🙎┃character-guides

[slender ether]

[rocky dove]

Current are Tarka shayol and kylin imo

[kind ginkgo]

Kylin debatable id say, but definitely true 👍

[slender ether]

I wanna use my chests for a op cha skin

[kind ginkgo]

Use them for a character that you like instead

Op characters won't remain always remain the same

[novel plover]

Wuchen guide?

[magic hinge]

More like tarka shayol lannie lyam

And then kylin

[lapis sail]

hi there im new in the game and just know the basics and so on

jst wanna know who is the best hero for solo queue rn

[little cargo]

The best character for solo is the worst character to learn since he teaches a ton of bad habits

[kind ginkgo]

since you are a new player i'd recommend any hero you like

no need to look at tierlists when startin off

[lapis sail]

si there any weap that is quite good for beginner at least ?

im kinda into greatsword and kinda wondering how do ppl get the atk pattern of hold atk left clickwhile getting attacked ( the one that swirling or smth that needed 3 phase of hold )

[kind ginkgo]

This might help

https://youtu.be/y59HE32pHqU?si=jTSIADy5O0ce6LG_

[kind ginkgo]

Id say katana is probably the best to learn the basics with

But aside that anything works

[cinder matrix]

anyone got recommended solo glyphs for ziping? im running rage/dmg and skill cdr over the grapple speed path

[olive sun]

that's ok already

[untold plume]

[slender ether]

can anyone tell me cha playstyles for justina gu, yoto hime and lannie

[rocky dove]

Justina can either be fast DPS or slow CC , yoto is slow but hard hitting, Lannie is combo oriented

[slender ether]

[slender ether]

Which would u say is strongst cha of the 3

[rocky dove]

Lannie

[kind ginkgo]

Justina hands down tbf 🤔

More versatile

[slender ether]

After watching this i think i wanna main lannie https://youtu.be/sSgji8e8R3k?si=onmyn4KcNyy35TM-

[kind ginkgo]

Beware that those combo starters don't work anymore 👍👍

[slender ether]

the grabbling hook starter ?

[kind ginkgo]

The ult part

Where they keep the enemy in the air with the ult to follow-up with the stun

The patched it out a while ago

[slender ether]

how do u combo with lannie then

[kind ginkgo]

You can still start with throwing the ball

Simply you can not have a "guaranteed" combo start if you manage to win neutral, you need to already be in ult in order to capitalize on it

[slender ether]

[misty pulsar]

hi guys, someone can tell me or show which glyph i should go on takeda please ? ❤️

[compact ledge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnbxhDbvuNM

[slender ether]

is there any video of her in current patch

that montage vid is latest i found :3

[misty pulsar]

thx ❤️

[little cargo]

Also beware that 90% of your gameplay will not be like the montage and it will take long time until you can do them in real match against real players

[kind ginkgo]

yep

very important thing to point ou

tt

[kind ginkgo]

not that i knw of

or better, i dont have any at hand atm

[chrome cliff]

even if you take time to learn things and get good, experienced players usually spend a couple of weeks farming clips for a montage

it's hardly representative

[slender ether]

https://tenor.com/view/roxy-nah-i'd-win-roxy-nah-id-win-roxy-nah-i'd-win-gif-17615412474983045810

[lapis sail]

what is F2V3 in the pinned comment ?

[finite burrow]

Skills and ult I guess. I play on PS, but I think that’s it

[kind ginkgo]

F stands for skill, 2 is the second option from the top; same goes for "v", which is the ult 👍

[rain wraith]

For tessa, is it better to skip the last two omni glyphs and put them into solar?

[kind ginkgo]

what color are you referring to? (never really learned the exact names, i usually go by colors, way simpler 😅 )

[rain wraith]

Solar is red omni is green

[kind ginkgo]

depends on your playstyle

generally if i recall correctly atm, it's better to take skill cdr compared to ult on tessa, but don't quote me on that, prolly penemue could tell you better when he gets online 👍

[supple schooner]

is there a way to incorporate wuchen's ult in a combo?

[kind ginkgo]

Not directly, no

The staggers are too quick to build anything

Focus attack spam once someone is staggered is still the optimal way from what I know 🤔👍

[supple schooner]

mkay thanks 🥲

[rain wraith]

Okay

[little cargo]

The best you can is uppercut -> throw the sword into them for guarantee V

[hallow crest]

Is it generally accepted that Lyam's main ult is better than the ball one in solos? I've only been playing like 8 days and maining him but the ball feels pointless without teammates there to gang up on it.

[olive sun]

actually on highest level of solo lyam use the ball ult more often

it allows you to do one heal when enemy is captured and still got enough time to throw them, if there's terrain it also allow you to start an air juggle combo, if there's no terrain it allows you to do a sick bow continuously headshot combo

[kind ginkgo]

ball is more used at high level since it allows for disengage better and also stronger combos overall

v1 is stronger in the sense that it heals, but at higher level it's really hard to hit people with it unless they already are in a combo

it was the opposite till a few months ago, but now the ball is overall better

[hallow crest]

@olive sun @kind ginkgo Thank you both! I suppose I didn't consider combo potential but still learning. Came from For Honor where we don't have all the special skills and mobility.

[kind ginkgo]

All good 👍

If u have any other question just ask

[olive sun]

v2 ult is much harder to make use of compare to v1 tho

so there's that

[mint mauve]

Is there any news of yoto hime getting a buff

[olive sun]

there is

they just says they'll buff her, no idea what's the buff gonna be tho

[mint mauve]

its been.. over a year since you've been telling me that..

[olive sun]

except this time the devs said that 😂

last time i said yoto gonna get buff just don't know when

now they mentioned it in #1372928733568045096 that she'll get buffed at the beginning of season 17

[karmic wolf]

she gonna press the ult full invul but instead of a vertical slash she will do a spinning atk of 20ms radius which will make you unable to use stamina if hits, and it will keep spinning several times teleport able with huge damage

[mild thistle]

Guide me 🥹

[karmic wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-light-saber-safety-gif-13792478

[coarse tree]

whats the best way to combo with lannie?
I am trying in the practice range, but I can't seem to figure out a good way to deal enough damage at the same time as keeping the bot stunned the entire time

Example: With longsword I can
v, v, cv, g, vc, f
but after that it is entirely reliant on them staying airborne to maintain the stun, I have a hard time dealing actual damage

[coarse tree]

well after a bunch of practice, I can keep the stun up with blues(with longsword anyway) and get more than enough damage off to kill someone normally (3400-3800)

but this only works on certain weapons and requires all 3 balls, and I can't figure out a good way to use the bomb

something I am missing?

[coarse tree]

this is the most consistent I found for most weapons

[kind ginkgo]

there is way more

aside the combo starters these are some options you could have with lannie

just hit them once with the ball and you can chain those for example

[rain wraith]

Best glyph plan for solo queue tessa?

[kind ginkgo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnbxhDbvuNM

try checking this out, it could help you better

[rain wraith]

Okay

[chilly relic]

Does anyone have a list of characters and their interaction with other character's ultimates

[kind ginkgo]

the notable one is kurumi with a few others, it's noted in the naraka wiki 👍

u can find most info there if it's smth like this

[rocky dove]

Rumi with tarka,valda,temulch
Temulch and yueshan
Are those only ones that come to mind

Technically Tianhai can grab Féria from her mech but it’s really buggy

[magic hinge]

How does tem and Yueshan interact?

[rocky dove]

Yueshan can buff his team in V2 to not be affected by sandstorm

[magic hinge]

Oh u mean like that

Then Viper invis stops viper stun

Feria mech/ Valda spears stagger transformers

[rocky dove]

You ment Matari but yeah

[magic hinge]

Oh shiii yeah

[boreal crow]

whats the best move set for kylin?

