#Custom AOA for Rose

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inland agate
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So we can’t reuse it

red oxide
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I mean we could have all the frames be that one frame

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It would be boring and static but it would work

inland agate
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True

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Since both of you are interested if one person wanted to do the party and the other does the bosses that could be an idea

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But let’s finish this first before we do other projects

hollow frost
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i finally got myself some time to try and work on the posing, and I noticed that her left arm is bent in a way that the model might not be able to handle properly, so I thought that instead of having it behind her head, she could keep it hovering over it like how elegant dancers do when they strike a pose on a key frame of the dance

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this makes it so that her arm isn't too bent, and her hand also serves to make the silhouette more visually complex

inland agate
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My brain can’t visualize it from just words

hollow frost
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something like this

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where she keeps her hand over her head

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though the other hand still keeps it stretched towards us

inland agate
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Doesn’t sound too bad, if her other hand is free it’d be cool to bring either the mask or the rose to hold

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Or if she needs both hands free maybe the rose could be in her mouth

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Also funny side thing, I was getting some Deja vu from the shot of rose and I was like “I swear I’ve seen this before”

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And now I’ve found it

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This shot of kat from a random thumbnail looks almost the exact same

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Just horizontally flipped

hollow frost
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no straight roads mentioned 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

inland agate
hollow frost
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3d models in general struggle with sharp bends bc it usually causes the biceps to clip through the arm

inland agate
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From these pictures

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Oh wait I kinda see it now

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On the PT outfit

hollow frost
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yeah

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cause the skin doesn't squish when compressed in the model

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alongside the clothes

inland agate
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Gotcha

hollow frost
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ofc if you don't mind it, then I wouldn't see it as a problem

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it's just me and the stupid brain of someone who can't help but point it out

red oxide
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Unfortunately there isnt any real way to fix that as far as I know, I thought it was barely noticable so it was fine

inland agate
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I don’t really care all that much but if you two want it changed then I’m not against it

red oxide
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Im good with either way

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Though if we are making changes Ill have to do them tomorrow because I have work in a bit

hollow frost
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was me mostly nitpicking. If both of you are fine with it, then I'm good too

inland agate
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Yeah I’m cool with it

hollow frost
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playing around with the posing and whatnot

inland agate
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The art is gonna be covering it anyway, the only people who are gonna see it are those using no art mod with a PT outfit

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Which is a very small pop and the model is slightly jank anyway

inland agate
ruby sparrow
inland agate
supple ibex
worthy kelp
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I tried it and found it looked a bit jank

hollow frost
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this took a lot longer than expected, but basically I kept most of the posing from what Power already did, and mixed in some dramatic head movement and adjusted the hands a tad

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and the arm

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i also tried posing her in a place where she didn't cover all the screen, but also didn't feel like she was too hidden

ruby sparrow
inland agate
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Most of the other ones still have an expression so it’s not too bad

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I do rly like seeing the costumes tho

ruby sparrow
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Right especially for other teammates also

inland agate
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inland agate
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Dig the pose tho, her off hand is in a perfect spot to be smelling the rose if we do that

hollow frost
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"Do you want to steal someone's heart? Do you want it done with elegance?"

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glad to hear it

inland agate
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“See guys you can eat a 20 patty burger every day and not get fat”

ruby sparrow
inland agate
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results may vary based on time in metaverse

ruby sparrow
inland agate
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She’s banned from gymnastics so gotta burn them calories somehow

inland agate
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It’s not bad, just different

hollow frost
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i just had it there bc it's open space

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we can change it though

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most of the other texts are coveres by whoever owns if

hollow frost
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so it shouldn't be a problem to have it top or mid

inland agate
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Let’s see how the background ends up looking but for now I’d prob wanna keep it bottom left

inland agate
# inland agate

Knew I was gonna be in the minority but not by this much 😭

hollow frost
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holy

inland agate
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Now I feel bad making power do all that extra work with the smile for it to be for just me

hollow frost
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well the one who asked it to be made at all was you, so in a way it should be up to your standards

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none of this would've happened not for you

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something I should mention, I just took a glance at the mod that adds tactica's animated cutins

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and depending on the direction we take with it, it really shouldn't be as bad as I thought it would be

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would the borders be animated too?

inland agate
inland agate
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Maybe we could use rose’s as a test run

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To see what looks good before doing everyone else’s later

hollow frost
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btw, just to put it out there, I'll wait for Power's input on what he thinks about the pose I made before I continue further

hollow frost
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that and both the hair and the back hand's position and posing are still subject to change, since i don't want the hair to possibly ruin any assets on top

