🔱┃weapons-combat

[viscid kelp]

[meager trail]

💀

mf tell me he don't want to go 2x because his ocd irking him when 2 slots are empty

[viscid kelp]

Did you know there are special kits for that

That sell you 2 "dummy" RAM sticks, which have no function other than RGB

[meager trail]

[viscid kelp]

https://www.corsair.com/de/de/p/pc-components-accessories/cmwlekit2/vengeance-rgb-pro-light-enhancement-kit-aca-a-black-cmwlekit2

"Light enhancement kit" it's called for corsair

Altho I'm church of G.Skill

[meager trail]

lmao

[split spire]

6000 mhz ram 2x 16 gb 7800x3d 4070 super

[viscid kelp]

Alternatively be like me and buy an air cooler with a display (DeepCool has those) so it still looks fancy but is also so fat that you only see 1 ram stick anyway

[meager trail]

oh he got one

but just the feeling of knowing there's 2 empty slots is too much for him

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[meager trail]

hm fps u got in training room idling?

[viscid kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-try-not-to-laugh-speed-dont-laugh-gif-9393628858940137350

[split spire]

depends on background apps but usually 440ish

470ish

like that

[meager trail]

🤔

[split spire]

looking at ground its 500+ fps

can reach 600 even

[viscid kelp]

For many programs the additional IPC and clock of the 9800X3D isn't super relevant over the 7800X3D
So it really just comes down to the price difference

If they're 30bucks apart just get the 9800X3D

You're whaling out anyway

But in terms of real world performance, those two CPUs will barely differ in most cases

For Naraka the interesting part is the extra cache, and they both have the same amt

[split spire]

for me the diff was around $200 between the same pc on 9800x3d vs 7800x3d

xd

[viscid kelp]

Ye then latter is no brainer

[split spire]

yep

[meager trail]

it's like $100 diff in my place rn

[split spire]

depends on ur budget

if u feel the PC cost is a bit heavy then saving $100 can be nice

but if u feel its whatever then just get the better cpu

[tardy fable]

.

[meager trail]

@viscid kelp he's saying that he can't update his bios

like when it finish it said ''ready'' then turned off

but when the pc boost up again it's still the old version

[viscid kelp]

Does he actually know how to update a BIOS

Because as a Gigabyte user myself, I am beyond confident that in the bottom window it should provide information about the new BIOS that is about to be flashed

[viscid kelp]

Ah
Yeah that's right
And after waiting for it to finish, checking the BIOS version it still says it's the old ver?

[meager trail]

yep

[viscid kelp]

[meager trail]

also is this the pbo? why does it looks like this lmfao

[viscid kelp]

Unluckers, he could try Q-flash or smth of the sort

But I never tried that sort of thing

[viscid kelp]

Nah that's just a PBO related setting for the maximum temp at which the CPU throttles

PBO is kinda like an algorithm that pushes the CPU until a specific limit is hit
Be it voltage, amperage, power or w/e

[meager trail]

i see

he's saying he couldn't find where to enable the pbo though

[viscid kelp]

Should be somewhere under AMD Overclocking

[meager trail]

😂 he got scared when the user agreement pops up

[viscid kelp]

[meager trail]

smth smth about we won't be responsible if you fd up ur pc

[viscid kelp]

Ye I mean makes sense
Imagine you have a motor that due to specific components can only handle 280km/h reliably, but you're allowed to unlock it to 300km/h
Naturally the manufacturer, if they allow you to unlock it, will tell you "Not our fault if it breaks"

[meager trail]

this should be fine yeah?

[trim sail]

just set PBO to motherboard limits, so you don't need to put any values yourself

[viscid kelp]

Increasing PBO limits should never negatively affect stability
CO on the other hand can

[meager trail]

well as long as his pc doesn't explode on the spot it's fine ig

so weird that he couldn't update the bios

[meager trail]

@viscid kelp so far his fps increased from 36x to 42x in training room idling
all he did is just disable amd v and enable pbo

• his card still run on pcie x8
• still running 4x16 ram
• bios still refusing to update
• not touching curve optimizer yet

🥹 thank you sir

[viscid kelp]

AMD-V is a performance hog, it's one of the biggest improvements in my experience

[dim abyss]

360 fps in training?

something is def wrong

i play on 3440x1440p on 4070 ti

with dlss 40% res scaling

and i have 400+ in training

9800x3d

does it say he's cpu or gpu limited?

if i totally remove gpu limit i go over 500 fps, around 600

as in, run the game at super mario resolution

and in real match, my fps hovers 250-300 depending on the scenario

in average fight 220-250

like duos and trios

and i run everything lowest except textures and effects high

[rich talon]

Huh

How?

When I attack the bot it goes below 340 fps real quick. And idk after the last patch I get sometimes 150 frames online max.

[dim abyss]

i have good cpu

naraka is cpu game

[rich talon]

Yeah same lol

9800x3d and a 4090

[dim abyss]

no idea about that

[rich talon]

Ok I reinstalled Windows yesterday. Maybe it helped a bit.

Need to give it a try today

[undone anchor]

Those numbers are insane NGL. 🤔😂😂

[split spire]

kinda weird tbh

mine is constantly above 300

only in heavy fights does it drop below that

like 3+ teams in the same area ulting

if two trio teams im usually low 300s

if solos im usually high 300s low 400s

and my system is supposedly worse than urs

in lobby

[dim abyss]

maybe we can compare settings and stuff later

u said u 4070 super right

should be about similar to 4070 ti

i'm 6000mhz ram

but no oc on anything

[rich talon]

damn in the Pre Lobby i get 250 on a good day

[split spire]

Same

I’m just low everything and DLSS balanced

1440p

[dim abyss]

maybe its my res

im 3440x1440p

[undone anchor]

Hello, 3 to 45 FPS here 👀😂😂

[rich talon]

[split spire]

Has to be this

[dim abyss]

when i'm on my 1080p monitor

i am sitting at 300+ in fights

so likely

if i had a 5090 it'd be solved in other words lol

[carmine wren]

https://medal.tv/games/naraka-bladepoint/clips/luXDiNzuji9jDbrLt

[summer basin]

spam để làm nhiệm vụ, xin lỗi vì đã làm phiền

[undone anchor]

<@&1268843709106229278>

[robust pendant]

[spice sinew]

not again

[pearl stump]

It’s from hours ago

He already got timed out and fulfilled that

“spam for quests, sorry for bothering”

[pearl stump]

Vui lòng không spam trong các kênh vì điều này vi phạm quy định của máy chủ.

Bạn có thể sử dụng kênh này: #🤖┃bot-commands

[undone anchor]

Mb, only saw it now. Had lesson before 😅

[pearl stump]

Nono, you’re good

Hope you’re having a beautiful day

[undone anchor]

It's going well

Hopefully you have a fantastic one aswell

[buoyant bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-satoru-gojo-ohio-gif-27179630

[undone anchor]

Th colour is correct 🤔😂

[stray mason]

[meager trail]

@viscid kelp you got any idea about the reason for this phenomenon? my character just exit the running state on their own despite i'm still holding W the whole time, and most of the time this happen they also hold the weapon in a weird way

[meager trail]

i also saw this happens on CN streamers gameplay so it's definitely not just me or my hardware issue

but i encountered it very frequently

[viscid kelp]

I would generally advise not to assume hardware issues right off the bat

Even with all of Naraka's weirdness

[meager trail]

i mean last time i posted this ppl tell me to check my keyboard

[viscid kelp]

In this game 99% of people need to check their brain

[meager trail]

like there isn't ANY transistion between the sprinting and slow run state, if i let go of my w key or i pressed jump crouch or dash or anything there would be an animation

but there isn't

[viscid kelp]

I think this has to do with weapon sheathing (I don't mean switching to unarmed here) being a bit weird

Often times your character can appear as though they're not holding their weapon despite the game considering them in a state of holding their weapon

You can see this sort of thing happening to you always comes in tandem with your character performing a sheathing animation despite their weapon already being sheathed

This can look really funny, for example sometimes you will just A-pose with dualies in your hands cuz the game forgot you're actually holding a weapon

[meager trail]

yeah i mean that's also what i thought but you got any idea about how or why it happens? and what can i do to reduce the rate of it happening?

[viscid kelp]

What causes this? Beats me, never affected me enough to look into it

[meager trail]

cuz it's driving me insane

like i'm holding and cancel to run away from 3 ppl light attack spamming me then suddenly my character just decide that it'll walk instead

[viscid kelp]

I think blue focus dash cancel reduces the likelihood of it happening
Both times you did smth->hold dodge->walk
But I assume if you did smth->hold dodge->rmb/lmb (hold) you'd avoid it

[meager trail]

but in the inor part i just hold blue > hold dodge (running) > keep holding w > looting

and it happens

so with matari it happens when i opened the map
with inor it happens when i loot

so additional command caused this?