[rocky dove]

I believe F2V2 for burst F1V1 for more survivability

[boreal crow]

Why are there so little cosmetics for him>?

[rocky dove]

Because he’s a crossover character like yoto hime

[boreal crow]

new to the game whats crossover mean?

[rocky dove]

He’s a character from another IP

[boreal crow]

IP?

[rocky dove]

Intellectual property

Another company’s character

[boreal crow]

kind of lame haha. Could you tell me about the bosses that randomly happen when you win a match? do you have to do something in game to trigger them or are they rnadom

[rocky dove]

They usually spawn in at the pregame lobby and if you win with all your team alive you fight Moonbane on Holo and morus
Sunwing in the new map

It’s also random if they show up in pregame

[true marsh]

which of tarka's ultimate is the better one?

[kind ginkgo]

Depends

Arguably v1 better for solos and V2 for trios

I recommend checking DunkingDonuts' stream if u need infos about tarka

[kind ginkgo]

Don't quote me on this tho, I'm no tarka expert

[rocky dove]

[magic hinge]

Dunkin runs V2 in solos

so does hwq from CN

but all NBPL ran fireball v1 so idk

[kind ginkgo]

Ty for correcting.👍👍

[true marsh]

ok

[teal flicker]

can anyone fill this out? https://tiermaker.com/create/naraka-solos-heroes-feb-2025-16490846 i am curious to know who is "best" hero rn and who is the most fun for you i would appreciate it very much

[red brook]

.

[wispy kite]

what are best duo comps that dont have kurumi

[slate sierra]

shayol valda, viper tessa, valda zai or tarka for burn/soak interaction

not really able to rate them from best to worst but these are common pairings i see

ooh and zip kylin

[pine minnow]

?

oh

I read that as rip kylin at first lmao

[wispy kite]

my friend likes to play wuchen, lyam and cyra, are there any characters I could play to synergize with his character

[kind ginkgo]

in duos nothing really specific , no 🤔

[magic hinge]

Cyra Zai can be pretty good

Viper lyam is also fun

Wuchen, idk just go crazy and pick something insane too

[slate sierra]

Shayol Cyra can work as well, as long as Cyra doesn’t use the charged beam attack you won’t grief the shayols V1 grabs

Wuchen Tessa also works, impossible to get orb if Tessa ult lands

You could also go kidnap comp with Lyam Pokeball and Wuchen V1 but it’s very troll LOL you pokeball and then port away and kill whoever you stole while their teammate is too far away to do anything about it 😅

[supple schooner]

so i just found out you can kinda raw dragon wuchen's ult with duals and katana/hengsword
not sure if that's already known, can be extended somehow or has any practical value at all
thought i'd share anyway 🤷‍♂️

[kind ginkgo]

well, if you manage to get it after a double uppercut this could be good 👍

[native bane]

smb got an idea for a feria glyph page for duo/trio?

[kind ginkgo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnbxhDbvuNM

[native bane]

ty forgot that exists

[kind ginkgo]

np

it's not up to date as penemue said, but it should help nonetheless

[native bane]

@kind ginkgo you prolly dont know if ferias mech pillar gives the damage reduction if u dont enter the mech do you?

[kind ginkgo]

it shouldnt i think , but i never specifically tryed it so i could be wrong

[native bane]

mhh

[native bane]

asked fallen, it applies to her using the pillar, so if any1 asks now we know^^

[kind bluff]

I'm kind of new to the game and I wanted to know if there is any trick to landing the dash of Justina's first ult like some sound queue I need to wait for to cancel the dash and begin the combo or is it pure muscle memory?

[kind ginkgo]

reaction

the sec you attack you cancel the dash

meaning that you need to learn the timings to interrupt as soon as you hit

[kind bluff]

So just practice I guess it's just tough I have awful ping and fps

100+ ping and around 120fps I think

[little cargo]

the ping could be the problem, but it is also tough starting out on character like Justina

tbh, for someone played Justina with around 60fps, I just developed some what of a muscle memory, like I estimate the distance and input dodge after I feel like I hit the distance rather than react

[kind ginkgo]

fps are more than food

good*

[kind bluff]

Yeah but the 100 ping feels so bad at times I can't even practice combos properly against the bot in the range

I'm starting to get the distance to cancel it's not perfect I'm always a bit late but it's good enough for at least a free charge attack

[kind ginkgo]

for combos i'd say that above 65 ping is all weird terrain

and even at above 60 you can already feel the difference

wouldnt recomment it personally

[empty swallow]

after dashing a hundred times and cancelling it, you just get a feel for it

i'd say it's the most consistent way to do it

when you know how far you go with each timing by heart

start by just trying to do it on reaction, and experiment then, see how accurate you can get it, and then get consistent with it

and over time you'll just get a feel for every distance

[rocky dove]

I plea the 5th

[kind steeple]

what's good way to play shayol?

[karmic wolf]

Press ult
-mash
-do whatever the hell you want everything goes you are safe

https://tenor.com/view/sherlock-benedict-cumberbatch-hat-tip-greetings-smile-gif-4268618

[full mist]

any tips from cyra goats i also need training on my tech i mostly use great sword but working on polearm and long sword

[karmic wolf]

Ohh that is a tougher one

Press ult
-aim your enemy general direction
-mash

https://tenor.com/view/sherlock-benedict-cumberbatch-hat-tip-greetings-smile-gif-4268618

[kind ginkgo]

Sounds about right 🤔😂

[magic hinge]

fight, lose neutral - press f

run until either f or ult is ready

back again

ult - win

spam 10 blues in their face

[glacial mesa]

sounds convincing

[kind steeple]

So only hide/run and fight only when ulti and f is ready?

[kind ginkgo]

u play it as any character, just f is your way to break out of combos

and ult is simply a strong fighting tool

like zai ult pretty much

[kind steeple]

I started with Yoto but she was too hard and switched to Shayol and been playing her since, never tried other characters yet

[true jackal]

Loose great sword (my opinion)

Use f1 for better mobility

Always have ult and rage build up and at the ready

Always be dodging

Neutral combos

[full mist]

f1 ?

[true jackal]

I think I use her ability one

It’s the one where you throw the orb and glide away

And it heals or stuns anyone around ya

[full mist]

oh first ability

[little cargo]

It is a combo breaker, which is the most important part lmao

[little cargo]

Ability is binded to F and ultimate is binded to V on PC, so we generally called it as that, F for ability, V for ultimate, but we usually use it with number to indicates which variant of ability/ultimate

[true jackal]

I mean true but they didn’t ask about that

They were asking tech for cuts

Cyra

But ok lol

[little cargo]

cuts

Why my sellpy head think that hilarious

[little cargo]

Worth it to mentioned too

[karmic wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-delonge-blink182-wtf-meme-what-the-heck-first-date-gif-25383351

[true jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/timbersshivered-yikers-gif-23072365

[karmic wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/i-said-the-same-thing-sistas-s4e14-i-agree-i-thought-so-too-gif-26086925

[wraith frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/brexby-brexby-cat-gif-24550771

[drifting ore]

Needed this

[dense ember]

does anyone know any good overrall guide for the game as a whole?

I have 60 hours and I have the basics down but yeah, I'm talking for something more advanced to be able to have a chance against the chinese players lmao

[kind ginkgo]

Work on the basics

If you lose fights usually it's because Ur neutral and hold checking need more work

[lost dagger]

I'll link you some guides in dms. You can also join the weekly dojo, it's a free coaching event i host in the server. Just pick up the dojo role if u want to get notified of announcements

[empty swallow]

ye

i send

[dense ember]

Thank you guys ❤️

[wind dagger]

Hi, can someone help me decide which character I should play between wuchen and kylin? I like them both the same
so who do you guys think is better for ranking up and learning how to play? (I play solos and right now im plat 1)

[empty swallow]

both good

wuchen easier

https://youtu.be/otP69BwbKss

if you want a good example of how to use him

[wind dagger]

ty, and I have another question what F ablity should I use with both of them?

