Harm Cannon - Fire gatling successor [NOT WORKING ON 1.21 onward]

[ocean trout]

That's why I'm bringing it up

[lavish stratus]

YOU MIGHT BE ONTO SOMETHING

[ocean trout]

Thought so

[tepid basin]

dawg what

u made a spell able to delete boss fights in seconds

but could care enough to check its performance with foci😔

i always thought it needed the fire focus tho

[ocean trout]

It doesnt

[lavish stratus]

fire gatling needs fire focus

[tepid basin]

-# fran is online these days, dont say that word so carelessly

-# on second thought u can go up against fran ngl

[tepid basin]

i see

mandela effect

[lavish stratus]

i need not "go up" against fran

[tepid basin]

ok

[scarlet swan]

If you didnt have access to chain would you do AOE instead?

[lavish stratus]

yes

[scarlet swan]

ty

[dusky lichen]

i tried the first spell and i healed all the dmg i've done

but they die on the burn effect

(without the chain glyph)

oh nvm

1.21 type shi

[serene canyon]

I can't seem to use burst and sensitive together in this modpack, is it still worth it compared to fire gatling then?

[ocean trout]

are you 121?

[serene canyon]

1.20.1

[ocean trout]

fair

if it doesnt work then just add more aoes

[sturdy hemlock]

?
?

[serene canyon]

don't have those spells yet

dragons kick my butt

[ocean trout]

oh wait i thought you were talkint about chain and burst

[lavish stratus]

quite honestly sounds like pretty good balancing

[bold delta]

glyphs*

[stoic barn]

question: will "chain" from Not Enough Glyphs give me the same effect as chaining from Too Many Glyphs?

[bold delta]

probably

[stoic barn]

I'm bouta try it

OK!

turned my game into a slideshow, but did kill everything on the screen

but will it kill... the warden

No it will not

[ocean trout]

what version are you in?

[stoic barn]

1.21.1

I'm playing skies 2

[ocean trout]

ah

you dont have the i frame skip

so thats why it didnt kill thewarden

[stoic barn]

is there a way I can not dont have the i frame skip?

I guess I can take crappy kindling thread off

[ocean trout]

Well it's still a powerful spell you just aren't getting as much dmg

[stoic barn]

so in 1.21, hellfire + heal != i frame skip

it is still really good though.

whew

I just went through all 5 stages

I'm good now

[ocean trout]

In 120 the iframe skip exists

Not anymore but there are still some good spells out there

I think the best repository out there currently is ars. guide
You can check out #1398729663127355443 for more details

Tho I tested them all in 120

[stoic barn]

hell yeah

[lavish stratus]

dawg

big bold letters

in the title of the post

[ocean trout]

To be fair it's bloated out on mobile

[lavish stratus]

maybe so

[stoic barn]

No it makes sense now but originally I thought you meant broken in the sense that it was way too overpowered

[ocean trout]

Yea

Fair

[stoic barn]

But what I really want to ask you about is ATM

[ocean trout]

Ah there aren't many spells for that

One I can remember is #1340850874674839592

[stoic barn]

Specifically 1.21 ATM 10

[ocean trout]

Yea I don't think there's many yet

[stoic barn]

[ocean trout]

Well

That's one

[lavish stratus]

rage glove

and x29

[bold delta]

do you have the nullify glyph

[stoic barn]

Umm.. idk. I'm not at my PC rn. I'm pretty sure we have ars additions, ars elemental, ars énergistic, and ars ocultas as well as not enough glyphs in skies 2. Idk what if any glyphs each one adds.

[bold delta]

no i mean

is it enabled

its part of elemental

[stoic barn]

Oh cool. Then it's no problem if I don't have it yet I can unlock it easy I'm sure

[bold delta]

it needs to be enabled

in configs

[stoic barn]

Oh word. Ok I can do that

[bold delta]

it just

removes iframes

[stoic barn]

So it's not a glyph?

[bold delta]

if ur wondering

it is

a glyph

its just disabled by default

[stoic barn]

Ahh

I'm just playing alone no server so should be no problem

Ty!

How do you people know all this stuff? Are you unpacking the jars and looking at them?

[bold delta]

no its just

it was mentioned in an updae

update

also this is why its not working on 1.21

[stoic barn]

🤦

[ocean trout]

Just staying around in the server

[bold delta]

anyways the iframe bypass thing was

as you can tell

a lil overpowered

thats why they removed that

[bold delta]

true

[stoic barn]

Things sure have changed. Back in my day (1.7) we had to watch a whole lets play with no chapters and vague episode titles to figure out how anything worked

[bold delta]

1.7 mentioned

that reminds me of when i used to use that one spider queen mod thing

[ocean trout]

This is why I do what I do for things like #1398729663127355443

[stoic barn]

In the spell review. Would it be a big ask to have you put the scores or like an aggregate overall score next to each spell in the TOC?

[ocean trout]

I can do that

[stoic barn]

You're amazing. I'm old and probably won't be able to check out each individual spell

[ocean trout]

Lol real

[stoic barn]

am I missing something? Is enabled is true, but I'm not seeing it in the scibe table

[bold delta]

im pretty sure you still need to make it

[stoic barn]

Sorry! I found it

Its not in the scribe table but it is in the spellbook

[stoic barn]

can confirm. Does kill the warden now :p

[mint basalt]

I desperately want that in 1.20.1

[buoyant sinew]

"I wonder what will happen if i remove the self glyph and add domain from adams ars plus, then i use an enchanters mirror"

Game crashed

:)

[ocean trout]

Yep that'll do it

[devout bolt]

would a second amplify of harm cannon increase the damage or does it mess it up

[ocean trout]

amping the dmg should just amp the dmg

[lavish stratus]

yeah just dont use amplify 3

[sturdy hemlock]

Cuz that goes over the cap?

[lavish stratus]

mhm

[buoyant sinew]

Can someone help me to do the math of this monster of a spell? :) (I just want to know how many projectiles this variation spawns)

[ocean trout]

We love graphs

So with one you have a volume of 81 times 16

With the chain and then another 3-5 or so with the echoing strike

[buoyant sinew]

Thank you sir :)

Now i have to find an iframe Skip that works with 2 glyphs 🥲

[ocean trout]

Are you in 120?

[buoyant sinew]

120?

