🙎┃character-guides

[kind ginkgo]

Np

[cobalt kayak]

can some one help me to counter zai's chain this shit is pain in my ass i only run when face zai have V dont know how to face it

[olive sun]

um

run

[kind ginkgo]

Ehm......

Sadly I can't help with that

Running is the sole option

Otherwise stun her, use Shayol ult, but she will burn you anyways...

[olive sun]

jokes aside you can just dodge her attacks or gold focus through it
most zai run v2 which the full ensnared soul attack can be dodged by just jumping
all of her charge attacks can only hit grounded target
also she doesn't have any true combo while in V, aside from a 1-2 or a 1-uppercut-1-2

[kind ginkgo]

Can't dodge, she has too many attack with too much range, and we don't have enough stamina

[olive sun]

your goal when play vs a zai is to force her to pops her V while keeping your resources

after that just dodge, run, keep your distance, play around your skills and her attacks

anyway fighting a zai on V toe to toe is a stoopid decision, don't do that

[cobalt kayak]

really hate to face that champ

so best option is get out of combat and wait this turn off

[olive sun]

well not really

as i said, dodge her attacks and you could win

so in the end it depends on how good your movement are

i have seen ppl dodging her V2 chainlink suppress by crouching and rolling toward her

not recommended though

[cobalt kayak]

so depend on how good u are in dodge and luck

[kind ginkgo]

Stamina ain't enough to dodge her for 30 sec

Ideal is scalerush far away and quick

Or stun

Can't face her directly when she's in ult

[olive sun]

ofc it's not ''just dodging'' lol, fight back

my point is it's not like she stun lock you instantly for 10 seconds or 1 hit you from full armor and hp or something

there's a way to play around her V with your movement and abilities, she got her V, you got your V too

and obviously you can't treat a zai on V like she's not, but if you keep running all the time as soon as she poped her V you will never learn how to fight against it

be aware of what she could do and know your limit

[slate sierra]

Valda fares decently well into Zai, she can CC her with V2 and the extra HP can even out the fight.

[mint parrot]

How come people dont use zipings v3, it seems quite unique and clutch

[empty swallow]

v1 is more useful

in any scenario

[lethal shell]

anyone have feria trios glyphs

[kind ginkgo]

V2 usually 🤔👍

[empty swallow]

Not after nerf

[mint parrot]

what did they nerf?

[empty swallow]

The life saving effect and explosion power

Its just not strong anymore

V1 healing is better

[mint parrot]

i like v1 but kurumis healing feels better over zipings v1

[olive sun]

depends

kurumi heals faster and overall more but teammate have to be inside the circle

while zip heal is, technically speaking, global

that's why we pair kylin with zip not kurumi

also zip only need 70% rage to use her V, and it can be cancelled to preserve rage

[empty swallow]

Kurumi is stronger

For trios

But yea for those specific cases, Zip heals Kylin better than Kurumi can

[vague tiger]

need the flying guyu guide

i think hadi

[empty swallow]

hadi is super easy

use the combo breaker F, and honestly the ultimate is your choice

V1 gives you and your teammates a free combo breaker and escape

V2 gives you burn damage on attacks

I've used both, both are good

go full rage build and don't hold your ultimate, it's good to ult early during the fight because you get it back fast

go for fully charged hits ideally, and just expect that people will try to dodge, so time it properly to hit them between dodges or after their stamina is depleted

if you can't go for a fully charged hit, a semi charged hit is also good, it gives you a mini 3-hit combo

some cheeky players will try to hit you with a focus attack while youre low to the ground, you can use their stupidity to your advantage and parry them, hitting them with a strong counter and healing yourself

the most important part i'd say is learning to maneuver in your ultimate through buildings and around corners to catch people and being ready to parry/dodge attempts to hit you out of the sky

[kind ginkgo]

For the team mortal defiance I still think it has a slight edge over v1 🤔

[olive sun]

so why tf wuchen V1 if it hits the ground and you get caught inside the swords rain it perma stun lock you?

is it a bug? or did they ninja buffed it? when did it happens?
and why?

[worn spindle]

iswr it always been a thing

i havent tested it out but i think it only works in like the first few seconds then it dont track after that if it hit the ground so u wont get tracked even if u go into the sword rain

or it might just be if a big sword hits u it starts tracking

[olive sun]

it's not the tracking, you don't get tracks if it hits the ground and you enter the affected area

but it's like the swords raning twice as fast

and it keep staggering you every 0.25s or so

so dodge command won't work

[opal depot]

wuchen needs it

[little cargo]

So they nerfed the swords rain when it hits people but didn't nerfed the sword rain when it hits ground...

[kind ginkgo]

Yep

[little cargo]

Man, they nerfed his V in pvp and his V in showdown got affected the same way for some reason

[kind ginkgo]

Cuz when on the ground u can get out of it pretty easily 🤔👍

[little cargo]

Yeah but I think they just didn't consider it

[kind ginkgo]

Most likely

[empty swallow]

i think its the initial sword that stuns for the longest

the big sword from each burst is the one u gotta dodge from what a wuchen player told me

[kind ginkgo]

They nerfed the subsequent stuns

[olive sun]

You don't understand what i'm talking about are you

[olive sun]

Not anymore, now if you got caught inside you gonna get perma staggered for the whole duration

[kind ginkgo]

I see 🤔

[olive sun]

like once you entered the area you just can't do anything, can't dash, can't do a blue hold, can't use any skills that isn't combo breaker, even a soft combo breaker won't work

[kind ginkgo]

Arena makes sense

It's laggy af

Normal game, that move has no stagger

[olive sun]

i mean the swords rain area

[kind ginkgo]

Yeah

It has close to no stagger 🤔

[olive sun]

BRO

AREA

NOT

ARENA

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[kind ginkgo]

Yeah, I understood what you mean

Dw

Still, the swords aoe does not have any heavy stagger

[olive sun]

that's exactly what i'm talking about, before you can get out of it easily, but now you couldn't

[kind ginkgo]

Focus stance is safe in there

[kind ginkgo]

They shouldn't have changed it 🤔

[olive sun]

that's why idk why it happens

dunno if it's a bug or they ninja patched it

[kind ginkgo]

I think it's some interaction affecting fps

I still haven't played in the last 2 days, but never had any issue with this before

[olive sun]

i'm at 100, not good but defo not that terrible

[kind ginkgo]

And I don't think they would make an air like that this op

[kind ginkgo]

I'm at 60 (-) 🤷🏻‍♂️🤔😂

In a wuchen ult

[olive sun]

yeah when you have time you could get a friend to a custom room

[kind ginkgo]

Absolutely

This sounds so weird

[olive sun]

to see if you got the same experience

[kind ginkgo]

I'll see if this evening after the trip back home it will happen the same 🤔👍👍

[olive sun]

and i'm not the only one who experienced this, there's a feedback thread about it

and i've heard the same from other ppl in my chamber

#1303548510628745299

as you can see the swords hit so fast and so intense it rubberbanded all the dodge attempts

[kind ginkgo]

Yeah, this does not look intended

[opal depot]

its also very fun to use

[gleaming pike]

guys need to ask (not sure if this is the place for it) but how can I get the new dance from the event

[kind ginkgo]

Which one?

