💬〕general

[vale heath]

Someone will probably record the next one and post it somewhere for those who aren't awake/active to watch. If nobody else does I will 🙂

Unless they don't want it being recorded

[ionic stag]

if we purchased bulldogs jersey yesterday im guessing those cosplay nfts have not been distributed yet?

[sonic dagger]

which one do you will come first?
Pb2, illuvitar or iz alpha?
no pressure

full disclosure

personal opinion

[wide gull]

It's in the process. Some have been delivered.

[ionic stag]

Sounds good Appreciate it Lucius

[tropic otter]

Hello sexy guys

Gonna try to grind some epx

[sonic dagger]

thats breaking the rules

[tropic otter]

What do u mean gah

[sonic dagger]

grinding

[tropic otter]

Chatting is not breaking rules

[sonic dagger]

spamming is

[tropic otter]

Bruh gaga

Do u see me spamming

[sonic dagger]

gaga gugu

oh

I thought we are talking in baby

[thin elbow]

Then why you still here jaga

[tropic otter]

What baby?

Loooool

Rekt

[sonic dagger]

i hold all the information

ask me anything

[thin elbow]

Doesn't make your gaga no Spam

[tropic otter]

Oh u alr have ranger role

[sonic dagger]

?

[thin elbow]

Wen ilz

[sonic dagger]

Soon

[tropic otter]

I'll?

[sonic dagger]

stop spamming

[tropic otter]

What u talking about dude

[sonic dagger]

no u

[tropic otter]

What me?

[worldly mist]

No you

[sonic dagger]

me u

stop

[tropic otter]

You mean ur name is you?

[hot musk]

lol

[sonic dagger]

no you me yes

[oblique slate]

https://tenor.com/view/maes-b-lost-in-a-field-pulp-fiction-john-travolta-gif-14829328

[tropic otter]

Yes oke stop spamming

[sonic dagger]

stop typing

[tropic otter]

You or me?

[sonic dagger]

not me u

[tropic otter]

U or me or me or u

[sonic dagger]

no u no me

[oblique slate]

you know that the bot only gives xp every 60 seconds right lol

[sonic dagger]

damnit

[hot musk]

https://tenor.com/view/rush-hour-rush-hour3-fight-me-triggered-beat-up-gif-13580455

[tropic otter]

I'm just having fun haha trolling the guy

[sonic dagger]

no u im troll

[tropic otter]

Sssst but it will be our secret

[sonic dagger]

stop whispering

[worldly mist]

Jag doesn’t ever turn it off lol

[sonic dagger]

what iff

[oblique slate]

you can't troll the troll Lmao

[sonic dagger]

Off

[hot musk]

you guys made me remember an old movie, nice!

[sonic dagger]

what off

[sonic dagger]

ur not even 17

[tropic otter]

But he has wolf pfp not trol pfp?

[worldly mist]

I’ll come back in an hour

[hot musk]

who said I was 17? lol

[sonic dagger]

ru at least 14?

[hot musk]

no

[sonic dagger]

does your parents know ur here

[oblique slate]

you have a point

[hot musk]

https://tenor.com/view/atg-capa-stucapa-studiocapa-pandu-gif-24944581

[tropic otter]

Wait u gonna steal him?

[sonic dagger]

ser im gonna have to call your parents

do you have your id?

[hot musk]

2 things wrong in one sentence lol

[sonic dagger]

what

do you speak englesh ser

[hot musk]

not a sir, and don't need to call my parents 😅

[sonic dagger]

su english por favor?

[oblique slate]

s'il vous plaît

[sonic dagger]

ok ya ma'am

[wide gull]

https://tenor.com/view/gandalf-lotr-pwn-pwned-gif-12414379

[sonic dagger]

ur a lady?

sorry i got easily confused these days

[hot musk]

yes and no worries 😅

[worldly mist]

To be fair jag just assume everyone is male by default no matter what

Which is kind of fair most people in the server are men

[oblique slate]

lol

[sonic dagger]

female is a rare species in this habitat

where is that troll

is he gone

[hot musk]

I don't think that's true

[sonic dagger]

so far we have fraggy the german mod

scar the female

WF banned for life

crystal the uhm....u know

maybe 20?

no

i think 10

shinyshards got a female only channel i think

they have 11 females

[haughty cave]

I m there too 😏

[fierce vine]

I don’t think they’re rare. Just quiet because of simps

[hot musk]

maybe more, sometimes is scary to admit that you are a girl, so people may avoid the conversation, but on the last weeks I see that you guys are nice people.

[fierce vine]

My fiancée rarely talks online lol

[sonic dagger]

werent u in shinyshards?

[wide gull]

There are more women than you think. Some people just prefer to be anon, male or female and others just make assumptions.

[sonic dagger]

we are the nicest people

prob not shabim

hes our tate

[haughty cave]

Yes but, theres no game yet. Idk what people do in other guilds

[sonic dagger]

hmmm

socials

dissing other guild?

i enjoy shinyshard drama

[haughty cave]

Hope they are active inside the guild chats.

[wide gull]

We're friendly to all here.
Exceptions being the worst of trolls and scammers. 🔨

[oblique slate]

https://tenor.com/view/friend-spongebob-smile-want-gif-23862635

[haughty cave]

I have my own guild plus playing in another alliance and there are somewhere 100 ppl in my guild chat. We talk a lot maybe more then here

For marvel contest of champions

[upbeat hedge]

is there any way to buy land atm?

[wide gull]

@vagrant inlet brought a ton of people from MCOC into Illuvium.

[oblique slate]

https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/

[wide gull]

Yes on the IlluviDex you can buy Land from other community members.

[haughty cave]

Uh he has good YT channel but week player 😂😂😂

I know i have seen him here in chats.

[languid silo]

Jag is going for the top spot

[upbeat hedge]

can i have a link please?

[languid silo]

just someting i drawed up while bored.

[fierce vine]

Looks like it should be a poster

Looks good

[oblique slate]

noice

[covert violet]

someone said we can move lands off IlluviDex is this true?

[languid silo]

thank you, am i hired?

[fierce vine]

https://tenor.com/view/hide-the-simpsons-bush-bushes-hermit-gif-5786484

[languid silo]

https://twitter.com/Rogiervdbeek/status/1565763816339677184?s=20&t=OfXxsKQuqdb-YcdlRAzQQg

Rogier van de Beek ♊️ (@Rogiervdbeek)

The architect in @illuviumio concept art for the new G4udi drone.

Twitter · Sep 2, 2022, 6:09 PM

[oblique slate]

to another wallet? truth

[steel steppe]

anyone get the bulldog hologram?

[languid silo]

are those out yet?

[covert violet]

did they send them out yet?

[sonic dagger]

damn

IZ drone

[languid silo]

What do you mean? IZ

[steel steppe]

i don't know thats why i'm asking!

i only got the nft

[haughty cave]

No T shirt?

[sonic dagger]

gaudi is the drone in IZ

[languid silo]

not out yet according to the Illuvium promo collection

[languid silo]

Thought Gaudi was the Drone in Survival?

[wide gull]

@upbeat hedge

[haughty cave]

Drones are everywhere nowadays

[tropic otter]

Lol

[sage falcon]

i think today is last day you can buy the bulldog jersey then they do the drawing, or was last day yesterday...

