usp=sharing

but it's also all manual... like you have to input your stuff yourself...

[glossy kettle]

Looks good, needed something like this.

Thanks

[glossy kettle]

Yea I will just focus on important units anyway 😂

[thin elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/boss-gatsby-cheers-leonardo-di-caprio-great-gatsby-gif-17147450

[thin elbow]

yea, i usually have filtered out T0/T2 since they weren't any priority.

[lone spoke]

I made a simple sheet for tracking my Leviathan Illuvials, with just the TPI and Level, with a simple color-code, so it was easier to see which one I got. I made my own assessment of "perfect stat", so for some of them I would rate it as perfect if a Tatopee just miss some movement speed as an example. (I left out the levels from T0 in my sheet, and just record the TPI)

I have a blank template here..... (just left the Rai, Rai.-Lu, Rai-Lee as an example)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZwdejFJNeU5m-dBouT__Yh_3xTQEnd1-qNqLC4z5tjo/edit?usp=sharing

[ruby wagon]

can send you raw data in dm if you want:

maybe this is a feature @near pier can build, super basic but yet struggling to manage our illuvials for over a year

[tardy wind]

Any for mobile arena

[crude vortex]

Heyo

I heard something like ~2026

[near pier]

what am i building

[ruby wagon]

Illuvial collection manager

[vestal rain]

Hi guys, maybe already asked, wen MMO to try?

[restive mist]

It was supposed to have a playtest for a small group sometime in December. We will find out more details in the upcoming Townhall with Kieran on the 18th

https://discord.com/events/760344898200666112/1447823218667814953

[vestal rain]

Ok thanks

[topaz holly]

Hey @near pier Is it mostly known who all has each Especial #1 of each illuvial? only one I know of is Paz owns #1 Rhamphyre

[dense grove]

Torial owns Steve the #1 Sear.

@narrow junco
owns the #1 Titanor or at least he fused it, don't know if he still has it.

[near pier]

I mean you could find out

i wouldnt say its mostly known

[thin elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-black-sexy-hello-hola-looking-good-gif-4828187

[topaz holly]

@lusty blaze Hey friend, can I ask how you beat me?

Would you be willing to do a Post Game Interview?

[glad fox]

Any news about how little items will be calculated(cost to mine for example) and/or if mining items can stack/be sold in stacks -for overworld***?

If there is a post id like to read it

been a while since i read up on Illuvium

[topaz holly]

I am not doing anything exploitative, I want to make that clear, its going to be for personal investment Goals, and knowing who to contact when that time comes

[topaz holly]

When I come up in this community.... Its going to be like a rocket 🚀 and There will come a day when millions of dollars of investment is not out of the question

[topaz holly]

@worthy juniper Not sure if its still openly listed, but I remember correctly, #1 Rhamphyre is listed for around 999,000.00 USD worth of ETH? almost a cool million?

[topaz holly]

THIS is THE MOST EXCLUSIVE Social Status in ALL of Illuvium....! As equal to the Founders of the Game almost

Owning an Especial #1 of any Illuvial is THE TOP shelf Illuvium Social status

Its what I aspire to be a part of.... I would have been... BUT life had me on poverty road at that time....

[dark storm]

You can search it via illuvidex - search a specific illuvial and then sort via lowest espial and click on the Buy now so its NO and you will see who owns the no. 1

[topaz holly]

BUT I SWEAR To all of you publicly.... That I WILL be something big one day in Illuvium community like that and more!

[topaz holly]

yeah I just did, and oddly there are literally nothing close to 1 is available on ANY ILLUVIAL.... which is a good sign in a way

very good sign for the long term economy of the game

the LITERAL ONLY marketplace that makes any sense to use to offload the asset into to get paid $ from.... NOT ANYONE IS SELLING....

BULLISH!!!!

[livid edge]

Hi evening all, Is there a page that shows all the max energy abilities of illuvials?

[dark storm]

yes nothing listed at moment but at least you can work out who has what etc. you also got first holo and dh espial as well like these guys ... some of the lynx still show espial 0 instead of 1 ??? probably a bug but i know its definately the first 1 etc

[restive mist]

Hi Balistix, are you referring to each units omega ability?

[topaz holly]

huh? I dont understand what you mean here... all these Cats are high especial

[restive mist]

Perhaps not, these numbers are not the Espial. They are the mint number against every illuvial minted

You'd need to click into the lynx to see the espial

[narrow junco]

Yes I still do, along with a couple others. I also ate a bunch of the #1s in the fusion process...pretty stupid.

[livid edge]

Yes, thats the one 🙂

[restive mist]

There are a few ways to see an Illuvials specific Omega. I'll explain them all so you know the different ways, depending on what you're doing at the time

In game

• Right click an Illuvial, and then hold shift and hover over this little omega symbol. This will tell you the illuvials omega while you are in an encounter/arena match.

On the Illuvium website

• You can search for an illuvial, either owns you own (on your profile) , or on the illuvidex, scroll down once selecting it, and it'll tell you the omega here :

Or, you can go to Rich's website, and he has a list of every single illuvial, in order, with a quick write up of their omegas.
This way is fantastic as an overview for them all, but can take longer to find the specific illuvial you are looking for :

You can find that on Datakingz.net

You'll also just get to know each Illuvials omega over time, as you play for longer

Or, I know you play a lot of Arena Balistix, so when you are queing for a game, or beforehand when making your team, you can also do the same thing as I said before about shift clicking them and hovering the omega button, but instead, do it on the team planner while you are making your team!

@livid edge Let me know if you got any questions - a lot of info there I know

[livid edge]

Thanks !

[restive mist]

You're welcome! Feel free to @ me if you run into any other questions

[dense grove]

Ouch!! That is awful but so easy to do!

[livid edge]

Thanks buddy, was in match there and couldn't reply proper, thanks man, that's exactly what I need, for sure I'll ping ya with any q's 🙂

Rich's site looks the business 🙂 @near pier Thanks!

[restive mist]

Yeah, some great stuff on there!

[topaz holly]

6.7 On Chainbroker is a GOOD score for a Game that has Constantly having to survive a whole market implosion

look at all the other Crypto Games which have come and gone....

[near pier]

Needs some updating just been busy

[topaz holly]

I am going to ask to Have DataKingz be a sponsor of my stream someday when I get so bling bling and active that I have the Eyes on my stream to make it worth it.... I got your website in mind for my set of support companies to partner up with. I will show you... When I build it, you will see... Its cooking still

[topaz holly]

Heads up Rich, on your website, the Rai-Lee picture is bugged did you know that?

