#E5Pro to M1.1/EVA3/Hydra/ERCF

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cyan gyro
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Run it in low speed

sharp valve
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Oh ok, yeah, I'll do that

cyan gyro
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There are printed drill guides out there as well

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4-5mm hole works well

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4mm can work if your drilling is perfect

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5mm gives more wiggle room

sharp valve
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Oh ok, yeah, I have a ton of 5mm screws, that'd be perfect

cyan gyro
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6mm will nick the sides of the slot, but still fine

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Misumi specs 7mm holes

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The hole is just wrench access

sharp valve
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Do I need a step drill bit?

cyan gyro
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No, just a through hole

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The stock frame uses through bolts

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Blind joints use button heads inside the slot

sharp valve
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Oh right, that makes sense, of course a step bit doesn't make sense for through holes, I didn't think much about that

sharp valve
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Drill ordered, looks like it'll let me replace my shitty electric screwdriver and dremel too

round oracle
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if you're adding blind joints do the whole frame, it's worth it

sharp valve
sharp valve
cyan gyro
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dremels are loud, they have their place. But I rarely use mine

round oracle
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definitely loud

sharp valve
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yeah, my main use for it has been sanding and cleaning up holes in prints, tried using it to cut acrylic and also a bit of aluminum, was super loud, and obviously didn't really do much on the latter

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worked surprisingly well for drilling holes in the acrylic though, as long as I didn't try to push it through

round oracle
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I somehow managed to cut some 3 or 4mm steel but went through quite a few cutting disks, angle grinder would have been better but I don't have one and for a single job wasn't worth it

cyan gyro
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hand files work really well, easy to control, and quiet

round oracle
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didn't think about that ๐Ÿ˜… but I'll keep it in mind

sharp valve
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I used it to sand down the dowel pins for mercury, went through all of the included sanding drums, but the separate set of drums I got seems to be much better, didn't even get through one to do the pins for the metal towers

round oracle
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even though noise isn't a problem for me

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now that I think about it, mine be good to do some cleanup on the metal stepper towers

cyan gyro
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a cordless drill, and some hand sand paper work much better to get the pins down to size

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using a dremel sounds terrible for that

sharp valve
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yeah, that would have been a lot easier, using a dremel for it was not fun

sharp valve
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realigned that part of the frame and tried seeing if reduced belt tension makes the issue go away, it does not

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so next, I figured I'd try to rule out any issues with the motion system alignment, but those seem fine too

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going to see if I can find the old belts to try putting those in

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oddly it only seems to increase at either x max or y max, but at x max and y max it's fine again

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oh actually I suppose that potentially makes sense since each stepper handles diagonal movement

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yeah, the diagonal path those form is for when only the other stepper moves, so the behavior makes sense

cyan gyro
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I have found that once the belts wear like that, they will never track straight

sharp valve
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yeah I just came across that digging around in the voron subreddit, looks like I have just enough 2MGT to replace that side

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if that fixes it, what happened is that when I had the plastic stepper tower snap, it had grinded down a part of the belt

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at the time I just cleaned the fuzz off and assumed it'd be fine

cyan gyro
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I had this on my first 5 plus build and busy ignored it until u got stiff to replacing parts

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And noticed it still tracked the same

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Replaced the belts and it ran great

sharp valve
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yeah looks like it might've been the problem, the undamaged belt stays in place

sharp valve
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well at this point I might as well just blind joint everything anyway, especially since I have the apartment to myself

round oracle
sharp valve
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Drill arrives tomorrow, will print out the appropriate guides tonight, planning out where I need to make holes

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So far, there are the two I'll need from the top on each y axis piece

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The rear hydra arm

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And maybe for the stepper towers

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Oh and maybe I can make the middle tnut on the metal stepper towers usable too by rotating the extrusion and joining it to the frame via a plate

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Does anything on the bottom part of the frame need it?

cyan gyro
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Need it? No. But I think it's worth doing the entire frame

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Then you can ditch all the stock brackets

sharp valve
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Ah what I mean is are there points that aren't already blind jointed in the bottom? I can't think of any, I guess I should just check the cad

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yeah looks like the bottom is already fully done?

cyan gyro
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ohh might be

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been awhile since I looked at the stock setup

sharp valve
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yeah, I think the only hole on the bottom I need to make would be for the rear hydra arm

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also finally clicked that I was misunderstanding what a blind joint is, when you say misumi specs 7mm holes, I guess you mean that the joint itself is still made using an m5 screw, but that the hole has an extra 1mm of tolerance relative to that

cyan gyro
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with a blind joint, the "blind" hole is just tool access to be able to tighten/loosen the screw

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vs how creality did through bolt holes with counterbores

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misumi drills extra wide holes

sharp valve
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yeah finally just watched a video of what it's supposed to look like

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makes complete sense now, yeah, it'd be best if I took apart the entire frame to do this

round oracle
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do the whole thing you might need to rotate some extrusions

sharp valve
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now I understand why you suggested rotating the rear extrusion and blind jointing it to be able to use the middle stepper tower hole

cyan gyro
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yeah the button heads would just slip through the counterbores, no lip left for them

sharp valve
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yeah

sharp valve
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Printed a couple of jigs, would disassemble the printer immediately but too tired

sharp valve
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Ugh, god I hate this dorm so much

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Was busy working so didn't get to pick up the package from the mailroom during normal hours, but that's normally fine because they use a locker system anyway

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Only this time the scanner is busted so I can't get into the room, and the office just tells me to wait till tomorrow -_-

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I swear they act like everyone has all the time in the world

round oracle
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wait you don't?

sharp valve
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Lol

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Over this past year, they've had me move 4 times unscheduled and acted like I was being unreasonable asking for some estimated date for when the scheduled moves were

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It's a graduate dorm too, so it's weird that they behave like as long as it's over summer, the resident has free time to deal with their crap

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I guess this latest thing is relatively mundane in comparison, those times they were basically expecting me to be immediately available to move while I was already having to spend most of my waking time preparing for conferences

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The latest set of shit is that I have to clean up after the former flatmates didn't clean up their junk in the common area, all because I happened to be the last one to move out

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Oh and on top of all this, the rent is stupidly high, $1.1k for a small room with no AC

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Well that's enough ranting, I'm going to go try again or find something else to do rather than laying in bed and seething

round oracle
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gotta love how everyone somehow seems to think students have infinite time for everything ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

sharp valve
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Yep

sharp valve
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was able to pick up the drill this morning, tried making some holes in a junk piece of extrusion

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works, but feels like I'm doing something wrong since it took a lot more effort than it looks like in videos

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tested with some drilling+tapping bits and looks like they should work fine for say, directly mounting the stepper towers to the frame without tnuts

sharp valve
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Some more practice holes, got a hang of it now I think, bit of dish soap as lube, slowly at first then gradually speeding up

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Lol tried tapping the end of an extrusion but snapped the bit ๐Ÿ˜…

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So that probably means no directly screwing the towers into the frame yet, but that can be done later, would want to print out appropriate jigs for that anyway, for now I'll just focus on blind jointing

cyan gyro
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Spiral flute taps work the best

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Wd40 for lube

sharp valve
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Ok I'll go for those

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Blind jointing test went well, so now I can start taking the printer apart

sharp valve
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Making progress, almost done with the top half

sharp valve
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I think I'll leave the bottom for when I take it apart anyway to assemble the skirt

round oracle
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do everything

sharp valve
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I'm almost done with the bottom panels as well as custom enclosure, I'll do the rest then, plus by then I'll have the tap needed to do the rear hydra arm

sharp valve
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Aaaa that was tiring

sharp valve
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Top hat fit test is good

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Now I can get to designing the top pieces

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And as for the bottom panels, I just need to cut them to fit, plus ercf mounting arms on the back

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There's the issue that the front panel holders block off the tensioner adjustment, but due to blind jointing, these holders no longer have to be screwed into both the y and z extrusions, so they're easy enough to remove

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Top will be interesting to do, am thinking of maybe having two 400mm extrusions for rigidity and convenient mounting points for leds and camera

sharp valve
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Hmm weird, looks like the ecas fit on the sherpa has gotten too loose to hold

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I guess probably because the tent enclosure I used to use was a bit low

sharp valve
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superglued it on, then thought it didn't stick, printed out a separate collet holder, started taking the toolhead apart to mount it, only to find that the glue set in the time that it took to print the separate holder lol

sharp valve
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Sorted through many issues trying to get the bottom electronics bay panels to print

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Beacon contact offset was high and unpredictable, turned out that the screws holding the rapido heatblock had gotten a bit loose

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Loose ecas caused the incoming filament to get caught along an edge of the printer, causing skipped steps, glued it on

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Then contact was throwing a sample spread too high error on some plates, at first I thought maybe they were too soft, but it was inconsistent