[languid silo]

it finished a fewq hours ago

[sage falcon]

ahh right, au... should be announced soon then

[upbeat hedge]

ty alot

[outer hull]

spreading false information

[sonic dagger]

thats mozart?

idk if people know that gaudi was a famous catalan architect

[languid silo]

Mozart is your side kick,flying around you in OW

[sonic dagger]

so whos that in survival

[languid silo]

Gaudi

[haughty cave]

And who s the mozart?:))

[sonic dagger]

huh

the drone

[outer hull]

no, the musician

huh

[sonic dagger]

hes not a musician

hes a composer

[haughty cave]

Think he could play too 🙂 On electronic guitar

[outer hull]

https://tenor.com/view/omg-wide-eyed-oh-shit-big-eyes-gif-10857330

[sonic dagger]

he'll be very upset if people called him a pianist

[outer hull]

he played the guitar

[sonic dagger]

ukulele

[haughty cave]

But Now both of them are drones 🙂

[sonic dagger]

no u drone

[haughty cave]

I am a drone for my kids 😂

[sonic dagger]

me too

[simple idol]

is anyone able to play this game yet?

[oblique slate]

yes, the game is in closed beta at the moment

!beta

[tidal garnet]

You can register for the closed beta through this link: https://play.illuvium.io/arena

You can improve your chances of being selected for the beta by:

1. Becoming a ranger (Level 5 in the server)
2. Joining # twitter-role and promoting Illuvium on twitter
3. Participating in (and winning) our weekly trivia competition

[simple idol]

thanks guys @tidal garnet

[haughty cave]

See drones are useful people like them😂😂

[simple idol]

big up the drones

[simple idol]

how do you get survivors role bro

[outer hull]

you have to be active here, get xp every message

and need level 5 to be survivor

[rough solar]

Hello

[lean wadi]

yo

[vast spear]

In case you guys miss the random jump in talk from Aaron today on Discord. Huge update 39 min of talk

I posted a video with audio of the conversation here--> #🎨〕community-content
#🎨〕community-content message

[wide gull]

For anyone asking wen - product release order will be clarified in upcoming dev blog.

[zinc arch]

I love you

[outer hull]

Something like it was stated at the end of the last one? Or different?

[ebon basin]

hi

[simple idol]

hi

[near pier]

@sonic dagger

[wide gull]

https://tenor.com/view/whoa-illuvium-ilv-illuviumio-yield-farming-gif-22290955

[oblique slate]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-happy-food-gettin-it-getting-hype-gif-10970905

[near pier]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khalid-you-very-smart-gif-8447798

[gray cave]

Can i have some good news please? Make it a happy Friday (no pizza jokes)

think out the box

[near pier]

Check #🎨〕community-content

linkkys video

Aaron is healthy

and back working

thats great news

[gray cave]

YES

[rose patrol]

Yes!!!!!

[languid silo]

test

why is the above text red?

[vast spear]

Might be only red for your try F5

[languid silo]

i cant even spell

another leak bonaza with Grant

and now it moved.

[sage falcon]

The red line didnt post until just now

and now its not red

[languid silo]

thank you Scoot.

@junior blaze btw congratulations on the promotion🥳

[hushed tendon]

closed beta? welp aint get that inv lol long agoooo

geezzzzzzzz the coin at 76 damn what a hit

[vast spear]

Perfect time to buy ! Will go lower but it's a still a good price for future.

[hushed tendon]

yeaaa waiting on these bills to post on the account

[near pier]

Wut

Oh

[ripe geode]

think it was aarons new targeting system for leaks ^^ you are on black list, expect kick from beta any minute now

[languid silo]

but i dont know anything and cant leak.

[ripe geode]

hmm, is there a specific name for cowboy boots?

[near pier]

Slip ons

[ripe geode]

funny that actually you answered 😂

[near pier]

I have ariats, Tony llamas, Justin’s, and double h

[near pier]

Much wow

Lol

What’s he holding

[ripe geode]

AI did well this time 😂

[near pier]

Lol that was the AI

[languid silo]

holy shit,cant unsee that.

is that all from the AI thing you have?

[ripe geode]

boots worked

[ripe geode]

yes, they have new feature , you can expand image ^^

[ripe geode]

actually i was practising on your drawing before i moved to Rich xD

[lean wadi]

damn thats cool

[tender kraken]

Bad news. He has some unfortunate medical condition that causes legs to swell up. See a doctor immediately. 😏

[ripe geode]

he is from US tho, its more like top part is too skiny ^^

[tender kraken]

Being from the US causes the whole body to swell up. Not just the legs. 😂

[sage falcon]

I like how he has a watch on both arms

[tender kraken]

He also has a very large roll of duct tape. Definitely not a serial killer.

Maybe he used to be in proportion, but then had liposuction and couldn’t afford the bottom half? 😆

[languid silo]

Pvp is going to be so awesome 🥳

[hot breach]

Is it in testing already. Or even in PB2?

[lusty mantle]

Stop spreading false information

[haughty cave]

Whole game going to be awasome 🙂

[haughty cave]

I know u are not German :))

[gaunt tree]

Why is this tag line still being used if it’s untrue? Very misleading if it’s extremely likely Leviathan won’t be happening

[mossy grove]

u make this?

genius

[lusty mantle]

Don’t worry this merch is only for the team 😂

[ripe geode]

no no, AI did it, i just influenced it to do some stuff ^^

[languid silo]

dont belive PVP will be in PB2.

[mossy grove]

where u find this AI? dm me a link

[gusty dove]

Did you use extra_thiccc = true?

[plucky osprey]

Hi dudes, can you tell me when will the illuvium zero game release?

[balmy elk]

No exact date atm we should wait official #📣〕announcements

[gaunt tree]

Lmao in that case I want one 😂

I did see that tagline at the game tho. I just don’t want new players to come in based on that slogan and then get pissed off when there is no fighting for eth

[sage falcon]

Damn. What do I have to do to get one of those merch boxes?

[gaunt tree]

Where were those 👀

I’ve been MIA

[sage falcon]

I saw it on twitter. But its the shirt that you posted 2 minutes ago.

and maybe other stuff. i dunno

[balmy elk]

I want this one with Umbre's face

[languid silo]

love listing to Aaron.thank you @vast spear hope we can get more focused interviews with Aaron.

what are the odds of someone producing 4 children and child 1 does SNX,Child 2 does art,Child 3 does game design child 4 does Business development and crypto. and they all meet and make Illuvium

[weak harness]

Oh families like that select them before conception.
They have like a catalog to pick from.

Us plebs choose flavors of condoms, they choose flavors of awesome children

[languid silo]

Makes sense

[upbeat hedge]

hey guys , where can i learn everything about lands? any helpful link?

[shut tusk]

I believe the Medium article is still the most comprehensive resource. Head to the illuvium medium and check article 51.

[upbeat hedge]

does it also mention the resources you can mine?