[near pier]

Yeah

As I said

I gotta fix a bunch

When I switched everything to aws

[snow fog]

i havent looked into anything illuivum in quite a while. i dont see the lands listed as items for sale on illuvidex anymore.. i still see the lands in my profile, but where can I go see what other lands are for sale now?

[topaz holly]

i look forward to seeing it complete! I will love to be ready to have it as a spoonsor when I get popular and worth the meager investment

I am IN IT Bachelors degree program at South University Online, On the Chancellors List, and building a business plan of my own, and will grow my Ambassador Tier Level Like a boss ! You Just wait and watch and see Rich! I dont give up Easily Ever either, I am still cooking too

[red geyser]

https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/zero/lands

This drop down menu lets you select the different things like ZERO where the land is

[topaz holly]

I look forward to the MMO release.... I hope we get some Alpha on a almost definitive timeline on WEN MMO! That way all the creators can Hype the release a bunch of times, and promote going into the Safari style OG Overworld and Catching as many Illuvials the Old Fashion way before it becomes Much much more difficult

The content ramp up for that will be a big project in and of itself if you ask me...

[languid silo]

I think we will get alot of details on this weeks Townhall with Kieran

[naive acorn]

@sudden dawn just received my illuvitar prints today! They are beautiful 😊 I would send a pic but I don’t think I have that status….anyway these are a piece of art

[sudden dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/bow-like-honor-respect-gif-14588358108868813407

Very glad to hear! ❤️

[thin elbow]

@near pier solve that Problem please
I wana See those platea

[near pier]

show us

[near pier]

https://tenor.com/view/permission-granted-lord-hood-halo2anniversary-the-master-chief-collection-gif-23618778

[short quail]

Guys, is mmo a reshape of Illuvium overworld or is it a new game?

[vague hound]

Reshape of the current OW

[short quail]

Thank you

[primal fern]

So the MMO this month, middle now should come in next days?

[vast spear]

Have a look: #💥〕leaks-discussion message

[hoary mist]

the "vertical slice" u mean? coz the game will never be released ths month or the next one eh

[marsh heron]

Cost me 24k elements each and 24 of each fuel. This is the most I've spent on minting. Has to be pretty rare right?

[unique ingot]

Does Attack speed still determine how fast the energy bar attack fills?

Example For Adorerdo Attack speed is still beneficial to give off more heals?

[split lintel]

Yes and no

Base attack speed does not affect it. Bonus attack speed certainly does

Eg if it gains extra from augments or synergies I believe that all has an impact. @steel finch ?

[steel finch]

Yes! Base attack speed determines energy gain per attack. Which always equal to 10 energy/s.

But, bonus attack speed makes you attack faster on the same energy gained per attack as the base.

So 10% attack speed bonus means 10% bonus energy gained as long as you are attacking.

[languid silo]

Have read the patch notes,have the meta locked in🫡

[thin elbow]

what's the new meta lars?
asking for a friend

[near pier]

Own illuvials

And be lvl 60

[languid silo]

Toxic berserker🫡

And all level 60

[thin elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/i-like-the-sound-of-that-jf-davis-i-think-you-should-leave-with-tim-robinson-that-sounds-good-to-me-that's-an-interesting-idea-gif-2974125876996340458

[thin elbow]

obviously

[near pier]

https://tenor.com/view/joesph-sikora-gif-25055853

[languid silo]

I kinda do,bit i dont like playing Psions or rouges.
Fighters is my jam Rich.

And i cant support people to death

[warm hill]

Was there an update to Illuvidex? Since yesterday I cannot do any offer or cancel some of them, but I was able to cancel others

I tried with Firefox (my usual browser), Edge and Chrome. And deleted cookies and all browsing data.

[languid silo]

Not that iam aware off,will check

[gleaming parcel]

Good morning Rangers! Looking for sponsorship for my new Illuvium journey.
I'm a competitive player, but my current Illuvials won't let me compete evenly. If you're willing to sponsor a team and split the rewards, let's negotiate.
DM me!

[narrow vigil]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[winged ridge]

OW is not working(

[thorny jacinth]

hello guys! hows everyone??

[languid silo]

Going great

[silk bridge]

It looks like the illuvidex has an offer bug

[languid silo]

There was bust an updated pushed,try logging out and make sure the game is updated on epic store

[languid silo]

Have flagged it internally

[winged ridge]

This is after the bug update

[languid silo]

Could try to reverify files on epic store launcher,did you send in a Bug report?

[tepid slate]

same issue

tried everything

[winged ridge]

So I sent a request with the error and a screenshot

[foggy inlet]

So we are playing under leviathan mode for ranked leader boards I am guessing this stars at reset later today

[rain moss]

how to chose what illuvials i wanna use in rankedd noww? since lvl anddd stats matter now

[wary merlin]

2 games Air Fighter Top 1 and 2 XD

this patch looks versatile

[thin elbow]

ingame when you go into arena, then teamplanner, then illuvial owwnership

[plain ridge]

temp planner is that bracket selection?

[vague hound]

Warfighter didn't build air or fighter units though. Both of us had strong build for sure, but we also have pretty good decks with good stat Illuvials and decent levels on them. Compared to yours and the rest of the lobby, that made the biggest diff by far.

[thorny jacinth]

thats nice holiday is coming any plans?

[languid silo]

Family time and dominate Rich is Arena

[warm hill]

At least I´m not getting constant offers from bots xD

[west lark]

In this game, I guess we also were the only guys to own Illuvials. I guess that's the main reason

Btw, congrats @vague hound !

[warm hill]

Also, it seems that prices are not updated between search screen and NFT screen. It may be related as it was done right 2 days ago.

[wary merlin]

Ah, so this update is adding Illuvials? I don't have any. Now it makes sense because I've been struggling with boards without understanding.

That took away my hope of continuing to play. Sad.

[thin elbow]

https://portal.illuvium.io/news/illuvium-arena-update-1160

[west lark]

Yes, now ownership matters. Even low TPI Stage 3 illuvials will be better than the "stock" that you get from the game.

[restive mist]

Play Overworld and collect some Illuvials, or get some from the marketplace! They are at incredibly cheap prices for a base set

[wary merlin]

This only makes sense in the long run, right? Or are you going to tell me that I can start today and have competitive decks in a week. I highly doubt it.

