👾┃showdown

[whole pebble]

my friend got it from normal map (protect the base)

[hard glade]

I had got rock 3 days ago but not the red portal....

So just keep playing normal mode to get the rock, then you have a chance to get Inferno hero?

Also anyone knows when I will start seeing these curse box?

[spice canyon]

Clear 3 daily weekly quest so, need to wait 2 more weeks

[hard glade]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-impressive-very-nice-coping-patrick-bateman-gif-26518058

[reef path]

what determines the sense of souljades from dropped nirriti?

[flat pier]

your sense lvl

the sense of souljades that drop in nirriti is determined by your highest souljade

[reef path]

ahhh wtf so if im doing nirriti for sense i should just feed everything into 1 souljade for now?

[flat pier]

no.. more like 6

feed all blues to 6 from the previous season o.o

[reef path]

ah so its an average of your top 6? only started showdown this season so my sense is 700

[flat pier]

yeah

https://dark-zer0.github.io/Showdown/build.html?option=1#Ice-Builds

all builds here still work.. I think you cannot go wrong with feeding your blues to yellow jades such as, Successive ice blast, skyfire, defuse flaming blade, defuse raging flame

so for now, i'd say pick any skyfire build and feed your blues to them

until dark zero comes up with a meta build for this season

skyfire storm is the best for now..

[reef path]

yeah i read the sense section which says to do void-space stages, but they deleted that this season

[flat pier]

yep.. so sense farming up until you get around 850-900 is at nirriti and then do the enigma domain first 3 bosses and quit

at least that's what i understood from what they were saying past few days lol

[hidden creek]

🥹

[fierce light]

I know, but those are random

[flat pier]

damn.. i just found out i can solo nirriti lmao

[fierce light]

Every run you do increases the max level drop for your account. Even if you don't upgrade. It has some weird formula going on

[flat pier]

i didn't know there was solo option down there hahahahaha

[flat pier]

oooh i didn't know that.. thank you

new souljades only drop in nightscream?

[fathom bobcat]

Yes and in level more.

well, some new ones might drop on hard, but not the tastiest ones

[fierce light]

New epics drop on Hard, new Legendaries can drop on Nightscream and Legend.

They said they're increasing the drop rate on the upcoming reset.

Video's done:
https://youtu.be/5aOzCOA3sbQ?si=53CIk5lWpFVIOlYC

[subtle bramble]

Does the sense level increase depend on difficulty? From what I noticed nightscream gave me jades 2 levels higher than my sense (shame I can't complete it lol ), whereas normal and hard just 1 level higher

[fierce light]

It seems kind of random. Not sure what influences it. I've gotten up to 3 levels higher sometimes and 1 level higher other times.

[limpid pecan]

lmao the song background

[tawdry osprey]

Anyone wanna play

SV SEA

[flat pier]

sv?

[flat pier]

ooooh thank you!!! have you come up with a poison build yet?

too high can't come down............

@fierce light how many stacks in attack, health and armor in fire forge would i need to comfortable spam nightscream nirriti?

[hidden creek]

uhh why is there gameplay of a different game

[flat pier]

AD?

or just random filler? lol

[hidden creek]

but he's talking about naraka contents not the other game

[fierce light]

Just random filler lol, ran out of Naraka content i filmed.

[hidden creek]

oh

[flat pier]

waiting for the poison build XD

[fierce light]

4 Legendary Souljades, Cyan Fang (on heroes it works with), Defuse Solidification and/or Thunder Mastery

[fierce light]

I doubt it'll ever be as comfortable as Void Space was.

[hidden creek]

do you guys do charged vertical or left then right on gs?

[fierce light]

If no Wielding Souljade, then:
U. Horizontal → U. Vertical → U. Horizontal
where U. = Uncharged.

[hidden creek]

aight

[fathom bobcat]

No, it doesn't. You can grind level sense in normal Nirriti more successfully than on higher difficulty levels.

[flat pier]

oh i thought sense lvl is best farmed in Enigma Domain first 3 bosses?

[fathom bobcat]

Yes, if you have right level of sense and lots of keys.

It's more favorable on the fatigue/reward ratio, as I understand.

[flat pier]

question, souljade choice gifts don't let you choose the souljades if you have not defeated the specific stages?

[fathom bobcat]

But it's worth realizing that by doing grind in Nirriti you're closing out challenges and hidden rings.

[fathom bobcat]

🤔

Yes, as I understand it. You have to go through all levels on nightmare to have full choice.

[flat pier]

i mean, i cannot choose "Miasma Dive" if I have not unlocked it by finishing "VibrationsNIGHTSCREAM" from a souljade choice gift pack. right?

[flat pier]

ahhh that sucks lool ok XD thank you hehehehehe

[hollow herald]

Am I imagining things, or do these new bosses now know how to bait the charge blue?

[signal kite]

@flat pier bruh

💀

Touch grass bruh

[hidden creek]

bait?
you mean they release their blue later than usual?

[flat pier]

hahahahahahaha

new season.....

[hollow herald]

right

[hidden creek]

it's a mechanic, has existed since forever

[flat pier]

they do that with their normal attacks too.. it started with Korvine and Don Don....

Don Don would charge so uber long ......

[hidden creek]

but on previous seasons it only appear on high lv contents bosses

[flat pier]

takes forever to land his claw swipe....

[hidden creek]

now it's everywhere

[flat pier]

yep.. now even the bombermen are doing that hahahaha

[hollow herald]

I just feel it's more difficult to time the defuse

[flat pier]

new bombermen with 2 knives

[hidden creek]

https://streamable.com/9aup8p

they do this too

[flat pier]

idk.. but all old bosses, their moves we've learned by heart now o.o

new ones and new mobs are just... well... new....

[flat pier]

where be u bruh?

[signal kite]

That doesn't mean u have speedrun it within a week and then u will be gone for 6months again

[safe umbra]

what is this?

[amber terrace]

to get red anima ring

[spice canyon]

a requirement to get red anima ring (aka red souljades)

[safe umbra]

aaahh Thanks

[flat pier]

i won't be gone again XD

[flat pier]

i have still not seen it lol

[fluid steppe]

Yo guys, havent play this for a long time and wonder if you can help a bit, I like Feria and Wuchen but dont know exactly how I should play them, the same for the build and potential tab, any tip?

[supple crown]

Can you get useless rock in normal mode ?

[flat pier]

https://dark-zer0.github.io/Showdown/build.html?option=1#Burn-Builds

[flat pier]

here

[flat pier]

probably not

[supple crown]

He got inferno and useless rock in normal nirriti ?

[fluid steppe]

thanks buddy

[fierce light]

Oh snap we got some people back on Xbox

I can't wait to get a cracked build like this tbh

[short meadow]

I have this but i Dont know which potential is good for viper ice

[river stratus]

frost douse potential maybe?

[fierce light]

Tried it out on Tianhai, you'll have to slacking on your Toxified management for it to bring your Armor down all the way.

[fierce light]

You don't go Ice, you go Mod Poison now.

[short meadow]

full poison? oh no

I was running 6 ice blessings

this is why my viper seems shit

Nowi got it

[fierce light]

Something like this for a start

[short meadow]

for viper modaration poison!

[short meadow]

Dmn i was using this for my ice viper

[amber terrace]

[hidden creek]

doesn't have to be down on all armor, half of armor down with 1 HP is already bad enough
my point is using backfire is risky and kinda not worth for what it brings
obviously you could run that if you want to, like there's people who run copper ward on hellhole omen cuz why not

[fierce light]

It could be cause I'm higher than the Sense Level for that mission

But it didn't bring me below 90% armor it looked like.

[hidden creek]

like, if you don't mind getting 1shot by a random attack of a mob fly out of nowhere then sure

[amber terrace]

can i replace defuse with inceration?

[fierce light]

Yeah, but I'd only recommend that for Moderation builds

[amber terrace]

sure, im using 100% moderation

[mortal yew]

now cn server viper is 19s

[fierce light]

Oh then ofc

It's crazy how quick CN is with building things

[mortal yew]

this build

lol

[amber terrace]

lmao, i think poison build + scorching 12 + draco + counter

[fierce light]

Making a build for a specific stage is crazy

[short meadow]

can you show me which one is poison mod?

