Ars Zero

[primal sun]

same

[humble tree]

Warcrqft III mentioned, nostalgia neuron activated in my brain

[primal sun]

After all, it was a very classic game

Priestess of the Moon
Starfall

[humble tree]

:convergence:

Finger of Death

[subtle mirage]

Convergence + resets the world to its original state

[humble tree]

I agree, we need to add more ways this mod can crash your server

Convergence + Discard will delete system32

[zenith stream]

Convergence
Deletes the root

[small plank]

i wonder if it's actually feasible to reset a chunk

i'd imagine so? unsure if it would work while the server is running

[humble tree]

My daily coping message: still working on the necropolis.

Some rooms are done, some of the npcs still need work. Feature creep is real. Hope to have a beta build ready within a couple of weeks

[zenith stream]

Npcs? Damn noice
I hate project scope

[floral garnet]

I need a resource pack to turn the staffs into the ones from frieren beyonds journeys end so bad omg

[zenith stream]

None exist yet
Unfortunately

[floral garnet]

i have a couple models they just not 1.21.1 compatible atm ima see if the creator will tweak for me tho

[severe gazelle]

i was hearing about feature creep from a plant engineer on a trip around the same time as you said this lol

either way cant wait to play what you're cooking

[humble tree]

If you have the model already from some other item, use the Transmogify mod!

[floral garnet]

it has rotations not within the 22.5 degree increment rule for 1.21.1 so im going to try tweaking them

unless theres a work around for that idk im new to all this lol

[compact coral]

Zero

Since you're already suffering from feature creep and (maybe) got permission from crumbs to use the tattered armor model...

Make the anima/necrotic armor and my life is yours

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-ares-destroy-my-enemies-and-my-life-is-yours-gif-7965707800203237625

[small plank]

Wasn't there another dev already making that

[compact coral]

Was there

If there was I take it back

[humble tree]

I'm curious about it

If there's not I think I'd be up for it.

[compact coral]

Elemental has the base 4
Technica has Manip
Zero could have Anima
And I'm gonna bash my head into my keyboard until I can eventually push out Conjuration and Abjuration

I don't remember if anyone's already making Anima/Necro though. I do remember a conversation where the Heretic Robes (I think?) came up though.

[small plank]

Mr Morgrimm was the user

[floral garnet]

fern"s staff im like 3/4 done i think

https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/ferns-staff-from-frieren-minecraft-model-8892d53afb6a4a48964c00c63f9f256a credit for og artist

[past barn]

I made a model for Anima armor, but wasn’t developing it further

[restive oyster]

This is awesome.

[devout jewel]

Personally I think it needs a secondary lighter gray tone or smth

But an anima set would go hard

[zenith stream]

Or purple veins

[humble tree]

Where did you find this? I cannot find this user

[zenith stream]

Woah bro

[small plank]

Search for "tooltip" in Addon dev help thread

I can't fish the link rn

[humble tree]

Found them. Thanks! I'll try to look up what's the deal on the anima part

Because I do have two variations of the tattered arcanist armor now, the other being Rotten Arcanists' which is just a more holed version

Then I'd like to make a "higher tier" one for the lich, this could potentially also be the Anima armor

[compact coral]

You could make them the Light & Heavy variants

[humble tree]

What about dark green veins?

Got a bone to pick with you

[zenith stream]

Hm
Now I wanna try something with the armor

[humble tree]

This is giving me some oblivion mannimarco (modded) vibes btw

[zenith stream]

Ah yep I see it

[compact coral]

See, I already loved Ars Zero for the Staff

But all the Necromancy content might just make it my favorite add-on

[humble tree]

If I didn't have a massive feature creep I'd creep this in

[zenith stream]

lol

[humble tree]

This is a Gashadokuro, a 10 meter tall skeleton from japanese folk lore

[zenith stream]

"do you have games on your pone?"

[humble tree]

"hayyyy whatchu guys up to :3"

[zenith stream]

Haaai hello hi hi
"skeleton bone rattles"

[humble tree]

https://tenor.com/view/skull-mad-frustrated-pissed-angry-gif-14882659

[humble tree]

Do you still have the model for this by the way? 👀

[past barn]

The texture is actually in my Elemancy build - just not used. You can pull it from the GitHub if you want to use it.

https://github.com/Lyrellion/Ars-Elemancy/blob/main/src/main/resources/assets/ars_elemancy/textures/armor/medium_armor_anima.png

[winter phoenix]

hi

i've been trying to use the beam glyph right

but i tried to use it away from me and it had mixed results

the first idea was to make multiple beams at once but it fizzled out into one off-set beam that was really hard to aim

the second idea was to use this

and it resulted in another off set beam, tho triple this time

it goes off screen eventuallly when you hold it

trying to center the spell around yourself like this

briefly makes this happen:

but it also fizzles out in like a tick then becomes

a single beam

is it currently not possible to make beams offset from your position?

trying to use anchor results in the same effect

but not if i dont split it

[humble tree]

You're supposed to make the beam in begin, not in tick

[humble tree]

And for this one, usual suspect of using Burst/Wall/Chaining, it's just not properly supported in Ars Zero atm

[humble tree]

But for this question - yes, it should be, but they will look where you're looking

[humble tree]

Here again I would do
Begin; near, beam
Tick; temporal, anchor
End; temporal, discard

[patent edge]

how do i enable the aoe II and III glyphs in my config? right now when i try to learn the glyph it says that it’s disabled

[zenith stream]

That would be a modpack thing

[winter phoenix]

i did not think for a second to use it in begin phase thanksss

[humble tree]

I don't remember by heart but should be a folder in config, either it's in ars nouveau itself or it's in ars_zero

There's configs for each glyph

[humble tree]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-warp-millenium-falcon-gif-13239597

[zenith stream]

Still want a voxel that will pop (trigger) no matter what after a certain amount. Of time has passed

I don't want to make a fan of lasers I SWEAR

[humble tree]

I think arcane does pop after some time but....maybe it doesn't trigger the sub resolver? Maybe it should

[zenith stream]

It should

It would be funny

Or another voxel that can pop on the end phase

[winter phoenix]

wait

how am i supposed to maintain the beams in the begin phase

[zenith stream]

Look up the bucketst vid on the addon
Is useful

[winter phoenix]

oke

TOOJK0gftoiejnoj

NO YOU DIDNT

NO YOU DIDNT

NO WAY

y'all addded EXPLOSIONNN

who was gonna tell me

also with sustain it seems to have a new problem of only doing one beam off-set

[patent edge]

i’m not sure why but in the 6.1 config folder for all the mods i’m not able to find the ars zero folder, i had no problems with it for 6.0

[humble tree]

Yer using burst, no bueno

[winter phoenix]

aw man

[winter phoenix]

for some reason i can't seem to have access to aoe II or III

anyone got any idea why? i learnt it via a command so maybe something to do with that

[humble tree]

need to enable it in the config

[winter phoenix]

ah

[humble tree]

first playtest really trying to 1-on-1 the lich with netherite gear
spoiler: i lost :V

need to make it possible to hit through some of the voxels

[compact coral]

Looks really cool! Will NPCs be capable of handling multi-phase spells or only regular spells?

[humble tree]

It's closer to regular spells at the moment

[tender kernel]

is it still early in developpement or is the update coming soon

[zenith stream]

feature creep is a developmental concept that is what occurs when a dev thinks "it would be really really funny if i added this as well" one to many times

[humble tree]

coming this summer

[tender kernel]

aight

[humble tree]

imma be honest witchu it really depends what you mean by "soon"

But I would like to wrap it up this month, fr

[tender kernel]

like a month or two

[humble tree]

yes definitely

I would say the necropolis is like 80% done. The actual staffs w/ filials is not there yet at all, but I might just release this first, then do that next.