[restive mist]

You can. A lot of people play without TPI 100 illuvials' myself included

You can literally go buy a semi decent TPI deck of illuvials for a full comp, for less than like $10

[west lark]

You can for sure build a deck for 10 - 20 USD. Looking at the matches I had today, it's an easy TOP 4. Then if you put some time and effort in it you can surely go even higher

[wary merlin]

interesting

[restive mist]

Also, Overworld has been open for years, allowing capturing + levlling. Same with the marketplace and allowing trading/collecting that way - Anyone with a vision to play Illuvium for the long term should have had a collection in mind

[wary merlin]

I got 2 top 3s without anyone, but #2 and #1 were just way too healthy and there was no way to beat them.

[restive mist]

Alternatively Riki, tell me one of your teams, I'll set you up with a semi-alright bunch of 6-8 illuvials so you can play.

[thin elbow]

just have to stay away from the perfect stats and you can shop pretty cheap.
Not sure for how long tho... floors are thin even at the semi decent tpi decks

[dawn heart]

nice 👌

[west lark]

I saw you in one of the games. And that's literally what @restive mist is saying. I've been building my deck for like an year now, so don't be mad you can't compete. I still would encourage you to get some NFTs and give it a try

[wary merlin]

private message?

[restive mist]

People's MMR will naturally even out as time goes on as well - and you'll be matched with people at the same sorta level/illuvial power as yourself. (more player numbers will help this be accurate, also)

[wary merlin]

I didn’t get angry, I got sad and scared by the information, because I consider myself good at the game, competitive, I went to the world championship and went head-to-head, but I never went after illuvials.

[restive mist]

Sure. All I need is a screenie of your team you play a lot, and your passport wallet address, so I know what illuvials you'll need. I won't be able to send you anything crazy strong, but average enough thast you have some stat weights at least.
Happy to do so if it allows you to feel like you can play with at least some level of edge against no illuvials.

I will not dm you first, be very careful for scammers please ❤️

[wary merlin]

Perfect, I'm happy with the simple. At least for me to test my limits and see what I can do with it. I’ll check it here and get in touch soon.

[warm hill]

How is an owned, low TPI, Illuvial better than a high TPI, not owned, Illuvial? I don´t play Arena, it is just curiosity. I thought it was based on stats (summarized in TPI)

[thin elbow]

there are currently no "not owned" illvuials with a tpi.
if you use the standard illuvials they have no +stats

[warm hill]

So what did I misunderstand here?

[restive mist]

Time to finally play my level 60 Chukoondi

[warm hill]

Because of the lvl?

[restive mist]

Basically, if you don't own any illvuials at all, I believe they have 'no' stats.
He's saying that even owning low TPI illuvials gives you player power

My TPI 20 Jotun, will beat a player who owns no Jotuns at all in his/her wallet

And TPI 20 kinda sucks 😛

[warm hill]

So these Illuvials have 0 TPI if you don´t own one of the kind?

[thin elbow]

yes

[restive mist]

Is my understanding, yes.

Basically, owning an illuvial matters now

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-patrick-bateman-american-psycho-gif-7212093

[severe marten]

It won't let me enter OW after the update

[warm hill]

So I guess there is a way to select which Illuvial if you have several of the same type, with similar TPI, but you think that one "combo" of stats is better than the other even with 1 TPI lower?

[thin elbow]

yes

#🎮〕illuvium-arena message

[dawn heart]

#❓❗〕community-help message

[hexed wren]

So Narkesh seems like a very lucky guy, got his $50k for free. Next IPL champs will have to invest heavily🤔 Thats bullish!

[warm hill]

It seems that people are moving fast

I could save some from the madness

[thin elbow]

yea curious to see how it's going to play out.
I guess the next 24h many good deals will be sold.

[warm hill]

I wanted to know to quit all good TPI Illuvials I had on Illuvidex

But there is a bug with searchs and it isn´t updated, so difficult to do

So I have a new question for the Town Hall: Will this also be important in the MMO? If so, I want to keep some Illivuals for myself

[hearty dune]

to farm bots - not need have good/best deck

[thin elbow]

i didn't say that 🙂

but even if you look at it from that angle... surely you can farm bots with no illvials owned... but you get wrecked when there is a lobby with 5 people owning illuvials and all your grind will be gone 😄

but yea, everyone have to do whatever he thinks enjoys the most.

[hearty dune]

just buy this 2 units.
with no more random - build this augs for them and win everyone even with good deck

[thin elbow]

there are others than just these 2

and you also have to get them if you just own these 2

but it's for sure a strategy one could do, yea

[hearty dune]

all other just filers for this build.
even stage 2 penguin to strong in levi

[thin elbow]

no

and yes stage 2 penguin is pretty strong

the real mvp this patch i guess is this drone augment 😄

[vague hound]

This one is insane, especially in combination with a high dmg/bursty team like Mud, Rogues or Fire. They will kille most of the enemy team before invuln wears of and they take just the first bit of dmg.

[thin elbow]

can imagine it's strong with pretty much all builds except air.
imagina buying your synalph or ophisto time to cast for example...
it's for sure good for burst builds... but also good against them

[vestal coral]

The team will not longer be the best comp it will be the best comp that works for your owned illuvials

[vague hound]

Absolutely, especially also agains the bursty builds

[vestal coral]

We are going to see a lot more diverse play now

[hardy zinc]

Guys how does it works with higher stage Illumials? Will they get the higher TPI of the higher stage lvl if you own one? As you still need to upgrade as you don't get stage 2 or 3 on your board? Do we have some wiki to read how deck creating with Illumials works

[restive mist]

The TPI for an Illuvial will never change (unless you fuse it ofcourse)
But levelling it up will increase it's stat weights. So basically, higher level illuvials = stronger than lower level ones, but a better TPI illuvial will be more valuable to level up, comapred to a lower one

As you can see, my level 40 Ophisto with max omega TPI, has 156 omega power.

My level 60 Ophisto with max omega TPI, has 167 omega power

so through levels alone, it is 11 Omega power stronger

[thorny jacinth]

i see, also one quick question what can you get from being in the leaderboards??

[hardy zinc]

thanks but I mean in Battle Arena!

[restive mist]

Stage1, stage 2 and stage 3 versions of an illuvial, all have their own unique TPI + Levels.

