Ars Additions

[slow inlet]

I looked in the config file Ars_additions Server

[radiant trail]

Can you use a book with thorns III + some random enchant for making retaliate?

Well it seems like it doesn't even accept a thorns III

Okay it worked !

because it was made from using combining thorns II, it had an extra nbt tag

so you could enchant it on an item and then disenchant it with a different mod and it lost that tag 😁

[leaden flint]

are warp nexus teleport locations saved per player?

[candid fractal]

I noticed that this mod hasn't been updated for a while. Are there any plans for updates in the future?

[knotty escarp]

Should be some theories floating around about how to incorporate the tier 2 codex entries and the tier 3 ones.

But, hopefully, sometime soon.

[covert topaz]

There's a rework to the Advanced Dominion Wand and a new Memory Crystal in progress, as well as a new mount planned for the next update.

[candid fractal]

👍

[pine kelp]

getting a huge amount of log spam from ars additions. could you take a look and see if you can tell me why? thanks. https://mclo.gs/AaQ357V

[pine kelp]

btw i looked at another major pack "all the magic" and it has the same error in its log files also.

[covert topaz]

Because you're using a newer JEI version than I've last supported

[pine kelp]

ahh ok. what version works with it?

[covert topaz]

I'm away from my PC for the next 3 weeks, so not easy for me to check directly.

[pine kelp]

ok. thanks for the info. will see if i can figure it out. great mod btw. consider it a must have for ars.

[covert topaz]

Hopefully prepping to do a release soon:

[thick ocean]

oooo

[hybrid river]

Good

[cyan root]

What is that? 👀 Is it different from a parchment?

[jaunty valve]

Jarva revived the Scroll of Spell Storage but with multiple slots

[open dragon]

I'd imagine spell turret is the name of the spell?

[covert topaz]

Spell Turret is the type of memory held in the crystal, it's storing the spell and the timer from the timer turret

[covert topaz]

It's an item to copy settings to and from turrets, runes, starbuncles, item detectors, etc.

[open dragon]

Shouldn't it be called Timer Turret then?

There are also Aimable turrets that have extra info

Unless both rotation and timer are included in that type and "optional" if not found

[covert topaz]

Yep, it copies all data, and just excludes known problem data like UUIDs, etc.

Anything that extends basic turret is supported

[cyan root]

Except the Multiphase Turret from Ars Zero probably

[covert topaz]

Does that not extend basic turret?

[cyan root]

It does but has 3 spells

[covert topaz]

Should work, lemme try it

[covert topaz]

now commands to actually verify chunkloading

[covert topaz]

Ars Additions v21.3.0 is now out!

Added

• New Memory Crystal item with a 10-slot radial UI to save/load configuration data, plus slot locking to prevent accidental overwrites.
• Memory Crystal support for Spell Turrets, Starbuncles, Runes, Spell Sensors, and Item Detectors.
• Advanced Dominion Wand overhaul with radial controls for link order and link count (Single/Multi).
• Advanced Dominion Wand can now multi-link connected blocks and nearby entities of the same type, with selection highlighting and previews.
• Imbued Spell Parchments are now generated for every Caster Tome recipe and added to basic dungeon loot.
• Added /ars-chunks command to inspect chunk loading tickets (self, player, UUID, or all).
• Added Simplified Chinese localization (zh_cn) (ChuijkYahus).
• Expanded in-game documentation with new/updated entries.

Fixed

• Multi-target wanding now respects claims/protection checks and has stricter server-side validation.
• Migrated chunkloading to NeoForge ticket controllers with legacy forced-chunk migration and stale ticket cleanup.
• Fixed Handy Haversack auto-deposit tick timing.
• Fixed XP Jar rounding by persisting remainder per item.
• Fixed Warp Nexus placement/interaction edge cases.
• Fixed Exploration Warp Scroll interaction result handling after teleport.
• Fixed Enchanting Wixie apparatus animation states being swapped.
• Fixed charm cooldown handling to be per-entity rather than globally shared.
• Fixed recipe result handling for Locate Structure and Source Spawner recipes.
• Fixed multiple edge cases across teleporting, source jar syncing and wayfinder tooltips.
• Fixed documentation wiring issues in the new documentation system.

Links

Modrinth
CurseForge
GitHub

[covert topaz]

This has been surprisingly fun to implement so far, model and texture hopefully coming next

[covert topaz]

So I'm getting stuck with the controls, shift is dismount on vehicles, but it's also descend when in creative mode. I currently have Ctrl/Sprint set to descend, but it's catching me out everytime. Anyone have any thoughts on the preferred UX? I keep dismounting when I intend to descend

[open dragon]

Hexerei broom uses the RShift

it's still a shift but it's the different one

[covert topaz]

To dismount or descend?

[open dragon]

descend iirc but might be inverted

it's probably more comfortable if it's for dismount

[covert topaz]

Ah, I don't really want to move my hand to descend, that's the issue, I mean mouse steering still works

[open dragon]

but it only appears once

[covert topaz]

I may make it ctrl is dismount, but I worry people will get confused

[open dragon]

so you'll find people stuck on the broom cause they didn't see the prompt

[covert topaz]

Yeah, that's my concern

[thick ocean]

beautiful
seeing how you can make them stay in the air and act as solid blocks I think a recall mechanism would be useful

[jaunty valve]

Hm 🤔
Space to rise, shift to descent has been ground into my brain so I get it...
Context keybinds as in "press shift twice" instead of holding it is hard in MC, isn't it?
Otherwise you could do double shift to dismount

High likelihood of people "accidentally" discovering that if they missed the instructions

[thick ocean]

yknow

you could just make the controls rebindable

[covert topaz]

I mean I could probably do double-tap to dismount

[jaunty valve]

Heresy.

