📖┃lore-discussion

[dawn glacier]

https://www.yjwujian.cn/world/#/outlook

[worthy zephyr]

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1fTkST-2_USwwmODtp-eHbkETAjCOs79e

I'm not sure if I saved the translated relationship chart

[dawn glacier]

Incase you are interested behind the culture of some of the skins:
https://www.yjwujian.cn/culture/#/

[empty bough]

Dumb question

But like who is viper trinna get revenge on

[hearty ether]

@tepid tulip

[tepid tulip]

I can’t answer that. If she does have an enemy, it’s not mentioned in the global stories (or I’m blind). I guess the closest thing to revenge was her mother, but lore-wise she’s already killed the Matron

[hearty ether]

Tianhi?

[tepid tulip]

Eh. I’d call them more rivals than enemies. I don’t think she goes out of her way to hunt him down, he just happens to interfere with her plans

[hearty ether]

sad

[empty bough]

Oh so did she just end up addicted to revenge

I just ask cus her VA mentions it a lot

[worthy zephyr]

https://youtu.be/kPTlNQHe7mA?si=c7EIZ3ViAfIQgj8O

[serene current]

hey

[pliant root]

Not sure If this was ever brought up before but

The story of the emperor and his herald concubine that we read about in perdoria exploration

[sick stone]

that's Tessa's sister

also her

[cerulean tapir]

They're both her sister?

[pliant root]

I knew she had to be related to Tessa due to her spirit that you pick up in Arcadia but her SISTER!? that's some hot tea fr

[sick stone]

i think i made a mistake, Jiling Emperor era is long ago (like 1000 years ago or smth) so that herald concubine shouldn't be the same mentioned in the heng sword skin description (which are confirmed to be Tessa's sister)

though their stories are really similar

but different ending ig

[pliant root]

Oh- yeah but still she has to be related to Tessa since Vesper coven is in perdoria (don't take my word for it I still haven't gone through her cultivation lmao)

[pliant root]

Guess the royal family of icuria likes to keep a supply of poison on the side just in case

[sick stone]

😂

[main sky]

Could someone repost the character connections image :3 ?

Believe someone once uploaded a updated one but cant find it back on here

[worthy zephyr]

It's in the naraka lore drive

I can't post images anymore after getting kicked

Drive is pinned

[tawdry saddle]

@shy parrot can you give raikov the xp role

[shy parrot]

Done

Wait

[shy parrot]

You had Tianhai role and noxp, right? Or am I mistaken?

[worthy zephyr]

Yep

[shy parrot]

I'll add the roles like that then. Is there anything else missing?

[worthy zephyr]

a bunch of event ones but it honestly doesn't matter

[shy parrot]

If you can recall which ones, I can add them

[cerulean tapir]

It could still be her older sister but older if you think about it though because the Heralds are basically immortal right? It would explain why their mother puts so much emphasis on Tessa not messing up. Imagine if her first daughter fell in love instead of freeing them and then got betrayed by the mortals 😭 that'd be some juicy story telling

[sick stone]

eh no, Heralds lives longer than human but they do die from old age and they could be killed

Jiling Emperor's cocubine is dead from the DB skin description

[cerulean tapir]

What is old age for them? I knew they could be killed so I supposed immortal was a bad word on my part lol

[sick stone]

hmm i'd say like few hundreds years? like 1000 years at most

[worthy zephyr]

Current events are around Icuria calendar year 1500-1700, omnius was there for the fight against Orochi before year 500, confirmed by Tianhai chapter 3 where Omnius said that even Orochi from 1000 years ago was a less tricky opponent than Tianhai

Tianhai chapter 3 was almost 100 years before current time

[cerulean tapir]

Ahhh makes sense

[worthy zephyr]

Based on fan speculation it is currently icurian year 1574 or 1674

[old dagger]

[gleaming wren]

Guys where is ziping in the lore?

[tawdry saddle]

she's picking flowers in a field not worried about drama

[bold mason]

And

[obsidian frigate]

i dont know she is like crossover character so maybe not much important in Naraka Lore

[gleaming wren]

Ziping is a crossover character?

[sick stone]

yes, from the game 倩女幽魂 aka A Chinese Ghost Story

[obsidian frigate]

ya Ziping, Yoto, Kylin

[vagrant prawn]

what does the red line with coercion mean on the left

[worthy zephyr]

That's what I wanna know tbh. I translated it but I didn't have the context

I still don't

胁迫in Chinese

[sick stone]

basically means Hidden Clan has control over Icuria people

cuz they're the superior race

[worthy zephyr]

It's only pointing to yueshan though

The only thing I can think of is cause yueshan's fam received direct help from Tianhai

[sick stone]

well we do know that the whole Icuria Kingdom could last for this long is because Hidden Clan gave them the mask in the first place

interesting on the part that the arrow pointed directly to Yueshan though

i wonder if the Yue family power (transform into ''almighty general'') was given by them too

[vagrant prawn]

where can i read more lore

[worthy zephyr]

Tianhai was the one who taught his grandfather, that's why they both have transformation abilities

[worthy zephyr]

Depends what you mean by more lore

Outside of the game, I've translated snippets of lore that are only available on the Chinese site or in Chinese versions of the lore

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1fTkST-2_USwwmODtp-eHbkETAjCOs79e this folder also contains event lore that is no longer available

I don't keep it up to date, only certain events

Characters that aren't already in there I don't have, I have some super long ones filled with irrelevant information in psd form

[dawn glacier]

I'd love to be able to read the entire lore sometimes

[empty bough]

Nah don’t tell me tainhai taught yueshan father how to transform. So tainhai has had transformation for longer than anyone else but also managed to be the slowest. Tainhai should’ve been a beast

Most meta of them all

[abstract salmon]

I'm not sure how much this image matches current lore. In particular regarding Shayol - is she really daughter of one of princes? I think her parents belonged to another family that was killed by crown prince's supporters who rebelled against the usurper, which is why the eighth prince (who bloodily seized the throne) made her his adopted daughter.
And the eighth prince, who is the current emperor, is father to Viper, which should have been pointed out here too.

And yes, as written above, characters from collaborations are not embedded in Naraka world.

[sick stone]

there was many hints that shayol and justina are sisters

though technically not ''officially confirmed''

[abstract salmon]

I would appreciate it if you give something to read on this theme.

[worthy zephyr]

It's more updated in that sense

[sick stone]

well mostly from weapon skins/outfits description

[worthy zephyr]

Since it was never explicitly told in current lore

[sick stone]

and their interaction

[abstract salmon]

Like, Im not denying possibility of it, but in current lore, after release of Shayol as an available hero, I haven't seen hints of it.

although that would be fun

Also, can you enlighten me as to what Valda and her father have to do with the Imperial lineage?

[sick stone]

there was many actually

we know from the lore that justina has a sister the same age as shayol

on the description of ''justiciary robes'' outfits of shayol it was mentioned that current emperor looked at shayol but it's like he's looking at someone else, someone who share the bloodline with him

in game when you got shayol and justina on the same team, on the loading screen justina says why does shayol looks so familiar

[abstract salmon]

Roger that, sounds really interesting.

well, I wouldn't be surprised that eighth prince managed to conceive Shayol in his adventures as well.

[vagrant prawn]

it'd be cool if they made the story under character cultivation more like a visual novel haha

[sick stone]

shayol basically was kept as a hostage

cuz crown prince went missing after the coup d'état

8th prince afraid of one day he might come back

[timber mortar]

but isn't shayol like adoptive sister?

[sick stone]

nope, siblings

same mother, same father with justina

[timber mortar]

hmm, always thought she was adopted

[sick stone]

adopted by 8th prince (now icuria emperor) yes, raised as a child of his own

[abstract salmon]

So Shayol is in theory Justina's own sister, i.e. also the Crown Prince's daughter?

huh

[sick stone]

yes

[timber mortar]

is the 8th prince Justina's father?

[sick stone]

no

justina father is crown prince

who went missing after the coup d'état

[abstract salmon]

but then it is unclear why Justina was considered the only granddaughter of emperor (in her history)

[abstract salmon]

No, 8th prince is Viper's father.

[sick stone]

wdym only

[timber mortar]

damn this santa barbara

[abstract salmon]

Yes? Okay, so I read that wrong.

[abstract salmon]

Yeah. Especially in story of Viper and Justina.

