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narrow jetty
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have you ever had an opposing opinion?

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even now, i dont feel completely safe speaking my mind here

sage falcon
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I could forgive the sjud ban, to an extent, but it’s what that leads to which is what’s gotten us here where people are being banned for being critical. The team using weak and loose reasons such as ā€˜suspected’ of being an alt account to completely ban them, therefore deleting all their messages

zinc arch
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Think back to lehalel and runway conversations in the beginning

dusty plank
narrow jetty
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nobody threatened to doxx anyone, thats fake news

lusty mantle
narrow jetty
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ive seen the transcripts

sage falcon
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Post the screenshots

narrow jetty
sage falcon
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Post the screenshots

thorny bloom
dusty plank
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You'd be wrong, but you're entitled to that.

narrow jetty
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he literally didnt know bens info dude, he COULDNT doxx him even if he wanted to

lusty mantle
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That's not what he said

narrow jetty
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dude i have the screens in front of me

dusty plank
narrow jetty
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he said ben lied on his resume cause he wasnt involved in high level TFT development

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he didnt know ben personally, just knew he was lying about his work expericen

narrow jetty
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dont shoot the messenger

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btw that other guy, hughwizzy is also banned now for 2 hours

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so i guess he kinda proved his point

dusty plank
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Listen, I'm 100% for open governance, and I do think he should be allowed to run, but I think anyone rational can understand that including people in the community who have made threats like that is not an option. It's not on the people who threats are being made against to know whether the person is serious, or has the information.

It's on the person making those threats to not get drunk and threaten to do that kind of thing.

narrow jetty
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there have been no threats... thats the whole point

clever kettle
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this is not a ban, please use the correct terminology

narrow jetty
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so now having "a one sided conversation" grants you a time out?

clever kettle
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sure, if you want to twist my word go ahead, i'll go back to work

brittle ginkgo
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Wow that seems really out of line to me

narrow jetty
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between the fake narrative of sjud making threats, rich asking him to not run basically, tsg not inviting him to the panel... i mean draw your own conclusions

zinc arch
narrow jetty
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tsg "forgot" to invite just one guy

zinc arch
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Do you know for sure he wasn’t invited?

narrow jetty
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total coincidence

brittle ginkgo
# narrow jetty here you go

Bringing up Walking Feather is old news. @near pier you don’t think WF would ever run? Or get votes? Wildfire guild has entirely moved past that saga, just so that is entirely clear to everyone here that we have no connection to her whatsoever

narrow jetty
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im speaking to the guy right now lol

lusty mantle
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Probably because all people running are invited in sub threads and clearly SJUD was not in that theead

narrow jetty
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you told him its a bad look

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what does that even mean?

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"the crown thinks its a bad look that a member of the peasantry is running for council"

near pier
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WF could run and I couldn’t stop her that was the point lol

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Would I not like it sure

zinc arch
near pier
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I never told him not to run I said some ppl don’t like it

lusty mantle
near pier
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And he got himself banned a year ago

lusty mantle
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Ah it happens on Discord?

narrow jetty
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well maybe its time to unban the guy and see if he behaves for the election

near pier
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Ah I thought you were just referring to the thread

lusty mantle
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Well I assume Tarren just invited the people in the thread

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he prolly forgot

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so I pinged him

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problem solved

near pier
narrow jetty
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the election is just a week or something

zinc arch
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Jaganite for council

narrow jetty
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you can reban him after that if you see a reasno

viral notch
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sad jaga always get tagged for no reason

zinc arch
narrow jetty
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but if youre a true dao you should let everyone who made a serious attempt at council get the chance

viral notch
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🤣 🤣

narrow jetty
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i mean you saw his resume and its no joke

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especially compared to most other candidates

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who used chatgpt to write some answers lol

zinc arch
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If I ran

narrow jetty
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yeah but you would have been smart enough to remove the chatgpt tags :

zinc arch
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šŸ˜‚

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Thanks for the confidence

potent glacier
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I was requested to share this photo.... šŸ‘€

lusty mantle
potent glacier
tribal gyro
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GM but seems like general chat chose violence today

lusty mantle
near pier
viral notch
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general woke up wrong side of the bed huh

dark ridge
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No neend to save PvP it's already on good hands šŸ™Œ

humble trail
narrow jetty
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it said something like: chatgpt cant answer the question it asked itself

potent glacier
# tribal gyro GM but seems like general chat chose violence today

Hey Tailess - not so much Violence... I think it's more along the lines of FAIRNESS....

SJUD is not getting a fair shake for his campaigning and interview opportunities for Gaming SubCouncil

I am speaking on the behalf that EVERYONE deserves to have a voice for governance. Let the votes from the DAO speak on behalf of the community...

lusty mantle
zinc arch
narrow jetty
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Provide an overview of your perspective on Illuvium's governance procedures and describe how you intend to engage with them to enhance the DAO.