[fierce light]

#👾┃showdown message
This?

[amber terrace]

4 yellow jades, backfire, inceration

[empty rampart]

it's not a specific stage i think it's new for bugged scorch apply

free parry

[short meadow]

Yesh gotcha

[fierce light]

Oh I see, so we have a dedicated Scorching set now.

[amber terrace]

hmm how many % atk backfire buff?

20%?

[fierce light]

Yeah 20%.

[mortal yew]

no

poison cant fast than this build

[amber terrace]

hmm i will replace backfire with renewed vigor

get % atk while get heal

[mortal yew]

boss even dont do any thing

this build

[mortal yew]

scorching u wanna dmg u have to take copper

[amber terrace]

ok

[fast pond]

@fierce light hey man do you know a build that works on every character now? i've been running the thunderbuild on wuchen but i don't think it's really viable anymore?

was running this

do you know a good meta build that works everywhere? along with the potential path :x

[spice canyon]

it's a safe build and works everywhere and everyone

Burn and (probably) poison are meta for now, some end game player also has unique build with scorching rare attribute

[ebon parrot]

does this work with other heros too?

[spice canyon]

Technically everyone can use it, but viper has the most advantage because her skills fill thundershock by much

[ebon parrot]

ah i c

[spice canyon]

a small clip on how this scorching playstyle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGxiTrs73dg

You want to counter twice when thundershock are full

[fierce light]

I've been running this so far. Seems like the best option. Outside of Scorching Build.

Stormstride Sword is mainly to beef up his Defuse Counterattack and Martial Skill.

[empty rampart]

i just hope there is a real bug with numbers and they gonna fix that

being able to do that amount of dmg in this game is too stupid. We are getting few stages in a month, and now u can just spend 15 sec to do a boss fight lol that's just stupid

[fierce light]

Looks right to me, based on the buff they gave Scorching. 0.11 → 0.25 is 227% of what it was before.

Does more damage than Ember, Defuse Flaming Blade & Defuse Raging Flame combined at Lv. 12.

[empty rampart]

i mean not a single build can do that much dmg so fast. If everything going to be tuned to this dmg im just prob gonna leave

playing with 1 build every season is boring as f

[fierce light]

Yeah and it sucks even more that it relies on Rare Attributes.

With there being no pity for it, it's too big of a gap

[empty rampart]

Tbh i had a blast rn playing old build in solo for 7-8 min to do culmination stage it's fun
Doing everything in a blink of eye doesn't make any sense

[fierce light]

For now it's looking like for new players they'd want to set up a basic Poison build, and work on a Scorching build.

[empty rampart]

that dmg is not normal

[fierce light]

It's going to be even stronger once players can get this. Straight up 30% more damage multiplied on top.

[empty rampart]

like fire dmg overall

[fierce light]

I understand they wanna make Scorching good, but they should've made it a Souljade equal to Level 6 Scorching instead.

[amber terrace]

if they don't change it before enigma peak

so they ez pass it

[empty rampart]

There is no competition in a game where is 1 build just destroys all the logic in game

[fierce light]

Yup, 2 Scorch Thunder Builds and 1 Mod Poison build for super fast completion.

[amber terrace]

pass enigma peak <5mins

[fierce light]

Going to be like playing Enigma Topaz

[mortal yew]

any hero

[fast pond]

thank you i'm definitely gonna use this! what potential path do you use?

[zenith swallow]

is there any diff by playing nirriti hard or nightscream for rewards?

[fast pond]

thank you so much ❤️ i'll try to get your build overtime and use it

[fierce light]

Nightscream can drop rewards from Nightscream missions (ex: new Legendary Poison Souljades).

[zenith swallow]

so if i want just lvl up jades i can play any diff?

or there is limit

power drops

[wispy garnet]

Why u not using last red right one? But instead green before that?!

[amber terrace]

stamina + aegis break

[supple crown]

Damn got useless rock with tarka but no red ring 😦

[amber terrace]

bruh, im even not has useless rock

[supple crown]

its useless why u wanna hav it

[amber terrace]

nah, i need it to get red anima ring

aka red souljade

[fierce light]

Couple of reasons:

1. For Wuchen, having Aegis-Break Rage is the most important since his DPS without it is pretty mediocre (nearly doubles the DPS of his standard Rotation: Horizontal Throw → Martial Skill).
2. Toxin Blast and Toxified don't scale from Poison Blast DMG, so it ends up being a low priority stat.

[supple crown]

I feel like wuchens chain defuse is slower for some reason. Felt anything like it ?

[fierce light]

He has an awkward delay after his Defuse Counterattack if that's what you mean?

Think he has the fastest chain Defuse though, only one that can fully Defuse bosses when they use their Charge Attacks.

[supple crown]

yes I cant chain some attacks anymore feels like its delay is longer now if I'm not hallucinating

[dusk plover]

Great….. knowing them too instead of rebalancing things they’re just going to either nerf it too bad or buff up enemies too much to compensate

I got rid of all my scorchings last season 😓

[hard glade]

Wondering what potential they must be using ..

[hard glade]

@spice canyon this build on that video you shared I suppose?

[spice canyon]

Your average burn potential build

[mortal yew]

yes

[hard glade]

Oh so the same burn potential with a crazy thunder power

And scorching touch to fry that boss

[spice canyon]

You only utilize counter from thunder to proc scorching

No damage from element itself you can if you want to

[hard glade]

Intresting

[fierce light]

Something like this:

[supple crown]

My second useless
normal mode bdw

[spice canyon]

Not so useless

[ebon parrot]

i need the rockk T^T

[buoyant notch]

Is it just me or is ranged pretty strong now

[steep patio]

Does anyone know max boss sence for enigma

[amber terrace]

Nice

[spice canyon]

1020 afaik

[ebon parrot]

idk but using cannon to clear normal mode is satisfyuing

[fierce light]

Ranged buffs stack up pretty nicely cause of the blessings

So easy to get a Cannon build running.

[tepid geode]

hey @fierce light , if you don't mind! when lower level and getting going...is there a way to target farm souljades?

like, this is what i'm workin with...lol

[fierce light]

For now I'd say your priority is just to level up. I'd recommend just farming Nirriti's Ruins - Normal to level up faster or going through Nirriti's Ruins - Nightscream and hope it drops what you're looking for. They're supposed to be increasing the drop rates of Souljades after reset, so might be better to wait till then to do Nightscream.

[tepid geode]

word, thank you.

is there a website or database somewhere that has community builds i can refer to later?

nvm

just checked pins

[fierce light]

Yeah the builds are from last season, but they're still valid.

[tepid geode]

did a little advanced gamble, got overlord

[mortal yew]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fm0o-AAqig

[tepid geode]

one more if you don't mind...should i have received this reward for upgrading my edition? or are showdown and herald's trial different?

[fierce light]

Well it gives a skin you can use on Tarka Ji's weapon. Hero Coins are helpful for unlocking Heroes in Showdown as well.

[tepid geode]

nah i'm saying, i have the standard edition,but it didn't give me the reward there for some reason

i dunno

[amber terrace]

u can ask in #❓┃help

[tepid geode]

tyvm

[amber terrace]

or check ur mail game

[fierce light]

Yeah not sure on how that works.

[hearty rivet]

Ohhhh 9 stars doesn't have to be acquired in one go for the Season challenge! whew

[fierce light]

Immovable is annoying to try to 3-Star

[hearty rivet]

Yes! Although haven't been able to finish this week the last mission either, yet v.v Last Wednesday I was able to solo it for 3star but today it just didn't happen neither in party nor solo :/

[amber terrace]

mmoderation=))

[hearty rivet]

Yeah in that mission the moderation viper build felt so rewarding, even with only 70% moderation.

[fierce light]

Feels like everyone is so stacked on Rare Attributes but me lol

[hearty rivet]

I have like 9 rares total between 2 builds. 😔

[flat pier]

you and me both T_T

I don't even know how they got enough materials?

