Ender 5 Plus - Mercury 1 (Classic) with Stealth Burner and New Enclosure Project

[deep vine]

Amazon delivered me some extruder parts today for my clockwork 2

[mild hinge]

nice

[deep vine]

How’s the VORON?

[mild hinge]

Me ...in the atttic out of my sight

its broke

[deep vine]

Printing yet?

[vocal terrace]

oof

[deep vine]

Ohhh how’s it broken

[mild hinge]

not even close ...the left gantry bolts not lining up

[deep vine]

Burgo is the man to ask about that

[mild hinge]

not ripping it apart

[vocal terrace]

about what?

[deep vine]

Voron gantry bolts

[vocal terrace]

oh

well. I don't have cnc

and don't want reg cnc parst

I'd get lightweigt stuff if were to

also prob would go AWD

however I'd just get a better machine then V2.4 by that part lo

[deep vine]

Oh. Yeah Mike had the cnc parts

[vocal terrace]

chaotic labs 1s

[deep vine]

I love my cnc tap

[vocal terrace]

yea my 4 magnets do the same result

[mild hinge]

Ill probally will leave it in the attic

[deep vine]

Mike you should print your gantry parts and see if it lines up with them and you will know if it a fault with the cnc parts

[deep vine]

Klicky?

[vocal terrace]

no. the new tap printed

it's literally the same strnght

[deep vine]

There’s a new version of tap?

[vocal terrace]

yes.

came out yesterday

[deep vine]

Ooh

[mild hinge]

its ok Ill just leave it alone

[deep vine]

Send me a link

[deep vine]

Weekend

[vocal terrace]

Why do u work 60 hours a week?

[mild hinge]

work

[vocal terrace]

yes but what u do?

[mild hinge]

money

[vocal terrace]

yes. but like u that much in need for the extra?

ur mental health is big important

[mild hinge]

its all good

[deep vine]

So you should be able to afford a bamboo lab x1 carbon

[vocal terrace]

burh no

so that u can spend time doing what u enjoy

[mild hinge]

part of the job

[vocal terrace]

yes but like u seem very much starved of free time

[mild hinge]

nahhh

I dont mind

Ill be back later have a few things to do

[vocal terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/cap-doctor-meme-gif-23263243

I saw that reaction to the gantry oof

[mild hinge]

Caps ....

Just be a 3d printer not used

[vocal terrace]

Lol. It's funny

[mild hinge]

Ok

To me its just him putting on a bunch of hats

but its all good

[naive swan]

im stuck on can

[vocal terrace]

Wdym?

Did u set the jumpers?

[naive swan]

I think so

It doesn’t recognize can0

fly@flygemini:~$ python3 ~/CanBoot/scripts/flash_can.py -i can0 -q

ERROR:root:Can Flash Error
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/home/fly/CanBoot/scripts/flash_can.py", line 493, in run_query
self.cansock.bind((intf,))
OSError: [Errno 19] No such device

During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/home/fly/CanBoot/scripts/flash_can.py", line 621, in main
loop.run_until_complete(sock.run_query(intf))
File "/usr/lib/python3.9/asyncio/base_events.py", line 642, in run_until_complete
return future.result()
File "/home/fly/CanBoot/scripts/flash_can.py", line 495, in run_query
raise FlashCanError("Unable to bind socket to can0")
FlashCanError: Unable to bind socket to can0

i set bitrate to 1000000 per ebb36 instructions

not sure if that is my problem

Jumper on the board(not sure if that is what it is)

Jumper on ebb36

I also tried it without the jumper on the Gemini side

Not connected to the Gemini I get 120

awesome the ebb has diag pins

with out the jumper on the gemini i get 120 ohms

with jumper i get 60

awesome

so i am at 60 ohms

[vocal terrace]

I think 60 is target both sides idk

[naive swan]

yeah its good on that part

that had me worried, powering back up

Last login: Tue May 2 01:37:02 2023 from 192.168.1.195
fly@flygemini:~$ sudo ip link set can0 up type can bitrate 1000000
[sudo] password for fly:
Cannot find device "can0"
fly@flygemini:~$

shit no dice

fly@flygemini:~$ ip -d -s link show can0
Device "can0" does not exist.

sudo apt-get install can-utils

installed this

not sure if it will do anything

should i tune the ebb36 to 500000 instead?

i could just drop a u2c in as well

oh damn

allow-hotplug can0
iface can0 can static
bitrate 1000000
up ip link set can0 txqueuelen 1024

i never did this

the file was there but set to a static 500000

[naive swan]

looks like i needed to setup usb to can on my mcu 1st

fly@flygemini:~$ ~/klippy-env/bin/python ~/klipper/scripts/canbus_query.py can0
Found canbus_uuid=14705c1991ab, Application: Klipper
Found canbus_uuid=d3bf478f4fb5, Application: CanBoot
Total 2 uuids found
fly@flygemini:~$

now we are talking

fly@flygemini:~/klipper$ python3 ~/CanBoot/scripts/flash_can.py -i can0 -q
Resetting all bootloader node IDs...
Checking for canboot nodes...
Detected UUID: d3bf478f4fb5, Application: CanBoot
Query Complete
fly@flygemini:~/klipper$ python3 ~/CanBoot/scripts/flash_can.py -i can0 -u d3bf478f4fb5 -f ~/klipper/out/klipper.bin
Sending bootloader jump command...
Resetting all bootloader node IDs...
Checking for canboot nodes...
Detected UUID: d3bf478f4fb5, Application: CanBoot
Attempting to connect to bootloader
CanBoot Connected
Protocol Version: 1.0.0
Block Size: 64 bytes
Application Start: 0x8002000
MCU type: stm32g0b1xx
Verifying canbus connection
Flashing '/home/fly/klipper/out/klipper.bin'...

[##################################################]

Write complete: 13 pages
Verifying (block count = 414)...

[##################################################]

Verification Complete: SHA = 437CA79B04CAEBAA3B3332C9C5BA3969FAF2FCBE
CAN Flash Success
fly@flygemini:~/klipper$

its alive!

just need to update my configs and i am good to go

its up and running but the pt1000 is still acting up

[mild hinge]

3rd layer

[naive swan]

Just some clean up needed

[mild hinge]

Sounds like it's rubbing the infill

[naive swan]

And a cpu fan since this has dedicated 5v port

true test of my patience today

[mild hinge]

Should I raise the nozzle ?

