lore

[balmy ocean]

They kept him under the great hall

[umbral mortar]

Maybe they burned it or threw it in the sea. Or vanished it

[balmy ocean]

Nope

[umbral mortar]

After the battle they put his body away from people in a side chamber

But after that idk

[balmy ocean]

It remains in the castle

[umbral mortar]

It's not confirmed what happened wirh his body

[boreal shuttle]

Maksimilian is correct. It was moved to a side chamber out of respect for the victims of the Battle of Hogwarts and we don't know what happened to it afterwards.

[balmy ocean]

Omega took it and gonna use it as a mechanic in Phase 5 in top

[boreal shuttle]

Random FFXIV moment, I'll take it.

[balmy ocean]

😄 you are welcome

[prisma wedge]

you know, funny thing about immortality is that it can lead to "worse fates than death".

Im reminded of this immortal anime baddie that got covered in molten gold and sunk to the bottom of the sea.

[worthy trench]

Yah and then there's things like what does extreme age do to memory and perception of time etc

cos those get affected the older one gets

scientists even theorized what it would do those who live over 100s or 1000s of years

not to mention eventually sheer boredom will kick in

and you'll just be tired of living just from that cos you've done everything you want or can do or see

and you'll just wanna know what comes next

if anything

and eventually the earth is getting boiled anyway so enjoy living through that

[rustic pagoda]

@viral fox houses are right here!

[viral fox]

oh yeah I meant I wish we could learn more about them with like a movie or book or game it's really cool that they set up the setting for Ilvermorny but we don't get much of it

[rustic pagoda]

yeah very true, and same, but Pottermore is all we got 😩

[modern moth]

Is there anything interesting that happened in the 1890's?

[boreal shuttle]

Depends on what you mean by interesting - in the sense that it could affect events or generally feature in HL? If so, the seventieth Wizarding Schools Potions Championship took place in 1890, which could definitely make for a fun easter egg.
Another possible easter egg could be something that happened just a year prior to the events of HL, at least in the PoA video game: the capture and subsequent death of a vampire by the name of Herbert Varney, who preyed upon London women in the 1880s.

There are other things, e.g. in 1892 the Chudley Cannons won the League Cup for the last time up to the present day, but since HL probably only covers a single year, we most likely won't get to hear about it. And in the very same year Albus Dumbledore started attending Hogwarts.

Generally the time period has a mostly clean slate, which is part of the reason why they decided on it for the setting.

[shut cove]

How do we know this much

Whats your soucs

[boreal shuttle]

Wonderbook: Book of Potions, Secrets of Dumbledore, PoA video game, Quidditch Through the Ages, Deathly Hallows book - in order of reference.

[steep copper]

Not the fandom website? 😏

[boreal shuttle]

The wiki can only ever be a point of reference, it's worthless as a source on its own. And I generally use other sites if I need to double check information in general because the wiki includes a lot of head canon speculation.

[prisma wedge]

agreed...

wikis can be surprisingly bad sources of information. I say this as someone who was written to the World of darkness wiki for a bit. I stopped doing it cause I was frustrated by some people almost immediately rewriting my works with suspect information and bad grammar.

[turbid obsidian]

are the rules of wizard chess different from real chess

[olive swan]

Probably not.

[modern moth]

Ty

[prisma wedge]

not to my knowledge

That reminded me that Ron's biggest claim to fame in the movies was probably using Scandinavian defense in philosophers stone

[grim gyro]

Ya

[jovial scaffold]

FAX

[safe wedge]

Does anyone know if it's possible for a wizard or witch to disconnect themselves from magic and become a squib?

[lilac chasm]

I dont think this is what is intended for the game , when you play you are a hero of some sort

[stuck epoch]

we dont have anyone trying so we dont tho i dont see any reason as to why you would wanna do that

[heady kraken]

💀💀💀

Will we meet dumbledore

[cyan pendant]

How long was Peter pretending to be Rons rat?

@heady kraken he may not have been born yet

[stuck epoch]

he is born at that time but 9 years old so no we wont see him

[stuck epoch]

~13 years

but not exclusively rons rat

[heady kraken]

HL is setin the year 1890 , Dumbledore was born in 1881. So he is about 9 years old

[heady kraken]

maybe a cameo haha

[cyan pendant]

Whats the minimum age again?

[gilded fog]

oh so that means the character can be a senior to albus

[heady kraken]

i think its 11

[heady kraken]

we start at our fitfh year i believe

so yeah probably when we in 7th year dumbledore will be eligible to attend hogwarts

[cyan pendant]

The story is only taking place in 1 year right?

[frank jewel]

Yep, seems very likely from everything the devs have said, but they have not straight up confirmed it

[cyan pendant]

I wish it was more than just that

Maybe added content later?

[frank jewel]

Sequels :)

[eager crow]

Thats the hope. Seeing how well the game is selling, I'd assume this is being considered heavily.

[cyan pendant]

It would be stupid to go this hard into making a game thats pretty short lol

[open glade]

The game is still worth 100 hours of content, wouldn't call that short

[frank jewel]

A year really isn't that short.

[open glade]

And it would require to make younger npc growing

[cyan pendant]

I prefer a game like this to have over 1100 play hours

[turbid obsidian]

very unrealistic exppectation

[cyan pendant]

Gotta enjoy the game somehow

I hate playing a game i can beat in a week

Feels like a waste of money

[frank jewel]

You can beat most games in a week

Can't think of many single player games you can't beat in a week

[turbid obsidian]

theoretically you can beat most games in 3 days

i mean, maybe just spend less time gaming, that way you can enjoy a game longer ig

[prisma wedge]

12 years iirc in the movies at least

"Unusually long lifespan for a rat" was said in the movies

[naive scarab]

Out of a single player game???

You’re nuts lad

It takes like

100%ing Skyrim 5 times to get that

[cyan pendant]

I beat games too fast and i dont play many games so I get bored fast if i beat it and its over within a week

[frank jewel]

What game dosen’t fall under this category though? A thousand hours…

[cyan pendant]

The old GTA games had allot of side shhiet to do that took up lots of time so I'd prefer longer

[frank jewel]

None of them took up a thousand hours though

The 100% speedrun for San Andreas is like 11 hours, if we don't skip cutscenes and actually play normally you could probably get to 100 hours. But to play 1000 hours you'd have to really go out of your way

[cyan pendant]

Im not including speed running i mean thoroughly completing every thing and not skipping any dialog or cutscenes

[frank jewel]

Like I said, even then, you're looking at maybe 100 hours, not a 1000.

[cyan pendant]

1000 is the goal

Thats why we do campaign runs from beginning of the series to current

[umbral mortar]

I was reading HBP, and noticed a mention of ancient magic. I wonder what secrets Tom wanted to uncover? Maybe cursed vaults, but that's from Hphm amyways

[frank jewel]

Later Dumbledore mentions that he thought Voldemort was after the magical artifacts from the founders. Like the cup, diadem and even sword

[wary monolith]

is wandless magic an example of ancient magic

[frank jewel]

No

Wandless magic is just normal magic, but much harder, since there's nothing to channel the magic through

[stuck epoch]

You need atleast a finger to channel magic cant just cast a spell from nothing in WW

Would be cooler tho

[long linden]

No problem, i got 1500 hours in Witcher 3 tbh

[naive scarab]

I’ve heard that’s good

But I’ve never spent more than 50 hours in a single player game

[zealous plinth]

I'm sorry I dont think I could ever spend 1000 hours on a singleplayer game I dont think i'd spend more than 100 tbh

[naive scarab]

Neither

[zealous plinth]

if that makes me not a fan so be it whatever I've never claimed to be a fan of anything anyway

[frank jewel]

I have 1000 hours in single player games, but I wouldn't expect a game to provide me 1000 hours of content. Those would be entirely different things

[long linden]

Depends on how much you like the game. In the case of witcher, i played all the games and read the books and everything, i think you‘ld call me nerd 🧐

[naive scarab]

Woah it’s ok chill bruh

[zealous plinth]

🤷‍♂️

I'm just putting it out before people get ideas lol

[naive scarab]

I see the appeal but I never had anything to do with it

I’ve only completed a couple of single player games in my whole life I get bored way too easily

[long linden]

If you like rpg and fantasy, i deeply recommend it, but be aware that it‘ll steal your lifetime

[naive scarab]

I have like 4K hours in a game but

That’s multiplayer

More like 5 tbh

But I played Skyrim, loved it but never completed it, gta 5, never completed it

Played halo since halo 3 and never played the story

However I have completed a couple of story based games but

It requires

A lot of love for me to stay interested

[frank jewel]

I have close to 2k hours in Vice City on steam, and that's probably a small fraction of my actual Vice City playtime

[naive scarab]

I have no doubt Hogwarts legacy I will complete

[frank jewel]

Probably closer to 10k hours tbh, since I've been playing it regularly since I was like 13, and I'm closing in on 29 now

[long linden]

We‘ll see, im a HP fan since i was 5 years old so im hyped as f for legacy

[naive scarab]

Yeah same

[naive scarab]

I’ve only played gta 5 LOL

I maybe have an hour playtime on gta 4

[frank jewel]

I have over 1k hours in GTA V too, but most of that was online

[naive scarab]

I probably have 50 hours alone just riding around on the street blazer

[frank jewel]

Pretty sure 50% of my time was in either the Bati 801 or Hackouchu

[zealous plinth]

Hakuchou for me loved that motorcycle

I didnt have much time in GTA maybe liek 50 hours and that was online

[frank jewel]

Hakouchou had like the top speed, and was good for wheelies

so perfect for what I like to do

[zealous plinth]

oh 113.8 according to steam but still not that much

I only played online

[frank jewel]

Should try the single player, it's pretty fun too. Though ironically feels very grounded compared to online these days

[naive scarab]

Was my whole GTA 5 experience

[zealous plinth]

lol

[cedar rock]

So Volde made 6 horcruxs right? but HP was an accidental one, making 7

but in the flashback with Sluggy

he mentions a NEED to make 7

so does he have one hidden you think? and has 8 by mistake lol

[stuck epoch]

He wanted to split his soul in 7 parts (so 6 horcruxes+his own) which he did but due to harry having a part of his soul latched onto harry he “accidentally” split his soul in 8 parts (in “”because dunno if he knew harry had a part of his soul (probably not tho else he wouldn’t have made nagini into one))

7 is due to it being the most magical number in the WW and voldy thought with it he would achieve true immortality

[cedar rock]

Good point

he has part too

so 8 yeah

does having 7 make them stronger by the magic of the number then?

[stuck epoch]

No its just considered the most magical number in WW so he went with that

[cedar rock]

ah I see

thanks

[stuck epoch]

There is very little we know about horcruxes as only two people (we know of) every made them

[cedar rock]

One was Merlin right?

[stuck epoch]

Nope herpo the foul was the first and (most likely) inventor

Horcruxes are the darkest and most horrendous of dark arts so someone upright like merlin would even consider thinking about learning how to make them

[snow briar]

Someone know if we can put on our hood with our clothes 🤔

[modern moth]

hermoine is the flattest character in harry potterian history

[strong tiger]

Why would you say something so controversial yet so bold 😶

[long crown]

She has growth in the first book, and some romantic development but she def becomes a much less interesting character as the series goes on

[stuck epoch]

We see some of that we dont know if there are special clothing that is on/off or if you can just switch it on/off yourself

[wary monolith]

is merlin the most powerful wizzard of all time in the HP universe

[worthy trench]

Arguably given who is though there's a limited amount of info on him in the verse so its not a fair debate when it comes to him or ancient wizards/witches being compared to modern ones.

[modern moth]

nah bro im talking physically

word

[long crown]

Lmfao I don’t think they go into detail in the books

[worthy trench]

Modern ones have more knowledge and spells in their repretoire due to building from the past which ancient wizards wouldn't have counter spells for in a duel if you put them into a duel in modern times with a modern wizard/witch

The inverse can also be true though, ancient wizards may have access to long lost spells or knowledge that could aid them in a duel against modern wizards/witches

Like JK based AD on Merlin from TH White and Disney and traditional lore so I think we can assume he was an extremely powerful wizard in his day by both prior, contemporary and later standards despite the limited info.

