🙎┃character-guides

[scarlet dew]

but it is what it is

[karmic wolf]

yeah, well thanks for the help to both of you guys, learned pretty useful stuff tonight

have a good night

https://tenor.com/view/sherlock-benedict-cumberbatch-hat-tip-greetings-smile-gif-4268618

[magic hinge]

Still can’t get enough heals with kurumi somehow

:((( im too noob in trios

[slate sierra]

Healer in trios is rough, good players and teams will be focusing you first and wanting you out of the fight. Your positioning has to be really good & your team also has to peel for you if you’re getting dogpiled on

[magic hinge]

playing with randoms and i got carried by a zai and valda

[stoic mural]

Speaking of Valda anybody got tips for her cause she has been my main for a while in this game

I use her 1st skill instead of the evasive

[magic hinge]

the combo starter?

you can shoot it pretty far

[stoic mural]

No

[magic hinge]

huh>?

[stoic mural]

Oh I thought you said as a combo starter

But yes the combo extension one

[verbal harbor]

best kurumi glyphs for duos?

[karmic wolf]

Damn, what is the FPS requirement for this?
https://youtu.be/O64dbPV7Wrk?t=192

[olive sun]

that's mobile you dum dum

[karmic wolf]

so thats why it looked weird

I thought it was some kind of official tourney interface

so that is what living on a fixed FPS world does for this game

[olive sun]

😂 wtf

even w/o all the UI you could tell straight away that it's not our naraka because there's no way you could grapple out of a spear jlmb like what the tessa did

[karmic wolf]

That is why I was asking it looked weird to me too, gosh

anyways less typing more PP changing

[karmic wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-stare-cat-staring-staring-cat-daladada-gif-23650468

Oh, if I open it on the browser it says is mobile

[ocean sphinx]

Out of curiousity (as a semi new player) how do you guys counter Temulch's ult? Everytime I fight one I am getting stun locked to heavens and unable to defend myself. The slow is PAINFUL and you cant get out. I just don't understand why its so op or am I just not noticing how to counter?

[kind ginkgo]

walk through it

or stay in the middle of it

depending on the situation

the only thing to not do is to try and walk along the ult line

[ocean sphinx]

If I walk through it then I get that stun thing where I cant dodge or anything and I just heavy punished. If the situations allows me to stay in middle in fight I do but I cant always do that

[kind ginkgo]

you either walk out, or can't do much

some abilities get you through it

[ocean sphinx]

its stupid imo is it not? to my knowledge no other ult effects you that much? the other stun ults at least give you "stun HP" so it prevents you from getting punished to much. But a good player is able to punish you for it. But with Temulch anyone at almost any skill level can just punish you for simply trying to get away lol

[kind ginkgo]

????????

telmuch ult is strong, but to be fair, you are the first person i found complaining about it being broken 🤔

controlling ults are a lot, telmuch is balanced by the fact that it does not stun you 24/7

you are detained in the circle, but you can get out with some issues

[ocean sphinx]

Yee I know, thats why I came here to find out if I am alone in my thoughts or if I truly just need to cope lol

[kind ginkgo]

it's good as a setup, but in a simple 1v1 situation it's pretty underwhelming compared to other tools that are in the game

[ocean sphinx]

Yeah in a sole 1v1 situation it isnt the best, But I have started playing a lot more trios and its insane how many temulch's there are.... Like I am not being stuck up but in solos I have a nearly 100% win rate in ranked but the moment I come accross a temulch in trios me and my team (randoms) get ROLLED

So I am trying to know if its a skill issue cause I just need to adjust to playing trios or what lol

[kind ginkgo]

in trios he is annoying, he's designed for that

he is indeed strong in there, but still feasible to play against him 👍

remember that you are in a team , and you can help each other

like peel for the one getting focused,...

[ocean sphinx]

Alright so I just need to suck it up and figure out where I am going wrong

[kind ginkgo]

yep

[ocean sphinx]

Yeah I try to do that lol but for some reason trios in Naraka almost feels like a completely different game lmao

Thanks for listening and discussing this was helpful ✌️

[karmic wolf]

I am not trio player, but he says he is playing randos, so maybe its just hard to sync up with players? i mean he is new

so probably all the randos he gets are newbies too

hard to sync up an act

[ocean sphinx]

Yeah most of them are lower levels than me

[karmic wolf]

Even with people you know you need time to adapt to each other, while getting the hang of the game

so I m just gonna imagine doing that with randos is just not possible at your levels

you all just need more experience for that

so just hang in there

haha

[ocean sphinx]

hahah yeah thank you! and youre right. Need to find me some more consistant friends to play with. Cause the concept of trios is really fun and it gives me better chance to play healer hero's. To be fair I have always been naturally better at solo gameplay in games. Thanks for the words of encouragement ❤️

[kind ginkgo]

randos are never going to sync up pretty much; thought they were playing in trios as a trio 😅

mb

[karmic wolf]

I mean at some point when you understand the game very well, you do not "Need" to sync up they will all be doing the "Right" thing so you will more or less predict their movement

[kind ginkgo]

mhh

[karmic wolf]

but that is just impossible at low levels

[kind ginkgo]

usually people that play trios alone, play trios as if it were solos

meaning that teamplay is pretty much inexistent

[ocean sphinx]

Thats bloody true lmao. Had someone yell at me on mic because they spawned on the other side of the map to me and the other guy and died instantly lmaooo

[kind ginkgo]

most people wont try to sync up with you cuz they always expect the other to do so

so it wont work most of the times

[magic hinge]

Temulch is insanely strong in a good team

Actually first time hearing a complaint Abt him though

Especially against half transformer ult like Akos, he is annoying

But I don’t think many people play Akos in trios as a comp

We usually try to disengage and reset the fight

[little cargo]

Dagger move looks weird af

[karmic wolf]

its the mobile one

[viral kiln]

how long does it take to get a second characters hero score up? seems like even if im playing at high rating low hero score, it only goes up a little, if i wanted to get anothers hero score higher (from like 1k to 3.5k+) should i just grind another mode that im lower ranked in or keep grinding my highest rank like i have been

[rocky dove]

You get more score based off lobbies rank, kills and placement

[kind ginkgo]

Ranked is the one that gives the most points and, if you are high ranked, most likely it's also going to be the only one 🤔👍

The rest is as fallen said 👍

[viral kiln]

Hmm damn, so ideally I’m grinding low rank when on low hero score

Seems like there isn’t any hero score catch up because I get the same amount of points for similar performances on a 4K hero vs 1k hero in just below asura trío lobby’s

[chrome cliff]

hero score is completely irrelevant

Just pretend it doesn't exist

I've been top1 kurumi eu and I'm currently top1 ziping eu and it doesn't influence my life in any way whatsoever

it's common sense that hero score doesn't reflect skill either

most of the time, the top1 of any character is a duo player with close to 10k average damage and a KDR below 2.0 who lives in the game and onetricks, but isn't very good at it

Probably top1 most meaningless feature in naraka

hugging a cactus is a better goal than increasing your hero rank

[devout granite]

Can a Justina main DM me to explain her with glyphs, tricks and tipps anc more?

[twilit prism]

can anyone tell me if the shayol wei buffs that are coming are significant

[olive sun]

very

[twilit prism]

for solo too? im new so i dont have anyone to play i watch some character trailers and i liked cyra and shayol, i learned that cyra just got nerferd so i wanted to learn more about shayol

[olive sun]

especially solo

current shayol sucks because people know how to poke her shield then keeping distance and dodge the V1 shield throw after, and if she doesn't throw it she lose it
but after changes she can store the shield throw stacks and use it whenever she wants to during the activate time of her V, it can be used even if you got cc'ed or staggered, its dmg got buffed, and her V now even reduce her F cd when trigger turtle block

HUGE buff

[twilit prism]

nice i can main her then o:

@olive sun as a new player is there anything i should be working towards unlocking? also any up to date guides i can watch for shayol? i have litteraly no idea how this game plays xD

[olive sun]

https://youtu.be/MZw3aPhmgiE
https://youtu.be/QEptZXEWU0g
https://youtu.be/Rduuu7Qt7JE
https://youtu.be/7vMIlhsdQuE
start with these

[twilit prism]

also are there any settings i should use to optimize gameplay?

