👾┃showdown

[fierce light]

Could go for Thunder Smash on the Red path for stronger Counterstrikes and base stats from going in and out of Surge.

[calm kestrel]

I only have 9 Scorching right now. Waiting for the Legend Jade next week to get 12.

[calm kestrel]

I did try this, and it does good damage. But I have 6x Health so I need to utilise that for my burn damage so I full send into the Burn tree then finish with Element Afterglow.

[dusty wharf]

bro how

I can't even get below 4 mins

[fierce light]

Ah, yeah if your attributes already into it no worries. Just seemed like the Thunder Charge was griefing you at the start

[shrewd basin]

Ok I might have started this build out wrong but I can recover does kylin want Tsurge or Tscorch

[exotic canopy]

lol i was wondering y u dindt answer my pm

[hidden creek]

neither, or both

[shrewd basin]

Very helpful

Next

[hidden creek]

even though the build principle is the same but he run his own version of tscorch and tsurge

he also got a dedicated build which focus on his ult dmg

and that build also got two versions, with and without curio

[fickle linden]

i been playing some yueshan for dailies recently

forgot how much i hate polesword in showdown

thank god they gave akos fistblades

[dreamy flume]

anyone trying to play showdown rn?

1306000090164

[plain spire]

Looks like it has scorching and pretty good
https://www.tiktok.com/@linh_lung8/video/7556562027259448584?_r=1&_t=ZS-90GNa3S96ox

Correct me if im wrong, looks like this is the build.

[hidden creek]

it is

but only 1 thunder wielding on element surge though, rest are ice and poison wielding

[amber terrace]

[balmy coral]

What jades do u have? from there we can decide which to go to cos even with curio kylin has two dedicated builds for it.

His dedicated non-curio build is still good thou

with soul drawing and back fire

[sacred turtle]

guys where can i find the meta builds ?

[tribal bone]

On dark's site

[sacred turtle]

long time no see

whats the site ?

[hidden creek]

feel so good when it happens

[tribal bone]

Indeed

[tribal bone]

Check pinned msg

[fierce light]

They both work. TSS has a relatively stronger start, but TSurge has a much stronger Ultimate.

[fierce light]

If you don't run Draco Stride, you'll be pretty weak against bosses outside of his Ultimate. Even then, you want them all to have different Wielding amounts so they proc at different times.

[north lynx]

Even then it's likely they will all proc at the same time, which gives rise to inconsistencies

[whole rover]

https://youtube.com/shorts/2Rx67JO9PEA?si=-HgAdkHmp4bf2m0c

[north lynx]

Me realizing i gotta burn 1200 fatigue

[timid igloo]

Do any of you know what thundercall's damage boost is (the pistol purple jade)? it's description is only 'higher damage'. From the extremely little testing that I did do, shattered edge and it hover around the same mark, renewed vigor pulling noticably ahead (in a longer encounter I'm certain the gap widens), but I don't have one unfortunately
ik pistol is probably ass compared to bow or swarm, and the fact that the only way to proc deadeye without repairing is to use dual link whose effect doesn't work on deadeye shots (actually enough deadeye build rate could probably do it as well, I was in the training room tho), but I wanna mess around with it :)

[balmy coral]

800 left

To me

[balmy coral]

The most painful part is the very slow deadeye generation

[north lynx]

I don't even think the reward is worth even if you can get passed that

Like bow for sure outclasses

But idek if it's better than flying musket

It looks cool

That's about it, you gotta play an inconsistent mini game that doesn't have payoff

[fierce light]

It increases by a variable amount depending on the other Pistol Souljades you have equipped.

• +40.7% Base DMG for Thunder (default Charged Pistol shot).
• +10% Base DMG for Midnight Twin Fires(Martial Skill in Deadeye stance).
• +14.3% Base DMG for Thunder w/ Dual Link.

I haven't gotten around to testing it with Dual Link + Explosive Rounds yet, but that's about the jist of it. Pistol isn't worth making a build for atm.

[pine sierra]

Hi guys

[timid igloo]

gon have to settle at using pistol for grinding ruins then

[fierce light]

It has a bad dilemma right now. Either you go for Souljades that greatly increases its Deadeye Generation, but then you deal half damage while in Deadeye OR you don't go those Souljades and have to deal with an atrocious Deadeye Generation rate. Either way you'll be dealing half or less of the DPS of Swarm/Bow with a similar build.

[balmy coral]

Even in ruins it sux trust

You badly need the thunder Element to hit the boss for deadeye generation.

[timid igloo]

it did feel weaker, but I didn't expect it to be that big of difference damn

[balmy coral]

Or else u get to shooting 24/7

[hidden creek]

pistol is literally shit compare to any ranged

[timid igloo]

I use it in ruins for a change of pace, it's already a mind numbing ordeal as it is

[balmy coral]

I'd say in ruins use it on Akos so u can just straight pic range/thunder Element rings and still get less grief.

[smoky light]

Can anyone help me farm souljades for ice

[signal kite]

[hidden creek]

bruh enigma domain bosses are too weak

[shrewd basin]

Yeah I noticed that too, yesterday I had a 4 boss 1 ult

[hidden creek]

i don't remember they being this weak last season, even against full build ice surge justina

[shrewd basin]

I mean it is just topaz rn

It’s always been a bit weaker then peak

[hidden creek]

probably i haven't run topaz for so long

[fierce light]

Yeah Solo Topaz has crazy low scaling

[hidden creek]

so i forgot how low hp they got lol

[balmy coral]

remember when Kylin was new he was solo-ing peak not topaz

[fierce light]

But yeah nothing lasts long enough to even make good use of the new Mark jades.

[hidden creek]

plenty of heroes can not just kylin

i think from tessa release ppl already soloing peak

[balmy coral]

Not as fast as kylin thou and not all of them was even viable last season unlike now

[balmy coral]

mmm ye Iguess so

[hidden creek]

can't test shits rn

though yama probably favor builds that doesn't require a long startup

[fierce light]

The enemies don't even reach max level till the last wave. So it's like fighting these early Yama's stages now.

[lone umbra]

Mark builds would be much more viable after curio i believe

[hidden creek]

eh

can't say anything pre curio lmao

it happened twice already

[lone umbra]

[hidden creek]

a character that is literally trash tier

suddenly a must have in trio

[lone umbra]

Ice seal becoming sss tier.. that build is not even looked at all

Post curio

[hidden creek]

tarka was broken with curio, then ppl suspected that next wave of curio gonna make some heroes op too, and it turned out to be true
who could've guessed hydroflare valda and meatgrinder yoto

but tarka with his dedicated curio is still broken

so like you just can't predict it

[lone umbra]

Yeah i just put 4 mod on new thunder mark.. then stock up until curio. Already got ice surge maxed

[hidden creek]

but there isn't an achievement for clearing last stage paragon so if you don't compete for top 1-3 yama then no point trying to get the strongest character specific build
i mean aside from seeing big pp dmg number

[lone umbra]

Not care about yama and it can clear peak so doesn't matter at all

[lone umbra]

Top 3 on SEA server is sweaty af

[hidden creek]

yea and they also wanna hoard as much spot as possible

[lone umbra]

Yep like bruh keep one place open

[hidden creek]

they settled it with eachother

like they discussed beforehand, the circle of showdown focused players

who will take spot for which hero

there's also ppl who hates eachother so they'll try their best to overthrow the person they hates

[fierce light]

I can't imagine what Kylin and Justina's Curio would do.