[sick stone]

so basically the story went like this:

• 8th prince went to a conquest against desert tribes, lose, run away, stumbled into yushan, met viper mom, do stuffs with her (result in viper), but then betrayed her and ran away with justina mom, they got caught by an avalanche, got separated
• crown prince on the way to search for his brother, found justina mom, take her back to icuria, married her and have 2 daughter which is justina and shayol
• several years later 8th prince come back, accuse his brother for ''siding with yushan witch'', start a coup d'état, burn the whole royal palace
• crown prince went missing, justina and her mom was taken in by valda's father (who was the sea admiral of icuria kingdom, he's on crown prince side) and headed to the sea, to a different country

[timber mortar]

and Shayol stayed in icuria?

[sick stone]

• shayol was just a baby at this time, according to the 8th prince's words she was found on the burned house of someone and 8th prince said all the burning stuffs was the doing of crown prince's force, a ''revenge act''

he took shayol in and raised her, made her one of the golden keepers

[timber mortar]

then does it make Shayol and Jutina enemies? If she serves the 8th prince?

[sick stone]

but we can all see that he's just keeping shayol as a hostage, if one day the crown prince return he'll find out that his own daughter now works as a guard dog for his own brother who betrayed him

[sick stone]

that's exactly the point

[abstract salmon]

And then the Crown Prince, who has gone mad and become a penniless vagrant, is found by Wuchen and Tessa and they try to use him in their plans.
Actually, having met the Crown Prince in the south of Empire, Yueshan disobeys orders and moves to the island of Morus, with orders to detain him, Shayol is sent after him.
And from what I understand, the Crown Prince appears in the Yushan stories by Tianhai.

[sick stone]

yeah but we don't really care about crown prince, he's basically off the picture by now

he went insane or smth

[abstract salmon]

Uh, but Yueshans campaign failed because of him, and in Tianhai's history, he didn't look like madman anymore.

Who knows what Tessa did to him at the coven.

[sick stone]

i haven't unlocked all of tianhai cultivation stories so idk about that, would you mind giving me a screenshot?

[abstract salmon]

If person next to Tessa and Wuchen who looks like Flame Emperor isn't the Crown Prince, then I don't even know who is.

[sick stone]

it doesn't make sense

''my wife may recover in the days ahead''?

the crown prince also doesn't have the strenght to even fight tianhai not to mention overpowered him like that

could it be jilling emperor from thousand years ago? wuchen and tessa somehow revived him by using crown prince body?

[abstract salmon]

[worthy zephyr]

Hmm, I'll take a screenshot of the Chinese version when I'm home

Though showdown lore from what I remember has been mostly accurate

[sick stone]

bruh it was indeed the same person

Tessa's sister (Yu Taizhen) is indeed the Jilling Emperor's concubine who was mentioned in Phoenix Plume db skin and Vermillion Wax hengsword skin

which means if she's still alive by now she's well over 1000 years old

[pliant root]

Wait so how old does that make Tessa?

[sick stone]

no idea

[worthy zephyr]

I believe when they went to capture Tianhai, the fox was sealed in Tessa and she was eight, idk how long it took to capture Tianhai, but Tessa is probably around 70-100 years old?

[obsidian frigate]

Did Zai killed the Ji family except Tarka or something like that ?

[grand flume]

No, most the Ji family is still alive

She just killed a lot of the people who sold her and handled her and stuff

[quick bison]

drakengard was greta too

[stray phoenix]

does anyone remember where the Wuchen and Zai lore is, I remember she hates him for some reason but completely forgot where this is stated and why

[twilit kettle]

Wuchen told her papa that she'll bring calamity to the Ji family so her papa (fake) killed her since she was a baby and give her to nanny. And then her nanny sold her to the killer gang. (Tarka also hate Wuchen because of this reason)
From CN version, Zai story ch. 3, Tarka story ch. 4 + showdown ch. 1

[twilit kettle]

Tarka hate their papa and Ji family because of this reason too. (chinese name Tarka Ji = Ji Canghai, Zai = Ji Yingying)

[lyric idol]

Anyone got tarka new lore in showdown and valda new lore?

[stray phoenix]

Thank uu

[worthy zephyr]

autumn plains normal tarka

[dull valley]

Is the Dragon in the Lantern treasure screen canon to Naraka lore?

[sick stone]

no

[lost drift]

naaaaaaaaaaaa

yyyyyyyyy

[weary solar]

is there a simple lore for kylin im making songs for all characters and its kinda hard to get lore for kilyn and ziping yin

i have wuchen the toist and his 25 days in hell

Kurumi the flower of helioth

and tessa the succubus

[sick stone]

both collab characters so if you want to know about them go check out their original IP

[weary solar]

could you point me towards their ogs?

i haerd about ghost storie

[sick stone]

kylin is from time raiders
aka daomu biji
aka 盗墓笔记

a novel

[weary solar]

thx

is there other characters with no naraka lore?

or just ziping and kilyin

[runic plover]

yoto hime?

[modern flume]

Is Yoto Hime even a person

Girl has helmet for hairstyle and her name isnt exactly a name

Feel like a spirit of some sort

[still island]

She is the human manifestation of the sword she is using, so yeah, kinda like a spirit

[modern flume]

She doesn't wield the sword. The sword wields her.

[obsidian frigate]

So it was the swords decision to go with those huge melons. I appreciate that I've more respect towards GS now.

[livid egret]

Can someone explain akos hu lore to me?

[empty bough]

Pause. Could’ve been her master

if her master in life had a desire for that type of women… and poured those emotions/thoughts/desires into the blade.

that desire could’ve been what made her spirit take that form

[obsidian frigate]

An educated Tarzan, joined Military, find it caping him so left, Feria is obsessed with him, they are in love. A good guy.

[tepid tulip]

Best description of Akos yet

10/10

[fresh arrow]

That’s really interesting!!!

[subtle sky]

📖 Naraka Encyclopedia 🎓

Fusang (扶桑树) 🌳

A Naraka Encyclopedia entry has been found in the ruins of Perdoria! This entry is about Fusang, a place in Chinese mythology located to the east, across the sea, which is thought to have a tree called the Fusang tree.

Fusang was considered to be the place where the sun rises, and the Fusang tree is mentioned in the "Classic of Mountains and Seas". The Jiling Emperor planted a Fusang tree seed in Azoth Peak, believing it could grant immortality.

To learn more about the world of NARAKA: BLADEPOINT, stay tuned to the #🎮┃console-news channel, our special thread in #📖┃lore-discussion, or follow the NARAKA: BLADEPOINT Console Version producer's Twitter/X account here. Discuss what you would like to learn more about in #📖┃lore-discussion, or send feedback to our team in #1266666196552519742, and maybe you'll see a related entry in a future Naraka Encyclopedia entry!

[true plover]

🎉 | jurimor leveled up!

[still island]

I actually tried to find this location on the Perdoria map, but can't seems to find it, which is kinda weird, since the other areas in the trailer have in game areas that is somewhat similar to them

[tepid tulip]

I always assumed this part on the map is on the west

I forgot the name of the location, but it’s often a golden loot zone

Azioth, maybe?

All I know is while the tree isn’t there, beneath the area is a statue that closely resembles the one Lyam was at, with similar vines

[still island]

Hmm... not sure, in the trailer, when they flied away, you can see the shape of the structure below, it's a straight line, leading into a circle area, but when looking at the map, I don't see any thing resemble it

[tepid tulip]

Or maybe it was even where you find the extreme Longsword, since we don’t get to see the outside of there

[still island]

The closet area to that shape is the Jadeite Outlook, which is the waiting area, but there is no underground at that place is there?

[tepid tulip]

Not that I’ve found, no

[still island]

I considered it before, but the area in the trailer is too small to be the are of the red sword

[tepid tulip]

Fair

[still island]

I once thought that the underground area of Azoth was it, but underground Azoth was a prison, while in the trailer, it looks more like an infested temple

[tepid tulip]

Azoth* yes, that’s what I was speaking of the first time

[still island]

The area where Viper and Tessa was fighting is right in front of Honored Temple in Twilight Pass

The area where Feria was can be considered a ruined version of Skygaze Cove

The area where Klyn first stepped out was the gate under Verdant Chasm

And the tomb at the end was definitely the tomb in Imperium

But the temple where Lyam was is nowhere to be found

The only place that somewhat fit is actually not in Perdoria at all, but the Hall of Penitence at Eventide Temple on the Morus Ilse map

Which is weird

[tepid tulip]

Hadi just flew from Morus to Perdoria carrying Lyam, it’s logical

[still island]

Yes, fly through the earth to the underground city

Also I'm pretty sure the location of the red sword is under the Sword Tomb right outside of Imperium, the hole that has a big ass rock right in the middle

And my reason? Well, it's called the Sword Tomb, would make sense that the sword would be there

[obsidian frigate]

who is this ?