O o o. I got the assets needed for filials too now, it's all coming together

[subtle mirage]

[subtle mirage]

is there a way to make psion's circlet cast a toggle input?

[compact coral]

@humble tree Hey, do you mind if I ask you some technical questions in DMs?

[sudden mica]

What with the press-and-hold ability of this mod, it's VERY easy to crash your game

[zenith stream]

as it turns out
arcane voxels already execute whats after when they expire
however
there is no way to augment them with reduce time

[sudden mica]

This mod doesn't touch the underlying code for 'Focus of Block Shaping' or the Leap glyph does it?

entire game is crashing when I try to re-make some of my shotgun spells, but it keeps crashing even when I don't use any Ars Zero glyphs or the staff at all

🤷🏻‍♂️

Is it a coincidence?

[humble tree]

not at the moment

[humble tree]

Sure thing

[humble tree]

That should be an easy fix for me though!

[humble tree]

Sounds like it could be a coincidence, but the only way I can tell you is if you send me a crash log via https://mclo.gs/

[sudden mica]

Man....I'm nowhere near adept at how that works

Guess I can try when I get back to pc

Which is the right log? The one it spits out called 'latest'?

[humble tree]

Yes that should be the one. 'latest' means 'latest crash'. There is also one called 'debug' but that's written to even if the game does not crash.

[sudden mica]

do you want that one too?

https://mclo.gs/WLQYVeF

say the word and I'll post a plain text of it

Anyway, it seems like the bottom of the log on that site is missing, and I suspect that's probably important for error reports.

[humble tree]

hmmm yes sort of, mostly because i am not entirely sure if we even see the crash error from that log

i don't see much mention of zero at least

you sure have a lot of errors but they don't seem damning to me, though I'm not a super expert on parsing errors

[sudden mica]

shall I just post the full report? the bottom definitely shows a fatal error at least

a good outcome is a yes or no that it's your mod, the best outcome would be 'which mod is b0rking my game'

[humble tree]

Yeees the full thing, though also on the same website. If they just don't allow pasting it that long, you can .zip it and send it here instead?

[sudden mica]

no prob

damn, that zipped really well, it was over 7 MB as just text

[humble tree]

7z is the goat

[sudden mica]

if you want any more information, I teleported to 'my town' earlier in the game, (actually a Minecolonies colony, but with machines from various mods nearby) and the game crashed as soon as I got there, so I had to restore a backup

[compact coral]

Incoming zip bomb (joke)

[sudden mica]

prior to that, I went into the wilderness and started testing spells, and it just.......crashed a lot

explosions and lightning happened just fine, but the 'conjure water/ice or terrain and launch it' spells killed it every time

I'm actually trying to become adept at Ars Zero so I can make some videos showcasing the spells, but of course, there's so many more options than just the spellbook

[humble tree]

Aight my work shift has begun, so I'll have to come back to you later. Putting a reminder in my calendar

[sudden mica]

no prob, it's 4am here too, so I'll try to check-in when I wake up

appreciate your effort so far, though

[humble tree]

If you don't use Ars Zero at all, what happens?
What is the spell you are casting, also?

I'm not 1000% sure but what I can see at the end is this:

[16Mar2026 23:59:11.037] [Render thread/INFO] [minecolonies/]: Removed all colony views
[16Mar2026 23:59:11.048] [Render thread/INFO] [ChunkBuilder/]: Stopping worker threads
[16Mar2026 23:59:12.537] [Render thread/FATAL] [net.neoforged.neoforge.common.NeoForgeMod/]: Preparing crash report with UUID 73ac406a-63a0-43b3-a115-ca3856d4b913
[16Mar2026 23:59:13.749] [Render thread/INFO] [STDOUT/]: [net.minecraft.server.Bootstrap:realStdoutPrintln:135]: ---- Minecraft Crash Report ----
// You should try our sister game, Minceraft!

Time: 2026-03-16 23:59:12
Description: Rendering entity in world

org.spongepowered.asm.mixin.transformer.throwables.MixinTransformerError: An unexpected critical error was encountered

....


A detailed walkthrough of the error, its code path and all known details is as follows:
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-- Head --
Thread: Render thread

....
-- Entity being rendered --
Details:
    Entity Type: ars_nouveau:enchanted_falling_block (com.hollingsworth.arsnouveau.common.entity.EnchantedFallingBlock)
    Entity ID: 4280
    Entity Name: Enchanted Falling Block
    Entity's Exact location: -422.50, 82.00, -577.50
    Entity's Block location: World: (-423,82,-578), Section: (at 9,2,14 in -27,5,-37; chunk contains blocks -432,-64,-592 to -417,319,-577), Region: (-1,-2; contains chunks -32,-64 to -1,-33, blocks -512,-64,-1024 to -1,319,-513)
    Entity's Momentum: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
    Entity's Passengers: []
    Entity's Vehicle: null
    Immitating BlockState: Block{minecraft:ice}
Stacktrace:

[little iris]

@sudden mica

:mag: Binary Search for Mod Issues

Binary searching your mods lets you find the offending mod faster than disabling them one by one.

1. Make a backup of your instance so you can restore it later.
2. Disable or move half of your mods and then reproduce the issue.
3. If the issue still happens, the broken mod is in the enabled half. Otherwise, it's in the disabled half.
4. Repeat the process with the half that still has the issue until you narrow it down to a single mod.

Keep dependencies together

If a mod depends on others, move the whole group together so you don't create new errors while testing.

How to disable mods quickly?

Move the inactive half into a folder like disabled-mods so you can toggle groups without deleting anything.

Noticed a problem?

Please raise an issue with @young scroll

[humble tree]

This would be my recommended approach, it takes a bit of time... but essentially, disable half of your Ars Mods, try, enable half the disabled ones etc

Eventually you will find a combination of X amount of mods, or a single mod, being the culprit

The log alone does not immediately reveal to me one mod being the devil here

Because there's a lot of LevelRenderer mixins going on at the same time 😢

[small plank]

it seens to blame "colorwheel" mod

try removing that one and see

[humble tree]

Holding straight up water and fire (???)

[floral garnet]

so i've been making a new fern spell staff from scratch to be compatible with 1.21.1 and upon trying to test it in game all I get is the debug model block

can anyone tell me what Im doing wrong here? the model loads if I add the custom model predicate to the vanilla wooden axe

[humble tree]

might be better to ask in #1019655534900678737

[floral garnet]

ah okie i wasnt sure if there was sum special I was missing i havent fully wrapped my head around how your staffs pull the models n stuff

you made your own parent model right?

[humble tree]

wdym by parent model?