[ocean trout]

Version 1.20 of Minecraft
I assume so

[buoyant sinew]

Yes im testing in 1.20

[ocean trout]

So you just need the thread of kindling in a t3 slot and near the end

[buoyant sinew]

After some tests i approximated that this spell generates 70000 to 200000 projectiles at medium distances, but it can generate a lot more projectiles at its full potential

[ocean trout]

That's a little insane usually my game with about 32gb allotted to it crashes when I create more than 32k cs shards at one time

[buoyant sinew]

The only way my Minecraft doesnt crash is because i put particles on minimal so the ars nouveau lights become invisible, and use entity culling so the invisible entities dont render

[ocean trout]

Fair enough

[buoyant sinew]

Im pretty sure my Minecraft crashes with 250k+ projectiles with this config

[ocean trout]

Tho it also means the spell is unviable in most situations

[buoyant sinew]

Yeah but at least is funny to use

[lavish stratus]

I'd put a propagate self before p. homing

and just fire up

[ruby plover]

Does this work with 1.19.2 and what’s the chain emoji

[drifting jungle]

Holy moly

[sturdy hemlock]

Yes and the chaining glyph from NEG or TMG. It is not necessary and can be replaced with

[ruby plover]

Ok thanks

[teal mirage]

“The design is very human”

[tepid basin]

dam

After the new title is crazy

[wise tundra]

my spell is not dealing this much dmg

and it costs a lot

[kind jolt]

what version, and are you using a t3 kindling thread?

[wise tundra]

latest and yes

[ocean trout]

Why is that a pic?

#1222573197619101728

[north ledge]

9

[ocean trout]

my udder dumbass did not notice we were in the thread

[lavish stratus]

if one more person says "latest" I'm deleting every message in this damn thread istg

[pearl rampart]

tempting

[nimble turtle]

how ya day lately? :3

[mint basalt]

I've been kinda blue as of late

[pearl rampart]

I'll have to come up with something later

[wanton venture]

What's the latest spell you've come up with

[nimble turtle]

you should not say that last sentence Lava

[pearl rampart]

welp it's over

i am sure lavabuncle will be elated

[lavish stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/bob-monsters-vs-aliens-bob-monsters-vs-aliens-gif-15334975776705148571

[nimble turtle]

Hi Lava, feeling better lately?

[pearl rampart]

look at that smile.

[wanton venture]

I wonder what about Kindling 3 makes this possible

[pearl rampart]

Hellfire.

[ember dune]

@wanton venture

What are I-Frames?

I-Frames or Immunity Frames, are durations where a player is invulnerable to damage. Ways to bypass these immunity frames are referred to as I-Frame Skips.

In the base mod, there are no I-Frame skips available. In 1.21.1, Ars Elemental adds a glyph called Nullify Defense that will reset an entities I-Frames. In older versions there are other I-Frame skips available.

Please check out "What is an I-Frame" on Ars.Guide for more information.

Noticed a problem?

Please raise an issue with @pulsar ore

[queen orbit]

mhm people cant read

[lavish stratus]

jarva you legend

[jovial magnet]

server

Literally so good it makes server cry(crash) when using aoe 2 or 3, and game too easy

linggango modpack

[pearl rampart]

a second person who has mentioned that duolingo modpack. wild.

[lavish stratus]

aoe2 💔

[keen roost]

https://tenor.com/view/asuka-angry-anime-evangelion-bostar122-gif-19654230

Keep it up and I release AoE 4

[pearl rampart]

why not aoe 3.14

[ruby plover]

Pls

[mint basalt]

Can we get aoeΦ

[lavish stratus]

aoe i

[pearl rampart]

i want aoe i

propagate fractal

[wanton venture]

chaining into the ghosts in the 4th dimention

[wanton venture]

dang this isn't effective against the wilden chimera

[pearl rampart]

this is why i just drop the wilden chimera into a pond and throw rocks at it

[ruby plover]

It is for me

U just gotta get more dmg boost

I one shot a l2 trait wilden chimera with it

[astral fox]

In my world, the fire gattling didn't even do 20 damage. I think I did something wrong.

[lavish stratus]

surprisingly enough they're on 1.20.1

[sturdy hemlock]

Oh

Alright

That... is kinda unexpected

[earnest tulip]

usually just something that doesn't make the fire status apply

or a very rare case like the chimera where the heal method doesn't fire the event by design

[wanton venture]

maybe they forgot kindling like the first time i tried

[mint basalt]

Maybe they turned it off

I-frame skipping is a config in 1.20.1 iirc

[sturdy hemlock]

Really now?

[steel phoenix]

i see some people add hex to damaging spells that shouldn’t have it. is that similar to a hellfire hidden thing?

does the hellfire heal skip not work for later versions? is there another way?

[ember dune]

@steel phoenix

What are I-Frames?

I-Frames or Immunity Frames, are durations where a player is invulnerable to damage. Ways to bypass these immunity frames are referred to as I-Frame Skips.

In the base mod, there are no I-Frame skips available. In 1.21.1, Ars Elemental adds a glyph called Nullify Defense that will reset an entities I-Frames. In older versions there are other I-Frame skips available.

Please check out "What is an I-Frame" on Ars.Guide for more information.

Noticed a problem?

Please raise an issue with @pulsar ore

[sturdy hemlock]

Hex decreases healing and increases damage

[steel phoenix]

thanks

[ocean trout]

bump

[west patio]

how do i set up the spell

[ocean trout]

here

[queen orbit]

im still suprised people can't read at times

[ocean trout]

Amen

[dire dew]

What's reading )_)

Never heard of it

[ocean trout]

its really easy ail tuo hemc tj to ic ner thnsdl ncnlswe jciwhds jsne k s an jshc hruid shs

[dire dew]

Ez

You obviously said

I don't like them but I eat tomatoes for breakfast anyways

[bold delta]

wrong

he said

"its really easy ail tuo hemc tj to ic ner thnsdl ncnlswe jciwhds jsne k s an jshc hruid shs"

[dire dew]

No there was definitely tomatoes mentioned

[bold delta]

llook at it bettter

its really easy ail tuo hemc tj to ic ner thnsdl ncnlswe jciwhds jsne k s an jshc hruid shs

[sturdy hemlock]

Its really easy, all you have to do is (ner thnsdl ncnlswe jciwhds jsne k s an jshc hruid shs)

[pearl rampart]

honestly why do we even need to explain how to tuo hemc, let alone why you jsne an jshc hruid shs

[ocean trout]

J hoth rjxut?

[ivory perch]

I was just about to ask something but then I read.

[pearl rampart]

I know right?

[bold delta]

funny

[dire dew]

What's reading

[teal mirage]

I just want people to know that if you have rage gloves on atm10 this combo still works

Even better yet, you can drop the healing part

Because even though the hits won’t go through iframes

It still registers as a hit for rage gloves

Leading to crazy amounts of damage

[dire dew]

Best dam thing ever

[pearl rampart]

if you're going to use rage gloves just ragecut.

until you're out of glyphs

then it's free

[dire dew]

True

[vivid hazel]

i dont have Ars trinkets is there a option for the spell without overhead?

nvm, got it, its written at the beginning

sorry

[lavish stratus]

at least you can read

[hallow widget]

How to go about this without t3 kindling and only fire focus?