Chat GPT had no answer to this Question generated by chat GPt itself.

viral notch
narrow jetty
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its updated now, but i still had the text copied

zinc arch
lusty mantle
zinc arch
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Is it too late to run for council?

lusty mantle
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Yes

zinc arch
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Oh well

narrow jetty
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next time šŸ˜„

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also, shouldnt there be a cap of 1 player per guild

outer hull
potent glacier
narrow jetty
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for example: viper and caveman both from polemos

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do we really want 2 polemos members on a 5 man panel?

lusty mantle
narrow jetty
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especially when you can essentially buy your way in

zinc arch
near pier
viral notch
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whats a 'sub council' and how is it different from the normal ones

lusty mantle
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Best man for the job should get the position, doesn't really matter what guild they are in?

zinc arch
lusty mantle
narrow jetty
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they have their own interests as a guild

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for example they have a ton of lands

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their voting could be not independant

outer hull
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leave the guild for voting period, then join again after voting ends. It would be easy to dodge

lusty mantle
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Well you gotta vote for the people who you think will do the right thing for the DAO, not for themselves

latent island
narrow jetty
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i have a bridge to sell you šŸ˜„

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dont get me wrong, i like both viper and caveman a lot

near pier
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We had months of feedback on this

narrow jetty
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and i think they are pretty much locked to win with good reason

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but illuvium being official partners with polemos

lusty mantle
narrow jetty
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putting 2 members on the council

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no, i didnt read any of the proposals cause i dont really care much about the whole dao side, i just want a good game to play

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but now that it has come to my attention is does look suspicious

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the same as with ani getting on the council and running ethlizards, also partnered

narrow jetty
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its jsut not a good look when all your partners make the council

near pier
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So sjud shouldn’t be on council?

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What are you arguing

lusty mantle
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No, that would be sus

dusty plank
thick jasper
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they all had a fair voting to be selected as council.

narrow jetty
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lol who do you think the voters are?

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the top 20 wallets decide every outcome

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kieran himself can literally divide his ilv into 20 accounts

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and pick 20 winners

lusty mantle
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Nope

near pier
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So let’s sun up everything you said:

  1. Sjud doesn’t have a fair shot at running
  2. Partners shouldn’t be allowed to be on council
  3. Sjud is xborg who is partner
narrow jetty
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partners should be on council if they are the best candidate, but if you ask me, limited to one person per partner

brittle ginkgo
lusty mantle
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So guilds that are not partnered can have multiple?

near pier
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This is getting confusing

normal python
narrow jetty
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kinda hard to have a serious discussion when you get instantly labeled as a conspiracy theorist

humble trail
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I do get it. If you have 4 people from Polemos or Xborg in the council for gaming then that may be a bit weird.

But if polemos just has 4 experts, and they make good decisions, then i truly couldnt care where those people came from.

wide coral
outer hull
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so polemos is getting 4 dao members?

lusty mantle
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Depends who the DAO will vote in

outer hull
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who is ahead in the surveys

narrow jetty
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like what do you even mean "the dao"

dusty plank
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I think there's validity in preventing any one group from controlling any sub-council or the IMC (3 or more members), but I think you're confused about how you want to get there.

narrow jetty
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its just polemos having tons of ilv in wallets

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and voting their own members in basically

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its literally buying votes

outer hull
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the doa 2

lusty mantle
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Is anyone in the current council even in Polemos? Sasha didn't get elected did he?

outer hull
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i would understand the concern if they somehow get 4 members, yeah

tribal gyro
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I am also a member of Polemos just to be transparent on the issue.

narrow jetty
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lol so we have even more polemos running in one sub section

lusty mantle
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I stepped down as mod in Polemos when I became a mod here šŸ‘€

thick jasper
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i like polemos. Atlas_Love

hard trellis
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if there is a request in here to increase our Syble resistance I agree that is something that should happen in regular intervals.

vast saffron
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Important points around Gov V2 are that it’s a tiered council structure for a reason. An LIP would need to get through the community subcouncil, one of the specialized sub-councils and then the IMC. I’m very confident that we’re decentralized enough that no organization can buy enough influence to control that process. Additionally, any council members are expected to recuse themselves on any votes or decisions that they potentially have a conflict of interest in. In the Ethlizards partnership example, Kieran and I both recused ourself from the discussion and the rest of the council (majority of whom are not Ethlizards) supported. If a sub-council votes to make decision like this that appears to be biased, we have both IMC and community options to remove council members who can’t follow standard ethical practices.

lusty mantle
viral notch
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just join every guild flaw solved

dark ridge
normal python
lusty mantle
hard trellis
lusty mantle
narrow jetty
lusty mantle
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dafuk

normal python
agile tapir
dark ridge
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Don't play victim card

lusty mantle
normal python
narrow jetty
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scoriox has skills? šŸ˜„

vast saffron
agile tapir
narrow jetty
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ive seen like all his videos, they keep getting worse tbh

hard trellis
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I'd also support clear disclosures if there is vested interest in a daa that is 'playing' Illuvium or any group really. I would change my votes to not vote in only ppl from one group

lusty mantle
narrow jetty
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how can i spread information by asking a question?

lusty mantle
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Sorry, forgot you don't do jokes. Carry on

dusty plank
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It's a bit amusing that if you look at the actual data, the person who got elected on the basis of a few whale wallets was myself, and I'm not affiliated with any guild or organization.

It's definitely fun to spin narratives about guilds or organizations controlling election results though.