[stuck epoch]

wouldnt 100% agree with that

[stuck epoch]

at least the most powerful we know of

[wary monolith]

there will be stuff about him in the game i hear looking forward

hes a Slytherin aswell

[worthy trench]

Well many spells were made after some ancient wizards/wtiches so they won't have those spells or counter-spells for use if you plop them into modern day and into a duel immediately.

And I did say the opposite is true aswell. We know some spells are lost to time since certain ancient magical objects have magical properties that have not been replicated or believed impossible by modern wizards/witches. The spell on the Resurrection Stone that summons the souls of the dead. The spell/s that allows the Cloak of Invisibilty's invisibility to not wear off. Whatever methods give the Elder Wand its unique properties

I can put Merlin vs AD but i can't fairly debate the outcome cos Merlin's info is limited in comparison to AD

[wary monolith]

wow yeah those are really like mythic items

the cloak reminds me of like Jason and the Golden Fleece from greek myth

[stuck epoch]

yes thats why i said that and put a thumps up on the other comment

[worthy trench]

I didn't check who put it up but cool. We agree that both have advantages they can use to aid in winning a duel. Hope we get a decent amount of Merlin lore in the game.

[stuck epoch]

A decent amount of lore in general would be nice tho we cant consider this game canon just yet

[ripe zodiac]

What kinds of books are in the restricted section
Do they have forbidden knowledge or are they just dangerous because of a weird gimmick like the person can't stop reading ever
Please ping me if you reply

[umbral mortar]

Secrets of the darkest art is a book that contains info about horcruxes, but it was removed by Dumbledore.
Moste potente potions is what they used to brew the polyjuice potion.

The books in there are likely rare/valuable or inappropriate for younger students

[prisma wedge]

Watching a video about things I missed when watching HP movies. Some were pretty interesting. Such as that Harry casts exactly 0 spells in the first movie, lol. Late bloomer I guess. Still not as bad as Neville Longbottom. 😄

The "restricted section" at Hogwarts library isn't much imo, after all the only security is a rope

[umbral mortar]

I suppose the librarian is there to protect it

Makes sense why Harry sneaked in at night

[frank jewel]

Harry vanished the glass in the zoo, not really him casting a spell I suppose, but he does at least do magic in the movie 😄

[prisma wedge]

Random lore which I am not entirely sure is true; but apparently Hogwarts school motto is "Draco Dormiens Nanguam Titillandus". Ie, "never tickle a sleeping dragon". 🤔

[rapid steppe]

Can you play the game on mac mini

[atomic glade]

That's indeed official, it can be seen in all official Hogwarts' crest on book covers and movies.

There are also interviews where JKR explains how she created that motto

[warm garden]

for dutch people is there a version of the books in NL that has the correct english naming. perkamentus, zweinstein, anderling 💀

[gentle dust]

shes a child in the early books, dont talk abt her appearences until book 7.

[empty yoke]

Nanquam* I guess

[high zenith]

If u don’t know who these fellas are don’t buy the game

[patent saffron]

who are these people

[high zenith]

THE MARAUDERS MOONY WORMTAIL PADFOOT AND PRONGS THERE BASICLY MINNIES CHILDREN AND SO IS MARLENE AND MARY OMG

[warm garden]

they evil?

[gaunt hedge]

Umm if you don't know these guys u shouldn't even be in the fandom😭

In class we were talking bout how the substitute looked like peter petigrew and saying he was going to avada kervada us💀 or summon he who must not be named

[prisma wedge]

Harrys father was one of the Marauders

and it was implied they bullied Snape

[modern moth]

harrys father is actually voldemort

[prisma wedge]

I solemnly swear I'm up to no good.

[ionic grove]

snape was a creepy incel stalker, that bullied children! ef snape!

[steady coral]

bruh

[warm edge]

No, there isn’t. At least not from my knowledge

You will get the crappy translations

[warm edge]

Wasnt that accidental magic? It happens with High emotions sometimes

[frank jewel]

Yeah it was, like I said, not really him casting a spell, but he does do magic, even if accidental :D

[warm edge]

Aah yes, alright!💕

I also have theories about why Neville was bad at casting magic for a long while🤭

[gaunt hedge]

💀😭

[gaunt mulch]

This was like Tom when Dumbledore confronted him at the orphanage right?

[worthy trench]

Tom was doing intentional magic

nothing accidental about it

[ionic grove]

😮‍💨 🤣 sorry i just needed to vent... it pisses me off that 'Snape' is being protraid by many fans, as a 'tragic-antihero-savior'....Hell NO! the man was a creepy stalker that buillied son(and other children) of the women he was simping/thirsting for.... argh just effing pathatic!

[umbral mortar]

That's not exactly how i would describe snape. I don't think he was a creepy stalker, but yes, he did bully children

[torn pumice]

Disgusting to see that people are already gatekeeping this game.

[jagged horizon]

Maraurders 🙂

[white meadow]

Snape was both a victim and an antagonist if anyone is really to blame for what happened in the marauders era it was the teachers for not doing anything about the bullying and i don't mean just punishing the marauders. Measures should have been taken to keep them away from each other.

[tame crystal]

"one of the bravest men I ever knew"

[severe dew]

You know what baffles me

In the DH book, we can interpret that McGonagall evacuating the entirety of the slytherins most likely means they didnt have a choice to stay and defend hogwarts.
There's a lot of reasoning to make sense behind a majority of it, given 1. some would be fighting against their family and 2. Slytherins weren't really considered that dandy at the time. But I mean to have JK generalize the entirety of the house as basically cowards is absurd. It's upsetting she never even included any slytherins besides Slughorn staying to defend Hogwarts.

She supposedly said in an interview, Slughorn apparently gathered a large # of slytherins and brought them back to the battle as reinforcements but it just seems absurd she didn't even bother to include such an amazing scene in the book

[stuck epoch]

she didnt generalize them as cowards rather as untrustworth (thats why they got locked up (+the thing with the families)) and a hero story needs some enemy and that enemy has been slytherin in all of the books

[severe dew]

I dont think they were locked up in the book, She evacuated them along with the younger students

But still, there is no possible chance that 100% of the slytherins would be against defending their home

[stuck epoch]

im not to sure how it was in the book

regardless they were sent back because of the lack of trust from most of them

its just not something you can afford in a battel

[severe dew]

It doesn't make sense though. mcgonagall doesn't deal in absolutes and would've most likely asked which slytherins are willing to defend hogwarts at least.

[stuck epoch]

ofc there are some that would fight for hogwarts but alone the fact that some would betray them is to big of a factor for the overall moral of hogwarts

[severe dew]

It's not how her character is represented at all. I think it was just a big oopsie on rowlings part given she was too invested in other aspects of the battle

[stuck epoch]

mcgonagall doesnt but others do and she knows that

[severe dew]

It's just not fair to the others quite frankly. But it is what it is. I wish she would write a book on the BOH from a different perspective tbh. There is so much that could be covered

The BOH has the most plot holes imo

[stuck epoch]

so firstly you cant always trust the words from others and secondly even if its true and she thinks so as well she is not the only one fighting and the majority would not think like she does bringing down the moral and making even worse odds for hogwarts

[stuck epoch]

fairness has nothing to do with it tho

[severe dew]

Okay your point doesn't line up with the lore
JK stated that Slughorn brought back the Slytherins as reinforcements but didnt add it in the book.
It's not about "Taking their word" or "not thinking the same" lol you're looking at this the wrong way. My point is that JK just really goofed up by not including this important yet arbitrary aspect

[stuck epoch]

JK doesnt have that good of a track record when it comes to consistency so she probably didnt think about that at the time of writing the book and what im trying to explain to you rn is what her thoughts couldve been at the time of writing the book

[severe dew]

yeah

I just wish she would one day release a book that elaborates on all of these questions she gets pummeled with weekly

It just seems the Battle of Hogwarts has the most plot holes

[boreal shuttle]

Remember that McGonagall was still suffering from the "betrayal" of Snape when she made that decision, and I kinda understand her being extremely wary in that particular situation.

That being said, it was definitely a mistake on JKRs part to villainise all Slytherin students - and I do think she knows that, which is probably why she chose to make various comments during post-DH interviews.
But yeah, I'll never understand why she didn't include at least one good/likeable Slytherin student in OotP when the DA was the perfect opportunity to do so.

That's probably part of the reason why completely irrelevant canon characters like Daphne Greengrass, Tracey Davis and Blaise Zabini are so popular in fanfiction.

[rapid basin]

Does the wands on patronus app differ between the other wands like for example if you have a Phoenix core would it be stronger than a unicorn or something

[boreal shuttle]

wand woods & cores are only cosmetic

[fierce sapphire]

In the game at least, in lore it’s a different story

For example unicorn core is said to be the most difficult to turn evil/dark arts, but Quirrell managed to do it.

[boreal shuttle]

since they specifically mentioned the app, they're probably talking about the game.

[fierce sapphire]

Oh I didn’t catch that 👍

[boreal shuttle]

It would be neat though if we could eventually get a true sandbox experience in the Wizarding World where stuff like that actually matters. HL focusses on different aspects, which is totally fine ofc - I'm just generally very excited for the future of the franchise in gaming

kinda crazy that it took this long for it to take off though, so much potential

[rapid basin]

Yeah in lore they all varry but purely in game is cosmetic gotcha ya

[ruby thistle]

She is also strict and to the point. There was a battle going on, and the vast majority of slytherins had been supporting the death eaters as hall guards and other minor roles. Being a hall guard is obviously not the biggest crime in the scheme of the events, but if they routinely snitched on people for the death eaters to arrest it places their overall loyalty in question..

[past fable]

Indeed, all Slytherin students were escorted together with the minors to the room of requirement in order to leave Hogwarts through the tunnel

[rapid basin]

If i dont link my pottermore acc how will the wand selection go would there be a wand selection in game

[snow harness]

I don't believe that some wizards are stronger than others. I think some people have more knowledge or experience or even maybe more adept at learning how to do things. I don't believe they are stronger tho like their spell would just be stronger then sombody else's if they were the exact same in every other way.

[stuck epoch]

We dont know

[umbral mortar]

From what i understand you'll be able to choose wand characteristics anyway, regardless if you link or not

Linking just gives you the fanatic robe

[trail ocean]

linking just changes the default characteristics when you first get the wand. you can change stuff after.

[ruby thistle]

Voldemort could call on animals and direct his magic before he even had any education or knowledge of magic.

Sure, practice can make any wizard master a specific spell, but I think there is a reason most people don't reach voldy/dumble lvl

[boreal shuttle]

Agreed. I don't think that there's much truth to the fanon idea of "magical cores", but innate talent and power are definitely a thing - otherwise Harry wouldn't have been able to cast a corporeal Patronus powerful enough to rout 100 Dementors at the age of 13.

[keen jetty]

Based

[severe dew]

Where was MACUSA when the Ministry collapsed? Where were they during the Battle of Hogwarts?

[boreal shuttle]

Why would MACUSA involve themselves in the civil war of another country?

The Wizarding World isn't as interconnected as our own, despite the ICW being somewhat based on the UN.

Not even Britain's direct neighbours really bothered with assisting them. Unlike Grindelwald, Voldemort - or rather his agenda - wasn't seen as a global threat.

[ruby thistle]

It directly affects them considering it is a threat to the masquerade they got going on.

[boreal shuttle]

It was a calculated risk since Voldemort never made any aspirations about wanting to take over the muggle world. The Statute of Secrecy was never in any real danger during either of Voldemort's campaigns.

[ruby thistle]

I suppose I can understand the reasoning, although I fail to see how they would view it as "no real danger".

I mean the deatheaters would fly around blowing up muggle bridges in Broad daylight.

[umbral mortar]

I thought that was only in the movies

[ruby thistle]

Been many years since I read the books, so may be.

[umbral mortar]

Death eaters can only fly with brooms. Only Voldemort and snape can fly without a broom

[ruby thistle]

But im fairly sure that the werewolf dude who served vildy did so because he hoped to get access to more children he could bite, including muggles

[ruby thistle]

Thats a wierd as limitation

[umbral mortar]

The movies gave them the op ability to fly by itself

In the books they are just like other wizards

[boreal shuttle]

The bridge definitely collapsed in the book as well, it just wasn't as grandiose and obvious as it was in the movie - that was generally the case for all DE raids and attacks.

