Ender 5 Plus - Mercury 1 (Classic) with Stealth Burner and New Enclosure Project

[shell wolf]

yes, surpass your frail human form and ascend

[twilit edge]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-zed-robot-good-point-david-zed-gif-16210006

[mild hinge]

@naive swan you have the beacon installed ?

[naive swan]

Yes I do

[mild hinge]

@naive swan I have it installed but klipper is giving me a error about control pin in bltouch section for which i deleted

[naive swan]

My config is in my GitHub

Did you follow the guide?

[mild hinge]

yes

@naive swan https://docs.beacon3d.com/quickstart/

[naive swan]

Ok check my GitHub for my config under usermods section

https://github.com/Vprince099/ZANDVE/blob/main/User_Mods/Vengeful/Config_Examples/printer.cfg

You can copy my beacon section

No bl touch or probe section

[mild hinge]

correct

@naive swan noticed that the PI 4 not seeing the USB ID

[naive swan]

Oh that’s a problem

[mild hinge]

@naive swan for the beacon

[naive swan]

Might not have enough power

[mild hinge]

pi 4

[naive swan]

Like 5v power coming from the pi

[mild hinge]

yes

to external outlet

[naive swan]

Yeah

But these pi’s are noctorius for not having enough power on the USB rail

How many other things are connected?

[mild hinge]

just printer and beacon

Sweet now klipper wont start

[mild hinge]

@naive swan No klipper is telling me Now Beacon Model loaded ?

[naive swan]

Yeah copy mine

Or create your own

[mild hinge]

I did

[naive swan]

There is a load command right?

Looks like you need to follow the quick start guide

Not sure what part is missing or broken

[mild hinge]

will go back to the start guide ..x/y are fine its the Z ( dual )

no go

[mild hinge]

@naive swan Got the beacon going a bit warm 70c give or take while running

[naive swan]

yeah its its biggest weakness

[mild hinge]

I like it though hope full it doesn't fail to quickly

[naive swan]

it should be fine

[mild hinge]

boy benchies are looking so bad on the front

[naive swan]

It’s alive again

[naive swan]

My overhangs look great in the front but rear is crap

If I turn the benchy the bow looks like crap

[mild hinge]

looks like seaweed

3rd benchy same way

crap

[mild hinge]

Guess my slicer profile is bad for over hangs

lets see if I can get a voron cube to print

done wasting filament on benchies

[naive swan]

Might need some more fan power

[mild hinge]

turned fan up to 50%

[naive swan]

Oh that’s baseline if you are enclosed

I run 60% on big parts and 80% on small stuff

[twilit edge]

how well does that work with larger beds?

[deep vine]

he has hydra installed so it should fit, unlike the original E5+ Z system where the lead screws are in the way

[mild hinge]

Side fan ?

Anybody have a led light holder for ender 5 plus mine are 220mm by 15mm wide

[naive swan]

I May be able to install today but test fit shows it will clear and lines up well @twilit edge

[twilit edge]

nice! I'm mostly just wondering how well it works for large beds. I've only seen it used for small form factors.

[naive swan]

It’s more like bed fans

[twilit edge]

how much air reaches the center of the bed, I guess

[naive swan]

Well a lot

It moves a lot of air

[mild hinge]

those fans ..yep

[naive swan]

It’s good for pla and or circulation

I am hoping my overhangs clean up with this

On ABS

[naive swan]

Like daylight on a stick?

[mild hinge]

@naive swan https://www.th3dstudio.com/product/ezneo220-rgb-printer-lighting-strip/

[naive swan]

Just use the mounts for the daylight on a stick

[mild hinge]

found some that should work

[dawn vapor]

@naive swan does the new cad for the skirts have the keeper tabs for the top hydra cover?

[naive swan]

Keeper tabs?

@dawn vapor what are we talking about?

[dawn vapor]

Um sorry im scatter brained. Its like the tabs that hold the side panels? But they hold the. Above

Above 👆🏽

Im hating macros atm

Trying to get a print start macro with all the crap im tossing at the printer

KAMP, SFS and heat soak configs.

[naive swan]

oh the cable management/ panel support

@dawn vapor https://github.com/VoronDesign/Voron-Trident/blob/main/STLs/ElectronicsBay/deck_support_4mm_optional_x6.stl

@dawn vapor https://github.com/VoronDesign/Voron-Trident/blob/main/STLs/ElectronicsBay/deck_support_3mm_optional_x6.stl

Since that is acrylic, i would go with the 3mm option

[deep vine]

@naive swan im now going through what you went through with under extrusion, i bought POLISH3D Gear because they had good reviews but they have point where they go slack and loose

did you end up buying the BMG set?

[naive swan]

i actually buaght the polis3d to solve the issue for me

[deep vine]

ohh really

i had to reduce the anti squish thingy

the new fans are looking good by the way

[deep vine]

when are you starting the type V?

[twilit edge]

Out of curiosity, what are the parts outside the stepper Hydra mounts for?

[dawn vapor]

@deep vine i was looking at these US $21.04 15％ Off | Newest Mellow Hardened steel Dual Helical Drive Gear Double Drivegear Kit For Libra mini Extruder
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mPvv5k8

[dawn vapor]

It uses the trident standoffs for the deck panel so i think its to clamp the deck panel?

[naive swan]

Im behind schedule, technically its done but i am not seeing good reason for creating trident z

[deep vine]

Oh why is that, surly it offers benefits over the original z system

[deep vine]

So you thinking of second hydra?

[deep vine]

Hmmm 🧐

[naive swan]

better than the original but leagues below Hydra

and yes Type V will move to Hydra

[deep vine]

so i take it you have noticed better first layer quality?

and reliability

[naive swan]

Honestly it is just easier to implement for the E5

since the bed sits forward the geometry on the trident changes

it can be done but it would be a downgrade over hydra

[deep vine]

yeah i see what you mean, there also isnt any room at the front or back of the bed to install things like purge bucket because of lack of travel, are you still using z endstop?

[deep vine]

Also going to trying and redesigning these for the ZANDVE

https://github.com/falcon14141/Voron_Mods/tree/master/Secure Magnet 270° door hinges

Because I print a fair amount of things in pla, and to much heat means melty melt

[naive swan]

there is space but its a tight squeeze. I am on beacon so i am on a virtual z endstop

[deep vine]

can you send a picture of how much over the back of your bed your nozzle can go

[naive swan]

for me zero

i have a can fan

[vocal terrace]

ur belt tension is bad

also returned just for my mod

[deep vine]

back with the ratios??? 😄

[deep vine]

my belt tension is good i just did it yesterday with the sound spectrum analysis app

[naive swan]

lol

how was the 2 week hiatus

[vocal terrace]

im only here for wobbleX hydra

i'll go here

[vocal terrace]

u can tell isn't prob cause the fact that the thing moves in x when u move y way

unless u pushed to side

klipper has a thing to test with accelerometer

[deep vine]

no it went to the side a little because i pushed it that way

[vocal terrace]

oh lol

[deep vine]

do you mean the resonance tester

[vocal terrace]

yes

for belt resonance

[deep vine]

shaper_calibrate?

[vocal terrace]

aka the tensioning

no

TEST_RESONANCES AXIS=1,1 OUTPUT=raw_data
TEST_RESONANCES AXIS=1,-1 OUTPUT=raw_data

[deep vine]

oh i didnt realise there is a seperate thing for this

[vocal terrace]

~/klipper/scripts/graph_accelerometer.py -c /tmp/raw_data_axis*.csv -o /tmp/resonances.png

[deep vine]

will this pull a graph for the results?

[vocal terrace]

yes

[deep vine]

so i can test both axis then at the end it will show both results on one graph?