[empty swallow]

i don't play wuchen

you can just copy him

[wind dagger]

okey, thx, and kylin?

[empty swallow]

for solos you definitely want V2 on wuchen

F i don't know

i don't play kylin either, but if I did I would use the combo breaker and F1 because that one can't accidentally kill you

[wind dagger]

thanx

[wind dagger]

Why do people prefer takedas f3 instead of f2? It looks like a worse version of f2

[olive sun]

you can chain F3 into ult activation which makes enemy airborne for combos
F2 can't do that

[wind dagger]

so that's all? Is it really worth it to loose the healing and disarm?

and another question, whats better for tarka, v1 or v2, in solos

[olive sun]

takeda can do TOD with his ult so in high level gameplay if your combo breaker is on cd and you got caught by him you will be dead

[olive sun]

v2

[kind ginkgo]

You don't need healing if you can kill someone from a single interaction

[scarlet dew]

they did big buff to f2 recently tho

they made it gold focus

so i think f3 is obsolete now

before f2 biggest problem was u could get staggered by light attack mid-animation

so it was extremely risky

[kind ginkgo]

Yep, this is a huge buff

[little cargo]

F3 still provides knockback against opponents who aren't in blue focus. F2 kinda just don't do much sometimes

F2 can extend combo and such but sometimes I hit people with it and I am animation lock while they aren't

[warped sleet]

What character skills work well with dual halberts?

[kind ginkgo]

Depends what you consider by working well 🤔

If u mean comboing well, this considers all the skills that combo with any other weapon

It's important to know that dual blades and halberds are not really combo weapons, so your possibilities are limited

[warped sleet]

What are good combo weapons

[warped sleet]

I use takeda, temulch and akos
ho

[kind ginkgo]

Long sword,katana Heng sword

And technically knives, but less

[tropic pond]

should i play more zai or yoto hime

which one is better for 2v2 and who should i pair them with

[toxic herald]

Hello everyone, i had a couple questions as a new player if you could help me i would appreciate it, what skills do people use on kylin? i find myself liking the combo breaker skill and the first ult but i see a lot of people using the other one and i dont understand why, the first one seems more straight forward. also would u consider him to be a hero that heavily depends on combos?

[wind dagger]

Whats a good glyph page for tarka in solos?

[lost dagger]

the pinned video should have a good one for tarka. you generally want stamina and rage

getting grapple distance is useful

[wind dagger]

but is it up to date? Cause that video was made before tarka rework no?

[lost dagger]

yes but he essentially has the same playstyle. there may be a slightly more optimal way to build him, which I'm not too sure of. I'd recommend asking someone that mains tarka, like dunking donuts on his stream for example

[empty swallow]

zai is the better character in general but yoto should be getting buffed soon

[empty swallow]

the other skill is a combo extender

i recommend combo breaker

[tropic pond]

Thanks
By soon do you mean the 2nd july update?

[empty swallow]

no ideaa

they just told us they're gonna do something to her

[tropic pond]

Alright thank you coach

[little cargo]

F1 V1 (the version you use) is consider the most stable for Kylin since it provides you a combo breaker if you made mistake, a V that is good. F2 is a combo extender but I wouldn't call him a combo character. V2 is like a noob trap with healing, might work if fighting in group but it is not strong and if use wrong depleted your own hp.

You can use F2 if you are confident with your neutral but F1 is an old reliable.

[empty swallow]

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[tropic pond]

Oooo sensational

Thanks again coach

[toxic herald]

thank u sm

[late topaz]

Is there an updated tier list of characters so I can understand what's good?

Im looking for a high damaging/dps character that corresponds well with sm like katana or greatsword or sm.

[empty swallow]

tarka for greatsword

katana can work great on him too

the other damage characters just use ultimate weapons

besides matari

[fickle lantern]

Hi there, any guide, keylist combo sequece for Matari

[kind ginkgo]

Not that I know of atm

[empty swallow]

treat the F dash ability as a combo starter basically, so long as it's not the gold variant

that's how i use it and it's enough to win

[kind ginkgo]

Plus combo extender also

If you aim it downwards right after an uppercut u can fit another one

[terse crag]

Any guides for Takeda? I figured that I can use his ultimate’s F (v1) to stop parrying and land a focus attack, and use his regular f1… couldn’t understand his f3 and ended up never using his f2 in battle.. his v2 is the most flashy one, and basically a panic button… am I getting it right?

[olive sun]

v2 is a noob trap, don't run it

[kind steeple]

are there any differences between Feria Shen Mech Ultimate?

the one summon using Bacon and the normal one

[olive sun]

alot

V1 can only be used on yourself, V2 your teammate could take the mech, V2 beacon drop is also a cc cuz it knocks enemies hits airborne
V1 you can tap V during ultimate duration to gives your whole team a dmg reduction buff, V2 doesn't have that
V1 consume 100% rage, V2 consume 50% rage when beacon drops (you will still need to reach 100% rage to cast it) and an additional 50% if your teammate take the mech, or all of your current rage bar if you're the one who take it
also the lower hp of the beacon before summon is, the higher dmg ur summoned mech does
V1 got rage gain ban when you're on the mech, V2 doesn't rage gain ban you if someone else is on the mech
so on V2 you could drop the mech for someone else, then start farming rage again immediately for the next ult

[scarlet dew]

v2 doesnt eat all ur rage when someone takes mech

it eats 50 for dropping beacon and 50 when someone takes it

thats how sometimes ppl had double mech active

[kind steeple]

double mech?!

what about it mech itself? is both equally strong?

the damage and health scale of grade of weapons and armor?

[kind steeple]

also how much is the dmg reduction buff?

[scarlet dew]

the mechs are the same i think

[scarlet dew]

not sure how much but its not crazy

btw mech itself has 30% dmg reduction

[scarlet dew]

dmg scales from weapon rarity and mech hp scales with armor

[kind steeple]

ohh 30% dmg reduction, no wonder i was so tanky

thank you

[fickle lantern]

Thanks Bro

[native bane]

does smb know if tarka's knee hit counts like a punch(combostarter)?

[kind ginkgo]

They do, yes

It's their strong characteristic

The stagger is also quite long from what I knw

[little cargo]

F1 is auto parry, F2 and F3 works the same way but F2 has worse hitbox but if it hits, it will heal you and take your opponent weapon when they are blue; F3 is the same but you don't take your opponent weapon & don't heal, but have a lot damage reduction while using it and F3 combine with V1 will grant you a combo.
V1 is the most stable for Takeda, can't go wrong with it. V2 is a noob trap, its damage is equal to a katana blue focus and not even worth it for team combo. V3 is worse V1 but will upgrade as your team get more and more high tier weapon, at certain point it will become a better V1, V3 is mostly a trios ult.

I would recommending trying F3 for solo since it will make you more active when F is ready. However, if F1 is your comfort, go for it. A neat movement tip is F1 activation mid air will float you for a bit and keep you on the move. As for V, V1 is the best outside of full party trios, Takeda's F during V guarantee a whole combo, not only blue focus, so make use of it if you solo someone, as for team mode, use it to help your teammates out when people dogpile on them, your F during V can stagger people even during gold focus.

[terse crag]

What’s a noob trap?

[little cargo]

Super flashy, seems like really strong thing cause new players a.k.a noob to usually use it but actually pretty bad.

