[P5R PC] Royal Restoration Project (SPOILERS)

[golden frost]

if i scroll up, theres a few events of same major id
i...think theyre didney worl i mean destinyland hangouts?

im not sure because i do not generally do non-rankup hangouts LMAO

ok yeah theyre just fucking destinyland hangouts lol

[runic bough]

yeah I feel like these are used

just no one really sees these on average because they skip non essential confidant events where possible

[golden frost]

i kinda wish there was some incentive for doing hangouts at max rank, like maybe if you have matching persona it gains exp proportional to any confidant points you get
obv out of scope here, just a thought

[golden frost]

because its on my brain again (thanks rtgame), do we actually know how to extract strikers cemetery field and convert it to royal field

[vital harbor]

can't we just assign it a new id and call it?

[golden frost]

well first we need to extract it from strikers 😭
considering its just for an event we could probably be lazier than if it were a field the player could actually walk around in but that said im not familiar with making royal fields either

[golden frost]

im trying to find what font they use for the grave but all the online font finder websites are shitting themselves at the sight of kanji on a darkish background

ugh im just gonna grab whatever vaguely close one i can find

[golden frost]

oh, i guess i also need a font that has the specific kanji i need 🫠

or i guess i could also try writing it myself...with a mouse...

nvm found one
wanna make the text look more like a real relief but that be how it look for now

[golden frost]

made it darker for readability and also tried to make the bottom of the headstone blend a little better

[vivid lichen]

I think adding the slightest bit of grain to the headstone will also help it blend

[golden frost]

like this?

[slow wren]

Okumura was so desperate for more money he sold Akiko's burial plot to the Hasegawas

I was looking at that scene again and idk how the sky background works. Or the shadows

[golden frost]

lul

(i just kinda edited the dds wisteria extracted before idk what all else needs to be done)

[vivid lichen]

oh yeah that looks good

[golden frost]

so uhh i literally just fucking scrolled to a random point in my msg dump while doing something else and by complete coincidence landed on fini_152_005 which has dialogue for the kamoshida backstory events

what are the odds

(its copypasted for the other will seed fields in that palace so i assume itd play after seeing all 3, or at least after 490_020)

none of the others have similar such dialogue for the record

[slow wren]

This was unknown before, huh?

[golden frost]

idk first im hearing of it

id believe you if you said it was

[slow wren]

I don’t think it was known

[vital harbor]

yeah never heard of it

I suppose there's more to discover in the persona 5 seas

do we all have shit sleep schedules

it is 4 am

[golden frost]

i know i do :D

[slow wren]

Sexual assault… He is unbelievable!
This line feels like a weird atlus localization moment given how far in the story this is lol

[vital harbor]

they clearly just quickly translated it lol

[slow wren]

How come that line doesn’t have a speaker?

[golden frost]

tbf it is scrapped (but also was written for royal meaning they already knew the og plot)

[vital harbor]

maybe something more specific like "rape" might be more impactful

[golden frost]

only if youd get that from the jp text, i wouldnt want to change the meaning on accident

[slow wren]

idk if he does that in the memory but the point is clearly expressing disgust whereas it comes across like surprise

[vital harbor]

i'm not sure what happens in that flashback anyway

[slow wren]

IIRC he gets gropey before being stopped, but then he realizes he has the power to go farther

[vital harbor]

ew

maybe something more like "Sexual assault... Disgusting!" idk

[slow wren]

idk to what degree we should modify things if Atlus did localize it (aside from blatant mistakes like typos)

[slow wren]

yes of course we do, though it's only 1:30 for me
I've been getting better about sleeping earlier… but not tonight!

[vital harbor]

ah pacific time

the only REAL time is EASTERN time

[slow wren]

if any time were to be ascribed that way it'd be UTC

[golden frost]

looking at this again, the "ugh how many more of these are there" makes me think it is meant for specifically after 490_020

[slow wren]

I added some events to the sheet we had discussed but weren't there. I also cleaned up the tab for non-event things though it's still rough.

I also wondered if we should add this, which I think would replace e108_101. I think it's meant to be Joker hearing Arsene's voice(?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXq-7SzgcLI

oh, the used version is voiced but this one isn't. so we could transfer Sojiro's existing lines ig

[fickle anchor]

yup. i think the lines match 1 to 1 up until where the used one ends

[slow wren]

I tried moving the lines over but 480_070 doesn't have an AWB/ACB and just renaming the other one didn't work so idk what needs to be changed

[golden frost]

didnt work how, did it crash or smth or were the lines ordered wrong

[slow wren]

the dialogue audio just didn't play

I tested with singleword and that still worked though

Is there even a way currently to make audio files for new events?

[golden frost]

flips to the bmd for this event
uhh do any of these tags actually call shit

[slow wren]

no but I changed them to

I made them like in the used one

[golden frost]

copying acb and awb should Just Work so idk whats up

[slow wren]

maybe something in the script needs to be changed?

[golden frost]

the alternate way is you extract and convert the audio and then stick it in via ryo but idk how you feel about that

[slow wren]

ok never mind I figured it out

dumb thing with how the switch layerfs modding works
it has to be in SOUND not SOUND_E/SOUND

[golden frost]

i forgot you are a switch user and cannot just drop things into p5ressentials/cpk/peepeepoopoo/etc

[slow wren]

I mean it mostly works the same

shrimple as 🦐

actually wait this stupid event does the thing where they don't animate any of the bustups
so I will fix that

they changed "Hmph..." to "Hm..." literally unplayable

[slow wren]

ok I think I got it all working, too tired to record it again tho

I volunteer to add different expressions and singleword lines to unused events that lack them
it is changing things a little, but it definitely is more a result of things being unfinished, like Okumura being inside his chair which I assume we'll fix. The fact that this was copied from a used event but didn't have the bustups or cutins demonstrates that.

[slow wren]

I'm going to remove the alternate versions of where the Twin Wardens first ask about going places with them. They're basically the same as the used ones but worse, and they mention "you've just changed the heart of one bad teacher" which implies this would be before Madarame, so it'd require changing more around. Unlike the above "alternate version of used event", I don't think there's anything novel or interesting about them

[golden frost]

@vital harbor

[golden frost]

i dont feel like forwarding the whole thing

[tall lintel]

inch string…

i always wondered if they intended for us to actually see shiho visits seeing as ann talks about them so much

[fickle anchor]

who's that sexy kisser of ladies in the screenshot

[runic bough]

who could say

[slow wren]

So, I want to try adding a couple of my minor changes to the mod now, but I need to know- how does OptionalModFiles work, and how do I "hook" that into the scheduler? Also, is every scene going to be in OptionalModFiles?

Let's start with e480_070 I guess. This one has the following aspects:

• changed BMD (to include voicelines and bustups)
• added audio files (copying voicelines from used event)
• needs to replace e108_101 in the schedule

how would I integrate this into the current structure of the mod?

[golden frost]

the folder name for config options is arbitrary, it (or a file/subfolder in it) just needs to be passed to an api function for crifs hook, bf/bmd emulator, or whichever other mod(s) you need the api for
traditionally this would be handled through c# code though if you dont need code for anything else then remix toolkit works just as well

[slow wren]

can you give me, like, a mini-tutorial using my example (doesn’t need to be super detailed)
Like where should I put the sound? Where should I put the msg and the dummy BMD? Where do I edit the schedule?

[golden frost]

hold on i just came out of binging a game lemme get my brain back into modding mode

where is 108_101 normally called

as in which file

[slow wren]

uhh
probably the april scheduler. It's when you're leaving Shujin with Sojiro

[golden frost]

ok i found it in sdl04_10_PM_B in (naturally) scheduler_04

so for the bf edit, youd make a folder in OptionalModFiles named, lets go with ArseneVoice, and then i thiiiiink since its just one bf being edited you can get away with an AddFile call to bf emulator api and no dummy file?
so the file placement should i think look like

  - OptionalModFiles
    - ArseneVoice
      - BF
        - scheduler_04.flow```
where `scheduler_04.flow` contains your edits, aka
```void sdl04_10_PM_B_hook()
{
    CALL_EVENT(107, 2);
    CALL_EVENT(489, 30);
    CALL_EVENT(408, 70);
    CALL_EVENT(108, 2);
    CALL_EVENT(480, 80);
    return;
}```

[slow wren]

fwiw I only edited the BMD, not the BF

[golden frost]

and then in the remix toolkit config.yaml, under settings youd put

      type: toggle
      default: true
      name: Arsène Voice
      category: Plot Additions
      description: some description of what this event is```
and under actions you put. ok this is part of why i need to finish unfucking the config but i think when ive cleaned it up itd be
```    - using: '{BF_API}'
      if: arsenevoice
      run: AddFile
      with:
        - '{ModDir}/OptionalModFiles/ArseneVoice/scheduler_04.flow'
        - SCHEDULER/scheduler_04.bf```

[golden frost]

yes but you need to actually call the event which takes bf editing

[slow wren]

oh right the scheduler bf

[golden frost]

unless you want to just directly replace 108_101 with 480_070 which i guess would also work

[slow wren]

where do I put the BMD then though

and sound

[golden frost]

bmd emulator stuff is basically identical to bf emulator stuff because i just copypasted between them so probably something like

    [insert other options here]
    - id: arsenevoice
      type: toggle
      default: true
      name: Arsène Voice
      category: Plot Additions
      description: some description of what this event is

actions:
    [insert other actions here]
    - using: '{BMD_API}'
      if: arsenevoice
      run: AddFile
      with:
        - '{ModDir}/OptionalModFiles/ArseneVoice/e108_101.msg'
        - event_data/message/e100/e108_101.bmd```
where the file `e108_101.msg` has copypastes of the lines unique to 480_070