[naive swan]

Maybe

Maybe be a loose nozzle as well

Or canted toolhead

[mild hinge]

Only does itnin certain spots

[naive swan]

What machine is this?

[mild hinge]

Ender 5 pro

[naive swan]

Ah ok

[vocal terrace]

frame maybe

[naive swan]

Still on v wheels?

[mild hinge]

Rails

[naive swan]

Are the rails square?

[mild hinge]

Yesn

[naive swan]

And is your x gantry square

[mild hinge]

Yes

[vocal terrace]

prob frame if ceratin sptos

take bed pic and highlight spots

[naive swan]

Ok and the cr touch is snug?

Or what is the prob?

[naive swan]

Ok cr

[vocal terrace]

nothing is highlighted

[mild hinge]

It's only on the infill part

The outline is quiet as mouse

[naive swan]

What’s your bed mesh look like?

[vocal terrace]

ur dog shit at photos

that tell me shit

[mild hinge]

lol

[vocal terrace]

well tells me that 1 spot prob may have filament under bed

[naive swan]

Yeah you may have random high points

Have you tried printing on other parts of the bed?

[mild hinge]

yea going to stop the print

no i havent but will

[vocal terrace]

Dont

If it works works

[mild hinge]

usually print i nthe middle

[vocal terrace]

ridga

[mild hinge]

top of print rough

0

[vocal terrace]

literally isn't

pa prob too high

[naive swan]

Or high EM

What is your EM at?

[vocal terrace]

this part is a tidge

.925

[mild hinge]

0.89

[naive swan]

And rotation distance? Is it properly tuned

Also are you using the elis guide?

[mild hinge]

8.4 rotation

yes

[naive swan]

Whoa

What’s the gear ratio on the orbiter

[mild hinge]

i have bmg

407 via marlin

[naive swan]

Wow that seems way to low of a rotation distance

[mild hinge]

ill double check it

[naive swan]

I normally expect 17-25

[vocal terrace]

vzhextruodrt is 4. something

[naive swan]

On 50:10 gear ratio

Don’t you dare burg

[naive swan]

Whats the gear ratio on that?

[vocal terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/uzui-better-gif-24953549

10:50

1:5

[naive swan]

https://tenor.com/view/ight-imma-head-out-spongebob-imma-head-out-ima-head-out-gif-14902967

[vocal terrace]

1:6.24 or 1:5

[mild hinge]

mine is 3.1 gears 407 steps

[vocal terrace]

idk marlin anymore

fuck that

[mild hinge]

yea me either im on klipper

it was a bit high

[vocal terrace]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804841683737.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.11.23f318020frBCk&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa&_randl_shipto=US

guys.

@naive swan u got scammed

[dawn vapor]

Is that legit?

[vocal terrace]

Yes.

https://discord.gg/armchairengineeringsux

[dawn vapor]

@naive swan noticed the bottom hole doesn’t line up with stepper mount.

[vocal terrace]

New pfp

Needa make a red outline

[deep vine]

@naive swan you don’t need the jumper on the ebb36

[naive swan]

Yep just noticed it on the weekend

[naive swan]

The Gemini board won’t communicate on can without it

[dawn vapor]

Any of you using a filament sensor with klipper?

[vocal terrace]

no

its eays to setp

[mild hinge]

I have a smart btt but not installed

I was given 2 of them

[deep vine]

oh, thats wierd, didnt think it would be different, i found alot of the instructions online are abit contradictory, atleast you got it working

[naive swan]

it may be a board specific thing

[deep vine]

ERCF uses the encoder with the happy hare project to incorporate fillament runout detection, which allows for endless spool

[deep vine]

i agree

[naive swan]

my ucan with ebb36 didnt need it

[naive swan]

but i wonder if that is what is causing my disconnects

[vocal terrace]

could be add

its supposed to be terminated on both ends

[mild hinge]

Sb2040 only needed termination on the sb2040

[vocal terrace]

a stable canbus should have both sides terminated

some stuff like octopus pro has only 1 side terminated

[naive swan]

maybe i should do that

[vocal terrace]

cause other is built in

[naive swan]

both sides of mine arent

[vocal terrace]

its something to just do

it doesn'

doesn't cause issues

[naive swan]

https://www.fysetc.com/products/fysetc-ucan-board-based-on-stm32f072-usb-to-can-adapter-support-with-canable-candlelight-klipper-firmware

ok its set on by defualt

just need to do it on the tool head

[vocal terrace]

yes.

[vocal terrace]

this is what octopus pro does too

each side is supposed to be terminated with can

[naive swan]

simple fix then

why do you need to do it though?

[vocal terrace]

Why has the CAN standard selected 120 Ohm resistors? The answer is that most automotive cables are single wire. If you take the wires typically used in a car and twist them into a pair, you will get an impedance of 120 Ohm.

just so they are balanced

[naive swan]

ok makes sense now

alright installed on my ebb36 now

[vocal terrace]

I don't even care enoufgh to learn how canbus works lol

[naive swan]

i have a general idea at this point

when i build a gundam... i will need to up the ante

[vocal terrace]

but gundams are banned

[mild hinge]

I have octopus pro

[vocal terrace]

has it terminated internally

[mild hinge]

Gotcha

That makes sense

[ionic plaza]

however it’s not something that should prevent the system to work, I used a system with the terminating resistor only on the toolhead. I went on for a month and it worked the same as when I added the 120ohm termination resistor on the first can device (to have the 60ohm total)

I guess it’s more important in cars, where the can network it much more complex than in our printers

[vocal terrace]

its still important.

U should have them.

it's literally included with can products

[ionic plaza]

yes, that’t why I soldered in a resistor.. just to be safe. you need only 2 though. so if you add other cans in the middles, you should remove the jumpers

[vocal terrace]

what board?

[ionic plaza]

a constellation of skr minis 😂

[vocal terrace]

yes but what are u using to connect Canbus?