[shut tusk]

Yep, that's all in there

[upbeat hedge]

perfect, thanks

[balmy elk]

Also if you have an specific question in #🎮〕illuvium-zero you can find lot of information

[upbeat hedge]

okay , thanks

[frozen condor]

Can i get beta

[wide gull]

Correct

[wide gull]

This is my new answer when someone asks how Illuvium was born. 🤣

[gaunt tree]

when are the holo jersey nfts being sent out? or have they already been

[austere lake]

where can I check the original prices for the land sale?

[near pier]

And then 3 of those children meet this extremely based individual named DickKingz and hire him

1:100000000000

[boreal gale]

This should be part of our Lore

[haughty cave]

And that individual brought luck and Gold 😃

[agile tapir]

so based. much wow.

[near pier]

Much wow

[gaunt tree]

where is this interview?

[sonic dagger]

the tagline is still used in bulldog's game too
i guess its the honey pot

[wide gull]

The legendary golden Dick.

[sonic dagger]

👀

[gaunt tree]

great if it brings others to ilv, bad if they feel baited and switched

[sonic dagger]

Golden shower

[wide gull]

https://tenor.com/view/crypto-gemology-salt-bae-crypto-gemology-gold-bar-gold-bar-gold-gif-24443583

[sonic dagger]

i feel baited

[lapis smelt]

What did I just walked into

[split lintel]

How is it untrue?

Tournaments will be paid out in Eth most likely. You sell eth to land holders

you sell illuvials for ETH?

[versed verge]

Because it's not ready now or won't be in the first launch of the game. It will come, Aaron mentioned it again in kukkas cave last night so, it's coming one day.

[gaunt tree]

"fight for eth".....as in leviathan. buying and selling nfts for eth wouldn't be readily interpreted as "fighting" for it. for those in our community already, we know it means leviathan. tournaments being paid out in eth doesn't apply to 99% of players if leviathan is out of the picture

[gaunt tree]

oh is this where the latest interview is? i need to listen rn. where is it recorded?

[split lintel]

fight for eth was never exclusive to leviathan

[versed verge]

Leviathan is coming until we're told it's not. Look in community content channel. Linkky video

[split lintel]

The major backing crypto of Illuvium is still Ethereum so imo the slogan stands

[gaunt tree]

but that's the only situation where you are truly "fighting for eth".....if we are using that tagline liberally, then i'm fighting for eth everyday trading on opensea

[summer walrus]

fighting for eth is still true as illuvials will be traded in eth, so ur still fighting for illuvials and in return u get eth if u wish

[sonic dagger]

we all know fight for eth refers to leviathan wager

[gaunt tree]

are we fighting for eth or are we paying a fee to enter a virtual world with the possibility of encountering nfts worth eth

[versed verge]

We all know that it's still in the works... Where has it been said that it's been scrapped? No where!

[summer walrus]

not for me rlly, i didnt care too much for leviathan tbh, not much of a gambling man

[sonic dagger]

kieran, chris

[summer walrus]

you can enter for FREE, and still gain eth off t0 illuvials if anyone is willing to pay for it

[oblique slate]

!p2w

[tidal garnet]

Illuvium is not P2W (Pay To Win). There are two separate PVP (Player versus Player) Arenas.

• Ranked Arena: In the ranked arena, all levels and augments are normalised for fairness. If you own the 1st stage of an Illuvial, then their higher stage forms will be unlocked for you to use in the ranked arena.

• Leviathan Arena: This is where whales duke it out with no limits. All levels and augments will remain intact. This arena is pay to win and for whales or hardcore grinders.

[versed verge]

They said it won't be in at launch

[gaunt tree]

but that's not fighting for it. its been clear for the past year that it was referring to leviathan

[sonic dagger]

sorry man, they are pretty adamant it wont

[summer walrus]

leviathan isnt that big of a deal to me, im sure there would be other concepts of wagered battles even if it takes a 3rd party to facilitate

[gaunt tree]

i was even told here that it was slowly being phased out but apparently it's not. my only concern is that effects illuvium's image to new investors and players.

[sonic dagger]

Guys it wont happen okay

chris explained it clearly

[versed verge]

Show me please of you don't mind. Because everything I've seen them say, says to me that it's still coming but might be outsourced

[sonic dagger]

ok sec

[summer walrus]

well u fight illuvials in the openworld in hopes to collect the illuvial which is worth ETH, so ur "fighting" to get "illuvials (aka eth)"

[split lintel]

I mean the issues are legal not capability

also Leviathan will exist but not necessarily gambling

[gaunt tree]

interesting interpretation and perspective, i'll give you that. you're not wrong

[versed verge]

Exactly what I thought too. With crypto regulations moving by the week it seems... They'd be smart to delay it and/or outsource to make sure it's compliant legally.

[sonic dagger]

#💬〕general message

[summer walrus]

if there is a pvp arena of any kind, theres gonna be 3rd parties to facilitate the wagers, illuvium probably doesnt want the gambling scrutiny put upon them

[sonic dagger]

ILV not gonna risk it man

[versed verge]

So it'll be difficult to become compliant, not impossible and we're giving up completely. Just it'll be difficult. Mmmm

[sonic dagger]

Just be realistic

[versed verge]

Or pessimistic

[sonic dagger]

Gambling law is not something u wanna take lightly

U need a license

[versed verge]

Whatever floats your boat I suppose

[sonic dagger]

License means KYC

gotta proof yur age

[versed verge]

Same as veve

[gaunt tree]

#💬〕general message

[versed verge]

If people want to participate they'll do it

[summer walrus]

if they were to get license even, they'd have to collect KYC, plus have certain countries excluded

which would bottleneck the userbase

[sonic dagger]

yeap

[gaunt tree]

we need 3rd party. someone start coding

[versed verge]

Exactly it will exist...

[sonic dagger]

ILV is going fully legit

They wont risk the dao

[gaunt tree]

it clearly wiill need to be a 3rd party tho

i will manually manage leviathan wagers for 33% fee

[sonic dagger]

Take everything kieran say with salt

we know how it goes

[gaunt tree]

illuvium escrow service

[summer walrus]

lol a simple wager smart contract wouldnt be hard to make, itll be like a transaction approval and winner takes all. Illuvium plans to have the scholarship program done by a 3rd party if i recall right

[summer walrus]

lmfao, especially on live streams XD

[summer walrus]

if its gonna be done by a 3rd party, im sure there are gonna be a few to compete, especially if there is serious volumes in the wagers

[oblique slate]

just make a mechanism similar to DYDX, everything happens in the smart contract

[versed verge]

3rd party or outsourced... That's just part of game dev... We'll get it one day i reckon. If not then by that time hopefully the game is already a raging success and no one will give a fuck (apart from a select few obviously)

[gaunt tree]

major money making opportunity if you took like a 5% fee and it was reliable

[sonic dagger]

The team knows wager is a big attraction

they will surely say they will work on it

[gaunt tree]

wagering is what sold me on this mainly. whales will be attracted to buying high-priced illuvial to flex in leviathan. even if they suck

[sonic dagger]

yea wager is the one gonna drive the economy

we have random stat rng for that

[mossy grove]

my 2 cents on this, which imo is worth considering

#802110554784661544 message

[sonic dagger]

yea gambling is not gonna happen

it was a pipe dream

[mossy grove]

i mean its not like its hard to setup

[sonic dagger]

its not about the technicality

[gaunt tree]

interesting idea tbh and might be a nice way around it. partner with a company like stake even if their advertising practices are a little shady.