[viscid kelp]

I doubt it, but I'm not sure
The most reasonable thing to assume imo is that the game considers you in a specific state before sheathing your weapon, and that some actions can effectively cancel that state and others can't

Generally I slide-hop a lot

So maybe that's one general way to avoid it

[meager trail]

i also do it but welp

thanks

guess i'll make a feedback thread

slide jump 🙂

[viscid kelp]

That was a rather long hop but realistically that hypothetical remedy is out the window too

Maybe attacking instead of just focus dashing helps, it's p optimal on many weapons too

But atp it's grasping at straws

If you figure something out, lemme know
I'll keep it in the back of my mind in case I play/watch a bit of Naraka again

[meager trail]

idek anymore it happens so frequent to the point i literally got to live with it

like many times every matches

the game somehow just can't decide if my character should be sprinting or running

[meager trail]

[stray mason]

That's not hack is it?

[meager trail]

idk anymore

he just teleported away

[viscid kelp]

That's just desync up the butt

What I assume happened is that on their and the server's end your jlmb floated them slightly differently for some funny reason, knocking them past the tree
And their position only got updated when the server validated their wakeup roll input and sent the information to your client that "well akshually they're all the way over in that snow pit"

[stray mason]

But can this could be missunderstood for devs as hacking?

[stray mason]

It makes sense, but could be reported and banned as a hack or not?

[viscid kelp]

I'm fairly confident that it wouldn't lead to a ban
On the server's end that Kylin likely didn't perform any suspicious movement, and that's most likely what the devs would look at

[meager trail]

that would explain why my wuchen teammate ps horizontal blue 3rd attack missed

cuz the kylin is just, not there

according to server

[viscid kelp]

Yee

[restive oar]

Man they don't even ban real microers

[stray mason]

Well it's a good point

[split spire]

He got robbed with the first hit actually xd

Bro just unlucky

Tbh u both are

Cuz a sudden position shift is also bad

[meager trail]

tbh he kinda trolled there too lol

should've just release ps 1st stage vertical blue

or even a ps light

so he won't displace the kylin

[bold creek]

👍

[silent hamlet]

Fff

[lusty beacon]

best

[rustic moss]

hi

[pallid rune]

nice one!!

[bold creek]

tyy

[jaunty canyon]

yo guys are there any "bad" golden souljades? or anything that is not rly worth the "gold" standard? just curious coz i see some gameplay of chinese players deliberately ignoring some gold souljades but i cant tell what souljade it is

[astral tinsel]

Depends on the context probably

Like if you've got a corresponding weapon for a golden jade or not

For instance I like the overcomer for the polesword because it's fun. But if I don't have space and I'm don't have a polesword I'll not take it

And some alter quick dashes with a +atk or def stat which probably aren't as useful for them

I think

[haughty frigate]

How is everyone feeling about the whipsword. It seems strong in trios, in my opinion.

[naive plaza]

Repair roll is gold but I see a lot of people pass over it for other jades as well. If it’s a gold ranged jade I see a lot of people ignore those as they either don’t have the ranged weapon or don’t care to play ranged much.

(Meteor, Deto rounds, armor pierce, burst arrow)

[jade gull]

Imo they are just very niche, ranged has never really been a focus in naraka, most people switch to ranged for chip damage or to finish a kill

Now that you’ve mentioned it I don’t think I’ve seen a burst arrow jade in awhile

[naive plaza]

Yeah the most common ranged jades I see people actually bother to keep is Meteor in trios or Armor Pierce for musket enjoyers

[jade gull]

I gotta say though hitting a headshot with max ATK and Jug with gold musket with AP and just exploding someone’s health.

Chefs kiss 💋

[naive plaza]

I had a gold musket w slowshot recently and headshot someone for like 950 😂 they were probably pissed

[undone anchor]

It is pretty strong indeed, yeah 👍

[lusty cosmos]

Dojo signups are open for saturday #🏋┃dojo-coaching

[bold creek]

strong but good

[wise coral]

[sly ore]

octa slash, uni slash
dragonlike
earthshaker
cloud weaver
new nunchuck jade
new heng jade based on first impressions
new gs jade based on first impressions
probably even prides fall

it's likely that I forgot a few

these jades aren't horrible but you could probably make most of them purple and noone would complain

[cobalt citrus]

🫡 cool

[left pasture]

should i wake up using blue focus or shift or use WASD ?

[meager trail]

https://youtu.be/yh2Z0kWTvrI

[left pasture]

thank

[slim nymph]

new nunchuck one not too bad, the new heng one? the crouch blue attacks? i like it, rest i kinda agree to an extent

[slim nymph]

yeah true, didnt see this til after

[astral tinsel]

Gold Nunchuck jade is pretty fun tho

[rigid gazelle]

is cloud weaver bad?

[lusty cosmos]

No it's quite good

[rigid gazelle]

Any guides on using it?

i always get countered when i use that move

;-;

[lusty cosmos]

Just tap dodge while holding horizontal charge and release. You can over hold it for a long time

[sly ore]

it's pretty bad compared to the good gold jades

i'd rather have sap in 1 game than cloud weaver in 5

[untold swallow]

hi guys i just picked up liam lyu. anything important i should know or how do i do some combos on him?

[undone anchor]

So, for combos you have ult and f2 generally. Depending on which one you play there are different possibilities

F2 and v1 reset combo meter on hit, meaning you can just restart a combo from 0 . V2 (pokeball) is a bit more tricky in some ways

[amber forge]

Does anyone know how to focus combo in air... Like when u are falling how to get rmb to focus and not do slam... I thought it was hold dodge rmb but apparently not

[meager trail]

well it is mid air hold dodge into horizontal/vertical hold

[undone anchor]

As Tabbie said, when u dash in the air, you can initiate a focus charge by holding attack nearly simultaneously as the dash input👍

Dashing can be done after an attack in the air usually, or a swap

(important to notice, each weapon has different timings, slightly different, but noticeable. This is true if you try to initiate a dash after a scale rush)

[untold swallow]

thanks i will try

yesterday was my first time playing him he looks like amazing hero

[lusty beacon]

w

[undone anchor]

He is indeed

(definitely not biased opinion. He's definitely not one of my mains 👀😂)

[sly ore]

parry guide is done https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCgR8hcB0sw

[languid warren]

henlo guys, does anyone have best gylps build for valda cui?

[teal belfry]

Look at pinned comments. There is a video

[rustic moss]

hihi

[acoustic grotto]

schoop

[bold creek]

awesome

[sharp atlas]

idk where to ask that so im asking here

why do sometimes when i just want to sprint, my character only rolls, while i press w at the same time

which make me spend my stamina for nothing

[wary escarp]

Roll usually happen while you are sprinting or after you already dodge once before

[polar zodiac]

So I have a friend that got band a month ago and some one told him that they are going to take the band in 12/05 and he can’t not play what can he do so some one thinks that band out

[cloud galleon]

My account was blocked, can you help me? My Sting account was blocked on December 5th, but it was unblocked. When I tried to log in here to play, I couldn't. Can someone help me? It says my account is blocked.

[worn thunder]

hi

[undone anchor]

Woahh

[undone anchor]

Wrong channel. U can try contacting a moderator about this, but it won't do much. Best course of action is taking a ticket in #🆘┃official-support

[undone anchor]

Not sure I follow , but if it's ban you are asking about, #🆘┃official-support is the way to go

[lusty beacon]

wow

[queen hinge]

Can you do extended combos on controller (Xbox) I keep seeing it happen against PC players but it literally won't let me do anything else except the standard 3 hit combo (light light heavy)

[dim abyss]

@grizzled elbow is one of the best players I know on EU and he's a playstation player, maybe he can help you

[queen hinge]

That would be appreciated, I'm not sure if it's a controller setting thing, or if it's only possible on PC due to use of keyboard which allows further button mapping

[lusty cosmos]

Yes. You can do the majority of the combos on console

There are some that are fps or ping dependent. But most are doable

You can check the pinned messages for tako's video with basic combos for each weapon

[queen hinge]

Thank you 🙏

[ivory yoke]

How can i make combos on console

[stray mason]

Just search on youtube, there is plenty of videos...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfxp8zW3_eU&t=97s

[lusty cosmos]

check pinned for takao's video. I said it literally right above u, someone was asking the same thing

[untold swallow]

hello, i just learned this after few hours of gameplay, im pretty new in the game (i have been playing for 7 weeks). is this better than the infinity version one of doing only uppercuts? or is it worse

https://youtu.be/SfjVXF1rzRE?si=Dx2Z7vIIY0DxMjVV

[long tulip]

the "swap" combo with dual halberds katana is vertical with dh crouch horizontal with katana ?