...though youd also need to copypaste the evt for 480_070 and register it with crifs api, so i guess add
```    - using: '{CRIFS_API}'
      if: arsenevoice
      run: AddProbingPath
      with:
        - '{ModDir}/OptionalModFiles/ArseneVoice'```
under actions, and place the renamed 480_070 evt at `mod folder/OptionalModFiles/ArseneVoice/CPK/event_data/message/e100/e100/e108_101.evt` (and likewise with the ecs)

as for audio. actually wait if im understanding right then youre just using voiceclips from 108_101 except for the bit thats unique to 480_070, yeah?

[slow wren]

yeah I made a new AWB that is just copied from the used event and then the new lines just use singleword

[slow wren]

I didn't mean to indicate I wanted to do this whoops

[golden frost]

[slow wren]

I wrote "then" as being subsequent to my own message not yours. welp

[golden frost]

i was about to say if you were replacing 108_101 then you probably wouldnt have to do anything, but if youre editing 480_070 instead then yeah just chucking a copy of the awb in a cpk subfolder and using crifs api would also work
(alternatively you could use ryo i guess but i dont think thered be much advantage to doing so)

[slow wren]

@golden frost sorry to keep asking you but basically I just want to know, in which directories do I put the modified 480_070 BMD and the new sound files?
It all works as its own mod, I just don't understand this API stuff to integrate it into this one. (if you can point me to a good documentation/tutorial that'd be helpful)

[golden frost]

if youre just copypasting the awb (and have it set up as a config option like above) then mod folder/OptionalModFiles/ArseneVoice/CPK/SOUND/EVENT/E480_070.ACB and likewise with matching awb, note that this is always gonna be english audio unless you want to make a separate option for jp voice

and bmd path is just the first argument for the first action here (AddFile for bmd emulator), aka {ModDir}/OptionalModFiles/ArseneVoice/e108_101.msg
theres documentation for standard bmd emu usage but not rly for adding a custom file/folder to get imports from unfortunately, you kinda just have to flip through source until it clicks

[slow wren]

I hafta go but I will try this later

[slow wren]

@golden frost I tried using the mod and this happened
isn't flowutils yours and a WIP
thus I don't know how to fix this

ok I found your zip in the pins now I'm getting some ambiguous match error grah

maybe if I send an error screenshot into the ether god will fix it

[golden frost]

well the config is currently almost certainly broken so i would assume thats why

like im psure raven is passing wrong number of args for like half the actions

[slow wren]

turning off the two toggles using that function (shelter and haremmaruki) made it go away

[golden frost]

i oughta poke at it...its like almost 2am so not an ideal time though...

[slow wren]

ok now it can't identify the AWB file to go with t (I put both in OptionalModFiles\MysteriousVoice\CPK\SOUND\EVENT)
these were working on switch

do I have to put something with the AcbEmulator in the config?

also just to mention it, in your examples the things that said like '{BF_API}' weren't working but it worked when I copied what the other things were using

why does it want a SE AWB when there is none

https://tenor.com/view/this-this-is-glorp-this-is-glorpshit-gif-5930131520514232711

[vital harbor]

I what

[vital harbor]

idk why shelter is a problem for you, works fine on my main mod

oh shit

yeah it's localization framework

we couldn't figure out how to get the api working

I removed localization framework from my configs on the main shelter mod bc i just gave up

[slow wren]

very nice that there is about zero documentation for these things

[vital harbor]

I just had to decipher whatever the fuckin ambigious shit was in the code

[slow wren]

do you know how to get the audio working?

[vital harbor]

idk

put the awb in there supposedly

but I get plenty of "can't find awb" errors

on like, all my mods that use custom events

but the audio usually plays fine

I think maybe the awb is missing from some registry somewhere

the acb maybe

[slow wren]

it wouldn't load at all

[golden frost]

nah if youre copypasting an entire acb then youre already not using awb emulator

[vital harbor]

try to figure out how to get ts working

[slow wren]

I just had an idea btw, I can try making it so we can generate a ModConfig.json directly from the spreadsheet so that it does it itself

[vital harbor]

ignore pixels I am on my phone

[golden frost]

you prob need another folder between cpk and sound, theoretically the name of the cpk but could prob be called anything

[vital harbor]

I think I tried like 5 different combinations of arguments and none of them worked

comments are too vague

[golden frost]

because i havent unfucked the config yet

[slow wren]

it seemed to be recognizing the awb but not loading it, but I will try that

[vital harbor]

the bf api isn't working either? :,)

how do programmers understand this stuff I don't get it

[slow wren]

no it is but the variable to make it easier wasn't

[vital harbor]

ah I see odd

[golden frost]

right now it should be the whole ass name of the bf emu interface which i dont remember off the top of my head and dont want to write out every time which is why in the unfucked version im defining all the emulator api namespaces as constants

[vital harbor]

sorry I was just copy pasting

https://tenor.com/view/ehe-anime-gif-anime-girl-teehee-gif-27178660

5 million api calls be upon ye

[slow wren]

what now

[golden frost]

thats. not what ModConfig.json does

[slow wren]

idk what you thought I meant, but what I meant is, taking things like name, description, dependencies, etc and automating that into the json format

[vital harbor]

It needs cue id

[slow wren]

it also said a no no word

[vital harbor]

oh shit lmao

[slow wren]

it didn't load the bmd anyways

[vital harbor]

Japanese dev moment

[golden frost]

not json
yaml
remix toolkit uses yaml

[slow wren]

brain stupid moment I meant the config.yaml not the other file

[vital harbor]

oh you meant like automatically putting everything in the yaml. I suppose a script for that would be nice

[slow wren]

[golden frost]

and also i dont think autogenning would really work for options like the will seeds that have multiple events behind one toggle

[vital harbor]

I mean it really doesn't take that long to just copy paste and change the file paths

[slow wren]

I have ideas of how to do that though

anyways, I already asked this (kind of) but I am still lost, so let me be clear about what I am trying to do:
I have modified the msg for E480_070, created a new AWB since the event lacks one, and made a hook for scheduler_04.

• What should the directory/file layout within OptionalModFiles/MysteriousVoice be?
• What do I need in config.yaml?
  I hope if I can get this working it should make it easy for me to do other events as well.

[vital harbor]

you'll wanna make an femulator folder with bf and bmd in there, then make a cpk folder next to femulator. then just look at the way I did the config for most of the others in the yaml

[golden frost]

if im understanding right you copied messages from the used event so if that one call any event sfx then you might have to yoink that too

[slow wren]

no the used event doesn't even have any sfx

[vital harbor]

you'll need to edit the evt and add a call for audio

iirc

[slow wren]

no
this was entirely working on switch (except I didn't edit schedule)

[golden frost]

i dont have the spoons to type a long answer on mobile so gimme a few

[slow wren]

here is file tree currently

├───BF
│       scheduler_04.flow
│
├───BMD
│       E480_070.msg
│
└───CPK
    ├───EVENT_DATA
    │   └───MESSAGE
    │       └───E400
    │               e480_070.bmd
    │
    ├───SCHEDULER
    │       scheduler_04.bf
    │
    └───SOUND
        └───EVENT
                E480_070.ACB
                E480_070.AWB

[vital harbor]

...the spoons?

[slow wren]

it's an analogy for energy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoon_theory

[vital harbor]

looks correct to me

[slow wren]

and np ocean take your time

[vital harbor]

not me clicking on p4g fog restoration instead of this thread lmao

[golden frost]

ok so the dummy file used for stock bf/bmd implementation is entirely there for routing purposes, ie. the process by which file emulation framework gets the path to a file in an archive (so it can build the merged version and make the game read it)

if youre using AddFile from the bf/bmd/l10n apis then you might be able to get away without one since they make you pass it the route directly as an arg, but with AddDirectory the folder you pass behaves identically to the normal bf/bmd/l10n folder (or langcode subfolder) so you do need a dummy (or english for l10n) file if using those
i dont think theres any harm in having a dummy file anyway in the former case besides maybe some mild confusion

also im at my laptop again and uh, looking at the l10n remix actions i think its because config has wrong number of args for both api functions. it should be 2 (or 3 but i dont think remix config has a way to pass enum values) but theres only 1. it should be uhhh pause to fish through source goddamnit @gleaming hare help me out

im guessing arguments for 2-arg AddDirectory in ILocalisationFramework.cs are like...relative path from mod folder to subfolder containing the langcode folders, and then the mod folder itself, but im not sure just from reading the description and flipping through source?

[slow wren]

I decided to switch and try to add in the holy grail scene. so I copied the files from vanilla and it worked except of course the audio was ear-rape because of the encoding. So I extracted the ADX files and tried to add them with AWB emulator, and now for some reason it can't find the EVT/ECS files. which were working perfectly fine before.

[fickle anchor]

can we not use the word rape like that

[slow wren]

that is a relatively common term but I see what you mean so I will not use it anymore.

[fickle anchor]

i think it being common is a problem...

[slow wren]

is it even possible to emulate AWB with the API because it doesn't seem like it's capable of that https://github.com/Sewer56/FileEmulationFramework/blob/main/Emulator/Interfaces/AWB.Stream.Emulator.Interfaces/IAwbEmulator.cs

I might just have to re-encode it myself...

or I can try Ryo I guess

idk which is easier. we'll have to do this for any voiced scenes ported from P5... but gotta go to bed it's nearly 5am why do i do this to myself (adhd moment)

[noble echo]

ryo is usually easier, no need for new acb+awb, can just call whatever id you want and put them in the Unknown.acb folder

[vital harbor]

ryo was summoned

could the problem be that you haven't set awb emulator as a dependency and/or added its api to the yaml?

[golden frost]

i mean id expect that functionality to be there but what do you need it for exactly

[golden frost]

oh the audio only exists on ps3

probably worth just using ryo then yeah since ur gonna have to mess with each individual audio track anyway

(with the arsène one i was lazy and suggested just copying the whole archive since thats way fewer steps)

[slow wren]

also this event has left in some of those Japanese placeholder messages for when the grail laughs. There isn't a BF so do I have to edit the EVT?

[golden frost]

is there anything that actually needs changing

(i think i implemented this one locally already but i havent pushed actually)

(not the audio tho i think i didnt realize it needed it)

[slow wren]

In what regards?

I think just remove those SE speech bubbles, and some of the text spacing could be better because it was made for P5's font