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Saw a thread about it in annex about it potentially being sticking in the z axis, sp lubed up the leadscrews and rails

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Will have to see if it's fixed, but for now seems fine

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Oh and of course, large flat prints are so annoyingly sensitive to touching the plate, had to wash it with soap to get good adhesion everywhere

sharp valve
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Ugh, I think the heater block came loose again in the middle of a print

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Maybe I'll have to loctite them

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Or I guess maybe they need to be tightened when hot

sharp valve
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They had indeed come loose again

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Looks like loctiting them has worked for others

sharp valve
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Fixed, for now, back to near flawless first layers

sharp valve
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spent all that time trying to churn out pla bottom enclosure pieces, only to accidentally leave them in the sun for a few minutes and have to throw them out lol

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got some petg showing up today instead

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can't do asa until I get around to setting up the enclosure

sharp valve
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huh, this is new

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warping with petg

cyan gyro
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while printing?

sharp valve
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Nope, after the print had cooled down

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Could be adhesion or uneven cooling, since only the front corners curled up (was one of the electronics enclosure panels)

sharp valve
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Need to update my cutter design, maybe this weekend, devised a better way to retain the spring

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Idea is to have a long m3 screw mounted to the toolhead with spring on the screw, washer at end, and then going through the arm

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Thus the spring is always fully held in

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Right now I have the issue where the part that prevents the arm from moving too far out has worn out a little, so it sometimes goes slightly too far back and allows the spring to fall out

sharp valve
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cutter design updated, printing, hopefully this approach for holding the spring works well

round oracle
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still need one

sharp valve
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idea is to have a long m3 in front, pen spring goes on the screw, then a washer to hold the spring in, then the arm goes in, with the cutout that allows the screw to move

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should get rid of my current issue of the spring sometimes still falling out

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well, hopefully

sharp valve
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Ok nope, not working, due to being at an angle, the washer catches onto the screw threads

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oh, this is a kind of awful, kind of great solution

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Piece of filament instead

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Will just need to adjust the design a bit to actually hold it, but ought to work

sharp valve
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Finally getting around to printing again, cool to see that besides needing a manual nozzle clean to fix beacon, it works without maintenance

sharp valve
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doing a bit of fiddling to procrastinate finishing up my thesis, trying to put together a little peltier dehumidifier, maybe it can keep the area where I keep my filaments a bit more dry than ambient

sharp valve
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lol nvm, massively underestimated how much heat sinking I'd need

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might work if I limit the power to the module

sharp valve
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Ok yeah, technically that works, I even see a humidity difference, but the effect isn't strong enough to be worthwhile I think

sharp valve
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Yeah was a neat experiment but would be better to just get dry boxes

sharp valve
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Was having some trouble with bridging on PLA, but looks like swapping out the fans fixed it, maybe they were worn out, although it could also be because they were set to draw from the same port? Original pair was winsinn, swapped them for gdstime fans using separate ports on the thr36, so far temperature tower has much better bridging (still has other issues though)

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Lately, while passable, the prints haven't been as high quality as I'd like

round oracle
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but had them before as well like than and no issues

sharp valve
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Ouch

round oracle
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yeah, already have 2 thrs like that

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one of them with a dead can transceiver too ๐Ÿ˜…

sharp valve
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But yeah, I don't recall it having been an issue before, so I also figure the fans might've just been dying

sharp valve
round oracle
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24v on it

sharp valve
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Oof

round oracle
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yep, and then I understood why the jumpers for those fans voltage was by default on 5v

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and idiot me thought, suuure let's put them at 24V

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it would have survived

sharp valve
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Oh yeah I think I remember being extra careful about that based on when you had that happen lol

round oracle
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well someone learned from my mistake, I consider that a win

sharp valve
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Haha

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Now I just wish we'd get more usb toolhead boards, would be even cooler to get one with a built-in hub for hooking up a beacon directly

sharp valve
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Retraction test, I guess maybe the retraction speed is way too high

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Dropped from 120 to 30mm/s, better but still completely stringy

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I feel like this might be because of cht melt zone extender plus cht nozzle

sharp valve
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Maybe I'll switch the mze to a non-cht one

sharp valve
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Oh neat, looks like it does

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I might have a nitehawk in my future, seems to have all the bells and whistles

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Even uart on the stepper

sharp valve
round oracle
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@sharp valve what filament is it

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and temps

sharp valve
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just read it might be just silk being bad, so I'll try regular pla I guess

round oracle
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wet maybe?

sharp valve
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It's fresh out of the dryer

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Tried plain pla, same issue ๐Ÿ˜ฉ

round oracle
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ehhhh

sharp valve
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Extruder is tensioned hard too, so it shouldn't be slipping...

sharp valve
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Yeah

round oracle
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2?

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or 1

sharp valve
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Yep

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2

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Uhf

round oracle
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I think I saw turtle mentioning some 2s misreporting temp

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under what it really was IIRC

sharp valve
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Hmm, I'm using a pt1000, and at room temperature it matches the reading from beacon, but I guess I can check the nozzle temperature with another thermistor

round oracle
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worth double checking

sharp valve
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Or maybe I'll just try another temperature tower, currently, the layer adhesion would drop too much before stringing would go away

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But that was before swapping out the cht mze to a regular one (nozzle is still cht though)

round oracle
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I'm not getting stringing on rapido1 with extender just a looot of oozing when stopped

sharp valve
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Yeah I get that too

round oracle
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which kinda sucks with carto touch

sharp valve
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Ended up deciding to try fiddling with seam settings first

sharp valve
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But yeah, occasionally it still causes trouble

round oracle
sharp valve
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for me it's just the default that it auto-unloads at the end of print

sharp valve
sharp valve
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Eh, gave in and tried a lower temperature, at 200 the stringing becomes very fine fibers, so next, 190

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Still, weird that I didn't used to have to drop it this low

cyan gyro
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What hotend?

sharp valve
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Rapido 2 uhf with a pt1000, flow4enol already mentioned the temperature reading inaccuracies, but it used to print fine without stringing previously too

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Ok at 190 it's perfect, no stringing at all even at just 0.1mm retraction, but at 195, there's stringing even at 1+ mm retraction

cyan gyro
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I would assume that's the issue then

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They could get worse with time

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Not sure why they have issues

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But it's possible it's just running hotter than it reports now

sharp valve
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Ah yeah that would make sense I guess

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I guess I really should get around to hooking up another thermistor to check the temperature at the nozzle

sharp valve
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Swapped back to the cht mze, now to see if this temperature keeps working

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Although I'm kinda suspicious if cht mze + cht nozzle is actually worthwhile

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Since if the holes don't align, it'd just reduce flow

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Although on the other hand, since the insert in the mze can spin, maybe it aligns itself

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Works alright, although the stringing at higher retractions seems a bit strange

cyan gyro
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to much retraction can lead to more stringing

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I find with direct drive, even with UHF hotends aroudn .5mm retraction is ideal

sharp valve
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I see, thanks for the tip, looks like I'll end up going for around .5 also

round oracle
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.5 is my default, I only change it if I get too much stringing

sharp valve
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Yep, set to .5, approaching being back to decent print quality, now just pressure advance left

cyan gyro
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its wierd how to much can be worse than to little

sharp valve
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Yeah, I wonder what causes that to happen

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Now printing the orca tolerance test

sharp valve
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weird, tolerance test is still stringing

sharp valve
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Oh I hadn't realized this temperature deviation issue was significant enough that phaetus offer some sort of replacement

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Ah apparently they moved the thermistor mount to the other side and closer to the nozzle

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I guess I'll worry about that later, for now I'll just lower the temperature a bit more

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vs the printed insert, tolerances are at a nice 0.05mm

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vs an m6 hex key, 0.2mm

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and this issue of walls sometimes being slightly curved continues, probably either input shaper or PA

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Seems connected to these small gaps that occur between walls

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Wall curving is very visible at the corner here

sharp valve
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ok, not PA

sharp valve
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redoing input shaper didn't fix it, but when I slowed it down to like 40mm/s it did go away...

sharp valve
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Going to try dropping down to 200mm/s, it'll do for now, by the time I'll have time to worry about wanting to print fast again, I'll be able to afford the custom frame

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Or even just multiple printers

sharp valve
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Even capped the speed to 100mm/s, still has the issue...

sharp valve
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I'm going to try bumping the PA value even higher

sharp valve
sharp valve
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Reducing smoothing time helped a little, increasing square corner velocity just made the corners rounder, but the walls continue to be kind of bad, trying a different wall order next

sharp valve
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Ooh changing wall order helped a lot

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Just need to reprint after fixing some stuff probably related to reducing smoothing time too much, and then hopefully I'll have a nice near perfect print

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Oh! In orcaslicer, precise wall makes it so the outer perimeter is not overlapping with the inner perimeters, but it's only active when the wall order is inner-outer