If it's from an event, u see it in the event page, if it's buyable, it's in the shop 🤔👍

[wet prism]

somone play some showdown with me pls-- im on na but thats flexible.. I have lvl 1000 souljades and pretty good overall stuff

[kind ginkgo]

(the right channel is #❓┃help for this, but no problem 👍👍)

[kind ginkgo]

For showdown instead, better to look in #👾┃showdown or #🐲┃showdown-lfg 👍

[gleaming pike]

yeah I mean the event dance not the buyable, by event page you mean phantom rave?

[kind ginkgo]

Depends which event the dance is listed under

[olive sun]

if you mean this dance then it was sent via ingame mail on the patch day

[gleaming pike]

exactly, I didnt get it on my mails

[olive sun]

open a ticket to support ig

[gleaming pike]

sure, thanks

[lost dagger]

Make sure you check in game mail on the server you made the account

[shut marsh]

whats the best abilitys for cyra to equip??

[kind ginkgo]

I would say f2 V2 overall

F1 is also fine, but personally I think it's less useful

[shut marsh]

aah i seee thankyouuu

[kind ginkgo]

Np

[ruby anchor]

best skillset for ziping yin? q-q someon?

[karmic belfry]

what abilities for Tessa?

[olive sun]

as long as it's not F3 and V3

[olive sun]

any is fine

[ruby anchor]

i am using 2 - 2 but i would say depents on your playstyle

[ruby anchor]

v1 got more ult hps as v2?

[olive sun]

v1 heals more and faster but v2 got fatal strike negate for whole team

usually solo take v1, trios take v2 but you could run v1 for trios too

[ruby anchor]

okok :3

[glossy nimbus]

Huh, didn't think to post here, but looks like other's are running into this issue too?

About the Wuchen Ult glitch*

[olive sun]

yes

[glossy nimbus]

Is this a recent interaction? ZNot sure I've ever been stuck in a missed Wuchen Ult before

[olive sun]

yeah

before you can still dash out of it

now the blades falls twice as fast or something

[opal depot]

its really fun to use

[crisp garnet]

who is the best to use in duos if my teammate is always Zai?

[slate sierra]

kurumi or ziping

thats duos meta essentially

[crisp garnet]

gotcha thanks for the info

[slate sierra]

you can make other things work but zai does a ton of dmg so if she can stay alive she does work, kurumi might be favoured with her over zip

rumi circle cleanses burn so helps deal with other zais

[crisp garnet]

whats rumis best skill and ult?

[slate sierra]

f3 v2

[crisp garnet]

gotcha thanks I will give her a try been using temulch for support but seems like we need heals more

[slate sierra]

healer+hyper carry is very strong, always will be

[granite glade]

For Zai is there a specific weapon I should be looking out for or can you use whatever

[kind ginkgo]

there isnt a single hero that requires a specific weapon dw 👍

only thing important for zai is the rarity of it, because of her ult (the higher the rarity of the weapon, the higher the ult dmg)

[granite glade]

Gotcha thanks for the clarification

[kind ginkgo]

Np 👍👍

[karmic belfry]

what should i max on skill tree

im playing mostly tessa

[kind ginkgo]

@karmic belfry use this; it's good enough for tessa 👍

if you have any doubts about the glyphs system, i recommend checking in the pinned comments; we have a general guide to them

[glossy nimbus]

Anyone got any ideas on glyphs for Cyra yet?

Debating between Ult heavy or not, bc I do use it in big fight scenarios, but only use Ult in a 2 v 2/ 3 v 3 if it's really urgent

[kind ginkgo]

I personally like the standard ones the best so far

True, her ult is somewhat useful, but that f2 is her strong part

[glossy nimbus]

Hmmm 🤔 I use her F1 bc the combo breaker is really key in personal fights, and I'll use it to stun in groups as well, so I don't really want to lose the skill cool down -18%

[glossy nimbus]

Do you happen to know if the 20% dmg reduction is any use on characters like her who have an extra HP bar for ult?

[kind ginkgo]

Yes, it works for that aswell

[kind ginkgo]

If used correctly f2 is stronger overall

It can be a combo starter, combo breaker for you or the teammate if used preemptively and overall it's also stronger because u can move it to adapt to the enemy movement

The combo breaker is good yeah, but it's nearly impossible to hit the stun right after, which is also, I think, shorter

[glossy nimbus]

I don't think I'm talented enough to play without a combo breaker yet 😭

[kind ginkgo]

It's fine 👍👍

It's just a matter of getting used to it

[granite glade]

What's the proper glyphs for Zai

[kind ginkgo]

Just go full red, u won't be wrong with that 🤔👍

[granite glade]

For Valda the glyphs are all red and all green right

[kind ginkgo]

yep, for most heroes they are aswell 🤔

👍

[edgy fog]

I got a few into Ult dmg and for faster hooks.

Also, if you parry, put a few into that

(I wish I could show a pic but my lvl on the server is too low)

[brittle bough]

Are there any popular guides here for Cyra?

[tawdry osprey]

I'm not sure if they've made some yet tbh

[kind ginkgo]

They didn't make it, but if you are looking to see how she works,... There are a lot of people that posted their guide in #1300743595405606932

A lot of them are really good, and others are a bunch of mechanics , possible combos,...

U can find anything in that channel 👍

[jagged blade]

Hi guys, I'm new to the game and really enjoyed the showdown mode. I have been using Wuchen solo and passed the Hard mode, now I'm into the first stage of nightscream and got beaten down so easily even though my sense is 811 (requirement is 810) so it could be because of the build. Is there any link I can look for the right builds? I have been using the one from the recommendation but no hope :<

[olive sun]

#👾┃showdown
check pinned posts first
also you should know that in most stages of showdown if you're good enough you could always do a ''no damage received'' run

it takes experience

so just play more

[jagged blade]

thank you, didn't see that channel earlier. Just that I was so easy to be 1-2 hit ko and die even with the sense being the same or higher than the requirement so I didn't understand.

[shut marsh]

whats best skills to equip for yoto hime ??

[bleak sinew]

whats best skill kurumi

[kind ginkgo]

Usually F3 V2 or F1 v2 👍

[kind ginkgo]

F2 V3 for solos definitely; for trios it depends, u can also use v1 for extra slashes eventually

F3 is also good; it's also viable in all modes

[crisp garnet]

Who works best with valda cui in duos?

[rocky dove]

Tbh tarka or zai could play off the burn soak combo

[crisp garnet]

gotcha I will give them a try thanks

[kind ginkgo]

Zai, viper

Viper is the most common one, u catch them with the big wave, viper ults v1 and they are stunned till death pretty much

[kind ginkgo]

since it's a frequently asked question, here are a few glyphs pages complete with abilities for each hero in the game 👍 .

akos glyphs

cyra glyphs

feria glyphs

hadi glyphs

justina glyphs

kurumi glyphs

kylin glyphs

lyam glyphs

matari glyphs

shayol glyphs

tarka glyphs (play f1 instead of f3 tho)

telmuch glyphs

tessa glyphs

tianhai glyphs

valda glyphs

viper glyphs

wuchen glyphs

yoto hime glyphs

yueshan glyphs

zai glyphs

ziping glyphs

[compact ledge]

You the best ❤️

[kind ginkgo]

[solemn siren]

[still sage]

I see nonoscrybb using a different page, is this better?