[olive sun]

fps is very important in this game, the higher the better so for graphic settings just do whatever that gives you the highest fps possible
as for control settings:

• melee aim assist on
• auto run off
• ceiling interaction on

[twilit prism]

@olive sun btw how is cyra in solos and squads?

[olive sun]

broken in trio
solo she's solid

[twilit prism]

what did they nerf in her recently?

btw does her orb heals herself too or only her allies?

[olive sun]

don't rmb, but she's still strong tho, mostly in team modes because of her ability to peel for her teammate

[olive sun]

both

[twilit prism]

rmb with her v u mean?

[olive sun]

wdym

he orb heals any allies it hits including herself

[twilit prism]

no u said dont rmb

wdym

oh u mean remember?

[olive sun]

yeah

she's pretty much untouchable during her ult, her orbs stuns enemies, heals allies and her charged beam deals big damages + knock up targets, interrupt gold focus

[twilit prism]

are razor blades considered meele?

btw do we know when aurora treasure will be back?

[olive sun]

what's razor blade?

[olive sun]

no clue

[karmic wolf]

I've heard that if tabbie change the profile picture, aurora could be back

[olive sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1055683073506816020/1284224702201593929/pewpew.gif?=

[karmic wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-laser-dodge-ninja-gif-8718250

[tight turret]

Who is the best character of each type for solo? I mostly main support/healer and thats just Kurumi and Cyra

But I've been branching out to other characters

[rocky dove]

For solo healer go zippy

Could even branch out and try wuchen

[viral kiln]

Wuchen is better in solos than ziping I’m pretty sure

Though there are a few ziping players that do really well, it’s just a slightly different play style..notably lots of running/kiting and resetting lol gotta play the sustain game

[tight turret]

Thanks for that

[shut marsh]

whats the best build for Lannie ?

[kind ginkgo]

Good question, should be F1 V2 atm

[frosty dagger]

how do you deal with wuchen's ult once you get hit by it? i'm still getting overwhelmed by the pressure and would love some advices

[kind ginkgo]

Still too much

Either trade ults, depending on the hero, or pray

[frosty dagger]

who counters him

based on ults

the only 2 i could think of is valda and justina if using that blade ult

[shut marsh]

thankyou sm !!

[kind ginkgo]

Shayol also procs her ult when hit for example

Kylin can ignore most of it

[kind ginkgo]

Remember that in the end what you like playing the most could also be the best choice for you a lot of times

[frosty dagger]

kylin isnt rlly consistent

[kind ginkgo]

Wym by that?

Never had any problems against wuchen blades as a Kylin main 🤔🤔🤔

[frosty dagger]

does his purple focus ignore wuchen big blade?

i never rlly tried it

[kind ginkgo]

Charging state ignores small ones

But while dashing he can avoid the big one no problem

If hit it won't deal major dmg nor create too many problems in any case usually

[frosty dagger]

yea i rlly have to learn the big blade pattern

messed up ult 😭

[kind ginkgo]

There is a sound queue for when it's coming

[frosty dagger]

i barely notice it

i will check it out

[kind ginkgo]

👍

[twilit prism]

Shayol can move freely after the V1 shield is triggered, no longer restricted to stationary activation or a brief dash.

Counter now targets aerial enemies.

so did those 2 changes not make it to the live servers? T_T

[kind ginkgo]

It's posted in #1286185822835703889 👍👍

[scarlet dew]

II. Shayol Wei

1. Slightly delayed when the Skill [Shield Bash: Rush] goes on cooldown after casting.

2. Slightly delayed the point at which crouching or jumping can be used to interrupt the Skill [Shield Bash: Rush]'s attack.

3. When the Ultimates [Justiciar's Guard] or [Justiciar's Guard: Pursuit] triggers [Black Tortoise Block], Shayol's Skill's remaining cooldown is reduced.

4. When [Black Tortoise Block] is triggered, the counterattack move of the Ultimate [Justiciar's Guard] is stored. Stored counterattacks can be used at any time, as long as Shayol Wei isn't under control or attack.

5. Optimized the casting method of the counterattack move of the Ultimate [Justiciar's Guard]. This move can now be cast in the aimed direction, with its Damage Multiplier adjusted from 2.8 to 3.0.

[kind ginkgo]

Not until the patch; if they are there, they are listen in the patch notes

[twilit prism]

patch notes are out so it shouldnt be spoilers anymore right?

[twilit prism]

is the 4rth point those changes but reworded or no? xD

[scarlet dew]

the patchnotes we had before were just machine translation from CN notes

[kind ginkgo]

yep 👍

what you posted was still the chinese translation tho, it confused me a bit 😅 , mb

[twilit prism]

yeah thats why im confused, those seems like big changes and not seeing it on the english translation got me bummed

[magic hinge]

Anybody watches Chinese naraka streams?

Why the hell is everybody always screaming and talking to somebody in the room

The only chill stream I see is Arano

[kind ginkgo]

Chinese ones that were posted in #1286185822835703889 are preliminary ones, not fully official you could say. It is to be expected that smth is going to change compared to the live ones 🤔👍

[kind ginkgo]

What about mike?

[twilit prism]

are there any good english speaking naraka streamers?

[magic hinge]

Mike is 50/50

Last time he had a guest or something

Bro was yelling to somebody off screen half the time

[kind ginkgo]

👍

[kind ginkgo]

Dunkingdonuts for tarka, masterdeemo, lighthypernova,... 🤔👍

[lost dagger]

We have patch notes

[kind ginkgo]

Yeah, they told me

👍👍

I'll finish reading them in about 1h, before that I'm stuck on some uni work atm

[twilit prism]

wonder if she will raise in viabilitty with those

[kind ginkgo]

Shayol will for sure

[twilit prism]

she better be she is mommy

[tawny hemlock]

was zipping just nerfed really hard?

[olive sun]

what gives you that impression?

[tawny hemlock]

they got rid of the f that gives your team no stagger on light attacks, and they got rid of the aoe no death ult

[olive sun]

which are the most useless F V that no one uses

[magic hinge]

No stagger on light was useful though

The aoe no death was useless, yeah

[olive sun]

no it isn't

no one, and i mean NO ONE run that F

u're basically trolling if you run that F in both solo and team modes

[tawny hemlock]

My friend ran both it was always helpful to us, also think about it, how is it useless? That f is insane, we literally can just run in and have priority in any battle because we can’t get staggered unless blue charge is used.

[tawny hemlock]

What’s better and why?

[olive sun]

yeah and ''my friend'' play yueshan solo and he said it's good for him, but that doesn't change the fact that yueshan sucks ass in solo, data don't lies, just because something working for you doesn't means that it's considered good meta-wise, same story with that zip F3

[olive sun]

any of the other 2 (aka her current Fs) is viable, just not the removed F3
there's a reason that it got removed, guess why

''that F is insane'' - wonder why it got a <4% pick rate lol

[slate sierra]

F2 still protects from stagger (unless I misread the patch notes) so if you prefer that you’re still free to run it

[severe grove]

Guys how good is Kylin F1 vs his F2?

[twilit prism]

is this a one time purchase?

[kind ginkgo]

F2 is overall more versatile; F1 only advantage is being a combo breaker, on every other aspect f2 is better

[viral kiln]

why do people do the little hop after killing someone?

is it to loot faster or something? i see them do it after counters too

[rocky dove]

Yeah cuz it kinda auto sheaths your
Weapon so you can loot the essence

[buoyant bluff]

Doing it after counters is often to just stabilize your animation state/possible terrain positioning

[chrome cliff]

lmao

like the people on stream asking how I like the ziping buff yesterday, but backwards

you all need to realize that ziping didn't get changed in any way

deleting an F and V nobody plays and adding a dodge after ult that doesn't change the outcome of 499 in 500 fights isn't even worth the time it took you to read the patch notes

they could have just deleted the F and V done nothing else, but then, some uninformed people would probably complain why she didn't get reworked

well guess what. they must have thought she's in a good place and decided not to rework her, and asked marketing to come up with a useless change to make it look like a rework

[slate sierra]

The only thing that changed about Zip is that you can now give your teammates shit if they miss their F somehow cuz that tracking is STRONG

[sturdy reef]

what tarka ult is the one that allows for the like "heaven steps"

[indigo mulch]

🎉 | 月07 leveled up!

[drowsy dragon]

you can do it with every tarka ult from what I know

[sturdy reef]

oh alright thank you !

