builds

[soft flare]

I know if you avadakedavra an enemy with the trait applied it kills all other cursed enemies didn't know about the transform one though. That's cool!

[woeful adder]

I also got to correct some of my previous statements, since further testing showed the presence of an extra variable that we'll call "crit" (yellow numbers), which was sometimes messing with the multipliers I found:

Curse = +5% damage (1.05 multiplier)
Crit ≈ +20% damage (≈1.20 multiplier, but the more precise formula is: crit_dmg = 1.2·dmg + A, where A is a small constant scaling on offence)
Glacius = +100% damage (2.00 multiplier)
Glacius crit ≈ +140% damage (≈2.40 multiplier, but the more precise formula is: glacrit = 2·1.2·dmg + B, where B is a small constant scaling on offence)

To reliably trigger "crits", the target has to be CC'd with yellow spells. CC'able mobs like goblins, spiders, humans will typically get critted during glacius and take 2.4x damage, while sturdier mobs like dugbougs and trolls are not affected by CC and will only take 2x damage.

Crucio has the same effects of a CC and will give you the +20% damage bonus, on top of all other multipliers

[rare cradle]

Yeah but without the mastery it's a lil underwhelming. Gotta have the mastery

[fast stirrup]

who can give me the best build for most damage

[amber shore]

I thought you could cc dugbougs with levioso spell when they go to attack you with their tongue? U levioso them mid attack and use the slice spell to 1 shot them kinda like cutting their tongue in half

And you can cc trolls with their mace. casting dispulso after you dodge their mace attack it flings back their mace on them and they are then cced by their own mace

Or flependo i cant remember the one exactly

[woeful adder]

what I meant is CC like other enemies that you can juggle around. Also, trolls enter a weakened state that makes them take much more dmg, so I'd consider them different situations

[tacit hatch]

What's the best combat build to early-mid game

[upper shadow]

Has anyone tried a no protego/stupidly build? Is it feasible to dodge everything?

[primal dew]

I dodge everything but its easier on mouse and keyboard and even easier if you come from grinding Elden ring lol

[upper shadow]

So far do you think you can beat the game without using any protego/stupify?

[primal dew]

wanna laugh? I beat the game without any of those but I’m an idiot dont do it.

[tidal coral]

vsync on of off?

[livid mesa]

I am horrible with timing, and protego has a cooldown so I just spam dodge while waiting on cooldowns and managed to beat the game without using protego except when a quest called for it.

[frigid coyote]

Can you still roll dodge if you upgrade to swift

[full dirge]

I have yet to use protego or stupefy once in my play through

[coral oxide]

Yes just tap instead of hold

[rugged jackal]

Can someone pin this? ^

[spare dagger]

mod team is looking at it and then we'll pin if we have the ok to 😊

[woeful adder]

damn, wish I had seen that sooner lol, would have saved me the bother. Just pin that link then, rest is worthless

[zenith spade]

Haha, the user just posted it today.

[woeful adder]

I had posted a similar reddit topic yesterday but it never saw the light 🤷‍♂️ , that's why I decided to share it here. What a waste of time

[zenith spade]

I edited my comment and tagged the mods. Hopefully they'll be able to pin it.

[last token]

hey guys, does the transformation mastery build with crucio still work

just checked, it works

[candid drum]

I have literally been sneaking around and tossing cabbages into camps watching them decimate.

[restive sage]

I keep vsync off on everything

[near atlas]

<@&755190193367023772> Sorry for tag! Wanted you all to see these two awesome links.

[spare dagger]

we saw! we'll discuss about whether it can be pinned or not

[grim geyser]

Ip loggers be like

[near atlas]

I'ma loggin yer keys!

[grim geyser]

jokes on you i dont have keys

[near atlas]

dang it!

[celest bay]

Please no links🙏🏾

[solid idol]

what is considered max lvl

[near atlas]

Assuming this means it won't be pinned @spare dagger?

[spiral hazel]

We are still discussing, we are just still a bit panicky with links, its all good!

[near atlas]

Oh okay understood and makes sense. I'm always about helping the community if I see something super cool.

That website also has a witch/wizard name generator that is crazy good. DM me for the link if any of you want to check it out.

[young kindle]

question

where do i ask for quest help

[spare dagger]

#1063582649647628409

[jagged hull]

what are the best talent upgrades i can get at the start

[lavish escarp]

My go to starting talents are Spell Knowledge I, Spell Knowledge II, Swift, Human Demiguise, Sense of Secrecy, Wiggenweld Potency I, Basic Cast Mastery. Some might want to skip the Stealth ones entirely, but I find that taking at least these two helps a lot

[tidal coral]

hey guys im still fairly new to controller gaming as i got my ps5 controller a couple weeks ago, and im rly struggling with dealing with stick drift.

i use a ps5 controller on my pc thru steam, and its getting rly annoying haha. especially when im battling.

how do you guys all deal with this or fix it? any help is appreciated ❤️

[jagged hull]

thanks

[forest dock]

should I get protego mastery

[lavish escarp]

It's a convenient way to break shields if a) You use Protego regularly (rather than dodging) and b) You can nail perfect Protegos regularly

[stiff pagoda]

yeah it send a kind of wave around you its awsome 🙂

[woven thicket]

you can switch in between 2 different modes in combat:

1. target lock camera (press Left stick when looking on one)
2. free camera (just dont press left stick, or press it again if you have a target locked) both can be really helpful depending on the situation.

also you can decide in settings whether you want attacks to go where you look at, or where you aim with your left stick.
i personally prefer where i aim at, that way i can hit targets that are out of the camera, just by calculating where they should be.

[tidal coral]

thanks - is there any way to actually fix the stick drift tho? or do i have to live with it? because i deadass just got the controller like a couple weeks ago

[woven thicket]

i‘m not exactly sure what you mean with stickdrift.
you mean when the camera spins a bit, when you move in another direction?

[zenith spade]

Thank you! 👍

[midnight trellis]

Turn off camera acceleration maybe

[tidal coral]

yeah haha its a common problem with controllers but i seem to be getting it from time to time
i just wanted to know if other ppl experienced it as well

[tidal coral]

ill check that out, thanks

[quaint yarrow]

What are some rightful spells a person from each house would end up using. I feel like doing a run on my next few characters to match that. 🐍gonna end up in the dark arts ofc

[woeful adder]

In my head I pictured them this way, but obv one could swap around as they please:

Slytherin: curse focused build (unfor.curse trait)
Hufflepuff: plant build (cabbage/herbology traits)
Griffindor: red spell build (conc. Trait)
Ravenclaw: ancient magic build (AM focus trait)

[dreamy radish]

If it’s really drifting after a few weeks you should ask the store for replacement or refund. I’ve used my PS5 controller on PC for more than a year and still no drifting 🤞

[tidal coral]

damn alright thanks - also do u use bluetooth? hows the input delay? i feel like i can feel it quite a lot and im not sure if its just my weird feeling or if its actually delayed

[dreamy radish]

I’m using Bluetooth. Not noticeable delay but I’m not a hardcore gamer.

[tidal coral]

ahh alright thanks!!

[dreamy radish]

Does your camera or player move when you leave your joystick untouched?

If yes it’s drifting and nothing you can do. It’s hardware issue.

[tidal coral]

mmm well its like when i look around a lot sometimes, and i release my finger, it still spins for like a second a lot

[dreamy radish]

Perhaps that’s camera sensitivity

[tidal coral]

i tried turning off camera acceleration and set my sens at 2 but i couldnt quite test it long enough to see the difference yet haha hopefully its alright

[dreamy radish]

Like I said, if it’s drifting when you don’t touch the controller, it’s hardware problem. If not, it’s something to do with settings in the game. Hope you find the fix soon!

[quaint yarrow]

Fair. Sadly I did my initial playthrough as huffle so that's out of being plant based only

[placid drift]

Was hoping could have some kind of talent reset, been putting points in randomly on my first play through 😄

[tidal coral]

tysm

[jolly gale]

Yeah they should have clarified that better, same when choosing the wand. Lore wise it makes sense of course, but I'm so used to customizing everything in RPG's so a bit annoying

[zenith spade]

If you're on PC, you can grab a mod on Nexusmods. But yeah, not sure why that wasn't shipped to live.

[civic tundra]

That is a feature which is lowering the number of hours players spend in the game, so obvioisly it was not a priority for launch. Some players willing to start over just to try diff builds.

[zenith spade]

No I get it. But ppl are not replaying the game for Talent points primarily imo. It's most likely to play different houses/slightly different quest lines. Builds in this game aren't that overly complicated. They could have just made the potion super rare to craft etc.

The asset files are in the game. IIRC they found out that the potion does exist, but was never implemented. Could be a future update, could be not.

Not everyone has the time to have more than 1 playthrough if you catch my drift.

[civic tundra]

I agree that it should be in the game, especially because they failed to provide numbers to us.. no cd, duration, dmg , scaling info, range or anything on spells or talents, which means players have to test very basic things too unfortunately.

[zenith spade]

^ someone data mined all of that. There's a post on reddit.

[upper shadow]

How do people change spell wheels? Do you prefer using next/prev spell set or actually keybinding spell set X

[civic tundra]

Yea, but this does not change the fact that such information should be available in game, on the spells and we should not look into 3rd party posts or the game files directly to gather basic information.

[civic tundra]

I'm just scrolling with mouse, normally have 1 set of spells for different occasions, 1 of them being combat.

[vagrant python]

guys wtf
i speedrun all arenas and got the world record in all of them

youtube not promoting my stuff though :/ i mean i do have bad video quality

[zenith spade]

Dm me the links Klaus. I have a run on the south coast arena I uploaded. Interested to see your time.

[solid idol]

guys how come i did the quest but i didnt learn the avada kedavara spell?

[zinc anvil]

You have to pick specific dialouge options i think

[solid idol]

what armour traits should i use for the dark wizard build?

[civic tundra]

How do you know what you did is world record?

[vagrant python]

i mean i did search for them on youtube

[rich bloom]

in my opinion for a dark build focus on dealing damage so anything that buffs curses or dmg in general should work but if you want specifics you can prolly look up a guide on yt

[stray prism]

with the right gear how good is a curse build?

[lapis hinge]

https://youtu.be/iQIHF_tNZak

[lavish escarp]

With the right talents and tactics it is one of the two best builds in the game at the moment (the other being a Herbology build) due to how powerful the Unforgivable trait is

[civic tundra]

stealth build also seems to be viable/on par with these.

[lavish escarp]

Stealth is great too, and it requires very little investment so you can easily integrate it into other builds

[stray prism]

on my first playthrough i tried making a build based soley around ancient magic

herbology is strong?

[forest dock]

what builds should I do?

[solid idol]

how do u get the elder wand?

[stray prism]

i dont think you can get the actual elder wand in this game

[dusty crypt]

you only have your own personal wand to use

[plush bramble]

can't decide between accio and levioso

I like both as resets for combos but accio seems more versatile?

I can't remember who it was, but wingardium leviosa on objects causes big damage if used in combat

[woven thicket]

accio as you should always go with glacio on burst, unless ofc you go dark arts, then it doesnt matter anyways

[plush bramble]

Dark arts aren't that fun imo, they take the difficulty out of the game

[plush bramble]

Accio, BC 3 times then glacio? I've been using accio as a reset off cooldown tbh

[smoky charm]

How do ppl handle curses in their slots? I am trying to keep 1 of each in a seperate spell selection but I havent gotten the last evil spell, is this a good idea? I am trying to play optimally.

Hello?

[stiff crescent]

Yooo

You can use unforgivable curses without any moral consequences in game, so go nuts

[smoky charm]

Not what I was asking, was I not clear?

[chrome crypt]

Combat wise it’s a great spell! It’s an instant kill on most living creatures.

Are you in mouse and keyboard or controller?

[smoky charm]

Controller

[stiff crescent]

also get the talents that unlock more spell slots you are def gonna need all 4, also controller is the best

[smoky charm]

I feel like I am being misunderstood

[stiff crescent]

my main slot is confringo, bombarda, diffindo and crucio
my 2nd is imperio, avada kedavra, incendio and transfiguration

[chrome crypt]

I get you ur trying to have a spell category pet slot right?

[smoky charm]

Yea, I use 1 purple,1 yellow and 2 dmg spells, but for my other alots I take away what would be one of my dmg spells for a curse

I am trying to be as optimal as possible

[stiff crescent]

you dont need colored spells once u know what ur doing

[chrome crypt]

My setup

R2 up is all my Curses
R2 left is all red
R2 right is all utility (I change this up when I’m doing housing or like puzzles)
R2 down is all force/control

[stiff crescent]

^^^ this is optimal

[chrome crypt]

It’s easier to also spam spells as each one is on cool down

[smoky charm]

Thats certainly different

So you switch of an enemy has a shield etc?

And then switch back to red?

[strong portal]

Has anyone hit over 20k damage yet?

[chrome crypt]

Depends on the fight but I usually imperio the highest level in a mob pack, and then let it kill the lesser mob. But when dueling I just switch between the slots. Like I got use to switching R2 up, down and right based on shield colors. Also if u curse them the shields break even in hard

[stiff crescent]

Once u unlock crucio mastery and avada kedavra mastery its gg

but for 90% of the time ur gonna rely on diffindo, confringo and bombarda

[vague night]

The killing curse becomes really fun if chained properly. I hope a sequel can provide a bit more on the talent side tho

[last patio]

yes, can we please have the ability to crank out the dmg without being all "anakin slaying younglings" vibe in the dark arts?! pretty please?

[frail birch]

@chrome crypt I saw you play on Xbox, could you possibly gameshare?

[azure aurora]

How are you all finding the game so far ?

[frail birch]

i think its great haven't played tho

[lavish escarp]

Apparently an ancient magic build can be made strong if you focus the trait that buffs the ancient magic throw, but then you are left out in the cold when you have nothing to throw.
And yes, Herbology is extremely potent when built around

[lavish escarp]

Yes, you can do that with ancient magic + Unforgivable traits on a cursed enemy

[primal dew]

Hi guys ! Currently I am level 25 and I am looking for the « best » talents points management! Maybe a level max here could share his choices ?

