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Hard to aim Zai Skill for mobbing
The dash is hard to aim sometime
But still easy to compare with humans :/
Imagine as ez as topaz
Oh nice the bonus 3 bosses spawn at the last location with no delay
that is so nice
any good toxin build for this new update?
Defuse Mark builds got more reliable.
@fierce light iyo what are the chances of a zai poison build?
I don't see it going too well.
- Takes a while to get to her Aegis-break, which is the main thing you want to spam for Poison builds.
- Can't use Martial Skills during her Ultimate.
- Cyan Fang animation is long as well.

so what hero is good for poison now?
Matari still BiS for it.
i dont really know how to play matari lmao
well i'll stick with zipping and akos
and wuchen i feel still good
You mainly just use Skill to activate her Flash buff then spam her Aegis-breaks. Ideally you want to use her Skill whenever Poison Blast comes off cooldown to reactivate it quickly.
Hello guys. Everyone have build for Musket in PVE mode (adventure)
?
woooooo finally
me need actual build with potential
help pls guys
@fierce light maybe u have build?
watch top solo valda then you have the build
where i can see top?
in your rank tab in showdown mode
new mode best for EXP farm
I'm lvl 1 and can solo the next stages
Builds didn't really change much with the update, just have an extra slot. Potentials are still the same.
u have preivew build?
thank you
maybe need pin this site for players
in this top
man give me general sap fr
It's kinda buried at the bottom of the pins
ow
24 year
m ybad
my bad
thank you
hm. i dont see on this site valda build for musket
The Thunder Scorch build
Ice Bomb is now a mastery jade though, so you can put whatever you want there
@fierce light what do we want on general sap?
still windfall x2 + health + attack?
Tscorch
Yeah pretty much
Damnn 3rd moderation
Damn, quick
wasted like 1.4k frag and 700 cystals
I'll leave it at this
I haven't done the math on it, but I can imagine the gains are pretty small at that point
True
need help, what is the point of element mastery soulajde
It's an extra Souljade slot basically.
Giving you an attack that either deals increased Elemental Accumulation (fewer attacks needed to activate Elemental Burst) and/or provides healing.
understood
Wow that was a long run
Yeah I missed a lot of SS due to killing them too fast
Usually can get it though by auto parrying Scorch's wraiths
Have to be careful not to interrupt his swarm by downing him
not many zai spammer so surprising
rip
You can hold Vertical to fly faster.
Anyone up for Peak for the 3 clears?
I need to do it solo lol
?
The Challenges or the Peak Bonus this weekend
The new mode for the SS rating.
The boss dies way too fast before u can generate the SS rating
SEA must be sweaty
Two Justinas just speedrunning
Would there be a reason the breakthrough material not showing up on the weekly?
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Petal fury > sap on tarkas scorch??
Friend says they only have 8 weeklies instead of 12
Sap is pretty bad on Tarka. Very slow animation and less damage than regular counterstrike.
Should be one you get from it
Oh, idk is there game updated?
Yeah they have the new update and everything. Would not being at 100 give them 4 less weeklies?
Just realized I have some expired souljades I can convert to the mastery ones I'm missing
But which should be good?, i don't see any option rather than petal but seems very slow to fill up the thunderbar
Petal is good for short damage windows
There is no other viable jade rather than petal?
Or you can go the Cannon one for a bit more damage, but both minor changes.
where the blazing cyclon drop ?
From the Event Mission
sorry but i need more details what event exactly ?
In the mission select there's a big banner at the top-right for it.
Also some quests listed in the seasonal challenges area.
oh i just saw that xd ty dark and sorry for bothering you with such a silly question but you are the master for me here 🙂
@fierce light with the changes, is the weekend bonus better with Peak or Topaz?
Topaz. 1.5x drops per run, if you beat all the bosses.
Got it. Oki, will need to find another group to complete my last two weekend bonuses
dark what is the build to use with bow now ?
is it the same as site ? and what about the extra slot?
Just use Pestilent Pool/Desperation in the place of Toxic Arrows last build.
pool is already exists in your build so use desperation too ?
and btw did they remove dmg to boss ?
Nope
I legit just can not figure out why I can't find my account to my discord
it is there for the jades i have with it but i can't find it when i recast
Do it on first boss.require only once for reward..no need to maintain ss
Like I'll click bind it and it pops up a QR code and then brings me here but won't bind it in on PSN so if anyone got advice let me no please cause I'm stressed haha 😅
maybe u already have it on ur other sub attributes
Yes, whichever Souljade you're missing.
yoooo anyone down to run a bit of showdown duos or trios doesnt matter 🙂 run that for a lil bit then perhaps run some ranked rounds after as well? or we can do whatever mode after that if you happen to have something preferably in mind currently on my own wanting to find a random or two thats down to do a cople of things :3
the new subjade on ranged is crazy, with this babe scorching build is crazy
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the only thing is for good timing u need to gamble a bit, but build is crazy
New souljade?
New souljade follows the same rules with rare attributes as normal ones?
Great
So we do another
Attack, iceblast double windwall I reckon? For ice that is
yes
Damn the new event again healer is needed ☠️ we barely made it with justina zai matari
@chilly kestrel u slaving the new event?
Did ingame naraka mail send something after u bind
bro has to carry ever since he released on the inferno
not yet 
It's not me trust
care to elaborate?
Not really required
Boss aren't hard
@rotund forge you guys want some help?
Later bro at night
It doesn't give me an option in my mail 😭
#❓┃help ur best bet
Yes but only to lv20
I soloed the challenge. It's even easier with Trios
No you need the red crack thing in the weekly mission
Do the event mission
Its give you 2 of them if you reach SS rating
If you can’t reach SS rating normally use a build with thunder charge and spam defuse the bolt
any tips on how to get SS ?
bring thunder surge kylin and keep defusing the thunder 
you dont have to hold the SS the whole match
wanna join me ?
but we need to maintain it also
last boss on challenge is omnius void
I'm on SEA
kk np
what for
we were able to get SS while fighting scorch
you just need to get it once ?
u don have to maintain it
for event completion yes

