#Hades - Nebula255 #15

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feral pumice
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It's gonna be roughly +-0.1mm, making a last part for the bottom belt, then I can move onto the top belts

feral pumice
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Paint did some running, not amazing but it works

feral pumice
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I'll try to wet sand some of the high spots down that appeared due to dripping / runny paint, then scuff up a bit more and see if i can fix it up, will try it on a small test piece first instead of the actual wing to see if its feasible

buoyant wraith
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lmk when you finish 4040 cad btw im probably gonna go w it too

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might fill the extrusions

feral pumice
buoyant wraith
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5032?

feral pumice
buoyant wraith
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Interesting

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I bet i could make a non rigid mount to dampen vibrations though

feral pumice
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Gonna strip one cantilever wing of paint, and paint it properly later today, might attach beacon, belts and endstops aswell

feral pumice
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Gonna start twisting up cables for my umbilical tomorrow night

buoyant wraith
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i need to get rid of my can board for an umbilical on my stinger bro

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can is just a pian

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pain

feral pumice
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Stepper motor frame connector, short cable from the stepper to this, then a longer twisted cable to the MCU

feral pumice
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I got paint to finish things finally, painted a cantilever wing, gonna paint the main wing now and then the backplate, should all be done tomorrow ish, then ill let it try another day, get that installed, and finally carry on with this build.

feral pumice
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Pretty deep in wiring, so far I've changed the locations of my 24v and 5v wago's, makes a lot more sense now that I got rid of the ESP i had to have the 24v closer and more accessible, while the 5v for the pi further away.

feral pumice
feral pumice
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Just need to paint the backpanel now which I’ll get started on later

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These both came out surprisingly good compared to my expectations, definitely a much better way to hold the wing

woeful talon
feral pumice
woeful talon
feral pumice
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Spray can, make sure to have it in some warm water or something to keep it to temp if you're doing it outside

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all my cans were super fiddly with the pressure, so i had to buy a few more since i needed to re-paint a few of them

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Isopropyl alcohol is pretty good at scrubbing the paint off

feral pumice
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Thought I was smart using painters tape to mark off some already painted edges, ended up peeling off some paint, so I gotta re paint the middle wing now, pretty annoyed but should’ve seen it coming I guess

viral grove
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Keeping the paint warm helps a lot in a spray can. Let’s the viscosity thin out a bit and not spit blobs out, I use two part catalyst paint for cabinet touch ups and put the aerosol can and paint in a bucket warmer to get warm

feral pumice
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yea mine was still kinda odd even after keeping it warm, but now i get to re-do it anyway because painters tape is also great for paint removal

viral grove
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I usually pull tape while paint is either wet or 100% cured

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Other wise it will do that

feral pumice
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yea it had been sitting for about 2 days so figured it'd be cured

viral grove
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But none the less still at the mercy of a paint can

feral pumice
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but hey now i just get to scrub it clean, and if a tiny piece comes off the bottom, i get to repaint that aswell, no big deal (incredibly annoyed, it is a big deal)

viral grove
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Also how you had it taped if you taped and painted to the tape at a hard edge without letting the paint barely ride over the edge

feral pumice
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will check if theres any scratches on the bottom, if there is, im dunking the whole thing in iso, peeling off the paint, and re-doing it

feral pumice
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Wings came out beautifully, painted half of the top and back panel now and will finish it tomorrow, I’m also driving to Sweden to pick up some PIR

feral pumice
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Got PIR for the build, gonna have this in the shed until I’m happy with the state of the gantry and cantilever

feral pumice
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Finished painting the cantilever parts.

I will let them dry and cure until tomorrow night, then try to get it installed again.

feral pumice
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While I wait for things to dry, I'll prepare my chamber heater, attaching the thermistors to it, and get more parts hooked onto the printer like my front tensioner plates, door hardware, etc. so i just need to belt it.

feral pumice
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Got 48v and the pi hooked up, gonna do 24v, then handle the chamber heaters thermistors

tender haven
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I read that as "got 48v to the pi hooked up" 😂

feral pumice
feral pumice
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Almost done re-wiring the SSR now, just need to crimp the molex, so today I've:

Painted cantilever parts for the final time

Picked up PIR in Sweden

Wired up 5v for the Pi, 24v for the MCU, and 48v for the motors, and 50% wired up the SSR

Remaining:
Install cantilever parts
Finish wiring SSR
Wire thermistors
Wire heater
Wire Z stepper
Wire Y Stepper
Wire XY Endstops
Wire Toolhead
Install and wire CPAP
Install panels + insulation

feral pumice
feral pumice
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PT1000

feral pumice
feral pumice
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Ballscrew is on

feral pumice
feral pumice
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in true nick fashion i've ordered more stuff

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nsk 635ZZ bearings for double shear

planning on excit3d max motors courtesy of @stiff jungle and others,

24 misumi brackets to keep this thing square,

looking at replacing the 7040 with a 9290 and probably also some new drivers

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forgot to mute that ping, oops

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panzar is handling the bearings and brackets, comes out to about 180usd for 2 bearings and 24 brackets