Also, are the bonus attributes that we put on the clothes cumulative or do we have to put one of each?

my English could be approximative lmao my bad !

[lavish escarp]

Unforgivable curses are supposed to be more powerful than more "ethical" spells, that's kinda the point, otherwise there would be no reason to use them. You can still deal a lot of damage without them.

[lavish escarp]

Traits you put on gear do stack, it's usually best to use 6 of the same kind.

As for talents, there are some great ones that should be taken every time but there is no one "best" talent build yet. As long as you take the "must haves", the rest is up to you and depend on what you want to focus on

[primal dew]

Oh great thanks for this helpful answer!! I’ll definitely stacks them to deal huge damage rn lol

Ok I’ll try to notice which one are the most useful, but pretty scared to have 1 or 2 points missing lool

[lavish escarp]

You get enough talent points to get 36 out of 48 talents, so you are unlikely to miss something essential by the end. Still, it is good to do your research before committing to a build because there is no "respec" option

[primal dew]

I’ll try to figure out which one I definitely needs ! Thanks bro !!
We should definitely ask for a respec option! Many players will makes some mistakes

[last patio]

Yeah that’s what I was saying. There’s not much reason to not use the dark arts (no consequences) except if I want to stay true to the story of being a good wizard/witch. And if I do want to RP as a good witch/wizard then I miss out on the dark arts skill tree. I just feel like there should be some debuffs (curse) type traits stuff for the light side wizards/witches who want to stay away from the dark arts. Maybe even incorporating a morality system where you can only access the light arts or dark arts if you made certain choices during the story.
I’m not saying light side should have an OP instant kill to anything cursed like in the dark arts tree, but just some light side debuffs or things that would cause enemy to take more dmg or to move slower for an extended period or things like that.

[midnight oyster]

That's a good idea. Choice-locked skills? I love those in roleplaying games.

[last patio]

Yes! That’s what I’m saying!! I would love that!

[midnight oyster]

It really adds depth to your character.

[last patio]

Absolutely 💯

[rotund burrow]

My only issue with those is how they disincentivize neutral characters. It’s my biggest complaint of Knights of the Old Republic, if I wanna be a morally complex or neutral character then I’m essentially handicapping myself for the late game.

[chrome crypt]

I’m not on Xbox

[frail birch]

oh ps?

[prime loom]

max out dark arts talents and then use imperio, use crucio on a different enemy then smack them with a basic attack 6 times, use Avada Kadavra, and boom 4-7 guys dead

[midnight oyster]

Hmm. What if you tie a skill to each morally-weighted choice? Then you could pick and choose.

[lavish escarp]

I personally am not a fan of tying morality to game mechanics. I like moral choices to have storytelling consequences, like different endings, but I also like being able to choose my preferred mechanical playstyle freely without having to forego certain choices based on the kind of ending I want

[rotund burrow]

Eh the problem with that is that it can punish players for RPing a certain way. Let’s say I want to be a morally good wizard who balances with the dark arts, but the only way to get Crucio is to maliciously torture a friend? Choice based mechanics are fine, but if you’re working on a certain build and character, things can get complicated.

[prime loom]

i let Sebastian use Crucio on me, i was a villian, not a monster

[midnight oyster]

Understandable. When the skills themselves are morally weighted, though, it doesn't really make rp sense for anyone and everyone to be able to use them.

I'd definitely tie getting Crucio to something less obvious than ruining a friendship, though.

The whole deal with Crucio is that you have to be capable of wanting to hurt someone that badly, right? So maybe you have to choose between forgiving a jerk who tripped you, vs getting your own back somehow.

[rotund burrow]

The Unforgivable Curses I agree should’ve had more weight behind them. Those I can get behind as player choices.

[midnight oyster]

Yeah.

[rotund burrow]

Like, Crucio is described as the most intense pain one can feel, as it’s specified to them. But for our character they treat it like they just got tased. It hurt, but they could get back up on their feet.

[lavish escarp]

Crucio is a fair point, it's hard to think of a "morally good" way of using it. The other two are more flexible: we'd get back to the classic moral debate of "would you Avada Kedavra someone who was about to kill a lot of people if it was the only way to stop them" and the likes

[prime loom]

Crucio could be used to not kill someone but to be able to escape, incase you don't have the guts to kill or aren't strong enough to fight them

[rotund burrow]

The issue is that Crucio is a spell designed around pain. It’s specifically made to torture and nothing else.

[midnight oyster]

Use a torture spell as a freeze or bind spell? I mean, I guess....

[prime loom]

could be used for info or to punish your children idk

[midnight oyster]

Ha. My parents would definitely have used it for that, but I don't think I'd call it a "morally good" way of using it, even so.

[rotund burrow]

Again, it’s a spell where the user intentionally desires to harm their target. No rhyme reason or purpose behind it. It’s a spell that simply requires that you desire to torture and hurt another person

[lavish escarp]

Getting back to the original point: upgraded Crucio + basic attacks + Transformation is one of the most fun things you can do in the game. If it were morality-gated anybody wanting that combo would be forced to play an evil playthrough

[prime loom]

then use the bomb it transformed them into and use it on the other people

[midnight oyster]

Or at least pick a harmful retribution at one point (if Crucio were tied to that alone).

[prime loom]

we are just that good, plus Sebastio- Sebastion wanted us to feel pain?

[midnight oyster]

I guess using Crucio on your favorite masochist could be a morally good use. All the pain they want, plus no actual physical damage (if I'm remembering correctly). Not bad.

[prime loom]

it deals damage, therefore physical damage is being done

[midnight oyster]

Well, there goes that.

[prime loom]

you also lose all your health when Sebastian uses it on you

[mint willow]

Ok need names for my evil slytherin

[tidal rose]

Ominus

[mint willow]

First or last name ?

[tidal rose]

first

[mint willow]

Are you ok if I use salty as the last name

[tidal rose]

sure but i would reccomend, gaunt as the last name or one of the other famous slytherin house families

[mint willow]

Ok

Done

[dreamy turret]

Does anyone know if traits on gear stack or is it waste having same traits in gear setup?

[lavish escarp]

They stack, and it is usually best to have 6 of the same level III trait

[dreamy turret]

Nice thank you

[strong portal]

Without the ancient magic

[celest notch]

Does anyone put more than like 1 pt in the Room of Requirement tree

[lavish escarp]

Headache and Fetriliser are amazing if going for a Herbology build and good in general.
Endurus Potion Potency is a huge buff since it turns a damage reduction into invincibility.
Focus and Maxima Potion Potency are strong but I wouldn't take both, one is enough. Focus has a nice combo with Lumos where you recover more time than you lose on the potion if you spam it, letting you keep it on indefinitely.
Thunderbrew is good but I can't spare the points for it.
Invisibility Potion Potency is necessary if you use the potion at all since the base duration is only 5 seconds, but I don't use it.
Noxious... the upgrade that breaks shields isn't terrible but the plant itself is weaker than the jumping cabbages, so I wouldn't get it and would break the shields manually instead, even on a Herbology build.

Overall there's a lot of good stuff in there.

[plush bramble]

ngl, feel like diffindo mastery should've been basekit and make it do little side arcs for higher damage across the board

glacio mastery is fun

[lavish escarp]

Eh, Diffindo is strong enough as it is. I get why it has a somewhat weaker talent.

Glacio is interesting: the talent is good, but it is so useful to pair it with Diffindo as a single target ranged nuke that it always feels like you are wasting the AoE

[vagrant python]

dude those are the strongest abilities haha

[celest notch]

There’s def viable builds but they rely on you spending more time to craft those potions and get those plants, do u spend a lot of time collecting materials

[lavish escarp]

You can grow/make everything in the RoR

[celest notch]

ah okok, havent spent much time there

[celest notch]

Isnt that the Dark Arts tree?

[lavish escarp]

The two best builds are curse build and herbology build (arguably also Stealth). Both trees are great.

[vagrant python]

3 of the potions are really good and if you go for herbology traits in the armor then you can unlock all plant abilities for the strongest build in game

[celest notch]

Yeah I was thinking of a hybrid curse + stealth multikill build

[lavish escarp]

That works, you certainly have enough talent points for it

[stone hamlet]

Can someone give me a hand? Just starting out and want to get a strong “build”…. Really new not sure how it works exactly

[heady axle]

Going for a dark arts/stealth build.

[rotund burrow]

Core is general overall improvements to your spells, potions, and ancient magic recharge. Dark arts provides curses that deal extra damage. Spells grant you improved versions of your spells. Stealth improves you sneak attacks and detection skills. And Room of Requirements improves your potion buffs and plants.

I’d say all of them are good enough minus Room of Requirements, but Stealth is frankly overpowered. If you max your Stealth tree, most enemies won’t be able to detect you even if you’re right in front of them and you can one hit multiple enemies at once.

[random anchor]

I do, focus potion and the maxima potion

[woven thicket]

they stack yes, but its not actually. mathematically its best to have either 3 ambush III + 3 unforgivable III, or if you dont play with ambush: 4 unforgivable III + 2 burst spell III

[dusky sleet]

The thing about stealth build is that is a real boring build to play. I guess if you really enjoy sneaking around it could be fun for you. But just stealthing around and sneaking up to 1 shot enemies I feel is incredibly boring no matter how strong the build is.

[lavish escarp]

That is interesting. Doesn't Ambush only work when concealed by Disillusionment, making it less widely applicable than Unforgivable, while giving the same exact bonus to damage (According to PlayDohBear's testing posted on youtube)?
Also, what's burst spell? Do you mean the spell-specific trait for your go to red spell?

[woven thicket]

no, let me explain in a while

[lavish escarp]

Thank you, looking forward to it (being the curious Ravenclaw I am)

[woven thicket]

its both additive to its own buff, but they work multiplicative to each other. so:

Base Dmg x (1 + 10% x Trait level x amount of trait) x (1 + 10% x trait level x amount of trait)
with that you get 1.9x1.9 = 3.61 at 2 different buffs
but only 2.8 if you take 6 times the same trait

i agree it is less applicable, hence i offered the other way, with yes the red spell trait = burst spell.
its a lot less dmg, but more applicable:

Base Dmg x ((1+5%*trait level)^amount of trait) x (1 + 10% x trait level x amount of trait)
= [Base Dmg] x [burst spell traits] x [curse trait]
with that you get 1.15x1.15x2.2 = 2.91
which is still more than the 2.8 if you have 6x the curse trait for example
and ofc its more than 1.15^6 = 2.31 if you have 6x the same red spell trait

[final zinc]

So what spell combos are there for Transformation, Flipendo, and Arresto Momentum? Flipendo seems situational for specific counters, and Arresto seems to just for delaying enemies. Trying to orginize my spell slots into 4 different combo sets

Doing a spell master build so tryna have my spell sets center around different combos

[woven thicket]

they basically are allowing combos in the other 3 slots without wasting space for curses.
i personally like flippendo more, as it can be used effectively against trolls, which are relatively tanky: flippendo when the club is on the ground > glacio when the troll sits stunned > diffindo. that combo oneshots them basically always.
i personally only use arresto momentum for catching "saving" fantastic beasts, but it can be used for example in an accio > descendo > bombarda combo or similar (not really the best combo but funny nontheless)

transformation has way too long cd for really efficient use without switching to other sets.
i'd not use it, unless i really want to throw bombs around^^

[final zinc]

Yeah I use flipendo for trolls but wanted to see if it had other practical combos

[lavish escarp]

Huh, I didn't know they were multiplicative to each other! Now it makes sense.
However, in your experience, are you able to utilise both buffs at the same time regularly enough that that it's worth it?

[final zinc]

I use glacio for catching beasts cuz they fall down again after unfreezing so much easier to catch

[final zinc]

Wait so you're saying using different buff traits gives you more than using the same one?

Cuz that will change everything for me

[woven thicket]

yes

[mighty dagger]

hi

[final zinc]

Time to change my gear around

[woven thicket]

but only if you combine them into one big burst.

thats why i personally prefer not to go with ambush. its no applicable enough. getting hit once, or having to dodge immediately makes you visible again, so it doesnt feel good using it.
if you pass on ambush, and dont swap your sets too much, its useful to chose one main dmg spell and buff that one up as much as possible.
2-2.5 buff from glacio, 2.2 buff from 4x curse, 1.15*1.15 buff from 2 times that spell trait, 2x buff from potion (unfortunately the potion doesn't buff the unforgivable trait bonus dmg) thats quite a lot in total.
(also dont forget the 1.05 buff from having any amount of curse talent upgrades)
that multiplies up to quite a lot.

[final zinc]

I use damage buff, curse buff and then a spell buff and then a specific curse buff

Bad typo lol

[lavish escarp]

That does sound great if you focus on one damage spell like Diffindo! Losing out on Accio + Incendio damage does feel bad but I can see how it's not really necessary.
I'll try your combination - assuming I don't give in to the temptation of going full plant xD

[final zinc]

Ugh I have to find the level 3 traits for the spells. I only have level 1s 😭

[woven thicket]

how?! its the main thing i would criticize about the game, that i was finding level 3 traits before i was finding the corresponding level 1 traits^^. made it pointless to continue searching.

@lavish escarp yeah i have accio incendio on a different spell set, but its only hitting squishy targets and then wiping them anyways with one combo. no need to keep buffs for what is oneshotting in its niche anyways

[lavish escarp]

Fair. Btw, do you happen to have an opinion on Protego Mastery/Expertise and Stupefy Mastery/Expertise? I haven't seen them discussed much

[final zinc]

Ive doing bandit camps but I mostly got level 3 for spell damage, plant damage and etc. None of specific spells

If anyone know where I can find specific level 3 traits lemme know. I hope they're not rng

[lavish escarp]

They are rng. On the bright side, it means you can save scum them

(except for the monster-specific ones of course)

[woven thicket]

well, i dont think many ppl are actually trying to block attacks, except for troll boulders.
for those its obviously not good.
i personally like blocking, and then its actually quite a lot extra dmg, especially if you have the curse upgrade for stupify.
but its not really something you can play around, not all enemies cast blockable attacks + there is not really a build that helps using stupify as dmg source.

[final zinc]

Damn I done like most in upper hogwarts

[lavish escarp]

I see, thank you!