A lesser grilla, and a greater grilla will have their own TPI, depending on the unique Illuvial

Does that answer what you was asking?

[hardy zinc]

Thanks I understand! But how does owning higher Stage/lvl the impact in Arena? As that is for me not clear! I understand that owning helps now as you get the TPI bonus but what about owning higher stage/lvl?

[restive mist]

Owning doesn't increase your TPI as such, but the difference is now that whatever you own, is what you willl use in the game!
Before, thios was not the case - so ownership now impacts your strength!

[restive mist]

Bascially, high TPI, high Illuvial Level , each for the unique stages (stage1, 2 and 3 individually) matters for your power levels when playing in Arena

[hardy zinc]

oke thanks for the help!

[hearty dune]

just meet penguin stage-2. lvl 40+-, with middle stats.
and he kill my full board lvl60 with perfect stats with just 2 vanguard buff.

[thin elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-jarvis-skill-issue-skill-issue-gif-24471438

[hearty dune]

probably need nerf him more that 1%? especialy with levi come to us

[thin elbow]

i agree it needs a nerf... but it's not as bad as you described

[hearty dune]

tell me that again, when your full stats titanor die in 4 hits

vs no stats/lvl penguin

[restive mist]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-michael-scott-not-superstitious-stitious-gif-12190365

[thin elbow]

it's not like your stage 2 mediocre stat pengiun can't die in 1 sec

[foggy inlet]

hmm game crashed with no option to rejoin hmmm

[hearty dune]

same for me

[foggy inlet]

looks clean and all my guys sparkle now lol

ill try one more i guess

[ripe geode]

there is a fix coming, devs found out some crashes happening due to the new recycler feature, probably what happened to you and fox

[rain moss]

who is kieranbrown in game?

[thin elbow]

@restive mist

i think

[rain moss]

ah

[restive mist]

Ya, it's me

[rain moss]

almost beat me ith 6 units xD

against 9

[restive mist]

Was a good game! Great Umbre replacement mate ❤️

[foggy inlet]

anyone who wants to play ranked better own there illuvails or get wrecked lol

[near pier]

i stand a chance now lol

[restive mist]

https://tenor.com/view/uhh-negative-wheezer-skymed-204-that's-a-negative-gif-8495504445417449083

[rain moss]

ye no point of playing ranked any more without maxedd illuvials

[foggy inlet]

no

[hardy zinc]

you need to add your Illumials in team planner or they are randomly picked anyway from your collection? How can you see ingame if you own it and got TPI bonus?

[languid silo]

click the Illuvial owned tab inside the team planner and you will be able to pick which illuvial the game pulls from

[restive mist]

You can add them in planner to assure the ones you want are chosen. If you do not choose any, they will automatically select your higher level one I believe.
check here to see hwo to add them in team planner - #🎮〕illuvium-arena message

As for seeing if they have TPI bonus and stats, right click them when in a game and hold shift

[near pier]

looky looky

[restive mist]

https://tenor.com/view/yeah-wink-michael-scott-happy-face-satisfaction-gif-24411526

[thin elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/the-chosen-jesus-leper-not-too-shabby-jesus-joking-gif-22243166

[foggy inlet]

nasty umbra

[near pier]

disgusting level 60s

im gonna go throw up

and do some ADRs

can i buy XP yet

[foggy inlet]

did you guys do the raffle already ?

any recents ones

[thin elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/noob-risitas-funny-meme-laughing-gif-18917081

[rain moss]

16 points for 3rd place?

i geet max 13 for 1st, andd lose 20-30 for 5th.....

[hearty dune]

ye. just play new patch. and 7 games in a row same place in every game. a bit boring

[rain moss]

howw many point you get for 1st place?

[thin elbow]

was it different before patch?

[hearty dune]

13 as everyone who higher that 2k

[hearty dune]

ye. sometimes bots contest. or you meet strong umbre etc.
now you need just stage-2 units to win most of time

[thin elbow]

why you don't get contested now?

[hearty dune]

it's dothen matter.
bots die fast. and i can win even with stage-2 units.
just click lvl-up to 8-9 and put something shop give you

[thin elbow]

yea that's gona be changed

#🎮〕illuvium-arena message

[hearty dune]

not think they up bot's to much. it will be still afk game for me.
or if they buff them to lvl50+ - then most of players never get 1-3rd place

[restive mist]

Just scrolling through some Drone skins on the illuvidex... some of these are beautiful! and they are so cheap rn

@sudden dawn I know collection rewards and such are a bit of a 'not yet' kind of subject rn, but is there any plans to include things like Drone skins, ranger skins, drone blasts etc to them?
some sort of bonus, or even just an easy way to see which ones you own + which ones you're missing, at a glance?

Appreciate it if you don't have much to say on it

I'd love to work through owning all the drone skins and ranger skins, but rn it's a crazy amount of effort to see which ones I still need, manually

[rain moss]

arena preety much sucks now, you just need high lvl illuvials, no skill or anything else and you 1st

wouldd needd to spend how many, 1-2 months to lvl all illuvialss, if not more

would need to spend thousands of dolla to lvl them up now in ow

how much less xp gain from leviathan now compared to ow?

in general ida iss preety good, just hard to lvl i guess

[foggy inlet]

now we just need a rental platform going

[hearty dune]

so, my colossus die in 3 hit.
still think fine unit? he doing 50k dmg. any other unit in team - 3k+-

[thin elbow]

#💬〕general message

[hearty dune]

i'ts even worse as i say. how 1 broken unit can't be nerfed for more that half year?
how 27gold unit can solo kill whole enemy team worth 300 gold?

[foggy inlet]

Drspoon are you illuvails leveled up to bro

sick lol

[thin elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/just-a-little-bit-curtis-james-jackson-iii-50cent-just-a-lil-bit-tiny-bit-gif-17901415

[foggy inlet]

ill stick to zero lol

[thin elbow]

nono, come back

[foggy inlet]

i was going to bring the pain but all your guys are beefed up lol

I am like 0 in 3 vs you

[thin elbow]

don't get discouraged by me... i've probably one of the strongest collections out there...

