#🔱┃weapons-combat

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rich talon
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Or I am not long enough on this server tbf Bebu_pizza

tawdry shuttle
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what is the best way to improve combat for duo / trio, anything beside 212....

lusty cosmos
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He's too humble

lusty cosmos
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You won't be using any flashy combos, just stuff that keep your oponent in the air and don't send them flying

tawdry shuttle
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212 combo just overwhelm me too much...

lusty cosmos
rich talon
tawdry shuttle
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which skill are you talking about

lusty cosmos
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We have a professional trios coach for sea server

tawdry shuttle
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i also learn a lot abou how to disengage and stamina management from them

lusty cosmos
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I mean you really just need to coordinate with your team, it's the only main difference

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And attacks that keep your weapon in long stagger are really good

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Like staff 2nd stage attack

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Or aurora burst and stuff like that

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Then you can also learn how to combo ults and abilities for the same purpose

tawdry shuttle
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i think that is the one I have no prior kknowledge yet, what and which skill/attack do stagger
i still don't know about that part

lusty cosmos
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Everything staggers

tall tusk
chilly heron
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I did read some of the conversation yesterday about this but I thought to ask anyways, how important is the fps/ping required to do a double uppercut with the katana?

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Ive been doing grapple -> charge combos for a while now and I tried again to attempt to learn double uppers but my character ends up rolling after the grapple and Im not sure how to prevent that

meager trail
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or hold a/d

chilly heron
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📝 will try that out

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also do people not use H > C > C > H anymore? I see alot of H > D > H now

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ive been playing on and off for the past 2 years so my information I learned before may be different now

meager trail
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ACCA is still widely used

rich talon
chilly heron
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attack crouch crouch attack

rich talon
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Ahhh

chilly heron
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or HCCH on katana

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iirc its H hold C tap C H

rich talon
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That doesn’t work for me… Idk I’m too dumb ZipingYin_GiftFlowers

chilly heron
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I think its true combo? but Im not to sure

undone anchor
chilly heron
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I always did H > CV cause I didnt trust it

undone anchor
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Need to learn the timing for the crouch cancel

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Basically the idea is to reset the stance, same as you do with the hold dodge

rich talon
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Ahhh the Timing again AUchikahh SwehytSpin

undone anchor
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It's also possible to do it with a small hop, but I personally don't recommend it

undone anchor
chilly heron
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ah okay

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this is what It looked like before

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it seems like hold a/d during grapple stopped the rolling, but now I gotta figure out how to get the second CV in 🕵️

meager trail
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your grapple is too slow

chilly heron
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📝 youre holding C during the grapple before the second one right?

meager trail
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nah

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just bumped into target then C V immediately

chilly heron
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oh.. I saw that earlier I think so I thought that was the tech lmao

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the past 5 minutes have been looking like this

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not that LMAO

undone anchor
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If held the whole grapple time it won't register

rich talon
wary escarp
chilly heron
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@rich talon @undone anchor @meager trail as close as I will get, spent the last like 20 minutes trying to get both hits of the in air H to land but didnt get it yet

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but thank you for the coaching masters !! Atleast Ik its possible on my pc now and will continue to train more ZipingYin_GiftFlowers

meager trail
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after 2nd uppercut you hold w

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to then air horizontal > land > short hop > air horizontal

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and repeat

chilly heron
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I figured that but my hands are too tired to process 😂

meager trail
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anyway you got the 2nd uppercut

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that's progress

chilly heron
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all my focus is torwards getting the 2nd uppercut im not ready for what was after

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but yes !! progess indeed

undone anchor
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U got this 👍👍

analog hawk
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heh after reading this imma practiice it too

chilly heron
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woah it tracks how long ive been in here

analog hawk
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i also had the same issues

chilly heron
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ALSO WE GOT IT

analog hawk
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w

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w

chilly heron
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just tried again after my little break to post my progress

undone anchor
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Well done! Kylin_hearty

chilly heron
analog hawk
chilly heron
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but thank you masters for the help ZipingYin_GiftFlowers

cyan falcon
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Very well done. cat_Excited_Bounce
I really wish there were more controller players that could give tips on doing this stuff. I kinda just have to experiment until i get something down

analog hawk
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😭

chilly heron
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😭 me too

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idk if you were asking people yesterday or not cause I saw everyone saying they were EU and SEA

analog hawk
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ou

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carry me

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heh

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i js started like

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a month ago

chilly heron
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I have no friends to play duo and trio

analog hawk
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im like rlly bad

rich talon
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Like how am i supposed to get this done? Kurumi_cry If i don't crouch lmb, the Bot flies away.
(And we don't talk about my crappy, sluggish looking 211's) Kurumi_Scary

undone anchor
wary escarp
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The input overlay is right there

undone anchor
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I had lost it, Ty 👍👍

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(just woke up)

rich talon
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Discord so weird on Phone. Videos doesn’t load. Or they freez but I still have the Sounds playing. Bebu_pizza

undone anchor
rich talon
rich talon
undone anchor
rich talon
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ok i rewatched takao's Clip... My 211s looking so damn ugly AUwhat

undone anchor
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Without the enemy would be even further away

undone anchor
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He's the goat of combos

rich talon
undone anchor
rich talon
undone anchor
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But most are in practice tool, I usually stop playing ranked as soon as I get asura, I'm doing it only for the rewards 🤔😂

rich talon
undone anchor
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The rank itself does not say much 👍👍

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Aside that you get 10 treasures for the end of season 😂

rich talon
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Need 93 Points but we get stomped so hard because of this new Feature called „Champion Lobbies“… This was the living Hell through Empyrian/Astral Pepe_Cry

rich talon
undone anchor
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Exactly

