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magic hinge
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How insanely good at neutral do I have to be to main tarka

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He seems so hard compared to lyam, Akos or justina

olive sun
lost dagger
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V ultimate. F skill

kind ginkgo
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or was harder*

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tarka does not require superhuman skills or reflexes; people make it harder than it actually is

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the challenge is derived from the fact that he's really weak in the meta, against everything that's played atm

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cuz he does not have tools to skip neutral, cc,....

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neutral has to be good for that reason

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combos with him like the katana tod are in between the easiest do execute in the game

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but, if you dont win neutral u cant start a combo, and here is the difficulty 🙂

olive sun
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lol there's people who's a beast on justina but can't play tarka and vice versa, what's your explanation for it then?

kind ginkgo
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different gameplay

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i also can't play tarka for my life 😆

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and it's not because i dont have neutral, simply i can't stand the playstyle

olive sun
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yeah so you can't really compare tarka and justina for who's harder to play though

kind ginkgo
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you can atm

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justina after buff is way easier with v2

olive sun
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i mean if a mid justina and a mid tarka sure but the best justina vs the best tarka ehhh

kind ginkgo
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at the same time, the mechanical skill required for justina is way higher (higher skill ceiling) around v1

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cuz it requires situation reads, decision making, reaction,...

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tarka does the same, but in a different way

olive sun
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uh huh

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justina v1 and v2 are 2 different characters so we're not gonna talk about v2 here

olive sun
kind ginkgo
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you compare tarka to justina simply because they are known as the more mechanical hereoes

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or the ones you normally dont want to recommend playing when you start the game

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justina less now, with v2, but v1 still is the same

olive sun
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i just find it confusing
op said tarka is hard, you said justina v1 is harder
you said tarka is hard because he doesn't have the tool to skip neutral, then you said justina is harder because ''her v1 requires situation reads, decision making, reaction,...'' which a tarka user also need to be good at because as you said, he doesn't have the tool to skip neutral

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it doesn't make sense

kind ginkgo
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it does

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tarka depends completely on his ult, same as justina

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the difference is that tarka can punch and accelerate in ult; it makes things a bit easier on the neutral side you could say

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justina only has 2-3 dashes

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after that it's gone

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plus you need to cancel them or not cancel depending on what you need to do,...

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then again, it depends on situation always

olive sun
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ah so your point now is tarka got better neutral tool compare to justina?

kind ginkgo
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i'm losing you

olive sun
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i literally just repeating what you said

kind ginkgo
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lemme rephrase it

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both characters are fully dependant on ult; justina's is relatively shorter; u got a fixed amount of dashes and it's gone. tarka on the other hand, has a ult that lasts longer, allowing for more possibilities overall. if you manage to win neutral on any of the two characters, it's easier to kill with tarka, due to the kill potential with the easy infinites. justina requires a more precise series of inputs and knowledge, aswell as fps, that allow to do a double uppercut into stall for horizontal when freeze ends,....

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kill potential is hence lower on justina if you don't know what you are doing

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due to the less long ult, you also have to think and decide when and where to use it, plus need to also adapt to cancel timings,...

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tarka is hard because you need to win neutral, but once you do you win, unless smth u cant control happens

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justina requires skill even after that basically

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better put this way?

karmic wolf
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I am no pro, but since buff, I have seen justinas come ult and win, not sure if I am just fighting very strong players, but that does not happen with tarka atm

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talking solos

olive sun
kind ginkgo
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we are talking about the dashes now 👍

olive sun
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hah, til next patch

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justina v2 rage ban nerfed from 4s to 8s

karmic wolf
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rage ban?

olive sun
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after you cast your V you're banned from gaining rage from attacking/being attacked for awhile

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atm this effect only last for 4s on justina v2

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next patch it get increased to 8s

karmic wolf
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I see, is this mechanic for everyone? like everyone have banrage after ult?

olive sun
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not everyone

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tessa is 13s atm iirc
tarka don't have this, he can keep gaining rage during his V

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characters like zai yoto yueshan tianhai etc got rage ban while they're on their V

karmic wolf
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I see

olive sun
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once they v ran out or they deactive it they can gain rage again

karmic wolf
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no idea this was a thing, what about kurumi and lyam?

kind ginkgo
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lyam can get rage

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it adds charges u can use

olive sun
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nah

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he can gain rage only by picking up soulbloom/firefly

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not from attacking

kind ginkgo
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yep

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that's what i meant

olive sun
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bruh all characters can gain rage by doing that

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i'm talking about the rage ban from attacking/being attacked

olive sun
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tessa used to have a much shorter rage ban duration and her V used to cost just 50% rage

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and she was dominating just like current v2 justina

karmic wolf
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okay so conlusion lyam has banrage too?

olive sun
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yeah, from attacking/being attacked

karmic wolf
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once his ult is over he resumes?

olive sun
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yes

olive sun
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same

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as long as the circle still exist she won't be able to gain rage from attacking/being attacked

karmic wolf
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Okay

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thanks

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tessa ult is so cheap tho, I sometimes forget I can already use it again

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it easy to happen 2 in the same fight

olive sun
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good for you ig

karmic wolf
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not much, since I still suck at taking full advantage of it

viral kiln
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for those interested, i complied every comp played in the jcup wolrd finals from about a month ago, heres an interesting thing on team comps, just a list of every comp played and how many times they were played keep in mind, they played 8 matches, so the data reflects 8 games total:

Tessa, Viper, Wuchen - 21 times
Hadi, Tianhai, Valda - 18 times
Matari, Zai, Ziping - 16 times
Cyra, Kurumi, Takeda - 10 times
Kurumi, Takeda, Temulch - 8 times
Feria, Yueshan, Matari - 2 times
Cyra, Matari, Zai - 1 time
Feria, Matari, Yoto Hime - 1 time
Feria, Hadi, Tianhai - 1 time
Cyra, Tessa, Viper - 1 time
Feria, Tianhai, Yoto Hime - 1 time
Cyra, Takeda, Temulch - 1 time
Feria, Hadi, Zyra - 1 time
Feria, Yueshan, Yoto Hime - 1 time
Feria, Yueshan, Justina - 1 time
Feria, Tianhai, Temulch - 1 time

