🙎┃character-guides

[slim spire]

duo partner is zai

[rocky dove]

For a zai/rumi F1 would be a strong passive heal while the snap can turn excess healing into armor while F2 is a slower heal and the snap will grant both of you i think 70% dmg reduction for 4 seconds.
F1 has a 10s CD with skill CD
F2 has I think 16s CD with skill CD
As for Ults
V1 will restore armor
V2 will be a Mid Heal w Dmg reduction I think 40%**
So in your circumstances F2V1 would be decent

But most just run F1V1

[slim spire]

thank you 🙂

[compact ledge]

Isn't F1 12s with CD and F2 18s with CD

[rocky dove]

Rumi has a 10s it’s tied with vipers f2 silence

[slim spire]

also what to do when cyra lazers you

i keep dying

[olive sun]

she's purple focus during ult now so

slap her in the face first then run later

[compact ledge]

since when is viper silence 10s CD? Was there a secret patch

they are originally 15s and with CD glyph it becomes 12.3s

always been like that

the same goes for kurumi

[olive sun]

it's still 15s tho?

[compact ledge]

exactly my point

15s and 12.3s if you use -18% CD

its not 10s

[rocky dove]

Might not be 10s but it’s still the fastest CD in game

[compact ledge]

👍

[fiery tusk]

tell your zai to go V2 justina instead

youre welcome

[slim spire]

we play zai/justina & kurumi/wuchen

but we nooobs

[plucky quiver]

The JRMB is true you are uninformed

It’s done in CN it’s done in global it’s done every time in tournaments

👍

It’s done on the training bot too

Low ping high ping medium ping as long as your ping is less than 112 ms you can do it

And I suggest you to read my message again because I have a belief you misread it

[olive sun]

go record a clip of you doing it on the combo bot, i'll wait

[kind ginkgo]

I think it's this last patch that did it?? They also made her ult recover hp 🤔🤷🏻‍♂️ (V3 I reckon, but not sure)

[plucky quiver]

👍

[kind ginkgo]

Well executed 👍👍

And yeah, the jump rmb is totally true

[olive sun]

to me it looks like the bot attempted to do a restand but got pulled back into the attack

but ok, since combo bot can dodge it then you can rest assure that it works on people, and that make fan a valid weapon choice for matari

[plucky quiver]

That’s just fps tbh

Higher fps and the bot won’t attempt that animation at all

[olive sun]

also apparently missing 1 hit on katana vertical charge gonna cut the dmg by 25%?

crazy

[kind ginkgo]

It's fully true

[olive sun]

yeah you said it already

[kind ginkgo]

Yep, felt like It needed to be said once more 🤔👍😅

[olive sun]

sure

bij

[kind ginkgo]

What does this mean? Never seen this 🤔😅

[umbral monolith]

any tarka gamers able to tell me what makes tarka refuse to punch and sidestep dodge instead while ult is active?

[kind ginkgo]

Don't do a double dodge

If you chain 2 dashes in a row it will result into a punch

Either repair dodge if you want to avoid it or heal dodge, bomb dodge,... 🤔

Or do a single dash

[umbral monolith]

so if i click dodge twice fast enough i can fuck myself over

and have to trust the game to register the one tap i do

[kind ginkgo]

Yep, exactly

[kind ginkgo]

It will 🤔👍

Need to work a tiny bit on the timing, but it can queue the input for a short amount of time

[umbral monolith]

it decides not to a lot of the times on dodges and parries, i wish i could be optimistic enough to believe you

[kind ginkgo]

Depends when you are dodging

In tarka ult you can dodge out of most combos even

Just because it is that fast

You can dodge outside of a party stagger and punish them even 🤔🤷🏻‍♂️

[kind ginkgo]

If it does not, it means that you are doing smth wrong with the dash, or that you are in a combo 🤔

Also, u can spam the dash button, the second dodge will queue only if you press it once again while mid dash

[umbral monolith]

nah i dont even mean while ulting as tarka, just during the game

[kind ginkgo]

You tend to dash after getting hit once?

Or try to anticipate it and still get caught?

First case, you are staggered, meaning that most of the cases you cannot do anything until the combo is done (either 1-2 and you can dash before the third hit, or after a vertical hit, or after hitting the ground after the combo)

Second case, it's a timing and ms matter

[umbral monolith]

i understand the concept of true combos, but sometimes i cant dash out of not true combos

like 2x vert dual blades hit

[kind ginkgo]

2x vertical blades and halberds hits is true 🤔👍

[umbral monolith]

then its wonderful they always dodge out of mine when i do it

[kind ginkgo]

Vertical hits always combo with 1 followup hit either horizontal or vertical

If the dash out it's either that they have lower ms compared to you or that they are heavily lagging

How much ms do you have?

[umbral monolith]

Yeah I mean 2x vert into uppercut

I've got 30-40 ms usually

[kind ginkgo]

ACCA or ADA with vertical hits, unless it's a longsword u can't do

[umbral monolith]

I dash before the uppercut, my stamina gets eaten, I get rubber banded back into an attack

[kind ginkgo]

It's decent enough 🤔

[kind ginkgo]

Are you tap dodging or hold dodging?

If you do what you are describing you are most likely hold dodging I would say 🤔

Less I frames, and easier to catch

[umbral monolith]

Tap ofc, whenever I want to get out

[kind ginkgo]

Then smth is wrong with the timing 🤔, and prolly direction

Hard to say without any clips showing the issue tho;

[umbral monolith]

Yeah I mean everyone kinda knows it's quite shit when it comes to latencies in this game

[kind ginkgo]

🤷🏻‍♂️

I had those problems at the beginning; with practice and experience now I don't have them anymore

Except in some specific cases

Id say that it's about 70% skill and 30% or lower ms based 🤔👍

[sacred zodiac]

https://medal.tv/games/naraka-bladepoint/clips/jqcWFggP0PInoc7mR?invite=cr-MSxFTmEsMjE5NjA5ODU3LA

[kind ginkgo]

Well executed 🤔👍

[sacred zodiac]

its a easy combo for a new player @hot raven

[kind ginkgo]

Not really 🤔

Carousel after 3 grapple bumps ain't easy

Plus it's extremely FPS dependant

[hot raven]

nah, I tried but have issues with controller 🥲

[kind ginkgo]

Same goes for double uppercuts

Easiest is the standard one, if you are looking for the easiest Justina ult combo that is also Tod. But definitely not for beginners

[kind ginkgo]

Carousel isn't a beginner combo 🤔🤷🏻‍♂️

[storm nacelle]

kylin zhang guide?

[kind ginkgo]

what are you looking for? combos or gameplay in general?