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and the hand can change depending on what we want to do with it

inland agate
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Good news is that means the whole mask off/partly off/on idea could still be on the table since everyone’s gonna use the portrait anyway

inland agate
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@open frigate for the anims that are broken in R&V did you not touch them bc they’d be a huge hassle to do or are they impossible to fix

hollow frost
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im curious

inland agate
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If the anims in the real time cutscenes can be fixed, I’d ask power if they’d be interested in fixing them, and maybe for some of the general anims too since some of them still look goofy

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If they can’t, the backup plan would be to replace the cutscenes where the anims are really messed up (like the interrogation cutscene) with a storyboard esque version like in need for speed underground or gravity rush

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Which you’d be perfect for

hollow frost
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the storyboard thing

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I don't really know the details of how, but i read enough comics to have an idea of what to do

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the storyboard would replace the anime cutscenes, but I don't really see the limitation i set as being carved in stone

inland agate
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Oh damn then you’re already a few steps ahead

hollow frost
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i still haven't started bc we are still working on other things before thinking about the later stages

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but it's something id be willing to do

inland agate
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It’d prob need to replace the anime cutscenes, kasumis awakening and the interrogation

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Since ik those two are scuffed

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But it’s awesome to hear you’d be willing to do it

hollow frost
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hopefully it's possible

inland agate
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I'd assume you just replace the pre rendereds with them

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making the cutscenes themselves would be the hardest part by far

inland agate
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but seriously thank you again for doing this

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you and power both have done a rly good job and I cant wait to see how this turns out ❤️

red oxide
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Sorry I was at work

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(still am technically)

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I should definitely be able to do that pose @hollow frost

hollow frost
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if there's anything you'd want changed

red oxide
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Maybe have the hair be trailing from the direction she was spinning? Other than that no

inland agate
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she could just spin the other way

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have her go clockwise instead of counter clockwise

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hmm but the spin itself would look better counter clockwise

red oxide
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Yeah it would

inland agate
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oh you just mean her hair would curve the other way

red oxide
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Mhm

inland agate
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I guess

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don't rly care which ways it goes honestly, whichever looks more visually pleasing

red oxide
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I mean I suppose I could have it fly to that side when she stops spinning

inland agate
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just as a general rule of thumb focus on it looking good versus it being realistic

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if you have to stretch her physics to make it work then by all means do it

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as you've already done with the somersault

red oxide
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I try to avoid that with frames that will be seen for more than 1/4 of a second

inland agate
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Valid, try not to but if you need to then go for it

red oxide
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Yeah I saw this morning

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See y'all in a year when eos

inland agate
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If any game is gonna survive the curse it’s codm

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Been doing pretty well since 2018

inland agate
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Do you use the mod that removes the 2D artwork from AOA finishers?

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No

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welp

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ig im the only one still dark

ruby sparrow
inland agate
ruby sparrow
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Sometimes I use portrait sometimes I use no Portrait do it can use any outfit

inland agate
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Ah ok

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If only the models looked as good as the art

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Then you could get the best of both worlds

inland agate
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Or making a big background and panning the camera for certain shots

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Like where it first reveals joker in the casino

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Oh wait tho those would eat up a ton of storage

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Might have to be a Google Drive link

hollow frost
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im looking to upgrade my software. Right now, I'm limited to only 24 frames for any animation, no matter which one

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if I eventually get the better version I might be able to do something better

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not quite to the level of a full on animation, but who knows

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might be something fancier

red oxide
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What software do you use?

inland agate
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Hang on I’ll see if I can find it

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It’s the last 5 seconds

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People made fun of it because they basically were just dragging a JPG across a background

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But that might work to our advantage here

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That way you could only have to draw 1 shot or maybe only a few to act as “movement”

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It can be part of the art style

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That way it’s not as static as a normal comic cutscene but still not that much more effort

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So like for example in the intro when she’s running across the chandeliers you could pull the background of it, have that scroll and maybe have like 3/4 frames of her running almost like it’s stopmotion

inland agate
hollow frost
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it's a subscription, and honestly i think it's the best deal for me since the one time purchase needs to be done every time it gets updated

inland agate
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Seems like it’s $9 a month

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Tell you what, I could cover that while you make it

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But let’s finish this up first

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Unless there’s something in the ex sub that you need now

hollow frost
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no no, it hsould be fine

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let's not overcomplicate things

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i would be upgrading it either way eventually. You don't need to do it

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let's stick with how its'already working, it's fine as is

open frigate
inland agate
open frigate
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Uh, yeah, that probably won't work because of that

inland agate
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Wait actually

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There’s that mod that sets your name to whatever you tell it

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Could we just skip asking the player and use say normal as a default so the player doesn’t have to input anything

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Then once they get control they can change the difficulty back to whatever they want

open frigate
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Fortunately, the event that plays in the middle of the game doesn't ask the player for their name or difficulty

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So you could replace the events in the prologue with those (assuming that's possible)

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And then readd the pompt for name/difficulty later or before

inland agate
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Wait sorry I worded that in a really demeaning way my bad

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But we just replace that event with the later version then play the anime version over it?