[drowsy dragon]

[kind ginkgo]

V1 is what you need,but both should work

Heavenstep u cannot do anyways, tarka infinite is only uppercuts, no grapples and bumps

[sturdy reef]

ooo alright thank you ! I will definitely try with this

[sturdy reef]

alrighty !

[kind ginkgo]

https://youtu.be/AgwTvW_sX9M?si=PH_phEt6Pl_aO3HO

This might be helpful

[lost dagger]

there are still spots for today's dojo <t:1740862800:R> #🏋┃dojo-coaching

[tawny hemlock]

Why’d you put “my friend” in quotes? Do you not actually have a friend lol. Also your logic is off. If it’s so terrible and contributes nothing positive or negative and some people like it, why get rid of it? Just leave it there

[karmic wolf]

tabbie is just trying to say, that personal experience is most of the time circumstantial, therefore tends to be wrong in the bigger picture

but the profile picture is so ugly that you think its attacking you

https://tenor.com/view/ugh-gross-no-dislike-yuck-gif-4716937964461424229

[olive sun]

u're right, i actually don't have any friends who think zip F3V3 and yueshan solo is good, my friends are not that dumb 💀
they're in the process of making heroes having 2 variations of F and V for game design consistency, which means new heroes will only have 2F 2V and old heroes who got 3F 3V will gets their least used F and V removed, along with some tweaks or reworks, it's not ''my logic'', it's the devs's

funny how you chose to nitpicking my wording and shifted to personal attack saying i ''have no friend'' instead of actually thinking ''maybe i was wrong, maybe the old zip F3 V3 is bad'' just shows that you never wanted to learn, you just want ppl to agree with what you came up with despite it make no sense because you're simply don't have enough experience on the subject 💀

[lilac hearth]

Does tarka ji immune to burn when on frenzy fire mode? Like fire arrow attack

For tarka ji ultimate which is better for fast maneuver when fighting between agility or faster movement speed from his V1&2 vs V3?

Can shayol wei shield block tarka ji Flame ball? Or it burn effect

Is tarka ji frenzy state immune to pistol denotation round effect?

Hopefully someone can help enlightening me

[olive sun]

• he's not immune to burn
• all of his Vs increase his action speed, aside from that v1 increase stamina regen, v2 gives multiple F usage, v3 increase attack and allows him to gain rage during V
• shayol turtle block can block his fireball stagger but not the damage or the burn
• during his V if he's running he's immune from ranged weapon attacks so the pistol shots will just miss, therefore denotation round won't happens, but if he's not running then he could get hit by ranged weapon attacks and take full effects from them

[lilac hearth]

Thanks buddie

[wooden niche]

does anyone know what f and v setup to use on lannie

[magic hinge]

I like v2 and combo break

[dense owl]

hey guys, can you give a build for matari

please

[kind ginkgo]

F2 V2 🤔👍

[scarlet dew]

V doesnt really increase his action speed, just lets him dodge out of majority situations in game, like mid-focus attack or mid-uppercut
shayol will block fireballs damage, just the burn DoT will not be blocked
I believe you can shoot him but only directly from front

[lost dagger]

I use f2 v2. F1 is also good. In trios go v1

[alpine sapphire]

Not sure where else to ask except here but as a new player how often do new characters release. I see a new one just launched a month ago. Assuming it's about 1 every 4-6 months?

[mint swallow]

Mhhh i start the game yesterday and i understsand what you say

Good for who start now have 15/20 heroes

But bad for who start years agol

[slate sierra]

its a season cycle, one season we get new hero next we get new weapon and then repeat iirc

[kind ginkgo]

Around 1 per season , usually around mid season

So about two per year I would say? Less in the future id imagine🤔👍

[chrome cliff]

f1 v2

the other f isn't good, too complicated to hit with its different stages

v2 let's you infinite

v1 isn't good. you sit afk on a carpet and pray that your balls hit the enemy in good situations rather than griefing

lannie is not that strong, high skill ceiling and not recommended for trios

it took me like a week to get consistent with most weapons on her

I still can't infinite with dagger and staff

[kind ginkgo]

Staff vertical focus loops are pretty straightforward in timing 🤔

Dagger i haven't personally tryed yet 🤔👍; got a recommendation of what to look for?

[chrome cliff]

you need to sidestep to pick up the ball again, so you need a soccer field of terrain, which is the reason why lannie sucks XD

[kind ginkgo]

Fair point

[chrome cliff]

lmb focus - dagger dash under enemy for raw dragon - delayed a1 delayed soulbreak - repeat

not a practical combo

lannie is not a practical character in general

[kind ginkgo]

I see

[chrome cliff]

lannie is for style points and cute outfits and voice lines, I wouldn't play her with a competitive mindset

[kind ginkgo]

Fair point 🤔

[chrome cliff]

I don't think they can rework her to make her usable, she will always be a brain damaged Justina that needs a soccer field to combo people

[kind ginkgo]

I'm really interested to see in the next nbpl if someone actually pulls her off tho 🤔

[chrome cliff]

and the slightest elevation will fuck up everything

the biggest turnoff is that you need to relearn the game to infinite with lannie withe each weapon, and even if you do everything correctly, it may still fail for reasons outside of your control

[lost dagger]

Working on a list of best hero builds to add to this channel. If anyone would like to help collaborate, dm me

[empty swallow]

Do you use swap or heal F on wuchen in duos?

[kind ginkgo]

heal whenever you can

swap is somewhat bad; works in solos, but....

[olive sun]

nothing wrong with the teleport
could get you out of sticky situations, also could be used to avoid tessa V/viper V

[lost dagger]

You can honestly play anything on wuchen

[wooden niche]

I keep trying to make it work but it’s kinda hard in trios. Unfortunate cuz when u pull it off it is quite satisfying

I just kinda got back into the game so just trying the new ones, I really don’t like cyra. what is the current solo and trio meta

[slate sierra]

Trios meta is changing rn, with the recent kylin buffs he appears to be coming back into meta

Shayol changes also have her being played in trios now so new comps are popping up with her in them

I played Kylin Zip Feria yesterday using feria instead of Hadi in that comp and it actually felt pretty good. I think feria can be decent into the Shayol meta as well since her mini gun doesn’t stagger

I could see feria coming back into trios a little bit for some cannonball esque comps with kylin monk maybe

Zai Cyra Matari Kurumi < like any combo of these characters is still popular. Although I have seen way less zais this patch. Maybe because Kylin kinda just runs through Zai quite literally

[true wadi]

Is Valda Cui any good in today's meta?

I like playing badass pirate lady

[kind ginkgo]

Main reason Kylin came back to the meta in my understanding should be that he works insanely well against cyra (this for prebuff); after buff his benefits are now back to being more than just countering cyra, so it would make sense 🤔👍

[slate sierra]

if the main reason kylin was returning to meta was to counter cyra he wouldve been back a long time ago

hes back because his buffs make him viable

without them the entire playerbase essentially deemed him unviable which is why we stopped seeing him across the board in all modes

[kind ginkgo]

Before nerfs it was the reason u saw him around 🤔👍, from my understanding at least

[wooden niche]

I remember at one point it was literally guaranteed Tessa every single comp

[wooden niche]

Is cyra considered that broken rn

[wooden niche]

She’s always fun to play imo

[true wadi]

So... Probably not meta then. That's okay still love her character

[wooden niche]

I don’t know the meta list, but considering you can inf combo with her, probably one of the better solos

[chrome cliff]

sorry but that comp looks terrible on paper

going into mech will cancel either ult and it's not recommended for feria to take mech herself except in emergencies

imo feria needs to be coupled with a character whose ult is short or doesn't cancel if they enter mech

you're not getting a good ult rotation if feria takes her own mech

[slate sierra]

i never take my own mech on feria

also we're just talking ranked not comp

for comp i said i see cannonball maybe being a thing with kylin monk feria, which is being played in cn right now as one of the comps being tested

i also just wanted to see how feria felt with a ton of shayols in trios, and honestly on that front she did feel decent

[kind ginkgo]

Yep, it was the time Tessa was super broken 👍

[lost dagger]

Characters skill and ultimate combinations (general guide) - Collaborative effort by the #🏋┃dojo-coaching coaches

As of 7/9/25 Patch

Note: By no means is this list going to be 100% accurate for every player, it serves as a general guide but the best build is the one that fits your playstyle, skill, and preferences. I will do my best to keep this list updated with each balance patch.