[storm nacelle]

both

i do not know about those status points at all

[kind ginkgo]

status points? u mean the glyphs?

i recommend checking the pinned comments of this channel, there are pages for all heroes 👍

[storm nacelle]

allright thanks

[kind ginkgo]

combos are all of the f2 (choke) ; but for starters consider that after u throw the enemy in the air, you get a free 1.0 focus charge 👍

on any weapon

[storm nacelle]

i found the guide,ty

[kind ginkgo]

np

[karmic wolf]

I guess everything is easy at 200+fps you just mash the button the stuff do its thing

[kind ginkgo]

It's easier, not easy

You got more options, but it's not easy either

[empty swallow]

I see this misconception often lol

From ppl who play at low fps

They think the game plays itself for you

It's better for sure and in naraka it is literally faster

But not to the extent ppl think

It's still you who has to do all of the execution

[karmic wolf]

well To be completely fair, I am not saying this as a misconception I went thru the change, I played with 60, and felt very dumb cuz I was having very hard time with combo, jumped to 120, got everything first try, soo....

https://tenor.com/view/steve-harvey-im-just-saying-wait-just-saying-gif-16943701

[empty swallow]

It's still doable at 60fps

[karmic wolf]

way harder

[empty swallow]

But yes it is better at higher

You need to be more precise with ur timings

[karmic wolf]

and not consistent

so yes it is waaaay easier the higher the frame rate

not a misconception

I went thru it

[empty swallow]

"you just mash buttons, the stuff do its thing" is a misconception

higher fps being better and faster is true

[karmic wolf]

To me it felt that way, cuz as I said got everything first try, just doing a sequence

[empty swallow]

eranicks plays at like 60-70fps

and he does long ass combos consistently

just tighter timing that requires more effort

[karmic wolf]

he does not plays at 60 he told me himself

[empty swallow]

oh did he upgrade his pc?

good for him

[karmic wolf]

that when he got the combos till he got over 80

[empty swallow]

how much fps u get now?

[karmic wolf]

I get 120 now

[empty swallow]

60 to 120 is a pretty substantial change

though if u went to like 200

u'd see a change again

that it's even better

maybe in custom u could get 200

i get 120~ in matches and 200 in custom

[karmic wolf]

I have it capped at 120

[empty swallow]

i think u should uncap it

in naraka, no matter what ur refresh rate is, u benefit from higher fps

it acts as a speedhack in a sense

[karmic wolf]

Yeah many have told me that, but for me is better to be consistent, like I do not want to get use to idk let say 160 in some situation just for me being unable to maintain that rate in others

IDK if I make sense

since there is no way my PC can consistently run higher than 120 in most scenarios

[empty swallow]

well use what feels good for u

[karmic wolf]

and 120 let me do everything pretty easily now, just having issue with the double launcher ones for now

[empty swallow]

that's at the end the most important thing

what feels good FOR U

i dont even use the double launch combos

i cant get them consistently

i get what ur saying

u dont want inconsistent feeling or looking fps

u want to get used to one number and stay at that

[karmic wolf]

Exactly

[empty swallow]

what cpu do u have?

[karmic wolf]

after all from my experience it just gets easier, so if someday I can get 240 consisten, it just will be easier

AMD Ryzen 5 5600

[empty swallow]

well if youre looking to upgrade for naraka fps

i recommend an X3D cpu

those can go insanely high because games love 3d cache

depending on how high u wanna go, there's 5700x3d, 7800x3d, 9800x3d that i'd recommend rn

so just keep that in mind for the future

[karmic wolf]

I will, thanks

[empty swallow]

like 9800x3d could go up to 500fps in customs i think

[karmic wolf]

lol

thats crazy amounts

[empty swallow]

and around 250 in matches

it really is

it kicks the ass of everything intel has to offer

[karmic wolf]

you have one of those?

[empty swallow]

nope

[karmic wolf]

x3d I mean

[empty swallow]

i bought intel before the x3d chips got big

[karmic wolf]

Ohh, I see

[empty swallow]

so i'm thinking of changing soon

to 9800x3d

it would literally be a 2-3x boost in cpu bottlenecked games

[karmic wolf]

damn, do let me know how it goes when you get it

[empty swallow]

jaan already made a performance report on it

if ur interested

[karmic wolf]

have a link?

[empty swallow]

https://discord.com/channels/750237703739539497/1306527742984061000

[karmic wolf]

Thanks Ill check em when I wake up

https://tenor.com/view/sherlock-benedict-cumberbatch-hat-tip-greetings-smile-gif-4268618

[empty swallow]

its quite long so

here is screenshot from real use scenario

to keep it simple

[karmic wolf]

is he in a fight there? or just walking alone

[empty swallow]

dont see any enemies

[kind ginkgo]

With that you would be even more op 😱😱😱😱

Save us poor noob souls Marko 😱😱😱😱

[empty swallow]

bro is hyping me up

like he isn't a beast as well

[kind ginkgo]

i aint, this is objective facts 🤔

[ornate heart]

There's a cultivation quest on Matari, where player should disturb the birds once using ranged weapon atop a tree

How do you that?

What birds?

[olive sun]

some trees got birds
you shoot them

[karmic wolf]

shoot dem spy drones

[ornate heart]

Alright, thanks

[magic hinge]

when will the valda and cyra be fixed

i hate fighting somebody and then getting 12k damage with 0 kills

[umbral monolith]

what about them

[magic hinge]

valda in solos is pretty busted. A second hp bar and 3 stuns

cyra is just cyra

[umbral monolith]

valdas ult spears are quite easy to dodge

[magic hinge]

the spears are ok, although annoying

the second healthbar is straight up maddening

[umbral monolith]

then yueshan and monk are also busted if we follow that

[magic hinge]

yueshan and monk are super immobile in ult?

and if you are in a building, just run behind a wall or smth

[umbral monolith]

idk, theyre obviously strong but i dont think theyre ridiculously broken

otherwise people wouldnt play anything else

imo the biggest issue comes from the latency still, like you think youre hitting the valda and staggering her and it turns out she managed to click F and stuns you midcombo

or high ping cyras are shooting their lasers in 5 different directions and youre playing a guessing game which one deals damage

[magic hinge]

Have you played solos recently?

It's currently very meta so you meet at least 4-5 Valdas and cyras

[magic hinge]

this happens sometimes, but I think it's a bug

[magic hinge]

teleporting cyras yes, multiple lasers noi

[kind ginkgo]

This is not a thing 🤔

[umbral monolith]

it very much is

[umbral monolith]

yes

[kind ginkgo]

Either you are at 10000 ms or it's not a thing

[umbral monolith]

im at 40, my enemy is at least 80

[kind ginkgo]

Cyra can only shot 1 beam

[kind ginkgo]

80 is not that much to create that effect

U need over 200 minimum

[umbral monolith]

brother i know she can only shoot one

what i mean is the visual thing

[kind ginkgo]

Never seen that happen 🤔

If you have a clip or an image of it I would really be interested in seeing it; cuz if it happens it's 100% a bug, and it needs to be fixed asap

[umbral monolith]

will do next time i face opish on eu solos

[kind ginkgo]

Ty 👍👍

[magic hinge]

Same

never saw something like that

[karmic wolf]

I do agree that all that HP pool is ridiculous without any drawback the transformation ones are fine valda is not

make her slower while riding a wave or something

[rare mulch]

hopefully this is an OK place to put this - recently uploaded a Temulch Guide (F1V3): https://youtu.be/B8wAuUpOdxk?si=3d92l0wujEu7Rjlb

[indigo mulch]

🎉 | Luther leveled up!