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If you can readd it we can just plop it in when Sae talks to you for the first time

open frigate
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I don't know exactly where the prologue flowscript is, but for the later version, it's very likely in the scheduler

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So it would just be a matter of removing the "call events" and call the anime version instead

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I did the reverse for the beach event

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The prompt for name/difficulty are very likely in the flowscript too

inland agate
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Ok ok so at least it’s possible

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If we can find the flowscript for the prologue

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Good to know

hasty drum
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Hey Zylvos, sorry to jump into this conversation. But I have a question. Can the .usm file for the beach cinematic be reused for another day, and can new .usm files be created and requested?

open frigate
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I don't know if the number of usm files is hardcoded, but the one for the beach cinematic can be edited to something else entirely and called elsewhere through the scheduler

pearl apex
ruby sparrow
pearl apex
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True, i like using it for cleanliness and it’s less messier

hollow frost
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cause if I am to wait, I'd start doing some of the gyaru stuff to not fall too far behind

inland agate
hollow frost
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fair enough

inland agate
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I don’t think the gyaru stuff is needed yet since way more people use the default outfit, I’d prob do the cut in if you need something else unless you really wanna do the gyaru one first

ruby sparrow
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as much i love the gyaru (most my r&v is using it) mind is right people use default more often rn is the focus tho it would be cool,

worthy kelp
inland agate
ruby sparrow
inland agate
inland agate
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Ok so good news

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Seems like GB lets you upload mods up to 1.6GB now

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So we should be able to include as many config options as we want now

inland agate
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curious tho how are we gonna pull that off

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trying to make a rough draft of it but I cant put the moon behind the window

hollow frost
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sorry for not working on the mod. Got tangled with some other stuff

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should be able to make the previous sketch better and more detailed tomorrow

inland agate
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If I’m messaging a lot I just like to chat even if we’re not actively working on it

inland agate
red oxide
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So... From Sunday to Friday I will not be home so if you can get a lot of the art done while I'm away I will be able to implement it asap when I return

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I will be able to talk from my phone though

inland agate
red oxide
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Im really sorry but its family stuff... you know

inland agate
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I think L7 has a bigger workload anyway so its not too bad

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If he finishes the portrait in the meantime maybe he could start on the second background

red oxide
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Mhmm, it shouldnt take too much time for me to complete my part at the end

inland agate
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or maybe he starts on another thing in the meantime

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@hollow frost thoughts?

hollow frost
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i can do whichever really

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ill try the pose tomorrow, and if there's nothing else in the meantime, i can work on some secondary stuff

inland agate
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Would you wanna do that animated cut in thing, and if so do you think you could at least get the party members done by Friday

inland agate
red oxide
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If we can get the pose down tomorrow I can at least start on the animation Saturday morning

inland agate
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Is the somersault at the start locked in

red oxide
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I beleive so

inland agate
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Will the rose be part of the somersault

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Or is she gonna get it later

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Or are we excluding it altogether

red oxide
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Up to the artist

inland agate
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I’d def prefer to see it but I’ll leave it up to L7

hollow frost
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id be down to have it

inland agate
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Aight then I think you’d just need to add that in to the flip

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I can do a quick storyboard of what I’d be going for

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ok heres the idea

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shed start with it in her mouth like frame 1, then at about the spot in frame 2 she'd let go

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it'd hang in the air for a bit like in frames 3 and 4, then when she spins back in frame 5 she'd pick it back up

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and finish the spin as usual

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inland agate
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The 8k ultra hd art

red oxide
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Lmao I can do that

hollow frost
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i was thinking of keeping the rose in her mouth, mostly bc I wanted something to relate with her sister

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like, outside of appearance and general movement

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to kinda give the idea that both are, indeed, meant to be sisters with some similarities

inland agate
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Was thinking we could maybe merge the two, so that it still goes in the air, but she’d put it back in her mouth for the pose instead of holding it

inland agate
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But idk if that’s possible

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Prob not unless someone makes a mod for it

supple ibex
inland agate
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Here’s an early version of the 3d model version

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inland agate
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L7 is working on the portrait for it now

supple ibex
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Hmmkay!

inland agate
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Power was mainly just trying to get the face look nice so the pose itself is gonna change a bit

hollow frost
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made a few adjustments to the position and sharpened some ends. DIdn't do everything bc some of it will most likely be me needing to trace over what Power does to keep it consistent with the model

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i also adjusted the hair so it wouldn't clutter the top left too much

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which now allows us to use it for texts or the background art

inland agate
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wow that looks really good

hasty drum
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"this is a rose" i like that hahaha

hollow frost
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ill wait for power's input, since most of what needs to happen afterwards is mostly his modelling

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but anyways, is there anything else anyone would want changed?