[hidden creek]

justina curio double her ice damages

while kylin curio double his rage per dmg

[fierce light]

Akos going to go crazy with Verve Banner. Easy infinite ultimate in Inferno.

He's just lacking a really high accumulation attack.

Could have some synergy with Yoto as well, since he can drag the boss really far.

[hidden creek]

thanks for the idea

now i know what to do with ppl who steal my yoto

[fierce light]

Could push those annoying wizards from camping from afar

So probably Yoto, Kylin and Akos for fastest team.

[heavy shoal]

What do u call the special attack u get after using a blue in showdown? Not defuse, but the whatever aegis break skill? Dont u use those at all? Cause in kylin the range of it after a twin slash feels like its doing good dmg, but i could be very wrong so pls correct me

Also how do i know if elemental burst is off cd

[dusty wharf]

aegis break skill

[dusty wharf]

wdym off cd ?

[heavy shoal]

He wrote

when elemental burst is off cd

u should use kylin F

[hidden creek]

those icons on the right of boss's HP bar indicate that corresponding elemental blast is on cd

[heavy shoal]

Ok sow hen they vanish

u can build upo again?

[hidden creek]

yeah

[heavy shoal]

alright thanks

[fierce light]

The gold attacks after a charged attack are mostly Aegis-Break Skills. They usually have a lower DMG Coefficient, causing them to accumulate elements slower so they aren't used on much heroes outside of Poison builds. Akos and Matari have boosted versions though that have high DMG Coefficients.

[heavy shoal]

Ok that makes sense

what about Yoto hime

[fierce light]

Kylin's in particular has a lower DMG Coefficient than other heroes' Aegis-break Skills unless you're below 50% Health, in which it becomes more average. Generally pretty bad outside of extra AoE.

[fierce light]

Yoto's has an average amount.

• Matari's Aegis-break (no Flash buff): 0.77
• Matari's Aegis-break (w/ Flash buff): 3.50
• Kylin's Aegis-break (>50% Health): 1.80
• Kylin's Aegis-break (<50% Health): 2.16
• Yoto Hime's Aegis-break: 2.20
• Kurumi's Aegis-break: 2.20
• Justina's Aegis-break: 2.00

[dusty wharf]

which all heroes can double defuse ?

[heavy shoal]

I meant what is her rotation u would use

[fierce light]

Oh, just spam Vertical Charged attacks while sliding.

[heavy shoal]

Ok

is stone form

useless

in showdown

i tried using it but it seems

all boss attacks still go through?

[fierce light]

Most of the time it activates is by accident

Would recommend defusing into Earthshaker or just dodging attacks

[exotic canopy]

feria wuchen zip and Tessa with some extra effort are it i think

[fierce light]

Chain Defuses

-# Has immediate access to another defuse following a successful one.

• Feria (Tap Vertical)
• Matari (Tap Vertical)
• Wuchen (Tap Vertical)
• Tessa (Tap Horizontal while holding Vertical)
• Ziping Yin (Tap Vertical)
• Akos Hu (Tap Dodge)

Defuse Cancels

-# Has immediate access to a defuse while channeling an attack move.

• Valda Cui (Nezha's Might)
• Matari (Dancing Leaves & Dagger Dash)
• Tessa (Dragonlike Might)
• Ziping Yin (Razor Swift)
• Kylin Zhang (Aurora Burst)
• Akos Hu (Cloudweaver)

[exotic canopy]

is akos as simple as defuse twice in a row? like feria/wuch

[fierce light]

Yeah, you just tap dodge

[dusty wharf]

should pin this

will be helpful

[hidden creek]

tessa can also chain defuses

[dusty wharf]

dk

ask dark

[fierce light]

She has to go into Dragonlike Might first

[hidden creek]

nah

she can chain defuse just like feria or wuchen can

but you gotta hold vertical after a succesful defuse

[fierce light]

?

Vertical makes her do her Counterattack

[fierce light]

Must be bugged for me then

Cause it's only doing the counterattack whether I hold or tap

[hidden creek]

not after the defuse

holding vertical all the way

you start with holding v > press h to defuse (still hold v) > press h to defuse again

[fierce light]

Interesting

[hidden creek]

or if you start with holding h then press v (and hold) to defuse > press h to defuse again

also i just realize that on akos, after a succesful defuse if you tap F he'll release a fully charged F

works with wild sweep defuse too

[north lynx]

That's cool

[hidden creek]

also this but this is kinda useless lol

[misty bridge]

Has someone got pistol build?

[compact folio]

is nirriti or enigma better for farming jades

[hidden creek]

on paper, enigma

but topaz with brown keys drop rate is so bad

to the point that you probably should just run nirriti instead

[hidden creek]

it's dogshit don't even bother

[compact folio]

ive never ran constantly eingma.. i have almost 200 blue keys

[hidden creek]

i think dark got like 800 or something 💀

wait, blue keys? you mean gold?

[compact folio]

yes

legendary rune keys

[misty bridge]

I know but its for my wife xD

[hidden creek]

then you can use it on topaz ig
better run with a trio for 9k luck

[hidden creek]

she uhhh likes the pistol more than anything else?

[compact folio]

is random search viable in enigma like its in in nirriti?

[hidden creek]

idk i never do pub queue

[shrewd basin]

Not worth building for until they buff it

[misty bridge]

She already has a surge build anda bow build so she wants to see for pistol

So..

[shrewd basin]

Dual link elemental shot?

[misty bridge]

I told her that is trash but she is in love with dual pistols

[hidden creek]

it's so trash that no one even bother come up with a build for it

and in showdown ur materials are limited

u don't wanna waste them

[fierce light]

Yeah that's my opener for bosses in Ruins.

• 3 Tiger Leaps, Pounce, Ripper Claw

[misty bridge]

Damn, so is that trash that not even a single one bother to make one?

sheesh

[hidden creek]

i don't see or hear anyone say anything about pistol aside from it being trash

[fierce light]

Uses same build as the other ranged weapons, just it has such a bad tradeoff for its weapon specific jades that it's not worth

[shrewd basin]

imo if they were to buff pistols they’d need to up DEBR and damage coefficients right?

[hidden creek]

inb4 it's the first and only ranged weapon that got a dedicated curio

[fierce light]

It's DPS is also just much lower than other weapons. Only Musket hits lower on a per Attack basis.

[shrewd basin]

You gain 2 arms and now hold 4 pistols

[hidden creek]

[shrewd basin]

Ngl tho as shit as it is, it’s still fun to mess around with in ruins

It’s also helping me lvl it to max XD

[hidden creek]

bloodripper max when

[exotic canopy]

if i want a weapon a specific level i do lower yamas over and over

[fierce light]

If you run that, you can charge your Deadeye in 3 charged shots, but your Deadeye Attack will deal nearly half damage.

[exotic canopy]

which funny enough theyve been slowly nerfing every season since i started

[shrewd basin]

never

[exotic canopy]

first u had like 4 or 5 bosses in a row in 2.5 then last season it became like 2 bosses and 2 mob rounds first 4. and now its 2 boss a mob round but Agnivat is unskippable scene

or something like this pattern

[cyan vapor]

What are your attributes wtf

[balmy coral]

@fierce light we're getting a patch note next reset no?