[kind ginkgo]

Really well done! Nice job 👍👍

@compact ledge this would prolly be a nice pint to add; it's well made and in depth 🤔👍👍

[compact ledge]

Done

[rare mulch]

🙏

[vernal scroll]

Anyone glyphs and skills orders for Akos Hu pls? 🙂

And i have one more question, for a solo quick match wich characters have a significant potential?🤔

[kind ginkgo]

Not healers, not transformers, the rest is all fine 🤔👍

[kind ginkgo]

#🙎┃character-guides message

Here

[karmic wolf]

Isn't Ziping good on solos?

[kind ginkgo]

Not in the current meta I would say 🤔, she has place, but wouldn't call her a good solos pick overall, if not for her survivability

[vernal scroll]

Aight, gotcha, make sense tho, but about healers like kurumi for example still have some damage🤔

[karmic wolf]

Kurumi damage?, IDK if you are getting the name wrong, but she is literally the worst of all of em in solos, Kurumi is the one with the umbrella

I like Kurumi but using her in solos is just for extra challenge

[vernal scroll]

Oh shesh, my bad xd

I tryna' find the character thats suits me for now in solo, in duos/trios i take yueshan or yoto often, i am still in learning for all of the game means tho xd :))

[karmic wolf]

yeah the learning curve is steep

just keep it up

Im still learning myself and Im like 100 hours in

that is part of the fun, tho

[vernal scroll]

True xd

[kind ginkgo]

Kurumi deals 0 dmg 🤔👍

Only healing

With abilities I mean, clearly

[karmic wolf]

less than 7 hours of sleep?

https://tenor.com/view/not-okay-at-all-officer-jenson-beauty-in-black-it's-not-going-well-netflix-gif-2797821087720299265

Im gonna need that phone

[chrome cliff]

what do you like in other games?

[kind ginkgo]

?

6 is usually fine for me

bad habits developed in uni 😆

[karmic wolf]

Undevelop them then

https://tenor.com/view/gosh-napoleon-napoleon-dynamite-gif-5699289

[magic hinge]

I did not sleep today to finish my project

The struggle is real

[mystic relic]

Depends on what you’re looking for

If you want some with some mobility and dmg you could go for: tarka, zai or hadi

For high mobility you'd want something like matari or justina

From the transformers I feel like Feria or Yueshan are solid picks. And cyra for healers. But I'm not entirely sure about these picks

Valda and Shayol can be good but good players are good at dodging her ult. Same with tessa

[kind ginkgo]

Hopefully it went well 👍👍

[magic hinge]

I got a 14 on my defence

[magic hinge]

So it did

[kind ginkgo]

Nice

[karmic wolf]

what is a 14? what kind of sick system you use? what is wrong with decimal?

https://tenor.com/view/triggered-triggering-intensifies-rage-gif-15297552

[strong eagle]

in germany we got both 0 - 15 points (worst - best) and 1 - 6 grade (best - worst) XD

[indigo mulch]

🎉 | petörn leveled up!

[karmic wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/frasier-stop-it-stop-the-madness-look-at-yourselves-gif-8714189

[fiery yarrow]

Is Cyra getting nerfed this update?

[chrome cliff]

No, there aren't that many big balance patches tbh

There is maybe 1 big balance patch every quarter

And a couple of small ones with hotfixes or tweaks

But it's my understanding that they decreased the frequency of big balance updates a while ago

[fiery yarrow]

[magic hinge]

I seem to be thinking that the biggest nerfs are always male characters

Zai, Cyra and Valda seem to still be unnerfed compared to Kylin, Hadi and Lyam

[kind ginkgo]

It really depends on the meta

Lyam is still the same as he was pretty much

Kylin was too strong, needed that one

Zai is not as strong as you think overall 🤔; cyra got nerfed pretty heavily in the most recent patch, since you can now interrupt her ult

Hadi was wayyy too op too; he also got buffed a tiny bit and came back to dominate the meta 🤔🤷🏻‍♂️😂

[karmic wolf]

I remember he was mash to win at some point. Now you barely see him, what did they took away from him?

[kind ginkgo]

V2 speed, distance traveled, dmg👍

[karmic wolf]

so everything, haha

good, had it coming

now do that to zai

[slate sierra]

I honestly think one of the most oppressive parts of zai ult is simply how long it lasts. I think if they just hit the ult duration that would be a good first step and see how she performs from there.

[chrome cliff]

Many ults are 30 seconds, it's not that special tbh

[fiery yarrow]

Part of it because female hero’s outfits sell better. But Cyra is overpowered in trio and game sucks now.

[mystic relic]

But not many ults last 30 seconds, has gold and purple focus, burn dmg, stun, and let's you heal with certain attacks

I don't think the problem with zai's ult is it being 30 second but the whole package

[chrome cliff]

the last time i recall zai was strong was in zai/ziping/hadi and zai/valda/hadi meta

it's been a while

that was mostly because of OP hadi v1 and because there weren't many other strong characters

right now cyra is the most annoying

and when justina v2 got changed, many people were playing tessa/justina/kurumi or tessa/justina/cyra in trios

tessa/justina are annoying to fight because they keep ulting, and once they are scaled with aoe jades and high damage jades like jabbing, it's very hard to win

comps like this used to get countered by transformers, but now it's pretty easy to fry a monk, yueshan or feria mech

although feria is still the best out of these 3

you gotta be really good at monk to get value out of running him atm

[mystic relic]

I was talking about zai in general but rn the meta comp for trio is zai, matari, kurumi

Using matari's v1 for the cd reset and healing by attacking (although it only lasts 12 seconds)

[chrome cliff]

regarding male vs female character comparison, i think if you are a solo player and only running male characters, you will do a lot better compared to someone only running females

lyam, hadi and akos are very strong in solos

[mystic relic]

Basically zai becomes a tank in that comp bc of the amount of healing

[chrome cliff]

anything with cyra should beat the zai comp

not sure why you would run matari when you can run cyra in that slot instead

[mystic relic]

This comp was prior cyra and the reason why is bc, like I said, matari offers a skill reset and makes it so that every attack you land heals you

That's why ppl starting run this comp in tournaments

Idk if they have changed it after cyra but this has been the meta for trios as of late (late prior to cyra)

[kind ginkgo]

Also last season, with valda matari ziping

[chrome cliff]

i'm aware of the theory, although the viper counter aspect is likely more important than the heal

i just can't imagine that it's better than anything with cyra

that's why i wouldn't call it meta

and without tournaments, it's hard to tell what iw meta is

[mystic relic]

Idk but there's must be a reason since one of the most popular picks for tournaments

Like this from the trios jcup final

In fact one of the teams has cyra instead of kurumi

[chrome cliff]

cyra was buffed after jcup afaik

[mystic relic]

Idk maybe its just a preference from them

[fiery yarrow]

Cyra in trios is nonsense. The dazzle with the duration, extensive mobility, and the orbits has a lot of damage. Some balance is needed. Literally every team has Cyra now.

I actually don’t think Kylin/Hadi was as bad as this

[olive sun]

the most stupid thing about cyra is if you got dazzled you gonnna eat the full beam damage and also the burst beam at the end

it's a chain cc that is unavoidable and deal fk tons of damages

[hollow quarry]

what character will you all recommend to an obsolute newbie, that wants to do a lot of damage.