[tepid tulip]

Sounds like another Kurumi

[shy parrot]

https://discord.com/channels/750237703739539497/1286185822835703889

[graceful fiber]

this is not sunwing, who's this? o.0?

[tepid tulip]

I think that was the crossover with another game, no?

Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty?

[graceful fiber]

oh

i didn't know that, that was probably before my time xD

thank you @tepid tulip

[tepid tulip]

Honestly same I’m just a geek that looks up everything I missed

[graceful fiber]

i wish naraka has a lore section where everything about each character is explored.... now there's only bits and pieces and i'm still not getting the whole story xD

[tepid tulip]

Mmmmm I think Raikov was doing a pretty good job of that

Compiling all the stories

[tawdry saddle]

i am surprised there isn't

there is so much of it, but it's not available in any menu for reading or even on the official website

[tepid tulip]

If there was, it’s probably on a CN exclusive website

[tribal reef]

looks cool

[tribal reef]

cool dragon

[prime frigate]

I remember that

[haughty atlas]

There is one, but its really out of date

and by really out of date i mean REALLY out of date

[worthy zephyr]

I'm always around to translate Chinese exclusive lore

just ping me

https://www.yjwujian.cn/world/#/hero basically anything here

[haughty atlas]

ooooo i havent seen this one before

https://m.gmz88.com/jiaocheng/242416.html

[worthy zephyr]

Looks to be the same ones as the site

[haughty atlas]

seems like it

[subtle sky]

📖 Naraka Encyclopedia 🎓

Yang Jian (杨戬) 💎

What's this? A freshly printed document? At the top of the page, the words Naraka Encyclopedia stand in fine bold lettering. This entry's topic concerns Yang Jian, also known as Er Lang Shen.

Yang Jian, also known as Er Lang Shen, is a martial deity with a Tri-Point Lance, accompanied by his divine dog, Howling Celestial Dog (Xiaotian Quan).

To learn more about the world of NARAKA: BLADEPOINT, stay tuned to the #🎮┃console-news, our special thread in #📖┃lore-discussion, or follow the NARAKA: BLADEPOINT Console Version producer's Twitter/X account here. Discuss what you would like to learn more about in #📖┃lore-discussion, or send feedback to our team in #1266666196552519742, and maybe you'll see a related entry in a future Naraka Encyclopedia entry!

[haughty atlas]

i wonder what the in-universe explanation for this skin would be

[true plover]

🎉 | Adidal leveled up!

[tepid tulip]

Is The Original Maiden and Moonbane one in the same?

[shy parrot]

24E. Please fix the game on console. The game is broken. Always lagging and delay to parry, dodge, movement, combat.

Can't switch weapon during heal, can't pick soul loom during combat. Most can't do nothing

But you expect it from us to buy things in game.

And yes....challenges can't be completed with controller.

[idle lark]

Please use channels appropriately. If you have feedback for devs, you can make a post in #1266666196552519742 or message #🆘┃official-support

[shy parrot]

Really? I don't know where to write actually. So many complaints from many people. But naraka doesn't care about us. All cares is to make more money from outfits and other things. But the game is barely playable. Ty anyway I will complain there.

[vague notch]

Im sort of confused on everyone’s alignment? Who are the “good” /“evil” people in Naraka’s Lore?

[sick stone]

no one are good or evil
or you could say all of them are both good and evil

[vague notch]

Interesting

Aside from Kurumi

[hot canyon]

zai is the goodest

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1168202676354433064.png?size=160&name=CuteZai

[uneven bone]

So why are they fighting for the mask of immortality

[sick stone]

cuz

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-more-power-power-power-up-spongebob-squarepants-gif-22777710

[uneven bone]

Valid

[abstract salmon]

Is there list of all character dialog at load time?

[sick stone]

there isn't

[vague notch]

Its weird tho ive read _ Some_ of the stories. Seems like all the characters know each other to an extent.

If i had to really say whos evil i feel like its Tessa and wuchen

But i thought sunwing was supposed to be good so idk

[sick stone]

nah

sunwing and moonbane are just 2 sides of a coin

[stray phoenix]

Wuchen ain't evil he just starts alot of drama

Tessa isn't explicitly evil but can be more cruel than Wuchen, at least if we're going off of the story with the profecy about the drought

[vague notch]

Do you know a bit more of their lore

[stray phoenix]

Wuchen decided to save the boy while Tessa was telling him to kill him to prevent the prophecy, both tried to do good but Tessa is more of a bigger picture type of gal

[sick stone]

well for sunwing and moonbane lore you can just read it on naraka wiki

[vague notch]

Okie.

[vague notch]

Mmm i think remember reading somewhere that she fed orphans to a demon and then tried to seduce it so she could seal it away?

Im guessing thats the demon thats in Takeda?

[vague notch]

I c

[stray phoenix]

I don't remember this :/ haven't read her cultivation stories fully yet, I've read Wuchen's fully tho

[vague notch]

I like lore and reading stories , i guess i really should try to dig deeper in Narakas lore. Especially since there arent any naraka tubers out there that focus on it

[sick stone]

you must be mistaken

[vague notch]

Yes i think its on her cultivation somewhere

[stray phoenix]

Check out @raven orbit's yt channel for voice overs of the cultivation stories

[vague notch]

I could be? I read that like last year but i thought she was allowing a demon to feast on orphans

[sick stone]

she stole the spear which got a demon sealed inside and pull him out, put him into takeda body

but there's no ''orphans feeding'' stuffs 😂 though i wouldn't be surprise if that's what she did

[vague notch]

Thanks! Will do

[raven orbit]

this is tessa's lore, yes. covered in my voiceovers.

[vague notch]

ah yis so i was right!

[sick stone]

basically the hidden clan has killed alot of ppl, mortals are nothing more than insects to them anyway

[stray phoenix]

was hidden clan synonymous with heralds?

[sick stone]

yeah, heralds are literally ''herald of hidden clan''

[vague notch]

See idk any of that

Guess i have something to listen to on my ride home

[sick stone]

eh all that sunwing and moonbane and hidden clan manipulating mortals are quite boring

the stories between characters on the other hand is interesting

[vague notch]

Watching one of your videos! Love your music taste girl! ❤️

[vague notch]

Usually always is lol!

I like that they have started adding like character specific voicelines when you defeat someone

[raven orbit]

thank you ; w;

[sick stone]

during loading screen too

but eh, not enough

i mean we don't really get anything out of those

aside from information that we already found out before

[vague notch]

See that was there for a while but i think its like.. cut off on xbox? I didnt start hearing more of the convo until i switched to PC

[sick stone]

idk i'm pc so

[vague notch]

Yea a couple of people would like say something and there would be no reply. Or say something in return to something someone said earlier and its just like

Out of place

[sick stone]

oh so they did said something during loading screen?

[sick stone]

this might be just bcoz of you don't know about the relationship between them

[vague notch]

Maybe. I know Kurumi and Takeda have dialogue back and forth now when before u just heard kurumi (on Xbox at least.)

Uhmm i think the monk talks to yueshan and so on

Also i think the dialogue between sheyol and akos is cute lol

[sick stone]

mhm, monk been helping the yue family for a very long time

he taught yueshan's grandpa the transformation technique

[vague notch]

Ngl i wanna know more about him

Cause he seems really like conflicted for a monk 😂

[sick stone]

yeah lol

he was a herald

[vague notch]

Like he portrays himself as a typical monk but then seems to love bloodshed and battle

[sick stone]

but after seeing what mortals could do with the mask of immortality he was afraid

and thinking this is wrong

[vague notch]

Oh?