[ionic plaza]

mcp2551 transceivers

the v3 can do usb to can, so in its mcp I added a resistor between l/h (there are also nicer transceiver with the resistor and the jumper built in)

[vocal terrace]

Yea I think got 1 with them built in

[dawn vapor]

PWM fan recommendation : https://www.newark.com/wakefield-solutions/dc0401012v2b-2t0/axial-fan-40mm-12vdc-12-23cfm/dp/66AH8624

12V fan w/tach spins at 9k rpm (exceeds SB recommended fan speeds) and with the tach you can use the tach monitor config to save your hot end incase of a critical failure

[vocal terrace]

just get XOL2

then use a 25mm fan

or dragonburner

[dawn vapor]

But SB has what people like. 🌈 leds and a sleek hipster look

[vocal terrace]

both have leds

[dawn vapor]

Hey!

[vocal terrace]

eat shat

[dawn vapor]

I cant tell what your pic is

[vocal terrace]

burgerking foot lettuce

[dawn vapor]

Oh now i can make it out

I liked your old one before

Foot lettuce hard to see

Maybe one foot?

[naive swan]

i just spent an hour diagnosing my stepper drivers....

i forgot they have their own power rail on this board

[mild hinge]

yea me working on the bed leveling

[naive swan]

shit that didnt solve it

[mild hinge]

oh

im really starting to dislike the mic6 bed

just keep getting out of level

[vocal terrace]

u using springs?

[mild hinge]

yes

[vocal terrace]

It could be frame.

uyse silicone buffers

keep their form

[mild hinge]

maybe

I might switch to the blue springs

stronger then these stupid yellow springs

[vocal terrace]

don't

just use the buffers

[mild hinge]

ok

[vocal terrace]

why I kept the shit bed

[mild hinge]

i have the original bed

ender 5 pro

[dawn vapor]

What exactly is happening?

[dawn vapor]

How so

[mild hinge]

prints keep failing

[dawn vapor]

That looks odd. So you have a mic6 bed. Magnet on top?

[mild hinge]

yes

[dawn vapor]

What probe?

[mild hinge]

cr-touch

[dawn vapor]

Whats your start macro? And bed surface

[mild hinge]

PEI

I'd like to get the beacon installed and running

[vocal terrace]

its ur frame prob

check how square it is

[mild hinge]

yea

ok ill check that

[naive swan]

Well my little mid project- project is done

just need to make a cat6 outlet and and i can close up the back

[mild hinge]

@naive swan very cool. Nice printer. My printer is junk

[naive swan]

Every printer is junk, just depends on how much time and money you want to throw at it

[naive swan]

Back in its natural habitat

[deep vine]

its supposed to be the final can board in the link that requires the jumper

[dawn vapor]

I put jumper in u2c and sb2240 without issue.

[deep vine]

interesting mine has only on U2C

[vocal terrace]

No. Each end

[deep vine]

Beautiful

[vocal terrace]

Cap vengeful got the shit machine. Not a saladforo

Fork

[deep vine]

Nothing wrong with the cute little V0

[naive swan]

@vocal terrace you are very negative, unfortunately enough for me not to need that drama in my life. I dont want to block you but🤷‍♂️

[vocal terrace]

I was joking here ):

I actually think looks good thought said above oof

Sry.

[naive swan]

not just to me, i could care less but to others as well

[vocal terrace]

Real gates pog

[naive swan]

sigh

[vocal terrace]

Do I see sht on there?

Also what Amp those motors go upto

[naive swan]

i think they are 1.5amp

[naive swan]

they are gates or really good knock offs

they came with the kit

[deep vine]

did someone say gates

[naive swan]

very nice, mine have been top notch

[vocal terrace]

Woah woah woah it's a groove notch (;

[deep vine]

Looking foward to getting them on.
I’m running the first print with new motors and sb2240 and I must say I’m really happy with it so far, still have some tuning to do tho

[vocal terrace]

They still sound kinda fucky

Is that 100mm/s?

Do higher with those motors fyi

What's ur volumetric flow rnM

[deep vine]

Atm they are in spread cycle

[vocal terrace]

Why

[deep vine]

Not much

[vocal terrace]

Stealthchop on?

No right

[deep vine]

I had a problem with the initial tuning of sensorless homing and the motors drawing to much current

The stealchop was overloading the driver and throwing up errors

[vocal terrace]

What's. Don't put stealthchip on

[deep vine]

That’s why they are load because it’s not on

[deep vine]

Do you have these motors?

[vocal terrace]

No I have the first Rev of them 2504

Not 2804

Stealthchop will never titan on

[deep vine]

what is you printer config for them?

[dawn vapor]

This is true. What i read on voron community for higher than 100mms keep it off.

[dawn vapor]

I just got my setup up and running but havent done test print yet. Maybe by the weekend. Printing rest of top hat. Are you using top hat xl?

[deep vine]

Oh cool, pleased you are nearly there. Yeah I have vengeful’s top hat XL, I wanted extra space because of umbilical

[deep vine]

Tbh, I will rarely go over 100mms I’m hoping to make as quiet as possible for night printing

[vocal terrace]

In general don't put it on

[deep vine]

I wish there was a quiet mode button on the mainsail that would change parameters for night time

[vocal terrace]

What current u got em at?

[deep vine]

1.2

[vocal terrace]

That's low

I run mine 1.4 stock

U got em with fans?

Mine are upto 2.5A not 2.8A

[deep vine]

No fans

[vocal terrace]

Wait they are fuckung loud then

[deep vine]

I seen the temps of these motors are up to 180c

[vocal terrace]

I meant fans on drivers..

[deep vine]

Yeah I have fans on drivers

[vocal terrace]

Oh not that bad then

Those motors are good af

I'd run just the shit metal heatsinks ngl

Those good enough

[deep vine]

Yeah, they seem to stay cool enough tbh

Just the noise

[dawn vapor]

Your running those with the high voltage drivers if i remember right?

[deep vine]

Yeah

Well technically no

They are 48v

Hight voltage is classed as >50

[dawn vapor]

I havent done any testing so take it with a grain of salt but o would just use the 2209’s if your not planning on using them for speed. Anyone here run those steppers on 2209’s i could be wrong.