[kind ginkgo]

cyra is new; which one is nono using atm?

[still sage]

let me send 1 sec

[kind ginkgo]

👍

[still sage]

i cant send image

..

[kind ginkgo]

you should be able to; if not it's probably because you are not yet lv 1 in the server; dw, it takes about 15 messages usually

[still sage]

ah ok

i have question then

i have pplayed for about a week

any reason why the characters have different pages?

[kind ginkgo]

multiple

some choices are based on personal preference, others are because of the funcioning of the character itself

[still sage]

Yea alright

[kind ginkgo]

if you see, there is a glyph page that it's the same for pretty much all of the heroes

but on heroes like zai, which mainly relies on her ult to work, the most common choice is to go and put everyhting in rage regen (red) in order to have her ult up the quickest possible

but you can also play her with other rune pages

[still sage]

Yea alright makes sense

but isn't most characters way stronger with ult?

[kind ginkgo]

not all characters rely on ult to win

some yeah

like zai that has a 30 sec ult that changes her ult to unstoppable attacks that burn and deal more dmg for example

others, like let's say kylin, have a really long cd on their f skill, but it's really useful

so we go for example for that

but generally, you always go right side red tree on all builds, because, as you said, ult is really important

the difference is that the dmg taken to charge ult is generally not worth if you aint playing smth that only wants to ult

[still sage]

ahh thats what it is, i thought it increased ur dmg taken XD

[kind ginkgo]

kurumi for example, you can either go ult, utility , to help the team by reducing the cost of shop things (team glyphs) or also just go ult an f since it's also useful

[kind ginkgo]

ah no, rage is what we refer to as ult charge ( V skill)

[still sage]

Yea yea

its just "rage/dmg taken"

is how its written

now i can

here it is

thats the one he uses

this is for solos

[kind ginkgo]

yeah, this one is based on his personal fighting preference

he likes to have more stamina for more dodges, while sacrificing some points in ult rage regen

it's totally viable, and i personally like it aswell

but consider this more as a general rune page he uses for every hero instead of a cyra specific one

[still sage]

Yea before i just auto allocated and it gave me a page that was decent, but it didn't have grappling distance

feels so good ahnving that bit extra grappling distance

[kind ginkgo]

yep

it's really good

[still sage]

I was so confused why i was watching people and their grapple felt more reliable? Was just that i guess

so nice

But the grappling speed is better than the stamina recovery?

[kind ginkgo]

depends

important it's the first node; after that it's all down to you

if you want stamina, it means that you need to sacrifice smth else to get it, as nono did

[still sage]

yea he doesn't get solar aegis

[kind ginkgo]

because only first node of stamina isnt enough to guarantee another dash, so if you do 1 you need to go for both

some heroes like to have dmg reduction on ult, others dont necessarly need it overall

it's mostly down to preference

also consider that nono is one of the best players in the server, so him getting hit it's usually happening way less that to a normal person, which also justifies his choice to not take that for example 👍

[still sage]

yes definitely

but if u dont strive for success then how would u improve

i completely agree i could take a more safe page, but then again if he uses it why not?

[kind ginkgo]

it's a matter of where you are at

naraka has a really steep learning curve; in the end you should just play what you feel is better for you

but it's also important to understand that the gap between the abilities of a beginner and a pro player like nono is insanely wide 👍

both glyphs pages are good; try them and see which one fits you the most 👍

that's the best i can say on which one to use

[still sage]

Ye, i had dunkin look at one of my fights like 2 days ago and he was very impressed for my time playing atleast

[kind ginkgo]

this is good 👍

[still sage]

he had some pro coach in call also, he was very confused also how it looked that decent for like about a week of playtime

so idk

i thought it was terrible

[kind ginkgo]

as said there is a lot to this game

usually after a week, you only ever fought bots, or mostly, so this means that if you didnt do any research you usually have just an idea of the game, which is releasing focus

if you did more than that, it's a lot more than you think 👍

[still sage]

Yea i watched guides and shit and ofc a lot of questions for dunkin

theres sadly not that many english streamers on naraka

or atleast offering to help

so u take what u can get

gotten to plat in trios atleast

from what i understood that means no more bots?

[kind ginkgo]

you will always have bots

just way less

[still sage]

ah ok

[kind ginkgo]

the more you climb, the stronger bots get, and the less there are

[still sage]

alright alright makes sense

Can u make glyphs per character?

[kind ginkgo]

wym by that?

like a personal page for each character?

yes

you just need to unlock an additional page for that specific character; it costs a few tae, but if you do that, it's going to give you a page for that specific one

you have a max of 2 pages per hero, plus a general one that's the same for everyone

[still sage]

Ahhhh

ty ty

On the "start with 15% rage" does that mean after every ult u are already at 15% ult charge or is it only from the start of hte game?

[kind ginkgo]

nop, only at the start of the game, like the very beginning

[still sage]

interesting ty

[kind ginkgo]

which is also why we tend to avoid that right side part of the red tree

[still sage]

yea

thats why i had to aska

cause it looked kinda trash if u only get +15 at the very start of the gmae

sure u can get into an early fight and have an edge

but realistically

after like 4 min into the game or something that shit is like no value anymore

[kind ginkgo]

it's useful in early game brawls

you start with a 15% advantage over the others, which means that let's say on zai for exaample, after a fight, you can start the next one with ult immediately

[still sage]

well yea, but wasnt it only start of the game u said?

[kind ginkgo]

yep

i am writing especially about when you drop in a place with like 5 other peoples

for example

[still sage]

Is there a reason for F1 on kurumi instead of F3?

[still sage]

yea yea

[kind ginkgo]

heals more on link

[still sage]

But isnt dmg 70% dmg reduction better in most cases?

[kind ginkgo]

depends who you are playing with

with a tianhai for example the heal is better

kylin v2 the same

yueshan aswell

but with matari for example you might want to have dmg reduction

[still sage]

yea ok

[smoky flare]

#🤖┃bot-commands

[still sage]

@kind ginkgo thanks a lot

[kind ginkgo]

yw, i'm happy to help 🙂

[faint mason]

hi how to counter wuchen ulti tai chi teleport blade storm, it oneshots me no matter what i do

[olive sun]

• dodge it
• if you got hit by it you could blue focus armor the small blades, preserve your stamina to dodge the big blades, or you could use your own gold focus abilities to tank it
• if it hits the ground and somehow you got caught in it there's no way out but to use a combo breaker and quickly dodge out

[faint mason]

what is blue focus armor

[olive sun]

the blue focus state when you hold

you're immune to small blades's stagger when you're in blue

[faint mason]

ah ok

[lean oasis]

Can Cyra be used in solo?