[foggy inlet]

i posted some smack in zero chat i feel better now lol

yes your collection is nice for sure

[thin elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/mando-way-this-is-the-way-mandalorian-star-wars-gif-18467370

[rain moss]

in my oppinion arena should stay same as bfore for pros and tournaments, leviathan to be only for something like paid entry and top 3 get rewards from it

[restive mist]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpson-nerd-yelling-insult-gif-7884166

[thin elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/henry-cavill-gif-22799261

[desert thicket]

Is there any chance of a full ranked reset coming in the near future? I'm sitting in the Top 50 of Arena Ranked but I know I for sure don't have a competitive team to stay there on this new patch with ownership.

Kinda want to start from scratch again and see how far I can get with my own Illuvials

[restive mist]

https://tenor.com/view/chefs-kiss-french-chef-perfect-dish-excellent-food-perfection-gif-20341505

[thin elbow]

good question... usually resets are on last thursday of a month.
But unlikely leaderbaord gets a reset on 25th december...
@steel finch might be able to answer that

[restive mist]

Honestly not a bad idea now that the ladder weights are probably way off due to the personal power bonus some people have

[foggy inlet]

I wonder how many in the top 100 own their illuvails

[restive mist]

will also tag @inner topaz to see if he has any answers on that, or can share any future plans for a reset.
Remember to tune into the Townhall tomorrow though! I'm sure there will be plenty of alpha

[hearty dune]

reset change nothing. even with ownership - who play more will get place higher.
untill this bot system will not changed

[restive mist]

Gaining more players is a constant effort. And fundamentally, it will ofcourse change things.

[topaz holly]

Odd discord is not loading on my PC

Thats an odd sign

[restive mist]

Discord often has funky moments on PC ngl. I have it every once in a while

[topaz holly]

What do I do...?

Its like I find the app exe file in my start menu even, and it refuses to start

[livid edge]

gg @restive mist 🙂 they all your own illuvials?

[restive mist]

Yeah haha! I have played a lot of Overworld 😛

[livid edge]

I have some from season 1 or 2 but missing alot, so i cant put a proper team together, but I done ok with with random picks 🙂

[restive mist]

Any specific Illuvial you dont have even 1 of, that I can help you out with?

[livid edge]

Thanks man! na your ok, I'm missing many, maybe more time needed in OW, I had a run around last day when arena was down,.. same path as before worked well for me... If maybe I'm stuck in future for sure I'll give you a shout 🙂 but seems arena still playablewithout arsenal of Illuvials

[restive mist]

For sure give me a shout; happy to help dude

And gg! See you in there again soon 😉

[livid edge]

Appreciated 🙂

[steel finch]

Tomorrow will confirm, but high chances we trigger the hard reset tomorrow to align with today's patch. And not perform the end of month hard reset.

So essentially we anticipate the eom hard reset to tomorrow.

For patch cohesion.

[restive mist]

@desert thicket

[livid edge]

Always a legend man, I remember first season you gave me a t3 Alphie... gave me tonne of points nearly x2 what i had at the time. like i say legend!

[thin elbow]

@desert thicket

[restive mist]

Hahah lets go dudeee!

[foggy inlet]

Oh man I have a great idea. Lets give the bots max stat illuvails and level 60s LOL

[hearty dune]

nice news. so i can get back my top-1

[restive mist]

https://tenor.com/view/no-nope-nah-no-way-please-no-gif-16328372

[foggy inlet]

round 1 and 2 getting wrecked by the bot

[restive mist]

Woah woah woah....

the bot has a name bro

@languid silo

[normal python]

https://tenor.com/view/damn-gif-20500871

[shell crest]

Once I withdraw my existing ILV/ETH pool can I directly stake it into the V3 vault or do I have to split the pool, transfer to base and then create a new pool to stake in the V3 vault? Thanks

[shell crest]

Are there directions on how to move my V2 ILV/ETH to the V3 vault. I have read over the how to directions and I do not see a clear explanation. Thanks

Ok, thanks. What is the best way to split my ILV/ETH? Been a long time since I have done this.

I appreciate the information but I don’t see the need to accept the request.

[restive mist]

All the info you need should be in this Bridge guide - https://portal.illuvium.io/help-center/guides/stake-ilv-on-the-base-network

[shell crest]

I have read this multiple times but I do not see instructions on how to split my existing ILV/ETH. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Not sure what i am missing. Here is what my wallet looks like after withdrawing my LP from V2. And how it looks on Aerodome.

[wispy kindle]

Follow this guide for SLP removal
#🥩〕staking message

[shell crest]

Thank you very much!! That worked!

[wispy kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/bear-hats-off-respect-bye-bye-gif-8633553

[rain moss]

is something wrong with ranked rewards?

can get 2 ilv, but i was at 27-28th place, should be ablee to get 4 if it say 22$ for that placement no?

[restive mist]

do you own the premium battlepass?

[rain moss]

yes

[rain moss]

ah no its ok, i see now there is westing time for 1 month

o if i would go claim now i will get only half? what about other half? next month or wouldnt be able to claim then?

[restive mist]

No, if you claim it early, you forfeit the remaining. Or you can claim in fuel immediatly, and receive a 20% bonus value.
But if you want the full amount of ILV, you need to wait for it vest fully, or claim ONLY half today

[rain moss]

i se, it changed a bit from before few months

[rain moss]

when will auto drone run leaderboard start again? could use fuel to catch some illuvials, or maybe go in ow to get some goodies

[desert thicket]

Wonderful! Thank you for the update!

Thank you both for letting me know @restive mist @thin elbow

[sullen lagoon]

OW still dead it seems

[tardy wind]

Good morning

[inner topaz]

We are in the process of updating rewards and tournaments to align with the mode change. Once we agree on the rewards we will do a reset. Likely at the end of the month when Battlepass season ends

[green carbon]

Mannnnnnn this feels sooo good! This latest patch is really good stuff 🙂

6 or 7 games straight now, not a hiccup or crash or glitch. Using my own caught and trained teams.. Man so good. Great work guys.

[rugged geyser]

@restive mist so now in order to receive rewards, i have to get the battle pass and play ranked(which is ownership now)?

[glass parcel]

what so now we can use how own illuvials in arena?

[languid silo]

Always needed the battlepass,bu now you can use your own illuvials in ranked.Levithan has been merged with Ranked.

[rugged geyser]

Great!
Wasn't buying the battle pass, but now that my illuvials matter, i definitely will 🫡

[languid silo]

Played a few matches yesterday,have a few gaps in my rooster i need to fill.
Feels great to finnaly use our own.