Im under the impression that the drivers are what generate the r2d2 beeps

[deep vine]

Yeah your right tbh, I could do go back to my 2209’s but they weren’t any quieter, I thought

[dawn vapor]

And i need to re look at my config i have them set at .7 amps lol

Hmm

[dawn vapor]

I wonder why some drivers are considered quiet. I dont hear any of that noise on vez3ds vzbot.

Whenever hes doing his speed runs

[vocal terrace]

Bruh ofc their loud

Honestly u don't need those motors then lol

[deep vine]

I set mine at .7 and It was skipping steps

[vocal terrace]

Yr stuff is too loud lol

[vocal terrace]

Higher power these motors like

[vocal terrace]

Yes that's way too low

[deep vine]

He has noise cancelling software

[vocal terrace]

Yes but ur stuff is still way louder

BTT 5160s?

[dawn vapor]

Yeah thats what i thought. He mentioned running higher voltage but not amps

[vocal terrace]

He uses good 5160s the mellow extrrnals

[vocal terrace]

He still runs those things high amps

2.8x .707 he prob does

[deep vine]

@naive swan how loud is your type z

[dawn vapor]

US $21.61 9％ Off | Mellow Fly 24V/48V HV TMC5160 Pro V1.2 Stepper Motor Driver StepStick SPI Silent For Marlin / Klipper / RRF 3D Printer Parts
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mLx9UDQ

[dawn vapor]

R2d2 yelling loud lol

I kinda like it though

[deep vine]

😂

[dawn vapor]

Makes me think of an old sci fi movie

[vocal terrace]

Do u have these?

They are the good ones

[dawn vapor]

No have the btt pro ones

[deep vine]

Do you dream of Star Wars every night lol

[vocal terrace]

Btt ones are bad

[dawn vapor]

But honestly these are cheaper may get a set

[deep vine]

😆

[vocal terrace]

The mellows are better.

They are the best rn

[dawn vapor]

Kids and i have been binging mando

[vocal terrace]

Also they went on sale last month for 25cad

Instead of 31

Should have gotten some

[deep vine]

I heard it’s good

[deep vine]

You buy them and send to me plz 😉

[vocal terrace]

14 fats

[vocal terrace]

No u have 1s

But straight up u don't need 48V

[deep vine]

Not mellow

[vocal terrace]

U are printing so slow for 48v

@naive swan

[deep vine]

48v should provide higher quality not just speed

[vocal terrace]

Not really

It's just higher power to ur drivers.

Closed loops are how u get higher quality

But then u get nema23 servos.

Or u use 23s cause they strong enough

[deep vine]

Hmm

[deep vine]

What’s this?

[vocal terrace]

A expensive ass light showing off my roborock fan

For a vacuum cleaner

Or my cpap fan.

Kekw

[deep vine]

Oh nice, that’s guna do some blowing

[dawn vapor]

I still dont get what generates the noise. Ive seen other people driving the steppers jelly has without that noise on 2208/9’s

https://youtu.be/lA-sTlLjGe8

That one seems to have fans being the loudest issue

[vocal terrace]

5160s is whqt

They are loud

[naive swan]

very loud

on 2209s

[vocal terrace]

5160s just be lpud

[vocal terrace]

Fans?

Is it only fans?

[deep vine]

Could just be my panel’s resonating

[vocal terrace]

Wait no max power

[vocal terrace]

Doesn't it always sound that loud?

[naive swan]

Steppers, yeah they are max power but the old steppers were loud as well

[deep vine]

“Homing x! X homed” 😂

[vocal terrace]

U aren't sensorless homing em right?

[deep vine]

Yeh

[naive swan]

im not

[vocal terrace]

@dawn vapor why ask then how bad?

[vocal terrace]

Good

They annoying I've heard

Are u beacon jelly?

@naive swan u didn't comment on my fan ):

[deep vine]

I mean I am using sensorless

[vocal terrace]

I'm not a fan of that

[vocal terrace]

Oh.

[naive swan]

i loved it....

[vocal terrace]

That'll adds some noise pretty sure

[deep vine]

Awwww

[vocal terrace]

What's ur max mm/s with em u tried to move to*

Also adxl

Jelly what probe?

[deep vine]

See lettuce 🥬, he is your biggest fan

[vocal terrace]

No that's ur mom.

[naive swan]

and sensorless is ok if you dont have things you need to hit consistently like mech switch, brush, klicky

[deep vine]

Bitch

[vocal terrace]

True

But klicky it's fine with

If u tune right its chill

I'm prob gonna just do mechanical ngl

For both machines

[naive swan]

if its off by a mm you are screwed on klicky

[deep vine]

I might go back

[vocal terrace]

No 0.5 can do it too

[naive swan]

true

[vocal terrace]

My shit switches couldn't do klicky with bad frame

[naive swan]

it was a pain in the ass until i went beacon

[vocal terrace]

L

[naive swan]

now i may go back to sensorless

[vocal terrace]

@deep vine what probe bruh

Answer or imma make ur ass the probe

[naive swan]

x endstop always faults so i had to do a workaround lol

[deep vine]

Tap tap

[vocal terrace]

Ewwww I forgot

Xol2 is pog

But Frick tap

Not tap the one u use

[deep vine]

Why does it fault?

[vocal terrace]

Unless ur a sick person of smooth sides only

Textured if ur cultured

[deep vine]

Cnc is great

[vocal terrace]

I disagreee

How much costs when 4 mags do the same adxl

That much weight should have an effect.