[fierce light]

Yes. Skipped a week for Golden Week iirc

[balmy coral]

[fierce light]

Whoa, you can have more than one Mark active at once

[north lynx]

All they need to do is fix the dead eye build up and a slight dmge boost

It's already got a mini game built into the kit

No need to make it bad + that

[cursive fable]

thunder scorch+posion bow build+ ice surge can last me a while right?

with these 3 sets, i think im ready for last week yamas lol

[opaque latch]

Nirritis Ruins Legend NA anyone?

+2

[rotund forge]

Still need?

[fierce light]

Yeah. 3 top builds at the moment.

[fickle linden]

last week yamas is stretch

it's 6 months away

they will add more jades before that, and new curios

if even 1 of those 3 builds is still meta in end of the season that would be good

i think ts will work, but bow and surge builds will change

still it's not like we usually need 6 whole new jades for a build.. just need to fix 1 or 2 most times when they update stuff

wish there was "leave the best jade of each kind" like there is for curios

[tranquil beacon]

There is

[fickle linden]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-wait-what-gif-9000717621307637538

why i have never noticed that before

[exotic canopy]

wtf

[fierce light]

I honestly haven't tried that option out. I worry it's more concerned with the rating rather than the % of attributes.

[fickle linden]

has it been there for a long time?

[fickle linden]

hmmm, i'll manually lock all the best ones this time and deconstruct all and see which ones the "best" keeps

or, if best ones are locked it won't keep any new ones?

[fierce light]

I've seen too many jades with high ratings just cause it has a couple of the preferred attributes, but low % rolls.

It's easy to get the right attribute, not so easy to rise the %.

[fickle linden]

yeah idc at all about what attribute it is when checking jades

just want 1 or 2 max or near max %

[white dawn]

Yeap, that's what it does iirc.

[exotic canopy]

1 800 hot n fun!!

[fierce light]

They should add some settings or change how rating works.

[white dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/kim-chaewon-miyawaki-sakura-hong-eunchae-nakamura-kazuha-huh-yunjin-gif-12951812638313369061

[white dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/nodding-crossed-arms-pikachu-eyes-closed-pokemon-gif-15194868

[fickle linden]

even more for curios

it was so painful to lose good attribute all the time

when awakening

[thorn narwhal]

not the only, noticed it recently too, tho pretty useless button it will remove even good jades with rares

[fierce light]

Curios are definitely going to need something added

Going to be way too many this season

[limpid pecan]

pretty sure this thing is mega useless

i tried using the rating to deconstruct

its rly bad

it doesnt understand we just want to have 2 high value stats

and not lowrolls of attack/ice dmg or whatever

i think best way to deconstruct is to just lock all jades with good stats

[thorn narwhal]

deconstructing and looking at stats one by one is the most boring process in whole showdown, still hasn't been reworked

[limpid pecan]

then sort locked/unlocked

[fickle linden]

can't be bothered to check one by one

[limpid pecan]

so u can review the newly obtained jades

[fickle linden]

i just deconstruct all most of the time lol

fk it

[limpid pecan]

without re-checking old ones

[fickle linden]

if it's known meta jade i might check it

im not going to check 300 ranged jades one by one

[limpid pecan]

i guess thats fair enough

although sometimes jades get faded

and u can use them for making meta jades

but idk

showdown is beyond boring rn

there has been no real content

for such a long time

[fickle linden]

i got like 50 souljade choice gifts from last 3 seasons

[limpid pecan]

like dont call curios content

[fickle linden]

if i need jade im good

[limpid pecan]

basically they are just a few turbo OP jades

that take different slot

wow they made content kill a bunch of the same mobs, 8 waves

and u get a small pool of annoying bosses

crazy content

tbh it wouldnt even take

that much work

to make something

e.g. expand nirriti challenges and fire forge bonuses

and let us continue run

past 15 stages

would already make nirriti 1000x more fun

[fickle linden]

netease should delete where winds meet and add it as showdown mode for naraka

[limpid pecan]

then make nightscream and legend fatigue efficient

then they could do something like

random map

u play random regular chapter

with bonus drops

so its as good as nirriti

but also some interesting map modifiers

and by interesting i dont mean impassable or ice spikes from floor knocking u over

[fickle linden]

are topaz bosses totally random?

4 rock in row

[balmy coral]

Yuup

[shrewd basin]

Only bosses I’ve seen so far are Mountain, big chungas, manticore, rock, korvine

[balmy coral]

Not sure bout peak

[fierce light]

Every season they usually adjust the ones that can spawn.

[limpid pecan]

tbh its kinda really boring too

just a few bosses

entire season

over and over again

[fickle linden]

oof the seasonal quest to kill 6 bosses in was for enigma, not topaz

i just did it for nothing

[shrewd basin]

😂

[exotic canopy]

[tight lion]

anyone for morus nightscream

[plain spire]

You need help morus?

[north lynx]

You know

If they just made pets

And made the showdown bosses have super rare drops

That were pets of themselves

[balmy coral]

I'd love to pet a mini-agnivat or Yushan

[fierce light]

Yeah, give them the Curios Enhance system and exclusive materials for it drop from boss-chapter missions. Then give Curios a better less-RNG system since it's not permanent.

[north lynx]

Ye give them intractable emotes in fairyland too

Then we could show em off

Imagine seeing a lil 4 armed omnious rock doing a lil happy dance

Manticore playing with his ball

[north lynx]

I'd like this as well.

Tbh pets in naraka, having them be rare drops in each mode somehow would fix allot of things

Giving reasons to play modes for cool things would be fire idk

Rift dealer chest from rift Traversal

Some cool pet from blessed brutality

Naraka volleyball from hot potato

Some cool pet that has the voice of the spirit well announcer for wells

Moonbane and sunwing from BR as just an extra reward to unlock from a high number of kills from them

[plain spire]

If only rift traversal isn't pvp, instead becomes pve doing quest to summon boss and boss drops rare rare/epic/legend/extreme items like a raid boss.

[fierce light]

Yeah Rift seems like it could be set up into a much better version of Enigma Domain.

Although balancing fatigue cost with such a mode would be difficult. I think it should probably just cost a Rune Key (or some similar item) to enter and be unaffected by your Rewards %. Would give us something to do after burning Fatigue and encouragement to make a strong build.

[north lynx]

It's possible

That an akos specfic build could be made for pistol

Mainly focusing on the attack boost from his ult

[fierce light]

Even then, his Martial Skill would deal more DPS even without Defuse Prowess

[fierce light]

Yoto FTW

[rotund forge]

Beyblade gaming

[quaint girder]

Can anyone help me clear Doom?

[tribal bone]

yes, since i started playing

[tribal bone]

rating works with % of attr tho

[tribal bone]

WTFFF

[opaque latch]

yea, still

[quaint girder]

Nvm was able to solo it

[heavy shoal]

Whos good for bolt/hydroflare in niriti?

I assume valda for hydro

[hidden creek]

any for hydro

bolt probably just wuchen

[heavy shoal]

and why wuchen

[hidden creek]

bolt blessing summon bolt per hit

wuchen aegis break and defuse counter attack are multi hits

tessa is ok too ig

[smoky light]

Can anyone carry nirritis ruin on nightscream to help me get better souljades

[glad citrus]

Why in "swarm poison surge" build thunder is the main wielding and not poison in potential plan? Or its just a mistake?

[lone anvil]

Ice, thunder, poison – any will do.

[fierce light]

It favors specific attributes more so. I had a jade with nearly 2 maxed stats be rated lower than one with all stats 40% or lower just cause they were preferred attributes.

[fierce light]

Kurumi and Wuchen are decent with Bolt. Still likely the worst collection to focus at the moment.