[covert topaz]

Rebindable, sure, but it should match expectations by default

You should only need to rebind to fit your unique style, not as the default

[thick ocean]

fair point

[jaunty valve]

It feels intuitive to me, but that's a fallacy waiting to happen

[thick ocean]

yea

[covert topaz]

Going with this approach:
Single-tap to dismount on the ground
Double-tap to dismount in air
Action bar prompt after the first press

[thick ocean]

ok

!

lets see how that works

[jaunty valve]

That sounds good!

[knotty sapphire]

Sounds good! Maybe a client side config to disable the reminder?

[open dragon]

f for removed butt handle

[covert topaz]

What kind of recall mechanism? I was considering making it a glyph to summon the mount and have it expire, but also could have a permanent item mode

[wind tinsel]

why not a "fly towards where you look" kinda thing

[idle bluff]

like an alternate control scheme?

[wind tinsel]

oh thats been talked about nevermind

[idle bluff]

control binding would be so much easier if modifier keys were normalized

like alt+shift to dismount

instead of double tapping shift

ctrl+scroll to increase/decrease max speed...

[open dragon]

kinda because you can't look around while the veichle works that way?

[covert topaz]

This already works, there's both key and mouse steering

Beta testers welcome, there's no way to craft the carpet currently so you'll need to spawn it in, but let me know how it feels to fly and use.

[wind tinsel]

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[manic edge]

oh im gettinng these in my world

[dark comet]

might be handy to have the carpet slowly descend if the player who was last on it is nearby but at lower y

i might have fallen off.

[idle bluff]

lowkey if the dismount was tied to double jump instead of double crouch

[covert topaz]

Could be interesting, have the carpet follow you if you move further away

[dark comet]

i like how the carpet leans left or right a bit when i press a/d

it's kinda funny how when i dismount at high speed i'm like almost off the carpet because it kept moving for a second, then it creeps back under my feet :D

[covert topaz]

Yeah i was happy implementing that, it also leans up and down when looking in that direction

[covert topaz]

Slight desync will look into it

[covert topaz]

Oh, and the lean stops when you get too close to the ground that it would clip into the ground

[dark comet]

oh neat

collision for standing on the carpet seems very generous

hm is it just like 3x3 blocks, any blocks the carpet intersects with?

i think it would be a bit more fun if there was higher inertia at higher speeds, like if braking took a bit longer :v

make the speed feel a bit more ~visceral~

[idle bluff]

Thread of High Insurance Premiums: magic carpet now handles like an ice boat

[dark comet]

I'm tempted to suggest stuff like getting knocked off if you collide with something at high speed but I know I'm going to beat myself up over it once that actually starts happening to me

[idle bluff]

lowkey though that would be very funny

[covert topaz]

Turn on hitboxes, it's just because it's angled

[dark comet]

ah

[covert topaz]

I haven't actually rotated the hitbox, I'm unsure on what's best

[dark comet]

hm why am i moving so slowly right after standing up? am i colliding with the carpet or something?

[covert topaz]

Possibly? I'll look into that

[hybrid river]

Looks cool cant wait to use it

[dark comet]

oh i fully clipped myself into a wall and died, rip

[covert topaz]

give it a try and your feedback can help shape its full release

[idle bluff]

Don't think I'm a fan of how the carpet angles forward when looking down

but also understand why it happens

being able to make it semi-transparent and maybe a little less visible when looking directly forwards would prevent it from having the same issue shields do of being obstructive

[covert topaz]

it's angled down, but also you're looking into your lap because your body doesn't render to you

[idle bluff]

the max speed is reasonable if a little on the slower side - i keep finding myself hitting the sprint key for a speed boost and being jarred by nothing happening

[dark comet]

feedback on collision detection

[covert topaz]

tf lmao

[covert topaz]

I think I may do a high max speed with a longer acceleration curve

[idle bluff]

do you envision this as something that will be available very early on in a playthrough and have its capabilities be upgraded modularly?

Like magic armor

[covert topaz]

Definitely not early

It's elytra+

[idle bluff]

right now this competes with like... for distance travel

[covert topaz]

I'd consider a summon magic carpet glyph that's t2 but for shorter distances

summon lesser magic carpet

[idle bluff]

as it stands it just strictly loses i think. it's too unwieldy, and the functionality of being able to stand on it after dismount is good but also replicated by .

I honestly think this concept would be better served as magical equipment

[covert topaz]

Leap and Elytra is good for distance, but it's not very handy for precise movement, which is what this fulfils a mixture of.

[dark comet]

I think it would be fun if a slightly less lategame version wasn't steerable, it just goes in a straight line, maybe with a little drift even

[covert topaz]

not sure if a straighline one would be much useful

[dark comet]

I'm picturing, like, "I'd like to be on top of that hill/mountain/tower over there" without it being a full time movement option

[idle bluff]

like dungeon loot evilcraft brooms

[covert topaz]

but that would mostly be covered by

[dark comet]

yeah

[idle bluff]

hmmmmm

[dark comet]

maybe leap is too early game :v

[idle bluff]

leap isn't too early game, bounce is LOL

complete fall damage immunity

so for precision movement your envisioned usecases are like, building and structure exploration

and maybe mining, yeah?