[kind jolt]

You need to apply hellfire by using
I would recommend looking at https://discord.com/channels/743298050222587978/1105253489820565504 for more ideas

[grizzled fiber]

put this on a maxed cross bow

my game shat itself :(

[lavish stratus]

"and who set that system up"

[grizzled fiber]

normal it did like 60 million dmg

got some apotheosis gem addon

for ars

this would have done mad dmg bc of rage glove

ITS RUNNING AGAIN!!!

nice dmg xD

[ocean trout]

tasty

[grizzled fiber]

now i have to put multishot maxed with apotheosis on it

:)

hmm yes

what could go wrong

1,5 x 10^18 dmg

finale dmg

after 6 minutes screen freze xD

i think i can do this on the server now and kill anyone

[lavish stratus]

do not

do NOT

do that on a server

[grizzled fiber]

thats not the fianl dmg

game just un froze

xD

[pearl rampart]

its wild to me that people really do go

'i should make the game unplayable for everyone'

[grizzled fiber]

bro

its single player

chilllll

i wouldnt use that on the server

[pearl rampart]

'i think i can do this on the server now'

[grizzled fiber]

fair enough

but dont plan on doing this fr, ruins everyones experiences

besides, if wanted to deal with some one that badly i would use better methods

this some how messed up my game i do crazy dmg with my fist...

[grizzled fiber]

why is the one for pvp diffrent?

[lavish stratus]

homing doesn't target players by default.

[grizzled fiber]

oh okay

[tranquil oxide]

What can I do to make this spell not crash my server xd

[ocean trout]

remove an

[tranquil oxide]

What would anyone recommend if I don’t have overhead ?

[kind jolt]

self

[tranquil oxide]

Preferably without sacking dmg

Cuz ik that with self some will miss

Should I just use on a crossbow ?

[kind jolt]

It doesnt miss because its literally homingb

[kind jolt]

can get pretty laggy, but sure

[keen roost]

Just use an enchanters mirror and use the extra glyph slot to make up the difference

[tranquil oxide]

What should I put extra ?

[lavish stratus]

with self some of the projectiles spawn in the ground and resolve instantly.

[tranquil oxide]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1351460981724676187/1456486089719156767/image.png?ex=695889df&is=6957385f&hm=e8f767afa40008d7eb78a8cba0c3b7810c0263a4e4f2701aa51435102cb83980&

This spell is legit

[tranquil oxide]

The spell seems to do 0 damage litteraly using it on a mirror

Wierd

[hallow widget]

it's not that some wwould miss, it's that some go into the ground
if you wanna have less of this you can jump before you cast the spell

[hallow widget]

XD

[dire dew]

Get to 0

[whole horizon]

I’ve been there for 13 months now

[dire dew]

Okay 👍

[modest roost]

I tried the spell on wither and end dragon, it doesn't worked, someone knows why?

[sturdy hemlock]

They're immune to status effects, so basically can't get hellfire which is the main agent for skipping IFrames

[modest roost]

So no bypass for them i guess 🙂

[sturdy hemlock]

Only nullify_defence in 1.21

[modest roost]

Ok, thanks !

[modest tangle]

im really sorry to ask but im using atm10 and its asking me to reset before being able to use chain

[ocean trout]

Yea so you are on 121.1. not only does chain not work with burst anymore but the iframe skip doesn't work either

[modest tangle]

so no op spells?

[ocean trout]

Not exactly
You just have to be more creative

[sick tundra]

if you can get your hands on glyph codexes and the nullify defense glyph isn't disabled you can make iframe skip spells

[pearl rampart]

He's on ATM10.

The nullify defense glyph is not going to be enabled.

[ocean trout]

Yea

[cerulean turtle]

Why i don't have the chaining spell ?

[ocean trout]

Cause it's part of an addon

[ember dune]

@cerulean turtle

Result for search: chaining

**Effect:** Chaining from Not Enough Glyphs

Causes a spell to chain through multiple grouped targets, either similar blocks or living entities other than the caster. AOE increases target count. Pierce increases maximum jump distance between targets.

AOE: Increases the number of targets struck.
Pierce: Increases the maximum distance between targets.
Sensitive: Restrict chaining to same-type entities and to exposed blocks. If two are added, chaining on blocks will only happen where the hit side of the block is exposed.

Tier

2

Cost

300

Per Spell Limit

1

[cerulean turtle]

Oh ok and can i do without it ? What's the equivalent of the railgun spell ?

[ocean trout]

For harm cannon yes
Though you will only get 1/16th of the projectiles

And the Railgun spell is #1141341426223960064

[cerulean turtle]

Ok thx and for u what's the best spell for the most dmg without add on ?

[ocean trout]

It would probably still be harm cannon

[cerulean turtle]

Ok and where can i get the correct way to make it ?

[ocean trout]

Think about it for a sec

[cerulean turtle]

...

I can't find the equivalent

[ocean trout]

You are asking for the way to make a harm cannon

In the harm Cannon's thread

[cerulean turtle]

Yep, it was just to avoid searching the thing in the feed for 29393 years

Little bit exagerated

[ocean trout]

It's at the top of the page

[cerulean turtle]

Yep

I find something but it juste tp the entity beside...

Can't you give the me the link to make it

[ocean trout]

I could yes
And I'm sorry that I'm dragging this out
But the answer is in front of you and I know it will feel much better for you to figure it out on your own.
So you want a way to make a harm cannon without the
We are currently in the thread of the harm cannon. With the sequence for the og harm cannon right there. There are no other documented ways of making the harm cannon except for this one

How can you get what you want?

[cerulean turtle]

Mmmh

Ok let me 2s

Delay ?

Cause i tried something but it make no huge dmg

[ocean trout]

Wait just to make absolutely sure
You are in mc version 120

Right

[cerulean turtle]

1.21.1

[lavish stratus]

can you read

[cerulean turtle]

yep of course

broken on 1.21, does it mean that it is realy powerful or just doesn't work ?

🙂

[kind jolt]

doesnt work

[cerulean turtle]

ah

lol

ok

so what's the best for latest version

[ocean trout]

You should probably change it to "ineffective"

[cerulean turtle]

yep because for me broken mean op then again i'm not a native english

[ocean trout]

I knew it was going to be misinterpreted constantly

[cerulean turtle]

sorry

[ocean trout]

It's not your fault dw

You have nothing to apologize for

[lavish stratus]

it is fundamentally broken

[ocean trout]

Correct however the word broken is prone to misinterpretation

[lavish stratus]

"ineffective" suggests it's still useful, just less so

[ocean trout]

So "doesn't work"?