[final zinc]

Well good to know for future camps now. Kinda hurts to learn this late. I wish I some stuff wasn't rng in this game.

[primal dew]

hey. is there a "best gear" atm? googlerino just say nothing :/ looking for stats or something

[woven thicket]

you mean max offense?
i believe there is, as there is a max level and the stats depend on your level.

if you mean trait wise, mathematically the optimum would be 3x ambush III + 3x unforgivable III tho thats somewhat difficult to use.
for that reason i suggest 4x unforgivable III + 2x red spell of your choice III

if you mean spell set wise: just go crucio > avada kedavra with anything that makes you tanky.

[primal dew]

i mean baststats of gear. found 104,103 atm so i guess there must me a cap

[woven thicket]

well, im not max level (39 only^^) so i dont know yet

104 you get on something like 38 or 39 items.
40 should be a little more

[primal dew]

yeah i am 36 atm. so i should stop farm the outside world and collect legendary gear until i am lvl 40?

[woven thicket]

i think you should farm until you are lvl 40 and start collecting afterwards^^

[final zinc]

Collect legendary gear from chests once you're max level

[primal dew]

ok thanks

[civic mulch]

anyone know what a perfect protego is and how does protego expertise/mastery interact with each other

[final zinc]

Perfect protego is when you defend at the last possible moment

Protego talents will return two projectiles at once and and the other talent will break ebemy shields with a Shockwave

[woven thicket]

im not 100% sure, but i understood it like this:
if you cast protego at the moment of impact, you will return the projectile that would otherwise hit you to the target that you focus on.
with the upgrade you will instead duplicate the projectile that you return, to hit 2 enemies (not sure how it is, if there is only one enemy).

also if you time it perfectly, you can create a shockwave that knocks back nearby enemies and breaks their shields.

[gaunt herald]

hey, what spell combos have you found that work really well? one of my favourites is accio, descendo, glacius and then incendio

[final zinc]

Glacio and diffindo
Transformation and depulso
Levioso and descendo(talent upgrade)
Accio and incendio

[wispy elbow]

if you get arresto momentum curse thing you can do arresto momentum decendo glacio diffindo

does nuts damage with 6 level 3 unforgivable traits

[final zinc]

Then with trolls, I keep imperio, Flipendo, glacio and confrigo

[gaunt herald]

for trolls you could cast imperio and then just spam petrificus totalus if its only one troll

[final zinc]

I don't use stealth

[wispy elbow]

i also love spamming transformation and tossing barrels at enemies

[gaunt herald]

well you dont have to use stealth if you do imperio it counts as if the enemy cant see you so you can just do petrificus totalus

[wispy elbow]

imo kinda makes the game less fun cause i like the challenge of fighting a troll, i have avada kedavra and i never really use it unless its on the challenge wave things

[gaunt herald]

true but if you need to kill them quick you can just do that

[final zinc]

Same, having been playing Elden ring for the past year I'm all for the battle lol

[wispy elbow]

by my playstyle you would guess i play elden ring because i almost never use protego

got into a habit of just rolling, especially with the swift talent

[final zinc]

SAME I keep dodging by reflex when I should be using protego. I have have talent points in it 😂

[final zinc]

I'll definitely try it out once I get scorching 3 trait

[wispy elbow]

i havent put anything into protego at all, i just roll and dance around the battle field like a little rat

[prime loom]

Perfectly blocking an attack, like blocking last second. I wait a second before using it to get it perfect

[lethal berry]

Crucio with the talent for it that allows you to curse others by hitting the person you hit the curse with, and than use the transformation spell and throw the person that is transformed, everybody dies, you feel very powerful and it's very fun to pull off. It's similar to if you just use avada kadavra when everyone is cursed too, but with a little more flair.

[civic mulch]

ty for the replies about the perfect protego everyone!!!

[random anchor]

Which offers higher dmg bonus, spells under curse effect with 6x unforgivable 3 or 6x spell specific trait r3?

[final zinc]

I think 6x unforgivable

[ruby brook]

im worried about spending talent points and wasting them when i have learned unforgivable curses yet...how stingy do i really need to be to have a correct "build" ?

[random anchor]

What level are you?

[ruby brook]

15

[random anchor]

What kinda buidl you looking for? And what did you get so far? Talents

[final zinc]

You don't have to be a correct build

Some spells you will use more than others so not every talent will benefit you. For example, I barely use flipendo so I don't benefit from the talent for it

If you're not gonna use stealth there's no point in using talents for that

[ruby brook]

i wanted to have some sort of unforgivable curses build, and i see there is a skill tree for it. ive only used 1 point for faster spell cooldown from the "basic" attack because im assuming thats just always amazing lol, and then i think i used 1 more just to dash

thinking probably have the extra spell set is also useful...1 for combat 1 for exploring

[final zinc]

The strongest part of unforgiveables is that you can affect other enemies

[random anchor]

Dark arts tree:
Enduring curse, imperio mastery, crucio mastery, ak mastery, curse dapper, stunning curse, blood curse and whatever spell you prefer to use in the dark arts tree

After maybe do some points in cores, get all 4 spell slots etc it’s up to you, that’s all you really need the other just makes thing even easier for you

[final zinc]

And ultimately go for a Avada Kedavra multi kill.

The main skills that help skill wise are the talents that effect multiple enemies

Like the talents that make descendo and Accio aoe. It helps clear waves

[random anchor]

Try to farm unforgivable 3 trait and get them on all your gear

[ruby brook]

i have not gotten to the point where my gear has actual traits lol

[final zinc]

When you do get there, make sure to save scum at bandit camps since traits are rng

[ruby brook]

but i was trying to look in the tree on how to actually get the curse on to multiple enemies to them multi-avada

i see in tree there is for like accio and what not to multi affect near enemies

[ruby brook]

bandit camps are limited i presume?

[final zinc]

Blood curse is the talent you want. Your regular attack will curse enemies

[random anchor]

Easiest way is to get crucio mastery, then cast crucio on one of them, when you hit the one with crucio inflicted it spreads the cursed effect to other enemies
Imperio controlled enemies will inflict curse on other enemies too

[final zinc]

Yes. There will be a chest at all of them that will contain a trait. It is rng so if you do them to quickly and early you can miss out on some traits. However, I noticed you don't get repeat traits so you may be able to get them all

[ruby brook]

hmmm i think i maybe did one of those camps already before having traits available....

for traits on your gear, as you dismantle old gear for new gear, you can re-use the traits from the camps you unlock?

[random anchor]

Nah, blood curse only damages all cursed enemies when you attack a cursed enemy, not curse them, at least that’s what it wrote
if you wanna spread curse you need to get crucio mastery

[final zinc]

Once you have a trait you can use it for gear. You don't need copies of it

[final zinc]

You right I misread it

[random anchor]

You still get them, you just can’t apply them yet
If you don’t mind a little exploit you can just save/load till it rolls the trait you want

Save before you open a chest, then load the save and open again until it gives you the trait you want

[final zinc]

Once you have a trait you can apply it to all gear.

I had to reload saves to get the ones I wanted. It can take awhile too. I had to use a mix of gathering traits I didn't want since you don't reroll them

So if you get Scorching trait level 1, you won't pull it again.

[ruby brook]

sounds good, and the traits i want to be looking for is "unforgivable 3" ? (or 1, 2 and 3)?

[random anchor]

3

[final zinc]

Just 3

[random anchor]

You will also need legendary gear pieces to put the level 3 traits on, but they aren’t hard to farm, just look up a video on YouTube for those ornate looking chests
Ideally you should get a set for lv25/ lv 34/ 40

[final zinc]

Also apparently you also get huge buffs from mixing traits too. Someone did the math earlier

So like 3 unforgiveables III and then Cruelty 3, Manipulation 3, and then Concentration 3

[ruby brook]

so...also dumb question but ive just been dismantling gear and just blindly using the next best thing i pick up with a higher green arrow....is this not correct / can you actually keep "upgrading" a single piece of gear?

[random anchor]

You can only upgrade it 3 times, and yes you can just use whatever you find stronger for your early levels, but do start getting sets of legendary gear after like level 20+, you need those for r3 traits
If money isn’t an issue you can buy new legendary pieces from shop too

[final zinc]

You can upgrade gear but you mainly wanna upgrade legendary. Also sell your gear instead of destroying. Best way to get money for awhile. Gonna need 3k gold for an assignment

[ruby brook]

ok thank you guys for all the help btw...i think my final question for now is it possible to store gear / expand inventory amount for gear?

(Like should i be trying to save pieces of legendary gear?)

[final zinc]

You expand inventory by doing merlin trials

[ruby brook]

thank you!

[final zinc]

You can't store gear but whenever you have too much SELL IT.

[bright violet]

I feel like a vault/chest in your dorms would be beneficial.

To store different sets of gear with various traits.

[rapid minnow]

hi guys any good dark wizard builds? currently unlocked all spells

[mossy gorge]

unlock everything in dart arts and the spells you use the most under "spells" talent. In core, everything related to protego, stupify, extra sets, wiggenweld potion, and ancient magic throw. And in room of requirement, edurus potion. For stealth, leave petrificus totalus mastery and get the rest. This is what i prefer

[lavish escarp]

Question.

• Focus Potion Potency
• Ancient Magic Throw Expertise
• Imperio Mastery
• Stupefy Expertise
• Stupefy Mastery
• Wiggenweld Potency II
• Protego Expertise

I need to cut two of these from my final build. Which two would you cut?

Rest of the build is an all-rounder, taking the most important talents for Stealth, Herbology, and Dark Arts

[gleaming obsidian]

imo cut wiggenweld potency and focus potency, coming from someone that doesnt use potions that much lol

[lavish escarp]

That makes sense. I do have Maxima Potion Potency already, and I probably don't want both. What makes me like Focus is that it seems good when going for a Herbology/Dark Arts build with all Herbology traits: I'll just accept that my spell damage will be low and focus on using plants + insta-kills (Avada Kedavra and Transformation). Focus helps more than Maxima with the latter

Wiggenwald II I just don't know if it's necessary at level 40 when you have 4k hp. Do we know how much does base Wiggenwald heal?

[rapid minnow]

ty

[heady axle]

I'll go for a dark build/stealth and some herbology. For potions.

I'll need to pick my stuff wisely for my gamestyle

[safe roost]

Do traits stack? So for example having diffindo 3 on all 6 peices of gear. Or does it need to be diffindo 1-2-3 on 3 items then choose 3 different traits for other gear

[lavish escarp]

They do stack

[heady axle]

Did'nt know interesting

[static sinew]

Where can you find the Unforgivable III trait? I'm looking for it so I can get a build.

[heady axle]

What does it gives?

[static sinew]

Stronger unforgivable curses I believe

[fickle gulch]

from what i know, i think u just have to go to bandit camps and clear em out, chests should give random new trait

[plush bramble]

imperio mastery and focus potion potency

[lavish escarp]

Thanks! Why Focus Potion?

[plush bramble]

i'll be frank, i haven't used a single potion besides wiggenweld potion in this game except to do the assignments for the spells

you can pretty much play without the potions to full effect
takes some time to kill your way through enemies, but otherwise it works imo

[idle spire]

If you save your game before you open the chest from the bandit camp and you get a trait you're not going for, you can just reload and essentially reroll the chest for a different trait

[lavish escarp]

Well, I like to optimise my builds, so I want to find the one that gives me the best results not just what gets me through the game xD

[plush bramble]

imo

the best builds tend to be ones that deliberately make you play a certain way to test your mettle
i was disappointed to know you can't really use charms in gameplay besides the force and transfiguration spells

i wanted to do a charms only run, but kind of hard to do considering spell shields + ancient magic throw being a core gameplay mechanic

hope they add more options in the future

[heady axle]

I see, kinda useless with Avada Kedavra but for rest can be

Didn't put any points in my talent tree yet. Kinda want to know which will be my main focuses spell before doing so. Going for a stealth/dark magic and potions build

Wanna do my own build... always do mines. Even find the best build in a game long time ago.

[plush bramble]

favorite thing of mine rn is using transfiguration + wingardium

transfigure then levitating object off cliff to get instakill, kinda funny at times

[woeful adder]

Unlike what the name says, unforgivable III makes you do more dmg to cursed targets (green X on the target). To apply the curse debuff, you can either use crucio, or simply slot in sme talent from DA tree that makes your normal spells apply curse.

You could technically not learn any unforgivable curse and still run that build regardless.

It's very strong because the curse debuff affects all damage (red spells, blue spells, ancient magic, plants, etc) and its massive +194% dmg bonus to everything is stronger than every other buff given by other traits

[lavish escarp]

Plants are not affected by Unforgivable according to blahable's data posted on reddit

[lone drum]

i need one that has 8 spells including 3 unforgivable anyone has one?

[flat crystal]

Are there good builds out there that avoid the use of dark arts all together?

[heady axle]

Cool! Nice to know 🙂 still looking forward for my own build. It's cool having some info. Would like to do my own test but I do not want to make 10 characters since you can't change ur build.

[mossy gorge]

you mean set arrangement?

[lone drum]

ye diffindo confrigo accio glacius arresto mommentum depulso bombarda and smh else i dont remember

[flat crystal]

Wonderful! Thank you so much ❤️
Will screenshot that to remember XD

[lone drum]

i mean spells

[dreamy radish]

Using plants are quite fun. Stun everyone with mandrake and follow by a few cabbages. Who needs AK spell when your cabbage does 2.5k damage a bite! 😆

[woven thicket]

at 39 its healing to max (the II one)

[fallow reef]

Try using accio, decsendo, glacius, then incendio, it does a ton of damage (for a long range version, replace accio with leviso and incendio with diffindo)

Also plants are broken

[lavish escarp]

Yeah, I saw that the first upgrade adds 990 hp of healing and the second adds 2300. I'm just missing the numerical value for the base potion (without upgrades) to determine whether I need just one or both upgrades at max level

[balmy storm]

There are a lot of builds can be made depends on your gameplay. For example in my case, one of my build is glacius, incendio, Confringo and Acio. So I use Acio to pull enemies, freeze them with Glacius and hit with Incendio. Damage after glacius gives Critical hit, I mostly hit 3k damage with Incendio after Glacius. I also replace Confringo with Expelliarmus for range attack when I need to fight enemies that I need to disarm like Pensive in trial.