well I can parry as long as I have good ping
otherwise up to the 2 randoms to carry
just spam parry even with bad ping one will go thru and then u can just afk rest parries
parry
wht if we don't have thunder scorch ?
Wait why u don't have
Didn't u farm for it
damn I was relying on ur kylin
@chilly kestrel come slave with us
or i guess i can jungle in NA too but ping 150 or something
Yes you can, but you'll need Breakthrough Aura to increase your level cap after 20.
Lol I tried Tessa Bow in there and Scorch didn't even get a chance to use his swarm. So I had to make up for it by defusing/dodging the next bosses.
i stop attacking him well beforehand so someone doesn't kill it or break his aegis by accident

Next reset though I'm not holding back
yeah everyone should have the mission completed by then
which jade did you add to tessa bow after update?
slave us ?
Desperation/Pestilent Pool
Zai actually feels somewhat decent on Ice. Skill + Vertical Charged Attack is enough to proc Ice Blast.
Thunder Scorch works on her as well
really ?
thts good to know
which else should I build then ?
But yeah, would hold out on building anything till Curios are announced
If you haven't built it yet, I'd wait till next season
Likely going to nerf HydroFlare after they see Curios in action.
i want lotus builds back even if they clutter the screen 
For anyone curious about which Charged Attack(s) to use on Zai:
-# Binding Serpent = Stage 1 Horizontal Charged Attack
-# Ground Crusher = Stage 2 Horizontal Charged Attack
-# Vortex Chain = Vertical Charged Attack
@rotund forge find 3rd b4 knight we will complete event
@fierce light use ice build on zai is good for getting SS on new event ?
or ice build or justina ?
SS just requires your team to not keep getting hit and dodge/defuse/parry attacks.
so dmg doesn't matter
No.
zai is the pick then
Clearing it too fast will make it a bit harder to reach, but still possible if your team can evade
How do I do that
Are they doing new things to piss us off or what
It'll ask you to consume one when you reach the Exp cap.
I have all heroes maxed to 20 except zai
But what is that aura thing?
How do I get it
You get 1 per week and 2 from the current event.
Not something you can rush through, so should spend them wisely.
I'd say level your primary farmer to 22 this week and then save the rest.


Can anyone help me? I want to make an electric jade
What should I do? 
You can imbue it with 5/10 Thunder Essence to make it Thunder-Wielding if that's what you mean?
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nice 
Six channels using the electric combo, I don't know 

@rotund anchor buddy were you in my game rn ?
lol i forgot topaz had powerful bosses now
this u?
was just trying some random build
which one are u
almost ran outta time 
alannis 
oh xd
you done with the mission ?
yeah
hm okay
invite again
lmao
why does ur justina look like a zip
i was eating dmg like u had zip xd
presumptive much
My fastest run this week:
I'm going to assume you're probably talking about Thunder Counter? You can run the Souljades:
- Thunderpull
- Thunder Counter
- Element Surge
- Thunder Charge
- Draco Stride
- Incineration
For the most used Thunder Counter build right now.
ima leave mine with just 1 rare 
need to do cyan fang and sap too, 2 rares too expensive 
good stuff I'd prefer dmg to boss atp since it has high value
whts the avg time ?