[dark comet]

ngl bounce is usually relatively late for me because i never find slime ;_;

[idle bluff]

i think right now the tuning is a little conflicted

[sullen orchid]

lol yeah, finding the slime is what takes me the longest

[knotty sapphire]

It feels more like Happy Ghast +, so Post nether and a bit hard to get, but not otherwise hard locked.

[idle bluff]

it wants to be both a viable if suboptimal travel option but it also wants to be capable of precision movement

[sullen orchid]

I'd argue the flying carpet could be put earlier due to the happy ghast existing

if it offers similar utility

[covert topaz]

Happy Ghast doesn't exist alongside Ars, yet

[idle bluff]

forward acceleration having drift and being stronger than any other vector makes precise movement difficult

[knotty sapphire]

Vanilla Backport is a very solid mod, and “here’s where vanilla chose to stick this feature” isn’t a terrible balance metric even for features that don’t exist yet.

[dark comet]

"this thing is like happy ghast but faster" isn't great positioning, idk

[covert topaz]

Have you played with it? There's not a whole lot of drift and you can steer with your strafe keys

[idle bluff]

playin with it right now

i'll take some more time with it before i say anything like super conclusive

and also take my words with a pile of salt because my standards are weird

[covert topaz]

It seems precise enough for building/utility help

[dark comet]

I think the movement is perfectly fine for like building and stuff, unless you're in a very cramped space

[sullen orchid]

so filling a similar niche to the Hexerei brooms

can you roll it up and put it in your inventory?

[covert topaz]

The positioning is:

• Building aid
• Alternative to creative flight
• Good travel option
• Less obtuse than a happy ghast
• Potentially Upgradeable

[idle bluff]

the elephant in the room for me is the ritual of flight, I think

[covert topaz]

Yes, it's like a boat, you'll break it and pick it up

[covert topaz]

This would be an expansion on the flight ritual

Most likely used in the crafting recipe

[knotty sapphire]

Hmm… I could see this wanting to be post Dragon, but not wildly post - maybe just wanting chorus

[sullen orchid]

I don't think they invalidate each other anyways

[dark comet]

oof, movement inside powdered snow blocks feels bad but i think that's just a property of being inside powdered snow

[open dragon]

If you limit the time for lower tiers it shouldn't be much more powerful than having belt of levitation

[sullen orchid]

right, the belt exists too

[dark comet]

lots of snow particles

[idle bluff]

not entirely - since flight ritual is in a limited area inherently. But if you're doing extended building in an area, the experience of using a carpet needs to outweigh the benefit minus the cost of setting up a ritual

[sullen orchid]

a ritual can offer benefit to everyone within the radius

[idle bluff]

that too

[open dragon]

Summoning it with a glyph is probably a worse option than having a lower tier item

[idle bluff]

i dont like summonable mounts

[covert topaz]

If it's a glyph it would the low tier one anyway

[idle bluff]

like ephemeral summonable mounts

[dark comet]

huge benefit of not taking up an inventory slot/a "remember to bring this along" memory slot

[open dragon]

If ever the summon rework is successful it would look weird to have it behave differently

[sullen orchid]

I think it would be quite strange for this to be summoned

[idle bluff]

i guess but I just think theyre boring conceptually. They compete with non-mounted movement options

[sullen orchid]

this is a woven piecec of fabric

[open dragon]

Since one of the points Goo mentioned is giving them infinite duration

[idle bluff]

likewise

[sullen orchid]

a carpet is inherently a crafted thing

unless you propose there are free-roaming carpets that you can summon to do your bidding

[idle bluff]

might have been in DMs or here but jarva you mentioned toying with the idea of using the thread system to make it upgradeable

[dark comet]

can two people ride the carpet like boats?

[covert topaz]

Yes*

I have not tested this

[idle bluff]

my thoughts boil down to theres a lot of cool fun stuff you could do with this concept but nailing down its place in the equipment ecosystem and making sure it has one gotta come first

[dark comet]

I guess I'd see it less like a summoned creature and more like a mageblock that happens to be carpet shaped and moves

[idle bluff]

also i gotta say it the double shift dismount makes my skin itch

[covert topaz]

Not many good options there though 🙁

[idle bluff]

left alt?

or maybe left alt can become the descent key

[dark comet]

I thought double sneak would get in the way more than it did so far, and not falling to my death but just standing on the carpet helps too, but yeah I wish there were more keys

ctrl i guess

[jaunty valve]

Fun idea. Jarva could even pitch it to his bosses as marketing 😁

[idle bluff]

i think its because my keys have a lot of travel distance so having to double hit shift with my pinky every time I want to dismount is grating

im not on a little butterfly switch keyboard these are cherry browns babey

[frank elk]

I would vote for the carpet to be:

A) A familiar
B) An item

Summoning it via glyphs feels odd to me.

The idea of wild carpets roaming is really funny to me though, I must admit.

[jaunty valve]

Does not compute in rapid reset hall effect

[dark comet]

ah, i have sneak on my mouse thumb button always, b/c i noticed i'd always let go of shift at the worst moments by accident

[idle bluff]

a hall effect keyboard?