Actually I was going to make another column on our spreadsheet to keep track of things beside translation we're changing, like that

[golden frost]

yeah you prob shouldnt need a bf then

[golden frost]

me about to ask why there are bmd edits for creepy maruki ending valentines and then i look and oh yeah they say sumire instead of kasumi

ok i finally sat down to poke at the config and i think its 70% good? im still stuck on what args for adding l10n directory are though so ill put a pin in that

i might just remove the check that makes karaoke available on 5/1 if hospital is disabled because the flow is such a fucking pain to read 😭
like its one day right before the deadline, if you waited that long to finish the palace thats on you smh

[vital harbor]

lol fair

[slow wren]

That’s also one of the events that needs bustup expressions and singleword fixed (I am willing to do this)

[golden frost]

sure

im looking through if theres anything on my end that doesnt currently have a config option/action (and isnt handled by flowutils). i think i havent implemented the will seed ones
(i think they might also have janky anims but idr, i might take a look)

[golden frost]

hm
idr how it happened but a bunch of evts are in the regular persona essentials folder while others are in the folder for the specific option
i feel like we should do one or the other for consistency, if theyre in the folder for the option then they should only be "added" to the game if option enabled whilst if theyre in p5ressentials i dont have to write as much in config.yaml :v

[slow wren]

Yeah that’s kind of what I was wondering
tbh I feel like most of them don’t need to be toggles since they’re literally just extra scenes. Only if they have some effect on either gameplay (e.g. akechi awakening) or "plot-altering changes"

[golden frost]

ive been kinda wondering about maybe grouping all the hawai'i ones under one option since theyre small and related enough that like. do you really need a toggle for every single one

[slow wren]

Agreed

What happened to the "plot-altering changes" on the spreadsheet

[fickle anchor]

i ate it

[slow wren]

I think the hangouts could also be all grouped together (except Angel and Julian)
but like I'm thinking, if the point is adding extra scenes, people want to play the extra scenes. So I feel like the Hawaii ones don’t even need to be a toggle at all, since they only add to it and don’t really "affect" anything about the plot. The ending ones like Maruki valentine's or Akechi at the shelter make sense to toggle.

also yes that would make things way easier with config and optional mod files which has been a major frustration

So far it seems like everything is toggleable and that just seems like more work for both us and the player

[golden frost]

i got distracted flipping through history for the google sheet and why does it have. so many empty revisions
but for some reason it seems the category was barely used in the first place, for the alternate iwai scene that was recategorized under minor changes and the two redundant twins scenes that were yeeted from the sheet altogether

like im not sure why it was on those and not the fucking early akechi third awakening which isnt in the sheet for some reason

[slow wren]

I could have sworn that was on the sheet too

[golden frost]

so could i :D

[golden frost]

i dont think itd be easier per se so much as just less bloated, the main issue seems to be no one working on it but me knows how to do actions

though less bloat is still good

[slow wren]

I guess the "minor changes" could be grouped as a toggle? Since although minor, some people might only want additions

[golden frost]

what id is beta akechi awakening again

i want to add it to sheet because why is it not there

oh its in pins

ok got it

for some of the ones labeled as plot additions, i think maybe split the less significant ones into a minor additions category and the more substantive ones can be their own toggles unless theres a ridiculous number of them

[slow wren]

what makes something more or less substantive though

[golden frost]

like how much would people give a shit i guess
like it just feels weird to have shit like the kamehameha bit or nervous prime minister in the same category as akechi shelter or maruki ending valentines

[slow wren]

imo the only toggles necessary would be those, Angel and Julian, and alternate Akechi awakening. I guess Will Seeds and hangouts could be grouped together respectively, but I see no reason why anyone would want to turn those off

[golden frost]

i think anything not canon compliant should be separate from the rest of the options, though i think thats mostly just akechi awakening and the alternate iwai scene (and the latter is just a few lines and voice acting)

[slow wren]

maybe Sae poker scene?

[golden frost]

im thinking, in no particular order...

• will seeds
• hangouts
• bad ending additions (could get more granular and separate yaldy ending from maruki valentines/white day)
• non-canon compliant stuff (maybe split akechi awakening and the iwai bit? im not sure how many ppl would use the iwai one by itself though tbh. if it were me id prob just use the voices pack wisteria is doing separately lol)
• misc changes
• misc additions

i dont fully understand whats up with sae poker

[slow wren]

It's kind of a bigger change but it's not really "incompliant"

also
I'm labeling which scenes are being ported from vanilla P5 and I noticed there are two others in the Niijima Arc. Do you think these are worth including? (Of Makoto on the couch, which would need to be fixed, and them texting about the plan) https://tcrf.net/Persona_5/Unused_Cutscenes/Okumura_to_Niijima_Arc

[golden frost]

358_001 and 393_014?

[slow wren]

yeah

[golden frost]

psure the latter is just the full version of the convo that appears in flashback during the fake your death reveal

so like you could include it but might be awkward unless it were ng+ only or smth

[slow wren]

I think it's meant to be during that flashback

I'd have to compare to the final

it's weird because some of these are totally unused content, some are clearly early versions of scenes that were implemented differently, and some are sort of in between

why do I keep discovering more scenes everytime I look at TCRF I thought I've already read all these articles

they weren't newly added to the pages

[golden frost]

as for 358_001, i assume itd go somewhere in the plot tunnel at the start of sae arc? not sure precisely where

[slow wren]

I think what I'm going to do for the time being is create the scenes I want to work on as individual mods, and then we can figure out the config stuff and implement them accordingly

[runic bough]

ok dumb question

all of your talk here implies you already had files and you just need to add config toggles for each one, as opposed to making these changes and adding them as you go along

is that not the case

[golden frost]

not all the files, the bf hooks to actually call the events havent all been made
and you have stuff that only exists in og p5 where you need to rip the files and readd them. i think chubby should have all those but the audio also needs conversion

[slow wren]

depends on the event

What is the easiest way to convert them
-# can we make a script that decrypts a P5 AWB and re-encrypts it with the P5R key or something

[golden frost]

i was thinking convert all to wav, convert wavs to hca, implement with ryo

[slow wren]

okey, whatever's easiest
lmk if you need me to send any other files

[golden frost]

i guess you could also extract all from awb with sonic audio tools, use that one encrypt/decrypt script, and then rebuild awb with sat. idk which is less of a pain

(you cant use awb emulator if the awb doesnt exist i dont think, and you cant use it to add new tracks)

[slow wren]

this sounds easier (I think) but only because I'm more familiar with it

idk what script you mean though

[golden frost]

i remember there being an ancient-ass python script that basically just runs vgaudio to batch encrypt/decrypt, although thinking about it yona quick convert might be able to do the same anyway?

actually

wait

you might be able to skip the wav step in the ryo implementation i said earlier idk why i thought that had to be done still

i think im too used to having to convert already encrypted files

[golden frost]

are we good on these categories, if im gonna re-refactor the config yaml i want assurance that im not gonna have to fucking overhaul it again after

esp cus im probably gonna move files around if were grouping events together

[slow wren]

What are "misc changes" and "misc additions"

[golden frost]

misc changes would be anything that is currently grouped under minor changes in the spreadsheet, misc additions would be added events that dont fit into the other categories like the satanael thing and the hospital

[slow wren]

Yeah I mean I think for the most part the toggles could just be based on the spreadsheet categories

Oh not implemented yet but there should be one for the Mementos requests

[golden frost]

??? were these not royal additions

[clear gazelle]

Some of these audio tasks could be pretty easily done in AtomicAudio if you're already willing to use a Python script. Others could merit their own commands (it wouldn't be that hard to add some) if they're common enough tasks, like changing the encryption inside of an AWB

Lmk if there's something obvious I could add that would make processes like this simpler 🙂‍↕️

[golden frost]

yeah these are in fucking royal why are they labeled like they only exist in ps3

[slow wren]

ok this is my bad, I saw that they were in the original but I didn’t realize they weren't cut entirely like some of the other scenes were

[golden frost]

yeah i just quickly changed it in spreadsheet

i already have the ps3-only ones noted in the notes column although its possible i missed a couple

my brain is kinda frying rn and this refactor is gonna take a bit actually so imma put this down for a bit

[slow wren]

it's a lot

I was looking at TCRF again and noticing even MORE scenes from base P5 though… here are the ones that are additional scenes and not just early versions:

• e118_002: Kamoshida hears a noise and finds a vent covering in the real world when Joker and Ryuji escape the first time (untranslated)
• e126_001: Kamoshida and the Principal talking in the staff room, about the noise and about why should they accept transfers with a criminal record when Kamoshida's reputation is great for the school (untranslated)
• e141_101: Sojiro talks to Joker about group dating (why) (translated)
• e155_001: 4/15, Joker, Ryuji and Morgana walking to the alleyway before they enter the Palace, Ann is following. (untranslated)
• e160_001: Igor calls Joker to the Velvet Room after beginning Morgana's confidant. (untranslated)
• e193_106: Thieves gather to take the train to Madarame's house. Seems to be 5/16 right before the "button mash" scene. Translated.
• e217_011: SIU director talking on the phone about the first calling card (because we need more of him). Translated and fully voiced
• e290_101 / e290_201: Interesting (translated) dialogue about Futaba's Palace, but there are no visuals so it may not be worth implementing. Also both imply they're climbing.
• e291_001: Thieves prepare to enter the Palace outside Sojiro's house. (untranslated)

[golden frost]

i think chuck any that might be worth it into the spreadsheet. actually admittedly id prob just chuck anything in period and just strikethrough and label anything not worth implementing

although maybe a toggle somewhere for either including or yeeting the siu director one, as someone who already made a mod yeeting most of his used scenes :v

[gleaming hare]