not my fault we had kurumi instead of yin
seriously we can't even survive without yin
i just had 12min run and i thought that took forever 💀
but u guys out here doing 17min runs 
Around 5:30 with randoms.
took me like 8 mins solo kurumi
Tscorch is really strong rn
when trios u wouldn't get 100% uptime on tsurge with kurumi but u would still outdmg a Justina
i've found like pistol mataris and stuff in random que for this event
like first inferno level builds

did they change this? i swear it cost 10 before
Probably because it's a purple
ahh that makes sense
shivam died out within 2 phases
Had to do it with some noob kurumi with no dmg
had my first decent team 6min run helps alot to have SS longer than 1second xd

Honestly, it seems better to go 1 WF on Mastery for Ice Surge build. You'd gain 2.2% more Ice DMG going for a 10th Windfall, but lose 6.1% non-Ice DMG.
For Scorching builds though it seems to be worth since Burn tends to make up ~90% of your damage.
perfect 
also f justina, i swapped to kylin and average run time dropped 2min
lol
doing carry dpssss
Justina still pretty good in there. Breaks the boss's Aegis fast.
wish the kylin ult would carry over to next stage
Yeah, he would be a monster
I end up having to save it so I can fight 2 bosses with it
Ye 2 justinas to break the aegis and tscorch to drain that boss HP
Even in SEA only a few has tscorch build lol
Tessa gets the job done too
and alot of poison zai
wish i saw more feria, saw one really good first day of patch
haven't seen one since like 2.5 season
variety is the spice of life
i wonder if they are just gonna add curios for all missing heroes this season
they added 5 curios last season and that was the short season
they've had time to make more of them than 5 this time
if they were doing them..

Yeah, there still hasn't been an event to unlock old Curios yet
Hmm
Your telling me there’s a chance for poison zai
i think it's just newer players who only have poison builds 
They just have to make Miasma Boon work from Defuse Counterattacks and it would work great on her.
When would you go two rares then?
On mastery jade
Or specifically when would you double WF
Doesn't matter as long as you have Attack and Ice Blast DMG on every jade
Putting it on the mastery jade would make it less flexible between heroes though
would be sweet
it's the best showdown event ever
90 fatigue in 6min, AND it doesn't have annoying bosses or phases like inferno
it is a nice change
even if drops are terrible for 90 fatigue, its still fun and it burns fatigue.
Tbh I think if it's out too long, there's just going to be people asking for more fatigue.
When the main issue is the poor fatigue consumption of other missions. The Topaz change was a step in the right direction though
that's why it unlocks near the end of the week, so people don't burn it too quick. while people who don't use all their fatigue can finish it
did you do the topaz as trio? were the new bosses super scaled?
indeed
I didn't get around to trying it solo, but they did hit pretty hard. They weren't Eerie though, so no tricky movesets.
Got a pleasant amount of loot despite running it with some newbies so we didn't have the full 9000 Luck unfortunately
i just did solo runs and u can definitely feel the difference between normal and those new bosses
oh in trio you don't have to duo them
you don't need mobber anymore when you reach them
that'll make it faster
We kinda just went 2 mobbers at the start, then 2 bossers mid-way through.
alright, gotta try it next time easy battle has enigma domain
solo is nice thought, do 3 camps at start then throw justina ults on boss spawn and hit chain crush
all 3 dead in seconds

Lol dang
Must not have finished the UI with the new Mastery Slot
i was already asleep 
today?
Anyone want to run gold key Topaz? I still need 2 more runs and I finally got home
I completely missed topaz since the new mode literally was only boss fights.
and the travel to beat the adrenaline every fight was superb. Could've done that long ago.
@fierce light free today? I just need 2 people with gold keys to burn
@balmy coral do you have time for two Topaz games?
I can join
I'm still at work sadly.
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@quaint girder
Enigma Topaz Gold Key for weekend bonus need one more
Damn and I thought Friday we’re supposed to be popping
Think most burned their fatigue already
trying to get random queue teammates to stop dps for SS rank when its still A rank at last boss 
wish they made SS rank for normal mode count since thats easy/fast to solo SS
Pretty easy to get it from Scorch's swarm. Just auto parry it
If not that then you can focus purely on defusing/parrying while your teammates do damage
ya i only have the frost surge build, so im doing a run where im just defusing my own ice lmao
last game was 2 justinas and bow temmy so there was just 0 chance of going for it thru that dmg
too easy to burn all fatigue in new mode
all that stalling and i couldnt keep it SS right before it last hit 
nvm u only have to have gotten SS at one point, very thankful
Gotcha so weapon specific like Staff or Dagger who have single users aren't as bad whereas general user jades like Cyan and Sap you'd want to be more judicious
Not sure where to ask this but what are extreme relics
Likely best to not invest in mastery jades more than regular ones
Sounds like something in #🧨┃rift-traversal
Still gonna invest in my Assassin's Lunge it just needs a reroll from mod to Windfall
Or rather I'll wait till next Season
how rage/DMG work? does it work well on Zai?
+1 peak thunder help 
who is best for thunder wielding & poison wielding enigma peak? finished ice wielding with justina
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velocity untold feels so nice