[jaunty valve]

Yep

[idle bluff]

thats interesting. didnt consider that could be a thing

[jaunty valve]

Does explain why I enjoy double shift though honestly

[idle bluff]

yeah double press on a thumb-bound button or on a less clacky keyboard is significantly less painful

but when I type it sounds like i'm beating a robot to death

[jaunty valve]

Typing being my full time job, my wife would kill me.
https://wooting.io/wooting-two-he
Not a beauty (it may achieve that with the full metal body) but it's got some very fun functionality that I am hopelessly underutilizing

[covert topaz]

autonomous carpets

[covert topaz]

Would a longer delay in the double-tap help? Or is it just the tapping?

[idle bluff]

it's the tapping, really. Delay would help slightly but then I would worry about descending too much while trying to dismount

[dark comet]

I'd worry about dismounting while trying to descend in small increments

[covert topaz]

The whole reason the double-tap dismount exists is because I was so used to descending with shift in creative flight. I kept dismounting mid-flight when trying to descend.

[idle bluff]

yeah thats muscle memory you gotta build around. I acknowledge the problem and i don't fully disagree with the solution

[dark comet]

i don't think there's a flying contraption in this game that i haven't accidentally dismounted to my death from

so anything's fair really

[sullen orchid]

the hexerei brooms had a rebindable dismount for the broom, since it also had shift to descend... but the default keybinds have them both as shift

I think I changed descend or dismount to caps lock at some point...

[thick ocean]

something like that would work
tho having something like a whisle to make it pathfind to you (or teleport if its out of range) would also be cool

[idle bluff]

one day someone will take on the dishonorable task of getting multi-key bindings to work consistently

not dishonorable. unceremonious

and tedious

[sullen orchid]

I am kinda partial to the kind of thing they did for the happy ghast, where they take some of your look vector for going up or down

[jaunty valve]

If I recall the Aladdin animated series correctly, whistling for your carpet is a great way to get dumped in a lake

[jaunty valve]

I think it also does that from what I understood?

[covert topaz]

Yeah it does

[sullen orchid]

oh, or like the epic mounts or whatever that mod was. The flying mounts have a sort of threshold for when you look too far up or down to start ascending or descending

[covert topaz]

You can press forward and just look where you want to go

like ascending/descending without moving?

[sullen orchid]

I found I really liked that, as it gave me some freedom to look around without altering my path too much, but when I wanted to go up or down it was easy

so like, it goes on your look vector for up and down, but only if it exceeds a certain threshold

and otherwise keeps your Y value constant

[covert topaz]

Xacris, have you tried the beta jar?

[sullen orchid]

not yet, I'll try to make time to check it out

[glossy ravine]

Ohhh I love this. Like a ghast, but one that was actually trained lol

[covert topaz]

Prototyping

[thick ocean]

yoooo

[strong frigate]

May I suggest Carpet folding it's front when mounted and looking down? Would require model tweaks for it to work, but could look more natural than angled carpet.

[idle bluff]

i was gonna suggest semi-transparency but this is a cool idea

[strong frigate]

Also... It would be funny to put that carpet on Lamas 😛

[covert topaz]

I'm not sure I understand

[strong frigate]

You could roll it a little at the front for it to not block players view

Carpets aren't just a stiff slabs irl - they are fabric that can be rolled

[covert topaz]

dropping this here so it's visible for future reference

The model and texture are still just placeholders

[cyan root]

I love this magic carpet so much

[covert topaz]

The biggest damper on my productivity is getting distracted flying around on the carpet

[thick ocean]

lol

[covert topaz]

beeg carpet

Decided the large version will hold 1 driver and 4 passengers

[idle bluff]

can the passengers be any entity

[dark comet]

let me fly my happy ghast around on the carpet. ghasts should get to take breaks too.

[covert topaz]

Unsure

[strong frigate]

This flying carpet reminds me a lot of the one from "Aladdin".
Maybe you could tie those magic carpets somehow to Desserts... potentially to Archeology?
Say... you find pieces of Ancient Fabric that could be used for few things - including flying carpets?

also you could automate production of them with our magic archeologist crabs. 😄

[covert topaz]

I do like the idea of tying it to archeology, we don't have enough uses for that currently

[idle bluff]

i think thats more because archaeology in vanilla is half baked and not very interesting to begin with

[strong frigate]

Honestly... more archeological sites with more variation on what you brush and where you brush and what challenges you are facing... could make it a bit more exciting.

What if there was Suspicious Soul Sand (original, I know) that instead of falling and crumbling would occasionally spawn a (Withered?) Skeleton that holds on to something and you had to fight it?

Or a group of suspicious blocks that didn't had gravity like Sand or Gravel but had another challenge to make extracting goods from them possible?

The problem is there is only soo many ways to make brushing any more interesting without having to resort to a brand new minigame in a game

it would help to have more uses for Brushes though... Archeology and Armadilo Scutes are fine, but having more would be an improvement.

[idle bluff]

this is honestly one of the rare occasions where I think a feature would just be better off removed

minecraft is timeless. the world is supposed to be a blank slate. why are there suddenly ancient ruins?