There are other interesting statistics as well, i counted the number of each time a hero was played, and i kept it seperated per game, some games had 0 hadi's for example, but others had like 5 teams playing hadi. the comps adjusted a bit as the tourney went on but i couldnt see anything consistent other than in the last 3 games of the 8 there was a lot more kurumi's than the first part of the tournament. So it seems like some picks gained priority as it went on, though i didnt really see many strong correlations because its a bit complex when added onto each teams comfort heros, the map of said match and other things

magic hinge
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Essentially the dashes and cancels even if I don’t TOD, I can still use to win neutral

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With tarka though, I feel like whatever I do, I’m always messing things up abd can’t do anything impactful in ult

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I have less hours on Justina, but I usually do better on her than tarka

scarlet dew
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and they need to score MVP (most points in game) after reaching match point to win the entire tourney

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so they saved most broken comp for last games

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last game was a 3 way tie if i remember correctly

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valdas and cyras doing work

chrome cliff
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At least some tournaments work like this, temporary ban of a champion for 1 game

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Or increased cost to pick it

scarlet dew
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e.g. first phase teams pick 4x hadi, he will now have increased cost

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but if they pick him just 2 times

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next phase

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teams can even pick him 4 times

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without extra cost

kind ginkgo
compact ledge
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What’s akos skill u use for solo and duo/trio plz ?

magic hinge
kind ginkgo
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all people i found playing akos were using that

magic hinge
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yeah, I play that

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but i still see more people v2 f2

compact ledge
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Need to train f2 v1 tho , but all of this will depend if I get the muay Thai skin or not 😂

magic hinge
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in solos

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if you miss, well thats tough luck

carmine slate
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hi can u guys help me pls ?

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what are the best glyphs and skill builds for zai and justina gu for duos

kind ginkgo
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this might help

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there are some adjustement to be done, as penemue himself said, but overall it should help you get an idea on what to do 👍

compact ledge
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But when u guys talk about build for character is that for pve things or there s a pvp mode that need to be build before ?

viral kiln
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Anyone else really like wuchen but hate his personality/attitude lol

if i play wuchen i literally have to change the voices to non-english to deal with it

olive sun
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@magic hinge

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gl

magic hinge
olive sun
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😂 ok

magic hinge
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subbed alr

magic hinge
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i was just watching horror clips and this 30 min vid got recced

olive sun
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guess there's not many new naraka contents appear on youtube each day

magic hinge
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usuallz its just infinite and highlights

olive sun
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ye

magic hinge
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this is a super welcome video

olive sun
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that's why i immediately think that you probably want to see this

magic hinge
olive sun
magic hinge
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going to get into the top 500

olive sun
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MatariLaugh gl

solid patio
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How to fight hadi when he has ulti?

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In trio? Do i just ignore him and go for his team?

kind ginkgo
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hard to fight a hadi in ult

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try to either go for the team or disengage and come back when he does not have it

viral kiln
# kind ginkgo hard to fight a hadi in ult

thats how i feel about Zai and yueshan lol they press ult and dumpster my team, cant heal through it even on ziping, maybe standing in kurumi ult would help since the burning damage but other than running, no idea

wraith cargo
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Play shayol ult against Zai MatariLaugh

magic hinge
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I think akos works against Zai

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Not an expert, but I think jumping jumping and claw work to clash or cancel the Zai charge

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Just hop hop claw

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Or if you have v1 just jump on her with that

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If you hit the pounces, she is prob dead

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Correct me if I’m wrong though

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I’m a casual

compact ledge
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The passives we can up 0/3 etc on each character , is useful in battle royal or it’s only for pve étc ?

karmic wolf
karmic wolf
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this guy said that some stuff have change since he made that guide

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so you wanna check a vid about wave roll after it

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not well versed myself in this matter

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yet

compact ledge
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Ok ty , I’m checking rn

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Thanks a lot for all the answers and you time m8

carmine slate
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what are the best skills for viper ning

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for trios

full turtle
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f2 v1 ?

mystic relic
carmine slate
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for lannie ?

little cargo
# carmine slate for lannie ?

For now, she is just out, so there is not really much we know about her. But from my experience with her, for solo you can bring F1 V2 for combo and for trios you can bring F1 V1 for dmg and self healing. But like I said, she is just out, we do not know how well can she integrated into the game

mystic relic
# carmine slate for lannie ?

Probably v1 is better since there will be more ppl around and you get more advantage of the ball bouncing around.

V2 is more single target so I don't think it's gonna be very useful.

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That said I don't play trios nor have I tried her out so this are just thoughts from videos I've seen MatariLaugh

olive sun
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the v2 ball is aoe so if you hit multiple target with it or they stay close enough to the first taget they gonna get staggered too

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imo all of her F and V are viable in trios

kind ginkgo
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no counterplay

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as for the f, it depends on what you need; f1 is a combo break, always useful, but a bit underwhelming, f2 is a combo starter plus a lot of other choses, but taking it leaves you vulnerable to combos i guess

compact ledge
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so easy to out a fight with V lannie xD

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i also got her red skin in like 8 lantern , and i want to threw it

opal depot
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bring back underpowered characters this sucks

mystic relic
kind ginkgo
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Also she is throwing you homing bombs when you try to hit, and it's 500+ dmg on a gold weapon per each hit

mystic relic
kind ginkgo
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U can dodge the projectile, but if you ain't far enough it will bounce at you anyways