[lavish escarp]

Accio > Glacio > Incendio is probably my favourite combo in the game, even better if you add Descendo after Accio. I know there are stronger combinations with Dark Arts but this one just feels fun

[mossy gorge]

accio -> incendio
glacius -> diffindo
aresto momentum -> descendo
flipendo -> depulso
transformation -> confringo/bombarda or ancient magic throw
best way to finish the fight without much effort or combo. Given that you have unlocked the mastery as well, then these will be kill the enemy instantly (apart from the big ones)

[balmy storm]

Yes I feel like Dark Arts is good to make "Assassin" build that also utilizing stealth talent.

[hard ore]

Leviosa -> Accio -> incendio -> glacius -> diffindo -> bombarda I like to do

[woven thicket]

if you dont mind dark art talents, you can upgrade flippendo/expelliarmus/arresto momento to get the curse debuff without using dark art abilities.
and then you can add them in your sets to deal much more dmg.

[loud patrol]

same but descendo after accio

[heady axle]

I am here still looking forward for my own build ahah

[plush bramble]

it's very good on the thornbacks + ashwinders

expelliarmus + flipendo curse is pretty powerful

[final zinc]

Which is stronger? 6x Concentration III or 6x Unforgiveables III

I know Concentration is additive while unforgiveables is muktiplicative

[woeful adder]

it's the other way around, but the numbers on unforgivable are much bigger

conc. III x 6 = 1.15^6 = 1.677 multiplier (+67.7% dmg)
unf. III x 6 = 1 + 0.3*6 = 2.8 multiplier (+180% dmg)

[plucky locust]

hey what are builds?

[heady axle]

Skills tree talents 🙂

[plucky locust]

still confused

[woeful adder]

you can only have 36 out of the available 48 talents, so few different talent distributions are available depending on what you want to focus on

[final zinc]

Hm was hoping concentration was just as good but unforgiveables it is. Thanks!

[woeful adder]

as long as the enemy is cursed (has the green X on it), unforgivable is >>> everything, but conc is a good allrounder if you don't want to play around curse debuff

[celest notch]

maybe good, but i dont think there are better builds than dark arts

the unforgivables are just way too good to pass on

[dusky sleet]

If you don't mind stealth gameplay, you can just stealth around and 1 shot everything, it's pretty boring tho

[woeful adder]

the game can be cleared easily even with a gimped build, so if you don't want to play around curses or DA at all, you can just use conc x6 or go down the plant route with cabbage/herbology. An alternative is stealthy gameplay, or if you enjoy ancient magic, you can stack ancient magic focus x6 and quickly build up your blue bar to 1shot things

[flat crystal]

@woeful adder Thank you so much! The plant build doesn't require too many talents so I think I may just focus on core skills and stuff and a couple plant ones!

[stiff crescent]

plants need to be nerfed and likely will be

Especially Herbology traits, its just stupidly OP

[lavish escarp]

Hopefully not, but I'll try to finish the game before it happens

[heady axle]

Max points for a build is what again?

Oh I see 36

[heady axle]

What's the most effective potions. I mean the best ones. I was going for Edurus, Maxima and Focus. Also as for plant I was going for Mandrake and Cabbage

[red shale]

Any ideas for a dark herbologist build?

[final zinc]

Probably fully invest in dark arts and then invest in plants so the plants do extra damage to cursed enemies. And then use Unforgiveables III 6x

[red shale]

Dumb question, but do you need one unforgivable 3 or do you need one for each slot?

I currently have one unforgivable 3 and one cruelty 3

[primal dew]

I believe once you have it in the collection it can be used various times on your equipment required you have the necessary resources.

[red shale]

Aight. Thanks guys. My character is gonna feed her enemies to her cabbages.

[final zinc]

Reaching lvl 40 is a mission. I'm trying to max out before finishing thr story.

[mystic patio]

I was level 34 when I ended the story

[final zinc]

I'm level 34 now and the next mission is to find the 3rd trial

[fallow reef]

I was 39 at the end

30*

[final zinc]

I completed most combat challenges so exp from combat isn't viable

Just been doing collectibles to build up my levels. Seems to be the best way for now. Battle arenas only 35 exp per wave 😭

[cursive flicker]

Someone was going on about transfiguration plus dependo being an instakill, but I cursed with Crucio and they were still alive.

[final zinc]

Who did you use transformation on?

[cursive flicker]

Random scouts. It’s not an instakill if it’s enemy specific.

[final zinc]

It works on small enemies

[south sapphire]

Trying to figure out my build
I have Expelliarmus, Incedio, levioso and accio

[final zinc]

Wait did you upgrade transformation?

[final zinc]

Just use Expecto Patronum

[south sapphire]

Not in the game 🤣

[final zinc]

Do you plan to use Unforgiveables?

[south sapphire]

I feel like that goes against everything I stand for 😂

[final zinc]

Lol either way for the best damage you'll want to either incorporate unforgiveables and then use Unforgiveables III traits or go all in on the trait for Ancient magic damage

If you max out ancient magic damage you will one shot nearly all enemies, even trolls, with the special attack

[primal dew]

Is dark arts the strongest build? (except for cabbages lol)

[final zinc]

Pretty much. It has the biggest boost to damage

And if you go for the Avada Kedavra combo you can one shot multiple enemies in one move

[south sapphire]

I haven't even unlocked unforgivables yet, but they do get locked in when you do the dark arts battle arenas

I think my wand might protest doing curses 😂

Fawkes didn't donate the feather to be used for evil

Ancient magic it is then

[balmy storm]

cabbage farmer is stronger than being a wizard

[formal cape]

would it be better to build for a specific plant trait or can you use the herbology trait and get the same damage?

[south sapphire]

You're screwed if your whole build relies on potions and plants

[rotund burrow]

Any of the Room of Requirement talents will work just fine. Though you should take the time to stock up on plants and potions before attempting it.

[vagrant elk]

Apparently the cabbage strat is OP

[vernal bay]

My 12 talent points i wouldnt invest in:

Stealth:
all 4 since i dont play stealthy.. u can play stealthy enough imo with disillusionment..

Room of req:
Obviously for my playstyle i wouldt take the invisibility potion potency..

Core:
I wouldnt take the 3 skillset slots
And i wouldnt take revelio mastery..
I collected already many field pages before i even unlocked the talent points so that is a waste for me now… also the basic revelio is decent…

Spells:
I wouldnt take descendo and depulso mastery since it doesnt curse the enemy and not really gathering the enemies togheter i wont really use those skills
(I much rather take Accio so they near me and use a incendio/confringo/ bombarda combo)

Diffindi mastery i would also skip..
Purely cuz the enemies have to be in a decent line and that doesnt happen too often..
So i think its pretty worthless

I am a lvl 39 i dont buy the skill slots.. i think its a waste the slot itself doesnt have a cooldown so i can easily swap in fights if needed..
It all depends on playstyle.. but this is my advice for a build

[novel mirage]

https://eip.gg/hogwarts-legacy/talent-planner/?build=xaAhkmgltOnfpijcwbEeRLMNQqFdHGPDJvIT
This is what I'm using, the order is non-applicable. Very fun, and I get the best of everything without messing with consumables.

[vernal bay]

U will lose a lot of dps by not using consumables

[novel mirage]

I can still use them, but the bonuses are moot when I chain all my spells and aoe avada. Also I find using the menu for consumables tends to slow gameplay down. It would be awesome to have them on separate keybinds.

[solid idol]

just beat the game

[lyric violet]

Same here, just gonna go and finish all the collections, etc.

[primal dew]

Wdym how many talent points can you Asign?

[rose scaffold]

There are 36 earnable talent points and 48 talents. What's the best spell trait setup? Rn I'm running 2 concentration 3s an u forgivable 3 an ancient magic focus 3 and an ancient magic 3 and then a random explosive 3 to give bombarda an extra boost since I don't really have anything to combo with it.

[tough basin]

You can’t unlock all the talents ?

[rose scaffold]

Sadly no. Not unless you cheat.

[lavish escarp]

Unforgivable III x3 + Ambush III x3 gives you the highest bonus but is difficult to use consistently.
Unforgivable III x6 gives you a very high bonus (+180%) that's easy to use almost all the time.
Unforgivable III x4 + red spell specific trait (for example Laceration III) x2 gives you a slightly higher bonus (around +190%) but part of it only works on one spell.
Herbology III x6 is amazing for the plants build.

[rose scaffold]

I see. I should probably use unforgivable more then. Does anyone know the numbers on concentration? Beccause I thought concentration also affected your basic cast.

[lavish escarp]

Concentration III gives +9% and stacks multiplicatively.
Concentration III x6 therefore gives around +68%

[rose scaffold]

Thanks. I really wish there were ways to craft extra trait slots into your gear, at high cost of course.

[lavish escarp]

Eh, they are already so powerful you get to 1-2 shot most stuff at high level with the right build. Not sure we need more power.
But yes, it's a shame that most traits see no use because some are so good. This could be solved by stopping the same trait from stacking

[rose scaffold]

One thing I wish is that there were more spell combinations. Like glacias and difindo.

[burnt rapids]

anyone have full build for max dps ?

[lavish escarp]

Herbology III x6, take all the plant talents from the RoR tree, spam cabbages

[burnt rapids]

i want for all talents not only that

[rose scaffold]

After that it's curses. In the dark arts tree I'm pretty sure.

[lavish escarp]

That's all you need for "max dps". There is no absolute "best" detailed talent distribution.
If you want a good approximation of the best build you should also take the important stuff from Core and Dark Arts and use the Dark Arts curse combos

[burnt rapids]

i ask that because i wont be able to change talents so i want opinions

[lavish escarp]

And you got them, but you'll have to choose some things yourself because the "best" distribution hasn't been solved yet.
I can give you my build, but I can't guarantee it's the absolute best possible

[burnt rapids]

yea sure send me

[lavish escarp]

Here's my build. The order is only an approximation because it will depend on when you unlock certain things (for example, you don't want Transformation Mastery until you unlock the Transformation spell).

Spell Knowledge I
Spell Knowledge II
Swift
Human Demiguise
Sense of Secrecy
Basic Cast Mastery
Wiggenweld Potency I
Glacius Mastery
Disarming Curse
Blood Curse
Stunning Curse
Crucio Mastery
Incendio Mastery
Diffindo Mastery
Protego Absorption
Accio Mastery
Transformation Mastery
Petrificus Totalus Mastery
Curse Sapper
Spell Knowledge III
Ancient Magic Throw Expertise
Fertiliser
Endurus Potion Potency
Headache
Sense of Secrecy II
Evasion Absorption
Avada Kedavra Mastery
Wiggenweld Potency II
Descendo Mastery
Protego Mastery
Noxious
Bombarda Mastery
Focus Potion Potency
Maxima Potion Potency
Stupefy Expertise
Protego Expertise

I'm considering swapping Curse Sapper for Stupefy Mastery but am not sure yet

This build is meant to be used with either Herbology III x6 (preferred) or Unforgivable III x6, and gives you a good mix of plants, dark arts, stealth, and regular spells, thus letting you use everything that's strong in the game

[plush bramble]

anyone using kbm for spellcasting?

[balmy storm]

I do

I play HL on my laptop lol

[plush bramble]

how do you have your spell order set up for your binds? kind of hard every now and then to cast consistent spells

[rose scaffold]

I do as well and I use a mmo mouse with the buttons on the side. It helps tremendously! Though I know that's not ways an option financially for people. It does help a lot though.

[balmy storm]

Yes using the default setup for kbm is a disaster. I use the mouse for things that need a quick response like protego and dodge, so Rm is a basic attack, Lm protego, and scroll up a mouse for dodge, and scroll down changing spell. The downside for this, that you can't use talent where you can teleport when dodging because you need to hold the button. Another way you could use Rm for dodge and scroll up for protego. But I personally find it more intuitive to scroll up to dodge and also I don't really like the fast teleporting when dodging, kinda triggers my vertigo sometimes lol. As for other spells, I still use basic numeric 1 to 4. With this setting, I was able to complete the battle arena with no heal, no items and dark magic. But again, it also depends on what you are comfortable with, I think it is better to try a different setup and see which suits the most.

[stark niche]

is protego mastery any good?

[rose scaffold]

I say yes since it breaks all shields when perfectly times. Unless it always does that.

[civic tundra]

I only changed the Y to C buttons to cast ancient throw and from caps lock to middle mouse press to lock targets and had no problems with the default layout otherwise. I have 1 spell set for different occasions, and on a rare case when I need something from the spell list which is not there already in 1 of the sets, I can just switch it in temporally. Since the combat is not actually complex/challenging, you do not actually need more than 1 spell set for combat. Sure more sets provide more options, but it felt more convenient to just have dedicated ones and just scroll to the correct one for the occasion. That said.. the ability to use 1-8 for a spell set without switching would be more convenient for sure. I hope they add more, actually challenging content, so then I can think about how to use a 2nd spell set for combat too 🙂

[sullen ledge]

I changed throw to E and Ancient magic to MMB, and M4/M5 to swap sets.

[cerulean locust]

which spells should I use if I wanna go a full stealth build for my 2nd playthrough?

[vagrant python]

??

[lavish escarp]

?

[primal dew]

honestly just invisible one and max it out on the talents tree pretty broken honestly i use it most of the time

[cerulean locust]

I dont just wanna go around using petrificus totalus all the time.. I wanna start with it on 1-2 enemies and then wanna use spells

[primal dew]

oh erm then im not sure pt is the only move which only works with stealth... u could use any spell set otherwise because once enemies see you have to go qujite far out to unaggro them

[cerulean locust]

well I can use some spells and then use invis potion to go back into stealth, so Im looking for those kind of spells to control/aoe damage or something enemies in between stealths

[primal dew]

i seeeeee

[wispy parcel]

Is there any site with the S-tier and other list of all builds which we can made in the game? Please can you share ? What sie the strongest build and what is the best build? Can you share or explain in very details how to make the strongest build like a dark magic wizard with Avada Kevadra ? :/ Cannot find anything about builds

[wispy parcel]

Hi, please can you share the link or can you send me all skills for the best dark magic and most common/powerfull build with Crucio/Avada Kevadra, and the others skills to be able to create that build?