For reference you can check the voting data from last election, it's linked in Deraji's profile.

near pier
lusty mantle
lusty mantle
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Blickter and his whale friends

thick jasper
lusty mantle
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it's rigged

hard trellis
lusty mantle
remote cedar
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even life is rigged if you believe in destiny

humble trail
thick jasper
lusty mantle
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There is a mod guild?

agile tapir
viral notch
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switch dao to dictatorship, supreme leader

sleek wind
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A full disclosure of associations when running wouldn’t be that terrible of an idea. Just more transparency.

thick jasper
lusty mantle
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Oh no, I forgot to press enter for my application. Sorry @ripe geode

viral notch
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church of squizz members also cant run?!

near pier
narrow jetty
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well this was fun, i have to go for now though

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sjud sent in his ban review request btw

vast saffron
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I’m also a council member of Wildfire, Hoplite in Polemos, partnered with XBorg, newly named CEO of Ethlizards, supporter of several of our IlluviX projects that are building add-ons to the project and more. It’s almost like I want Illuvium and the sector to succeed and will do whatever I can to make that happen. If someone can tell me which affiliation I should count against (or all of them) please let me know.

ripe geode
narrow jetty
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its like having 7 wives

lusty mantle
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I do agree on that

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not the wives part

languid silo
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So many postspepeHands is any off it related to showcase,leaks or dates?

narrow jetty
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so yeah if you ask me, youre a bad candidate

viral notch
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wow jetski is now a community helper congrats i just noticed

zinc arch
languid silo
lusty mantle
humble trail
languid silo
zinc arch
near pier
agile tapir
vast saffron
wide coral
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I can’t believe all this is from someone who got banned a year ago lol

zinc arch
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Had it in name and all

thick jasper
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he“s a helping hand for all of you.

lusty mantle
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imo

tribal gyro
near pier
outer hull
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at least Kieran has way more inside info and doesnt get council pay

lusty mantle
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All previous epochs he did

outer hull
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he did?

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the 5k?

viral notch
lusty mantle
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Quite sure he did, yes.

viral notch
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is like 1 hr here is 1 day irl

outer hull
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nvm then

ripe geode
normal python
lusty mantle
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Why not?

zinc arch
lusty mantle
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Mods are just community members

zinc arch
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Just some fun. Thought it came through, as my voice had that little grinning to it

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Don’t even know how you can brag about being a mod

lusty mantle
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Nothing to brag about

zinc arch
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It’s litterly the job I would want the least

zinc arch
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But I thank you all for your service

near pier
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Congrats your promoted

lusty mantle
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It's just a new color so people know you can probably guide them in the correct direction where they can find what they are looking for

languid silo
thick jasper
lusty mantle
outer hull
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sus

zinc arch
outer hull
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cant trust dates

hard trellis
languid silo
lusty mantle
dark ridge
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I see many people now days are very good at playing victim card šŸ˜‚

gilded path
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Andrew get his pc fixed?

lusty mantle
outer hull
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Q2 hopefully

near pier
dark ridge
tribal gyro
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4090 incoming!

gilded path
gilded path
languid silo
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Could someone give me a Super short Tldr on the Sjud thingey?

lusty mantle
thick jasper
tribal gyro
normal python
near pier
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And lots of gov v2 feedback a month after it’s already passed

lusty mantle
languid silo
dusty plank
tribal gyro
outer hull
lusty mantle
gilded path
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did we ever get pvp leak?

languid silo
lusty mantle
thick jasper
zinc arch
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Looking for pvp leaks

vast saffron
thick jasper
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i can give you a new wall leak this week @languid silo changed the room a bit šŸ˜„

languid silo
normal python
languid silo
thick jasper
warm forum
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Busy day today, hope everyone else is doing well.

zinc arch
lusty mantle
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Well Synix seems to have it covered here (I hope they all trust you to do your job).
I'm gonna go cook some dinner

languid silo
thick jasper
vast saffron
# dusty plank Just vote accordingly - You can check voting bias in <#809220500756234280> for t...

If @dusty plank is any sort of indication, I’d be happy to have more mods on the council. He always has the strongest pulse on the community and is regularly bringing up topics and points of view because he sees and hears so much. I didn’t really know him before this Epoch but have been incredibly impressed with his engagement, knowledge and consideration of all the topics at hand.

sleek wind
# narrow jetty like what do you even mean "the dao"

The DAO is made up of people pursuing a common goal. Their voting power comes from how invested they are in the DAO. It is led by people that are invested and get support by the majority. With quadratic voting high investment has less power so the majority is a mix investment amount and popular vote. This leads to people voting in a mix of the best interest of their selfish monetary motives and the goal of the DAO. Your main point might have some validity, but your examples are not all well researched in how gov v2 is setup and many things were put in place to help mitigate.

vast saffron
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People can hate on the whales but whichever whales knew Blickter and voted for him did a huge service for the DAO. We would be worse off if he wasn’t in council this Epoch.

tribal gyro
lusty mantle
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Don’t see that in the rules, no?
I don’t decide on that anyhow

brittle ginkgo
normal python
outer hull
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im gonna buy 100k ILV and vote for him

agile tapir
lusty mantle
vast saffron
lusty mantle
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I think he means he would vote in his own benefit

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But I mean anyone could do that, not just mods. Maybe we should cancel the council šŸ˜…

vast saffron
lusty mantle
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Not talking about blickter. Mods in general it seems

normal python
outer hull
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5k is insane, makes sense to lower it

sleek wind
zinc arch
vast saffron
outer hull
lusty mantle
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Well it’s 2500 after taxes šŸ˜…

zinc arch
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What is this word, ā€˜taxes’?

outer hull
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EU texas

lusty mantle
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Anyhow that’s all changed and voted on now

gilded path
lusty mantle
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I saw you type pelican, we know you are here. I’m out

zinc arch
zinc arch
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Taxi bills would be around 2,500 a month.

zinc arch
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You keeping at it?

lusty mantle
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Yes

zinc arch
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Nice. Getting that summer body ready

lusty mantle
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2026 here I come

zinc arch
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Soon

gritty citrus
gritty citrus
junior blaze
# narrow jetty tsg "forgot" to invite just one guy

And I have a great solution.
We still have time before voting starts.