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The important one to dodge is the first and second hit tho

kind ginkgo
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My opinion ATM is that she's a bit underwhelming in most situations, namely with V2 and also her combo break and f2 feel a bit weird to play (f2 combo start has close to none auto aim and it has a weird small stagger before)

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Overall she has an insane potential on the other hand 👍

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She's prolly, in my opinion still, I could be totally wrong, the character with the highest possible skill ceiling on the game, because of how the timings and V2 ult work

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V1 it's pretty straightforward

mystic relic
mystic relic
kind ginkgo
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Yepyep

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It's healthy

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Op on the right guy hands, but not for everyone

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(if you want to test her in customs ping me, been looking for people to do customs with for the whole day 🤔😂😂😂)

compact ledge
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Bro Lannie is broken

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How u wana hit this shit on her carpet

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While she s throwing bombes on ur face

kind ginkgo
compact ledge
karmic wolf
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So it seems like she is another "Press this button to win" character, so far?

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I mean I agree is very early to say something, but hoping naraka does not keep following this trend

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Ill be getting very demotivated if she fits in that category too

slate sierra
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Lannie is definitely not press ult to win

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Her v1 is annoying but deals minor dmg and without a coordinated team to capitalize on the staggers her ult is insanely underwhelming

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As for V2, at least in trios you get griefed out of tossing the ball more often than not, and trios doesn’t typically allow for long combos so the TOD potential is quite low unless you find yourself in an unlikely 1v1 situation

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Yes she’s annoying when she flies around on her carpet but she can be shot, I shot a Lannie down earlier with a bow, I assume she could be sniped with something like Tessa ult as well

vague patio
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😄

little cargo
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tho she is not too strong, her V1 duration is not a lot, if she does not know how to capitalized on her V, she could dump all her V1 uses on precise timing just to ditch out damage and healing without contribute to the team by actively peel teammates with it

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Her V1 strongest use for me right now is peel tool

karmic wolf
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as I said, it is pretty early to say anything people need to get use to it

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hope for the best I guess

karmic wolf
little cargo
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I do mean in every sense

little cargo
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She just nope out a recovery animation

karmic wolf
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true free cancel

little cargo
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Tho pretty useless

karmic wolf
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threre must be something, that is worth true canceling

compact ledge
karmic wolf
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happened to me once, I just wanted a gold skin(Which I still have not get btw) and got the red one in less than 20 chest

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Just saying

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Lady Luck exist

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and she does not like me

kind ginkgo
magic hinge
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The new lantern, only wanted the hang sword

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Got 2 yueshan skins

kind ginkgo
karmic wolf
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not if you do not want that

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it just tilt you more

kind ginkgo
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Yueshan is still cool at least

karmic wolf
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I would sell all Yueshan if it was possible

karmic wolf
magic hinge
karmic wolf
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Cyra would be okay, I guess, but not really

magic hinge
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Getting free legendaries in 10 cases is cool

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I just don’t play yueshan

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At all

karmic wolf
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that is why I said, it just tilt you more

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yes legendary

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for what>?

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for the dust?

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the moth

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s

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you cannot even sell em or do anything, haha

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if there was a system where you could trade let say 6 legendaries for a custom pick one

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would be fine, but for the dust monster

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yeah just give me the purple and do not rise my hopes

compact ledge
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yeah i would love to be able to convert red skins for tae or the blue token i dont remember name in elgish

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if we wont it , like being able to melt it into a token

karmic wolf
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silk

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you get silk for duplicates

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do not remember how much but yeah

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thing is you get a lot of duplicates

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there is no fail safe

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I have gotten too many duplicates of the same legendaries

magic hinge
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1600 for epic or leg

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Around that or smth

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We got a matari rework

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A justina rework

compact ledge
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i want more skin for Tarka the actuals one sucks ...

magic hinge
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Will other older characters also get a rework?

magic hinge
compact ledge
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its the only one that is "ok"

magic hinge
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The aquabolt robes are also ok if you pair it with his „wave” hairstyle

compact ledge
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I wanted the gold one hairstyle

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The dragon ball on en

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But not available …

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I was ready to pay

kind ginkgo
compact ledge
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I also want the fire things in my back but not available I need to do torch thing don’t know how to do

compact ledge
kind ginkgo
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nah, this aint going to happen

kind ginkgo
compact ledge
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So if I create like many account it could work ?

magic hinge
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Or Akos v3

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Used super rarely

magic hinge
compact ledge
kind ginkgo
magic hinge
kind ginkgo
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nah

magic hinge
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Tarka is only 24 I think

kind ginkgo
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a lot of ults last 30 sec

magic hinge
kind ginkgo
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dont remember exactly how long they last sry

magic hinge
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Ooo Akos is 35, no?

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Yeah yeah

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But yeah

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I don’t think the nerf is coming

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Female skins sell more def

kind ginkgo
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it's not because of that

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max she they can nerf is maybe the dmg, but then again it's not the issu

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e

compact ledge
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its really the worst feelings to get skins gold and red on all class u are not playing and not on the one u want :/

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got a gold kkurumi i dont fkn care ...

kind ginkgo
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that's an unspoken rule MatariLaugh

karmic wolf
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she is just spreading happiness and a maybe tiny bit of mischief

compact ledge
mystic relic
little cargo
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But only the first hit

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Afterward it kinda just go around

slate sierra
kind ginkgo
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need to test

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sadly still havent been able to go in a custom and test all the interactions yet 😦

karmic wolf
compact ledge
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@karmic wolf do u know about torch rewards if I create accounts and I invite each one is that count for my main account ?

carmine slate
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i need kylin skills for duos

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and glyphs

rocky dove
carmine slate
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glyphs ?