But don't

Tap is just kinda a flawed idea. Klicky good enough

[deep vine]

Cnc tap will last longer

[naive swan]

[gcode_macro PRINT_START]
gcode:
# Parameters
{% set BED = params.BED|int %} ; Get bed temp from gcode
{% set HOTEND = params.HOTEND|int %} ; Get nozzle temp from gcode
G28 # Home if needed
G1 Z50.0 F600 ;move the platform down 50mm
M106 S255
M190 S{BED} ; wait for bed temp
G28 # Home if needed
G90 # Use absolute coordinates
SET_GCODE_OFFSET Z=0.0 # Reset the G-Code Z offset from previous value
BED_MESH_CLEAR # Clear the current bed mesh
Z_TILT_ADJUST
G91
G1 y100 F7800
G1 x-100 F7800
G90
G28 # Rehome so absolute coordinates do ok
BED_MESH_CALIBRATE
M117 Temp set to {HOTEND}
M109 S{HOTEND} ; wait for hotend temp
M106 S0
G92 E0 ; set extruder to 0
M117 Purging... ; message to the

[vocal terrace]

No less

It's literally mechanicap

Cnc tap won't

It will die easier

It uses physical to optical

[naive swan]

notice what i do after the z tilt?

[deep vine]

Sexy I need this

[naive swan]

its in the github, the full routine

this is just an excerpt

[vocal terrace]

U fix the weird turtle tilt?

[naive swan]

what?

[vocal terrace]

The 4 probe point thing

[naive swan]

oh lol no

[vocal terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/cap-thats-cap-eyeglasses-selfie-boy-gif-17626520

It's less on pei but like.

The switch is fricken weird

[naive swan]

i move the toolhead away from the front right corner because the x endstop doesnt work in that area

probably a cable break

[deep vine]

Oh right what the frick

Defo an issue to fix another day lol

[naive swan]

and this is how you automate the bullshit workarounds to get things to work

[deep vine]

Patching them bugs

Cut till it runs

[naive swan]

right..."patching"

[deep vine]

😃

[vocal terrace]

Isn't x on can?

[naive swan]

lol no

exactly....

[vocal terrace]

Bruh do u run extra cables for that?

[naive swan]

yes it was already there before can

[deep vine]

It’s on his gantry

[vocal terrace]

I'd splice it

Ohhhh

Gantry okf

Oof

Just run the stealthburner stuff with it integrated

[naive swan]

im going to run x and y back to the can

[vocal terrace]

Don't do y

It will catch on stuff

When moce

Move

[naive swan]

https://tenor.com/view/think-smart-gif-22411928

via the cable chain

[vocal terrace]

So sensorless

[vocal terrace]

Everything in vengeful cable chain

https://tenor.com/view/naruto-and-sasuke-sasunaru-anime-make-out-kissing-gif-17946686

[deep vine]

Think about how many spaces you have on the board for probes

In the future you may need tool head sensor for tradrack

[vocal terrace]

Yea.

[deep vine]

Gay

[vocal terrace]

That wrong?

[naive swan]

i would still have 2 free spaces

[vocal terrace]

Also tradrack may have stuff for that afterwards

[deep vine]

Erm, no..

[deep vine]

Fairs

[vocal terrace]

Exactly stfu or kiss me

[naive swan]

this is why no one watches Naruto

[deep vine]

Is it true in America, someone was organising loads of people to Naruto run into Area 51?

[vocal terrace]

Yes.

[deep vine]

Hahaha

[vocal terrace]

They didn't enter

It was for the speed

Tuwy could dodge bullets that way

Ik cause Americans too fucking loud

Even for canada

[naive swan]

i think that was a thing during covid, since people had too much freetime on their hands

[deep vine]

They would just get shot lol

[vocal terrace]

Prior

[deep vine]

Yeah covid sucked ass

[naive swan]

i think the logic was if it was too many people then they wouldnt do it

[vocal terrace]

Literally people get killed for just knocking on someone's door in the us

[vocal terrace]

It was a troll

[naive swan]

like 12 people they are getting shot, but 500...they wouldnt dare

[vocal terrace]

https://youtu.be/IZ7F6ELO-hQ

Very real

[deep vine]

Ahh, shit, but you would need to find a lot of people that didn’t care if they would be killed

Scary

[naive swan]

well after 1000 people, you were good to go

[vocal terrace]

Watch the video it's good

It's true

[naive swan]

too many people to justify it

[vocal terrace]

I love internet historian

And men

I mean women

[naive swan]

like any other riot

[vocal terrace]

It was a troll thing

[deep vine]

Interesting

[naive swan]

yes i get that but think about it

[vocal terrace]

@deep vine u know people dying in the states for tryna go into the wrong car or knocking on a door?

[naive swan]

look at the capitol riots?

[vocal terrace]

Naruto is about freedom.

[vocal terrace]

So stupid

[naive swan]

that was ok, but storming area 51 is bad?

[deep vine]

We can’t comprehend how governments run everything

[naive swan]

i still remember people on that day, calling me and asking if they should still be working....lol

[deep vine]

That’s crazy

[naive swan]

i mean they had a point

[deep vine]

What was the point

[naive swan]

it was a full on coup d'état

[deep vine]

Pardon your French

[naive swan]

i was just surprised i didnt ask myself the same question

[deep vine]

What does it mean

[naive swan]

the people doing the coup d'état(had no leg to stand on) but i think most people were like "are they serious right now?"

[vocal terrace]

Corruption

[deep vine]

Yeah

[vocal terrace]

What day the insurrection?

[naive swan]

yes that day

[vocal terrace]

Fucking stupid people

[deep vine]

Huh

[vocal terrace]

Trump lost.

[deep vine]

I need to look it up

Oh about trump

I remember

They stormed a government building

[vocal terrace]

Yeah. Trump and alot of Republicans tried to Frick up democracy

[vocal terrace]

The main building

[deep vine]

Trump told them to do it on social media

[vocal terrace]

No more sruff

He had a rally

[deep vine]

Shit!

[mild hinge]

Anybody have a beacon mount /eva 3 without having to do any soldoering and cutting the USB cable

[vocal terrace]

Don't do eva3

[mild hinge]

why

[naive swan]

Back to overhang capabilities

Still needs some tuning but I’m glad my prototyping machine is up and running again

[twilit edge]

The newest mount doesn't require any soldering

[twilit edge]

???

[mild hinge]

@twilit edge you have a link for the newest mount ?

[twilit edge]

https://jon-harper.github.io/E34M1/modules/bottom/#trihorns-for-beacon
You'll also need the back piece. That doc entry links to it.