V2 damage is pityful, float the enemy too little to pull off meaningful combo with your teammates, can be avoid if the enemy see it coming

[empty swallow]

yes don't fall for the v2 trap

it looks sick but it's so bad

easy to dodge and even if it hits, bad damage

[wild igloo]

Is Shayol Wei any good? She seems nice and I kind of want her

[olive sun]

she's ok

[kind steeple]

what heros are good for 2v2? low skills require

[kind ginkgo]

You could say that any hero works in 2v2 🤔👍

The required skill is mostly on the game basics, not the hero itself 🤔👍

[magic hinge]

Shayol

[manic burrow]

shayol/ kylin / valda / Ziping (F2, V1)

[modest sorrel]

Any glyphs for Lannie guys?☺️
Thank you

[kind ginkgo]

#🙎┃character-guides message

This might help

[stone jungle]

What glyphs would I use on matari. The vid says that blue glyphs are good but I never felt that I had bad loot or needed discounts at shops etc

The basic green and red?

[random sinew]

kurumi

[kind ginkgo]

basic green red is good 👍

Blue ones are usually just for team modes such as trios since they give discounts,... 👍

(I wouldn't personally take them in that situation either for matari, since she's more of a dps and likes her abilities 🤔)

[lost dagger]

Agree^

[lost dagger]

Although i run purple, but don't follow me. I just find it fun, red and green is optimal especially if you aren't getting a lot of parries or picking up soul blooms

[kind ginkgo]

I do also run purple 😂😂

[lucid river]

hi

[twilit tartan]

Is there a way to use F2 only on yourself when playing with zipping? Looking down in the middle of a fight can't be a solution.

[kind ginkgo]

Exactly doing that (looking down and casting)

It will go to the closest target

[dreamy harbor]

It is the only solution

[gusty talon]

How do I time Matari F to do a focused strike?

[kind ginkgo]

Wym by that?

[wind dagger]

Hi, is there a tarka ji combo in which you can start katana infinite without previously being in ult?

[kind ginkgo]

no, not anymore

i think

he had a raw dragon start (uppercut into ult into chase) , but they patched out that specific kind of combo a few patches ago

[olive sun]

isn't it they just remove raw dragon for some characters not all of them?

[kind ginkgo]

justina cant anymore, lyam neither

so i figure they removed all of them 🤔

also matari can't anymore

[olive sun]

i see

[nocturne cliff]

I’m newer to the game, what characters should I look into for primarily solo and duo

[olive sun]

frankly speaking all of them works, except maybe tianhai/yueshan/kurumi in solo

[kind ginkgo]

especially since you are a new player i would recommend just testing them out in practice tool and pick whoever you think looks cool / you feel like you like playing

at the beginning the hero choice does not really matter 👍

as long as you have fun playing

[scenic frost]

Hello

[kind ginkgo]

Hello, how many we help?

[wind dagger]

Oh that’s sad, thanks

[finite burrow]

How many we don’t know yet 🫣🙈

[kind ginkgo]

How may we help****

[kind steeple]

what weapons/abilitiy can hit shayol when she ulti?

[kind ginkgo]

Ranged weapons

[lost dagger]

her shield activates when she gets staggered. so anything that doesn't stagger will do damage without activating it. when her shield is up it blocks all damage and will keep refreshing on each hit. she gets up to 3 shields and each time its activated she gets a shield toss

[stone jungle]

I dont think u can tbh. Maybe if you do a grapple combo and instead of hitting the grapple or the following air strikes u could try weaving the F in? Dont think that get enough stagger and/or recover fast enough to give them a charged attack tho

[stone jungle]

Its a combo opener tho

[gusty talon]

Focused into f

Her ult

[stone jungle]

Wait what

U mean holding focused teleporting?

[gusty talon]

Yah

[stone jungle]

Ou

jus hold your charge then press V to teleport behind them and release

idk if thats what you mean

[gusty talon]

So can't do it with f but can do with v?

[kind steeple]

does focus attack count as stagger?

[lost dagger]

If it hits them and doesn't clash or get parried, yes. One strategy is to force out all 3 shields as soon as possible, then try to rush her down. The other strategy is to disengage and try not to activate her shields at all

[lost dagger]

What are you trying to do?

[kind steeple]

how to force her shields

she keep blocking melee attacks forever and when she throw shield i get cc and combo to death by her teammate

[gusty talon]

Matari doing focus charge w/tp

[lost dagger]

You stagger her to activate it. Then stop attacking so it goes down, if you attack while her shield is up it will block the attack and get refreshed

[lost dagger]

The tp is something from her v2. It lets her teleport behind oponenets. She can teleport while charging focus or f

[kind steeple]

if i stagger her, then she can throw me the shield thing and cc me

and that i dont want 😭

[olive sun]

you can dodge the shield throw

or simply run away from her and wait for her ult to be over

[kind ginkgo]

It's pretty easy to dodge 🤔👍👍

[kind steeple]

hard to dodge when you're getting staggered by other person 😭

maybe in 1v1

[kind ginkgo]

That's another thing

But if it's more than 1 person, run away when they ult and come back after 30 sec

They won't have it anymore

[nocturne perch]

hello\

[iron saddle]

hello

[stone jungle]

What skills shopuld I use on kurumiu in duos?

[kind ginkgo]

#🙎┃character-guides message

[stone jungle]

ah ty

[kind ginkgo]

np

[wind dagger]

Guys, after succesfully using takedas f2 are you able to use a blue focus? cause sometimes I can and sometimes I can't

[vast tulip]

I needed this badly thanx

[vast tulip]

hello

when a new hero will come?

[nocturne cliff]

August

[kind ginkgo]

Not on the f2 stagger

Too short

[vast tulip]

thnx .. exciting

[kind steeple]

how does Viper V2 works exactly?

how much does it heals?

[kind ginkgo]

Depends

A lot kind of

But it's over time, not brust

Burst*

[kind steeple]

does it heals more per target or same no matter how many i hit

[lost dagger]

I think the heal is a fixed amount, but I could be wrong

you can test it in free training if u want. there's a way to spawn 2 bots, u can test if there's any difference

[kind ginkgo]

Should be fixed

[kind steeple]

how do i spawn more bots?

what does this do?

i have full points in them and when i take hit from bot i still get +6% of rage

so it didnt generate extra rage

[karmic wolf]

its +11%

so if 6 is default

+11%

you are getting plus decimals

+.6 assuming is exactly 6 what you are getting normally

[kind steeple]

the other one say +0% i assume its typo, 11% + 11% i am not sure if its additive or not but shouldnt i be getting like 1% extra?

[karmic wolf]

not sure what the +{0} means here

[kind steeple]

this

[karmic wolf]

Oh yes I see it

I just have no idea what it means, sorry

haha

[olive sun]

bruh they still haven't fixed that typo?

[kind ginkgo]

It's a typo

It's the same as the first node on that side

Same stats and everything

[kind steeple]

when i play training it feels useless increase but in ranked somehow i feel like my ultimate gets full much faster

weird

[kind ginkgo]

Cuz in game you get hit 🤔

That tree gives you more rage per hit taken, not per dmg dealt

For that it's the other side

[kind steeple]

yes i mean i was letting the bot hit me with same focus attack to measure rage generation

it goes up constant by 6%

with and without the glyph, i exit training and rejoin each time i switch glyphs

fun part is after 4th focus atk i considered myself dead already because my hp gets reset to full

[jagged patio]

For zai where can you find the ensnared soul number or bar

[jagged patio]

Thank you also I removed the flame ring apperance but it still shows in game, I selected none but is there somewhere else I have to change it

[olive sun]

you mean the accessory that changes your ultimate visual effect?

need to apply the one that you want in here

[jagged patio]

Yeah that

[nocturne cliff]

Viper Ning's abilities look to have been changed, does anyone have the updated suggestions for each queue?