Viper Ning

Solos: F2V2 or F1v2
Duos/Trios: F1/F2 V1/V2 in any combination

Temulch

Solos: F1V3 or F1V1
Duos/Trios: F1V3 or F3V3

Matari

Solos/Duos: F2V2
Trios: F2V1 or F2V2 or F1V1 (stagger + mobility)

Tarka Ji

Solos: F1V1 or F2V1
Duos/Trios: F1V2 or F2V2

Kurumi

Solos: F1V2 (Don't play Kurumi Solos)
Duos/Trios: F2V2 F2V1(Playing with double transformer)

Tianhai

Solos: F1V1 (Don't play Tianhai Solos)
Duos/Trios: F1V1 F1V2 F2V2

Yoto Hime

Solos/Duos: F1V1 or F2V1
Trios: Any

Valda Cui

**Solos:**F1V2 or F2V2
Duos/Trios: F2V2

Yueshan

Solos: F1V1 F2V1
Duos/Trios: F1V1 F1V2

Wuchen

Solos/Duos: F2V2 or F1V2
Trios: Any

Justina Gu

Solos: F2V1
Duos/Trios: F2V2 or F2V1

Takeda Nobutada

Solos/Duos: F3V1
Trios: F1V3 or F3V3

Ziping Yin

Solos: F1V1 or F2V1
Duos/Trios: F1V1

Feria Shen

All Modes: F1V2 or F2V2

Akos Hu

Solos/Duos: F1V2 or F2V2
Trios: F1V1

Zai

Solos: F1V2
Duos/Trios: F2V2

Tessa

Solos/Duos: F1V1
Trios: F1V1 or F2V1

Hadi

Solos: F2V2
**Duos:**F2V2 or F2V1
Trios: F2V1 or F1V1

Shayol Wei

All Modes: F2V1 or F1V1

Lyam Liu

**Solos:**F1V2 or F1V1
Duos/Trios: F1V1 or F1V2

Kylin Zhang

Solos: F1V2 or F2V1
**Duos:**F1V2 or F2V2
Trios: F1V1

Cyra

Solos/Duos: F1V1
Trios: F1V1 or F1V2

Lannie

Solos/Duos: F2V2 or F1V2
Trios: F2V1 or F1V1

[rocky dove]

But I like playing Kurumi and Tanhai in solos

[magic hinge]

Bro’s gotta be lying

or he’s just that goated

[rocky dove]

Granted it’s during non peak times when it’s mostly bots I like to practice my neural

XD

[magic hinge]

You can still find games? My just does 30 min queue and no game

I have to wait for peak hours

[rocky dove]

Bot fill

[magic hinge]

Steam

[rocky dove]

Sucks

[mighty pasture]

hello where can i see for souljade guides for characters ? (takeda main here XD)

[rocky dove]

SJ all depends on your play style if your more offensive run 4 attack jades and 2 damage reduction if your more support run 3 health 3 damage reduction

[willow urchin]

this toothpick against golden focus Valda F, is bs or am i trippin' ?

[rocky dove]

Unlucky honestly caught you on release and canceled it

[willow urchin]

as far as i know, there is no vulnerability frames at the end edit: Wrong, yes it have

and i didn't release tbh

i was holding

[rocky dove]

Just raka narakaing

[lilac hearth]

Asking for advice from personal playing experience

Wanna learn telmuch to diverse my Trio rooster

When playing telmuch which is the best skill combine? What should i pay attention to and what is the worse heroes to fight again as telmuch? What is the best heroes to fight again with telmuch? Which heroes have better synergy with telmuch?

[rocky dove]

Tbh Timmy fits in to a lot of different comps, my favorite is a full CC team with v1 viper v3 Timmy and v1/2 Tessa or if you want a more trap oriented team Timmy valda v3 Akos

[lilac hearth]

How far you have played telmuch brother?

[rocky dove]

Tbh only enough to complete his cultivation im a Lyam main

[olive sun]

theoretically speaking you could pick temulch into any comps, however when forming a trio comp you should think about a few things:

• the ability to does damages
• the ability to create pressure and peel, engage and disengage
• the ability to stall the fight and outlast your opponent
  and you can clearly see that temmy falls into the 2nd and 3rd category
  temmy V is not exactly a good cc ability, it's more on the support side

so you would want someone with high damages good pressure (cyra monk yueshan zai etc) and another person with a more direct cc (tessa viper valda...) or a kurumi (high healing)

[rocky dove]

Try temmy yushan viper good starter comp

[lilac hearth]

What about your preference when using telmuch? I don't know about other peoples but for me personally when using certain hero there is certain enemy that i would like to fight ( based on high percentage of winning the fight myself) and those specific hero that i pay more attention or avoid direct confrontation

[rocky dove]

Doesn’t rumi circle also turn sandy?

[olive sun]

you don't really know til the moment you see enemy comp

for example temmy V could became completely useless if enemy team got a cube hadi

[lilac hearth]

I mostly using yueshan and shayol when playing trio but i feel just those 2 not enough. And i already trying most of hero out there just decent play for Solar ranked

[rocky dove]

Really anything that can shut down you skills IE viper or if they running any silence jades or what tabbie said any hero that has a get out of jail free card, Hadi and Wu Chen (not likely to run TP) but there always that chance

[lilac hearth]

This is a kind of information that I'm looking for tbh i may know this by myself when playing but it would need a lot of match until i encounter or realize what happening

[olive sun]

like the viper temmy tessa comp, on paper it sounds good and it could be good if u guys managed to 1shot someone but then if you face a cyra team

and you guys failed to catch her

she'll just turn on her V and cover her teammates from anything

even if they got stunned by viper V tessa V

or a monk who timed his V well so he didn't get stunned

[lilac hearth]

Cyra team? I rarely meet her when playing trio i thought she only good for solo?

[magic hinge]

She is still good in trios

[rocky dove]

Oh sweet child

She’s still a menace

[olive sun]

still good? lol, she's like the most broken in trio

[lilac hearth]

Wait does other transformation not get effected by telmuch prison slow?

[magic hinge]

Before she was straight up unkillable

[olive sun]

is tanky, does alot of dmg and cc with her V and from long range

[olive sun]

nope
but temmy windwall could stop ranged attack

so if you placed it well it could stop monk from grabbing ur teammate

or shutdown a feria mech

[rocky dove]

As far as I know they still get slowed, unless an enemy yushan uses generals call

[magic hinge]

Half transformers like Zai get affected though

[olive sun]

it doesn't matters

cuz it's character specific

you'll have to memorize each

[magic hinge]

Comp is cool and all, but if your team has no coordination

It doesn’t really matter

[olive sun]

yeah lol

in the end temmy V create an area which benefits your team if your team know how to take advantage of it

[magic hinge]

Cannonball or full transformer comp might be strong

[olive sun]

the benefits might be huge, might be just a little

[magic hinge]

But you can still lose to random picks because of 0 coordination

[olive sun]

know what you should do and when you should do what take experience

[lilac hearth]

I play cyra early on up till gold rank i have Good match with her but when it was platinum up i stop playing her. The enemy move better and responding to cyra V in much better way. Untill now i haven't playing cyra again for ranked and when fighting again cyra i don't feel that much frustration comparing to Lennie. Lennie tracking ball is so annoying

[olive sun]

need coordination

[magic hinge]

CN scrims don’t show any lannie in trios interestingly enough

[olive sun]

cyra is just a well rounded character in trio

[magic hinge]

But maybe after the update might see them

[olive sun]

she could do like everything

[magic hinge]

Considering NBPL is in 2 weeks, they might have been hiding the comps

[olive sun]

so know when to pops ur V and what you should use it for is important

not just pops n pews

[lilac hearth]

Spring?

