🙎┃character-guides

[radiant garden]

Lemme reask this

What's the best glyphs for Takeda and specific Movesets?

I main him just wanna make sure I got the best edge I can

[rough yoke]

I don’t think this video is accurate , we have reworked abilities and a new glyph board

[radiant garden]

Do you have a more accurate? Or point me in the right direction

[kind ginkgo]

U want ult and CDR 👍

So classic glyphs build

Moveset depends; but generally you can go v1 for solos

As for skills you could like going with F1 or F3 generally 🤔

F3 is good also for combos, since it's a restand

[radiant garden]

Awesome!! I'll keep all that in mind and work on him 😊

[kind ginkgo]

👍👍

If you need help don't hesitate writing 👍👍

[wraith cargo]

Does Valda V3 not deal any dmg?

[kind ginkgo]

Yep

[wraith cargo]

thx

[chrome cliff]

this is my most recent video on the topic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irtt2G87Pu0

but even this is outdated in part, i am actually making a new one right now

upload tonight or tomorrow

[rough yoke]

If you make the new one i will Pin it

[radiant garden]

Would you ping me when uve uploaded it

[chrome cliff]

@radiant garden @rough yoke it's 3 am and the substitles are taking forever to get timings

i can't publish it yet

i will try to remember tomorrow but i got a lot of stuff going on atm, you're welcome to slide into DMs

[gleaming bronze]

is this still good gylph for telmuch duo trio?

[olive sun]

If you run v3 prolly better to not run cdr

[gleaming bronze]

what is cdr again?

[kind ginkgo]

Cool down reduction

Which is last green node

[shadow meadow]

help me build viper ning

[chrome cliff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnbxhDbvuNM

@rough yoke newest video on glyphs

@radiant garden

[radiant garden]

Awesome!!! Thank youu

[rough yoke]

[radiant garden]

Takeda not special 😭😭

[chrome cliff]

yeah it's a good idea to run standard green/red on him

you could go shop discount or purple if you're very confident, but most players die too easily without green on takeda

[radiant garden]

Sounds good to me 😊 I didn't redo my glyph path till last night and I'm ranked gold 2 so now I can soar even higher!!!!!

[kind ginkgo]

Go for it 👍👍

[lost dagger]

Thank you for the new guide! I'll definitely be directing new players to this

[hallow tulip]

any Hadi mains around? dunno how this channel works. so, sorry if this is not what i'm supposed to ask. (?) 😳

[kind ginkgo]

what do you need to knw about hadi?

(you are exactly in the right place, if it's questions about heroes 👍 , dw)

[hallow tulip]

so my favorite weapon is Fan ever since i joined the game (i joined right as Hadi was released, even tho i started on Ziping Yin), but now that i'm mainin' Hadi i would love to know what's a good secondary weapon for him and why?

i generally use dual weapons or Nunchucks as secondary dependin' on what i find as the match goes, but i'm not sure if that's what's most optimal for Hadi?

https://tenor.com/view/drink-cola-gif-26292204

[kind ginkgo]

hadi works with any weapon to be fair 👍

just pick the weapon you like

he does not have any specific combo; but for the ult make sure to have equipped your strongest weapon, since it gives your slashes more dmg based on rarity 👍

for secondary i would recommend a ranged weapon in general; it has a lot of benefits and allows to punish enemies that simply dont close up on you 👍

plus you can fit in some nice dmg after a combo when they are downed evetually

[hallow tulip]

ranger weapons are useful? why do i never see anyone usin' them?

[kind ginkgo]

on lower ranks people dont really understand the importante of ranged weapons, and, most importantly, ranged is also very situational 👍

[peak helm]

Ranged weapons work best when using various animation cancels to quickly swap between melee/ranged or shoot quickly in succession
I think this short section of Rex's most recent montage demonstrates some of the potential well https://youtu.be/pTyAXaAPhFA?si=2EiGURIBt0cnfGaV&t=377

He goes for a hold dodge catch with DB rmb->rmb
After the 2nd stage rmb, the Matari can use her abilities, because there is no way to continue staggering her. Currently the most popular F on Matari is F2, which, if she connected it onto Rex, would give her a free combo. In anticipation of her using this skill, Rex jumps to try and avoid it
After his first jump he notices that she isn't going for an F, so he jumps again and swaps to ranged during the jump. Jumping is a common way to cancel your current animation and perhaps swap to another weapon, here his bow
He shoots her once and immediately hold dodges backwards, and while doing so swaps back to his melee weapon. Dodges are another way to quickly swap weapons. His enemy didn't anticipate this, so she released a focus attack, thinking Rex can't parry, because he's still holding his bow, when in fact he swapped back to his DB and gets off the parry

The first section of the video shows the use of hold dodge cancels to shoot repeatedly, and how the stagger of bow headshots can be used to extend combos

[hallow tulip]

i don't understand this. anyone can get close to anyone in this game.

Hadi can't use weapons durin' flight so isn't this kind of useless?

[kind ginkgo]

check what takao wrote 👍

he is the top expert on the weapon matter :th

[hallow tulip]

oh, i did read it but it doesn't say anythin' about hittin' people who can't close distance. that's why i was confused.

[kind ginkgo]

oh, i see

what i eant is that there are some individuals that will simply hold check you from a distance, waiting for you to run into their faces

ranged weapons are good in that case for example

👍

[hallow tulip]

i see, i see. fair enough! 😄

[empty swallow]

He has his own weapon during flight, a mechanical blade that can burn enemies

[hallow tulip]

yeah, that's why i said Hadi can't use weapons durin' flight. hence my confusion. 🤧

[radiant garden]

Any tips on what weapons to use for takeda? I currently main heng sword or longsword

[olive sun]

Usually kata or heng cuz he can do multiple air juggle with those + his ult, but it's advanced move. If you can't do that then you can just go with weaps that has long range such as fan so you can safely release blue with ur ult

[radiant garden]

Okay 😊

[verbal harbor]

cd reduction .... surely you know what CD 's is

[kind ginkgo]

Call of duty?

[peak helm]

For Hadi's ult specifically only the weapon rarity matters. If you're holding a gold rarity weapon while ulting, your ult will deal more damage than if you're holding say a blue rarity weapon. The type of weapon is indeed irrelevant because Hadi's ult converts it into his blade

I think Eranicks took you saying that you like nunchucks as secondary in the sense that your first weapon slot is used for DB/DH and your second weapon slot for nunchucks. In response to that, he gave a general recommendation for ranged weapons in your second weapon slot, which is not specific to Hadi or any character really
I followed up on your question about the usefulness of ranged weapons with what I wrote

The whole ranged conversation wasn't really specific to Hadi as a character

[torn geyser]

Out of curiosity how do i deal with Hadi or Zai Ji? They seem not Counterable?

[exotic marsh]

This is advice from an amateur so it might not work in high rank, but with hadi I’ve found charging the vertical(kick attack) from fist blades and aiming it away from him and then into him works to knock him out. Sometimes you’ll want to dodge his swing while charging first then release directly.

otherwise dodge into him. Or run looking for cover

with zai, if you have an ult that can counter her ult back. Otherwise I wouldn’t advice fighting her since she can parry your blue focuses. running is your best option

some could be caught off guard with a scale rush while running away from them

[torn geyser]

Thanks @exotic marsh !

[iron spruce]

gonna try out feria, whats the trios meta?

[slate sierra]

F1 or F3, and V3 for ult. F1 is safer but F3 does a decent bit of dmg & applies a brief silence if you can hit it

[iron spruce]

awesome thanks for that!

[winged star]

I got a question. Noticing mitari players charge greatswrod tp then hit with the chage attack after they tped how do I do that?