[sick stone]

to just let ppl use the power of the mask and commit mass murder

so he stole it

and ran away from hidden clan

got caught later though 😂

[vague notch]

So hes actually a good guy

Gewd

[sick stone]

yeah i'd say so

[vague notch]

I will have to relay this to my friend thats new and maining him

[sick stone]

his goal is to destroy the mask i think

well, more like ''his goal if he won't get corrupted by the mask''

lots of ppl thinking they could do good with that kind of power in their hands

but in the end

welp that's not what happened

diff characters seek the mask for diff reasons

[vague notch]

@primal jay

Whenever ryu gets here

[primal jay]

That monk is gonna get corrupted by the mask istg

[sick stone]

would be interesting if he does

cuz among all characters that are seeking the mask, only him doesn't have a plan of using it for himself

[primal jay]

Considering what that mask does to people

I wouldn't be surprised if he gets a twisted sense of 'cleansing'

[sick stone]

is this a hint?

[vague notch]

This would be a great way for him to become corrupted

Like needing the power to use it to bring “peace”

[primal jay]

Why does that remind me of another character

[sick stone]

the boss omnius we fight in showdown is the leader of hidden clan and also his mentor

[primal jay]

Za and a heer

[sick stone]

and look what the mask has done to him

[vague notch]

So… we’re just getting into playing pve mode because theyre super new so ive tried to help them master basics xD

[vague notch]

But i think we did just fight him last night but we dont know much about pve yet lol

[primal jay]

Look I'm trying my best 😭

[vague notch]

So interesting to know

[sick stone]

there's #👾┃showdown if you got questions about pve

[vague notch]

Theres #🔱┃weapons-combat and #🙎┃character-guides if u ever have questions

Theres a guy in there, Takao he usually answers everyones combat questions and has videos.. @primal jay

[vague notch]

Ty!

[worthy zephyr]

Tianhai has a lot of Buddhist lines where he speaks about self sacrifice

Like I will go to hell in stead of others

我不入地狱谁入地狱

I have conveniently forgotten the rest

Anyway I believe in my man Tianhai

[stray phoenix]

One thing I've been wondering about him is if his voicelines are as funny in the original CN voice as they are in English

But I feel like he's probably more of a stoic in CN voice, as opposed to EN funny one liners vibe

[worthy zephyr]

He's a pretty serious guy in cn

pretty emo

Man is all business

His two moods are kick ass and depression

[stray phoenix]

Balanced as all things should be 🙏

[worthy zephyr]

If I had to describe him in a single word, Tianhai is a dad

[vague notch]

How about Tarkas CN and japanese voicelines?

He doesnt sound like hes all drunk lol more like a hyper main character from a fighting game

[worthy zephyr]

I mean a drunk guy just sounds like a hyper main character from a Chinese fighting game ngl

[sick stone]

honestly his voicelines doesn't sound drunk at all

[stray phoenix]

meanwhile the en voicelines are all booze related

why did they do that to him damn

Zai too, she sounds so different

[worthy zephyr]

His entire story is about getting drunk isn't it

Man can't handle being sober for 10 seconds

[sick stone]

zai EN voice makes 0 sense lmao

[worthy zephyr]

I feel like zai is fine

She's kinda learning to feel

The cn voice

[sick stone]

you get that out of zai EN voice?

[worthy zephyr]

I've never heard her in en

Never will

[sick stone]

😂

[vague notch]

En zai seems like the uhm

[stray phoenix]

Don't, it's terrible

[vague notch]

Whats the anime archetype??

Like a tsundere?

[worthy zephyr]

Tessa is also weird

[vague notch]

[stray phoenix]

like a mix between the worst parts of tsundere and yandere

[vague notch]

She kinda has a smoker voice

[sick stone]

tessa eng voice is more quirky than sexy and seducing

[vague notch]

[sick stone]

but i like her that way more

[worthy zephyr]

The baby voice too creepy for you?

Ngl it's sketchy as hell and I could never understand it

[sick stone]

i mean, i got bored with the archertype of ''fox yokai seducing man to f them then sucks out their soul''

[vague notch]

I do agree with this though, shes very awkward until she starts talking about murdering people.

[worthy zephyr]

Lmao

[sick stone]

eng tessa is sassy and funny

literally this emote

[vague notch]

I really like her respawn voice line the “Like a phoenix from the ashes! Errr em.. or a fox!” When i first heard that the scene of the fox just looking at her like “ really… im the one that caused your respawn.. and you give credit to a bird?” Played over and over in my head lol

[sick stone]

also i think it fits her even more than her CN voice
cuz Tessa stories are more like ''eh sure i got a plan but first let's have some fun''

instead of ''i have to do this for my tribe/clan''

[hot canyon]

zai EN voiceover is goated

sadly they nerfed it

no more "mmmmmmmmmmm cinnamony" when munching healing berries

[uneven bone]

wow tessa really fed a bunch of ophrans to a demon to eat

[sick stone]

so weird bcoz her cutivation story in english is an entirely different story with the chinese one lol

[uneven bone]

whats it like in the chinese one?

[sick stone]

there's no orphans stuffs

kusaka takamori returning from a party, he was abit tipsy, tessa disguised as an innocent girl who hurts her ankle and takamori offered to help, tessa attacked him, get his blood and use it to unseal the demon that was sealed in the kama spear, then put the demon inside takamori's body

wuchen caught up with her, asked where's the demon and she answered, also saying that takamori won't be alive for long, but she got her eyes on the ''perfect candidate'' to hold the demon

which is takeda

i wonder if the very first version is indeed the ''orphans'' story but then they think it was too extreme so they remade it but forgot to change the english version

[stray phoenix]

did they remove the only en voiceline of hers that I actually liked 😭

[tawdry saddle]

Why would they remove that...

Now I want to taste the healing berries

[uneven bone]

why did they change it?

[sick stone]

🤷‍♂️ no idea

[uneven bone]

not gonna lie I like both of them, the eng one feels a bit looney tunes but with bloodshed while the chinese one seems fine

[sick stone]

the demon is not just any demon though, it used to be a person, leader of a small clan that belong to hidden clan, but somehow he betrayed them and do something to turned himself into a demon, losing himself in the process, then again somehow got sealed inside the kama spear of kusaka clan

tessa's sister (yu taizhen) was assigned to marry this person (when he's still a person ofc lol) but she refused

she married Jilling Emperor later

[grand flume]

Abandon the path of Tessa , Tarka is the true underrated king of en voice actors

Most people don’t like it but I literally obsess over it

[obsidian frigate]

Is there any Lore about how Valda lost one of her eye or she not blind one eye ?

[clever girder]

I don’t think she’s blind, just the Pirate thing that 1 eye is covered so they can switch to that eye in very dark places and can see perfectly fine

[stray phoenix]

I actually like Tarka's eng voice, just I think he's a bit too drunk out of the eng voice actors tho my fave are Tianhai's and Hadi's ngl

[rose pewter]

I have to do 8 Blessings Quest for Tessa cultivation, I was at 2, just did like 3 or 4 of them and am still stuck on 3? Instead of 5😭

[shy parrot]

Naraka: Bladepoint Encyclopedia -> https://tinyurl.com/NarakaEncyclopedia

[quasi lily]

There is Takeda’s cosmetic item I think it’s called kabuto cat???

It was given to him by Kurumi

They are somehow connected

[dawn glacier]

Kurumi is Takedas student

[quasi lily]

Bruh

Nice

[quasi lily]

I wanna know more about Takeda’s lore and such

[grand flume]

Grumpy old samurai takes everything to seriously kills his best friend and is cursed with a demon he hates . Takes Kurumi as a student as she is an Onmoyoji ( aka anti demon people )

That’s the basics in a nutshell

[quasi lily]

Is there a website where I can read it by myself?

[grand flume]

@quasi lily I think this is the closest thing

I’m not 100%

[tawdry saddle]

U can also read some about it in his cultivation pages

[quasi lily]

I do it though

But I still need to unlock all his cultivations 😭

[twilit kettle]

here's chinese version, u can use your web browser to translate it >> https://www.bilibili.com/read/cv16734053/

[quasi lily]

Thanks

[twilit kettle]

He also appears in Kurumi (aka Hu Tao in chinese) and Tarka (aka Ji Canghai) cultivation as well
Kurumi >> https://www.bilibili.com/read/cv12644152/ + chapter 4 https://www.bilibili.com/read/cv16762645/
Tarka >> https://www.bilibili.com/read/cv12694926/

[quasi lily]

Thank you

[cerulean tapir]

Anyone have Cyra's chapter 1 or 2 done yet?

[verbal canopy]

yes

[glossy dirge]

Who is he talking to?