[hard glade]

Looks like poison will be a game changer!!!

Tried poison it's crazy

[hard glade]

Not mine but some people save

[tropic bramble]

Correction people play this game too much @hard glade tbh showdown holds my attention for like a month but then they add nothing and fix zero bugs for forever so why would I keep playing my attention span can’t handle the same thing for half a year

Honestly they could do so much more with little effort like add a male and female character at the same time I mean they’re clearly not against using the same weapon twice

[crisp silo]

Your like me

[plucky fog]

you can fast chain because potent

[amber terrace]

lmao, i need it

[hard glade]

Not my savings ... I spend the same week 😭

[crisp silo]

Ok good luck man\

[hard glade]

Showdown mode has improved & is still improving... Ik it's alot of grinding but PVE mode is designed that way.

Some people like it & some won't.

If you love it then things will happen if not then move on to next best thing

[flat pier]

how do they even save that much? i mean, i can save it but i wont even manage to get into top 100 while saving and not working on my souljades
i mean to get double windfall in a souljade and save that much is quite impossible o.0

[flat pier]

In Warcraft Troll voice... "I feel you mAnnnn..."

[fierce light]

They save so much and be so full of rares I just don't understand. Old recasting system is going away tomorrow iirc as well.

[amber terrace]

[fierce light]

There's no reason to save potential boosters anyway.

[amber terrace]

sure i used it

[stray osprey]

can someone tell me what bar is this

why am i getting shocked nonstop after the bar fils up

this is in nirriti's ruins

[flat pier]

thank you... it's like some people know how to duplicate ... o.0

[neat yarrow]

Is my max dropped souljade sense just going to go up 1 each game? Tried farming chapters way over my level (e.g. as an 820 sense, cleared recommend level 830 w max drop 840) but getting 825 then 826 then 827 drops

[flat pier]

not saying they do that... but fe3els like it

[drifting lance]

🎉 | lexy_bot leveled up!
| Extra rewards were added for missing levels
ℹ | Level up messages can be disabled for the guild with owo level disabletext

[hard glade]

Maybe, they invest/ invested all in 1 set and then keep saving the rest until the right time comes

And make other sets but don't prioritise other sets

[hard glade]

Yellow bar is showing thunder ⚡ accumulation,
once full you have to Counter for releasing the damage towards the enemy.
Blue bar is ICE, once the bar is full it releases ice blast if you have ice blessing, if youre getting frozen then you have to defuse before it happens.

[fierce light]

Yellow Bar

• Thundershock meter, when filled strikes you with 4 strikes of Divine Thunder.

Light Blue Bar

• Frostbite meter, when filled freezes you after a short animation.

It's likely you got the Thunder Blessing to tier 2, allowing you to parry Divine Thunder, resetting your Frostbite and giving an attack boost.

[stray osprey]

i see now

i was legit clueless when it keeps hitting me nonstop

thank you so much

[amber terrace]

u forget poison bar

[fierce light]

I was just explaining the ones on that image l{lol

[amber terrace]

oh ok

[ebon parrot]

Saw somewhere abt like every 3 jades dropped, up 1 level, every 6 up 2 level

But like if u drop 8 jades a match, the 2 leftover doesn’t carry over

I think

Don’t quote me :D

[neat yarrow]

🫠🫠

Thanks though!

[whole pebble]

holy crap... that's some saving..

[amber terrace]

i love poison mushrooms, cuz i can active this jades so much

[flat pier]

any1 doing dooms?

[flat pier]

@fierce light so it is not good to use skyfire anymore?

yama rank solars are all using ember and stuff?

[hidden creek]

hydroflare builds has always been dealing more dmg than skyfire burn build

doesn't mean that skyfire burn build is sht atm

i still run that build and i beat solar 2 in 2 mins

[flat pier]

hmm i am scared of going armor less

[hidden creek]

and i'm not even a good player

[flat pier]

what's your sense?

[hidden creek]

when i beat it my sense is -40 to the recommend sense level

[hidden creek]

don't run copper ward then, just get defuse aegis break instead

how high ur dmg is is meaningless if you're dead

[flat pier]

mine is still 850...

at platinum 2 XD

[hidden creek]

go level it up lol

we all did

not like our sense suddenly went up 200 or something

[flat pier]

oi.. i been lvling.. >_> 14 hours straight o.o

it resets tonight right?

fatigue i mean?

yep, nvm, i found it.. 11 hours

[hidden creek]

how do you guys play showdown valda?

[woeful monolith]

the funny / real answer || Ya dont || lol ....|| just playin ||

[hidden creek]

like, does she have anything that make her worth picking over other heroes?
her aoe is shit, her aegis break is shit, her F isn't a combo breaker and the aegis break power is shit, her V... do you even use it? her range is shit, attack speed isn't even that fast and she got defuse solve which is ok atm but still worse than defuse combo

[woeful monolith]

Honestly in my opinon no, I beleive the soak ability was it

[neat yarrow]

I play her with an ice build just bc it seems fitting 😭 it sucks after having played wuchen, but it's still some fun to me

[hidden creek]

valda is the last character that i havent got to lv 20

chug some pots and get her to 12 then i go play some games and holysht she's just bad

i don't have much experience on playing her so i thought maybe i'm missing something

but yeah looks like i'm not

[neat yarrow]

She was my main last season bc I was determined to get good at her and it was painful lol

Defuse definitely feels much better this season though!

Maybe there's something I'm also missing for valda though 😭 ik egyptian was #1 valda on ps (to be fair, they went for number 1 on everyone); maybe they have valda hacks for us

[hidden creek]

i just wanna know

if valda got anything good

that make her worth picking over other heroes

look like she doesn't

[spice canyon]

Valda 2nd charge attack hit pretty hard if you can make use to it, Ice and burn build is way to go

[wispy garnet]

even the water effect (if enemies are wet they do 5% less dmg) is just too weak. 20-25% would make a difference

maybe water will be an Element in future and then gets tuned

[flat pier]

@fierce light help us with culmination nightscream 😮

[round glacier]

Vert charge into eagis is pretty decent on valda

Her ultimate is not bad now

Certainly better options though

[wispy garnet]

We need changeable weapons on heros. I would love to play matari but not with dagger. Defuse depends on Weapon. Some ppl would adore to play Valda but NOT with spear I'm for certain.

[subtle bramble]

She's also terribly incompatible with thunder pull+counter 😭 and I use that often in my builds

Wish they reworked her a bit

[flat pier]

i love dagger.. i just wish they would make the dagger defuse feasible with the current builds o.o

[fierce light]

Skyfire was more of a mobbing build. It got nerfed a bit with the reduction to Blazing Flame (takes a noticeable amount longer to proc Skyfire). Also since we can get bonus HydroFlare damage, it'll be even further behind HydroFlare build.

[limpid pecan]

maybe they should make hydroflare damage affect skyfire buildup too?

[spice canyon]

at that moment just go elemental build for mobbing

[fierce light]

The two ultimate buffs she received recently are pretty good. Iirc you throw 1 Light Spear + 2 Heavy Spears when boss is up, or spam Heavy Spears when they're down.

Attack combo wise, she does 1st Vertical Charge into Martial Skill (w/ Aegis-Break Rage equipped). Not very high DPS though. She can't use Thunder build cause it affects her in her Ultimate so probably either Burn or Poison right now.

[fierce light]

Can't say that's the case anymore with Yoto Hime vs Temulch's Defuse. Not sure how they're going to implement weapon swapping with their current system.

[fierce light]

Yeah that's how it works in Nirriti, but i think they wanted to keep it separate from HydroFlare builds.