[kind ginkgo]

That's the V2 effect; it can teleport you behind a person twice, without interrupting what you are doing 🤔

[empty swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-super-saiyan-gif-18286968

matari gameplay

[exotic marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/weave-dodge-fight-fighting-weaving-gif-25366275

Meanwhile fist blade users

[kind ginkgo]

[wraith cargo]

In the glyphs the "start with 15% rage" does that only apply to the start of the game or every time after the ultimate is used?

and what are Kurumi trio abilities?

[kind ginkgo]

only start of game

[kind ginkgo]

dmg reduction on f (i think its f3) and v2

[wraith cargo]

ty

For trio Zai - would the first one be overkill or worth a shot compared to the 2nd version?

perhaps this

That might also be sth for Kylin

[wise beacon]

whats the best V for takeda?

[zinc plume]

v1 in solos v3 in trios

[wise beacon]

what about in duos?

[shut vigil]

lowkey think thats preferance

but if ur luck is crappy

v1

cuz to get gold v3 ur team needs better luck than if u were in trios

unless u r lucky or ultra confident in ur skills in killing and looting enemy golds, v3 wouldn't get as much value.

[olive sun]

keep grapple distance
the rest just throw in rage tree

obviously prio rage/dmg over rage/dmg taken

starting rage is eh

if your team have a plan to drop into fireflies zones and fight early, maybe

otherwise it's kinda not worth since it only take effect 1 time per game, at the start

can ditch red last node too

and maybe something in purple

[kind ginkgo]

Takeda does not rely on luck 🤔, it's all about skill in this game

[shut vigil]

Ok the bad me requires luck 🤓

[compact ledge]

If you play Trios Zai with F3 then play Skill Cooldown on the Grapple Distance Path and rest on Rage/DMG done

[radiant plinth]

same I think it offers the most value

[umbral needle]

does anyone have any good kurumi glyphs?

[radiant plinth]

With timestamp
https://youtu.be/nnbxhDbvuNM?si=DgIrn_50oT6itLIc&t=143

[fiery tusk]

bruh these glyphs

[radiant plinth]

tbh. I play full rage xD

[fiery tusk]

this is pretty good for any mode

on chars like Kurumi/Tessa/V3 Justina

you can change this one for Blunt or MAYBE Bonanza

i think Bonanza sucks

but since polesword is getting more popular even in solos

blunt is a decent option

since its something that helps you through the entire game

Glyph System is very simple tho avoid purple and blue is also pretty meh now

[compact ledge]

I agree with meido

[willow sparrow]

Thanks to kelly

[kind ginkgo]

polesword is getting nerfed tomorrow, dw 🤔

still going to stay popular tho

[woven rune]

What glyphs should I use on new Matari for solo/trios?

[olive sun]

standard rage focused with grapple range and 0 cdr plan

[woven rune]

Oh you don't do the Aegis and Genius?

I tried this setup

Gonna give yours a try

[woven rune]

Do you use this setup for solos and trios?

[olive sun]

you can get Aegis instead of Blunt on purple
Genius is not necessary since her F already have a short cd, she also got extra charge and reset F cd when she pops her V and another F after V ranout/turned off

[olive sun]

yeah
though for solo i think this is more fitting

[woven rune]

Alright thanks a lot, will try them out

I see what you mean with the skill too so that makes a lot of sense

[fiery tusk]

i wouldnt ditch the cdr for blunt and rage dmg taken

[olive sun]

not for other heroes
for matari yes
but yeah ofc if you want more cdr why not

[fiery tusk]

why for matari

[olive sun]

.

[fiery tusk]

14secs vs 18secs

thats quite alot

for something that broken

[olive sun]

okay

if you think so

[fiery tusk]

and i would never run this for trios

at least on matari

for certain heroes its good

[olive sun]

sure you're the best

[fiery tusk]

i know

always glad to help

[finite radish]

does killing enemy reset stamina?

[zinc plume]

no

[burnt gate]

When will the European server open?

[abstract rivet]

It seems to be at 6:00

[compact ledge]

it fills it up to 100% yes

[compact ledge]

it does

[clear cove]

Hello guys, i am pretty new to this game and i am takeda user, can u give me guides?

[kind ginkgo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqasbsX3hx0

a bit old , but it should do the job 👍

[echo topaz]

im playin tarka ji with f3v2

is it a good choice

[clear cove]

Thanks broo

[solemn yarrow]

Can anyone tell me how to skill my glyph board for Kylin?

[cold spade]

[pure bronze]

THIS girl needs a valda cui glyph setup

duos/trios

[orchid star]

pins

[orchid star]

the general glyph page works fine for now until someone comes up with smthn @cold spade

also pins

[solemn yarrow]

Thank you

[orchid star]

keep in mind there is no real set meta when it comes to glyphs you're free to adjust to your playstyle

[solemn yarrow]

I'm just a noon looking for guidance haha

[orchid star]

video in pins is very helpful as i mentioned

[rocky plaza]

[topaz cargo]

anyone got a glyph build for zai?

[winged star]

how do you deal with wuchen's new ult?

[kind ginkgo]

Either dodge the first arrow, or u cannot do anything 🤔👍

It needs a nerf asap

[fiery tusk]

if you play solos Shayol or Justina are good against him

[winged star]

aight that's what i thought but wasn't sure if i was missing something thanks

[kind ginkgo]

this is also another nice thing, yeahj

[glossy nimbus]

Whats the thoughts on wuchen's rework so far?

Idk how I feel about it-- self tele seems pretty bad unless you're a troll or....I guess an butthole in teams I guess, whereas his new Ult is scary powerful

[kind ginkgo]

He is probably the strongest hero in the game ATM 🤔👍👍

[topaz cargo]

Thank you

[wraith cargo]

Does it make sense to take Aegis as Feria?

[hard kettle]

He is Beyond BUSTED mate... i though matari was op but nah.

[rocky plaza]

[wraith cargo]

Does Wuchen V2 dmg scale with weapon rarity or is it flat?

[native siren]

His tp skill is basically his old ult (v2 I think it was) and it’s a true combo starter too if you are close enough. So that means you can get some pretty sweet restands with him.

[kind ginkgo]

Yes

[topaz cargo]

does anyone have a glyph for tessa duo/solo?

[kind ginkgo]

Sure, give me a sec

[wraith cargo]

to what was that a yes?

[kind ginkgo]

It scales with weapon rarity

[wraith cargo]

ty

[compact ledge]

Anyone knows how to find caves key?

Please I'm stuck on Valda cultivation

[kind ginkgo]

frogs, or random loot in stashes 👍

[little cargo]

If you want to do it easily, go into bot mode easy, try to roam and listen to sound of frog, kill it and grab key

[fair hinge]

Bot mode is not easy way to do it. Go to qm and raid the caves when someone finds key for it. Way faster than bot mode

[compact ledge]

Ty guys I'm working on it

[compact ledge]

This sounds more interesting 🤣

But it might be the key holder is too strong

[fair hinge]

It could be anyone lmao. I did my caves in qm trio. Was lucky when had game with 2 caves that i successfully stole. Its very common for key holder to show up alone

[compact ledge]

Oh okay but isn't better in solo mode instead of trio?

[fair hinge]

In trios its probably bigger chance for ppl to find keys than solo. I could be wrong since its a while since I did this culti and stopped raiding caves for it

[echo dust]

Do you think the 1st Shayol's ult is better to use ? Or the 2nd one, in your opinion ?

I start using the 2nd to try, but...well I think the 1st looks better. But I'm not sure.

[fallow steppe]

Anyone got a Kylin board ?