Doesn't matter if you justina max ice build then use her
How would Tscorch with sap scale on Feria?
Cos apparently, nunnies sap feels good to use too.
I'll have to try cos zai doesn't really feel good and apparently she's better on Ice then thunder as per zero
Zai ice is weird but alright
She weird on thunder scorch too
She is BiS burn but build burn rn will make inferno build pain
She can do well on build which let you defuse from time to time like thunder charge
So in ult u defuse thunder and get her special charge attk back
but needing 5 of those breakthrough aura for upgrading to lvl 25 is too much
we have 17 heroes
in showdown now
how ?
So ppl can't not hoard top 3 badge by end of season
By end season there will be same ppl who will be top 3
did anyone try zai with yoto curio build 
there is a top 3 badge also ?
Yes
Lol that is a weird build
when did we get tht ?
She needs burn dmg
It was already like that when you get top 3 last paragon
might be
imagine the raw ult dmg 
Then you combine poison jades with skyfire 
There was a CN guy who did that
CN does everything tbh
Defuse on zai doesn't seem too rewarding as per zero too
She's kinda underwhelming on release.
She needs dedicated potential lol
This potential doesn't work for her kit
Skyfire buff isn't enough 
Skyfire is best for her but without enough potential buff can't do anything
Didn't know they enhanced the bosses in topaz too
3k luck
If they keep these drops I'd keep playing
where did u get that jade i dont have it ToT
Maybe I've deconstructed it lol
kurumi feels so good after Sap damnnn like the best update for me.
Her low elem accum is not as painful as before cos it's rewarding with Tscorch.
how many frags ?
I'm not sure maybe 15 or so
probably nirriti or peak
btw if u have those unopened jade box u can get it there
I'm not sure bout pool drops anymore.
is it choice ones ?
Ye iirc it was there same with general sap
That's where I got my sap
that's with easy battle buff or not?
with buff OFc
topaz will never be that generous
i don't think there will be
lets wait
and watch
by new year there def should be
not unless they make new ones
I mean- it's not as bad as before.
showdown only jades
i mean all these sap, benthic halberds etc are epic jades in BR mode too
yup def
if you get a combo going in herald with these jades
a legendary armor is off with one combo
Ohh yeah u saved my time thx a lot

np 
guess im not gonna level up zai for some time
22 justina, ziping and kylin this month 
was kylin lvl 21 rage conversion bugged?
who does the best damage with the ice build atm after Justina?
or whats the tier ranking of the characters atm?
@fierce light They made a mistake, **Akos **is only getting Rage/Dmg 10% for his Hero Enhancement instead of 75% increase Martial Skill Damage.
***Matari ***and ***Wuchen ***are correct.
Yeah
Somewhere between Akos and Ziping. Hard to say really since it varies with Skill level. Curios around the corner too which will affect the meta.
@fierce light what was your lowest time for the event ?
guys did anyones known how am i still got alot of souljade in enigma topaz even tho im already reach 2400/2400 fatique?
it happaned to me twice is that somekind of grid?
There's a blessing bro
I think
4:45. I reckon it could be much faster as I had a random that wasn't even level 100.
Hmm maybe the double drops still works at max fatigue.

jus got 5:15

Hey Dark what’s the difference between Defuse raging flame and Defuse flaming strike? @fierce light
Raging flame just seem comparably worst than flame blade
Raging Flame has a slightly stronger Burn (+12.8%) and does slight damage on the initial hit in an AoE. Flaming Blade only applies to what you hit next.
So in your opinion not worth the dmg increase? I was testing a zai burn build
Defuse Burn still pretty bad atm
The shorter duration makes it benefit less from Hydroflare, unless you pre-Soak the enemy.
man im lost as hell after not playing the game for 2 weeks what am i supposed to do when login now
Weekly Quests first.
Event going on right now so you can do that next. Burns fatigue quickly.
are builds still the same
toxic arrow is gone
do i just go raw damage for bow builds now
build thunder seal for unlimited F