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aside from the back hand that needs some work

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i cannot draw hands

inland agate
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and maybe move the closer hand towards her body a bit more so it looks more like she's gesturing to the player?

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if it doesnt look too bad

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aside from that it looks really good

red oxide
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I like it

inland agate
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whos gonna go first

hollow frost
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and also to have more of her shown on her screen, and not tuck most of her away to the right

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so it at least allows her to be both on the right and center

inland agate
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fair enough

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that spots a good compromise

hollow frost
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i can still make those changes though

inland agate
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if you think it looks better as is then keep it

hollow frost
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alrighty then

hollow frost
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ill see what i can do

inland agate
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unless you need to do that anyway

hollow frost
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got some detailing done

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at least itll make rendering later much easier since i know where stuff goes

red oxide
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Looks really good, I'll be able to do more input in 6 hours, don't know if you will be up or wanting to do anything then

hollow frost
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i might be

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its good though, no rush

inland agate
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Want some other opinions here, but do you think it’d look better if her hand was a little more open

hollow frost
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i wouldn't be opposed to it. I just tried making a more elegant looking hand that isn't too tense

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at least in comparison to the hand I made in the shard

inland agate
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Maybe an in between then would look good, not as open as the shard but a little more open then this hand

hollow frost
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i might be able to do that

inland agate
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There might be too many config options tho so we may have to limit it to just default and alt bangs black if we do

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May also run a poll to see if that’d even get use

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Actually wait I’m gonna redo it

inland agate
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If we include a maskless option, which version would you use?

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With Mask

worthy kelp
summer helm
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Personally I was planning to do ||Maruki's|| palace with no masks

worthy kelp
inland agate
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I’d love to do that but then there’d be way too many options

worthy kelp
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Okay then yeah no sorry I gotta vote masked

inland agate
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Or if it’s roughly equal so no preference

opal adder
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Are we talking about Rose wearing the mask or holding the mask?

inland agate
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Wearing it

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She’s not gonna be holding it in either version

opal adder
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Thanks!

hollow frost
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power outage made me lose quite a lot of what I did

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so uh

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im gonna go for a break and resume this tomorrow

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cause all my motivation went down the drain

sudden quiver
worthy kelp
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Ouch

sudden quiver
inland agate
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Truly a fate worse than death

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At least power knows roughly what to do with the anim now

hollow frost
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im waiting for my energy to come back, but hopefuly it was saved on the could

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csp has that feature

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i say I lost it bc it usually doesn't work

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but i might be struck with good fortune

inland agate
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Fingers crossed

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And based on the poll so far we should prob just forgo the maskless option

inland agate
hollow frost
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forgot to say that it's back

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it worked but i still lost a biot

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at least it's not everything

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which is better than nothing

inland agate
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Ah shit that sucks

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Sorry

hollow frost
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eh its alright

inland agate
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If you wanted to get started on the cut ins you may suddenly find your pockets are a bit heavier

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nudge nudge wink wink

hollow frost
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which portraits?

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i was just taking a break from the posing really

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doing something that's heavy on proportions and posing is really mentally taxing

inland agate
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Prob just regular kasumi for now

hollow frost
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oh the crit cut ins yeah?

inland agate
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Yeah

hollow frost
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if so, I really don't know what I'd do, since the original is already very solid

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but I can try my hand on something

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do you have a certain "feeling" you want her to have in mind?

inland agate
hollow frost
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in that case I might have something in mind

inland agate
hollow frost
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hmm mkay

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honestly, outside of maybe akechi, most of them show a certain battle prowess through their eyes in the cutins

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im not sure how smug would fit with kasumi of all people, considering she's not really one to be like that (at least imo)

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i can try to lean more to confidence

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a controlled sense of agression, if you will

inland agate
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Since we know a lot of the PT are a lot more reserved in the real world then they are in combat

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From the dialogue that’s what I thought was implied, plus she has that more “bold” style compared to sumire

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If anyone else has another opinion I’d love to hear it

hollow frost
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i thought of that boldness a bit too

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it's a weird mix where, at least what i remember, Kasumi is bold but quiet

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at least according to the coach

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the normal cut in had her with her chin lifted