[olive sun]

tbh on low level matches you rarely feels the comps being effective anyway

[lilac hearth]

Gotta learn from early 😂

[olive sun]

by low level matches i mean even UA

if your team don't have a certain level of coordination

[rocky dove]

I mean NA UA is like CN silver tbh

[olive sun]

my advice is just play the character and see for yourself

in the end most comps works in ranked

heavy damages comp, super healing comp, multiple cc comp bla bla bla

[rocky dove]

Play to learn and have fun trying stuff

[olive sun]

specially temmy

let me just say that he fits into all comps lol

[lilac hearth]

I don't have any hope about this since i play with random. Cant find a single soul to build teamwork with hahaha

[olive sun]

teamwork is the most important thing in trio

you play with random you can only pray

that they know what they're doing

and you're able to follow up also with what you have

[lilac hearth]

True i just recently playing shayol and she work like a charm my Kill went up a lot promoted 2 rank in a day playing with random using shayol. Playing as her is so relax don't need to worries for gang up

[olive sun]

until you met a comp that make your shayol looks like a clown lol

it's a good thing tho

you'll see the limits of the way you use that hero

and learn what to do to change it, to make it works better

[vague fractal]

whats the top 3 characters

[rocky dove]

IMO the most seen rn are shayol kylin cyra

[vague fractal]

wich is better kylin or this lyam

[rocky dove]

If you looking for more damage and stun value use kylin if your more methodical and support oriented go Lyam

[vague fractal]

ok ty

[kind ginkgo]

Lyam better for combos of the two

Also more sustainability

Kylin is more straightforward if on v1, V2 requires you to be precise and think a bit, since it costs hp to cast

[vague fractal]

ok thx

im new to game and there is much to discover

[kind ginkgo]

Yep, it's a lot 👍👍

My suggestion would be to just take and play what you think is cool atm

Meta helps, but there is nothing like an insta-win pick in naraka as you might have noticed. Best way to progress is playing smth you like while you learn the mechanics and get accustomed to the game 👍👍

[vague fractal]

ok tysm

[dry tapir]

is lannie good for solo?

[rocky dove]

Her combo ult is if you can pull it off

[kind ginkgo]

Viable, but hard

High skill ceiling

[magic hinge]

hit the ball and you are set to go

you can also teleport to confuse your opponents while also using this later to atacl

i don't know if she is super hard per say

[kind ginkgo]

Timing in restagger is weird

[magic hinge]

she is like a different lyam

[kind ginkgo]

Nah

She's a mix of like 5 heroes I'd like to say 🤔😂

And this makes her unique

[magic hinge]

fair

but super close to lyam

[kind ginkgo]

(then again, I mainly play her, Lyam and Kylin, so don't take my diss too seriously 🤔😂)

[magic hinge]

closest analogy

[kind ginkgo]

Fair

[rocky dove]

Wish Lyam would get more love

[kind ginkgo]

I gotcha!

If you ever need Lyam Tod combos I got Ur back 🤔👍😂

Same for kylin

Lannie is still work in progress on some things

[rocky dove]

Is it possible on 60fps 70ms

[tawny hemlock]

Funny how you only latched onto the first thing I said. I literally stated that if it was so inconsequential then they should have just left it be. You make 0 sense. Just leave it in there. They gain nothing by removing it from the game

[rocky dove]

Bruh that was 4 days ago XD

Took you that long to type that

[chrome cliff]

no

[chrome cliff]

?
lyam has all the love, he's the best character in Solos

[rocky dove]

Ik he’s good in solo I main him XD I just don’t see him a lot on console

[chrome cliff]

I don't think most console players understand or care about what's good

they just waifugaming or going with what's easy and impactful looking

[rocky dove]

I do

[dry tapir]

looks like ill stick w feria then

[magic hinge]

You streaming solos tonight?

I‘ll try to meet you in lobby again

[junior zephyr]

someone give me talent lannie pls

[light belfry]

Look at the pinned comments. There is a list for every character

[junior zephyr]

where is it

[junior zephyr]

it dont have lannie

[jade citrus]

F2 V2 if you want to use F1 it’s ok too but don’t use V1 it’s really bad.

[indigo mulch]

🎉 | Noxie leveled up!

[kind ginkgo]

it should 🤔

yep, just checked, lannie is there aswell

[magic hinge]

Does gear up really help with internet @kind ginkgo

I’ve been getting hit with a lot of untrues and having people dodge out of my combo

[kind ginkgo]

i havent personally used it, but it should, yeah

[kind ginkgo]

what is your ping?

[magic hinge]

I used to play on 50-60, now it’s more like 30-40 range

But it lags more somehow

Still better than my 120 ping day

[kind ginkgo]

maybe the enemies are lagging?

i couldnt help with that 🤔 ; gearup usually should help a little bit 👍

not my expertise tho, so i can't really pinpoint the problem that's causing the lag 😅

[magic hinge]

Should enemies with lower ping be able to untrue me? Or does the strange rubberband randomly work in higher ping?

[kind ginkgo]

lower ping can always do weird things, yeah

like, if they are at 10, or have like 200 fps more than you, there is a chance they could untrue you with anything

then again, it depends

[magic hinge]

Ughh this why people get tilted in solos

If needed I’ll play bush simulator and third party

[chrome cliff]

it works both ways

I have 5 ms and I can get rubberbanded by high ping players too

[viral kiln]

Damn 5ms is crazy lol that’s awesome

[tawny hemlock]

I'm not always on my pc

[compact ledge]

ı need zai build

[kind ginkgo]

Full red if you want ult, or go standard one

Penemue video can help you a bit

[delicate plover]

can anyone tell me
how do u cancel falling down animation after uppercut?
for example with long sword

[magic hinge]

wdym

[delicate plover]

i see streamers do it all the time

the fall fast so they can continue combo

[olive sun]

either with grapple or 211

[delicate plover]

thanks

is the 211

found video about it

[quaint citrus]

I need wuchen build

[quaint citrus]

I think spam s and shift?

Ah nvm

[kind ginkgo]

check the pinned comments, we just added them

for each hero

[exotic wagon]

Guys do you know the character tierlist for solo/duos/trios?

[olive sun]

for solo stay away from tianhai, yueshan, kurumi and maybe viper/tarka/yoto
for trio anything works as long as you got a proper comp and team

[exotic wagon]

What is tier list of these character for solo and duos? (Feria Shen, Zai, Zipping Yin, Justina &Tessa)

[olive sun]

i'd say justina abit above the rest

but the rest is also good

at solo

[kind ginkgo]

Justina best, Tessa second, close to feria (feria needs to be played well), zip, viper

Zip is fully dependant on neutral tho, so if you ain't got the basics down and solid, she's going to be jard

Hard

[nimble bone]

Are there any BIS runes for X Heros or it's based by your personal play style ?
Also are there any sites with builds/guides/tier list for Naraka ?

[olive sun]

kinda is, at the same time kinda no

most of vets agree that purple and blue tree are not worth taking, so it's just red and green

then you choose it based on your character, team, gameplan, playstyle...

[magic hinge]

The roll got nerfed

Maybe I should change this

[olive sun]

yeah just give up on the stamina regen side lol

[magic hinge]

Yeah

I‘ll prob do more rage

[finite burrow]

I need one for Valda please 🙏🏻

[magic hinge]

These are old though

I think you should look at what each node does and think what you need more

[finite burrow]

Much appreciated 🙏🏻

[chrome cliff]

regarding glyphs, i made this guide before wave roll became popular: #🙎┃character-guides message

now that wave roll got nerfed and it isn't that strong anymore, i don't see a point in making an updated guide

since what's in the guide still applies

newly added characters follow the same logic as existing ones, so if you need a glyph build, you should be able to find it there

[magic hinge]

Your guide is pretty good

Very much appreciated

[light dirge]

Hey guys I also made two naraka guides that are mini games at https://naraka.gg

[rare mulch]

For any Temulchers:

https://youtu.be/ysXp6Gmj-Ec?si=dkLnUMCAPWScoA7B

[viral kiln]

I am new to wuchen, and trying to find out the best way to use his F1, i usually play F2

most my randoms dont really seem to know how to capitalize on it for them to start a combo or get a free blue off sadly

outside of that seems like something i can use to skip neutral if i hit them from close to me

or possibly if i can time it right, activate F, land a combo, use F to swap and get another combo off

is there anything else im missing? how is it as an escape tool? havent really tried using it there much tbh just started using it

[magic hinge]

If you’re talking about in team modes, I don’t think the swap is better than the armour heal

The armour heal also block ranged shots

And with the swap, you actually have to communicate with your team, what you are swapping so they change main targets to whoever that is

And if you miss you essentially get hit by the opponents

So 3 heals+ blocks (I’m pretty sure there’s a way to iframe it and use it to parry) is a better option

Somebody who plays wuchen in trios, please correct me if I’m wrong

Don’t want to be spreading misinformation

[kind ginkgo]

Yep, it's tight, but it's there technically

As for which skills, as you can see on the list bin kindly made and pinned, any skill is fine for solos, team modes only the shield ones, as you said, are actually working well

Swap has, as you pointed out, a lot more downsides 👍👍

[magic hinge]

Question about Valda v1

Is there a limit to how many people you can hit?