[umbral mortar]

Yea there were mentions of stuff happening in muggle world when Fudge talked with the muggle prime minister

[boreal shuttle]

On a side note, I really dislike the smoke flying of both Death Eater's and the Order in the films, it completely downplays Voldemort's achievement of unsupported flight.

[umbral mortar]

Agreed

[boreal shuttle]

But to touch up on that once again: I think they would have eventually gotten involved if Voldemort had achieved complete victory, if only for the fact that he wouldn't have been content with just ruling Britain in the long run.

[ruby thistle]

Personally I would remove teleportation and timetravel from the Canon.

I think it makes flight meaningless, trivializes dangerous situations (just tp away whenever, no cost and no cooldown). And timetravel is just always bad imo.

Like some of the dangerous scenarios in the books would be so trivial if they had learned to teleport. And it annoys me that its essentially likenjust getting a driving license

Whereas flying is mythical and no one has achieved it before voldy without a broom.

Jk rowling is amazing at writing dramatic stories, but she isn't very good at balancing things. :p

[boreal shuttle]

Time-Turners were a mistake and JKR even agrees with that, which is why she got rid of them in OotP. Timetravel generally only works well in small, self-contained stories or when it's the entire focus of a story, in which case it needs to have a lot of rules and limitations. It's really hard to do right.

Apparition is fine imo since it does have its limits and weaknesses (wards, distance, splinching). The only part that is a bit too op is how fast one can do it - it should require some kind of preparation so that one can't do it instantly. That being said, mid-combat Apparition is allegedly extremely difficult and we don't see anyone but Dumbledore and Voldemort actually pull it off in the books.

But yeah, it's a little too easy to apparate in stressful situations.

[ruby thistle]

I mean they say it very difficult, but fred and George use it for pranks and fun. They literally teleport 1 floor down instead of taking the stairs.

Not a stressful situation there, sure. But I can imagine if you do it a couple 100 times, just practice a lot for some week, it'd be like breathing.

But its blockable, so its not the worst, I agree

[worthy trench]

Apparition is inconsistant across books and movies. Goes from limited in distance to intercontinental spanning in case of most op wizards. And FB has apparition mid combat now being canonically possible.

[boreal shuttle]

It depends on how experienced and powerful you are, I wouldn't call that inconsistent. And FB goes for show and simplicity over accuracy, the books still overrule the movies when it comes to differences in how magic is portrayed - e.g. Stupefy being a tiny blue ball when it's canonically a red beam.

[strange veldt]

hey y'all 🙂

[shrewd goblet]

hi !

[strange veldt]

so, i got a question. it's said that merlin in the HP universe was a slytherin, but, for some reason that doesn't click with me very well. he seems like he would be a good ravenclaw

[lime badge]

I think its probaboy a similar situation with hermione not being a ravenclaw

[strange veldt]

yeah, that too

honestly i wish that the trio were put in different houses, i feel like it would kind of quash house hate, at least a little

like, even though they were in different houses, they can still work together and be friends

[worthy trench]

He lived in an era when conflict was all over the place in Britain and was trying to unite wizards and muggles (ambitious) and advised kings through his life in stories and basically had them in his back pocket due to the amount of favors he was owed by them in legends and would need much cunning to manuvure the kings and queens and other major political figures of Britain at the time to were he wanted/needed them to be for his goals to come to pass.

Merlin of legend fits quite well into Slytherin

cunning. ambitious, trickster

schemer

manipulator

resourceful

[strange veldt]

actually, that makes a lot of sense lol

[minor dew]

I thought Quirrel could too, however this may be because he had V on the back of his head??

[strange veldt]

so, stop me if this has already been answered, but, with ron's family being so poor, even though arthur works for the ministry of magic, why can't they just conjure up some money so they're not poor anymore? honestly i feel bad for them 😦

[timber atlas]

The weasleys were too proud to accept anything from anyone

[rough wolf]

Wasn’t it part of like the rules that you couldn’t conjure up money and food

[strange veldt]

you can't conjure food?

[glossy skiff]

You can’t conjure out of thin air. You can only summon, enlarge, transfigure or multiply the amount you already have, Gawps Rule 1 of Elemental Transfiguration.

[timber atlas]

Thanks, professor 🫡

[rough wolf]

yeah dont think so. Hermione's quote

“It's impossible to make good food out of nothing! You can Summon it if you know where it is, you can transform it, you can increase the quantity if you've already got some.”

[strange veldt]

cause didn't professor mcgonagall summon a plate of sandwiches in CoS?

[rough wolf]

maybe theres a difference in the movies.. Did she summon them in the book version?

[glossy skiff]

Probably from kitchens

[worthy trench]

I wonder if paper money can be conjured from thin air

like money is vague as hell

i assume JK meant certain metals can't be conjured from thin air

or multiplied permanently

cos then the economy would be fcked up

i guess magic knew beforehand that economies were important for sapient civilizations to flourish

haha

[glossy skiff]

Probable why wizards and witches use metal coins as currency

[worthy trench]

It just brings the question did magic know commerce would be important to any life in the future

since it had rules that prevent economic abuse by magic

[glossy skiff]

Don’t think it would be a magic cause more like ministry made sure it can’t be taken advantage of. So probable goblin magic or something to detect fakes

[worthy trench]

no it seems you can;t acutally conjure certain metals out of nothing

if they could everyone would do it

HP even asks why merope doesn't

[glossy skiff]

I’m taking fake muffle money

Talking*

[worthy trench]

wizards wouldnt conjure muggle money after a point in time at least

it doesn't seem to matter what money ur tryna conjure

if its metal based then it seems its not possible

or if its certain metals

like gold

or else the Stone would be not needed

it just that money is vague by definition

we have to assume JK meant in the sense of metal based currency

cos paper is used too

and in antiquity, and before that clothes and whatever else was used for trade aswell

before the invention of coin or paper based currency

she probably didn't think about that

[minor dew]

But you can’t increase the quantity of money you already have?

[rough wolf]

yeah i dont know

at this point everything is just canon

[hushed roost]

Let’s a go reven claw

[rose anvil]

maybe this is a stupid question but anyone know why we’re starting in 5th year/ where we went to school before?

[sour yew]

No idea yet

[rigid cedar]

they want to make it the best experience for us and start so we can be above all other witches and wizards apparently because obviously it’s not likely for a first year to become the worlds greatest 🙂

[rose anvil]

makes sense heh, curious as to what the lore reason will b though!!!

[viral fox]

With Hogwarts Legacy, we had the incredible opportunity to tell any story we wanted within the wizarding world. One fantasy stood out. Many fans of Harry Potter imagined what it would be like to receive their own Hogwarts letter, be sorted, and attend Hogwarts. More than anything else, we wanted to allow fans, after all these years, to finally tell their story, their way, at the most beloved school of witchcraft and wizardry. Only an open-world action RPG could capture the breadth of our fantasies.

Your story deserves to be as thrilling as other wizarding heroes. We start you as a late-fifth year so you needn’t hold back on the kinds of adventures (and themes) you might want to explore. We place you in the 1800s to ensure your legend is never overshadowed by any other hero. And we invent a new dark mystery so your conflict never feels like a retread of something you’ve seen before. With your continued support, we hope to explore even more in the future!

[rose anvil]

ah thankuu!!!!🫶🏼

[polar dirge]

Lmao, love that this is in the lore channel too

[vivid sapphire]

Wait you cant use a doubling charm? Beletrix used Flagrante and Gemino curse to duplicate gold in her vault to protect voldemorts horcrux

[vivid sapphire]

^ sorry

[boreal shuttle]

You can use it, the replica just doesn't have any real value and will reduce in quality over time. And in case of trying to sell something truly valuable, a simple Specialis Revelio would bring clarity.

[rancid cobalt]

So we are 5 year in as a student but just now enrolling and Finding a house ?

[stuck epoch]

we start as a 5th year so we are not even one year in as a student

[ruby thistle]

I assume the ancient magic aspect of our character has done some ness up with the usual magic detection for new students.

We were maybe unknown up til now. Hard to say why we were not enrolled

[rancid cobalt]

Ya I’m lost on that bit. Why are we starting as a 5th year and not w beginners? Is it cause people who are 5 years in are closer in age to the player?

[boreal shuttle]

The professors believe that we're capable/talented enough to catch up to other 5th years, most likely due to the ancient magic angle and possibly even the backstory of the main character - and from what we've seen the MC pull off in gameplay, "catching up" doesn't seem to be all that difficult for them.

[ruby thistle]

It is so the game can explore more mature concepts that an 12 year old would not be likely to explore.

Not very immersive to have an 12 year old avada kedavra their way through scotland

[rancid cobalt]

That makes the most sense

[ruby thistle]

Thats the ingame explanation. Out of game it is because having 12 year olds killing poachers be too dark and immersion breaking.

15 is still young, but a better middle ground. Leaves room for sequels too.

I keep trying to write 11, and it autocorrects to 12. -_-

[rancid cobalt]

Ya that’s understandable

[boreal shuttle]

That and you already have to somewhat suspend your disbelief that a 5th year could pull off the kind of magic we're about to, ancient magic or not, a first year doing so would be completely riddikulus (I'm not sorry).

[prisma wedge]

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RedRightHand

Nick Cave even made a song with the same name 😄

[trail grail]

He has another song called Dig, Lazarus, Dig...unrelated I just like the song

[severe dew]

Hey gangsters

What spell did Voldemort use in the movie to shatter the Protego Maxima protecting Hogwarts?

[minor dew]

Hi all! I'm making my way through the books in prep for Legacy. In PoA, Snape summons Lupin to his office using fire in the fireplace... is this some sort of internal floo network system within Hogwarts? Is it ever mentioned elsewhere in the books, pottermore etc?

[open kestrel]

Isn't this suppose to be lore not quizzes-.-

[lyric plinth]

https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/Shield_penetration_spell here it says that the incantation were unknown
its also not used any other places than in that specific scene

[prime basin]

Would seem to be externally accessible as well, same thing happens with harry talking to sirius in the common room fireplace

[boreal shuttle]

There are numerous floo connections in Hogwarts and even though not all of them are directly confirmed, the evidence at least suggests that all of the common rooms and the offices of each professor do have one. It's important to note though that some of them are not open/active all the time, sometimes permission of the "owner" is required, in other cases the connections are one-way and there's a difference in access and conditions between full body transport and the head-only-communication method used by Sirius and Amos Diggory.

[tame crystal]

<@&755190193367023772> Hey guys, sorry for the spam, is there a channel to discuss the live game? There are like 20 streams on twitch atm

[high creek]

No because they shouldn't be streaming it yet and are probably all going to get their accounts banned. The official streaming embargo doesn't lift until tomorrow.

[tame crystal]

@high creek ah ok, gotcha, will there be a channel tomorrow then? cause right now I'm not sure if there is one

[high creek]

It'll be #‼-spoilers-general-‼ mostly although we may add some more channels to that section if we feel more are needed.

[tame crystal]

awesome! combat one probably? cause it looks fantastic!!! 😅

[minor dew]

Thank you for this! Much appreciated!!

[boreal shuttle]

Conjuration is quite literally the art of creating something from nothing - or rather a place of non-being which is where vanished things also go to - so you can definitely conjure most things out of thin air, just not real food and whatever the 4 other principal exceptions are; a few guesses would be money/gold that is actually worth something, wands and potion/magical ingredients and substances.

What truly makes it worthless, to answer the question posed by @strange veldt, is that Conjuration only lasts for a few hours and both conjured and transfigured or multiplied gold doesn't have any real value as they're just lesser imitations of the original.

Like Leprechaun gold, which seems like it can be conjured as it vanishes entirely after a couple of hours.

Although the last example is kinda ambiguous as we don't know how leprechaun magic even works.

[fleet spoke]

heello

asas

[polar spruce]

hello

[cold basalt]

servaus

[minor flame]

Anyone have a good website to read up on some lore?

[odd garden]

I GOT U

https://collider.com/harry-potter-history-explained/ - full breakdown of all the history including years and dates

https://www.hp-lexicon.org/timeline/master-timeline/the-history-of-the-wizarding-world/ - sort of the same

[raven lotus]

Ignore the lexicon - they've got things wrong.

[boreal shuttle]

Every comorehensive directory has at least a handful of errors. Though I'd like to know what you're referring to specifically

[raven lotus]

The dates concerning Charlie Weasley

[boreal shuttle]

Which dates?