Why don't you please contact, organize, host, edit and publish all these interviews with all the candidates and then maybe and that's a very strong MAYBE, I'll even consider that you know what you're talking about.

lusty mantle
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Too many maybe, I think he will pass

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Counter offer?

narrow jetty
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i can think of few things i would hate doing more

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its a good thing you had me to remind you, basically helping you do your job

little flax
narrow jetty
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the response is very much in proportion to tsg's own comment

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if he can dish it out, he can take it

narrow jetty
copper zenith
red geyser
sage falcon
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I agree with Fraggys comment about how Tarren shouldn’t be speaking to him like that, and that they wouldn’t tolerate it if he spoke to them in that manner. The comment that was up for a second but was then deleted

narrow jetty
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3 people sent me a screenshot of it either way, so no worries šŸ˜„

narrow jetty
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im more popular than you are šŸ˜„

toxic lintel
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what a funny backread. feel like smartass falled in love with SJUD.

sage falcon
lusty mantle
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But we all knows DM’s are a scam

narrow vigilBOT
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narrow jetty
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and i dont like bullies

vocal yoke
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@red geyser pls give immortality

zinc arch
narrow jetty
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thats the whole point of the game šŸ˜„

lusty mantle
red geyser
lusty mantle
red geyser
lusty mantle
vocal yoke
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@red geyser thanks, you are the man 🤣

thick jasper
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so i am back from the world outside. is it still ongoing?

lusty mantle
lusty mantle
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Remind me, where did we end it

narrow jetty
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im done for today, going for 1st place in arena now

narrow jetty
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nah, just chilling

little flax
narrow jetty
vocal yoke
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@lusty mantle I thought about not doing it but cmon "man" šŸ˜†

narrow jetty
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best deck ever today, my dream deck for real šŸ˜„

zinc arch
narrow jetty
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yes, you can go 11 empaths šŸ˜„

zinc arch
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Might play some then

thick jasper
lusty mantle
zinc arch
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Wow

red geyser
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Imagine having that many empathic people gathered in real life

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Even I could do alright with that deck

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Maybe

lusty mantle
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I prefer pixels

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@ripe geode is a great pixel

lusty mantle
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Oh damn time goes fast when you are having fun, almost bed time for me

red geyser
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I should probably take down that gif before I get screenshot for posting lewd images.

dark ridge
lusty mantle
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Don’t get too excited, I’m not gone yet

dark ridge
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These stickers are so cool man

lusty mantle
thick jasper
near pier
lusty mantle
normal python
lusty mantle
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Feel free to write an IIP or go back in time and give feedback on gov v2

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I’m not running for council

thick jasper
lusty mantle
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Ok somebody change the topic šŸ‘€

red geyser
dark ridge
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Today is fomc meeting šŸ’€

alpine trout
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Im dieing

lusty mantle
lusty mantle
red geyser
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Ah. I see

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I’ll just have to take your word for it. kektalik

sage falcon
# lusty mantle Feel free to write an IIP or go back in time and give feedback on gov v2

Please refrain from being patronising and condescending to the people that come into the server thank you, you wouldn’t appreciate it if they spoke to you in the same way. Mods need to conduct themselves and hold themselves to the same standards they hold others, and preferably not ban them for 2 hours, then comment about them knowing they won’t be able to reply ā¤ļø

red geyser
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I may need to start doing some work and let some greens get some messages in here so we mods don’t get accused of over filling the chat

lusty mantle
sage falcon
lusty mantle
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Maybe you shouldn’t blame people for things they didn’t do? A team member did and he posted why here in chat. You really do like to change stuff so they sound better to you and I don’t feel like it’s helping you.

sage falcon
lusty mantle
wispy kindle
sleek wind
normal python
dusty plank
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I won't weigh in either way, because I am biased in this regard. If there's a community desire to change the system, it would be best to get it ironed out prior to the next epoch starting.

lusty mantle
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Kinda sad all this feedback is coming now and not when we had discussions about gov v2. I assume best way would be like any change and make a post in ideas and see if it gets any traction from the community

hard trellis
violet sundial
lusty mantle
lusty mantle
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Damn Artemis is here, I really should go to bed 🤣

violet sundial
# lusty mantle Well it’s mostly about changing the rules who can run atm. Probably should be de...

No not always because as you said this could have happened during the initial discussion. Should it be considered yes, but does it HAVE to be pushed through before elections - certainly not. I am not saying to stone wall it either, but I am kind of tired of rushing proposals just because it's an election. If there is a security issue thats one thing, but this - this is not. This issue has been around even before Gov V2

thick jasper
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it's like if i work in the government and can“t me elected to be a governer

violet sundial
lusty mantle
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Oh no need to push it at all. Just get it out of general and see if people are even interested about these ideas. I personally don’t think it’s needed but they might say I’m biased

wispy kindle
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Maybe we can take this conversation in #1020759212172775464 I'm truly getting lost in what people are really trying to express

lusty mantle
red geyser
lusty mantle
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Greedy council does ring a bell

thick jasper
lusty mantle
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With pineapple?

violet sundial
zinc arch
lusty mantle
violet sundial
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hard to make informed decisions or suggestions with out all the information

red geyser
lusty mantle
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I don’t believe pay is shared with the public

violet sundial
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is their a rule against it?