[sonic dagger]

its the law

the team is doxxed

[sage falcon]

Yeah this was my line of thinking as well. Make the betting version of the autobattler an entirely separate game and only allow it in locations where you have approval from regulators.

[sonic dagger]

we are coopersting with regulation

the office is publicly known

illuvium labs is a PTY LTD

[versed verge]

So it won't be available in the states and countries where gambling is illegal.

[mossy grove]

yeah no downside this way, not breaking any laws anywhere this way, continue profiting from this gambling and makes sure that all our games apart from the one thats for gambling illuvium games only, all the rest are family friendly

[sonic dagger]

read what chris said

[versed verge]

Saw it mate. Read it a different way to what you obviously did which is fine

[sonic dagger]

gambling law is a really big deal man

[sage falcon]

Exactly. So if you cant get authorization for the betting in the US or Austrailia then dont allow those IPs to download the client that allows betting. But you can go get regulatory approval in malaysia and saudi arabia and let those IP addresses download it.

[mossy grove]

wer?

[sonic dagger]

they key to success is adoption guys

[versed verge]

I trust this team 100% so I know they'll not mess with illegal things, I also know if there's a way to do it legally then they will find it and execute it. End of in my book.

[sonic dagger]

#💬〕general message

NFT is scam, remember. Now add shady gambling to it

[agile tapir]

This has been addressed by Kierana and some CCs before wasnt it? If its not allowed in your country due to licensing or if its considered gambling etc then they just turn off the feature. It wont be about not getting to download the client or anything.

[sonic dagger]

what vete said is better for the DAO and for the IP. ILV should be child friendly

[versed verge]

You're limiting things to the now though, this project is atleast a 10 year one. Things could very well be (and I believe they definitely will be) a hell of a lot different in a few years.

[sonic dagger]

now ur just defending yur bag

[versed verge]

Troll

[sage falcon]

I was suggesting a separate client because it makes it more clear that there is a separation. If its just a mode that gets turned on and off within the same game client its harder to differentiate between who is and isnt allowed to gamble

[sonic dagger]

Separate client but the same IP

[mossy grove]

agree strongly

[sonic dagger]

Guys ILV sponsored bulldogs

do u think they want to be related by a shady gambling IP?

[sage falcon]

Its totally normal for companies to produce different products for different regions according to the rules and regulations of that locality

[sonic dagger]

U have to go full legit

Like Crown casino

[mossy grove]

its not a gambling focused IP, gambling as a side aspect of the IP

[sonic dagger]

Side betting is what really draw me into this

as much as i wanted, i just cant see it happening

[agile tapir]

Its a good suggestion. Dont think its practicable anyway. Regulatory agencies will come down on entities after receiving complaints so theyre reactive and not pro-active. As long as we deactivated the feature before entering their particular market we shouldnt have an issue in defending our position

[pseudo flint]

https://tenor.com/view/garfield-movie-popcorn-gif-12685884

[sonic dagger]

u want to fight legal battles?

[mossy grove]

tbh im personally not that excited about playing leviathen arena, whether it be for money or without

its an unbalanced game type that advantages whales

id love to gamble on just normal balanced arena battles

[sonic dagger]

we already have enough trouble for being crypto

[mossy grove]

chill bro
no ones rushing anything through

if anything comes about it will be well thought through and legal lol

[sonic dagger]

The key to ILV is adoption, adoption means being the good guy

[agile tapir]

It wont come to that if were prepared to prove that there was no gambling feature in the game client for their jurisdiction

[mossy grove]

u read my suggestion in games ideas?

[agile tapir]

sorry ser. I havent. Care to link? Will read now

Edit: found it. Reading

[sonic dagger]

we'll see

[pseudo flint]

OHH i see my vets response jag being jag again...

[mossy grove]

u actually invested in this project jag?

[sage falcon]

Yeah, it may not be an issue. I mostly figured regulators would need to look into it eventually because a certain number of people will circumvent the blocks with VPNs at which point they will want you to show that you took reasonable steps to prevent people from accessing betting when they werent supposed to. Having a separate client that needs to be downloaded creates a greater barrier to circumventing the rules and shows a good faith effort at compliance.

[sonic dagger]

yes

[versed verge]

Emotionally

[mossy grove]

u just prefer to not suck hopium and play devils advocate?

[pseudo flint]

He jsut like fudding about everything .... including laws world events and other stuff

[sonic dagger]

i know how gambling law works thats all

[versed verge]

And we know this team don't have rocks in their heads.

[mossy grove]

this

[sonic dagger]

wanna bet?

[mossy grove]

really?

i have to stop responding after that level of troll response

[sonic dagger]

Its a pun

[pseudo flint]

and this is a DAO decentrilzed

[sonic dagger]

its fine man

[gaunt tree]

how decentralized are we tho lol come on

[versed verge]

Exactly.

[sonic dagger]

I moved on from the wager things

[mossy grove]

https://tenor.com/view/its-getting-hot-in-here-married-at-first-sight-hot-need-air-sweating-gif-16832320

[agile tapir]

Interesting. So, here's my added value to that concept. Remove gambling altogether in the same client but allow either a 3rd party or separate webhook/api site to allow betting on matches with the ability to view matches live. Concept here is how you bet on horse races lol.

The owners/jockeys of the horses arent gambling. The people spectating are.

[pseudo flint]

I have asked that very question actually .....

[mossy grove]

feel, free to respond this idea in that chat, they do read the #802110554784661544 chat for ideas

[sonic dagger]

and u guys know that gambling license is related to the mafia right

theres money laundry law involved too

[sonic dagger]

let me put that on the table

[mossy grove]

[pseudo flint]

do you need further proof of intent?

[sonic dagger]

yea ill stop

[agile tapir]

ILV wont be getting involved in licenses. Its just too cumbersome to do that worldwide if theres no mass adoption yet. Easier to just turn off the feature than push for a gambling license in all jurisdictions.

[mossy grove]

never assume intent

[pseudo flint]

true.....

[summer walrus]

@sonic dagger must be american, loves their gambling xd

[sonic dagger]

solar still wont believe that regulation is coming for crypto

[mossy grove]

regulation is a good thing tho

[summer walrus]

the US has #1 most online gambling $

[sonic dagger]

tornado cash founder was arrested lol

[summer walrus]

tornado cash wasnt even gambling xd

[sonic dagger]

It was a smart contract lmao

[summer walrus]

scrutiny on any growing asset market is bound to happen, the gov wants a piece

[sonic dagger]

solar wont believe they gonna regulate DAOs

[summer walrus]

they probably will, to a certain extent, its a slow process tho

but DAO's are like corporations, with a different term and slightly different style

[sonic dagger]

regulation is the best thing that will happen to the space

[summer walrus]

im sure in the future someones gonna come up with smth similar to DAO and call it smth different

[sonic dagger]

instution money will flow once regulated

we the plebs cant pump this to $10k

but pension funds can

[summer walrus]

maybe another pandemic with trillions of stimulus checks will pump it to 10k XD

covid69?

[sage falcon]

if daos get big enough fast enough itll be really hard to put negative regulations on them. Its a large space with a lot of money and influence already and if we can get large scale adoption there wont be anyone in favor of restricting daos.