And are they immune to grab?

[kind ginkgo]

Good question 🤔

I never tested it, but I would love to say 3 to 4 people max

3 I'm pretty sure, 4 should be tested 🤔

Usually u see 2 getting caught tho

[magic hinge]

Yeah usually it’s like 2

No idea why though

[chrome cliff]

I don't think there is a limit, it just stops being practical to hit more at some point

[indigo mulch]

🎉 | Penemue leveled up!

[kind ginkgo]

As for the grab part, no clue

[chrome cliff]

exception is final circle

[magic hinge]

Because nobody uses v1

[chrome cliff]

but why go valda when you can just run viper

or temulch

[magic hinge]

And I’ve only ever accidentally used it instead of v2 while reading the description

[magic hinge]

Just asking to test things out later

Viper you have to wait a bit for ult to take effect

So you either ult in open spaces with your team controlling

Or ult early and wuchen teleport to them or smth

[chrome cliff]

usually not a good option

[magic hinge]

I was just thinking if I could try a third party strat with Valda v1

[chrome cliff]

but you can drop from high up

[chrome cliff]

Just go tessa to do the same at lower rage cost

[magic hinge]

I’ve seen CN scrim playing V1 Valda and got curious

[chrome cliff]

it gets played sometimes and it can work, but in the end, it's just cheese

and the better the enemy is, the higher the chances that they will react iframe it

or use things like kurumi F or ziping F to break free

or negate damage

[magic hinge]

Mmmm, I see

Thanks for explaining

[chrome cliff]

People will know that you have it pretty soon

and find a way to deal with it

[magic hinge]

After 1 use essentially

[chrome cliff]

tessa is more straightforward cuz you can spam the ult

[magic hinge]

And Valda after v1 ult is a target

[chrome cliff]

every character after ult is a target

that's why you play comps with an ult rotation

most trio comps are planned for 4th party survivability

[magic hinge]

What about kylin hadi trio comp

It’s nerfed

But was it ever against 4th parties?

Before the hadi nerf, could he have enough rage for another cube?

[magic hinge]

Could you give tips on trios to somebody who mainly plays solos and some duos

Outside of playing with my party

Like sometimes playing with randoms, playing matari I waste all my fs to save them from partying

I’ve watched your video on roles in trios

But what to do if they pick Zai and Kylin

Do I play ziping heal?

So many questions

[scarlet dew]

i think naraka is literally unplayable if u dont play with ur team on voice comms

playing with randoms will be total trainwreck

would be best if u just find likeminded people to play with

if u absolutely must play with randoms then probably u will benefit more from high impact hero

so u can play the kylin or zai etc yourself

this way u can both get the kills urself

and peel for ur teammates

also will be easier for ur team to do something if u pressure enemies into disadvantage

[chrome cliff]

parry more and release more blues

don't play with randoms

[celest bolt]

Try to find a team you can communicate well and have fun. MAKE TEAM , random is to test your patience and solo skill in trios. @magic hinge

[magic hinge]

I’ve tested my patience enough I think

My clan has a lot of trio players

But because I mainly played solos and duos they are all asuras alr

And I’m like solar

-_-

The rank disparity in trios doesn’t let me play

[olive sun]

just do random

and leave mid match if ur team sucks

[magic hinge]

That’s what I’ve been doing

[magic hinge]

[olive sun]

gotta make use of the reputation scores you was given

[magic hinge]

10k was given

And it’s max

And when it’s peaked

[olive sun]

yes

that's why u shud spend it

[magic hinge]

All it has to do is go down

[olive sun]

[magic hinge]

So wise

I shall closely follow this advice

[olive sun]

[karmic wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/what's-wrong-with-you-brothers-are-you-okay-are-you-feeling-alright-amazon-prime-video-gif-7208574972805695233

[olive sun]

[karmic wolf]

When I said change your PP, I meant for something less ugly

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[olive sun]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-girl-middle-finger-mood-screw-you-leave-me-alone-gif-10174031

[karmic wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-gasp-what-cat-shock-gif-635629308990545194

Mod, did you see that?, Mods??

[harsh maple]

[magic hinge]

[karmic wolf]

The ugly kid did the ugly sign!

https://tenor.com/view/inconceivable-toy-story-princess-bride-vizzini-rex-gif-6285526909161645096

[viral kiln]

im also #teamtabbieoldpfp

[karmic wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/this-guy-gets-it-ahmed-aldoori-he-gets-it-he-understands-he-gets-the-picture-gif-17661654

[viral kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-lick-conk-conky-kitty-gif-18021368

hey now, dont get the wrong idea, im still #teamtabbie

[karmic wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-gif-22341545

[magic hinge]

@kind ginkgo anything interesting to do with kylin? Maybe in ult or something

I only know some of his f2 extensions, but feel like f1 is more practical

[kind ginkgo]

I got u

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCwPwO2uTjYmwkrYSqienVY-wFbZcmpAP&si=GTqLmEbcp22VVMC4

F1 is overall worse tho

Ult itself is also not really combo friendly due to how it works

[magic hinge]

Maybe some interesting tech, like hadi can confirm up to 4 light stacks in ult if you shift crouch cancel

[magic hinge]

Kylin doesn’t even have ult as a combo break

Doesn’t feel safe

[kind ginkgo]

F2 is soft combo break

And also his main tool; pretty much can't play him without it

[kind ginkgo]

V2 u can confirm 2 dashes if u dash instantly back

Aside that, nothing

[magic hinge]

Damn, I’ll try the f2 again

[viral kiln]

as im running into better players im coming across something that is bothering me since i havent seen it before until now.

whenever i get parried, they pick up my weapon IMMEDIATELY, like before it even loads on my screen its just gone. and no its not from takeda haha

i dont see them do a tap jump either

anyone well versed in this or know how they do it?

[kind ginkgo]

most likely tab into picking it manually

[olive sun]

i mean you just... pick it up? as long as you got empty weapon slot

[viral kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/what-shocked-surprised-huh-woah-gif-16868163

[jade citrus]

press 3

[karmic wolf]

Tessa EN VA? Ugly PP starts to make sense now

[indigo mulch]

🎉 | Loyalight leveled up!

[karmic wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/manul-pallas-cat-grusha-stare-angry-gif-13274783065358599182

[olive sun]

at least i'm able to UNDERSTAND what my characters is saying

japanese voice is cringe

[karmic wolf]

"Japanese voice is cringe"
-Kuin!, you drop your weapon...(Murrican fatso trying so hard to sound sexy probably)

there is only one no cringe way of doing this and that is by original direction which last time I check was chinese

and let me tell you

Tessa Original voice is insanely hot

captures her essence to perfection

[rocky dove]

Mom there a weird cat outside

[olive sun]

they're equally cringe

[karmic wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-sigh-whatever-not-surprised-gif-22918448

Ugly PP tot making sense, can you at least return to the less ugly one?

never thought I would ask for that

[olive sun]

it's my cat so f you

https://tenor.com/view/kevin-can-f-himself-annie-murphy-kcfh-kevin-can-fk-himself-kevin-can-fuck-himself-gif-25080739

[karmic wolf]

You look uglier doing the ugly sign

and do your cat a favor and take a better picture

https://tenor.com/view/gosh-napoleon-napoleon-dynamite-gif-5699289

[quaint citrus]

what are then best duo comp with tessa?

[rocky dove]

Anyone who can capitalize on her stun enchant for example zai

[quaint citrus]

how about wuchen

sword raining one

[rocky dove]

That would work if you can get them to walk into it instead of target selecting them

[quaint citrus]

Glyph for wuchen,

[kind ginkgo]

Check pinned comments, penemue's video is what you are looking for

[lilac hearth]

Anyway to deal with takeda weapon stealing?

[olive sun]

slap him

[rocky dove]

Don’t throw blue 🤷‍♂️

[lilac hearth]

So it only work for blue focued attack?

[slate sierra]

yes

it lasts 10 seconds i think, so just kite or use light attacks or try to bait a parry

but a good takeda wont try to parry while his f is active

[magic hinge]

And if you can win neutral and start a combo on him, he won’t steal your weapon

But a good Takeda will be hard to catch

[kind ginkgo]

That goes for all good players tho 🤔👍😂

[indigo mulch]

🎉 | Eldranicks leveled up!