[kind ginkgo]

glyphs?

[fallow steppe]

yeah

sorry

[kind ginkgo]

same as always pretty much 👍

i would recommend rage oriented oen

[fallow steppe]

I just got back idk what’s mets and stuff

meta *

[fallow steppe]

Do you have a picture of a glyph board ?

im sorry to bother

[kind ginkgo]

sure, gimme a few minutes 👍

[fallow steppe]

np take your time !

[light wren]

How do you even counter kylin ult?
Guard make him so hard to kill and the attack dash seem to be literally win button

[olive sun]

well, it is

[light wren]

ah

[fallow steppe]

have you gotten the glyph ?

[kind ginkgo]

they are coming 👍

[fallow steppe]

kk

[kind ginkgo]

i would recommend these on most of the heroes

[fallow steppe]

TYSM!

[kind ginkgo]

np

sry for the wait

[fallow steppe]

it’s all good<3

[regal crane]

who is the most survivable/safe character that can get out of sticky situations ?

[olive sun]

Lyam

[willow sparrow]

shayol?

[uncut rune]

is there any way to not get killed after getting hit by wuchen ult ?

[kind ginkgo]

Being Shayol in ult and pray while standing still 👍😂

[uncut rune]

-_-

i play lyam

[static wing]

any gylph build for zai?

[olive sun]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-angry-big-mouth-bye-connie-gif-15403165

[fervent wind]

hello!! does anyone have lyam liu glyphs for solo and duo please?

[grave crystal]

Anyone have a glyph for Yoto hime?

[wraith cargo]

In which cases does Wuchen F2 not teleport you after you sent that blade somewhere?
For example you use F2, use it again and while the blade is mid air you get knocked up.

[willow sparrow]

i think it always does

which is why most wuchen try to hit you with it while they are in the air

so that once it swap places, they can juggle you

[deep relic]

Do we know of any upcoming hero reworks (skill and ult)?

[wraith cargo]

Also when you are under control like Tianhai ult grap or Tessa/Viper ult?

[willow sparrow]

Don't think you can use any skill when grabbed or stunned

[proper swift]

is there a complete list of character cosmetics? haven't had much luck searching online.

[olive sun]

there isn't

iirc i saw someone said they're gonna make it, their account is like top 3 on collection leaderboard or something

[winter granite]

What's a good character for an aggressive playstyle?

[wraith cargo]

Tarka would be my first thought

[lost dagger]

The top 3 in solo meta currently are wuchen, kylin, and matari. All 3 are good for aggressive playstyles. You can also pick lyam, justina, akos, hadi, shayol

You are able to try out heros in free training, so just pick whoever seems the most fun to you

[olive sun]

for anyone saying ''Kylin V are not broken'', even Spider couldn't get out of the continuous juggling once he got hit by Kylin V and doesn't have his combo breaker F

[opal depot]

his f2>

[exotic marsh]

Just makes me feel
Bad for yoto mains.

This probs the ult they always wanted but will never have

[exotic marsh]

and I mean all ults have infinites no? he made the mistake of using wuchen f combo breaker which leaves you vulnerable for a bit.

[olive sun]

yoto desperately need a rework/improvement atm

[olive sun]

wdym all ults have infinites

[exotic marsh]

it’s like a valda using her combo breaker and you dodge into it and then ult them any ult

[exotic marsh]

Sorry sorry not all but most do

[olive sun]

most?

[exotic marsh]

matari, Justina, takeda, akos, Temulch,

Hmm

Who else

Wait let me think for a sec I’m pretty high

maybe not most huh

[olive sun]

what i'm taking about isn't ''using abilities to do infinites weapon combo potential'' of a character

it's about how fast kylin can cast his next slash after previous one

[exotic marsh]

There’s a lot of hero’s that trade infinite for survivability. Damage or niche techs

[olive sun]

he literally juggled people in the air w/o any spaces for them to even use one dash

and with that damages on each slash

[exotic marsh]

What pace do you think it should have

Faster than yoto. But not as fast as justina

it’s hard to decide with a weird ult like that

gives you purple armor, can be charged, but is vulnerable if you don’t release fast enough

More so with things like fist blades on the lose

To punish if you miss

[olive sun]

if they keep the damages then let people able to dodge out of each normal slash
if they nerf the damages then maybe make it similar to zai V when you need to build up energy for the charged slash

[exotic marsh]

Oh so nerf the stagger

[olive sun]

and the air juggling duration

[exotic marsh]

Issa w idea

I can’t deny your logic

[olive sun]

like, it shouldn't be ''you get hit by 1st slash you get hit by the next 5 after''

[exotic marsh]

isn’t Justina ish like that

But you exhange damage for stagger

with justina

[kind ginkgo]

ehrmm......

[exotic marsh]

Kylin doesn’t lose anything

[olive sun]

compare the damages

[kind ginkgo]

stagger = combo = tod normally with her ult 🤔

[olive sun]

justina dashes deal like 0 damages

[exotic marsh]

THATS also true

she can stagger you for combo into Tod

Which ends up the same as kylin

In the bigger picture

[olive sun]

you forgot team modes

[exotic marsh]

I always forget that… but everyone is always quick to remind me that horrible mess exists

I wish trios would die

[olive sun]

anyway
Kylin V def need a nerf
either speed, damages, stagger duration or its stacks

currently it got everything

fast casting, short delay between each slashes, high damages, long stagger duration, and you can cast it like 7+ times on a NORMAL situation

also worth to mention that you don't need to do any weapon combos

[exotic marsh]

Nerf kylin ult 2024

[olive sun]

now that you mention Yoto and how Kylin V is the V that she wants but never have, i just realize that i couldn't agree more

imagine Yoto V slashes got that projectile speed, and she could lmb to flash slash or hold it for a charged slash, then she could right click to instantly teleport or dashes with the same speed as Kylin V

[fervent wind]

What glyphs would Lyam Liu be running in solos/duos?

[exotic marsh]

Yup

as it should be

[olive sun]

classic red green

[light wren]

There is also the guard of the ult making it a pain to kill, no?

[olive sun]

yeah that sht too

[light wren]

even if i somehow dodge the slashes and survive i can't even kill them 😭

[olive sun]

just

tone it down

like

[fervent wind]

Thanks, the same for both solos and duos?

[olive sun]

yeah realistically speaking there nothing else that worth taking on him

in all modes

[final breach]

Wuchen Ult is way to much now. something needs to be done about it

[wraith cargo]

Didn't get get a nerv yesterday?

Sth about changing the intervals of the blades hitting

[final breach]

it stagers way to much for way to long

[kind ginkgo]

Not worth mentioning

[fiery tusk]

spider misplayed that hard he coudlve gotten out easily

[exotic marsh]

Saying

W take

[compact ledge]

i hate this game

[lost dagger]

Ok?

[opal depot]

fax

[hybrid python]

Any idea on the telmuch slam?

[kind ginkgo]

slam?

[hybrid python]

Yeah. I just encountered a player that grabbed me with his legs and slam me twice with him

[olive sun]

either this

or this

so no it's not a Temulch thing

[kind ginkgo]

yep

[hybrid python]

Nope

[native oxide]

Thoughts on which moves to run for Zai solo?