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Also got a few toolheads I'll swap between to try, this will only commence once the printer has done atleast one benchy 😂

feral pumice
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Finally got my shit together and spent 3 minutes crimping the last Y stepper cable that gets mounted to the frame, my z stepper arrives tomorrow* thought it was today, so will hopefully have the bed installed, and then i can start wiring shit up

feral pumice
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Got my stepper and got it installed, time to install and wire the bed, again

feral pumice
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Bed is fully wired now, thermistors are crimped, etc. just need to change pins in config

feral pumice
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Gonna work more on making cables look nice tomorrow

feral pumice
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Decided to try adding a thermistor to a stepper, kinda like the classifieds but more janky, i plan to run them hard so figured it could be beneficial.

opened up the 2504 s8 55 i had lying around, and added a glass bead thermistor in there then hooked it up to my v0 and energized the stepper (temp shown initially is the temp with no power or anything to the stepper)

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Since its on my v0 on 2209's, I'm only giving it about 0.8a of run current

feral pumice
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Got my belts installed and tensioned now, gonna wire up the X and Y endstops and see if i can get it moving

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Actually that also requires me crimping the steppers.. we'll see if i dare turn it on..

feral pumice
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To try to contain the scope of the project until it's running, I won't finish installing the thermistors until I have the toolhead installed and it's pushed plastic.. at this rate it'll never be finished, but these should be easy enough to add anyway later on.

I guess I gotta save some of the fun for later anyway

feral pumice
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First power on test today, gonna check over all electronics to make sure there's no metal shavings.. forgot to cover them when i was working on stuff and stripping wires

feral pumice
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WE GOT POWER

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AND NOTHING BLEW UP

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Y stepper moves fine, X has a cable pinned wrong

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now i just need to connect the Y endstop, and i might run a speed_test for fun, if i can cheat my z to think its homed

tender haven
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Force set kinematic position

feral pumice
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Thanks

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huge

tender haven
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I think you hotend might be to hot

feral pumice
woeful talon
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nuclear fusion heated hotend?

feral pumice
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Putting a thermistor in the actual stepper used now

feral pumice
feral pumice
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Fixing up the fiberglass sleeve on my hotend and hopefully getting that installed now, might see if I wanna wire it aswell

feral pumice
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Getting started on the toolhead now.. the beacon cable is TIGHT, but does have some* movement

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No fatigue on the connector, leaving it a bit of slack

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need to see how I'm gonna route the goliath wires, but that'll likely all be tomorrow, my back needs a break

light pier
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damn what toolhead is that?

feral pumice
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Archetype breakneck, just without the duct

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I have a few different ones I'm gonna be trying

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Breakneck, Sphinx by @alpine lake, and UAP

woeful talon
feral pumice
woeful talon
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Apparently thats basically as good as 2 cpaps lol

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I should get one too

feral pumice
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I'm going with it mainly because it has a much more pleasant sound

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more like a yell rather than a high pitch scream of the 7040

viral grove
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Lol my custom order motors reach 90c internal in like no time

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no idea if thats good or bad

feral pumice
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I haven't even had my 2504's hit that at 2a 48v

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they maxed out at 80c coil temp

viral grove
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im sending 3a 48v

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with normal move commands and its getting hot

feral pumice
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1.1 was letting me hit like 50c iirc?

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the 80c internal was after 50 iterations of speed test at 600@25k

viral grove
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these motors whine high pitch AF and give off a vibration in my hand

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idk how to test the motor while its not hooked up to the belts without homing

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i just fake hit the end stops with the motor plugged in to my x

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lol thought this was general chat

feral pumice
feral pumice
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and damn this baby shakes at 600@25k

feral pumice
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broke a strut on the hotend fan, ordered a new one, slightly annoying but that leaves more time for wiring i guess

feral pumice
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these huge goliath wires are definitely something

woeful talon
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had mine slightly hotter

feral pumice
woeful talon
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classified thermistor, so inside

feral pumice
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Getting real close to the absolute max

woeful talon
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if that was on the outside the motors would probably be cooked

feral pumice
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I’m assuming they did something similar to me, so coils are probably slightly hotter?

woeful talon
feral pumice
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Lmao

woeful talon
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i havent opened them to look where the thermistor is

feral pumice
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I’m glad I printed my archetype stuff in PPS, those Goliath heater wires are getting awfully close to stuff

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Looks like it’s got great cable management options, just not for Goliath

feral pumice
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Got a big ass crimp thing from the normal wire going into the nichrome wire

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I have to bend them so carefully to not just snap them

woeful talon
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just switch to tricorn or chube lol

feral pumice
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Tricorn is pretty likely, if it was chube I’d have to go for chube air which meh

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If I was to go chube I’d want conduction

woeful talon
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are there no nice metal toolheads you could go for?

feral pumice
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I’d like to keep cpap, el fuego is the only one that comes to mind but it’s not originally designed for the stock Voron belt path, so that’s not something I want to mess with and fuck up the COM

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It also has its own hotend iirc

woeful talon
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it does?

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nah el fuego is designed for chube

feral pumice
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Either way it’s not the stock Voron belt path and I don’t want to ruin the COM by swapping stuffKEKWSAD

buoyant wraith
viral grove
feral pumice
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Misumi order won’t ship until the 24th sadly since some parts are coming from Japan, currently trying to slowly make my way through umbilical wiring

feral pumice
tall bone
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What design do u use for the belt clamps? Currently in the process of designing some

feral pumice
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The red thingies on my X rail

tall bone
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Ok tysm

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How do u figure out how far forward they should be placed so the belt is parallel to the X beam?

feral pumice
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Got the extruder and main toolhead ducts installed now, gonna need to take it apart tomorrow(?) to change the zipties in the belt clips out for some kanthal wire, they don’t have full movement range so aren’t fully parallel to the X axis yet, once I’ve handled that I’m gonna see if I can somehow give the beacon cable a bit more space to breathe in, it’s incredible right at current and it’s pretty sketchy to me.

feral pumice
tall bone
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Ok, cool

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That front piece for the toolhead looks amazing

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Patterns so cool

feral pumice
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Yeah I love my Tyson plate, majority of the toolhead is printed in 3D4Makers PPS-CF

feral pumice
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So, fun update.