[cerulean tapir]

Matari I believe

Here's 1 and 3

[stable canyon]

2 and 4 for Cyra, and the description of the accessory.

[mint wasp]

oh

[cerulean tapir]

Rin tease?

The quality is awful but the lightning gives me hope

[sick stone]

it's a dude

[glossy dirge]

Who is tht dude??

[sick stone]

🤷‍♂️

[glossy dirge]

Possible new character coming then in the future..... thought it was wuchen but likely not

[cerulean tapir]

They better not take my kunoichi away from me 😭 I wanted her to be lightning based so bad

[civic shore]

in the lore viperning is fighting who ?

valda cui ?

or like the tuto Tienhai ?

[fossil canopy]

😮

[night girder]

why did viper kill justina mom

[sick stone]

mommy issue

[night girder]

[vernal nymph]

[foggy pivot]

Cyra: The Prologue

Cyra: Chapter 1

Cyra: Chapter 2

Cyra: Chapter 3

[stray phoenix]

more hadi and lyam gift giving lore

[sick stone]

so the revolt of 8th prince was ordered/supported by the king...

[wary bobcat]

how many noble families are there in Icuria

We got the Jis, the Lius

[sick stone]

multiple

but there's 5 known as the big 5

the Ji and the Liu was 2 of them

[wary bobcat]

Do we know the other 3?

[sick stone]

iirc they does get mentioned somewhere in character lores/items description

[wary bobcat]

Gotcha

just speculating what oldbie lore characters we're waiting on

We still have Rin chasing Takeda from Helioth, a member from each of those 3 families.

[sick stone]

wot

Rin is not from Icuria

[wary bobcat]

sorry the wording as ambiguous

What I was saying is that we're missing Rin, and a member from each of the remaining big five families.

So that's 4 potential characters tied to older lore.

[sick stone]

iirc the Wei family is one of them

we got Shayol

and the Yue too

[wary bobcat]

I wonder if we're gonna get the a hero for the Azure Dragon and Vermillion Bird kind of like how Shayol and Akos represent the Turtle and Tiger respectively

[wary bobcat]

Oh they are

[sick stone]

yeah the Yue is definitely one of them

[wary bobcat]

Who were the Yue?

[sick stone]

yueshan bruh

😂

[wary bobcat]

:OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[sick stone]

and the Shen too?

so we got all 5

[wary bobcat]

I thought he was the Crown Prince so it was different?

[sick stone]

huh no

yueshan aren't royal blood

his family is the general family

[wary bobcat]

oooohhhh

TIL

[sick stone]

oh and also the Cui family

now we got 6

😂

[wary bobcat]

Isn't Shen considered Valtheca?

and that's outside of Icuria

Cui defected from Icuria right?

[sick stone]

yeah

and Wei family is literally destroyed

[wary bobcat]

But Shayol still stands there and...there's Justina I guess

[sick stone]

yeah tbh i don't really remember which family belong to the big 5 and which one doesn't

but yes there is a big 5

[wary bobcat]

So the big 5 would be Yue, Wei, Ji, Liu? Does Cui or Shen count because 1 defected and the other is technically Valthecan

Also Ji is similarly destroyed since Zai killed a lot of em and Tarka was working around to lessen their influence around Icuria if I recall correctly

Or is Ji just massive

[sick stone]

huh Zai killed lots of them?

[wary bobcat]

Did you get that far in Zai's lore?

[sick stone]

isn't it in her story she barely touched her forgotten past?

she killed some ppl yeah but they're not Ji

[wary bobcat]

She killed that entire auntie family or something and hung their organs

[sick stone]

the auntie actually not her real aunt

[wary bobcat]

not just her sex work handlers and her annica master

Oh

then I guess things we lost in translation

[sick stone]

yeah it's just her babysitter

[wary bobcat]

gotcha so Ji is still alive and thriving and Zai didn't really touch the family

[sick stone]

yeah Ji is massive

[wary bobcat]

I wonder who the 5th family is, I wonder if its actually Cui

[sick stone]

plus even though Tarka hate the whole family to gust but he won't let her do that to them

cuz he actually returned to the family (his extreme outfit description) and on zai release cinematic he's stopping her, wearing the same outfit

[wary bobcat]

gotcha

very neat

So all the families have basically been covered. I wish one of the master lore guys here could correctly point out the 5th family

if it is Shen or Cui then the big families have been covered

hmm

Does Tarka's power embody the Vermillion Bird or is that fire power something else

Because I don't think we have anyone who represents Vermillion Bird and Azure Dragon yet with their powers

[sick stone]

just the fire power
big 5 got elements power running through their blood

[wary bobcat]

ahh okay

So

Yue is Earth, Cui is Water, Ji is Fire, Liu is Metal, and Wei is ??? Wait aren't turtles water

Who the fark is wood element then

Justina is also Ice... which is kind of weird since that's technically water

[sick stone]

it's a different kind
4 divine beasts (azure dragon, vermillion bird, white tiger, black tortoise) is different from 5 elements (fire, water, wood, metal, earth)

fire: tarka and zai (ji)
water: valda (cui)
wood: not here yet (?)
metal: lyam (liu)
earth: yueshan (yue)

[wary bobcat]

So we're still waiting on a Wood manipulating Hero

Do you think it will be a noble family or just some rando like Akos?

[sick stone]

must be one of the big 5

since this is hinted since forever and confirmed with the release of lyam

[wary bobcat]

So Wei's family?

[sick stone]

wei isn't one of the big 5 ig

[wary bobcat]

Oh fr?

[sick stone]

technically destroyed

[wary bobcat]

Okay so there's another family that took their spot then?

[sick stone]

idk if wei even one of the big 5 from the first place, it should be, but yeah could be like what you said

after they're gone someone else took their spot

but the thing is

shayol is not actually from wei family

she's justina's younger sister, which means she's royal blood

[wary bobcat]

oh

So Wei has been technically destroyed, but the survivor isn't actually of Wei blood

[sick stone]

yes

shayol was found after whole wei family got destroyed and they just assume she's the last of the bloodline

but more likely it's the emperor/8th prince's plan

[wary bobcat]

So could be one of those comebacks where someone actually still lives from the Wei family and they are the last to be able to channel Wood energies.

[wary bobcat]

Planted a sleeper while Wei was getting destroyed

lol

[sick stone]

now that you mention this i realize

wei family all gone in a fire

and they're supposed to be wood

[wary bobcat]

Sounds like the Jis took part in it

lmao

But yeah we supposedly are waiting for a Wei bloodline wood users or maybe not a true noble, but of noble blood could be a half sibling or something

[sick stone]

mhmm
i mean lyam with his metal manipulating power literally come out of nowhere

[wary bobcat]

So we have Rin Lightning Kunoichi and a Wei Wood Qi user so far.

Divine Beasts, we don't have someone channeling Vermillion Bird or Azure Dragon

[sick stone]

technically speaking akos aren't white tiger

[wary bobcat]

He isn't?

[sick stone]

he's just... a tiger

need to seperate THE WHITE TIGER (a divine beast) with a tiger

[wary bobcat]

oh

he's just a common tiger

[sick stone]

yeah his description literally just ''raised by tiger, wild as an animal''

[wary bobcat]

lmao

So technically we could have another tiger channeling hero

[sick stone]

unlike shayol who was handled a shield with divine power of the black tortoise

technically speaking, at this very moment, among 4 divine beasts there's only black tortoise showed up

but if you consider their extreme outfits cannon then we got all 4

[wary bobcat]

Ahhh

hmm

I don't consider their outfits canon, but I'm not sure if 24E does

[sick stone]

the thing is shayol on her basic already got black tortoise (one of the divine beast) power

which is her shield

but her extreme is the black tortoise armor, which, with the shield, is a pair

while other 3 (yueshan, feria and akos) need the extreme outfits to be considered ''possessing divine beasts power''

i think 24e was like ''wait we got divine dragon yueshan, divine bird feria extreme, we got a tiger but he's not divine but eh who cares, let's make the divine tortoise and slap them tgt and call it a collection eventhough lore-wise it doesn't make sense''

[wary bobcat]

I swear they sometimes lazy, there's a really well thought out vision and now the director is just seeing $$$

[coral lynx]

Maybe this has been answered before, but....
What is this for?