[vocal terrace]

yes.

this check urs XY belt tension

[deep vine]

honestly who ever build klipper is genius

[vocal terrace]

pretty suyre multiple people make stuff for it

alot of stuff happens cause someone wants it so makes it work.

[deep vine]

i wish i could code like these peop;e

[deep vine]

yes, and its so cool they let us use it for free

[vocal terrace]

it wouldn't have these features without other people.

[deep vine]

like all of the industry softwares cost a metric F tonne

yeah the 3D printing comunity is so cool i think

lots of brainy and interesting people with the same interests

[mild hinge]

I like the beacon very fast. I learn alot from all the good ppl here

[vocal terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/bacon-is-good-food-heart-gif-12435400

[deep vine]

testing now

[dawn vapor]

@naive swan when your designing built in supports. How much gap are you leaving in them?

[naive swan]

0.2mm

[polar wasp]

Hey @naive swan I can’t seem to find this file could you help point me in the right direction please sir.

[naive swan]

It should be under panels/gantry

@polar wasp https://github.com/Vprince099/ZANDVE/blob/main/Type-Z/STLs/Panels/Gantry/Right/R_Plate_11mm_Logo.stl

[polar wasp]

Thank you, that might be the one place I hadn’t looked lol.

[deep vine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD283qMNyLg

also

@naive swan

check

https://e3d-online.com/products/revo-high-flow-nozzles?aff=16

they just released today

flow rate looks better

almost double the flow rate

[naive swan]

im interested

[deep vine]

for a nozzle its abit pricey

like 50 dollars for a nozzle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5QfoLeCqyY

watch this

[vocal terrace]

Price is ridic

Ridiculous

[deep vine]

Worth extra performance tho…

[naive swan]

Meh

Better than slice

[dawn vapor]

Did you get the atp5 bed or mic6 @naive swan

[naive swan]

I only have the mic6

But it leaves you the option to use stock z

But I hear atp5 has that as well

[vocal terrace]

look at fysetc bed

[dawn vapor]

Yeah fabreko just got them back in stock. Says it also has stock patern

[naive swan]

Mic6 is a little thicker

[vocal terrace]

see what the systec at

[naive swan]

I tried to get an atp5 before

I say whatever is available

[vocal terrace]

Roborock

[deep vine]

I just ordered a https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005005510067121.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.0.0.133979ebCk1IXk&gps-id=pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller&scm=1007.13339.291025.0&scm_id=1007.13339.291025.0&scm-url=1007.13339.291025.0&pvid=d9c6481e-ed29-4edc-9726-d8d271720478&_t=gps-id%3ApcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller%2Cscm-url%3A1007.13339.291025.0%2Cpvid%3Ad9c6481e-ed29-4edc-9726-d8d271720478%2Ctpp_buckets%3A668%232846%238111%231996&pdp_npi=3%40dis!GBP!207.77!170.38!!!!!%40211b801a16846086343083428ebb86!12000033591230137!rec!UK!2373006728&gatewayAdapt=glo2deu

Hail Hydra

[naive swan]

Sorry i have been offline for awhile, just getting my office on the 1st floor up to working order. Since I keep on having flare ups

[twilit edge]

Sorry you're not feeling well, dude. 😕 I checked your release log a few days ago. You're slaying it, illness or no.

[naive swan]

Thanks!

[dawn vapor]

Vengeful, whats your bed mesh look like?

[mild hinge]

Uggg both printers down

voron cant see the cantool

broken tower on the Zero G

Any suggestions ?

for the voron

[vocal terrace]

wdym

what does it say?

also do u have visible canbus stufF?

like the light on it

[mild hinge]

yes have blue lights

[vocal terrace]

which board?

[mild hinge]

sb2040

[vocal terrace]

F

and how are u connecting to it?

[mild hinge]

canbus

to octopus

directly

[vocal terrace]

and what wire is H which low?

also u add 120ohm resisot

[mild hinge]

red /yellow is high

yes 120 is on

white to green

l

[vocal terrace]

no like I mean the 2 places

[mild hinge]

not sure what you mean

[vocal terrace]

send octopus photo of wires

[mild hinge]

rj11

sorry

[vocal terrace]

I mean't like do u have high coming from left or rigt

[mild hinge]

right

[vocal terrace]

u tried flipping em?

[mild hinge]

yes

[vocal terrace]

my high for RJ12 is on the Left of port.

[mild hinge]

my high is the top and low is bottom

lsusb can see that canbus

[vocal terrace]

ok what about klipper does it think

is ur can0 up

[mild hinge]

Bus 001 Device 003: ID 1d50:606f OpenMoko, Inc. Geschwister Schneider CAN adapter

klipper says it cant connect

[vocal terrace]

u setup can0?

also whnos guide

[mild hinge]

oh it was working

[vocal terrace]

u checked ur wires didn't break?

[mild hinge]

tried another whole harness outside of the printere

[vocal terrace]

ur board have visible dmg?

[mild hinge]

no

[vocal terrace]

what does the can0 inquiry look like?

python3 ~/CanBoot/scripts/flash_can.py -i can0 -q

sry wrong

wait nvm right for canboot

[vocal terrace]

~/klippy-env/bin/python ~/klipper/scripts/canbus_query.py can0

[mild hinge]

says failed to trasmit

[vocal terrace]

can u get it into dfu with canboot?

[mild hinge]

haven't tried

[vocal terrace]

do then

[mild hinge]

mcu 'mcu': Unable to connect
Once the underlying issue is corrected, use the
"FIRMWARE_RESTART" command to reset the firmware, reload the
config, and restart the host software.
Error configuring printer

[vocal terrace]

honestly voron canbus depot best

[mild hinge]

K Ill mess with it another day

thanks

[vocal terrace]

just aks them

[mild hinge]

Will another day ...have stuff to clean up

[vocal terrace]

@naive swan witch from mercury banger

[dawn vapor]

@naive swan is there a way to pull the size of the panels from the cad file? All i seem to be able to do with my app is get mass lol

I want to see about getting them cut

I did the back panels the other day and i cant cut straight worth a shit

[dawn vapor]

Ive been on a hells paradise kick. That shows sick. Got me reading the manga

[vocal terrace]

I didn't they full into it to read manga lol

I skipped last weeks episode lol maybe will watch tonight

[naive swan]

Upside down taco

[naive swan]

Yeah 3 ways 1-load to dxf or 2-drop a sketch on it and trace the edges and add measurements, 3- do it manually with the measure tool

[vocal terrace]

4. Shit ur pants rn

[dawn vapor]

i got my beeper working...im loving it

@vocal terrace

[vocal terrace]

Fix ur fucking safety hazard

[dawn vapor]

No

[vocal terrace]

Omg is it fucking ghrdwb lagaan

[dawn vapor]

Yes it is

Gurren fucking lagann

[vocal terrace]

I didn't recognize rap is a man's soul for a while

[dawn vapor]

Im still fixing the speed

[vocal terrace]

Honestly it's so much better the version with the orchestra

Lol

[dawn vapor]

It is a bit slow

[vocal terrace]

Orchestra makes it 10x better

If I cared for beeper I'd just not. Then do a speaker setup to violently shake my machine

[dawn vapor]

Id like to figure that out

To play actual mp3’s

[vocal terrace]

Why is ur u2c got a heatsink on it.....

[vocal terrace]

3.5mm audio jack

Just upload .mp3s and it's prob superrr easy

U should be using canbus from octopus lolll

[dawn vapor]

It doest* it has a case which i thought did a good job of keeping my fingers from fucking it and holding the can wire down with zipties

[vocal terrace]

Also if u ever wanna buy a sb2240 any u guys I have 3 hebhehe

[vocal terrace]

U deserve death for this.