Went to go fix my belts with the kanthal wire to hopefully fix them not being fully parallel to the X beam, turns out that wasn't the issue.

Airtac carriages are 3mm longer (1.5mm each side) than most other rail carriages, and the archetype clips are supposed to sit snug against the end of the carriage.

I've gone absolutely ape mode and just removed 1.5mm from each side that touches, hoping that's enough, and I'm now printing them at 8/8/8/80% hoping that it'll make up for it 😂

tender haven
feral pumice
tender haven
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Rebuild #30 coming soon to a build log near you

feral pumice
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I should start a rebuild counter in here 😂

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I'm printing prototypes now, didn't take long to gorilla smash those belt clips into (hopefully) submission, if all goes well they'll work as is, i just have to replace the current clips which shouldn't take long, then i can re-belt it, and get the toolhead installed again

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I'm also figuring out mammoth muffler mounting

tender haven
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Just update the title every time you start to rebuild again 😂

feral pumice
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I think I'm at #9 now?

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Hades - Nebula255 #9

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there we go

tender haven
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I've had to update my build log titles

tender fossil
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Its been 0 days since Nick hasn’t rebuilt his printer

feral pumice
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But hey good news, I think I solved my mammoth muffler mounting situation now

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So I'm fairly sure of where I need to cut my precious panel

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Needed to modify a few parts slightly

buoyant wraith
gaunt skiff
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I vote for schneeberger rails

woeful talon
gaunt skiff
feral pumice
feral pumice
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1000mm/s speed test

feral pumice
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Doing the extruder, hotend and thermistor cables today, then the only thing missing is my hotend fan, and cpap mounting..

feral pumice
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Soooo…

Finishing up the wiring today, just need to terminate the ends of e cables with JST xh, then I’m only missing my hotend fan, in terms of toolhead stuff.

I also ended up ordering a ws9290-48v to replace my brand new ws7040, which should be here around the same time, current estimate is that I get my parts Tuesday and I’m ready to print on Thursday..

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*This doesn’t mean I’m even close to being done on Thursday, will just be printing some parts my v0 can’t handle, before then continuing

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Does that count as a rebuild? @tender haven KEKWSAD

tender haven
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how much rework is involved in this change?

feral pumice
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And evidently I can’t keep my wallet closed for even 24hrs

feral pumice
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Gonna attempt my beacon setup tomorrow, I’ll make sure to record and post it in #demolition_derby if my entire very brittle pps-cf toolhead decides to crack

feral pumice
feral pumice
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Pushed the bed up by around 5mm and it seems even further away now lol, almost sounds like the stepper stalls trying to go the last few mm

feral pumice
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IT WORKS

feral pumice
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Cold mesh, pretty happy with it

feral pumice
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Not sure what causes the belts to shift like that on the belt test, will have to watch some videos on this later

feral pumice
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Belts looked weird bc a motor cable was hitting them lol, needs tension though..

feral pumice
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Got all cables ran through my ducts, except for the hotend fan which I'm still missing, getting close to this stuff

feral pumice
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high temp CPAP

feral pumice
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Hotend thermistor does work atleast, might try to crank the heat to 50 without the hotend fan

tender haven
feral pumice
tender haven
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Also how do you not have the fan yet

feral pumice
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So I made it another order, got shipped today

feral pumice
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heater and thermistor confirmed working now, just the extruder cable i need to test, and then i'm ready once i get my fan.

trim terrace
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I can't wait to see this build in action, it's been so long in the works

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Really glad to see it take off

feral pumice
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Yeah haha same here, plan is to print on thursday if i get my fan

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Gonna try to set up beacon contact today

feral pumice
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We got FILAMENTTT

feral pumice
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Contact is now set up, need to work on a start macro soon..

feral pumice
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Print on Thursday does seem doable depending on how much motivation I’ve got, everything is wired up, except for the extruder, hotend fan (on the way) and cpap, both of which should be fairly fast

feral pumice
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High temp tube also seems to be on the way slowly

buoyant wraith
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dude charge your phone 😭

feral pumice
buoyant wraith
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lol

feral pumice
feral pumice
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Also got some 1mm piano wire on the way to stiffen up the umbilical, the current steel cord stuff is very floppy lol

feral pumice
feral pumice
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Hades - Nebula255 #10

feral pumice
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New milestone reached thanks to turtles definition of a rebuild

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Open frame graphs: 150aph, 5scv

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Structural panel graphs: (On both sides, no rear)
150aph, 5scv

feral pumice
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Structural panels (sides + rear) 2.5a:

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Using excite_freq, the only way I'm really getting a difference is pressing around on the toolhead, not sure what's really causing that peak at 125 but might dismount the toolhead just to rule that out..

feral pumice
feral pumice
feral pumice
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Made the cable for my hotend fan, which is the last for my toolhead.

Not too happy with the final wire lengths of the extruder and hotend fan, but swapping extruder anyway so whatever.