[ocean trout]

Though that is still tru

[lavish stratus]

fair 'nuff

Harm Cannon - Fire gatling successor [NOT WORKING ON 1.21]

[ocean trout]

There we are

Hopefully that will get the message across

[dire dew]

No it won't

[bold finch]

hey do they work on mc eternal 2?

[lavish stratus]

check yourself

[wanton venture]

seconds per frame

[whole horizon]

5

[buoyant cedar]

2 things I can’t for the life of me find overhead and chain, and I hate it when I see atm10 in anything, like lemme see normal ars Shi and not atm10

[kind jolt]

Both are from an addon called Not Enough Glyphs
If you dont have it, replace overhead with Self, and chain with

[buoyant cedar]

So 2 AOE

[kind jolt]

Yea

[lavish stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/aladdin-cave-of-wonders-who-disturbs-my-slumber-big-cat-gif-15741041

[buoyant cedar]

Me sir

I request knowledge

How much player damage it do

And do I need need a thread of kindling

Or will it work with flame spell focus

[kind jolt]

A lot, as long as you have a after prop homing

[kind jolt]

You need kindling, i dont think fire focus will work

and specifically at t3

[buoyant cedar]

Alright

[buoyant cedar]

Will it work with t.o armour??

[kind jolt]

no

[lavish stratus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1342474383842742334/1384301763993014283/togif-23.gif

[pearl rampart]

listen, these are people here to do max damage because their friends are pvp

if they were literate by definition they wouldn't need to ask anything

[ocean trout]

Oh that's a new one

[wanton venture]

burned at the stake

[sturdy hemlock]

Nice

[buoyant cedar]

I meant is it necessary

Cus I can fucking read

[lavish stratus]

the first sentence in the post.

THE FIRST FUCKING SENTENCE

[buoyant cedar]

Yes I can see

[buoyant cedar]

I mean I don’t know how the fuck to use all that so is it absolutely necessary is MY FUCKING QUESTION

[lavish stratus]

what do you think

[buoyant cedar]

SO FUCK YOU TOO

Ass community

[lavish stratus]

the fuck did i do

[buoyant cedar]

Oh really

Look who can’t fucking read now

[buoyant cedar]

Message to the entire ars community, be patient with others cus it’s fucking complicated mod, and maybe treat your members better

So fuck yall

[lavish stratus]

you could've asked how to get the thread???

[buoyant cedar]

I know how to get the thread

Idk how to fucking use it tho

[lavish stratus]

could've asked

[buoyant cedar]

Not when you act like you did

Rather ask someone who isn’t rude

[lavish stratus]

instead you asked a question with an obvious answer and proceeded to hurl insults when i pointed that out

[buoyant cedar]

Well not my fucking fault I don’t know half the shit to do with this complex ass mod

[lavish stratus]

my guy

I would've gladly taught you how to use the thread

[buoyant cedar]

Once again not from you

So thanks but no fucking thanks

[lavish stratus]

I ain't even do nun 😭

[buoyant cedar]

Mhm

Rude and ass community

I’m out

[lavish stratus]

"I'm out"
stays

[buoyant cedar]

Out of the conversation

Not the server

I don’t tend to leave servers

[lavish stratus]

(unfortunately so)

[buoyant cedar]

Wow

Just wow

Happy now, I left

[lavish stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/squid-game-squid-game-2-cheers-happy-excited-gif-13406404385856133045

[nimble turtle]

https://giphy.com/gifs/lets-go-mr-johnson-abbot-elementary-5dhiUwk4eVaPMfKPZa

[pearl rampart]

yessssss

complex ass mod like

"i cant make ae2 craft a strongest spell item"

botania was more complex

[ocean trout]

the dandelifeon entry in question
(agreed though)

[pearl rampart]

botania was always great for that actually, 'here are a bunch of REALLY cool things you cand o'

and whoops, everyone just makes a gajillion endoflame

I actually used to try to make dandelifeon work

[ocean trout]

ive found that shulk me nots are really good if you have a setup

[bold delta]

Aw the left already

That just makes his point weaker

Since he was part of that segment of the community that sucks

So it’s becoming better with him leaving

[whole horizon]

Anti-literacy at its finest.

[sturdy hemlock]

Well... Another annoyance less

[bold delta]

does this work on 1.21, do i need ars elemental, and do i need a t3 kindling thread?

dude i didnt get an answer in 0.1 seconds 😡 this community sucks 😡 😡 😡

also what does the harm glyph do

[nimble turtle]

I know you being sarcastic, but somehow it still annoying

[wanton venture]

victorian era witch trial

[bold delta]

bro how are you so rude this community sucks so much

[nimble turtle]

[dire dew]

https://tenor.com/view/eated-ate-art-yummy-art-eated-art-ate-gif-15344207012940134151

[wintry basalt]

why cant i add it

[nimble turtle]

Because you cant. 1.21.1 they change it so burst and chain not work with each other anymore

[wintry basalt]

is there a substitute or sum?

[nimble turtle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wintry basalt]

maybe nullify defense or sum

[sturdy hemlock]

You gotta use nullify defense, but still can't combine burst and chaining

[teal mirage]

To be the devil’s advocate, when you’re dealing with new stuff everyone tends to do mistakes, it’s part of learning

Hell, I wish discord started these threads at the top because it would save so much time on everyone’s end

[pearl rampart]

so i personally have made countless mistakes in my life

one of the really cool parts is not making that everyone else's fault or responsibility to fix

also, 'ars is a complicated mod' is hilarious

ars nouveau is literally asking you to successfully construct a sentence using pictographs

Now, the thing is, if people were like 'wow, why does this work, how do these words fit together', fine, cool, amazing, I would love that.

instead we get this

[bold delta]

The worst part is they don’t even read glyph descriptions

Or any descriptions

[pearl rampart]

Straight up, I'll acknowledge there are glyph interactions that aren't -immediately- obvious.

[bold delta]

Kindling STATES that it applies mage burn

And guess what the fire focus desc says

Heal removes iframes

They should be able to put 2 and 2 together but they can’t

I sure wonder why that’s useful in a spell designed around that interaction

Hmm

[slender sand]

Kindling does not work Vs fire immune targets, correct?