[olive sun]

F1 V2

[mint mauve]

people say kylin V2 is better yet whenever i use it im on life support and i die, why is it better or how

[native oxide]

thank you

[olive sun]

it's better because

• you're able to confirm multiple slashes if you hit one charged slash, with a right distance . V1 can only confirm 1 normal slash after a succesful charged slash
• on the stacks that cost health to cast, if you hit 2+ people with it then you don't lose the stack
• better stagger with the shadow slash
  also no one says you MUST use all the slashes even you know it will put you on life support, running around while holding it you already create pressure on enemies for your teammates to do their parts

[mint mauve]

whichcharge ?

i just click left or right and then it just take me 20 miles away and i lose enemy

[olive sun]

https://youtu.be/DD-osTvsQVA

[olive sun]

don't do that then

🤷‍♂️

naraka isn't a game that you win by ''just click left and right and ended up 20 miles away''

[royal cove]

Ty~

[molten atlas]

Any tips on Tessa anyone? Any will do

[final pawn]

Skill 1, Ulti 1, use ulti to open combat, the fighting should get you enough rage to use ulti the second time during combat

[molten atlas]

👍

[echo topaz]

ive seen people doing an upper cut combo with like 2-3 uppercuts while using tarka ji's V

is there any guide for it

[wraith cargo]

What F on Wuchen for Trios? I am pendling between both atm

[kind ginkgo]

Shield works, but depending on the comp also the f2 works

[placid tapir]

[stone bloom]

Shield one is higher value, but if your team already has a support (or if you dont trust your teammates to group) then switch is fine

[wraith cargo]

I felt bad for not trusting my mates (Tarka players mostly) but that's reassuring to hear, thanks!

[rich thistle]

which one should I buy next?

[potent sand]

Wuchen 👀

[rich thistle]

thx

[rich thistle]

which f and v

[opal depot]

both skills are great but v1 requires more planning and is less useful in solos

[mint mauve]

is yoto hime bad ? whenever i use her ultimate the enemy just run away somehow, what can i do against it and right now all i do is right click to strike faster that attacks faster still i barely get to use it

unlike a kylin zhang that attacks me literally in the air as im falling

[mint mauve]

and one more thing is that when im in a fight its hard to get out of it

[olive sun]

yeah yoto is in a bad state

[mint mauve]

BUT.. SHES THE REASON I STARTED PLAYING..

is ther ANYTHING

i can do

except change my main

[olive sun]

you play solo?

[mint mauve]

yup

mostly solo

might play duos though just for the battle pass mission

[olive sun]

better change main ngl

[mint mauve]

sigh

then fine

my other favourites are

1st kylin zhang and 2nd hadi and 3rd valda cui

who do i change to

also as you noticed my style of gameplay is i like characters that can go into a special stronger state with cooler weapons in their ultimate

[olive sun]

hadi kylin solid
valda... eh, i saw some people still manage to make her works but it's kinda took too much effort

[mint mauve]

is it because she cant move in her ulti ?

[olive sun]

no, most solo valda pick v2

[mint mauve]

is there any hope at all

someday yoto hime can be meta

[olive sun]

maybe
she desperately needing a rework

[mint mauve]

i didnt see it much

but now in ranked and after playing with actually like good players

for the skill it they just move back

and for the ultimate

they just run away

[olive sun]

don't even need to run

can just react dodge

[mint mauve]

like me and enemy is low health, i do yoto ultimate and they run away and after her ultimate ends, a kylin zhang throws me in the air and attacks while im falling and i die before i even hit the ground

they made kylin too broken

like he can even attack while in air

[olive sun]

same reason why you never see tianhai in solo

[mint mauve]

i tried once and i never gonna play him again

his demon form is just so slow

a 4 year old toddler can beat him in a race

[olive sun]

well some characters current kit is just not fitting for solo

[mint mauve]

i saw some people mention

a lot characters get nerfed

so what does someone do once their long beloved practiced main gets nerfed?

[olive sun]

depends if that nerf is big enough to put them to ''unplayable'' category

[mint mauve]

yoto hime is unplayable isnt she....

[olive sun]

in solo pretty much

[mint mauve]

who else do i unlock then ? for solo mostly, sometimes bloodbath and sometimes duos

[olive sun]

feria, temmy, justina, takeda, akos, zai, hadi, shayol

[mint mauve]

zai is good for solo??!

[olive sun]

she is

[mint mauve]

as for feria, shes the same as tianhai except can shoot

[olive sun]

she can heals while in V

[mint mauve]

thats just not fair..

some characters are left behind so much while others are brokenly good

[olive sun]

yeah yoto haven't been touched for like a year alr

and they keep releasing better characters

so

[mint mauve]

do we get 4 characters per year

or 5

[olive sun]

don't rmb

[mint mauve]

how many did we get this year

[olive sun]

shayol lyam kylin i think

plus some reworks

[mint mauve]

wait no tarka ji ?

[olive sun]

very hard to make him works

[mint mauve]

he can shoot fireballs from air

isnt that a huge

huge

[olive sun]

no one use that on solo

[mint mauve]

advantage

why

you can just burn your enemy

and shoot fireballs on air

they wont have chance to attack

sounds easy enough

[olive sun]

they can just dodge it though

[mint mauve]

one thing i learned while yoto ultimate

is that enemies keep running

so i attack a bit ahead of where they run

sometimes hit sometimes miss

so same thing should work on him

except he can do it faster than yoto

[olive sun]

higher lv players will just tap dodge your slashes while shooting back with ranged weapons

[mint mauve]

sob

wait am i considered high level

[olive sun]

idk, what do you think?

[mint mauve]

level 38 and bp level 34 and

is 38 high or low

or is it noob level

[olive sun]

the last one

[mint mauve]

Oh..

whats your level ?

[olive sun]

when i say level i mean the skill level not your account level

[mint mauve]

well

sometimes in ranked i die before i can react

like sometimes its players who have like 3000+ numbers below their name i think its achievements points

sometimes its like 200 ish

[olive sun]

that number indicated how long/how much they played

doesn't necessary related to skill level

[mint mauve]

the matching is so bad

like

my number is 75

and i get paired with

top 13 feria shen

top 75 justina gu

and stuff

so in ranked i dont even use my favorite weapon anymore

[olive sun]

it's not really the match making's fault, more of lacks of players issue

[mint mauve]

originally i wanted to main with a katana because of well anime, and after getting countered so much, now i switched to staff

i just charge with right click

90% of the time they cant counter

[olive sun]

well if it works for you

[mint mauve]

no no definitely not. they have 56k players. even games like rainbow six has less than this

out of those 56k

like 30k are on SEA.

[olive sun]

divided into like 5 or 6 servers

[mint mauve]

then again, its a chinese game

so us SEA players have more than all others combined

[olive sun]

CN got a separated server

[mint mauve]

honestly i just feel stuck and dont know how to improve, i die before i can react, always get countered, and i played other games like dmc and nier a lot, so im not used to counter much. so dont know how to improve honestly.

[olive sun]

do you like the game?

[mint mauve]

yeah

a lot actually

i dont like shooting games much, i prefer more of close combat style

[slate sierra]

based on reading the convo it sounds like you send a lot of blues but against better players that will get you killed a lot, especially if youre releasing 1.0s all the time

[olive sun]

then you can just play more, practice more and watch more guides

the depth of this game combat is insane

[slate sierra]

naraka is a massive mindgame, you want to bait enemies into making a mistake and then countering their mistake, so if you force a parry you can release after parry frames for a good chunk of dmg or put them into a combo to punish them

[mint mauve]

i watched the bai ze guides but they sound basic like really basic

which dont work in ranked

[olive sun]

youtube is the way

[mint mauve]

the thing that i hate about counter, is that it has a massive delay, like games like mgrr where the moment you click counter you have a counter frame but naraka has a 0.3 second ish delay for press till counter, which is a lot in battle

[mint mauve]

any video suggesstions ?