[floral garnet]

{
"parent": "ars_zero:item/spell_staff_display"
}

those are the contents of the mage staff json

is it a geckolib model

[humble tree]

yes

https://github.com/zeroregard/Ars-Zero/blob/main/src/main/resources/assets/ars_zero/models/item/spell_staff_display.json

this is just the display settings for the staff

like how it should show in hands, in inventory etc

this is the actual staff model:
https://github.com/zeroregard/Ars-Zero/blob/main/src/main/resources/assets/ars_zero/geo/spell_staff.geo.json

[floral garnet]

m yeah i saw that file, adding my custom model data to that one failed completely

I guess i have to make the staff as my own gecko model

[humble tree]

whatcha trying to do?

i was thinking if you're trying to make a specific ars zero staff look like a different model you could just use transmogify?
or is it because you want this on a server that doesn't have that, then yeah 🤔

[floral garnet]

I want to give the spell staffs frieren beyond journeys end inspired models

im running my own server with a pack im working on so I could try that maybe

I also want to preserve the casting circle animation

i saw your mod in a yt short and was instantly like mmm frieren in minecraft time lol

[humble tree]

frieren was 100% the inspiration for the casting circle and beam : D

[floral garnet]

you did greattt

its only missing the models fr

I shall learn gecko now

[humble tree]

its really simple with gecko, you can just get the blockbench extension, create new Gecklib Animated model and then import another open project

then export geo model, done

[floral garnet]

oh okay

[humble tree]

mm btw i'm working on filials right now. if your resource pack is simply changing the model, adding filials will 'force render' stuff like these, on top of the model

however!

i could make it look for bones, so e.g. if you had frieren's staff and you did want to render smth instead of the red gem in her staff, i could do something like:
if no filial: show bone 'no_filial'
if filial and bone 'filial' exists, show it

[floral garnet]

ou yeah that'd be neat

[floral garnet]

I need to create my own mod to add a geckolib model or am I missing something

[small plank]

You simply resourcepack-replace the .geo.json in geo instead of the json in models

You need to have the plugin for Geckolib on blockbench to make models in that format

[floral garnet]

nothing changes when I do that ack

[compact coral]

What does the file path look like?

[floral garnet]

rn its going assets>ars_zero>geo>item

just realized prob dont need the item folder anymore should i get rid of that

[compact coral]

I think so, yeah. Do make sure your model is a GeckoLib model, too.

[floral garnet]

yeaz i exported it from a gecko project

is it bc im trying to use the custom model data predicate maybe? my end goal was to be able to replace it with one of two models and be able to have both so I did it that way

I guess that was it I have a model now finally yays thank you everyone!

[floral garnet]

is there a trick to getting the new texture to load it keeps grabbing the og texture

[sudden mica]

ah I'm back

or, I will be, give me a sec

[floral garnet]

sooo close lol

[sudden mica]

Yeah, I dunno what the colorwheel is though

this is ATM10, I didn't pick these mods myself

[sudden mica]

But I see the strat, I'll remove Ars Zero first and make a new world to see if the crashing continues (I don't want to start removing mods from a world that already had them, for obvious reasons)

and I guess I'll go from there

Getting the game to work without the mods is hardly an option for me though, I'm trying to make videos in exactly the Ars mods, but it'll at least narrow down whether that was causing the crashing

I'll let you know when I get around to it, gonna eat first, weirdly exhausted

[humble tree]

Hmmm good question... Because that's kind of baked into the renderer class 🤔 you'd need to create 16 textures

[floral garnet]

so like include one for the spell_staff_red etc you think?

it looks like its pulling the spellbook texture oddly

[humble tree]

so your model is currently referencing what looks like the regular spell_staff texture, aka the purple one

it's a very unoptimized texture ngl

you see it has the spellbook texture within it :v

your model happens to be more sane and use the UV in the left hand side, that's why you are seeing what looks like a spellbook

[compact coral]

Okay, but I need to know why the staff textures include the spell book textures...

[uneven spindle]

Staff is just long book

[sage mirage]

oh god

[humble tree]

i have nothing to say in my defense

the 'gOoD nEwS' is that this texture is just as big as a regular spellbook texture.
the bad news is IT REALLY DOES NOT NEED TO BE

im just using like a quarter of space

the manipulation filial inserted into a staff looks like... like...

[uneven spindle]

grab

[sudden mica]

Right, reporting in

was gonna start with your checklist, but I had a hunch because of this

went into my mod list and found that there was a mod called 'colorwheel' as well as 'colorwheel patcher'

updated them, booted the game, haven't had a crash since

even made an ice and terrain throwing spell using the focus of block-shaping, expecting that those spells or that focus specifically is breaking the game

but no, terrain and ice fires smoothly with no crashes

don't think I did anything else, deleted a few shader packs that said 'obsolete', but the game had been running for hours without crashes by then, so I'm guessing it was the colorwheel mods

they just needed an update

I can see it, cuz when I update mods, things break; hitting 'update all' is asking for trouble, so I rarely update anything more than the basic ars mods, so maybe it was just so out-of-date, the game was breaking because of it?

thanks for the help though, both you and Alexbuncle

[humble tree]

Noice. Glad it's fixed! As always, Alex is the MVP 🫶

[zenith stream]

Indeed

[floral garnet]

hmm so how would one go about forcing it to grab the new texture

[cyan gorge]

Cool no staff items do they effect the spells in any way

[zenith stream]

You mean new staff items?

[humble tree]

yes, they add power to the relevant school of magic

I might also do some additional bonuses for them, but needs to be something small and stackable. Because you can also hold this item offhand, to get even more power

[humble tree]

depends a bit what your goal is. if you only want to have 1 texture, and it ignores the dye, you must also overwrite all the 16 textures with the same image copy

ars_zero/textures/item/spell_staff_*.png

[floral garnet]

yippieee

[humble tree]

NIIICE. lol at the custom model for fern

@restive oyster went for 'drip' instead of circles. like liquid mana

Custom static staves, even with custom (cosmetic) filials!

[restive oyster]

this is perf

10/10

[floral garnet]

thankk its actually just a normal skin with 3d player skins and the gender mod

[compact coral]

Sauce

[winter phoenix]

golly

this week bouta be crazy huh

crazy suggestion but

can you make rewind work with conVergence to do a tick freeze

[zenith stream]

that sounds laggy af

[winter phoenix]

huh why?

its tick freeze

it should be doing the opposite of lag

[zenith stream]

depends on how tick freeze works
if you were on a server it would affect everyone

[humble tree]

what is a tick freeze?

I am guessing you mean "skipping" a tick for an entity?

that does sound like an insane idea. I think it may be possible ?

[deft sentinel]

I presume they're wanting something like the /tick freeze command in newer game versions.

Which stops everything except players.

[compact coral]

https://tenor.com/view/za-warudo-jojo-bizarre-adventure-power-gif-14292027

[primal sun]

[restive oyster]

Just fkn time stop?!

Lmao

Sounds wild

[humble tree]

Stopping everything sounds game breaking

[dense flame]

Hello, the Ray glyph doesn't seem to work well with the staff

[humble tree]

yes, true. A known issue but I didn't investigate yet

[small plank]

In which way?

As the initial cast or in other spots?

[dense flame]

Thank you, is there a tutorial of sorts for the Ars Zero Glyphs? I've only learned to use temporal context now

[dense flame]

It seems to work okay for now, but sometimes the ray would fire backwards

[humble tree]

There's only the video by bucket and then there's some entries in the ingame documentation (tattered tome? I think it's called?)

[humble tree]

Iirc it's an issue of using ray in begin, and then the point it hits for tick is not respected/passed correctly for context. I did debug it a bit some months ago but forgot to go deep enough to figure out if a fix was possible within Ars Zero or NEG

[dense flame]

@humble tree I think I know what bugs it now, the spell circle. The ray hits the spell circle when placed on Near

[humble tree]

Oh reaaaally

[dense flame]

https://medal.tv/games/minecraft/clips/mloUqHNlGlHyJrMVY?invite=cr-MSxsME0sMzkxMjQ0NjQ5&v=31

[zenith stream]

what if you removed near?