[alpine parcel]

honestly i just need some help with spell sets, im not good with that stuff

[next vessel]

Crucio > Arresto Momentum > Confringo > Diffindo >
Accio > Incendio > bombarda > Descendo
Glacius > Confringo > Expelliarmus > Impirus
Etc. just make combos that make sense

[heady axle]

Acio > Glacius > Confringo > Descendo

[weary flicker]

Hi. Anyone know if buying a level 5 talent improves a buff if the buff already has the level 16 (or 22) buff applied? I saved talents for higher level spell talents as I wasn’t sure talents stacked.

[lavish escarp]

Do you mean like the Wiggenweld potion improvement, that can be upgraded twice?

[primal dew]

If building to be the most combat effective, is dark arts basically a must have? (no I refuse to build meme cabbages)

[heady axle]

Why is it a meme? I do use it. Kinda fun and different.

[primal dew]

I'm here to be a witch not a farmer 😅

[heady axle]

I ain't a farmer 🤣

My build is dark arts/stealth.

[lavish escarp]

Using Dark Arts will definitely make you more effective than not using them. But we both know nothing compares to the infinite might of cabbages.

[livid mulch]

Best build is full herb/pot with gear talents being herb and plant buffs. Stealth in drop plants and win 🙂

[final zinc]

Yeah full dark arts talent tree with Unforgiveables III trait on all gears. It boosts all damage on cursed targets and you can Avada Kedavra multiple enemies with then proper set up.

Large groups = Cabbage Farmer build
Small groups = Dark Arts build
1v1 = Ancient Magic build

[weary flicker]

Yes, those sorts of upgrades. I used talents on higher level improvements and have a couple left on level 5. Is it worth it now to use a talent on level 5 upgrades in addition to the higher levels?

[lavish escarp]

The order you take them doesn't matter. The first Wiggenweld Potency talent you take always increases healing by 990 hp, and the second always increases it by 2300 hp.

[primal dew]

My Build so far.

Spell Knowledge I-III, Wiggendweld Potion I—II, Swift, Protego Absorption, Basic Cast Mastery, Protego Mastery, Stupefy Mastery,

Diffindo Mastery, Confringo Mastery, Bombarda Mastery

Then 10/10 Dark Arts, and 4/4 Stealth.

First page of diamonds is Diffindo, Confringo, Bombarda, and Avada Kedavra

Second page of diamonds is Glacius, Levioso, Flipendo, Depulso

Third and final cursing page is Arresto Momentum, Expelliarmus, Crucio, Imperio

[weary flicker]

Ah, so they will add up regardless. Thank you! It wasn't clear to me since I was able to use talents on the higher levels without having chosen the level 5.

[final zinc]

The levels are just prerequisites.

[weary flicker]

I understand now. I appreciate your assistance.

[glacial marsh]

There are builds? Is this COD?

[scarlet dragon]

more like the old republic with sucky lightsabers 😄

[static sinew]

Hi guys , I'm just gonna see what y'all are chatting abt (I'm definitely not noting builds from others and especially the dark arts ones)

[merry lance]

why does this game need build lol just use a bunch of focus potions and use gear with spell enhancments and spam AK

[static sinew]

Also why are #builds in spoilers ?

Y'all , any good ideas for a crucio build?

I got 3 cruelty III traits on my gears and crucio deals a whopping 148 damage every few seconds

[final zinc]

Get the talent for Crucio to curse surrounding enemies

[static sinew]

I have every single talent related to crucio

[primal dew]

Has anyone played both with and without the dark arts spells/talents? Did you find one more fun than the other or have a preference?

[final zinc]

And using Unforgiveable III would deal better damage cuz every other attack will be boosted when you hit that cursed enemy

[static sinew]

No, and I'm not gonna ever quit dark arts. I'm not an insane person but the dark arts are just fun to use and scream "easy battles" into your ears

[scarlet dragon]

its all going to be somewhat moot till they stop cabbages doing 2k a hit

[final zinc]

The main difference I felt is that I didn't do as much damage without dark arts and the talents

[static sinew]

I know, but I can't find unforgivable III, what should I do? I only find unforgivable II and cruelty I, II, and III

I raid every single bandit camp I see by the way (I would go insane if Revelio didn't exist)

[final zinc]

Keep raising bandit camps and you can save scum til you get that specific trait. I also thing once you get a trait from a bandit camp you won't pull it again. At least in my experience. So if you keep doing bandit camps you'll eventually get it

[static sinew]

Thanks. I think the bandit camp supply is getting lower and lower as I keep destroying every one with Crucio and Avada Kedavra ...

[final zinc]

It's best to do the save scum just in case you don't ever pull it. You will have to reload the Manual save right before opening the chest

I had to reload my save dozens of times to get the traits I wanted. It's annoying but it pays off

[static sinew]

Also I did try the "manual save reroll" trick and it does not work. When you try to open it, the chest just opens and reveals..... nothing

[vagrant elk]

Noice

[final zinc]

You have to save before you open the chest

[primal dew]

Is there best gear in Hogwarts Legacy for Dark Wizard?

[final zinc]

All of the gear is RNG, so the chests with two big handles should be opened til later when you're in the late 30s or max level unless you don't mind buying gear

[final zinc]

For traits you want Unforgiveables III on all pieces of gear.

[flat crystal]

What does more damage? Glacius Diffindo? Or Glacius Incendio?

[primal dew]

I wasted talent points on stealth tree. Feels bad man.

[ruby brook]

i assume you cant reset skill tree at all?

[slim obsidian]

not without mods

[sleek whale]

I got the unforgivable 3 on everything lol

[lethal marsh]

Is there anything like a wiki where you can see all possible stats and theory craft some builds?

[primal dew]

It’s hard to tell what the best build is.

[final zinc]

Both do great damage. The combos hurt certain enemies more. Wizard enemies take near instakill damage from glacio diffindo

[solid idol]

i just finished all of em in 3hrs

[heady axle]

It's not wasted 🙂

[primal dew]

I need to figure out what I’m going to do with the rest of my 9 talent points and I’m really confused.

[heady axle]

I am making my own build, full stealth some in room of requirement. 4 points for my core spells and rest full dark arts

[primal dew]

https://eip.gg/hogwarts-legacy/talent-planner/?build=eLMUEIvhnOfiKJNpwVjDzRPcGmg

That’s what I have so far.

[heady axle]

Not bad

[primal dew]

Trying to figure out where to put my last 9 talents.

[heady axle]

My fav combo is acio, glacius and diffindo so far

They will be more core

[primal dew]

Nice. Still considering.

[heady axle]

Just go with ur playstyle 🙂

[lyric violet]

Try Accio~Decendo-Depulso 💫

[heady axle]

Hmmm two purple, ain't sure about that xD

[tacit drift]

Any guides for an all around build ? I like to switch up styles

[lyric violet]

Three, but depending on where your at it can do crazy damage so I see why you'd be hesitant. Because it's too situational

[heady axle]

True 🙂

[rocky heart]

Crusio, imperio, expelliarmus when you have 3 targets cursed use Avada Kadavar on the non cursed enemy and they all all die

[lyric violet]

Though I will say when you do get it off it's 1000+ damage

[heady axle]

I do use cabbage it's 2k+ dmg already

[rocky heart]

If I don’t use that combo I’ll drop 2 tentaculares and use confringo bombarda then glacius then deffendo

[vagrant shadow]

tbh just use the max thing potion and dont even worry about shields lol

[heady axle]

Ye lol

[vagrant shadow]

then all slots use either curses or damage

[rocky heart]

I like cursing them because at that point shields don’t matter

[vagrant shadow]

ye (I hate how you cant send more than 2 messages per minute)

[balmy storm]

I do, it is easier to play with dark arts, because of Imperio. For example, clearing the battle arena with dark magic is way easier because you just cast Imperio and make other enemies busy with your new puppet. While it is definitely easier with dark magic, I find it is less fun, I tried clearing battle arena with and without dark magic and without dark magic is more challenging and fun.

[young ice]

Does anyone know if the dark arts talent “Enduring Curse” effects the amount of time an enemy is in curse status, or does it only effect how long Crucio and Imperio last?

[broken sierra]

I always assumed it was time an enemy is in curse status

[wintry needle]

Try, flipendo, depulso, glacius, diffindo.
Flipendo had to be upgraded for the curse bonus

[rose scaffold]

Why depulso and not descendo?

[wintry needle]

Sorry. Meant descundo

[balmy lake]

Just avada kedavra everything in sight

[rose scaffold]

That only works if you can spread curse around and not kill everything in 1 or 2 basic casts. Or just use flipendo and aresto cause late game it's actually difficult to killing curse chain.

[rocky heart]

It’s pretty easy actually start with crusio then hit the next target with imperio, you should be needing to dodge so right after hit the next target with expelliarmus then hit the other with Avada Kadavra

My deffendo is OP it does around 2k damage

[rose scaffold]

Expelliarmus usually kills for me. I think.

[woeful adder]

At higher lvl, a cursed target will take 9k from glacius/diffindo and 20k from anc. mag. That's how stupidly strong unf. Curse is (on hard difficulty, dmg will be half, but it's still high)

[versed violet]

if you glacius an enemy on air, this one will fall down or remain on air?

[formal badger]

Best spell combo I've found for goblins is crucio > confringo > levioso > descendo kills them instantly in my experience but I do have some of the skills for the spells so that may be helping the damage numbers a bit.

[vagrant python]

yeah but you also don't need it tbh

[heady axle]

Ye but I do play stealth mainly. They're my 3 core. If I add a page for spells I am wondering if I can use stealth then switch between bars without removing the effects? Don't want to waste a point tho.

[chrome crypt]

You don’t lose stealth if you switch spell slots. I toggle between all four pages while remaining stealth

[heady axle]

Alright, I am making my own build so maybe I'll add a point there.

[blissful anchor]

Final Build:

Expelliarmus, Imperio, Crucio, Avada Kedavra

Defense+++ against dark wizards

Defense+++ against goblins

Imperio units dealing more DMG+++

Damage+++ against cursed units

Plants dealing more DMG+++

Bombarda dealing more DMG++

[heady axle]

Why thoses spells? Tried Flipendo, descendo, glacius and then diffindo.

I mean there no green shield and with curse you can't break throught colored shields right?

[blissful anchor]

Might change bombarda ++ to Defense+++ against spiders

[blissful anchor]

Unforgivables will break every shild, they can’t be blocked, Crucio , Imperio and Expelliarmus will spread the curse effect and AK kills every unit with a curse effect on it

[heady axle]

Oh really? I thought they can be blocked if they had colored shields

[chrome crypt]

This is a well rounded spread, nice!

I have a similar but Confringo instead of Plants. And instead of Def I have AM Throw and Increase AM Fill

[blissful anchor]

I was thinking about going for AM, but all I need is spreading the curse effect and a bit tankyness until AK has recharged.

[heady axle]

Your build looks what I was looking for as for spells

But rest would be stealth, plants and potions. Since I am going dark arts, stealth

[hasty harness]

depulso-incendio-glacius-flipendo

[opal vigil]

I have every spell in the game rn what should my spell layout look like?

[unkempt marten]

My favorite opener is transfiguration into explosive, then immediately throw that into another. Two or more die outright. 😬

[orchid grail]

it's broken

[unkempt marten]

As in OP?

[forest onyx]

does anyone know the highest gear stat? is it 109?

[unkempt marten]

109 is highest I've found on a piece of lvl 38 gear

[forest onyx]

and my overall favorite build is still gonna be the hidden chinese cabbage play

i'm lvl 40, and i'm just trying to max out my build. I have 3 pieces of 109 but nothing higher

[mossy gorge]

i have 110s

[orchid grail]

OP, yes... I like that combo, I use Transfiguration - Expelliarmos - Crucio - Imperio or the 3 unforgivable curses . Chinese cabbage all the way

[forest onyx]

cabbage build is best build

ryan you have 110s? everything seems to run in 3s I don't know how i haven't run across a 110 yet

[orchid grail]

I like to having fun with Bombarda - Accio - Diffindo - Glacius... too.

[forest onyx]

if you really want to slay out i think the best combo is cruccio highest hp enemy -> 4-5 auto attacks -> avada kedavra

it will one shot everything you're fighting as long as you have the talent points correct

[orchid grail]

one shot ❤️

[forest onyx]

also i just googled and apparently you can get up to 114 stats on gear

[heady axle]

What's the cabbage build? I do have the skills but wondering

[forest onyx]

there is a trait you can apply to your gear to increase chomping cabbage dps

and you walk into the middle of a fight invisible and just deploy cabbages and you win~

if you set your garden up in your house well you will never been without a big supply of cabbages so it's not expensive

i have a build with no traits applied to cabbages (i'm lvl 40) and they still do over 1k dmg per chomp. When you stack x6 traits for it on your gear it becomes really strong where you don't even have to send out but two cabbages to deal with an entire fight

[primal dew]

How much extra damage do cursed enemies take?

And is the bonus from gear traits added to this amount or does it act as a Multiplier?

(would 6 x unforgivable 3 traits be +190% damage to cursed enemies? Or +(1%*2.8) = +28%

[woeful adder]

Max main stat per gear piece at lv40 is 114, and the max offence/defence you can get coupled with upgrades (+36) is 450/450

[woeful adder]

unforgivable III gives +30% dmg per slot and is additive, so if you slot it x6, the extra dmg is 30*6 = 180% (or 2.80 multiplier).

The baseline curse bonus is +5% extra damage (1.05 multiplier) and is multiplicative with UC III bonus (1.05 x 2.80 = 2.94 multiplier). Basically you deal 3x the damage to cursed targets

[primal dew]

@woeful adder Thanks. That's pretty insane. I can't see any build coming close to the power level given by 2.94x damage to cursed targets.