[sonic dagger]

u know the whole crypto space is smaller than microsoft market cap

All they want is tax man

and they gonna get it

[summer walrus]

and microsoft started in 1975, the first cryptocurrency was ecash, created by digicash in 1990

so microsoft was still before crypto existed xd

[sonic dagger]

im putting it into perspective

[summer walrus]

but still, youd never be able to derive 1.9trill off microsoft stock, unless someone were to buy them out even then there wont be enough liquidity to pay for it

[sonic dagger]

goverment wants in because for once they can litterally track everything u do

all the CEXs kneeled

CBDCs are coming

[summer walrus]

theyre centralized with a specific point of failure, ofc they have to kneel or they just get banned and blocked, not to mention the legal actions

[sonic dagger]

CEXs gonna run the nodes

in the end BTC will be the only PoW

tornado cash was really a hard blow man

[little cloud]

Hi yallll I've just heard about this project! How late to the party am I lol

[summer walrus]

there will be others, POW is said to be the most secure consensus mechanism, so even if it doesnt have the high value in tokens, the tech is a valuable resource. There are always going to be competing chains tho, even if they dont get as big as BTC. other POW rn are Dogecoin, Litecoin, Bitcoin cash, ext

[summer walrus]

Game economy hasnt started, so youre still early.

[little cloud]

Oh amazing! Looking forward to learning more

[sonic dagger]

whats the point of DeFi if they can tracked u down and arrest u for writing a smart contract?

people think oh we are decentralized, read the news lol

[summer walrus]

There should still be some regulation imo. While ur actions may not be "illegal" by creating the code, the users of the code conduct illegal activities with your knowledge, so aren't you as liable as the user if youre facilitating this?

Like a coder making a scam contract that robs ur wallet, but you are just the coder, not the scammer. Is the coder just as liable as the scammer?

[sonic dagger]

u know anyone who use tornado can be jailed for 30 years

[summer walrus]

key word is if caught xd

[sonic dagger]

cmon man

[summer walrus]

there are tons of "laws" that are hardly enforced, while it may in some situations

[sonic dagger]

no one is hosting tornado site anymore tho

ser if ur reading this, i am against tornado

[summer walrus]

FBI OPEN UP

[sonic dagger]

swear to god

[gaunt tree]

fbi is in this discord

[summer walrus]

🧢

they gonna confiscate all your jpegs

[sonic dagger]

im trying to tell these guys to follow the law

[sonic dagger]

pls dnt

its all i have

[mossy grove]

guys honestly this is all straight #799010390201466880 or #795845536128303175

can we keep the #💬〕general clean for general illuvium based conversation and people saying hi and hanging out

maybe request a #legal-debate chat

[sonic dagger]

hmmmm

[summer walrus]

illuvium

wen game

why 76 ilv

[sonic dagger]

nevaaaa

[rigid reef]

just a couple of guys shooting the shit about DOA seems pretty general

[summer walrus]

wen public beta

[sonic dagger]

nevaaaa

[mossy grove]

#💰〕token discussion in this chat

kek

[summer walrus]

wen froggy come back to beta

[sonic dagger]

wen roadmap

[summer walrus]

wen update illuvium

[sonic dagger]

wen rug

[summer walrus]

now

jus cuz u said it

[sonic dagger]

rugby

I wasnt finish

wen rugby

[mossy grove]

ok im out of here

[sonic dagger]

good call

[mossy grove]

idk how fraggy puts up with us tbh

[sonic dagger]

[rigid reef]

fraggy would die of boredom without deez guys

[final plume]

She sleeps

Otherwise it's over

[sonic dagger]

guys

[final plume]

Both banned

[sonic dagger]

U know NFD?

[final plume]

Nfdeez nuts

[sonic dagger]

[sonic dagger]

who ?

[gaunt tree]

if fraggy was here rn we would be feeling were wrath

[sonic dagger]

fraggy is a dear friend

[rigid reef]

seemed like pretty solid chat to me

[sonic dagger]

but not as mod

[rigid reef]

no golden shower discussion

[sonic dagger]

shes killin the vibe

no offense fraggu

[summer walrus]

Banned by fraggy

[azure narwhal]

did i miss anything special today

[rigid reef]

https://tenor.com/view/spooky-season-obey-stay-asleep-consume-gif-15223051

[summer walrus]

u missed me, im very special

[azure narwhal]

i find this unsettling

[sonic dagger]

yea

Lets bury it

[gaunt tree]

wen holo jersey nfts

[sonic dagger]

kek

[azure narwhal]

i already got all 10 wym

[sonic dagger]

u bought them

[summer walrus]

in #holo jersey chat

[sonic dagger]

Why

[azure narwhal]

did they get airdropped already

[summer walrus]

how u get 10, when theres only 10 and i have em

mwhaahah

[azure narwhal]

i havent been paying attention i just got one

[azure narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/no-nooo-noooo-omg-omg-no-gif-12379687

[spice prawn]

Where can we go to see Grant doing live stream work -please?

[sonic dagger]

usually at night

Sydney time

[gaunt tree]

bruh where is the kukka cave recording

[rigid reef]

as you should

[azure narwhal]

in cc-streaming but he isnt streaming rn

[spice prawn]

ty

[azure narwhal]

luckily i usually onyl sleep 4 hours

but i have walking pneumonia rn so energy is hard to accumulate

[sonic dagger]

walking pneumonia?

u had covid?

[azure narwhal]

its not as serious as classic pneumonia, can be caused by covid, i was negative, my son must have gotten a virus and passed it to me

and when i get sick i dont change any of my habits which is probably not the best

so ive been getting worse and hes been getting better

fuck them kids

https://tenor.com/view/fuck-them-ki-fuckthem-fuckthemki-gif-18750304

[sonic dagger]

damnn

Thats hard man

GWS

i can imagine its hard to breathe

shortness

phglem

[rigid reef]

would like to hear this too

[gaunt tree]

i've asked like 3 times and no one answers. story of my life

[rigid reef]

don't they know we starvin

[terse falcon]

Liinky infoullivial posted it in general (youtube link) like hours ago

In case you guys miss the random jump in talk from Aaron today on Discord. Huge update 39 min of talk

I posted a video with audio of the conversation here--> #🎨〕community-content
#🎨〕community-content message

That was his message

[stiff mist]

safe to assume a second delivery of the bulldogs nft sometime soon? I ordered yesterday but only once I seen people get theirs and like the final 24 hour notice

[covert violet]

oh you didn't get yours yet?

[gaunt tree]

Did you use a different wallet? You got confirmation?

[stiff mist]

Is it on L1 or L2?

[gaunt tree]

Eth

[sage falcon]

i imagine they'll do it when they announce the 10 holo winners

[stiff mist]

Yeah that’s what I’m thinking. But just kind of want a little clarification to ease my mind

[near pier]

Kids are gross

Lol

Touching everything

And licking their hands

But

Builds strong immune systems

https://tenor.com/view/kid-lick-licking-taste-gif-16583695

Nothing like licking Disney land rails

[agile tapir]

Jeez. That's sending shivers down my spine just watching that

[dull laurel]

how long until this game comes out fully?