[indigo mulch]

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[kind ginkgo]

yes, she can 👍

i would recommend using f1 v1 in that case 🤔

f2 also works, but it's slightly worse, since it's not a combo breaker

[opal depot]

if you use f1 v1 you have an ult that's outclassed by other options and a combo break that's below average

imo play someone else or play f2 v1 and play her like more offensive zipping (that also dies faster)

unless you really like the ult

[mystic relic]

Guys is justina's v1 or v2 better for duos? I feel like the difference between the two ain't much so I'd appreciate some insight

[olive sun]

really depends on your own ability on making use of them, also team comp
v1 theoretically got unlimited casts as long as you hit 2 ppl per 1 cast, make her a cc machine but it's not easy to use at all, this is the go-to V of pro justina
v2 only 2 casts but freeze chance is higher, easier to make use of but again, only 2 casts so

[mystic relic]

gotcha, thanks

[kind ginkgo]

v1 is better overall generally

v2 is more surefire

[deep relic]

How to make Cyra fly so high like that?
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[olive sun]

right click and jump?

[edgy willow]

Any one have video how use justina gu ultimate?

How do close dash ?

[kind ginkgo]

Press any mouse button, it will interrupt it

[still sage]

Tessa V1 for solo/duo and V2 for trios?

[edgy willow]

Okay thx

[spare aspen]

what skills to play on zipping yin ?

[kind ginkgo]

V1 for all 3

V2 is situational

[kind ginkgo]

F1 v1 solos

F2 v1 / f2 V2 for team modes

[still sage]

I see i just saw so many tessa do V2 when i was playing trios

[kind ginkgo]

Cuz it deals dmg and it's a larger aoe

The stun is overall more valuable tho

As a setup

[cobalt kayak]

guy some one help me, i just see my teammate go fly in mid air while switch his weapon i see it first time how it work

[olive sun]

https://youtu.be/7Q-MWy4NJV4

[cobalt kayak]

that timing look hard : / ngl

[olive sun]

yea

need practice

[cobalt kayak]

hmm just wonder does it work with mouse wheel

[olive sun]

it does

[cobalt kayak]

nice dont know why but 1 2 for me it hard to press : / man im bad

[kind ginkgo]

Works easier with that, still need to get the right timing tho

[kind ginkgo]

It's a matter of habit; scroll wheel is way easier 👍

[stable prism]

all this PC talk, I need HELP on ps5😂

[surreal sundial]

[loud coyote]

[red magnet]

any recommendation for fighting against Telmuch Kuromi Takeda in Rank mode

[spark sun]

No

[kind ginkgo]

Try to bait their ults

If they don't ult in sync you are mostly fine

Also don't release focus attacks on takeda if you see him using the f1

[mystic relic]

Some individual tips for them:

• If temulch uses his skill you can avoid getting trapped by holding blue focus

• Try to avoid any blue focus on Takeda to prevent getting "parried". Or keep good spacing. If you see his using f1 then you're free to use blues any time his skill is not active

• If kurumi activates her skill and is linked to the parasol she can't attack, only jump around. So hit her with everything

If you have tessa in your comp and enchant takeda during his ult, just mind that takeda can still use his f to summon the demon even if he's stunned

As for kurumi's ult you have to keep a high pressure to mitigate the heal or push them off the circle

If you have someone like tarka or zai you could do some burn dmg to help

Or a lyam v2 to throw someone out of the circle

[olive sun]

just slap the takeda if he turn his F1 on lol

GRAB THIS

[shrewd root]

you guys got any tips for yueshan?

[cobalt kayak]

i dont play yueshan much so maybe this can help u when in your V u can charge attack and jump by yourself aim to enemy and release it, it will skip the jump and go direct where u aim, u can use that to aim for movement like jump to high spot

[magic hinge]

When does the ranked season usually end and start?

[empty swallow]

check the battle pass timer

that's it

roughly

it's every 3 months

[kind ginkgo]

Exactly the same as the battle pass, they share duration and starting time

[silver oar]

Really dumb question from a newbie here but who's the best to focus on for solo and duo ranked?

[kind ginkgo]

There isn't really any; especially at the beginning of the game id recommend trying to improve the fighting; for the character just take what you like 👍

[mystic relic]

I'd say just try heros and see who you're comfortable with that fit your playstyle. If there's a hero you like and are good at playing that's often going to be better than picking a suitable character (at least at the beginning or more casual plays)

Eventually if you get into ranks and get to high lobbies you might have to switch to something more fitting but you will figure it out as you go.

Still, if you want a list, for solos I'd go for:
-Matari
-Tessa
-Zai
-Justina
-Hadi
-Akos
-Lyam
-Valda

For duos practically most heros work well together. Obviously some teams work better than others but good knowledge on the game and good teamwork will make it work

[magic hinge]

Why do some heroes get to cancel their ultimate and have some percentage remaining and some don’t?

Like tarka can cancel, but Akos can’t

Is there a list of heroes who can and can’t or should I just try all of them

[opal depot]

yeah it depends

ones like takeda and justina that have multiple uses of an attack keep some rage if they don't use all of them

but wuchen's new ult has 2 uses but doesn't work that way so it isn't too consistent

[undone hound]

what is the hero with the most 100- 0 combo potential?

[kind ginkgo]

Depends on what kind of combos you are looking for 🤔

[undone hound]

whatever goes i can learn, the main goal is to deal the most ammount of dmg in a way that my opponent has no counterplay once i begin the combo

[kind ginkgo]

Then tarka is your go to

Tod combos are aviable for nearly all characters tho, and they all are situational

U don't have A surefire Tod combo that you can always get

And remember that you need to also be able to start a combo to execute it

[magic hinge]

Tarka is pretty difficult, unless you can consistently get the infinite

I think Zai is a bit easier

[kind ginkgo]

zai does not have tod combos

that's the whole point of the question; tarka has the most reliable and easy to execute set of tods

also, tarka being difficult it depends

[magic hinge]

Sorry then, just skimmed through and missed

[kind ginkgo]

np 👍

[mystic relic]

What's the max amount of ppl you can catch with tessa's ult?

[kind ginkgo]

i never reached it

i can tell you that up to 5 u can

[mystic relic]

Unlimited power

[empty swallow]

no limit from what we know

i've seen like a 6 man tessa ult

[mystic relic]

Interesting...

[little cargo]

Know that a lot of characters have combo breaker so they escape if they have them

[little cargo]

Those character who cancel their V to have some rage back usually use rage as a resource during V. For example, Takeda, Lyam and Justina consume some rage (40%) to initiate V and then use the remaining rage during V duration to active their ability, which means they can use their abilities more if they can pick up soulbloom or firefly during V duration. Tarka's V is the same but the rage acts as a timer until his V run out, he can (in theory) prolong his V infinitely because his V only run out if his rage reach 0%

Akos, Zai, Cyra and the transformers use their rage to initiate V, go into different form and all of their rage gone.