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And it was activated

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And since I switched wall order, precise wall would've gotten disabled

sharp valve
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๐Ÿ˜•it's much better but still not good enough

sharp valve
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Come to think of it, I should also check against another slicer

sharp valve
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Looks like slightly increasing flow rate and reducing accelerations resolved the rest

sharp valve
round oracle
sharp valve
round oracle
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walls or top surface?

sharp valve
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Top surface

round oracle
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I'll he honest, hard to see for me the camera didn't focus on top

sharp valve
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Although it looks like I can set the standard flow rate for proper wall thickness and then tune the top surface flow rate separately

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Lol ok, I'll try again

round oracle
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BTW did you ever install belay?

sharp valve
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I did install it, but took it out because it isn't really useful for ercf

round oracle
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question was more going towards where in the filament path you put it

sharp valve
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Tradrack iirc doesn't have an encoder so it needs a feedback mechanism for extruder sync, but ercf can get that feedback using the encoder

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Ah

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I just put it roughly halfway between the reverse bowden from mmu to toolhead

round oracle
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come to think of it, I should recalibrate mine and maaaybe add belay

sharp valve
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the current ercf encoder is supposed to be ~1mm accuracy iirc

round oracle
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here both sherpa and TR are with the "default" values and have been using sync without issues but want to re check

sharp valve
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Yeah I feel like maybe the need for it might be a bit overblown

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Reprinted the tolerance test, top doesn't have the large gaps from before, but those diagonal bits still have some prominent bulging

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But I guess this is close enough

sharp valve
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printed out a benchy, not going all that fast now with 5k accel, so it took ~45 minutes, but turned out pretty much flawless

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so I guess that for now the problem is sorted out

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this is also the only print where I've thought this silk filament didn't look ugly

jagged ice
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prints are looking nice, dot

sharp valve
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Thanks, the seemingly poor quality did turn out to be in part related to the filament, printed this GPU holder recently and it turned out beautifully

sharp valve
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Well, now that I'm finally done with the dissertation, I can spend more time playing with this machine again

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(I get to call myself a doctor now woooo POG )

cyan gyro
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Congrats

sharp valve
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Thanks!

round oracle
frail plaza
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congrats!

sharp valve
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thanks, both of you! ๐Ÿ˜Š

sharp valve
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thinking that it might be a good excuse to try something different, maybe a custom solution integrated with the cutter (which can also use a few improvements)

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maybe a fully printed sensor using a bit of conductive filament ๐Ÿค”

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I also bought a bunch of hall effect sensors recently, might be interesting to try a sensor based on one of those

sharp valve
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oh, I'll switch the cutter to a design like this

sharp valve
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Maybe overall something like this, tnuts turn out to be pretty ferromagnetic, so they should provide a nice way to connect wires

sharp valve
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Or this slightly more compact setup

sharp valve
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trying to do this design in ondsel

frail plaza
sharp valve
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my understanding is that ondsel is just freecad with some qol/ui improvements

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this is supposed to be a cutter + toolhead sensor

frail plaza
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Itโ€™s true, but freecad really ramped up with the improvements, also thanks to ondsel. Iโ€™m not sure ondels kept with the improvements in the main branch. if you donโ€™t need the collaborative part (which I think itโ€™s even a plugin that you can install in freecad, I think) Iโ€™d give freecad 1.1.0dev (the current version of the weekly) a try

sharp valve
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oh, thanks for the info, I'll do that

frail plaza
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I felt freecad was unusable before, now I find it very easy to get what I want.. well closer to what I need ๐Ÿ˜…

sharp valve
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yeah I switched to ondsel because the freecad ui was really annoying to use, I kept finding myself just going back to jankily using blender

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but didn't really have a chance to try it until now, so far I've been liking it, just downloaded the freecad weekly though

frail plaza
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I use a black theme snd rearranged (drag snd drop) the toolbars/panels when I liked the most, and itโ€™s not badโ€ฆ I should have a bigger screen though ๐Ÿ˜…

sharp valve
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oh huh, yeah, this isn't all that different from ondsel

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neat

round oracle
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I just want to run Solidworks on linux

sharp valve
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I wonder if it might be realistic to use a printed spring for the cutter

sharp valve
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Another interesting idea would be to use gears instead of a lever

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Nvm, that'd be much larger than a lever for 3d printed gears

sharp valve
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print-in-place hinge instead, and the sensor magnets are also embedded into the print

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just need to add a path for the spring holder, and cutout for the blade in the base

sharp valve
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done, I think

sharp valve
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it's a bit taller than I'd like at 1cm, but probably still thinner than having them separate

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could maybe shave off ~1mm

frail plaza
round oracle
sharp valve
jagged ice
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a little late, but congrats doc!

sharp valve
sharp valve
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Getting around to printing the cutter + sensor design, I think I'll also redo my nozzle brush + purge bucket to be more effective at cleaning the nozzle

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Nozzle cleanliness constantly causes trouble with the beacon

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Going to shorten the bristles on the silicone brush, and use a washer to cut the purge off

sharp valve
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The print-in-place arm works well, but the sensor does not, margins must be too tight

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Going to rethink the sensor, I'm not too happy with the design

sharp valve
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I could also just completely drop the sensor and use stallguard

sharp valve
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redid most of the cad (previous one was a mess because I hadn't fully understood the distinction between parts and bodies) and removed the sensor, it's still pretty thick compared to the one I've been using, but I think it might be tolerable in exchange for being a bit sturdier and hopefully more reliable

sharp valve
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Tried using a magnet setup instead of a physical spring, but not strong enough

round oracle
sharp valve
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Maybe I'll try a printed spring structure next

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The lever is already print-in-place, might as well see if I can have the whole thing be that way besides the blade

sharp valve
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That'll probably add wear and tear issues, so instead I think I'll try the springs from the ercf

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Looks like that'll work, I'm a little concerned about the stress along the layer lines on the lever, maybe I can add a hole for a structural support screw

round oracle
sharp valve
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ah you meant the shaper result, I feel like that isn't going to improve much with this no matter what

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adjustments to accommodate the ercf spring, also some potential strength improvements

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the arm should probably also be printed solid, I'm unsure about the hole in the arm pivot, I added it to allow for a screw to strengthen it, but now the walls are pretty thing

sharp valve
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ah I can just switch it to an m2 lol

round oracle
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@sharp valve which springs are you considering?

sharp valve
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ball pen springs seem a little too soft, while bed leveling springs seem too hard, I got these for the ERCF, iirc they're similar to extruder springs (and serve a similar function in ERCF), in hand testing they feel just right, but haven't printed the updated design yet to do a proper test

round oracle
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got some extra ones for sherpa might try them

sharp valve
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I'll get around to testing it later today, need to finish some work first ๐Ÿ˜…

round oracle
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I was talking about this design:

sharp valve
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oh, I don't think I've seen that one before

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that's your original?

round oracle
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will add a sensor under

sharp valve
# frail plaza Itโ€™s true, but freecad really ramped up with the improvements, also thanks to on...

This suggestion ended up being prescient lol https://x.com/ondsel/status/1851908596247773265

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frail plaza
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too bad they couldnโ€™t keep the business, but it was great for the community

round oracle
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well crap

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maybe the freecad โ€œecosystemโ€ is not yet ready, if it was as easy as onshape, that would have been accessible to a bigger market. however there are things you can do in freecad, if you can code python, itโ€™s basically limitless

sharp valve
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Lol my luck with the BTT MMB board seems to be awful

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First time around it was a dud

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This time around they forgot the drivers

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Oh nvm, Amazon is doing something weird with the package with the drivers

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Slightly annoying but not a big deal I suppose, I probably wasn't going to get around to hooking it up yet anyway

sharp valve
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Well, since I've done the cutter redesign, next is the purge/nozzle brush redesign

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Last time I just came up with something simple as a stopgap till implementing that adaptive color sensor pellet purge thing, but I don't feel like adaptive purge is necessary for now

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with the mercury the challenge would be that the bucket should be attached to the frame but the bed moves

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so maybe a system where the bucket is stowable

sharp valve
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actually, is that really necessary ๐Ÿค” could instead just have the bin at the bottom

sharp valve
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this should work for wiping nozzle while leaving the option for making a magnetic bucket later

sharp valve
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going to try printing the brush holder and the cutter using this trick: https://youtu.be/gbtlL8mTqJI

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orca made it a bit annoying to force through, what I ended up doing is setting up a PLA raft and using support blockers to prevent actual supports from being generated

sharp valve
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initial impression is it kinda works

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Asa sticks to pla just enough to print while being easy to remove after

sharp valve
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Had to restart print to remove the interface layer