[kind ginkgo]

Check pinned comments 👍👍

[kind steeple]

i dont understand why the other character did not get hit by my stun and the second part when focus attack gets canceled when i atk into sand storm?

[earnest star]

I guess it was the Jade he had. Dont know what its called in english. :(

[lost dagger]

Yup

Phantom step

Makes you invis, breaks LOS on viper ult

Also walking through temmy ult will force you into that animation. You can't attack through it

[earnest star]

Ahh yes, that was it

But for example you can Counter Tessa like that too, yeah? And with Temulch F u can also counter such stuff?

[lost dagger]

For tessa ult you need to i-frame it with a dodge or ability that has i-frames.

[lost dagger]

And yes. Temmy f and also matari f1, kurumi teleport, can all break los and avoid viper stun if timed correctly

[kind steeple]

i thought viper ultimate would reveal even invisible 😦

i think there was another heroes i met like once, she made everyone invisible i think

[lost dagger]

That's matari. Her v1 turns her team invis for 12 seconds, it's the best counter to viper.

But tbh if you run viper's other ultimate that silences, plus her f that silences, you don't have to worry about abilities that counter you as long as you stick on them

[kind steeple]

i need stun people to kill them 🥺

the other ultimate doesnt seem to stun people

are there any other abilities that cancel Viper's ultimate?

[kind steeple]

i've seen me getting enchanted/dazzing thing and my ulti never went off

[lost dagger]

No but it silences and at the end does a stagger. If you and your duo rush someone down there is nothing they can do

[kind steeple]

my skills not good enough to combo people during short stagger

5 sec stuns barely enough for me to run and setup combo hahahahaha

[lost dagger]

you will learn with time

Imo better to practice and learn than crutch on the easier one. But it's up to you

[kind steeple]

without stun i can only hide :c

i dont even know how people find me

[kind ginkgo]

go fight instead

u need to work on the hold checking

🤔

those two are bots btw by the look of things

the one grappling you on the tree is a player

[earnest star]

But you can chase them with v2 like normal. Even i can pull that off

Even tho my Movement is sometimes so damn shitty haha

[kind steeple]

they have 8kills each

i already got killed by the guy in yang

[kind ginkgo]

👍

[kind steeple]

there was 4 people fighting in front and then they came from behind

i didnt want to fight middle of them hahaha

[kind steeple]

i die in 1 sec if i try fight people

[kind ginkgo]

one can only improve by trying 🤔 👍

first time 1 sec, second 2 sec, third 3 sec,... 👍

[kind steeple]

survival time, it actually decrease each time my rank increase 😭

[kind ginkgo]

cuz u need to build up the skills step by step

it's (imo) better to learn by fighting and trying than gain levels and ranks while just hiding. it's going to hurt more in the long run

[earnest star]

normal i guess

I just hit Astral in Solos yesterday. First round was a Takeda like stepping just there. I thought hell yeah this guy is dead now, cause i thought he was afk

Dude just obliterated me in this small house ive never seen before

Wanted do uninstall fr

[kind steeple]

i can relate 100%

[kind steeple]

hard to build skills getting run down by 8000 score people 2000hours

have to be similar in level to practice, when the gap are too big its not practice (just imo from all other games=

i have 30 hours in matches and 170 hours total in naraka so far, addiction is real this game

[kind ginkgo]

Ever considered doing customs?

They help a great deal for hold checking and fighting in general

[kind steeple]

customs?

like training moide?

[kind ginkgo]

Nop

Custom rooms

Like custom matches 1v1,...

[kind steeple]

oh thank you, i should give it a try

joining random room

[kind ginkgo]

👍

Just look the rules imposed for each and you are good to go

[kind steeple]

rules?

[rocky briar]

Yk like parry before initiating or no 3rd parties so u won't be annoying

[slate sierra]

Yeah just don’t get in the way of anyone else’s fight & always parry before starting to fight someone

Some rooms will have ults disabled or even f skills too depending what you join

[slow kettle]

Hello i wantet to ask what is the best way to play wuchen?

It would be great to get some tips

[kind ginkgo]

depends, in a solo environment or team mode'

?

[empty swallow]

you are red and white and you are moving so your steps make noise

i recommend u use the 2nd ult

[little cargo]

tbh, fighting people on the same level will not help you improve much outside your feel for the game and your mental fortitude, which is important don't get me wrong. But to improve fast and not feeling like you have no chance, you will have to deal with people better than you and ask them where did you go wrong, what are your options during that time for example.

Losing and being obliterated is a part of this game, but you can learn a lot from people who just destroyed you

If possible, find someone in this discord who is ready to help you, ask them for a custom match and train you.

As for what you can do, try to see what they are doing, guess their next move. Don't rush on winning, dealing damage. Take it slow, accept failure and learn from it.

[kind steeple]

Yeah I need to do custom more often, practice parry on bot are too easy

But gettinh the feeling and timing when i can and not dodge after stagger/cc is kinda hard

Spamming buttons for faster input does not help because it may trigger for example double dash 😭

I dont know what to do

[kind ginkgo]

Best hint is to try and keep your cool when foghting

You know that after 3 hits or that after hitting the ground you are out of any combo

Work around that, delay dodge timing, focus instantly, directional dodge to get away,...

You need to think as your enemy, what are they going to do?

If you simply mash it's really easy to catch you when youn try to get oit

Out*

[little cargo]

It is worse, spamming will actually rubberband you or put you into situation you cannot win

[kind steeple]

I panic the moment people jump on me

[kind ginkgo]

That's why it's good to fight a lot

With time you will be more calm

Just try to force yourself at the beginning, decide a point to work on and focus on that

It will get automatic with time

[kind steeple]

Bad habit from league of legend spamminh buttons for faster input 🥹

[little cargo]

I have a weird tip for you, whenever you panic, hold till stage 2 focus attack.

It is not the best option, but 2 seconds of blue focus will make you calm down

At the same time you checking your opponent reaction

[kind steeple]

When i hold to second they always hit me before i release

[little cargo]

Always you said

[kind steeple]

9 out of 10 as far as i remember

[little cargo]

If they always hit you with 1st focus when you hold, parry on 1st

That depended on the opponent

But an interaction can tell you a lot about your enemy

Gather that information to deal with them

[kind steeple]

But the thing is i see their animation of release and i press parry, my character doing the parry animation but i still get hit

[little cargo]

You cannot react a lot of blue focus due to lag

Only a couple of blue focuses are reactable and usually based on distance

[kind steeple]

So no reaction parry and only go fpr prediction parry and pray?

[little cargo]

Yeah, quote Takao "Parry is a callout"

You 90% sure opponent will release at that time then parry

[kind ginkgo]

Yep

[little cargo]

@kind steeple also another thing, try to play around with dodge more

[kind ginkgo]

Parry is an aggressive callout; either you predict and risk or you dodge, which is the safer option

[little cargo]

Get a feeling of range of each weapon too

[kind ginkgo]

Dodge is your strongest weapon

[kind steeple]

I always fail dodge

When i want to hold vs tap

😭😭🥹

[kind ginkgo]

It takes practice

[little cargo]

Yep

[kind ginkgo]

The learning curve in naraka is insanely steep

But every small improvement has an enormous impact on your gameplay

[little cargo]

Just because you're not doing it now doesn't mean you cannot do it ever

[kind ginkgo]

Yep, well said

[little cargo]

Hey, since he is EU, @kind ginkgo whenever you and Yuki has a training session, maybe invite him XD

[kind ginkgo]

It's been a while since I coached anyone 🤔, I've not been playing much this past season due to a lot of things

Hopefully I can start again today. 🤔😂😂

[little cargo]

Yeah, I only picked up Naraka a couple of day since I am more free

[kind ginkgo]

Same

And tarka got nerfed

[little cargo]

I'm fine with it

[kind ginkgo]

👍👍

Same

I was waiting for it

[kind steeple]

Next year, i hope

[kind ginkgo]

It does not take that much 🤔👍

[kind steeple]

I play like 200 hours alreafy and still going nowhere

[kind ginkgo]

this is because u need method 👍

take it step by step, there is no need to try and learn all at the same time

[little cargo]

Not that long. The more you rush, the slower you learn

You just need the power of friendship to enjoy the game

[kind ginkgo]

[little cargo]

Push yourself to improve but don't beat yourself down for not doing good

You learn better if you enjoy the process, you stay calmer if you enjoy the fight, you fight better if you simply enjoy the game.