[agile tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/ogvhs-crystal-ball-prediction-future-predict-gif-18199743

[dull laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/come-to-me-here-eat-gif-14886249

[sonic dagger]

juicy germs

[vast spear]

Does this artist have good skill ?
Does Illuvium still looking for artist ?

[covert violet]

not that my vote matters, but I say "yes"

[junior gyro]

Looked wicked

[sonic dagger]

@forest warren looking forward for the treasury to start selling

[ionic stag]

lucius mentioned its in process waiting on mine as well

[atomic badge]

when do you guys think is a good time to buy ILV?

its not going well against the layer 1 token Eth for a while

token release the cause?

[sage falcon]

Yeah the unlocks are causing us to lose value against ETH right now. Personally I’m just accumulating ETH for the time being and I’ll switch to ILV closer to when the game releases and we see ILV start to gain on ETH again.

[atomic badge]

any eta on when?

am i right in thinking 95% of the profits go to stakers and 5 % to land holders?

is there a graph showing the token release?

it's timeline?

[lusty mantle]

No I’m not

[lusty mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/drinking-inna-drunk-drinking-wine-drink-gif-16256497

[lusty mantle]

Check the pinned messages in #💰〕token

[sage falcon]

Gm fraggu! How’s your weekend going?

[lusty mantle]

No no no no no, no gm yet. I just had to pee

[sage falcon]

Goodnight then!

[hot musk]

Good night everyone and Happy Friday!

[lusty mantle]

Sleep tight scar

[hot musk]

you too!

[near pier]

Scar got access

https://tenor.com/view/good-gif-25469336

[near pier]

Fraggy drunk

?

[exotic pier]

Im a little confused on buying land. Do i deposit eth from metamask into immutable x then buy land?

[lusty mantle]

Nope

[junior gyro]

Hmm... what drink would cause people get drunk quickly

[violet sundial]

vanilla extract

[near pier]

Intravenous

[sage falcon]

Long Island iced tea

[junior gyro]

Oh yeah.. Mike's hard lemonade, most manly drink

(Nervous laughing)

[summer abyss]

connect your meta with imx first.. so you can deposit eth to imx from meta, try with 0.0001 eth if you afraid first

[lusty mantle]

You need to connect your MetaMask to IMX and deposit funds in your IMX wallet

[exotic pier]

Ok

[boreal gale]

From Hard Rock Cafe, they are lethal.

[sage falcon]

There’s this bar where I live called the mercantile saloon that makes the strongest drinks I’ve ever seen. They fill the pint glass with ice, pour in liquor until it’s full then they do a tiny splash of coke that mostly runs off the side because it’s already too full.

[sonic dagger]

drink at home

[sage falcon]

If you order a triple jack on the rocks it’s a literal pint glass of whiskey with ice.

[sonic dagger]

ok this is creepy as hell

thats not cool man

[boreal gale]

What's that drink where they drop a shot in the pint? A Yager Bomb?

[junior gyro]

Just asking to see what I should get to drink lol

[sonic dagger]

jagerbomb

[sonic dagger]

oh ok

[boreal gale]

It's your drink!

[sonic dagger]

cheapest
Bacardi 151 + jagerbomb

b151 will get u drunk

Jagerbomb will keep u all nite

throw some ABC if u like

absinthe, bacardi and citron

[sage falcon]

There’s also Irish car bombs which are better. Don’t order that in Ireland though 🤣

[sonic dagger]

ok lets not get the fbi here shall we

[sage falcon]

It’s a drink🤣

[sonic dagger]

this morning we talked about tornado cash

and now ur car bomb

Ser i am a law abiding citizen

[sage falcon]

Fill a shot glass with half Jameson and half baileys. Then drop it into a half pint of Guinness. Tastes like chocolate milk.

[sonic dagger]

i condone these guys

[sage falcon]

*condemn

[karmic lichen]

condemn who?

[sonic dagger]

ohh

Right

condemn

yes

that

[sonic dagger]

hw ru man

ring of power doesnt look promising

i guess we saw that coming after the hobbits

[boreal gale]

I'm good, doing OMAD, was slowly dying with the chicken sandwich pics yesterday

[sonic dagger]

dammn

thats tough

how do u feel

omad prob the best

lower risk of colon cancer

[boreal gale]

Each day is getting easier, after about midday you feel torn. Your body is producing HGH so you feel pumped, but your stomach is a bag of knives, so it's a bit conflicting.

[sonic dagger]

diabetes

did u start with intermittent

i start running again this week

best feelin ever

[boreal gale]

I've done IF on and off before, just went straight into OMAD. Have you seen the episode of Homer when he ate too much chilli at the cookout?

[sonic dagger]

my wife is happier too

[sage falcon]

I watched the first 2 episodes and I liked it. The diversity was a little forced but it was just casting. The story seems cool.

[sonic dagger]

i havent work out in awhile didnt realized
cardio = better erect

[boreal gale]

Happy wife, happy life.

[sonic dagger]

i havent

[boreal gale]

2pm to 6pm each day is the hardest, I've been playing Demon Souls to distract myself, I'm punishing my body I may as well punish my brain as well 🤣

[sonic dagger]

i saw clips on tiktok, hw do u compare it with house of dragon?

[sonic dagger]

so u dnt eat snacks at all?

just water?

[boreal gale]

Water and Herbal Tea, no snacks.

[sonic dagger]

damn

thats mental

[boreal gale]

It's a bit like meditation.

[sonic dagger]

i always have something in my side table

snack bar, chips

Im trying to cut them tho

coffee helps with the withdrawal

i heard green coffee works

i should give up coffee

[boreal gale]

Coffee with a bit of MCT Oil can go a long way if you're about to fail, try that first.

[sonic dagger]

MCT?

[boreal gale]

It's a type of Coconut Oil that doesn't break Ketosis, if that's your thing, but I've just been eating normal food.

OMAD + Ketosis is a place I don't want to go 🤣

[sonic dagger]

talking about forced diversity, have u guys seen bridgerton?

im all about black lives matter but cmon

[karmic lichen]

Try trail mix with just fruits and nuts. No chocolate/yogurt chip shenanigan's

unless you are allergic lol

[sonic dagger]

they still have lots of sugar right

i try to eat oats when im hungry

[karmic lichen]

But, apples have like 60-70 calories and when i eat one im full

oats are good

[sonic dagger]

and they have this shirataki

[karmic lichen]

dark grains is what you want, fibers since they break down slower

[sonic dagger]

i like brown rice

kinda hard to cook right tho

[karmic lichen]

Quinoa is awesome too

[sonic dagger]

too much effort

mid dinner u feel like eating ants

[sage falcon]

Oh it’s 1000x better than house of the dragon.

[sonic dagger]

i wanted to try vegetarian, but turns out they have nore calories

[sonic dagger]

really

Ok ill watch it tonight

its a ribeye night

[boreal gale]

What is?

[sonic dagger]

leg day, ribeye, whisky and a good lay

then rings of power of course

i got my day planned out

[lusty mantle]

Did you know we have a food channel

[sonic dagger]

yes

[sage falcon]

The lord of the rings show

[sonic dagger]

but it makes me sad

[sage falcon]

And ribeye day is best day.