[raven lotus]

His age and graduation. They say he's born in 1973, when J.K. has confirmed 1972 and they say he left in 6th year, when he did not. He stayed to do his N.E.W.Ts since he needs them for dragon training.

[white marsh]

Not sure if this has been answered but is there any lore or canon about the exact process of spell casting?
Like do wizards and witches study spells like a formula or in the form of some kind of geometric construct. Kinda like a blueprint of the spell they wish to cast and then gather the magical energy needed for it and release it with the incantation and a wave of their wand?

[grand ermine]

Could someone explain to me why Voldemort looks so strange.... Doing a Harry Potter marathon to see the movies I never saw and get ready for Hogwarts Legacy.... I'm on Deathly Hollows Part 1 and still have to watch the fantastic beast movies.... If this is a question that will be answered in either of the last 2 movies you could just let me know that as well if that's easier....

[odd garden]

bad guys = no nose

[gaunt vapor]

because of splitting his soul so many times

[odd garden]

7 horcruxes tore his humanity away so just becomes less human each time

[trail gulch]

That’s amazing

[gaunt vapor]

technically 6

[boreal shuttle]

Charlie leaving Hogwarts in his 6th year is the only way for all of JKRs comments about the age of the eldest Weasley brothers to make sense - it doesn't work with what ifs or maybes and simply gathers all sources for the most likely scenario that doesn't include an error on JKRs part. You can disagree with that approach, but calling it wrong is simply false.

We also have zero idea under which circumstances Charlie was employed at the Romanian Longhorn Dragon Reservation, nor do we know of the necessary qualifications of a dragonologist.

[odd garden]

lmao suppose you're right

[raven lotus]

Per canon and word of God, J.K. Rowling has said she intended to make Bill and Charlie older than she did, but her maths let her down.
With the current standings, it stands that he's born 72, not 73 as the Lexicon claims and did his 7th year too

[trim rune]

what’s the storyline?

[ruby thistle]

His soul is mashed into 8 pieces total. He looks inhuman because he is. He is 1 / 8th of the humanity anyone else has.

And he was a sociopath before he did the soul splitting

[odd garden]

Experience Hogwarts in the 1800s. Your character is a student who holds the key to an ancient secret that threatens to tear the wizarding world apart. Make allies, battle Dark wizards and decide the fate of the wizarding world.

[raven lotus]

^ 1890 to be precise.

[trim rune]

damn

seems like i’m bouta destroy the wizard world

[ruby thistle]

So far we know of three factions, loosely allied against the player.

Poachers, out for profit, dark wizards, doing whatever, and goblins, doing a rebellion.

[raven lotus]

So basically Poachers are doing what they do, Dark Wizards are doing what they do and Goblins are doing what they do.

[ruby thistle]

Yeah, basically. They don't seem closely allied at all.

[trim rune]

i wonder if it’s canon or not

[odd garden]

i think it is no?

[grand ermine]

@ruby thistle Oh damn.... So it's because of his horcruxes????

[ruby thistle]

? Who's?

[gaunt vapor]

yes

[odd garden]

wait no its not cannon

[trim rune]

if me committing genocide in hogwarts is canon then…

[limpid osprey]

it’s supposed to be very canon compliant they’ve consulted the author who shall not be named at least

[gaunt vapor]

your own actions will not be canon

[trim rune]

i know lol, it was a joke

[raven lotus]

The story will be canon, but the gender of our character will be "unknown" and what side missions etc they did will also be "unknown."

[limpid osprey]

I’m interested in finding out how much our choices actually end up influencing the course of the story

[raven lotus]

True that.

[limpid osprey]

but i’ve gotta say this “ancient magic long forgotten” lowkey worries me

[raven lotus]

I, personally, am looking forward to seeing what canon info it gives us. How long has Black been headmaster?

[odd garden]

it makes me nervous bro

[limpid osprey]

like there were mentions of ancient magic in the books but i would’ve liked being a student like any other not the “pre-chosen one” xd

[raven lotus]

See, I have a theory on it myself...

[limpid osprey]

spill!!! Love me some theories

[boreal shuttle]

That's mainly due to her latest admission on the topic of being bad at maths, stating that Charlie is three years older than Percy, which is kind of a stretch if you argue that both of them were born in the latter halves of 72 and 76 respectively. As I said, it's fine to disagree with their reasoning - and I do as well btw - but I still wouldn't call it wrong.

They've even made an entire article on the matter iirc, where the person writing it makes a case for 72. So you really have both possibilites on the site, which is fair imo.

It should be included in Charlie's bio though.

[odd garden]

i would really enjoy not being the protaganist and being like a right hand man/woman to them along for the ride lol

[raven lotus]

J.K. Rowling confirms Charlie is "seven years" older than Ron. He's born in December, so he's 7 years and a few months older than Ron.
1973 makes him six years older than Ron. So the 1973 is absolutely and definitely wrong on the Lexicon.

[limpid osprey]

yup, me too

[odd garden]

cant argue with them to be fair hahaha

[raven lotus]

That's a quote!

[odd garden]

and accurate!

[raven lotus]

I mean... yes, but still a quote. 😄

[boreal shuttle]

Ron was born in 1980, so that's strictly speaking correct as far as their years of birth are concerned. And it's certainly less of a stretch than arguing that Charlie and Percy are three years apart if they were born in 72 and 76.

[raven lotus]

Years of birth, yes. Years of age, no.

[fossil spear]

Is the quidditch ban from black in Hogwarts legacy cannon in the actual Hogwarts lore?

[boreal shuttle]

The opposite scenario applies to Charlie and Percy. Which is why you can make a case for both.

[raven lotus]

We've never explored the 1890s before in canon, so until something contradicts it, yes.

[fossil spear]

Ahhh ok thank you

[raven lotus]

Not true. Percy is about 3 years and 8 months younger than Charlie. Closer to 4 years, but not 4 years.
In years of age, it's 3. In years of number, it's 4.

[boreal shuttle]

Again that's a matter of interpretation that you're treating as an absolute fact. Let me repeat: I agree with you, but it's still sensible to argue that no one would say "they're three years apart" about characters who were born in the latter half of 72 and 76 respectively, especially considering how incredibly bad JKR is at maths.

But nevertheless, if they really want to make that point, they still should have included both years and both scenarios in Charlie's bio.

[raven lotus]

My theory is this: we don't exist. The Ancient Magic occasionally takes human form, hence why we seem to have popped out of nowhere.

[raven lotus]

Yes. Yes, they should. But they don't, so I don't use the Lexicon.

[limpid osprey]

ooof i like that, v meta

[raven lotus]

Or The Ancient Magic is sentient and goes "OK, this person can wield me until they die, then I will sleep for [insert number of years here] before possessing someone else."

[boreal shuttle]

Fair, I personally believe that they are an extremely good source of information 99% of the time. As with every other directory it's important to double or triple check stuff though.

[raven lotus]

It's less the Lexicon and more the editors there going "We are right. You are wrong. Shush now." sort of thing.

[boreal shuttle]

That is something I really can't disagree with.

[raven lotus]

Wooo!

[boreal shuttle]

They can be pretty... full of themselves, to put it lightly and according to the rules of this server :^)

[raven lotus]

Indeed.

[proven atlas]

incredibly bad JKR is at maths
Sept 1st is always on a Sunday 🤓

[raven lotus]

Is it? I thought it was always a Monday?

Regardless, Hogwarts Legacy does the same. Sept 1 is a Sunday on the newspaper in the trailer.

Yet, in 1890, it was actually a Monday.

[empty hollow]

Interesting @raven lotus

[misty mango]

must've been a muggle paper

[raven lotus]

No. It mentions Goblin rebellion, so tis wizard.

[misty mango]

maybe it was Sunday for the wizarding world but Monday for the muggles.

[raven lotus]

lol, maybe

[proven atlas]

Well, they have a full week of classes which is why I think it's a Sunday.

[raven lotus]

Sometimes it's said "the first day of classes" rather than "the next day" implying that some time passes between arrival and class.

[stark harbor]

I finally did now I just have to wait for the game to come out on my PlayStation 5 cause I pre ordered it

[native raft]

I just want to appreciate the fact that Voldemort turned a ring holding the resurrection stone into a horcrux.

[vernal fox]

My wizarding world app is not working

[royal bear]

Same bro can’t wait on my Xbox series x

[celest pond]

What happens if he made the stone a horcrux and not the ring

And like tried to use the stone then

[open kestrel]

YO this is lore area not general chat :t

[plain girder]

he found the stone when it was a part of the ring on i believe it was morfin so since it was one object u can’t only make part of it the horcrux

[modern moth]

Amongus

[plain girder]

..

[grand kite]

Has one considered that some dinosaur species might have been magical? Or maybe Dragons and the like are magical dinosaurs that survived the extinction

[prime basin]

more of a #🧠theories discussion

[grand kite]

Fair

[stray hill]

Just wondering why there are no present day descendants of the 4 founders.. I mean no G S H R surnames?

[delicate delta]

There was the slytherin one so maybe there are others ...

[mystic quiver]

Slytherin has Gaunts now they have Delphini Diggory Hufflepuff has Smiths Ravenclaw is all dead i believe as well as Griffindor

[delicate delta]

where is Delphini mentioned?

[small sigil]

In cursed child

[delicate delta]

oh wow I completely forgot!

[olive swan]

Best to just forget the whole existence of Cursed Child.

[terse shard]

https://youtu.be/eG-kVHK5AII

Check this guys

[limpid osprey]

the cursed child is a joke that barely follows lore, delphi being voldemort and bellatrix's kid just makes me see things i don't want to xdddd

[worthy trench]

Nothing probably

[worthy trench]

Delphini for direct descendants of Salazar, the maybe many indirect descendants from the American Sayre family who are related to the Gaunts.

So odds are there are many indirect descendants in modern day from Salazar.

Possibly from Hufflepuff aswell.

Godric is utterly unknown.

Ravenclaw probably not unless she had a sibling/s or cousins.

[abstract fossil]

how is levicorpus in the game when snape makes it like later on in the future?

[stuck epoch]

its not

[abstract fossil]

oh, i looked on a spell list online and it said it was

[stuck epoch]

not official= not trustworthy

[abstract fossil]

fair

it would be a cool spell to add in just not accurate to lore

an animagus expansion would be so cool

[half cedar]

What if you get trapped like Nagini?

[torpid jungle]

oH!

[stuck epoch]

thats a blood curse not animagus (tho it could happen that you fail and be trapped as an animal)

[half cedar]

Sirius was an Animagus

[torpid jungle]

So was James, and Peter

[stuck epoch]

nope

snape was a normal

[torpid jungle]

Sirius, not Severus

[stuck epoch]

ah

yea

misread

[half cedar]

He was a Dog

Was Remus just a werewolf or was he one too?

[stuck epoch]

yea those three and mcgonnagall were animagus at hogwarts

remus was just a werewolf

[half cedar]

Cat

[stuck epoch]

yes

james=elk, sirius=doggo,peter=rat,mcgonnagall=cat

not elk but small elk

[torpid jungle]

Remus was a werewolf, the other three marauders became Animagus secretly by 5th year to help him on full moons

Stag

[stuck epoch]

dunno what its called in english

deer

kek

[torpid jungle]

Stag

[half cedar]

Wait. In the Deathly Hallows when Harry and Hermonie went to Godrics Hallow to find a Horcrux

The lady who ended up being Nagini

Is that her years later

[stuck epoch]

no

it was just her disguised as the woman

[half cedar]

OHHHH

[stuck epoch]

and the woman being killed prior by nagini

[half cedar]

Ohhhhhh

[stuck epoch]

it was a setup from voldy

[half cedar]

Nagini is a Traitor

I thought she was on Dumbledores side during fantastic beasts

Then she was trapped as a snake and she found Tom Riddle

[stuck epoch]

dunno about that but after decades of isolation with no one to interact with its understandable that she will stay with the person who can

[half cedar]

Thats a big ass Snake

💀

Look like the baby of the Basilisk

[stuck epoch]

yea

[bright cipher]

So are the goblins in WoW.

It's unfortunate, but it isn't exclusive to WW.

[trail grail]

Are they caricatures of people or caricatures of a stereotype?

Seems the latter to me shrug

[modern moth]

Goblins in fantasy have often been Jewish-coded. Like Jasmine said, it's not an issue exclusive to the Wizarding World.