[hidden creek]

can you get all ring collections by running nirriti normal?

i'm missing these

and 2 last secret rings

[spice canyon]

yes

[twin ledge]

Got my double windfall on counter now need to get double on thunder and spring call

And @fierce light did they change valda defuse this season

It feels so much more easier to trigger her defuse in trios and took less stamina

[fierce light]

They fixed Defuse Solve as a whole

[twin ledge]

Ah ok

[twin ledge]

And that flaming defuse in ruins is way to op

[fierce light]

One of the main recommendations I gave in the feedback, glad they did

[twin ledge]

Not even the jade did that much dmg as that ring

It killed mobs with one defuse even on legend

[hidden creek]

yeah lol

the best ring if you're running burn build

[fierce light]

Yeah the Jade does 230% of your Attack per tick. Just the tier 1 of the Ring does 250%.

[hidden creek]

actually not just burn build

[twin ledge]

I love my thunder I only grabbed flaming for quest where had to grab 12 hydro flare in one game

[hidden creek]

i just grab it whenever it appear

[twin ledge]

Did all those type of quest so I can use thunder only for now on

[fierce light]

The one that does bonus damage on Hydroflare is pretty good now too

Tier 1 Blessing basically gives you a free Cloudscorch and that allows you to proc that extra 120% per charged attack.

[twin ledge]

@fierce light I prob won’t be building poison till I finish my thunder completely this season and one I’m done with my thunder I still won’t build it like my skyfire and Draco build like last season

Last season burned me out trying to build 4 builds at once

Well 3 but was working on ice half the season but stopped half way through season

[fierce light]

Ima focus on Poison cause I need a good mobbing build. It's not bad for bossing either.

[twin ledge]

With wuchen thunder is really good can even put more dmg than burn

Both of them is on thunder and they are both at least 30 sense higher u just keep ur distance from boss while they fight up close boss doesn’t even target u which I really like unlike last season

I really like that new boss I can just constantly attack without being attacked I even tried staying behind boss to test and seems to still attack whoever is in front

Just wished all bosses were like this

[fierce light]

Yeah Skyfire build is pointless atm

[subtle bramble]

What's the best way to get more shrouded jades (aside from buying bp because I ain't doin that 🥲 )

[subtle bramble]

Sad bc skyfire is the only jade I managed to get scorching on 😭

[fierce light]

Rare drop from pretty much any mission.

[fierce light]

Not that good on it either cause no Draco Stride

[subtle bramble]

I have bad luck with rare attributes

[twin ledge]

I got rid of my skyfire that had windfall yesterday

Did hesitate tho because it had max hp and max attack on it with windfall and 150 defuse

It most likely won’t be anywhere close as good as last season so was no point to keeping it

[twin ledge]

That why last season I would taking range jades like range ones and recast as random stat on it till a rare appeared and got rid of it for flux

Ended up with I think 29 flux by season ended and ngl I got mad lucky with some of them

[fierce light]

Gotta get the first rare right first

[subtle bramble]

might try this as well tbh tyy

[twin ledge]

I wouldn’t try this till u build what u need to and get the % to a good amount

Took over 1400 recast to even get them

And that’s just because got lucky with like 10 of them by getting the rare by 30 recast

[subtle bramble]

yeah tbh I am even farther from that, first I need to farm alot so I can deconstruct souljades into crystals, I don't even have enough materials for that many recast

[fierce light]

Don't do that until you have 1 rare on each jade. Going to be acquiring rares at half the rate from that.

[twin ledge]

Yea meant to say that too but only do this once u do this

[hidden creek]

lol

[twin ledge]

I only started doing it because I got all jades on my thunder

And got 5 jades with windfall on my skyfire build and put scorching on solid to help in Yama

Which I’m really sad skyfire most likely won’t be good again I really liked skyfire build

So for now on till I max all % on thunder and get double windfall on 2 more jades I’m not building anything else

Prob gonna work on ice after tho

Have 24 flux left and if I can end up getting a 2nd windfall on my spring call and thunder pull within 8 flux ima just use the rest to get some moderation on ice

Seems ice is still better than thunder for bosses other than new bosses

[fierce light]

Oh so it was a bug

[hidden creek]

yeah

[twin ledge]

And why did they change how scorch worked

[fierce light]

Damn they're updating it quick

[twin ledge]

I don’t like how it appys burn now

[fierce light]

https://discord.com/channels/750237703739539497/1279840190193733793

I just made that feedback lol

[fierce light]

It allows you to mob with it, instead of just the single target you hit first.

[twin ledge]

Yea but no good while using thunder

Full thunder build

Not the Draco thunder

[fierce light]

Why wouldn't it?

Your counterstrike would be in range anyway

[twin ledge]

Because to far away from boss for not to apply

Not if ur doing trios

[empty rampart]

Thank god it nerfed

[fierce light]

It's your next melee

[twin ledge]

Wait fr

Ima have to test it when I get home

[signal kite]

what other 2 two jades i should use besides new poison jades I'm confused

[twin ledge]

I swear it wasn’t applying my scorch with melee

[fierce light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGxiTrs73dg

[twin ledge]

I seen that

[fierce light]

The explosion occurs on the next melee

[twin ledge]

But talking about the full thunder build

[fierce light]

Hydroflare just makes the damage instant

The explosion is Scorching.

[signal kite]

@fierce light can u help me

[twin ledge]

I’m not gonna try the thunder Draco tbh

[fierce light]

If you don't run Draco, you're likely going to overstack Scorching.

Assuming you're getting more than 1 Thunder Counter within 18 seconds.

[twin ledge]

Because it’s just gonna change how it works most likely next season and since season isn’t as long as last

With wuchen I can get it up in 10

Tarka around 16 to 15 and viper 12 to 13

[fierce light]

I'm still experimenting tbh.

For Moderation build though you want Incineration + Arcane Thunder.

Other than that, it seems like Defuse Solidification, Backfire, Thunder Mastery, Cyan Fang • Poison-Wielding & Renewed Vigor all have potential.

[twin ledge]

But if I time the hammer thing that’s the last in green potential and only hit boss with 2 thunder counters and purposely miss the other counters it will trigger making me only take 6 to 7 seconds to build my pull up

That hammer charges the thunder pull like 80%

Only bad thing about it is trios

Hard for ur team to see anything

[signal kite]

Okie gotcha

[fierce light]

Hate that there is an internal cooldown on Thundershock build up

[twin ledge]

I really hope they don’t nerf spring call, ice break and sub

[fierce light]

Doubt they will, they already nerfed Sub

[twin ledge]

Oh like how it makes u wait to build it up after countering?

[fierce light]

Yeahh

[twin ledge]

Yea don’t like that much

I feel like they do that because they think thunder would be to op but it won’t

They should really remove the cd

[whole pebble]

why will they increase Niritti's fatigue from 30 to 45!? now you can farm it less. 😦

[twin ledge]

With how showdown is now it’s already hard enough to use thunder on bosses

[twin ledge]

Oh really?

That sounds better

I won’t have to farm that long

[fierce light]

The rewards are going to increase proportionately

Won't take so many hours to burn your fatigue fully

[whole pebble]

ohhh, if that's the case, then it's good. lol i thought it will just increase fatigue but same reward drop.

[fierce light]

Drop quality is improving this upcoming reset

[hidden creek]

idk about this

[plain garnet]

@fierce light Hey dark, currently what is the build and potentials that do the most damage to boses?

[twin ledge]

I use elixers all the way through farming so 45 faster

And darkzero how much fatigue was void last season

I forgot

I need to calculate something

[hidden creek]

isn't it just the sj quality improve not quantity?

[twin ledge]

And I don’t see them increases drops from how many times they shadow nerfed drops last season

[hidden creek]

like
they said they gonna improve the quality of the sj drops
but now they also increase the ftg cost
does it mean that in term of drops nothing changed?

just that we can max out ftg faster

[twin ledge]

Tabbie do u remember how much fatigue void last season used I can’t remember

Was it 30?

[hidden creek]

yeah 30

or is it 60

[fierce light]

Quality is improving on this reset, Quantity on next patch.

[fierce light]

60 fatigue

[hidden creek]

yeah 60, yama is 30

[twin ledge]

Ah ok so it was taking 20 games with elixer

Wait so farming will take longer

Dam and it’s gonna take more elixers than last season I used elixers all the way through till close to end of season where I kinda gave up farming

So ruins did change to 45 fatigue @fierce light ?