[wary escarp]

Somewhat better to save stamina but terrain depended and has more room for error

But for Tarka, in the end of the day if they are dead after your combo then it is what it is

[untold swallow]

Hmm my biggest problem is kinda getting into the stagger combo, otherwise i can do the infinity mostly

[wary escarp]

You can do dash -> fist -> horizontal -> uppercut when you are in Tarka's V

However if you struggle with neutral, I suggest you focus on that more than combo

[untold swallow]

Oh yeah i also play lyam

i did the bow combo with ball

but it was not 5 headshots just 4

that combo seems op in solos

[lusty cosmos]

Dojo signups are open #🏋┃dojo-coaching sign up for free coaching

[frigid minnow]

so how are the guns? is it just a massive skill issue?

[meager trail]

wdym

[frigid minnow]

i figured it out

[untold swallow]

been trying to learn this with the bow

seems very hard

[pearl stump]

[untold swallow]

[stray mason]

[untold swallow]

[cold orbit]

Hello, how can I consistently jump then switch weapon to hold blue mid air more consistently? Every time I do it, it always input a light attach instead even tho I held LMB

[undone anchor]

Don't let go of the mouse button. If it does a light attack you are either slow on your inputs (most likely the case), or you click instead of holding.

That tech requires precision, as most things in naraka, hence the need for a lot of practice

[untold swallow]

learning new things (170 hours in naraka right now)

[untold swallow]

insane

[dim abyss]

wow 170 already

you are putting in work

[untold swallow]

trying to

a lot of the hours are afk though

learned how to sheath weapon too but the timimg feels weird

[wide fjord]

Uhh guys how do some people just keep up with thier attacks? Like they would keep you staggered and then go on with insane combos, I too have lowkey done it but some people go beyond that

Specially with flying knives and fistblades

[meager trail]

the two melee weapons that are infamous for ridiculous amount of staggers and untrues

[wary escarp]

at the same time has truck load of combos that are fps depended

[devout maple]

HI

[ebon stone]

hello

[kindred mirage]

anyone has a decent longsword combo

[lusty cosmos]

Have you seen the pinned video by takao? Has basic combos for each weapon

[kindred mirage]

i will try , thank uu

[supple flume]

Advanced flying knife and fist blade combos?

Idrk what to do with them once I stagger

It's kinda js like.. gambling on releasing focus or not xd

[lusty cosmos]

Check pinned

[untold swallow]

can someone please rate my gameplay? its really hard for me to get an opinion because i only played the game for 8 weeks or so. i dont know that much
(could have about 150 hours)

[wary escarp]

tbh, the only one that say something about your in match gameplay is the second clip, in which I notice that you and your teammate are being seperated pretty far and that would be a really big problem later on. Outside of that the first and fourth clip are just standard 1v1 gameplay, you did some good catch against people tap dodging, you done well while being pressure, not just pressing button out of panic, however I noticed you release a lot of 1.0, with Heng feint attack it is no problem but with a lot of other weapon that can be called out.

[cold orbit]

While you have learned advanced techs, I noticed right away that you still lack game sense in some areas such as gaining priority in a 1v1. I noticed a pattern that you often rushed to hit first, giving the opponent a chance to gain priority. Tbf, game sense comes with experience, so I would recommend you grind rank until you find it impossible to win a match then you’ll learn something new, and brush up on your team work skill. Also, you could practice dodging in a less predictable way. As you rank up, you’ll come to realize that dodging a hit is often better than countering it

[untold swallow]

oh yeah many people told me i should be dodging more, well it feels quite hard i played only a bit so yeah

[bold creek]

caroussel + extension with the new jade

idk if that was posted already

[halcyon sky]

anyone got a good 211 guide? I did understand how to sheath and unsheath my weapon but I do not understand why do I need to tap dodge backwards after switching back to my weapon

[cold orbit]

https://youtu.be/c-LgfwQWfO4?si=pi7D_Jvk08h6g3XN

If you have any questions, lmk. The trick here is to not dodge too quickly but a bit late

[cold orbit]

Guys, I need help with neutral. When you’re high rank, it’s significantly harder to parry bait so you’ll be more reliant on dodging but my fps is 50-80 so I just guess.

People releases blue way too much, and it’s becoming hard to predict when they’ll do it. No one release 1.0 anymore and my reaction time isn’t that good. I can’t parry to save my life, so is there a way to get past this roadblock?

[lusty cosmos]

Try to control the pace of the fight and slow it down. Use spacing to not be forced into awkward situations like that, and beat your oponent to the chase by holding blue before them.
If you are getting caught on your dodges make sure you are tap dodging when appropriate and hold dodging when you need a faster dodge. Don't cut your dodges early by pre inputting an attack during them, let the full dodge play out otherwise you will get rubberbanded more often. If you can dodge a focus attack, depending on the attack, you can usually go in to punish with either a parry or light attack

[unreal wyvern]

if u are 50-80 fps its just gg, its completely unplayable

[cold orbit]

In this case, how can I become more aggressive? I started spacing more to not be forced into a focus battle, but often they’d run away or it becomes a waiting game of who’ll chase first…

[cold orbit]

[lusty cosmos]

Use ranged if they are keeping their distance. Bait people into attacking and then punish them by either focus armoring through the hit or hold dodging, then attack during their recovery frames.

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBc6fPxh5oYzW0l23lsEERuwz4nJ1W88v&si=rwdvcOf8KOPuPIph

[cold orbit]

TyTy, that’s a good tip. I’ll carry range from now on instead of duel wielding

[supple flume]

tips for dual blades ? im losing my mind in weaponjs clash against these asuras

[cold orbit]

For combos, don’t press any direction keys when you hold LMB. A slight blue then gain priority. Second tip would just be to dodge their first hit if they release blue then punish or just bait them into parrying by holding blue longer

[undone crater]

Any idea why the ending of this combo always fails for me? I have seen many others pull this off. 🙂

[meager trail]

Your grapple is slow

[undone crater]

Any idea how could I make it faster more consistently?

[lusty cosmos]

Set your grapple mode to switch, release the grapple the moment your uppercut connects, you can click q after inputting uppercut then click just as your weapon hits the enemy. It cancels the uppercut animation and then immediately charge a focus

[undone crater]

Thank you for your reply! But I cannot find the ''grapple mode''.

[lusty cosmos]

second option

[meager trail]

Press grapple as soon as your uppercut hits the target, dont wait until they got knocked airbone

After seeing grapple animation played, immediately hold focus

[undone crater]

Thank you so much! I have gotten that basic combo succefully now many times in a row! Any idea how to avoid sometimes my character now rolls after grapple, it is rare but it messes it up?

[meager trail]

Dont hold W

[echo river]

how do people do the walking dodge into a full on sprint with the aura? i can seem to figure it out myself.

[lusty cosmos]

its a glyph

last purple one right side

[daring finch]

Can anyone teach me juggling katana combo

pls

[cold orbit]

What kind

The one with multiple uppercuts without grapple requires 300+ fps

[wise coral]

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[tender sigil]

Hi, I've been playing for almost a month and I would like if possible some tips on how to improve on combat as I struggle with actual players and as I'm way too on the offense I tend to be too predictable with my attacks as well as struggle to dodge attacks

[lusty cosmos]

You can check the pinned messages in this channel and also #🙎┃character-guides for some useful resources. I can link a playlist i put together with some helpful guides on yt. I also offer a free coaching event every week in #🏋┃dojo-coaching

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBc6fPxh5oYzW0l23lsEERuwz4nJ1W88v&si=hXDzYUGEVcioW8XI

[untold swallow]

my first sheath uppercut reset

[twilit vine]

Nice

[untold swallow]

a combo off it

paired with 211

[cold orbit]

Yo bro, any tips on how to do this? After I 211, I often hit them too far to correctly do the vertical again

[untold swallow]

you need to hold w most of the time and i think rmb timing is not good if you throw them too far

also depends if you do it iinfront of a wall or not

[cold orbit]

I figured. When exactly should you hit? Walk me through

[untold swallow]

you kinda need a precast timing before you fall on the ground

but not too early otherwise u hit from air

[cold orbit]

So basically once you land, you immediately start the chain

[untold swallow]

you need to RMB little before u fall

otherwsie its too late and he falls on ground ig or thats what happens mostly

without walls you also need to time W

if you time too early or too late you might just miss him or he might fly far or he will fall on ground

[cold orbit]

Timing is a bit difficult since I have low fps, but I pulled it off once but Idk how to replicate it so Ik it’s possible

[untold swallow]

ur doing it without wall?