[midnight nebula]

source?

[toxic meadow]

I hope they add patronus charm, and it be amazing if they added the ability to become an animagus

[graceful lintel]

true

[somber hazel]

not all goblins i suppose

Orcs in LOTR for instance are not

[true jacinth]

Mostly the latter. The bigger nose = evil, the greed that they seem to have with gold and stuff they’ve made among other things.

[rare knot]

Pls stop. The comparison itself is anti-semitic. Jewish people have been compared to everything under the sun throughout history, but people seem to fixate on this.

The fact people see small, long nosed, evil, greedy, bankers and think "oh, they must be Jews" says more about their own prejudice and preconceived notions of Judaism.

[modern moth]

I don't see that and think Jews, and I certainly do not appreciate the accusation of being anti-semitic myself. People "fixate" on this specific stereotype because it's the one that has been perpetuated by modern media.

[rare knot]

Calling Gobins in fantasy "Jewish-coded" is problematic at best.

They are based on stereotypes that simply do not exist and continuously emphasising them perpetuates the problem.

[modern moth]

I am very much so aware the stereotype is fictional and never intended to suggest otherwise.

[rare knot]

I'm just pointing out the comparison itself is offensive and best left in the dustbin where it belongs. Peoples obsession with the Goblin/Jewish comparison just serves to keep giving it legitimacy where none exists.

[modern moth]

I understand. I've noted this conversation and will think twice before saying anything in the future!

And this is completely unrelated, but I love your cat-ified ALMSIVI profile picture!

[rare knot]

I was probably harsher than I should have been in communicating it, I'm sorry - but the point still stands. Thanks for taking it on board - God knows I'm constantly learning about these things too.

[floral tangle]

= Not Dookie
= Dookie
= Dookie
= Dookie

[rare knot]

Three Cats, one true faith 😅

Haha I'm glad you appreciate it - I thought it may have been a bit obstuse and wasn't expecting someone here to recognise it

[modern moth]

I'm a really big fan of the Elder Scrolls. 😊

[rare knot]

You can definitely count me among the TES nerds. Was playing Morrowind again before HL released and absolutely love it.

But have to sleep now - good chat!

[still estuary]

hogwarts legasus

[dense cargo]

So I just 100%'d the game, now what?

[hazy skiff]

Enjoy views

[dense cargo]

Do the offspring grow overtime, or are they just there to be sold?

[prime raptor]

I am pretty sure it's been confirmed that offspring don't grow

[bleak mortar]

💀

[cyan coral]

What makes the "unforgivable" spells "unforgivable"? I get that the ministry will not like you, and send you to Azkaban upon usage.. but why a crucio curse is worse compared to a bombardio? They both can kill ppl, and frankly bombardio is more effective "in theory". Or Imperio restricts your free will.. but levioso is doing the same just in a more limited way. I would even argue that dying to confringo probably hurts a lot more than to avaka. So what makes these spells "evil" or outlawed when you can do worse with the "legal" ones? I did not watch most of the movies or read the books.. just played the game, so maybe this is explained somewhere. Also transing a sheep to a basketball also seems.. fairly evil.

[somber hazel]

simply that they violate nature / human rights. An explosive spell that can be used on people is different to a torture spell specifically made to use on people

[candid beacon]

Dark Magic

They solely exist to be used on other humans, where the other spells have other uses outside inflicting harm.

And they're called unforgivable because using them on another human being will earn you a life sentence in Azkaban.

[somber hazel]

^ this. They are spells explicitly designed to cause harm to people and violate nature. Other spells that can harm people do so out of the nature of the spell and because of the user, not because of their design

[lilac holly]

how is the polyjuice trivia question that girl gives false? doesnt hermione turn into a cat?

[frank jewel]

Not really, she gets stuck somewhere in the middle and has to be magiced back to normal

[lilac holly]

yeah but the question was can the polyjuice change your species and if turning into a cat isnt changing species idk what is

[frank jewel]

But she didn't turn into a cat

[lilac holly]

she turned into a cat human which is essentially a new species

[frank jewel]

She just got cat features, but still very much human

[candid beacon]

not in lore.

changing species is only achieved by animagus' or lycanthropes.

[somber hazel]

shes still human, she doesnt literally turn into a cat

[candid beacon]

Man, the films do Harry Potter dirty. In most films he looks so incompetent, where as in the books Harry is one of the most gifted students at hogwarts capable of using magic far beyond his age.

[lilac holly]

i just watched the first movie again and he pretty much never uses magic

[candid beacon]

in most films he hardly uses magic.

the whole plot line of DA in order of the phoenix happens because of the triwizard tournament. He teaches them all spells he had to learn to compete.

Viktor Krum legit says Harry knows spells even he doesn't. And hes a final year.

[frank jewel]

Viktor also says he flies really well, so basically Harry is a pro level athlete

[candid beacon]

In the movies they make it look like he survives mostly due to luck.

I know it was probably intentional because Harry does reflect a typical gary stu type in the books. But they nerfed him so hard.

[lilac holly]

they definitely show his cleverness but perhaps they wanted to lean into archetypes more which is why hermione is the one always casting

[candid beacon]

its just an odd choice for the main character of a wizard series to rarely use magic.

[marsh pulsar]

Dont get me started on Harry and Cho Chang in the movies vs books lol

[candid beacon]

bruh

[marsh pulsar]

To effectively use unforgivable spells one has to do it with the intent to cause harm or change on that individual. The efficiency or effectiveness of said spells are based on how much that individual wants to impact the victim. Unforgivable curses can be ineffective if the caster isn’t intentionally putting effort or feelings behind that spell. It requires more than just words and an incantation as it violates and demands just as much as your willing to put into that spell.

If I said crucio without actually being focused or feeling as intentional in inflicting pain the severity of the spell on the victim would be a lot less than say if Bellatrix said the same spell given her ability to delight in causing pain

[candid beacon]

Theres a reason Frank and Alice Longbottom are in St. Mungos.

They weirdly ignore that Barty Crouch Jr took part in that whole thing.

in the films anyway.

[marsh pulsar]

He got pardoned by his dad

Who was minister or second to minister at that time.

[candid beacon]

i meant from nevilles perspective

considering him and "moody" got to know each other. coming face to face with one of the people who tortured your parents and changed your life for the worse has got to have a major affect on you.

they just kind of gloss over that important fact

people always mention bellatrix with neville but id argue it'd be even more personal with Barty.

[modern moth]

Hear me out. The unforgivables aren’t as bad as people think

[rain oyster]

Eh, i think they're aptly named.

[marsh pulsar]

I mean people do use imperio with a trusted loved one similar to how people take narcotics today

[marsh pulsar]

Fair enough, i dont think Neville ever knew Moody was Barty Crouch Jr until it was too late for him to even process that

[modern moth]

They are treated so horribly. Using examples from the game, they can be used for good. As we saw with Isidora. Also when Sebastian used imperio to saved his sister and when we used it on ominis to save his friendship.

[rain oyster]

Sure, just like how WMDs can be used for good. They're volatile

[candid beacon]

I'd like to see you justify how Crucio can be used for good in a world where veritaserum exists.

[marsh pulsar]

So what about Crucio or killing curse, how are they not as bad as one would think?

[marsh pulsar]

Maybe someone is a Massochist lol. I think Bellatrix showed signs of that during HBO

[modern moth]

I explained the killing curse, self defense. Crucio is the one spell that is just bad. But a ton of spells COULD be used for bad. Aguamenti could be used to water board 🤷

[marsh pulsar]

Yes but the unforgivable curses to be carried out properly require more than just the words and wand movements

[modern moth]

If I was scared and someone was going to kill me, I would use avada Kedavra. Is that what you are trying to say? Idk what else you could mean that wouldn’t just affirm my point

[candid beacon]

The reason they are deemed unforgivable is because they are intended to be cast on living beings. They have no use beyond that. Where as other spells can cause harm but they also have multitudes of uses.

You find thats the case with most dark magic. They're intended to be cast on someone to inflict harm. Even the most basic curses like the slug one Ron tried to use on Malfoy is considered to be the Dark Arts.

Curses = Dark Magic is the standard rule in the books anyway.

[modern moth]

True

[lilac holly]

what spell is used for the basic attacks?

or is it just some kinda raw energy

[candid beacon]

typically its some kind of stinging jinx

[lilac holly]

ah, neato. thanks.

[patent raven]

no spoilers but is there a reason i can hear avada kedavra every time i enter a trial?

[lilac holly]

in the whispering?

[serene inlet]

There’s no inherently bad magic.

[thin trail]

back when hogwarts was found crucio imperio and other unforgivable curses werent banned or unforgivable it just takes a couple of really bad people using those curses in some of the worst ways possible to blanket ban them

[patent raven]

Yeah

[lilac holly]

glad i wasnt the only one who heard that

[patent raven]

I just haven’t even heard anything in the game about it it’s just there and it’s bothering me

It makes me wonder if the ancient magic is evil or something

[lilac holly]

i wonder if you can hear it if you never use the unforgivables

[serene inlet]

I might’ve miss it but, is it explained why our character in hogwarts legacy transfers as a 5th year?

[marble summit]

i don't think it is

[serene inlet]

We know the true answer is because it fits with the tone of the game. You wouldn’t be taught so much, and entrusted to do the trials as a first or second year. Nevertheless, it irks me a bit to not have a made up thing in the game (-at least not that I’ve seen)

[dusty rock]

Jk rowling at one point mentioned the idea of late bloomers who get magic much later in life. Apparently she was going to have it happen to a muggle character in the books suddenly but cut it at the last minute. The only other thing we know is it wasnt petunia. So its a simple case of you being a late bloomer- its rare, but it happens, and in your case it has something to do with your connection to ancient magic

[slate quail]

Crucio is bad but scéně with imperio and goblin who was forced to suicide was brutally evil. For thet point i have crush on one specific slytherin student

[dusty osprey]

Why haven't we seen Harry's ancestors or hermiones? Or any other family in Hogwarts legacy anyone know?

[dawn falcon]

We have, there are some familiar last names - I don't remember many off the top of my head but I can recall a student with the last name, Prewett, during the time of HP

[forest flame]

hey

[astral delta]

so heres something to think about sorry if its been mentioned before

Voldy made horacruxes to make sure he dont die right

the night he killed The Potter's and attempt to kill Harry Voldy made Harry a horacrux

and seeing how Harry is still alive does that mean Voldy is too ?

[pine terrace]

Have you watched the films?

[astral delta]

yeah

[pine terrace]

Then you should know Voldemort is dead

[astral delta]

but Harry still has part of his Soul dont he?

[pine terrace]

I don’t think he does, voldy got weaker and weaker as they destroyed his horcrux

I’m pretty sure Harry died that night he went into the forest to go and see Voldemort, but as he had one of the three deathly hallows (the resurrection stone) he became back to life

[astral delta]

sighs i still wish we had more time to spend with these characters
i kinda want another saga involving the Kids

[pine terrace]

Same but all great things come to an end unfortunately

[astral delta]

we shall never speak of that cursed book

[rare knot]

Has anyone found the Ancient Runes classroom? Or is that the only classroom they forgot about...

[jaunty sigil]

Luna Lovegood is Newt’s Granddaughter in law.

[short bolt]

I do wonder how Vernon and Petunia would have reacted if it were Dudley...

[short bolt]

He wasn't outright killed because ||he was the true owner of the elder wand. The wand wouldn't turn on its master||, so he was given the choice to die or to remain among the living.

[modern moth]

Harry potta

[patent raven]

PottaH

[azure steeple]

Pottah 🤷

[brisk sequoia]

my assumption was because they previously had no signs of magical ability until their age, with which their ||ability to discern ancient magic also came||

[fringe grove]

I've only recently gotten into HP. I've always preferred LOTR as HP just seemed like a semi copy, But thats somewhat changed. I havent been able to Read the books yet, Might do Audio book instead, but Hows it compare to LOTR? In terms of Lore/Story etc. I've only watched the movies

[queen dragon]

Also I thought it was because avada kedavra can only kill one target at a time (hogwarts legacy doesn’t care though) since there was two souls inside Harry and the wand belonged to Harry the wand killed Voldemorts horcrux and Harry’s body (he was brought back to life because of the resurrection stone)

[short bolt]

The resurrection stone wasn't able to fully bring someone back to life though...It could bring the dead back to the land of the living, but they would still be dead.