Still the same, just put Desperation/Pestilent Pool in the spot that Toxic Arrows was and equip it as your Mastery Jade.
whats with the new level 25? will i only have enough mats to level one to 25?
wht are the jades for tht ?
prob less than tht
every week you're gonna get one
throught weekly quests
thts one lvl
this is meta rn ?
ehm...not sure but maybe
will wait for inferno
Inferno has its own meta.
🫃 maybe should have leveld vertical instead of horizontal for viper when curios come back
oh well
how do you get the yinyang bonus
l.
u need two sets of extreme curios yin-yang
oh I thought those weren't active nowq
precisely.
You need 1 Breakthrough Aura for each level between 21-24 and 2 Breakthrough Aura for 25. You get 1 per week, and 2 from the current event. Spend them very wisely.
Lv. 21, 22, & 25 are the largest powerspikes for most heroes, with 23 being for ranged heroes.
Won't matter since her Curio alters her Attack anyway.
one extreme yin curio and one extreme yang curio and use them on any hero, you can craft them now if you have enough materials
afaik you get small amount of materials every week
Also, doesn't one hit from kurumi curio generates enough element accum for a full bar?
i don't remember if you had to awaken the extreme curios to get yin yang bonus or just have extreme rarity one
don't think we get any awakening materials every week
thanks I'll look for mats
I think that’s cause Poison is easiest and cheapest build imo
yeah atleast one of the meta ice jades was locked behind peak/nirriti NS/legend
the pc i build for cs actually making me better at bowjob in this game
i can actually see the future when my ping isnt 100
Yeah, you'll probably want to switch to Sap for heroes with weapon attack altering Curios.
Past few events have given a lot of the Poison ones some reason.
That might actually be funny if I'm gonna use Tscorch on kurumi with sap on her curio
might have to try
Not sure bout the drawbacks thou
You can activate Ice Blast pretty quick on Tessa now:
Honestly it would be a DPS buff
What's this
taking notes
Her Curio hits for 7200% at Extreme, Scorching Lv. 12 hits for 5400% + Sap for 1084%. You can spam the Scorching a lot quicker though.
code
for
They work cross-platform/server now?
PC code build only =))
i tried on other platform but not work
Real that's my point. Can alter between Curio and Scorch depending on the situation.
thunder seal build for unlimited F
guys can i get more than 3 those new red stones right now?
No, they're extremely time gated.
is it you bro? the ign?
what?
Build Code
imagine they copy paste other game feature (Delta Force) =))
i meant is it your id ? BunnyEira?
not me
ahh.. i doubt but alright
can I ask what the best ranged weapon single target dmg character is?
between bow/valda/wuchen
Bow strongest
- Valda Cui
- Lv. 21+ Temulch
- Tessa
- Lv. 20- Temulch
- Wuchen
- Tianhai
- Kylin Zhang
- Feria Shen
- Akos Hu
- Matari
- Viper Ning
oh wow
tyvm
was curious about temulch
just checked it out, damn that is crazy
i wonder how much better valda is to temulch bow
gotta love that they didn't put any new bosses in the new mode
no huyanaunauuanuna and agnivat
or that annoying deer shaman
Not they just gonna add them to tempared to piss us off
lets hope not :D
for the weekend event easy battle, in showdown mode the 3x 20 rerolls is a random chance? ive played like 7 games and they havent given it to me
nvm realized it wasnt rerolls this week
What is the best set to invest right now ? Scorch?
Wait for Curios in a couple updates
Scorching usually falls off with Curios since it requires being interrupted.
Interesting, they moved the date for Tempered Inferno forward.
And it's on a Monday.
is it long season this time ?
An interesting choice after they gave us like a month before
Does it only need 1 more star or have run back to get 9 star ?
all stages should be 3 stars
🥲
Mine is 0 star atm. Do i need to run everything back to 9 star or only need 1 because solo is hard af
Are you in NA? I can help
yea, but can solo
Does paragon 8 have 2 stages or 3 ?
9 stars
paragon 8 boss is eerie korvine with 2 phases 
dam it , no time for phase 2
I hate paragon 7 I’m doing well then that damn wolf spams those golden attacks
is it best to farm nirriti when you have full fatigue
If you have fire forge levels or collections to complete still sure
It's usually the main farm for most when there's no limited time mission available.
Hey
Help I need this
I just off and exhausted all of my energy 
Ok let me know if u can tomorrow
I can help I'm not a bot 🤣 my wuchen OP
How many time you need to complete the quest ?
8 times 🤓
Why does one shotting a boss in the new showdown mode only award an A?
But if you spend 5x as long doing defuses, you get SS?
What's the point of that?
All you're doing is giving players headaches and low self esteem, because there is NOTHING in-game that explains that to them
Only need to do that 1 time tbf
But WHY?
You one shot the boss. Sorry not good enough. Here's an A.
You wasted a whole bunch of time spamming defuses before killing the boss? Nice job, SS for you.
Make it make sense
Rank should be based on speed of clearing.
It's such a stupid arbitrary gambit system they've implemented, with no in-game explanation at all. I guarantee you at least 70% of showdown players don't even know that that's how you're supposed to get the rank.
Apparently, it's pretty clear and easy.
anyone have Justina new build video? the one with thunder lotus
So in that case I just will play solo to get the SS 😀 spamming defuse and counter
@balmy coral it's not clear. There's no explanation in game at all about the mechanics of the ranking system
Get SS on first bossz 20sec and one shot all level, it simple enough for me
@zinc viper but how did you even know to do that? There isn't any explanation in game?
Dodge, parry, defuse
I notice by fighting like I nornaly do
@balmy coral but where is there an explanation about the ranking system??
There's an in-game level of buffs
u blind
There is not a button on the main screen to drop down text to explain HOW you get to SS
I'll screenshot it and show you
There's no transparency
Surely, it's in patch notes too. Reading is a thing.
But it's not IN GAME
Also if you one shot boss your not on the hardest difficulty cause it take me a lil bit of time
I believe it was listed in the patch notes, I think they're beta testing the mechanic before adding it to a permanent mode (hopefully Ruins).
I was in a match with 2 heavy hitters that killed it in like 20 seconds
The people who're able to kill the bosses that fast likely don't need the buffs anyway
@fierce light that's fine and all. But why not also explain it in game? Preferably on THIS menu?
That's easy mode bro
What if you click R ?
If they burn through Scorch before he can do the swarm, then I'd recommend just focusing on building rating rather than damage the rest of the match.
I think the (i) explains it too
If I highlight challenge mode, there's still no drop down text explaining the ranking mechanics
Help me get SS broski
Bro mad and don't even attempt the event. 
u surely need to check the patch note every now and then instead of crying.
The "I" drop box shows this
If it for event I just solo it , take 5min and it done
It just said lol
Yeah the (i) explains it
Ye just read
It said that damage dealing, defuses and counters contribute to ranking
Oh you posted it already lol
Damage dealing goes towards the team's score, which I'm not sure what that is
Right, but you get so much damage already, how does that not get you SS
But it does say specifically counters and defuses increase rating.
It also said damage dealing too
Score being a different value separate from rating
Listen, this is made by the same Dev that think Inor and Lis is balance, dont expect a good devloped game
The Damage go straight to HP boss to able to advance to the next boss