[kind ginkgo]

zai

[opal depot]

feria gameplay is pretty forgiving

[magic hinge]

Feria is peak

[chrome cliff]

Feria for trios is one of the hardest characters in the game but ok

Shiny pokemon level rare opinion)

[wraith cargo]

Could you explain why you think she is hard pls? I feel like I agree, tried to play her but my positioning and all just feels wrong but I can't rly make sense of it. It feels shallow and unoptimized.

like hit enemy with silence, collapse on that target and use v when teammate's cd are down or to get out of sticky situations but sth feels amiss

[olive sun]

if you know that this is what you should do then you're better than 90% of the ferias out there already lmao

[magic hinge]

Third partying as a Feria 📈📈📈

[opal depot]

She just has a lot of survivability which is what matters if you’re totally new imo

[chrome cliff]

i mean, if you want to play her optimal, you should almost never take mech yourself

it's for teammates, and while they are inside, you farm up the next one to make an ult rotation

the f3 is not a combo breaker

and everyone on the enemy team recognizes you as support and focusses you

surviving as feria is like playing a character with no abilities

and feria executions are mechanically hard to do, you need good aim

it's like a minigame separate from the rest of naraka

here are some examples https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nAnY-7c6w4

[scarlet dew]

if someone is asking for hero for bad/new player, feria is good pick

she can mech for herself and survive for 30sec while doing some damage

its already a W

[chrome cliff]

beginners can play her with f1 and v1, but it's pretty far from optimal feria

[scarlet dew]

beginners will do nothing optimal anyway

they will need a few thousand hours before they reach this point

for beginner best heroes are ones where u can survive and be useful to the team

valda, feria, cyra

u can maybe also make a case for low level lobby where everybody is bad, then some heroes like maybe zai or something can get away with some good output too

where nobody knows what they doing

[wraith cargo]

yeah, I'mnot spending enough air time and too little ranged. Thanks a lot, that helped

how is your dmg with feria as support compared to ziping as a sup in trios?

[chrome cliff]

i don't play ziping atm, because she dropped out of the meta

but good damage for kurumi is 14k+ and good damage for feria is 20k+

average

in my opinion

there are always cracked people who can do better

[magic hinge]

How much heal should a kurumi be giving?

[chrome cliff]

20k+ average I'd say

In games with group heal up to 50k

Yesterday I had a Feria game with 48k heal

53k was my highest so far, unsure if it was on kurumi or ziping

[magic hinge]

Any tips on healer? I used to play carry, but now I’m trying to play heal and support more

[full folio]

guys im still thinking of downloading the game, is it p2w?

[magic hinge]

no

[full folio]

okay good, what is it about

[chrome cliff]

pay to look good

[magic hinge]

You play at night?

I think I met u playing Tessa in solos

[chrome cliff]

Last night I was until like 2:30 cet or so

[magic hinge]

Talk about a sleep schedule

[chrome cliff]

i restarted stream afterwards for some attila XD

and went like 2 hours more

[wraith cargo]

Are Akos, Liam and Justina the best characters for solo atm?

[olive sun]

lyam is mediocre
top 3 prolly cyra, hadi and akos

[wraith cargo]

how is cyra good in solos?

[chrome cliff]

Lyam is really good

I wouldn't put Justina into the top3

Not even top5 tbh

If Justina hits a combo, she can infinite with her ult, but her ult is not a combo starter

I think many people misunderstand Justina

Justina can sometimes start a combo from rubberbanding the enemy

But that's not intended, it's a side effect of underdeveloped infrastructure in the west

[olive sun]

she lose she gonna pops her V, you're guarantee to lose to her during her V so your only choice is to run, hide and heal up, but she can chase, damage you and heal herself at the same time

[wraith cargo]

kinda sounds like a new zai

makes sense though, thank you!

[olive sun]

first we got grounded zai, then we got flying zai and now ironman zai

[devout onyx]

Guys can i ask showdown related questions here or is there a channel for that?

[olive sun]

#👾┃showdown

[magic hinge]

Justina has got to be the greatest third party in game

with feria

[chrome cliff]

tessa is better for third party situations

[magic hinge]

PEAK NARAKA

cant really ban them or anything

[midnight grove]

tarka v1 or v3 for solos?

[kind ginkgo]

v1 always

[tepid dirge]

Use the 3rd option of his skills , choose the 2nd ultimate in his skills options , with the preparation meant for rage recovery

You gonna spam Fireballs

[hoary lagoon]

Which is the best skill for Wuchen f1 f2 v1 v2 ?

[worn spindle]

f2 with the healing blades cuz f1 is basically a combo extender for the enemy icl(idk if they changed it recently cuz i havent played)

i think the v2 is the blade storm one use that for solos

[kind ginkgo]

The swap got buffed a lot

Now they cannot interrupt your to nor hit you before you can ddoge

ATM it's still teleport and blades that are better for a solos / duos perspective 🤔👍

Shield blades also work due to the focus state u are when casting them

[worn spindle]

always been against the tp blades

this still hasnt changed anything for me

i just want my clank blades

[kind ginkgo]

😂😂

[worn spindle]

might consider playing naraka when they give me back the old wuchen f1

[kind ginkgo]

just remove the stabby ult and i'm fine with it 👍

[light matrix]

Guys is temulch good for trios? And which skills do you recommend

[olive sun]

temmy was always solid
F1 V3

[wraith cargo]

Which skills for Akos solos and how exactly does his ult work?

[worn spindle]

the paw slam idk which f that is or the focus roar which changes focus the more u charge it

for the pounces jump twice i think (havent played akos in a long time) then right after u land press lmb for it

i uninstalled naraka so i cant even check

😭

[wraith cargo]

dw. I appreciate the help

[kind ginkgo]

F2 v2

F2 being a soft combo breaker, a combo starter and a combo extender 👍

[wraith cargo]

how can it be used as a combo extender?

[kind ginkgo]

Aim on the ground when the enemy is in the air, it will throw them up again

[wraith cargo]

I'm too stupid for this 😅

is it uppercut, grapple, bumb, f or uppercut, land f or sth like that?

I'm either too close or I sent them flying

[kind ginkgo]

I'll send you a clip in about 2h when I am free, is it aight?

[wraith cargo]

that's great, thank you!

[rare mulch]

please check pinned messages if looking for more f1v3 info that @olive sun mentioned, I recently posted a guide

[kind ginkgo]

here an example

[wraith cargo]

thank you

[kind ginkgo]

one sec, wrong clip 😆

[wraith cargo]

I didn't know you can charge his f

[kind ginkgo]

here you go

[kind ginkgo]

yes, it's the golden focus part that is important

[magic hinge]

I swear to god

Bots can do grapple combos

Maybe it was random

Maybe it was luck idk

I played hard mode bots

And 1 time caught a bought doing a grapple combo on another bot

I saw that shit

This better not be a hallucination

[olive sun]

you need a sleep

that's enough naraka today for you

[magic hinge]

Nah, but that was as real as it gets

I thought I was in solos ranked, but no

Sure enough it was bot mode

I was a real grapple combo

[opal depot]

bots deserve grapple combo imo

they were like kind of surprising when they got the ability to ult, (not that they can use them properly), but they're boring again

[magic hinge]

They can ult, no?