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Next goal is "formless dragon for me" after I can play again 🤔😂😂

rich talon
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Free Chests are good ZipingYin_GiftFlowers

undone anchor
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Still need to get asura this season, since I couldn't play 😂

rich talon
undone anchor
rich talon
undone anchor
rich talon
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ok, acca isnt that hard as i thought ZipingYin_GiftFlowers

echo hatch
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What’s everyone’s fav weapons? Mine in katanas and great sword

meager trail
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the way they ultilize dagger dash and stoneform

echo hatch
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Yea dagger is deadly if used right

analog hawk
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ermm

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hii

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so like

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any tips to fight greatsword and polearm ppl

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😭

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that block they have is so annoying

dire tulip
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@analog hawk play dual swords

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its the best weapon imo agaisnt greatsword/polesword

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but its not that good vs anything else

analog hawk
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thankss

undone anchor
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Poke, dodge back, see how they react

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All those focuses are reactable

analog hawk
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sorry

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uh

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wym

acoustic epoch
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I keep seeing "stoneform" everywhere and in game too

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what is stoneform?

long idol
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Greatsword and polesword attacks clash with enemy attacks and rebound, u can stack those rebounds up to 3 times and immediately release a blue strike charged attack corresponding to the amount of stacks you have

wary escarp
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and dagger

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mostly dagger

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GIMME YOUR DAGGER

acoustic epoch
long idol
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Yeah, also works if you clash blue vs blue

acoustic epoch
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but doesn't every weapon do that?

long idol
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Yes but big swords do a charged attack

acoustic epoch
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oh alr

long idol
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Let's say u clash 3 times then when u press right/left click

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It's as if u charged it for 3 blinks

acoustic epoch
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ooooooh

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but its so easy to parry it

wary escarp
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They can wait until you in parry recovery to release or hit you with non focus hit

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PS can even go into dodge -> blue focus -> guarantee vertical focus

acoustic epoch
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I see

wary escarp
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However their weakness is kinda funny, it's the range

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if they release their focus and you kinda out of the range of the focus attack, you can react parry them

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Talk the talk but I can't walk the walk on Heavysword tho

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I can deal with most weapon and most character. But if I see heavy sword, I'm crashing out XD

acoustic epoch
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Are the weapon congeneric switch good to use in pvp?

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the katana and heng sword one is really cool

wary escarp
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they are more niche than good

acoustic epoch
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ah ok

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Guess I won't be using it much then Zai_Disdain_bruh

olive crest
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How do I prevent rolling when hitting grapples? I can't seem to do the grapple combo because whenever I hit the enemy(or the floor), my character rolls on the ground

azure aurora
analog hawk
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I can’t with greatswords

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Like I dodge and then it goes into thag stoneform thingy all over again

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Never ending cycle

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I started using shayol cuz of this

wary escarp
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huh?

analog hawk
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😭 😭

wary escarp
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Define your problem

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Are you using GS or you are dealing with GS?

analog hawk
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Greatswords is the problem

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Dealing with

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I literally hate that thing

wary escarp
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I just said I cannot deal with the GS/PS because I'm crashing out whenever I'm dealing with it

analog hawk
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Ur wise

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Speak some words of wisdom about greatswords

wary escarp
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You either hyper aggressive against them and then bait and switch or you checking their trigger finger

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How likely they release after stoneform like that

analog hawk
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How do ik they in stoneform doe

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Like

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ik it’s thye keep deflecting

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But is there a way to tell before they go in

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And like charge blue doesn’t work on it either

wary escarp
olive crest
wary escarp
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Stoneform will not protect you from blue focus, only ultimate stoneform will

analog hawk
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What’s that

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3 hits?

wary escarp
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Just stoneform but blocking blue focus

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You need to release an attack and then hold and then eat attack to go into ultimate focus

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But the weapon itself is slow, clunky and easy to bait if the enemy is not well equip with it

analog hawk
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Moral of the story remove greatswords and poleswords

undone anchor
rich talon
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Whenever an enemy uses GS its literally the Final Boss of that round. EVENoseBleed Zai_cry

olive creek
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Is there a way to dodge wuchen's ult where he shoots like a billon swords at you

meager trail
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technically speaking it was made so you can react dodge the initial cast with human average reaction time

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but when ping come in to play it's fked

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so don't be surpirse if you dodged but still got pulled back into it

olive creek
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My problem is I dodge like the first couple and then run out of stamina and get hit by it and it takes like half my health

meager trail
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you don't have to dodge all of them

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the small blades only does damages, no stagger

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so what you would want to do is preserve your stamina to tap dodge the big blades which staggers you and does alot of damages

olive creek
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Oh I see

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Thanks

meager trail
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also you can use your own gold focus abilities

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to tank through it

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avoid being staggered while reduce alot of dmg taken from the big blades

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since being in abilities gold focus state gave you like 70% dmg reduction or something

analog hawk
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what the freak is gold focus

undone anchor
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For a year*

wary escarp
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The are called Gold Focus, which is better than blue anf purple focus

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But gold outline that came from ultimates (V) are called Ultimate focus, they cannot be disrupted unless you got chipped down to 0 hp and it can disrupted gold focus

astral rampart
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Hey guys, heaven step got fixed ?

analog hawk
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i heard u can do it tarka doe

astral rampart
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yea with tarka ult, but without that it's impossible ?