[cold orbit]

No wall

[untold swallow]

then when you hear sound of uppercut slashing of the sword

start holding w

and before u fall

precast bit early RMB

then left right

and done

[cold orbit]

K that’s better, I’ll try that asap

Tyty

[untold swallow]

have to get used to it

[cold orbit]

Takes practice tbh

[untold swallow]

fps matters too i had less before it was harder

[cold orbit]

Can’t blame on low fps Gotta try my best lol

[untold swallow]

i mean i didnt practice it a lot xD

i learned it not so long time ago too

[cold orbit]

I hate it cause I’ve learned the 211 a long time ago

but was never able to do what u did consistently

[untold swallow]

you can kinda pair it with nice things

the one with grapple looks nice

good damage

[cold orbit]

Yeah, usually with LS

Grapple into another vert then the 211

[untold swallow]

i learned it like a month ago or even less xd

[cold orbit]

Mine was a long time ago xD

I rarely use the grapple combo now since I’m so used to it

[untold swallow]

im still figuring out things

im new in the game so ye

[cold orbit]

You’ll do great nwww

[untold swallow]

hopefully

[cold orbit]

If u keep doing it, it’ll become natural

[untold swallow]

yeye

[cold orbit]

[untold swallow]

i mean ive done some things already but i have a lot of to work on

i cant learn everything in just 2 months of playing

game is mechanically demanding

and hard to understand

[cold orbit]

U can learn advance techs in a short time, but experience carries most of the time

[cold orbit]

Tbh, when you do lots of customs, you’ll realize that who ever controls the pace usually wins

[untold swallow]

the only thing i hate about this game that some rly nice things are not doable with certain fps or ping

that distracts me too much

[cold orbit]

Yeah, I don’t like that we’re handicapped by FPS

[untold swallow]

i dont think they will ever change it

:/

[cold orbit]

Ik it’s a big advantage in pvp games but this game honestly takes the cake

too high of an advantage for high fps players

Atp, I just buy moonbanes and hope for the best

[untold swallow]

extended it a little

[viral ingot]

hey is there any up to date spear and staff guide ?

the most recent one i can find is 1 year ago

idk if a lot of things have changed since then ?

[cold orbit]

Nothing much tbh

Advance techs are still used from back then, so u good

[vestal mason]

Is it possible to 211 on controller

[untold swallow]

i think so it should not change the game mechanics

[vestal mason]

the problem is there is no sheath button so it makes it quite difficult to do so

so on my grapple combos when i hit the other player they dont get lifted much higher and i have trouble extending from there any tips im on controller i typically just let go of left stick after the grapple

[untold swallow]

You dont need sheath for basic 211

[cold orbit]

Sheath makes it easier, however, there’s another mapping technique u could do on controller

It requires emote slot or gesture slot, I’m not sure

[untold swallow]

I do it without sheath like 70% of the time

or 80%

[south jungle]

is this dual blades combo a 0.9?

i've been trying for days and somehow the practice bot always dodges, sometimes he gets hit by tail end of it. but i've never been able to hit the bot with the whole focus attack

[kindred sable]

the bots have perfect dodges from what i know , they can get out of that immediately ... but for general players , the 0.9 can be gone better at the corners of the structure , as its hidden , and you can capitalize on the damage

[meager trail]

what are you even talking about?

[meager trail]

technically speaking there isn't anything called a ''0.9 blue'', a blue is always a 1.0 at its fastest (you hold and you reached 1st stage then you release, not 0.anything, since a ''0.9'' itself means EARLIER than 1st stage, which will results in a light attack, not a blue attack), using the term ''0.9 blue'' could causes unecessary confusion
db vertical blue after grapple got some hitbox/direction issue which you could fix by holding A/D when release
when i don't hold A or D it still hits but it knocks target to other direction instead of infront of me
when i hold A it knocks target straight forward
if you can't hit the whole blue attack it's either ur inputs are wrong/ur fps is too low/ur ping is too high

[viscid kelp]

using the term ''0.9 blue'' could causes unecessary confusion

Unfortunately some influential community members insist on coining their own, often redundant terminology

[south jungle]

so is the dual blades combo blue attack a 1.0?

[meager trail]

oh shoot db dh toothpick is real now

no more db kata combo?

[unreal wyvern]

im not sure based on this wording

i think its mostly the repair cancer in air fix

[meager trail]

welp

gotta wait for offical patch note then

[unreal wyvern]

2. Dual Wielding

3. Slightly increased the stun duration when dual-wielding and dual-halberd dash attacks hit enemies.

i made better translation

seems they just made DB toothpick true combo

same as katana

u can do lmb dash lmb uppercut

[viscid kelp]

Isn't that what Tabbie said

[unreal wyvern]

which is nice

o

yeah i guess

[viscid kelp]

[unreal wyvern]

the word shoot confused me

i thought he meant the repair exploit with shooting

[viscid kelp]

And yeah other thing is prob no more repair double dodging
Which I think is a weird decision cuz while it builds distance faster than anything else, it also tanks stam to the ground
Maybe a bigger issue since perfect dodge glyph

[unreal wyvern]

tbh this new glyph page is just atrocious

the old page was way better

II. Combat Adjustments

1. Slightly delayed the timing for interrupting ranged weapon repairs using jump, crouch, dodge, or weapon switching.

2. Successfully executing a slash grants 70% damage reduction.

[viscid kelp]

That 2nd thing sounds great with desync

No idea what executing a slash means

[meager trail]

it is parry

the only gold focus that doesn't have a dmg reduction til now

[viscid kelp]

Oh yeah that is gonna be fire with client/server side validation

Btw you do have damage reduction during the attack, just not during the parry stance

which is even more pepega

[kindred sable]

hey ,understandable on terminology, ill not repeat the misinformation

[meager trail]

nah the translation is wrong, the cn text is 振刀成功后拥有百分之70的减伤 which is just ''succesful parry grants 70% dmg reduction''

[viscid kelp]

No you currently have those 70% during the repost

Just not during the gold state upon a successful parry

And now they wanna add it to the parry stance too

[meager trail]

oh

didn't know that you got dmg reduction during performing parry counter attack

[viscid kelp]

Ye it's very arbitrary

Them changing it now is kinda how you'd expect it to be

[calm dirge]

is twinshot good??

[unreal wyvern]

its so so

it reduces shot dmg by 30%

its 6% dmg reduction though

so good for stats

it also eats ammo like crazy

if u have repair roll and a bunch of repair kits can be useful i guess

if u land both shots it will result in 40% extra dmg

i would not use it with rupture though

twinshot is rly good in rift though

[calm dirge]

what is optimal 6-jade setup?

let's assume all blue

[unreal wyvern]

in terms of raw mathematical value 24% dmg reduction 24% health

unless u have massive healing output - in that case 24% dmg reduction 8% attack

situation can potentially change depending on hero or comp

but in raw power DR/hp is strongest

[calm dirge]

thanks!

[calm dirge]

is it possible to land 3 headshots with a bow on a knocked down enemy?

bot always rolls

[unreal wyvern]

i think historically it was possible

at least on human

but if its still possible, idk

[calm dirge]

horizontal - horizontal - crouch vertical - air horizontal combo with heng sword doesn't hit 2 times with air horizontal, unless done directly from the front of enemy facing, or like a pixel above the ground

is there a better way to do this?

and why does it work properly only from front?

[viscid kelp]

The main trick is to hold W during the uppercut motion. It allows you to both lose collision with the airborne target and move in front of them so the aerial horizontal doesn't send them too far from you
But in my experience you also want to do some light camera manipulation while holding W, in particular move your camera to the right for the second hit of the first aerial horizontal

Alternatively just use a grapple bump to have a much easier life

[calm dirge]

thanks a lot!

I will test these

[idle parrot]

hey, excuse me. can focus slides (the blue ones you get with the souljade) be parried? ty

[dim abyss]

as far as i remember, they can now

[wide moss]

Yes. To my dismay, it happens once in a while, lol.

[idle parrot]

Ok. thank you lmao

[wide moss]

Super fun jade though

[opal lodge]

whats this combos

keyboard

@wary escarp

combo like that video

grapple, then slice

all the time

[wary escarp]

In the clip, right after the standard ACCA -> uppercut, Takao used grapple -> uppercut to bump the enemy and then knock them up into the air, afterward he using W + air Horizontal to chain the air attack one after another

However this combo is terrain depended if you want to extend it, going down the slop and you can extend it as long as the slop allow, going up and the combo end prematurely after one or two air horizontal. At the same time it is somewhat FPS + ping depended for how many air Horizontal you can chain after the grapple -> uppercut.