[olive sun]

i'd say check out PsyclopsKD

[mint mauve]

okay thank you

you tried so hard to help, i feel a little bad for annoying you

[olive sun]

np i'm free anyway

if i'm not lazy maybe i could get you into a custom room and show you some basic stuffs

but rn i don't want to open the game 😂

[slate sierra]

https://youtu.be/y59HE32pHqU?si=mjYwTCatszUF0hxN

penemue also has good videos to help

[slate sierra]

part of naraka is knowing these timings and keeping them in mind, some weapons also have faster parry animations than others. iirc longsword has quite a fast parry, idk if its the fastest in the game but its up there for sure

[mint mauve]

THANK YOU TWO

would you say i improved

bloodbath

[kind ginkgo]

Wp

[rich thistle]

which setup should I use for takeda?

[topaz cargo]

anyone got a good shayol wei glyph i can use?

[slender rover]

Glyph for zhang?

[rough sigil]

Hello, I was wondering do anyone have a character guide for Yoto Hime and any advice for someone like me who is getting back into the game

[kind ginkgo]

@topaz cargo @slender rover

Here you go 👍

[topaz cargo]

thank you

[slender rover]

Thank you

[kind ginkgo]

np

[slender rover]

cant see kylin there?

[kind ginkgo]

kylin works with the base set of ruens dw

[normal mica]

should i use v1 or v2 with kylin?

[olive sun]

both got pros and cons

[compact ledge]

v2 in team modes with a healer

in solos i can't say really cuz I didn't play much v1 but it does seem to be lacking range

[willow sparrow]

V2 has a higher damage combo potential. Though V1 is safer since hp is not consumed

The v2 charged hit > lined-up uncharged v2 hit > shadow hit from 1st v2 charged hit = 3 confirmed hits at least

Friend can pick it up from there. Or you can cont to try for another combo

[harsh ingot]

Hey Guys,how do you find Valda for solo Rank actually ?

[kind ginkgo]

She works 🤔👍

F3 v2

Not top meta, but viable 👍🤔

[rich thistle]

v1 and f3 for feria?

[kind ginkgo]

V3 👍

[glossy nimbus]

ok, somebody tell me how tf this takeda completely murdered me through a nearly full gold armor and hp with health souljades in one ult??

[kind ginkgo]

gold weapon

[chrome cliff]

takeda doesn't deal damage

it's the longsword of his teammate

the longsword deals like 1800 damage and the takeda ult like 800ish

you take another 100 damage from your recording software

[wraith cargo]

Why does Ziping get focused first in trios?

Most of the time I'm mainly trying to simply stay alive, have a good picture of the overall situation (I think I'm also struggling with that) like potential third parties and then supporting my team with F, V and helping to finish sb off or getting my mate out of a combo.

At least that's my ideal plan but reality is me running away from two ppl and using all stuff I have for myself

[kind ginkgo]

cuz you are the healer

healer dead = better chance of killing the rest of the team

and also u got no disengage

[wraith cargo]

makes sense, ty

but wouldn't it be faster to kill sb like Viper?

[kind ginkgo]

nop

not with a ziping around

also viper can silence, get dmg reduction by ult

[wraith cargo]

gotcha

[kind ginkgo]

ziping can only heal

and has no kind of disables

same goes for kurumi

[wraith cargo]

@kind ginkgo btw do you have any tips for keeping an overview of the whole fight?

[kind ginkgo]

like seeing everything or in general on how to play around with a ziping?

[wraith cargo]

knowing where my mates are, who they are fighting and 3rd parties

I get chased, run away and search high ground but till then I lost track of my mates position and condition (also they are sometimes in buildings, so out if view)

[kind ginkgo]

game sense you acquire with experience mostly; a good thing you can do tho is watching a nice video on how to play around with ziping, it has really nice tips

and most of the rest is comunication with the team

for the position of your teammates it's mostly experience, game awarness (knowing where you are), and watching the minimap 👍

[wraith cargo]

aight, thank you!

[kind ginkgo]

ill send you the zip guide video in a sec 👍 atm in the middle of a lost ark dungeon 😅 😆

[wraith cargo]

we need more trio ppl in our chamber

[kind ginkgo]

yepyep

[wraith cargo]

what lv are you on souleater?

[kind ginkgo]

31 i think?

[wraith cargo]

Also take your time, thanks a lot

[kind ginkgo]

atm i am working on my glavier

[wraith cargo]

[kind ginkgo]

(glavier i just took to 1100 equipment level, character is lv 51, nearly 52 👍

[kind ginkgo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRmjmZyIT6Y

here you go 👍

it's a bit outdated, but a lot of insanely useful materials

[wraith cargo]

[normal mica]

what combo should i learn for takeda? this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHAMVbn2yjA

is it updated?

[little cargo]

Ah yes, Tianhai the flying monk

[exotic marsh]

Heuheuheue

Imagine doing grabs from that height

💀

[little cargo]

Well, as you can see from my input, you cannot grab mid air

Tho the amount of giants on the tree will increase

[exotic marsh]

true

oh well tho

as long as yueshan can’t do that

We good

[little cargo]

He cannot chain together horizontal charge but he can still charge -> jump -> release -> jump

But out of it he can only air attack or F

[alpine grotto]

I've been working on mastering all characters and currently on Wuchen as my 9th. Love his new ult. I guess I can peek in here if I need it.

[dry fulcrum]

So it's been a good while since I touched this game, took a break after like the Nier event, and was wondering how all the characters are so far?

[kind ginkgo]

Depends, do you want to know the strongest one / meta or simply an overall situation? 🤔

[dry fulcrum]

I would like to know both sides, if that is ok

[kind ginkgo]

Sure, gimme a few mins 👍

[dry fulcrum]

[kind ginkgo]

atm strongest are: matari, hadi, lyam, kylin

for solos

trios i dont really knw 👍

and also a balancing patch just got released, so i can tell you better in a few more days probably

overall i would recommend to just play what you like; everything can work in the game 👍

[dry fulcrum]

Pocket sand man, yes

Thanks for the info

[wraith cargo]

What are other Position 3 characters besides Feria, Ziping and Kurumi?

[compact ledge]

Wuchen F1 V1

Hadi V1 in some cases as well

[wraith cargo]

Ty!

Are there team comps in which Ziping doesn't work as a support?

[chrome cliff]

ziping is always a support

but you can play her more frontliney than some other supports because her F has a free dodge and she doesn't have the responsibility to provide countercc

[wraith cargo]

Sry, I phrased it wrong. I meant wether there are team combinations which rely on a specific different support other than ziping or is ziping a character that fits into every team as a support?

[compact ledge]

I wouldn't pair ziping with stationairy characters like Tianhai, she benefits way more with chars that move around a sh*t ton, that's where she shines, she can keep people alive no matter where they are in the map, Kylin Matari Zai move around a ton for example

She fits in many teams but not all

[chrome cliff]

takeda zai or kylin are common teammates for ziping

and you put matari or temulch with her

regarding tianhai, you can run ziping justina tianhai or ziping temulch tianhai, but there are better options and kurumi is probably the more natural partner for tianhai

a character i really woulndn't pair ziping with is viper. it takes more than ziping to keep viper alive, and if ziping runs v1, it's better for her if fights take long (while viper wants fights to be short)

[wraith cargo]

Thanks a lot! That was really informational

[proven fulcrum]

what's the counter to wuchen's blade rain ultimate

ill be packing him up, he presses V, then presses V again and i just lose

[kind ginkgo]

Dodge 🤔👍

Tap dodge slecifically

[proven fulcrum]

WHAAAT

For real?