[lost dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-matter-dont-care-peaceful-laid-back-zen-life-gif-11841640

[kind steeple]

The game is only fun when enemy get stunned and i get polesword 3 charge in 🥰

[vague pebble]

[kind steeple]

should i use v1 or v2 Tessa's ultimate?

[lost dagger]

v1

[lethal shell]

does anyone have feria trios glyphs

[slow kettle]

I normally play team

[tropic pond]

is tessa mostly good when playing with people or also in solo ? in quick match

i mostly play solo and wonder if she's good at this

[chrome cliff]

in quick match it doesn't matter what you play as since it's not a competitive mode

in ranked, tessa isn't strong in solos

in trios, it's currently unclear what her role is

wuchen is banned in trios, and since tessa is commonly paired with viper and wuchen, that comp isn't played at the moment

[kind ginkgo]

He's banned?

[kind steeple]

why is wuchen banned?!

[kind ginkgo]

Prolly because of ult interactions

It can stagger for the whole duration

[kind steeple]

1 ulti (2 usage) i killed a guyt with purple armor

i was literally just watching him

it was so fun

i did nothing else other than ulti

he was trying to hit me but keep getting hit by blades and he couldnt heal either

[kind ginkgo]

If you throw it on the ground instead of a hero it does an aoe that staggers

If an enemy is caught into that, for some reason, they will be stuck there, staggered all the way

[kind steeple]

sounds like a broken hero with amount of range, cc and damage

how can one have so much dmg and cc in same ability

[kind ginkgo]

He is super strong, yeah

But afaik the stagger interaction being that strong isn't intentional (on the aoe)

[little cargo]

Probably because they reuse his V from showdown

It was intended for staggering boss and deplete their aegis. They fix some but still

[kind ginkgo]

Yeah, possible

[scarlet dew]

they buffed viper too much, wuchen viper tessa comp became turbo picked to the point where it was sometimes 8 wuchen comps per lobby out of 12 teams

then these 8 viper teams were turbo teaming with each other

coz u cant tell

which wuchen used TP

and which didnt

since everybody has skins hidden

so they decided to ban wuchen

coz viper is too broken

kinda funny if u ask me

but if they banned viper quite likely nobody would play wuchen either

he is borederline useless without viper

too bad they didnt figure they could just nerf viper

unlucky i guess

[kind steeple]

you complain about viper begin overpowered meanwhile me 18 loss streaks on viper

[scarlet dew]

the V2 ult with blades raining down is absolute trash, nobody plays it in pro play in trios

[scarlet dew]

well are u playing tessa viper wuchen in trios with coordinated team?

in solos viper is trash

[kind steeple]

nope never seen tessa wuchen in my team

[scarlet dew]

viper problem is if she screws up

she ded

thats why shes played with wuchen all time

although she is OP enough to warrant picking her even without wuchen

but it becomes much more tricky

[kind steeple]

does viper v2 slience enemy at end of the thing or does it also slience during the duration?

[scarlet dew]

both

when it pops it silences for 4s

and while the tether is active it also silences

however if they break tether like going behind tree for a split second

they can use abilities again

[kind ginkgo]

She also played with valda

And telmuch

[kind ginkgo]

Viper V2 silences during the ult and also does not let the enemy grapple

[scarlet dew]

only when wuchen is banned

if wuchen is not banned, she will be basically perma played with wuchen

except some rare exceptions when teams are really starved with hero points

[kind ginkgo]

Just because of his teleport on ilt

Get in with the ult nearly finished and stun, or get out if fail

[scarlet dew]

i mean yeah viper problem is she is mega dead if she makes mistake

so wuchen is perfect hero to alleviate this issue

[kind ginkgo]

This goes for all characters without combo breakers TBF 🤔👍

But yeah, I am totally of the same opinion

Wuchen has a really strong synergy with her

[scarlet dew]

i mean typically viper will go early with the ult

trying to kill target

if it fails

[kind ginkgo]

Yeah

[scarlet dew]

then probably she will have 2-3 people with ults

on her

like if she tries to kill kylin

and fails

kylin just gonna ult and now he is both unkillable + a big threat

and viper is left with nothing

most heroes will at least have some extra charges of ult

or special attacks if its duration based ult

like tarka or something

[kind ginkgo]

Now we got buffed yoto coming into the meta tho 🤔🤔

That stoneform is gonna be insane against zai's and kylins

[tawny anchor]

How did she get so much health back after I broke her shields with a shield bash??

[kind ginkgo]

Mortal defiance jade

[tawny anchor]

It wasn't cause I was literally using it 😭

I got robbed

[kind ginkgo]

Looked to me like a mortal defiance

Another possibility is the red jade, but I need to be in Predoria for it to spawn

[tawny anchor]

I'm using immortal defiance myself in that clip u can see when it procs and gives me back that little ahh health lol

Wtf I'm supposed to do with that amount I couldn't even take a hit with that

[kind ginkgo]

I knw

[tawny anchor]

Bro I need answers. I'm gonna make this my goal for the week. I had that fight dead to rights

[kind steeple]

should you use ultimate when you know you can kill enemies or use it to kill them faster?

[lost dagger]

depends on the situation but usually no, better to save it.

although killing the enemies sooner has benefits too. less risk of third party or having them get a chance to get ultimate and turn the fight

[little cargo]

Big note: He main Viper

[lost dagger]

generally you ult early as viper so the silence stops them from getting a chance to fight back

a lot of vipers engage fights with ult

or you f to engage, then ult when the silence runs out, then f after the ult silence is over. and its like 18 seconds silence

[kind steeple]

i dont know which is better f1 or f2

[lost dagger]

silence one generally

[kind steeple]

i also used my ultimate but there was someone who using their abilities still

her health became like green

[slate sierra]

Viper ult isn’t instant, it takes a second or so for the channel to attach to enemies which unfortunately makes it able to be reacted to. Enemies can (and usually do) pop their ults as an instant response to viper ult.

[kind steeple]

but isnt viper ulti slience them?

[slate sierra]

Yes, but as I said it takes a second or two for the silence to hit them, and in those seconds they can ult

If you silence F first and then chain it perfectly into ult they can’t

Also viper ult doesn’t stop people from using certain things if they are able to ult in reaction. For example, if Zai gets her ult off she can use all her chain scythe attacks despite the silence channel (though she cannot use F). But against characters like Justina or valda, who when they ult part of their ult gets put onto their F ability, those characters don’t get to use their ult to its full potential if they’re stuck in range of the viper ult

Same with Cyra, if she gets her ult off she can use every part of it (damage beam, and dazzle orbs) even while being silenced. Since those parts of her ult are tied to horizontal/vertical attack instead of an F or V ability

[kind steeple]

oh

thank you!