analog hawk
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i think so

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maybe if ur on a slope

undone anchor
wary escarp
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It is only possible to do on slope

undone anchor
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They delayed the moment where you can grapple after a slide uppercut

wary escarp
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But only by 2-3 times max if I'm not mistaken

analog hawk
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heh i knew that

astral rampart
analog hawk
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top 500 here i come

undone anchor
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If u ain't doing DH or LS one

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But that one is limited because of difficulty of execution

analog hawk
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i need to practice the CV G CV more

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i kinda bad at it

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i timing so so bad

undone anchor
analog hawk
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katana

undone anchor
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I personally find the timing for the double uppercut more comfortable than the focus grapple one 🤔

undone anchor
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It helps you have a better position and it can make it more consistent

analog hawk
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the focus one easier for me

analog hawk
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how far compared to the focus one tho

undone anchor
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I usually go for the far off edge of the gray circle

analog hawk
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also uh i kinda do a v instead of cv i need to fix that

undone anchor
analog hawk
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uh

undone anchor
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🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

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Should be aiming at the center of the gray circle usually 🤔🤔

analog hawk
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i mean it works

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😭

undone anchor
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(we are talking about the landing one, not the one the enemy has when on the ground btw)

undone anchor
analog hawk
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yeah so basically middle then

undone anchor
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For double uppercut made easier 🤔👍

analog hawk
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oh yeah

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i got that part

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i js need to better my cv g cv

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i js do cv g v

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if i get taht down ill be top 500

undone anchor
undone anchor
astral rampart
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okay i got it i think, but after you heavy blue, u can just throw another ball & the enemy can't react ?

undone anchor
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Ideally if they are in the air, you should have barely enough time

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Take the focus chain with dual halberds with a grain of salt tho. Compared to the clip, Lannie interactions got nerfed quite a bit

astral rampart
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Damn Lannie got nerfed so hard that’s sad

undone anchor
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Yep

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She was a bit overtuned tho

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It makes sense

cosmic charm
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Hey kinda new, are there any settings needed for any combos with weapons?

meager trail
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melee aim assist always on

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auto run better be off

cosmic charm
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Anything else?

meager trail
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aside from those 2 no

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up to your preferences

cosmic charm
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Why is melee aim assist always on?

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I feel like it would be bad in team fights

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or am I just being delusional

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it's free aim assit tbf

meager trail
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you can always overwrite it by holding w and turn your camera when releasing attacks

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if you don't hold w it will auto aim to closest target

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melee aim assist is needed for majority of combos

cosmic charm
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ahh I see

lusty cosmos
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Most importantly, turn down your graphics settings and try to pump as much fps as possible

wary escarp
analog hawk
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Like the pullout

undone anchor
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Can't anymore

analog hawk
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Ou

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That’s sad

undone anchor
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(in the comment on the second and third combo)

undone anchor
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No more raw dragon

analog hawk
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What’s raw dragon

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Is it the infinite dash

analog hawk
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peak of life rn

chilly heron
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double red weapon

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can someone explain what happend here at 2hr 30s-35s (video linked to time stamp) ?

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I saw them use V blue focus 3 times in a row, the first one and last one made sense but because they were grounded but how did he do the 2nd one mid air instead of it becoming a spike attack??

undone anchor
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Specifically the one Justina could do before the recent nerf

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(uppercut into ult activation into instant dash to freeze them and setup the combo)

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That sequence is a raw dragon

analog hawk
analog hawk
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heh tell me im right

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ohh that one

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uhh maybe cuz they got grappled idk\

chilly heron
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but the 2nd time was fully in the air so Idk how

chilly heron
analog hawk
chilly heron
analog hawk
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how does one slap ppl in this game and also why do ppl do it

meager trail
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sheathe your weapon and charge vertical attack

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as for the reason why it's a blue focus attack that can't be parried

quick stag
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i can now beat advanced training bot w no weapon

analog hawk
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whats the bind

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😭

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longnotes lowkey the goat icl

meager trail
analog hawk
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server shut down

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😭

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aw man

meager trail
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wot

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it's online rn

analog hawk
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deadass?

meager trail
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since like 2 hours ago lol

analog hawk
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YOOOO I CAN PLAY

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UAYAY

undone anchor
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Also works after a scare rush

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Scale*

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The timing changes with the weapon

chilly heron
left pasture
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Any tip for going against dual blade dual halberds and fist blade I mainly avoid blue focus of those weapon by hold dodge behind them but sometime I don’t have the distance to do so I just end up tap dodge behind and they just catch my dodge quick switch to katana/heng and lead to a combo

keen vine
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Hi, by any chance, can you tell me how you learned the combos you’ve been using lately in 1vs1 matches? Like, did you follow any YouTube channel? Any you’d recommend, or how?

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Lately I feel like my opponent is doing the upward attack movement to get up much faster than me, I don't know but when he does it he feels very slow...

rich talon
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I'm literally going to crashout, cause i cant hit that waving112

undone anchor
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If u need a starting point, we pinned a video with the basic combos 👍

undone anchor
undone anchor
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U became a combo pro 😱👍👍👍

analog hawk
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for some reason i cant hit the cv after g

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is there a easier way to get the timing

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YOO NVM I GOT IT

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😭

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ty akiio 😭

undone anchor
undone anchor
analog hawk
onyx loomBOT
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🎉 | lullaby leveled up!

analog hawk
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combonicks

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i have another issue now

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when i cv they dont go up

undone anchor
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2 possible issues: you are too slow on the uppercut; the grapple position is ogf

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Off

undone anchor
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(third option is lack of fps, but I m imagining that 80 you get no problem 🤔)

undone anchor
analog hawk
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its a skill issue

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😭

undone anchor
analog hawk
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i also dotn have clipping software