[fierce light]

Scorching Thunder does the most right now, but it requires at least +9 Scorching to be good.
Souljades

• Thunderpull
• Thunder Counter
• Thunderproof
• Draco Stride
• Defuse Flaming Blade
• Incineration

[fierce light]

It's going to change after next update, next week

[twin ledge]

Wait are yall sure it’s 45 the math seems weird

[plain garnet]

Ohh I see, thank you very much, I will try it

[twin ledge]

Ah next update when is that?

[fierce light]

It's 30 right now

[hidden creek]

is it just me or on this season farming potential point takes much longer compare to previous season?

[fierce light]

Void was really quick cause 60 fatigue

[fierce light]

Next Wednesday

[twin ledge]

Ok with 45 and elixers all the way through it will take 26.6 runs so 27 if I don’t use elixers the last game

Dam takes 40 games with elixer all the way through atm then

[hidden creek]

so potential point earned was based on hm ftg spent?

[fierce light]

You're buying Elixirs?

[twin ledge]

Yea I use elixers all the way through farming roguish does too

[fierce light]

Yeah, it's an equal ratio for everything, but you got more out of your potential boosters running Void Space.

[twin ledge]

He maxed his fatigue in 4 hours after reset last season I used to max it in 6 till last month of last season

The last of month last season I stopped using elixer because the drops just wasn’t enough

I didn’t use any this week because was doing the enigma farming Strat

[fierce light]

Only thing I don't like is that they aren't going to increase the fatigue for the higher difficulties so it's just going to end up like Enigma Peak, only run it for the challenges and never again.

[twin ledge]

Wait nvm I used 4 in ruins to use 1k fatigue

[twin ledge]

I wish they stop nerfing drops it’s to unbalanced as it is or shadow nerfing

It was so unbalanced that I have almost 10k soul jades fragments and almost never had any crystals to use

That’s why i stopped using blue jades to get purple and gold jades and just leveled up 2 blue jades last season to max sense and used them this season to get head start on my sense this season

But that didn’t much because it only increased my thunder by 21 cause it started taking 10 just to increase one by 790

The drops just need to be balanced more don’t make sense I got that many soul jade fragments and never any crystals to use

[subtle bramble]

Will this still be viable after they fix the scorching bug?

[twin ledge]

And dark after reset today at like 6 est u down to do ruins?

[fierce light]

Yeah, it just won't deal double the damage of all the burns in the game combined.

[fierce light]

Yeah

[amber terrace]

@fierce light did u read new mail?

that mean scorching is fixed?

[fierce light]

Yeah that's what we were just discussing haha

[amber terrace]

hmm so sad for lvl 12

[fierce light]

It's still going to be really good

[supple crown]

Better than poison you mean ?
What about classic burn build vs poison

[drifting lance]

🎉 | qlOxOlp leveled up!

[fierce light]

Depends on the boss. More aggressive bosses HydroFlare pulls ahead. Less aggressive, Poison.

[grim girder]

I missed the latest in-game letter about Showdown adjustments. What was in it?

[supple crown]

Bdw I seen this rn
That video about scorching might be bugged maybe ?

Also nirriti next update will be 45 fatigue per run
This makes enigma a lot better I guess

[fierce light]

#👾┃showdown message

[fierce light]

Not if they adjust the rewards accordingly

[twin ledge]

Yo @fierce light do u think for Yama dmg to boss is important for the thunder build with spring call not the thunder burn?

Cause I’m thinking if game doesn’t make me use 8 or more of my flux to get 2nd windfall on spring and thunder pull I could do 4 jades with double windfall but if dmg to boss is important I’ll use like 15 flux if I don’t have to use more than 8 for ice moderation build

I already have 25% moderation so it’s def doable

[tropic bramble]

Why are they making nirriti cost more?

[twin ledge]

Faster farming and better drops

Void last season was 60 so 45 isn’t gonna be that much

[fierce light]

Honestly think 1 Windfall is the optimal way to go for Thunder Build. You get 4.5 (1.5 + 1.5 + 1.5 + 0) Attribute Value vs just 4 (2.0 + 2.0 + 0 + 0).

But yeah DMG to Boss is more important, since you already have a lot of Attack from Thunderpull, Sub-Zero and Spring's Call

[twin ledge]

But since I’m doing my thunder mainly this season double windfall is needed to keep up with other builds for speedrun

Since getting that double windfall dmg with boss down went from 22k to 24k and it’s still only 30% for 2nd windfall

[fierce light]

Yeah the Attack is mainly to help with both mobbing and bossing, but don't really need it if you get enough Divine DMG

[twin ledge]

I still have 23.2 dmg to boss atm with 4 jades with 1 rare

[fierce light]

Wait

[twin ledge]

Oh but I’m not home atm but my thunder proof atm has 3.9 dmg to boss

[fierce light]

Attack would be better technically.

DMG to Boss just adds onto Divine Thunder DMG, so it would have even more diminishing returns than Attack would at that high of a %.

[twin ledge]

So dmg to boss up isn’t helping my dmg for Yama?

But if I have to I can just do double windfall on sub and ice break with dmg to boss instead of attack or just sub with dmg to boss

I’m already at 400 attack atm

Well about to at 400

Tbh I honestly can’t tell anymore if dmg to boss even helps anymore

[fierce light]

What's your Divine Thunder DMG?

[twin ledge]

Atm it should be 279.1 something don’t know not atm

[fierce light]

It doesn't show ?

[twin ledge]

But it’s gonna be 285 when I get home so I can max that 2nd windfall

[fierce light]

Oh you're not home

[twin ledge]

I’m not home atm

[fierce light]

23.2% DMG to Boss would only increase your Divine Thunder DMG by 8.3%.

[twin ledge]

I just can’t make up my mind if I wanna just do 3 jades with double windfall then if I have at least 16 flux left or just 14 I could do or try getting 3 more jades with moderation on ice

I already have 25% moderation on ice

But I’m not doing this if I have use more than 8 flux to get 2nd windfall on pull and spring

Cause I want to save at least 14 or 16

I’m saving for if any newer jades that could potentially make thunder do more than what current build does might not but anything could be possible

And does awakening and spring call stack?

I feel like with wuchen I could take thunder proof of for some speedruns and use awakening but I never could figure out if springs call stacks with awakening

[fierce light]

They do.

Not any room for it though unless you get rid of Thunderproof, which isn't worth it imo.

[twin ledge]

No with wuchen it’s worth tho

And plus the new hammer thing in green potential builds ur thunder meter up almost fully

If i purposely only hit 2 of my counters and miss the others

It will trigger then hammer for now on by trigger thunder instead of having to counter to trigger it

But ima try it when I get home

If its at least 7 seconds more I won’t do it

Just wish 7 jades was possible

I just want to focus on thunder I’m tried of just having to farming to max sense and then build new meta it’s way to much work

[fierce light]

I think that's what some are doing

Focusing a single build until it's op enough to not need to switch

[fierce light]

But yeah if you're playing like that, Awakening would be worth since you get half the value from Thunder Counter & Thunderproof

[twin ledge]

It’s only possible with wuchen and tarka

But tarka u have to not get hit once

And have to have 2 players that can stay on boss without going down I’ve tested viper she does hit hard but does charge is at fast at universal slash some reason

But wuchen hits the hardest because using martial skill will put u in honed if right potential making u at least 2 to 3k more but like 1k with shield up

Oh btw when ice was using kurumi and buffed me with boss down and fully used skill after my first counter my thunder counter did 38k each counter

So i def gonna have to test when i max my sense for sure

[fierce light]

Yeah she multiplies your damage by x1.4

[twin ledge]

Yea but 38k is crazy

Could only do 10k less last season

[woven shell]

fire build rule all

[fierce light]

I don't think it's worth doing that tbh. Even if you're doing them quickly, you're spreading out 1 Thunder Counter's worth of damage between two.