Funny thing is Yoto is actually on the first case, you can cancel her V early to retain some rage

[opal depot]

do you have the meme where a guy runs away from a guy around the map for like 2 minutes picking up fireflies with tarka's v

[little cargo]

I remember there was one on the server before the nuke

[opal depot]

it was funny as fuck in any case

[empty swallow]

takeda can (*or could) 100-0, tarka, lyam can do insane amounts of damage if you get them stuck in the combo, kylin has combo extension as well

this is all under the assumption the enemy has no combo break

you should go on youtube and search for "touch of death" combos

since when you touch them, they die at the end of the combo

tarka is probably the most consistent one, because it's easy to perform whenever you have your ult

and his combo is infinite

until they die, you combo them

that's what makes him so strong in solo mode, if you make one mistake without your combo breaker against tarka with his ultimate, you are out of the match

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7GnULcsxg0

and this is what takeda combo looked like

it's hard to learn and i'm not sure if it's still possible after netcode changes

[kind ginkgo]

Got patched out, this one specifically

There are variations tho 👍

(for example you can't slide and grapple anymore like they did at the end, and the float on ult it's a bit different I reckon)

[empty swallow]

welp tarka infinite still works

so if you want an infinite combo that's your go-to probably

[kind ginkgo]

yep

tarka has the easiest tod of all characters

followed kind of my justina imo

if you can start it, it's pretty easy to finish it

[little cargo]

But usually if you only focus onto specific combo to ToD and over extend, against people who know how to bait, you will be the one to get nuked

[kind ginkgo]

yepyep

tod are never or nearly never a go to

[little cargo]

You usually pick between either combo potential and combo breaker, and most people go with combo breaker

[kind ginkgo]

too many resources needed

[little cargo]

And you can get 3rd party

[undone hound]

Its the uppercut one?

[kind ginkgo]

cuz even if main tod combos got patched out, the amount of cc is still insane

[undone hound]

I can't send links sadly so i won't show what i mean

[little cargo]

Yeah, it's the uppercut one

[undone hound]

Looks easy enough

[kind ginkgo]

yeah, 2x slide uppercuts with cancel anuimation into a small wait for stamina and rinse and repeat till they are deat

dead*

[kind ginkgo]

it is; just need to learn how to use tarka ult, since it can cancel animations of anything

the issue with tarka is that if someone can play around him, he wont hit not even once while in ult

[little cargo]

But Tarka V sprint punch is not longer ultimate focus from what I remember

[kind ginkgo]

i can stun zai in golden focus

so it's stronger

[little cargo]

Yep, and for a character with no way to skip neutral with F and even during V... He kinda...

If he doesn't have his V, usually he on the weaker side facing almost everyone

[kind ginkgo]

yep

he's a hero solely constructed around ult pretty mich

much*

[little cargo]

And even with his V, people can trade V with him and he is still deal the worse hand

[undone hound]

I need a specjal kind of weapon for that or all worms?

Works"

[little cargo]

Katana and Heng only

[undone hound]

Kk thank you

[kind ginkgo]

katana and heng sword for that one

there is a tod with nunchucks also, but pretty difficult

also you can do the katana combo with fistblades if you have the sky punch jade

[little cargo]

He got nuked easily, relied a lot on the player neutral skill, almost cannot be used in team mode

[kind ginkgo]

otherwise you can also do a ToD with GS, but that one is ahrd

[kind ginkgo]

exactly

[empty swallow]

theres one with katana, there is also gs infinite

ik some tarka mains who exclusively play GS on the character

just for that combo

probably kills much quicker than katana

since gs is gs

[kind ginkgo]

dunking namely

he's the only one

there is also one for DH and DB i reckon, but i dont remember how it works

just knw that it needs a lot of fps

[little cargo]

I'm lazy consider stamina, however 4 uppercuts into a focus is over 2k dmg already

[kind ginkgo]

need 3 k for a tod

golden shield is 3.2 k dmg or around there

red is 35000

[little cargo]

Too lazy

[kind ginkgo]

3500*

[little cargo]

Dmg reduction also, consider that too

[kind ginkgo]

yep

if you wait each 2 uppercuts for half a sec, you get enough stamina to go indefinitely 👍

or also each 3 uppercuts it works

but a bit worse

[undone hound]

is how much someone launched to the air influenced by something?

[kind ginkgo]

The weapon, terrain,FPS, ms , timing, the kind of attack 🤔👍

[undone hound]

fps? seriously?

lol

[kind ginkgo]

FPS impact the speed of animations in the game

[undone hound]

lol

[kind ginkgo]

Meaning that combos can't be done under a certain amount of fps

For example basic grapple combos are doable at 65, but are consistent at around 85

[undone hound]

oh

[kind ginkgo]

Carousel is doable "only" above 120 consistently

Some swap combos the same

Double uppercut is doable at 75, but insanely tight timing and specific terrain, on 110 it s solid

The higher the FPS, the easier combos get (still hard, it's just a relative "easier")

Cuz animations speed up due to how the game is programmed

Things like tarka infinite tho, are pretty forgiving on FPS, since they work based on an ability that cuts and speeds up animations themselves, aswell as make uppercuts higher for example

[undone hound]

like im asking because i can't figure out how to launch him enough with the first upercut

so i can follow with the rest of the combo

like either i am terrible or i am clueless about something

[kind ginkgo]

What combo?

[undone hound]

tarka one

[kind ginkgo]

And what are you trying to do

[kind ginkgo]

Are you in ult?

[undone hound]

infinite

ye

[kind ginkgo]

Try and record a clip of it 🤔

My first guess is that you are not cancelling the uppercut animation, so you leave the ground and the enemy falls before you can do the next uppercut

[undone hound]

may be it tbh

ok i think i see my mistake

im challanged

i thought the guy on the video is saying to attack after the uppercut and i misred the imput

and was doign something else after

[kind ginkgo]

I'll check when I arrive home; my phone only shows me black screen when I try to watch it

(for context everything that is combo related is always better to put in #🔱┃weapons-combat 👍)

[kind ginkgo]

you are not using a slide uppercut here, that's the main problem

and the attack after the ult activation is too slow imo

try learning the easy one vang sent first; this one is complex and less reliable as a starter

[little cargo]

Also on the matter of combo, Katana vertical is not a combo starter, for Katana and Heng, you should use horizontal attack as combo starter

[kind ginkgo]

yep

[undone hound]

how long od i have to press c for it to count as sliding uppercut?

[kind ginkgo]

depends

i usually just tap it

it's mostly about timing

[undone hound]

GOT IT

can do it for around 2500 health

semi consistently

should be enough

[kind ginkgo]

Yep

[magic hinge]

Is Tarka va Justina a Bad matchup?

If 2 players of around equal skill go in to fight

How should I counter justina ult and skills?

[kind ginkgo]

Dodge the dash 🤔

[magic hinge]

Does it have a load up?

Cuz the ice slash is easy to dodge

But the dash one, seems to come out of nowhere

[olive sun]

it has startup animation but it's hard to react dodge
most of the time you gonna need to predict it

[kind ginkgo]

Need to predict it

[magic hinge]

:(((

Guess I just need to fight more justinas

[shut marsh]

what are the best skills for matari to equip??

[olive sun]

can't go wrong with F2 V2

[shut marsh]

thankyouu ^^ !!

[mystic relic]

f2 for sure,. V2 for solos or for a more agressive role in duos/trios, and v1 for a more support role

[teal flicker]

man i am trying to learn a basic grapple combo on dual sword, but it seems that the bot always gets to doge before i get to charge to 1.0

[mystic relic]

what's your ping? If it is somewhat high you most likely won't be able to get it (at least consistently) against other players, if it's something between 30-40 I believe you can still pull it off even if you don't get it against the bot

best way to try would be a custom room or songbird to test it against other players that have ping unlike the bot

[kind ginkgo]

Try sending a clip in #🔱┃weapons-combat ; seeing visually yyr execution will make it easier for us to understand where you are going right and where you are maybe doing some mistakes 🤔👍👍

[teal flicker]

my ping is consistent at 40ms

[teal flicker]

what is the program most use for clips on naraka?