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for kylin

kind ginkgo
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they answered just above 👍

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this will help you, in case

azure grove
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anyone has lannie glyphs ?

carmine slate
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what are the best skills justina for duos

kind ginkgo
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Prolly in 1 week people will have figured her out a bit more 👍

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This video can maybe help you figure out glyphs in general 👍

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They are not that hard overall, once you understand what you want and what you need 👍

still sage
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What ziping F V on solo?

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F2 V1?

carmine slate
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what are the best glyphs viper ning for pve mods

olive sun
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depends on the build

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also you need to understand the character and the build, don't just keep asking ''what's the best for this character''

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spend some time to learn how they works first, then you'll know which one to take on which char

carmine slate
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im a new player bro

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why r u so angry

olive sun
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so?

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angry?

carmine slate
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answer or f off

olive sun
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i'm telling you it's better for you to try to understand the character instead of keep coming in with ''what's the best for this, what's good for that'' kind of question

carmine slate
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i have not good english

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ok ?

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i dont understand everything

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because of just asking

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and try to learn

olive sun
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💀

carmine slate
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i have been playing for 2 days

still sage
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Nice is correct stop being hostile @olive sun

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I need players to play with in the future

olive sun
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i'm being hostile?

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💀

carmine slate
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If you're not going to answer the question, you don't have to. As he said, there's no point in being hostile.

olive sun
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sure, if you guys just want to get an answer for ''what is the best'' without knowing anything about how and why it's good and what you need to do to make it actually good 💀

carmine slate
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Yes, this is exactly the answer I wanted to get.

magic hinge
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I don’t think glyphs affect things in showdown

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There is a different prep system there

carmine slate
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ok bro thanks

wraith cargo
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can you just tap dodge Zai F3?

olive sun
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zai doesn't have F3 anymore

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if you mean F2 then yeah it's react-dodge able

wraith cargo
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ty

kind ginkgo
karmic wolf
compact ledge
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Yeah I tried

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For fire back

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I need to cash shop

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On each account so fu k

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No fire back lol

olive sun
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NOH

karmic wolf
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Is UGLY!

olive sun
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IT'S LUNA THE CRUNCHY CAT

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HOW DARE U

karmic wolf
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Well someone needed to tell luna that its ugly

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you are welcome

karmic wolf
karmic wolf
carmine slate
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I don't understand why they think that way, mate

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I want to play the game. I want to have fun and know what to do.

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But they think I need to have all the information to play the game.

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I'm just asking questions to find out what I need to do.

karmic wolf
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I do understand since I am one of those who likes to read the book, but I also understand we are a minority

carmine slate
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An option like "think and find" is not yet possible for me.

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I have been playing for 2 days bro

karmic wolf
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most people just want a quick answer

carmine slate
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I don't know what each character needs.

karmic wolf
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yeah that will take time

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game has a lot of stuff going on

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do not let this discourage you from asking tho

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people here know a lot

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keep it up

carmine slate
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I know that I will learn in time.

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But for now, I have to ask because I want to enjoy it and so I can learn what each character needs.

karmic wolf
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my early advice with glyph, is tbh

carmine slate
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I understand you too

karmic wolf
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Do not worry about it

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give them a scroll pick the ones who sound cooler, then once you pick your main character

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and understand it better

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give it another go

carmine slate
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sorry mate what does tbh mean?

karmic wolf
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to be honest*

carmine slate
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oh okay

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As I said before, my English is not good.

karmic wolf
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yeah no worries

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is good enough

carmine slate
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That's why I have difficulty understanding it, that's the main reason I'm asking

karmic wolf
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we are having a convo

carmine slate
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thanks mate

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i have to go to sleep now

karmic wolf
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have a good night

carmine slate
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thanks you too

compact ledge
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How to send blessing to the others for the event ?

humble jay
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is there a good guide on how to use tessa? I tried her, but i feel like she has rly low hp

karmic wolf
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every character has the same HP

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1000 base

humble jay
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who should I use as a beginner?(silver)

karmic wolf
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she is very good, but right now we have a couple of characters that are just OP

karmic wolf
humble jay
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alright

humble jay
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im using cyra rn and i feel like shes kinda broken for silver games

karmic wolf
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all characters have the potential to reach highest rank in game

humble jay
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alr

karmic wolf
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she got nerfed several times now, and still very strong

humble jay
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do you know if theres a good tessa guide thats not outdated?

humble jay
karmic wolf
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you have to run, you won't win

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wait for ult to end and engage again

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you need to get use to that in this game

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you need to be good and disengaging

karmic wolf
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movement specially

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so check videos about movement in naraka first

humble jay
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alright

humble jay
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im like using dual blade, dual harvard and staff rn

karmic wolf
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those are good

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once you get more familiar with the game you can start checking more combo heavy weapons like longsword

humble jay
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right that is true, i need to learn combos as well

karmic wolf
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but yeah start learning movement

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its gonna take some practice

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so the faster you start getting use to it the better

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is very important

humble jay
karmic wolf
karmic wolf
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if you search for naraka movement in youtube, you should get some tips on it

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is quiet extensive

humble jay
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alright thx, ill research into it

karmic wolf
humble jay
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bet, will do

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thx!

compact ledge
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The game love me haha

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21 lantern I had red lannie skin

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And polesword red hehe

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F2P only paid season and blaize lol when I see ppl put 500$ for one skin I’m feeling glad to god 😂

karmic wolf
#

game tricks you, got a red in my first 20 pulls, never seen a red again

kind ginkgo
#

How can someone have that luck

little cargo
kind ginkgo
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Game hates me then 🤔🤷🏻‍♂️

magic hinge
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This was my first red, even before the 100 chest immortal treasure one

compact ledge
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I spent like 50€ for pass étc not 1€ in extra chest

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I have one red on the commander forgot his name with the fire spear

1 red on lannie then

And then red pole sword

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And many gold too

But no one red or good gold on my main tarka xd

magic hinge
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I got it for 10

magic hinge
compact ledge
#

New player here, what characters are hyper mobile? I figure Matari is one but are there any others?