[dawn vapor]

Im still slowly printing shit on my ender 3 :/

[vocal terrace]

Those wires are too small

[dawn vapor]

Which ones?

[vocal terrace]

So wtf are ur wagod

[dawn vapor]

Im using right gauge

[vocal terrace]

All of the ones for that molex head

The white isn't meant for that gauge

Also ur u2c is bad connected

[dawn vapor]

Meh its what came with the sb2240

[vocal terrace]

U shouldn't have ur board connected to it.

Usb to octopus

Rpi to u2c to can

[dawn vapor]

I have 1 pi usb to octo and 1 pi usb to u2c. I didnt want to spend cash to get the phone cord crap setup for octo can lines

[vocal terrace]

It's cheaper than u2c

[dawn vapor]

Your saying itll work the same having pi to u2c and then u2c to octo?

[vocal terrace]

No don't do that it's worse just didn't realize cause ur stuff so close

Rat bitch

[dawn vapor]

My wire management is shit atm but itll look actually finished once i have all the shitni neednin it

[vocal terrace]

U can print stuff for that too

Annex has files

[dawn vapor]

Got some

[vocal terrace]

I designed My vzbor frame

[vocal terrace]

The annex ones?

[dawn vapor]

And actual blocks that will get attached to bottom panel

[vocal terrace]

Those don't look like annex 1s they look too weak

[dawn vapor]

Those are just temp fan wites

Wires*

[vocal terrace]

Those wireducts aren't annex right

[dawn vapor]

Annex you say

Please share

[vocal terrace]

Yes...

[dawn vapor]

Theyr from voron hub

[vocal terrace]

https://github.com/Annex-Engineering/Masherbrum-K1/releases

Get from release

10/10 recommend not clicking on the ending song for 86 now me wanna cry

[dawn vapor]

Added to Printing queue

[dawn vapor]

Say less

[naive swan]

Lol i still haven’t figured out the beeper on mine

[dawn vapor]

@naive swan what handles did you use on the type z?

[vocal terrace]

vzb0t

those are good just do em

[dawn vapor]

Beepers pretty easy ill post my config when i get home

Oh yeah those look sweet. @vocal terrace i hd printed some voron ones but my hands barely fit on them lol

[vocal terrace]

it @ people when u reply to msgs lol

[naive swan]

The ones from Voron Mods

[vocal terrace]

my bed is here and looks good

@naive swan remember my og Vz235 bed idea.... it works that what maze did

[mild hinge]

Finally got Utoc working now I just need a crimp tool to recrimp the USB 3do Nozzle camera ...ugg one wire broke

those a re some tiny pins

[vocal terrace]

mx1.25mm?

[mild hinge]

https://github.com/3DO-EU/nozzle-camera

I know they use a 5p 1.0mm pitch

[naive swan]

Ok cool

[naive swan]

Get a pre crimped kit and solder it

[mild hinge]

I have a crimp kit

i also have new pins and connector

[naive swan]

@mild hinge Keszoox Jst SH1.0mm Connector Kit... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09F3TMG52?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

This is the kit I got

Damn jst sh…. The only time I have ever needed a pre crimp kit

[mild hinge]

yea those 3do cam wires pretty dang small

[naive swan]

Absolute pain in the rear

[mild hinge]

yea no reason to be that small

going to have to get a magifier to see them

[naive swan]

It’s a direct jst replacement to micro usb

That’s why

[mild hinge]

ordered

[naive swan]

That pin out would have been a micro usb port…. But that would have been worse

[mild hinge]

yea

[naive swan]

Notice the 5 wires

That micro usb otg

[naive swan]

Old standard from the old days when phones needed a signal to know they needed to power the usb device

Yep I am noping out of crimping that

[mild hinge]

yea

might be worth just buying another cable

I just hate undoing chains to ru nthe cable

[deep vine]

Picssss

[dawn vapor]

@vocal terrace oh

[vocal terrace]

yea u just at me 1 time

2 don't stack

[dawn vapor]

😂

[deep vine]

Which lead screws should I order for hydra, can find the correct ones in stock, I already have motors

[vocal terrace]

Tr8x2 pretty sure

[vocal terrace]

@naive swan

https://9anime.to/watch/oshi-no-ko2.4q1jm/ep-7

Now u can watch ep 1 in english

[twilit edge]

@naive swan This belt system look familiar to you? 250C actively heated chamber. It's basically the Stratasys patent implemented with dual extruders. https://www.3dxtech.com/3d-printer-gearbox/

[naive swan]

@twilit edge that looks really good

[twilit edge]

I'm drooling a bit, ngl

[naive swan]

Also kinda easy to implement

Want to do it?

I can close out zandve in a weekend

Since I am canceling trident

[twilit edge]

You're cancelling trident?

Also, I'd love to do it, but I've got too many other obligations. OmniBox in beta, an article to finish...

[mild hinge]

I like the red gears

[twilit edge]

Damn, you're right. Those do look good.

[naive swan]

Yeah hydra is better trident is not worth working on as an e5 conversion

[twilit edge]

Nice. That's a mountain of work and service issues saved.

[naive swan]

True

I think the bigger problem I was having with it was the e5 pro was going to need another round of modifications if I made a trident version

Whereas hydra could just be implemented using the same parts

[twilit edge]

You're making a lot of sense. Sounds like more effort than it's worth.

[mild hinge]

Might have to look into order some of those red gears

Now if I can get the SB2040 Leds/case leds to synch that would be awesome

1st print on the Voron

see what happens

[vocal terrace]

Want a sb2240 I'll sell u one lmao

Knomi

[mild hinge]

I saw those

I don't need that ..its over kill

Dont need a LED screen on toolhead

[deep vine]

No, I agree with you, it looks like for the extra work it won’t be worth redesigning the system for.

[twilit edge]

I think it's cute and may have uses as a remote display for info on the enclosure. Replace the Mini12864 display completely.

Don't need extra weight on the toolhead, though.

[vocal terrace]

Another witch from mercury banger

[shell wolf]

i have one here, maybe i’ll install it today

[twilit edge]

For toolhead or somewhere else?

[shell wolf]

probably gonna go on the SB

[shell wolf]

Have to wire the sb2240 tho

that’s the reason it’s not on already

[vocal terrace]

Lol

[deep vine]

where can i find the zero g logo

[vocal terrace]

@naive swan what temp can ebb36 go upto?

[naive swan]

76 max

Normal operating temp for me is 65

The v0 is hitting 68c

[deep vine]

@naive swan i want to show you these bracket i redesigned

two seconds

[vocal terrace]

mine went upto 77 lmao

[deep vine]

removable door hinges

[vocal terrace]

holy thats sick

[vocal terrace]

I'll print these lmao

how i do the magnet?

[deep vine]

I used someone else’s design tho

https://github.com/falcon14141/Voron_Mods/tree/master/Secure Magnet 270° door hinges

[deep vine]

Magnets are 6x3 mm

[vocal terrace]

@dawn vapor where ur pillow bearing files?

[deep vine]

Also the doors don’t need to be glued on, they have bolts

[deep vine]

Are the not in the user mods section

[vocal terrace]

ty

and nope lmao

not for z

I want Z

[wraith oxide]

they should be on the github

[wraith oxide]

also these are sick

[wraith oxide]

these are the one you printed?

[deep vine]

No these what I have redesigned to work with the merc 1

[wraith oxide]

if you plan to post them im totally using them

[deep vine]

I havnt fully finished them yet, hopefully I can get them printed of tomorrow in abs to test

Then I’ll give you the files

[naive swan]

@deep vine they look good

[deep vine]

How are you finding your oldhams?

[vocal terrace]

WobbleX files are almost done hehehhee.

Ws8

[deep vine]

okay mabey illl order them then

[vocal terrace]

Did u get return for others?