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i was thinking of doing Kasumi's with her chin lowered, but with her eyes silently daring her opponent to try anything

worthy kelp
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I always got a bit of a like... cheeky vibe from her
Has a lot of bold opinions and likes to tease but also probably isn't the first to speak up, waiting for someone to slip

hollow frost
inland agate
inland agate
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As long as it’s distinct from sumires and you give her some personality I’ll prob like what you cook up

hollow frost
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alrighty then

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ill start tomorrow since I was given the first warning today to not do anything that requires time

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or i might start sketching something light

inland agate
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Could you just save often or does that eat up too much storage

hollow frost
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i could save often

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i just forget to do that

worthy kelp
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Always pictured something with a cheeky wink but that could be just me
Like Dorothea vibes but something more action-y (cuz this is just a talk portrait)

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hollow frost
worthy kelp
inland agate
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Good news is the cut ins are easier to make and switch via config so making multiple isn’t out of the question

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Prob just start with one for now tho

hollow frost
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ill do it like I did with all other portraits. Make it as modular as possible to be easy to make others

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start with the original, maybe go with alt bangs next

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then gyaru since ppl like it

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then move on from there

inland agate
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Long hair already has a unique one

worthy kelp
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Prioritising the alt bangs and original stuff first makes the most sense
When it comes to gyaru hit me up I've got money to support and a vision OrangeSalute

inland agate
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Oh damn bros getting more dough

hollow frost
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ngl i feel kinda bad having ppl offer money to me but yeah i gotta survive somehow

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ill make sure to hit you up whenever i have the opportunity to start doing those

worthy kelp
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tbh I just see it as supporting creative work which I think is extra important in these times

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that and I love love seeing the development process

inland agate
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I want to pay you so there’s nothing to feel bad about

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It’s also worth significantly more to you than it is for me

worthy kelp
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They call it disposable income for a reason FemCYay
I always sort out my rent/work travel stuff etc at the start of the month

inland agate
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Smart

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And supporting someone that makes really good work makes me feel a lot better about spending the money

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We gotta get bro out from being yusuke

hollow frost
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i really appreciate it

worthy kelp
inland agate
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But little does he know I’m secretly madarame

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Imma take all his art make copies of it then sell it for a gazillion dollars

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Muahaha

hollow frost
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my name on the other mod i work on btw

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i am actually yusuke

worthy kelp
inland agate
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My moms kinda dead

wind mango
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I saw some people on twitter getting excited about my annshiho mod

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Thats a really nice feeling

sudden quiver
inland agate
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Any extra story is a W in my book

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@hollow frost here’s my very scuffed rough draft

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And power made this version to go touch it up

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Basically I wanted the “every” and “has it’s” to use a really fancy font, like cursive

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Rose would be colored red and use a similar font but not the exact same

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And thorns should look like a plant stem with similar coloring and maybe some thorns on the text itself, though probably a thinner font then what I used

hollow frost
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mkay i think I can see the vision

inland agate
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We could either use that rose as a background or that color corrected thing power sent

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This

hollow frost
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i guess I could try to design a rose too if needed

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oh yeah

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i remember that

wind mango
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Sorry for the off topic lol

inland agate
inland agate
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@hollow frost here’s roughly what I’d want for the two cut ins:
Rose: normal, long hair, alt bangs and gyasumi
Already talked about what we wanted the cut in to look like, but make it assuming it’ll be animated in the future, in fact if it’s possible maybe animating that one now and keeping the others static would be good
Sumire: normal and long hair variants
Should def be more cheerful than kasumi but still a bit determined
If possible maybe show some way that they’re connected in their cut ins (like having them face opposite ways or something, may be hard to do)
Also make assuming they’ll be animated, if possible animate now

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Just remembered too idk if it’s a bug or not but in a lot of her convos when she’s listening to someone she looks really pissed

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So it’s be funny to extend that to the gameplay

red oxide
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Okay I'm alive again

inland agate
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welcome back chat

hollow frost
inland agate
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ok sounds good, on second thought im curious if having her look left would be weird but lets see

red oxide
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A lot of them look to the left

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Should be fine

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Joker's looks to the left too iirc

inland agate
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oh yeah now that you mention it

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for some reason I thought they all looked right

inland agate
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If we include a maskless option which version would you use?

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With Mask

red oxide
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Honestly more for no mask than I expected

inland agate
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Let’s def not do it then if that few people want it

hollow frost
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just so I can properly check the sizes, does anyone know where the battle cut ins are located in the files?