[opal depot]

yeah they couldn't before

at least i'm pretty sure they couldn't

[magic hinge]

Oooh, didn’t know that

[opal depot]

now they can ult and stand still as you kill them

[magic hinge]

If anybody sees a bot randomly grapple combo

Ping me, so I can know, that I’m not hallucinating

But now, I’m going to sleep

Gn

[karmic wolf]

He is tired, do not listen to his madness

[loud ledge]

I have seen it several times. Even when I last played which was like a year ago when 2B came out

[remote hazel]

hi all, if I use matari with f1 and ultimate is on, which focus levels can f1 interrupt?

[kind ginkgo]

All

It's a instant golden focus with priority

[lime nest]

Any recommendation for zai solo glyph?

[kind ginkgo]

#🙎┃character-guides message

Check here 👍👍

[junior hare]

It happened to me as well but in Solo ranked

I have a clip but I can't post it but if u want to see it i can send you it

[magic hinge]

Let’s gooo

[magic hinge]

Don’t need it

[magic hinge]

Hell yeah

[kind ginkgo]

They can't 🤔

They can now scalerush, but grapple combos still cant

[devout onyx]

Do you know why for Matari and Cyra i would take the grappling side of skill tree?

[kind ginkgo]

So, grappling part is important because of the second node, the one that gives extra grappling range

You go all the way because u want the skill CDR, and since you went into ult, you cannot add stamina aswell

On a scale, stamina is good, but grapple range comes more in handy usually 👍

[devout onyx]

Ok

[kind ginkgo]

Some people, me included, sacrificed some of that red part to get a full stamina and only half grapple, but it's personal preference

What I listed before are general rune pages 👍👍

[devout onyx]

For matari i went full ult and full red

purple*

[kind ginkgo]

Purple I wouldn't personally recommend 🤔

For matari especially, u want to play around ult yeah, but your strongest tool is the f

So you absolutely want CDR on that

Also, purple tree is somewhat decent, but it requires you to always parry, so it's kind of risky 🤔

I do appreciate it tho; I've been trying to cook up a purple build myself 😂😂

Cuz it sounded fun overall

[devout onyx]

i was focusing on the Soulbloom essence part, because most o ftime i use it as a quick heal during a fight but I realized i could potentially recieve good buffs instead of only heals for my fight

[kind ginkgo]

soulbloom essence part isnt that bad, but it's way worse compared to what other offer 🤔

especially because it requires you to always kill someone in order to make it work

[magic hinge]

Tips on hadi

How to maximise damage in ult or how to fly far away

I swear every character except for lyam, Akos, Valda and Zai

I just forget to use ult and then die

[olive sun]

hadi got sooo many gameplay footage out there

https://www.youtube.com/@NarakaAutoReplays

check out this channel

[magic hinge]

After all my time playing on Akos

I finally realised that 1000+ hero coins are there to buy new characters

Still refuse to unlock Cara

[karmic wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/hoarder-kitchen-mess-hoarding-this-is-my-kitchen-junk-gif-24002883

[magic hinge]

Whoever the top 1 hadi on eu server is

[dull tusk]

How to fight Tarka Ji in ultimate? It seems a good Tarka Ji player can pretty much solo 3-4 team fighting

[magic hinge]

Run awaaaaaay!

In solos at least

[little cargo]

If you fight him solo, trade V with him, trying to winning neutral against Tarka in V is like trying to playing rock paper scissor while the opponent can cheat changing answer and delay their answer

[magic hinge]

Btw

I just realised that you can run v2 and have f1 spam

[lyric zinc]

Tarka ult isnt hard to fight, since it has many problems in it, one of them being that almost every other ult can fuck off he's ult

[magic hinge]

Unless you are fighting ult vs ult, if the the tarka ultra first

Just run

Having the guy being able to run away forma counter in not very fun

Or play valda and have more hp+ stun

Or Feria and just not get staggered in mech

Losing your ult against a tarka is not very fun, because a third party Justina can clean u 2 up very fast

[weak cloud]

@static flame

[olive sun]

yeah then dies from a tarka with gs attack cancel

lol

how is justina v2 counter tarka? what are you even talking about?

[magic hinge]

Like I said, just run away from tarka

[magic hinge]

He probably meant, use the freeze and just stand in there

Use it like a wall

[olive sun]

and gets shots to dead, brilliant idea

[magic hinge]

Well you aren’t standing still

You can use it to win time

And run away

:))))

[olive sun]

you won't

[magic hinge]

I will

[olive sun]

because tarka ult last so much longer

[magic hinge]

How long?

Usually the tarka doesn’t chase you for too long

Because if he loses too much time in ult, and a 3rd party sees him

[olive sun]

v1 24s in solo, 30s in trio

[olive sun]

why is this about a 3rd party now?

and why a 3rd party didn't attack you but the tarka?

[magic hinge]

Cuz I didn’t ult

[olive sun]

so you didn't ult and you're able to escape from a tarka who's on his ult without taking damages from him?

[magic hinge]

This is like the Zai situation all over again

[olive sun]

at that point you're just outskilled him so hard

and if you outskilled him that hard doesn't matters what you do, you'll win anyway

[magic hinge]

Don’t know

[olive sun]

back to the topic

there's no ult in this game that ''counter'' tarka ult

so stop saying that

[magic hinge]

If I see him ult

[olive sun]

at best you can pop ur ult and he gonna run away from you, so you 2 trade ult

but that's it

[magic hinge]

And I’m not in the immediate range of him, I can usually circle around buildings and win some time and get away

[olive sun]

yeah and he's able to get away from you too

so he lose his ult but keep his life

[magic hinge]

I am saying that you should run away

Why are you saying this to me

[olive sun]

because you're defending the person who said justina v2 counter tarka v

[magic hinge]

That’s what I said, you trade ult or run away

[olive sun]

when it isn't

[magic hinge]

Tell the other guy

[olive sun]

i did

[olive sun]

if you didn't reply to me why would i talk to you

[magic hinge]

Fair

V2 is just 16 seconds of freeze

You can probably get away with it

[sharp ibex]

teinhai build?

[olive sun]

yeah technically speaking on any characters you can use your ult to stall time so you don't have to fight the tarka with weapons while he's on his ult

but to say ''justina v2 counter tarka v'' is just ridiculous

unless ur definition of ''counter'' included ult trading, which is even more ridiculous

[magic hinge]

Well I def agree with stalling time not being more than an ult trade

But wouldn’t a good matari have good chances against a good tarka

[olive sun]

my point is just avoid fighting a tarka with weapons while he's on his ult

respect his ult

dodge and scale rush and keeping distance, or F or V, whatever you could use

[magic hinge]

Unless you see me playing tarka

Don’t worry

I don’t know how to use his ult other than the infinite

I tried playing him, still don’t know how people play him soo good

[olive sun]

i don't play tarka, but i know too damn well what a good tarka could do with his ult

still remember the day i parried a tarka who's on his ult, dropped his gold gs but he was able to dodge my parry counterattack, pick up his gold gs and do 3x rmb cancel on me and killed me on the spot

😂

[magic hinge]