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😭

undone anchor
analog hawk
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ya

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imma js stick to my classy h d h cv g fv

undone anchor
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Try win+g next time you want to record smth

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It's a built in interface that also can clip

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I use that one

analog hawk
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ou ok

rich talon
onyx loomBOT
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🎉 | 丶.akiio leveled up!

rich talon
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Compared to idk… takao‘s 🤣

undone anchor
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It's just a perspective difference between u two

rich talon
undone anchor
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Next I'm waiting to see what you cook up with inor wan

rich talon
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I wanted to try him, but it was so late in the night. My Brain went completely autopilot Lannie_cutie_nom

rich talon
undone anchor
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Especially if you are like me and literally spend them in practice tool 🤔😂

rich talon
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I’ve played only Casual and Ranked Mode. 🤣

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But when I’m alone, training mode is just better to play solos ZipingYin_GiftFlowers

undone anchor
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Agreed

rich talon
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It’s just simply better ZipingYin_GiftFlowers

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Yesterday I saw a clip of someone, he did a uppercut with skypunch, dashed to the side and did an uppercut with ls in this cancelled slide animation from the left. Looked so damn cool but that was to much for me to handle EVENoseBleed

undone anchor
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If u do katana slide it should be easier I think

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Cuz LS slide uppercut is prolly top 2 slowest in the game 🤔

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It works for sure around 250 FPS tho🤔

feral void
rich talon
undone anchor
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For base ones like grapple bump focus or double uppercut, 75-80 stable works just fine

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If you want to get fancier with like juggles and such 140+ is recommended (for good consistency)

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Some on the other hand are on the higher spec requirement, which is around 300 (DH heavenstep and LS heavenstep for instance)

feral void
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awhh okay ^^

viscid kelp
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Either way I think your 211s looked fine
Some could be ever so slightly more perfect, but they're not holding you back and don't need to be improved imo

That combo just plays around a lot with manipulating how/when attacks hit by timing the W input, and I believe that's your issue

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Like for the second 211 rmb, I held W just for the right amount so that the bot would drop into my rmb hitbox extremely late, giving me enough time to clmb
You can see how low he's allowed to drop before my rmb sends him back into the air, and how I'm essentially finished with the rmb animation once he does get sent back up

rich talon
rich talon
robust portal
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hello i just wanted to know if like me some people has their parry who does not trigger despite not being stuck into another animation

analog hawk
meager trail
# robust portal hello i just wanted to know if like me some people has their parry who does not ...

there's a delay between the moment you click parry and the moment server acknowledge that you parried, indicate by the red flash happens at the end of your parry animation
so even if your parry animation played on your screen but the red flash haven't happened yet, you're still NOT in parry state
this delay increase with how high your ping goes and also affected by your fps because the nature of how the game was coded

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result in the game becomes a guessing game where you have to predict the moment your enemy release their blue and rely on that AND your ping to do a predict parry at the right moment, in order for your parry to success

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unlike in real matches, parry in training room is client-sided so you can do react parries like this - which will NEVER works in real matches

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unless you got giga low ping

acoustic epoch
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can light attacks stagger blue focus charging of the first stage? Whenever I get jumped they just keep spamming light attacks and wont let me blue focus out of it.

wary escarp
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However due to how ping works, you will not go into blue focus right away, you will need to charge up a bit before you get into blue focus state

acoustic epoch
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so its ping again...

cyan falcon
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23 ping!

undone anchor
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Either you and you enemy are living in the server room or we are bound to have ping issues 🤔🤷🏻‍♂️😂

robust portal
meager trail
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check ur keyboard ig

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23 ping is like lower than 98% of global players

robust portal
robust portal
# meager trail check ur keyboard ig

Using my mouse for parry. I don't have problem normally with this button (i use it often on other games). But just in case i will try, I'm just sceptic about it

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We don't have our game recorded by chance?

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And one last thing i wanted to ask is during a fight with another heavy weapon user i try to parry the blue counter attack (the one after you block white attack). Is this possible or the game consider that you are still stuck into an animation to start the parry?

robust portal
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Ah yes is that i just checked

wary escarp
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unless you spamming your attack and animation lock yourself, usually you are recover faster than them

robust portal
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or maybe i have to get myself used to the "crouch cancel"

wary escarp
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Hard to say without seeing a clip

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Usually problem with not able to parry GS/PS stoneform attack are either ping or fps issue, outside of that, it is more of you made a wrong play and got hit for it

robust portal
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honestly i would love to confirm it but since the parry never appear even earlier (since i tried to spam at some point) i wanted to confirm it. but maybe it's an fps drop i don't recall but it can happen when i start playing. I just hope it's really a problem between the chair and the screen so i can fix it lol

wary escarp
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If you are dealing with stoneform, I recommend not spam parry

lusty cosmos
wary escarp
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It will help you at the beginning but your habit will develop and it might hurt you later on

robust portal
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i spammed at the end because it didn't trigger(no animation whatsoever it's like i never use my button)

robust portal
wary escarp
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Huh, if no animation happen then it is not ping issue, but at the same time the input might have been eaten for some reason

robust portal
analog hawk
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Maybe ur button is broken a little

robust portal
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it's a problem i met with spear user but there i wonder if you have just time to react or not? (i'm incapable of parrying spear and i ahve the same problem of not having the parry starting to begin with)

analog hawk
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😭 😭

robust portal
analog hawk
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U can parry most focus blue attacks that has more than one attack if u dodge and parry

robust portal
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okay i see

wary escarp
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I would say you rather read them instead of react to them

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Because if someone weaponize it against you, they can charge into the moment precise goes Ding and dodge out to hit you with non focus