zinc arch
sage falcon
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paid in gum?

wispy kindle
lusty mantle
sage falcon
lusty mantle
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Thanks for that btw 🤣

thick jasper
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to less for the stuff from the last two days šŸ˜„

red geyser
zinc arch
lusty mantle
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No idea what that comment means

zinc arch
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Also. I don't really care

zinc arch
violet sundial
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again not trying to force anyone to share anything

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spitballing ideas

red geyser
lusty mantle
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Maybe a different mod will like your idea, I don’t šŸ™‚

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Can’t speak for all of them šŸ˜‰

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And also there isn’t a team member in the community council so doesn’t add up

zinc arch
lusty mantle
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Having a mod in the spot of a team member in the council. There are no team members in the community council

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But if you want one, I believe blickter is running for community šŸ˜‰

violet sundial
lusty mantle
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Aha

zinc arch
violet sundial
# lusty mantle Aha

never felt the need to bring it up in discussions because I personally don't mind that mods run for council.

zinc arch
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Think the community council would be a natural fit for the mod role

lusty mantle
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We are just community members anyhow

violet sundial
lusty mantle
#

Pretty much, he backing you up

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Have a snickers

violet sundial
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Please I'd love one

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getting all turned around

violet sundial
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I am not cranky 😦

lusty mantle
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Give me 5 min

violet sundial
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I was trying to have productive clarifying conversation

violet sundial
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am I not allowed

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now I am cranky

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Fraggy

dark ridge
lusty mantle
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Nothing makes me more cranky than people calling me cranky

violet sundial
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where is my snickers

zinc arch
violet sundial
zinc arch
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And I only have 10 other bookmarks

violet sundial
lusty mantle
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Do you cry a lot?

violet sundial
violet sundial
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all the time

zinc arch
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Quickest path...

lusty mantle
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What sub council are you running for?

red geyser
zinc arch
lusty mantle
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No

violet sundial
red geyser
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Kinda wild

lusty mantle
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Oh yeah, I found the list. I forgot a bunch 🤣

lusty mantle
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Ok now really goodnight. If I don’t pass my exam tomorrow I get fired 🤣

red geyser
lusty mantle
valid charm
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hi guys, wen game?

gilded path
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that reminds me i need to test remote desktop playing illuvium with a xbox controller paired to the phone when i get a chance and remember lol

valid charm
gilded path
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doesnt mozart have a roadmap command?

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?roadmap

dull chasm
gilded path
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guess not lol

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thought i saw someone use a command before

dull chasm
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no bueno

gilded path
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!roadmap

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worth a shot

dull chasm
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it's probably removed already

gilded path
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boooooo lol

molten granite
dull chasm
molten granite
molten granite
red geyser
lusty mantle
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No

sage falcon
near pier
# sage falcon

This is just false information, I have DMs with him and all he does is attack me verbally lol

near pier
sage falcon
remote cedar
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Just let it go

sage falcon
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presumed guilty i mean.

normal python
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This should be dealt with privately. We don't all need to be seeing these DMs

remote cedar
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Just stop

sage falcon
near pier
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I gave him opportunity to appeal you can obviously see he said "I don't care about your appeal"

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Jeremy has now done the same

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your advocating for someone that doesn't want to fix their problem

remote cedar
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he cannot even follow that, so no use

sage falcon
flint tide
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he made an account the day he came in. if he's been part of the community longer, he would have had an account long ago

thin elbow
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Kind of get the feeling this is all just a troll having Fun.
He keeps repeating himself, obviously has an insulting attitude, and does anything but to be open to Find a solution. He doesn't even got in the call to hear what they would ask him...

remote cedar
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or would have been on Discord and speed run to a ban, either way was going to get banned

simple patrol
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I wonder how many alt accounts they already had?

sage falcon
# thin elbow Kind of get the feeling this is all just a troll having Fun. He keeps repeating ...

its too easy to write someone off like that to de legitimise their argument, like saying you suspect them as an alt account without any evidence, reasons, grounds or definition. to be honest, id be really uncomfortable with being asked to go on a call to reveal personal info about myself, having to prove myself,to get allowed back on a server i dont think i should have been banned on in the first place

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as much as im not taking sides, the guy makes valid points in the email, and its really sketchy how he was banned in the first place, twice

thin elbow
sage falcon
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the point here is the guy has been accused of something without any evidence, hes been presumed guilty and banned from the server, and now hes being asked to go on a call and reveal his personal info and identity to be allowed back in. that doesnt sit right with me, i dont think its good at all

simple patrol
sage falcon
# thin elbow what would be your solution?

my solution would be prevention is better than cure, the guy should not have been banned and i think illuvium looks really bad here to be using baseless accusations so as to justify completely banning someone, presumed guilty of something that hasnt been defined, and now has to reveal his personal identity ? like i said, doesnt sit right

remote cedar
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and that is your opinion, looking into his behavior it doesn't sit well to hes case

simple patrol
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The mods and Team need to be able to police the discord fairly. If someone doesn’t want to follow the process to appeal then what is supposed to be done. We have had plenty of people come in on alt accounts just to cause problems.

sage falcon
remote cedar
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so don't try to fix the past

remote cedar
thin elbow
remote cedar
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not 13 here

sage falcon
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why cant anyone address the points ? claiming hes disresctful doesnt contribute to anything to do with why he was banned, and the problem with the way it was handled. whats even more concerning is that hes being treated like a criminal having to go on a call and verify himself with personal info, just to be allowed back on a server he shouldnt have been banned on in the first place

dusty plank
remote cedar
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well he speaks as disrespectful as SJUD

flint tide
thin elbow
sage falcon
flint tide
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and they continued to repeat themselves exactly over and over and insulted people repeatedly