Still missing the 1N4148 diode for the delta fan, so I’m not wiring up signal for now, will get it wired soon and then try to heat, then calibrate MPC

feral pumice
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currently printing a small base for the cpap, so i can mount it, then double sided tape it to my table for now since i dont have my muffler assembled, and this thing tries to fly away at 25%

after that, i'll attempt PID tuning the bed and MPC tuning the hotend, if MPC gives me any issues I'll be switching to PID

feral pumice
tender fossil
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Sounds like a jet engine

feral pumice
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Running the dual loop pid calibration now, then I’ll go through a few more checks and I might try a print..

feral pumice
viral grove
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Your motors are longer for more I can hear them saying please 🤣🤣

feral pumice
feral pumice
feral pumice
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Hades - Nebula255 #11

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Sample spread issue on beacon with the merc, I suspect my Z might be binding slightly causing inconsistent readings, time for another rebuild!

feral pumice
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Seeing some inconsistent beacon results even after the rebuild, I slightly suspect one rail binding a bit, I’m gonna replace both rails to be on the safe side (and to have them match), currently getting offers for some high quality ones..

feral pumice
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been chasing issues both with the goliath and beacon;

had a heatbreak clog that took a while to figure out and clean out, i've since added thermal paste in the heatbreak

now I wonder how that clog happened in the first place, i have a delta 5v 2510 on both my v0 and my merc, my v0's tach reading is 14k, rock solid +-200rpm, while the merc goes from 11.7k down to 7.6k, unsure if its a faulty tachometer or if that fan really is all over the place, haven't noticed anything horrible out of place audibly.

feral pumice
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After those issues, i started a print, it was going great, then about 95% through the print, i got a beacon disconnect.. which gave me an error ofcourse, which turned off my hotend fan, while the hotend was sitting at 270c mid print..

tender haven
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Only time I've had beacon disconnect was from poor cable management, strain on the connector

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You can make it non critical, doesn't fix the issue but we'll keep it from killing a print

feral pumice
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went to wiggle the cable to see if that'd put it back to life and it just fell off lol

tender haven
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Opps

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One never had that part fail on me... I did rip the plastic housing off of mine though 😂

feral pumice
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2 heatbreak clogs, clogged nozzle, inconsistent beacon, and now a broken beacon cable

tender haven
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I can't recall if I ordered connectors for the cable side when I ordered them to change my beacon to normal profile

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I probably should order some of i didn't before

feral pumice
tender haven
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Order both sides

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Just in case

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The parts are cheap

feral pumice
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I already have the other side from when i swapped from LP to normal profile

tender haven
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Ahh ok

feral pumice
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gonna make my own cable so it know its the right length

tender haven
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Yeah I did order those when I converted mine

feral pumice
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time to find a decent quality usb cable i can cut up 😂

tender haven
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I planned ahead 😂

feral pumice
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yeah cant relate

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im so annoyed by this, finally got the goliath to play nicely

tender haven
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You learn these lessons with age

feral pumice
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at this point im about to hot glue it temporarily then swap out both connectors when i get the parts

feral pumice
tender haven
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Picture of connector?

feral pumice
tender haven
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Yes

feral pumice
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let me finish this order then ill get it

feral pumice
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Trying to find the latch

tender haven
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I guess you could just say f it and ca glue it until you get the parts 😂

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You have spare housings

feral pumice
feral pumice
tender haven
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That won't hold

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Will maybe it will

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But hot enclosure

feral pumice
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It’s only 2 days

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And I’m not enclosed

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Ah fuck it the CA glue is closer anyway

tender haven
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😂

feral pumice
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This is a certified turtle approved fix

feral pumice
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glued it, will try a print tomorrow

feral pumice
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^ should probably check that I didn’t clog or anything first, sigh

feral pumice
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Today I’ve gotten:

my 2 new buildplates
3dlac
New extruder motor for when I swap toolhead

Graviflex magnetic sheet
Black coated steel DIN rails

I’m missing:

high temp CPAP tube
New 1000w bed heater

feral pumice
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My spacers for the ballscrew vary from 3.7-3.02mm, gonna grab some sandpaper later and try to lap them flat on both sides.

feral pumice
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Got it down to about 0.2mm variance across both spacers with a file, lapping them flat later with sandpaper

feral pumice
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Hades - Nebula255 #13

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Rebuilt toolhead and cantilever, adding to the rebuild counter

woeful talon
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how many rebuilds till done?

feral pumice
tender haven
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Wasn't it still 11 this morning? What happened to 12? 😂

feral pumice
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I checked with calipers, cantilever extrusions are within 0.2mm of the other reference point I set, the rails are parallel to the extrusions, and the BK/BF spacers are 12.5mm away on each side from the inner rail face

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So that should all be fine

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Installing rear skirt, then the bottom drag chain mount, then the cantilever

tender haven
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Wonder what the count will reach by the end of the year

feral pumice
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25+

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Depends when I run out of money

tender haven
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Eventually the rebuilds slow down to once or twice a year 😂

woeful talon
tender haven
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Well for most people they slow down to that rate

feral pumice
woeful talon
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oh

tender haven
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Hence to much free time 😂

feral pumice
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I do still make more than I spend though

woeful talon
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that explains how you have time for so many rebuilds

feral pumice
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I still do some voice acting / voiceovers on the side + a few things, which keep some money coming in

woeful talon
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nice
are you looking for a new job, or do you want to keep rebuilding your printer all day? xD

feral pumice
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Not looking for one currently