12,5 hours until the Townhall with Kieran

https://discord.com/events/760344898200666112/1447823218667814953

[rugged geyser]

Yeah.
It was getting frustrating to have spent thousands without using them.
I payed $600 for a 300% jokull 😁

[normal python]

This is the game I always wanted illuvium to be. My illuvials, my team and my time and effort now reflected in my performance

Illuvium is now a web3 game and I'm loving it! 🥳

[rain moss]

battlpass last for how long, 3months from buying or 3 months from start of battle pass? maning if i bought last week it will still expire at the end of thee emonth?

[languid silo]

Battlepass season 1 will come to a close end of this month.
It started September 15

Make sure to catch the townhall later today we might get some timeline for battlepass 2

[hardy zinc]

🤩

Hi! Related to this and new Arena where Illumials you own are important and with that lvl of them. Perhaps as idea that burning them can give you XP you can use to lvl up other Illumials? I would for sure do that as I like to play but lag the time to grind massively a lot hours per day!

Of course this need to be balanced as Whale protection and preserve time players now have invested to get lvl 60 Illumials

[steel finch]

Yes, we are seriously exploring this

[hardy zinc]

🤩 🔥 👍

[thin elbow]

https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1451166872098570366

[normal python]

Personally I think we should not do this. Burning illuvials should be a feature we use strategically and sparingly.

If you bring in burning for experience I and many others will burn 90% of our collections overnight. That is not healthy for the ecosystem.

What is trash to me is a cheap entry point for someone new. But they won't get the chance to buy it because I'll burn it 🤷‍♂️

[steel finch]

But this would balance itself out no? Based on demand from new players / what you can get from selling it / what you get from burning it for XP.

I don't see how it is bad to give owners the option to adjust their collection as they please.

In my eyes, what feels really bad is to have shitty TPI illuvials I know I won't use in the game, and have completely nothing to do with them other than aspire to sell them some day? Plus theres the chance that a new starter will rather pay to open their own packs and push their luck than purchase a shitty TPI kukka from the marketplace.

[clear crystal]

When will be new season overworld bountyhunt ? It was stopped before 18 dec

[normal python]

I get the intuition, but no I don’t think this actually self-balances in practice.

XP curves are exponential. For burning to meaningfully progress a level 50+ Illuvial, the XP reward has to be large enough that it dominates selling. Otherwise the feature is effectively useless.

If burning becomes the dominant value path though, players will burn first and ask questions later. That drains low end supply, raises entry costs, and forces onboarding into a pure gacha funnel.

That’s not a player behaviour issue. It’s an incentive issue. If the only real utility of low end Illuvials is converting them into XP, the market function of those assets collapses. Drone runs aren't a solution to this either, because people go to the market to buy specific illuvials to complete teams. The market and drone/OW runs fulfill two different purposes.

I agree that having dead assets feels bad. I just don’t think XP is a stable sink for solving this issue. In fact, it's going to cause more issues than it aims to fix imo.

[sullen lagoon]

Is OW in maintenance or something? It's been a whole day without working

[thin elbow]

devs are working on a fix for ow

[foggy inlet]

can we get a townhall countdown LOL

[normal python]

What you should be doing imo is boosting experience the more copies you own of that illuvial.

Essentially staking your trash illuvials to boost your best. That's a significantly healthier approach imo

[last mountain]

Same here

[hoary mist]

Agree, like a collection system where if you have (example) 5 atlas and if you decide to burn them all to fill up that specific collection you will gain some perks (XP boost, stat boost, rewards like crates where you can find valuable items etc.

[hearty dune]

and progression: 5-10-20-50-100-never end

[full rampart]

after a long time im back and crafting stone infused rare gems takes way too long, any advice?

[normal python]

Yeah except I'd rather we stake than burn because it's reversible.

Say you stake your 10 atlas and now you're main atlas is getting 2x exp. But everyone else is also doing the same now and the floor price of atlas is shooting up. Now you have to decide, keep staking or cash in. That's more fun and more importantly more healthy as the community manages the economy through this feature

[normal python]

Surely this is better than burning everything to the ground @steel finch

I know burning is popular but that's because it's the obvious choice. There's more interesting (and I'd argue better) ways you can solve this issue

[dense grove]

Staking is an interesting idea and could be tied into Illuvial gyms for Zero.
I am still not convinced that levels should be achieved in a way other than giving Illuvium money through grinding or expensive XP boxes but I like the idea of staking better than burning.

[normal python]

Love the IZ angle and the potential it offers for such a feature

I just want to protect the current supply of illuvials until we at least get to set 2. Imagine gauntlet goes mobile and gains 50k players all wanting to build their own teams. But we've burnt everything 😅. The friction that would cause to onboarding

[sonic dagger]

what will happen when the player is done with leveling the main atlas? 10 atlas will hit the market again? and at the same time everyone else will do the same and the floor price of atlas crashing down

[dense grove]

I agree we need to protect current supply for the future and also that the worst case scenario at this time would be to have stats mean nothing. levels mean everything, with people burning all their Illuvials to offer high levels for sale. We do not have enough players to buy them all right now and we don't want the best Illuvials in the game crashing in price or everyone to have equal Illuvials again with no reason to want to spend money to get more.
Progression from staking would have to be super slow. That way people wouldn't feel like their TPI 12 Atlas was totally useless but it also wouldn't flood the market with high level Atlases and crash the market.
It also feels better psychologically to have your Atlas that is chilling in a stake making only minor gains where as to have to burn 20 Atlas to make a minor gain would feel like you were ripped off.

[hoary mist]

we do not have players at all

So we are speculating bout possible future..not the actual situation

[normal python]

I don’t think that assumption holds. Rational players don’t finish one asset and then immediately unwind their entire position and call it a day.

What’s far more likely is rotation, not liquidation: once an atlas is level-capped, players redirect staking to the next one with the intent to later sell or rent a max-level asset. That keeps supply concentrated in high-value, scarce illuvials, not dumped back onto the market as low-quality surplus.

Selling only becomes attractive when demand materially outpaces supply. Without that imbalance, there’s no incentive for a mass exit, especially when ongoing performance, rewards, and rental yield favour staying invested.

On top of that, level caps can always increase over time. Burning or dumping everything to chase short term opportunities may leave you exposed if progression ceilings move. Being the player who liquidated their experience farm right before that happens is a bad position to be in.