[ocean trout]

Yes, however
The t3 version of kindling doesnt simply light someone on fire it applies an effect called hellfire which converts burning dmg to magic dmg therefore allowing you to set fire to fire immune entities

[slender sand]

So as long as it's on a t3 slot it just ignores fire immunity

Including players, blazes, etc

[ocean trout]

pretty much

[earnest tulip]

elemental might get 50% more glyphs in one update if i keep at this rate

[ocean trout]

lol
noice

[earnest tulip]

and i still have to see someone using conflagrate

[ocean trout]

i think I covered a few spells in ars.guide that did

[ocean trout]

[nimble turtle]

oh nyo

[slender sand]

spell has issue with bosses sometimes hmm

vs anything else works always tho

[ocean trout]

bosses usually have a tag that makes them immune too most status effects
hellfire is a status effect

[sly tapir]

I do have a question (mainly because im newer to making high dmg spells, so this will sound stupid) what is the purpous of using heal if you are trying to dmg? Is it just to combat undead or smthn else like iframes

[lavish stratus]

iframes!

niche ars mechanic

when a mob has the hellfire ffect and they get healed it resets iframes

tier 3 kindling thread applies hellfire

[rare karma]

hey guys could someone make this spell but for the new Ars Zero mod

[sturdy hemlock]

You yourself ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[pearl rampart]

#1222573197619101728 message ask this guy

[dire dew]

[bold delta]

I was tempted to say something like “yourself”

Thats genius

[queen orbit]

its "complicated" cause it doesn't make use of just a spell that you just craft and then deal max damage like electrobob's or something

meanwhile hexcasting:

[queen orbit]

tbf its not obvious that heal for some reason removes iframes, least i haven't acknowledged it until i ever found this thread

[bold delta]

It’s

Acknowledged in the guidebook

[queen orbit]

hmm

not the glyph description right? i only ever read those while crafting stuff lol

[bold delta]

Idk why it’s only listed in fire focus due to threads

But it is

[queen orbit]

hmmm

yeah dont remember it exactly, i only looked at block focus and thought of what unhinged stuff i can do it with not fire focus nuking stuff with iframe removal tbh

:/

"why would anyone build for full auto spelling of course the iframe is gonna destroy everything they hold dear" -me oblivious

[bold delta]

Yeah block shapers description is GOATED

[queen orbit]

explains everything that you wanna know

[bold delta]

Led to me making a temu obsidian railgun before joining the dc

[queen orbit]

im sure everyone made a railgun with it at one point or another

[bold delta]

True

It’s simple AND effective

[queen orbit]

if you exclude stuff like these iframe removal spells isnt it still the king of damage

haven't played ars for a year i think now so might be wrong

kek

[bold delta]

But yeah I don’t think most people would think of it

But they should atleast put two and two together

[queen orbit]

its one of the more unintuitive ones kek

[bold delta]

When they see tge spell

[queen orbit]

other than that i find people dumb for not reading

and then questioning why it not work

[bold delta]

Depends on addons but usually

[queen orbit]

usually yea

[bold delta]

“Do I need kindling thread”

[queen orbit]

"guys it no work on 1.21"

[bold delta]

That ones even dumber

It’s literally in the title

[queen orbit]

it was rewritten several times for people to not do that

yet people do

[bold delta]

It is funny seeing them tho

[queen orbit]

not funny when the guy gets pinged tbh

[bold delta]

Forgot they ping sometimes

[queen orbit]

(always)

*pings help

[bold delta]

Most of the ones I remember don’t ping
Some of them reply ping tho

[queen orbit]

i mean ive seen lava get pinged way too many times

i remember discovering the blockshaper harm cannon nuke gatling tho it was fun experimenting to find that

it also nukes the server too so noone can play

[bold delta]

Sometimes in apotheosis packs more dps is done to tps than players

[queen orbit]

i mean with blockshaper

anything is possible

[bold delta]

Not really
Its limit is more capped

But is strong on some less overtuned packs

Since the highest people usually get is like 75 with railgun

And it’s not affected by spell power iirc

[queen orbit]

no the cool use blockshaper with some spell that creates blockes to create more focal point shit

there was a deleted off thread about this variant of the harm cannon

it nuked the server

it killed some of the user's servers

i know blockshaper was nerfed a bit(or so i heard, though havent had the time to test it) but it is still the "anything is possible" alegory

[bold delta]

I mean as in it’s not really able to scale with ciscos and such well but it’s really strong for vanilla

[ocean trout]

It is

[tepid basin]

Its not working am i doing something wrong guys

oh btw ATM10 10-4.13

[ocean trout]

so you wanna take a look at the versi- wait a funking minute SHOWBUNCLE

[kind jolt]

Dang i just got april fooled

[ocean trout]

HA HE FELL FOR IT

[oak wharf]

how to get thread of kindling? im in 1.8.9

[lavish stratus]

Harm Cannon - Fire gatling successor [WORKING ON 1.21]

due to a recent update to ars elemental it now seems to work on all versions

[tepid basin]

Yeeee

[tepid basin]

nowaywhatdidyoujustsay

[pearl rampart]

wow that's so crazy dogggg

[ocean trout]

[runic bloom]

is there any spell that is similar that does work in atm10

[whole horizon]

No.

[queen orbit]

just initiate a time stop and chuck obsidian for 2 hours

should work

[sterile forge]

can anyone simplify this .. i started ars few days back an i'm liking it

so any simplified way i can do this .. (what armors, what extras and what tier book and the proper spells respectively)

[oak wharf]

first: are you on 1.20.1? the thread name saying working on 1.21.1 was just april fools
second: do you have toomanyglyphs and ars elemental?
third: acquire glyphs in the spell
four: put them in a t3 spellbook
five: get mage armor with a tier 3 thread slot
six: put a thread of kindling in the tier 3 thread slot using an alteration table
seven: cast spell

[sterile forge]

i'm playing atm10 ..so 1.21.1

what will be a good damage spell that will not lag the server

[oak wharf]

idk, i'm on 1.20.1 so i have different available addons

[sterile forge]

👍🏼

[earnest tulip]

april first is over, update title

Harm Cannon - Fire gatling successor [NOT WORKING ON 1.21 onward]

[lavish stratus]

thank you

[sterile forge]

guys any good spell for atm10? Whic will not lag ?

[oak wharf]

https://discord.com/channels/743298050222587978/1340850874674839592

apparently a bit of lag but i mean you can probably tone it down yourself somehow

[ocean trout]

Or #1480426488821059654 o

[grizzled fiber]

nuh uhhh, not anymore

they removed rage glove in 6.2

[marble fulcrum]

Indeed many packs going this route of removing rage gloves

[pearl rampart]

No, I think Relics itself removed rage gloves.

The Infinite Ham died too

[marble fulcrum]

Ah, noticed in both a 1.20.1 and 1.21.1 pack (atm 10 and Linggango)

[ocean trout]

oh interesting

[oak wharf]

inf ham died too??!?!?!?! wtf

damn now you need another more effortful route for seagull proof infinite food

[lavish stratus]

HELL YEAH

those are the two i always removed from my packs

[pearl rampart]

I mean, the Everlasting Steak still exists

getting rid of the rage glove is /categorically/ a good thing, but also I'm torn on the ham because Finding The Ham was fun early-game priority

[burnt karma]

what do the chains mean?