[forest onyx]

realistically you don't need any bonuses to cursed targets if you frequently use avada kedavra and spread curses effectively

I'd almost argue that your traits are spent better in other things to have busted curses + another useful thing (like the cabbage build buff etc)

[woeful adder]

yep, from all my testing there is nothing that comes close to it. Even dedicated spell traits that specifically buff that one skill (eg laceration III x 6) amount to a max of 2.31 multiplier, which is still lower than the bonus given by UC 3 (which affects all dmg)

and btw, avada has 1.5 min cooldown. That's a lot of downtime for waves of enemies like the arenas, where you can pretty much 1shot everyone by applying a curse + throwing a spell (eg, arresto+descendo, flipendo+confringo, accio+incendio, glacius+diffindo, levioso+depulso, etc), and if you managed to do a perfect protego (lvl22 talented for the shockwave), you might end up killing whoever was cursed at the time)

UC 3 also buffs ancient magic damage. A cursed troll will take 20k from AM

curse+glacius+vuln is like a 7.05 multiplier. If you follow up with a diffindo, you decapitate whoever is on the receiving end

[primal dew]

Yeah I figure even if you're not using the unforgivable curses themselves, 2.94x damage after you expel, flip, stupefy or arestus someone is still huge

[woeful adder]

you can play UC without ever learning the curses themselves :D. I learnt them because I wanted to, but I find myself never using them. A natural counter with protego+stupefy will apply it (which you can follow with accio+incendio for easy 5-6k), or you can set it up with arresto/flipendo+descendo (4.5k fall damage), or expel+bombarda. By the time you used them all, and threw in a transform+throw, they'll have come off CD (especially flipendo has only 5s cd)

[primal dew]

Do you have any build suggestions which include the curse talents? Obviously it means you have to skip some elsewhere, I'm just not sure what (still early)

[woeful adder]

You have a total of 36 pts and 48 talents, so you have to plan which 12 talents to give up. What I skipped were
RoR

• all the potions talents (5 pts)
• headache (1 pt)

Stealth

• sense of secrecy I & II (2 pts)

Core

• basic cast airborne absorb (1 pt) (I never use basic cast anymore)

DA

• Enduring curse (1 pt) (curse debuff lasts long enough)
• Curse sapper (1 pt)

Spells

• Depulso mastery (1 pt)

I slotted in everything else, but there are many unnecessary talents that I slotted in just because I could. My current build is an all-rounder, meaning you can change playstyle to a plant-focused build if you so wish, or any other variation.

(BRB 1 min)

[forest onyx]

@woeful adder fair point on using avada kedavra in areas where the CD will be relevant, but what about using potions to counter that? you can really boost up your CD time but i don't know the numbers on it

and to be fair at the end of the game you essentially have unlimited potions

[primal dew]

@woeful adder thank you appreciate it 🙏

[woeful adder]

Potions is a good counter to that issue, I just don't like being limited to only 12 pots and having to restock at base every time, whereas UC3 gives me unlimited wherever I go, even if I just want to bully the occasional group of mobs I see from my broom while I fly

[final zinc]

They're gonna add NG+ into the game later on

[woeful adder]

So, getting to the actual build and what talents to pick early on (based on my own experience):

Spells
Incendio mastery - makes your highest potency spell aoe (pick early on)
Diffindo mastery - adds an aoe component to your 2nd strongest spell (pick when you get diffindo)
Confringo mastery - useful to set inferi on fire
Accio mastery - useful to pull more enemies and follow up with incendio aoe
Transform mastery - OP talent (pick when you get transform)

Dark Arts
Stunning curse - easy curse application (pick early on)
Disarming curse - easy curse application (pick early on)
Knockback curse - easy curse application (pick when you get flipendo)
Slowing curse - easy curse applicaiton (pick when you get arresto)

Core
Protego absorption - helps building up ancient mastery bar
Swift - helpful to move around the battlefield
Spell knowledge I, II, III, IV - can't have enough slots (pick asap)
Protego expertise - extra dmg on protego (pick early on)
Protego mastery - shockwave that does aoe dmg and breaks shields (pick when you can)
Stupefy mastery - makes your stupefy do damage (pick when you can)
Wiggenweld potency I, II - makes your potion heal you fully

Stealth
Human demiguise - allows spring while stealthed
Petrificus totalus mastery - aoe stealth attack (low priority if you don't play stealthy)

Room of Requirement
Fertiliser - the most noteworthy if you plan to use plants (low priority if you don't play plants)
Noxious - good utility and damage (low priority if you don't play plants)

So as you can see, the majority of my build is focused on core (for extra action bars and in general to buff protego/stupefy), spells (to make the red spells aoe) and DA (to make flip/arresto/stupefy/expel apply curse debuff).

Every other talent is up to personal preference imo. I didn't put points in stealth/RoR till late game because I wasn't using them, and I put extra pts in core/spells just because I had excess points.

[woeful adder]

My fav. combos are (organized per actionbars, feel free to arrange them how you like. On controller I use north/east/south for bar 1, 2, 3. East/south are easy to reach with my thumb even in combat, and I usually start on north)
Bar 1:

• Transform + throw (depulso)
• Arresto + descendo

Bar 2:

• Accio + incendio
• Flipendo + confringo

Bar 3:

• Glacius + diffindo
• Expel + bombarda

I have a curse applier per bar, and I just rotate between them. This setup doesn't use unf. curses just in case you don't want to play them for that playthrough, otherwise you can just put them all on the 4th bar. If you plan to use them, there are other 1shot combo like cursing everyone and doing avada, or cursing everyone and doing transform+throw (which gives the same result)

[primal dew]

That's brilliant, thank you so much! I think it looks sensible, making good use of how op the damage bonus vs cursed targets is with the unforgivable traits, without actually casting unforgivables.

[lilac swallow]

Are they? Source

[final zinc]

Predicting. Given how the game is built and that a level cap is at 40 for an RPG. That usually means there will be an expansion later on that will increase level cap eventually.

Also its been a trend lately to add New Game Plus a couple of months after release, like with New Horizon and Soon to be God of War.

[lilac swallow]

Yeah i am hopeful

[lyric violet]

KH did it too it brings back attention to the game after it starts to get quiet. Kinda sucky but it's good marketing. I still play KH3 on Critical and never wanna go back!

[final zinc]

And Sony bought partial exclusivity to the game. When expansions come out Sony will probably buy more exclusive quests since they're slowly becoming the Disney of gaming

[lyric violet]

I'm just happy I play Playstation and switch. So as long as I get my exclusives I'll be fine. But I do hear that about them becoming the Disney of gaming

[flat crystal]

Is it worth taking the revelio talent? XD

[final zinc]

They made Tekken a song exclusive like that's wild lol

[final zinc]

Mmhmmm I think you can skip it. Can't say I've noticed the difference, especially when flying

[flat crystal]

Okay lush

[lyric violet]

Absolutely. Never looked back

Though I'll say I took my mini-map off and guidance as well while playing on Hard, so that might be a key factor you might want to consider

[lyric violet]

Woah, really!? See now that's crazy

[dusk bison]

A few build combos I use is Glacius then Confringo (literally shatters the enemy)
The other is Levioso and then Descendo sometimes lol

[rapid radish]

How long does Enduring Curse actually extend your curse effects?

[fluid totem]

i prefer
1 combo:
accio+ descendo+ incendio + (transform + throw) \ bombarda
2 combo:
expel+ confringo + glacius + diffindo
3 combo:
imperio (on most high dps enemy) + crucio (highest hp enemy) + 3-4 basics + avada

[sterile fossil]

I need someone to help me with something
With the protego expertise talent which allows you to send back two projectiles, does it send back stupefy? i know it seems like a dumb question but i wanna know if the projectiles can proc the stunning curse talent

[lyric violet]

It's essentially splitting the oncoming spell into multiples. I don't think it adds the curse talent or can be used to hit multiple targets. Stupify that is.

[primal dew]

Anyone got good combo for late game where you have all the spells

[final zinc]

What talents do you use?

[lyric violet]

I don't use the curses but I'm a fan of

Expellaremus-glacius-depulso

[final zinc]

Accio + incindio
Transformation + depulso (or throw)
Glacio + diffindo
Arresto + descendo

[primal dew]

Ok

[lyric violet]

Arresto+descendo sounds great to me

[final zinc]

If you invest in dark arts talents, then I'll also add

Expelliarmus + bombardo

All these combos will curse enemies without needing to use curse spells. Then you can go for Avada Kedavra combo and one shot everyone

[primal dew]

Ok ye I do invest in dark art talents

[primal dew]

Got super lucky the first chest drop was || Unforgiveavle III trait drop||. I pretty much jumped out of my chair.

[bright violet]

Running unforgivable III and maxed upgraded legendary gear on Hard doesn’t even feel fair anymore. 1/2 shotting most things that aren’t named bosses.

[icy ivy]

#1075522826087448586 message
W build?

[vagrant elk]

Yes, except one thing, cool down

[icy ivy]

the big M word can fix that

[drowsy lantern]

is this dropped from bandit camp?

[tacit drift]

Any builds or guides not revolving around the unforgivable?

[primal dew]

Not sure.

[little willow]

@drowsy lantern all of the traits with the exception of one come from the bandit camps in the chests highlighted on the mini map 🙂

[primal dew]

Don't forget that challenges also gives them

[little willow]

@primal dew fair enough always forget about those with how bad they are

[primal dew]

They are indeed bad lol, just thought i was worth mentioning

[little willow]

@primal dew appreciate you lol good looking out

[nimble berry]

I have one for you. Clear out bandit camps until you find Explosion III. Put that to every gear piece to power up Bombarda. Trust me works like a charm and is a blast to use 💥

[solemn beacon]

best spells to use?

[lapis gale]

my 4th bar has all the unforgivable curses and am

[earnest flame]

My 4th bar is actually arresto momentum, filipendo, expelliarmus and avada kedavra xD

[lapis gale]

what do u do with imperio?

[earnest flame]

3rd bar with crucio descendo and transfiguration. Imperio is broken anyways so just cast it on troll xD

[lapis gale]

kk

[earnest flame]

I was holding myself to not use dark arts talent but then everything went wrong because I'm so curios with the dark arts and it's so broken (and damn fun) T_T

[lapis gale]

lmao

[idle spire]

You could just save/load before opening the chest to reroll the trait you want

[brittle moat]

Hello guys I'm running the Dumbledore build based on ancient magic with arresto depulso glacius incendio . What other spells combine well with these?( I'm thinking of diffindo, confringo and transformation). Also ancient fill rate traits x6 . Is it good to unlock focus and max pot talent on it ?

[slow heron]

Accio + glacius + incedio does insane damage if you time it correctly

[primal dew]

Glacius + any of the other red spells for big damage, combo those with accio and depulso for crowd gather/control

[primal dew]

This would prob be the biggest damage in the shortest time

[woeful adder]

if you go unf. curse III x6 and your enemy is CC'able (like smaller spiders, humans, goblin), you can stack the effects of glacius, curse and vulnerability to a sick 7.05 multiplier. Any followup red spell will do 7x the damage, and incendio and diffindo having the highest base dmg (50 and 45), will yield large numbers

[lyric violet]

I JUST watched that video too! I was thinking throw in depolso and maybe decendo with confringo amd bombarda

[fluid minnow]

Anyone else do stealth curse kills? I use Manipulation III x 6 and full dark arts/stealth talents. I go invisible up to enemies and imperio them until they get to a low enough number where I can Aveda kedavra all the cursed targets quickly. It feels like I risk absolutely nothing, but it's slow moving

[bright violet]

If you’re taking the effort to sneak up on people you can just petrificus the whole camp and be quicker. Invis pots and disillusionment

[brittle moat]

I'm thinking something like this .... https://eip.gg/hogwarts-legacy/talent-planner/?build=xktTaAOKpjnLEMURdVFQqGPNsBurCDvghmeS

[slow heron]

avada kedavara mastery is a must

[brittle moat]

Nah I don't play the 3 "bad" spells

[slow heron]

then why do you have crucio mastery

[brittle moat]

I don't

[final zinc]

Petricfication spell will install kill when upgraded. It's like you're taking 5 steps to do a two step process

Having dark arts and stealth seems counterproductive

[fluid minnow]

No risk of detection that way, or need for invisible pots

[final zinc]

But trying to multi Avada Kedavra will take much longer with your method. You can curse more people quickly if you make flipendo, Arresto, and other spells apply curse when you use them and then AK

[solemn beacon]

do yk any spells that work good with avada kedrava?

[final zinc]

The spells in the Dark Arts tree that apply curse to flipendo, Arresto, Expelliarmus and stupefy

[worthy lintel]

focus on one hard hitting spell like bombarda, confringo or diffindo, and combine that with glacius and you will one-shot about anything(if you have the traits all level 3 applied)

[south sapphire]

Does the wand core change the look of spells too

[primal dew]

Nope

[south sapphire]

Maybe it's because I haven't done the mission yet Accio looked different than mine when a YouTuber was doing the shop mission

[chrome crypt]

Later accio gets wingardium leviosa automatically cast right after on objects so maybe that’s what the color change u saw

[south sapphire]

I can already do that to enemies

Sucks Wingardium Leviosa alone only works on objects

[open shard]

Is the herbology trait like bugged? Is the level 3 trait really supposed to give 75 percent more damage??

[chrome crypt]

Enjoy the Shop quest, it’s super cool. Reminded me of Control

[heady axle]

Shop quest wdym?

[chrome crypt]

Haunted Hogsmeade Shop

[heady axle]

Hmm I guess I am not there yet

[tepid wave]

I was wondering that myself. I think the singular plant traits give less of a bonus, which I don’t think is intended.

[chrome crypt]

Is the plant turret fun? It looks great on paper breaking shields and added dmg but just wasn’t vibing with my aesthetic

[final zinc]

It works on enemies too.

[tepid wave]

Yeah, I really like it because the upgrade does break shields I throw out a couple of them along with some cabbages and it usually clears the field for me

[summer sequoia]

I am thinking of a character kinda like young Bellatrix using mainly crucio and having the cruelty enchantment but I don’t know if it does any good damage even with 6 stacks of it

[final zinc]

Unforgiveables will add more damage. I noticed that when I attack cursed enemies with any spell the damage is doubled when I gave six unforgiveables 3 traits

[chrome crypt]

Do you plan to use other spells or just crucio? Let us know how the DoT is with the trait buffs. I only really use it for stun and spreading curse

[summer sequoia]

For better or for worse in this game you can’t only use one spell so I will try something like having another sheet full of damage spells and avada but I want to use crucio as much as I can

[fluid minnow]

Unforgivable doesn't increase the tick damage from crucio, right?