[normal python]

True, but this only reinforces my position. Right now illuvium should be only focusing on systems with dials that can be calibrated to meet the needs of the community whatever it's size. Not sinks like burning that can't be undone

[dense grove]

No business should build with only today in mind though. All systems in place have to be built for the future and shouldn't be short-term fixes.

[normal python]

https://tenor.com/view/this-gif-4354544

[sonic dagger]

you are assuming most people will keep stacking max leveled atlas. Only possible if demand is high and sustained from new players

there are prob like 50 players

sorry, 52

[vapid citrus]

bots

[thin elbow]

if there are no new players, we doomed anyways

[normal python]

Yeah if you're saying running a f2p game in a web3 environment is a bad idea you'll get no argument from me.

Ranked gauntlet was the best worst idea illuvium ever had 🤷‍♂️

Damn, just think of all the leaderboard and IPL rewards wasted these past 12 months

[wispy kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/gg-gif-27092095

[normal python]

Illuvium was always structurally a whale game. The problem is that going F2P delayed the ownership loop long enough that players lost confidence and moved on.

I never played for rewards. I play to watch my over powered polar bear eat the entire enemy team.

Illuvium have never understood this, they don't understand why people want to play their game and that's why we don't have players 🤷‍♂️

[glossy kettle]

Agree. With enough players, the whales with crazy decks will basically play in their own "league" and then the casuals with meet with other casuals more

We're just lacking proper matchmaking due to low player base

And 8 players per match makes it even harder. With ascendant its a way different story

[winged ridge]

Yes, but the rewards, this is primarily what attracts players and captivates new ones, it seems to me that IPL should have been on Levithan to move the market from its place, instead 20 stable players shared all the rewards and did not spend a single $ on it, it should be So if you want to fight for big prizes then be ready to invest, if you want to have fun playing and get a prize then go to free mode

[sonic dagger]

it counts bots too?

[glossy kettle]

Tournaments rewards should be split into 70% leviathan 30% normal mode or something. So every player finds a reason to join tournaments

[winged ridge]

There must be clarity: invest money, participate and get big prizes, play for free, get small prizes, it can't be otherwise.

[normal python]

Did rewards really attract players though? We've been giving out rewards since the OW airdrop days and I see little evidence that it's worked.

[sonic dagger]

i mean if we burn illuvials we dont need new players as many as we would if we just stake the illuvials. burning should give more lasting effect

[winged ridge]

I would say 90-10 so that the free mode is like a training ground and a nice bonus

[dense grove]

"I never played for rewards. I play to watch my over powered polar bear eat the entire enemy team."

I can't like this comment enough.
This right here. I didn't spend the time and money to get Lars my Rhamphyre to get rewards, I did it to watch him burn it all to the ground.
We got drawn in by the Illuvials and they have been stuck on the back burner. There is so much opportunity to make them important that hasn't been taken.

IPL should have been primarily Leviathan so that the players who get that feeling just turn around and put it back into the loop.

[glossy kettle]

I think the highest spike we had was during that bounty hunt thingy where everyone was hunting ophistos like crazy. I wonder why we didnt do anything similar to that

[winged ridge]

How long have there been rewards in OW? When real players started finding out about it, everything was covered up, only farms and bots made a lot of money

[sonic dagger]

because good games dont need rewards

fun is the reward

[hearty dune]

but for fun we need new patches. with new regions/units/mechanics in game.
yes - we got patches, but small balance patches.
for example in dota - you got big patch every half year. and small every 3 month.
in wow - you have new season with new content/raid/dungeons - every half year.

and we stay without big changes especially in OW for how long?

[normal python]

I played more in the past 12 hours than I have in the last 4 weeks and I enjoyed every minute of it. Ownership makes the game infinitely more fun.

[winged ridge]

This was a problem with a free game where bots were actually cutting potential players, this should have been done when the entrance to the card was paid like today 899 fuel and believe me, there would have been new players, I personally brought two but they covered everything up and they were disappointed, if they make IPL according to the OW leaderboard where every week it's a point for a place, then believe me it will be a crazy battle

[sonic dagger]

OW was built as a gamified deck opening. and u slap autobattler into it. i dnt think it's supposed to be fun

[sonic dagger]

good for you if owning makes it fun or more fun

i just dnt feel that way, especially after i started playing web2 games again

[foggy inlet]

way easier when you own your illuvails and have some exp on them

defiantly need a better match making system may max of 2 bots per game or something

[winged ridge]

In my opinion, I could have given OW an incentive, but it's too late to talk about it. We're taking away the Bounty Hunt leaderboard so that the player doesn't constantly play on the same map. Every week, for a certain place, they give points in the monthly leaderboard. There are prizes for each place. There is an annual table with big prizes so that players played constantly, you can also burn illuvials for them, they also give you points in the table, and this would give a good profit to the game and there would be no mass of illuvials on the market, they would be burned and bought for ransom, the game would also receive% and this year OW would already have stable hundreds of players, the fuel burned would be a huge amoun

With the requirement that a player who burns illuvials and participates in the leaderboard was prohibited from receiving more than 5 illuvials per month from other players by transfer to avoid farmers, and if they intentionally transfer illuvials, he writes a complaint and submits a wallet from which he will be burned and they will be blocked

[normal python]

I pitched this Idea once about illuvials earning medals for making it to the IPL final. Just a UI thing I'm not suggesting staple it to their fur 😅. But just imagine how cool it would be to have your own illuvial in a leviathan IPL come away with a medal that stays with them forever.

[winged ridge]

The reason is simply that everyone knows how to play OW in one way or another, and Arena is quite difficult and it is simply unrealistic for a new player to compete with already experienced players, so unfortunately, IPL was a big mistake, as well as the fact that it brought the team 0$.

[hoary mist]

A lot of high level strategists here eh?..Jesus this game can t fail with all these smart brains

The carousel brought 0$ too and was time and money spent, right?

[winged ridge]

What are you talking about? What do you mean by carousel?

[hoary mist]

everybody knows how to play OW coz there is nothing to do beside running left and right shooting at harmless mobs

[hoary mist]

hahahaha ok..here we are

[winged ridge]

Do you mean the wheel of fortune that was associated with the arena?