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Been coasting off what I made + make

woeful talon
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how is the job market for your profession?

feral pumice
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Looking pretty good, cybersecurity and network infrastructure

woeful talon
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yeah ok, atleast the physical side of networking infrastructure wont be easily replaced with ai

feral pumice
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And security historically hasn’t gone very well either lol

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But yea, rebuild almost done again

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Not putting back panel on just yet

feral pumice
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Bed is mounted, small break then ill plug everything in, and turn it on, then heat bed to 100c to hot tighten and level it, and that'll also test the beacon

feral pumice
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good news is that the beacon works, bad news is that the hotend thermistor reads 60c when it should be reading 24-26 lol

feral pumice
tender haven
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I forgot to no-go zone the fire pit lol

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It's empty, mowed through it just fine

feral pumice
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Quick update:

Thermistor still broken, im just running with it for now.

Trying PET-CF with 3dlac on my cryogrip plate at 60c bed at "340c" hotend (could be anywhere from 200 to 400 idfk with this thermistor)

Doing initial calibrations of the filament now out of the dryer, then gonna start printing the things for my muffler, and spare parts for my current toolhead because i really don't wanna mess with that later.

feral pumice
feral pumice
feral pumice
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This is with the printer actually assembled, the previous graphs posted at some point were without cpap hose, without the full toolhead, and the umbilical.

Tested at 150ApH up to 200HZ with the max accel in shaper_calibrate.py removed

This is also after adding basic chopper parameters to my drivers, going off of trinamics tmc5160_caluclations sheet, will be testing them further tomorrow to see if i can find something they like more.

feral pumice
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Swapped the goliath to a temporary NTC100k 3950, 3do just restocked the goliath PT1000's so ordered a few, and i still have a "higher" quality one on the way, should be here end of may..

I need to calibrate shrinkage on my PET, and retraction, after that I can start printing parts for my CPAP muffler, and ultimately once i've test fitted it, cut out my backpanel to fit the CPAP and filament inlet.

feral pumice
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Also reached out to Panza to hear if he could ship the rest of my order separately from the max motors lol

feral pumice
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more more more updates! always fun lol

Today I swapped to one of the temporary PT1000's that just arrived thanks to 3do,

Panza shipped everything but the max motors, since they aren't in stock just yet. And I suggested that the wire type be switched from PVC to PTFE/FEP in the max motors in future batches.

I ran chopper tuning for a few hours and ended up with some results that sound pretty decent, and don't create a lot of heat.

I also found a max flowrate test for my extruder, uses TMC Stallguard to automatically detect it which is cool, will be testing that tomorrow, and also printing some parts in PET-CF for the muffler after I get the shrinkage dialed in

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Excited for more printing

feral pumice
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Ready for a print, but in my infinite wisdom i accidentally got rid of my filament preset lol.. time to re-do flow, pa and retraction and then i can figure out shrinkage

buoyant wraith
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that umbilical/cpap/filament tube looks like itd mess with your is

feral pumice
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The umbilical is fine for now, the cpap and filament tube I'd agree with, can't do much about it until i cut out my backpanel, and before I do that I need to print my ws9290 muffler

buoyant wraith
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ah gotcha

feral pumice
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It's a temporary solution, hoping to print more parts tomorrow but we'll see how the filament feels

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Gotta figure out shrinkage, new em, new pa, and new retraction for the PET-CF, and get an annealing process down without any warping

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Hopefully the panza package is here either tomorrow, or saturday so I can get some corner brackets installed

feral pumice
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After drying it some more, its behaving way better with the retraction, re-running EM now, then I'll print the Calilantern by Vez3D to get XY skew, and XYZ shrinkage for when i anneal the part... its gonna be a lot of salt

feral pumice
feral pumice
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fun stuff happening, currently annealing PET-CF, got my misumi corner brackets and hardware for max motors, and im on a testing list for some TMC5262's, so i got an octopus pro v1.1 on the way aswell

random dune
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nice

feral pumice
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next up is to wait for the annealing to finish so i can dial in my shrinkage % for the PET-CF,

Then I gotta wait for the correct mounting hardware for those corner brackets.. oops

Install some PIR on the back shown in that image

Print parts for CPAP mounting and cut a hole in the backpanel for it

feral pumice
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Reached out to hear about my ThermEx board, with the new octo i ordered, I can install that instead and get a whole bunch of thermistors installed aswell.. might be a blessing in disguise

stable jay
feral pumice
stable jay
feral pumice
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Do you have a v1 or v2 fmg set

stable jay
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There's a v2?

feral pumice
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Yea, changed double shear bearing spec

random dune
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i habe v2 set

feral pumice
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I thought they both went to the back, let me check files lol

stable jay
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My memory isn't great, but I drilled out standoffs for the rear bolt hole not long ago so I know there's some room behind mine

random dune
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i did the v2 4th bolt mod

feral pumice
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yea same

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My bottom stepper plate is also 1 piece instead of 2x3mm

stable jay
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Now I'm wondering if I bolted mine to the wrong extrusion

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It's been like a year

woeful talon
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Im pretty sure theres about 5mm behind my v1 stepper towers

feral pumice
stable jay
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I think mine are bolted to a y extrusion and the hydra extrusion on both

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The one that goes across the top

feral pumice
stable jay
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Weird

woeful talon
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Does cantilever move the x beam further back?