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And it warped

sharp valve
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Ah the interface layer is still there and since it doesn't strongly grab the corners, it makes sense that it didn't do anything for warping

sharp valve
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Just going to go with the good old bedweld for now

sharp valve
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neat, nozzle brush is almost perfect, needs to be just slightly lower

sharp valve
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Oooh potentially decent purge system design, using a lever pushed by the duct to pop pellets out of the purge area

sharp valve
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repulsive magnets keep the green lever 'open', nozzle pushes the lever into the shown position, then purges, when the nozzle moves back, the lever should knock the purge blob off

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will have to wrap the lever in a bit of kapton tape, and maybe aluminum foil on the platform

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or maybe kapton tape on both I guess

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need to figure out how to mount a bucket on this though

sharp valve
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learning a lot of little cad things in the process, figured out how to make parametric stuff and figured out how to not have to redo everything if I edit a sketch that breaks attachment points for parts that come after

sharp valve
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lever works well, magnetically mounting it to the holder does not

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I'll make it use screws I guess

frail plaza
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with external geometry? I wonder if there are other ways ๐Ÿ˜…. the thing that with a 30y old open source project, and fast evolving, documentation gets a bit inconsistent across versions

sharp valve
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Mounting issue fixed, lever mechanism works when in place, issue is that wiping on the brush requires the lever to be stowed in this way, but then there's no way to bring it back into a position the toolhead can push on

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I don't want to add yet another piece on the toolhead to be able to grab it

sharp valve
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Maybe I should just go for active control after all

sharp valve
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Oh man totally forgot about just making the blob in a corner on the bed and knocking it into the bucket

frail plaza
sharp valve
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It's hard to decide, I feel like if I'm going to use active parts, it should be a more comprehensive system, but then alternatively I could just compromise and do something simple like using a corner of the bed

frail plaza
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Iโ€™m always hesitant to add a servo for this. it complicates things

sharp valve
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Yeah exactly

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I'd actually prefer to use a stepper over a servo, less maintenance and better integrated with klipper

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Maybe a rack and pinion setup which helps to form a pellet while also causing the pellet to pop out afterwards

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But then I want to also have the ability to sort into different bins based on material

sharp valve
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However if going for such a solution, maybe it'll be better for speeds if it takes up the entire axis rather than just hanging off the top...

sharp valve
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finally got around to swapping in the new cutter design

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had to swap out the ptfe between hotend and cutter for wider inner-diameter

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appears to work well, but might have to flip the design and add a 'funnel' to allow the tip to pass more smoothly through the gap

sharp valve
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something like this

sharp valve
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shaper testing time

sharp valve
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checked with "excitate axis at freq", holding the cutter arm doesn't change anything, so I assume the arm isn't contributing

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next some cutter testing

sharp valve
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ok cutter is working

sharp valve
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test time

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brush broke...

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along the layer lines, which, tbh, was what I was worried about

sharp valve
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ah, a piece I forgot to remove probably got in the way and caused the issue, the replacement is fine

sharp valve
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Had a scheduled power outage today so took the chance to get some maintenance done on the printer

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Cleaning up wiring, putting in a fan bracket for the leviathan instead of fans loosely sitting on the rails

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Removing the 5v buck converter since I shouldn't need it anymore, finally got around to ordering a meanwell 24v supply to replace the random brand that came with the e5

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Also ordered a 48v psu

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Kind of torn over the canbus cable, I have a bunch of that really flexible silicone insulation cable, it works fine, but it isn't really stiff enough, can't figure out what I should do to replace it, particularly since it has to go into the tiny screw terminals on the thr36

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Almost considering switching the toolhead to usb

round oracle
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I'm running 0.75mmยฒ silicone wire and it's stiff enough

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4 of them, 24V twisted and then CAN twisted

round oracle
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yes

sharp valve
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I have this shitty solution at the moment, oversized sleeve (which is just about stiff enough to not drop get in the way) with ptfe to provide additional stiffness so the weight isn't on the toolhead

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Yeah maybe I just need a properly sized sleeve

round oracle
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might help, put the PTFE inside the sleeve as well, helps in 2 ways

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makes it tighter and at the same time gives more rigidity

sharp valve
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Oh yeah that's a good idea

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Maybe I could even relocate the ercf to the back and pass its tube through

sharp valve
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Well also ordered properly sized sleeving

sharp valve
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It'll help tidy up this nest

sharp valve
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Might as well also get around to replacing the camera's hdmi cable with a shorter more flexible one

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Was thinking of doing the same for the screen, but I figure letting the cable for that be long would be better, can more easily move it around

sharp valve
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Looks like it's going to be a bit tricky to squeeze everything into the electronics bay

round oracle
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that PSU is a little big

sharp valve
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Yep

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Oversized for what I need tbh

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I wonder if I could drop the 24v to 150W

round oracle
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I think you can

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rapido right?

sharp valve
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Yep

round oracle
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it will draw close to 100 when it starts heating up but after that not much

sharp valve
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It'd only have to power the hotend and steppers for ercf, z axis and extruder

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Yeah

round oracle
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speaking of ercf, might need a new servo

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(for TR)

sharp valve
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Were you using the savox one?

round oracle
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ever had issues where the servo doesn't move? but with a power cycle things go back to normal?

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borked a print today because of that

round oracle
sharp valve
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Could it be the power supply? What board are you using?

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Mine was powered by a separate 5v buck converter, although I'm going to be seeing if I can directly power off the btt mmb

round oracle
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mellow easy brd

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I'll ping around annex

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I don't think I've heard anything about it having trouble powering servos, so yeah, might be best to check with others who have more experience

round oracle
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might eventually get the FT1117M-FB as recommended by BOM

sharp valve
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The board that had come with my kit was known to have too weak of a supply for a servo, so that's been my go-to concern for servo issues

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Well, ordered an lrs-150, will have to pick it up during my grocery run tomorrow, but that's better than having to wait till Monday

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That'll give plenty of room in the bay I think

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Hmm yeah, so looks like with hydra, a 200w psu is recommended, then since I'm moving the x and y steppers to 48v, 150 ought to be sufficient for the rest

round oracle
sharp valve
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I wonder how that happened and how I didn't catch it before

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Going to have to finally make holes in the bed magnet to sort this one out

sharp valve
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Oh I have a theory, the sexbolt used to be mounted to this tank

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So there might've been sometime when the toolhead kept pressing down without the sexbolt triggering

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Causing this to happen

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Making the hole in the magnet wasn't as clean as I'd have liked, but managed enough to fix the issue

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I'm going to guess this is going to fix the slight change in tilt each time and maybe also the slight uncorrectable tilt in the bed mesh on the rear

sharp valve
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pepery noticing a bunch of cracks on the hydra base parts, seemingly due to the frame

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Not bad enough to make them unusable, but certainly going to become a problem eventually

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Will see about printing out replacements in case they become necessary, but once my work stuff is sorted out I think I'll finally go and order the beta frame

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Although I wonder if it might be the filament I used, ABS-GF, with the cracks being along layer lines

sharp valve
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Neat, these are pretty small and will fit easily

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Bonus of no fans

sharp valve
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Would be cool to mount them like this

sharp valve
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Ok PSUs are hooked up, just finished crimping the 2x2 molex for canbus on the leviathan, turned out much better than the first one I was using

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Redid the umbilical too

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Need to make up my mind on if I solder it together or stick to wagos

sharp valve
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printer is alive again! fixing the tank on the z axis didn't affect the bed level, still ~0.13mm difference, hasn't really mattered but was still curious

sharp valve
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Looking a lot better

sharp valve
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the absolute silence from the printer's corner now that there isn't any fan running when idle is really noticeable

sharp valve
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Oh that Y shaper is beautiful

sharp valve
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While the shapers suggest that 10k accel is doable now, the printer shakes a bit too much for my liking

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Might lower it to ~8k

sharp valve
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I think next I'll finally get around to cutting down the long wires on the toolhead

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And maybe getting rid of the toolhead led strip for a stationary strip

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I wonder if reprinting the toolhead in PC might be good

sharp valve
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Eh gave in and ordered a new tent enclosure, I really can't go without abs/asa anymore

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This one should hopefully be less of an eyesore, tall enough to fit the 1.1 and has a side open up completely, I figure I can pull the ercf outside easily now that it just has the one canbus cable

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I also have a ton of abs to get through, I want to use up as much of my current stock of filament as I can before having to move at the end of the year

sharp valve
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Looks like I can sustain a 30 scv

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Probably need to look at retuning pressure advance to see if I can fix the "directional" bulging at 10k accel, and maybe I can go a little over 400mm/s velocity

sharp valve
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Looks like I'll have to tweak the fan mounting on the leviathan to allow using its rpi power supply cable and board, getting undervoltage warnings and even a timer too close over particularly heavy gcode or timelapse processing