[hoary mist]

https://tenor.com/view/farewell-funny-goodbye-goodbye-home-alone-home-alone-movie-gif-7452551106276191815

[foggy inlet]

arena and overwold blah blah everyone's favorite game is Zero

[dense grove]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-creasing-forehead-the-office-office-absolutely-gif-11888908

[sonic dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-laugh-laughing-gif-10107777875102130969

[foggy inlet]

drspoon where you at bro i am on a win streak come get some

hmm I wonder if this new arena version will let me play zero at the same time

[meager smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-is-going-to-work-he-is-going-to-work-gif-20967906

[foggy inlet]

no hektor8989 sheesh

[thin elbow]

yea

[thin elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/nom-gif-27567486

[silk bridge]

I'm so glad that people are enjoying leviathan, I was worried that only the big collection owners would have fun

[foggy inlet]

All that time of the OW is paying off I am destroying everyone but that drspoon guy LOL

[silk bridge]

By the way I'm offering $15 for your Greater Air Grokko 🙂

[winged ridge]

There should be something like a Diamond Gold Silver league and it will be based on rating so that players with weaker hands compete with their peers and move to a higher league by winning, then there will be a balance and the player will buy or catch this or that illuvial as needed.,

[hoary mist]

We did some test last year with the "Divisions"

was fun to see people playing regardless of their LB ranking and get rewarded based on their "league".

[balmy furnace]

Any school illuvium ? i m top 15 arena, call me dm

[foggy inlet]

town hall 52 minutes woot

[languid silo]

https://tenor.com/view/gif-gif-8593213374087197675

[near pier]

shit lol i thought i had 2 hours

[foggy inlet]

get your hair done quick bro lol

[languid silo]

#📣〕announcements message

https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/966960014491258890

[vapid citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-evil-riiight-dr-evil-gif-8639532886603195057

[languid silo]

We already have a Dao up and running.

[brave ocean]

did I miss the riisk to earn ideas form?

[languid silo]

Havent been released yet

[topaz holly]

where is that feedback form?

[near pier]

https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1451342958379925624

[crimson egret]

missed the townhall, did i miss anything?

[thin elbow]

yes... the townhall

[vague hound]

I used to play another crypto game, Lost Relics, and it gave me an idea for another Illuvial burning mechanism. They faced an oversupply of gold, and had to make gold sinks to prevent the inflation spriralling out of control. One of those gold sinks were a weekly raffle. You could buy 1 ticket (max 10 tickets) for 1k gold. Every week 10 winning tickets were drawn, rewarding different prizes. This could be directly applied here too, you just buy tickets with illuvials instead. Prizes could be anything from ILV, fuel, cosmetics, disks etc. Could probably think of several ways to prevent ppl from only using low tier and low stage Illuvials to buy their tickets. E.g. this week your bundle of 10 tickets could costs 10 T1 S1, 2 T2 S2, 3 T3 S1, 1 T4 S3 and 1 T1 S1.

Another thing from that game - and many others - that work well, are titles. Those could be made as NFTs too, so they become tradable on the marketplace. However, select ones could become account bound. Lets say Narkesh got the title "OG IPL Champion", it would feel wrong if he sold it to some scrub who couldn't even beat a lobby of bots if his life depended on it. In MMOs especially, flexing your shiet is just a big thing for many people, gear, archievements, titles.

[undone atlas]

There are no active rewards in the overworld yet.

[vapid citrus]

Thinking about the illuvials in the lions den more... I don't really like the idea. It's equivalent to like discord marbles race... it's mindless and souless.

I would much rather have buy in gauntlet sit n gos like poker style

[topaz holly]

Here is my proof of completed form 🫡

[hearty dune]

don't like idea - vote against it. that simple

[sonic dagger]

you dnt like gambling?

[hearty dune]

nope. I like to rely on my own strength and knowledge.
on time i can spend by follow my target. and full random - it's not about me.

[vapid citrus]

totally agree

@plain delta risk to earn would be better suited for poker style sit n gos for gauntlet

illuvium take their cut per match

[topaz holly]

Won't there be a certain amount of placement skill involved? 🤔

[hearty dune]

which skill you talk about?
put best Jokull you have in raffle - coz it's best 1-1 illuvial which can heal himself?

[topaz holly]

Yeah but in a free for all, your not just 1 v 1.... its a madhouse .... you ever watch WWF ? WwE?

Like a cage match.... Everything else is in there too....

[hearty dune]

even so. in my minds, only illuvial which can heal himself/doing dmg - can alive until end.
is it anyone else, except bear in your mind?

[topaz holly]

What it will do is inject some liquidity and some desperately needed VOLUME in the Marketplace and the Illuvium ecosystem as a whole

Because people looking to win 🏆 some kitty... will invest that 6 dollars 💸 to get a chance at winning it....

[hearty dune]

other burning ideas was better, in my opinion. this one is not excited for me

[topaz holly]

Gives 1 more reason to purchase low Trait purity Illuvials, to send them into the Grinder for a chance at winning more Illuvials and prizes , I think its risky, yes, bold ! ABSOLUTELY 💯 But what if bold steps are what is needed right now ?

It fuels ⛽️ the content creator's out here who are thirsty for content concepts that can be followed like constantly and never get old or repetitive. Because each game will be totally different

[hearty dune]

noone will do it.
probably for 1-2 raffle. but when after every Hungry games win 90 TPI illuvial - noone continue doing that.
yes, it will be hype for something new, but not so long as you think

[topaz holly]

If its done with an EMPHASIS ON maximizing watching 👀 as well. Spectator mode that gives auto replay button or something like that...

[topaz holly]

Does TPI really matter that much in a battle where every Illuvial is against you? There will have to be a Marqi In game that shows how many people are looking for Battle Rumble Match. IT certainly will be interesting to see 👀 it developing and see what happens

[sonic dagger]

yea i guess because cambria is doing well with risk to earn aka gambling

web3 is really good at mislabelling lol

[hearty dune]

probably you miss conception. or i understand wrong.
it will be batle-royale with big map, and all illuvials around it.
it will be not 10 second fight in the middle of arena

[hearty dune]

i'm not web-3 player, so probably my mind different.

[topaz holly]

Thats even better! So it will be all Over World fights? Like In the OW?

[hearty dune]

i gues so. map become lower, and you move to the middle

[topaz holly]

That makes Strategic Planning, and placement TOTALLY IMPORTANT 🤔🙀👨‍🏫

[hearty dune]

but you can't controll it

random. you have only 1 choice - which illuvial use

[topaz holly]

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