[teal flicker]

another thing what yang buff you usually go for red, blue or white? example for cyra

[mystic relic]

Then I think you can pull it off against players. Can't really confirm since I'm on 80 ping and can no longer do it consistently lol

[mystic relic]

First Yang, safest is going for red. 2nd and 3rd Yang best is going for Draco (the cyan blue one)

Goes for any character really

[teal flicker]

what abilities we go on temmy solo?

[kind ginkgo]

Medal

Or also the basic windows one

Or streamlabs

Or obs

[kind ginkgo]

F1 v3

[magic hinge]

Is Akos V3 only really useful in trios?

Solo and Duo, the other ones seem better overall

[olive sun]

Depend if your team could make use of it

[magic hinge]

No

We are noobs

[kind ginkgo]

The real question is: could you make use of it?

[magic hinge]

No

I am also noob

[olive sun]

that's not what i'm saying

while you could run v1 or v2 on any team comp, v3 on the other hand got it unique usage

for example akos v3 - viper v1 - tianhai comp

u're almost guarantee to 1shot at least one if your team did it right

but if u guys screwed up or they got something to counter your comp (matari/wuchen v1 for example)

then that v3 is useless

[chrome cliff]

I recommend v2 for all game modes

[magic hinge]

Less damage and AOE than V1

I think for trios V1 is def better

[magic hinge]

How hard are hard bots in bot mode

[little cargo]

They are bots, they are not difficult especially compare to players or high rank bots

However they have 0 ping and can read your input (and even your ping/fps) to react to you, you might find them difficult

But they are a joke once you get to know them

If you want practice, try custom games with your friends or going for songbird fight instead of bot mode for improvement

[magic hinge]

Songbird fight, what’s that?

[little cargo]

In lobby, press tab to go into the free roam lobby, there is an arena in the map mark with the sword

It is like a fight pit for people to join

However Songbird arena is laggy as hell

[magic hinge]

The lobby overall is always laggy

I try to stay away unless I need to dig for treasure

[chrome cliff]

3 eat attacks in a row are just not as useful as the mixup potential from having 2 individual ones that can be used at any time instead of a claw or jump lmb attack

when akos was freshly added, all the chinese teams who ran viper akos wuchen played akos v2

v3 has wombo potential with viper, but wombos are bad since they can be countered by a single ult (e.g. wuchen, matari)

v1 is just not that good

so v2 is the way to go

[magic hinge]

Do anybody have the damage numbers in ultimates? Do ultimates just take damage from weapons as a base or their rarity

[magic hinge]

I’ll try it, but v1 seems pretty good so far

Sure, I can cast v2 even in the air and combo into something cooler

But usually after the tiger leap, the opponent is thrown so far away, I can’t run to them quickly enough

And when I fight more than 1v1, he can heap only 1 guy, V1 can slash multiple

If you got tips for V2, I’ll hear them out

I’m not very good at combos, so anything is useful

[chrome cliff]

you can do true ranged shots, e.g. 3 bow headshots

you can also do air lmb 2x if the enemy is pressed against a wall

akos is a combo character, better learn some

his F2 is one of the strongest combo starting Fs in the game

[magic hinge]

That‘s why I was asking tips on bow 😭

[magic hinge]

Well F2 is a combo starter or extender

But I like F1 because I’m noob

[tropic quiver]

i hope they remove this,this is just boring and annoying at the same time to go against lmao

[opal depot]

yeah the dark souls roll spam glyph is annoying to fight with a lot of weapons

[little cargo]

It takes weapon rarity

#💬┃general-chat message

Take a look at this

[deep relic]

When playing solo, can Kurumi heal herself with F?

[mystic relic]

I guess so, otherwise she would be useless

[magic hinge]

But does take into account the weapon type?

Or is it standardised

[little cargo]

Nope only rarity

[deep relic]

It seems she can teleport but that doesn't heal her

[kind ginkgo]

heal is passive when you are linked

f1 heals more over time , but all f heal

if you use f1 , on right click you will heal

left click is teleport

[mental lion]

can anyone here tell me how to access test server please

[little cargo]

well, she doesn't heal herself passively during F connecting...

[slate sierra]

yes she does, ive tethered to an umbrella to heal myself passively while shopping and your HP will restore during tether

it only heals hp tho not shields

[kind ginkgo]

She does

F1 restores hp quicker compared to f2 and F3 aswell

[little cargo]

Oh, okay

I remember trying it out during training and cannot get my own hp up

must be a severe case of giving false information

[magic hinge]

Are the bots crazy strong in ranks sometimes

I’m pretty sure I just got TOD comboed to death by about Justina

First time seeing something like this

[kind ginkgo]

they improve as you rank up, yeha

they dont tod, but recently they started doing combos indeed

[magic hinge]

Either I messed up or something, because I didn’t hit the floor once

And when I did

He fucking freezes me

[magic hinge]

One of the games, a bot came top1 with 29 kills

I thought that was a player

But I checked the profile with the same name, last online 5 days ago

Crazy stuff

[olive sun]

if it shows then it's a player

not a bot

[kind ginkgo]

yep

as tabbie said 👍

[magic hinge]

oh then nvm

I didn’t get TOD by a bot

At least some reconciliation

[olive sun]

bot don't do TOD

the annoying thing about them is the parry hack and the bs dodges

and sometimes the light attacks spam

[magic hinge]

Ye, with those bots I’m familiar

[little cargo]

Bots can't even combo properly, the best they can do is starting the combo -> uppercut -> air horizontal

Haven't seen a bot done anything close to combo, they are tough because they read your input and can perfect counterplay you with it. You release, they parry, you hold check, they just gonna attack into dodge if they can't parry, you light, they half hold to punish your recover

[mystic relic]

Except spear bots those are the worst

[magic hinge]

Dagger bots in my opinion

[magic hinge]

how much damage reduction does valda have in second ult

[kind ginkgo]

the one with the 3 spears?

none

they only stun for an absurd amount of time

[magic hinge]

she had 1 hp and then she ulted

[kind ginkgo]

and she gets a ton oh shield

that shield is 100% of her hp

[magic hinge]

nah there is no way she should have survived

[magic hinge]

fuck her

[kind ginkgo]

why?

[magic hinge]

i just did 13k damage just to die

[tawny hemlock]

Is there a tessa guide anywhere?

[kind ginkgo]

what do you need?

[tawny hemlock]

her control abilities to last longer like it used to before the nerf. It doesn't have to be as insane as vipers but now it's just you get 1 hit if you're fast enough. Also how do you counter wuchen's ult with the spears?