[lilac hearth]

Sadly i don't understand why my lobbies are so scary it doesn't look like that week ago 🥲

All of them have thousands prestige that mean old time player

Cant even meet someone with below 1000 prestige anymore

[lilac hearth]

Is there a indication like color around takeda so i can know he is using F skill?

[slate sierra]

Honestly it doesn’t mean much, I wouldn’t put so much thought or worry about that. All achievements and quests in naraka can be done in bot mode against 0 real players so that doesn’t necessarily mean anything.

[slate sierra]

There is a sound effect and animation that play when he activates his F, his hand glows purple it’s not the easiest thing to spot so paying attention for the audio cue can be really useful

[slate sierra]

Also it sounds like you graduated out of bot lobbies. I think anything below plat is mostly bots with a few other new players who are also learning, once you hit plat and start climbing higher you’ll be matched with more players.

Every player experiences this jump in skill from the bot lobbies to more “real” lobbies.

[magic hinge]

I mean like in f

He knows you’re not releasing

Hard to catch especially

[chilly trout]

Bois, what is your opinion on Wei atm?

[kind ginkgo]

shayol wei?

really strong

the v1 buff gave her quite a boost

[magic hinge]

I hate her

[kind ginkgo]

[magic hinge]

Bro

As a kylin main

You should hate her too

[kind ginkgo]

How so

Bait her ult, dodge it on reaction / prediction, gg WP 🤔👍

[magic hinge]

She is very bad match up against kylin in yang

[kind ginkgo]

If you ult first yeah

If you don't, she aint

[magic hinge]

It can go through walls btw

[kind ginkgo]

I kne

[magic hinge]

If you both equal skill

[kind ginkgo]

But a tap dodge is pretty much all you need

[magic hinge]

She is not ulting first

[kind ginkgo]

(I'm a Kylin main, yeah, but she's still my most played hero 🤔👍😂)

[kind ginkgo]

Shayol ult when she's low hp

Meaning won neutral once, combo, she ults

[magic hinge]

So you have turned to the dark side

[kind ginkgo]

How so?

She got released way before kylin

[magic hinge]

Fair

Still a bad matchup for kylin

Especially you

You play combo starter

Her f starter has faster cd

Character to character kylin is prob the worst matchup to her

[kind ginkgo]

Mh

Hadi is worse 🤔

Can't really catch him

But then again, it's a skill matchup, the better player wins

U clearly are not trying to contest her f2 with yours if she's already running

The same goes for her, can't use her f on reaction, startup is blue for her aswell

[magic hinge]

Oh shit

[kind ginkgo]

😂😂

[magic hinge]

I forgot he exists

now i just use his ult in solos as a double combo break

[kind ginkgo]

😂

[magic hinge]

but in any case

Kylin vs shayol is still a bad matchup

[kind ginkgo]

Skill matchup, TBF could go either way

[magic hinge]

On equal skill i'm picking the shayol to win 9/10

but yeah

[dreamy ice]

Never win against her

[lilac hearth]

Use her a lot but most of the time meet a lot of people that can beat her

[buoyant bluff]

Okay I know I'm a month later but if he puts you in the cage just stay inside

if you touch the walls you'll get slowed and he'll maul you alive

Stay within the walls and fight him in that space, or if you have a skill with purple/gold armor use that to get out and run

Temulch mains know their ult spacing well too and they'll often try to spawn the wall on you

If you see that gold hop forward dash straight back or forward IMMEDIATELY

Get yourself out of wall range ASAP

TLDR the wall is lava

[worthy dove]

is there any pos 3 or kurumi trios PoV out there? i kind of like the idea of supporting play style but i suck with the hero ☺️

[rocky dove]

I’ve mained rumi for a bit what would you like to know?

[worthy dove]

there's too much stuff.. like lets start with F when do you jump in and when do you decide to mouse2 instead.. and why is V2 better? i mean its combo break yes, but it feels like a waste at time just for that

[rocky dove]

For F I try and stay linked until I see my teammate about to get jumped by 2 or gets comboed and then I try to peel for them so they can get a reset as for ult it depends on how aggressively you like to play

Armor circle is my preferred ult because I like to play close to my team

[worthy dove]

hmm yeah i see that a lot more but maybe someone can fill in why V2 is good

[rocky dove]

V2 is good because it’s a universal heal they don’t need to be in a radius

[olive sun]

wdym v2 is better?

literally no one runs v2

[worthy dove]

im just asking cos it was in the "pinned guide"

"V1 if double transformers"

[rocky dove]

V2 Solos rumi for lyfe @olive sun what you mean

[olive sun]

😂 fair, you run rumi solo no logic applies anymore

[lost dagger]

Tbh i originally had it as f2v1

I opened the doc for the dojo coaches to edit. Not sure who changed it to that or what their reasoning was

But just run v1 if your team is coordinated

People use v2 because it lets you always get value and save yourself or teammates in a pinch

[rocky dove]

DEX boi

[lost dagger]

Don't be a dex hater

[rocky dove]

Your talking to a Bonk boi

STR 4 Lyfe

[lost dagger]

I'm literally on a str fai build

[rocky dove]

Yeah but you prefer DEX so your unfaithful to the STR life

Get an Xbox I’ll buy you ER and we can fight about it XD

[lost dagger]

Hell no xD

[rocky dove]

[lost dagger]

Get a pc instead

[rocky dove]

Console 4 ever

[worthy dove]

its the only way....

[worthy dove]

didnt know this 👍

also, do you prefer to get the parasol down in fights just in case?

[olive sun]

tbh if you want to play kurumi v2 in trio better just go zip...

[worthy dove]

nah i like v1 but i was only asking for reasoning for v2 but its covered now

[olive sun]

if you want high level kurumi gameplay probably digging through narakaautoreplays

[worthy dove]

ive mostly seen solos there

[olive sun]

you could learn how/when to use what from watching them

there's trio gameplay, need some digging tho

[worthy dove]

alrite 👍

[buoyant bluff]

Liam v1 better then v2 right

Saw everyone using v2 in nbpl but it only seems like it's better in yang

[kind ginkgo]

V1 is overall better; gives more survivability an options

V2 is harder to dodge, hence the high use id say 🤔. Also going Tod from it is somewhat easy

[chrome cliff]

everyone plays V2 because of shayol meta

[kind ginkgo]

also true 🤔

[magic hinge]

V2 in endgame is also pretty good

And in Celestra it’s a like a kill confirm

[buoyant bluff]

Is there a good way to practice V2 combos in the training arra

[proper kite]

Hello, returning player here.
May I ask if there is still active site for glyph guide / skills?

Trying to learn about the changes on the game.

specifically for wuchen and kylin.

Many thanks!

[olive sun]

check pinned post

[magic hinge]

Wdym train combos with v2?

If you know how to do a sliding uppercut, you just throw it up and do those

You can also throw the pokeball into the sky and shoot with the bow

[kind ginkgo]

shot them to the ceiling and it's pretty much going to give you all the setup you need 👍

aside from that there are a ton of just 2nd stage charged attack combos u can do with simply waiting the ball to finish

[mild granite]

do most zais use f2 for solos

[magic hinge]

people

remember that justina freezes shayol

and you can get a focus atack

i forgot

[kind ginkgo]

Yep 👍👍

Good thing to remember 👍👍

[magic hinge]

I just demolished a shayol

She had 1 hp

And ulted

I forgot I was a Justina and I just started kiting like an idiot

[kind ginkgo]

ahahaha

u got her in the end

[buoyant bluff]

How do you deal with kaylin ult

[rocky dove]

Using a higher tier focus level or use an ult that can stun or freeze him

[empty swallow]

was shayol ult 1 changed to be a close range grab instead of projectile?

[rocky dove]

I don’t believe so

[empty swallow]

i even try it in practice, i see nothing come out when you use the counter

and i can't grab enemies at range in game

[rocky dove]

Make a post about it but I’d just chock it ult to naraka being naraka

[foggy phoenix]

I saw that most of people use horizontal M1 and don't charge often for such player, if he's close try repeated shift dodge let him dash without catching you then double jump and grapple mid air, work most of time if you can dodge one dash, it's vertical range is low if you double jump or is airborne at right time dash with hit you, work most of time for me until kylin realise he needs to use charges vertical strikes.