[marble dagger]

welp, here i am typing out a whole ass essay about the movies and missing the fact that you had already watched those 🥲

In regards to the books I cant compare them to Tolkien on personal experience as I have sadly not fully read the LotR/Silmarillion/The Hobbit (I have owned them for years I just never got around to it)

I grew up reading the HP books and I loved them but I imagine it is quite different if you start reading them later in life, which doesn't mean you won't enjoy them. There is quite a bit of lore and background stories, however don't expect anything to the level of Tolkien, as his works are on another level entirely. Even as someone who hasn't actually fully read them I can acknowledge that. I don't think anything comes close to Tolkien. His world building, characters, language etc. it just can't be compared. Don't go into reading them expecting Tolkien, remember the HP books were written in a way that appealed to both children and adults. I don't really see a 10 year old devouring The Lord of the Rings or Silmarillion.

[twin ibex]

No he does not, when Voldy used the killing curse on harry in the forbidden forest before hagrid carried him back, voldy seperated harry and the piece of himself. this is visualized at the train station with Dumbledore inside Harry's vision. Harry could have died if he wanted to as Dumbledore told him he could "catch a train out" but Harry chose to go back to his life minus the piece of voldy he left at the train station.

[modern moth]

If the room of req. transforms to what you need, what are its limits. For example, couldn’t the game MC just “need” to be taken to a trial pensieve, and the room would open a portal of some sorts that would take them there. Also could the room not summon extremely powerful items, like idk the deathly hallows, if that’s what you “need”.

[modern moth]

if im mistaken, in the movies hasn't the womping willow been around for "hundreds of years"? why is not included in the game then

[high creek]

This was brought up a while ago and it seems it was planted in the 1970's.

[modern moth]

hm okay wow i didn't know that, thanks!

[high creek]

Neither did I, I've learned a lot of Wizarding World lore from looking after this place.

[fossil shell]

It was planted when Remus lupin came to Hogwarts as a werewolf for him to transform safely in the shrieking shack (the whomping willow is a passage way to there) that also explains the history behind the shrieking shack. It’s not ghosts that haunted there but it was Remus lupin as a werewolf

[broken hull]

and since the game takes place before remus attended hogwarts there is no whomping willow nor is there a shrieking shack or a marauders map

[fossil shell]

Exactly

[barren harbor]

name your top 3 NPCs in hogwarts legacy

[broken hull]

sebastian is an easy number 1

[fossil shell]

Sebastion, prof garlick and like deek r something

[barren harbor]

how though lol, that avada kedavra was totally unnecessary

[fossil shell]

Spoilers

[modern moth]

Water boarding could logically exist in HP, aguamenti exists

[barren harbor]

1. Deek
2. Ominis
3. the potions seller in hogsmeade, i always visit his shop to sell stuff lol, it's very close to a flew flame

[sharp wagon]

1. Ominis
2. Professor Fig
3. Poppy

[modern moth]

Bro is contemplating

[broken hull]

sadly spoilers but i haven't gotten to that part yet but right now hes my number one. after that i guess poppy cuz i like her beast related quests and third either fig cuz of the generally rule breaking stuff and his part in the story or gerralt weasley cuz i love how he's basically fred/george. so my top 3 would be

1. sebastian
2. poppy
3. professor fig/gerralt weasley

i hope i said weasley's name correctly lol

[barren harbor]

Fig is best professor for sure

poppy seemed nice in the beast class but later she acts a bit weird charging at the dragon like she could get killed i don't get her

[tacit bison]

Donate to the Trevor project

[broken hull]

She kinda reminds me of newt tbh lol wouldn't be surprised to learn she was related to him somehow

[rare knot]

Tbf most modern fantasy borrows heavily from Tolkien, so to avoid books or films because they are too similar to LOTR means you would have to boycott basically most modern fantasy.

That being said (and I know this will be an unpopular opinion) - I don't think Tolkien was a particularly good writer. His world building and language skills were unparalleled, but his characters (Gollum aside) were boring and one-dimensional. Every character speaks like they are some 1920s English gentleman and tbh Peter Jackson did the characters a favour by injecting them with some discernible personality.

I prefer the HP books since JK Rowling writes much more complex and interesting characters and although her world building is not as strong, I find reading the books a more enjoyable experience than LOTR.

That being said, I much prefer the LOTR films to the HP, although I don't dislike the latter either.

[quasi badge]

I personally cannot stand Tolkien's writing. Reading it is like trying to wade through cement. I do love the movies though.

[delicate horizon]

1. Professor Fig
2. poppy
3. professor Garlick

[ornate mica]

Ominis
Professor Sharp
Poppy

Oof, you guys who don't like Tolkien pain my soul. You're totally entitled to your opinions haha, I'm just floored whenever I see someone say they don't enjoy his style of writing or storytelling since I love it so much.

I enjoy JKR's too, though for different reasons.

[loud acorn]

Sebastian, Fig, Deek

[broken hull]

why does everyone like ominis so much. almost every interaction i had with him he's annoying as hell or does it have to do with something later on in the story

[ornate mica]

Definitely play through the storyline with him and Sebastian to see what you think of him.

I don't want to say too much, but I really loved his character.

[broken hull]

whenever i get a sebastian quest it gets first priorities lol but i've done the 3rd trial but still most interactions with him where kinda annoying. i do say i understand why he acts like he does but still

might also be cuz i side with sebastian to much most of the time lol

[rare knot]

I actually like them both and think they complement one another nicely and work well as friends, despite the conflict.

[ornate mica]

Definitely might just be a personal preference then! Ominis is much more reserved and has experience with things that Sebastian simply does not, where Sebastian is headstrong and reckless and has something worth fighting for to the bitter end. They're both strong willed though, which I really like them as a duo. Personally I just like Ominis a bit more but Sebastian is in my top 5.

[high creek]

They both have quite fleshed out family histories and experiences from those families that I kinda wish we had more of with some of the other students.

[oak tapir]

I find it a bit strange that even though we can encounter Blacks, Weasleys, Prewetts, and Gaunts, there is not a single Potter or a Malfoy in Hogwarts Legacy. Weren't they prominent wizarding families as well in late 19th century?

If the game was set two years later, we would encounter a Dumbledore (Albus goes to Hogwarts in 1892)

[high creek]

There may be some younger or older Potters and Malfoys, but I can understand why they wouldn't want to draw attention that way too much.

[ornate mica]

Potter was a fairly prominent name yeah. I think it was a game design choice to help remove us from the "Harry Potter" mindset of Hogwarts.

[split radish]

1. Profesor Fig 2. Profesor Fig 3. Profesor fig

[marble dagger]

1. Sebastian 2. Professor Fig 3. Deek

[modern moth]

garlick , GARLICK , GARLICK

[karmic basin]

1. Deek, 2. Natty, 3. Poppy

[fringe grove]

I would disagree about your comment about Tolkien, but I do understand where you're coming from. But his characters outside of, LOTR are amazing. Especially in Silmarillion and other works similar. (Outside Gandalf. His character is definitely the best in lotr, though its hard for me to see Tolkien amd one dimensionalin the same sentence)

I've never been able to get into the books because I've felt it Borrows too much from Tolkien. But that's just what I've seen and people have told me, who have read the books. So take that with a grain of salt.
I'm trying to get into HP simply because Tolkien is the reason we have our modern fantasy, so I might as well read the books of those inspired by him

[broken hull]

SIMPPPP jk

[modern moth]

[broken hull]

I feel like harry potter and LOTR are like the 2 main fantasy franchises

[fringe grove]

Oh they are, for sure. But Tplkiem will always be The father of modern fantasy, before getting into HP I used to call HP the stepmother of modern fantasy 😭

[broken hull]

tbh harry potter is literally modern fantasy lol

[fringe grove]

Yeah. Lol

[rare knot]

I agree that some of the characters outside of LOTR have somewhat more complexity - it's just a shame they read like dry history textbooks that keep any potential audience outside of the most dedicated Tolkien fans from enjoying them.

But I guess that goes back to my argument that he wasn't a particular good writer. And that's coming from someone who loves the world he created.

I guess we will have to agree to disagree on that though.

[twin ibex]

Narnia and game of thrones want a word

[fringe grove]

I will agree. I'm more interested in his world, the gods, and people, per say, rather than the writing. But I still love his writing.

[fringe grove]

Narnia, yes
Got is good but I can't stand the writer

[twin ibex]

He's just an old man what's wrong w him

Fudgy old writer man

[broken tiger]

is garlick gay

[rain oyster]

no, shes hot

[ornate mica]

Maybe? There's nothing saying she isn't as far as I know.

[violet lion]

Garlick is transsssss

[ornate mica]

Is she? I know Sirona is but I think Prof. Garlick has been referred to as a girl when she was in Hogwarts and now.

[violet lion]

all muggle borns are trans

[ornate mica]

No, they're not. But anyway.

[high creek]

Professor Garlick is a lesbian, Sirona is trans. Actually the friendship between the pair is something you can find a bit more information about by finding and reading some of the notes that are lying around and by completing the side quest for Sirona's box of letters, it's something I'd be keen to learn some more about.

[broken tiger]

thanks

[ornate mica]

Where did you find info showing that Professor Garlick is a lesbian?

[high creek]

It was on her character card when they revealed her name, it mentions her never even leaving Hogwarts for the right witch and that she would have to love the students as much as Mirabel does.

It's not outwardly said in the game that I've seen but certain things that you can find out by talking to her and reading some of the notes certainly offer some hints about her history and about how Sirona had a hand in helping her accept herself.

[ornate mica]

Oh ok! That makes sense then, especially the bit on her character card. I took her "finding herself" with Sirona's help to mean she helped her accept her weirdness lmao. 😂

[high creek]

It's certainly not a thing that's shouted about but it makes sense once you know. If they want to do a dlc of Mirabel and Sirona's schooldays I am here for it.

[ornate mica]

I'd love to see more Sirona and Mirabel!

Though I think the history I want to know about the most is that of Professor Hecat.

Possibly Professor Sharp as well.

[high creek]

They just give you enough to grab your interest but there is a lot more to learn. I've been trying to grab all the extra conversations with the teachers to learn a bit more about them and I've never found any of it boring.

[ornate mica]

Did you catch that Professor Hecat and Headmaster Black are the same age?

[high creek]

Yeah, how accepting she is of it all is really quite impressive.

[ornate mica]

I'm super eager to learn more about her history, she seems like such a wise and travelled character.

[high creek]

There is certainly a lot more there than they have told us.

[gusty steeple]

l.

[modern moth]

Poppy, deek, garlick

[devout goblet]

All my homies love deek

[summer shore]

love the way they're both written so far. not in your face, stereotypical chars to be like "look we have diverse characters" - like in some games - just vibing being who they are.

[iron prism]

Sebastian, fig, victor

[late oyster]

<@&755190193367023772>

[gray stone]

@foggy wharf

No

[foggy wharf]

Why

[gray stone]

I'm not going to explain.

Just don't.

[thorn relic]

professor garlick is lesbian?

[rancid dock]

one can never have too much Garlick in their food ~ it's just too good ~

[uneven vapor]

Deek is #1

[dusty osprey]

I never once thought Garlick was lesbian but I mean I guess that's cool to know now :v

[barren harbor]

most popular NPC after the survey

[zenith wolf]

She kinda gives off fruity vibes tho, i thought she would be at least bi/pan

[modern moth]

Professor Garlick, Ominis Gaunt, and Poppy Sweeting!

[prisma wedge]

Sebastian Sallow, Ominis Gaunt and the third I have to stop and think about...

[barren harbor]

deek for sure right?

[ornate charm]

Ominis Gaunt, Professor Ronen, Sebastian Sallow. Haven't finished the story yet so opinions might change 😅

[proper tusk]

Sebastian, Ominis and Deek

[valid glacier]

Does anyone know what house all the teachers are from?

[ornate charm]

Hecat: Ravenclaw
Ronen: Slytherin
Garlick: Hufflepuff
Sharp: Slytherin

Ones I know. Also safe to say Weasley was a Gryffindor

[high creek]

She is. A lot of the other teachers didn't go to Hogwarts so their house status is a bit unclear. You'd think Headmaster Black was Slytherin as well.