Listen, I think I understand WHY they want to implement this. They want this to be a way to force people to learn how to defuse and counter.
I respect that, but they got a wrap it in a way that's not misleading
I only recently learned what defusing even is, after 2 years of playing
I pretty much noticed right away that dealing damage wasn't increasing rating. But defusing my freeze gave a nice chunk.
I never defuse at all
Im sure thunder counter boost it well
Countering Divine Thunder doesn't seem to affect it oddly
I only counter, dodge, and DPS rotate
Nevermind XD
If you defuse the Divine Thunder it counts though 
It also counts perfect dodges, which is something it doesn't list
But it was FINALLY explained to me IN GAME by a friend who walked me through it, and now I'm in the painful process of learning to defuse instead of dodge
Hold M1 and change to M2 to defuse.
I'm not pc
But you mean, "hold vertical" and while holding that, "tap horizontal" right?
It the same like Counter but you start mid Charge
It's just not muscle memory and really awkward still
What's cross parry?
Wait, what happens?

Never liked composite parry
Pressing Horizontal and Vertical will make you do a parry if you have it on.
Conflicts directly with defusing though
I'm for the new mode if it forces people to learn to defuse better, but it needs to also have some kind of mode or path to include the new bosses. Especially with the massive field wipe attacks, which look impossible to avoid but once you get the rhythm down, are simple. And even then that doesn't account for teaching someone to adapt to canceling out of defuse asap into counter or other stuff like that for more sporadic attack patterns
Likely was made with the new defuse jades in mind as well.
Their Aegis breaks too fast for them to be useful though tbh
I respect that too. And honestly my complaint isn't even the hard boss choices. It was that they didn't explain that it was a 100% necessity that you had to defuse.
They really should have just tied it off as a bonus reward system, kinda like how you have your list of challenges?
Maybe have a bullet point that says "defuse 10 times in one fight" kinda like how our battlepass token quests show up.
For sure, I think it's a promising mode, but definitely needs work. Though I hope it's something permanent
My biggest issue is moving between areas causing frame drops and what feels like weird ping lag issues, too
I don't have a monster PC, but it's making me question if I should have the game on an NVMe instead of a regular SSD
Idk. If anything, I hope the devs at least give an honest ear for my feedback for later when they re-implement it.
And I'm on console, so I feel it probably worse tbh.
I watched some twitch streamers playing, and PC is spoiled with the game smoothness..
Or maybe it's healthier to say that I'm in FPS poverty?
It probably depends on their attitude I guess.
Console frame rate definitely has a disadvantage but it really shouldn't be that way, either
My FPS drops are more from when the boss actually loads in, which isn't too bad. But 16 core CPU, too, so it has to be an SSD bottleneck
I'm not educated about the specs of PC and what they mean.
But I will say If my game (which is supposed to be at 120fps) has to render more than 3 other players, my framerate drops hard to like 35-40.
It's funny, I could be playing ranked, and if I felt a fps drop, I immediately knew that bots just spawned in.