compact ledge
magic hinge
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Zai

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Kylin

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Just don’t take tarka

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Justina v1 is also mobile, but there are nuances

compact ledge
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I assume Yoto Hime is similar to Zai’s mobility if you take Yoto’s F1? Or is that version of the skill mainly used to extend combos?

magic hinge
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But yotos ult isn’t very( traditionally) mobile

compact ledge
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Fair enough, thank you es_PeepoSoldierSalute

kind ginkgo
#

Zai isn't considered too mobile either 🤔

magic hinge
chrome cliff
compact ledge
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Tarka ult ultra mobile but ultra skill how u guys rate tarka vs akos in skill u need to perform on each one

rocky dove
#

So for Lannie is it better to enter you carpet ride after you throw the ball in ult to try and interrupt enemy’s trying to focus or just stay mobile and waitish for the ball to return and counter serve?

compact ledge
#

Oh good to know es_PeepoSoldierSalute what about Justina in terms of mobility? Well, I guess her mobility is entirely tied to V1 while her skills are a self root so I guess that answers my own question

magic hinge
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Akos wins, I think

compact ledge
kind ginkgo
#

??

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I just came back, what did I miss?

compact ledge
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Both are so great I ll just focus on tarka rn I have so much to learn haha the gap to improve is giant

kind ginkgo
#

It's a different kind of difficulty

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Tarka I would say it's harder because he has worse moves overall 🤔

compact ledge
#

Yeah you right , it depend on the weapons , jades , armors also in a fight , but I find that tarka as so much potential gap to improve too , it’s so satisfaying to 1v2 into salamander ult lol

mystic relic
#

Go tarka katana infinite, go crazy tarka_run

exotic wigeon
#

how do you know which direction the new characters ults final hit will send

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to combo off of it

kind ginkgo
#

It's hard and precise

exotic wigeon
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I found routes that make it consistent thankfully

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So I don't need to worry about it

kind ginkgo
#

👍

compact ledge
indigo mulchBOT
#

🎉 | Gojo_Saatoru leveled up!
| Level up messages can be disabled for the guild with owo level disabletext

mint mauve
#

kylin zhang's damage is so low in his ultimate, is there something im doing wrong

olive sun
#

still i wouldn't call it ''so low''

mint mauve
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i was on like 3 attack jades

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and then

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i was doing low damage

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the only way to deal actually good damage now is like what

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is ultimate one's 3 attaccks from charged left click?

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so is he not meta anymore

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?

olive sun
#

he wasn't meta for months already

magic hinge
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He’s been nerfed hard for some time

mint mauve
#

who is even meta now then

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if you say matari im yanking myself off the window

olive sun
kind ginkgo
#

You see him used a lot recently in trios as a counter to cyra for example

mint mauve
#

let me guess

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the least fun characters

kind ginkgo
#

His dmg is alright, just not broken

mint mauve
#

are probably the top meta

kind ginkgo
#

Like what?

mint mauve
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like akos hu and then ziping yin and then mahi ?

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i mean hadi

kind ginkgo
#

Nop , way off the mark 🤔

mint mauve
#

Oh?

kind ginkgo
#

Ziping hasn't been meta for a while

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Akos is strong, but not a top hero either, although he falls close

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Hadi it's debatable

mint mauve
#

then who ?

kind ginkgo
#

You still see a lot of lyams for example

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In solos

olive sun
#

this one

magic hinge
#

Prób matari, valda

kind ginkgo
#

Zai for duos and trios is for sure there somewhere

magic hinge
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In solos as least

kind ginkgo
#

Valda is really good yeah, matari fell a bit off

mint mauve
#

valda's ultimate is kinda overpowered

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oh right what about feria shen and lannie

kind ginkgo
#

Lannie early to say, I'd say she's a tier at most ATM, but really stretched

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She has good scenarios, but she also feels a bit underwhelming in some situations

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Wouldn't call her broken, but for sure really technical

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(V2 especially)

magic hinge
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Feria is fun to play

kind ginkgo
#

Valda ult is really strong mostly because of the shield she gets

magic hinge
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But idk if you could call her meta

kind ginkgo
#

And feria is fun yeah, as most heroes

kind ginkgo
magic hinge
#

We talking solos?

kind ginkgo
#

For solos you see her sometimes in competitions like nbpl and such, but aside that not much

magic hinge
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Or like as a whole?

kind ginkgo
#

Wouldn't call her a solo hero, definitely

mint mauve
kind ginkgo
#

For a team mode, it comes down to the composition

mint mauve
#

thats like

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really good in specific situations

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but

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other situations just mediocre

kind ginkgo
#

Yep, exaclty

mint mauve
#

i assume yoto is still sitting at the bottom of the tierlist as usual..

kind ginkgo
#

But her combo potential is insane (Lannie)

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Just really hard in most cases (some elare really easy)

magic hinge
kind ginkgo
#

Her ult is too slow

kind ginkgo
mint mauve
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wasnt

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yoto

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supposed to get a buff

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soon..

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i mean

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rework

kind ginkgo
#

Who knows 🤷🏻‍♂️

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She kind of already got reworked one already 🤔🤷🏻‍♂️😂

mint mauve
#

isnt it confirmed that she will get a rework

kind ginkgo
mint mauve
#

TABBIEE

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i have no idea what im talking about so i'll summon someone who does

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WITH THIS TREASURE I SUMMON @olive sun

kind ginkgo
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Just rumors as far as I know, so nothing confirmed, nor I know any of the sources

mint mauve
#

tabbie said

kind ginkgo
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Then again, I could be wrong

magic hinge
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Get rid of akos v3

mint mauve
#

she's in the devs something list of reowkrs

olive sun
#

she's on the list yes

kind ginkgo
#

But definitely none on the order of priority

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For example on the Devs roadmap just released nothing about a rework got announced

olive sun
#

a zip rework is announced

mint mauve
#

hopefully next one might be her ?

olive sun
#

idk, i made the assumption of yoto rework will be soon because she got a completely diff V on mobile release
as for leaks or official roadmap videos yeah there's nowhere that a yoto rework was mentioned

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we know she'll get it eventually but

mint mauve
#

how come leaks are literally allowed in this server

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arent leaks something likeofficial beta te sters leaking internal info such as characters upcoming kits

mint mauve
kind ginkgo
kind ginkgo
#

?