Timing also somewhat hard to learn if you haven't used to this game combo

[opal lodge]

oh okay, but not ait, but they do combos when I am groun and can't escape

will try that too on training

they don't go on blue focus

[wary escarp]

There is not a single combo that can extended pass 3rd hit as far as I know, that's the reason why combo usually go into uppercut right after second hit, if you got stuck while grounded, either you have a ping problem and got rubberbanded or you too panic and got catch

[opal lodge]

ya but how to catch someone else?

[wary escarp]

Alright, let me make it more clear, to catch someone else in my previous sentence is to read that your opponent is about to dodge, so you actively doing a running attack to catch the while they are stuck in the dodging animation

They might have catch you panicking attemping to flee and catch you right there.

But since you said you got grounded for a long time, and they still combo you, I doubt they are intentionally giving up the advantage just to do some humiliation. Might just be a bot detected you have bad internet and decided to abuse that

However I would glad to know what your opponent did. If you can, I hope you can provided a clip to see where the issue lies

[opal lodge]

ohhh next time I will record it, okay thanks

[opal lodge]

yee they do abuse :ddddd

[opal lodge]

@wary escarp

just had a fight, this one was light, other were too much pro

he did grapple, upercut combo too

I just can't correct my mistakes

but I can see, there is a lot

[wary escarp]

Oof, there are a lot of things you need to learn then

First of all, you rolling way too much, wasting your stamina without efficiently disengage. Second, you put yourself in a vulnerable situation where you guarantee getting hit (doing vertical air attack, trying to doing non focus attacks against blue focus state). Third, please try the specialized training if you haven't, you should probably know how to use counter to stop blue focus if you did the tutorial.

[opal lodge]

okay, will try

thanks a lot

[opal lodge]

@wary escarp also, one more, when there is 2 vs 1, and I am in 2

how can I fight that one?

cause he can win if we both stand together

[opal lodge]

pls rate this too

cause only reason I've won is because I have lower rank in trios

and I am solar in duo

so my blue focus was not really smart, or spamming longword

[cold orbit]

I’m going to assume you’re new, so the things you do here is pretty normal for beginners.

If you want to learn and improve more, we can queue up and I’ll help you. Only in EU tho, otherwise you can just ask stuff here

[opal lodge]

I am not new, but studying now

[opal lodge]

ye I am in eu and have time tomorrow

apprecciate

[cold orbit]

From ur fight, it’s best to pick a character and learn how their skill works. Shayol can throw out her shields to squeeze enemies in a single shot up to three times

[opal lodge]

ye will join you tomorrow, I know Kylin best

[pseudo venture]

Is there any way to heaven step on console ?

[cold orbit]

Katana heaven step is patched

Only dual blades

[pseudo venture]

On console ?

[wary escarp]

First, I can see you still don't know character's abilities, like Misty pointed out, you can do a shield throw after block with Shayol V by pressing V again. Second, to many repeating mistake in one fight, on the last clip and second clip, you keep on doing easy to parry blue focus and repeating them, you keep grapple enemies while you are not that far away from the enemies, making yourself vulnerable. Third, on the last clip, I noticed you dash right after each clash, you keep on attacking while your opponent is either too far to reach or in a focus state, both making your attacks not effective and ultimately making you lose a lot of fight.

[opal lodge]

oh thanks

[dark depot]

I don't think so you can Dual Weapon Heavenstep on Console (Maybe I am wrong but I think even downhill is hard)

[teal belfry]

@fresh fossil may know

[rich talon]

Afaik you can get 2 Uppercuts if you do the first with Nunchucks. I’ve saw a clip from Sadaki doing it on a Ps5 Pro.

[dark depot]

ah okay good to know

[fresh fossil]

U can ye but it needs to be perfect

In downhill its easy tho

[rich talon]

[fresh fossil]

U can do this heavenstep as well but its with ultimate so idk

I just wish we have 120 fps in real game on pro u have 120 in free training or custom u have but real game u have like 80fps or 90fps so kinda dogshit

U can do this too

[opal lodge]

hi, got time

[rich talon]

Even on Pro not consistent 120fps?

[fresh fossil]

Yeah its bad

[rich talon]

Damn a friend of mine played on a normal Ps5. Then he got 60 online, or?

[fresh fossil]

No xdd

He got 50 or 40 sometimes

Its cooked on console in real game

[rich talon]

Yeah he knew everytime when a fight happened somewhere around 100m, cause it was about to lagging heavily xd

[fresh fossil]

If u want to know other heavenstep lemme know

[rich talon]

I mean I am playing on MnK, but how do you do these „Sheath Sliding Uppercuts“? I still don’t get it, how these work

[fresh fossil]

Its just knowing the timing once u know the timing it's easy "practice make perfect"

[rich talon]

[rich talon]

So i need to sheath my Weapon, Dash Backwards, equip my Weapon and do a sliding uppercut, right?

[fresh fossil]

Pretty much yes

Dont go to fast remember u are in pc u can take ur time

[rich talon]

[opal lodge]

pc is different?

[fresh fossil]

Yeah console and pc have not the same hit box, range, imput lag, etc...

[opal lodge]

oh thanks

[golden rampart]

Guys if someone know how to do base graple combo dm me il show you how i do it say what's wrong

[cold orbit]

Why don’t you share it here? Lots of people can critique it that way

[onyx loom]

🎉 | 冰溪冰晰冰汐 leveled up!

[golden rampart]

Oh okay i try

I can't do it here

can't sent vid

[rich talon]

Eh Quick Question. Does it make a difference, when I bump the bot like this or just do the normal crouch rmb? Is the height then different? I’m not at home to try

And I’ve never compared that actually

[meager trail]

i think slide uppercut knocks targer higher than normal uppercut

[opal lodge]

Hi, got time on monday?

for me to practice

[river beacon]

Main problem - is your uppercut+grapple. Also I suggest to try hengsword first, then try katana. IMO - heng is easier (animation). But anyways you need to practice on your upper+grapple timing.

[onyx loom]

🎉 | NeroYoung leveled up!

[south pumice]

does anyone have a good spear guide recommendation?

I just feel like I cant win any fights with it specially against nunchuks

[pale birch]

what fps do you have

[rich talon]

350-400

[pale birch]

yeah I though so, with that fps and your really good ping I bet you're from Germany

I think you should be able to do that many jump lmbs without the slide uppercut

but yeah that slide actually bounces the enemy body a bit higher than normal uppercut but it's not that big of a difference

[rich talon]

Yeah I’m from Germany

[rich talon]

[pale birch]

is that a cute middle finger finger

[urban surge]

any fun combos for higher ranks thanks?

[wary escarp]

A lot of thing you need to fix:

1. I can see you attemp to do ACCA (Attack-crouch-crouch cancel-attack), however you did ACA(Attack-crouch-attack), this means your uppercut will not be true. I recommending you sticking with using dodge to reset to the first attack.
2. You grapple too late, if the grapple timing is right, your character shouldn't leave the ground. You can buffer the grapple before the uppercut connect, you just have to learn the window in which you can buffer the grapple.
3. While grappling, it is recommended to holding A or D while looking directly at your target, if not, you are like to do a roll, this means your blue focus will be delayed.

[rich talon]

@dark depot Do you know, what I am doing wrong there? Is the F to low?

[cold orbit]

Yeah, sorry. I’ve been busy lately. I usually come on after work around 6 or 8

[opal lodge]

Hi, I have tiem tomorrow, all day, now is 2pm for me and for you?

[cold orbit]

I’ll come on later today, I’ll give u a ping a ping to see if you’re on

[opal lodge]

no today, at work

[cold orbit]

Fair enough. Tomorrow then. No guarantee but after work as well

[opal lodge]

no worries

[dark depot]

You were sliding to the left at start which makes it afterwards pretty hard

everything else was good

[rich talon]

[cold orbit]

How do I dodge tarka’s punch when I’m playing Tarka? My resolution is so bad I genuinely cannot tell who punches who first

[turbid linden]

you mean the nut kick after the 2 dodges in his ulti state?

[lusty cosmos]

Whoever punches last gets prio. It's a lot of back and forth until a punch lands if both tarkas are really good. I suggest checking a vod from a cn pro to get an idea. Mike or hwq for example https://youtu.be/mIznXMMLxvE?si=bVqyst1GWpTO1ZEl go to about 6:30 for the 1v1s

[cold orbit]

It’s too much back and forth in my case. I can’t even bait a punch anymore

[cold orbit]

@lusty cosmos Do you have any vids on 211 cancel to a vertical on katana? Like you do a vert then cancel airborne with a 211 to continue the vertical again

[lusty cosmos]

Not sure what u mean but no i don't think so. I can link a 211 tutorial video

[cold orbit]

This is what I meant @lusty cosmos

[lusty cosmos]

Maybe @viscid kelp has a video

[cold orbit]

Channel name?