thts my case
I've been leveling these jades too, yet I never use them. Just leveling them for the sake of saying I have an extra build to use or play around with if I feel like it
You know my pain lmao
Which has yet to happen
Whenever I play inferno its like on 30 fps at max
which one ?
TS ?
The poison defuse jades, I don't remember their name, but I mainly play poison builds
Yeah it's a bit painful playing on my Xbox Series S
Really hope they at least do smth bout fatigue consumption in inferno.
Inferno?
After giving a taste of 90 fatigue they should at least increase it by 15
Oh lol
TI
Yeah ik the mission you meant, usually fatigue cost not a complaint for it though lol
They should add key drops to it so I won't have to be so stingy with them
Fuc
Ye, I know the shi crafting and stupid bosses
but mainly, no one wants to spend more time than before grinding it
Knowing it's the final phase before we switch over to a new season ye
and 6 months of waiting
Hopefully they don't scale the enemies up too high to compensate for Lv. 25 & extra Souljade slot
Who are the characters without a curio yet?
Iirc kylin, Justina, zai
Feria tianhai
Ye
So, possibly 7 new ones.
Matari
Temulch
Probably 3 or 4 will get one lol
more than if they could add ones that is for yang
Last season it was only for zip rite
Rather, I don't care they should bump the fatigue consumption in TI
Specifically what will happen is Justina, Kylin, Akos Hu, and Zai ALL get new curios, and then Temulch: a good job sticker
Or path two: they surprise drop Xunhuan Li into showdown and then immediately give him a curio day 1
They won't do that immediately.
Justina should be the last to get curio as her ultimate is OP as it is lol
Anything to avoid giving Temmy a curio
We are missing flying knives in showdown
Yueshan got a curio btw
Wish you could get bloodripper somewhere though son i can level up
and it's suxx
I do hope they get added soon, my guess is they'd throw it on Xunhuan Li since his ult/skill already act like throwing knives
Ah that makes sense
Feria Shen, Tianhai, Temulch, Matari, Wuchen, Justina Gu, Kylin Zhang, Akos Hu & Zai.
9 characs
Tbh Lv. 21 as such a big buff that I reckon he could keep up with Curios on Bow
Yeah jokes aside 80% attack is crazy
Kurumi gives herself x1.2 DMG Amplification with her Skill. Another x1.2 with her Ultimate. Just unfortunate she can't attack during Skill without Curio.
I wonder if they're ever bringing the old curios back, I barely played season 2 but just barely managed to get Kurumi's curio. Could never get Tessa or Tarka Ji curios, though. And idk anything of season 1
Yeah they promised events to unlock the old Curios, but we haven't had one yet
Wasn't until season 3 I started to really get into the groove with showdown so I'm lucky to have gotten Kurumi's before it was locked away
Aside from Tarka's, S1's pretty much all got powercrept already
Ye sounds about right, it'd be cool if I could view them in game just to see what they were rather than them being hidden in obscurity, since I wasn't playing Naraka at all yet
Yeah not sure why they remove them from Free Training every time
Naraka logic: show all the emotes and star costumes you missed out on and other random battle pass items you can't get anymore, but hide the curios and similar gameplay mechanics of previous seasons if you didn't play that season
Tarka's Curio was game breaking for S1. Valda's & Yoto's for S2. We'll have to see if they top that in S3.
They almost certainly will, Valda and Yoto Hime curios are straight up life changing
I'm curious if they'll nerf Yoto's. It makes the new Defuse Jades useless
Have they nerfed previous curios?
Huh, interesting. I'm guessing they won't nerf Yoto Hime's then, though I also wonder if it's related to Chinese law that they can't nerf it
I know in gacha games nerfing a character leaves them open to lawsuits since it's seen as false advertising to weaken a character, but you're not spending money on the curios, either
how good is tessa non bow
For me tessa is pretty good
which build? if not poison bow
Ice surge
Can basicially spamm her skill with 100 mod
Ulti up most of the time
With cyan fang now its pretty fun
tessa was my go to hero year ago
but all the heroes they've released since then i find better