[tawdry saddle]

sentimental

[neon ravine]

why is wuchen a viper simp

[sick stone]

well uh

[neon ravine]

Hot

[still island]

Wuchen's a Viper simp? I thought he was a Tessa simp

[neon ravine]

@still island listen to his dialogue with viper in party

[indigo bridge]

Hehe

[brittle dock]

Okay sorry if i dont read all the lore stuff.. please dont crucify me
but i have to ask..
are WUCHEN and TESSA really SIBLINGS?!?!
if anyone knows, please tell me before i start losing sleep..

[stable canyon]

No, they're not blood-related. They are "martial art siblings", meaning that they've been training under the same "mentor". If I'm correct, at least.

[brittle dock]

ohhh that makes a lot of sense

good thing they're not blood related cos i always thought they've been flirting in their voicelines

thanks i wont lose sleep anymore

[stable canyon]

You're welcome

[glossy dirge]

Can I get the link to the character lore?

[glossy dirge]

Wuchen clapped some Tessa CHEEKS

I was also wondering, do they update each characters lore story? Or they don't really make any added continuations?

[stray phoenix]

Most of the updates for heroes post cultivation appear in legendary item descriptions tbh

There's also showdown cultivation lore, some heroes get extra stories when new showdown stages are added

[feral torrent]

hi

[shy parrot]

Hii

[void saddle]

They do. Sometimes when new characters are released, new chapters for related characters get added.

[neon ravine]

@sick stone so according to the lore it REALLY is a mommy issue

[sick stone]

you thought i was joking

[neon ravine]

Yes

[modern yoke]

There is a lot more cohesive lore to this game than I thought.

[modern yoke]

Is there a comprehensive wiki type thing or are the pinned links pretty much it?

[shy parrot]

pretty much what is in the pins

[modern yoke]

Thank you.

[rigid flame]

Do anyone have showdown story? like in docs pdf or something i think the story quite interesting

[raw wyvern]

Why does Wuchen not have cooler skills and is regarded mostly as a support, when his lore is so “main character” like

His story def sounds like a mc cultivator novel

Akos is cool as hell and his lore was like I’m just chill like that

And Tarka is just drunk

They get cool attacking skills, sure

Both their skills and ultra are attacking, very fitting

But Wuchen, bro

Why do you even have a 1 time use teleport as an ult

[tawdry saddle]

his skills used to be much more boring lol

his offensive ult is new

it used to be just a teleport

he is a support because his F heals his team's armor and his ult gets them away from a losing fight so they can recover, he supports the team by healing and pulling them out

there are characters with different playstyles, meant to fulfill different roles in the team

frontliners who initiate on the enemy, followup heroes who follow up with the initiator, supports who stay more in the back line, then there's damage dealers, CC heroes... not everyone is an offensive damage dealer character

[raw wyvern]

Yeah I know, I’ve been saying this shit since before the update

Glad they gave him his Showdown ult

[raw wyvern]

Sure, but I’m talking abt lore and stuff

Like viper

She also shouldn’t have the skills she has

She is blind

But her ult can’t even see matari in invis

Even though she doesn’t rely on eyes to see???

Could have given her an x-ray vision ability

[keen onyx]

Technically blind but also a vision from moonbane. And moonbane obviously can’t see/detect people behind walls, in matari’s invis or crouching in bushes. 🤷🏻‍♀️ xray vision/infra sight would make her more viable pick, but then, we have challenger status and bells all around as well as gate of yang buffs to reveal enemy locations for certain areas.

Edit. And as her ult charges to 100% she has voice line: The eye opens and in English she sounds like The eye openszzz 🐍 little snek sound kinda to it and during her ultimate massive eye is glancing around her, so I think her skill/ults makes perfect sense lore wise.

[tawdry saddle]

all i can tell you about wuchen from lore is that he is supposed to be extremely powerful

as is viper

and yes that matari counter makes no sense

but i guess it's for gameplay purposes

she even says something like relying on your eyes to see makes you blind

[raw wyvern]

But she is still blind though

The Blind Blademaster of West Yushan, Viper Ning's very blood has long been suffused with lethal poison.
She stands atop the precipice of all mankind, her blades ever at the ready.
As beautiful as she is deadly, her eyes shall never behold this world until the time of destiny is nigh.

And if she only uses Moonbane eye in her ult

She is basically blindly fighting nearly all the time, no?

[sick stone]

yeaaa it looks like you don't understand the ''blind swordmaster'' stereotype

eventhough they're blind or like, not using their ''mortal eyes'' for whatever reason, they still sees better than a normal person

[raw wyvern]

Usually the blind swordsmen are actually blind though

We say “see better than a normal person”

[sick stone]

usually a blind person can't be a swordmen

[raw wyvern]

But it’s usually explained somehow that he uses his other senses

[raw wyvern]

In a cultivation magic fantasy Chinese mix blend bla bla, they can though :)))

[sick stone]

so why are you questioning viper's....

[raw wyvern]

Cuz she can’t see, so why would her ult need to “see” Matari in invis?

[sick stone]

cuz they're both magic and magic is not real and that's the interaction that the devs think how it should works?

[raw wyvern]

If we are talking about her ult, which is manifesting “the eye” of moonbane, it’s just literally realising too much yin energy in her body

[raw wyvern]

Fair enough

[sick stone]

like before valda can literally turn off tarka v with her abilities and it sux

so they removed that interaction

[raw wyvern]

Hahaha real?

[sick stone]

yeah

[raw wyvern]

Nah, but it makes sense

[sick stone]

not in the game context though

[raw wyvern]

Why can he even turn on fire? I haven’t cultivated him yet

[sick stone]

not healthy for the game either

[sick stone]

https://tenor.com/view/magic-gif-26166638

[raw wyvern]

He is literally just a drunk guy, who throws booze on himself and lights himself on fire

[sick stone]

he's the heir of Ji family, one of the biggest families of Icuria Kingdom

with the power of fire element running through their blood

[raw wyvern]

Why does Zai have blue fire?

[sick stone]

mixed with something else

when she got kidnapped and works for Annica, they probably done something to her

ig

[raw wyvern]

Ok Ji family magic and kidnapping, got it

So is everybody human or part human except for Tianhai?

[sick stone]

tianhai is not even human

[tawdry saddle]

that's funny

extinguished hahah

[sick stone]

among all current characters there's only... feria and hadi are human w/o any form of ''magical'' abilities

[tawdry saddle]

but probably not balanced

[sick stone]

well yeah that's why don't logic the game

[tawdry saddle]

i even made that joke when i water speared tarka out of his ult as it ran out by coincidence

cooled his ass down

didn't know it used to be a gameplay mechanic hahah

[raw wyvern]

I thought the everybody excerpt a few were human

Just had magic abilities

Tian hai is def not human

[true plover]

🎉 | Aero leveled up!
| Extra rewards were added for missing levels
ℹ | Level up messages can be disabled for the guild with owo level disabletext

[sick stone]

well it really depends
you can't consider hidden race ''human''

as for ''human with magic'' idk if you could still call them human

[raw wyvern]

I thought the part being only humans can wield the mask for some time, cuz the Heralds die too quickly

[raw wyvern]

In the context of this world

[sick stone]

well if so then most of them are human yeah

[raw wyvern]

That’s why Wuchen got bullied as kid, cud he was part Human

[sick stone]

part hidden race too

so

[raw wyvern]

Yeah, very mc archetype

And for 3 years he was support only

[sick stone]

they don't really established where did our chara got their magical power from though

[raw wyvern]

After that, he remembered, that he was meant for MC stuff and got his new ult

[sick stone]

though most of it could be trace back to hidden clan

[sick stone]

meh wuchen was always the big brain type of chara

the teleport was supposed to enlighten that

[raw wyvern]

The Unfogiving my ass, you were scheming since day 1 and still haven’t got shit to show for that

He was even drawn out like

[sick stone]

yeah kinda scam when we need like 3 years for him to do what he did in his trailer 3 years before

[raw wyvern]

Naraka even started a comic with his story( that they axed after 2 chapters)

[raw wyvern]

Exactly

At least Akos is cool in lore and in game

[sick stone]

i mean they tried

lol

and we got what's on the ads

so

happy?

this kinda remind me about the Mordekaiser rework on league

[raw wyvern]

Yeah

I only use guy I got the mythic skin from my 2 chest anyway

:))

Back to lore discussion

Did they add new lore or does it always stay the same,

[grand flume]

Basically, the ji family have fire in their veins / blood . This does NOT mean they can manipulate fire at will , but it means that every Ji has some relation to fire. It also means they forge fire weapons.