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Because the timing, the flash, the sound and the enemy move at the same time, your brain is telling you they are releasing at that moment.

robust portal
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no wonder why i can't fight them

wary escarp
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A lot of focus in this game is not reactable unless you have mad crazy fps and very low ping

wary escarp
robust portal
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well usually i don't really have a problem to parry other weapons but the spear and staff yeah

onyx loomBOT
#

🎉 | Zantri leveled up!

robust portal
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i mean if i messed up i know clearly it's my fault. i suppose you have to rely more on dodging for the spear and staff

analog hawk
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U can js parry if they spam m1 cuz yk 3 m1 is auto focus blue

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And if u see them charge if it’s a 2 attack focus u can dodge parry or dodge jump parry to counter them

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And if it’s like great sword or pole u can js parry normally cuz it’s slow

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I think spear and staff u js need to parry the ding thingy cuz other focus charge either doesn’t reach you or it’s slow u can js parry normally

analog hawk
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I haven’t met any crazy crazy ppl that did that to me

robust portal
#

thanks all for the answer. I i will try to work of all teh suggestion and test some thing. too bad we don't have any kind of recording for the previous match

cyan falcon
undone anchor
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Depends on how far you are from the server after all 🤔😂

undone anchor
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Spear and staff are prolly some of the strongest focus attacks x🤔😂

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Staff especially

analog hawk
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trust

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they easy to block frfr

undone anchor
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It's not the issue

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U can't react in any case, unless you can predict them

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And since they got 3 different release timings it's even harder to adapt

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Staff especially; vertical and horizontal focus are nearly instant cast aswell

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The easy ones are poleswords and GS TBF 🤔, they are the slowest focus attacks in the game, by a large margin. If we don't count stage 1 vertical focus on poleswords that's a bit faster nor the jade

analog hawk
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uh

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i js keep my distance so i can onlyt get hit by the ding spear and staff

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and it working

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kinda

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🛀

undone anchor
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How are you hitting them if keeping that huge distance? 🤔

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Can't win neutral if you don't engage into it

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Not can't lose it technically

undone anchor
undone anchor
rich talon
#

When u find that Jade, idk what this is called in English. Only know the German names for Jades. Where u can shoot these Wind things. Ahh from a bit far away it’s so annoying. I love that ZipingYin_GiftFlowers

viscid kelp
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which is p much the safest strategy against people who just hold check with a weapon that has range advantage

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If you play say katana into knives and allow the knives player to choose their spacing, you will eat shit in 110 out of 100 cases

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Esp in open field ranged is the safest tool to induce spacing errors in such situations

undone anchor
rich talon
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Guess I need to change my in Game Language to English. The Translation isn’t that great 02lmao

rich talon
rich talon
analog hawk
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yoo

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whay does the statues at imperium do

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tthe 4 ones thrta can move

meager trail
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hit them until all 4 faced outward
the floor will opens, reveal the basement below

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the coffin room

analog hawk
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oh thanks

cosmic charm
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How do you deal with clash in Naraka?

onyx loomBOT
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meager trail
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wdym by clash

cosmic charm
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Like when you're fighting someone and you both just get knocked back

meager trail
#

oh

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then it's a neutral reset

robust portal
meager trail
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nothing special

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there's 2 gold stashes guarantee but that's it

robust portal
#

okay unlike the room with the sword in

analog hawk
#

tabbie

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how do i do the podium puzzle

meager trail
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what's a podium

analog hawk
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the one with the bird statue lookign things

meager trail
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ah

analog hawk
meager trail
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salvation podium on holoroth

analog hawk
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how to do

meager trail
analog hawk
#

oml

robust portal
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me learning there is puzzles in the survival mode😐

analog hawk
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😭

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thanks tabbie

chilly heron
analog hawk
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is there any secerts on this map tabbie ZipingYin_GiftFlowers

wary escarp
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No, I don't think so

analog hawk
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lame

wary escarp
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This is the first map in the game so...

meager trail
undone anchor
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But aside that, nop, there is nothing

analog hawk
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so like

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sm1 said i would get juggled by staff

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u were right

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i js did

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thanks

robust portal
undone anchor
analog hawk
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so like if inor wan ults what should i do

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whats my first plan of action

teal belfry
analog hawk
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he staggers me tho

robust portal
#

If you can choose an area where you have the high ground, they usually don't know what to do

undone anchor
#

Same as yueshan

cyan falcon
wary escarp
#

Also as much as he can move mid air, he cannot hit airborne people XD

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Like the only option for him to kill someone mid air is to throw F, and if he is out of F, he is just sitting there trying to hit you

undone anchor
feral void
undone anchor
feral void
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whar

undone anchor
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It will work against people but not against the bot since it has 0ms delay 👍🤔

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The combo itself is clean

feral void
#

oh LOL so it's unrelated to the grapple?

undone anchor
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But 60 ms is a lot

undone anchor
feral void
#

ic, interesting. thank u

meager trail
undone anchor
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Ping***

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Ty for correcting me Tabbie 😂🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️

feral void
meager trail
feral void
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urg..

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that reminds me. i remember seeing a dev post translation from some months ago regarding servers,

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Dev: The issue is basically a ping issue, we will be adding more server points for people to connect to, also adjusting queues for better match making on pings.