[woven shell]

thunder is ass

[twin ledge]

The only issue with that hammer thing in green potential btw is that if makes ur team not be able to see

[twin ledge]

I have a Draco build with 3 windfalls and 3 scorching

And btw my thunder was doing more than the burn build when I was able to get the hammer timed right

[woven shell]

neeed 12 scorch total to be viable

[twin ledge]

And they have more than 30 sense more

U dont need u want

[untold marsh]

you gonna screenshot a single instance of you doing more dmg than roguish and post it ?

[woven shell]

9 and 12 scorch is significant enough for u to need it

big damage buff between 9 and 12

[twin ledge]

No im just saying thunder is bad

[woven shell]

roguish wont be happy

[twin ledge]

If they really wanted to they would of dropped way more

[fierce light]

Tbh I could probably calculate the max damage potential of each build

[twin ledge]

But was showing this cause bonker said thunder bad but if they actually tried there hardest they both would of dropped more

[woven shell]

i just feel like thunder is not better than ice mod or even flame build 12 sorch

the thunder accum. is slow

u do the most dps when boss is down

in current meta you dont breka aegis

unles you are pairing with current meta poision

[twin ledge]

If ur wuchen that fixes that

[woven shell]

but you are clown if u are playing poison right now

[twin ledge]

I don’t have poison jades atm got rid of to level up my burn past 970

[fierce light]

Wdym?

[woven shell]

poision build is only good if you are maxed everything

with windfall + full mod

[untold marsh]

poison build is a troll build in china

[fierce light]

Well yeah CN has ridiculous builds as it is

[woven shell]

and theres a lot of bug on poison right now

[fierce light]

What bug?

[twin ledge]

I’m not doing poison I honestly find it cringe tbh I’m only gonna get the 3 main stats for it and stop

[woven shell]

Increase to dmg boss bug

it shouldnt be stacking dmg with that vs. poison damage bonus

[fierce light]

Don't think that's a bug

Probably intentional.

Toxin Blast already hits equivalent damage to Thunder Counter with 264% Divine Thunder DMG

[woven shell]

its probably only good in solo content

when it comes to trio content it sucks

[fierce light]

It's a good build for new players to start with I'd say

Once you start pushing double rares though, Scorching and Mod builds you wanna start going for

[twin ledge]

I don’t like how much aegis poison does its hard to time my thunder with it

[twin ledge]

And question who is this tho just wondering like ur in game name

[woven shell]

also u saw scorch bug fix tomorrow

cant abuse yama anymore = )

[fierce light]

Next yama wasn't going to have Divine Strike anyway

[woven shell]

true so bug abusers cant abuse that strat anymore

[fierce light]

Scorching Lv. 12 still going to hit harder than Defuse Flaming Blade, Ember and Defuse Raging Flame combined.

[woven shell]

i thoguth scorch 12 is 4 ragign flames

[fierce light]

~3.333
Well it's 4 Raging Flames if you just include the Burn damage.

[signal kite]

💀

[woven shell]

sounds about right

im running 12 scorch 4 windfall

i hit pretty hard just from parry

[fierce light]

Crazy that you can charge a full Skyfire and a half with 1 Scorching alone lol

[woven shell]

have to see whatnew builds come out

maybe to replace ember

[untold marsh]

just someone doing the lord's work on the leaderboard

[twin ledge]

Hope u know that was a joke at the time right I don’t care for leaderboards till later on

[untold marsh]

i know johnnyboy no hard feelings

[twin ledge]

?

[flat pier]

o.0

so umm the hydroflare build

[twin ledge]

Please don’t call me Johnny boy it’s not my name I don’t like being called that

Just John

Like real shit my stepdad name was Johnny and I did not like him so don’t call me that just John

[flat pier]

what's the best potential tree for the hydroflare build for now? @fierce light ?

just take everything from the golden bolt side?

we won't be countering so it is pointless to take that part?

[twin ledge]

That’s what I’m still waiting for tbh

Cause I do wanna learn new boss some on my burn

[flat pier]

i still haven't cleared the chapter 6-2 nightscream

any1? XD

[twin ledge]

I would if I was home and plus I’m NA

[flat pier]

serious question though

there's no point to follow the top 3 builds on the leaderboards right now since new builds are coming out, am i correct?

save materials for working on souljades that are proven meta later?

[woven shell]

hydro flare at 31

once maxed out, remove red go blue to unlock hydro 30 damage

[woven shell]

yup

[flat pier]

thank you both

at least, this is it for wuchen for now

hydroflare = incinerate build on showdown guide website, right?

@woven shell @fierce light ?

sorry XD asking too many questions

[fierce light]

Yes

[flat pier]

it works for wuwu too?

[woven shell]

any character

[flat pier]

ooooh not just recommended characters.. i see.. thanks

[fierce light]

The fix to Defuse Solve made it good for everyone

[flat pier]

oh i see

dmg to boss

defuse trigger recovery

and what other stats?

[fierce light]

Health and Attack the most important

[flat pier]

ok.. windfall and scorching replaces dmg to boss or defuse recovery?

[fierce light]

Yes

[flat pier]

scorching > windfall ?

[fierce light]

Yeah

[flat pier]

omg.. i was replacing them 😦

lol

[fierce light]

It wasn't before to the extent it is now.

Scorching 12 was a bit less than half of what it does now

[mortal yew]

lol i mean scorch dmg is right i know how to use that bug i can show u guys

[flat pier]

how do i get to scorching 12?

[mild quiver]

Be really lucky

[fierce light]

4 Scorching 3's or 6 Scorching 2's

[amber terrace]

@fierce light do u update ur guide? I mean added poison build

[mortal yew]

this is the scroching bug

[flat pier]

i don't get it still.. do you have a youtube where you play with incinerate?

I feel like i am not applying burn and dmg output is lacking compared to skyfire

your guide says spam aegis break martial skill but i ran out of time o.0 without killing boss 7 in enigma domain

i don't know what i am doing wrong XD

am i supposed to defuse and counter alternatively to apply burns while dodging?

[flat pier]

@_@ i did not get that at all o.o

[mortal yew]

You will

[fierce light]

I'm confused, it looks like it went off once.

[fierce light]

Spam Aegis-Break?

[mortal yew]

yes thats bug

[tropic bramble]

So they nerfing the bug with scorching?

[mortal yew]

its not

they just fix that bug

[fierce light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6lOLmvPzA4
You play Incinerate like this:

You won't see the actual damage numbers, since Hydroflare hides them for some reason.

[fierce light]

Oh I see, it reapplied the effect after the first one went off even though you didn't parry anything.

[mortal yew]

No, it's just that some moves will have 2 stages of damage at that moment

This one too，All heroes' cleave damage is 2 times

If you give water and then use these moves that deal more than 2 damages in a split second, the evaporation damage will be calculated first, but at that moment another Scroching will also be dealt to the boss.

[fierce light]

Oh that's interesting

Wonder how they even caused such a bug

[mortal yew]

and kurumis Blink Strike is same

[round glacier]

How you di cleave damage?

[mortal yew]

its this

[round glacier]

Vertical strike without charging?

[mortal yew]

yes

[round glacier]

Intresting

[mortal yew]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OslbW5hecEU

[dusk plover]

Honestly this season it’s quicker. People going to have full potential (lv 40, and all the extra potential points) in two weeks compared to 3-4 like last two seasons

[mortal yew]

https://discordapp.com/channels/750237703739539497/1280952620541804617

[dusk plover]

Thought the bug was people were able to proc it twice without countering twice and abusing that?

[dusk plover]

This looked normal?

Just proc the one time? Or were you trying to proc it multiple times since her attack hits multiple times?

[mortal yew]

bro

[mortal yew]

real?

[dusk plover]

It looks like a damage bug there not the procing bug

People were procing scorching multiple times off of one single counter, idk whatelse they would be talking about

[dusk plover]

Also that’s not the scorching damage number that popped up that’s your charge attack number

[mortal yew]

its scorching

[dusk plover]

506 doesn’t take down that much of his health

[fierce light]

I did the math on max build and Sense Level 1030 vs a Sense Level 700 Enemy. Attack and Elemental DMG beats DMG to Boss and Elemental DMG even on Bosses.