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im going to try and work on it as much as I can

inland agate
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I can check rq

hollow frost
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at least until I have to go to an event on my uni

hollow frost
worthy kelp
hollow frost
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found it

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damn it's a much higher res than I thought

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3840x1536

worthy kelp
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Atlus out here preparing for people to play on Cinema screens

hollow frost
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yeah i have no idea why

inland agate
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Makes sense actually

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4k is 3840 x 2160

hollow frost
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they go from 1024x1024 to something beyond pixels in my monitor dark

inland agate
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And it covers the whole screen horizontally

hollow frost
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oh yeah that's true

inland agate
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So that’s just normal 4k quality

worthy kelp
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I mean still I'm pretty sure that Playstation couldn't do 4K until the 5, can't speak for Xbox
so it's some impressive future proofing for the PC either way

inland agate
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At least royal did

worthy kelp
inland agate
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The xb1x could also do 4k but p5 wasnt on there until the series x

worthy kelp
inland agate
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Surprised they were able to do that since most games used upsscaling

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But it was a ps3 game so I guess it’s not that shocking

inland agate
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Would you be able to up that, ideally as high as possible but it may look weird if it goes too high

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So shoot for 60, but at least 30 would be nice

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Is that possible

hollow frost
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usually animations are 24 frames a second

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but that really depends

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sometimes they work on twos which cut the animation to 12 frames

inland agate
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Same with P3R

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Oh but you’d be limited to 24 frames anyway right, nvm then

hollow frost
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it would be very weird for an anime animation to go anywhere beyond 24 frames

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it's less about the smoothness and more abt the style

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it would genuinely look weird to have it at 60fps

inland agate
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Well maybe not for anime (bc I don’t know of any) but I’ve seen high fps movie clips and I kinda prefer those to the 24 fps versions

ruby sparrow
inland agate
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But I won’t make you do them since nobody else would like it

hollow frost
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basically

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let the mind fill the gaps

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and 60 fps is nearly triple the work

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for something 24 does nicely

hollow frost
hollow frost
ruby sparrow
hollow frost
inland agate
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The hobbit being one of them

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Idk if it’s all versions or just some but it was recorded at 48 fps

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Anime I can’t speak for

hollow frost
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24fps is mostly for the style and work efficiency

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it's not "smooth", but it is also not choppy

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it's some wanky work of the mind's imagination to fill in the gaps in a way that makes everything flow without overworking everyone to make 60 hand drawn frames every second

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anime and any other 2d hand drawn animation will be 24 frames or less

hollow frost
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so doing the cutin on 60 fps when a result similar to it could be achieved with 24 would usually just be more work with little payoff

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and this without considering like, the way which we see it

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tvs and monitors have different refresh rates and all that wonky technicals

inland agate
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Speaking of which did you have like an early draft for the cut ins, not trying to push you but I’m excited to see what it looks like

hollow frost
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ill get started tomorrow

inland agate
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all good, remember we’re in no rush

red oxide
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Biggest problem for 60fps is that it would have a HUGE file size

inland agate
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Maybe 500-750MB

red oxide
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Going to cry

inland agate
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Guess you got more stuff to make

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Chop chop

red oxide
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This one is waiting 3 or 4 weeks

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Need to finish rose aoa

inland agate
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Would be hyped but it’s mona

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All my homies hate Mona

ruby sparrow
inland agate
pearl apex
inland agate
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I may have another project for you after this if you'd be interested

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basically it'd be improving a lot of kasumis general anims since a lot of them are either really jank, look goofy or straight up broken

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stuff like running in both overworld and metaverse, taking cover, drinking coffee, etc

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would you be able to/down to tackle that

ruby sparrow
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I thought it more because the model bone or something alike ?

While it is replace by Kasumi isn't it still base using joker ?

inland agate
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especially the ones where she interacts with stuff

ruby sparrow
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I'm just taking a guess
Cuz there was one time where gyarusumi model is boorked for holding item like umbrella and yoshida sign lmao

inland agate
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the anims themselves can def be changed, the walking/sprinting already did get changed

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I think you'd also have to change the anim of the object itself for stuff like that

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he said eyes are impossible but thats about it

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was more asking if power would even be up to the idea, otherwise all of this is moot

inland agate
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On second thought this may be harder than I thought since you’d need a lot of event editing for stuff like the coffee cup or the yoshida sign

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So either you’d have to stick to just the field anims or you’d have a lot of work ahead of you

inland agate
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It’s possible to change the party icons right

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Both the ones in battle and the menu where it shows all your members

hollow frost
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it is, but iirc it is also 3d modeling

inland agate
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It is?