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never even remotely attempted to continue a conversation in a meaningful way

sage falcon
near pier
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@dapper cradle went through this process quickly and easily no arguments, fully understood. Back in the server in 24 hours.

tribal lintel
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You have way more patience than I have @near pier, it's probably good i'm not running for community SC lol

sage falcon
thin elbow
sage falcon
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i have to admit, the reply email to him doesnt explain anything, and then expects him to come on a call and reveal personal info to people he doesnt know, and who have already treated him poorly in his opinion. il be honest, i wouldnt feel comfortable with that in the same circumstances, and im sure a lot of other people would not either

near pier
sage falcon
near pier
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To make sure they are a real person, Chat GPT is very good these days I hear.

thin elbow
near pier
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Didnt mean for his chat to get removed either, that was an accident

sage falcon
sage falcon
near pier
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No we have the ability to save peoples chats when banned

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in fact we try to, to avoid situations like this

sage falcon
thin elbow
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Cmon... There is something Like common Sense about being disrespectful or not.

sage falcon
# near pier No we have the ability to save peoples chats when banned

then can they be put back ? i got involved in this because i was in the middle of reading them and then they were gone. i dont care if im blacklisted now as a 'hater' or whatever, im not, i just hgappen to think the guy was treated unfairly and irt concerns me from my own perspective about illuvium, i doubt im the only one

remote cedar
sage falcon
thin elbow
sage falcon
thin elbow
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Again, have you seen the Chat?

sage falcon
#

this is just semantics your engaging in now tbh man, my point is no one was rude. your just on the side of the people against him, and your not contributing much of meaning here. to claim hes rude and not the people who ganged up on him, is just silly

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if we are adults here, none of anything either way should be considered rude, defo not rude enough to be banned for

thin elbow
sage falcon
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your defending rich and the ban, and attacking him saying he was 'rude;' and the ban was justfified

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so not sure why your claiming not to be attacking/defending people you dont know

thin elbow
flint tide
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Objectively claiming something as rude is not an attack...

sage falcon
thin elbow
sage falcon
sage falcon
flint tide
humble trail
clever kettle
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I do find it weird you have been inactive for 12+month and just come back after this person got banned for being an alt, have changed your name to something else and now know exactly what happen in the message that have been deleted

sage falcon
sage falcon
humble trail
sage falcon
sage falcon
clever kettle
flint tide
sage falcon
flint tide
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But this guy completely and utterly ignored my reply to the exactly 2 points he made, and continued to repeat himself 992 times.

clever kettle
sage falcon
sage falcon
tribal lintel
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I still don't even know what your argument is so no you haven't been very clear lol

sage falcon
mellow furnace
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i get what hugh is saying

sage falcon
thick jasper
sage falcon
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thank you @mellow furnace

clever kettle
mellow furnace
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it seems like the guy getting banned wants to know why he was banned in the first place. so he created another account so that he could come on here and find out. Then he gets banned bc he has an alt account that he created to come on here.

sage falcon
remote cedar
flint tide
# sage falcon man i have said many times, look at the screenshot and see the questions that we...

I didn't ban the guy, I don't know the specifics around that. All I know his account was created the same day he came in bashing, with no meaningful conversation, literally never replied to a response to his concerns, only repeated himself over and over (and yes, I have now repeated this description over and over because it's not seeming to stick). Yet he claims to be a longstanding investor/member, whatever the wording was.

sage falcon
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save you all scrolling back up

clever kettle
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So this is between him and support, so i'm asking you one more time and just one, please stop disturbing this chat.

near pier
flint tide
simple patrol
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There comes a point where this conversation just goes in circles. There is a path to remedy it doesn’t need to continue to clog general chat

sage falcon
remote cedar
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yeah get out of general

flint tide
narrow jetty
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his point was trash tbh and he didnt respond to anyone else, just kept repeating

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trust me, if i say it, its true

flint tide
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that is literally all he complained about, and never progressed the conversation when it was addressed, multiple times

sage falcon
# clever kettle So this is between him and support, so i'm asking you one more time and just one...

man this is like the weird way to justify the ban for that guy in the first place, your making stuff up like im 'disturbning the chat' and you will use that as a justification to ban me and consider saying that as a warning, this is all just so werid,, i think a lot of people would disagree that its betwen you and him, i think its a community issue and it highlights a major lack or transparency and bad practices, its been handed terribly by the team

simple patrol
#

Monologing is a vibe killer

sage falcon
flint tide
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critique my reply, is this not sufficient? what would you like me to say?

clever kettle
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You have been asked and you have been warned and yes you'll say you have been banned if you're being time out and going to twist my word but for real this is the last warning, after that you'll get another timeout if you refuses to stop

sage falcon
flint tide
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I'm not part of customer support. I am on game design, and as a former professional auto battler player, I did my best to address his concerns around the game. What are your continuing concerns with my replies @sage falcon ?

clever kettle
simple patrol
flint tide
sage falcon
sage falcon
remote cedar
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it is general, you should talk it in private

thorny bloom
clever kettle
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I asked many times, i'm sorry.