[primal dew]

No just the initial impact damage of the curse the rest of the damage comes from your offence stat

[fluid minnow]

Doesn't seem to be a good way to focus around crucio then except to spread curse

[primal dew]

It's a fantastic way to spread curses to each enemy and then follow up with avada kedavra

[chrome crypt]

This good to know

[primal dew]

Anytime lol

[south sapphire]

For some reason for me I had to use accio

[open shard]

Like 75 percent TIMES 6 is just broken 😂

[bright violet]

I feel like there should have been set bonuses like equip 2/3/6 of the same trait and get X Y Z bonuses. Would allow for more mix and match. Right now it’s just stack unforgivable and hit things for 8k.

[young ice]

Once your character is max level. Do you get 35 or 36 talent points?

[rose scaffold]

36 I think.

[toxic epoch]

Im overwhelmed by all the talents. What are the best builds?

[rose scaffold]

Damage wise I think it's plants.

[grave spade]

Honestly seems like anything works? The game doesnt really require a strong build. But spamming plants or using crucio to spread curse and upgraded avada kedavra is generally the best imo

[woeful adder]

UC does increase the tick damage more than cruelty does: 500 ticks vs 413

[fluid minnow]

That's the opposite of what the other guy said, you tested this?

Seems strange they'd make unforgivable do more for crucio than a crucio specific trait

[woeful adder]

Yes, done all the testing. Many traits are rendered pointless by the existence of UC.

All the specific spell traits III increase dmg done by that spell by 15%, which stacks multiplicatively up to +131.3% dmg (or 2.313 multiplier)

UC III buffs all dmg by 30%, which stacks additively up to 180% (or 2.80 multiplier)

So yea, UC buffs your damage more than a specific trait would, and on top of that it also buffs the damage of everything else (other red spells, fall damage, ancient magic).

The only reason not to run UC is if you specifically want to role-play a purely nice mage with 0 dark arts investment (or if you simply don't like the conditional of needing the target to be cursed)

UC could be nerfed down from 180% to 60% and it would still be the top choice (it would be comparable to concentration, but also affect fall dmg, dots, and ancient magic on top of just red spells)

[rose scaffold]

The curse requirement isn't even hard to meet. Expelliarmus, arresto momentum, flipendo, and stupefy can all aply curse if the talents are chosen. Flipendo has a very short cooldown and stupefy breaks through all shields, I believe and is relatively easy to cast. Then just killing curse the room. The problem I had though is that more often then not in trying to get curse everywhere I just killed the enemies. I'm gonna crank it to max difficulty later to see if it's easier to combo into the killing curse.

[fluid minnow]

Thank you for the detailed breakdown. Was having trouble finding numbers for the traits

[cedar elk]

To be fair, if you turn an enemy into an object, you can then lift them. I'm quite fond of transfiguring an enemy and then dropping them into the void.

[primal dew]

Anyone got a good spell loudout cuz mine is not that good

[stiff oyster]

accio, incendio, glacius, diffendo

good allrounder, if you get more advanced you can take advantage of hot swapping between your sets

(certain spells have interactions with enemy attacks, like you can insta kill burrowing spiders with levioso)

[alpine parcel]

im planning on doing a playthrough where i cant use spells on enemies

basic cast and protego and all the essential talents are allowed

[stiff oyster]

more than enough, actually did that by accident when I started my second playthrough as I became too lazy for spells. only requirement is perfect blocks to bust the shields (any block will do on normal and under)

[alpine parcel]

well i plan to only do perfect protegos until once i get another way to break shields, also i wont do a plant build since thats too op

[tough mauve]

Anyone have a link to the strongest unforgivable curses build and also for the strongest build out there that doesn't involve using plants?

[rare cradle]

I see people are still sleeping on Transformation in their dark arts builds

[vital ocean]

banana

[fiery root]

I definitely ain't. I have transfiguration, bombarda, imperio and Accio Or depulso as when needed

[rare cradle]

Damn you caught me slipping 😅

[rare cradle]

Very nice. I think I usually just default to accio but pretty much the same for me

[fiery root]

Too destructive. Add a mandrake + maxima potion, almost everything is one shot

[rare cradle]

Facts. Probably too strong 😂

[fiery root]

Absolutely. It's definitely a good alternative to AK.

[rare cradle]

I know some people prefer flipendo but you really don't need it to help spread curses around

[fiery root]

Honestly how good is flipendo? I use it only when I have to flip the troll's club

[primal dew]

Just tried a nice lil combo 1. Expelliarmus 2. Descendo 3. Glacius 4.Diffindo

[blissful anchor]

Final Build:

Expelliarmus, Imperio, Crucio, Avada Kedavra

Defense+++ against dark wizards

Defense+++ against goblins

Imperio units dealing more DMG+++

Damage+++ against cursed units

Plants dealing more DMG+++

Crucio dealing more DMG+++

Talents are fully dark arts, mixed with ROR Talents and main talents

[heady axle]

U posted it the other day right? Might give it a try since it's kinda what I want for spells

[blissful anchor]

Yeah, got the crucio perk now and the chip dmg is isane

[heady axle]

Wow, yeah! Must be. What are the dmg output?

[blissful anchor]

I barely can’t activate the AK before Crucio kills the units. 1-2 ticks and they’re gone

[soft turret]

What is UC?

[tough mauve]

What is the best way to spread curses?

[fringe void]

Crucio with the dark arts talent to spread it.

[tough mauve]

Ok

[woeful adder]

unforgivable curse trait

[soft turret]

What does it do?

[woeful adder]

it increases the damage taken by cursed targets by a large amount

[tough mauve]

I haven't seen anything that spreads crcuio to other targets

Is it an endgame thing or something?

[stray prism]

the herbology build is so strong all i have to do is roll around and the enemies are killed so fast.

[patent osprey]

best talents to use

[blissful anchor]

Especially if it’s combined with upgrading the plants in the talent tree , like I did. The perk is one of the best in the game.

[stray prism]

all my gear has the tier 3 herbology trait

[blissful anchor]

Mhh too one-sided for my personal taste I like it a bit more balanced.

Your build will be useless against Ranrok btw

[stray prism]

i can always switch to concentration before the last quest

[solemn beacon]

rn my i’m using Expelliarmus, cruico, accio and glacier spell i forgot the name should i change out any for confringo or keep it how it is

[flat crystal]

Do you think the plant build will see a nerf?

[blissful anchor]

No, because it’s useless against the final boss and it’s not a competitive multiplayer game

[flat crystal]

Lovely!

[lyric violet]

Hoping for a duel dlc pvp honestly.

Merlin knows I'd dedicate smash Brothers lv of time to it. 1300hrs plus

[stray prism]

i dont think the game has been out for some one to put that many hours into the game.

isnt 1300 hours like 54 days

[stray prism]

isnt 1300+ hours like 54+ days

[solemn beacon]

?

[lyric violet]

Jesus, when you put it like that. 😅

[lyric violet]

Oh! Sorry my bad Smash Brother Ultimate I have 1300 hrs. I was saying if this game added dueling pvp I'd put an equal amout of time into this game too

[dim rose]

This may not be relevant to t he topic here, but id like some help. I finally got to the crucio curse, but choose not to learn it to keey to my 'good wizard' feel of my character. Did I miss out too much on this one? Does learning dark arts impact the story so much or can you learn them and still be good in the story?

i went by what the dialog said , how dark magic ominis shared and the only reason it works if you truly mean it

couldn't do it

[jade arch]

Doesn’t impact the story I’d say

Makes some fights a bit easier but that’s about it

[dim rose]

so if you do not learn crusio, do you not get the others as well?

in the end id imagine its about challenge completion too so maybe i need to go back , but like i said i wanna keep my character in the moral good catagory

[jade arch]

I don’t know about that

I just learned all of them soooo yeaaaa

[dim rose]

well saved that place if i ever wanna go back but like i said if there was a 'secret' path where dark magic didn't make you dark wizard in lore, id pick it up with less hesitation

[slow birch]

You can get the others and if you dont learn any (depending on your decisions) you can learn them any time if you chance your mind

[dim rose]

Really? how?

[slow birch]

krypta

[dim rose]

.... i dont know what, must be further in the story.

[pallid mist]

Poor Man’s Avada Kedavra
-Point-blank Incendio
-Expelliarmus
-Glacius
-Point-blank Confringo

[tacit drift]

Just learn them but don’t use the spells, that’s what I did. Wanted to keep the ‘good wizard’ category but didn’t want to miss out on the spells either. To my knowledge it doesn’t impact story at all. Never know what the future will bring in game and don’t want to regret not learning the spells

[dim rose]

true and like i learned i can learn them later from sabastian in the undercoft too. ty

i don't even put any points into that talent tree for it. though i will say this, im a little disappointed lvl 40 is the cap

main story lvl im on now is like 15 and im at 31

[tacit drift]

You can as long as you pick the right choice later on in story. I’d look into it online. Don’t want to spoil it for you. That way you can learn them later if you choose so.

[dim rose]

i was told how in lore, at least to learn them, i could go back where i saved it manually but i got pretty far ahead in story after that. id hate to revert backwards

[formal cape]

anyone have a cursed herbology build?

mainly just wondering which traits i should use, go full herbology 3 or have 4 herbology 3 and 2 unforgivable 3?

[analog turret]

Mandarake or Chomping Cabbage?

[south fractal]

In my mind...
Venomous is Shield Killer.
Chomping Cabbage is Zerg Rush
Mandrake is Crowd Control

[viral nexus]

currently, I have unforgivable III on all my gear and have all three unforgivable curses in my first spell slots. Of course, the spells have long cooldowns, and I often find myself stuck with all the spells on cooldown. What spells should I put in my second spell slot that I can use whilst my curses are on cooldown?

[chrome crypt]

Is your Dark Arts talent tree maxed? If you invested points, you could slot Expelliarmus, Flipendo, Arresto as they apply Curse which works with your gear and main slot spells

[viral nexus]

my talents are just maxed out spell, dark arts, and core

so I think I'll do that

[stray prism]

on to my third character. Going to try a curse build

[blissful anchor]

Try my build, its cursed based and super bulky

[woven thicket]

you dont really need unforgivable on your gear if you go with avada kedavra:
basically what you want to do is curse one player with crucio and spam basic attacks on it without dealing much dmg. that should curse many enemies that you then finish with avada.
you can put any cc on the remaining 2 slots, imperio can be used too but is not necessarily needed.
your gear can be any tank traits.

[jade arch]

I read bully instead of bulky

[blissful anchor]

You’ll actually be a bully but also bulky 🌚

[jade arch]

Sounds like a win win to me

[blissful anchor]

Be sure to upgrade health potions, get some defense perks , spread the curse effect and finish with a smooth AK

[viral nexus]

I would do this, but the issue is all the tank traits are for one specific enemy. Unless I missed something.

[tidal nebula]

Sorry if this is a n00b question but do the traits stack?
Would it be worth putting the incendio trait on all 6 piece of gear for a killer fire spell at close range?

[woven thicket]

well, its still easier to apply curse to more targets, if the main target (the one hit by crucio) is not dying too easily.

[viral nexus]

that's true, i have found that to be an issue

what trait do you suggest?

[woven thicket]

yes they do. not all the same way tho.

unforgivable is stacking additive. (3x unforgivable 3 = 90% more dmg)
the spell specific traits stack multiplicative. (3x diffindo buff = 1.15^3)

[woven thicket]

just chose what you feel is the one that hits you most

[viral nexus]

okay!

[viral fog]

Is there a list for the Traits that are Multiplicative ??

[delicate oracle]

I do have cursed herbology. 3 herbology and 3 unforgivable

[dusky sleet]

I feel like Curse build is almost to strong for it too work well. I have a hard time spreading the curse when by casting on a curse target. Unless its a troll the npcs just die to fast

[sleek whale]

@viral nexus u could had infinite up time if u had the focus upgrade

I spam all mine every few seconds lol 😆 no problem whatsoever

[shy sierra]

Just curious if anyone else is playing like I am. I’m going the good route all the way through, but learning unforgivable and only using them when threatened lol.

[viral nexus]

im not a fan of one-time-use items like potions, so i didn't invest in room of req

[primal dew]

Potions can be very helpful until you get your build going 🙂

[fallow knoll]

What are the must have talents right now?

[hollow meteor]

All stealth talents and all talents that include unforgivable spells

[fallen lion]

Stealth is boring in this game 😦 only talent that good is the sprinting while invis

[primal dew]

There are no must haves... game is easy enough later on: Just hit your forehead on the keyboard and half of the forbidden forest is dead

[nova elm]

What is the best way to spend your talent points? some builds/guides?

[south sapphire]

Didn't even need the upgrade 😂 I just beat the game as a level 28

[final zinc]

Literally every talent but potions

[sleek whale]

I get free potions so one time use with unlimited power and I ger free supply lol 😆

I'm a wizard god of dark arts I just stop using talent points at lv 27

[livid mulch]

There is no true “best” game is very eZ, talent how you like to play, as you level things just melt. I personally went all plant and pot buffs, a single cabbage toss or mandrake can wipe an entire camp

[grave spade]

Concentration, Control, Cruelty, Deafening, Destruction, Disarming, Explosive, Fangs, Laceration, Manipulation, Scorching, Venom, Defensive are all multiplicative

Ambush, Ancient Magic Focus, Ancient Magic, Binding, Herbology, Unforgivable are all additive

I'd send a link to a reddit post that goes into more detail but idk if links are allowed 🤔

[wooden perch]

I gotta say - I’m loving the duelling gaming mechanics, feels a bit like Street Fighter with the button combos.

What your highest number hit combo? 10? 20? 30?

SPOILER ALERT
|| https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1738813902 ||

[exotic pecan]

over 100!

[wooden perch]

What really! I need to see a clip!