Has not yet happened to me

But I was learning tarka

And then I made a mistake of getting a tarka to low hp

Because I thought he was low, and I got enough skill to kill him

I got quickly juggled and humbled

[karmic wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/lotr-so-you-have-chosen-death-chosen-death-lord-of-the-rings-gif-15767548

the tarka after you parried him

[olive sun]

i was so baffled i even do a cheat report only to find out that's just how a good tarka looks like

😂

[karmic wolf]

it does sounds cheaty

have not encounter that yet

bunch of justinas/zais/akos right now

valdas too

[olive sun]

yeah there's only 2 types of tarka that you gonna meet in games

• the one who don't know wtf they're doing
• the one who know exactly what he's doing

[magic hinge]

SO real

[karmic wolf]

no middle ground

[olive sun]

nope
because a person who's mid at tarka went play zai akos justina valda already

[magic hinge]

Motivation to train tarka only

[karmic wolf]

Im not very interested in tarka, but I am looing at Lyam right now

is he good atm? I see he can also go crazy like tarka

[olive sun]

solo or trio?

i can't speak for solo cuz i hardly play it

but i heard he's ok

and he got TOD potential

in trio he's eh, so so, kinda weak

[karmic wolf]

Solo

do not like trios

and tarka work in both cases, I guess?

[olive sun]

tarka was always on a weird spot

he either a monster or is useless the entire time

[karmic wolf]

so is one of those high risk high reward chars

[olive sun]

i wouldn't call it high risk high rewards

just that how good a tarka is depend entirely on how good the player is

like if you look at the overall data you'd say tarka desperately need a buff
but then you still met the tarkas that fk you up so bad you have to question your piloting skill

[kind ginkgo]

He can't attack you, u can stall, and he can't I terrupy the cast with punch 🤔👍

[olive sun]

and that means a counter because?

[kind ginkgo]

Counter meaning that tarka cannot do what he wants and his ult loses it's usefulness 🤔🤷🏻‍♂️

Counter does not always mean insta win, it also means smth that puts you in an advantage position on an equal footing clash

[olive sun]

so an ult trade? that's counter to you?

[kind ginkgo]

Considered that it makes tarka ult completely useless, yeah, that a counter

Ult trade isn't a bad option usually

[olive sun]

the ice trail exist for 8 seconds while tarka ult last for 24s in solo, so no it doesn't ''make tarka ult completely useless''
it is an ANSWER to tarka v, not a COUNTER

[olive sun]

no one says it is

[wraith cargo]

With some help I noticed my time between the two f activations is too short. The bot is still immune to binding on my second f. How can I make that longer?

[kind ginkgo]

Do a second uppercut

[wraith cargo]

ohhhhh

[kind ginkgo]

And 2x aerials

[wraith cargo]

idk why I forgot that xD

ty!

[kind ginkgo]

Or, use a Heng sword, and do a normal focus

The reason it rolled out there was because it was still immune to a following stagger

[magic hinge]

yoooo first IW game

does it find solos or trios faster?

[indigo mulch]

🎉 | Aero leveled up!

[magic hinge]

and i died in the span of the first 30 secs

the opponent had purple armouyr and a legendary sword

you sure good loot is rarer in IW?

[magic hinge]

I am not getting good at this game

[chrome cliff]

it is not possible to get gold loot in the first 30 seconds of a match in IW

either you were not playing immortal war, or you misremembered

[magic hinge]

No

It was immortal war

I am very sorry to have not gotten a screenshot

But it was a golden heng sword

I was very surprised and even rechecked if I was in IW

Is there any way to get a golden heng sword?

Just to be sure, he played with the heng sword till the end of the game

I checked the naraka+ app after the game and he still had his heng sword

First time in IW, so I still don’t know what’s possible and what’s not

So maybe hacks?

Number 5 btw

[magic hinge]

This time, I’m sure

[chrome cliff]

not within 30 seconds

[indigo mulch]

🎉 | Penemue leveled up!

[magic hinge]

I died first in game and we spawned very close to each other

I survived 2 minutes

[magic hinge]

Is it possible to get it in 1 minute?

I was also running away from him

I know how implausible this seems to you veterans

But how rare is golden loot in IW, because this was most def either hacks or ungodly luck

[karmic wolf]

I just been playing that for bit more than a week and literally I have not even seen purple in the first minutes

[magic hinge]

Is this a curse, that has been adorned upon me for trying to become better in game 😭

[karmic wolf]

but since I am pretty bad and get 1 kill at much each time, I have no idea what is the fastest time someone can get gear

[magic hinge]

I spawned

Opened 2 blue stacks

[karmic wolf]

if someone kills very fast maybe they can get it in less than 5 mins? idk

[magic hinge]

Got noticed by enemy

[magic hinge]

First kill of the game

Run around

Death

Respawn

Death

[karmic wolf]

try to record it next time, maybe it was a cheater, people with more experience will be able to confirm it with some footage

[magic hinge]

Yeah

It was my first game of IW, I didn’t know this shit could happen

[karmic wolf]

in theory it can't

[magic hinge]

Better luck next time

[magic hinge]

If I meet him again

Maybe

But I won’t know unless I die to him first

Because IW hides names

[karmic wolf]

someone spwaning with gold gear will get kill pretty easy at the start since most players are running in grey gear

the lucky ones get blue

I have had full blue in the first 30 seconds for sure

[magic hinge]

Blue sounds realistic

Even purple can seem plausible to me

But a golden so early

[karmic wolf]

so far never seen purple in the firstminute

[magic hinge]

Yeah, I didn’t even have armour

Game hates me fr

Well I’ll just spam IW games and try to get better

Solo ranks has been enough shitty for me, but at least now I can die quickly and not roam around and die slowly

[karmic wolf]

yeah, IW is way better than normal ranked

as someone here said yesterday it does feel like a joke

like you get participation award

haha

what kind of ranked is that

that is why I just stopped ranking and just pick fights

Ill rank up when I start winning those fights

[magic hinge]

Real

I‘ll be on 100 games of IW with 10 kills overall

:)))

Are you EU?

[karmic wolf]

NA

[magic hinge]

Oooh

So you won’t see me with such a stat line then

Someone in the EU is gonna see a crazy maniac with those stats

[karmic wolf]

haha

Its really hard getting kill on IW for me atm

as I said I mostly get 1

and not the majority of times

people are tough there

[magic hinge]

I understand u, people are crazy in IW( 1game experience)

[karmic wolf]

and the thing is that you wont get point with no kills

I tried the "Safe" approach

top 3

no kills

0 points

[magic hinge]

Do I lose points?