feral pumice
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No it stays the same

stable jay
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Whatever, I'm telling myself the motion system is fine on mine now

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Although reading through your posts is making me want to measure and shim everything

feral pumice
random dune
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thats how there bolted on mine

feral pumice
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maybe it looks different to yall since i dont have the rear hydra extrusion, and i have an extra extrusion on the rear to brace the steel plate

random dune
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ill take a better picture for u tonight @feral pumice

tender haven
feral pumice
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Few brackets are installed now with the proper screws

feral pumice
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Installed brackets fully now and DAMN that took a while, won’t get to run the printer tonight so I’ll see what else I can do with it, might cut a test sheet of PIR for the back.

feral pumice
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Gonna add 2 more for the fun of it, if I can find some more m5 t nuts lol, think I had just enough

feral pumice
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I’m now out of M5 t nuts, but I can put my panels back on

feral pumice
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First IS run with new brackets on, will we-do at 200ApH in a second to test it up to 40k accel

woeful talon
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Sunlord 🔥

feral pumice
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😂

trim terrace
feral pumice
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Yup

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Panels and rear insulation, with 22x Misumi HBKUSB5 corner brackets installed

trim terrace
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Even though I'm going to buy new panels anyway, I still want the corner brackets lol

feral pumice
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I wonder if its my CPAP and reverse bowden thats capping my Y

severe bay
feral pumice
buoyant wraith
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Are you planning on going with sphinx toolhead?

feral pumice
buoyant wraith
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Oh lmao

feral pumice
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Still waiting on some 5262’s, might be a while before they get here though

buoyant wraith
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I was just about to ask if there was a voron version

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Btw

feral pumice
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There is for older versions, but the new one is still in testing

buoyant wraith
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I got something in the other day, the 4a motors

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The sovol with long shaft

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Diodeking is gonna test them for me because I don’t have a printer rn but if they work well you could probably get them pretty easily for your printer

feral pumice
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Nicee, got a 36v psu for them?

feral pumice
buoyant wraith
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They were only 5.50 each

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He has a 48v I think

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From excite?

feral pumice
buoyant wraith
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Gotcha

feral pumice
buoyant wraith
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I just got them from the supplier lol

feral pumice
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If they’re similar to the max motors

buoyant wraith
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Dk and I just paid for expedited shipping

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Oh interesting

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I’m sure he’ll find out

buoyant wraith
feral pumice
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They’ll still run, but it’s the same deal as with 2804’s

buoyant wraith
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Like the exact same motor

feral pumice
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Did you also get the wires changed to FEP/PTFE?

buoyant wraith
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I wonder if Vexs drivers will help with that at all

buoyant wraith
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It’s literally the exact same product

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From the supplier

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Just no excite logo

feral pumice
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So you’re still on PVC

buoyant wraith
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Then it’s whatever the max motors have lol

feral pumice
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Sub optimal, I asked bgoat if they could ask their supplier to add fep or ptfe next batch

feral pumice
buoyant wraith
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Uh yeah I think so

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Just his design of a 5160

feral pumice
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36v max to avoid excess chopping heat, probably 24-28v for less vfa

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Same case for every low inductance motor

buoyant wraith
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Interesting

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I hope dk knows that lol

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I’ll tell him

feral pumice
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Real world is gonna be dictated more by inductance than the resistance which trinamic goes by, so this is all just by their data sheet, not real world, it’s there to give a baseline for chopping parameters etc

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For proper testing id need an oscilloscope, and mine won’t be here for a while

buoyant wraith
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I gotta learn more about this stuff 😭

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You’re talking magic

feral pumice
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Trinamic/Analog Devices QSH4218-47-28-040

Thats what the 2804’s a clone of, I think they have some resources for tuning them

buoyant wraith
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Oh gotcha

feral pumice
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Should be a similar-ish-but-maybe-not kinda thing for the max since they’re both low inductance

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Bought too many brackets lol

buoyant wraith
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It honestly didn’t occur to me that Ldos were clones too

feral pumice
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But it did push my X to 25k, and hoping sphinx will fix my Y

buoyant wraith
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Oh did those help?

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Oh

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I type too slow

feral pumice
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Yeah they square up the frame for you

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That’s the main benefit

buoyant wraith
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Blind joints plus those or just those

feral pumice
feral pumice
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I think it’s vex? Who runs an entire frame on brackets, no blind joints

buoyant wraith
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I think so yeah

feral pumice
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They’re machined perpendicular

buoyant wraith
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I saw him and dderg talking about it

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Sphinx gonna be in pps?

feral pumice
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Nah, initial testing in ASA if it doesn’t warp, then in PET-CF

buoyant wraith
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Do you have a heated chamber in the merc?

feral pumice
buoyant wraith
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Will you cut into the panel for mammoth?

feral pumice
buoyant wraith
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Cool

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You test it yet?

feral pumice
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Modified mammoth to fit the ws9290b though

feral pumice
buoyant wraith
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Where’d you source that 9290?

feral pumice
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Panzar had one lying around, this is the 48v version

buoyant wraith
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Vs 24v?

feral pumice
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Yup

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There’s also 110/220 lol

buoyant wraith
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Damn

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Had to sell my merc but someday we’ll be back

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I’ll probably go voron tho ngl