[deep vine]

nah just printed them for E3

[deep vine]

okay i should have everthing else ordered now to build hydra

[vocal terrace]

Don't print back motor mount lmao if doing ws8

[naive swan]

They seem fine, just make sure they installed properly

[mild hinge]

I have the wobble x on order

I had to fix the zero g 1st

[deep vine]

whats up with it?

[naive swan]

What are you fixing?

[mild hinge]

Broken belt

Just finished up the voron quick snap latches and installed

[polar wasp]

So it seems to be a shim off, is this something I can sand to fit it or am I gonna need to reprint ?

[vocal terrace]

Idk if vengeful designed for middle shims

I dont think so.

[deep vine]

There’s no shins on mine

[polar wasp]

Ohhh ok that makes since, it fits two in there no problem but no room for the third lol.

[polar wasp]

Thanks, I was really dreading reprinting them.

[vocal terrace]

I just printed this again lmao

Also I melted my nevermore lmao

110C a little too toasty

[deep vine]

Yeah just check and only has two outer shims

[deep vine]

What is it??

[vocal terrace]

Xol2

[polar wasp]

yeah seems breaking and reprinting is just a part of it lol

[vocal terrace]

It's for my voron

U could use it too

Or even rapidburner

[deep vine]

How many xol’s???

[vocal terrace]

I swapped extruder lmao

[deep vine]

Lols

[vocal terrace]

Ridga

Going on sherpa mini

I mean e3v2

[deep vine]

Oh with hexvort

[vocal terrace]

Yes I've had it for so long lmao

Vz-hextrudort where it at.

[deep vine]

Yeah I remember when you first got it

[vocal terrace]

Anything but CW2

[deep vine]

Trying to shame my orbiter lol

[vocal terrace]

No tryna shame clock shat 2

[deep vine]

Can’t wait for Galileo 2

[naive swan]

Ah you are using a center shim, that came after the mercury 1. You can lose the center shim or just shave down the part Tom make up the 1mm. I can add the center shim clearance on the hydra release

All it requires is for me to shave .5mm on each side

[wraith oxide]

i believe this enclosure is setup for mercury 1.0 1.13 or 1.14 but 1.15 uses 3 shims instead of 2 shims.

[polar wasp]

Yeah I just took em out. Everything else is fitting fine now. Hopefully I’ll be printing with it by the weekend.

[polar wasp]

Yeah that’s what I’m discovering

[deep vine]

@naive swan i think we should do some sharing on your design to get more people interest and building it

[wraith oxide]

im in proccess. half way through printing.

[polar wasp]

Im I’m the process too, mostly put together

[mild hinge]

I'm printing the omnibox for the zero g right now

I dislike the case for the ender 5 plus

[deep vine]

https://www.printables.com/model/453364-prusa-slicer-mercury-one-plus-size-with-hydra-moun

slicer build plate

[mild hinge]

Very cool

I like the zero G symbol

[deep vine]

@wraith oxide

[wraith oxide]

yes?

[deep vine]

these are the Magdoor hinges, you can just mirror for the other side

[wraith oxide]

oh beautiful thank you.

[deep vine]

also are you doing hydra?

[wraith oxide]

nope sticking stock bed motion system. i have though about doing belted Z but see no reason to with how my Z looks. i have a fabreko bed for it to put on.

[deep vine]

are you printing abs on it?

[deep vine]

this is for stock bed to mounts a nevermore filter

Actually, I just realised

[wraith oxide]

im enclosed with y own design, just like @naive swan a lot more. and i was looking for something like this.

[deep vine]

You can’t flip the latch door pieces, I’ll have to creat the left ones

I need to redo the one for the left side

[wraith oxide]

got you

[wraith oxide]

will be doing this. i wass thinking about just leaving it in the bottom of the enclosure.

[wraith oxide]

love the insert.

[deep vine]

Yeah, he’s done a good job with his design

[wraith oxide]

i have designed an exhaust and also bed blowers for circulating the air in thge chamber. idk if you would be interested. also changed the z endstop so you can remove the blocks to raise the bed but im also running a vzbot print head so it might be different for you.

[deep vine]

Oh yeah, I’m interested in the exhaust

Can you send that over please

[wraith oxide]

check dm

[polar wasp]

Where do I find the other end pieces… or would I be better off just modifying the part.

[naive swan]

What were you thinking? Thingiverse, Reddit, Printables?

Sorry for the silence this weekend, I was deep into the D4 release

[deep vine]

Yeah, it would good to see it posted else where and more people building it.

Also did this

[deep vine]

I definitely think to start with printable and thingeverse because that’s quite easy, you could even just use it as a link to your GitHub. And for redit, I havnt really used that so I don’t know.

[twilit edge]

I have Printables with a token STL and a prominent GitHub link. Works okay.

Try r/Ender5 for a decent-sized forum.

[vocal terrace]

Yea no reprint. What the strat for e5+ get 16mm dealers lmao

[deep vine]

Okay so that sounds like it’ll work well then

[deep vine]

Is this for Reddit?

[twilit edge]

Yep

[deep vine]

What do you mean?

[twilit edge]

There's a sub for the Ender 5 Plus, but it's much smaller. r/3dprinting is too big and kind of a joke. They get excited about dumb stuff and ignore the interesting things (too many people interested in shiny stuff and new to printing).

[vocal terrace]

The ones that go on top of kossel balls

[deep vine]

How comes?

[vocal terrace]

Space to mount top leadscrew.

[deep vine]

Ohh I see

[deep vine]

@wraith oxide

okay so these are the left door holders and the backs of the door mounts

youll need 6x3 magnets and m3x4.5 brass inserts

[dawn vapor]

So with the beep. I 100% dont recommend setting it up for print failures. Im trouble shooting my m600/pause resume macros and its getting really old hearing the mario death tune on print fails lol

[wraith oxide]

loading into Orca slicer and put in the queue

[deep vine]

I havnt re-printed the left ones yet

[mild hinge]

Nice setup

[dawn vapor]

I gotta look when i get home hut thought i made a mod for that part

Also

https://github.com/LTSpenny/MercHydraTZ/blob/master/beep.cfg

If you want your printer to mock you

Install these lol

Rage inducing really

[polar wasp]

Oh that’d be great, I think I could struggle my way through redesigning it but I’m definitely not great at 3D design lol

[dawn vapor]

<- tinkercad survivor

[mild hinge]

Printintg a re-spooler now tired of the bad spools

[polar wasp]

I shamelessly use tinkercad, I know the others can do way more… but they’re no where near as easy lol

[deep vine]

It’s time to move to fusion 360 😉

[deep vine]

I dis agree

I would say fusion360 is really easy

[vocal terrace]

UR ALIVE

[naive swan]

@dawn vapor welcome back

[naive swan]

more intuitive as well

they better not take away hobby licenses though

[dawn vapor]

Ive been depressed hearing the mario fail song

[vocal terrace]

My voron works

[dawn vapor]

It looks fast as hell too!

[vocal terrace]

No it's slow

Vorons poo

[dawn vapor]

It looks like you tried taking a pic of the flash

[dawn vapor]

I just did the middle shim on mine. Havent had issues yet.

[dawn vapor]

Also sorry apparently i deleted my download folder where i had the part im still digging through tinkercad files. If i cant find it by the afternoon ill redo the part for ya.

[polar wasp]

Thanks much appreciated.

[naive swan]

Did you get booted or something?

For your viewpoints on Tap….

[vocal terrace]

Wdym?