[kind steeple]

my PC too bad to always record gameplay to show such moments rip

[hexed crane]

any glyphs for reworked yoto?

solos

[kind ginkgo]

Same as old yoto should do

Or u can try with zai ones

Since her ult is pretty strong now

[tropic pond]

Okay so only paired with wuchen and viper thank you coach

Out of curiosity are there different ways to use yoto's new ult or just spam lmb/rmb and V

[umbral monolith]

im a bit late to the party here but couldnt it be the yang soulbloom essence thing?

the one that you get by capturing the yang well

[kind ginkgo]

Afaik it does not Res? 🤔

I might be wrong tho

[umbral monolith]

think it does

[kind ginkgo]

It should give some sort of healing on dmg done, but not instant Res 🤔

[umbral monolith]

pretty sure its a quasi mortal defiance

[kind ginkgo]

@empty swallow u know anything?

[umbral monolith]

it surely heals back, but also gives you a res

[kind steeple]

what are kurumi weakness?

they always low and suddenly full hp, even when i slience they manage to survive with 1hp and slience run off and they heal full

[little cargo]

Her weakness is she is quite vulnerable without her teammates in team mode. In 1v1, her kit is just her handicap herself, she needs to relied on her neutral to win the fight basically

Her heal is really good but she doesn't had any abilities that can get her out of jail once she got caught

[kind steeple]

i knock her up then she disappeared somewhere

[little cargo]

If she has her F out (the link), she can combo break you

[kind ginkgo]

No self sustain, no combo starter not breakers, fully dependant on her neutral but gets bypassed by other characters that have any ability

Her only strength in solo is the ult, once that one is done she's also done

(let's add another weakness, she can't attack when being attached to the umbrella,)

[kind steeple]

she always hugging her teammate and run

and her teammate always hit me when i hit her

[kind ginkgo]

Sounds like a team game 🤷🏻‍♂️😂😂

PROTECT THE SUPPORT!!!!

[lost dagger]

You can charge for stoneform, horizontal and vertical charge do different attacks. You can charge vertical in the air. Reactivating when the bar fills up does a wide slash that has ult focus and restores a good chunk of hp.

I'm still trying to learn the best way to use her ult myself

[tropic pond]

Thank you coach

[tropic pond]

Please tell me if you find new things

[empty swallow]

let me take a look

[empty swallow]

That is mortal defiance

Just because you have mortal defiance doesn't mean she doesn't

It's an high rarity random drop not a unique drop

It always recovers 500 hp as a baseline

As for why she recovered that much, she probablly had some other obscure effect lol

like this

or something else that healed her in combat a little on top of 500

and why it was a little sliver for you - you probably had extra hp jades so 500 is a smaller fraction of your total hp bar

[nocturne cliff]

For Trios, what position would you guys say Lannie is in?

[empty swallow]

the trash bin

she's not for trios i say

[nocturne cliff]

LOL oh

[nocturne cliff]

Is she fine for duos you think? Or more solo oriented.

[kind ginkgo]

Duos anything work TBF 🤔👍

But she is pretty strong since duos is solos with additional steps kind of 🤔

(her ult synergizes well to layer cc)

[nocturne cliff]

Gotcha. Lannie is my main but my friends just started playing so we're looking to structure our game plan a little more.

Is there a material we have that mentions more comps?

[slate sierra]

Lannie isn’t really played in trios ever

[kind steeple]

how can the viper use F during stagger into parry?

nvm i think he use F already at first hit

[little cargo]

yeah he is

The gold outline shows as your hit connects

[kind steeple]

yea he dodge back, used F during my first hit, slience me during second hit and third hit he parry

[little cargo]

Exactly like this XD

[kind steeple]

omg

i will try this vs polesword spammer

[little cargo]

you don't even need to do this if you predict them trying to release

The biggest benefit of this is enemy is silence so your counter attack will not get combo break

[kind steeple]

yes, no chance for them to use combo breaker or ulti if they did not die

sounds op

[little cargo]

Still this is more off prediction rather than reaction tbh

[kind steeple]

i mean if they do not release i lose nothing

[clever wasp]

Hi

[little cargo]

If they overhold it you go back to they holding stage 3, you are in neutral, back to guessing game.

And you just lose your silence F isn't it?

[little cargo]

You can pseudo extend the duration of Yoto V1 by holding when it almost run out. Your V will only run out if you move or release

You can also toothpick with her lmao

Also since her can charge mid air, she can just fly now

Like Kylin

[kind ginkgo]

She dodge, used her f on the second and parried the third. Her f is a gold focus soft combo break, meaning that she can use it to get out and tank some things

[little cargo]

She used her F to tank the first 2 hits

[kind ginkgo]

This is crazy

[little cargo]

Check frame by frame and you can see the gold outline on the first hit

[kind ginkgo]

U are right 🤔👍

Mb

[tawny anchor]

How can I do this movement on console?!

[kind ginkgo]

After any attack done in the air your jump resets

Or after every dash

I don't recall exactly

But it's the same as computer, just translate it to console keybinds 🤔👍

[tawny anchor]

Okay but I'm having trouble with activating the second jump immediately like show here

[kind ginkgo]

What weapon are you using to do it?

[tawny anchor]

Twin blades

[kind ginkgo]

u mean dual blades?

it should be pretty forgiving then

he part you are missing is probably the dash one

that one requires some precision

it's just a matter of trying to attack, dash, jumjp

try them separately and then try to close the gap in between things more and more

[tawny anchor]

Okay thanks

I'll practice on this

[kind ginkgo]

👍

u ot this

got*

[tawny anchor]

Just saw this and thanks for the help. I did stack hp and dmg mitigation so that means I get less return?

[empty swallow]

no u get the same flat amount

it heals 500

[left spoke]

I know she's not supposed to be played in solos but which ultimate would you guys recommend for kurumi in solos? I've been using the first skill and second ultimate because of the combo break and my glyph setup as a lot of rage generation. But I would appreciate other players opinion.

[true marsh]

Can someone explain to me what’s the difference between composite parry and quick parry?

Also what’s scissor parry?

[little cargo]

Quick parry is just a button that bind with parry, composite parry is when you press 2 attack button to parry, scissor parry is when you hold focus, before it reaches stage 1, press the other attack button while release the one you holding to parry.

tbh, I don't know the differences between them, I heard that scissor parry is faster, however I see no differences between the timing of them.

[wind dagger]

hello, whats the advantage of using kylin v2 instead of v1? It deals a lot less damage AND also uses your hp

[little cargo]

As far as I know, non, people complain about their teammates Kylin killing themselves for that reason lmao

[true marsh]

How do you press two attack buttons to parry? I can only parry by pressing G

[little cargo]

Enable it in the settings

[true marsh]

Oh thanks!

[wary onyx]

How do you get to the top with a character?

[kind ginkgo]

You mean in the hall of fame?

Play it a loooooooooot

You get a few points each match you play depending on your performance (and you can also lose them)

[wise parrot]

V2 you use to start a fight V1 you use when you about to get jump on or think you gonna die V2 punish you a lot if you miss a swing because it’s use you health to deal damage but it’s will refund the health if you hit 2 people with you swing you can increase you health to 36% using health jade to get more ultimate bar . V2 can cause chaos a lot if you fight a lot of people or fight in a tight space V2 require more skill and decision to make the most use out of its but it’s does not mean that it’s better than V1

[umbral monolith]

I think composite was faster than quick after the game released but then they changed it to make them more equal

[kind steeple]

i saw this mention on youtube video but when i try nothing happen

how do i do this faster version of parry?

[little cargo]

They are almost the same now, and no it is not really faster

[tropic pond]

how should i play tessa in teams

tail strike:trap do i use it when an ally ults

in which cases do i use it

[kind ginkgo]

V1 and f1

Same as solos

[tropic pond]

oh really ?

v2 and f2 aren't worth it ?