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Huh

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They’d be cool to see but alas that and you already have a lot on your plate

hasty geyser
red oxide
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Oh if someone can show me the file I can do it

inland agate
inland agate
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one sec let me compress it

open frigate
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A small heads-up about the PLG file for the sprite background during battle: it is very (very) annoying to edit, keep it for last

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There's some kind of rule where the border of the mesh must be made of two layers of vertices with triangle faces between them

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Even with that, it interacts weirdly with some shapes, I've had to test it in game like it's some event editing

inland agate
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Idk why they wouldn’t just make it a dds file like all the other art

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Must be why there’s no separate version for the fistfight

inland agate
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L7 sent this as a draft for kasumis cut in

wind mango
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PEAK

hollow frost
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yeah i went with a less "focused" and more of a "you are dead"

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as per MindKrafter's wishes

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and I need to fix her left eye

inland agate
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love what you did with it

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looks like it was inspired by jokers but different enough to be its own thing

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and you gave her some personality

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its so peak 🥹

hollow frost
inland agate
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shhh youre not supposed to say that

hollow frost
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uh

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yeah

inland agate
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just pretend like it was all part of the plan

hollow frost
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will do

inland agate
hollow frost
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discord quality giving me goosebumps with how good it looks

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inland agate
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4k go brr

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does this version load for you

hollow frost
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yeah it does

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i do have an idea of what you were talking about

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and yeah, it's close

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so I suppose my very much intentional joker-ish thing actually works

inland agate
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Wdym

hollow frost
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it's nothing

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im just glad it works on our favor

red oxide
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Looks so good

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Just make sure the eyes are shown when the cutin thing crops it

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Gaaah I hate not being able to help with anything for a bit I'm so sorry

inland agate
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its all good

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life happens

inland agate
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damn we have almost 40 people in here now

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most of them are stalkers dark

ruby sparrow
inland agate
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I see a lot of ppl voting in the polls but nothing beyond that

ruby sparrow
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Eh lessen the text getting buried

inland agate
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I kinda like chatting tho even if nothings going on

ruby sparrow
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Fair nuf

inland agate
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Would be nice if I could pin stuff so that people could see the progress without it getting buried by the messages

ruby sparrow
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it be nice also lol

worthy kelp
hollow frost
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i've got myself some time to continue working on her cut in, and out of curiosity, should I change anything about it?

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i probably asked this yesterday, but it's more to make sure

inland agate
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Maybe make part of her ponytail show on the back if there’s space for it, otherwise no

hollow frost
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was the plan. For the first rough sketch I just wanted the eyes at least show what I wanted it to

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ill work on it and continue sending progress

worthy kelp
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Tbh need to put thought into what I want for a gyasumi version of that later

inland agate
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Do you just wanna skip the long hair/gyasumi version for now then since sailor is gonna comm a different version anyway

worthy kelp
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Yeah I was gonna get a cut-in, bustup and a wanted so tbh focus on the default
and take breaks Naonod

hollow frost
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as a very healthy human being

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on good weeks

hollow frost
worthy kelp
ruby sparrow
inland agate
ruby sparrow
inland agate
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But I doubt he will dark

worthy kelp
ruby sparrow
hollow frost
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but it's at night

inland agate
ruby sparrow
inland agate
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Real

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It basically is a j slur

worthy kelp
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And you pay THEM to do it

inland agate
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I pay him to make this and he pays his uni to take classes

ruby sparrow
worthy kelp
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Welcome to the team for Persona 5: Driving All Evening

inland agate
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So just makoto

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Bc she’s the only one old enough to do it and haru would kill us all

ruby sparrow
ruby sparrow
inland agate
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Idk if I like the idea of a ghost driving us around

ruby sparrow
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Oh tru

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Speaking of striker didn't there was a project about Kasumi as MC for striker or I'm just tripping

inland agate
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Not that I know of

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If there was strikers is extremely hard to mod so I’d be suprised if it ever happened

worthy kelp
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it explains why P1 and P2 characters aren't back because Haru accidentally ran them over

ruby sparrow
worthy kelp
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you'd be more likely to see it for Q2 I'd say, since there's already a Sumire over Haru and Black Mask over Base Akechi

ruby sparrow
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Plus if I recall there is Crazy taxi game soon so model import shouldn't be big trouble. In theory.

Cuz usually car game is not that complex

inland agate
worthy kelp
ruby sparrow
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"hey it's not my fault u guys want me to drive" - rose probably

worthy kelp
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"look if you knew what happened in that other universe you'd get it"

ruby sparrow
inland agate
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Please if any of the stalkers are reading this and know how to make multiple AOAs into a thing we need that

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It’d be the greatest joke ever

ruby sparrow
inland agate
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Randomized

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Because L7 is making a second background at some point, and we also thought of another that we might do at some point

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Where there’d be a really small chance for it to be one of the truck hitting her

ruby sparrow
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Lmao

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That's foul

inland agate
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It’d be so funny if you didn’t tell anyone it was there so after like 50 hours of gameplay it just happens and takes you off guard

worthy kelp
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Like that one Withered Foxy random mod but with the car crash scene