And why are there so few of them?

such a concept should have been much more substantial

but mojang is horrified of adding anything more significant than a new biome at once. there are no "nether update" scale changes in minecrafts future

[strong frigate]

I suppose having more structures have blocks that provide something when brushed could make brush as a whole a lot more worthwhile.

instead it was only a handful of them... and it was any with sand or gravel in them already - I suppose suddenly having gravel appear in spawner rooms might be too odd if we look at pregenerated structures, but honestly I wouldn't mind some more radical changes to some of the structures here and there.

By radical... I refer to slight palette tweaks here and there that utilizes new blocks added over the years.
Only recently did they introduced copper blocks into a structure - before that we could make them and use them, but it seemed like the rest of the minecraft world didn't bother with including them in any way.

If we can find mineshafts with wooden supports underground, would it be too big of an ask for jungle pyramids to include say... a bit of bamboo for variety?

Cherry was recently added few drops ago... people have been suggesting villages out of cherry - which I guess could be a fun excuse for new villager clothing to be added in too... but some kind of structure showcasing new wood in action would be dope.

Say... a sanctuary?

Pale Garden was a drop all on it's own... a structure appearing in there would be great for putting Resin blocks in spotlight! Maybe even incorporate a bit more of archeology in there as well?
What if we had aged resin with a different color and you could create an ancient pale oak heart to summon a different variant of the new mob?

[leaden flint]

jar it and farm it with drygmies

[bronze merlin]

how do i obtain a memory crystal?

[covert topaz]

Ah shit, I forgot the crafting recipe didn't I

[bronze merlin]

yippee

[thick ocean]

Did you make that spesifically for this purpose?

[covert topaz]

Yes

[ember elm]

has anyone here experienced a little annoying bug that causes the warp nexus to cull its surrounding blocks when placed?

[covert topaz]

Which version?

[ember elm]

Most recent one

[ember elm]

It might be a mod conflict now that i think about it...

[covert topaz]

Do you have distant horizons?

[covert topaz]

Most recent 1.21?

[ember elm]

Yes and yes

[covert topaz]

There's a bug report with distant horizons currently, I have a fix planned for next update

[ember elm]

oh ok lol that's not two mods i thought would conflict at all

[idle bluff]

mods tha use rendering tricks will be foisted by mods that fuck with rendering, sadly

[knotty sapphire]

Also MoreCulling needs a fair bit of config, if you have it installed.

[nimble mortar]

Is there a way to disable arcane permanence rituals after they've started? Like, an out-of-game option such as a config option that disables the ritual, including already-running rituals? The config option in ars_additions-common.toml says the option just enables/disables the recipe, not the already-running rituals

[ember elm]

yeah i thought that might be the culprit

[weak jasper]

Noticed that all the recipes in Additions don't show up in the book

They do show up in JEI tho, otherwise that would be a showstopper bug for me

[covert topaz]

Is this latest version?

[covert topaz]

I didn't think about that. Your best bet is probably to set it to require source every tick, so it's not possible to sustain

[nimble mortar]

Hmmm... along that line of thinking, maybe I could set the source required to just any number > 10k in addition to requiring every tick?

Oh, I guess either way it'd be alive one tick when rebooting

[covert topaz]

Unsure if I put a cap on it

[covert topaz]

Are you on 1.21?

[nimble mortar]

The comments say # Range: 1 ~ 10000, so I guess 10k+1 probably isn't an option

yes, 1.21

[covert topaz]

The latest version of Ars Additions provides a command to hunt down all loaded chunks

[nimble mortar]

Oh that's nice!

[covert topaz]

/ars-chunks

[flat hull]

i still think the commands need a cleanup

[covert topaz]

Definitely

[flat hull]

should all just be under one /ars or /ars-nouveau

the problem there is that i dont know how to let addons add their commands inside

mixins would work, and also be ugly

[covert topaz]

Just have the main mod dispatch an event with the CommandDispatcher

Or whatever the command type is

[weak jasper]

1.20.1-1.6.7, the latest available for 1.20.1

[covert topaz]

1.20.1 is no longer supported, so won't be changed

[weak jasper]

😭

Most modpacks are still on 1.20.1 tho

[flat hull]

just use EMI

or JEI

or REI (probably wont work actually)

[weak jasper]

I have JEI and I'm using that yeah

[flat hull]

also id say most people have moved on to 1.21 at this point

[weak jasper]

REI is usually my preffered one but it caused a crash with Create's shopkeeper UI so I've dropped it

[nimble mortar]

Someone convinced me to switch to EMI, so my server switched over, and I have regrets 🙁

[flat hull]

i love EMI

[nimble mortar]

it takes SO long to load

And doesn't work with sohisticated storage

[flat hull]

are you using it with TMRV

[nimble mortar]

I do have TMRV yeah

Is that the cause?