[rich talon]

Aren’t these Sheath Uppercuts? I’ve saw only Treygo doing that in his YT Shorts. But I don’t know if there’s a Video out there explaining it. I still haven’t found something about that too

[cold orbit]

yeah, it is. Idk how it works and my chinese friends can’t explain the concept to save their lives

[rich talon]

It’s just sheathing, dodging and a sliding uppercut. But the timing is very weird

[viscid kelp]

I'm too mechanically washed these days to do it repeatedly, but ig this might help with the idea input wise

It is just uppercut -> sheathe -> hold dodge -> swap -> slide uppercut

But the swap can't be done too early, as it otherwise cancels your hold dodge and causes your momentum to be reset, which means you can't slide (uppercut) anymore

You also can't slide too early, since you'll slam into the ground otherwise

Oh yeah fyi I swap back to katana with mouse wheel, for some reason my input overlay doesn't record when I scroll

[rich talon]

So that one would be correct? Only the timing is a bit off I guess.

[viscid kelp]

Yes
On second attempt you swapped too early causing the momentum reset I mentioned

But otherwise it's right

Just gonna take practice

[rich talon]

[cold orbit]

ooo nice, let me try this out! thanks

[queen lily]

any tips to do lyam bow shot combo?

I cant timing it well ;-;

[fresh fossil]

[pale birch]

So what are you trying to demonstrate by this

[fresh fossil]

Flexing

[cold orbit]

Some die of thirst while others drown

[pale birch]

bro I swear I have no idea when I replied to that

I think I was sleep texting

it happened before

like I just woke up

insane fps tho

[rich talon]

[untold swallow]

What system?

[calm dirge]

I see pros and high level players doing 1 dual weapons light attack into katana/heng swap

what's the point?

how is this better then just doing 2 katana lights?

[cold orbit]

It’s extremely situational, but more often you practice the muscle memory to switch. This is useful because in a tech chase, it’s faster to do a RMB dash to catch your opponent, but since you can’t get a combo start off RMB, you switch to katana to perform it.

Other reason is just it’s easier when you get the hang of it. You don’t have to use your brain much, and instead of worrying about not being to start a combo, you can just hit RMB and switch

Works with katana too. You can rmb katana by accident, then switch to dual to combo start

[calm dirge]

interesting, but probably not for my level of play

[unreal wyvern]

not really situational

[calm dirge]

thanks anyways!

[unreal wyvern]

its just that rmb of dual blades has much better hitbox/faster animation

so its very easy to catch someone

normally this attack would not allow for a true combo

but swapping to another weapon is faster than waiting for next attack with dual blades

[calm dirge]

also I think duals focus does more damage?

so it would be duals v - katana h - katana cv - g - duals focus?

[cold orbit]

It’s easier than it seems tho

[meager trail]

1st reason is db vertical animation is fast and got long reach, it's excellent at catching your opponent, so you use db vertical to catch then crouch swap to katana then horizontal into uppercut for combo
and 2nd is previously there is a way to guarantee hitting the vertical blue follow up after db charged vertical, so db grapple does alot of damages, so ppl swap back to db after grapple to do a blue + follow up, it was fixed though, now u can't hit that follow up anymore

but the db v for catching + c swap to katana to combo is still effective and ppl got used to it for a long time so it's still a bread and butter combo for them

just remember: db v for catching then once u catched u opponent swap to kata for combo start

[turbid linden]

I'd also add to that that katanas' vertical strikes track way more than you'd expect, so when you chase after a fleeing opponent then attack, then dodge/run after them again, it can catch them in the back ffrom a ridiculously high distance, I'd say about as far as a charged staff jab

[grim mortar]

Has anyone noticed that you can't edit the sensitivity on the dual pistols?

[hearty rune]

Just whisper into your mic "Its High Noon.." and you will insta hit people

[turbid linden]

Can someone ELI5 what just happened? I know obviously that dagger and fan attacks can be charged crouching/sliding, but here's what killed me this time: enemy Tessa grappled onto me from miles away (OK, normal), then IMMEDIATELY as soon as her attack/grapple strike connected, I was in the hugging animation of Pride's Fall and got slammed to the ground, all armor gone, 60% HP gone.

How could one charge the attack while grappling? What did I miss? Is there a method to that?

Fist time ever I've seen sg. like this

coooonfusion of da highes ooooordaaaahhhhhh for me

[cold orbit]

Quite easy actually. You grapple then jump to cancel. After canceling, you do a light attack then dodge into a hold blue mid air

[cold orbit]

Or just dodge and hold blue right away. Or just switch weapon after canceling then immediately to blue

[turbid linden]

WHAAATTT never heard of it 😮 Thanks, I'll keep that in mind and also try it out at the practice range! Never seen this one used before either on me, or on an enemy 😮 Thank you again for the clarification! ❤️

[meager trail]

sounds like this jade

[turbid linden]

Could very well be! I've almost never used it since I'm bad at its mechanic LOL but the animation matches; it was so swift and in an obscured place (mountainside and bushes) I only saw my character being hugged and slammed to the ground LOL

[meager trail]

or this game mechanic

[turbid linden]

LMAO

[meager trail]

when you got hit by grappling hook during the green focus disengage animation, this happens

[turbid linden]

Ahhhhhh

Okay got it

TIL 😂😂

[timber geyser]

@steep veldt

[opal lodge]

so now

I played trio

and I thin my performance was good

not doing charged attacks all the time

skipping third attack so no blue

and helping my teamates, who were pros

:d

[cold orbit]

I suggest it’ll be a good habit to practice precise blue release. It’s more had more value than parry baiting cause often people just don’t fall for it anymore

[opal lodge]

whats parry baiting

[cold orbit]

Like when you hold blue to bait your enemy to parry then you cancel the blue into a combo

[opal lodge]

ahhhh

annoying

ok will try

but also

can you tell me

[cold orbit]

But instead of doing that, you can hold it longer than usual until they parry then you release to punish them

[opal lodge]

what to do when there are 2vs3, and I am the third, soo should I jump into fight or what to do?

[opal lodge]

.

[cold orbit]

It depends:

1. Look for teammate that needs help such as low health or they’re struggling to 1v1
2. Jump the opponent with lower health

Or play kurumi and chill while you link onto one of ur mates

[opal lodge]

oh ok, but they pull best combo ever

[cold orbit]

If that’s the case then add onto their combo.

[opal lodge]

also when to do my F and ulti? before startign fight or middle or after I have low hp?

[cold orbit]

Like when they juggled and when they’re about to release their blue, you release urs at the same time

[cold orbit]

Depends on the hero you play. If you shayol, ult early to protect ur team

If you play Tarka, just ult and 1v3

[opal lodge]

thats good

recently played

Temulch

so when exactly?

they can dodge it

on big hp

nothing works

[cold orbit]

For Temmy, it really depends on ur team as well cause usually good temmy team ults first then combine the ult.

But usually, it’s either first or in the middle of the fight

[opal lodge]

yaa whe nI play Kylin I always save Ulti and just die

but also now they all studied how to dodge Inor

[cold orbit]

don’t be like my friend and forget to use ult until death

[opal lodge]

ya ya sure, I'll try from the start

[opal lodge]

help, could not do anything in training

[cold orbit]

Practice hold checking. Basically the less time you get stunned, the better

[opal lodge]

ok but that he attacking me

what should I do

[cold orbit]

Props to this guy

https://youtu.be/FepXmNba69s?si=EcITmR9IAPFiq4Kt

[opal lodge]

thanks

[quick furnace]

Anyone know combos for the fan and longsword I cant find any.

[teal belfry]

There is some on YouTube

[quick furnace]

Alright thank you send a link if you suggest any

[teal belfry]

https://youtu.be/G4vxDv9VNfY?si=xck1duAGUXCszc5z

[lusty cosmos]

Fan can't really combo. Uppercut- grapple - focus, or u can start it with a scale rush is about it. There is also light- crough light - light, but this doesn't work against high fps low ms players

[wary escarp]

Soulshatter is needed for the uppercut grapple combo xD

[sly ore]

fan can combo from the wind dash if sufficiently close

that's why some chinese players go incredibly close to their enemy despite being on fan

that and they don't want to get max range parried

[wary escarp]

I keep forgot that we can combo with wind wall at close range

[devout maple]

Hi

[radiant sand]

Hey guys, I am watching this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMjAxCw0Pa4 -> minute 02:00 and most of the time as seen in the clip I uploaded after the sheathe into vertical I can't seem to properly follow up the target with half jump into horizontal attacks, do I need to input like sprint + W + jump with H. or simply my jump with H. attacks is not timed properly? Also I would love any feedback even though it is short clip would be appreciated!