Hydro good on anyone, performance can vary heavily though depending on if you get Blazing Inferno.

[fierce light]

Thunder makes its Counterstrikes hit twice as hard with Thunder Smash.

[balmy coral]

@amber terrace ???

[amber terrace]

grinding chamber pts

[balmy coral]

AHH

[balmy coral]

Speaking of Chamber.

[amber terrace]

[signal kite]

Any space available in yo chamber T^T my chamber dead

[amber terrace]

my chamber is pc ver

[signal kite]

Ohh lol

[fickle linden]

you get more chamber pts longer the game takes?

i've noticed during inferno season it's hard to reach 2k chamber pts for me

[amber terrace]

i think 200-300pts/120mins

[balmy coral]

Wanna join my Chamber?

So I have someone to do heroes assemble

[grizzled canopy]

any good poison build this season?

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Sơn Tặc Mượn Tác Phẩm leveled up!

[fierce light]

Poison Bow and Swarm seem most effective.

[grizzled canopy]

i dont like the range weapon any good for melee?

and this season should i go with poison blast or DMG to boss?

[north lynx]

Good isnt what Id use

there is poisen builds

they are just objectively worse than the other builds

I only use it on my luck build personally for mobbing

That and ranged if you consider that poisen

[fierce light]

There's the Poison Seal build

• Pestilent Pool, Defuse : Poison Charge, Miasma Boon, Mushroom Summoning, Defuse : Solidification & Infectious Touch.
  It relies on having heavy aggro to be effective in any way though and the nerfs to accumulation make it ineffective for mobbing.

[grizzled canopy]

im using this right now

should i change poison blast to dmg to boss?

[fierce light]

Yes. Nothing in there boosts Poison Blast DMG dealt (Toxified Chain, Toxified Lotus, etc).

[grizzled canopy]

yes ty i mean the chain crush still work very well for me just try the new jade lol

[tidal violet]

Is it weird that I use all legendaries despite the rating 😅

[fierce light]

Rarity of the Souljade doesn't really matter, it's more so how they synergize. You wouldn't want to use Depth's Blasts with Pestilent Pool just because they're legendary for example. Rating is also pretty useless to go by as a jade with 4 Windfalls would be rated really high, but its useless on its own.

[tidal violet]

Thx that really helps.

[fierce light]

That build is mainly focused on causing Toxin Blasts often, which isn't considered Poison Blast DMG. So the majority of its base dmg won't scale from it.

[signal kite]

What's your chamber

[balmy coral]

Sybau

[signal kite]

[signal kite]

You are everbunny ?

[balmy coral]

ye I am

[signal kite]

I'm convinced even if i talk to people here in chat I can't tell who they are in game T^T , i just found this out

My bad

[balmy coral]

It's Ok. We never really Qued together anyway.

are u full fatigue yet?

[signal kite]

Have played only 1 nirriti this week

So lol not full fatigue yet

[balmy coral]

I can play in 2 hours if u wanna do sum run.

[signal kite]

It's my sleep now will play later if u get time

[balmy coral]

Let me know if u wanna do the chamber. It's dead like every console but ye

[balmy coral]

Oh suure maybe noon

[quaint girder]

Why do we go surge tree on deadeye

I thought standing in the pool to poop the buff was considered bad lmao

Or rather why do we take the surge buff nodes

[vale fiber]

Why are curios disabled?

There's still 157 days left of Showdown season

[fickle linden]

they are disabled for next 100 days

and then you need to craft new curios

old ones will be removed

[fierce light]

They increased the buffs you get for being in Surge on the Potential Tree. It was never really bad as that was a big factor it was used in dedicated Curio builds last season as well.

Also Pestilent Pool allows you to activate Toxin Blast every 3 Poison Blasts.

[cursive fable]

wuwa is so much more popular than naraka in the west

idk why

i mean both games char are cute looking

[fierce light]

Well the servers run much better, it's available on mobile, new characters come out faster and the (PvE) grind for them isn't nearly as bad.

[north lynx]

Naraka has allot of issues

Unfun server interactions, massively high skill ceiling, fps dictating the game, poor handling of cheaters, misinformation everywhere. That's without talking about showdown. Showdown has 20+ maps and only 2-5 are worth grinding. Has hundreds of jades but only a fraction are playable(this seasons much better than previous ones). Late game content is not fun. Peak really is the only fun part of showdown.

The showdown lore is kinda like

Very scattered and forced in a weird way that makes it hard to piece together

There's not an interesting story tbh

They don't really seem to have a late goal with naraka, just kinda feeding gameplay loops

Which isn't a bad thing but when most of the gameplay loops rely on how much money you dumped into your pc, not really great

Not to mention the game direction of glyphs does not bode well for pvp

Wuwu may not be perfect but it kinda doesn't have the above issues

[woven musk]

[signal kite]

[rotund forge]

@chilly kestrel playing?

[cursive fable]

@north lynx the skill ceiling is indeed high

[drifting lance]

🎉 | 风雷动 旌旗奋 leveled up!

[cursive fable]

but i feel like most players are like trash compare to the top 3 players, which is good

the community isnt that competitive

like in other games, WOW, csgo for example, everyone is neckbeard and no life try hard pusher /pvper

@north lynx this game community is pretty laidback interms of skill grinding

i guess the skins are the best part of this game tbh

the problem with wuwa is every one's char look identical

so theres no personal customization

[rotund forge]

I mean wuwa don't even have good multiplayer aspect

They should work on it tbh

[round glacier]

Whats wuwa

[rotund forge]

Wuwu

[exotic canopy]

just got a 2:51 in hard mode quickest by far

[balmy coral]

wuthering wives

[cloud river]

wtf is this
Do you have the full uncroped image? I don't understand how you got this one lol

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Bafy78 leveled up!

[woven musk]

i got grabbed by new boss

and print screened

[fervent oxide]

Where can I find the Akos Build guys?

[plain spire]

https://dark-zer0.github.io/Showdown/build.html?option=1

[tribal bone]

@plain spire @fierce light im planning to build a new build, which one is strongest this season?

[quaint girder]

Scorching and Surge currently for Yamas

Depends on the hero, but those two are currently the best ST before Curios are released again

After Curios are released I'm not too sure

I really love this new season

Even though DT Lotus isn't viable for high level Yamas, it's still very viable for Peak and Domain

A lot of builds are viable and fun

I'm actually excited for Curios, I think Frost Mark and Toxin Mark for Kurumi and Ziping respectively will be really strong support based builds

If I'm not mistaken, Mark SJs remove the CD of Elemental Blast so Kurumi can actually keep her F on permanently even if you make mistakes

[fervent oxide]

Thank you so much!

[north lynx]

Surge is overhyped

Gonna have next to no relevance when curios comes out and doesn't even really have relevance now, only reason it kinda does is because the previous stage was a mob stage

[cloud river]

is there any chance that the swarm will have a curio?

[north lynx]

There is a chance

[fierce light]

• Thunder Scorch Surge
  -# Best for bossing, except on Justina & Bow Users.
• Ice Surge
  -# Best for mobbing and Justina.
• Poison Surge Bow
  -# Best for bossing on Bow users.

[north lynx]

Curios will likely have 3-4 character specfic curios

Then a generic one for mark

The final is up in the air

It could be ranged though

[quaint girder]

Scorching is nostalgia bait imho

[fierce light]

Kurumi's Skill is pretty hard to lose with her Curio. Pretty much just have to land one Void Sunder and you're fine, even at 50% Moderation since her cooldown is active while it's up.