Tarka is kind of just a prodigy and can do whatever he wants in terms of fire . In order to cultivate his powers further he literally just chilled in a volcano —

The less canon and more fun way to look at it though is that he drinks so much booze that alcohol runs through his veins . Making him completely flammable

[cold epoch]

hello guys, is there any lore about Zai & Shayol relationship? because it's a bit confusing, in Shayol's cinematic trailer it's like they're enemies and Shayol want to capture Zai, and in the in-game voiceline too they're like enemies, but in the recent The Witcher cinematic trailer collab, it seems like Shayol want to help Zai escape when Zai got captured, so are they enemies or not?

I feel like they're still enemies because Zai is like an assassin right? and Shayol is kinda like a police if you will, but I still can't understand why Shayol want to help Zai escape in The Witcher cinematic trailer

[sick stone]

She doesn't. Geralt take the quest from Tarka, finding Zai for him, Shayol want to capture Zai and put her in jail so she just wait and steal from Geralt, that's what the vid was about.

in cannon lore they both working for the Icuria royal family, Shayol is like the CIA, Zai is like special ops doing the dirty works in the shadow but Shayol ofc don't know that, that's why she went after her cuz Zai just killed a bunch of ppl who's ''innocent'' in Shayol's eyes

[cold epoch]

AH RIGHT, I just rewatched it, and there's a scene where Zai & Ciri kinda ganged up on Shayol, i missed this scene on my first watch

[hot canyon]

idk zai and shayol seem like besties

[sick stone]

yeah akos took yueshan from her so it's understandable she wants to ruins someone else's relationship

[fierce thunder]

Feria is often associated with the cat, why is that?

[cyan quartz]

cat?

not really

she just the cat girl of the game

she likes cute stuff so i would guess she likes cats

feria is fully human

she is no magic weirdo typo stuff

so she just a normal girl who likes cats

[sick stone]

where did you get this from...

[cyan quartz]

probably the cyberkitty skin and the new outfit kill effect

I would guess

[sick stone]

fair

[fierce thunder]

Exactly

[sick stone]

but eh i'd say it's just the ''generic cute'' stuffs

[fierce thunder]

because her name in Chinese sounds like 'cat' ? not sure..

[sick stone]

i mean she got the whole panda theme, costume and mech

[sick stone]

that's true

shen miao

[fierce thunder]

Long ago, someone told me that in the Chinese version, Feria constantly says 'meow'

[sick stone]

tbf viper was literally snake based but she got snow leopard ears and tails so

[cyan quartz]

but its something normal

like a girl

• cat

sells well

it's really just to appeal to people more

[woven crag]

who has the best lore ?

[stray phoenix]

well everyone's lore is connected in one way or another

it really depends on what story resonates with you the most

personally my faves to read were Wuchen' lore, Ji family lore (Zai and Tarka), and Hadi's lore

[woven crag]

i saw a map somewhere that showed this and i instantly got confused lol

[woven crag]

i will return with more knowledge

[grand flume]

My favourites are Tarka and Tianhai. But I feel like the best written out is viper

[woven crag]

viper has a real cool design so i hoped so

[grand flume]

I really like her lore . And she has a really cool partnership with Justina

Them two even have two short cinematics

I feel like the most fleshed out lore is probably Wuchen though. He has connections one way or another to almost every character

[night girder]

is there a website that compiles the lore?

[grand flume]

@night girder this is probably the closest thing

[night girder]

thanks, i'll check it later

[peak tundra]

what relationship does ziping and wuchen have? its giving unrequited lovers...

[sick stone]

ziping is a crossover character

her lore doesn't have anything related to canon lore

[peak tundra]

just a head canon

[woven crag]

i think tessa and wuchen are lovers

[sick stone]

they are not

[stray phoenix]

It's more like Wuchen's the student of Tessa's mom

Iirc

Didn't she have part of his soul or something

[woven crag]

i see, it explains voicelines together i suppose

[stray phoenix]

They work together on many occasions, Tessa is flirty of course but she's like that with everyone lol

She's like that with Yueshan too kinda

[woven crag]

yeah that’s true , with yueshan i always assumed it was like teasing lol

[wary bobcat]

It's a multilayered pun. Miao is her name, but it also means meow, can also mean clever/wonderful, can also mean to aim.

Wife (who is Chinese) told me Feria thinks she's so clever and witty with her wordplay because it's like gunplay

[wary bobcat]

They're martial siblings meaning they trained under the same master or school. Wuchen was trained and taken care of by Tessa's mom (Korvine) which he feels indebted too due to his impure blood (he's half mortal and half herald) and that every other herald looked down on him with disgust and wouldn't acknowledge him. Wuchen and Tessa kind of have a frenemy/sibling rivalry situation. They kind of hate each other, but are willing to work together when their goals align which they currently do.

[woven crag]

Thank you for the break down. it’s so alluring their relationship. it feels like more but it’s a bond that’s solidified. frenemies are always a good trope to do if done right. their voicelines in game are playful yet i can see the subtle sibling dynamics.

[wary bobcat]

Yeah Tessa is just flirty with everyone. There is Wuchen lore in Tessa Cultivation Story where ||he gets stepped on by Tessa and hates that he enjoys it slightly||.

They're technically not blood related, but Wuchen is very much focused on his goals and knows better about Tessa's mannerisms.

[woven crag]

ooo lol Wuchen built different

https://tenor.com/view/ohh-gif-13342724363430229217

[wary bobcat]

But yeah, they're not at all romantic. There's just a lot of tension between the two because of the shared past and intentions behind their shared goals

[sick stone]

korvine is not tessa mom

[woven crag]

that tension is what may have lead me to think that. their new skins that are dropping is a pair for them two as well

[sick stone]

well wuchen and tessa has been getting ''couple'' costumes since forever

[wary bobcat]

Is she not? I must be mixing something up then

[sick stone]

though it was never confirmed but yeah we do know wuchen has a thing for tessa and vice versa

[woven crag]

my confusion is somewhat justified. raka is trolling and gaslighting me a bit

[sick stone]

nah, korvine is just another martial sibling to wuchen

[wary bobcat]

Gotcha

[sick stone]

he call korvine sister when he fight her in showdown

[wary bobcat]

Dang I missed that, then again I never fought Korvine with Wuchen

[peak tundra]

So true wuchen

[night girder]

man oof culture wuchen

[lime jungle]

Does Ning actually killed Justina's mom?

[neon ravine]

wew wuchen

THIS is why tessa has no shoes

[sick stone]

we don't know what really happened that day, but it's true that they met and after that ning walked away, alive, justina's mom is not

[gloomy ferry]

If naraka means hell does that mean for the br we are fighting in hell itself? What kind of world is the game set in cause all I know is that it’s based on ancient china

[sick stone]

it's not hell itself

originally there's just morus isle map, there's a rumor that the mask of immortality gonna be there so our heroes either come looking for it or was draw in on their own journey

but then now we got holoroth and perdoria so ig any place the mask appears, spooky stuffs happens

like when someone dies, spooky roots grows and drag their body into the ground

and they can even revive after death using the power of soulblooms

viper voiceline "this resurrection thing is not a blessing, it's a curse, but we need this curse''

sooo not hell itself, but definitely not a ''normal place'' of the living world

[neon ravine]

It's A hell

Buddhism has many hells

[sick stone]

except there's no buddhism in this game 🙂

[neon ravine]

There's no ancient China either

[sick stone]

yeah the place was called icuria not china

[low mist]

Isn’t tianhia Buddhist?

And his master at the end of the showdown story

[runic plover]

tinfoil hat Could be some sort of unreliable narrator thing where these are all the souls of sinners cast down to some sort fantasy version of the first Buddhist hot hell with the pretext of finding the mask but in real killing each other, and being brought back to life for another round.
Would explain why everything is ruined and abandoned with only the heroes being around.

I mean aside from the in-game lore this is what happens in survival mode.