[karmic wolf]

in top 3 no

but you do lose point if you die in the first minutes

which has happened to me

most of the times

I just ressurect right there

I mean they all have grey/blue

and you spawn with grey

so I just jump fast to fight again

and most of the time get slaughtered again

haha

[magic hinge]

Respawning near now makes more sense

[magic hinge]

Like me

Well thanks for the tips

I hope I can start better and chill then

[karmic wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/sherlock-benedict-cumberbatch-hat-tip-greetings-smile-gif-4268618

[scarlet dew]

maybe he completed puzzle on holoroth?

there was also once a bug where u could drop gold stuff in re-designed area in lower part of holoroth, but it was very long time ago and 99% fixed

but possible same bug could apply somewhere else

although this is 0.01% chance

prob just puzzle

[chrome cliff]

you can only get gold weapon in yang and spirit well, or buy from shop (time gated)

it's not possible to get it within 1 minute

riddle in holo takes more than 1 minute

[karmic wolf]

Okay you CAN get purple in the first 30 seconds, just happened to me, gold stashe with purple, very low chance I guessm since is the first time I see a purple ever

IMO chances should be 0 at the start

[magic hinge]

This wasn’t even on holo

It was perdoria

Imperial camp

So I guess I am just that good at finding guys with good equipment

[kind ginkgo]

Yes, it's possible 🤔; say you spawn on a golden stash 🤷🏻‍♂️

It's all rng factor, but 100% possible

[chrome cliff]

This whole discussion has been about him finding a gold weapon within 30-60 seconds in Immortal war, which is not possible

Most of these are outdated or never made sense to begin with

Can't believe you've been linking to these for the past 10 weeks

Unlucky

[magic hinge]

We can close the convo Abt the gold weapon

[karmic wolf]

link to updated ones? I just started to pay attention to glyphs

[kind ginkgo]

Considered when they are made, they still are fine for beginners 🤷🏻‍♂️

[kind ginkgo]

iW isn't possible, no

Either normal ranked or not at all

[magic hinge]

Unfortunately it was IW

Possible or not, I did not get a screenshot

Happened and that’s it

Forget it

[chrome cliff]

the logic explained here is still up to date, the main thing that changed is that wave roll got more popular, especially in solos and on support characters in trios https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnbxhDbvuNM

[karmic wolf]

Thanks, Ill check what is this waveroll after it, then

[chrome cliff]

you made them after i made my guide, but yours look like they are from early 2024

look man, i don't think it's a good idea to make a list of characters and glyph pages that go with the characters

[kind ginkgo]

Mb there, totally forgot u made a video on that 🤔🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️, still haven't had the chance to watch it

[chrome cliff]

let me type for a moment please

[chrome cliff]

people want to spend 20 seconds and find the "best" build for a character, grab it from somewhere and never look at it again

your screenshots try to answer that need, but i think it's not a good way to explain glyphs at all

there are way too many builds for each character, and if you put them side by side next to them without an explanation, people won't know what to take and why

but since you made yours in mid october, i assumed that they are more updated than mine, so i didn't say anything

but now that i looked at them, i gotta say, you didn't do your research

i source my glyph recommendations from what chinese pro players are playing and recommend builds that are useful for beginners

[kind ginkgo]

I'll update them when I got time then 🤔👍; will take a while tho

ATM I got a lot of irl stuff going on

[chrome cliff]

for your glyph pages, it looks like you just screenshot whatever you had and put it here

[kind ginkgo]

Not really, no

[chrome cliff]

i thought you are part of an official helper team and what you recommend gets peer reviewed by other people

but i can tell from looking at your screenshots that nobody but you looked at them

for example, you recommend skipping wave roll and f cooldown on kurumi, this is really bad advice

you also pick the damage reduction after ult glyph on shayol, a character that gets practically 100% damage reduction from everything but ranged weapons and halfcharges in her ult

[magic hinge]

Beef

[chrome cliff]

it's completely wasted to take that on shayol

nothing personal bro, but these glyph pages aren't good

the least you should do before making something like this is watch existing guides and/or get it peer reviewed

[kind ginkgo]

As said, I'll update and correct, as soon as I got time 👍

Ty for pointing out the mistake

[chrome cliff]

and as i said, i don't think it's a good approach to make a gallery of glyph pages, sorted by characters

[karmic wolf]

While I do agree with this statement, most people just want something to put in there, few will watch an in depth to understand it, we are on the age of blindly follow the meta even if you do not understand it, most people are like that, they just do not want to learn

[chrome cliff]

67k people watched my glyph videos

[kind ginkgo]

I knew, but at the same time, most people don't want to dwell into this, that post saw birth because of a similar discussion and an insanely large number of people asking the same question over and over again without wanting anything more 👍👍

[chrome cliff]

i have no problem with someone making a more updated, well researched guide and putting it out there

but this isn't updated, and this isn't well researched

[kind ginkgo]

But then again, u are right on the mistake; once again, I'll correct it as soon as I can 👍

[karmic wolf]

thats a low number compared to the influx of players

is not a big percentage

so yeah most people wil just not bother

[chrome cliff]

this discord channel doesn't reach 67k players in 2 years

[karmic wolf]

exactly, cuz people do not care

[chrome cliff]

people care, and should get good advice when they look into it

if a bunch of screenshots could explain glyphs well on a beginner-level, i wouldn't have made a video and updated 3 times over the course of the past few years

[karmic wolf]

yes, I agree people like myself like to know what they are doing, but I am sure we are a minority

this is not my first rodeo

most people just want to copy the stuff without knowing,

Press Q to win

[chrome cliff]

there are 2 ways to answer these questions:

1. link to a resource that explains the logic behind glyph choices in a concise, structured way that includes up-to-date recommendations
2. ask them how they want to play their games and make a custom glyph page tailored to what they need

[kind ginkgo]

will work in that direction then

got any other pointers?

[chrome cliff]

linking to a screenshot gallery comprised of random glyph pages half of which don't make sense without any explanation or indication if they are for solos or trios is not the way

[kind ginkgo]

fair point

[chrome cliff]

think about your motivation
why do you make guides on topics other people already made guides about?
you can do that, but what you do should be better than what's already out there

[kind ginkgo]

motivation was just to help people; nothing grand

but i see what you mean 🤔

as soon as i get a little of free time ill start working on it

got any materials other than your guide that you can recommend? 🤔 places i can find the most used pages by %,...?

[chrome cliff]

20x the time and effort you spent doing what you did and you will start entering the terrain of being helpful

[chrome cliff]

no, i don't support this project
as i said multiple times, recommending glyphs by characters is not the way

[kind ginkgo]

i meant in order to develop in this direction

need materials and understanding in order to help, as you said 🤔

don't want to give half hassed infos once again

[chrome cliff]

i'll update my glyph guide soon to include wave roll changes

[kind ginkgo]

ok, ty

[chrome cliff]

don't screenshot my stuff and put it here

the screenshots are worthless without voiceover

it'll only confuse people

[kind ginkgo]

i wont dw

i'm not one to screenshot random content like that

it would simply be better to link your guide instead

[karmic wolf]

Lannie looking fun, ngl

[olive sun]

i hate auto target abilities though

[karmic wolf]

Seems like it has a cast time, so dodgeable

then again shitty netcode

[acoustic badger]

where i can buy bikini costum 👀

[karmic wolf]

You seem lost, this is not DoA server

[olive sun]

the initial cast is dodgeable yes but the bounces aren't

[karmic wolf]

The bounces does not seem to stagger, tho

so maybe not much damage

we'll see

[magic hinge]

Maybe like temulch bounce zephyr?

[olive sun]

just watch the video

[kind ginkgo]

yepyep

also looks like it is going to be smth fun for combos 🤔

can't wait to try her

[karmic wolf]

She looking more like crowd control to me, not combo heavy, since all we say there were like "Reads"

to call it something

[kind ginkgo]

on the ground maybe, but the float when it hits is pretty long 🤔

also we can se an example of smth similar to a raw dragon i think? didnt really pay too much attention since i was doing smth else when watching

but if we can chain the stagger hit from the skill / ult after an uppercut, maybe we can put smth else in as a follow? 🤔

im curious to test and try

[karmic wolf]

we'll see

is in 4 days I think?