[deep vine]

he probably did, for going to ram ranch

[vocal terrace]

I'm in both servers lmao

[deep vine]

😅

[vocal terrace]

Yea think they just muted me

Can't see alot of channels rn

[deep vine]

Handy to know

[dawn vapor]

Been doing too much house/home maintenance is reason ive been mia. Going to be mia next few days have to do a water pump on my car today. Have a bunch of prints waiting to be put together. Ended up going with the atp5 fabreko bed instead of the 410x410 i sourced. If anyone wants that catch me in the dms.

[deep vine]

Omg guys!!!!!

She’s a beauty#

[sour prairie]

The plus size @deep vine ?

[wraith oxide]

what bed plate is that?

[sour prairie]

It's the fysetc bed plate

Carbon on one side

[wraith oxide]

oooo fancy. i did just get a fabreeko one so im good for now but that looks good.

[deep vine]

Yeah it’s the plus size plate, waiting for some other parts to instal then can test everything

[polar wasp]

hey @naive swan could i get pic of where you put your x endstop, i may have to reprint my rear steppers to the right ones for the y to work as well lol.

[naive swan]

@polar wasp

Not the best way to do it but it was quick and dirty

[polar wasp]

Hey it works thats all that matters.

[naive swan]

are you on 220v? I think you are but just make sure you dont hook that up if you are not

[deep vine]

Yeah, technically I’m 230-240v but I think it will be okay

[dawn vapor]

Got a link?

[deep vine]

https://m.de.aliexpress.com/item/1005005510067121.html?gatewayAdapt=gloPc2deuMsite

[stuck summit]

only wanted the metalic thingy… shipping 53 eur… item costs 26eur 😂

[deep vine]

My printer is a mess again lol

[deep vine]

@naive swan have you got any pictures of how you did your electronics bay wiring

[deep vine]

@naive swan you’ve done your electronics in the hydra the everything pointing down, that’s interesting.
I have seen how Dutch has done it first, so I have decided to make somthing like that but the panel will be like a car bonnet

[naive swan]

Yeah I have a bottom lid with hinges, like what is used on the trident

If you want I can come up with something that will add a door on the deck lid

It will require a lot of plastic and will only work with hydra but it can be done

[deep vine]

Would be good if we could design something

[deep vine]

I have a sheet of acrylic I would like to re-use

I would like it to hinge from the back

[deep vine]

So that mean to need to roll your printer over to work on electronics, I’m hoping to find away to not have to move the printer

[naive swan]

Correct, I dont like it either since the printer is massive. With the XL top hat it is almost clocking in at a Meter

[naive swan]

That can be done using regular hinges

[deep vine]

Yep, he’s a big boy, and you know these frames have a poor name for being ridged, I would prefer to get it all set and then leave it

[naive swan]

Yep, it’s going to have plastic plates all around but it can be done, not sure if it should hinge or just be an easy to remove panel though…. Since hinge doors will reduce the opening

[deep vine]

And a gas strut 🙂

[naive swan]

Honestly I have been considering that for the top hat as well

[deep vine]

Yeah I see what you mean,

I guess having a lift out panel would be far easier

[deep vine]

That actually makes perfect sense, why have we not done something like that already

For a gas strut, it would have to be low enough pressure for the weight of the lid

A car boot lid strut would be to strong

[naive swan]

Original designs had it but it seemed to expensive to make it a baseline requirement . So I put it in the parking lot for a future mod

[deep vine]

Which struts did you source?

[naive swan]

Yeah part of the problem was buying a bunch of versions for testing and then returning what didn’t work

I watched a video where someone made one with a syringe but it seemed to Frankenstein for my liking

[deep vine]

Haha

I seen something similar

[naive swan]

There was also a hinge version that used a locking rod that almost made it to final release

[deep vine]

https://youtu.be/-C9e--3nvro

[naive swan]

It was too loose

Lol yeah too much

[deep vine]

Automatic opener

[deep vine]

How lol

We could probably run it from our main boards

I don’t think it’s a bad idea

[naive swan]

I worked with lethal on this last week

Temp controls

[deep vine]

Oooh, is that chamber temps control

I love the idea

[naive swan]

He has an inline filament dryer as well

So he uses one on each side

[deep vine]

Nice

It’s good to use the space in the parts to, because there’s a lot of material and they don’t need to be that strong

[naive swan]

Well the good news is these were not compromised by the cutouts

[deep vine]

Today I was just thinking about installing some contact terminals in these for the daylight on a stick

[naive swan]

Yep same idea here

[deep vine]

Great minds think alike

[naive swan]

But I was just going to use a limit switch

At less than fifty cent it just talks to the control board and the lights can be turned on by klipper

Also a button as well

Using a limit switch

[deep vine]

Would it also need a macro?

[naive swan]

Klipper opens a lot of doors

Possibly

[deep vine]

How would you program this in

[naive swan]

May need some customization but it shouldn’t be hard

If the function is not baseline

Basically when limit is triggered then turn on 24v on pin whatever

This could allow you to trigger it on the machine or in mainsail/fluidd

[deep vine]

yeah, it’s also a good idea

[naive swan]

This also means when certain conditions are met it can be shut off

[deep vine]

Oh and for the temp controller, that’s important

[naive swan]

Might need a mosfet depending on how many sticks you are using

[deep vine]

I only have one stick

[naive swan]

Yeah I don’t think most daylight on stick setups would have a problem since most 24v pins on the board can handle that draw, it’s disco that might have issues and may need to get direct 24v from the psu via a mosfet

Again depends on how many

[naive swan]

Well for those temp controls they are standalone, they are basically a closed loop system

[deep vine]

What psu are you using?

[naive swan]

Rsp-500

[deep vine]

Would be good to have some control

[deep vine]

I was happy to get the mains bed so I’m downsizing to a lrs200

[naive swan]

Agree so to a degree with a higher end board they are almost redundant

[naive swan]

Careful with that since it could limit you

[deep vine]

I have octopus so it has enough ports to do everything

[deep vine]

All my steppers are on 48v psu

Apart from sb2240

[naive swan]

Exactly, basically these were created to drive a inline filament heater and a chamber heater using thermocouples

[deep vine]

Where is the fillament dryer?

[naive swan]

It’s like one of these

https://thordsen3d.com/product/ifd-175r/

They created a custom one that uses a heater block and 2 extruder heatsinks to purge moisture out of the filament

[deep vine]

I’ve never seen one of those before, I wonder if they work well

What temp are they running at

[naive swan]

The one one lethal is making is open source and way cheaper than what Thorsen is selling

100c

On abs and up

It’s a good idea and some videos have been posted on similar concepts that seem promising

[deep vine]

Yeh that’s interesting, I don’t see the need for myself at the moment tho

[naive swan]

Pla would use a way lower temp

Well you say that but moisture is a problem for almost everyone unless you bake your filament before every print

Like nylon would need something like this hands down

[deep vine]

Yeah I agree tbh

[polar wasp]

Could use a cabinet door shock, they have a lot less power.

[twilit edge]

Disco on a Stick uses WS2812B, so it's actually 5V. The Daylight pulls a surprising amount of power.

[naive swan]

Really so it’s other way around, but I guess the problem is that they all need plenty of power to make it across the entire length of the run

[twilit edge]

Exactly. The Disco stick may have more LEDs, but my memory is fuzzy on that.

Adding two daylight matchsticks finally pulled my LRS-350 down. I didn't know I had it overloaded, but they definitely finished it.

[dawn vapor]

You guys really need the beeper to mock you as you fail calibration tests.

[shell wolf]

i do and it does

[naive swan]

I Guess i will need to live with the rsp-500 then

Alright I am finally back from my travels… hopefully I can make some updates this weekend

[twilit edge]

You can get an LRS-600 or LRS-450

Also, welcome back

[naive swan]

It would be nice to get rid of the Fan

[twilit edge]

Ohhh yeah that whiny thing

[naive swan]

Also I need to get the bed fans wired this weekend

[twilit edge]

Wait, you have Hydra. That's a huge amount of wattage freed up.