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Just cause I want monolith

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Feels traitorous icl

feral pumice
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Yeah fair, think slimohan is adding sheet metal mono to a nebula frame

feral pumice
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I find mono cool and I’m a member in there because it’s a sick project, and they have some nice findings, but I doubt I’d build one, unless it’s a m0

buoyant wraith
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Yeah, I don’t think I would’ve either but since I’m essentially restarting i think I’ll go that path

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I’ll probably be a lot more intentional with what I do though lol

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Instead of just seeing something cool and throwing it on only to get rid of it in the next month

feral pumice
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That’s more or less my life philosophy

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‘Ooh shiny’

buoyant wraith
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Ah it’s fun to see others do it though lmao

feral pumice
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I’m excited to try the 5262 drivers

buoyant wraith
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Plus yours essentially panned out how you planned it

buoyant wraith
feral pumice
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Should be 4.25a rms on them

feral pumice
buoyant wraith
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Who sells them lol

feral pumice
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I just asked to try some, they got released by trinamic like March 16th so they’re pretty new

feral pumice
buoyant wraith
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Oh

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I was gonna say that I hadn’t heard of them until now lol

feral pumice
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Yea they released like 2 months ago, saw them and just dmd him asking to test for him lol

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Bought an Octo pro to try them, when they get here

buoyant wraith
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Wow

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That’s sick that they’re letting you test them

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Octo pro is so goated

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I have a manta in my lh stinger

feral pumice
buoyant wraith
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It was incredibly annoying

feral pumice
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Basically bought the same board twice just to try new drivers

buoyant wraith
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lol

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Sounds about right

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Hopefully they’re good though

feral pumice
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Yeah, I also need some voltage to pwm converter so I can get finer control of my cpap

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Thing starts at 13%

buoyant wraith
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Dude I gotta go to bed it’s 4am

feral pumice
buoyant wraith
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Your build is sick bro lmk when you start running sphinx

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I kinda didn’t like the looks but it’s growing on me

feral pumice
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Will do, gonna hopefully have it tested and tensioned later today

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Depending on how the ASA wants to act

buoyant wraith
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Sweet

woeful talon
feral pumice
feral pumice
tender fossil
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Beacon like

feral pumice
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beacon on the way to the waterfall

tender haven
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Why don't you run the color mesh, the gray scale is so hard to see what it's doing 😂

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On Mobile at least

feral pumice
tender haven
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Yes

feral pumice
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i'm glad, every print i'm just slowly removing 1mm from the max Y until the waterfall stops 😂

tender haven
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You know you can run mesh from the mesh page, right?

feral pumice
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Yeah but that takes time and i wanna print

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its easier to just print since it doesnt affect the prints anyway

feral pumice
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So.. print fail because the bed couldnt get back to temp, unsure if my CPAP cooled my bed too much

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Yup... does seem like thats the issue

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Might be because of the rear thermistor in the bed, maybe some heatshrink over it?

random dune
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or re pid tune bed with cpap on

feral pumice
random dune
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ok

feral pumice
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So.. even with a layer of kapton tape and 2 layers of heatshrink over it, it seems that it just can't handle 20% CPAP.

At 15% it can just barely keep up. I hope that the new JLC heater either handles it better, or I'll have to switch back to normal PID rather than Dual Loop.

feral pumice
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Love this thing.

Sending a large PET-CF print tomorrow (10hrs ish), so I can test fit the CPAP muffler.

If that runs nicely I’ll start marking out where id have to cut my backpanel.

random dune
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nice

feral pumice
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With the 0.016 beacon offset to account for hotend thermal expansion, first layers are perfect, everytime.

Prints are fast, reliable, and fun to watch zoom by, can’t wait to run a different toolhead and start pushing speeds more

trim terrace
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I'm so happy to see this printing, man

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Your prints look amazing too

random dune
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im hopping after my living rooms done ill get my printer finished

feral pumice
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JLC’s thermistors for their heat pads only go up to 125c, ( @celest temple this might interest u)

That’s too low for me as I run dual loop PID, so I’ll likely get a higher rated glassbead NTC100K and RTV that to the back of the silicone pad, temp difference shouldn’t be too much compared to their own thermistors, but I should be able to hit the 140c goal. Somehow missed the 125c limit initially, should’ve bought one without a thermistor.

celest temple
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damn

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i dont see myself going above 110 but 125 seems like a low margin

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I might include a hole in the middle for a thermistor in the dxf then

feral pumice
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Fx. 130c pad results in about 110c bed in my case

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I guess I’ll do some testing to see the difference between the thermistor in the pad, vs the thermistor I plan to add to the pad, so I can set custom datapoints and offset the thermistor I plan to add

celest temple
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i'm also wary of a cold spot for the hole that'd have to be cut in the heating pad for that

feral pumice
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Otherwise the pad will just keep heating itself up until the bed finally catches up, my pad quickly rose to like 170c lol

feral pumice
celest temple
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where are you putting the embedded one? on the rear part?

feral pumice
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Embedded in bed or heat pad

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I already have an embedded one in the bed, drilled a hole in the rear

celest temple
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embedded in bed, i assume heatpad just gets it from the bottom?

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or do you put it inbetween the bed and the heat pad

feral pumice
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Yeah ill just RTV a thermistor to the heat pad

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On the bottom of the silicone

feral pumice
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Should have dried my filament, walls look like shit and theres some stringing, but it'll do for now

feral pumice
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Old vs new muffler setup

Drying the filament now for a few hours, will be printing Sphinx and other parts tomorrow, then test fit the CPAP muffler (assemble it without mounting) to see if i screwed something up

feral pumice
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Had to modify a few parts (mainly to do with endstop location) Printing the test piece now, then will get the rear duct done, and hopefully also the main body today.