[dense flame]

it's the same, as long as the point you're targetting intersects with the magic circle, it will get blocked by it

[zenith stream]

hm

[sudden mica]

So Geometrize...........I use it, a wireframe shows up for 1-2 seconds, too short to rescale it to my needs, then it disappears and an arcane golem spawns

.....is this the expected behavior?

trying to get it to show the wireframe until I'm done with it, but maybe I'm just dumb, like I was when i couldn't get the Megumin spell to work (forgot to hold it)

[zenith stream]

in the tick phase do context sustain

[sudden mica]

I think I've tried that, but I'll try again

oh ffs, it's working

thanks bro

[zenith stream]

ofc

[humble tree]

What are these smooth animations by the way?

[sudden mica]

smooth?

granted I've got shaders on, but it doesn't seem much smoother than what I'm used to

is it maybe GPU power or something?

oh hang on...........when he strafes in the air

I think I know what you mean now, Steve doesn't usually lean when he flies

I was trying to look at the framerate smoothness

[small plank]

Either a resourcepack like fresh animation or a mod dedicated to flying anim

[dense flame]

It's a resource pack called Detailed Animation

[humble tree]

2.0.0-beta1

• fix: incorrect timing for tick delay
• fix: block group entity logic, no longer needs to be enabled in config, but only works for piston-pushable blocks
• add: new block group entity rendering
• add: blighted forest biome (dead archwood log, dead archwood leaves)
• add: necropolis (blighted soil, blight vein, bone chest, ossuary beacon)
• add: acolyte, necromancer, lich, bone golem
• add: staff filial logic and 8 new filials, per school of magic (Emberclast, Crux of the Sea, Vortex Gale, Oakheart, Ossuary Sigil, Crucible, Soulwell, Metacorpus)
• add: new loot staves - Staff of Demonbane, Staff of Geometrize, Staff of the Explosion Arch Wizard, Staff of Lakes, Staff of Switcheroo

[primal sun]

👍

It's finally updated. I've been looking forward to it for a long time

[uneven spindle]

Sick filial names

[humble tree]

May contain BUGS, hence the beta. I put it as 2.0.0 mainly because it now contains a new biome + structure, i.e. it alters worldgen.

I'm also not 100% sure if this is the full changelog, as I got pretty sloppy with commit messages as time went on for this one

[uneven spindle]

Okay so what do the filials do

Buff their corresponding element? Act like foci?

[humble tree]

They'll add +3 power to that school of magic

I'm also open for suggestions for other/further bonuses, but it probably should be something stackable

[uneven spindle]

Neat!
I’ll have to remember that next time I play around with the mod

[obsidian hemlock]

what does this do

[humble tree]

this protects the item from being destroyed by e.g. lava or other things that would normally destroy an item entity if you drop it somehow

well, okay, not anything

[primal sun]

Have you considered adding descriptions about new structures and new enemies in the ARS Zero section of the ARS documentation?

[humble tree]

I haven't actually haha but that should be done for sure!

[dense flame]

Bro.. i just published our official server🥹

If i update ars zero, would it still be fine?

[humble tree]

tbh wouldn't recommend, it is in beta for a reason 😄

[dense flame]

I see alrighty, the update looks tempting though

[humble tree]

not the end of the world and the biome itself will probably not change much, but there is likely new bugs with e.g. block entity groups, i have not had the time to test things in depth yet, that's my next phase now

[echo drum]

missing lang entry 😄

[humble tree]

thaaanks, snuck in a fix

2.0.0-beta2

• fix: missing lang entry add: custom renderer for creative spell staff
• fix: all spell staff item rendering
• fix: tick phase not firing if begin is empty
• add: docs about blighted forest
• remove: docs about examples
• fix: telekinesis not having correct renderer
• add: Staff of Aetherwalk

For beta1 I forgot to mention I added a new OP command, /tplocate. It locates a structure/block/biome and teleports you to it when its found

[echo drum]

oh, yeah I was curious are the new mobs and such only llocated in the structures/biome? Or is there some kind of transformation to make them?

Haven't had much time to sit with the mod yet

[humble tree]

They only appear within the Necropolis - but, you can actually make bone golems. It's like making an iron golem except bone blocks + (wither) skeleton skull.
But it won't be friendly. I haven't tested if the perk from ars affinity cancels it attacking you or not.

I have not added recipes for everything yet, e.g. Corrupted Sourcestone can only be mined, not created, but I will probably add an imbuement chamber recipe for this for automation, if someone would have the desire to build with green bricks. They're purely aesthetical really

You can craft bone chests though

[small plank]

sounds like you'll have to add a blacklist in affinity

[fervent rain]

Okay this is one of the good bugs. Wow. That's like a dwarf fortress class bug lmao

Help! I'm trying to vast a spell, but my magic circles are dummy thicc and the clapping of my pentacles keeps blocking my beams.

[zenith stream]

vast

[zenith stream]

this needs to be either pinned or smote

[fervent rain]

The typo almost makes it better. Not sure if I should leave it or not

[humble tree]

Dwarf Fortress mentioned

how can we sneak in a DF feature to ars zero

Summon deadly fish of insanity inducing miasma

Ngl miasma is actually an interesting concept. Basically a cloud (AOE) version of blight, some translucent area that puts blight on you.

Standing in it too long suffocates you. Maybe that's more like mustard gas but hey

[echo drum]

Found another missing lang entry 😄

also missing a JEED description, where gravity-ridden seems to have it included

[serene ridge]

Punish the player if they kill a cat. Depression spiral

[silver fern]

Hi, I was using the staff and had the caster circle enabled and it was super cool, and I cast a ton of spells and now the circle won't go away even though I am no longer casting spells with it. Logging out and in, taking the staff fully out of my inventory (chest or the ground), closing the game and reloading, sleeping, and disableing the caster circle don't change anything. It just persists. And while cool it is really annoying to have it going constantly. I was wondering if anyone knew how to fix this?

[silver fern]

Nevermind. Figured it out.

[open ocean]

How did you fix it exactly?

[silver fern]

Killed the entity that was the circle. I did not realize it was one.

[open ocean]

ah

[primal sun]

Can players build their own Skeleton Golem?

[humble tree]

Last time I tested it, yes. 4 bone blocks and a skull is needed

[primal sun]

Have you considered adding a spell that directly summons Skeleton Golem?

[small plank]

That completely defies having to make one, no?

[humble tree]

I did think about it. But also thought about what Alex wrote

If you had a summon Bone Golem, then I reckon it should not be hostile to you. But building one should (if you aren't undead)

[sudden mica]

It does seem like the Anima set is under-utilized

it's cool, but adding mob AI into things just........causes issues

dunno if more summons, a control panel for summon commands, or a break-off tree as part of Anima would help it most

Blood Magic is it's own mod, Death Magic? But what spells would that even be?

Maybe I'm just thinking outside minecraft too much, but not being able to summon a zombie seems like a miss

[small plank]

I did want to add a summon undead V2 but without the summon rework I delayed all summon glyphs

[humble tree]

What happened to the summon rework in the end?

[small plank]

Still no news

[primal sun]

I have an idea, to collaborate with ARS Technica and use 'Convergence' to summon a massive arcane hammer

[glacial musk]

Speaking of convergence

What are some uses for it that aren’t just “big explosion” or “I summon the ocean”

[humble tree]

I don't know how to do this without adding a hard dependency to Ars Technica though. I mean i'm the maintainer of both so not a problem from that side

[delicate venture]

I know you can use convergence to channel mana directly into a source jar

as source

There's also the convergence>create terrain, but am not sure how it works

[primal sun]

Are there any update plans recently?