[sonic dagger]

food channel reminds me of our fallen knight

our lost friend

he who must not be named

you know who

[karmic lichen]

I think my fav food show is Chopped

[sonic dagger]

lmao

yea 2 potheads cooking

oh wait

Thats not chopped

uhhh

jon favreu and

The chef show !

jon favreu and choi

that show is funny as hell

[karmic lichen]

Iron Chef is also a good one

[sonic dagger]

u can tell that they are baked

uhhhh

[karmic lichen]

that asian guys facial expressions always crack me up

[sonic dagger]

thats racist

[quick dragon]

hi

[sonic dagger]

wht do u want

[violet sundial]

Hi!

🙂

[boreal gale]

Welcome, how can we help you?

[lusty mantle]

I got out of bed all excited for a Artemis stream

[violet sundial]

for tomorrow? what what time is it for you? lol

[lusty mantle]

Should have checked BEFORE I got out of bed

[karmic lichen]

Have you seen the show? He is doing them on purpose, he is in character lol. Not racist at all bro

[lusty mantle]

For some reason I had in my head that you would be on now

[violet sundial]

I mean I can hop on and stream if you wanna chill 🙂

I got an hour

[lusty mantle]

Let's go

[violet sundial]

let me just pop things up 😄

[sonic dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/squints-david-rose-david-dan-levy-schitts-creek-gif-20793344

[karmic lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/iron-chef-mango-battle-ready-food-gif-3545835

[sonic dagger]

just normal asian male

pretty neutral expression

[karmic lichen]

At this point I’m going to assume your are trolling.

Have a good night.

[sonic dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/objection-law-and-order-svu-gif-11804465

[shut torrent]

Anyone has any idea on when the bulldogs nft will go oit and when 10 lucky ppl will be chosen for holo nft?

[mossy grove]

@violet sundial is Streaming on twitch rn 👀

[lusty mantle]

[covert violet]

the standard bulldogs nfts went out today not sure about the holos

[lusty mantle]

They went out 2 days ago 😛

[covert violet]

haha i'm always late

[lusty mantle]

Is that how you got that mugshot made?

[shut torrent]

So why dont i have one ...

[lusty mantle]

You ordered a jersey?

[shut torrent]

Yea

[lusty mantle]

Did you order it on the bulldog website or on the Illuvium website

[shut torrent]

Imnsure theyll deliver but im wondering how do i know when it arrives

Followed the link for from the holo givaway twitter

Illuvium

[lusty mantle]

Oh then you just gotta wait a bit longer

[shut torrent]

I dont have to do anything right

[lusty mantle]

Nope, nothing. How easy is that

[shut torrent]

Itll show on my metamask itsleft

I mean add it as nft or smth

On metamask

[shut torrent]

I feel like a dump kid with that answer

Just a pat on the head and itll do

[lusty mantle]

People usually watch NFT's on opensea

If you DM me your wallet I can double check if you already got it or not

[shut torrent]

Its not on my opensea yet either

Btw

Its ok itll just probably take few more days

[lusty mantle]

Yes, nothing to worry about. Not all have been send out

[lapis tinsel]

Check last night and still nothin.. on way home from work now and thats gonna be the first thing I check😅

[lusty mantle]

It depends when you ordered the Jersey. I ordered it 22 days ago so that's why I got one of the first batch

[lapis tinsel]

Aaahhhhh, that'd make sense👌🏽 wednesday or thursday it was. Im not trippin about not getting it, just want to see it so bad😅 ill try chillout😅

[royal saffron]

@lusty mantle

[lusty mantle]

Finger slipped

[royal saffron]

ok that hurts my eyes

[forest warren]

Selling what ? Ilv ?

[sonic dagger]

yes

[junior blaze]

Who's selling ILV?! 😮

Fraggy?

[azure narwhal]

Hey guys I finally was able to get my second video uploaded! If you want to check out some overworld gameplay from one of grants last streams check it out:) #🎨〕community-content

[lusty mantle]

@rare badger is dumping his tokens again

[sonic dagger]

$69.69

[junior blaze]

I'll put it on in the background while I get some work done now

[rare badger]

sweet revenge 🤣

[azure narwhal]

[junior gyro]

Ohh $60 dollar ilv soon time to stock (jokes)

[sonic dagger]

its kinda expected

[sage falcon]

Yeah $60 is starting to look like a possiblity unless ETH manages to hold over $1500 before and after the merge

[zenith fable]

thnx for recording this

[lusty mantle]

Feel free to discuss this in #💰〕token

[sage falcon]

But I wanna discuss it with Jag and he isnt allowed in token 😢

[lusty mantle]

Ofc he is allowed in Token, is just too lazy to click on a different channel and wants to talk in the same channel all day

[sage falcon]

I mean general is kinda nice

no slow mod

mode

[azure narwhal]

Of course!

[lusty mantle]

That can be changed

[sage falcon]

I prefer slow mode.

Makes it easier to read

but being able to

[azure narwhal]

Please

[sage falcon]

do 4 word messages is fun too

[azure narwhal]

No

[sage falcon]

See. Figment gets it. 1 word messages

[lusty mantle]

I think it's time for a nap Scoot

[azure narwhal]

I’m going to draw an atlas on a shirt and send it to vetemor to wear on stream

[lusty mantle]

I think somebody was already going to do that

[sage falcon]

Its past 11 pm so at this point a nap would just be bedtime

[azure narwhal]

Is it 11:23

[sage falcon]

No. 11:24

[lusty mantle]

Goodnight

[azure narwhal]

Hello time zone friend

[sage falcon]

Oh im not going to bed yet dont worry. Just got back from the bar so I have some energy still./

[sage falcon]

And hello! Are you in the american version of our time zone?

[azure narwhal]

PST

[sage falcon]

You ever get a burger at the squeeze in?

[junior gyro]

Nope how is it?

[azure narwhal]

No, no I have not

[sage falcon]

Its delicious. So much cheese. If youre ever around central california you gotta try it out.

OK... I gotta ask though. Why are you wearing hoodies in the middle of summer while you record your videos?

[upbeat quarry]

Hello everyone!

[lusty mantle]

[sage falcon]

Hi Fuzzy man!

(or lady)

[sonic dagger]

im too afraid to chat in token

[tame robin]

Is the supply schedule graph correct? so more tokens are being released now?

[upbeat quarry]

Thanks for the gracious welcome 🙏 is this a game we can play yet?

[tame robin]

the supply staking graph on coin gecko, i can't post the link

[upbeat quarry]

I just found this on am advertisement

[sonic dagger]

theres a demo called pb1

[junior blaze]

What's good my dude!

[sage falcon]

Token unlocks are ongoing. There is some info pinned in #💰〕token about unlocks. Coingecko has an accurate circulating supply but the unlocked supply is much larger than the circulating.

[sonic dagger]

IZ alpha is coming maybe

[sage falcon]

I hate to be the pessimistic one but I think Illuvitars are coming first. And i dont think Illuvitars are coming this month.