[north lynx]

Whatever it is the numbers don't lie.

[quaint girder]

Where da numbers?

[rotund forge]

you playin ?

[quaint girder]

Pics or it didn't heppen

[quaint girder]

Just thinking of alternative builds

With Lotus and Mark

I also agree that Surge is overhyped

But I also think Scorch is nostalgia bait

[north lynx]

Well poisen surge will be relevant but it's more just the attack boost focus

[quaint girder]

Did you mean Poison Surge?

[rotund forge]

is thee kylin previous build still holdding up

[fierce light]

Yes, mainly when there's mobs to fight before a boss to charge it quickly. Thunder Scorch Surge gives him some great damage outside of ult though. Old build will become primary when Curios are back.

[north lynx]

I am pretty sure scorching has the highest base multiplier out of any excess damage sources, outside of curios. The tree slots in very nicely with it.

Very hard to say it isn't the best early build

Esp with the accumulation nerfs not really affecting it

Nostalgia bait implies it's bait, which implies it doesn't gap every other early build, but it does.

Idk I'm on valda scorch musket tho so maybe my lense is crowded from that build just being crazy

[fierce light]

Yeah, one Scorching proc often does the damage of two Elemental Burst rotations on a different build.

[quaint girder]

Hmm, when is Scorching bad then?

Seems like a hard build to actually balance. Other builds are easier to play/pick up

But Scorching is highest ST output then why invest in other builds if they can't be viable for high level Yamas

[fickle linden]

there is no reward for being try hard in naraka atleast in EU/NA

community too small just a badge isn't rewarding enough

atleast in game like LoL that has tons of players having challenger borders is flex

[north lynx]

Well high level Yamas is another story

[fierce light]

If boss goes immune/untargetable when you activate Divine Thunder, but that can be offset by resetting. Curios will likely put it on the backburner again, unless we get a General Curio that boosts Burn in some way.

[north lynx]

Because charecter specific curio builds are going to gap scorching

[fickle linden]

and if you don't have highest spec PC and lowest possible ping i wouldn't even try wasting time try harding naraka

there is no point with inferior fps and ping

[fierce light]

Yeah I'm just lucky there's no crazy high FPS players on Xbox-NA.

[north lynx]

If you are in mid ping ranges you can tryhard honestly as long as you have high fps, at least in NA

In eu forget about it

2 ping gamers

[quaint girder]

I see, it's mainly Curio gap

There's hero specific Curios that usually synergize with elements procs or have unique builds

Or mechanic specific Curios which we have for Lotus and Surge so far

Unless they add a Hydroflare/Burn Curio then Scorching will get gapped

[north lynx]

Well no, the mechanic curios don't even really push out scorching either, it's more just the charecter specific curios based around skills, like valda yoto and tarka

And whatever else they add

They scale off raw attack more than anything

[fierce light]

Yeah the exclusive Curios for a few put out the numbers of Scorching from the start or even higher (Valda's).

Very likely we'll get a General Curio for Mark, Deadeye and/or Burn.

But those are only used on heroes with a bad/no exclusive Curio.

[quaint girder]

I will still shoehorn and make exclusive Curios work

[north lynx]

You mean make non exclusive curios work

[fierce light]

Exclusive Curios already work plenty

Doesn't look like their dedicated builds are changing yet either, but we'll have to see what jades they add mid-season.

[quaint girder]

Zero said there exists bad hero-Exclusive Curios

if those exist I will make them work

[fierce light]

Well even for Yueshan's, which is about the main bad one they made it work in CN by making him the primary Aegis DPS.

[quaint girder]

Can he actually break the ridiculous Aegis of Paragon 9-10 bosses?

[fierce light]

Yeah, paired with Valda, she just ults beginning of 2nd phase while the primary Aegis DPS melts it.

Fastest runs came down to who could break it the fastest

But will probably be different this season since we'll be going way above Paragon 10 in scaling.

[chilly kestrel]

nah. busy with work

[lone umbra]

Only thunder mark removes the cd.. not poison/ice

[lone umbra]

If general mark curio has awekening which makes defuse meter faster then poison mark would be really good.. may become meta too

[balmy coral]

75% still has better drops than 100%

[tribal bone]

after i get home, sure
by the way are u level 100?

[quaint girder]

O sedge

[rotund forge]

no

[tribal bone]

Whats your level ?

Mine is 69 right now

[rotund forge]

96 sometin

[tribal bone]

Damn

Carry me.

: )

[north lynx]

Keep it like this forever

If you got gold keys I'll carry you, I'm lv 100

[rotund forge]

theres nothing to do tho only nirriti which dont depend on lvl

[tribal bone]

Hahahha
I can tbh

Since im losing interest in game

[north lynx]

Don't blame you

I can only keep my resolve because I can do ruins while I'm working

They need to half the time till peak unlocks tbh

[balmy coral]

Holy

[north lynx]

Ikr what a life hack

[dusty wharf]

Yea

which server though

[north lynx]

For a gold key there's no limit to which server !

[dusty wharf]

lmao

whts ur ping on sea

I'm almost 100

95 above prob

[north lynx]

Idk like 200

It's fine though

Who needs ping

[dusty wharf]

well then we can farm after reset

cause rn everyone prob is above 600 fati

[north lynx]

Ye probs

Pretty sure self divine thunder is client sided so I should be ok to do burn stuff

[dusty wharf]

ur builds are maxed right ?

ace is gonna use TS or poison bow

I'm goona use ice surge

[north lynx]

Yeah or close to it

My valda scorch is maxxed

[dusty wharf]

good

whats ur time zone ?

[quaint girder]

Remote work is nice. I wish my workplace did remote as well.

[balmy coral]

wish I could but nah

[quaint girder]

Hard to find a good workplace in America that gives Remote Work, Generous Pension, Insurance that actually covers 100%, and rollover PTO with payout

[fierce light]

Is Peak coming out next reset?

[dusty wharf]

is the date not written in game ?

[lone umbra]

22/23 oct based on time zone

[fierce light]

Ty, added it to the pins.

[rough linden]

Can anyone help me with Windswept Wasteland Nightscream

[north lynx]

I luckily got all of that!

[north lynx]

I can

[rough linden]

tks bro

[north lynx]

What server

I'll come over

And your id?

[quaint girder]

bruh dunno how you managed to find a unicorn that allows for all of that

[rough linden]

5294700140168

Thank you so much

[north lynx]

Says user does not exist, are you sure that's correct?

[rough linden]

yeh

[north lynx]

What server are you on

[rough linden]

maybe sea

[north lynx]

@rough linden sorry had to adjust to the ping a bit

But we got there!

[rough linden]

Sorry I'm a bit of a newbie kkk

[north lynx]

Ur fine!

[fierce light]

I think with good FPS you'll be fine, but the interactions after parrying them can be clunkier than usual at high Ping.

[north lynx]

Ye I just did NS huanye basically solo trios with 200 ping

My fps is bad too but

It didn't matter

Musket parry window is very good

Makes up for allot of discrepancies

Had to adjust for fake soaked indicators

Where it says soaked was there but it wasn't

[soft pelican]

i wonder if dx12 is gonna mess w my frames

[rocky oriole]

is there a known best way to farm for souljade fragments?