[kind ginkgo]

not really

low stagger and combo break is needed in trios / duos

[tropic pond]

alright

thank you coach

[peak pewter]

What is the best guide for Tessa?

[left spoke]

Anyone?

[lost dagger]

Trios Meta Team Comps (Credit to @vague sierra)

1. Shapeshifter Team

Lineup a: Tian Hai (F1V2) + Yin (F1V1) + Kylin (F1V2)

Lineup b: Tian Hai (F1V2) + Kurumi (F2V1) + Valda Cui (F2V2)

Lineup c: Tian Hai (F1V2) + Kurumi (F2V1) + Tarkaji (F2V2)

Strengths: Scales well into late game, strong at yang portal, and contesting objectives.

Weaknesses: Requires a lot of gear and souljades, hard to escape when third-partied, after transforming into the monk is easily targeted. Good at defense, weak at offense.

2. Wuchen Team

Lineup: Wuchen (F1V1) + Viper Ning (F2V2 or F1V1) + Tessa (F1V1)

Strengths: Strong in early and mid game, good at picking off isolated targets

Weaknesses: Struggles in Yang and contesting objectives. Good at offense, weak at defense.

3. Cyra Flex (F1V1)

Lineup a: Takeda(F2V3) + Telmuch(F1 , V1 Or V3)

Strengths: Lots of crowd control, good positional control in mid and late game, easy to snowball.

Weaknesses: Not overwhelmingly strong in any particular game phase, needs a lot of gear to be strong.

Lineup b: Zai (F2V2)+ Matari (F2V1)

Strengths: Extremely strong early game and in fights without V skills, doesn't need much gear. Zai provides healing reduction.

Weaknesses: Requires good coordination, hard to play against the monk. Must buy enough time to capitalize on the advantage of two offensive F skills. No escape F skill. Not good at contesting objectives.

Lineup c: Feria Shen (F2V2)+ Justina Gu (F2V1)

Strengths: No specific counter, relies entirely on individual skill. Balanced power throughout most phases. F and V skills work well together.

Weaknesses: Requires high skill level.

[lost dagger]

Updated this. Also check out the meta trios guide for some high level comps

[lost dagger]

Check the pinned guide mate

[slate sierra]

Shouldn’t Cyra be F1? I don’t ever really see anyone using the bubble it’s always her combo breaker

[lost dagger]

Maybe @vague sierra can elaborate why

[slate sierra]

NBPL has been off but pre new season it was def F1. There were a few teams that experimented with F2 earlier on after her release but before off season every Cyra was back to running F1.

[lost dagger]

Ok he is checking

Yeah ur right. He meant f1 lol

Ty for asking @slate sierra I'll edit it now

Fixed now

[kind steeple]

how do i fight Cyra as Viper?

I keep getting stunned by her

[lost dagger]

As with most ults that give a second healthbar, either burst it down with your team if you can or just disengage and wait for it to end

[kind steeple]

how much are those extra health?

like valda and crya

is it worth a purple armor? more or less?

if i destroy it does she loses her ultimate abilities?

[lost dagger]

Yes

[vague sierra]

as i know, Cyra never being countered by Viper. If Viper using ultimate V1 without silence you just can easy to using V and 3 dash to go away.

[lost dagger]

It's more than purple armor. Idk the exact amount but it's a lot

[little cargo]

Well I did a check on her exact HP, scaling

But it is in her Guide channel that got nuked after the event

I remember 4 white dual blades focus on her if she is not running any jade

6 if she runs 4 dmg reduction and 2 hp, 7 if 4 hp and 2 dmg reduction

I will test it again tomorrow if you need it

I'm insane enough to calculated Tessa exact number for her V1 so if you need a guy who go insane lenght for nothing, find me.

[lost dagger]

[dark timber]

[kind steeple]

wait is it better to use HP jade or DMG Reduction?

[compact ledge]

im bronze 3 now chat

[brittle plover]

What character is beginner friendly

[kind ginkgo]

depends on the hero you are playing

[kind ginkgo]

wp!

keep it up!

[kind steeple]

what about heros like viper or kurumi

[kind ginkgo]

dmg reduction

[lost dagger]

usually dmg reduction. 3-4 is a good place to be

[kind steeple]

Is it better 24% dmg reduc or 16% atk?

[old monolith]

@kind steeple DR

i think 16% attack is only good on heros that u can transform and dps freely

like cyra

[dark timber]

16% is good on characters with tod

If you know how to

Like lyam....

[kind steeple]

tod?

[little cargo]

Touch of death, a combo that will kill enemy even at full hp unless they have combo breaker

[tawny anchor]

So is stacking dmg mit and health good for shayol?

[kind ginkgo]

Always have some dmg boost jades

[earnest star]

Are Hp Jades worth it? I’ve been told to play 24% dmg reduction and 8% dmg boost. Or 18% reduction and 12% dmg boost. Are Hp jades really that useless, or?

Because I see no one with Hp jades besides bots actually

[kind ginkgo]

Transformers benefice from them a lot

Cuz it also empowers their ily

Ult*

[lost dagger]

Makes you more tanky so not bad option. Dr is better value but you can definitely run hp over attack if you get good utility jades

[earnest star]

Thx. I keep that in mind

[empty swallow]

valda is 2000 iiric and cyra a bit less (1 armor bar = 300)

[empty swallow]

for non transformers damage reduction is straight up better

so long as you don't have shitty armor

on shitty armor hp gives you more tankiness because math

12% of 1000 hp > 6% of a low hp+armor value

at purple armor and above dr gives u more effective health

but keep in mind health and dr mix well together, as that dr makes ur extra health worth that much more

the only thing health is objectively better against is stuff like burning damage, poison, armor pierce... and for characters like tianhai's ultimates

[little cargo]

Especially after they made each bar of the armor 300 instead of 250

[empty swallow]

yep

dr buff

[scarlet dew]

already its true at blue armor tier

not to mention DR will increase effectiveness of any healing

[empty swallow]

isnt blue armor 1900

[empty swallow]

true

[scarlet dew]

well ye 900 armor and 1000 hp

[empty swallow]

wait lets see

[scarlet dew]

u dont need to

2021 is effective hp

[empty swallow]

114 with dr

[scarlet dew]

at blue armor

[empty swallow]

120 with hp

extra effective hp

hp still a little more

[scarlet dew]

bro

u cant

calculate

dmg resistance ehp

like 1900 x 1.06

[empty swallow]

only if you plan on healing mid fight

then yea

[empty swallow]

the moment u heal once mid fight dr becomes better

[scarlet dew]

to show u more easily with extreme example

if u have 50% DR

it wont add 1900 x 0.5 = 950 ehp

it will add 1900 / 0.5 - 1900

[empty swallow]

oh you are right

that was an oversight definitely

dr is more effective than i thought

it's the other way around of what i was thinking

[scarlet dew]

ye DR is busted

[empty swallow]

50% dr is 2x hp not 50% more ye

[scarlet dew]

the only thing hp is good at

[empty swallow]

if that's what ur saying

[scarlet dew]

is against fixed dmg burn

or poison

[empty swallow]

it's not base hp x 1.5 it's base hp / (1-dr)

good correction

thanks

[scarlet dew]

also if u keep adding hp jades

they will give u less and less

[empty swallow]

yep

[scarlet dew]

while DR jades give more and more

[empty swallow]

i usually play 4x dr 2x hp if i don't have any other jades effects

[empty swallow]

or 4x atk 2x dr if i'm using a golden weapon + high dmg char or especially juggernaut

[scarlet dew]

at 24 DR even on grey armor u will outperform 48% hp

[empty swallow]

thats really crazy

i see it

[scarlet dew]

last column is just valda ult btw

u can ignore

[empty swallow]

yep i can see

[scarlet dew]

i was doing once some calc whats best for valda