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I meant as a possible cause for different moveset on the mobile version

olive sun
#

the mobile version come out recently and she got just 2 versions of F and V

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and we know that they're changing all characters on PC to 2F 2V

kind ginkgo
#

👍

olive sun
#

that's why i think the PC yoto rework will got a kit similar to released mobile yoto

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and since mobile yoto was already released i assumed pc yoto will get a rework soon after that but looks like i was wrong

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pc rework schedule has nothing to do with mobile

magic hinge
#

Guys

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I got the red packet second place thing

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And instead of taking the dewy snow valda pose, I got a tarka background

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How much of a miss is it …

kind ginkgo
#

Still a win 🤔🤷🏻‍♂️

karmic wolf
#

Not because it shines is goooooooooooooooood!

indigo mulchBOT
#

🎉 | Loyalight leveled up!

karmic wolf
#

Not now OWO!

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so finally I started to rank up again by actually fighting and not just hiding till the end, I am a legit solar now

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let see how empyrean receives me now

magic hinge
#

Might as well go and rank up myself

karmic wolf
magic hinge
#

Well I always drop hotzones

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Because I always get a second chance anyway

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Good for you though

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Hope to see you in asura

karmic wolf
#

Yeah but after that you can just hide till there is few players left and you get tons of points

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that is what I was doing

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0 kills 3~5 place got tons of points

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haha

magic hinge
#

I’ll make an account and try to rank up solely on surviving

karmic wolf
#

its very easy

magic hinge
#

Peak naraka gameplay incoming

karmic wolf
#

as I said I got to emperyan no problem

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like not a single match I lost points

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I just kept going up

magic hinge
karmic wolf
#

could I beat anyone on the map? nope since solar but I was ranking up

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now I can beat solars legit

magic hinge
karmic wolf
#

im still getting destroyed in immortal war tho

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guys in there are freaking tough

magic hinge
#

Well I got 1 point in immortal war

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So that’s cool

karmic wolf
#

Haha I managed to get up to 19 then go back to 0 again

magic hinge
#

Ahhaha

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Next season then

karmic wolf
#

is over already?

magic hinge
#

Idk

still sage
#

Is matari F2 V2 or F2 V1 in solos?

slate sierra
regal crane
#

What characters are good when played defensively/reactively, or are just hard to kill ?

magic hinge
#

Her ult gives her essentially another health bar

olive sun
#

tbf all characters got their own survival/escape tool

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current best for solo probably cyra v2

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cuz she's mobile, can damage you and heal herself at the same time

compact ledge
#

aint lyam is the best for solo?

olive sun
#

solid but not the best

compact ledge
#

what's ur rank

olive sun
#

mere asura but i can get you a jcup participant who said so, is that enough?

compact ledge
#

i was just curious, my friend, don't need to be angry

olive sun
#

i'm not

compact ledge
#

okay

olive sun
#

well her V kinda is a sign of ''get tf away from me''

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but yeah

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viper, tessa, yoto, shayol prolly got the worst survival/escape tool atm

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shayol on release is so tanky now ppl just laugh at her shield

kind ginkgo
#

Shayol fine compared to others

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Tessa is also great, wym weak survivability 🤔🤔

olive sun
#

great compare to who?

kind ginkgo
#

Yoto I can kind of agree, but f3 is solid survival

kind ginkgo
olive sun
olive sun
#

give me a name

kind ginkgo
#

Good combo break, hits 2 times, ult is also solid as a cc 🤔

kind ginkgo
olive sun
#

''good combo break'' 😂 as if it that's good compare to other's combo break
the ult that enemies can take back their soul to make it stop existing? yeah good

kind ginkgo
#

Better than others 🤔🤷🏻‍♂️

olive sun
olive sun
kind ginkgo
# olive sun that's alot?

I got 1 hand, gimme time to get home and lay down the things I got in my hands and Ill make you a list

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Sounds good?

olive sun
#

sure

compact ledge
#

have anything changed since yueshan matari meta?

olive sun
#

KimchiDerp yueshan was meta?

compact ledge
#

he never was?

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i might be missing something

olive sun
#

in solo he never was

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in trios he only really works with certain comps and still not that good

compact ledge
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was he showdown meta

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can't remember

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tbh

olive sun
#

yeah he's currently showdown meta

compact ledge
#

yeah i see then

#

what's ur top 3 solo, duo? besides cyra

amber geyser
#

good char to rankup in soloq fast?

olive sun
#

solo would be hadi, akos, lyam, matari, valda

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hadi is good for the same reason why cyra is good, you lose you pops ur V and reset the fight
akos lyam matari is just really good at neutral skipping

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though after the lyam V nerf from 3 to 2 uses, i don't think he could be called ''strong'' anymore

compact ledge
#

what about duos?

olive sun
#

imo duo is not a real mode so idc 😂

compact ledge
#

why 😭

magic hinge
olive sun
#

well it's not as single as solo and not as teamwork as trios

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so it's kinda weird

magic hinge
#

there's prob some more comps

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but valda and zai is a solid duo

compact ledge
magic hinge
olive sun
#

2 good solo = 1 good duo team
while 3 good solo aren't equal to a good trios team