[flat hull]

no that should help if anything

[nimble mortar]

JEI was always instant

or at least, close enough to instant that I didn't notice it loading

[flat hull]

its the opposite for me

[nimble mortar]

Anyway I'm sorry, I'm hijacking someone else's help

[flat hull]

JEI loads in sync

EMI should be async

JEI makes world joins very slow

EMI lets you join the world then wait

[weak jasper]

If you have a lot of blocks (Chipped, Bountiful etc) you have to disable the vanilla recipe book with something like NERB, had a lot of performance issues related to items because of it in the previous iteration of my own pack

[nimble mortar]

Alls I know is I open a fresh world, hit "e", and by the tme I hit "Ctrl+F" JEI is ready. With EMI, I gotta wait about a minute before I can search EMI

[flat hull]

yeah thats because EMI lets you join first

JEI would do the loading on launch and during world join

[nimble mortar]

Ah, I see

[weak jasper]

"it's fine, they don't care"

lmao

[nimble mortar]

Thanks or the tip, I'll give this a try! I don't think we have all that many blocks but I'll try it anyway

lol 🙈 my apologies

[weak jasper]

I mean, my "issue" is a tiny issue and they don't care so eh

[weak jasper]

also probably this too

With EMI, subsequent openings should be fast, if they're not then yeah try NERB

[covert topaz]

It's not that we don't care, it's a lot of work to maintain even one version of a mod. Maintaining multiple just isn't sustainable for me, I have a full time job and two kids, any time I have available is going on new features and not trying to maintain features on a version that gets less and less players each day.

[nimble mortar]

In my experience, that's usually the norm (only maintaining the latest version of the mod). Maybe critical bug fixes for old versions if critical bugs are found, but often not even that.

[weak jasper]

Sorry if that seemed offensive, didn't meant to.

but yeah I get it, it's a pretty minor thing anyways since JEI can cover it

[dark comet]

can i make a feature request for the magic carpet

cruise control

[north valve]

I have some questions regarding the 1.20.1 version of Ars Nouveau :

• Does Spellweave exist for 1.20.1?

• If it does, can it be used on "magical" armors (a.k.a Armors from Ars and its addons)?

[jaunty valve]

Not without Ars Additions, in any version and I'm unsure if Jarva implemented it in 1.20 already.

No.

[unique bluff]

Fly-by kidnappings would be fun

[covert topaz]

How would you want it to work? Just lock current speed?

[dark comet]

mhm, or even just keep moving in the current direction at some speed

[north valve]

If I remember correctly, I have seen it in both my 1.20.1 Ars modpack and the issue tracker on Ars Additions GitHub (regarding 1.20.1 bugs)

[slow inlet]

Are the scrolls added by this mod single use?

[covert topaz]

Which scrolls?

[slow inlet]

the ones that looks similar to spell Parchments?

[covert topaz]

There's a lot of them added by this mod

Imbued Spell Parchments? Yes they're single use

[slow inlet]

Ah

[covert topaz]

They're single use caster tomes

They cost 0 mana

You can technically make more of them if you're smart about it

[slow inlet]

How so?

and are they consumed when in the spell binder

[covert topaz]

I don't think so, but they still cost mana then

[slow inlet]

right

[covert topaz]

And it depends on if the spell binder checks whether you should be able to cast that spell

For example whether you know the glyphs it has

Which it probably should

[open dragon]

No, it shouldn't

It's also made for when you want to give a set of spells to people or try to roleplay with just a set of premade spells

[covert topaz]

Fair enough

[calm shuttle]

ayo guys does reactive stack?

or should I only put it on one piece of armor

[slow inlet]

it should? iirc it's a base mod thing though not Additions

[calm shuttle]

Oh sorry I was getting it confused with spellweave

mb gang

[slow inlet]

but yes Reactive should Proc per piece of Armor but if they all do then you might not have enough Mana to cast them all

[calm shuttle]

do you happen to know the chance of proc that reactive 4 gives?

[slow inlet]

I think that just a 100% chance

[calm shuttle]

baller ty vm

aight its not, I just stood in the middle of a pack of zombies and it didn't go off once

[thick ocean]

interesting

and there was a spell inscribed on the parchment used in the recipe
you had enough mana
and you upgraded it all the way (4 uses a wilden tribute)?

[covert topaz]

Nah, they tried to apply it via an anvil

[thick ocean]

ah

[hybrid river]

how'show's the carpet coming along

[covert topaz]

I haven't worked on it since I got back from the US

Had no time unfortunately

[hybrid river]

Good to know

[hybrid river]

Any other ideas your working on

[slow inlet]

is there any way to fix a Warp Nexus if you break it and place it back in the same place?

[covert topaz]

Not without Creative/Commands

[slow inlet]

Ah, damn

how would you fix it with Creative/Commands then?

[supple heron]

Hi, is there a way to make custom locate structure rituals with a datapack or such?

[covert topaz]

Yes, they're just recipes

https://github.com/Jarva/Ars-Additions/tree/1.21.0/src/generated/resources/data/ars_additions/recipe/locate_structure

[supple heron]

Oh nice

thanks

[grand sage]

hallo mister jarva, how would you consider making it so you can somewhat upgrade wixies, either by stacking them like buncles or otherwise?

[grand sage]

i think i remember you saying something about that, really im mostly asking cause of certain things id like to have automated without using icky tech mods

[grand sage]

he hates me smh

[thick ocean]

Jarva will do what jarva wants

[grand sage]

i knowwwww lol

[jaunty valve]

Family and life always comes first. Patience 🙂

[thick ocean]

Indeed

[grand sage]

yeah i did remember you wanted it as an option, just didnt know if you were just saying it in passing or not lol

[covert topaz]

Eventually™

[grand sage]

yeah no rush at all lol, i would just really find it cool to have that big production without 5 billion wixie stations lol

[thick ocean]

would you rather
have wixie speed up or
enapp speedup

[grand sage]

enapp?