[kind ginkgo]

If you know it's coming it's pretty easy to dodge tbf

[kind ginkgo]

Yep 👍

[proven fulcrum]

thank you

[kind ginkgo]

Dodge the. Projectile he throws at you, it won't hit you but stay in the area it landed instead 👍

[proven fulcrum]

interesting

and when they do hit you?

[kind ginkgo]

Pray 🤔👍

Or if you are playing Shayol just ult 🤔👍

If Justina, press f 👍

(remember wuchen can throw a second one after the first finishes 👍)

[proven fulcrum]

you're great, thanks

[kind ginkgo]

Np 👍👍

[wraith cargo]

Is there any way to combo out of a Zai V2 focus atk? Either one

[native bane]

what V should i use on justina in duo?

[dawn bough]

Eat it, run, or use an ability

[wraith cargo]

I should pay attention on phrasing 😅. Is there a way for Zai after she hits her focus V2 to extend that combo? Question goes for charged focus and uncharged focus

[dawn bough]

o, well from a balancing perspective I am 80% sure that isn't possible

[wraith cargo]

yeah, I think after focus the enemy is free again

Perhaps there are some combos from a scale rush

[kind ginkgo]

It isn't possible to continue the combo, but generally it's also insanely hard to escape a zai that's already hitting you, especially if you are up close

So I can simply spam and you can hit them all you like while they try to run away pretty much 🤔👍

[wraith cargo]

It's not THAT easy

[kind ginkgo]

Isn't it? 🤔

(jokes aside try to just run up to them, start charging again, and you will stagger them anew 🤔👍. Use light attacks to stagger and close the distance when they try to run👍)

[little cargo]

When he using his V against, he has quite a long wind up animation in which you can react tap dodge to not get hit by it

[rich thistle]

for how long will these be available?

[near patrol]

Is Tessa good?

[proven fulcrum]

thank you for the advice, i did not know this

[olive sun]

mediocre

[near patrol]

y is she bad? Is her abilities just subpar to the others or is it just her numbers or smthn

[olive sun]

after several nerfs and with the release/rework of other heroes that make them strong, tessa just falls off

[orchid star]

Mediocre does not mean bad. She just isn't as broken as she used to be release. She's still good and viable. play her if you enjoy her

[near patrol]

Oki I see thank you!

[exotic marsh]

yeah she’s definitely still strong

She just can’t be uga buggaed like she used to

takes a bit more brain

[rich thistle]

?

[proven fulcrum]

I was using Matari ult (stealth) and someone kept using Matari's ult F backstab on me

How is that possible, I thought Matari's stealth negated targeting (grapple, etc)

[kind ginkgo]

depending on what you do, you are not always invisible 👍

[proven fulcrum]

Hmm such as?

[kind ginkgo]

focus attacks in v2; i reckon using f2 does not keep you invisible aswell 🤔

sry, focus does not cancel invisibility *

[proven fulcrum]

if I use f2, am I unable to do the teleport backstab?

also, what does 'green-eye mask' do since it doesnt seem to... work

[kind ginkgo]

?

wait

the prob is you not being able to teleport behind them, or them teleporting on you 🤔

[kind ginkgo]

u cant go behind them if you use v2

[proven fulcrum]

sorry, it's an unrelated question haha

[kind ginkgo]

it's specific to v1

only using f u can jump on them,, but it's specific range

[proven fulcrum]

but yeah, the issue was them being able to see me when i use V2

[kind ginkgo]

oh yeah, it's normal with some things

[proven fulcrum]

thanks blob

[kind ginkgo]

heal automatically your remains

only works if you still got teammates alive

[proven fulcrum]

ahhh, i get it

[kind ginkgo]

👍

[wraith cargo]

@worn vapor @silk kiln

[livid pelican]

who is better now kurumi or ziping?

[compact ledge]

Depends on the player

For keeping a team or duo alive Kurumi is better, but to support a good team while being an aggressive healer who can get away from a bind Ziping is your go to. So in a way Kurumi would be better since she's more versatile because she makes even weak teams stand out if the player knows how to play but Ziping is more of a 1v1 healer that provides little aid for teammates.

[kind ginkgo]

Both are good at doing different things 🤔

[proven fulcrum]

Blob, I feel like I'm at a disadvantage

My enemies open 2 stashes and start with gold armor and I just get annihilated

[kind ginkgo]

This is called being unlucky, not knowing best the stashes locations 🤔

And sometimes also choosing the bad drops spot 🤔👍

Also, with skill you can kill someone that has golden weapons or armor while having grey; it's just more difficult 👍

[proven fulcrum]

I countered him and he just used a golden ability to lolescape :/

I took him down from full golden shields too 25% hp, and I only had about 20% hp since he jumped me after a brawl

Then he revived his teammate with a revival charm and she came back with The Overcomer and a Polesword

[kind ginkgo]

so you could have ran away, or chased him before he revived his teammate technically 🤔

[proven fulcrum]

he killed me

then I got revived by my teammate and we find them again later in the match

[kind ginkgo]

Oh

Unlucky

[proven fulcrum]

What do you recommend I do when I'm getting staggered

[kind ginkgo]

combo break 🤔

[proven fulcrum]

that's a thing?

[kind ginkgo]

some skills that heroes have can be used under attack

they are called combo breakers because they interrupt combos

[proven fulcrum]

hm, weren't they meant to be adding a combo breaker button a year or two ago

[olive sun]

they did, it's called green focus
but it's only available in quick match

[proven fulcrum]

ah, okay

[left anchor]

Someone help for Kurumi glyph??? Like movement or something

[orchid star]

Pins

[fair cedar]

Do we have a site, like database, for characters' skills dmg amplifier etc...?

[long vapor]

anyone help me setting this is for all hero ?

[kind ginkgo]

Look in the pinned comments 👍👍

There is a nice glyphs guide

[kind condor]

which f v should i use for zipping yin trio rank 3k ish?

[lost dagger]

F1 v2 generally.

[livid pelican]

why no F2?

[compact ledge]

F2 can be very fine in Ranked but pro players in China use F1 since in Trios it is about winning the fight instead of running away on your own. But for ranked it will work as long as your teammate realizes they are immune to light attacks.

[livid pelican]

Okay thanks🫶🏻

[wraith cargo]

What position is Shayol Wei in Trios usually?

[kind ginkgo]

1 / 2 , depends on the comp

[bronze monolith]

is it ok to run F1 and V1 for viper?

i see most ppl running f2 V1

[kind ginkgo]

Yes u can 👍

F2 is overall stronger, but harder to play

[compact ledge]

F1 is not good value at all

play F3 with V2/V3 instead if you want something that is easy to use

or F2 if you play with V1

@bronze monolith

[compact ledge]

There are no real comps with Shayol atm. However I recommend using F2 and being 2nd Position, follow up on your frontline so you do lots of damage, don't forget high weapon rarity = more damage on F2.

[chrome cliff]

f1 v1 with lyam or zai and f1 v2 with takeda on the team

[wraith cargo]

why would you use v1 with lyam or zai? Or generally v1 in trios?

[indigo mulch]

🎉 | Ching-Szi leveled up!