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Maybe skirt mounting some fans will be enough

sharp valve
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Print died due to timer too close, but looks like just taking out the middle fan was sufficient to make room for the board, no undervoltage/throttling warning on starting the same print this time

sharp valve
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So I thought that the especially large shaking might be related to having the printer sitting on carpeting, stuck an acrylic sheet underneath, mitigated thr issue significantly

sharp valve
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This one is much better than the previous tent

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Way larger than the printer and much easier to work on the printer in

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I could probably store filament to "dry" in there during printing and the rest on top

sharp valve
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Looks like I might want a bed fan now to help heat this up quickly

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Maybe one of the 120mm blowers, I think I saw a mod for mounting one on the bottom of the frame

sharp valve
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This is for cooling the pei, but it could also work for heating up the chamber I think

frail plaza
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yes, the bambu lab spins the auxiliary fan 100% during heating. it makes sense

sharp valve
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well first I gotta reprint a bunch of parts in asa before the petg melts lol

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I think mainly the cutter and brush

sharp valve
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But well, besides needing to replace the carbon filter, it works, so good enough

sharp valve
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reprinting the toolhead while at it, I'm hoping the X input shaper issue is related to something worn slightly loose

sharp valve
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Was a risk printing a full plate of parts right away, but looks like everything worked out mostly fine, could maybe add a little part cooling, but no warping on the toolhead parts

sharp valve
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now to try printing pc again

sharp valve
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going super slow, first layer seems to be going down fine

sharp valve
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welp one piece popped off, had to slow down even more, ~70mm/s max

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rest are sticking for now

sharp valve
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well nvm, every part eventually warped and popped off the bed

sharp valve
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maybe I can print it in htpla instead

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huh I must've just imagined the sherpa mini page suggesting to aim for stiffness, pc is just the 'approved alternative'

sharp valve
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took my time to clean up the toolhead parts and inserts, thinking of also using a bit of loctite when putting it together this time

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going to hold off on taking apart the current toolhead till tomorrow, when I'll have time to properly shorten and route all of the wires

sharp valve
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was looking around to see if there were any better buffer options available, but instead found that someone fixed the biggest issue I have with the gravity autorewinder

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the axle parts have a tendency to come apart and the fit seems loose enough that superglue didn't help either

round oracle
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how much can that spool back in

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without any motors etc the filamentalist still feels like the best option

hollow crystal
sharp valve
sharp valve
sharp valve
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had another servo horn wear out on the ercf, tried a new clamping design which is supposed to be more robust

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had a hard time at first since it wouldn't fit at all, but after retuning flow rate and print temp for abs, it fit with very little trouble

sharp valve
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ayyyy reassembled toolhead cleaned the x shaper up nicely

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took cleaning up the massive lump of wires I had hanging off the side of the toolhead and reprinting all the parts since the previous set was kind of worn out from overtightening screws or using ones that were too long

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y-shaper stayed clean too

sharp valve
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well I guess I'm switching to cpap

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Ordered the turbo kit due to the 20% sale on Amazon, then immediately regretted it budget-wise only for it to fail to cancel

frail plaza
sharp valve
frail plaza
sharp valve
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On the bright side looks like the hepa filter on the cpap mount might be a similar size to the bentobox ones, so I shouldn't need to buy those, I wonder if it's reasonable to also have the cpap pullbair through the carbon

sharp valve
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Theoretically something could be setup using its i2c port

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But that'd only be worthwhile if needing a bunch of fan ports

frail plaza
sharp valve
frail plaza
sharp valve
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I thinking the valuable thing about the kit is more that it has a board that converts typical fan pwm to the signals the cpap needs, which, I understand, allows for better control

sharp valve
frail plaza
sharp valve
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Yep

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To be fair though, it might be the case that I'm misunderstanding and you could control it via the gpios of your board

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I only really started looking at it seriously after the order failed to cancel lol

sharp valve
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that second peak is back after a couple of prints...

round oracle
sharp valve
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Probably

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The plastic safe loctite is going to take some time to arrive, for now I guess it's good enough that the accels haven't dropped

sharp valve
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Jank setup to see if static cooling fans make for a good way to help speed up chamber heating

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So far, seems to help, heat bed power went up from 10% to maintain temperature to 35%

round oracle
sharp valve
round oracle
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so they blow the air right above

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I don't know the exact science names but blowing right above will move the heat

sharp valve
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Hmm, my main issue with SCS is that the mounting is a bit clunky

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I guess I'll check into it again, it's possible I'm just doing something wrong

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Looks like I'll have to check properly for leaks in the tent too, can't seem get get past 44C

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I'm hoping to be able to hit at least 50C, currently still getting some occasional slight warping even with asa

sharp valve
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Well, I got myself a small space heater, could try using it to warm up the enclosure too

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Mainly got it because I'm sick of this room's awfully weak heating

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But could be interesting to see what it does for warming up the enclosure

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Technically against the dorm rules, but screw it, they've been awful for my entire stay and I'm leaving in a month

sharp valve
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Saw advice to just stick a blanket over the enclosure, appears to work somewhat

sharp valve
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Seems pretty marginal actually, ~3C improvement

hollow crystal
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Like 10deg C at least

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Was super surprised

sharp valve
# hollow crystal Like 10deg C at least

Wow that's a big difference! I'll have to see if maybe there's something I missed letting cold air in, if even sticking a blanket over hasn't had a big impact

sharp valve
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Strange, now it can't even hit 40

hollow crystal
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That's suspicious...

ember patrol
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I put a heater in my p1p(enclosed in isolation)๐Ÿ˜…

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Just one of these hand warmers

sharp valve
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Yeah I have a heater showing up today which I can tie up with a thermal fuse and ssr to actively heat the chamber, but I want to try without active heating first

sharp valve
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Strange, rotated the enclosure and disconnected some stuff to fully close some of the side openings, now seems to fluctuate between 44 and 46

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Not sure what to make of the fluctuation

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the bed is near the bottom, the chamber thermistor is on the printer floor and the hotend is off, so its thermistor also provides a useful reading

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hotend temperature is still slowly rising to 44C, while chamber temperature keeps fluctuating between 44 and 46, so, maybe I have some cold air leaking in at the bottom

sharp valve
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Chamber heater has it getting up to ~55c in 20 minutes

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Will see where it stabilizes

sharp valve
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40 minutes for 60c

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still slowly climbing, so yeah, I'll definitely have to hook it up with active control if I intend to keep using it

sharp valve
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Ah I think I have a better solution to my short term enclosure issue, I have acrylic panels for the "body" of the printer, I could enclose the body and make some corner pieces to hold up, say, a blanket, over the top

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Then should have no need to worry about wiring in a chamber heater

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Especially since ~Jan-Feb I'd like to start switching to the beta enclosure

sharp valve
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Cpap cooling installed

sharp valve
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now to figure out what's a reasonable speed to run this at lol

sharp valve
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thinking about how I might be able to use some sound deadening foam I have laying around to muffle noise

sharp valve
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ah, I could line the cpap box with the foam

sharp valve
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I guess tomorrow I'll start trying to print some of the parts for the v0.2, first the stuff that can be in any filament, then, for everything that needs asa, I'll stick a blanket on top and hope for the best

sharp valve
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I think I'll try my hand at designing a carbon filter and noise muffler attachment for this cpap

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also interested in seeing if a muffler on the outlet will do anything to reduce the noise at the toolhead

sharp valve
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idea here is to line the inside with deadening foam and fill with cotton, similar to with headphones, if that doesn't do the trick, I'm thinking of making little cylinders to go into the holes with some sort of muffler design

sharp valve
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Seems to work. Although I should have made a direct measurement comparison

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it still is loud, but the high pitched whir is gone

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instead of cotton, I cut up a sponge and packed that in

sharp valve
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Oooh seems like the remaining noise is just the outlet, I wonder if foam in the duct might be effective, I'm guessing probably not

frail plaza
sharp valve
frail plaza
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but it might whistle even more that what you have right now ๐Ÿ˜…

sharp valve
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So tentacool is probably even louder

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Properly reducing the pressure I think would involve something akin to a rocket nozzle shape, but idk, rockets are pretty loud too ๐Ÿ˜…

frail plaza
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so is the btt cpap plug and play on the mcu fan pins?

sharp valve
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Yep, board with the lever terminals takes a 24v input pair and a separate pwm input pair, the pwm pair goes into any regular fan port and 24v of course from the psu

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There are some klipper config side things like the minimum and maximum fan speed, but that's not too big of a deal

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Since the driver can't drive the motor below a certain speed (~8%) and there isn't really any difference in speed past ~90% iirc

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Might be cool to test what kind of nozzle produces the least noise, maybe next project after the 0.2

sharp valve
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-_- what now

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beacon mount screws shook loose I guess

sharp valve
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Well, took advantage of the dfh sale to pick up a cnc sherpa