[kind ginkgo]

22nd i reckon?

not sure

[karmic wolf]

Just watched the vid again

21

[kind ginkgo]

👍

5 days then 😆

right in the middle

[astral tiger]

Hi all, any way to avoid / counter this stupid Wuchen stagger-to-death ult? Seems like pretty useless design and more and more people play around this character. I try to dash it out but I'm usually staggered to death mostly because of ult not the player skill

[kind ginkgo]

Either dodge when he throws the first blade at you, or you will have to trade ults (depending on character) in order to survive

Otherwise it's a ton of dmg and in a lot of cases insta death

[astral tiger]

Well hard to trade with Tessa but why its keepa staggering for so long its inpossible to do anything. Bad design ?

[kind ginkgo]

well....

i personally dont like the blade shower, but it depends 🤔

there is worse overall

because u can avoid the stagger all togheter with a well timed dodge

[chrome cliff]

Use wave roll

And hope the wuchen isn't so laggy that he rubberbands you to death

[astral tiger]

Guess no other options 🤷‍♂️

[chrome cliff]

Wait until you fight 2 laggy wuchens at the same time and you eat 4 of their ults

After making one of them 1 HP

[astral tiger]

I have enough of Justina + Wuchen combo anyway

I can go make a coffee when I get caught by Justina and then staggered by Wuchen until my armor and health go to 0

[mystic relic]

Try using the stamina glyph to have an "easier" time dodging wuchen's ult.

Basically when he casted his ult you don't want him to "hit" you with it since then it will track on you and make it harder to dodge. If he misses or just casts it on a general area the blades are easier to dodge (specially with the glyph)

As for justina, depends on what ult. If she's running v1 (the one with dashes) you want hold blue so she doesn't freeze you

It can be really annoying and until recently I found it so (still do sometimes ) but I've been getting better at dodging it

[astral tiger]

Ok thanks for the tip, Ill try it out

[rain kraken]

can Shayol Wei ult block tessa's ult ???

[mystic relic]

Nope she still gets stun but iirc the stun doesn't last as long bc her shield gets triggered

18:35 for the tessa part exclusively

https://youtu.be/XM7fWPxwE9g?si=JEuqQTxfdg3PCZwe

[kind ginkgo]

u can teleport with v2 to avoid the charm at the end if you are precise

[mystic relic]

yup I forgot about that lol

the videos shows that

[dry roost]

Can wuchen teleport ally in Feria mech?

[chrome cliff]

No, the ally in mech won't get teleported

[viscid frost]

Any build for Tessa ?

[rocky dove]

Don’t play Tessa XD

[rocky dove]

F1V2

Or if going support F2V2

[viral kiln]

What F skill do you run for Ziping yin? i know v1 for solo and v2 for trios

ive been running f1 mostly for raw healing but im low rated lol

[rocky dove]

Basically what you said

[little cargo]

I heard some people go V1 for trios too since once active, healing from V1 is much stronger than V2. You need to active V when trying to save your teammates, and they said V2 only better in trios when one of your teammate got dogpiled on and don't have combo breaker

But I think using which is up to reference. I have to admit, V1 healing compare to V2 is day and night

[viral kiln]

do you need to use it before 100 rage or is it the same? since the tooltip says if you use it with 100 you get the save, but if you use it above 70 you get big heals

im assuming its just big heals and you only get the save if used at 100 for v1, if so im gonna have to swap to that and try it out lol

[little cargo]

Both can be used at 70%, consume 40% (if I'm not mistaken) on activate and slowly drain your rage to heal your team. The differences between them are:

• V1 will heal you much stronger.
• V1 will negate fatal damage if you have 100% rage and consume some of your rage
• V2 will negate each of your team first fatal damage while it activating

[karmic wolf]

Does Tessa enchant, resets the stun?

[kind ginkgo]

yes

[karmic wolf]

so I can 4 H Hengsword if I time it perfectly

[kind ginkgo]

yes, but a full focus would be better 🤔

if you use the reset on the stagger meter, u can do some nice things

[karmic wolf]

but a full focus would go over the threshold

[kind ginkgo]

Depends of the weapon and when it starts 👍

I reckon that a few months ago someone sent a clip of smth similar

The need to get charmed mid focus , so that the focus dmg get only half absorbed

[karmic wolf]

damn thats

tight

not sure Im there yet

like in trainng mode yes

but in the heat of the battle

thats tough

[kind ginkgo]

Usually don't think about comboing out of ult; just leash out as much dmg as you can 🤔👍👍

[raw wagon]

What is Taraka Ji and Akos Hu best Skills and ult in 2025?

[kind ginkgo]

tarka still v1 f1

akos v1 f2

or also v2 f2 works, but buffed v1 is really strong

[raw wagon]

For who?

[kind ginkgo]

akos

[raw wagon]

Thanks

[viscid frost]

It says fatigue has reached it limit and so I won’t get any drop

How can I clear fatigue

[karmic wolf]

you can ask about showdown in their channel, #👾┃showdown

but as far as I know fatigue clears every week automatically

[viscid frost]

Ooh ok thank you

[raw wagon]

What is Taraka Ji best weapons?

[kind ginkgo]

All of them work; you will find that katana and Heng sword fit him like a glove due to the infinite combo u can do in ult

[raw wagon]

Inf combo?

You can combo in this game?!?

[kind ginkgo]

Well yeah

Tarka is considered to be one of the worse choices for starter characters because he only depends on that 🤔👍

Winning neutral and bombing the enemy to death 👍

https://youtu.be/AgwTvW_sX9M?si=I1LYh0IBU05rykFe

Here is the most basic one you can do

Aside from that, all weapons work for all characters 👍👍

[kind ginkgo]

Ignore just the start, how they start the combo is somewhat difficult 👍

[raw wagon]

Uh huh

I might switch over to the hoodie guy for now Thanks for showing me this

I’ll have to practice it

He looked like a martial artist type of guy

[raw wagon]

Can he do it with a staff or nunchucks?

[kind ginkgo]

Staff is not a good combo weapon, nunchucks can work with tarka ult yeah 👍

[kind ginkgo]

Kylin??

If in the future u will need combos for him I got Ur back 👍👍

[kind ginkgo]

All of them are

[raw wagon]

<—— this guy

[kind ginkgo]

Yep, Kylin 👍👍

He's a tomb raider you could say 👍👍

[raw wagon]

Blue raider cuz he’s blue

[raw wagon]

SWEET

[raw wagon]

Thanks dude

[kind ginkgo]

np 👍

i recommend to work on mouvement and neutral fighting as first things tho 👍

if you can't start a combo even knowing the strongest of all will not do much 👍

[magic hinge]

Coolest looking guy with arguably the best skins

Unfortunately you need insane skill to use him

[compact ledge]

What’s skill i should choose as yoto hime plz ?

2 and 3 ?

[lost dagger]

F2 v3 usually. F3 isn't a bad choice either

[compact ledge]

V is ultimate ?

Or is it F ? Coz I’m on console