[mortal yew]

its Nightscream Culmination Trios

[dusk plover]

This is the damage of your charge attack that popped up. The damage on the health bar is from the scorching

[dusk plover]

Okay? If you think there’s a damage bug going on I’d message support about it. The bug in the notes is the one where people are triggering scorching twice instead of once

[mortal yew]

they already know

[night tiger]

Can someone explain how this is possible?

[dusk plover]

Yeah that’s horizontal charge damage? Almost the same as the number indicator that popped up. The scorching damage still did what it was suppose to indicating from the health bar drop in the first clip, the number just didn’t pop up correctly?

[mortal yew]

...

bro what can i say

[dusk plover]

Yes that’s for the double proccing scorching bug

[mortal yew]

my video is double proccing scorching bug

that is

[mortal yew]

this is double proccing scorching bug

[dusk plover]

Why were you going on about the damage amount being so low then?

[mortal yew]

when did i say

[dusk plover]

Here, and above that saying they weren’t nerfing the scorching bug

[mortal yew]

its Nightscream Culmination Trios if u think that dmg is low i cant say anything

[dusk plover]

First pic only had 506 pop up

[spice canyon]

short answer = spamming lvl 12 scorching damage

[dusk plover]

That’s why I was confused you were saying that when 506 popped up as your scorching went off

[mortal yew]

burn dmg will not show

i think

[dusk plover]

It doesn’t hence me saying that was your horizontal damage number that popped up lol

[mortal yew]

I just want to tell you that this is a double proccing scorching bug but what did you tell me bro

lol

[dusk plover]

I was saying this ^ was about the double proccing scorching bug, idk what other bug you were trying to say it was?

They’re just fixing the bug finally not scorching or anything else

[mortal yew]

double proccing scorching bug how to do ,that is

[dusk plover]

Yes

[mortal yew]

ok bro lol

[dusk plover]

That’s what the patch update is about not something else

They’re getting rid of the bug completely so no one can abuse it anymore especially with the whole thunder counter stuff

[mortal yew]

i mean take with thunder counter parry 2time is not bug

1.is not bug 2. is bug

[dusk plover]

People were procing it multiple times off of one counter and adding that with thunder counter set they were getting major damage outputs

Hence the whole quickness to patch the bug since scorching been bugged

[fierce light]

That's been a thing for a long time tbh

Just was off-meta since Scorching wasn't good then.

[dusk plover]

I honestly had a feeling. Hard to find these bugs until they’re exploited really hard

[mortal yew]

https://v.douyin.com/ihXRJcWf/

He discovered this bug and submitted it to Naraka

[dusk plover]

Oh and they finally answered about that one bug I kept getting (even got it in nirriti) where the enemies spawn off the map and you can’t progress

[fierce light]

Getting two counters off one Divine Thunder?

[amber terrace]

@mortal yew so scorching 12 is still OP after update?

I saw video scorching 12 dmg up to 1/2 HP Boss

[dusk plover]

Not that specifically but just being able to proc it more than once off of one counter

[mortal yew]

yes

[dusk plover]

All that’s being changed is fixing a bug with it that caused you to get multiple procs of it when you shouldn’t of

[fierce light]

Hits harder than Defuse Flaming Blade, Defuse Raging Flame and Ember combined.

[mortal yew]

12Scroching = 5Defuse Flaming Balde

and now we did got this

it will got more dmg

[amber terrace]

So we can pass enigma peak ez

[fierce light]

Hydroflare build got a buff while Skyfire build got nerfed. Weird.

[amber terrace]

Which buff?

[fierce light]

What Kakashi just posted lol

[spice canyon]

Blazing flame from green potential has lower HP scaling compared to previous season, which mean lower burn damage overall = slower skyfire proc

Meanwhile hydroflare damage #👾┃showdown message is slightly buffed, BUT they are placed 1 tier lower compared to previous season

in theory if you are max potential, you can take blazing flame and hydroflare buff

[fierce light]

Assuming the following formula for Hydroflare damage is true:
Hydroflare DMG = Burn Tick DMG * Burn Duration * Hydroflare DMG Bonus
which simplified is just
Hydroflare DMG = Burn DMG * Hydroflare DMG Bonus

Then being able to pick up Blazlng Flame alongside Water and Fire Raged would end up being an overall buff for Hydroflare builds while the reduction of Blazing Flame would be a nerf to Skyfire builds.

Skyfire Builds

• Last Season

• Burn DMG Bonus = 1.55 + 0.7 * Health%

• Current Season

• Burn DMG Bonus = 1.2 + 0.6 * Health%

• Change in Damage

• ∆Burn DMG Bonus = -0.3 - 0.1 * Health%
  Hydroflare Builds

• Last Season

• Hydroflare DMG Bonus = 1.55 + 0.7 * Health%

• Current Season

• Hydroflare DMG Bonus = (1.2 + 0.6 * Health%) * 1.3 = 1.56 + 0.78 * Health%

• Change in Damage

• 1.56 + 0.78 * Health% > 1.55 + 0.7 * Health%

But it all depends on if Hydroflare DMG Bonus does truly multiply with Burn DMG Bonus or not.

These new Doom Omens are cool

[wispy garnet]

My 1st attempt solo full run (Sense 950) I got 9,6k Potential EXP and 48 Jades with Potion ;D

[supple crown]

I didn't understand this one.
Does this mean only 3 anima ring allowed or type means the 4 ring buffs

[hearty rivet]

3 types imho

wonder if those without blessing count tho or the instant money rings.

[wispy garnet]

@fierce light How I needed this run much less DMG?! Bosses were different => they have different HPs? I also was much faster O.o

[river stratus]

no deplation weapon repair kit niceee, time to try yueshan cannon

[fierce light]

Poison is almost perfect for this stage lol

[round glacier]

12 scorching = 4 scorching +3 or 12 scorching +3

[fierce light]

These are Anima Ring Collections:

[round glacier]

Do you need 2 scorching on all 6 jades or do you need 1 scorching on 4 all to level 3?

Or like 3 jades with only scorching in all 4 spots lol

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Tru11 [EU] leveled up!

[dusk plover]

Literally 3 categories only. That includes currency, might, counter

[hollow herald]

Did they change something? Today, I had to repair the GS used by Yoto. I don't remember having to repair weapons in showdown before.

[hard glade]

There should be 4 Scorching at level 3 = 12

[round glacier]

Thats manageable lol

[hard glade]

I have 2 looking for 2 more ...

[dusk plover]

Yeah good luck getting all those scorchings on the right jades lol

[round glacier]

Stupid game gave me that instead of windfall prior seasons 🤨

Pairs best with thunder or poison?

[hard glade]

Last season I was getting so many scorching... I had broken my souljades and used it to get another rare

On different souljades

Had no idea it would be a cool rare ...

[round glacier]

True

Had on thunder counter, broke it down to get it again on thunder counter lmao

[fierce light]

[short meadow]

tell me which map is best this week

[fierce light]

So frustrating that drops like that can still happen. It's such a waste of 150%, I'd expect to see something like that at 75%.

[hard glade]

It's like end of fatigue drop & like who needs this much blue jades

Later on

Also converting these blue jades won't guarantee a golden jade

[fierce light]

Poison ftw

[hard glade]

Poison viper?

[hearty rivet]

Oh boo I totally misunderstood it. 9 doom stars need to be acquired in a single week for the challenge ded Rip pugs

[hard glade]

Maybe they want us to farm scream/ legend?

[fiery rock]

How’d you pop the chat feature on Xbox?

[fierce light]

They should've specified that tbh.

I'll test it later

[fierce light]

Wuchen

[fierce light]

It should be just hold the 2 squares button.

[fiery rock]

Thank you, will try

[hard glade]

With elixir

Trying solo now ..

[twin ledge]

This was my enigma game with gold key and elixer 5 golds, 8 purples and first time I’ve ever got this many blues but 42 blue jades

[hard glade]

Looks like Enigma is best for farming now...

But less crystal 🔮

[fierce light]

Yeah looks like similar as last season. Void for Crystals, Enigma for Souljades.