[humble tree]

no, been busy with life

[eternal depot]

you could have ars zero detect if ars technica is installed and then do xyz, or you could make an addon that requires both

[humble tree]

sounds like a lot of work chief

[eternal depot]

thats fair

[glossy bobcat]

Hey, quick update on a conflict with a different mod. Not sure how fixable it is but when using the circlet with a utility vest (toolbelt equivalent) when holding an empty hand and trying to store/retrieve a tool it detects the circlet and the circlet starts popping up/vanishing from the inventory, the curio slot and the hand in turns.
Only once per attempt and as I said not sure how fixable/relevant. I believe it is related to how you implemented the circlet from the chat history

[silver fern]

I feel like I should be able to dig circular holes with the geometrize glyph, but I lack any level of understanding of how it works and am wondering if anyone has done it and what glyph combos they used.

[small plank]

You can probably do that with less headache with Neg's Plane

[silver fern]

Is that another mod?

Cause I would rather use what I have. Right now I can't figure out how the Geometrize glyph works at all and it seems neat and the utility of being able to make spheres or circles seems neat.

[fervent rain]

G3ometrize goes in the first phase, with a shape. Then you can add one other glyph to make ot a flat plane. The spell tp be geometrized is the last glyph/s.

2nd phase is Anchor.

You hold down your cast, use scrollwheel and look direction to move, alt for size? And ctrl for depth

If you have the propagate plane glyph from Not Enough Glyphs, you can add sensitive to it and it gets very very big with modded >10 glyph spellbooks

Otherwise, zero has a bigger circle... but a lot slower.

[small sapphire]

can we utilize Sustaine and Convergense on bema to make a much bigger and stronger beam

[silver fern]

Thanks for the information.

[strange salmon]

pretty sure yeah

[small sapphire]

currentlky it doesent seem to be that way

[strange salmon]

oh i thought you meant using converenge on a spell

thats on a beam

does quick cast not work?

using spell staff

[strange salmon]

that would be insane

i think maybe it applying to entites would make it a bit more balanced

but that would just remove the point of rewind working on blocks

[vagrant solstice]

how long does it typically take for an arcane golem to complete its task? I'm trying ot use this spell to remove a massive amount of water but it's taking a long time

[zenith stream]

Isn't the effect supposed to go after geometrize?

Otherwise I believe the golem will go to about 20 blocks a sec (one a tick) while you have the mana for it

[humble tree]

you are only 'ing at the end. it should be after geometrize in the same spell phase

[nimble tangle]

is there any like library of spells using this mod as im struggling to get the hang of it

[icy osprey]

I gotta ask, does anyone know where I can find the nuggets mod?

I've searched on curseforge and modrinth and could not find it

[compact coral]

I'm 99% sure it ships with base Ars Nouveau.

Are you getting any errors with the version or something?

[icy osprey]

Yeah, the game just doesn't launch, and if it disable ars zero it runs fine

Plus nuggets doesn't show up in prism when I search in my mod list

[compact coral]

No crash logs or anything then?

[compact coral]

It's being shipped inside the Ars Nouveau jar, I believe. You shouldn't need to install anything extra. The only external dependencies I know of (for base Ars Nouveau) are Curios API and GeckoLib.

[icy osprey]

Mind if I send you the crash log from trying to turn it on?

crash-2026-04-07_20.35.41-client.txt: https://gnomebot.dev/paste/mclogs/JZvkC4Q

[compact coral]

I'll try to decipher the crash log, though admittedly I'm not very good at it haha

[icy osprey]

No worries, you're probably better than I am.

Also thank you!

[compact coral]

I can see some lines pointing to a render error but I really couldn't say if that's responsible or there's something else happening under the hood. Sorry. Would need someone more experienced taking a crack at it.

[open ocean]

it seems to be an overly issue from what I can see

something about CompleteableFuture?

@icy osprey

[icy osprey]

I have no idea what that means, but I can't think of any mods on the mod list that have a name similar to that.

[open ocean]

Hm I see

[nimble tangle]

what are the uses of convergence and does stacking it do anything

[small plank]

Did you make sure both ars and zero are at their latest release?

[nimble tangle]

also it seems convergence doesnt hold down for all versions of it when its split

[icy osprey]

Yeah, both are at their newest versions (2.0.0 for Zero and 5.11.3 for Nouvea).

[small plank]

Umh, the crashlog seems just a domino effect

Would likely need the latest.log (needs to run and crash, don't be like some that send the working one 😛 )

[icy osprey]

Here is the latest.log: https://gnomebot.dev/paste/mclogs/9U1J3tf

[compact coral]

I see ... something*

As a note: Do you have SauceLib installed separately? If you already have Elemental or Starbunclemania (I think) it should also come prepackaged so there's no need to install it separately.

I see an error saying it can't find classes from Terrablender.

Is Terrablender installed?

[icy osprey]

That actualy managed to make it work, thank you!

[compact coral]

Yay! Have fun!

[icy osprey]

I will ,thank you! (It seems like terrablender was in fact the issue, wierd that I didn't get the usual "missing xyz dependency" message)

[small plank]

Ah, @humble tree did you make terra blender not optional?

That would explain it

[nimble tangle]

?

[vagrant solstice]

would it be possible to add an aoe modifier for geometrize? the largest setting is unfortunately too small for me

[nimble tangle]

Why has no one answered my questions?

[zenith stream]

It happens sometimes
I blame bystander effect not you
Can you reiterate your question?

[nimble tangle]

I was asking firstly about if there was any documentation or or good sources for baseline spells or how to better utilise the staged spells and then after that I was asking if it is intentional or a bug that when using convergence explosion with split that only one of the convergence circles charges up till you let go whilst the others explode immediately

[nimble tangle]

Also any just like mass destruction or high damage spells utilising the staff would be appreciated

[humble tree]

Correct, yes. I haven't had energy for Ars stuff lately, sorry folks.

But that is indeed the next thing I mean to fix

[nimble tangle]

will it ever be possible to use burst and then beam?

[zenith stream]

It is on 120 but since then it got fixed

[nimble tangle]

There’s no ars zero beam spell on 1.20

[zenith stream]

oh beam

not chain

I read chain lmao

my back

bad

[primal sun]

a bug, the bone golem statue created by the player will attack the player

[vale moth]

when will it be for forge 1.20.1

[uneven spindle]

Probably wont be

[coarse parrot]

I don't understand modding, so I don't know how to do this, but I think it would be cool if the mana cost of telekinesis was proportional to the size of the object.