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that's what i think of it

compact ledge
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cuz i like how her look

magic hinge
#

tabbie is prob a better solo advisor

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i play tarka and akos

olive sun
#

aside from tianhai, yueshan, kurumi and yoto, everyone else works

compact ledge
#

i see, ty

olive sun
#

viper have the potential to be good but is really hard to play solo

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full offense

magic hinge
#

andd the ult is just an equaliser

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if you have bad neutral, its not saving u

wraith cargo
#

Ziping is good in solos if your strength is neutral

compact ledge
olive sun
wraith cargo
#

but she isn't rly offensive so not the best if you want to rank up quickly with lots of kills per match

compact ledge
olive sun
#

in solo no one cc the enemies for ur slashes

magic hinge
wraith cargo
olive sun
#

he meant zip doesn't have a real engage tool

compact ledge
#

is heng still the best melee?

magic hinge
olive sun
#

hence you want to be good at neutral if you want to actually kill ur enemies

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which make sense to a certain

magic hinge
olive sun
#

but at the same time zip got tools to cover her mistake

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if you're good at escaping

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you can reset the fight multiple times

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and drain out your opponent's resources

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and win through that

magic hinge
#

makes sense why so many pros pick her

olive sun
#

yeah zip playstyle is literally just that

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you go in, even if you're lower on hp no issue

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just keep spacing

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if ur enemy do a heal you annoy them

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if they chase you you run

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and heal back with ur F

magic hinge
indigo mulchBOT
#

🎉 | Aero leveled up!

olive sun
#

eventually enemy will be too low and you're healthy as fuck and now they're fked

magic hinge
#

after i reach asura with tarka, i'll try ziping

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she feels annoying

wraith cargo
#

she is pretty much the opposite of tarka

magic hinge
#

but i think kurumi should be a better annoying opp, no?

olive sun
#

nah

magic hinge
#

or is her ult not as good?

olive sun
#

if kurumi pops her V she's fked

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unlike zip

wraith cargo
#

in solos?

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none of it is as good

olive sun
#

if you met a real good ziping

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you can't catch her, you heal she'll shoot you and disturb it, you chase she run, after awhile you realize you're at 0 armor 50% HP while she's at full

magic hinge
magic hinge
#

but when i look for an armour swap

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its always broken or 0

olive sun
#

^ facing a zip be like

magic hinge
#

The top3 tarka in eu looks so cool with the pink tarka

#

Damn rich people

olive sun
#

tbf not everyone is capable of piloting a character to their max potential
and if you faced a person who's that good then doesn't really matters what character they're playing

#

what we're discussing here about which hero is the best is just about the highest level of gameplay and most of us are not at that level

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ofc there's some characters that is better than others at certain things but if you can't make them works then it's meaningless anyway

magic hinge
#

but overall good to get better

regal crane
regal crane
olive sun
#

but most of us aren't there, so my advice is just don't play characters that are too weak on solo or too hard to make them works then you should be fine

regal crane
#

Thank you

turbid otter
#

I’m a week new to the game and i just hit level 40 to try and get 1v1s against real people to practice but im wayyyy too low in skill compared to others. Any advice for newbies???

#

I’m getting clapped and combo after combo

kind ginkgo
# turbid otter I’m getting clapped and combo after combo
#

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Those will for sure be of help; aside that, I recommend checking out movement guides and, once you are comfortable with the game and the fighting system, also checking out some combo guides (you find pinned in the #🔱┃weapons-combat channel most of the basic combos you can do with each weapon)

kind ginkgo
# olive sun sure

Tessa survivability is better than tarka, viper, kurumi if no ult I guess 🤔. There are other possibilities also I guess, but it's all defined by the game scenario, mode you are playing,... I would say 🤔

#

Then again, these are only my thoughts, I could be wrong on some things

olive sun
kind ginkgo
#

She's decent

#

For combos with the restand

olive sun
#

yes but hard to make her work cuz her kit is full offense

kind ginkgo
#

Yep, same a tarka 👍

olive sun
#

so i don't recommend playing her for newb

kind ginkgo
#

Definitely

#

But that's also why Tessa is a great choice for a starter character

olive sun
#

tarka i'd put him on a specific category where his suvival tool is also his offensive tool

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same with matari

kind ginkgo
#

Combo break can save you in 2 instances instead of 1, ult is very straightforward and spammable, so it requires also less thought 🤔👍

#

(for Tessa)

kind ginkgo
#

So she has more options than tessa

olive sun
#

anyway

#

you said tessa's survivability in solo is ''better than alot of characters''

kind ginkgo
#

((also sry for not answering yesterday, I got home and fell asleep nearly immediately 🤔😅😂))

olive sun
#

and what you just wrote doesn't seems ''alot'' to me

kind ginkgo
#

It was a way to say that she is not as bad as you depicted her to be

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She isn't top meta, but she isn't even close to the bottom either

olive sun
#

i'm not saying she's bad, i'm just saying that she doesn't have good survival tool compare to most of characters
that doesn't make she's a bad hero because survivability is just one of many factors that make a hero good

#

overall rating she's decent absolutely

kind ginkgo
olive sun
#

and the 2 or 3 i mentioned

#

shayol

#

who else

kind ginkgo
#

U tell me 🤔🤷🏻‍♂️

#

Also, I reckon shayol's survivability is arguably better in most scenarios for a 1v1 🤔

olive sun
#

you don't need survivability if your opponent is dead

kind ginkgo
#

We talking about survivability here tho, no? 🤔

#

Or did I totally lose the subject once more?

olive sun
kind ginkgo
#

??