[vernal ether]

can somebody help about yoto hime glyph build guide

[kind ginkgo]

Check the pinned comments, there is a nice guide made by penemue 👍👍

[chrome cliff]

sorry it should say kylin not liam
because v1 scales their lifedrain and zai / kylin are characters that take particularly much damage over time
they are more likely to die slowly than to get bursted in one hit, so v1 is better than v2 with them

v2 is arguably better with takeda because takeda is unlikely to die while his ult is up, but he can get exploded in 1 second when his ult is not up

although traditionally ziping ran v1 even with takeda. only after some time the chinese discovered that v2 is better with takeda

because v2 helps him when he is weak while v1 helps him when he is strong (not needed)

[wraith cargo]

thank you

[rough sigil]

Can someone recommend me a video on how to play kurumi and what type of play style she is 😭

[chrome cliff]

The Position 1 / 2 / 3 Model - Trio Guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ic5gwfexRX8

[rough sigil]

Can I ask you a question I’m just starting the game what do I look for when finding a main and how do I improve I seen you are like the guru of the game 😭

[native bane]

idk if its a thing to ask here but does anyone have advice to give in terms of justina against zai?

asking for justinas pov

[digital tangle]

Anyone got a good tarka glyph?

[kind ginkgo]

Finding a main is really based on your personal preferences for gameplay 🤔

Each hero has a different "role" and feel, and they all work

Some better than others, depending on the meta, but all of the are viable

Best hint here is to go in practice tool and simply try them, try to feel what you like the most overall 🤔👍

[kind ginkgo]

Generally against zai u want to run away until the ult finishes (30 sec), with Justina you can use your f to armor through a charge attack or to get out in case she hits you

Ult does not freeze her, unless she is just spamming attacks in ult state and not charging them 🤔👍

[kind ginkgo]

Look in the pinned comments, there is a nice tutorial by penemue on glyphs 👍👍; u generally want to go stamina and right side (dmg done) red tree 👍

[digital tangle]

Thx

[kind ginkgo]

Np 👍

[chrome cliff]

don't main a character, main a position

for improvement, start with 3bans, i have a video on that

[wraith cargo]

Hey @chrome cliff, as a position 3 main - what do you do in trios if you play with randoms and one of them already picks a position 3 character like Ziping? Do you play the missing position or pick your kurumi anyway?

(would be reversed for me, I'm a ziping main but you get the question)

[olive sun]

bruh, playing with random you couldn't even get them to not moving 400m away and you're still trying to apply the formation?

[kind ginkgo]

If you play with randoms you can't play with position🤔👍

Positions only work in a coordinated environment 👍

[wraith cargo]

well, I usually have two ppl running after the next best kill and I try to keep them alive as pos 3 😅

[olive sun]

the only thing you could do with random is being the last pick and just pick whoever that you think will be a good match with the other 2

don't try to apply the ''model'' or ''formation'' thingy, it's not worth it since you can't even be sure that they'll follow

most of the time they don't btw

[wraith cargo]

thank you

[olive sun]

you could judge base on many factors like crowd control, survivability, burst damages, tools to deal with some certain characters like temmy, viper, transformers... to make a decent choice of heroes

[wraith cargo]

might sound stupid but how should I play then? Until now I had the focus to stay alive and then support my team but if I don't play with position, what should I focus on?

[olive sun]

i mean if you're playing with random then there's not much you can do honestly, just pray that they know how to cooperate

like when you're viper v1, you linked your V onto 3 ppl but ur temmy just refuse to use his V

then there's not much you can do

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

[wraith cargo]

true that

[olive sun]

when in doubt, try to stay alive

[wraith cargo]

but if I play ziping - should I actively look to create openings or wait for my team?

[olive sun]

you shouldn't

she has no combo breaker and she works the best in the back line

[wraith cargo]

that's where I had unclarity, ty

[olive sun]

doesn't mean that you should NEVER go first, i mean you can just grapple the enemy so they couldn't run away, can just go in if the situation allows you to

but you don't go all in, if there's a chance of you getting blow up then keep your distance

you wait for your teammate to arrive and let them frontlining, then you do your jobs which is follow and cover their mistake

[chrome cliff]

just don't play with randoms unless your goal is to make friends

[rough sigil]

What’s 3bans I’m new to the game 😭

[olive sun]

no F, no V, no weapon swap

[wind jay]

@compact ledge

stop spreading misinformation

[compact ledge]

[wind jay]

?

[compact ledge]

what u want

[slim knot]

Akos hu any1 ?

[woven rune]

What's the best way to deal with Yoto Hime's ult? How much is her damage reduction when she uses it? I play Matari so I could in theory deal some damage but I used to always run away, but I'm wondering if I should try to finish her off instead

[compact ledge]

Only if she is very low, otherwise keep your distance and then finish her off when she comes out of her ult.

[compact ledge]

What do you need for akos

[kind ginkgo]

Just tap dodge patiently her ult hots

Hits*

They are very slow

[smoky turtle]

hey i am having problems landing tarakas elbows in his ult anyone have tips for it?

[compact ledge]

In a 1v1?

[loud walrus]

..

[smoky turtle]

yes

[lost dagger]

The elbow or the shift punch? You usually want to avoid using the falling elbow attack, it's kind of a meme ability. To hit the shift punch you need to try to interrupt your oponent with it while they are stuck in an animation, then you can go into a combo

[cunning vault]

anyone got a path for Tian

[smoky turtle]

this nunchuck guy was in blue focus i tried shift punch but didnt stagger him does the nunchuck horizontal also cancle shift punch?

or my punch just missed him?

[lost dagger]

It must have missed. Tarka punch has no problem interrupting focus normally

[fathom ember]

.

[olive sun]

how do you get purple focus pounces on Akos V?

[olive sun]

what path?
also what's Tian? Tianhai?

[cunning vault]

yeah

[olive sun]

by path you mean glyph or what

[cunning vault]

yeah sorry the glyph path

[fathom ember]

he mean tianhai potential in showdowns

[olive sun]

PVP glyph plan:
https://youtu.be/nnbxhDbvuNM
PVE (showdown) potential plan:
https://dark-zer0.github.io/Showdown/build.html?option=3
but showdown new season is coming in 4 days with brand new potential tree so the guide will be outdated soon, keep an eye on #👾┃showdown for builds update

[cunning vault]

thank you 🙂

[lost dagger]

Purple focus pounce - Jump once, land, horizontal
Gold focus pounce - Jump once, land, jump again, land, horizontal

[olive sun]

https://streamable.com/4o2l2g
so what's wrong with my input?

[lost dagger]

You need to attack from the ground after landing

[olive sun]

but isn't it attack from the ground make it a normal weapon attack?

[lost dagger]

The jump attack is a light attack. The pounce is grounded attack after jumping and landing

No after you jump and land he does a little sprint thing, attack during that to pounce

[olive sun]

oh i see

thanks

[lost dagger]

You can do it immediately from landing

Np

And 2 jumps will make it gold focus

They both can combo into uppercut

[olive sun]

[slow hull]

how to do Blessings quest in Kylin Zhang's Cultivation ?

[low raven]

I want to learn how to play with the girl wearing a red dress and a bandage over her eyes

[sly ember]

You’ll find yellow floating quest scrolls while in a match. Look for the one named Blessings (Hit a certain brass bell 3 times), accept it and then follow then waypoint!

[wraith cargo]

search for viper guide on youtube

https://youtu.be/N0g0VdneHcg?si=dVPxcdtD-M6uugHz

this might be helpful

glyphs are full green/red

and I think you can also do grapple f3

[olive sun]

https://tenor.com/view/gunshot-shooting-firing-gun-fire-guns-gif-5640798

[lost dagger]

Against hadi you can try to lead him into a tight space and get a focus attack on him or scale rush. Fistblades are so good against him since you can dodge his attack then immediately punish.
Against shayol you can tap dodge either of her ults, and her v1 can be jumped over, it has no verticality. She's also vulnerable to ranged shots, if you can parry her just get a few ranged shots on her and create space. If you can force her 3 shield procs and avoid the activations she is dead in the water

Also just double jump and maintain verticality to avoid her f2.