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from ~5/18/25
has this been implemented already and is it for NA/global as well?

meager trail
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i honestly don't even remember if the ''more servers are coming'' was included in the FAQ for global

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if it isn't and only exists on the CN FAQ (which was translated to english but it wasn't meant to be for global) then welp

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i can't speak for NA since i'm on SEA but my ping has only gotten worse compare to before

meager trail
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one year ago my training room ping is 45, i could lower it to 40, sometimes even 35 with ping booster
but now it's 60, 47-50 with the same booster

undone anchor
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Rip

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Mine didn't change if it can help. 🤔👍

meager trail
#

you know what's worse? in matches where my fps decrease my ping can goes over 80

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💀

undone anchor
#

Higher FPS also means lower fps, takao explained it a while back

meager trail
#

you need a coffee or a sleep

undone anchor
#

Fl 🤦🏼‍♂️

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I did it again 🤔😂😂

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Higher fps means lower ms 🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️😂😂😂

lusty cosmos
#

@normal solar @shrewd scroll dojo is starting, please join vc

rich talon
meager trail
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i don't think these two are related

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as for the ingame ms increase when your fps decrease

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it's because the ms showing in game on your top right screen is actually a combination of network delay (''true'' ping) and input delay (which increase when your FPS decrease)

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so when your fps decrease the number goes up cuz ur input delay goes up

rich talon
#

Ok, I thought it was only the Ping, that showed there ZipingYin_GiftFlowers

meager trail
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but anyway it sucks to play naraka on low fps, or high ping, or both, or the worst scenario: low fps, high ping and both of them are unstable

undone anchor
rich talon
#

Yeah Naraka on low fps is a living nightmare Bebu_wow

meager trail
undone anchor
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Yep

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That's me 🤔😂

meager trail
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even if you play on all low and with like 50% render scale

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and using framegen in naraka is suicide

undone anchor
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Yeah

rich talon
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This Game Supports Framegen?

undone anchor
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Quite the opposite

meager trail
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yeah if you run dx12

rich talon
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Ahh ok. ZipingYin_GiftFlowers

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I definitely don’t want to try that out. Bebu_wow Bebu_pizza

meager trail
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the input delay gonna be Matari_Laugh

feral void
meager trail
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atm most ppl says dx11 performs better

feral void
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ah okayy i'll have to try it

rich talon
#

I’ve played 10min of Cyberpunk with FrameGen. Yeah in a campaign game this was the hell. Don’t want to think what happens if your run into a bot, who obliterates you in Casual. Bebu_pizza

meager trail
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alsooo

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someone tested and came to the conclusion that global server tick rate is around 20 while CN is 128

rich talon
#

Wasn’t a higher tick rate better? EGHpepelook

meager trail
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yes

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which means we got it so so much worse

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compare to cn

rich talon
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Unfortunate Zai_cry

meager trail
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Tick rate is the number of "frames" the server sees per second. 64 tick means that the server communicates with the user clients 64 times per second. During each tick, the server receives all packets from the clients, increments the game by 1 "tick" and sends the update out to the client.
128 tick would be doing this 128 times in 1 second.

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and on global we can only send 20 packets per second

rich talon
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Non CN is cooked astolfo_wave_dotgg_femz

meager trail
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this combine with the high ping due to the lack of servers result in your moves doesn't register

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so if you ever ran into ''i parried?!?'' ''i dodged?!?'' situations, yes, it's not you, it's the game

feral void
#

is there a combo that's universally used between weapons? same inputs

analog hawk
feral void
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okiee that's nice

analog hawk
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longsword is v while heng and katana are h but rest same

feral void
analog hawk
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u have to ask the smarties

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like vang and combonicks

feral void
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ic

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thank u

rich talon
rich talon
wary escarp
elder wave
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Just out of curiosity, are people using third-party software to reduce global cooldowns/recovery time a thing? I just had a couple of duels against a dude, that would casually dodge out of toothpicks and various variations of character skill > heng sword horizontal > uppercut. Stuff not even bots could dodge out of. I've played a game in the past, where people used aforementioned software to achieve similar feats, so I've been wondering.

wary escarp
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Also if you duel with someone in songbird, be notice that area is laggy as hell

wary escarp
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It mostly relied on not moving and let your stagger reduced, helping the next stagger significantly less staggery

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There was a video Takao mentioned about this, I'm looking for it

elder wave
wary escarp
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But due to netcode having some... well, tweeking out everytime unstable fps/pings happen in either party, interaction becomes weird

elder wave
#

Hmm, I guess it might have been a latency issue, after all. Though, it seemed way too intentional...

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And well, frequent.

wary escarp
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If you happen to face that person again, it might help that you record a video

elder wave
#

Yeah, I guess. Once again, Thanks for the replies.

wary escarp
analog hawk
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whats the thing that ppl do in combos like when i look at their weapons it goes dark for a sec and back and they arent slapping. whats it for?

wary escarp
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It is a tech to swap weapon after uppercut, due to how the game works, weapon swapping return you to standing state instead of falling, this is use to charge focus faster or do attack mid air

analog hawk
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ou i see thanks

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ill go learn that then

undone anchor
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U discovered matari I see 😂👍

acoustic epoch
undone anchor
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There is a key to sheathe the weapon if that's what u mean 🤔

acoustic epoch
#

when you swap weapons, it usually takes a few seconds, but in the clips I see, it's almost instant

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so I was thinking there must be a shortcut key

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like "O" to instant swap a weapon in your backpack

undone anchor
#

The inputs that you see there are : sheathe weapon, dash, swap into instant focus charge while still mid air👍

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It's a lot of somewhat precise inputs, that's why it's considered a medium difficulty combo👍

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The sheathe is preinputted during the uppercut animation btw, the rest is precise inputs

acoustic epoch
#

oh I see

onyx loomBOT
#

🎉 | Wagyu leveled up!