tbh I don't really understand what you're asking, but the API is all documented. If the comments aren't clear lmk which one's confusing you and I can clarify. https://github.com/AnimatedSwine37/Reloaded.Universal.Localisation.Framework/blob/83983208c3ce092437104a05a9ebf04df23b4cb6/Reloaded.Universal.Localisation.Framework.Interfaces/ILocalisationFramework.cs#L24

I probably need to read a bunch of the earlier messages for context, but I have not

[golden frost]

i dont understand what the first argument for AddDirectory is supposed to be even with the comments

[noble echo]

the folder your language files are in: CUSTOM_FOLDER/JA/etc

[vital harbor]

only ones I'm really interested in are e193_106 and e290_101 if we can restore it

[golden frost]

.

[golden frost]

yes that is what i was asking clarification on
as in "to be clear, its a fucking relative path from mod dir right??"

[noble echo]

i just assume it's the full path unless it states relative

[golden frost]

and this is why i ask clarifying questions 😭

[vital harbor]

i feel like we're not any closer to fixing this lmao

[golden frost]

i mean i did mostly unfuck it until i realized like 2/3 of it was wasted work unless anyone has an objection to condensing a bunch of the options

[golden frost]

i assume from the no replies that no one objects

[slow wren]

I don’t object but I want to make sure I understand exactly what it is you're doing

[vital harbor]

idrk what you're doing lol

[golden frost]

coalescing the config options to the groupings brought up yesterday and rearranging the folder structure to match

it shouldnt be like hard just a bit time-consuming

[vital harbor]

ah yeah i see

i don't really see why we need to do that

[golden frost]

making config less bloated, ideally

[vital harbor]

idk i like having the customization

what if someone doesn't want certain things

[golden frost]

(and config yaml particularly)

[slow wren]

It's not getting rid of all customization, but condensing it so it’s not each individual scene
The point of this mod is to see unused scenes and with a few exceptions there’s not anything people "wouldn't want"

[vital harbor]

yeah i can see it

i'm not doing it though.... i already did the yaml once

[slow wren]

Well ocean was going to do it but they wanted to make sure before they do the work

[vital harbor]

yeah you can go ahead

[golden frost]

should i go more granular or are the groups said before fine

[slow wren]

This right? I think it’s good

[golden frost]

yea

the requests too ig, and other stuff that isnt strictly events?

[slow wren]

yeah

we can also separate the third part of Shinjuku hangout (offensive stereotypes) and if I implement it the other SIU scene (offensive to people with brains)

[golden frost]

the first is already a config option lol

[slow wren]

btw ocean I realized some of the events I sent you from vanilla P5 also have event-specific animations in the characters' model folders. So I'm gathering all the relevant ones.
I did realize that at least all the BMDs seem to have been left in Royal

[golden frost]

aight

[golden frost]

(as an aside, i actually knew about the bag one already though not the id. i feel like its a hint to some earlier draft where the barrier between the normal and cognitive world was already looser (and thus the devs' reasoning for making pt outfits makes sense lol))

[slow wren]

bag?

[golden frost]

126_001 though i didnt know the id before now

[slow wren]

I've been doing a rough translation of 160_001

[slow wren]

now I finished that and implemented the bustups and singleword and put the music and I was going to add it to the scheduler, then I realized Igor's talking about having made a second confidant with Morgana and that a third draws near, except in the final game you start Morgana's confidant the same day as Ann's. But I already did it, eh.
Also, I don't know how the game usually plays the sound effect when Caroline hits the cell door with her baton, because I didn't see it in EVTUI, and I checked a used event with that sound and it wasn't apparent or in the event SE AWB.

[slow wren]

omg I think that cut scene, where Igor tells you to enter via a real door instead of a dream next time, is the reason Igor says this when you first enter the door

[vital harbor]

me when they retcon random scenes

[slow wren]

I got the Mishima scene mostly working but encountering problems trying to make Akechi's portrait switch to Black Mask in third semester. I tried using local variables but it didn't work.

[golden frost]

switch bustup where

(hi, im awake at 5am pst because my dumbass didnt put down the game i was playing at 2 when my common sense told me to)

i dont think bustup is rly a thing you can mess with in local data anyway but idk what ur tryin to do to begin with

[golden frost]

(continuation of discussion in evtui i guess)
it seems like they just sorta chucked the chair into this model, which is separate from the regular shadow okumura model, made some unfinished broken anims for him actually using it, then just shrugged and did all the chair stuff in event-specific anims

note the two fucking capes lol

[tall lintel]

you ever pose so hard on someone that you not only become one with a floating chair but also duplicate your cape?

[slow wren]

replace the chair with belphegor's toilet

btw I put the Futaba scene I found into DeepL and it seems to be from an earlier version of the story that isn’t even reconcilable if we replaced events (and it would require several). I'm not sure they even know Futaba is Alibaba in this version. So I won't bother with that one

[golden frost]

wow

l/r strikes again

[golden frost]

I GOT YOU YOU BITCH

and it only took me two sped up youtube tutorials B)

ill get to the cape i just wanted to prove i could do it :v

it seems to be one cape mesh for standing and one for sitting, im not sure how the game hides it in the one event but maybe i can just hide the standing one way beneath the floor lol

ooooooor not, the collar seems to be part of fucking both of them bruh

another thing im noticing is the event has him actually kinda sink down into the chair so thats a thing to replicate ig

[clear gazelle]

Material animation, almost certainly. If you look at his MAA_s, some of them will probably show the various cape configurations...... the only issue being that EVTUI's default camera for blend animations is too zoomed in to actually see 😅

[golden frost]

i thought thatd be the most sensical way though i didnt feel like checking at 3am (and evtui did funni crash)

[clear gazelle]

I gotta figure out why animations crash so much more on Windows

[golden frost]

its just the one i said with me leaving it open a long time cus i forgor i had it open

[golden frost]

in any case ig ill see if 494_040 already has a command for hiding the cape and if not ill try and steal one from 344_002

[slow wren]

@golden frost which, if any, of the events from vanilla P5 did you begin or finish implementing?
I was thinking I'll focus on those since I have easy access to the relevant files

[golden frost]

uhhh i got distracted by violet mod, lemme remind myself

[golden frost]

i thiiiiiiiink i started all these in some form? idr how much progress on each though

except sae poker

i think the cops too

[slow wren]

I know the Holy Grail one at least needed animations which I hadn’t sent you

[muted holly]

Is that one cutscene with Ren shooting the air to get the cops’ attention in there?

[slow wren]

which one do you mean?

[muted holly]

https://youtu.be/mUAeRXbLf3c?si=Od8Br56fhqhmlr_T

This one

[slow wren]

I was looking into the unused Kasumi scenes and I found more that aren't in TCRF or Faz's video, because it turns out they only have BMD files, no EVT or the like.
These definitely were an early version of her confidant though, so I doubt if it's really worth implementing even the ones that do exist.
482_080 - seems to be a lunch scene, as Kasumi mentions Kamoshida was controlling the menu. She jokes about her mom being a victim of the Phantom Thieves... they stole her sleep time. Then invites Joker to go shopping for glasses for her dad. Interestingly, Morgana still calls her Uzuki here(!), but her nametag does say Kasumi Yoshizawa.
482_090 - actually shopping for the glasses for her dad, which are brought up in the earlier, existing unused events. (in the final she brings it up in the same event you do it)
482_100 - an early version of the scene where you run into both Kasumi and Akechi.

[vital harbor]

was uzuki her name in early versions?

[slow wren]

yeah I guess it's still used in some places like Reigo and Yugo are but idk if it was known to be in any text files

[slow wren]

ok check the new tab I made on the spreadsheet
I listed events with BMD and EVT files and then listed events that only have one of the two (events with a BMD and no EVT are probably more notable)

I know there are some events that don't follow that pattern though

like cutscenes and whatnot

before I knew ocean was working on it, I was looking into putting that holy grail scene and something to do with the scene when you enter the temple has an event ID that doesn't "exist"

[slow wren]

ok I also added a list of events with PAKs in vanilla and then lists comparing those as well
...there's a lot to go through here

but I gotta go to sleep

[slow wren]

so I was putting in that event where Maruki tells you you have an appointment with him, and I realized it's a little weird. Here's how things play out in the final version on 5/13:

• exams
• Assembly where you're introduced to Maruki
• Meeting him in the courtyard, beginning confidant
• in class, Kawakami says certain students will have to meet with him, and she will tell them after class. Then Ann and Ryuji text debating whether they will go, Ann says she will.
• Ann's counseling session
• Class ends and Morgana says "don't you have a counseling session? I'll see you after."
• running into Kasumi, then first counseling with Maruki

The unused event has Maruki telling you you have an appointment with him (and you already know him at this point), then Kawakami says she was going to tell you but he beat her to the punch. So I'm pretty sure this is supposed to be right after her class, especially since afterwards Morgana still says you have an appointment (I think they forgot to change this lol). Only problem is, the unused event has him saying "good morning". So I think it's fair to change that and include it, right?

[golden frost]

my thought from that description would be put it the first day you can do rank 2

[slow wren]

the rest of the event text makes it seem like it's the first day though

ok I tried putting it there and it worked well
it wouldn't make sense a different day

now I'm looking at 482_010.You run into Kasumi and she mentions Madarame confessing, then she says "Oh, I haven't told you have I? I'm actually a gymnast." But when you meet her at the cleanup event, she does/talks about gymnastics and that's before Madarame confesses. The rest of the event would make sense without that but it feels like a larger change compared to "good morning"/"good afternoon"

but you can ask if she's going to practice before she says that...

she talks about being serious to compete internationally so maybe it was supposed to be about that (vs just doing it as a hobby)?

oh never mind it's because she says "I need to get to practice"

this is one of those set of Kasumi events that seem like an earlier version of her confidant and don't make much sense with the final game so maybe it's better to just exclude it

[slow wren]

I just found an event so early that not only do Ryuji and Shiho have different names, but the Phantom Thieves group is the Fool Confidant

171_001