[lusty mantle]

Game is currently in Private Beta 1

[tidal garnet]

You can register for the closed beta through this link: https://play.illuvium.io/arena

You can improve your chances of being selected for the beta by:

1. Becoming a ranger (Level 5 in the server)
2. Joining # twitter-role and promoting Illuvium on twitter
3. Participating in (and winning) our weekly trivia competition

[sonic dagger]

i already set my mind for october

an update is all im asking

[upbeat quarry]

Awesome thanks so much

[lusty mantle]

A timeline should be posted in the next devblog

[upbeat quarry]

How do I rank up on the server?

[tame robin]

ok cool thanks scoot i'll check it out, although to be clear i'm not referring to the info at the top, could you go to the tokenomics tab, then scroll down a little, then there's a little graph with "supply schedule" that's what i'm referring to. Does that seem right to you?

[sonic dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/maybe-not-i-dont-know-maybe-we-dont-know-gif-15621900

i think hes looking for lelahel's graph

[sage falcon]

No thats wrong.

[lusty mantle]

You just talk (don't spam)

[tame robin]

ok cool thanks for clarifying. I foudn the graph in #💰〕token very helpful. So it seems the tokens are already in the supply and they're not minting new tokens, but they're just not accessible until those dates pass. Is my understand correct? 🙂 thanks

[sonic dagger]

they are minting

1m token to go

[tame robin]

oh i see, what category does that come under?

[sonic dagger]

yield farming

[sage falcon]

Its unfortunately pretty complicated. Some tokens are minted and locked while other tokens are not minted and unlocked.

The unlocks that are happening right now are from seed investors, staking rewards and Team unlocks.

This post I made a couple days ago might help out a bit.
https://discordapp.com/channels/760344898200666112/869632853598699611/1013597004154286164

[tame robin]

right i see a bit more, ok thanks scoot. So seems like massive gains long term, although seems in short term with unlocking of new tokens you would assume high selling action wouldn't you?

[sonic dagger]

mid 2023 would be a good entry point

[tame robin]

without a mass of new investors until game is realeased 🙂 ?

[sonic dagger]

thats year 2 of the bear market

[tame robin]

you'd assume if new coins get unlocked for average person, probably good time to sell to lock in som gains, although long to ilv gonna be massive 🙂 !!

[sage falcon]

If you look at the ILV/ETH ratio we are in a consistent downtrend because of the unlocks. Over time the unlocks will slow down so eventually we (hopefully) should end up with an ILV/ETH uptrend and that would be the time to buy ILV.

There is a pretty decent APY for staking though so that can help offset the token volatility.

[tame robin]

do we know what the % of each is so far? or how to we check that

[sonic dagger]

shorting the token has been good profit ngl

[tame robin]

becuase the goal is to get to 50:50?

[sage falcon]

I dont have it handy but staking the ILV/ETH LP is around 100% APY

[tame robin]

sorry i mean to amount ratio of ilv/eth, because didn't it start at 80/20 and goal to get to 50/50 or someethign?

[sonic dagger]

kaesar calculated that not locking now and staying in eth actually more beneficial

yep

[sage falcon]

Currently ILV is .048 ETH down from a high of .4 ETH.
Theres really not a 'goal' price other than as high as possible.

[sonic dagger]

that 100% apr doesnt offset the decline

[tame robin]

how did you find this chart?

[sage falcon]

Well that assumes the downtrend continues. So its correct till it isnt

[tame robin]

right gotcha gotcha

[sonic dagger]

ILV/ETH coingecko

[tame robin]

yeah no one knows when pull market starting hey

[sonic dagger]

imo it will continue the downtrend until launch

imo Q3 23 if we are hopeful

[sage falcon]

Some VC could decide tomorrow they want to invest $50 million and double the price in a heartbeat. Probably not likely but theres no guarantee that the downtrend continues for any amount of time either.

[sonic dagger]

im beginning to move my expectation for 2024 launch, timing the next halving

[tame robin]

yeah great thoughts, seems like you want to get in just in case kind of thing

but bear market of all crypto is in full swing so hard to say for any token

[sage falcon]

Did you listen to the kukkas cave recording with Aaron? He sounded pretty agressive about deadlines.

[tame robin]

bu seems like a great investment long term for sure ! 🙂

[sonic dagger]

tbf digidaigaku just recently raised $200m

[royal saffron]

I wish we had these future seeing people back at the bull market top. So we could all enjoy profits. but then everybody saw endless bull market. Now we are in a bear market, and we are seeing endless bear market huh

[tame robin]

oh nice super cool, where was that recording 🙂 ? would love take a listen on updates

[sonic dagger]

i dnt believe in words anymore, i believe in results

[tame robin]

yeah true lol 🙂

[sonic dagger]

IZ alpha was supposed to be 4 weeks after land sale

then 8 weeks

then septembooooor

yet here we are

[tame robin]

i do agree with logic, only really get one chance to release the game, so i'd rather extend timelines then release something subpar tbh. My preference at least

[sonic dagger]

yea best to build in the bear market

thats why im starting to expect 2024 launch

[tame robin]

i wouldn't mind a 2024 launch tbh, but that' just seems like a long time away, surely team will have it down by 2023 sometime latest

[sonic dagger]

dont hold your breath

[tame robin]

seems like late 2022 or early 2023 could be a posisblility frmo what they've said recently though

but i'm new here so i'm catching up on whats new

[sonic dagger]

2022 is just humanly impossible

[tame robin]

oh really? how come you think that ?

[sonic dagger]

grant is still adding sands in halycon lol

[tame robin]

don't mean to ask a silly question, but whats that?

lol

[sonic dagger]

just watch the stream, you'll be the judge

so far we are still doing art stuff

so much to be done

[tame robin]

could you link it? which stream we talking 🙂 ?

[junior gyro]

Need that ilz

[sonic dagger]

and we havent touched game economics

why would we want to launch in the bear market?

while people are struggling to pay gas

[sage falcon]

It just depends what state they are willing to release the game in. Overworld isnt necessary IMO other than the ability to capture, as long as the autobattler is fully functional it could release.

Personally I dont care at all how polished overworld is

[tame robin]

which stream you talking about 🙂 ? would love to check it out

[upbeat quarry]

I'd like to see link also 🙂

[sonic dagger]

grant's

[sonic dagger]

imo it's better to build

[sage falcon]

Start here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DGX0gSiF8g

[boreal gale]

That's an excellent video.

[tame robin]

thanks, but i'm talking about what @sonic dagger means about updates. I've seen a lot of the regular videos already 🙂

[sage falcon]

Then check out some of the stuff here
https://www.youtube.com/c/Illuvium

[sonic dagger]

he wants grant's stream

did anyone recorded it?

[tame robin]

should i just youtube?

[tame robin]

yeah exactly

thanks

[sonic dagger]

it was a discord stream

not sure its recorded

[lusty mantle]

Grant sometimes just streams his screen here in discord while he is working

[tame robin]

oh you mean the one a few days ago?

[sonic dagger]

by u can hang out here and wait for the next stream

[sage falcon]

The one Jag is talking about was not recorded I dont think. I was talking about this one but if you arent really up to date it might not make a ton of sense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7BehhE4Yl0

[tame robin]

oh cool thanks! yeah i've actually watched this one already 🙂

[sage falcon]

My food is here so I gotta go. Welcome to the new guys!

[sonic dagger]

for transparency , the game was originally planned for launch Q3 21

[versed verge]

Thank God we have you here 🙄