[thick ocean]

enchanting apparatus

[elder hare]

Hi guys, so i turned off caster tomes for ars nouveau but i still get these things from ars additions and i can't turn them off in config

can someone help me with this pls?

[grand sage]

Can you turn those into regular spell scrolls?

[slow inlet]

I think those aren't considered Caster tomes

[covert topaz]

How did you turn off the tomes? To remove the imbued parchments you should remove the caster tome recipes

[elder hare]

i think they are regular spell scrolls, or idk

[elder hare]

yeah but some of them can be used and i wanted to turn them off so it would be balanced

[elder hare]

trough config just disabled them

[covert topaz]

ServerEvents.recipes((event) => {
  event.remove({
    mod: "ars_nouveau",
    type: "ars_nouveau:caster_tome",
  });
});

KubeJS script to disable the tomes

I don't support the config

[elder hare]

thank you, where should i write that?

[covert topaz]

If you have KubeJS, in the server_scripts folder

[elder hare]

alr, thanks <3

[queen thicket]

um

Hii

I'm new in all this haha

buut I have a question

(if you don't mind

(maybe you know the answer or not, idk

why isn't tha ritual of arcane permanence working?

[slow inlet]

did you enable it in the configs?

[queen thicket]

oh

how do i do it?

jskwjdkw

its like a special config or its just mc config

?

[slow inlet]

you find it in one of your config folders it should be like "Ars-Additions-Server.toml" or something

[queen thicket]

hm

and then I write like "true" where I think the recipe is?

[slow inlet]

Yeah, and then make sure it says "enabled" for it to actually work?

[queen thicket]

or something, I dont really know how to code T-T

[slow inlet]

it doesn't require that much knowledge to code 🙂

[queen thicket]

and if I wanted to use it on a server (it doesn't let me upload files) how would I do that?

do i have to do it by writing in the server's console?

[slow inlet]

the Server admin would have to make sure it's enabled, I think?

[queen thicket]

aghh T-T T-T

im the admin

jdjwdjsjw

mm

well, so im gonna go search inside the server to see if im able to do it

thank you very much T-T

[slow inlet]

you're welcome

I'm trying to look into it myself to help further

Ah yeah in your .minecraft server there should be a folder labled "Config" and in that you find the "Ars_Addition-Sever.toml" file, open that and it will give you options for the Ritual of Permanance

you do have to be online for it to work

[queen thicket]

yess

i was looking at the same folder haha

but i cant find the config to enable its recipe T-T

ah

i wasnt looking at the .toml file jwjsjws

thanks!!

🫶 🫶

[slow inlet]

Welcome

[queen thicket]

hii

(sorry to bother you T-T

im trying to make a source spawner work

but i cant figure out how to make it start functioning with a containtment jar with a wither skeleton inside as the intented spawner type

(im not a native speaker so dont hesitate to ask me if some parts of the question arent clear enough o smth

nevermind it worked hsjwhdjwhsjw

[glossy ravine]

Needed source?

[queen thicket]

Yeah kwjsjw

I thought I needed to get the skeleton to enter the source spawner (like in a normal spawner, i guess), but turns out the problem was that a wither skeleton farm consumes a lot more source than what I expected jwksjw

[mystic crown]

Might be able to abuse a really old idea. Have it spawn regular skeletons, but place it in the nether

[queen thicket]

but wouldnt it spawn regular skeletons? I mean, now theyre able to spawn in soul sand valleys, so I dont think the spawner would spawn wither skeletons (as I intend it to do)

(Im answering to what I guess you mean jdwjs

[mystic crown]

It's been years since I've messed around with it. But there at least used to be a thing where any skeleton spawned in the nether had a 75% chance of being a wither skeleton instead. Used to bring vanilla skeleton spawners to the nether to make a quick wither skeleton farm.

Probably doesn't work anymore, at least definitely not in a soul sand valley, but maybe try in a nether wastes

Other than that, there's a lot of ways to make vanilla-based wither skeleton farms incredibly effective with ars nouveau warp portals

Unrelated, interesting. From 1.10, a wither skeleton with a tipped arrow will use those arrows if they have a bow.

And until 1.21.4, wither skeletons wanted to pick up bows...

Could be an interesting way to have an infinite tipped arrow

[queen thicket]

oooh

very interesting indeed ☕ ☕

[errant vortex]

how can i disable certain glyphs from being discovered in the ancient codex entry?

if its even possible

[covert topaz]

The codex entries will use all enabled glyphs. If a glyph is enabled in the server, it's possible to obtain in the codex

[errant vortex]

how do i disable a glyph?

[jaunty valve]

Each glyph has it's own config.toml in the /config/ars_nouveau folder

[floral quiver]

Is there a way to assign a target to a Reliquary if said target can't be hit with Projectiles or Touch?

[nimble mortar]

Just a guess but maybe something like might work

I've never used the reliquary though, so take my thoughts with a grain of salt

[floral quiver]

Sadly, Mark (the glyph that binds the target to Reliquary) cannot be augmented with Sensitive,

[knotty sapphire]

Well it's augmenting the burst with sensitive, which should work?

Unless mark does something deeply strange?

[spice bramble]

What Azalea suggested should work
(Good example would be :mark: should work)

[floral quiver]

Nope, Still nothing. The projectile just passes through the intended target and the reliquary saves the coords of the block it hit instead.