You could easily do an LRS-350

[deep vine]

Where have you been travelling vengie?

[deep vine]

You can do the noctua 80mm silent fan upgrade for RSP500

[naive swan]

Mexico/Cuba/Puerto Rico/Colombia

[naive swan]

I will look into that, it is loud but not that annoying

[deep vine]

Very adventurous, how did it go

[naive swan]

Good, just needed to use up my vacation time before July so it was worth it, cheaper than I thought too

[deep vine]

😃 more money saved for printers then 😃

[polar wasp]

Is this where the z endstop is intended to be mounted ?

[deep vine]

I think it needs to be rotated 90 degrees

[naive swan]

Yes

Sorry yes rotate

[polar wasp]

Oh ok, I tried that but it didn’t seem to fit. I dropped it down from the top, seems like I should have brought it from the bottom instead

[wraith oxide]

Don't mind the wiring.

[polar wasp]

Thank you, I finally got lol, i kept thinking the other part went through it and it was messing me up.

[ruby lion]

I replaced my stock meanwell fan with a sunon one, so much quieter.

[deep vine]

@naive swan did you earth your bed?

[naive swan]

Oh yes, it’s a must

[deep vine]

Did you just run a separate yellow and green earth wire up

Have you got any pics of your connection

[naive swan]

Yep and a m3 with connector

[deep vine]

In this spare hole?

[naive swan]

Yep

[deep vine]

Is your thermal fuse on the other side?

[naive swan]

Yeah it is

You can go either direction

I saw you put yours on the right

[deep vine]

Yeah, I did

[naive swan]

Either works

[deep vine]

So far I’m really happy with how this is looking

Need my screws to arrive and finish the wiring

[naive swan]

Yep It’s probably one of the more complicated things I have done… hobby wise

[naive swan]

The printer in its entirety

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-day-gif-18564553

[deep vine]

Definitely not the easiest!

[naive swan]

Sometimes I felt like Charlie

[deep vine]

Yes honestly, it’s been at times such a headache

[naive swan]

So many videos, pdfs from Voron, discord, Reddit, GitHub’s, voice chats

Very rewarding

[deep vine]

I’m still thinking about designing the AWD system for this, since I seen how the V0 tensioner their motor

[naive swan]

Almost addictive

[deep vine]

Yes I agree

[naive swan]

It’s very doable

[deep vine]

I want to get my printer sort first before I start or this project

[naive swan]

Yep I recommend 1 project at a time for sure

[twilit edge]

Blasphemy! I might complete something that way!

[naive swan]

Lol yeah, I am very tempted to start an in-line filament dryer right now

And switchwire

[twilit edge]

I've got a slightly different project on my mind, but same issue. Very tempted.

[naive swan]

And cpap cooling

[twilit edge]

Ooh CPAP

[naive swan]

Too many parts ready to go

[deep vine]

Switch wire from your E3

[deep vine]

I need to extend the wago mount again lol

….

A sextuple

[deep vine]

@naive swan what is your hydra config for bed probe?

the points

[naive swan]

Hmm

[naive swan]

I can pull it later tonight

I think I need to load my config again

[deep vine]

yeah i noticed thata your config on git is your old version

[dawn vapor]

Raise your hand if your config os huge and bloated!

[dawn vapor]

@deep vine i like what you did with the filament into case with that swivel

[deep vine]

Hey, thanks, I found this in the Voron mods page 🙂

[dawn vapor]

Happy 4th for all freedom peeps in here.

[wraith oxide]

i was curious how everyone figured out where all the hardware went.

[naive swan]

Using the CAD for the most part

In some cases folks reach out to me when it’s not super clear

[wraith oxide]

I'll try my best and if I can't figure it out I'll ask

[wraith oxide]

when i measure parts to figure out fastener lengths is it bottom of heatset hole to underside of fastener location?

[wraith oxide]

i havent been able to find it but what steppers are you running with the max power towers? i plan to build your enclosure in the next 2 weeks and have everything setup but would like to do the stronger rear steppers but cant find what steppers to get.

[covert rock]

do you have the CAD for the XL tophat? Looking for a different one than I already have.

[naive swan]

Yeah it’s on the GitHub, the file has both versions in it

[naive swan]

https://github.com/Vprince099/ZANDVE

[wraith oxide]

Just have to finish up my doors. Came out great with my own twist with features. Using the xl tophat.

[naive swan]

@dawn vapor here you go

[sick crest]

@naive swan Is it possible to use different screens with your skirts? I found the STL files for the mini12864 but no other options. I have a BTT HDMI5 screen that I would like to use.

[naive swan]

Look for trident screen alternatives they should be close if not direct replacements

Try these https://mods.vorondesign.com/?search=Screen

This one should be a straight replacement https://mods.vorondesign.com/details/mn2APihm7NkJZhoskam1CQ

[sick crest]

Awesome! Thank you!

[sick crest]

For the Hydra motion system, am I able to use the ZeroG parts or are there different prints to make everything fit with the enclosure?

[naive swan]

There are some parts that need to omitted, basically the rear backpack needs to go. And the rear panel is just a solid coroplast panel vs having a door.

[sick crest]

Looking at the CAD file, it looks like the towers and tensioners are a little different too. Will I be able to reuse the same belt?

[naive swan]

This is mercury 1 classic, so all the xy parts are exclusive to this design, it works with hydra

[sick crest]

Not sure if I understand what "classic" refers to.😕

[sick crest]

Does classic mean the original release before 1.1, 1.1.5, etc.?

I am just starting my build, so all my printed parts for both the mercury 1 and hydra are the most recent as of a month ago.

[naive swan]

None of the stuff you see on the mercury parts list applies to this build

The hydra parts are drop in

This issue happened awhile back, you have to pull the parts from the zandve GitHub if you want to ensure fitment

[sick crest]

I see. So to do the full enclosure, I'd need to redo the whole XY setup. Assuming I was to do that, is there a functional difference between your XY and the 1.1.5, or is it just cosmetic?

[naive swan]

Oh for sure, for you this would be a complete redo

The xy motion is integrated to the enclosure

So from that point of view, anyone with an existing merc1 (any version) would need to reprint everything

[sick crest]

It looks like the most complete solution I have seen to date. So as long as I do not lose anything (other than some time, the odd part, and a little filament), I may just give it go somwhere down the line.

[naive swan]

Aside from an expanded BOM your existing hardware carries over

[wraith oxide]

this is a great enclosure the tension towers need to be replaced since they are integrated into the enclosure. the rear towers are the legacy Zero G ones but basically the same belt path as the regular ones. look at the pillow ball mount also. have been running this enclosure for over a year now and its awesome. i have been tempted to convert the newer stepper towers but just havent yet.

[sick crest]

It looks like a great option. I wish I had stumbled across it earlier. Right now I am too far into my M1 conversion to change now, but I definitely see myself going back and reprinting the parts and rebuilding the motion system to accommodate this enclosure. I have looked at a few options, and all of them are going to require at least as much work, and not all of them have the same appealing final product.

[sick crest]

Which are the "newer stepper towers"?

[wraith oxide]

the 1.15 i think i dont remember. the new style that the zero g uses

[elder swallow]

question, i just printed the rear stepper towers from the ZANDVE github and am printing the tension towers next, but i have left the x joints as the merc ones. is it worth switching those to the ZANDVE as well? I'm not sure if the merc ones will fit inside the enclosure

[naive swan]

I am not sure if the belt path is exactly the same but it could work

[elder swallow]

Alright I’ll give it a go and see if I have any issues

[sick crest]

Please post your results. I am in a similar situation if I go this route and would like to know if I will be able to keep my x-ganrty intact.