[kind ginkgo]

you cant counter wuchens spears atm

just dodge it when he throws it

otherwise you need to focus the small ones and then dodge the big ones

for tessa you need to play her as before, same thing

only, you need to defend your orb better, since people are able to release themselves way quicker

[tawny hemlock]

It seems unbeatable tbh, idk what I was doing wrong I couldn't get a hit in

[tawny hemlock]

he spammed it and kept chasing and attacking, I'll have to see a video somehere to know what to do

[kind ginkgo]

Your best bet is playing smth that does not get staggered by it

If it bothers you that much

ATM wuchen blades are indeed op 🤔👍👍

So not much counterplay, aside from heroes abilities

Or dodging the first hit

[tawny hemlock]

Yeah honestly it seems like poor game design, idk what they were thinking with those blades. Also awhat abilities and ults should I use for tessa. I used to use the aoe one now I use ult 1 but I'm not sure which is better for which mode

[kind ginkgo]

F1 v1 for tessa

Everywhere

V1 especially is not comparable to v2

Too strong

Also wuchen isn't that broken, aside his ult, which totally gets negated by things like Justina, cyra, Shayol,...

Game is pretty balanced overall

[tawny hemlock]

That's what I assumed, but if that's the case it seems it needs a reworK If they're both not a viable pick

[kind ginkgo]

who are not?

[tawny hemlock]

I meant tessa's ults

[kind ginkgo]

she just got reworked

and she is viable

simply the meta characters do things a bit better

if she gets buffed slightly she's going to be broken tho

in the last 3 months she got nerfed pretty much once per patch

[tawny hemlock]

you don't get what I'm saying. If f1 and v1 are so much better than f2 and v2, then v2 and f2 need to be adjusted otherwise what's the point of it being there. Also I don't get why every other control character's V isn't contingient upon grabbing the orb. Valda, justina, and viper to a degree get their control abilities off as long as the hit V. I just don't get it

but with that said and maybe it's because I don't fully understand it yet but I feel like wuchen, zai, cyra, valda, and justina are all extremely busted, soley because of their ults lol

(cyra not as much)

[kind ginkgo]

cyra is insanely busted 🤔

as a matter of fact she's one of the most picked heroes at the world cup atm 👍

[tawny hemlock]

ok I agree, I was lying so I didn't sound like I was complaining lmao

[kind ginkgo]

?

[tawny hemlock]

about cyra

[kind ginkgo]

ah 😆

[tawny hemlock]

I think she's genuinely insane, but because she's new I didn't want people saying I was complaining

[kind ginkgo]

well, tessa f2 is strong, but it's not a combo breaker, so it's useful only in some situations

the dmg ult it's not used because it does not stun for long, so that's why it's overall worse

[tawny hemlock]

I get that, why does she have an orb mechanic though and no other control character does?

[magic hinge]

Tips against matari and valdas

Matari blitz teleports

And Valda v2

I’m still not a really good player, but I can’t seem to get a big advantage in Akos ult

I can win with no skills, only neutral and weapons

With skills, the v2 roar is overall a good skills even if I can’t get out of stacks with it

But the ult, I feel like I don’t get such a big advantage

[kind ginkgo]

Cuz all control characters have counterplay

Her aswell

No orb = no counterplay for an already super strong ult

[magic hinge]

Same with Takeda, his V2 is nuts

Ult is okay

[kind ginkgo]

Spam parry when matari tp; tap dodge valdas spears

And whenever u see dashes, dodge

To the side

[magic hinge]

You can parry her?

[kind ginkgo]

Well, they usually charge blue and then tp

So yeah

You predict parry their tp

[magic hinge]

And the valda one, they often ult and throw 1 immediately

[kind ginkgo]

Or the dash f also, if not charged, it's parriable if you know it's comjng

[kind ginkgo]

U got the time to dodge de

[magic hinge]

This is huge

[tawny hemlock]

which ult for justina freezes them so your team can just take them out? I wanted to try her out because I got a skin for her

also what's her best f and v's

[kind ginkgo]

shes really hard

f2 v1 usually

but v1 is hard

[magic hinge]

So like with Akos and takeda, do I need insane combo skills?

[tawny hemlock]

I don't mean to sound rude but what makes her hard? don't you just need to press f in the direction of you r enemy or is there more to it than that?

[tawny hemlock]

so is v1 the one I'm talking about or what's hard about that one

[kind ginkgo]

the ult does not always freeze

also you need to learn how to cancel the dash and the timings

plus how to react in all situations

she has a really high skill ceiling

try her, and you will see what i mean 👍

[tawny hemlock]

I'll do it, I just need to play 1 game so I can get tessa in top100 real quick and I'll see how she plays

how would you rank the control characters?

[magic hinge]

Solo meta rn?

Maybe also Duo meta?

[kind ginkgo]

would need to think about it

but telmuch, viper, tessa are at the top

[tawny hemlock]

alright I got tessa as number 99 I'll try justina now and update you on my experience

[tawny hemlock]

why not justina? in my experience I don't think a tessa specifically in trios has ever given my team a problem but justinas have

[kind ginkgo]

justina is very situational

[tawny hemlock]

I understand what you're saying now, I also played against the number 1 ustina in tokyo though lol so maybe not the best experience

I didn't realize her f could be interrupted by valda's water balls

my freezes didn't seem like they were freezing for as long as there justina was

[kind ginkgo]

freeze time is always the same

[tawny hemlock]

I guess I was doing something wrong

[little cargo]

Tbh, he needs like a whole second to wind up for his V to come out (both initiating and throwing the sword). Unless he combo you or his teammates confirm it for him, you can tap dodge away from it hitting you.

[little cargo]

That one is one of the worst V in this game lmao

It barely deal dmg and it tripped away his tool to multiple times peeling for teammate, combo starter, combo breaker that presents in both his V1 and V3

V2 has one strong usage, controlling multiple enemy so teammates can ditch out dmg or combo with someone like Viper, but if you want to do so, pick someone like Valda so you can have both controlling effect and an F that can save yourself when needed

[calm ledge]

yo any one have a good preparation for Matari(solo) :D?

[digital tusk]

Who are some good solo and duos characters?

[magic hinge]

V2 has done me good service in duos and trios

V1 used to be my go to, but nowadays people who see the v1 just spam light stacks anyways or I still get comboed to death

I’ll try v3

[little cargo]

V3 is the same as V1 tbh

Just upgrade with rarity of weapons inside your team bags

But how tf did you died because people light attack you during V1

I'm not being mean, I am curious af

[magic hinge]

Well I usually popped it to stop getting blue focused

Or just pushed with it into the blue focus

10sec is a pretty long time

[magic hinge]

It’s okay, I’m pretty noob still

[magic hinge]

Haven’t even unlocked Valda yet

I have Tarka, Akos, Takeda, Zai and Yoto

And the 4 starting heroes

I also have like 30 more trials on cyra

I think unlocking Tarka as the second hero was a bad idea

And having Akos as the first hero also doesn’t help

[kind ginkgo]

Check the pinned comments, there are glyphs builds for each and every hero aviable in the game 👍👍

[kind ginkgo]

Why? Akos is great 🤔

[kind ginkgo]

Solos and duos are pretty much the same; Lyam, Shayol, valda, Hadi, Justina, matari,....

Pretty much anything goes

Top picked in pro play ATM are: cyra, valda, Lyam I reckon

But dw with a few exceptions that are not really meant for solos, everything is viable

(by exceptions I mean kurumi; she can work, but it's all up to your skill, her set of abilities isn't thought for solo playstyle)

[olive sun]

there's ALOT more than that lol

[magic hinge]

In buildings yeah

Open fields, idk

My hopping is bad

[kind ginkgo]

Yeah, in buildings less good 🤔

Open fields he's good

[magic hinge]

What? Huh?