[prisma wedge]

I dont get it why people are so fond of Deek

[prisma wedge]

I think Weasley introduces herself as head of Gryffindor house when you first meet her but I could be wrong
Obviously the character is channeling McGonagall

who was the head of Gryffindor, and also deputy headmistress

[fossil shell]

shes a descendant of Arthur Weasley

[candid beacon]

With a last name like Weasley i'd hope so.

[prisma wedge]

Weasley was one of the big pureblood houses in the lore.

[dawn grail]

And not as inbred as the Malfoys

[prisma wedge]

makes you curious how they have remained pureblood so long while loving muggles

[native jungle]

It’s a mutual respect thing that the malfoys don’t share

[modern moth]

If you used imperio on someone, can you force them to use spells?

[leaden oriole]

I wish that'd be pretty cool but probably confusing to implement

[fresh flare]

Ancestor is before, descendant would mean she came after Arthur (also Molly is related to Arthur before they married so she’s also an ancestor to Molly)

[fresh flare]

Molly and Arthur were still related though before marriage they mentioned they were distant cousins or something in the books

[prisma wedge]

ingame or in-lore?
I assume the answer is a clear yes to the latter.

[knotty forum]

I mean if we are going by lore, you should be able to, as you have control over said person. However in the game, you can't.
Also depends on how strong the imperius Curse is, because it is possible to resist said curse, if your mind is strong enough.

[prisma wedge]

I mean, total control. I guess with spells it depends on the personal ability of the caster somewhat

In the game, Sebastian used Imperio to ||make a goblin kill himself.|| If thats possible, I would say so is everything else.

There is a reason why its an unforgivable curse.

[knotty forum]

Sure, i think it really depends on the "spell strength" of the caster. Even though a 3rd year may be able to cast the curse, that does not necessarily mean its any good...

[prisma wedge]

3rd or any year students of Hogwarts aren't supposed to be casting unforgivables... 😛

[knotty forum]

Oh yeah. I am just so used to playing this game, and casting avada kedavra at anyone lol

[prisma wedge]

tell me about it. Im somewhat miffed at my character being this well-mannered, timid and obedient little girl in the cutscenes, and while exploring blowing enemies into their component atoms..
Youd think that she would show at last a tiny bit of attitude in dialog.

[broken hull]

you must really mean it when you want to cast an unforgivable otherwise it wont work. this is shown when harry wants to cast crucio on bella but all it does is making her lose balance cuz harry didnt really mean it when he wanted to hurt her. meaning that even if you cast the killing curse if you dont really mean it most it will do is probably knock your oponent of balance

[knotty forum]

True, however even if you mean it, it doesn't mean you have the ability to cast it. You could cast a very weak curse.

[prisma wedge]

funny how using ancient magic to turn an enemy permanently into a chicken is not an unforgivable 😂
But I guess its because nobody is aware of such magic existing..

The Ancient magic finishers are just as bad as the unforgivables...

[broken hull]

well you could argue that by that logic configuration would also be an unforgivable since you could literally turn someone into an explosive and detonate it. also its made quite clear throughout the entire game that there aren't alot of people that know about the existence of ancient magic thus the ministry couldn't classify it as an unforgivable since well they probably don't know about it or don't believe it actually exists.

[prisma wedge]

yeah like I said

[broken hull]

my bad thats the one part i just didnt read cuz i didnt notice it lol

[prisma wedge]

But our character is a 15-year old terminator. I wish they would act like it in the dialog... 😛

or even hinted at them simply being deceptive and hiding their murderous intent. This would be pretty amazing, especially when coupled with the Sallow storyline, where it could be seen that we were manipulating the slytherin pair into teaching us DA.

[broken hull]

but you could also say that the reason its not classified as unforgivable is cuz it has lots of uses aside from combat where as unforgivables are made purely to inflict harm and suffering upon the victim. otherwise spells like bombarda could also be called unforgivable given the harm you could inflict using it.

[prisma wedge]

"Never try to understand the students. They hate it. They would much rather be tragically misunderstood, wallow in self-pity, stew in their own —"
— Phineas Nigellus's portrait

[fresh flare]

Anyone else notice that there’s “technically” 3 Weasleys there is the obvious ones (the deputy headmistress and her nephew) but then there is also the fact that one of the students is a prewett which is mollys maiden name and since Molly was a distant cousin of Arthur that makes this prewett related too

[broken hull]

well then technically every wizard is technically a weasley since they are basically all connected in some way

[fresh flare]

I see your point but we can at least say there are 3 relatives of the weasleys from Harry’s time still find it weird that there was no mention of a malfoy or potter though considering they are pure bloods with long history too being part of the sacred 28

[broken hull]

i can be annoying and say then there are way more than just 3 lol but i wont (even though i just did) but yeah i guess then there are at least 3 relatives that are the most related to the weasleys lol

[broken hull]

not too sure about the malfoys but i believe potters actually originated from a muggle. the name potter that is

but again not too sure cuz this is based on one video i saw a couple days ago which i can't even clearly remember. i'll watch it again tho to be sure

[prisma wedge]

this sounds like a meme in the making

[fresh flare]

Ok I just searched it potters weren’t on the list because it was a common muggle name so they could never be certain whether those muggles were related but even so they do have a long family history so it wouldn’t be weird to see some potters during this time

[broken hull]

i could send a link to a video explaining how every family is related in some way lol but that'd probably be against the rules. just look up harry potter family tree on youtube and you'll find a video about it soon enough lol

[broken hull]

aah so i was correct in saying it originated from a muggle

if im to believe what this video is saying then iolanthe peverell which was a decendant of ignotus peverell married a guy named hardwin potter who assuming was a muggle. this eventually led to henry potter a son of ms. fleamont. he then had a son named fleamont potter which then married eophoria (last name unkown) and they had james potter aka harry's father. i guess james was a pure blood since idk how many generations before him where wizard-witch. the reason harry isn't tho is cuz his mother is a muggleborn.

[modern moth]

Gryffindor: Weasley & Fig
Slytherin: Black, Sharp, & Ronen
Ravenclaw: Hecat & Shah
Hufflepuff: Garlick & Howin

Professors Onai and Kogawa both attended school elsewhere.

[severe junco]

isn’t none of this canon since it wasn’t written by J.K. Rowling?

i mean surely even if jk rowling supported the game in a tweet, the game was made against her wishes.

so in regards to lore the game is like anti-lore

[fossil shell]

I mean the game isn’t lore if you look at it like that but I think considering it as lore is okay

[orchid needle]

Which is a shame, since this game shows us the most of that elusive “ancient magic”

[fossil shell]

Yea we would just need JKR’s seal of approval on it to be lore which would be cool if she did

[orchid needle]

What makes ancient magic so different than normal magic lol. Who knew magic had a tier level

[modern meteor]

There are various forms of magic, potions, divination, arithmancy, etc. This "ancient magic" is so mysterious that it hasn't had a proper category, but I would argue it's emotion magic or something like that

[orchid needle]

Perfect opportunity for JKR to expand on that concept and maybe have a designated origin story

[modern meteor]

I think canonically "wand magic" is a European invention and other cultures channeled magic through other means. Maybe some cultures lean more toward incantation circles or concoctions. I would like to see how other schools in the world teach magic.

[orchid needle]

If at some point the Wizarding World goes beyond western countries

[modern meteor]

I was under the impression that fantastic beasts would be the beginning of that, but I guess not

[orchid needle]

There’s a slim chance we’d go beyond the Anglo-sphere in the magic world. Maybe Beaubaxton or a Durmstrang spin off at most if in Europe

[modern meteor]

Yeah it felt like there was a Durmstrang tease earlier in the game. Maybe a more gritty magic game is in the works??

[hollow nest]

Is there marijuana in the wizarding world

[orchid needle]

One can hope. Imagine the linguistic nightmares attending Durmstrang lol

[modern meteor]

Yes

[modern moth]

A thousand years or more ago
When I was newly sewn,
There lived four wizards of renown,
Whose names are still well known:

Bold Gryffindor, from wild moor,
Fair Ravenclaw, from glen,
Sweet Hufflepuff, from valley broad,
Shrewd Slytherin, from fen.

They shared a wish, a hope, a dream,
They hatched a daring plan
To educate young sorcerers
Thus Hogwarts School began.

Now each of these four founders
Formed their own house, for each
Did value different virtues
In the ones they had to teach.

By Gryffindor, the bravest were
Prized far beyond the rest;
For Ravenclaw, the cleverest
Would always be the best;

For Hufflepuff, hard workers were
Most worthy of admission;
And power-hungry Slytherin
Loved those of great ambition.

While still alive they did divide
Their favourites from the throng,
Yet how to pick the worthy ones
When they were dead and gone?

Twas Gryffindor who found the way,
He whipped me off his head
The founders put some brains in me
So I could choose instead!

Now slip me snug about your ears,
I've never yet been wrong,
I'll have a look inside your mind
And tell where you belong!

[modern meteor]

Why

[prisma wedge]

wait where?

[modern meteor]

When doing the first duels I think? One of the students passively talks about the main character should transfer to durmstrang if they find hogwarts too easy or something like that

[prisma wedge]

right. But just mentioning one of the other schools is hardly a tease. I mean Natty talks about Uagadou far more as an example.

[modern meteor]

Yeah but they were telling the player to go to a specific place for a greater challenge. Being a game full of challenges, I took this as a tease for future challenges, potentially.

Game devs like teasing people, even if nothing comes from it. As long as people are talking about their game

[gusty steeple]

etylk'-]\

[agile scroll]

facts ur character makes voldemort look like a clown

[modern moth]

Isn’t our character in the game stronger then anyone in the books pretty much

[modern meteor]

The sheer mass of "bad guys" dispatched

[prisma wedge]

This is usually the case with video action RPG protagonists. They make anybody from movies etc look like warm milk.

Im reminded of Starkiller from that star wars game as an example. He pulled down a star destroyer with the force...

[modern moth]

What year does the game take place

[knotty forum]

The game takes place in the 1890's

[plain girder]

how down bad was hagrids dad to do the deed with a 20ft giantess

[prisma wedge]

1890 (assumed). I noticed they deleted the date from the newspaper (the article about Ranrok) in the beginning. It originally said 1890 in the preview version of the game. I think.

[knotty forum]

Oh yeah you are right. I never noticed they removed the year. Makes me wonder why tho..

[prisma wedge]

Maybe because of the possibility of getting a first year Dumbledore 😄

[knotty forum]

I mean if we are going by said year in the preview, we would be a 7th year, before dumbledore starts as a 1st year. They could just not progress they story with another year, but i mean you are probably right.

[modern moth]

When does dumbledoor come to the school

[knotty forum]

1892

[modern moth]

he’s at the school right now I bet, they added chamber of secrets and so many other things he must be at the school

[knotty forum]

It would be cool to be able to talk to him tbh

[modern moth]

I wonder if this game is canon and if it is I wonder what happens to our character

[knotty forum]

I mean "technically" it is not cannon, because it is not "endorsed" by JK rowling, however most people assume its cannon, and so does the Harry Potter Wiki

[modern moth]

Ok also why is Voldemort evil

[knotty forum]

I don't know, you should probably ask him lol

[modern moth]

What if our player was Voldemort at the end of the game as a twist

[knotty forum]

Voldemort was born in 1926, so that cannot be true.

[modern moth]

Oh ok, is any professor from this game still Alive when harry is around

[knotty forum]

Nope

[modern moth]

Damn, did you watch the movies

[agile scroll]

Pretty much yea

[dusty osprey]

Wait for JK Rowling to say it's canon and then bam its canon

[bright rune]

That’d make no sense, where’s his ancient magic

[azure arch]

the story is just doubling down on the Secret Elitist Club. Wizards keep secret magic knowledge from the muggers "for their own good" so the game has to step it up to make you feel special by having a new class of Super Wizards who keep secret magic away from pleeb Wizards and others.

the next game will be about an even fewer elitist group that can not only see and manipulate ancient magic but has it in their blood and are magic, like a chosen one sent to fulfill a prophecy over good and evil and bring peace to the galaxy.

[steep matrix]

its abot as canon as a unwritten story, it exists but zero records of it (due to the position as keeper)

[daring blaze]

This is also kinda why I want an elder wand dlc. It'll wrap everything up nice and neat. The elder wand after being stolen from arcus or livius could be our character, that blank patch in history right before gregorovitch. And gregorovitch gets tbe wand by killing our character. Not exactly a happy ending but the wands history is bloody and would give a reasonable explanation of our character not being in the voldemort era.