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and then play on the Alt Kasumi Twist mod

inland agate
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Sort of but not exactly

ruby sparrow
inland agate
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It’d only replace her AOA not just happening randomly

inland agate
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Oh even better

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Give her nightmares about it

worthy kelp
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I applaud that mod but my heart could never play it yukiLaugh

ruby sparrow
ruby sparrow
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As far I kno

worthy kelp
inland agate
worthy kelp
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Change one of the social stat book texts to an isekai manga

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"The protagonist was hit by a truck, huh? That doesn't sound like a cheerful start."

inland agate
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Fake Igor gonna be holding in his laughter after he says “it seems you were killed”

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When akechi shoots her

worthy kelp
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"Doesn't that sound familiar-- I mean, uh"

ruby sparrow
inland agate
hollow frost
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yup she mad

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worthy kelp
inland agate
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Its so peak holy

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also fyi I dont mind the outfit being in the frame at all but if it is you might have to make a white version too

hollow frost
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oh its fine

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i just need to color pick and boom

inland agate
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fair

hollow frost
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the black shading would be there no matter what happened

inland agate
hollow frost
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its the style

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gosh i love flat shading so much

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anyways, ill make it dds and send it over

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idk if i have to add a background

inland agate
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I think it depends if you have colorful cut ins or not

hollow frost
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here be png

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inland agate
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only small request, could you maybe get rid of those sharp edges on the left

hollow frost
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sure

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just a sec

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on the hair or her outfit

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did those bc all of them have it

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stylistic choice

inland agate
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oh huh youre right

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maybe they stick out a little more with no background

hollow frost
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heres without them

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at least the hair ones

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and yeah, without the bg everything is really noticable

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even more so with the white outline of the png

inland agate
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I think the little strands of hair could work if they were bigger

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just looks weird because its so small

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hows it look with a red background

hollow frost
inland agate
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was looking at the other cut ins to see how they did the edges

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they def do have them but theyre a lot more subtle

hollow frost
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those on the left are bigger bc i personally don't like how much open space is near the eye

inland agate
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there wont be that much in game

hollow frost
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yeah that's true

inland agate
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at least I dont think

hollow frost
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should i remove it or make it shorter?

inland agate
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the bottom ones should be shorter, the top one either make it into a bigger strand of hair or remove, whichever you'd think looks better

hollow frost
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better?

inland agate
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Do the same to that last little long strand on the far right

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then itll be perfect

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sorry if that last ones a little nitpicky

hollow frost
inland agate
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Mwah

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perfect

hollow frost
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without the bg

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hope it works

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i shall now get something to eat

inland agate
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lets give it a try

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and excellent work

hollow frost
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btw it's on battle/cutin

inland agate
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found it but I replaced it with the wrong mod on my first try

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and the second try 😭

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ok its not changing for me

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can someone else try and see if it works for them

hollow frost
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that's weird

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maybe i got the wrong file

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or maybe it's a priority thing on the mod

inland agate
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ok I finally got it working

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my BG is messed up bc of other mods

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but it looks really good

hollow frost
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are those

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mini kasumis

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inverted

inland agate
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I believe so yes

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if you dont have a BG color it does that

hollow frost
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i had my mouse on top of it

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boo

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but yeah i think it looks solid

inland agate
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I might throw that gradient color over my version

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since I need a new BG anyway

hollow frost
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have fun with it

wind mango
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That's so peak

summer helm
hollow frost
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i just now got into that artistic trance state of overanalyzing my work, and I think I sharpened her eyes too much

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like, they don't exactly feel like it's kasumi

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is that just me?

inland agate
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I mean now that you mention it maybe? But it’s a pretty minor thing

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If you wanna touch it up go ahead but it’s fine as is

hollow frost
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once i get back home i might try to touch it up a notch

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idk i just feel like the expression feels too little like kasumi

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not like she wouldn't be capable of looking like this

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i might take something out of makoto's stare where it's less "expressive" but still feels dangerous

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yeah i let the "death stare" shape too much the eye. The roundness on top should not be this sharp

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mkay i have quite a lot to do once i return home

inland agate
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Are you gonna make her eyes more rounded

hollow frost
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yeah

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im going to make a few changes to make it more kasumi

inland agate
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Gotcha, though I’m a lot happier you took the too much personality route versus the not enough

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That’s a much better problem to have imo

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Sadly joker is too much of a blank slate and normal Kasumi we know very little about so the more flare you give her the better

tame zealot
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sounds great

tame zealot
inland agate
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she went through mitosis

inland agate
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I think one of the copies got messed up tho

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It has like more red hair and no mole

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Idk what happened there