[elder swallow]

It prints fine and when I compared the parts in a slicer, they’re the same size so the Mercury x gantry should fit in the zandve enclosure

[wraith oxide]

i run the regular x jouints

[wraith oxide]

keep your x gantry shouldnt require changes. i didnt have to.

[sick crest]

@elder swallow @wraith oxide Awesome! So it was just the stepper and tension towers that needed to be redone? Were there any parts needed to facilitate the swap, or were you able to reuse the same hardware (pulleys, idlers, etc.)?

[elder swallow]

Screw are different for the stepper towers and I haven’t swapped the tension towers yet but I know there’s new screws you need there too. I just bought anything from the ZANDVE BOM that I didn’t have already but stuff like pulleys and idlers and rods should be the same

Just screws are different and for the top hat you will need more extrusions

[sick crest]

Thank you!

[wraith oxide]

i believe there are some to add obviously for attaching the towers but i believe you can resuse some. i did a big order from mcmaster carr for the hardware for the enclosure. bearings and pulleys work. also look in the mods there are some nice things to add also. lmk if you need anything. i also have more mods for the enclosure if you are interested, lmk what you may be looking for.

[sick crest]

I would love to see what you have for the enclosure. I have browsed the user mods on github.com, and plan to do several of those already.😆

[elder swallow]

I’d also like to see the mods you have

[wraith oxide]

lmk what you are looking for

[elder swallow]

Any general modifications that give any convenient improvements, or are ur mods more specific like component related? I’m not looking for anything but sometimes I come across something I wish I had seen before so I’m hoping u may have something like that if it makes sense

[elder swallow]

My belts don’t seem long enough when I tried to install the new tension tower block. Are there any mods that help with this or do I just need to buy a new longer belt…

[wraith oxide]

the older style towers add a little belt length so thats why they seem short. since the bearings are on the back vs the sidde.

[elder swallow]

That makes sense. Are there other towers that work with the enclosure? I’m upgrading my xol toolhead to the new one which I think will give me some extra belt length but if I can swap the towers then that would be good too

[wraith oxide]

this enclosure only has those towers. you would have to mod the current ones to fit this enclosure.

[elder swallow]

I see, I’m not good at cad so I’ll just pray the new toolhead does the job

[wraith oxide]

i have wanted to implement the newer towers just havent gotten around to it. it requires basically a rework of the stepper tower for this enclosure.

[wraith oxide]

okay after reviewing the cad a bunch the rear towers need a little adjustment (need to completely remake them due to stuff not being parrallel (i think i spelled that right)) but i will probably have new towers by this weekend if you want to hold off on install. these wiill use all 4 mounting holes for the stepper and also change the belt path a little (manly just shorten it) and also will include the newest shim stack setup. ill probably do a minor adjust on the tension tower to also accept the new bearing stack. (shim bearing shim bearing shim)

[elder swallow]

I have the towers installed but even with the belts as loose as I could possibly have them, they are still too tight, so I’m looking forward to what u cook up. Also I did notice the bearing stack being different in the tension towers and idk what the difference is but I’ll update that too when u finish ur modifications

[wraith oxide]

ill send you the tension towers today. its just a small adjustment to accept the newer bearing stack basically.

[elder swallow]

Sounds good, and did you modify the whole tower or just the part that moves inside? I’d rather avoid reprinting that entire tower if I can

[wraith oxide]

the front towers its just the smaller part thats all. the rears will be more intesive.

[elder swallow]

Gotcha gotcha, looking forward to printing what u come up with

[wraith oxide]

tensioners done. just makes room for 3 shims. and used the step file of the zero g to make this so the belt path is right.

[elder swallow]

Ill try to check them out and print them when I’m home from school and done with my schoolwork

[wraith oxide]

small revisions to the holes for the stepper tower and how it mounts.

[wraith oxide]

my revision will require you to remove the corner bolt in the frame to attach the stepper tower and if you have a long enough bolt can run it though to connect the frame again. one side done.

[torn garden]

Is this all of the models for the enclosure or do I need to print some different ones if I want to do this mkd but keep the belts? @wraith oxide

[wraith oxide]

if you want to run this enclosure you may need longer belts but im unsure. check out the github for all files. im not the creator of the enclosure just a user. https://github.com/Vprince099/ZANDVE/tree/main/Type-Z

updated pillow mount also. adds a bearing (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BRQP2QG7/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1) on the stepper shaft to help prevent shaft flex.

difference in belt path, belt is stock belt path, this enclosure is slightly different.

[elder swallow]

What’s this slit on the bottom rear right tower for? My obvious guess is for the belts but won’t that rub too much against the plastic?

[wraith oxide]

that seems to be to thin a wall.

before after

should fix it.

[elder swallow]

will test them out and let you know

[wraith oxide]

ill be printing them probably beginning of the week. gotta get other stuff donde.

[elder swallow]

So I put it all together and it actually made the belts tighter instead of looser. Is this the correct belt path? It doesn’t match the picture you sent but I don’t think the picture is possible

[elder swallow]

The belts were so tight that they snapped my printed belt clip, so I gotta diy some temporary fix to print a new one

[wraith oxide]

looks to be correct. idk if it would make it shorter. the picture i sent was the belt path of the original design vs this tower design.

[elder swallow]

Oh I see, my issue is that the enclosures belt path is longer than the standard mercury belt path and so my belt isn’t long enough

I’d rather not have to buy a new belt if I can avoid it

[elder swallow]

would you be able to design a tower with a shorter belt path?

[wraith oxide]

It would involve so much redesign for not a whole lot of gain besides you not having to buy belts

[elder swallow]

I see, alright I’ll just have to find belts and order then

[wraith oxide]

Would Involve everything in the back of the enclosure to be changed for what your asking.

[elder swallow]

What does the mod that u just made do if not shorten the belt path?

[wraith oxide]

Redoes the entire rear steppes to fix some non squareness to them and incorporate the new shim stack as well, maybe I can change some stuff around to shorten it like maybe 2mm but idk overall.

[elder swallow]

Gotcha, so it’s good I printed them anyways I suppose. I’ll probdbly just buy new belts and cut them longer, hopefully they aren’t pricey because I haven’t looked

[wraith oxide]

https://www.fabreeko.com/products/gates-gt2-open-belt-ll-2gt-6-9-12-reinforced?_pos=2&_sid=362318094&_ss=r&variant=42466462728447 $5 a meter.

[elder swallow]

I bought 6 meters off ali express for 27 but the high temp ones so should be even better hopefully

[torn garden]

Where are the voron skirts with the zero G logo from?

[naive swan]

I posted them on the GitHub https://github.com/Vprince099/ZANDVE

[torn garden]

Thanks

And the feet are just the voron ones without any modifications?

[sick crest]

Does anybody have the dxf files (or measurements) for an E5+ w/XL Top Hat?

[elder swallow]

Dxf is for the panels right? I’m hoping to find those as well

[sick crest]

Do you have an updated CAD that incorporates your changes to the stepper and tension towers?

[wraith oxide]

not of the full enclosure just the mercury with the new towers. idk if it will let me upload without nitro.

well i guess the file is small enough for just the towers but not the full enclosure.

[sick crest]

How are the rear panels for the top hat held in place? I am not seeing any hardware in the CAD file for the gantry cover or top hat sections. 😕

[torn garden]

Whats the difference between standard and max power

[elder swallow]

Standard are the motors that come with the merc kit if u bought from fabreeko, max power is just bigger motors

[torn garden]

Like different size nema?

[elder swallow]

Yep

[wraith oxide]

its actually for a nema 17 still but uses a longer shaft to support the shaft to prevent deflection in the motor shaft. you could go from a 42x48 to a 42x60 if you wanted.