[pearl rampart]

there is a chain glyph.

[ember dune]

@burnt karma

Result for search: chaining

**Effect:** Chaining from Not Enough Glyphs

Causes a spell to chain through multiple grouped targets, either similar blocks or living entities other than the caster. AOE increases target count. Pierce increases maximum jump distance between targets.

AOE: Increases the number of targets struck.
Pierce: Increases the maximum distance between targets.
Randomize: Randomly excludes valid targets from the chaining, creating less uniform shapes.
Sensitive: Restrict chaining to same-type entities and to exposed blocks. If two are added, chaining on blocks will only happen where the hit side of the block is exposed.
AOE III: Increases the area of effect (stronger than AOE II).
AOE II: Increases the area of effect (stronger than AOE).

Tier

2

Cost

300

Per Spell Limit

1

[burnt karma]

yeah i dont think its in the version im playing

[ocean trout]

What version do you have?

[burnt karma]

all t2's

[ocean trout]

If you are on 120.1 you have it
You just need not enough glyphs

[burnt karma]

ohh

[burnt karma]

what weapon do you suggest i use this with

[bold delta]

None

[ocean trout]

Just a spellbook
You should not put it on a weapon
It doesn't work out very well

[bold delta]

Just use the book usually

Though

[burnt karma]

so just my archmage book?

[bold delta]

If you are feeling silly

Enchanters crossbow is an option

[bold delta]

Yeh

[burnt karma]

i cant find overhead

[pearl rampart]

look up what MC version with what ars addons

[sterile forge]

how can i use this in atm10 new version?

[ocean trout]

thats the neat part
you dont

[vapid marlin]

damn, i wonder what version ATM10 is on

[lavish stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/use-your-brain-joe-bartolozzi-funny-memes-meme-stupid-gif-16825119743901351939

[keen roost]

On this note it’s really coming to bite me in the ass trying to appeal to the most illiterate people in history

[pearl rampart]

it is genuinely fascinating to watch

[pearl rampart]

if you actually had guts you'd write a lingering spell that causes the caster to toss items and explode them constantly and call it a harm cannon

[pearl rampart]

even write underneath it

"this will destroy your entire inventory and is purely a literacy test do not use"

[lavish stratus]

im so doing that

[pearl rampart]

i have done my part for the betterment of society

[kind jolt]

How does this look lmao
voids your entire inventory

[whole horizon]

Including the offhand?

[oak wharf]

harm cannon if it was good

[pearl rampart]

Oh man this even looks like a damage spell

[kind jolt]

good question, forgot to test that
does not void curios, mainhand, offhand and armor

[whole horizon]

Hmm

Sounds like room for iteration

Also, does it remove amulets and other accessories outside of the main 36?

[sturdy hemlock]

Have you tried death?

[lavish stratus]

self throngle clears

[oak wharf]

most packs have corpses / gravestones

[pearl rampart]

yeah who the devil is playing a pack where your items drop loose into the world in 2026

[chilly lynx]

im new to this and confused what are the chains 😭

[kind jolt]

chaining a glyph from Not Enough Glyphs
If you dont have it in you modpack, just replace it with an AOE

[pearl rampart]

We could just take this time to ask what minecraft version the modpack is on and save us all a bunch of time.

[lavish stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/disable-ping-discord-reply-pinging-gif-15468901801272782706

[chilly lynx]

thanks 🙏

[chilly lynx]

guys am i stupid

im tryna hit a player but

they take no dmg

i think its cus they have prot 4 but idk if that would affect it taht much

😭

[pearl rampart]

so is the surprise going to be that they're on atm10 do you think

[tepid basin]

Or the kindling thread

-# whispers quietly

[lavish stratus]

possibly

now whats ur version

[chilly lynx]

1.20.1

[chilly lynx]

😮‍💨

[kind jolt]

did you put sensitive after homing

and use kindling 3 thread

[lavish stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/nowhere-desert-highway-gif-13971394

[keen roost]

https://tenor.com/view/right-now-it’s-just-that-everything-feels-right-sorry-amanai-gojo-sorry-jjk-gif-6689060642723775612

You’re finally free lava

[pearl rampart]

hey guess what lava

[earnest tulip]

Oh damn, go to test that on #1439684116902711366

[pearl rampart]

Yeah, I had to do some real shenanigans on ATM10 to actually level it that high, to be clear, but I have the shenanigans. I /have/ the power.

[mint zephyr]

Onion ring hard and xp distributor hard carried me to maxing out my relics

Did it in like a day

[mint zephyr]

This goes crazy with the purified affect

Unfortunately it doesn’t seem to effect all summons

Mostly, slime, undead, and wolves from my experience

Doesn’t effect vexes

Haven’t tried bees

[pearl rampart]

xp distributors stack

fyi

[mint zephyr]

No way 🥹

I was holding off on that

[pearl rampart]

and on rank 3 they spread your gained experience as well

[mint zephyr]

Because I thought it wouldn’t

I have like 4 xp distributors sitting in my inv

[pearl rampart]

your problem becomes you run out of levellable relics to level the distributors

[mint zephyr]

I got a use of charm slots now

[mint zephyr]

?

Maxed out distributors ignore that

[pearl rampart]

yeah

i had 9 distributors

they didnt make it to rank 5

before i ran out of relics

[mint zephyr]

Shame

[mint zephyr]

Idk if you have artifacts but maybe you can try mimic dust?

Let’s you reroll artifacts

[pearl rampart]

yeah i should do that probabpy

[mint zephyr]

How on earth did you run out of levelable relics first tho?

They get so much ranks

Oh yeah btw ring of seven deadly sins(gluttony ver) gives you a +100% stats on a buncha of stats(it says everything but some are exempt)

Just for having a more then half hunger bar

[mint zephyr]

This includes ars stats

Like spell crit dmg & chance, mana regen, etc.

[mint zephyr]

Oh and I recommend going for onion rings then just vein mining the mining dimension

[mint zephyr]

Pretty sure this is multiplicative meaning that if you stack the max amount it’ll give x16 stats on nearly everything

Idk about this tho didn’t test it yet

[pearl rampart]

yep i got that maxed

and a loot pinata sword with knowledge of ages

[mint zephyr]

Niceee

[pearl rampart]

i could stack two of em but ehhh permalocking my riiing sloots

[mint zephyr]

OH and did you know that the angler hat allows you to fish any raw ore in the game?