remote cedar
#

or expect this type of replies as it's not welcome what you are doing for the ones in chat

thick jasper
#

thank you. now we can back to normal. so wen pvp šŸ˜„

thorny bloom
thick jasper
#

guys tell me something good and funny

thorny bloom
thick jasper
thorny bloom
remote cedar
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good and funny

thick jasper
humble trail
#

he was muted again? I just had finished writing my elaborate response on the mail lol 🄹

thick jasper
thorny bloom
violet sundial
#

Showcase next week!!! Atlas_Love

thick jasper
#

sorry had to do it šŸ˜„

remote cedar
#

wen Season 1

humble trail
thick jasper
near pier
#

Whoa its normal in here...

simple patrol
#

Everyone take a deep breath. Ahhhh. All better now.

willow jackal
simple patrol
flint tide
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if he had a saw in his little paw a ton of wood he could

thick jasper
simple patrol
thin elbow
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Did you know that the King of hearts is the only King without a moustache?

simple patrol
willow jackal
thick jasper
willow jackal
simple patrol
thick jasper
thick jasper
simple patrol
thin elbow
thick jasper
simple patrol
thick jasper
thin elbow
thick jasper
#

only time i let it grow was the Eishockey Playoffs for the Chicago Blackhawks šŸ˜„

simple patrol
#

I like the look of a beard but kissing not so much

thin elbow
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Besides... People do things that are not nice daily... Wearing Jeans, high Heels, eating vegies etc. šŸ˜‚

thick jasper
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and they won the cup that year. so got a bit of a beard šŸ˜„

thin elbow
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Aaand your wood chop skill is +1 with a beard

thick jasper
#

and youĀ“re back šŸ˜„

red geyser
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Auto mod does not like that word, @simple patrol

simple patrol
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Heals are no fun. šŸ˜‚

thick jasper
simple patrol
thick jasper
simple patrol
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It was taken out of context.

red geyser
simple patrol
thick jasper
simple patrol
red geyser
#

I thought about it

thick jasper
simple patrol
red geyser
thick jasper
red geyser
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There… try it

thick jasper
#

ohhh i can.

simple patrol
#

Wth

thick jasper
red geyser
simple patrol
thick jasper
#

there are other channels in this server? oh man i need to check them out.

thick jasper
humble trail
#

devious 🫢

simple patrol
#

Have a wonderful day my fellow Rangers. šŸ˜

alpine trout
simple patrol
thick jasper
dense grove
#

I just did a lot of reading.šŸ‘€
Kieran's last Escape Pod with Rich, someone asked the question of how he can be patient with the people who aren't Dick fans. Think we just saw that in action. Jeremy and the Mods too.

Brought back memories, I used to be a manager dealing with people all the time. Makes me all the happier that I am heading back out to touch grass and deal with animals.šŸ˜‚

Not trying to start all the conversation again, just wanted to give you all kudos as it is a tough job.Atlas_Love

thick jasper
# dense grove I just did a lot of reading.šŸ‘€ Kieran's last Escape Pod with Rich, someone ask...

thanks for the words.
yes sometimes its not easy. not only here on discord. on twitter and other social medias too.
this should be a please for people to come in here and want to have fun. talking about the project and be a big family.
its bad and it hurts a bit to see people literally fighting. there is enough hate in the world and much more important things in life to deal with.
things that make you happy. so be happy everyday. Atlas_Love

thick jasper
#

Good night Family. heartred heart_fox

dense grove
glossy elm
#

Feedback and discussion is welcome, many don't know how to do this in a constructive way.

sleek wind
#

How I saw it. The dude was disrespectful and broke rules and thought everyone else was being unfair.

Guy comes in blazing into general (not really even the place to have this specific non-general conversation), people in general reject what he is saying in a respectful way, guy repeats himself endlessly and plays victim, guy has a 1 day old account and was breaking rules #4(spammy), #5(rude), #10(alt account) and #14(having fun). Banned.

Guy comes back with another alt(rule #10). ā€œI didn’t break any rules.ā€ Spams(rule #4) this all over. Again breaks rules #5 and #14. Banned again.

Another guy comes in and spams (rule #4) about emails not being specific enough and that the way to resolve is not fair to the 1st guy who is rightfully banned.

dense grove
thin elbow
near pier
#

no

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lol

red geyser
#

#šŸ‘‘ć€•bot-commands

clever kettle
#

$tip @dense grove ilv all

bitter gyroBOT
near pier
#

lol

red geyser
#

Lol

clever kettle
#

😢

near pier
#

poor torial

red geyser
#

I actually think tip bot is good for any channel

thin elbow
#

Poor Jeremy šŸ˜‚

red geyser
#

Just makes sense for recognition purposes

glossy elm
red geyser
#

Did no one have the ilv to hook him up? I do

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Someone gave me 1 fairly recently

near pier
#

$tip @dense grove all ILV

near pier
red geyser
#

Ah

clever kettle
#

hum

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well

#

$tip @dense grove all ILV

bitter gyroBOT
#

ILV @clever kettle sent @dense grove 0.520436 ILV (ā‰ˆ $26.60).

hard trellis
potent glacier
#

I found Rich's future dog on Tiktok lol šŸ˜†

dense grove
sleek wind
sage falcon
sleek wind
sage falcon
#

Hey @little flax last night I had a dream that you rejected my invitation to go on a date, and then I woke up and was so glad it hadn't happened in real life cos that would be so embarrassing. So can you just reassure me that you wouldn't reject me irl cos my self esteem is hit

sage falcon
#

Grant is officially less friendly than Aaron

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Aaron bites

sage falcon
#

Grant has sore hands but that's no excuse. I'll fix em

sleek wind
#

Going to be pretty busy tomorrow. So happy May the 4th.

dense grove
#

Weird fact about me, I have never watched Star Wars. I caught bits and pieces along the way but I have never seen an entire movie.

simple patrol
#

They are classics but I don’t know if watching them all now is worth it. Certainly going in the right chronology is advised

dense grove
agile tapir
dense grove
fringe girder
#

GM. Any news wen merch?

fluid leaf
#

soon fellow ape

dense grove
near pier
sage falcon
#

Why. What more do you need. Greedy

fluid leaf
#

Its always never enough for me

sage falcon
#

Never say always

fluid leaf
#

And its hard

#

Always say never

sage falcon
#

Have you ever seen star wars?