[viscid kelp]

Not dodging backwards on the 211 would probably fix it

There isn't really a need to input a directional for 211 to begin with, unless you consciously wanna manipulate your position

[radiant sand]

It never crossed my mind 😐 , thank you very much! I will try it tomorrow, also having the exact key inputs helps a lot, that way I can see exactly when what is pressed, you are golden, really appreciate it!

[viscid kelp]

[real sage]

how many weapon types is recommended to learn in depth for new ish players?

[sly ore]

it's recommended to learn katana first

it teaches you concepts for most other weapons

[real sage]

oh okay

what abt spear/staff?

[sly ore]

i mean you can play whatever you like, but i don't think spear and staff are particularly great weapons for learning the game

katana is the prime learning weapon

and dual blade is somewhat similar to katana in terms of moveset

it's like a more limited katana

with better catches

[lusty cosmos]

You eventually want to learn all weapons to an extent. Heaven is recommending katana as a new p player because it doesn't have any unique mechanics that you can crutch on, so transitioning to other weapons will come easier. But it is good to learn what makes each weapon strong in its own way too

[real sage]

Makes sense

For longsword blues will u get parried/stunned if they parry the wave at max range?

[queen solstice]

[gilded vortex]

GS seems to be able to block everything, no attacks can go through?

[lusty cosmos]

Not always, sometimes you have time to dodge the wave. Btw that parried wave can be parried by someone else and if someone else parries that it can be vollied back and forth infinitely, it's pretty funny to see. Not very practical tho

[wary escarp]

Blue focus that send out a projectile attack (longsword non jade blue focus, fan's wild windspout...), if you are close enough, the parry will just send you into stagger animation and disarm you. But if you are a little far away from them, parry will send back the projectile, this will stagger you long enough for them to do the counter attack without disarm you.

However some blue focus that look like it send out a projectile but use the weapon AS the projectile, parry at any range will result in a disarm (examples fan non jade blue focus, universal slash for dual blades...)

[vivid quiver]

did they change anything with the longsword grapple combo? I'm coming back to the game and it is IMPOSSIBLE to hit on the combo disengage dummy in training.

[pearl igloo]

What is the difference between weapon rarities? Like I assume it's just higher rarities do more damage but how impactful is it? Like is it worth going for a weapon of lower rarity if it's a weapon im more comfortable with and like more as opposed to a higher rarity weapon that im not as good with and dont like as much?

[wary escarp]

If you are using the white weapon as base damage (100%) each tier up increase by 20% (blue 120%, purple 140%, gold 160%, only red is around 168%, if Im not wrong, because else it is busted). This affect not only the weapon damage but also the abilities damage while you are holding it. Transformers also use the currently equip weapon for their transformer damage calculator.

As for if you should use a lower tier weapon if you are more comfortable with it, yeah sure why not. If you have a gold weapon without knowing how to use it, it might not be yours for long. Use what you are comfortable with, but I recommending learning every weapon or at least get familiar with more than one weapon so you don't have to go looking for one just to fight.

[lusty cosmos]

When u practice combos have the bot with disengage off.
They did change ls combos a while ago, they removed the regular infinite, so you can pretty much just get 2 uppercut into grapples by normal means now before your opponent drops quickly

[light obsidian]

As Vang said, its better to stick with what you know and keep the highest tier for skills/ults, but always atleast give other weapons a try (helps alot when you don't have a choice).

There are spirit wells and morus chests that have a shard to upgrade weapons to purple. So if you have the choice between a higher tier weapon you don't know and a low tier weapon that you're comfortable, you can plan to make a stop

[vivid quiver]

oh Man I see. yeah I remember being able to hit the bump almost every time. I did more research and saw that LS has the longest .90 hold so it makes sense why my bum ass cant hit it consistently. I just assumed all the bump combos were the same cause the katana combo was really easy for me. TY for the info.

[turbid linden]

An honest question to y'all: what do you think about the skill/souljade Merciless Havoc? Is it balanced or too OP? I, for one, am torn, because while the fist attack can be parried, since you don't have to hit the target (say, like with Dragon Roar), I'd say the fact that you don't have to put yourself in danger due to parry it feels cheap

Utility 10/10, damage modifier 10/10, no issues there, it's just that even in Formless rank, people stab the air then mop the floor with your team because you cannot parry what isn't at first aimed at you

I don't mind OP souljades like Aurora Burst, Soul Slash, etc., but they feel balanced because you have to be in parry range to pull them off

[stray mason]

Isn't it parryable by jump parry?

[turbid linden]

First stab ( regular precision strike) yes, but the skill itself is instant golden focus

Feels cheap tbh

[stray mason]

Ik but i mean if they shoot the blue to the back can't be parried like jumping parrying?

Obviously at medium range staff is in advantage but close range should be parriable or am i wrong?

[turbid linden]

If you are in range, yes. Issue is, it has such a long range and is controlled by your camera and not where your character is facing that you can stand 10 meters (guess, I don't know the numbers) away from your enemy, turn away from them, stab the air there, then 180 with camera and unleash the skill

you stand well outside parry range, stab at the opposite direction of your enemy, then turn, click again and BAM instant golden focus attack in the enemy's face

[unreal wyvern]

i mean its one of the most OP jades in game

u can also turn it around

to guarantee it doesnt get parried

[turbid linden]

feels cheap that someone wipes our partzy while being away lol

[unreal wyvern]

but there are so many bs jades in game rn

idk anymore

[turbid linden]

honestly that's the only one I have ever had issues with in my 1300+ hours of play time

[unreal wyvern]

all the jades that instantly do blue attack without charging like sky punch, aerial dash, engraving etc

[turbid linden]

even Dreadful Wail is better, again, due to parry range

[unreal wyvern]

the only tip i can give

first hit has very small range

so if someone just aims forward

u can parry on reaction

after u see first hit

[turbid linden]

I know, but good to know some of you guys also think it's OP XD

[unreal wyvern]

its garbage in rift traversal

so there is one place where u can avoid it kinda

XD

[turbid linden]

Lol

What I was laughing my ass out loud at was when I was in solo ranked

And a Shayol killed both opponents in the top 3 (I did 4th) by literally spamming the staff's precision strike randomly in the arena where the fight was, then Merciless, hoping it would hit, and the poor souls couldn't even avoid it 🤣🤣🤣

Mind you, this was Asura solo 🤣🤣🤣 my guy just won using basically Bronze tactics XDDDDD

SPAM BIG DAMAGE GOOD SKILL BOOM DEAD LMAO

TARZAN STRONK XDDDDD

I was literally in tears laughing that it worked so well 🤣🤣🤣🤣

There was no rhyme or reason behind his attacks either, just spam away and win XDDDDD

[turbid linden]

And yes, she did it without using ulti or hero skill, just spamming precision strike blue attacks, then Merciless, that was it XD

[rich talon]

Anyone knows what i am missing? i just cant get this to work

[dim abyss]

have u tried in pvp? i don't know this combo per se but bot can dodge some things players cant

there is a staff infinite combo ive done in pvp with some jade on players

but it was much harder on the bot

flying knives old infinite too

[rich talon]

I’ve saw Yung doing it with the Bot too.

But idk for me it doesn’t work. Even if I grapple instantly or delay it a bit.

[digital pond]

anyone know whats the fastest way to level up ranged weapons?

[meager trail]

Showdown

[digital pond]

this one feels like it will take as long as the rest of them did

[devout maple]

[halcyon agate]

its to hard

can yall tell me what what im doing wrong please

[gritty ginkgo]

delay the jump RMB and don't hit it completely (grapple interrupt the jump RMB when they are already on the ground)

[solar estuary]

I need help with the double dash in air

It’s unfair that people did that to survive the last battle

[mild void]

Hey y'all. What's the correct button pressing order when slam dunking on ls/staff in tarka ult?

[mild void]

Wrong timing for backswap
You are supposed to click dash when you are at the very top in the sky kind of thing

On ls/whip this is approximately the timing for that, when you get the highest "wind hit"

[cold orbit]

Jump RMB -> Tap dodge -> Jump RMB repeat (You can do it rlly fast with high fps max is 3 plunges per max stamina)

[mild void]

I watched Chinese guys clicking weapon repair somewhere in the middle when doing that and they seem to be hitting faster than when I tried it myself without it, basically as you described. What do you think?