[soft pelican]

its been okayish but every time i run bow build in yama i can feel fps being lower than dx11

[rocky oriole]

I'm assuming for carved crystals it's best to just spam 1st level to get clear fast

[north lynx]

Most likely, dx12 is not good with naraka

[north lynx]

3 boss enigma then quit gold key is the best fragments pre peak.

[compact folio]

only 3 boss?

[nimble heart]

For Viper
Can I continue building the same jades as last season?
Chain crush and all that
Or is there something better this season?
Also 2x moderation on one jade is ass correct?

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Lakrix leveled up!
ℹ | Level up messages can be disabled for the guild with owo level disabletext

[north lynx]

Only 3. After the third quit.

Good on regular key too, and the preferred method

Because you wanna save keys for peak

[soft pelican]

ngl who knows dx12 has done miracle for me in many games before

but yeah naraka seems to not be a part of such miracle

[north lynx]

We do, we all want dx12 to work it's just been a universal downgrade for anyone attempting it

Bad optimization or something idk

[soft pelican]

think imma have to ditch my yueshan passion ngl

having mid fps sucks when playing his slow ass

also prolly bc im messing up my dodge canceling

[north lynx]

Best carved crystals in dangers in the Deep Nightscream

2 every 15 fatigue run

So 6 every 45 consistently

[rocky oriole]

oh sweet; I have to do that one anyways for depth blast

[north lynx]

Nirriti Ruins gives 2-9, hard is the best grind since it has higher fragment rates

That's the 2nd best method and has a more even spread between fragments and crystals

[rocky oriole]

gotcha )b

I'll prolly be doing Dangers in deep then enigma, or if I get a good depths blast early, nirriti

[compact folio]

ive been running nirriti nc only xd

so like i guessed there are faster ways to farm

[soft pelican]

i mean nirriti is best xp

almost lv 100 now then i can just smash my face into the keyboard and plow through yama for a few weeks

[north lynx]

Niritti hard is the preferred niritti since it has the highest epic/ legendary drop rate, while also being much faster than ns or Legend

If you have a luck build new farming methods open but no one has a luck build

[soft pelican]

nirriti in sea is such a wonky experience people seem to genuinely enjoy playing it

so everyone is taking their time

or its just me pugging into people who enjoy it all the time

[compact folio]

i run pub que in nirriti ns and i always find 2 randoms after max 2 minutes

[fierce light]

Can I continue building the same jades as last season? Chain Crush and all that

• If you're decently built, you can continue. Mainly only Justina prefers it right now for bossing, but still good for general mobbing.

Or is there something better this season?

• Thunder Scorch Surge is better as it's not affected by the accumulation nerfs and Viper has a particularly fast start up on her Counterstrike.

Also 2x moderation on one jade is ass correct?

• No, as long as you have the correct amount of Windfalls and don't go above 2 rares on one jade, you'll end up with the same stats (assuming you're going for 2 rares on each jade).

[rocky oriole]

is it worth to swap out 2 souljades for 2 luck souljades? I have the purple +1000 and gold +20% luck, but I don't know if that's worth it

[compact folio]

i checked the rates now and i havent noticed it yet that they have the same rates on hard - ns - legend

[rocky oriole]

2,574 is my overall luck with it

[north lynx]

Probably not. Luck builds are a late game luxury item. Focusing on getting a starting build and have later mats for curios would be more ideal

[rocky oriole]

o7

[north lynx]

You need around 4-5k luck before the returns start being noticeable

[rocky oriole]

rip 😔

[fierce light]

Yeah i wish they labeled better what they're using to calculate the returns for Luck in CN. But it definitely seems to be more effective the lower your Rewards % is some reason.

[north lynx]

It probably has allot to do with 15 fatigue runs

And it having more yields there

And just 75% being where people grind 15s

You get the same souljade amount at 100 and 75 in 15s it feels like

So luck increasing those to legendaries is good

At least assuming it's not a high chest run like forest peril

[north lynx]

Yeah, it's pretty silly that's the case too.

We wish ns and Legend had better droprates so they were worth grinding

[nimble heart]

Much appreciated 🙏

[torpid idol]

any tips on immovable nightscream

chore to play through, i get to wave 7 and it just colapses

[balmy coral]

I can help u later in 5 hours thou.

There's really just no getaway tips for it u just clear it.

[torpid idol]

dub :3

[thorn narwhal]

even 1 at 150%

[thorn narwhal]

starting to prefer NS over hard recently, hard is becoming way too boring and don't even get to enjoy the build

[exotic canopy]

they couldve changed the stages again like last season

[north lynx]

Amazing

[exotic canopy]

do people play triple gold key peak past 150% or do they go back to ruins for the rest? still not sure whats optimal afterwards aside from inferno

[balmy coral]

That's a hell ton of catch up

Lol

[balmy coral]

Only til 150%

You'd still want to run peak after 150% if u need jades since ruins drops is really shit.

That's on u if u use gold key or not

Since it's gonna be so long before inferno opens.

[exotic canopy]

ty

[fierce light]

Save Gold Keys for 150% only. Purple Keys after, or you'll likely run out before Inferno is out.

[thorn narwhal]

from just first 600

@fierce light its so frustrating that sheer momentum doesn't go well with kylin parries, i just realized does that mean no point of picking any counter rings?

[fierce light]

Yeah, i think they made it not count as a Counterstrike for balancing reasons.

[cursive fable]

posion build bow will shred peak boss?

it feels like it

[fierce light]

Yeah, at max build, a single Void Destroyer would hit for roughly 84% the damage of a Scorching Lv. 12.

[cursive fable]

i feel like t.scorch is only good for yamas

posion build is more useful in group content etc

[fierce light]

Yeah Bow build has much better uptime than Scorching in Trios content.

[drifting lance]

🎲 | 𝖘𝖈𝖆𝖗𝖇𝖔𝖉𝖞, I choose t!

[valid roost]

Is there a cap on windfall stats? I'm assuming the next step is just filling the gaps with a couple more windfall stats but I'm not sure if I should focus on something else besides that

[fierce light]

Windfall

• Capped by the other attributes on the Souljade.
  Moderation
• Caps at +100% (4x)
  Scorching
• Caps at Level +12 (4x)

[north lynx]

Valda musket scorch has to be the strongest build rn right

[fierce light]

Yeah, pretty easy to make too since it wants 4 of each rare.

[plain spire]

Actually not easy still not finish on mine and spent already 2000 fragments on it, the game won't cooperate and gives tons of windfalls and scorching became hard to get. imo it's the most expensive build 444

[fierce light]

Got pretty unlucky statistically then.

[plain spire]

i swear game can mind read, when you want scorching game be like "nah windfall/moderation for you" 💀

[north lynx]

Easy to start, but the same as everything else to finish

At least you can get away with 3 scorching or 3 mod, just because it's so strong 4 procs of 9 scorching is still better than 2 procs of 12

[fierce light]

If you're lucky, you'll run into 3/3/3. Then from there, only the last one will want one specific rare.

[north lynx]

And 3 mod is doable cause of the soaked potential working on all ele accum, and triple accum procs mod

So you'll probably not feel bad till it's finished

Unlike other builds

[balmy coral]

Scorching was like the easiest and fastest to get

The game just let me spend a lot for one rare.