#

Cos that's a conversation topic in here lately

fluid leaf
#

Who has not? Kkkkkk

sage falcon
#

I

fluid leaf
#

You had no childhood then

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Star wars and lord of the rings

sage falcon
#

I worked in a coal mine since the age of 9. Sue me. Productive citizen

fluid leaf
#

I almost believed u

sage falcon
#

19

fluid leaf
#

In a coal mine but as the human resources right

sage falcon
#

Nah. I was happiest as a secretary

#

Had a crush on my boss

fluid leaf
#

Thats what I call being involved in your job

glossy elm
#

Hey all,

A brief update on the status of significant projects:
I won't speak to the Art Department as I don't have oversight

Illuvium.io Website - A minor update currently In Test on UAT
Illuvidex - Update currently In Test on UAT (QOL changes, Minor Design improvements)
Beyond - Update currently In Test on UAT (Includes Public View Collections + QOL changes)
Zero v0.1.6 - Build currently In Test on UAT (Following this deployment we will be in a position to schedule the start of S1)
Merchandise Store v1 - Currently In Test on UAT (Physical goods have been shipped to Fulfillment partners and the Merch is looking excellent)
Overworld PB2 - Currently In Test on UAT
Staking - Update currently In Development
Arena PB3 - Currently In Development
Account System - Currently in the Early Stages of Development
Fuel Pool - Currently in the Early Stages of Development
Deck Builder - Currently in the Early Stages of Development (UIs look phenomenal, very exciting)


**Hiring: **

  • Recently we added another Senior Backend Engineer to the Team šŸŽ‰
  • The focus is hiring Senior/Lead level Engineers

A general rule for each hire is that you must be outputting high value work that closes the gap between Alpha and Open Beta, hence the focus is predominantly engineers - I don't see this changing in the short-medium term


Operations

  • Jeremy continues to do the work of an entire team.
  • Hiring a Junior/Mid level to support him.
  • Reduced outgoing $spend alongside Danny & Varto this past month or two.

Production

  • Documentation across each project is robust. This forms a much improved way of briefing project work and estimating delivery dates.
  • Clear roadmaps for each Project through to Open Beta and Full-release
  • Continued improvements to tracking/reporting of operator SP burn-up

fluid leaf
#

Ba-dun-tssk

sage falcon
#

Man.

#

A life debilitating crush. A decade long.

#

Seriously, never really ended

fluid leaf
#

You deserve to be happy

sage falcon
#

Haha

fluid leaf
#

You should come out of the closet

sage falcon
#

Thank god I met my husband

#

He liberated me from it

fluid leaf
#

Kkkkkk

fluid leaf
worldly mist
glossy elm
# worldly mist VERY much appreciate your updates Nick. Any idea when we will get the normal de...

Aaron is currently killing himself ensuring the documentation for Fuel Pool, Game Launcher, Account App is immaculate (The better we can make the documentation, the faster the developers can find a solution and knock it out, less questions, less back and forth)

He's also revisiting Arena Documentation and uplifting it completely to match the new Project Model. (This is a massive piece of work that will take him within inches of death)

hazy thorn
#

I was hoping for the launch of S1 Zero to be imminentAtlas_Pepe1

lyric pumice
#

Me loves Illuvium

thick jasper
#

Good morning beautiful peoplehandWave

dense grove
thick jasper
#

And thanks again for the nice words. heart_fox

small coral
#

Oft, that leak is juicy

simple patrol
lusty mantle
#

Must be cause you deserved it

simple patrol
lusty mantle
#

There is a lot of pride to be selected in a mod experiment

agile tapir
lusty mantle
#

Nick, now delete that part so he sounds like a crazy person

sage falcon
#

Which by the way should have been me

glossy elm
#

In it's current state our Account Areas aren't as unified as we would like.

The Account System will be a single central app that integrates with the existing Web-Apps, Games etc.

It will feature standard Account type Settings, as well as game-specific data such as progress, achievements, and preferences.

sage falcon
#

Nick you're a legend, more transparent than the entire council

glossy elm
#

Great things are close 🄵

sage falcon
#

The word soon is banned. Don't ruin your legend status

#

You may only say one day

outer hull
#

What is UAT?

sage falcon
tender kraken
outer hull
#

Oh i see. Thanks

twin pendant
#

Which stage of Zero now? When can we get the Zero BP?

ripe geode
ripe geode
sage falcon
#

How long has Ricky Tan not been Alex Wukar? Like this whole time I thought they were the same dude

remote cedar
sage falcon
#

I have prosopagnosia

#

Btw we're ALL waiting now...

sage falcon
lusty mantle
#

Accept it, you got rejected again.

sage falcon
#

There's still hope

#

There still hope

lusty mantle
#

There isn't