[meager mauve]

Is wuchan is best

[neon ravine]

Yeah tianhai I'm pretty sure is based on a vajrayana monk

With some bonus references to a specific real life figure whose name i can't remember, but he was known for poetry

[sick stone]

keyword ''based on''

[neon ravine]

I mean, duh

[sick stone]

exactly
so there's no ''buddhism'' in the game, because even if there is buddhism it will be ''the game's buddhism'' not ''our irl buddhism'', because it was ''based on'' real life not literal ''real life buddhism''

therefore the ''naraka hell'' of the game is not ''naraka, the Hindu equivalent of Hell, where sinners are tormented after death''

our heroes are not dead yet

[sick stone]

so the answer to this question (where it all started) is no, in the game's context our heroes are not fighting in hell itself

they're just fighting eachother on whacky places where spooky stuffs happens due to the magical power of the mask, which could even resurrect them after death for another round but these places are still the living world

''hell on earth'' you could say

[fierce thunder]

Has Lannie been mentioned at least once in the lore?

[subtle sky]

📖 Naraka Encyclopedia 🎓

Swarm (一窝蜂) 🔥

Another Naraka Encyclopedia entry is here! This time, we are learning about the Swarm, which is based on a weapon that was invented during the Ming Dynasty.

The "Swarm" mentioned in the Wubei Zhi (武备志) came in many types, from a three-shot version to a hundred-shot one. In NARAKA, hold the right button to charge up and fire all the rockets in one fell swoop!

To learn more about the world of NARAKA: BLADEPOINT, stay tuned to #🎮┃console-news , our special thread in #📖┃lore-discussion, or follow the NARAKA: BLADEPOINT Console Version producer's Twitter/X account here. Discuss what you would like to learn more about in #📖┃lore-discussion, or send feedback to our team in #1266666196552519742, and maybe you'll see a related entry in a future Naraka Encyclopedia entry!

[wild summit]

it looks much more detailed than in the game

[grand flume]

It’s scary to think of a battle where there are hundreds of rapid fire rocket launchers set up

[tawdry saddle]

it actually shoots arrows, believe it or not

maybe filled with black powder

[grand flume]

It says rockets above on the actual official narakapedia

[tawdry saddle]

it might

but if you look in game

it's arrows

that's what i meant

[grand flume]

Oh ya

I think they’re like

Metal javelins or something

[haughty atlas]

chinese uses 火箭 to describe both rockets and fire arrows, the deciding factor in english is whether or not gunpowder is used to create propulsive force i think

[tawdry saddle]

interesting

so it's a language barrier

[haughty atlas]

im thinking about it

i think in game the projectiles use some sort of fire-based propulsion

[haughty atlas]

maybe the reason is that the invention of fire arrows in china was directly related to the discovery of gunpowder, so the development of rockets was more of an organic evolution, maybe?

[obsidian frigate]

Tessa is a Demigod right ?

[sick stone]

no

she's from hidden clan, their tribe sealed a ''divine fox spirit'' into her body so she was able to use the fox spirit's power

but she's far from anything close to a ''demigod''

[obsidian frigate]

so just the vessel of a Deity.

[sick stone]

it seems like they actually did something to tamed the fox spirit so tessa can just be herself while having that power w/o any consequences

but yeah tessa is not a fox or the fox itself

also i wouldn't call that fox spirit ''a deity'', its ''level'' is much lower than that, more like a youkai

takeda's furen is kinda the same thing

[obsidian frigate]

isnt Fox Spirit a Deity in Chinese mythology.

[sick stone]

eh no

just a yokai

[empty bough]

so the only goof that’s actually almost a deity is Tinahai?

Everyone else just has some sort of yokai powers

[sick stone]

nope, tianhai is just another person of hidden race
his power is, realistically speaking, more like ''techniques'' (he taught Yue family this transform technique)

[empty bough]

[sick stone]

the only one that fits the ''vessel of a deity'' description is Viper

[empty bough]

Si you telling me out of all forms he could take

He took the form of the slowest thing he could think of

[empty bough]

WAIT FOR REAL

[sick stone]

bruh she literally got moonbane inside her, one of the two gods of creation

[empty bough]

basically I’m asking if he can control his form since it’s a technique

[empty bough]

I thought she was just a follower but aight bet bet

They better buff viper to be a reflection of that godly power

[sick stone]

after the yushan matron ritual, now she's something else

[sick stone]

probably not, the thing with techniques is you gotta learn and practice it until you got absolute control over it
tianhai is a monk, from a monk ''clan'', he learned how to transform into a vajra his whole life
when he teach Yue family this technique they choose to transform into a clay/rock soldier, because their family are all soldiers

that's why despite it being the same technique, tianhai can't transform into a soldier while yueshan can't transform into a vajra

and omnius outclasses both of them cuz that dude got like 10 forms or more

[empty bough]

GYAT

wait so all the mfs we fight in showdown are different versions of the same dood

[sick stone]

not all of them but yeah, look at the name

[empty bough]

Pause.. sorry if this is dumb question

but if monk only knows how to become vajra how can he train others to become something else entirely

[sick stone]

https://tenor.com/view/magic-gif-26166638

i mean the technique probably be like ''close your eyes, let your qi flows and think about what you wanna become most''

so poof, monk to a bigger monk and soldier to, well, bigger soldier

[empty bough]

bet

so we can have a big snuu snuu

[empty bough]

Bet so monk theoretically could take a diffy form for solos…. That would be dope

Anyways thank you for a moment of your time and answering my questions

[sick stone]

if he practice it for like 1000 more years, yeah ig

[empty bough]

I meannnnnnn my boy got time

Also is yueshan immortal then?

[sick stone]

the reason omnius was able to take on so many forms is because he did something sussy about it

you could say ''normal people'' won't be able to do it

only him

[empty bough]

However much time it takes that family he can do it in under that amount of time. Once you have experienced doing something once and an example of another plausible form it shouldn’t be that much harder

[empty bough]

So normal people would pick a form and stick to it unable to take on any other shape

it’s like it’s a reflection of your soul unchanging

[sick stone]

nah, tbh he doesn't really ''transform'' into a rock soldier, more like he's wearing a rock armor

[empty bough]

This makes it so much cooler

[sick stone]

tianhai was able to punch yueshan's father (or grandpa, i don't really rmb), who's on the rock soldier form, and breaks it

[empty bough]

Was tianhai transformed for this

[sick stone]

nope

[empty bough]

DAMNNN

so tinahai is lowkey a final boss… but when it becomes playable type trope

[sick stone]

they was sparring and like, yueshan's father/grandpa use the technique to create a layer of rock armor (not fully transformed) and tianhai do 3 punches

and break the armor layer

[empty bough]

I imagine it’s like the yueshan f

[sick stone]

yeah it has something to do with the chinese 5 elements stuffs

metal, wood, water, fire, earth

''normal hidden race people'' can only choose 1 to practice and be good at it, cuz even with their long life it's still rare for someone to get to the ''max level'' of 1 element, not to mention 5, and also there's conflicts between elements, metal > wood > water > fire > earth > metal, so like when you level up on this element, your other element gonna decrease

but omnius gets it all

he's like the avatar lol

but he gets it through some ''sketchy'' process, that's why tianhai said omnius is drowned in madness, cuz no one even dare to think about doing what he's doing not to mention ACTUALLY doing it

and hidden race also taught human this ''elements control'' technique
so we got the Ji (fire), Yue (earth), Cui (water), Liu (metal), wood is missing though

[real lava]

How do I join?

[empty bough]

OUUUUU THATS fire

[meager mauve]

Akus hu back story

[wary bobcat]

Wood is the Wei family right? Shayol isn't Wei by blood because it's implied she was adopted or planted there.

Most likely they're going to have some sort of Wei bloodline person come back who controls wood.

I pray for the release of Rin and a Wei with real noble blood flowing through their veins

Will finally close the loops with all the old lore

[night girder]

did justina ever realized that shayol is her sister?

[spare ibex]

This sounds like fan theory. I'm reading the stories of the characters here and the skins, there are no mentions that they are from the same family.

I think family ties are just the case with Tarka and Zai, and maybe Wuchen and Tessa, the way it's written suggests that they're both brothers too. When you use them both on the same team, with the Japanese dubbing, Tessa he makes fun of Wuchen and uses "Wuchen nii-chan", term for brother in Japanese.

[tame mica]

I'm trying to get into the lore but I think I still don't understand the basics
What's a herald? Why does wuchen get bullied for being halfblood?

[abstract salmon]

Naraka: Bladepoint Saga - Wuchen Comic

[abstract salmon]

#📖┃lore-discussion message
there are noticeable hints of this in the game. And Shayol is character that was written into the story much earlier than he appeared in game 🙂

Btw there's an old scheme thats a translation from chinese.