I'm printing everything out of PET-CF, at 320c hotend, 60c bed, open chamber,

Will be annealing it at a slow ramp up to 120c for 10hrs, and every part is printed with 6 perimeters, 6 top/bottom, and 60% infill

feral pumice
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The main body itself needs some work for the belt clips, but I’m happy waiting

feral pumice
woeful talon
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clean

feral pumice
viral grove
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75% sounds about like my 7040 full blast

feral pumice
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I imagine that when its attached to the chamber and enclosed, both the inlet and outlet will be pointed at the chamber and that'll take some of the noise

feral pumice
viral grove
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Oh yeah

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7040 is like whine

feral pumice
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i can get a measuring tape and a decibel measuring app on my phone 😂 , noise normalized 1 meter away

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because that was pretty close to it, and right infront of the inlet

viral grove
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7040 has almost a whistle to it at 100%

feral pumice
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Yeah i remember, its horrible

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This just sounds like a high powered vacuum

feral pumice
feral pumice
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Ignore this rtv application lol, don’t want too much strain on the wires

feral pumice
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Kapton to temporarily hold the wires down, and a lot of kapton to fasten the thermistor itself, if that ends up somehow peeling, I’ll rip it out and place it in a bead of kapton, would just have a slower thermal response in that case.

feral pumice
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Sphinx parts minus main body, will likely attach the new magnet for the bed today, then get the new heater installed tomorrow

celest temple
feral pumice
feral pumice
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After hours of scrubbing with acetone, new Graviflex magnet is attached, and I’m currently pressing down the new JLCFH heater

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Enjoy the very hastily made press to attach the heater lol

tender fossil
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Lemme get one of those white monsters please

feral pumice
tender fossil
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My man!

feral pumice
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Time to get this bad boy wired up and try it

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Just gonna heat it up and see which temps I can hold for today, no printing

feral pumice
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Very impressed, I was skeptical of the PT1000 I kapton taped to the surface, thought it would’ve lacked behind, but it seems to update even better than the embedded NTC100K.

I’ll now swap them, so I can try the plate thermistor and the new PT1000 surface mount thermistor, and run some dual loop PID

feral pumice
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Previously I couldn't even go above 108c with a 130c pad, now I've hit 117c during a dual loop PID calibration 😂

feral pumice
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Finally got dual loop running lol, had a bunch of issues with re-calibrating it but had to change the previous PID values to something different.

feral pumice
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Mounted the gasket for my CPAP and printed a new passthrough, so I’m just waiting for a time to cut the panel and install it.

I’m looking at messing around with preflight slicer for a bit, then trying to source a new bottom panel, and top panel

feral pumice
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Hades - Nebula255 #15

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Plan is now to draw up some plans to cut out my rear panel soon, once I've confirmed the new inlet fitment, i'm hoping to get it done in this coming week

feral pumice
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Got my octopus pro 1.1 a few days ago, just missing the 5262 stepsticks.

I’ve also ordered the frame and controller board for my nightowl enclosure for the mmu, that’ll be for the v0 though

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Hoping to get started on drilling / cutting the panel once I’ve checked fitment a few times, would rather not fuck that up

feral pumice
random dune
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nice have same board i ordered 2209 driver tbis mkrning for mine goi gntonuse that one in in my stealth changer voron build

feral pumice
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Just waiting for the m10 pneumatic tube and to attach the cpap hose

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Then we’re fully enclosed.. wow

feral pumice
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WE ARE ENCLOSED, THE TOP PANEL NEEDS A HEAVY WIPEDOWN

random dune
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nice

feral pumice
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just need to add my chamber heater, and a fuck tonne of insulation for when i get the alu top and bottom panels

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then when i get my externals ill clean up the ebay wiring and finalize motor lengths (the wires you can see at the bottom lol)

feral pumice
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Sphinx is close to being installed, just need to anneal it

feral pumice
random dune
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nice

buoyant wraith
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That’s bigger than I thought it’d be

feral pumice
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Yeah the main body was like a 4hr print at 6/6/6/60

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huge thanks to riley for actually making a voron belt compatible version, gonna be fun to compare it to breakneck

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I like that the hotend fan is rear mounted, i get to show off the goliath heatshield

buoyant wraith
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com optomised voron beltpath is sick

random dune
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yea im waitting till trident r2 files come out to start printing them

random dune
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yes theres been a revission to the xyz on trident

buoyant wraith
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Any updates on sphinx? I’m living vicariously through you with this printer stuff rn lol

feral pumice
buoyant wraith
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Maannn

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Is it pet cf?

feral pumice
# buoyant wraith Is it pet cf?

Yup, takes so long to anneal😂 and since I don’t have my lab oven yet, it’s a very involved task since I have to reset the timer

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Total it’s probably around 14-15hrs

buoyant wraith
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Yeesh

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When’s the oven supposed to come in

feral pumice
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I’ll get it done in the weekend though messing around with PA smooth time a bit since my corners are a bit funky

buoyant wraith
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Double yeesh

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Hopefully it doesn’t warp this time lol

feral pumice
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I’ll do a slower ramp up and down, probably 60c for an hour, 80c for 2hrs, 100c for an hour, then up to 120 for 10-11hrs

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And I’ll make sure to pack the inner ducts with salt, etc etc