[small plank]

Size can be estimated by the bounding box I guess

Not sure if mana cost can be made dynamic with zero because in base ars it needs to be calculated beforehand

[small plank]

[2026-04-19 00:17:51] [main/ERROR] [KubeJS/]: Couldn't load tag ars_zero:lich_staves as it is missing following references:[2026-04-19 00:17:51]: ars_zero:staff_demonbane (from mod/ars_zero)[2026-04-19 00:17:51]: ars_zero:staff_geometrize (from mod/ars_zero)[2026-04-19 00:17:51]: ars_zero:staff_convergence (from mod/ars_zero)[2026-04-19 00:17:51]: ars_zero:staff_lakes (from mod/ars_zero)[2026-04-19 00:17:51]: ars_zero:staff_switcheroo (from mod/ars_zero)

idk what are you doing but that tag is cooked

[fresh imp]

huh that's neat

[subtle mirage]

unsure if this is a known issue or not but terrablender is not autoinstalled with ars zero as it being a dependency

however the new biome looks cool af

looks really nice

[primal sun]

I feel there might bea serious BUG. Now this configuration can no longer boot beam for a long time

Not only that, multiphase spell turret naturally has many bugs, such as the inability to boot beam
Come back zero😭 I miss you

[zenith stream]

idea, alt staff that makes spells cost almost nothing but only allows for geometrize and its varients

[primal sun]

This has nothing to do with which staff is used; it's just a BUG

[zenith stream]

Im not talking to you

Its just a random idea i had while playing

but whilst ime here

[unborn elm]

how do i make a voxel move/fire? like i have voxel, but what do i do to launch it

[unborn elm]

nvm

[haughty cypress]

Okay i have a question

with the convergence plus explosion combo what do you mean firepower effects charge rate and explosion radius and ignition and wdym at 8+ it turns into an extinguishing soulfire explosion im confused

nvm i understand it no

now

[primal sun]

🤔

[zenith stream]

what do you mean by boot?
ive held down my test for around 5 min now without stopping

[primal sun]

look this

Beam cannot be maintained for a long time, even if I haven't released the mouse button

[zenith stream]

I see
I dont know what could be wrong with it as when i test it its fine

[opaque mural]

frierencraft...?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1228370179604484116.webp?size=96

[zenith stream]

basically
with also some gods gift on this beutiful world mixed in

[grave torrent]

and 1.20.1 version 🥺?

[zenith stream]

HAHAHAHA
likely no

[balmy willow]

How can I put a spell from A Spell Staff onto a weapon

[small plank]

you don't?

the staff is not the equivalent of a book, it's its own thing

the only thing with the triphase spellcrafting

[grave torrent]

i wnn cry 😭 😭

[primal sun]

You can come to 1.21.1 to play, why stay at 1.20.1?

[primal sun]

You can come to 1.21.1 to play, why stay at 1.20.1?

[grave torrent]

i optimize my world

and it cant work in another versions

and i need redonwload all my mods

[primal sun]

ic

[remote ember]

how does convergance work?

[humble tree]

hi y'all I've been on vacation, now back to the very busy life. i honestly don't know how much time i have for modding anymore. my biggest timesink by far is testing, and I have not found a great way to automate testing unfortunately.
but i do have some good news for...

[humble tree]

you

and

[humble tree]

you!

@reef temple made a 1.20.1 version of the mod. I have not tried it myself at all. I'm not sure if Monkey put it up anywhere, so I'm just going to drop the version here for now. Monkey, if you are not okay with that, I will remove this post again

[humble tree]

nice username btw

[primal sun]

！

hes back

ZERO IS BACK

[primal sun]

good to cu again zero

Unfortunately, there are many issues that need to be fixed by you

[primal sun]

like this

There is one more thing, the multi-stage turret is not functioning properly and I hope it can be repaired

[grave torrent]

OMG 😭

TYYY

[primal sun]

Request zero to fix this bug and the issue of multi-stage turrets not functioning properly

a NEW BUG

😭

Can it be compatible with Create Aeronautics? I hope to use multi-stage turrets on mobile structures

[zenith stream]

outsource it to us

[reef temple]

This version is very buggy i have a newer version im currently working on tho

[glacial musk]

spell staff/circlet question with using "telekinesis" spells (select plus anchor etc, that glyph combo)

is it possible to change the distance your targett is from you using a spell circlet? with the staff you just scroll, but with the circlet it changes your items in your hand

[grave torrent]

ohhhh

[reef temple]

https://youtu.be/SvwKbPsGkLw?si=W_Ll6nlE6IyPIn2W

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Ebti7gX-6m0

This was the last update that i made public my backport has changed alot since these videos

[glacial musk]

this should make it so that the projectile spawned in the tick phase won't damage me, right?

hitting myself with this spell to test it is uh. lets just say a bad idea

[grave torrent]

yoo, peak 😭

[reef temple]

I’m dropping another update today

[grave torrent]

i wnn donwload, is soo peak

[humble tree]

That's a good point, there's no way currently. I could probably intercept that scroll event for when you're using any multiphase spell casting device

[glacial musk]

noted ty B)

I thought I was missing something again lmaooo

[reef temple]

https://youtube.com/shorts/mWZoXRXlopY?si=SNJHM48xxwQaIQ33

Gonna have to keep waiting I ain’t done

[grave torrent]

ok ok o k

[plush terrace]

Theres any way to increase beam size?

[reef temple]

I’ll drop the very beta version for 1.20.1 tonight

[reef temple]

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/ars-zero/files/8035435

[primal sun]

When can the bug 1.21.1 be fixed? 😭

[zenith stream]

hes likely looking into it

[primal sun]

I don't think it's necessary to waste time on making version 1.20.1, as it's already outdated

[zenith stream]

there are quite a few mods still on 120

also thats monkey's choice

[primal sun]

Okay, I respect others' choices

Although there are still many mods, they are outdated and outdated

[zenith stream]

a couple of the most popular ones
blood magic, mana and artifice, botanica and quite a few others are in fact still being actively maintained

Mana and artifice is about to release a new content update infact

[grave torrent]

im testing it, i dont know how use it good but is peak

[reef temple]

Don’t shoot me if it’s not as good as the original

I’ve never made mods before

[grave torrent]

dw dw

is good

is only me i dont know how use it good but i wnna learn

[uneven spindle]

1.20 is still a popular version even if Ars is outdated on it, plenty of people still play it
Its not really wasting time if 1. someone wants to do it and 2. there's a big enough group that may use it

[primal sun]

But as far as I know, the vast majority of mainstream mods have stopped updating 1.20.1, which is a trend

[uneven spindle]

You’re right, a lot of mods don’t backport

But this also isn’t the main addon dev working on both, this is someone else that does want it on 1.20 saying “hey, if you don’t wanna put it on 1.20, I can :)”

[glacial musk]

I figure this is a good time to ask since I've wondered about this for a while,

When you're backporting/porting a mod, what like. Goes into that

Like what do you have to actually do and change (in a very general sense)

[small plank]

adapt the code to the new/older codebase

which varies from simply changing some method names and parameters passed to having to rewrite it almost from scratch and only keep bits of your independent code

[humble tree]

This is rather rude to be honest, but indeed I didn't spend any time on it, it was all Monkey's doing.
FYI there's a LOT of people that really would like a 1.20.1 version so it will not be wasted on them.
but indeed, personally, i don't have enough time to work on it

[humble tree]

what alex said. it can be simple stuff like changing imports... sometimes it's bigger things, like a part of the codebase needing to use a completely new API.

specifically 1.20 -> 1.21 is somewhat annoying because that's when we all decided to switch from Forge to NeoForge (very happy about the switch though, long live neo)

[humble tree]

in due time. you are specifically talking about the spell phase turret bug, right? i've been working on some technical repository upgrades so having a 1.20 and 1.21 versions next to each other gets less annoying for developers

[glacial musk]

That makes a lot of sense, thanks for the explanation 😎

my respect for yall porting/working on porting to 1.21 instead of staying at 1.20 just went up even higher

[reef temple]

And to addon to this going backwards from 1.21 Neoforge to 1.20.1 forge has been especially difficult for first time mod making I’ve basically had to rebuild the entire mod from scratch cause of incompatibility between the two versions so u will see bugs that may have been addressed by ZeroBuncle already to reappear in the 1.20 version

[small plank]

Tbf the vanilla changes def. outnumbered the neo changes

And some were changes to the modloader driven by the changes of vanilla

Most of the major differences have been made post 1.21.1 and we'll see them when porting, not necessarily this year

[remote ember]

im curious does the glyph boost from unlocking them not apply if i start off with the staff instead of the book?