[mild hinge]

Thanks...have to dry filament has some moisture in it ...fun times

[vocal terrace]

I'm team vz-toolhead

[twilit edge]

https://tenor.com/view/fenrisfelicis-disappointed-disappointed-but-not-surprised-text-meme-kinetic-typography-gif-21253013

[vocal terrace]

Goliath is better than eva

Eva3 is cool for 1 reason if u do it.

4028

[twilit edge]

There's a Goliath mouth for EVA 3.

And for the Hextrudort.

[vocal terrace]

Watercooled

U need vz-hextrudort, goliath and vz toolhead for the short 1

Which is better adxl results

[twilit edge]

Not my bailiwick, dunno if it's watercooled.

[mild hinge]

Don't need water cooled printer already have a dual watercooled pc with 4090

[vocal terrace]

Ew

[mild hinge]

Ew what

[vocal terrace]

Not watercoolkjng printer

[deep vine]

its a fair ratio, watercooled pc so no watercooled printer

[mild hinge]

Yep

[deep vine]

https://tenor.com/view/successful-ratio-sonic-colors-sonic-gif-23191543

[naive swan]

Still some slight issues on the overhangs

[deep vine]

look not bad tho, are you using fan and minimum layer time?

[naive swan]

Yes 15secs and 60%

Better job on these

[vocal terrace]

those look perfect from that nagle

[naive swan]

yeah it loves those angles

just not rounds

[mild hinge]

Nice print

[naive swan]

Nice

[sour prairie]

keep in mind this is a build log for a user aka Vengeful. Not general chat 😛

[dawn vapor]

😰

[dawn vapor]

Going to get the 5160’s from mellow to drive the big guns in back from Vengful’s BOM.

[vocal terrace]

Lol

Don't u got 5160s though u said?

[dawn vapor]

Yeah the BTT. And i see why we got flagged. This threads got 11k more comments than any other build log.

[vocal terrace]

Yea but so. Even so at 3k we coulda

[naive swan]

lol what is going on?

[vocal terrace]

Yea some btt ones can do 48v

[mild hinge]

Sorry I deleted it

[vocal terrace]

@dawn vapor btt ones are good

[naive swan]

HIGOLEPC Mini PC Windows 11 Pro,Intel Celeron N4000 4GB DDR4 64GB eMMC Small Desktop Computer, Micro Desktop PC Support SD Card up to 512GB Dual HDMI 4K, 2.4G/5G WiFi, BT 4.2 https://a.co/d/5b7ldG0

I went ahead and bought a nuc

It was $99 after the coupon

[vocal terrace]

nuc is a intel trademark

[naive swan]

I May just use it on my laser or my cnc build

[vocal terrace]

noice

[naive swan]

It’s a good backup option with all the pi issues right now

I May use it to run both my Mercs simultaneously

[vocal terrace]

Ur welcome

[dawn vapor]

Are you really burgo? I thought last convo we had about btt 5160 they where crap lol i looked up the fly. I like em.

[vocal terrace]

They are fine if not 48v unless there is a high temp btt ones

[shell wolf]

Which cnc you building?

[naive swan]

probably the queen bee

[dawn vapor]

I got my workplace interested in a 3d printer. FDM. We have a 3500-6500 budget im thinking x1 carbon but is there something that fits that budget better?

[shell wolf]

sheesh, that’s quite the budget — maybe 5 Bambu’s 😂

What do you need the printer to accomplish?

[shell wolf]

Not the ULTIMATE BEE ?

[naive swan]

that one

[naive swan]

@shell wolf i just need to do some construction

I have some dead space in one of my attics

[dawn vapor]

Im in the military. Smaller branch. As far as 3d printers go, its all new tech so they don’t know what it could be used for. I think it would be perfect for short term part replacement. Non critical items. Pipes and fittings.

[vocal terrace]

1980s bitch

Ain't new

[dawn vapor]

To them it is. Thats how far behind they are.

[vocal terrace]

https://provok3d.com/product/nozzle-adxl-board/?v=672fe82ac98e

[twilit edge]

X1 Carbon is not a good idea for a military branch. It has some very naughty security issues.

Dunno how much they fixed, but cleartext passwords on a cloud-enabled printer give me the shivers.

[vocal terrace]

It would get hacked from China.

[twilit edge]

Exactly my concern.

I would go something known for reliability to start, if possible. Prusa MK4 is available now. Speed is not a concern. This is the military. They will buy more.

OTOH, that budget could get a fully enclosed, industrial grade printer. Raise3D, for example, though I have no brand recommendations in that area.

Er...sorry @naive swan . Drawing your log off-topic.

[shell wolf]

We’re all getting banned

[twilit edge]

Seems likely.

[vocal terrace]

So what

[naive swan]

no we better not

[mild hinge]

Banned for what

[dawn vapor]

Thats not too much of a worry as it wont ever (at least this machine) be connected to the internet or a military network for that matter. I would prefer it be something scratch build for this small price range but getting a BoM that can be purchased would be a nightmare.

Slicer would probably be a small cheapo computer running prusaslicer or something similar.

[dawn vapor]

For using this as open chat vs straight build log. Although there is lots of colab on the build.

[naive swan]

yeah...

[vocal terrace]

that would be stupid

I'd just make own server

[deep vine]

I’d join

[vocal terrace]

foot fungi

thats the name

[deep vine]

Cht nozzle on the ZANDVE or no

[naive swan]

i have done it

[vocal terrace]

?

[naive swan]

cht nozzle on the zandve

[dawn vapor]

?

[vocal terrace]

mayhem u need to watch birdie wing

thats what its from.

[sour prairie]

Yep and we have kids in here 🙂

Told you that before

[vocal terrace]

thats why talk here and not a general chat

[sour prairie]

You can send that to their dms

[vocal terrace]

also cause we don't have u deleting them msgs cause its the hidden spot before

its literally not anything wrong with it. its a golf anime song that sounds like a organ.

chatGPT just confirmed it as an organ for me.

[sour prairie]

We're not going to argue. If we see stuff we remove it.

[naive swan]

@sour prairie I’m surprised we are barely causing issues after almost 13k messages on this build log

[dawn vapor]

Burgo left the server apparently. @naive swan are you using any filament detector in your typez?