[pearl rampart]

iiinteresting i did not

[mint zephyr]

This includes but isn’t limited to unobtainam and isenium

I butchered both of those names

But it’s crazy 😭

It was actually wayyy stronger as it gave the ingot version

^any ingot in the game

But atm team nerfed the loot table

There’s also another atm block dupe because of it

Going to stop writing sm because I’m crowding up chat so here’s the video I watched https://youtu.be/8TMDUPZwTso?si=pvgqm52RXbC7C16Y

[sick dew]

still the best version?

[pearl rampart]

define 'best'

[sick dew]

least lag with good dmg?

prob lower amount of mana

[pearl rampart]

oh ok

[sick dew]

Id the top one the best,

?

[lavish stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/wake-up-dracula-hangover-leslie-nielsen-gif-14211396

[mint zephyr]

He’s back from the dead

[sick dew]

Imma go with yes

What could i nerf here for less lag

Could i augment the aoe with dampen

To slightly reduce it

[lavish stratus]

the reply ping button

[lavish stratus]

you can't augment augments

[sick dew]

Whoops

Whoops again

Forgot to turn that off

[kind jolt]

Delete aoe

[sick dew]

anyone think the spell would be useful without the chain glyph?

or is the chain replacable with something

[earnest tulip]

Chain is there only to boost the number of projectiles spawned

In theory it can be simply replaced by more aoes

[sick dew]

Idk, calculations made it seem like it one shot anything but apparently all it did was drain my friends hunger bar and break some armor😭

[oak wharf]

ah, still seems very practical

[sick dew]

It does, but uses too much of my mana to be viable rn sadly

Ill have to wait until armor upgrade before i can use this

I think being able to use it twice or thrice in a row could make their bar 0

[bold delta]

Idk try experimenting

[sick dew]

nah lag aint a problem it js does no dmg

[sturdy hemlock]

If that's the case, you can try my spin on the 'ol harm cannon
#1279312525283823671 message

For PVE:
🌀💀💢
For PVP:
🌀💀💢

Both versions require a in the curio slot, and a geomancy focus in the offhand
Plus, as much geomancy equipment as you can get, to buff poison spores' damage

[sick dew]

Are these all base ars + ars elemental?

I dont have additions or anythin

[sturdy hemlock]

ye

🌀 is homing
💀 is envenom
💢 is poison spores

[sick dew]

Bet bet

[sturdy hemlock]

, as per the [erm actually](#1252888862976639068 message) thread

[sick dew]

Lmao why it called that

[sturdy hemlock]

Why wouldn't it?

[sick dew]

Makes sebse

[earnest tulip]

why is that the icon for spores

instead of like, 🍄 or 💮 idk. competes with actual rage glyph, even if that could just be 😡

[sturdy hemlock]

Cuz it goes for likeness, not meaning

Only exception is ⛓️

[earnest tulip]

i mean, the more similar is 🌸

[sturdy hemlock]

Context

[versed anchor]

Ok 2 questions are any of these spells possible with only ars elemental and ars nouveau

And what spells should i use against my friends

[ocean trout]

one
harm cannon is good with elemental and base
however version 120 is needed
second #1480426488821059654

[versed anchor]

Also i just tried harm cannon atleast the one at the very top and its not doing any damage

1.20.1 btw

[ocean trout]

Do you have a thread of kindling on a teir 3 thread slot?

[versed anchor]

Yeah

All it did was lag my game didn't do any damage

[ocean trout]

And the spell you used was a carbon copy of the one shown above?

[sick dew]

Yeah mine didnt do dmg either

I think this spell got nerfed

The heal glyph completely nerfs the dmg

[maiden jewel]

i maintain that this is stupid and counterproductive to actually promoting community engagement by introducing more documentation nobody is going to read in order to be able to participate in discussions

but the server is already borderline hostile to people who aren't at least averagely agreeable

[sturdy hemlock]

I do try to always write what the emojis mean

[ocean trout]

when fran puts it that way

hmmm

[sturdy hemlock]

But I'll always use them since it makes it that much more pleasing to the eye

The link is just for people that are interested

[versed anchor]

So just remove heal?

[ocean trout]

king

no

heal is crucial to facilitate the I frame skip

[versed anchor]

Hmmm what should i do then

[ocean trout]

can I see the spell you are using and the armor peice that holds the T3 thread of kindling on there?

[sick dew]

Need the heal for i frame skip but heals too much for good dmg

Rlly good for breaking armor tho

[ocean trout]

thats why is there

or you can the heal

[sick dew]

It said for fighting players dont use envenom

[versed anchor]

It doesn't even do that

[versed anchor]

Its the exact same spell that he put at the top of this thread the harm cannon one and the armor peice its on is my leggings

[versed anchor]

That might be why

I did not see that

Yup that was the problem ty

[sick dew]

It does good dmg now?

Sadly i have no mana

[versed anchor]

Yes

[versed anchor]

I have like 4k

[pearl rampart]

Now, if you were yelling at someone like me being a jerk, this is fine.
But here you're going to posit that it is incumbent on people not just to, unpaid, produce documentation and provide it to people asking, but to individually hand teach the same topics from scratch to people who have demonstrated an active unwillingness to learn?

People who are either unpaid, or perhaps like me actually -do- pay to be here? That is the level of free labour you're demanding? Because the alternative is people taking my position: as soon as someone asks how to 'do more dmg', I block them and dni.

Yes! Hobbies have jargon. Go play an MMO and you have to swim through it to learn.

[lavish stratus]

sir that's hex

[lavish stratus]

what

[pearl rampart]

oh

i was. replying to fran

and it lost it

fran going off about how just linking documentation is bad or whateber

[pearl rampart]

this

[maiden jewel]

this is not what im saying - im saying that abstracting the glyphs as emojis when they already have perfectly usable names doesn't reallyprovide any benefit and disproportionately alienates people who aren't "in the know"

[pearl rampart]

Except we tend to express spells as a series of icons.

Frankly, when I saw ⛓️ or whtaever for the first time I went 'huh weird' then I went 'hm, that's a 'chains' emoji, look at that! Chain is a glyph!'

[maiden jewel]

for things like that yeah sure its cute and intuitive

[pearl rampart]

It provides a quick shorthand. Iconography is not unknown in video games.

[maiden jewel]

adopting these shorthands as unofficial jargon organically is fine and i wouldn't be opposed if thats what happened
I think what bothers me is that it feels very much like an artificial lexicon
like it's not slang, but a conlang based loosely on slang that already exists

like discussing what emoji poison blossoms should use when there isn't really one that makes sense without having to use nitro

the solution is to just say "poison blossoms", not arbitrarily pick some emoji and point people to a translation index when it is inevitably unintuitive

I don't want to have to provide bottomless aid to people unwilling to learn as much as anyone else - which is why I think it's irresponsible to abstract basic concepts artificially where an urgent need to do so has not already been demonstrated. People been using fake nitro to use addon glyphs from companion server for ages. Using words in square brackets as substitutes where there aren't emojis

[pearl rampart]

I think I understand why you might go ⛓️ 💢💢 rather than like
(chains) (poison spores) (poison spores) personally.

and yeah maybe you need a reference guide for it, but again, this isn't unusual or unprecedented in video games.