[zenith stream]

they should apply

scratch that they will apply
but it takes casting a spell for it to update

[remote ember]

ty

[glacial musk]

Anyone got some interesting uses for convergence that aren't the two that you're basically told to do

[zenith stream]

The think with convergence is that every use of it has to be coded in
There is no modularity with it
So as far as I can tell those are the only two for now

[rigid aspen]

If 1.20.1 gets support for bug fixes, whenever I use it, it deletes all jei recipes from every item in the game, removing Zero fixes it and i'm not entirely sure what would be causing it

[small plank]

Wow, the vminus special

[rigid aspen]

I see whatever that mod is breaks modded recipes, but I don't have it in my modpack

And the only datapack stuff I've done is taking iron golems off the Drygym blacklist

[rigid aspen]

WIth Zero installed it also breaks vanilla recipes as well

[rigid aspen]

I'll keep it disabled in my modpack for now, the mod looks really awesome so far I'm excited for whatevers coming

[subtle lagoon]

So any offensive spell with the staff that's usable in vanilla?

[subtle lagoon]

With this I made a spell that does 800 dps per second and consumes 300 mana per tick

Tested it on my friend and lets say it was like that video of the cockroach getting blasted with a blowtorch

https://tenor.com/view/roach-flamethrower-gif-20055461

And the spell won't end if you have the tick phase to 1 tick delay

But its obvious that shreds through my mana

[subtle lagoon]

It also seems incapable of harming the ender dragon

[unborn elm]

how do i use convergence -> explosion?

i cant get my head around a spell for it

nvm

is there a way to make it NOT destroy blocks

[ancient narwhal]

i haven't been active for a while, why this mod now require terrablender?

[subtle lagoon]

How'd I go about launching the convergence explosion and delaying its, well, explosion

Most successful attemp was making the voxel create the spell on impact but it doesn't charge it up

[shy nest]

just wanted to report a bug
1.20.1 forge version somehow brokes jei and i cant see crafting recipe of anything with jei

[small plank]

@reef temple since you haven't replied yet to the previous report, making sure you saw it at least

[reef temple]

It’s fixed in latest revisions I just haven’t released it yet.

[reef temple]

If anyone has 1.20 issues ping me and if I don’t reply I will have seen it. I’m in the midst of putting a crop in right now so I won’t be able to respond as frequently

[subtle lagoon]

Can't lower ticks below 10 on the circlet

[old terrace]

best addon on ever

if all of its features get smoothness and customization I feel like everyone will add it to everything

[glacial musk]

Ok can someone break down how voxels work for me

I can’t figure them out

[subtle lagoon]

Invocate a small voxel.
Discharge, water, cold snap, and flame or fiery gives them a respective element but not the functionality of the spell

You need push or some form of leap to actually launch them

Tried to make it into a convergence bomb but no amount of delay makes it charge the convergence

[glacial musk]

gotcha 😔

Tryna make hollow purple and a black hole

[subtle lagoon]

Unfortunately it's right besides convergence with "not enough polish" because it kinda is meant to have unique interactions and not just be "projectile but prettier"

Also is there a way to increase the glyph cap on the staff?

Oh. And I can't modify the ticks on the circlet

[unborn elm]

Funny mod

[subtle lagoon]

I have the exact same spell

[unborn elm]

I just made the circlet 10 various eyebeam spells

[subtle lagoon]

I wish the first devide was only 2 beams

[unborn elm]

I agree. I put on my circlet lightning, fire, ice, debuffs, drowning, digging, shearing (for sheep), healing (also causes starvation), growing (for plants), and one more i cant recall atm

[subtle lagoon]

I also wish there was a config to make the circle use the "hood" and not the head slot

[subtle lagoon]

Mind sharing the starvation one? Kinda trying to level up the infinite Ham and it takes ages since the amount of saturation is based on the actual amount needed to fill the hunger bar

So if you have say only 1 nugget missing (what I call the hunger icon) then it gives like only 2 of saturattion

And the damn ham gets experience per amount consumed.

[true solar]

Do you guys have na issue where the Ars Zero addon breacks JEI I was playing of a 1.20.1 modpack called Pioneer and we added ars zero and it broke JEI/ and was not compatible with REI.

[tepid star]

The placement of the player hand was annoying me so I fixed it lol

[unborn elm]

Just use recovery on self. Recovery drains hunger to heal, but if you have full hp you still lose hunger.

Base ars mechanic

[zenith stream]

[unborn elm]

Yes that

[zenith stream]

Not recovery
Heal
Recovery is a whole different effect

[unborn elm]

True

[unborn elm]

So leveling up relics is waaay harder that way. Ur best off using xp disperser if ur on the beta, or finding a buggy combo or something to max give xp

I find the testing dummies with the jellyfish necklace can work well if you place a bunch and hit them all

[gloomy star]

hello i have a question how do the spell staffs work

[rugged mountain]

how do I increase size of geometrize?

I feel like this could be the perfect mod to make a large scale terraforming spell (since I get a preview of where it terraforms) but I don't understand how to make it large scale (instead of 3x3) v.v

okay, had to make it sustainable, got it

[rugged mountain]

this addon is so friggin cool
pretty much exactly the spells I was looking for <3

[glacial musk]

Is select/anchor players just buggy because half the time it just doesn't work (ik its in the config for a reason)

my main thing is I applied sensetive to select and its still selecting blocks anyway
is there a reason for that

(i am not very good at this)

what REALLY gets me is
staff of telekinesis works just fine

but if I copy the spell 1:1 suddenly it doesn't

[subtle lagoon]

You got 3 spell rows.
1 is your good'ol spell, second is the ticking phase which can allow to make a spell continuous by using temporal context (form glyph that calls back to the first spell phase) and anchor to move around the spell using you as an anchor for it.
Third phase is the ending phase, usually when you stop holding down the spell.

[subtle lagoon]

anyone got a magic shield spell like the one in Frieren?

Tried to replicate it but for some reason it makes bridges

wanted to use the blocks as a shield that follows my cursor and disappear the moment I start moving the shield

[gloomy star]

thx

[lavish basin]

You can apparently chain beams off of beams, or at least thats what I think is happening?

gets a bit silly (and laggy)

Also, does anyone know if there's a way to disable the move speed reduction when casting with the staff, or at least have it off when casting a spell that only has a begin phase so it would have the same behavior as the spellbook?

[ripe flume]

Hello :D

I made a kamehameka spell

You can change it and, when you release, the beam also releases

Needs [Propagate Self] to work

An example on how it looks

I had to lag the game a lot to take that pic, but it's usually instant

It can destroy a lot, make holes in mountains, destroy villages...

[zenith stream]

perhaps replacing with will cause less lag?
also the discard glyph for items

[ripe flume]

I guess, I'll try it

on the contrary, I will not do that

I caused my game to lag so much because of the item drops

[zenith stream]

ic

[ripe flume]

I'll be experimenting to make a bigger beam

nah, it's almost impossible without the game lagging too much

[glacial musk]

PEAK

[subtle lagoon]

Perhaps a void jar with item pickup glyph?