Also modified that part i pointed out earlier. Will post in my mod files in your repo

[naive swan]

I have the creality ones that came stock but I have never installed it

[dawn vapor]

I suck at mods so just elongated the bolt locations

[naive swan]

Oh nice

I was about to deal with it tonight

[dawn vapor]

Allows wiggle room

[naive swan]

Oh lol

[dawn vapor]

I had a hell of a time trying to reline the holes

[naive swan]

I will do it on the cad then

[dawn vapor]

Tinkercad is not friendly with this lol

[naive swan]

Yep f360 has some simple solutions

Just line up and do a extrude cut

GDSTIME Brushless Radial Blower Fan High Speed 24V DC Centrifugal Fan 120mm x120mm x 32mm https://a.co/d/7Ce6YVS

Getting ready for bed fans

https://github.com/VzBoT3D/VzBoT-Vz330/tree/master/Assemblies BOM and STL/RSCS

[dawn vapor]

Oh those fans are nice!

How many ?

[naive swan]

2

[mild hinge]

@naive swan

slowly working

[naive swan]

very nice

[mild hinge]

Im sure not as nice as your prints

[naive swan]

That looks pretty good to me, my red looks like crap unless I print it on my V0

[twilit edge]

Those 120mm blowers are insane. Huge volumes of air.

Kinda excited to see how that goes.

[deep vine]

Does the cht nozzle improve quality?

[sour prairie]

It improves flow

[naive swan]

Just flow

[deep vine]

Ohh, I don’t think I need that

[naive swan]

As you crank up the speed, you might

[naive swan]

Time to install the filament holder !

Bottom panel

And unfortunately all new mounts since I had some warping on the last set

Really tore up the belts

[twilit edge]

Yow.

[naive swan]

Time to perform heatset recovery

[dawn vapor]

What filament holder is that?

[naive swan]

Its turtles new one

[dawn vapor]

Chonky i like.

[naive swan]

yep i like it so far

[deep vine]

What speeds are you printing at?

[naive swan]

not sure, super slicer controls it so i can print at 11mm3s no matter what

[deep vine]

ahh!

you have just taught me something to cure one of my problems

[naive swan]

oh lol

im just copying Ellis

[deep vine]

yeah the link you sent me?

[naive swan]

https://ellis3dp.com/Print-Tuning-Guide/

https://github.com/AndrewEllis93/Ellis-SuperSlicer-Profiles

[deep vine]

cheers again dude 😄

[naive swan]

i need to add the 15mm3 for my v0 since that has a dragon with a cht nozzle so it can handle that flow

my revo can barely do 11mm3

[deep vine]

ive been doing some research about the start and end scripts in the slicer and printer config aswell

[naive swan]

yep thats alot of things to learn

[deep vine]

with the standard nozzle on my hf dragon, ive seen it reach 60mm3s

[naive swan]

very nice

.4 nozzle or higher?

[dawn vapor]

hmm where can i find that stl vengeful?

[naive swan]

pull it from the cad

oh

i got you

you will need to orient it

[deep vine]

Yeah when i had 0.4 nozzle in

[naive swan]

i may go for a goliath

[deep vine]

on the zandve?

[deep vine]

^

[naive swan]

Remember i have 2

[sour prairie]

Hmmm

We'll talk later

😆👍

[deep vine]

Oh yeah, also you wanted the hextrovort

[naive swan]

yep thats why

[deep vine]

48v and water cooling too?

[naive swan]

Probably not 48v but I am not opposed if it’s needed

Alignment is much better now

[sour prairie]

Question, why do you choose to go with the old stepper mounts?

[naive swan]

easier to integrate with the enclosure

[sour prairie]

I see

[naive swan]

Old pic

It’s currently on hydra so something’s have changed

Just swapping some parts right now

[naive swan]

@dawn vapor

fixed

just created an indexing pin and move the three hole faces using point to point move

[naive swan]

They are uploaded - https://github.com/Vprince099/ZANDVE

[naive swan]

Much cleaner now, just need a longer reverse Bowden

[dawn vapor]

Does the back hinge hit your steppers? I had to add a small cutout so i could put the hinge blocks down and not interfere with steppers.

[naive swan]

It just rests on them, but it works fine on the standard top hat

With XL it should be less of a problem

[deep vine]

Why does faster speed=less motor noise

[dawn vapor]

Its like diesel engines. They don’t like to idle. They like to go brrrr

[sour prairie]

Cause it sounds like you have stealthchop enabled

[deep vine]

i have the drivers in spreadcycle. stealthchop_threshold: 0

[sour prairie]

Oh oke

[deep vine]

should i use stealthchop?

[sour prairie]

I wouldn't recommend it

[deep vine]

okay, alot of people say that

[sour prairie]

It's because you lose torque at higher speeds and makes a lot of noise

[deep vine]

That makes sense

[deep vine]

what printers do you have?

obvioulsy atleast a zero G 😄

[sour prairie]

A secret ZeroG printer

Future project 😆

[deep vine]

Ohh awsome, looking foward

[deep vine]

When you say higher speeds, what would you class as to high for stealthchop

[sour prairie]

100mm/s

+-

[deep vine]

I’m not bothered about printing this fast, just want quiet printing that can go through the night

[dawn vapor]

But your getting quiet printing at higher speeds

Vengeful are you using the xl top on the type z?

[deep vine]

yeah, quieter from motors but the extra speed causes more noise through everything else

[dawn vapor]

Thats why you bolt it to the wall 😂

[deep vine]

I wish i could, but its hallow plaster board and my bedroom is right above haha

its carries noise so bad

[dawn vapor]

You could tune it so it plays a tune as it prints ?

[deep vine]

hahaha, a bedtime lulabye

[dawn vapor]

https://youtube.com/shorts/5VbcU6tpfhI?feature=share

Imagine those beats as print moves

[deep vine]

thats acctually class

[shell wolf]

when does the hydra version for the non plus drop 😂

[dawn vapor]

@naive swan what top hat is on your type z the xl or normal?

[naive swan]

Normal right now

[naive swan]

Non plus with hydra?