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For now probably not all that meaningful of a change since the rest of the toolhead is still plastic, but may be nice once I get around to switching to a metal toolhead and metal gantry

frail plaza
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โ€ฆ with cpap

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Iโ€™m trying to design a toolhead very like the one flow4enol shared in his build, that uses the same style of the metal gantry (alu plates and standoffs for structures and printed parts to add features)โ€ฆ Iโ€™m doing it in freecad, so if you want to have funโ€ฆ

sharp valve
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getting the parts made in metal and tested would have to wait until January, but otherwise

frail plaza
round oracle
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I would ask if you wanted to test mine but no CPAP

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oh and not sherpa mini I'm moving to micro

sharp valve
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Definitely can't be before then though, got a busy December ahead of me

round oracle
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having feedback would be nice but it's a choiceless toolhead

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rapido, sherpa micro, dual 5015

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it's also sensorless on X

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damn I was going to call it no choice but Choiceless kinda sounds good to me

sharp valve
round oracle
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Yeah then not that much of an issue to test it

round oracle
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just need to test print it first

sharp valve
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I got some inspiration for a toolchanger design from youtube recently so playing around with different toolheads might help to formulate a merc toolchanger

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Basically, cut out a bunch of the cost by making the filament able to come out of the extruder without pulling out of the hotend, saves the cost of a separate extruder per toolhead and since an issue with toolchangers seems to be z-offset, I'm thinking a metal system can be more consistent

round oracle
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WDYM

sharp valve
# round oracle WDYM

I built this cheap tool changer for 3D printers. Why?

Because I wanted to quickly switch between different colors and materials but didn't want to pay up to $4000!

And extremely slow printing times and tons of wasted filament is not a sacrifice I'm willing to make.

So I built a tool changer that is purely mechanical without any additional mot...

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I think the basic idea of an extruder with a path like this is decent enough, but the rest of this I feel is a bit janky

round oracle
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ohh got it for some reason I was thinking single hotend

sharp valve
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Hotends have gotten pretty cheap lately so I think multihotend might not be too bad nowadays

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Per tool: ~$30 hotend + ~$20 toolhead board per tool (or a custom board specifically for several heater + thermistor + fan sets) + ~$20 or whatever metal mounting plates end up costing

frail plaza
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uses a 3010 fan, cpap and the ducts holes from the vz toolhead (for compatibility), the cutter I'm either integrating it in the hotend fan shroud, it seems quite tight there, or just add a printed module under the extruder, but I feel I'm defeating the purpose of the metal toolhead

sharp valve
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I was thinking, since we can, to make a slot on the top plate to use as a rail fot the cutter "holder" or at least to make some clearance for a bolt to fasten the blade (and add a 1mm plate under the top plate to create the gap where the blade will slide into)

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I tested and a ~9mm wide blade can slide thought the rapido screws

sharp valve
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Oh yeah, that could work

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The main challenge I've seen with designing a cutter is getting the lever right, so far I've had the handle break on every design

frail plaza
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but, also the level and arm could be designed in metal, since we are at it

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that would make tiny pieces strong enough to work reliably

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hm, I was thinking to share the FCstd file, but it's too big, I probably have to clean it ๐Ÿ˜…

round oracle
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I don't want to invade the log but I'm getting ideas for the cutter

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(on mine)

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only one "problem" metal cutter might be a little heavier

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but I do like the metal arm idea

sharp valve
sharp valve
round oracle
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attaching the blade is an issue without cutting slots in the metal

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might go with an aluminium sandwich 2x2mm

sharp valve
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Hmm

round oracle
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that or a 3mm piece with a 1mm printed just to act as a cover for the blade with the cutout, actual rigidity comes from steel pins

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got 2x8mm ones so I can cut down

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either way arm has 4mm

sharp valve
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Seeing the extrusions in this v0 kit, I now see even more clearly how awful the base e5pro frame is ๐Ÿ˜…

sharp valve
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the rails are meh, but the rest seems pretty high quality

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lightweight gantry and solid cnc bed mount already included

willow badger
sharp valve
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I've moved forward with the cutter design, but I can't animate very well in freecad ๐Ÿ˜› #cad message

sharp valve
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Due to the convenience and reliability of just straight up printing on the v0 without any of the calibration stuff happening each print, I'm thinking of trying to simplify the print start sequence on the merc

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Gotten rid of filament unload and initial gate checks, next thinking about reducing beacon contact since it also often causes issues due to nozzle hygiene sensitivity

sharp valve
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Thought to get the bambu nozzle brushes to see if they're any better than the cut down cooking brush

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Looks like they're stiffer

willow badger
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These the silicone ones? Each โ€œbristleโ€ is a lot shorter and wider

sharp valve
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Yep

sharp valve
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CNC Sherpa mini showed up, looks pretty nice, interesting that fysetc doesn't include their integrated gears on it, it looks like they should be compatible

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will have to try swapping gears

sharp valve
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Done with graduation and settled in at work, not perfect but good enough to get back to tinkering with printers! Got myself the nebula kit, and keeping the v0 busy printing replacement parts for everything

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was thinking of going full metal gantry and full metal hydra while I was at it, but I think I'll save that for later

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merc has been down for the past ~6 months, broke some bits while moving (camera mount etc), plus needing to manually hook up to the RPi to update its network settings, kept putting both off. I'll get all that done during this rebuild

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hopefully cpap will fit fine, though depending on the noise level I might just go back to normal blowers

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also will need to figure something out for the ercf, maybe on top... or switch to one of the many other mmu options now

frail plaza
sharp valve
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Iirc I have a custom muffler on it too

cyan gyro
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Being enclosed also helps

sharp valve
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Ah that's a good point too

jagged ice
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I guess I chose a good day to catch up on build logs. Welcome back, dot.

sharp valve
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Thanks! Nice to see you're still around too!

sharp valve
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Partially assembled, not going all the way as I have plenty left to print and don't want to waste a ton of time or potentially damage the frame before even turning it into a working printer

sharp valve
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Approaching printing the nebula parts themselves by tomorrow, will be time to take apart the old machine soon, hopefully I can still fit the 350mm rails for Y

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Tested how I could clean the rails, don't have a container large enough (and anyway that'd waste a ton of iso), but a neat trick I came up with is to fold up a "container" of the right size with some tin foil

cyan gyro
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I just take the carts off carefully, and soak those

sharp valve
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I think tomorrow I'll finally start disassembly

cyan gyro
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wipe the rail down with paper towels and ipa

sharp valve
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Ah... that's a much better suggestion lol

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Would clean it better too, just immersing the rail and moving the carriage around seems to dislodge a bunch of gunk, but doesn't really clean off the previous grease from within the rail grooves

cyan gyro
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saw someone recently end up in the hospitol with 3rd degree burns on their feet, from soaking rails in a pan... then cooking a filament clog out of a nozzle near said pan

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open tray of ipa is not a safe setup

sharp valve
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Ouch, yeah, I was pretty careful about that, away from any sources of heat and sparks, gloves, windows open etc, and quickly did the tests, cleaned up and diluted the waste iso

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But still risky to do

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Will do it your way for the rails actually meant for the printer

cyan gyro
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I just roll it onto my finger

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there are printed tools to remove them as well

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bascially printed rail sections

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just looser tolerance

sharp valve
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Yeah, I'll probably print those, would also make it easier to put them back on without losing bearings

wild rampart
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how's that triple z working out for you?

sharp valve
frail plaza
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well, itโ€™s nowhere near as polished as the indx, so Iโ€™d say no ๐Ÿ˜…. but the idea is really similar

sharp valve
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Lol I see

sharp valve
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Well, by now I probably won't be finished with printing the parts for the rebuild before the hydra metal stepper plates arrive, so might not even have to worry about replacing the plastic ones later

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Printing the static tension towers rn, then have the metal stepper tower inserts to do, then toolhead and e-bay clips etc, then finally I'll get to the nebula panel stuff

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Once the rebuild is done I might also rebuild the ercf or just replace it with a box turtle or similar, would be much handier spool management wise

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ah... rediscovered one of the many things on my todo list, need to find a way to fit an lrs-100 and lrs-150 in the 255mm e-bay

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I guess it might be a bit easier to make them fit towards the back in the nebula frame

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If I move the wagos to an extrusion mount I should then also have just enough room for a 5v buck to drive LEDs

sharp valve
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Now that I'm no longer at risk of jinxing myself for today, great day of printing, kept churning out parts, need to dry the other filament, and will be out tomorrow, so from Monday I can get to the panel clips and hinges

sharp valve
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Started taking apart the old merc, cleaning rails and moving them over to nebula, hydra metal stepper mounts arrive tomorrow too, so hopefully I can have everything assembled then

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Still haven't gotten around to the panel clips, but hopefully I can at least move the components over and take apart the old frame to make room for the new one