acoustic epoch
#

thanks

undone anchor
#

Np. 👍 Kylin_hearty

rich talon
undone anchor
rich talon
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Yeah but the ult timing to use in Trios is my problem. And ehm… No combo breaker 🤣

thorny nexus
#

but everytime i go for the second uppercut it doesn’t work and i always end up on his head

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what am i doing wrong?

rich talon
undone anchor
#

80 is too much for combos, as akiio said 👍👍

thorny nexus
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im cooked

undone anchor
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Yep, pretty much 🤔

thorny nexus
#

so i cant rlly combo?

undone anchor
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If u get up to 200 there are some weird interactions that allow for non conventional things, but I wouldn't recommend it. Tryed it once and it was horrible

undone anchor
thorny nexus
#

nice i will now quit AscMad

undone anchor
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Can't help u there 🤷🏻‍♂️

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Max I can recommend is to try smth like "gearup booster" , it could help to have a better ping

thorny nexus
rich talon
#

Quick question. I’ve saw that in prosp3r‘s stream when he was in training. He grapple bumped the enemy in a combo in the air, then after he bumped into him he lagged a bit, could dash backwards and going for a smooth uppercut again. Idk how he did that 😭

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Looked like heavenstep but… different

rich talon
rich talon
undone anchor
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2 min and I check 🤔👍

rich talon
#

Ok he didn’t grapple him in the air tbf. Misinformation Matari_Laugh

rich talon
#

For me I can’t get the motion down. In a Yt Video he parried someone, dashed and did this sprint uppercut in one fluid motion. When I try that, I just do an attack on the ground, even tho I pressed crouch Kurumi_cry

undone anchor
#

I got a friend that does some masty stuff with that and swaps

wary escarp
#

If you have issue with ping and fps, raw neutral people till they die is a valid option

thorny nexus
wary escarp
#

tbh, combo is there to help you captivate on your opponent mistake

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It is a way for you to deal more damage when you catch your opponent

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However if you want to get to higher rank, what you need to work on is how to catch your opponent in the first place

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Practice and perfect your combo mean nothing if you can't combo your opponent

thorny nexus
wary escarp
rich talon
undone anchor
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They are just a way to optimize dmg, but if your raw neutral is good you manage no problem without

undone anchor
undone anchor
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It's mostly timing

thorny nexus
undone anchor
#

After all combos are useless if you can't win neutral 😂🤷🏻‍♂️

undone anchor
#

There is a systematic way of hitting more blue focus attacks in Naraka Bladepoint, getting parried less and reading your opponents better. It’s called holdchecking and you’re gonna learn it in this video.

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Get Naraka Bladepoint:
https://gsght.com/c/x29yp...

▶ Play video
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This as a reference

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Then a few other things, but basically it's this

thorny nexus
undone anchor
#

We're here to help, since this game is pretty difficult to figure out at the beginning 👍👍

undone anchor
#

U got this, for sure

rich talon
undone anchor
#

It's safer Matari_Laugh

rich talon
#

Fair enough Matari_Laugh

undone anchor
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(I'm kidding, don't hurt people)

rich talon
undone anchor
#

Happens

rich talon
#

Everyday… TS_HanakoSmile
Literally no day at work when we have someone normal… AA_Bugcat_Work

wary escarp
undone anchor
wary escarp
#

My fav is mind game

undone anchor
wary escarp
#

Nothing better than catching off their habits, make them return to their uttermost vulnerable state and destroy them mentally

wary escarp
undone anchor
undone anchor
#

Horrible when the enemy does it tho

wary escarp
#

tbh, if you deal with someone who read and respond to you, it is also nice practice for staying calm

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If they're reading, there is a pattern in the madness

undone anchor
#

Indeed

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When you spend like 20 sec dodging each other perfectly is super satisfying

wary escarp
undone anchor
wary escarp
#

it changes the direction of the knockback

undone anchor
#

Funny indeed

wary escarp
# undone anchor Funny indeed

I was thinking the direction of the knockback can be manipulated to reduce the amount of distance between you and opponent so that we can somewhat extend the LS uppercut chain

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However I don't believe that is possible

undone anchor
#

Cuz I recall that manipulation to have some sort of use

wary escarp
#

tbh, for now it's messing with my direction input habit ngl

rich talon
#

is it just the good, old timing in this Game? ZipingYin_GiftFlowers

olive crest
#

Hello, how do you do the stoneform in GS?
and what is stoneform in general?

rich talon
wary escarp
#

Idk how but it seems to eat inputs for some reason

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It is more of a timing thing

wary escarp
undone anchor
#

First one you pressed the direction too quickly, second you cancelled the dash too fast 👍

analog hawk
#

holding a for me while grappling makes it hard for me to hit the cv g cv combo

undone anchor
#

If you both release a focus attack togheter you will also enter stoneform instead of clashing

undone anchor
#

Just quickly at the beginning of the flight before the bump

analog hawk
#

i figured that if i didnt hold a and go no directional inputs i could do it

undone anchor
#

Cntrl + w is just another way

analog hawk
#

ill see which one i like more

undone anchor
#

👍

analog hawk
#

also combonicks

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do yk how much do i need to open for that kurumi skin

undone anchor
analog hawk
#

star

undone anchor
#

A ton

analog hawk
#

😭

undone anchor
#

Considering how it is, it's just better to wait and get it on the steam market 🤔

analog hawk
#

oh

undone anchor
#

It ain't the most beautiful one, hence the price should be low enough

analog hawk
#

126 rn

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should i buy

undone anchor
analog hawk
#

oki

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thanks my financial advisior

undone anchor
#

Let the prices stabilise a bit; skin is still new

undone anchor
analog hawk
#

WOAHH

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😭

undone anchor
#

Opening chests is full rng finding a star skin anyways; I remember Jaan saying the other day that to guarantee it you'd need around 500 treasures?