[ripe flume]

I'll try it in a world with a gamerule that disable item drops

[glacial musk]

so
I just found out something silly
uh

convergence will put source into source jars

I have definitely not been source laundering since making this discovery

[zenith stream]

Yea that was it's og purpose

[glacial musk]

Source into jars was its purpose before making nukes and generating oceans O_O

damn

[glacial musk]

so uh

is it possible to make beam apply to fluids

im tryna make a staff spell that just sucks up a bunch of lava

[zenith stream]

See if does anything?

[glacial musk]

I tried that, didn't seem to work

[ripe flume]

What's the use of convergence?

With explosions, it has a cool effect but lags a lot

[glacial musk]

All I know is

-big explosion
-generate source
-summon the ocean

[ripe flume]

that doesn't explain anything xd

[zenith stream]

Basically do
Start phase convergence whatever amps you want Then place one of the gold bordered glyphs (should be explosion and conjure water) after it
Then temporal context sustain
Then hold down a bit

[chilly hawk]

the staves don't seem to be functioning for me, I can't seem to hold down to keep casting a spell

[rugged meadow]

heyoo!
ars zero does work with dedicated servers right? (1.20.1)
I only see the error with this one specifically, where the callback says it's trying to access "net/minecraft/client/gui/components/AbstractWidget"
I may've installed something incorrectly, but it seems too specific to be a general ars issus

[deft sentinel]

That's a bug with that port of Zero.

[rugged meadow]

gotcha, thankye

[chilly hawk]

I can't seem to bind the circlet spell wheel, if anyone could help?

there's no options in the keybinds for circlet spell wheel, only to channel circlet

[glacial musk]

i think it goes off ot the spell wheel in regular ars (?)

[zenith stream]

indeed
infact equip it and pressing c with an empty hand should be enough

[chilly hawk]

okay now I'm very confused, because the regular spell wheel isn't working, and there's no option to rebind. But using the rotary dial on my corsair vanguard keyboard opens thwe circlet wheel?

it's tied to the Function Key and F11? 😕

[zenith stream]

its tied to your spell wheel keybind
though it might get a little weird

[ripe flume]

Hello, how do you make a JJK domain in Ars Zero?

The basic components of one, not a full blown spell

[small plank]

The mod with domains is Ars Plus, not Zero

[ripe flume]

There was a spell that simulated a domain

I recall someone talking about it

@zenith stream Do you remember the domain spell from Ars Zero?

[ripe flume]

I think I found a way to dupe blocks xd

[glacial musk]

can you put multiphase parchments into the spellbinder

also why is this spell naming my skeletons the name of my third spell and not the name of the spell that actually has the glyphs in it

[ripe flume]

YEP
With enough mana regen, you could dupe any block with Ars Zero

Neat :D

I'll record a vid about this

[ripe flume]

I'm pretty sure you could make a cheaper version of the spell I used

[ripe flume]

An updated version of the spell

[small plank]

The key is probably just having the snare on the second and block shaping on the first with the keep on form

As it doesn't check the entity still exists in the world or something on those lines

[ripe flume]

A cheaper version

[ripe flume]

It works on Ars Zero 1.11.1,
it doesn't work on 2.0.0-beta 1

What did you use for your domain expansion?

[glacial musk]

self burst dampen aoe III a bunch of times conjure mageblock

second phase of the spell is a homing projectile throngle variant but using air sword

[ripe flume]

So, the actual domain is just many propagate homing projectiles?

[ripe flume]

100 mana per block duped

[glacial musk]

more or less

[ripe flume]

Is there a way to extend beam's range?

By default, it's 256 blocks

I wanna extend it with propagate glyphs or something

[ripe flume]

Can you give yourself some speed buffs with another glyph?

[ripe flume]

Was there a way to increase the glyph limit for each phase in Ars Zero?

[novel orchid]

how stable is the latest beta?

i'd like to try out some of the new things but i dont wanna end up breaking my world

[lofty seal]

Had some issues with REI and JEI on the latest version. Besides that it seems ok.

[west cloak]

Hey so I have a big with 1.21.1 neoforge v2.0.0 beta that is if I unlock a spell my mana doesn't update untill I use a normal ars spell on the scribes table then spell staff doesn't update the max mana.

[west cloak]

And I would say it's pretty stable i personally have had no crashes

Just the bug

[novel orchid]

i see i see

might update it then

[west cloak]

If you are updating please test the big you can reproduce it that would mean the bug is not specific to my modpack but more broad

[random gazelle]

Is it possible to apply effect only if filter in the previous stage worked out?

[zenith stream]

thats the intended behaviour i belive
though it might get finicky

[random gazelle]

I'm trying to achieve firing additional missile only if I hit correct targets in the previous stage

But I'm struggling to understand what temporal context means

[zenith stream]

basically the target of the previous spell phase is the target of this spell phrase

[random gazelle]

What if I'm doing something like - shoot missile to kill big slime and in the end fire another missile to kill small slimes only if I actually hit big slime

Is it doable?

[zenith stream]

likely
it depends on the filter though
you could likely do a filter monster on the start right before the dmg to filter out the dmg parts
thougrh ive noticed that zero can be finicky with its filters

[fair trench]

can someone help me understand casting circle stuff? inthe video from the mod page there's two casting circles one on the caster (near) and one on the target (feet?) but i can only ever get a casting circle to appear on me (feet or near). How'd he do that?

[zenith stream]

its a setting on the left side on your spell crafting interface

[fair trench]

i onlyt see "casting circle" setting which seems to only affect me and not my target

[zenith stream]

ah

[fair trench]

maybe it's because i'm not using explosion like in the video and it only works on that because maybe that's one of the only spells sustain works on?

[zenith stream]

okie that one is done by using convergence explosion

[fair trench]

i'm not surre i fully understand sustain glyph

OR convergence for that matter

i was hoping to make a less destructive but just as impressive spell that just does massive harm or something but still looks cool

or grow with a cool casting circle on the ground whereit's growing

[zenith stream]

its easy just do something like convergence then in the tick phase temporal context and sustain
hold down the cast button for a few seconds after it landed and voila

[fair trench]

sure but can that be done with other glyphs than explosion? i haven't got that working. 🙁

[zenith stream]

when you put convergence down any gold bordered glyph is compatable

[fair trench]

ok i'll take a look at that

[honest tendon]

is there something im missing? why dont crafting ingredients show up when i try to craft a glpyph in the scribes table. Using the beta 1.20.1

[small plank]

Beta 1.20.1 is a backport made by another dev, it apparently has some bugs

[shy nest]

Yeah 1.20.1 version is made by monkey i reported this bug 2-3 weeks ago and he said that he is aware of this problem and will be fixed at new versions

[honest tendon]

Ohh okay

[proper pagoda]

Hi, I need help creating a spell. I want the base to be the same for all elements. I want a bean to come out from somewhere near the character and hit where I'm aiming, and upon hitting, apply the elemental damage combinations. I want to make a version of this spell for each element, and have the laser active while I'm holding the button. However, all my attempts have failed because the cost was too high. Can anyone help me?

[dry vapor]

Is there any way to make a normal spell parchment using a staff instead of a book, or would I need to still have a "standard" book for that? A normal spell parchment that only captures the begin phase and nothing else would be fine and expected even

I ask because I also use Ars Additions and I noticed that multi-phase parchment can't be put into spell binders, but I was hoping to use a staff as my primary casting method and have one-shot utility spells on parchment in a binder so it would be better if I could avoid the hassle of managing a normal spell book just to scribe spells onto parchment for the binder

[reef temple]

Can you send me a video of the problems you are experiencing