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And anyway I need to also decide on lighting and how to mount the camera, now that there are more stable locations to put it

cyan gyro
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Are you using another printer to print the new parts then?

sharp valve
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Yep, a voron 0.2

cyan gyro
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thats a nice little printer to keep around to support a bigger printer

sharp valve
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Can't handle all the nebula parts, but just needs to handle enough to let the nebula do the rest

sharp valve
cyan gyro
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A bit of a pain to have to do the skirts later, but not terrible

sharp valve
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Yeah, the skirts and the pieces to fill in the gaps in the back between the usual hydra bottom panel and the back of the nebula frame

sharp valve
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The hydra plates didn't show up yesterday, now it says today, so yesterday I just took my time cleaning up the top rails, and assembling it onto the new frame

sharp valve
# cyan gyro I just take the carts off carefully, and soak those

This turned out to be great advice, did a much better job for cleaning out the gunk from under the carriage, the X rail was so gunked up it took multiple soaks to clean it, had printed a rail piece, and that allowed me to easily take the carriages off and put them back on without struggling to keep the bearings in (sliding the carriage onto the printed piece, then off the printed piece and vice versa)

cyan gyro
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That's great

sharp valve
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Printer is almost assembled, was just getting to wiring everything up, but now I have yet another hurdle in the form of a fever

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Was told not to work on the printer until it goes down lol

sharp valve
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Assembled everything besides the panels, need to get around to doing all the wiring

sharp valve
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Will have to recrimp one of the stepper wires, so I'll get back to it maybe tomorrow

cyan gyro
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That picture makes it look small

sharp valve
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Haha yeah, took it close up with a wide angle lens

sharp valve
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printing out some customized splice terminal mounts, hopefully I can be done with the wiring (and maybe config updates too) today

sharp valve
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config updates will probably be tough to get done today, but, assuming these psu mounts work fine, I should at least be done with clean-ish wiring tonight

sharp valve
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psus mounted, just need to do all the wiring, but actually I'll hold off till after work tomorrow for that

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There's a second row of 5 terminal connectors underneath the ones next to the rear stepper, should make for a nice little hub for both grounds, routing AC to the PSUs and SSR and distributing 24v to the board and buck

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The metal hydra stepper plates are very nice, spares being cheap to add to the order was handy for peace of mind since I hadn't thought to require the dragchain mounting holes to be tapped (if that's even an option on SCS) and had to do that myself

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Iirc it was actually slightly cheaper overall to get some spares due to the free shipping threshold

cyan gyro
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yeah 2 sets is about the same price as 1 set, partially due to the min order of $35

sharp valve
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It lives! I think

sharp valve
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Ok yep, it's alive!

jagged ice
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those metal stepper mounts look great

sharp valve
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Yep!

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Well, homing X and Y sensorless worked right away

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hmm homing z via beacon works, and z tilt moves starts off fine but then almost drags the toolhead across the bed

cyan gyro
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Post your config

sharp valve
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Took a break, will do soright as I get back to it. I think it's probably a matter of recalibrating the beacon

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Since it seems to trigger early sometimes, and it has been 6 months since it was last used

sharp valve
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ah, problem solved, since I switched to sensorless homing on X, the homing position changed just enough that the right corner probe position wasn't properly over the bed, causing the sensor to mistrigger

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nvm

sharp valve
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pretty dumb mistake, not sure how it didn't cause trouble before

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the order of the points did not match the order of the steppers

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oh, of course it didn't cause trouble before, I must've swapped the front z steppers when rewiring

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ok yeah, bed leveled now

sharp valve
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Just a matter of pid tuning and disabling the mmu and I ought to be ready for a print

sharp valve
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Ah right, also gotta recalibrate the extruder's steps since I changed it, first print will have to come tomorrow

sharp valve
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Also ordered some cryogrip plates, would be nice to use less power for pla/petg, given that I mostly use those for casual throwaway stuff

sharp valve
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First print coming along nicely

sharp valve
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now on to printing the panel clips

sharp valve
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Whew, managed to find my neoprene sheet, hadn't expected to need it for the panels

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Trying to print 15 hollow panel clips at once, filling up the entire v0 bed, so far it's managing...

sharp valve
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Ugh I guess I'll have to wait for the tape after all, cutting strips of this isn't really working too well

sharp valve
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Then on to some of the door parts, I'll be holding off on the handle so I can make it multicolor

jagged ice
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not sure if that's the issue here

sharp valve
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(On the v0)

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The ones on the edges, especially the ones near the door, didn't adhere as nicely and then warped

sharp valve
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Installed most of the panels, but may have broken two of the feet tilting the printer back upright...

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Workable for now as they haven't outright broken off, but will have to replace them when installing the skirt and bottom panel

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Probably happened because of the lack of a skirt and bottom panel, so all the weight was on the legs along the layer lines

sharp valve
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Assembled

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Now trying to decide how to handle the ercf, for starters I need to update the cutter design, but, idk if I want to bother calibrating the ercf again or just take it off and convert to a tradrack or some other mmu

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I'm kind of surprised that among all the new mmu designs, there doesn't seem to be a "mostly from ercf BOM but simpler/more reliable" design

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The low rider might almost fit the bill

sharp valve
# sharp valve Assembled

The only thing I feel could be added to the build are handles to lift the machine with (unless they already exist and I just missed them), gets kind of tricky to move it once the panels are on

sharp valve
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gonna try switching to the triple decky blocks for my ercf, looks like they still get updates and retain sturdybunny support

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won't take too much time to print, though assembly will involve wiring up a microswitch to each gate...

sharp valve
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Well, even though I had most parts printed, I didn't have time to clean them up and start assembly all week, got to it today, only to realize I missed a part to print, sorted that out, now tomorrow I need to clean up those parts (mostly just drilling open the filament path to be smooth) and then hopefully on to assembly

sharp valve
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Finished assembling one of the triple decky gates, a lot of work with small pieces, but everything fits together smoothly and appears to work well

sharp valve
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Alright, mostly finished with assembly, all that's left is to crimp the gate sensor wires and then on to calibration

sharp valve
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Aaand wired up, calibration in the morning

sharp valve
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this is much better thus far

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all the gates are working smoothly so far

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The pregate sensors are really handy, the selector arm automatically moves over and pulls the filament into parking position

sharp valve
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UGGGH the cutter arm snapped again

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giving up for now, will get back to this in a week maybe

cyan gyro
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What's the cutter look like

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The arm I mean

sharp valve
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it's too thin

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I'm going to make it wider, realized how I might be able to make it still look decent

cyan gyro
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Pivot point doesn't look great either, that's a lot of angle at the retracted position

sharp valve
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do you mean for the blade?

cyan gyro
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I would think it would work better if the arm was more parallel , so moving the base pivot out further

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but I also havent used a filament cutter

sharp valve
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Hmm, might be doable (in terms of space in the toolhead), though also I think I'll try to make it so the blade's channel curves with the blade's movement

sharp valve
# sharp valve do you mean for the blade?

And sorry this wasn't all that clear of a question lol, I had meant to ask if you meant the blade's pivot, though I understand now you mean the arm's pivot against the base

sharp valve
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Looks like the only other designs I can find which don't try to make the blade move parallel are the ones I know are also prone to breaking

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Well, apparently not the picommu/lhstinger cuttee, but its handle is wider at even its narrowest point

cyan gyro
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So most are parallel?

sharp valve
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They all seem to do something like this, where the arm is oriented in a way that prevents the blade from moving at an angle

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It's nice and low profile and makes sure the blade moves straight

cyan gyro
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Yeah that seems more reliable, just a little more complex

sharp valve
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Yep

sharp valve
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noting my toolhead dimensions for mmu with cnc sherpa mini and rapido 2 cht uhf based on the measurements on their websites and eva34m1 stls: ```Hotend Entry to Nozzle tip = 62.5 (UHF extender = 8.5mm)
Extruder mount = 9mm
Blade + sensor = 9mm
Front mount = 5.2mm
Hotend mount = 12.3mm
Extruder gears to exit = 13.5mm
Extruder entry to gears = 19.1

toolhead_entry_to_extruder: 19.1mm
toolhead_residual_filament: 8.5mm + 7.5mm = 16
toolhead_extruder_to_nozzle: 13.5 + 9 + 9 + 5.2 + 12.3 + 62.5 - 2 = 109.5
toolhead_sensor_to_nozzle: 6 + 5.2 + 12.3 + 62.5 - 2 = 84
variable_blade_pos: 1 + 5.2 + 12.3 + 62.5 - 2 = 79
variable_retract_length: ~20

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actually pretty much what I roughly measured holding a ruler next to the toolhead

sharp valve
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Ugh, I thought I had cleared the jam after taking off the nozzle and having a needle go through the heatbreak fine, but apparently not

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I guess tomorrow I'll have to take the hotened off and actually get whatever is stuck out

sharp valve
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I think the issue was not having enough of a pushback and/or the ptfe between the cutter and hotend being 3mm ID, so, the tip cooled and expanded too much to go into the rapido heatbreak and it would've jammed regardless of pushback value

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Going to replace it with 2mm ID

sharp valve
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Ok yeah I think I'm just completely done with the ERCF, will replace it with something else

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I can't sort out the filament cutter and other settings if I'm also endlessly fighting this damn thing

sharp valve
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Maybe a picommu, though it'd mean also giving up most of the bits of the ercf that do work reliably

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Tradrack could work too, but then I'd have to wait for a kit

sharp valve
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~$35 in additional parts to build a picommu, so, going for that

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I have one 996r servo I might be able to use, else I'll have to mod the servo holder for the sh255 from the ercf

sharp valve
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Got the merc up and running to print the picommu parts, it's so mesmerizing to see it go...

wild rampart
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let us know how it goes! i'm super interested in the picommu but maurice is not reliable enough to start considering an mmu system

sharp valve
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Well...