I'm looking through the events I determined have a BMD but no corresponding EVT. Some of these existed in vanilla, some didn't. This one did apparently? But a lot of them aren't on TCRF

thanks atlus

tragically that event does not exist in either version

I wonder if some of these might exist in PS3 or the beta though (note the version I have of vanilla is PS4)

well some of these events almost certainly exist in the betas

[tall lintel]

URINE-FILLED STUDENT

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOO

[golden frost]

"almost"

[tall lintel]

that is quite possibly the best name i have ever read

who in this server is gonna name themself "Urine-Filled Student"

[golden frost]

eh, close nough

[slow wren]

recording this for future generations

also yes it's 3 am :)

[tall lintel]

5am here :3

[golden frost]

we are in the same timezone lol

[slow wren]

one of these events is more of "crossdressing men" harassing ryuji so good riddance

[tall lintel]

the fall of oceansuck

[golden frost]

uve oceansucked on deez nuts long enough B)

[fickle anchor]

Isnt a urine-filled ocan just a normal ocean?

How much fish piss is there

[golden frost]

im not committing to a piss joke for more than 24 hours so get that screencap in #le_funny-moments while you have the chance

[slow wren]

ok, I'm going to sleep now. take a look at the (rather disorganized) Sheet4 on the spreadsheet to see what I've documented so far. I will continue tomorrow... probably
Some of these scenes which don't exist would probably be fairly feasible to create (at least for those experienced with event editing), but not all of them are very interesting. Like, one I imagine would be easy and is already translated is Joker trying to study but Morgana is rambling about how pretty Ann will look in a yukata.

also for those interested in that sort of thing, apparently Shiho was originally called 小西 沙紀 (Saki Konishi) and Madarame was called Katsushika

[golden frost]

former is obviously temp name because p4 lol

[slow wren]

oh lol I haven’t played P4 so I didn’t know. That’s funny. Seems like her given name was spelled differently though

[tall lintel]

we gotta get this mf on the p4 train

[slow wren]

I have to finish P3R first (I just started it) and for that I have to finish the new Hyrule Warriors first (but I am close to done with that)

[fickle anchor]

p4 spoiler for you: the killer is nanako

[grave bane]

. The killer is Diadara.

[slow wren]

I already know this and the biggest spoiler of P3 because Persona fans repeat the unfunniest, most spoilery jokes

[tall lintel]

[vital harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/adachi-adachi-persona4-adachi-persona-tohru-adachi-tohru-adachi-persona-gif-25581421

[grave bane]

Even after being spoiled, I was honestly shocked at ||Yosuke|| being the killer.

[slow wren]

Ok, you know that scene where they go to the beach and the guys try to pick up women in a montage and keep failing? Before Angel and Julian show up. This originally had an insane amount of dialogue and branches (630 messages!)
There are three sets of girls, and each time you can either ask Ryuji or Yusuke to do it or talk to them yourself, and then after that there are various tactics or topics you can try bringing up. Like Ryuji being a runner, Yusuke painting them nude, ask for their number, or "just stare at them". These actually tend to have success until something goes wrong:
The first pair of girls ends up being a mother and daughter, the second end up being in ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, and the third just get bored because it ends with trying to convince them you're the Phantom Thieves. This is so weird, there's a LOT of content with this one but why Atlus why
E311_102 if you want to take a look for yourself

it's fully translated too to be clear

can someone with access to the beta check if this exists because I want to see what it would be like being able to select the different options

[tall lintel]

ok this sounded really fucking peak

then i read that part

[slow wren]

most of it is prime Persona 5 Funny Moments material but if you let that go on for too long especially at the beach this is what you get

[slow wren]

thanks
I might have to ask you about some of these other events but a lot of them are early versions incompatible with the final plot... this one isn't

Oh I put the event ID wrong :P
it's 310_102

[clear gazelle]

Ah... that is not in the beta.

101 and 103 are, but not 102.

[slow wren]

311_102 is another unused event though, it just seems to be Morgana asking about going to Mementos

I can actually give you a list of events that have BMDs that are not in Royal or PS4 vanilla

or actually- @clear gazelle can you send me a list of events that exist in the beta (like list files in the event directory or something)

[clear gazelle]

Sure, one sec.

(There are also still links you can use if you want to access the beta. But I can provide info/files in any case.)

[slow wren]

oh ok

[slow wren]

thanks

[slow wren]

I'm charting out what events exist in which versions. And it's weird because that particular beach event exists ONLY as a BMD in Royal.

I found the links to the beta thanks to you, but just for convenience- you sent me the list of EVTs here; is this at all different from the list of event BMDs in the beta?

Here's a list of EVTs that only exist in the beta but have BMDs in Royal. But I'd expect they have dialogue in the beta too.

E120_101
E136_002
E293_301
E296_201
E296_501
E315_201
E319_013
E407_301

[clear gazelle]

Let me see....

[slow wren]

a couple of them do have translations that we thus only have from Royal...!

[clear gazelle]

Looks like E136_002 and E319_013 are in there, but not the others.

Which is......... weird, given they have EVTs......

Possibly they point to BMDs with custom paths 🤔 I haven't checked.

...wait, I don't see (most of) these EVTs in the beta, so maybe I misunderstood what you mean here.

[slow wren]

I might have done something wrong then.

I think I made a mistake in calculating this, hold on

ok, my mistake- I think it's these:
e113_001_liptest
e184_901
e200_201
e349_003
e387_001
e395_004
e395_006
e760_910

[clear gazelle]

I'm not at my computer to check, but this should be a complete list of beta BMDs 👆

[slow wren]

yeah, thanks
now I have a list of basically every event that existed in some form across Dec 2015 beta, vanilla PS4, and Royal remaster (I guess there might be some more in the other betas, final PS3 vanilla, and PS4 Royal, though I kind of doubt it)

I have a copy of PS4 royal but I apparently deleted the dump to make space and do not feel like doing that again lol

[runic bough]

it sounds like a worse version of the P3/P4G operation babe hunt events

😭

there's so many unused events though wow

[tall lintel]

the 120hr game will become 200hrs

[golden frost]

imma try to uh. actually take my meds and eat

[vital harbor]

i added her to the flowscript but that's all i'm doing for now

bc editing the evt would be such a pain

[grave bane]

I think the Faz version of restoring this just replaced Sae with her.

[golden frost]

i wouldnt be above adding to evt but not rn lol

[golden frost]

fayande literally sent that in #p5-modding-chat in the convo that led to me adding that one :V

[slow wren]

lol
I actually didn’t know dialogue for that existed

[golden frost]

me neither!

[slow wren]

Me when I read this thread before #p5-modding-chat :V

How about we mod in this into the evt instead

[fickle anchor]

tbf there is a lot of new messages in p5moddingchat

[vital harbor]

that would be an amzing joke mod

[golden frost]

nah
interrupt the yaldy fight itself with it

[slow wren]

I was going to say, it has to be because of the music

Make it happen during one of the "I release upon you" scenes and have Yaldabaoth's voice muffled in the distance, (there is an unused sloth line that could be used for this actually)

[golden frost]

lmao

ngl i to this day do not know what all the deadly sin effects are
i think even in og i killed him too fast

[slow wren]

It’s weird too because half the time they don’t actually affect you? Like there’s a chance they make you unable to act

[fickle anchor]

... thinking about it, yaldy makes everyone horny in the fight with the lust ailment

[golden frost]

"indulging in a lewd fantasy"

iirc lust is that, vanity is the black paint that makes you weak to everything, gluttony makes skills more expensive and i thiiiiiink envy makes party member attack you if you use support on someone else?

[vital harbor]

what does wrath do again?

[fickle anchor]

probably rage

[golden frost]

fuck if i know i dont remember ever seeing it :V

or pride

or greed

[fickle anchor]

it makes the pts gay

[slow wren]

Lust is basically Fear, you can’t act
Vanity is paint (also has Tetra/Makara Break built in)
Gluttony doubles skill costs
Wrath is basically rage and increases damage dealt and taken
Avarice (greed) just inflicts hunger
Envy is like brainwash
Pride isn’t really an ailment, rather makes it so if you attack/debuff during that turn he saps your SP

The difference is these are almighty ailments so they can't be cured and for Lust/Avarice/Wrath/Envy sometimes you just don't lose the turn anyways

[fickle anchor]

greed actually sounds kind of interesting

[slow wren]

Oh you’re right Envy is on party members that get buffed/healed, didn’t realize that

[slow wren]

Mb should have said gluttony

[fickle anchor]

(i was wondering)

how hardcoded are they to yaldy specifically?

[slow wren]

I think Gluttony and Pride are just for show as skills and don’t do anything outside that fight

Vanity definitely works on enemies, the others I think work but idk if they actually have any effect

[fickle anchor]

vanity works perfectly well on enemies. i've been using for a while

at least we got that one

[slow wren]

There are other enemies who can inflict hunger (mainly Wakaba and Okumura/robots) but the player never normally can do so, right?

[fickle anchor]

hunger also works perfectly fine. but there's no method for it

famine's breath, Famine's Scream, Stomach Blow, and Insatiable Strike all have working skills with animations

[slow wren]

Resist Hunger is truly the most useful skill in the game

(I don’t think you can even get it outside of a fusion alarm lol)

[fickle anchor]

for some reason i thought iwai selled it

[slow wren]

He might

[fickle anchor]

that'd be truly baffling

super useful to counter supernova burger! /s

(i forgor the name)

[slow wren]

I think you're right but there are also a bunch of accessories Iwai doesn’t sell but should

That are just unused

[fickle anchor]

there are a lot of unused accessories for multiple skills

[grave bane]

tfw the Grail's own sin doesn't get a dedicated ailment.

[fickle anchor]

they are just because

how many of these ever appear in the game?

developmentwise its smart tbf

[slow wren]

the

[slow wren]

Did you know, if you go to Shibuya on 6/21 instead of going to the Palace, you can find Ann and Makoto buying crepes together like they said they would in the cutscene. We should add if you talk to them they give you the Hassou Tobi Belt

[fickle anchor]

true... (legit they go out in 6/21???)

[fickle anchor]

omg this is so cute

[golden frost]

harisen can cure...one of these
or at least i can swear ive seen it cure lust

[golden frost]

it would be if it actually lasted long enough to get hit with supernova burger

[fickle anchor]

So... a bonk?

[golden frost]

some of them might be obtainable through itemization but im not sure

brain: yknow, if we did the config through code couldnt we use nameof shenanigans to write the options faster
me:
me: i mean how much effect will that have if were reducing the number of options anyway

[slow wren]