#

You said tarka only again 🤔

#

I didn't mention any hero after that message above 🤔

olive sun
#

because you just mentioned him only?

kind ginkgo
#

???

olive sun
#

?

kind ginkgo
#

I think we are going nowhere here 🤔

olive sun
#

''tessa's survivability is great in solo compare to alot of heroes'' < you said this

#

now who's those ''alot of heroes''?

kind ginkgo
olive sun
#

no kurumi, so tarka and viper

#

that isn't alot

#

doesn't matter what you say

kind ginkgo
#

Plus I guess you could make an in depth analysis for every and each character, but it isn't really my place, since I am not the best person to do so 🤔🤷🏻‍♂️

kind ginkgo
# olive sun doesn't matter what you say

Kurumi is also to be considered, I reckon that she does not disappear from the list of playable heroes in solos 🤔👍👍👍. People like @drowsy dragon like to play her in that mode even if she's not the best hero for the role

#

(sry for pinging you Yuki Kylin_hearty )

olive sun
#

you keep saying her F ''hits 2 times'' when you know that anyone who's been playing this game more than 1 month know not to hit her when she's still got foxfire up

olive sun
#

that's what you're saying rn?

kind ginkgo
olive sun
#

LOL

#

yeah it's pointless continue this, at this point idc what you say anymore when you said ''tessa's survivability is great in solo compare to alot of heroes'' and then only able to name 3 heroes, one of them are not even played in solo

#

''viable'' is not the same with ''you can choose to play them'' because obviously no one forbidding you from doing so

kind ginkgo
#

TBF I reckon I never said anything like "compared to many viable heroes", so... 🤷🏻‍♂️, but then again, it's totally fine if we have different approaches and ideas. Wish you a nice day Tabbie Kylin_hearty

karmic wolf
#

I would side with @olive sun in this, if the profile pic was not so ugly

#

point for eranicks

drowsy dragon
magic hinge
#

Imagine tarka gets a remake

#

And gets his showdown ult for v2

#

And v1 and v3 get combined

#

And they finally add golden focus for the fireball

compact ledge
#

Hey guys

#

What’s ur v f on akos in duo trios plz

#

And does are weapon recommend for akos ? Or no limit

magic hinge
magic hinge
#

and a musket or bow

compact ledge
magic hinge
#

and you can interrupt blue atacks after 2 pounces

#

so essentially a combo starter, no?

kind ginkgo
#

Also I recommend F2 personally, and also V2 can be considered overall

#

But there it's mostly preference

#

F2 is overall better tho, can combo start, extend, has golden focus,...

#

Also deals nice dmg

magic hinge
#

i prefer f1 in trios though

#

you can hit more opponents and get some huge damage reduction

kind ginkgo
#

It's preference at the end of the day

#

Id say that F1 has less options, but then again, if you are more comfortable with F1 then that's the best choice for you 🤔

magic hinge
#

and v1, although only 3 consecutive jumps can deal a lot of damage and fight transformers

kind ginkgo
#

F2 has just more potential

kind ginkgo
#

More control from what I got told

#

(not an Akos player myself, so I base my knowledge on what I've been told by a few Akos mains I know)

magic hinge
#

ive been a v1 supporter since day 1, so im biased

#

i take v2 in solos for mobility

#

and you can also fit a musket or bow headshot after the jump

compact ledge
#

Ok i see ty I’m gonna give a try to akos if I got the skin . Can’t play it naked
Actually on tarka ,I ll test akos , ty

magic hinge
#

akos skin you say?

#

yeah good luck with that ahhaah

kind ginkgo
#

Yep, gl

compact ledge
#

Only in brocart chest …

magic hinge
still sage
#

Whats the recommended setup for ziping in solos?

wraith cargo
compact ledge
#

What’s ur f and V on zai in duo trip plz guys

magic hinge
#

F2 v2

compact ledge
#

Ok that’s the setup I choosed alone so it’s Conforting me lol ty

empty swallow
#

i use f1 v1

#

the heal is more useful than the death protection i think

#

v2 used to be better but the effect was nerfed

viral kiln
empty swallow
#

dont drop the top red for luck

viral kiln
#

Ok, other than that though that’s typical zip for trios?

wraith cargo
#

red and green is also viable in trios and that's what I use

#

going for the discount is also possible

magic hinge
#

I just realised how much range the tarka elbow has

#

I used to think it needed to be point blank

compact ledge
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Im struggling with stamina in tarka ult 1v2 1v3 I’m not good enough lol

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Im thinking to test kylin

magic hinge
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And kylin is not in meta rn, His v2 is pretty bad in my opinion

compact ledge
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I was thinking Kylian was good for duo/trio coz of his ult can also damage and out some one

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I don’t know tarka is my love one but i am very bad on it , I don’t know how to train

magic hinge
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I’d say try out Zai

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She’s pretty easy to use in duo and trio

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I gave a try to zai , but I think the i have to master my choice weapon first on any character Im playin polesword / gs , some times I’m thinking to play polesword and something like dual blade

magic hinge
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Don’t know if ps/gs should be your main weapon

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I always use it as secondary

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But gameplay wise, people who main there weapons are insane

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Not much mobility though, so not my choice

compact ledge
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U mean the big main on polesword/gs are insane ?

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It’s that what I need , a need to know that I have a big gap to improve not a easy thing

olive sun
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ps is op if you could main it

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gs on the other hand, aside from tarka mains no one choose to use it as a primary weapon

compact ledge
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Ok i see I’ll train harder !

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I only have 2 week also on the game so I’m asking many questions and testing sry if I bother you lol

olive sun
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it's ok, you realize there's alot to learn that's a good sign

compact ledge
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Playing tarka and playing ps / gs is A LOOOOT OF WORk Lol

olive sun
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someone couldn't even do that after a thousand games

compact ledge
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At least tarka is saving my money

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Coz all skins sucks rn in shop lol

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Now I just have to decide if I wana play tarka for sur or switching on kylin but look like with « training » tarka will be better to use maybe

olive sun
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well depends on what you want to achieve in this game

magic hinge
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Sure u can have preferences, but try them out

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olive sun
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like you want to win, or just have fun, or the satisfaction when you pulled off a character specific combo