[kind ginkgo]

If you get the hopping down u get free combo starters 🤔

And people can't get away

Singe the jump horizontal while hopping is purple focus and combo starter

Plus he got a ton of combo extender possibilities or start, with f2

[magic hinge]

Does the claw jump stun people?

[kind ginkgo]

It staggers the same as a katana horizontal attack

So you can start a combo from it

[magic hinge]

I didn’t know

I was just hopping and pouncing randomly

That’s why I always latched onto a wall

Infinite jumping around

[kind ginkgo]

I see

My suggestion would be to check out some pro player playing Akos; I think it will open a world of possibilities to you 🤔👍

He's a combo character 👍👍

[magic hinge]

I need to learn to at least grapple combo

[kind ginkgo]

👍👍

For that I recommend joining #🏋┃dojo-coaching 👍

It can be really helpful 👍

Otherwise, if you need help just ask, we ll do our best to help

[magic hinge]

I’ve been steadily climbing solo and duo ranks

So I haven’t tried learning too much

But now, I’m getting destroyed in gold

So I need to learn more

[kind ginkgo]

Yep

Until platinum you mostly fight bots, that s why the steady climb at the beginning usually

After that, even a small difference in game understanding will feel like an insurmountable one to face

Especially in the beginning, every little improvement can be massive

[magic hinge]

Oh yeah, meeting Chinese tarkas and Justinas has been a thing lately

[kind ginkgo]

Don't give too much weight to Chinese names; a lot of people just use Chinese characters because they look cool 🤔

[magic hinge]

And when I get a Chinese guy in my team in trio

[kind ginkgo]

I didn't say there are none

There is also a lot of people that are here for school for example 🤔

Or that simply like to try new servers sometimes

[magic hinge]

Yeah, makes sense

[kind ginkgo]

But dw, not all people with Chinese characters in their name are pros 👍

By all means

[magic hinge]

Of course

But I’ll try some combos with Akos

And we’ll see if I get to platinum by the und of the year

[kind ginkgo]

You will for sure 👍👍👍

As long as you focus on improving and play a lot, it will happen no worries

Same goes for Asura

[magic hinge]

But just to ask

Are there more gold and platinum players in duo ?

Because all of my games in gold, I’ve been getting a lot of solars and empyreans

Sure, I get like+40 with 3 kills

But I feel like, there should be more gold and platinum players, no?

[olive sun]

nah nobody plays duo

[magic hinge]

:((

I’ll meet an Asura in a gold lobby for sure

[olive sun]

doesn't really matters tbh

[little cargo]

If they are good, they are good

[olive sun]

cuz 1: matchmaking in naraka global has always been sht and will always be sht and 2: rank doesn't really reflect one's gameplay skill

[magic hinge]

Well it doesn’t, ye

But it does say how much somebody has played

You can’t get asura in 20 games

[olive sun]

doesn't mean they're good lol
there's 5k players with 4.0 KD and 30k avg and there's 6k players with negative KD and avg at 6k or something

[magic hinge]

[olive sun]

the matchmaking is so sht that to expect you get a similar skill lobby is just daydreaming

[magic hinge]

Dreams are hopeful, after all

Well I hope to get better

So I can be destroyed by even higher skilled guys

[olive sun]

tbh it's hard
cuz most of the time you gonna either ran into ppl that way below your skill level and you killed them easily (learned nothing) OR you ran into ppl that's way better than you and got killed easily (also learned nothing)

[magic hinge]

That’s how it is

[olive sun]

i'd suggest finding some sparring mates

and have them explain to you why you lose, what you did wrong

[magic hinge]

Yeah I’m the new one in my friend group

And the only one who plays solo rank

They help me a lot in duo and trio

[olive sun]

tough luck

solo play very different compare to trios

but well

in the end

just play

u'll learn

[kind ginkgo]

Depends on the time

[empty swallow]

not a lot

i think most players are empyrean+

because it's so easy to reach

if you play the game for a few days you are pretty much guaranteed to get it unless you're an absolute beginner, then you need to learn the game first

[magic hinge]

Guanranteed? Maybe. But I also want to win doing so

Getting 3 kills and not seeing everybody until top 10 is not what one would call quality gameplay

[empty swallow]

sometimes u will see more players

sometimes less

there are some things you can do to fight more

as running around seeing no one is the worst type of match u can have arguably

1. hotdrop in a zone with lots of players and go to other hot loot zones
2. when people die, go to nearby soul altars where you predict they might revive
3. go for yang gate and morus blessings

[kind ginkgo]

hiding in a bush till the top 5 tho... 👀

[empty swallow]

🔔

[fast tendon]

[fast tendon]

The best option is to go where there are a lot of players

the chance to get something is higher

finish off the rest and loot them

but without teamwork nothing will come of it

[magic hinge]

its bout solo though haha

[rocky dove]

Anyone here an Akos main? I’d like some pointers

[trail mango]

I also need pointers but for Tarka Ji instead

[kind ginkgo]

Wouldn't recommend him as the first hero 🤔👍

He requires a good understanding of the game fighting system and combos to work

Definitely not a beginner friendly character 👍

[magic hinge]

Hahahaha

[kind ginkgo]

? It's true

[magic hinge]

It is

But I picked him second because he looked cool

Now, I don’t even use him :((

[trail mango]

imma make him work, trust

ive gotten better at the combat but obviously not comp level but good enough to get a consistent 66% top 5 rate do i get tarka tips now?

[kind ginkgo]

what rank are you now?

also, how is your neutral?

got a few clips of you fighting?

tarka is all about playing the neutral ; there isnt really a series of hints for the hero, since it completely depends on the ult aside from neutral

[trail mango]

my recording software hasnt worked for a few years

[kind ginkgo]

if you want specific hints or inputs on how to play tarka, i really recommend tuning in to dunkingdonut's stream; he's the best tarka we have in europe, and he's also really helpful 👍

plus his gameplay is top tier 👍 , so u can always learn a thing or two from him

[trail mango]

i am watching him currently lol

[trail mango]

fr his previous match was crazy

[trail mango]

im having a hard time understanding it well but i can see it

[kind ginkgo]

be sure to work on it; neutral is fundamental with tarka

otherwise the hero wont work at all

[trail mango]

like what is nutural exactly all im understanding is its when you have the upper hand and force them to make a mistake first

[olive sun]

huh i thought you just turn on your V and release every blue cuz you can get out even if you got parried?

[kind ginkgo]

neutral is the ability to land a light attack to start a combo against an adversary

it also includes mouvement related to fighting, like scalerush,...

and also and more improtantly hold checking

plus the ability to catch the enemy

[trail mango]

so it is kinda like getting the upperhand and making them make a mistake?

[kind ginkgo]

not making them make a mistake

but catching them

[olive sun]

mistake exploiting is obviously a part of it

[kind ginkgo]

exactly

[olive sun]

but it's not just that

[kind ginkgo]

but u cant force someone to make a mistake

need to learn their patterns, adapt to them and catch / predict/ understand their fighting

[trail mango]

i see

[olive sun]

neutral is everything you do to get the prio

[kind ginkgo]

in order to counter it

[kind ginkgo]

👍

[trail mango]

so itsa more of a mind game?