It seems like originally there was going to be a blocked door in Okumura's Palace where you had to change his cognition so Futaba breached the HQ's security in real life
Probably they realized making you do this with Madarame and Sae was enough lol

[golden frost]

oh?

[fickle anchor]

How much of this is in the files?

[slow wren]

it's E341_501 / 601 / 701
501 is the only one with an EVT (in vanilla) which is on TCRF and that's just Futaba at her computer
but part of why I'm doing this is to go through text files of events and I found the other two

something about Yusuke's last line here is getting me

[golden frost]

mood

[fickle anchor]

woke??????

[fickle anchor]

i didnt find an evt file tho

[slow wren]

It should have one in base P5 (not Royal). But it’s not much.

[slow wren]

I was confused why after these Niijima arc scenes there was another in Hawaii. But it turns out this is an early version of e319_101 (meeting Yusuke in Hawaii) and they left it in as e391_101 lmao

the dialogue is somewhat different from the Japanese final, they talk about Ann speaking English but being talked back to in Japanese anyways. But it's worse no matter what because it doesn't have "Ain't that right, Yusu- Wait, what the hell!?"

[slow wren]

ok uhh
@golden frost you kind of explained this to me before but I didn't follow...
now that I'm modding with the Steam version, what is the easiest and best way to import voice audio from vanilla and make it so it isn't all distorted? something with ryo?

[golden frost]

extract adxs from awb (probably fastest to just chuck acb in sonic audio tools)
make Ryo/P5R/nameofacb.acb path in mod dir
chuck adxs in folder

if that still sounds like ass try batch converting adx to hca

(i think theres some additional ryo features to like specify categories etc so it properly respects game volume settings but ive never done it and dont know off the top of my head how it works)

[slow wren]

I had to put in the actual awb/acb in the CPK and I did have to convert to hca, but I got it working
I also managed to get the flashback filter effect

[golden frost]

im realizing i typod this and fucking made the extension in the path name awb instead of acb

[vital harbor]

I regularly tyod acb to abc

stupid atomic audio

[slow wren]

I moved some of the events to another tab which are in my opinion not worth including because they are from versions of the plot that are so different, it would require a significant amount of changes. But I didn't just want to delete them. (compare the early akechi awakening which basically just moves up Hereward, I presume the 2/2 scene will be otherwise roughly the same)

[slow wren]

Lol there's an event where Akechi is trying to just walk somewhere and he's being constantly harassed by journalists and paparazzi asking about the Phantom Thieves, and he goes "Quiet, peasants!"

sadly it does not have an existing event

[slow wren]

I went to find a video of the ending in OG P5 on YouTube for comparison and in the video I picked, when Yaldabaoth disappeared and the treasure appeared, the guy playing said "well we already killed the god, why don't we just leave the treasure there and keep our powers?"

Did the original P5 have a Christmas Eve event if you didn't romance anyone? I can't find one, so I think one of these unused events is a scrapped version of that. It's with Sojiro at Leblanc but Futaba isn't there, just Ryuji and Yusuke.
It doesn't exist but this event is probably relatively easy to recreate since they're just sitting in Leblanc.

Never mind, I think the platonic event with Futaba did exist, but the people who uploaded "all dates" videos didn't include it.

[golden frost]

i assume royal just calls whatever events existed before if youre on the path for og ending

[slow wren]

Hmm, interestingly it seems like the unused event with Akechi catching the thieves on camera ("Checkmate") isn't in the December beta. So I may have to check the other betas as well for more events.
There are a few of these events from the leftover BMDs in Royal that apparently have EVTs in the beta that aren't in the original game itself, but nearly all of them seem to just be early versions of existing events anyways.

[slow wren]

I think they might have decided to switch around things because now I found a platonic Valentine's event where you go out with Sojiro and Futaba

oh this is a follow up to that unused version of the Iwai scene where he mentions will seeds

Morgana    Oh yeah, that airsoft shop guy said there's someone supposedly interested in Will Seeds.
Morgana    He said they're in Kichijoji, right? Why don't we go check it out?
Morgana    If they really do want to buy the things, that could be a solid way to shore up our funds.

[fickle anchor]

Considering i went full platonic on my last p5 run, i should remember this... but i forgor

But im almost pretty sure og and royal both have it?

[slow wren]

yea the evt still exists in P5

[golden frost]

i have a save thats like right at the end of depths, im kinda busy but u can prob just boot game with ending select enabled and speed through the end of that one

yoink

[slow wren]

I don’t need to check that much, I was just wondering whether the idea of a platonic Christmas event was scrapped and brought back for Royal but it seems it was there in the original and no one cared
These unused events would be interesting to recreate as toggles but idk if it would be worth it

[golden frost]

fair

(i keep telling myself ill boot with ending select for the thieves' den unlocks anyway and then i dont)

(i actually dont have any romances active on that save since i was going for sumire lol so i guess id find out directly)

[slow wren]

Discord felt the need to tell me in a notification that you updated your status and it led here lol

[fickle anchor]

epic

[vital harbor]

ok but that's so real

we got free trial top surgery (binders) I want free trial bottom surgery

[fickle anchor]

packer

[golden frost]

lmao

[slow wren]

ok fine we can use it P5X made it fucking canonical terminology

[edgy needle]

Is the lighting on her portrait different

[slow wren]

P5X has weird shading for all the portraits

[tall lintel]

i like the p5x shader for the characters
looks pretty good for the most part

[sick ice]

That's what it's always been called

[slow wren]

yeah but it's a fan term that I find rather cringe plus a touch of Orientalism

[fickle anchor]

While i'd like to say dude writer moment ™... this is also futaba and i can see it

[fickle anchor]

Unfortunately its ingrained in otaku culture by this point, and most persona fans are otaku

[slow wren]

i mean they also did this

[tall lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/vesuvius-baby-baby-ash-gif-2339947883921805569

[fickle anchor]

P5x was a mistake

[fickle anchor]

btw judging by the screenshot, this is the classic 'male character tells girl in a swimsuit other guys will stare at her(totally not projecting)' scene right?
like, wow, you dont say! its not like she has been living as a girl for like 16 years of her life by now, thank you for you contribution, oh noble guy. she never would've realized that wearing a swimsuit would get attention from guys!

(its totally fine if he stares at other girls tho. just cant mess with his)

[tall lintel]

in case you didn't notice
the bustup and model have the transparent shirt in different positions
(in the bustup it's hanging off her shoulder, on the model it's at the end of her shoulder)

you're welcome for ruining it for you

:3

[fickle anchor]

literally unplayable

atlus should shut down p5x now

[fickle anchor]

(oh not fun fact, most girls, from personal experience, realize this as early as 14, if not lower 🙃 )

[slow wren]

don't worry if the angry redditors and sloptubers are anything to judge by EoS is imminent (and has been since the game launched)

[fickle anchor]

they clearly predicted p5x eos 50 years before it will happen. they must be time travelers

[slow wren]

then the Velvet Room attendant Merope shows up and this is the introductory shot

I'd be remiss to not include an actual image of her outfit

anyways that entire event was just an excuse for them to make premium swimsuit versions of characters

[slow wren]

I think the original post was deleted but there was this and it got ratio'd by "getting queerbaited by Persona is like losing chess to a dog"
though I don’t really get it, a) they’re deciding she's a masc lesbian because she's a tomboy with short hair and b) if you find women pretty then you find women pretty

[fickle anchor]

(im struggling to understand the relation to my message)

anyway this is the same series that did what it did to ann despite the entire narrative at the start, so i dont expect much

[slow wren]

though maybe she is because this character in her confidant story has akechi "rival" energy

[slow wren]

The idea that swimsuits are only "male fanservice"
but we've veered enough off topic yeh

[fickle anchor]

i mean, they kinda are

lesbians are not really a whale market

if we were then maybe yuri anime would get season 2s lmao

[slow wren]

Well ofc I can't speak for you but I thought while the target demographic is definitely straight males, girl in a swimsuit is still a girl in a swimsuit

[fickle anchor]

well the idea is that the intention behind it is gross, but girl still pretty

[slow wren]

………….anyways
I should return to this mod and finish porting the vanilla P5 scenes

[golden frost]

ugggggggggggh i still need to overhaul the config a second fucking time

[golden frost]

thought yall would like to know i made a flowutils release

[vital harbor]

yippee

[fickle anchor]

oh yeah i still have to test that out

[golden frost]

im gonna be completely real, someone else is probably gonna have to redo config, with all the file moving that entails
like im afraid doing a bunch of wasted work and then being asked to completely redo all of it completely walled my brain so unless someone else gets the ball rolling first i dont think i have the will

i guess i could explain remix config but i feel like i already explained remix config

[slow wren]

I don’t really understand so tbh I'm just gonna work on the events and leave the config for after

[golden frost]

the issue is that where files should be placed depends on what option they fall under
coalescing options means moving their respective files and possibly combining them in the case of bfs

[slow wren]

I think pretty much all the events I was working on went together

[vital harbor]

this semester is almost over for me so i should probably try to hop back on this

[quartz pelican]

Question, how many heavy events are there gonna be

If there’s a lot I had an idea for a mod that might be a good place to put them

[golden frost]

wdym by "heavy events"

[quartz pelican]

The first post said those were the events that didn’t really have a good spot to go, like maruki being revealed early

[golden frost]

i think basically any event that isnt just a nothingburger is going in, though non canon-compliant ones are gonna be off by default

[quartz pelican]

How many non canon ones are there

[quartz pelican]

The idea I had was that every so often the protag would have a dream (some scripted, some not) and would play either one of those events or a custom battle

Although that would only work if there were a decent amount of them, was hoping for maybe 2-3 per arc

[vital harbor]

you suggested the one with the scrapped encounter with sae playing... poker?

[quartz pelican]

That could be one of them, yea

[slow wren]

I think inserting dream sequences veers from the idea of the project to just faithfully include the events

[quartz pelican]

As in changing where the events would play or messing with the event itself?

[slow wren]

Both

[quartz pelican]