[pallid trail]

Man should write the sequel for this game, i like this already.

[daring blaze]

Lol. I just really like the game. Kinda wish we could get our hands on the house relics.

[steep matrix]

somewhere in the near future, where smartphones exist

[daring blaze]

Are we ever told if the killing curse is painless? We know it's instantaneous but I don't rememeber if it was painless or not.

[blissful ginkgo]

Not 100% shure, but from a logical standpoint I would assume it is. The moment you are dead you’re consciousness is cut off from your body. So no nerves who can send any Pain to you. If you become a Ghost maybe some magic can cause you pain. That’s it. Going to Afterlive, we’ll I don’t know.

[daring blaze]

In which case I can see humane uses for the killing curse. Like executions, assisted suicide if pain is too great for incurable conditions, and law enforcement.

[daring blaze]

Do we know if merlin was pure blood half blood or muggle born?

[red wren]

He was in slytherin early on and if i recall right only pure blood were accepted to this house but i can be wrong

[astral delta]

shouldnt fire spells be in the unforgettable curses category as well? same with Oblviate the memory wipe?

or as a matter of fact shouldnt any spell that may cause a being harm be in the unforgettable curses category?

[stuck mulch]

It is not dark arts so it is not unforgivable

[gloomy fable]

It technically can't be canon since everyone makes their own choices

[astral delta]

i mean fire spells are dark in a way

[gloomy fable]

Wdym they're as bright as it can get xd

[astral delta]

you set the person on fire alive

[knotty forum]

I know what you mean, but the story itself doesn't change much, so yes. It can be canon.

[ancient peak]

Fire can also give off warmth in a cold night. Fire can be "good" unlike literally torturing someone or mind control

[astral delta]

true

[broken hull]

this answers the exact question i was about to ask lol thanks

[broken hull]

onai at uagadou and i assume kogawa at a school in japan?

[lilac oxide]

I guess it depends on your intent of how you use em 😂👌

[astral delta]

true

[ornate mica]

The difference is that the Unforgivable Curses cannot be used for good. Ever. They are specifically for killing or harming someone.

Curses and spells that burn, transfigure, etc. aren't inherently evil. The wizard chooses what they do with that.

I feel like Sectumsempra could be an Unforgivable Curse as well.

[astral delta]

like Seb said in order to use the 3 Unforgettable Curses you actually have to mean it for it to work

[knotty forum]

She went to a japanese school called Mahoutokoro

[broken hull]

aaah yeah that was the name

[eager anvil]

I would assume spells that are in "The defence against the dark arts" is permissible as self defence as in this universe you can assume it's normal mage users vs dark mage users

[astral delta]

in the Wizarding World are Warlocks and Sorcerers still being used?

[eager anvil]

I guess it depeneds where you're from

[astral delta]

because in the Pottervers its Wizards and Witches

now in the Muggle World Merlin as we know was a Fairy-tale Warlock

speaking of Witches i wonder if the Salem Witch trails still happend but different

[foggy wharf]

New lore: I’m BRICKED up rn Ong😭🤦‍♂️

[astral delta]

one thing im confused about is Hermione had the same classes as Harry n Ron so why dont they have time turners as well?

and if shes using the time turner to get to classes on time isnt kinda messing with time?

[delicate horizon]

Hermione attended way more classes that possible without „messing“ with the time, therefore she got the time Turner to attend two classes at the same time

[olive flint]

Well they can, but thats not the spoiler channel. Can't say more than that (here).

[quasi smelt]

I wonder what Hogwarts is like with Professor McGonagall as Headmistress. It's too bad she's no longer the head of hpuse for Griffindor

[ornate mica]

This is the spoiler subsection I thought.

[quasi smelt]

I think spells are neither good nor evil. Magic isn't evil itself, only in the hearts of mankind.

[olive flint]

I will post in the story spoiler channel, if you want you can read what I mean over there :D not sure if spoilers are fine in the lore channel (?)

[quasi smelt]

I'm avoiding the spoilers tab until I finish the game.

[ornate mica]

Some spells are inherently evil, but it requires a solid foundation on what good and evil is.

Crucio, for instance, is a spell that tortures and has no other purpose. If you think that there's ever a situation in which torture is morally good, then yeah, it could be used for good.

Generally speaking however, mind control, torture and killing someone is going to be evil. And since those spells have no other use, they are Unforgivable.

Unlike Incendio, which can kill someone because it's fire, but fire itself isn't evil.

[ornate mica]

I would avoid this section too! It's in the spoiler subsection. Just to be safe.

[quasi smelt]

Alright 👍

[indigo portal]

What's the deal with hogs in the Harry Potter world? Noticed a lot of hog statues and the two main hubs are called Hogsmead and Hogwarts

[prime raptor]

According to a couple interviews JKR had she thought there were some lilies called "hogwarts". There is a plant called hogwort but it's not a flower so who knows. She probably went with hogsmeade to stick with the initial school "hog" theme, and mead is a common alcoholic beverage

[indigo portal]

Ahh makes some kind of sense now. Never been a huge Potter fan, besides from just watching the movies. But seeing the hog statues then realizing that everything is named after hogs, is like why lol

[modern moth]

Correct! Professor Kogawa went to Mahōtokoro.

[tawny shell]

i have always wondered how the enchanted paintings work. Are they some how copies of the living person but in painting form

[night bolt]

Anyone know why moaning myrtle is a ghost?
I mean she was a student and she knew how to leave imprints of herself behind?

[prime raptor]

She wanted to haunt her bully out of revenge. Since she didn't move on due to her desire for revenge, she is permanently stuck as a ghost and can never go to the afterlife

[night bolt]

Huh that’s interesting

[daring blaze]

Has there ever been a dragon animagus?

[prime raptor]

Nope, as far as lore goes there hasn't been one. But it is probably possible

[zinc zealot]

@daring blaze @prime raptor Hm come to think of it, haven't animagi we've heard about only had magicless animal forms, not magical beast forms?
A dragon would be a magical beast

[daring blaze]

Exactly. I would love to be a dragon animagi but the form of your animagus form isn't conciously determined.

[zinc zealot]

I wonder though if it cannot be a magical beast, because magical beasts have their own properties of magic inherent to the species that they cannot alter, whereas wizards and witches have free reign in which to experiment with their own magic...I think they can only have normal animal forms. This is all speculation on my part.

[prime raptor]

It's hard to say if a dragon is considered magical. They are labeled as beasts by the Ministry of Magic and are mortal creatures as well. Not all animagi registered their forms as well so it's possible there has been one but they never let themselves be known 👀

[zinc zealot]

They absolutely are magical beasts. For instance, why would their heartstrings be put into wands otherwise?

[prime raptor]

Ya you're right, when you look into how beast actually is defined it does state magical beasts 👍

[shadow fern]

I expected his death to be cooler

[modern moth]

The simplest explanation is that they are magically enchanted to imitate the person depicted in the painting.

[jovial snow]

Do you think that wizards and witches in the Scandinavian region would use incantations in Old Norse or pseudo-Old Norse, or possibly some other older or ancient Germanic languages? Some of them may use Latin, since it had a huge impact on most of the countries at one point at least - though not so much now. But I’d imagine there’s a fair bit of galdr spells there, or simply spells that are identical to the ones used by British wizards but with Old Norse incantations instead.

Fljúgaflyta Lopthár!

It’s kinda pseudo-Old Norse I came up for a flying or levitation charm incantation. Worst word is literally just Flyfloat. Doesn’t make much sense. Could be either Fljúga (to fly) or Flyta (to float, to move) instead. Lopthár might never be said in Old Norse in all of the language's history, but essentially it means "Skyhigh", from lopt (sky, air) and hár (high.)
Fljúgaflyta Lopthár!

Could instead be Uppflyta Lopthár.

"Up-float/move sky-high."

[orchid needle]

If any school was going to use Ancient Nordic incantations, it’s going to be Durmstrang

[daring blaze]

This is something I always wondered. And what about witches and wizards from uagadou where I don't think latin influence reached? I feel like the incantations used in spells more so help focus intent to produce the desired effect of a spell. Since wordless magic is possible I believe once a witch or wizard with sufficent skill and experience obtains enough familiarity with magic they won't need the assistance of words to shape intent.

[jovial snow]

Perhaps, but the problem with this school is that the location and what cultures, languages, and nationalities we have seen from it doesn’t seem to add up. Located in somewhere in Sweden yet most of all if not all characters we’ve seen have been Slavic and eastern european. The name of the school is also kinda Germanic, I guess? That does make some sense, actually, at least!

[jovial snow]

I wonder why Flitwick stated the incantation and the pronunciation of it was very important.

[modern moth]

Durmstrang is essentially the "everyone else" school of Europe.

If you're not at Hogwarts or Beauxbatons, you probably attend a smaller school or Durmstrang.

[jovial snow]

Oh, and another thing is that I don’t feel the Nordic countries would be very into the whole pure blood supremacy nonsense Durmstrang has looming over it, being some of the most tolerant and socialist countries there are - with exceptions. But the exception tends to be largely liberal and not fully conservative. But then again, the Muggle culture and politics don’t necessarily translate to the Wizarding one in any given nation.

I mean it clearly DOES, to a large extend, but also no it in many ways.

[jovial snow]

Honestly I feel it makes more sense for Scandinavian, and Nordic, Wizards to go to a school in France than a very seemingly Slavic and Eastern European-styled one. It is however also possible that Rowling isn’t correct or hasn’t fully decided yet on the location of the school and it is then not at all near or in Sweden - or even largely culturally Slavic or Eastern European aesthetically. Maybe that one headmaster and Viktor were just super popular and top of their class / field

[modern moth]

It's possible that Scandinavians go to a smaller school that isn't a member of the Big 11 as well.

[jovial snow]

Maybe. Or homeschooling.

[orchid needle]

Quite frankly, Germany should have its own school. Our culture with magic runs deep with fairy tales, especially made famous by the Brothers Grimm

[jovial snow]

I wonder what kind of magical ministries the Scandinavian and/or Nordic nations even have, or if they are considered such small nations by their own Wizarding populations that they instead have a unified government between all or many of the countries

In fact, the Scandinavian (and possibly Finnish as well) wizarding communities could have merged even with Germany, as it is both an insanely huge country by European standards, is very close by and has a great position, being connected to so many countries around itself, best strategically good position

[modern moth]

This wouldn't surprise me considering that their "national" Quidditch team is comprised of all the Nordic nations!

[jovial snow]

Durmstrang could even be in Germany.

[orchid needle]

I’m biased so I want it to be in Germany lol

[jovial snow]

In many sports it is very common in the Scandinavian countries to have players from all over the world. Not sure about on national teams, if that is allowed though. In our real Muggle world that is!

Most of our ice hockey teams have a lot of Canadians on them.

[orchid needle]

The reality is that JKR was writing HP with a very Anglo-Centric view. Everything else outside of Hogwarts is up for debate and given second handed lore

[jovial snow]

It’d make a lot of sense honestly. It would also make a lot of sense for a unified government to be there.

[orchid needle]

There is a confirmed German Ministry of Magic in Fantastic Beasts, so the possibilities is limitless

[jovial snow]

Oh wait. There is canonically a Norwegian Ministry of Magic!!

It’s mentioned in the JKR book Quidditch Through The Ages, The Secrets of Dumbledore original screenplay and its film.

OH WAIT THERE’S A DANISH ONE TOO.

[orchid needle]

You can assume there’s a Ministry for every country

[jovial snow]

In FBaWtFT (First movie), it is mentioned that apparition by under-seventeens have been legalised in Denmark, which implies we have a ministry of magic here.

[orchid needle]

Imagine if Lichtenstein had a Ministry lmfao

[jovial snow]

Or at the very least wizarding laws that pertains to our country’s wizarding community only

[orchid needle]

“Yes, we have a total of five wizards in Lichtenstein”

[modern moth]

Avada kedavra is a stupid spell

[red wren]

Where were the main schools beside hogwarts? And do every country have some kind of something like this?

[orchid needle]

It varies depending who you are talking to. Outside of Hogwarts, Ilvernmorny, Beaubaxtons and Durmstrang have some lore behind them