[hard glade]

Hope they increase the crystal count at Nirriti

[fierce light]

Feels like they're adjusting the rates based on what the top CN players have which is honestly annoying

[twin ledge]

Bro if they don’t remove impassable from this dum ass enigma ima delete the game 5 of the fcking games I’ve played today all been impassable the omen is annoying

Last week 80% fcking games was the same

[hard glade]

Oh gg

[hard glade]

Nightscream solo with elixir

[whole pebble]

isnt the update for showdown today with adjusted drops? the fatigue requirement for Nirriti is still at 30. wasnt this supposed to be 45?

[spice canyon]

probably next week update

nirrity drop quality still abyssmal tho

[hard glade]

Enigma 9 boss, gold key, elixir

[amber terrace]

@fierce light what's map good to get more high quality jades?nirriti or enigma?

[fierce light]

Feels like Enigma right now.

If you have Gold Keys

[whole pebble]

hmm.. seems like i will need to level up my Hydroflare Luck Build set again if it brings more better quality jades.

[hard glade]

Beautiful viper ning bro 😈

[whole pebble]

squidwartified

[hallow drum]

Do you guys have boss fight music?

[drifting lance]

🎉 | MrCarn leveled up!
ℹ | Level up messages can be disabled for the guild with owo level disabletext

[thorn narwhal]

would forging make it just a normal jade with current attributes and are new ults any different or just need reunlock

[subtle bramble]

New ults have been improved and those jades are obsolete now, the ones I reforged had the same sense after reforging, but I didn't check attributes

[wispy garnet]

What is your build on her?

[plucky fog]

meanwhile in morus nightscream

[fierce light]

I did get quite a few legendaries when I did the new mission too

[thorn narwhal]

alr so what options i have for leveling enigma isn't open the only way i see is replay all morus isle which is boring

[fierce light]

• Enigma Domain (fastest)
• Nirriti's Ruins - Normal
• Chapter Missions (slowest)

[thorn narwhal]

thx

[lost bronze]

666

[mortal yew]

6666

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xf5eXUtDJg

this is so fun

[fierce light]

I'm jealous

[whole pebble]

i got to thinking... maybe the red jade will only appear for Viper, Tarka, Temulch and Matari. useless stone can appear for all characters.

oh, and im still hunting for both. still no luck. lol

[hearty rivet]

I don't understand this. Soloing Nirriti normal and hard are super easy, then nightscream is like brick wall, even with almost maxed out relevant stats. I miss my defuse heals from last season yama :(

[plain garnet]

@fierce light Sorry to bother you again, but... Where it is good to use the double loot and experience bottle to gain more potential experience

[fierce light]

Okay I have some stats on the Silhoutte's from the potential for anyone curious:

[fierce light]

Enigma Domain and Nirriti's Ruins give the same amount of Potential XP

So you can do either one.

[plain garnet]

Oh I see, thanks!

[whole pebble]

oh wow, 1400% of attack

[fierce light]

Yeah it's pretty much equivalent to another 100% Divine Thunder DMG to your Thunder Counter.

Around 50% for Successive Ice Blast since it takes two procs.

[stray osprey]

where can i actually find this

i don't know what i did but i cleared one somehow

oh nvm

man it's timegated

[fierce light]

Didn't realize we got 2 Yama's Stages

[hard glade]

Looks like they might introduce poison boss someday, maybe next season 🧐?

[fierce light]

No idea what will be next tbh. I think this is Omnious's final forms.

[hidden creek]

metal, wood, water, fire, earth

yeah 5 forms all appeared

maybe next is all 5 combine

[hard glade]

https://tenor.com/view/zoro-asura-kaido-zoro-asura-zoro-zoro-one-piece-asura-zoro-asura-one-piece-kaido-gif-26349088

[twin ledge]

My last game of enigma and I’ll finally have max sense

[fierce light]

Reading the description of Culmination, it looks like Chaos Qi form is next.

[hidden creek]

oh

then it is 5 form combine indeed

[hard glade]

Intresting!!!

[dusk plover]

Did they decrease the rate on getting rares again @fierce light? I’ve recasted my incineration 240 times now and haven’t even had a moderation (let alone scorching or windfall) pop up once

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Os1k_Egyptian_ leveled up!

[dusk plover]

Okay just needed 20 more to get scorching lv 1 lol 😂😭

[crystal plume]

how does luck affect drop chance?

is there any calculation available

[whole pebble]

i have several runs using full Luck Build and quite honestly, i do not really see the difference versus using my Hydroflare Build. This is for last season. not sure if there was any change for this season.

i also posted my result/reward for those. but those were weeks ago.

i can try it again this season, but I am currently focused on pushing my Hydroflare Build jades first to 1030 before i push the level of my Luck Jades Build.

[crystal plume]

yeah because I have 375 luck with my normal build and now I tried my best luck build with 2350 luck and i did not really see a difference

I was just wondering

[whole pebble]

this is my luck build. im at 4800. all jades have +500 luck.

[amber terrace]

are u using scorching 12?

[whole pebble]

some fatigue technique I do to fully utilize the 150% reward bonus using potion as well.

[mortal yew]

yes

[amber terrace]

gimme build potential for that

[amber terrace]

damm i just lvl 33

[mortal yew]

its fine if u last week Fatigue is 2400/2400 this week when u 2400/2400 u will lvl40

im 1960/2400 now

[amber terrace]

ok

@mortal yew did u test scorching 12 after update?

i mean reset fix today

[mortal yew]

yes dmg is still good

just fix bug

[night tiger]

I believe there's a jade that does that

[amber terrace]

still get 1/2 HP on 1-3 boss enigma?

[night tiger]

Like increases the damage of defuse but costs weapon durability or smth

[amber terrace]

counter parry will cost durability, defuse will repair and increase dmg

if u saying defuse-aegis break

[mortal yew]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgnT-N54qj8

[mortal yew]

yes

[amber terrace]

should i use defuse-raging flame? i dont have scorching on defuse-flaming blade

[night tiger]

Yep. That one

[mortal yew]

u can take it first when u got scroching then change it

[amber terrace]

i have scorching on defuse-rage flaming

@mortal yew can u show your stats on scorching jades?

[amber terrace]

tks

[fierce light]

I wouldn't know, rares hate me.

[limpid pecan]

i have a theory but not sure

if u hit pity timer for recast picking stat

and put it on jade

u will have high chance to get it quick

i had some weird stuff happen last season

think i dumped like 200 crystals or something with 0 rares

on one jade

then another jade got it in a few tries

the only difference was the another jade i used the pity stat picker

[short meadow]

which map is best for farming sense now?

Enigma or Nrittis ruin?

[hidden creek]

enigma

[amber terrace]

Which map is best to farm crystal

[hidden creek]

nirriti

kinda the only map to farm crystal lol

[amber terrace]

normal?

[fierce light]

Normal is fastest, yeah.

[amber terrace]

Ok

[fierce light]

They seem to be against making difficult content rewarding, outside of the first clear.

[amber terrace]

I need more crystal to build poison

Need moderation but it keep gimme windfall

[limpid pecan]

i wish they added duo mode

to showdown

idk whats the problem

to make it

[tropic bramble]

^

Instead of 1.5x health just 1.25x

I know it would increase q time but who even actually ques anymore

[limpid pecan]

arent queues like omega dead since they added yama

[tropic bramble]

They were dead even before the only missions that got ques were speedrun and together we stand

[limpid pecan]

also i think they need to add something

that will make running all chapter missions usable for something

like idk

some kind of bounty system or something

or some kind of special queue which randomly selects stage to complete

[fierce light]

Yeah nothing to incentivise us to run different things atm. Won't even tell us what has better rates for what.

[tropic bramble]

Finally 1000 sense

[subtle bramble]

man why does nirriti refuse to give me divinity guard and useless rock

[eternal torrent]

i got it after a certian in-game lvl

[subtle bramble]

I have to keep playing heroes that have red jades in hopes for inferno hero, I just want to go back to Wuchen