[thorn garnet]

5258000130171 my ID
Magyarok ha vannak jeloljetek baratnak🫶🏽

[solar anvil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfpyKm5y6Gc

anyone know if these still work^

[rough sigil]

I want to learn how to play shayol Wei she seems so fun any advice

[olive sun]

you can just go into practice to test them?

[olive sun]

really simple character, nothing much to say

[rough sigil]

She really that simple 😭?

[olive sun]

yeah

[rough sigil]

Is she good tho in all modes?

[olive sun]

i'd say she's ok

quite hard to kill

average damage output

[rough sigil]

😭 I’m a noob so that’s a good pro

I wonder is there a tier list for this game

[olive sun]

you don't really need a tierlist cuz you could play against any characters if you know what they could do

welp there still some characters stands above others but that doesn't mean that they're unkillable

[rough sigil]

Tessa is hard to deal with

Cause I have no knowledge of her

[olive sun]

get the knowledge of her then 😂

[rough sigil]

And whoever the male character is that get a def buff

[kind ginkgo]

If you play V2, try to catch the enemy in an animation, otherwise they will simply dodge the followup

[kind ginkgo]

Akos?

[solar anvil]

i did but can't get it to work

just trying to figure out if its patched out or if im just dropping it because skill issue

[rough sigil]

Yes him I feel useless when he pop his def buff

[rich thistle]

which abilities for ziping?

[kind ginkgo]

Just fight him as normal 🤔👍

He just takes less dmg

If u meant the ult, it's hard, but try to tap dodge the tiger pounce

[kind ginkgo]

Solos f1 v1, trios f2 V2 🤔👍

[rich thistle]

ty

[kind ginkgo]

Np

[rich thistle]

btw, whats up with the catch the gift channel?

if you dont mind me asking

[kind ginkgo]

Check in #📆┃on-going-event , there is a full explanation there 👍👍

[wraith cargo]

they don't work anymore

The only combos I got on Zai with her ult are toothpick, cV and then either j h or cV g charged focus. Second one is soft true but unless they have a dash in their ability, you can usually get them

Perhaps there might be combos with her ult activation but I didn't find any in particular

[slim knot]

who else hates Matari ? xD

[orchid star]

To play? I love her
To fight? I'd rather jump in acid

Then again I say that for most chars

[glossy nimbus]

Are there any updated resources on trios teams?

wondering where I can slot Lyam in, but most resources are old now

[wraith cargo]

Does the dmg of all damaging hero abilities scale with weapon rarity or is there flat dmg? Eg. does Zai F3 dmg scale like her ult or is it flat?

[livid pelican]

Shawol and zai scale idk about others

But u can try it on practice^^

[wraith cargo]

True that, thank you!

[slim knot]

I agree with "to fight" one xD

[proven fulcrum]

@kind ginkgo i got put into a game against this...

[kind ginkgo]

and how'd it go?

[proven fulcrum]

i never ended a game where i did 0 dmg before until today

[kind ginkgo]

there is always a first time 👍

[uneven apex]

which skill should i pick for matari? someone tell me pls 😄

[kind ginkgo]

F2 V2 🤔

if v2 is the one that lets you tp behind the target

[uneven apex]

Is it for solo only?

[uneven apex]

yup

[kind ginkgo]

for everything

f2 os the important part

is*

[uneven apex]

alright thanks a lot 😄

does v2 gives her stealth right away when she uses her ult?

[kind ginkgo]

both ults do 👍

[uneven apex]

ohhhh but just no team stealth for v2 then

i got it cheers 🙂

[kind ginkgo]

it does stealth the team 🤔

to some extent

[uneven apex]

really? how tho

[kind ginkgo]

?

it should give invisibility when you activate it 🤔

[uneven apex]

well i guess i just didn't notice haha

i'm kinda new to this game so

[kind ginkgo]

all good 👍

this is the right place to ask questions

[lost dagger]

No v2 doesn't stealth the team anymore

[kind ginkgo]

🤔

[olive sun]

tbf in team mode all of her F and V are solid

[lost dagger]

You had it right. V1 will stealth, reset the cds, and provide lifesteal for everyone. It is more of a support buff good for trios and v2 is great for solos and duos, but I'd usually run v1 in trios

I would say always run f2, v1 can be ran in trios but can't go wrong with v2. Some players prefer f1, so feel free to try it out and see if you prefer that, but f2 has a higher potential value overall

[olive sun]

more like you can't go wrong with v1

whole team stealth and heals based on dmg dealt

[lost dagger]

Worded it weirdly, i meant in general v2 is always good but v1 is great for trios which i said in the previous message

[rancid oracle]

Any shayol tips/guides anywhere? (I’m not asking for a coach)

[uneven apex]

Thank you everyone 🙂

[dawn bough]

is it valid to complain about valda v2 being too short when every other ult in solos being longer than hers? I ult after so many people just to be outlasted by kylin/akos/tarka/hadi ults, kinda rendering it useless with such a readable spear throw animation and 20s ult vs their 25-30

like I love water abilities and its tragic that I feel like I'm getting power crept by other kits because i want to stay on a character i like as a whole concept

[olive sun]

valda is indeed quite weak atm compare to other heroes yes

but i think her rework/adjustment is on the way

[empty swallow]

Yes

I think it would be much better if they removed hp shield from it and significantly increased duration so that you actually have time to mindgame with the spears instead of being forced to rush the throws due to not having enough time

[dawn bough]

atp its just lyam but also giving allowing to animation cancel out of spears would help

[rancid oracle]

Any shayol tips?

[olive sun]

• you can dash once before throwing her shield on V1
• V1 shield throwing gets affected by melee aim assist so it'll aim at whoever closest to you, but you can change that by holding forward button (default: W) and turn the camera to the direction you wanna throw the shield
• V1 shield explosion deals AOE damages to anyone that is close enough to the main target
• V1 shield explosion will not deal any damages if the target moved a certain distance before the explosion actually happens
• V2 teleport has a short invincible frames which can be used to be immune from effects such as tessa's enchanted and viper ning's stun if you time it right
• F2 startup frames are blue focus so it can be cancelled by weapon's blue focus attacks
• using F2 in the air will drop you to the ground
• during F2 gold focus charge you're immune to the effect of most of other F such as valda's bubble, akos F, tessa F...
• F2 got a known bug with impact point, sometime the hitbox won't register and you'll keep charging even you reached the target

[rancid oracle]

Thanks.

[kind ginkgo]

Where the V2 hints 🤔😂

[olive sun]

huh what hints? 🤔

[wraith cargo]

Which abilities for for Takeda in solos and in trios?

[kind ginkgo]

trios f1 v

ult depends on the comp u play

[wraith cargo]

[fiery yarrow]

hey guys what's your ult for Ziping for trios and solos V1 vs V1?

[kind ginkgo]

v2 generally 👍

since it gets a revive for each member of the team

[compact ledge]

V1 Solos and for Trios read this #🙎┃character-guides message

[compact ledge]

Solos V1 F3 and Trios V3 F1

[languid pilot]

Is wuchen good on solos ?

[vocal crystal]

-0-

[kind ginkgo]

Yes 👍

[proven fulcrum]

is there a way to do the plum castle puzzle without going underground

[kind ginkgo]

Having someone else in your team go underground 🤔😂

[proven fulcrum]

this team did the puzzle while i was down there

but they did it aboveground without having gone down there so that was sus

[kind ginkgo]

They had another circle prolly

It's nearly impossible to do the puzzle while not going underground

[proven fulcrum]

another circle?

[kind ginkgo]

U cannot one the directions

[proven fulcrum]

none of the stashes were looted

[kind ginkgo]

Going underground right behind you