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Luckily I have a spare...

sharp valve
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Maybe the problem was that the old compensation factor for performing contact calibration at lower temp wasn't accurate anymore somehow

sharp valve
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ok yeah, that fixed the first layer being too thin issue, and it turned out that I hadn't imported the petg profile from my other machine, so the flow rate wasn't actually calibrated as I thought it was, sorting that out resolved the surface messiness issue

sharp valve
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Going to have to tweak the camshaft slightly, the dowel pins I got are out of spec, 5.1mm instead of 5mm, I already sanded one for the bearings before noticing...

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Only thought to measure when even heating it up didn't help much for sliding the pin into the pla shaft

sharp valve
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The shaft was the only challenge, rest was a joy to assemble, simple, intuitive and easily fitting together

sharp valve
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May have to drill and clean out the filament paths though, and I think besides gears I should have just enough for a second unit to mod/mess with

sharp valve
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Fully assembled, now just gotta find the energy to calibrate the servo angles

sharp valve
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Well I was able to crimp the mg996 I had laying around and confirm that it wasn't broken, and with the hub wired up, the initial build is done, tomorrow I'll update the happyhare config and at least get through calibrations

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Ah, didn't do the camshaft pressure tabs right, and should stick ptfe tube on the screw the belt is touching

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Simple to fix

sharp valve
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Selector camshaft calibrated, was a little tricky since the happyhare documentation for this mmu is kinda sparse

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So far going well, having some trouble loading filament into the gates though, it slips out easily when trying to load it

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The sensors are all working, but I feel like I want to stick an encoder in between anyway

sharp valve
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Added in the picommu's cnc sherpa entry sensor, it's a pretty cool design, replaces the kinda awful metal ecas, clamps onto the front and guides the filament straight down the middle, avoiding catching on the edges

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last steps should be to calibrate the gear stepper

sharp valve
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Added in a belay and had to reprint the pico's filament hub with a smaller layer height to get it to allow filament through smoothly

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Also noticed that the extruder entry sensor path was a tad tight, so currently having the extruder pull a bit of gf filament in and out

sharp valve
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Well, putting the mmu through its paces, I'm finding that the servo isn't really working reliably, ever once in a while it seems to struggle, maybe even the mmb can't handle the mg996's current draw or my servo is damaged as I had previously expected

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Just went and ordered one that matches the BOM, will be here by the time I'm back from my work trip in a week

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I really want to get this working by then, really need to get to designing and printing a time sensitive thing

sharp valve
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back from work trip, new servos are in and mount printed and assembled, calibration time

sharp valve
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I think I may be able to get down to a ~600mm filament path by modifying the nebula corner piece to integrate a hub+sensor, maybe I can manage to fit a belay in there too

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That'll let me use the sternwheeler buffer

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But, for now, I've got it down to ~1000mm, and can get by temporarily without buffering or rewinding

sharp valve
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Well, this almost works, some annoying quirks to sort out, the press fit ptfe into the hub pops out easily rather than allowing the pico to push through the slight resistance of the extruder sensor, and filament cutter settings

sharp valve
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Printing out a hub that takes some pc4 fittings, but it doesn't have a filament sensor, so trying to decide on that, it might be best if I can find a mod for the ercf v2 encoder as a standalone motion sensor, then I can remove the belay and still have both extruder syncing and filament sensing

sharp valve
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that's a lot better, pico is able to push and pull filament properly now without any tubes popping out

sharp valve
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Hmmm still catches at some points

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Going to try a different design and maybe print it out of asa in case it's something weird with this cheap petg

sharp valve
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this one is designed in a way that avoids having any place to catch

sharp valve
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Had to tweak print settings and reprint a few times, outer walls came out a little weird, but, this one seems to work

sharp valve
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Got it installed, and it seems to be working well over a dozen or so different gate checks (so pulling the filament through the hub to the gate sensor, then back out such that the hub is empty and able to pass another

sharp valve
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Been working through the pico setup stuff still

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Had a seemingly working config, but I was having trouble with some filament that seemed like underextrusion due to the filament path resistance

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Just mounting the mmu instead of leaving it sitting on the top didn't help, then figured I'd switch to the ercf encoder instead of a gate switch and belay, but it adds too much resistance and the pico isn't able to push filament through it

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Then figured I'd play around with filament sensor options for a smoother one, but none really worked too well

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(Not many to choose from in the first place)

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Then finally decided to just try to get the original hub design to print right, keeping a close eye on it as it prints to see what I might need to tweak

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Took 2-3 iterations, but at the moment the og hub seems to be sufficiently smooth

wild rampart
sharp valve
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I guess I could build a second one in a day

wild rampart
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i guess i meant having it work properly? you've been at this for a couple months now right?

sharp valve
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Most of my time getting it setup has been spent on figuring out which hub would work (still ongoing)

sharp valve
wild rampart
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hmm ok

sharp valve
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Getting everything tuned so it's working flawlessly might take a week on top

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Though it probably also depends on your specific config, e.g. it'd probably take less time on a v0 because of the very short filament path, while the merc's longer path makes it a lot less forgiving

sharp valve
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Well, I gave in, cnc toolhead ordered ๐Ÿ˜…

wild rampart
sharp valve
sharp valve
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Damn, they sent the package via plane and a week later it's already here ๐Ÿ˜ฎ hadn't even gotten to printing the necessary parts yet

sharp valve
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Almost done, printing out a 3010 to 2510 fan adapter, and I should be ready to take apart my existing toolhead, I think the push block I already have should work for the cutter

sharp valve
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eh nvm, no need to rush through assembling it today when I won't even have time to set it up after, just going to order the 2510 fan and print that magnetic puller

sharp valve
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Finished assembly

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Going to clean up the wiring after a shower

sharp valve
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Maybe because of the fan shroud jank and not having put in spacers for the cooling duct yet

cyan gyro
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is the wiring cleaned up yet?

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loose wires can show, as can any umbilical, bowden tube, and cpap tube issues

sharp valve
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I'll check that too, but yes, I did clean up the wiring, pulled it through the umbilical guide and ziptied the excess

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But, come to think of it, I didn't cut the ties yet

sharp valve
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had the idea to look at the results from the toolhead board's accel instead of beacon's and see what changes

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left is toolhead, right is beacon

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so, there are some peaks that are in common, which I think indicates that those are the 'true' peaks rather than down to mounting issues with the sensors

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the toolhead board experiences additional vibrations on the X axis, while beacon does that on Y, I think this indicates loosness in the horn mounting, either due to lacking spacers on the part cooling horns or not having tightened the beacon screws sufficiently

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the Y frequency still seems pretty low though, so maybe I need to tighten the belts a bit more

sharp valve
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Tightening the belts helped, but still room for improvement

sharp valve
sharp valve
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the screws in the back of the toolhead which hold the horns, beacon and toolhead board had come loose

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put them in again with loctite this time

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X remains similar, but cleaner

sharp valve
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Well, I think I'm switching the toolhead board back to an ebb36, I'm not really using the stallguard feature on the thr36, and the screw terminals on it are very annoying

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Just need to figure out if I want to do the usb mod for it

sharp valve
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back to normal from the blob of death, tried printing out a bunch of led strip holders, but being a tall narrow vase mode print, only one came out clean enough to use

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designed a corner camera mount too

sharp valve
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Corner mount fits nicely and at least looks like it's pointing at the bed, probably going to have to use the wide angle lens on it

sharp valve
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haven't done the wiring for the LEDs yet

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probably would be nice to tilt down a little more, though, then I'll need a low profile hdmi cable

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also thinking of sticking an esp32-cam at the bed level

sharp valve
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Lights are in too

sharp valve
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working nicely, besides having tried to setup obico to use the 3090 in my server to do failure detection, only to have it be redlining the rpi when not in use