I MEAN, I could say something like 'we have 250 emote slots could we not put more glyph emoji in'

and obviate the problem entirely

[maiden jewel]

personally i'd format it as ⛓️ [spores] [spores]
... well, ok, I'd use but not everyone has nitro

7 keystrokes for [spores] vs ~4 for 💢 (assuming autocomplete doesn't have to contend with a bunch of nitro emojis) isn't a terrible lot more effort and it reads much more cleanly

[maiden jewel]

yeah truthfully this is the real solution

[pearl rampart]

🌸 honestly I'd be using this

because it at least looks like the damn spore blossom

but WHO AM I

[ocean trout]

a cool person

I do agree on cherry blossom being used as a sub

[nimble turtle]

🥓

[ocean trout]

ray

[sturdy hemlock]

Dude. If they ask, just say what the emojis represent and link them to the [erm actually](#1252888862976639068 message) thread

That's my modus operandi

Works, doesn't require much explanation and let's me use my emojis

[maiden jewel]

the whole point im trying to make is that the standards for what means what are completely arbitrary and trying to force it as a standard is awkward

[sturdy hemlock]

Oh yes, definitely

[maiden jewel]

especially when a decent chunk of people won't adhere to the standard anyway

its solving a problem that doesnt exist

[sturdy hemlock]

But people like me want emojis, and to avoid total chaos we just agreed on some emojis

And the thread is always right there. They can discuss our propose if they want

[sturdy hemlock]

The problem is, I don't want text in my spell glyphs.
So I use emojis which some people have agreed to

Other people can join, or just use the translation if they need the spell
-# remember, I try to always add a translation below the spell

[maiden jewel]

I guess. but maintaining an expectation that newcomers should have to learn this standard to participate in discussions instead of it being like. an exception to the norm is a dangerous stance to hold

wont stop you, can't stop you from using the functional equivalent of a conlang though

[sturdy hemlock]

In that you're right

[sturdy hemlock]

Most if not all, do not adhere

What makes you think there's any expectation

[maiden jewel]

re: #1222573197619101728 message

as well theres an implicit expectation that it should be known whenever theyre used and the reference index is not provided/a translation is not given

[lavish stratus]

yall should write books

[sturdy hemlock]

But with medieval sounding long ass titles

[pearl rampart]

Okay but if I'm in an ff14 room and someone goes 'OK, MT takes clock 1, OT takes clock 2, RDPS goes to 4,5,6, TH stacks on tower', it's reasonable that we are going to have to explain what that means to the uninitiated repeatedly.

[sturdy hemlock]

I somehow missed this.
You can argue your point in the thread
I'll change it to whatever is more popular

As in, you can use whatever you want, but if you like I can change the current list

[versed anchor]

Ok idk if im doing something wrong but sometimes the spell doesn't kill anything

[sick dew]

What im sayin

[sturdy hemlock]

Minecraft version, modpack, complete spell, equipment

Unless we know that, we can't help you

Also, what are you targeting?
Animals, mobs, bosses, players?

[versed anchor]

It its ver 1.20.1 modpack is my own and the spell equipment is awakened void archmage with a few threads (idk what they are as of right now) the spell is exactly what op put at the top and i was trying to use it on the void archmage at first cause i found this after i got the armor and was gonna use the spell to get the same archmage armor for my friend

[sturdy hemlock]

So first, a lvl3 thread of Kindling is absolutely necessary
Not having that equipped will break the spell

Secondly, enemies immune to fire / hellfire are also immune to the IFrame skip used in this spell
So no infinite damage

[sick dew]

I had both of these and played on the same version this dude did, i couldnt even kill my friend in diamond

[sturdy hemlock]

Did you use sensitive on homing?

[sick dew]

Exact spell from above

[sturdy hemlock]

Yeah. So homing requires if it's to target players
Otherwise most projectile will just fly by

[versed anchor]

Have that and they aren't

[versed anchor]

Sensitive is in the spell at the top of the thread

[sturdy hemlock]

Are you still testing against that "void mage"?

[versed anchor]

Not currently

And the void mage is the one that drops the soul

I forgot their name

[sturdy hemlock]

So what did you test against?

[versed anchor]

The void mage

[sturdy hemlock]

I see an error in your logic

[versed anchor]

That didn't work idk if its just him

I am currently laying in bed

[sturdy hemlock]

after homing is only for players

[versed anchor]

Not testing the spell i already tried

[versed anchor]

I used the one for bosses on it

[sturdy hemlock]

Mobs and animals aren't targeted by

[versed anchor]

The one without sensitive

[sturdy hemlock]

And again.
Make sure your bosses aren't immune to fire

[versed anchor]

Which worked on the one that drops advanced clockwork

[sturdy hemlock]

This whole mechanic is reliant on things catching on fire

[versed anchor]

Hes not

The boss takes fire damage

[sturdy hemlock]

Then test and see if it gives off particles or not

[sturdy hemlock]

Then maybe that mod is somehow protecting the boss

[versed anchor]

The mod that adds the boss?

It makes the sound of it hitting a shield

Idk if that changes anything

[sturdy hemlock]

Then there might be something

I can't help you with that

[versed anchor]

Ok

[keen roost]

That means that he "blocked" the hit and negated the damage

[versed anchor]

Dang

Oh well

[keen roost]

the manipulation mage has a shield block on a cooldown

[versed anchor]

Yeah it has no problem with the manipulation mage since it kills him before he uses the shield

[bold delta]

@hallow oxide

[hallow oxide]

thank you

what mod is overhead from?

[bold delta]

I think either NEG or TMG

[ember dune]

@hallow oxide

Result for search: overhead

**Form:** Overhead from Not Enough Glyphs

Target the block above the caster head.

Tier

1

Cost

5

[hallow oxide]

thank you

[bold delta]

Yw
You can use that command to find certain glyphs

Or you can use wall instead of chain+overhead

[hallow oxide]

weird, i have that but its not existing

[bold delta]

Wall sensitive*

[bold delta]

Oh

What version are you on

Might’ve been added after 1.20

[hallow oxide]

minecraft 1.20.1, NEG version 3.2.1.1

guess im using self

[earnest tulip]

I think in 1.20 overhead was already provided by another mod, maybe trinkets?

[bold delta]

I think it was tmg

[ocean trout]

its tmg

[earnest tulip]

Nah, overhead was made by SoSo