[balmy coral]

75% drops

Istg I didn't get this drop at 100%

[north lynx]

I did

Ruins just kinda be ruins and is rng city

[balmy coral]

Ye my drops in ruins have so bad this week

[balmy coral]

75% with elixir for last run

[fierce light]

I wonder if that's why luck is more effective at low rewards

They do some kind of rounding up

[balmy coral]

Ye it do feel that way fr

Luck bumps up the lower the %reward

[north lynx]

I love that tech so much

I've been doing it every time now

Very good discovery

[balmy coral]

It do be expensive but most of time it's worth it

[valid roost]

Thank you thank you

[valid roost]

Even at 100% drops it sometimes feels like I get jack all for drops in ruins, it's crazy

[fierce light]

Wouldn't it be better to use it around 331 - 420 fatigue for an extra 2 runs worth of drops at 150%?

[north lynx]

Only an extra 1, and because fatigue % and crystal drops aren't related and crystals are extra valuable post peak liquidation it is more valuable

But I also do both

Cause both are good idk

• it's the only way to consume more than 2400 fatigue

I just prefer the post 75% tech cause i value crystals more, especially when peak roles around so I can leak elixirs into the start of next reset

Sometimes peak grinders get cold feat after 10-12 runs too and I gotta do solo stuff without them, or I'll be at the mercy of whoever I find in #🐲┃showdown-lfg

[torpid idol]

you still down? :3

sorry for the lateness

[balmy coral]

Ye

what server are u in?

[torpid idol]

na?

[balmy coral]

send ID

[torpid idol]

8634700150164

[balmy coral]

Invite sent

[torpid idol]

got it

[quaint girder]

tfw

you reroll into 5 rares but theyre all your 5th mod

instead of windfall

[fierce light]

I keep them if it's on a core jade

Like Successive Ice Blast/Frozen Blast

[balmy coral]

pain

[balmy coral]

I can help u later.

I'm so hungry

[torpid idol]

Ahhhh i see

[balmy coral]

if u have nirriti open just play normal/hard

[brazen pasture]

!ticket

[quaint girder]

It's not, it's Thunderous Lotus for my DT Lotus build

[amber terrace]

lol, effect dual halbert on mobile pretty than pc ver

[balmy coral]

Yuup

[lone anvil]

finally!

[cloud river]

lmao aim training in naraka
impressive, wp

[rough linden]

Can anyone help me with Windswept Wasteland Nightscream

[rocky oriole]

for quitting after 3 for enigma, do I just return to lobby?

[lone anvil]

sea?

[north lynx]

Ya

[north lynx]

Again?

I can again if you need it

[north lynx]

Impressive

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-impressive-very-nice-coping-patrick-bateman-gif-26518058

[proud cliff]

Is there a souljade that inflicts [Soaked] to yourself instead of the enemy in order to take off the burned effect? How do I cause hydroflare?

[fierce light]

Wow, that's a lot of Deadeye Build Rate

[fierce light]

No, there's not. Don't think you'd want that anyway as you'd just take the full damage instantly instead.

[rough linden]

Yeah i need souljades to get stronger

[rough linden]

Yeah

[rough linden]

I really need it are you free hihihu

[rocky oriole]

anyone willing to carry me for omnius doom :>
NA server

[oblique monolith]

Let’s run it

[drifting lance]

🎉 | JayMeeks leveled up!

[oblique monolith]

Send id

[rocky oriole]

8031000080164

ty ty :D

[oblique monolith]

In vc mic not working rn

[quiet swallow]

yo put me in coach

188600090164

[lone anvil]

id

[oblique monolith]

Wya nachos

[rocky oriole]

ah don't have mic rn either

[quiet swallow]

oh thought yall started haha

coming

[rocky oriole]

we did lol

got gapped

[quiet swallow]

LOL

[rocky oriole]

the double boss is pain 😭

i also need to learn the fire boss' attack pattern; I suck at parrying this dude

[quiet swallow]

I might suck

hopefully not

[chrome seal]

Anyone knows when Zai is coming?
Probably December?
Is she gonna have the new whipsword as her weapon?

[north lynx]

I can

If you can't figure it out boot someone, I'll solo carry whoever you boot after

[north lynx]

Sure just lmk when

[quiet swallow]

yay

[rocky oriole]

we got it :>
ty tho

[rough linden]

5294700140168

tks bro

[rough linden]

Can we do it now hhehe

[north lynx]

Sure I'm omw

[fierce light]

Lol I like how this channel explains the thought process behind builds.

[rough linden]

tks tysm

[rough linden]

I keep playing for a while, then it shows “account has an issue” how can I fix it

It keeps making me lag constantly

Aaaaaa

[north lynx]

I'm not sure unfortunately

Can try #❓┃help

[rough linden]

Huhuhu it keeps kicking me out when I play in a squad

[rocky oriole]

Looks like someone had a ismilar issue
try these steps?

[rocky oriole]

wait am I tripping
I thought it costed 10 shrouded jades to imbue a legendary souljade

[soft pelican]

if you can understand chinese that is

[drifting lance]

🎉 | H23FlyingBananas leveled up!

[soft pelican]

oh wait im wasted i can just run this through some ai

[fierce light]

Yeah I just turn on the AI Subtitles

[fierce light]

It's always been 3 per attribute. You need 10 Essence to change the Wielding.

[soft pelican]

amen to globalization ngl kekw

to think that about 45 years ago my old man was spraying rpd at chinese and now i play a game made by chinese and watching guides from bilibili w ai sub

[fierce light]

Cutting the language barrier certainly would bring the world closer.

[soft pelican]

how do musket build compare to bow build rn?

[north lynx]

You have to hit consistent flying musket headshots over and over for it to compare

And bow is still ahead with less effort

[chrome seal]

Anyone knows when Zai is coming?
Probably December?
Is she gonna have the new whipsword as her weapon?

[sleek bronze]

maybe around that and yes she will have whipsword as her weapon

[fickle linden]

gonna have to throw all my dualblade poses into trash and get her a new whipsword pose

[fierce light]

For a more direct comparison:

DMG Coefficients

-# These are the base multipliers for each attack that's used in the calculation of its damage. For reference, the first uncharged melee attack for most heroes has a DMG Coefficient around 1.00.
Musket

• Shoulder Shot: 2.95
• Aimed Shot: 5.60
• Skyrender Shot: 14.00

-# Special Deadeye move that activates after you hit a weakpoint or head.

Bow

• Quick Shot: 2.70
• Stage 1 Charged Attack: 5.45
• Stage 2 Charged Attack: 9.35
• Void Destroyer: 46.25

-# Special Deadeye move that activates when you release charge immediately when fully charged.

Both weapons can headshot, although Musket can put on Scarlet Guanyin for 26.7% stronger headshots. Even then, unless you're really consistent at headshots while airborne, Musket will have a DMG Coefficient of 26.6 per headshot with Skyrender Shot, while Bow can will have a DMG Coefficient of 69.375 with Void Destroyer from headshots much easier.

[north lynx]

Noting that airborne headshots do quite a bit more, along with quick succession shots, but you have to keep momentum and not drop, which also kinda requires high fps to not get musket hitbox glitched. Even if you do, repositioning for b2b headshots while constantly moving up and backwards is hard.

All that just to be equal to bow

You also have to aim down for bonus in air damage

Fun though

Even if you're doing all of that, aegis damage on bow is also much higher

So you're better off playing bow unless you really like feria

[fierce light]

Don't think there's a damage bonus for being in the air. But you can get them off quicker than Bow. Just much harder, especially when boss is moving.

Aegis DMG is much lower cause the DMG Coefficient is much lower than Bow's.

[north lynx]

Yeah it's just the 2 aimed down air shots in quick succession

Void destroyer doesn't do more aegis naturally outside of from damage?