[exotic pecan]

I managed it in battle arena hhahah but i did not record it i dont even know how to record clips

[wooden perch]

All good, what is your go to combo of spells?

I just got the quick dash, what ever it its called

[exotic pecan]

I honestly really like accio into incendio into depulso and then bombarda for my first set, second ive been messing around with a few but i use some unforgivable spells too if i get annoyed at the enemies hahah

[viral fog]

Thank you for that.

[final zinc]

120 during the second trial boss. It was tanky so I just used basic hits to rack up combo so I can get the achievement and spam ancient magic when it was close to death lol

[wooden perch]

From what I’m reading about unforgivables, it sounds so OP, and wouldn’t be good for a PvP battle game mode

[wooden perch]

Damn. What’s your favourite spell combo. Have you got a clip you can share?

[solemn beacon]

I have a combo thats pretty short but op i just do accio into do 3 basic blasts then expelimuris into a unforgivable if they have a wepon then throw it at them and do 4 basic blasts after

one shots a loyalist or gets them very low

[woven jewel]

just slap on avada with the infectious curse thing and instakill all cursed enemies, done

[wicked mortar]

need a dark art's / unforgivable curse build pls

[woven jewel]

look at what i said

use crucio, wait a bit, then advada for mass destruction

[wicked mortar]

i mean true but is there no like super over complicated build for that

[woven jewel]

why would you want an complicated build over a simple build

[wooden perch]

That sounds OP

[wooden perch]

For the challenge?

[slow heron]

im going for a glacius + diffindo type build, is it worth getting the diffindo damage increase trait?

[dense marsh]

Yes if u put it on all ur armor

[slow heron]

thx

[dense marsh]

👍

[wooden perch]

Anyone got a cheat sheet of the different builds?

[primal dew]

Anyone got a spell load out

[primal dew]

Accio and incendio. I use transfiguration and turn them into a barrel bomb and also have expelliarmus. On my other slot I use the unforgivable curses

[primal dew]

Depends on what you wanna do >> AoE, single target, curse, control.....

[cyan jolt]

Just stack concetration on all your gear 😂

And for spell load out it doesn’t matter too much if you can switch in between sets fast enough

[woven thicket]

thats not really suggestable because of how it buffs dmg.
basically:
Base Dmg x
((1 + 0.1x[level of trait]x[unforgivable trait amount] ) x ( 1.05 {if you have any amount of curse upgrades from talents})) x
(1 + (0.05x[level of trait])) ^ [spell specific trait amount] x
(2 {if pot active}) x
(1 + 0.03x[level of trait])^[concentration trait amount] x
(2 {if target is affected by glacio}) x this buff is higher against weak targets
(1 + 0.1x[level of trait]x[ambush trait amount])

[primal dew]

Flipendo Descendo Glacius Diffindo best combo

Why is Glacius Diffindo a combo?

[primal dew]

glacius give it a buff

[woven thicket]

because glacius buffs dmg a lot against single targets + adds an aoe burst. Diffindo also does damage to multiple close targets and has a high dmg output + it works well against trolls and other cc immune enemies still

[primal dew]

So Expelliarmus + Disarming Curse is a combo with everything?

3000~> hp is ok?

3000<~

[woven thicket]

i suggest:
set 1: levioso flippendo glacio diffindo
set 2: accio descendo incendio arresto
set 3: avada crucio imperio bombarda/depulso
set 4: lumos disillusionment wingardium leviosa reparo

set 1 or 3 are your main dmg sets that work well against any type of enemy.
set 2 is the set against inferi
set 4 is utility only

as incendio is only for enemies that die quickly anyways, dont focus on that set with your gear.
avada + crucio doesnt need gear as well.
obviously same for utility set.
so you can easily put in all the gear you need for set 1, which would be 2x diffindo + 4x unforgivable traits
alternatively if you use disillusionment a lot you can put in 3x disillusionment set + 3x unforgivable for max dmg output

[primal dew]

in 4 u need the beast catch thing

[woven thicket]

yeah, whatever, i just named the first 4 spells that came to my mind for that set. can also swap it with room of requirement spells.

[primal dew]

yeah

[cyan jolt]

I mean does it really matter? Cause u have to switch between sets anyway for cool down

[woven thicket]

but most sets dont require buffs

with incendio alone without any buffs you oneshot most squishy targets in hard mode.
so buffing it is kinda pointless.
diffindo however profits greatly from buffs + is really effective against non squishy targets

so instead of buffing all spells, buff diffindo as much as possible

[cyan jolt]

But I thought you said there was no point in stacking basically

[woven thicket]

oh no, there is point in stacking, but not with concentration.
its the weakest trait in the game^^

[cyan jolt]

Interesting so u think stacking diffindo is the way?

[woven thicket]

mathematically the best would be 3x unforgivable 3 + 3x ambush 3
i dont use disillusionment so much, as it is impractical so i prefer the second best that is
4x unforgivable + 2x diffindo

or you go with chomping salad^^ that would work too obviously, but really i think that is boring after a while

[cyan jolt]

Aww ok I see

[grave spade]

Wait how is 6x unforgivable worse than 3x unforgivable + 3x ambush, don't they have the same numbers and are both additive

And isn't the spell specific ones kinda meh cuz they're multiplicative ?

[woven thicket]

not exactly:
6x unforgivable III = Base Damage x(1+6x0.3) = Base Damage x 2.8
3x unforgivable III + 3x ambush III = Base Damage x (1+3x0.3) x (1+3x0.3) = Base Damage x 3.61
same value and they work additive to themselves, but multiplicative to the other.

4x unforgivable III + 2x diffindo III = Base Damage x (1+4x0.3) x (1.15^2) = Base Damage x 2.9095
6x diffindo III = Base Damage x (1.15^6) = 2.313

as you can see it is worse to go with full spell specific ones, but if you mix them with the other ones it becomes stronger than 6x those.

[grave spade]

Ah I am the dumb and didn't consider them multiplying to eachother xd

For the diffindo one tho I think that's such a small diff that 6x unforgivable would be better unless you strictly use diffindo and nothing else

[woven thicket]

you dont really need to buff any other spell: incendio onehits all the squishy targets without using buffs.
avada does that too obviously.
and the remaining combo is glacio diffindo, that one can oneshot trolls if you buff it.

[primal dew]

what ambush trait do?

[grave spade]

when using disillusionment you do 30% more dmg at rank 3

[lyric violet]

Might run a stealthy Hufflepuff for my second run. That's bonkers

[primal dew]

Hmm, 30% more damage for each applied trait in the clothing?

[lyric violet]

My guess would be just the trait is 30% but you can add more to that with the right upgrades of course.

[grave spade]

It's additive... so it does stack up to be really high, Leo posted the math above but I'll repost
6x unforgivable III = Base Damage x(1+6x0.3) = Base Damage x 2.8
3x unforgivable III + 3x ambush III = Base Damage x (1+3x0.3) x (1+3x0.3) = Base Damage x 3.61

the 6x unforgivable is equivalent to 6x ambush, the 3x of each is seemingly the highest multiplier

[whole dune]

I use the Red, Yellow, and Purple spells in the same slot all in the same rows. I keep the Diffendo spell in slot 2 and the Freezing (Glacius) spell in Slot 2 so I can flip between them quickly. I use a keyboard and mouse... the controller was a nuisance ... I use a foot controller for the Ctrl, z, and x. keys. The Purple keys are all in a row. The Expellarus is Slot 2 next to the Slot 1 Disallusionment. The Wingardium Levosa spell is next to the Expellarus Slot 3, and Lumos is Slot 4.

I don't use the other "dark wizard" curses very often ... I am pretty good at zapping with all the other keys.

I switch out the Conjuring spells when I am in the room of requirement. I don't know how many times I have used confringo in Vivarium and watched all the animals scatter.

[grave spade]

Yeah I do something similar

Wish the keybinds were better though... cuz it feels janky no matter how I organize it

[whole dune]

It's really janky when flying on that broomstick .

I have tried everything on the broomstick ... my controller ... keyboard/mouse. Nothing works so I am stuck with the keyboard and mouse .. plus my foot controller ... which I had to bind for z and w ... instead of w for walking.

[grave spade]

The broom feels fine for me on kbm with default controls... just hold W and turn with mouse dont bother with a or d

[whole dune]

I finally figured that one out ... sheesh ... sometimes it goes so fast though ... i have to use B ... dismount ... as a "Brake"

The goblins are always saying now that "using that dark magic" now. So, I am a dark wizard .. no, we are Ancient Wizards. Remember the "Ancients" in Stargate?

[main heart]

I just got Crucio. Is it worth getting Blood Curse and the Improvement for Crucio and then pair that with Glacio and DIffindo to then spread the curse on all enemies and afterwards the Glacio into Diffindo dmg?

[grave spade]

Blood curse doesn't feel too powerful for me, I believe its only 10% of the damage shared so I'd get everything else you want first since you won't be doing insane damage yet

but when you're end game it can be pretty nice to have

[main heart]

Is Crucio even that useful right now?

I know that is good with AK later and the Transmog Spell Upgrade

[grave spade]

It's nice to break shields, stun, and apply constant damage to some of the tankier enemies, but it does take a bit to start becoming really good imo

[shell sandal]

Crucio with the upgrade to spread via basic attacks, mixed with the killing curse upgraded to kill all cursed enemies is the most OP combo

[grave spade]

yah but you gotta get avada tho... so since they just got crucio it'll take a little bit before its good

[shell sandal]

Still worth dumping the points in to it

[dreamy whale]

It weirdly helped me dodge sm attacks in the ranrok fight 😭

[grave spade]

true it does help with that too

all the unforgivables do

[vague grove]

Honestly if you apply the traits to increase dmg from your throw you 1 shot whole camps with the rocks laying around

[tiny orbit]

can you transfer traits from gear to gear?

[forest beacon]

@tiny orbit no, but you could craft the traits later in the game.

[tiny orbit]

ah yeah i have the loom already, but haven't really crafted traits since i can still get better gear

did you guys just upgrade your current set to max then only replaced them if the new gear's base scores are higher than old gear's max?

[forest beacon]

@tiny orbit I held onto gear that had higher base stats than my current gear. I would hold onto them to upgrade later, so I know they could surpass my current gear score. Even though I am lv 40, I still wear 38 gear, because those last few points doesn't change much, since I'm decent at combat.

[primal dew]

yeah kinda some times

[grave spade]

Once I got lvl 30 gear I just upgraded that and kept it till I got lvl 40 stuff... You do more than enough damage and if you can counter and dodge well you won't take damage anyway

[shy cradle]

Who needs AK and crucio if u can just mandrake and cabbages = game over xd

[next relic]

Where did you get the numbers for each traits?

I can't seem to find them, and would love to have a way to compare versions...

[tender minnow]

Honestly I just loved using the herbology plants I'd grown. I didn't realise just how OP they were until late game! I may try another build in the next game though- I want to play a slytherin this time!

[woven thicket]

i tested them myself.
went to a river troll and checked the values.

but its 3 or more times confirmed by now

[next relic]

And so numbers are 1.15 multiplication-stackable for specific spells, and 0.3 addition-stackable for generic ones?

[woven thicket]

yes

[next relic]

And for plants/potions, I guess 1.15/0.3 as well?

[woven thicket]

i didnt test them

but i would believe so.

[next relic]

Thank you very much!

[rigid parcel]

I’m level 12 and wear 30 gear

[grave spade]

Why do that when you can crucio > transfigure to do the same thing as AK but lower cd

[unique dew]

Just wanted to share what i do in combat and compare

Does anyone else start with crucio, confringo, a couple wand flicks, avada kadavra?

Trying to curse as many as possible before avada, with the right talents it will wipe entire groups

[sacred depot]

Any opinions on what spell sets work best together?

[lyric violet]

I try to start out with Accio but mostly Expellarmus then move into Accio-Decendo-Confingo

[stable mesa]

Glacius, Diffindo, Accio, incendio. Use accio the glacius the combo with incendio the diffindo can kill most things

[lyric violet]

I have curse aliment on my normal spells but don't use any of the unforgivables so I can get some pretty crazy results by starting with Expellarmus.

I try to end with Confringo, 1 it's my favorite spell 2. I have Confringo III and the finishing damage is quite, shall I say 🔥🥹

[stable mesa]

bombardo jsurt better confingo in my oppinion

[lyric violet]

I love the colors for Bombarda so it's on my spell wheel still. I do enjoy the blast wave you can stack onto it too!

[sacred depot]

Noice

[grave spade]

I rotate through most of the spells and fill time with basic cast unless I use the focus potions... Then it's just spamming accio > incendio or glacius > diffindo while using Lumos to keep the buff up

Or just crucio > spam > avada/transfigure and delete everything

[plucky quest]

sny builds that mstch hermione

or is there a hermione build

[south sapphire]

Look it up on YouTube

[plucky quest]

i foundnone

[grave spade]

For combat related spells she used accio, arresto momentum, bombarda, confringo, depulso, diffindo, expelliarmus, incendio, stupify, dissilusionment, and petrificus totalus... So just upgrade those and use them how she would

Probably best build you could make using that is a mix of ambush traits and diffindo since she wouldn't use dark arts talents

Also wouldn't be able to use ancient magic... So would be pretty weak

[plucky quest]

but these are morw than 4 rigjt? i cN only use 4 as far as i know im pretty new. which ones the best 4

that also match her and she used the most

[grave spade]

You can use more than 4... you get 16 slots

If you really only want to use 4 then your best bet is accio, arresto momentum, diffindo, incendio so you have purple and yellow to break shields, diffindo for high single target damage, and incendio for multiple enemies and inferi

but you can unlock 3 more spell bars you can cycle through with talents... so just do that instead of limiting yourself

[plucky quest]

oh cs im pretty knew so ur saying i unlock thoose u told me up there upgrade them and use the ones u said cs i see on vids there id like 4 spells on screen

[grave spade]

Yeah you only have 4 on the bar at one time but you can unlock 3 more bars that you can cycle through, im not sure what the keybinds are on a controller but you can use mouse wheel on pc

[plucky quest]

i have to see. so gameplan is. unlock all these spells u said, upgrade them all, on the bar i use thoose u told me and how i use or cycle trougj them.