[torn garden]

Oh

[wraith oxide]

bearings can be inserted into the stapper tower to add support. there is a mod for the zero g steppers to add a single bearing on one side as support.

[wraith oxide]

metal stepper tower revision.

[elder swallow]

Most of the enclosure is put together, I think I’m just missing pannel attachments which I’ll print once I have panels. I couldn’t get the top hat lock to work, so I took out those allignment screws for now and I’ll figure something out later because it was a pain to open and close.

[wraith oxide]

i had to sand my pins to fit really nice and added some grease to them to slide easy

[elder swallow]

I also sanded them a bit and they work fine on their own, but as soon as that M5 screw goes in, it doesn’t want to work

I tested by taking the lock off and testing with a screw and it works

Only has trouble when on the frame, so I’m assuming bad alignment so I might have to reprint the tension towers or just use a soldering iron and melt things till they fit

[wraith oxide]

what kinda fastener are you using for the lock? i used button heads. i know the height needs to be pretty close to get it to lock.

[elder swallow]

I only have socket head on hand, but I sanded the inside of the lock pins so that it fits inside smoothly

[naive swan]

I am working on redesign today

[elder swallow]

is the redesign just the movement or are you changing the frame as well? and what is the benifit of the rails mounted on the side?

[naive swan]

No extra build out on the sides, the panels are flush now

[elder swallow]

ah ok, i just finished printing all the parts to the enclosure but i might reprint whenever you finish the redesign

[naive swan]

Also the top hat is magnetic now

[elder swallow]

are the panel dimensions going to stay the same im guessing?

magnetic top hat sounds very convenient

[naive swan]

yes but the top hat front panel will be 12mm shorter

[elder swallow]

thats good to know, i havent cut panels yet but i guess I'll wait to do so, at least for the top hat front one

[wraith oxide]

@naive swan if you want i can send you step files of the metal steppers if you want to update. they should work with the enclosure.

[naive swan]

Which Steppers?

[wraith oxide]

https://discord.com/channels/747612067951018075/1225611715799023617

i changed the metal plate to work with the enclosure. i did mod some parts but only to make them work.

[naive swan]

oh i was not aware of this

[wraith oxide]

if you decide to do your own lmk.

[shy plinth]

I really like this design to enclose the frame. I assume this design can also be applied to Ender 5 Pro, right?

[naive swan]

With some modifications, yes. Especially if you are running hydra

[shy plinth]

Can you elaborate what components are needed to modify? Thanks

[naive swan]

I do not have a Ender 5 Pro so i dont know what the changes would be

[elder swallow]

Would most of the BOM be the same?

[naive swan]

It will mostly result in less screws since the gantry build out is gone now

[elder swallow]

oh ok cool, I was afraid I'd have to buy more materials

@naive swan I can't remember if you mentioned before, but what thickness are the panels for the enclosure?

[naive swan]

the acrylic is 2-3mm and coroplast is ~4mm.

[elder swallow]

the coroplast is the back panel right? and im guessing plexiglass is the same as the acrylic

[wraith hazel]

Anyone end up doing this for the 5-pro? Really liking the look of it

[wraith oxide]

i believe there would need to be changes but the cad is on github for you to check if it will work.

[shy plinth]

I am in the process of adapting this design for E5Pro. Front tower and rear tower seem to be compatible. Skirts prebuild parts seem to be compatible too. Skirts postbuild parts are not compatible. But step file includes a shorter version side skirt (no visible by default). Top hat extensions are also too long. But the print parts of it should be fine.

[wraith hazel]

Yeah the Top hat is specifically what I’m interested in! Let me know if you get it working. I don’t really have access to my PC for a month 😂

[wraith hazel]

Oh wait I just read that again. Okay so the prints for the top hat should work fine. Obviously the extra extrusions I have to buy the proper size for the 5P

[shy plinth]

The distance between the front tower and the rear tower is not long enough for 330mm linear rail if they are installed on E5Pro. It's about 5 mm short.

[elder swallow]

Any update on the redesign? Also question for the future if you aren’t implementing it already, your enclosure has that middle section of acrylic between the door and the top hat that isn’t the biggest inconvenience but I’m wondering if there’s a way to make the door extend into that bit?

[wraith oxide]

there is a mod done by o guy on here that does that. check @naive swan github for the project.

[elder swallow]

I think I've seen the mod ur talking about, but i don't know if that mod will apply to the revised version and i myself don't have the skills to mod it myself so i was wondering if there will be something like it implemented into the new design

[wraith oxide]

oh got you

[naive swan]

The revised version is just slimmer on the sides , the only problem will be the towers on that mod may need to have some updates. I will work on enhancing that portion as well to incorporate it natively

[wraith oxide]

love the current setup. wonder what new things you got cooking.

[keen shuttle]

Hi Vengeful, sorry to bother you
Is there any updates for the revised version?

[tropic inlet]

can you share yours mount for drag chain ?

[west crow]

hey man. its lethxL, different account. i added you.. is the cad file for this posted somewhere, with the additional hydra parts? the step file on the github still has the old ender 5 plus z axis.

and i noticed some ppl modded some parts of the stepper towers.. are the 'more power' towers running without any issues just like they are in the files? like, no pin misalignment like some of the earlier towers or any other craziness.

[dusk wasp]

I'm also curious, were any new files ever released? The last commit on Github was May 2023. I started printing this project today however would love to pivot and print the files that support the vertically mounted Y rails.

[west crow]

the DXF's to have the panels cut for the enclosure are where? i looked in the BOM but didnt see any details on the panels

@naive swan

[naive swan]

Hey sorry, I have made those before using the cad file. Since all you need to do is go to each panel and create a sketch

@dusk wasp all files were released on the GitHub

@west crow the hydra version exist but I have not put it on the GitHub. I will get it to you later today.

[bronze venture]

How did you cut your coroplast panels so straight?

[naive swan]

I use an exacto knife and follow the inner channels

[dusk wasp]

Thanks for the awesome project! Did the redesigned version with the vertical linear rails ever get released?

[naive swan]

Unofficially it did. It was completed but the cad was not posted since there are a lot of stls to post

[dusk wasp]

Is there a .step or .f3d model of the vertical linear rails and simplified enclosure that I can use to export my own stls? I’ve been gearing up to make your enclosure and would love to pivot to the redesign.
I’m planning to leave my bed stock and not switch to hydra.

[naive swan]

@dusk wasp when you say vertical rails do you mean the hydra rails or the original linear rods? I never made a version that uses linear rails for the Z motion without also using the hydra system.

[dusk wasp]

Sorry I guess that wasn’t very clear. I was referring to the interior vertical rails on the gantry that minimizes how far the side walls have to stick out because now there’s no interference from the carriage rail.

[dusk wasp]

I was trying to describe this one

[west crow]

lol. stop it man.. i was being lazy.. i thought you already had the DXF's made 😆

[sick crest]

Is there a way I can get a copy of your latest step file that has the modifications to the X-gantry and top hat? I checked your Github and it still has the older version on it. Thank you!

[naive swan]

Which version, the one with the hydra system or the untested slim version that has a side mounted x gantry?

[sick crest]

I did not realize there were two different versions.

😳

In that case, any chance I can get a peak at both? I would be interested is testing out the side-mounted x-gantry.

[naive swan]

For those curious there are 2 versions right now --- Slim vs Standard

The main reason all Ender 5s have required some sort of of build up on the frame is because we are using MGN12 rails for the X-gantry

Standard employs extra spacers to mount the enclosure.

Slim changed the mounting of the gantry to the inside of the frame.

Slim

Standard

This is Standard and has been operational for over a year

[jaunty vortex]

i am making one with the eva toolhead