[fierce light]

Nope, just has a high DMG Coefficient.

Similar for Toxin Blast on Poison builds

Headshots/Weakpoint hits don't boost the Aegis DMG, just Health DMG.

[north lynx]

@fierce light flying does around 3k more

No jades no potential

The initial shot also does more

[fierce light]

Weird, unless it's not active in Free Training I got the same damage number from being grounded and airborne

[north lynx]

13692 airborne 10247 grounded

This is in free training

Are you landing then shooting?

[fierce light]

8749 grounded and airborne

Even when I rapid fire it before it aims in, 8749. No jades/potential.

[north lynx]

I'm dumb I broke aegis lol

You're right

And I do have burn potential on so my attack is higher

Yeah so just quick succession in air

[fierce light]

I'm glad they added the ability to change the potential in there

[cursive fable]

what is void destroyer may i ask

[fierce light]

The attack Bow uses in Deadeye

[north lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-inside-anime-loveiswar-kaguya-gif-13628541

Me looking at this last 300 fatigue like

[fickle linden]

https://tenor.com/view/feels-good-man-nicolas-cage-gif-5444501

me just spending only first 600 fatigue by playing 2 daily games per day

[fierce light]

It's crazy, last season got me scared to work on any builds.

[fickle linden]

and i'm still gonna have enough materials to build atleast 2 new builds this season when curios hit

well atleast might be stretch, but 2 new builds should be fine since alot of builds use existing jades anyway

[fierce light]

Having a lot of fun with Matari's dedicated poison build, despite only being 40% built.

[balmy coral]

Can't wait for peak- can't use my build outside of Doom.

[turbid agate]

Haven't been keeping up w stuff. Any consensus on new builds? Specifically for new jades. @fierce light

[fickle linden]

ooff peak opens 23rd

long wait

[fierce light]

Top Tier builds atm are Thunder Scorch (Surge), Ice Surge & Bow Poison Surge

[turbid agate]

I saw someone running ice lotus build w depth blast instead of sub zero, is that better? Or?

[fierce light]

That made you unable to run Chain Crush with Lotus, so you can sub Frostbite Chain out with Depths Blast or Sub-Zero Seal.
-# You can't equip Ice Root and Ice Shatter together anymore.

Accumulation-based Lotus builds got nerfed by the new potential.
-# Accumulation bonus for Ice was reduced from +50% to +40%, Poison reduced from +70% to +40%, and a condition of having a Lotus active was added, making Lotus builds have really bad starting accumulation.

[north lynx]

I'm just slamming windfalls on my luck build

[balmy coral]

Good I'm off tomorrow can grind all day.

[fierce light]

Lol just had to scroll up a bit.
TL-DR: Bow is the best Ranged Weapon atm.

[north lynx]

Is bow better or chicken crossbow?

[fierce light]

I hope they do make Crossbow into a really strong Burst Rifle.

I think ima save up enough mats to reach this estimate before I spend any.

So:

• x5,130 Crystals
  -# 999 × 5 + 135
• x10,260 Fragments
  -# 999 × 10 + 270

[north lynx]

I built a crossbow build for my gf 2 seasons ago prepping for the ranged update

Go figure they release it last lolol

[fierce light]

I thought they would've added some dedicated jades for Deadeye by now.

[shrewd basin]

Can’t wait to hit a boss for 36k damage in cannon DE

[viscid wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-explosion-explodes-cat-explodes-gif-10311420692458175149

[fierce light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_LwwPjVHRY

[shrewd basin]

[soft pelican]

how are swarm builds doing too

if they arent catching up to bows are they beating other ranged weapon now or is it still trailing behind musket

[fierce light]

Bow > Swarm > Musket >> Pistol

[viscid wraith]

not the ">>" 😭

[soft pelican]

damn is swarm gonna make wuchen climb up the meta a little bit then

[north lynx]

Swarms move itself is stronger than void destroyer

It's just like

Slow to build up and slow deadeye

The 1.0 void destroyer trick far outclasses

[fierce light]

Yeah can get 2 Void Destroyers off in the time it takes you to use Swarm's.

Swarm does have the advantage of preserving charge when dodging though and a quick active animation.

[soft pelican]

thunder scorch builds arent gonna be good for ti r

[fierce light]

Curios will take over then

[cursive fable]

crossbow incoming for range?

that would be fun

[soft pelican]

its more that i dont want to be third leg in ti

my build is still ghetto as hell so i at least want to pull okayish damage w what i have

[fierce light]

If you have a basic Ice Surge build, should be set for TI.

Thunder Scorch will still work since you can charge it pretty fast on all the mobs

[soft pelican]

guess i should max that out as my first proper build

[fickle linden]

what tier would u rank kylin dedicated build atm @fierce light

idk anything about new builds how good they are

[fierce light]

If you don't have time to charge and use his Ultimate it's pretty bad right now.

If you can, it's comparable to Poison Surge Bow.

[fickle linden]

what about best build for ziping mobbing rn

guess i need to build her something 23rd

[balmy coral]

Ye his rage is his only downside tbh

Smh

[fickle linden]

rage/dmg taken was so nice

💔

[fierce light]

Ice Surge for mobbing in general right now

[lone umbra]

what about old lotus build on zip for mobbing?

i feel it would be pretty viable too on zip since her F has good element accumulation

[fierce light]

If you have it already built, you can use it. Mainly if you plan on strictly fighting mobs and no bosses.

[lone umbra]

yea only for mobbing not for bossing

lotus had very hard nerfs

[fierce light]

Chain Crush is also just pretty busted

[lone umbra]

Yeah

[balmy coral]

He'd be useful in peak still but with a bit of waiting and tons of defuse

He can't do mobbing he's too slow

Rather I think he'd be less of use if u can't summon 3 bosses at once else you'd be wasting his ult

[bold ice]

Oh yeah, get your mobbing build ready

[amber terrace]

V wuchen

[dusty wharf]

kinda fire

[amber terrace]

meow meow

[dusty wharf]

what do I interpret from this ?

[dusty wharf]

whts dis ?

[amber terrace]

V

[dusty wharf]

wuchen's ?

[amber terrace]

yes

[dusty wharf]

also fire

[amber terrace]

look like Yuna in Final Fantasy X

[fierce light]

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[inner moss]

[fickle linden]

stupid bot thinks he can scam us, little does he know that we already deal with RNG too much we would never join "crypto casino"

[raw magnet]

we dont have enough money to be scammed more

[signal kite]

[soft pelican]

im having too much fun w bow wth

it actually makes me realize why people want to find a 3m to play showdown just so they can be the bow leech

[fierce light]

Yeah outside of Ruins, it's plenty strong.

[soft pelican]

is it usable in ti if i try hard enough

[fierce light]

The AoE on it isn't so great. But we'll have to see what they add for Curios.

[heavy gulch]

i wish nirriti ruins was like yamas year ago

with harder bosses

this eyrie or whatever is called

and more omens

now its everything easy af

[amber terrace]

no

i need 1 click spend all fatigues to rewards

[fierce light]

Legend has a good amount of difficulty. Just not worth running is the issue

[shrewd basin]

NS has been pretty fun for my casual trios runs still challenging but still grindable

[north lynx]

I think they should scale up fatigue and make extremely hard ruins

[river stratus]

agree but only about NS and legend

keep nirriti hard same as now

[north lynx]

Agreed

[fierce light]

Yeah, Hard Ruins the only mission with a good fatigue/time/rewards ratio.