[shell wolf]

yeah

[naive swan]

@shell wolf technically it can already be done but the extrusions will be nonstandard sizes and the panels need to be sized after it’s put together

@shell wolf I will drop a an e5 pro version when I drop v1, slates for next weekend

[dawn vapor]

How much is that little guy

[naive swan]

99 was on sale

Windows Mini PC HIGOLEPC, Celeron Intel J4125 Mini Computers 8GB DDR4 128GB eMMC Fanless Mini PC Support Dual HDMI 4K, WiFi 6.0, BT 5.2 Home/Business Mini pc Windows 11 https://a.co/d/huvWrKE

Looks like it just went up

It was 149.99 with 50$ off coupon

Now it’s 169.99 with a 40$ off coupon

I just finished setting it up and it’s good so far

Kinda surprised

Glad I didn’t need to waste a windows key on it

And it’s a pro key so I can remote into it

Without a third party app

At 99 it’s a steal

I wish I could have gotten 2

[mild hinge]

Cheaper then some PI4

[naive swan]

Just need to make sure light burn runs well and I have a contender to replace all my Pi’s

[naive swan]

Exactly

The footprint on this is crazy

[mild hinge]

Yea

Mount it

[naive swan]

If I had more of these I would

But right now it’s going on my laser

[mild hinge]

I have pi mounted in m.2 case

[naive swan]

Just need to add a sd card for storage and I am good

[mild hinge]

Wth m.2 ssd drive

[naive swan]

I have one but I use it as external storage

[mild hinge]

Yea

[naive swan]

And this

[mild hinge]

Me using Aaron m.2

[naive swan]

Found one

[mild hinge]

Have 3 of them and 1 19in printed mack pi mount

Nice

I quit using SD cards due to failures

[naive swan]

its connected to the nas, but just in case i want some stuff locally

[mild hinge]

Yea

[naive swan]

Now we are talking

[mild hinge]

Nice ..leveling bed kicking my butt

belt broke from carriage

had to replace

[naive swan]

On a belted Z?

[mild hinge]

yep

[naive swan]

Oh snap this monitor has speakers

[naive swan]

Doesn’t look bad

[mild hinge]

yea mine have speakers too but not very good

dev 0.310mm when it was at 0.79mm

[naive swan]

Best I get is .26 to .29

2.6 to 2.9

[mild hinge]

better then me

[naive swan]

Lol

No it’s not

Lol

[mild hinge]

I saw the .26

[naive swan]

I missed typed lol

[mild hinge]

lol

[naive swan]

I have a big ole taco

[mild hinge]

nice

Trying to get it back in better level

[dawn vapor]

Wait that comes with windows pro already??

[mild hinge]

man I hate leveling beds

[naive swan]

Yes it does!

[deep vine]

Have you guys installed KAMP?

https://github.com/kyleisah/Klipper-Adaptive-Meshing-Purging

[shell wolf]

I stopped using adaptive mesh when I got beacon

[deep vine]

whould it not work with beacon?

[shell wolf]

It probably does, beacon is just so fast that I just scan the whole bed twice and it’s still much faster than normal probes (eg. Klicky)

[deep vine]

i wish i could use klicky

but have tap cnc

do you have 3DO nozzle cam?

[dawn vapor]

Installing today

[shell wolf]

I also have a CNC tap but the lack of magnets is keeping me from installing it

[dawn vapor]

@naive swan do you happen to know what the connector name is on the LDO steppers we got ? Not the side that plugs into stepper but the other side?

[naive swan]

Actually no I just cut them off, they were very similar to a DuPont but they were something else

[naive swan]

I do but i haven’t installed it yet

[shell wolf]

You made your own cable for this iirc?

[naive swan]

I think they did a release that allows you to use adaptive mesh on beacon now

[naive swan]

Lol I have the stuff to do it just haven’t tried yet

I’m thinking of running it on igus Chainflex

[dawn vapor]

Yeah i think thats what im going to do. I like the sheath on it.

[mild hinge]

I have the 3do nozzle am installed on voron sb

[deep vine]

It has a magnet, and the weight of the tool head makes its work fine

[deep vine]

Do you have to run a separate cable for the video feed?

[deep vine]

Does it work well and is it useful?

[naive swan]

Yes it’s own usb cable

[deep vine]

It would be good if the ebb36 could transmit this signal over can bus

[mild hinge]

Yes it has a usb cable and it works great

Pretty clear too

I need to see how to change the resolution since I have the 4k version

[naive swan]

Maybe it’s possible but all you need is a pair to transmit the data

[deep vine]

is it displayed on the mainsail or fluidd too?

[dawn vapor]

Any chance you could show us how you mounted the little pcb?

[mild hinge]

3do nozzle cam

the pcb I have mounted in a door latch with a 3007 fan and sb2040

Need to clean up wiring a bit

cam pcb is on top and sb2940 in the left with 2 pi heatsinks and a 3007 fan

Was thinking about removing the PCB and drilling some really small holes for the cam pcb to allow more heat to be released

and circulation

[naive swan]

Speed holes?

[deep vine]

You should be careful in case it’s a multi layer pcb

[deep vine]

Looks good quality tho

[mild hinge]

Oh I would remove the pcb 1st

@naive swan should have thought of a voron style hexcomb design for the top

https://www.printables.com/@salbang_230799/collections/596160

@deep vine ...the stealth burner door latch not the pcb itself

[mild hinge]

Testing voron ...taken down the end 5 pro

[dawn vapor]

Hey i made that! Or modified it anyways lol

Tinkercad gang

[mild hinge]

nice

[dawn vapor]

The honeycomb ones anyways

[mild hinge]

I have taken down the ender 5

so is so screwed

[dawn vapor]

You didn’t hurt it right

[sour prairie]

This build log has become more of a #general-chat channel than #general-chat

LOL

[mild hinge]

Dutch I apologize I'll talk about only build instead

[sour prairie]

lol dw m8

[deep vine]

Oh right sorry yeah, that makes sense

[deep vine]

Hope you get better soon @naive swan

[shell wolf]

RIP VENGEFUL GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN

[naive swan]

lol no

just having a hard time getting up to my office

where my printers are at

if this continues im building one of these

https://a.co/d/4FOcoCo

and straping it to one of these