[cold orbit]

Ah ok, let me check this up with my CN friends. I’ll get back to you

[mild void]

I assume that it's supposed to be repair after dash
To cancel the hit animation with dash cause it hits fast anyway
And then probably it's faster to do repair+jump to switch to next action than clicking just the jump itself

Gonna try tomorrow

[cold orbit]

Alr I checked it up, and you’re right. I was unaware of this, so basically it goes like:

Jump RMB -> Dash -> Repair -> Jump RMB (Trick is don’t do it too fast, otherwise you won’t jump but hit a light instead) - Excuse the quality, I’m so washed nowadays

It also noted that the higher the FPS, the faster you get

[mild void]

Thanks for checking mate

[ember crest]

i miss something? i can't 211 combo :(

[cold orbit]

Several things:

1. Do RMB into vertical instead of LMB
2. When you’re in air, wait a bit then dodge back and once you do, scroll wheel switch really fast

[ember crest]

rmb uppercut dodge then switch weapon?

[long tulip]

rmb uppercut sheathe dodge and cancel the dodge animation with scroll

[cold orbit]

For LS only

[long tulip]

can hold rmb the whole time

[cold orbit]

For heng u can LMB

[long tulip]

to check which attack is a combo starter play with bot disengage off combat mode on

[ember crest]

like this?

[long tulip]

you have to cancel your dodge animation with the weapon swap

as soon as you see your character sheathe the weapon dodge and scroll (up or down depending on wich weapon you want to attack with)

[left pasture]

in the part where you 1 2 jump RMB how did you got enough height to hit the 2 i cant never do that the bot just drop on the ground after 1 [ms 40 - 30 FPS 120 lock ]

[onyx loom]

🎉 | Mask leveled up!

[strange quail]

Could someone explain how to do grapple into uppercut with longsword?
Even 211 didn't cause such difficulty.

I tried uppercut cancel animation with grapple , but

1. Bot fell on ground before uppercut animation
   2)I made just RMB although I press crouch.

[dim abyss]

send video of you doingi t

i will try to see what is the problem

and tell me what fps you play with

[cold orbit]

You do: RMB -> crouch Vertical -> Grapple cancel -> (Right after you bump into the enemy) -> crouch vertical

Don’t press any directional inputs

otherwise you will roll

Also you need to crouch vertical immediately after bumping the bot otherwise the bot will fall down

[halcyon agate]

thank u for answer i will take note 🙏

[queen solstice]

[untold swallow]

some ramp katana combos

and ls carousel with sheath

[graceful plover]

wf

[untold swallow]

[queen solstice]

[grim bobcat]

https://medal.tv/games/naraka-bladepoint/clips/mkFyyVfNJPP2dU3Kh?invite=cr-MSxyRnEsNDI2ODA5NDIz&v=23 hey can anyone help me land this ls grapple combo? I get it sometimes against the bot but rarely and i have no idea what's wrong

i buffer the focus right after I cast the grapple

[cold orbit]

Adjust ur grapple placement. Land it a bit closer to the circle. Also, make sure to hold down right click the entire combo. Tho keep in mind that bot has 0ms, they can avoid hits that would otherwise connect with real players

[grim bobcat]

where exactly should I aim the grapple?

near the edges?

or closer to the middle

@cold orbit

[cold orbit]

Yeah, try doing it closer to the edge

It’s not always the same for everyone

Mine works consistently near the edge and middle

[grim bobcat]

ok ill give it a shot

[cold orbit]

Make sure u also pre input the charge attack

[grim bobcat]

yeah i've been doing that but people keep telling me it looks like i'm charging it late

I input the uppercut and dont let go of rmb

throughout the rest of the combo

[cold orbit]

It does look that way in the video. LS works a bit differently. Try adjusting ur grapple to see if it helps

[grim bobcat]

https://medal.tv/games/naraka-bladepoint/clips/mkIwkLYN6ZwGMyqO9?invite=cr-MSxhcEEsNDI2ODA5NDIz&v=10 this what u mean?

wow that took a long ass time to upload lmao

[upper lagoon]

"Hello, I wanted to know if someone could help me with the game. I can do quick counters, but I can’t manage to do sustained counters, even though I see everyone else doing it. Thanks in advance! I’m playing on PC, by the way ^^

[golden grail]

Grapple the character instead, a far higher chance of hitting. Also, you're on 70 ms, there's absolutely no chance you can hit a bot with that ping.

[cold orbit]

Ok I had look. It might have to do with your camera angle

Because right after u made contact, ur character charged either backwards or sideways

[cold orbit]

I was thinking the same, but thought of my friend who plays with 120 yet they consistently hit the charge

[golden grail]

On Tianhai?

[cold orbit]

Yes, on Tianhai

[golden grail]

Was it on combo mode?

连招模式

[cold orbit]

Ill have to ask again, but it could be either combo or hard mode train

[golden grail]

Combo mode makes Tianhai's dodging speed maximum

Even if it manages to hit, its like 1 out of 100 chance

You can accelerate your speed with win切 but well, I don't recall anyone in NA does that

[golden grail]

What do you mean by "sustained counters"

[cold orbit]

I’ve been telling him this. His hits are more likely to connect with players than the training bot

[cold orbit]

Probably referring to composite

[golden grail]

Yeah, landing on players should be fine, unless its a high difference in fps.

[golden grail]

那是啥

[cold orbit]

Parrying with 2 buttons Tho I rarely uses that

[golden grail]

Remove it

Anyone who uses that will never improve, trust me

[cold orbit]

He mentioned everyone uses it but do they really

[golden grail]

Definitely not the type of players you would consider exceptionally good. (Not saying everyone who uses 2-click parry is bad, I believe there are definitely a handful of few who are consistently monstrous with it, though its just very easy get it to fu3k up)

[meager trail]

Sorry but you really dont know what you're talking about
70ms cant hit basic ls grapple combo on training bot?
Using composite parry = noob?

[lusty cosmos]

Me when i spread misinformation

[lusty cosmos]

What do you mean by sustained counters? If u don't know, once u parry a focus attack you can wait and it will keep you in that gold focus and you will continue to parry additional focus attacks if they hit you in that window until either you do the reposte (lmb) or cancel out of the animation.

Parry timing needs to be precise. But once you get that first parry it gives you a big window that you stay in gold focus to continuously parry. Is that what u were asking about?

[lusty cosmos]

I've always used composite parry, it works the exact same as quick parry. It's just what I'm used to. Idk who lied to you

[lusty cosmos]

What is this?

Some cheat program? Are you suggesting he use this?

[lusty cosmos]

70 is not too high to do basic grapple combos. You can do them even over 100 ms but the timing is different and it's not always consistent.

[meager trail]

Target grapple will fails at like 55-60ms ping threshold though, but ground grapple is completely doable even on 100ms, as long as you got a good enough amount of fps

[lusty cosmos]

Grapple a little bit sooner and place it a bit closer to yourself, also hold focus sooner

If you aren't already, use input buffering to make the timing easier. You can input a movement + attack near the end of your current animation and it will be performed immediately. So your crouch + vertical can be input at the end of your vertical animation, then pull out your grapple immediately and fire it as soon as your uppercut connects, hold a or d and vertical focus once your grapple bump hits

Set your grapple to switch so that u click q at the start of your uppercut and lmb or rmb once it connects to fire it immediately

[cold orbit]

Composite parry is in fact faster than quick parry. Using both is better, but all miles down to preference

[lusty cosmos]

This is how it was over a year ago. They now function almost the same, except quick parry can be useful to cancel some animations quickly in a consistent way

[grim bobcat]

like I said I buffer focus as soon as i launch the grapple

but ill try buffering the grapple too ty

and yes u can hit it on 70 ping 200fps ive done it before on the bot

just only 2 or 3 times within about an hour of attempts

i dont get why its so inconsistent 😭

[meager trail]

With ls you'd want to grapple further

Compare to other weaps

[grim bobcat]

im getting really mixed responses

people telling me to grapple closer to myself and also further

[meager trail]

Nah def further

[grim bobcat]

can u send a clip

[meager trail]

Cant get on rn but iirc i did posted the same combo on 100ms on this channel, lemme try to find it

[grim bobcat]

ok also what grapple setting do u play on?

switch?

[meager trail]

#🔱┃weapons-combat message

[grim bobcat]

im getting pretty consistent with my longsword 211 and my katana grapple focus combos which is nice

[grim bobcat]

thanks

[meager trail]

#🔱┃weapons-combat message

Or u can just do this instead

[grim bobcat]

ill prolly try that out

i think its also a problem of me releasing the focus a bit late

it seems so precise

and I can do it only with katana

[meager trail]

As u can see i always grapple outside the circle, away from my position

[meager trail]

Yeah you gotta feel it

Not release based on visual information

[grim bobcat]

yeah i know i can't react to the ding

katana's animation is telling right before though

idk everything about katana is easy but longsword's so dope i have to learn it

[meager trail]

Well some more practice you should be able to get it consistent now that the false info about "you cant hit the combo bot on 70ms" has been proven incorrect