man i wonder if my passion for bowjob is strong enough to just invest breakthru aura in telmuch
valda musket is looking lit as hell tho
i keep reading bowjob wrong 
we might get temulch or bow curios in soon, dont know yet what's gonna be strong
which kinda sucks
you spend an entire season investing on something that gets thrown into D tier
before the season even ends
think the right play might be to just wait for inferno
before even spending breakthru
id prolly go more all in on bows if its aoe is a bit better
Bow kept up with most Curios for bossing. Just not the crazy ones like Yoto's and Valda's
i went 22 justina to make nirriti faster
gonna save rest of breakthru materials for inferno
i was thinking of playing tessa bow so i have some curves on my new monitor
then i saw telmuch 21
What should ı play Tessa? Which build better for Tessa?
bow
hey, how ppl get gold armor already? it sdrops on enigma or how to get 4 piece?
🎉 | ToWdDy leveled up!
you can borrow lvl 25 hero in certain gamemodes
ahhh ok so the maximum is still lvl 23 for now right?
yes
o thanks 😉
What’s a good way to get legend jade or flux jade shard?
🎉 | JayMeeks leveled up!
I think tht certain is only the new event right ?
only 2-3 per season
legend jades
1 is through showdown pass
other is through seasonal missions completion
and last is through yama abyss paragon 1 completion
if I'm not wrong
Hopefully we get another one for full curio collection later this season
Top 10 reasons I've been struggling to do ss on my first few runs 
my only problem getting rank thru parry/defuse is that in trios parrying/defusing is like throwing a dice for me
in solos it's SO MUCH BETTER
They were dead before u can fill up the bar lol
2 justinas every match
now yes since everyone already has 10 SS ranks
but u gotta zip or kurumi for a safety net
Fr
That's why I solo-d up it lol
I could keep the SS rank all thru the match it's worth it
what if u just die?
like just go solo game, parry hellscorch get SS and die
turn fatigue off
can u just get 10 SS super fast that way?
i was thinking about that few days ago but just did the SS normally with random teams
The thing is I don't
yeah but like if u want fast 10 SS
just die on purpose after SS in hellscorch
takes 1min per SS
Ye filling the Tshock bar with kurumi is painful
You will fill it overtime
After that is how good u dodge after parry and before the parry
Even with Agnivat the thing is when she transitions to bow lol
When I played topaz
why kill boss and die... just first one to reach ss and quit
no harm done

it's habit i've gained from bot games, you don't get event rewards in PVP modes if you quit. you have to die to bots 
wait i dont have to finish the round for it to count?
so technically i can just play thunder and spam parry defuse until ss then quit r
yup
amen to that
or whatever they say in chinese
is there a specific build just to get ridiculous amount of parries/defuses off to get this done quicker
how far do i have to get before i can quit
or do i have to die or sth
i literally just get ss on the first trash mob is that not possible
i dont think it gives any rank up
just parrying/defusing boss attack does
Zero said it does
Even Wallace/Luczi
huh doesn't look like that for me
Ngl they're the same person atp
xD
i wonder if i even want to bother try getting killed by the bot
thats gonna take some time
i dont have to maintain ss right
just get it once then be done w it?
yeah you just need to reach it once doesn't matter if you lose it right after
i've done the quest already so i can't try if dying to boss will let you get it for the quest
I gotta take a moment of appreciation for the SJ Mighty Counter Gale Blast, which triggers Astral Gust and...i just love it so much. That sound of it. One of the best sound effects i've ever heard in a video game.
I'll probably re-mention this from time to time.
i mean at least i can inform people that quitting the match after ss definitely does not count towards the quest
you can go do easy mode solo too, shouldn't take too long to finish all bosses
i think easy mode counts towards the quest?
didn't try it thought so not 100% sure
looks promising
i dunno nothing about valda but no one in EU leaderboards is using build like that
but 1 jade is new to me
eu rank 1 valda
yup def this one
Top 1 SEA tho
focus more on counter and parry stats for musket
yeah like i said i dunno nothing about valda, but just make sure u dont copy cheater's build it wont work without cheats 
yeah that is why im here to ask lmao
it's too bad we can't even login to check CN leaderboards
would be nice to see what kinda builds they use
but didn't dark and neel have access to CN server ?
what time does he/she have?