For the latter, they would still play out exactly as they do normally so that’s a non issue

The former is where things get kinda weird

I guess the Sae poker wasn’t a great example since that could still fit normally

A better one would be where sojiro walks you around shujin then arsene starts talking to you, in cases like that would the unused event replace the og or would both play at some point?

[golden frost]

the former

[quartz pelican]

If there’s 2 really similar scenes would they just play back to back

[golden frost]

if the unused event is basically just an alternate version of a used one then itll just replace the used one

[quartz pelican]

Ahhhh ok ok

Yeah in that case then the dream thing prob won’t work

[quartz pelican]

Was also wondering when the 3rd awakening for akechi plays will he actually evolve there or will it still happen on 2/2

Because only getting to use hereward on the final day is kinda stupid

[golden frost]

the evolution will happen in the unused event

tbh its not that hard to move a persona evolution, its all just flowscript, i couldve moved hereward when i moved ella but it felt wrong to me storywise

[quartz pelican]

Oh awesome

Would that replace the 2/2 scene or will both be there, since they seem really similar but prob different enough to justify both

[golden frost]

just framejump past the evolution on 2/2 probably
i dont think itd make story sense to cut that event entirely

[quartz pelican]

One last question, will this work with R&V

Obv the dialogue won’t be changed to fit her, but I saw it reuses a few unused events so idk if anything weird will happen if I use both but give R&V priority

And sorry for asking so many questions, just excited to play this when it comes out 😅

[elder frost]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qvCHrEqKBU

I feel this unused scene can be used as a way for Sumire to cheer Kasumi on when Kasumi and the gang fights Yaldy

Just gotta change Senpai to either Sis or Kasumi
And change her bustup portrait + Model to Long Hair & Glasses 👌

[quartz pelican]

Oh yeah that would be good

Wait but why is she cheering us on? Get your ass up here and help fight yaldy

[elder frost]

And pretty fitting regardless of Confidant Level because she's Kasumi Sister

[elder frost]

Oh yeah that would've been really nice for Sumire to help Kasumi beat Yaldy on lol

[quartz pelican]

That would be awesome if she actually joins your party for that fight

But I guess that’s what early violet is for

[elder frost]

I'd like to replay Rose & Violet with Early Violet mod on if Raven has the time to do it that is ✨️

[quartz pelican]

Wdym if Raven has time

I think they’re already compatable

Or at least theres a compatible version of early violet

[elder frost]

Oh I thought the Early Violet for Rose & Violet wasn't finished

Since I did read that they want to make it more fit with Rose & Violet from this

https://gamebanana.com/mods/618932

[quartz pelican]

Seems like it’s finished, just that they may add more scenes in the future

[elder frost]

Then I'll wait for more scenes there 👍

[golden frost]

no promises

[muted holly]

This gives me a theory she was not supposed to get a Persona at the base game story

[elder frost]

Interesting

[quartz pelican]

If it doesn’t then hopefully zyvlos or someone else who knows how to event edit will make it happen 🙏

[muted holly]

Think about it the fact this event exist, her not joining the party for the rest of the base game, and her reawakening

It adds up

[quartz pelican]

Wait he might be onto something

My theory is that the 10/3 sequence only exists to justify her having it for the intro for the game

Since those are the only two times she has it before January

[golden frost]

theres that anim of her in upstairs hideout though, like i guess that could be crash protection like the rat but idk

[muted holly]

Exactly so it can show what’s different for the people that got the PS3 version since the PS3 version is on the PS4 too

[muted holly]

Chances are likely that is the case

My theory is she got her first awakening to have her be in the intro to justify buying the game again for PS3 version players and those events with her after it they didn’t know how to handle not having her playable for the rest of the base game hence rejecting her joining in the Shido arc

[quartz pelican]

That would make sense

Royal assumes you’ve played vanilla already so it wants to show you early on what’s different, at least that’s what I thought

Would also explain why it doesn’t tell you to do the new confidants for new story, since it assumes you’d be doing them anyway

[muted holly]

And how the only one they encourage you to do is Maruki

[golden frost]

i still find it funny how jonkler giving a shit about akechi is a whole ass plot point in third semester but they dont require you to max him to have third semester happen

[muted holly]

I thought he and Sumire was also required too on first playthrough

[golden frost]

its common internet misinfo so im not surprised

[muted holly]

Cuz they’re the new SLs so you think they’d be required for the bonus palace

[quartz pelican]

Happy they’re not tho since the game doesn’t explain you having to do them at all

Needing 3 maxed ones that the game doesn’t tell you about would be really stupid

[elder frost]

Funny I only did Maruki and Sumire, but never bothered to do Akechi and still did Third Semester just fine

[golden frost]

i did all of them because i was curious
now im an akeshu :v

[quartz pelican]

You miss out on a few bonus scenes but otherwise it’s the same

[elder frost]

Oh yeah I noticed one where Akechi comes in Leblanc where MC + Morgana and Maruki was talking and gave the calling card to Maruki

But true otherwise it's the same

[quartz pelican]

That scene is soooooo much better if you do his SL

[golden frost]

that ones a third awakening thing actually, you have to hit certain flags during the last few ranks
so you can max him and still miss it

[quartz pelican]

Oh really?

Did not know that

[golden frost]

the credits scene is specifically a max rank thing though

[elder frost]

I'm assuming it's the one where MC sees Akechi at the Train Station, when Maxed Rank with him

[golden frost]

yes thats what i mean by credits scene

[elder frost]

Ah that's explains it!

[vital harbor]

i was given permission by the original creator of early violet to add events, so once i do that the mod will be revamped to fit more in with r&v

since all early violet really does is add sumire to the party. it has one custom event and a few dialogue changes at the start but after that there's nothing else

and i don't blame them because the mod was made before evtui was out, and the custom event was made with evttool and it was JANK

i just fixed it the other day

i'll probably give the build of early violet to the original creator to upload since it is a very popular mod and i want everyone to be able to get the update

does gamebanana have a way to have multiple uploaders for one page?

[tall lintel]

yes
the og poster can add a gb user under the admin tab

i forget the button but that’s how a ton of widescreen font fix updates got pushed in my stead - i added a co-owner of sorts

[golden frost]

ive wanted to make an early violet event addon for a normal playthrough but...i have so many fucking mod projects...

[vital harbor]

that is what I am doing

[golden frost]

i swear well fix gay jonkler eventually 😭

[vital harbor]

lmao....

[slow wren]

I don’t know much about R&V, but that mod changes so much I feel like it'd be hard to make it compatible. If people want to do that it's fine, but it feels outside of the scope of this project (and that’s coming from Mr. Scope Creep over here)

[quartz pelican]

If they’re not compatible will some events just get overwritten or will the whole thing just not work

[slow wren]

Probably the former…? Depending on the priority

[quartz pelican]

Wait so then if I give R&V priority it should play all the events, and the events that have a version in both will play the R&V version right? Or am I overlooking something

[slow wren]

I think that’s how it works generally

[quartz pelican]

Not sure how many unused events there are but for most of the ones I’ve seen then wouldn’t you just have to make some text/dialogue edits to make them fit the story

A lot of them aren’t voiced/translated anyway so the voice clips wouldn’t need to be changed either

And I guess get rid of maybe a few oddball scenes like the kasumi cheering you on if you have early violet

[golden frost]

depends on what you mean by incompatible
if two mods edit the same procedure then bf emulator just straight gives up, which is kind of a big deal when both mods have i assume lots of scheduler edits, but if youre talking about events themselves then thatll probably just be priority jank

[quartz pelican]

hmm

wait

if you just got rid of R&V's scheduler then wouldn't that fix most of the problems, since all of those events would play anyway and the event edits should still be in place

might cause the beach cutscene and the new goodbye on 3/19 that R&V adds to not work but those would be small losses

[golden frost]

idk the full extent of rv's edits tbh so i dont have a precise mental inventory of every change thatd conflict but i assume yeah?

well

depends on where specifically an event is called

honestly ive had "let script tools override duplicate procedures the way it does duplicate messages" on my list of things i keep telling myself i want to do, like its really fucking funny that rv and shut up siu director change one line each of the same procedure and that is enough to cause a game breaking incompatibility

[slow wren]

Kasumi likes the SIU director 🥀

[quartz pelican]

Last I played it added a small event that replaced the prerendered beach cutscene, a goodbye that’s built off sumi rank 10 romance since you can’t romance her, those few unused events I already mentioned and text edits across the whole game

But I have no idea how the events are called

[slow wren]

https://tenor.com/view/wwe-meme-john-cena-wrestler-what-gif-16744531

[golden frost]

should be just flowscript, the question is what procedure of what bf its called in

[slow wren]

ocean when there’s an unused fully voiced scene we could add but it’s another SIU Director yap

[golden frost]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1380233446173053109.webp?size=48&name=skob

[quartz pelican]

add it

[golden frost]

atlus dont overexplain the plot challenge (impossible)

[quartz pelican]

so real

[golden frost]

imagine if they didnt fucking tell you the conspiracy was going to murder okumura before it happened

[quartz pelican]

but that would make too much sense

no smart decisions allowed

[golden frost]

there is like one detail in those events that is vaguely interesting which is that he basically calls akechi soft in a throwaway line but mostly the events dont need to exist
and these are the vast majority of siu director's scenes

[quartz pelican]

wait are you actually gonna leave them out

[tall lintel]

make no siu director a dependency

[golden frost]

? im talking about the used stupid siu director yap scenes

[quartz pelican]

oh

[slow wren]

for context, since it sounds like you might not know, ocean made another mod that does remove them
so my joke was it'd be the opposite to add one in in this mod

[quartz pelican]

you know what

im gonna learn to event edit and hire his va to make more siu director scenes

just to spite you

[slow wren]

his VA is also Igor

[quartz pelican]

wait

[slow wren]

and Shadow the Hedgehog

[tall lintel]

kirk thornton

[quartz pelican]

replace igor with the siu director

as a mod

[slow wren]

both characters appear out of nowhere in the story to give cryptic exposition