There a little, very little delay between kylin dashing in a direction he is aiming and actually dashing, it's very little but you can repeated dodge in either left or right in T pattern to make him miss, I don't single dodge will get you enough away from dashing direction but 2 will if you time enough

[magic hinge]

Scalerush away

As long as there are a lot of buildings

A bit of scalerushing can do you wonders

[wet vine]

How s liam supposed to be played btw?

[lilac hearth]

What is the best way when using character without combo breaking skill while Facing enemy that can execute very good combo?

[indigo mulch]

🎉 | Expired Ink leveled up!

[karmic wolf]

prayer

[rocky dove]

Out neutral them so you don’t get caught in the combo

[karmic wolf]

out neutraling the enemy is ALWAYS needed weather you have a combo breaker or not, unless you have a press to win ult ofc

[buoyant bluff]

Die

I'm not trying to be mean just like being real you run combo breakers in solos

at higher levels it's basically needed

[willow urchin]

Your neutral and mental game has to be way above average or you are just trolling yourself.
Is also important to acknowledge every enemy skill so once they use their pussy combo breaker, you can get max value of your combo opener/extender.

Temmy is a nice class to practice both escenarios because he has combo breaker and combo extender. Its a really difficult situation if you don't have any combo breaker in your ult also. (F1 valda for example)

[olive sun]

if u miss ur combo starter just run wait for its cd

[magic hinge]

question abt V1 and V3 takeda

differences and knock up?

stun?

only use v3 in trios and spirit well

[rocky dove]

I might not remember this right but do v1v3 both scale with party’s weapons? Cuz I think that’s it

[magic hinge]

v3 does

it has a prolonged animation if scaled to gold

and if scaled to purple, it has 4 charges

I wanted to ask about the stun, is it the same?

[rocky dove]

I don’t play him to often to really know I just know you can start comboing after each use or atleast get a 1.0 blue off I liked running him with DB cavalry or DH Dragon

[magic hinge]

Yeah but im not trying to use him in solos

just wanted to know why v3 is prefered in trios and v1 in solos

[rocky dove]

Then I think v1 is the better choice

V3 just has the upped charges I think

[magic hinge]

just cuz longer animation and range?

[rocky dove]

Ye

But ask around I might be wrong

[magic hinge]

ye

asking in character guides

[rocky dove]

I don’t even know any takada mains to even ask

[magic hinge]

i know people who play him solos

[lilac hearth]

I meet a lot doing solo ranked

[kind ginkgo]

At lower ranks u do indeed 🤔👍👍; the more you climb, the less they will be around

[magic hinge]

Cuz everyone plays shayol lyam and Justina

[kind ginkgo]

Yep

[olive sun]

meh

it's just that not much ppl play takeda

[kind ginkgo]

Don't forget the occasional valda or matari

[kind ginkgo]

He's objectively weaker against skilled opponents

Compared to other options such as the ones above mentioned

He ain't weak tho

[olive sun]

completely playable against anyone

[kind ginkgo]

Just weaker in the meta

[magic hinge]

Kinda agree, that he will always be viable due to TOD

But not meta

[olive sun]

his pickrate was always low

[lilac hearth]

Never play Asura lobbies so i can't say for that

I meet 3-4 takeda yesterday ranked solo i thnk they should be around emphy 1 or mid astral

[magic hinge]

I think most people who play Takeda in Asura can do the same shit on other heroes

Like, sure the demon in ult is a combo break but using this as 3 combo breaks is not the way, considering the character has no combo break

No combo start(outside of ult)

Usually see people use f3

Which is a combo extender ( or not, I have not tried this on the bot)

But back to the question

Does the stagger length on v1 and v3 differ?

[kind ginkgo]

F2 can combo start and extend 🤔

But it's generally worse

[magic hinge]

I liked f2 at first, but then I thought

Can’t I just… Like dodge or parry?

[kind ginkgo]

Well, yeah 🤔😂

But it also works on reaction

[magic hinge]

Don’t say those word in the vicinity of @olive sun

[kind ginkgo]

😆

true, dont want to risk my life

[olive sun]

what

who even run F3 on takeda

[magic hinge]

I swear I see it

[olive sun]

yeah which is why his popularity was low
he was popular back then bcoz he's one of the few characters who can tod with heaven step, but even so not everyone managed to make it works so to say ''popular'' i mean he's popular for doing eye catching combos, which back then there's just like, 3 of them or something
then when heaven step got removed and with the release of new (better) characters he disappear, only people who really really enjoy playing him still play him atm

[olive sun]

probably people who don't know how to play him

F1 trio F2 solo is mandatory

[olive sun]

you use the F2 for the healing and the pseudo neutral advantage, you can't use it as a combo starter but you can hit a vertical attack

and it could be used for a risk-free move like ziping F, or to fix ur mistake quickly
you're dashing into or light attacked someone who's holding blue you can just press F and don't need to worry about anything
if they're still holding blue or releasing it when ur F hits you slam them and heals and you get 1 vertical attack
if they cancel the blue you still gain pseudo neutral advantage with the F hits
if ur F miss you're still on gold focus and they can't combo you

[magic hinge]

Tabbie are you sure you’re not mixing f2 and f3

[magic hinge]

F2 can be interrupted by light atack, no?

[olive sun]

the quick animation make up for it

i don't think people are able to react to a takeda F2 point blank range with a light attack lol

wait a minute

i think i confused between f2 and f3 LMAO

ok i made a mistake

solo takeda run f3 yes

[magic hinge]

Yes tabbie

[magic hinge]

I thought I was tripping again

[olive sun]

either u trip or i trip

i trip then

[magic hinge]

Balance has been restored

[olive sun]

the training room challenge bot is like a speed hacker lmao

[magic hinge]

Oh I use him to warm up

Really nice to use

His LS is kinda easy to predict, but other weapons 🙂‍↔️🙂‍↔️

No chance

[olive sun]

sadly most of the stuffs that works in the training room won't works on real matches

combine that to the fact that the bot is literally hacking with its input reading

[magic hinge]

Yeah

[olive sun]

well you can learn some neutral from it ig

[magic hinge]

Parries in training room, so clean and smooth

Parries in game

• hahahaha you didn’t pre input this? You eat blue

[olive sun]

i got hit by 4 consecutive ps blues and died in game

then i headed toward training room too see what was the proper timing to parry ps blues

and i was able to react parry EVERY ps blues the bot throw at me

2A, stage 1 2 3, horizontal and vertical, stoneform

but in game even if i do predict parry it still fails not to mention REACT parry LMFAO

[magic hinge]

I feel you bro

React parries do not exist

Only on the bot

[olive sun]

it's not just that

it's the inconsistency

like every parry is a gamble, you never know if it gonna hit or not

[magic hinge]

Well dodging is a bit better

But with the dodge nerf

Dodging DB and DH has become increasingly annoying

[olive sun]

bruh ofc everyone know that dodging is better but there will be situations that you couldn't dodge but can only parry

[magic hinge]

I meant in consistency

Dodges is a bit more lenient in my experience

Even with rubberband

[olive sun]

ig it's true for solo

for trio tho when you're getting focused it's much harder to escape with just dodges with how bad the rubberbands are

[magic hinge]

Oh yeah trios

The best mode of all time

You either tilt with randoms

Or die having fun with your friends

[olive sun]

i'm tiltproof

when i queue for random trio i know what i gonna get already so i never tilt

tried solo for awhile but i can't seem to enjoy it

i feel lonely

[magic hinge]

Solo is cancer

Nobody enjoys solos

People who say they do are lying

Trust

[olive sun]

[chrome cliff]

solos are for getting mechanically good enough to have a chance in high level trios

most people can't get good at trios by playing trios, they are mechanically challenged and think it's normal not to watch cooldowns of 3 enemies, turn their camera to watch their back, or die in a 1v2

but good solo players can do all of that in trios

trios is just an awful environment to learn trios

so yeah, solo isn't fun, but it's still necessary

[magic hinge]

I understand penemue

Yes it is as you say

Nobody is saying otherwise

[karmic wolf]

Solo is the funnest, idk what you mean, trios feels like a juggle fest at everything that is not top high level

in other subject

I have a question about the hold dodge

we know you can cancel it, right?

what are the actions that cancel the iframes? do changing direction cancel the iframe instantly? or only atks will cancel em

[magic hinge]

Not sure about other actions