undone anchor
analog hawk
#

nothing

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i js saw smth i liked

analog hawk
#

i js blew some money down the drain ten

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then

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sigh its ok i gonan get that katana skin fr !!

undone anchor
#

I wish you luck ! 👍

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Kurumi has way better skins that the star skin imo, in case 🤔👍👍

analog hawk
#

ikr but alot of skins i want are limited

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is there a time where they come abck

undone anchor
#

Like the swimming suit kurumi 🤔😂🤷🏻‍♂️

analog hawk
#

how do ik if skins are limited or js stay in shop

analog hawk
undone anchor
undone anchor
analog hawk
#

did it come this summer?

undone anchor
#

I think I saw it before summer, with the zai one? Unsure

analog hawk
#

😭 nooo way imissed it

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boop anyways

undone anchor
#

Boop? 🤔

analog hawk
#

boop

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like the sound

undone anchor
#

Ohh 💡

rich talon
# undone anchor Like the swimming suit kurumi 🤔😂🤷🏻‍♂️

Swimming Suit Kurumi is goated. I bought her last year, abandoned the game for rocket league and was mad then, when there weren’t any outfits in the shop. Load up 100€ on the game when they got back two months or so and read then, that you can pick 3 outfits. Wanted to buy all summer outfits 🤣😭

rich talon
#

Well… I should have read the description first 🤣

silent cipher
#

hi guys is there a trick to get the second c.V after the first grapple with longsword combo?

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cant get it for the life of me 🙁

naive plaza
#

If you send a video we’ll be able to help you more! It’s probably just an issue of delayed inputs most likely if you’re new/learning

rich talon
silent cipher
#

gotta say.. your game graphics is amazing

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and thanks for the video too.. gotta put in the practice

left pasture
rich talon
undone anchor
#

if you are not under the enemy but slightly to the side, you will send them flyins sideways / forward / backwards

left pasture
#

can this combo be done with 211 ?

wary escarp
#

yes

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I think a lot of people prefer 211 in this combo because it is more precise. However I think it is up to references

left pasture
#

alright thank

undone anchor
#

Also true that without the grapple bump you are losing out on a decent amount of dmg 👍

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As u said tho, still up to personal preference

silent cipher
#

whats everyone's preference for 211? the weapon change or the unsheathe method?

grizzled notch
#

whats that shake

left pasture
rich talon
grizzled notch
#

real

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Hab vor 2 tagen mit dem game angefangen bin locked in

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aber naja combat is uhh nicht das beste

rich talon
#

dauert xD

#

Hab auch nur 600 Stunden bei Steam. Was fuer das Game eher wenig ist Bebu_pizza

grizzled notch
#

Hab aktuell 10 stunden

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😭 🙏

#

Meine lobbys komplett verschwitzt

rich talon
#

Hat man am Anfang nicht eh nur Bots drinnen? ZipingYin_GiftFlowers

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Bei mir casual nur bots...

grizzled notch
#

Bei mir sind NULL bots

rich talon
#

damn

grizzled notch
#

maybe 1-2 pro match

rich talon
#

:o

grizzled notch
#

Bin halt gut in DPS aber parry ist sau schlecht

und wenn ich einmal in ner kombo vom gegner gefangen bin ist halt over gefühlt

rich talon
#

combobreaker?

grizzled notch
#

klappt nur manchmal irgendwie

rich talon
#

combobreaker holt dich eig ueberall raus...

grizzled notch
#

dann mache ich falsch

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🤷‍♂️

#

oder bin einf zu dumm

wie gesagt hab erst neu angefangen und fummel mich da grad so rein

rich talon
#

Alles, wo es orange steht, kannst in jeglicher Situation usen.Also wenn du parried wirst und ka in nem Gold Fokus von nem Speer haengst. Oder halt wenn du grade in ner Combo steckst oder staggered wirst waving112 Ausser es kommt ne Viper mit F1 um die Ecke geflogen xD

grizzled notch
#

ja ich spiele ja den ganz unten rechts

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komme ich gut mir klar

rich talon
#

Hab ich noch nicht getried. Hat keinen Combo breaker also spiel ich den nicht xD

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Sonst tilte ich, wenn ich in ner tod haenge ZipingYin_GiftFlowers

grizzled notch
#

vorallem die ult

rich talon
grizzled notch
#

dam

#

ich clutch alles weg mit dem

rich talon
#

Normalerweise rennt man vor Transformern immer weg. Dann sind die pretty much useless

mossy atlas
#

can somebody help me with takeda, wich ability do i use

analog hawk
#

why does it seem like i can never get priority over the training bot bruh

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😭

#

actually harder than real players

undone anchor
#

(do you have a clip of a bot getting constant advantage? Maybe we can think of a few ways to improve togheter 🤔👍)

analog hawk
#

i do

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but i dont have clips :p

#

idk like when he focus charge me i get stagger and then he throws me into a combo but when i do the same he manages to either start charging or m1 so it clashes

naive plaza
#

blue focus attacks cant combo start (except in very specific scenarios usually including really bad ping interactions, but since the combo bot isnt laggy this shouldnt be a thing and most likely isnt whats happening)

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are you trying to hold blue right out of wakeup or dodging first? sometimes you can get caught right again by things if you try to blue hold vs dodging

undone anchor
#

Are you spamming dodge to get out?

analog hawk
undone anchor
analog hawk
#

what