though to be clear the VA is real Igor not fake Igor

Fake Igor's VA is apparently Persona 2 mustache guy though

[vital harbor]

i think it's really funny they weaponized the fact that the original japanese voice actor died so nobody knew how the new igor would sound

[opal kestrel]

i used this trick on my friend whos on p5 because he immediately asked me why igor sounded different in p5 after playing p4

[tall lintel]

i always use that excuse lol

[torn ridge]

damn been a while since i talked here.
how goes the progress?

[vital harbor]

there is none

I've been too busy with school

• my modding hyperfixation went away

[golden frost]

i keep bouncing between other projects

[tall lintel]

this is the most real message i have ever read

[slow wren]

here you can probably appreciate one such other project (I'm finally playing P3R now and this is utterly ridiculous) https://megatenwiki.com/wiki/User:Chubby_Bub/Sandbox_4

[golden frost]

lol

[quartz pelican]

was gonna wait for the mod to be done to start a new playthrough and I see this 🥲

[slow wren]

that's genuinely motivating to hear though

[quartz pelican]

Well I’m waiting for a few mods

But this is the main one

Having a ton of extra story even if it’s mostly just filler makes the gazilionth playthrough a lot more fun

[slow wren]

It's good to know there are people who want to play this mod too
Not that I doubted it or anything but it’s basically just been between people helping work on it

[quartz pelican]

Hell I’d even be willing to throw a bit of $ in if that would speed things up

[slow wren]

I know others might, but I've always felt weird about the idea of taking money for mods. Aside from privacy reasons, it's a project of passion foremost

[golden frost]

ive thought about taking c*mmissions before but i have no idea what id charge

[quartz pelican]

I was gonna c*mission a mod from ryo and then bro just disappeared

[vital harbor]

I took a c*mission and bc if my fading hyperfixation I really haven't gotten to it 😭

[vital harbor]

ah no wonder 2.5 hasn't been updated since last august

there's been a lot of downstream changes I've been waiting for 2.5 to get

[golden frost]

yeah id be inclined to charge per estimated work hour if i had any ability to estimate how many work hours a task would take me

[vital harbor]

is ryo only allowed to push releases or can someone merge the downstream changes and make a release

[quartz pelican]

i dont think they went poof until mid feb

[quartz pelican]

How much would you charge per hour if you were to do it

[golden frost]

uhhh

i forgor

[quartz pelican]

😞

If it was a fair price I’d totally be down to do some

[fickle anchor]

Oof same

[quartz pelican]

:

I’ll come back in 10 years when this finally comes out

[quartz pelican]

Just saw theres a WIP version, may give it a try to see if it plays nice with R&V

nvm it's asking for flowutils, which I can't find a download for

[silk jacinth]

https://github.com/oceanstuck/p5rpc.flowutils

[golden frost]

yeah i made that partly for this, its in pins

[quartz pelican]

thx, I'll give it a try now

Ok so I tried booting up the event with kamoshida in the tv station and that worked, but it was untranslated (I assume it just got scrapped before that could happen), and I tried the mall scene with kasumi and that also worked fine

Does that mean they're compatiable?

[golden frost]

those options are at least

[quartz pelican]

Nvm scratch this, when I was on 10/30 and went to sleep my game crashed

and once I disabled it the crash went away

[quartz pelican]

Was trying to do some more testing with RRP and kept getting this error

[quartz pelican]

nudge nudge wink wink

I can be your test subject

(if it ever comes out)

[vital harbor]

yeah we have no idea how localization framework works in configs

we spent a while trying to figure out

remember this is not intended to be used right now

the repo was more intended for us there's a reason it's not on gamebanana

[quartz pelican]

Fair enough, I disabled all the config options except for the event I was trying to see and it went away

but now its saying my pc doesnt meet minimum requirements

I guess a 5090 isnt good enough for the ps3 game 😭

[vital harbor]

are you on a shitbox lol

oh jesus

LMAO

[quartz pelican]

if I have other stuff open or my pcs been on for a while itll just give me that

great port atlus

then I just went into task manager closed a random tab eating a gig of ram and now it starts up just fine

i dont understand 🫠

[quartz pelican]

If I wanted to mess with the scheduler how would I go about doing that

[golden frost]

like, for a specific option or just in general

[quartz pelican]

just in general

[golden frost]

its just flowscript lol

[vital harbor]

if you're just trying t ocall an event it's really simple

the schedulers are order by month, so scheduler_04 would be april

then just find the day and time, and add your event call

[quartz pelican]

Ah ok, I was trying to find something special to open them but its just vs code

[quartz pelican]

Oh yeah it does seem rly easy if it's just a normal event

I was gonna make the will seed events into a mod to practice, how would I call those after you pixk up a seed

[vital harbor]

i'm pretty sure ocean already has that down

that's not a scheduler thing, it's a field thing

[golden frost]

i think i did, at least on my local, though tbh i havent opened the repo in ages lemao

[vital harbor]

from what i remember you never merged your changes

[quartz pelican]

its this right

[golden frost]

the stuff in the will seeds folder yeah

[quartz pelican]

Ok once I can get a save to that point ill see if it calls correctly

But the bigger problem is its still in japanese even tho in the BMD folder theres the english script

at least it is when I call it from the mod menu

[quartz pelican]

Do I need the extracted CPKs

[golden frost]

wdym

[quartz pelican]

Trying to figure out where EVTUI extracts the saved events to, figured it was in the CPK files

which I cant access bc the whole game is just those few files

[golden frost]

it doesnt extract though??

it writes edited evt to the project folder, i dont understand what youre talking about

[quartz pelican]

ohhh wait nvm nvm

[quartz pelican]

Ok I finally got the translated version working

Although some of the lines run off the screen

I assume I need line breaks there

And sorry if I’m asking a lot of stupid questions

Trying to figure out how this works is a pain

[fickle anchor]

lmao im so not used to hair down ann with the panther mask

[quartz pelican]

it looked off for a bit but now I prefer it to her normal look

[elder frost]

Off Topic though, I wonder if that Mod Author who did long hair ann, will do a Long Hair Sumire in her Phantom Thief Outfit. 🤔

[quartz pelican]

wait that would be amazing

you just mean the bustups right

[elder frost]

Yeah Bustups

Because a Long Hair Sumire Bustups still exist in overworld

So I like to see a Long Hair Sumire for her Phantom Thief Outfit 👀👌✨️

[quartz pelican]

plus one to go with the white outfit

do you know who made it

[elder frost]

Omg yes White Phantom Thief Outfit Bustups for Sumire, the dream come true~

[elder frost]

The White Outfit?

[quartz pelican]

no the ann bustups

[fickle anchor]

wait does ann even have a hair down bustup in vanilla

[quartz pelican]

no

[elder frost]

https://gamebanana.com/mods/446850

It could be this mod author who made Long Hair Ann's Bustups?

[fickle anchor]

so they redrew the hair? damn

[elder frost]

They are a talented artist for sure. 👍

[fickle anchor]

yeah i didnt even notice that there wasnt a hairdown bustup and just assumed an existing one was added to the pt outfit

but then later i noticed some stuff that didnt look quite right in the hair

[elder frost]

Maybe something off?

[fickle anchor]

yeah mostly this area. cant really explain

mad impressive tho

[elder frost]

Yeah it is impressive there. 😅

[elder frost]

Pretty sure the hair color on that is off I think?

[quartz pelican]

Wait I didn’t even realize it had a patch for a dif party icon

[elder frost]

Oh yeah & can imagine Long Hair PT Sumire for Party Icon there~

[quartz pelican]

that would be so fire

[elder frost]

More Long Hair Sumire content would be great~

[quartz pelican]

would also help differentiate both sisters

since theyre so similar

[elder frost]

So true, Ponytail for Kasumi & Long Hair Sumire would be perfect to differentiate. 👍✨️

[quartz pelican]

Thats what I use right now

black ponytail kasumi and white long hair sumire

[elder frost]

Yess Black Default Ponytail Kasumi & White Long Hair Sumire~ my favorite & the best differentation~ 🥳🙌

Good taste too~

[vital harbor]

glad to see people liked the long hair sumire mod

tbh i thought i was the only one who wanted that

same with red rose

but both of them became kind of popular

[elder frost]

I'm glad both Long Hair Sumire & Red Rose are getting popular~

[golden frost]

realized there was an easier way to fix this which was to just rip the idle from his battle anims

[quartz pelican]

wait is ocean working on this again?

we are so back 🥹

[vital harbor]

ocean finish akechi always available before you hop back in...

[golden frost]

more like this particular anim was a two second fix so i knocked it out while it was on my mind

[quartz pelican]

no no dont listen to them

give in to the dark side

oh

nvm 🙁

[vital harbor]

i'm too busy playing zero escape

i deserve it after taking a 10 essay question final exam

i took a fat nap after that one

mind you this was for my environmental science class, which is a gen ed smh

none of my psych exams were nearly as hard

[golden frost]

wow

[vital harbor]

i should've taken geoscience instead

i heard it was easy as fuck but i don't like rocks

i really should've done it...

[golden frost]

i should also be doing finals stuff tbh but im having that adhd moment where trying to make myself work instead of goofing off just results in me doing neither

[vital harbor]

oh my god so real

when that happens to me i always end up watching youtube

[golden frost]

for me its a toss up between flipping through tumblr or bluesky, [REDACTED]ing, or doing dishes or something

[vital harbor]

dishes... at least you do something productive

[golden frost]

i mean yeah but its not urgent enough to do instead of finals stuff skob

[quartz pelican]

bro is just another me

[fickle anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/yuri-cosmos-ace-attorney-dual-destinies-phoenix-wright-the-cosmic-turnabout-gif-27711232

[runic bough]

https://tenor.com/view/zero-escape-999-snake-snake-999-snake-zero-escape-gif-3421738058375984001

[vital harbor]

omg snake my love

[fickle anchor]

Snake my gay icon

I really recommend playing the nintendo ds version if you can, the game was basically made for the dual screen

[vital harbor]

well I already paid for the pc versions so Imma play em lol

[fickle anchor]

if you ever revisit the games do the ds version then

[quartz pelican]

Would this event ever make its way in or is it too unfinished

[golden frost]

oh u mean the scrapped prologue events?

[quartz pelican]

yeah

I heard there was scrapped dialogue for them but didnt know there were full events

[fickle anchor]

the cinematography 😭

i have a feeling i know why this didnt make the cut

[golden frost]

i mean theres also the fact that the unused prologue events end with you escaping

[quartz pelican]

what are the other ones

[quartz pelican]

yea that one is still REALLY unfinished

but would be cool to see

[golden frost]

most unused events are on tcrf, once in a while we catch one thats not there though

https://tcrf.net/Persona_5/Unused_Cutscenes/Prologue_to_Madarame_Arc