BUT, I did just get it to work! So I'm using a mod called Doggy Talents Next. The dogs in question are under a permanent "No Friendly Fire" rule. This means that any possible damage coming from the player does nothing to the dog. HOWEVER, I just noticed an option in the dog's menu to turn Friendly Fire on and off. I turned it off and viola, I've finally marked my dog and can finally make a healing spell for it.

[spice bramble]

OH WAIT
:mark: and hit the floor under it

Nice you could figure it out though

[floral quiver]

I did try that spell combo but it only marked the floor underneath the dog. In the end, it was turning Friendly Fire on and using :mark:. Now the sad part is I thought the unstable reliquary was unbreakable. It is not. It last like 4-5 spells and broke.

[spice bramble]

Yeah you'd need an eternal stella from Forbidden and Arcanus for that and have the spell end with mark (Can use turret)

[floral quiver]

Yeah but I decided to not have Forbidden and Arcanus. Felt like having it was too much. Anyway, thanks for the help. 🙂

[grand sage]

i never thought of that

lovely

although it still means i cant have a perma mark, sadly

[floral quiver]

There is a vanilla Minecraft command that can make something unbreakable but that's up to you if you want use commands in a survival playthrough.

Hey, what does Spellweave do? I'm just now noticing it in JEI.

[floral quiver]

Ah I did not see that it was recently added and explained on the General-and-help thread. My bad.

[covert topaz]

It should have an enchantment description, might be something I haven't released yet 🤔

[bitter jay]

are there any applications for the reliquary on spell turrets?

[floral quiver]

Can confirm, no description in the book. Just the recipe.

The mod Enchantment Descriptions doesn't see it either.

[leaden flint]

...i may be stupid, but also this is my first time messing about with datapacks.

i notice the "id" and "tag" sections are both listed as "ars_additions:", even though most of the structures found by the ritual are vanilla. why?
...how would this effect things if i was trying to locate a structure added by a different mod entirely?

...do the .jsons go in a /recipe/ directory as normal, or do they need a /locate_structure/ directory in the /recipe/ directory to go in?

[flat hull]

the id is just the id of the recipe, which is created by ars additions and thus uses the namespace of ars additions.

the tags used are defined by ars additions here https://github.com/Jarva/Ars-Additions/tree/1.21.0/src/generated/resources/data/ars_additions/tags/worldgen/structure

you can make your own tags or use vanilla ones

[flat hull]

just follow the directory structure

[leaden flint]

...so if i want to add another mod's structure, i need to define a tag (or find one, if that other mod has a tag for that structure)... and make an id for the recipe?

[leaden flint]

...okay it almost worked. there's a recipe, and the ritual runs, but it doesn't find the structure

so i think i made the tag wrong or somethign

ope. i forgot to make the worldgen directory for the structure directory

it works now. thanksmuch for the help qther

[grave kindle]

Can Wixie Apparatus not do armor upgrades (e.g. tier 1 to tier 2)?

[jaunty valve]

Seems like there's a fun issue with

[urban gyro]

the error message wasn't from retaliate i figured that's my bad, my only problem remaining is that retaliate doesn't trigger on the first hit taken on my reactive armor it only works from second hit onwards

[open dragon]

ok i was not sure about it so i had to double check, i don't think this is fixable

to put it in simple terms, reactive activates at the end of the damage chain but the "last mob that hurt the player" variable is updated after it

and there is no way for the retaliate code to know who triggered reactive because the value is not set yet

if retaliate could be somehow delayed, with an augment maybe, that would probably be possible i guess? @covert topaz

[urban gyro]

since it's a form i couldn't really figure anything out to delay it

relics mod does have a retaliate ish relic

it seems to work fine as long as the 5 second window is up even if the target changes

but it doesn't reset the 5 second window

then it misses another trigger after the 5 seconds and goes again from the second hit

might have to test that again mobs were dying

well i don't wanna clutter the chat with my could be misinformation so i'll leave it up people who know better

[candid fractal]

I noticed that this mod hasn't been updated for a while. Do you have any update plans?

[jaunty valve]

I would consider Additions to be actively maintained and afaik Jarva has some update plans, just also 2 very young children

[runic iris]

Also, Additions has its own whole discord server.

[covert topaz]

The Magic carpet feature is still pending, when I get time to finish that off then we'll have a new release

But also, the latest release was February 2026

[calm shuttle]

ayo how do I craft the tablet of arcane permanence

[frank elk]

Need to enable first via the configs.

[obtuse dune]

it looks like there's a lang file error.

[meager lily]

Another year appreciating unstable reliquary existence

[calm shuttle]

is there a way to make a spell cast on a reliquary target without having the reliquary in my offhand?

[covert topaz]

Only by using turrets

[calm shuttle]

I was intending to use turrets but it didn't seem to be working unless I was holding it

what did I fumble

did I fuck up the spell?

[covert topaz]

Turrets require the reliquary in an inventory next to them

[calm shuttle]

so if I plopped it in a chest we'd be good?

[spice bramble]

correct

something i did was use forbidden and arcanus to make a reliquary that just spammed phantom grasp on a maledictus using :recall: :mark:

[calm shuttle]

tyty

im trying to make a 500 size warden stay big permanently lmao

[calm shuttle]

so uhhh I tried this and its not working

what did I fuck up

[spice bramble]

So you marked the entity right?

[calm shuttle]

yes

[spice bramble]

Also why adjustable?

I suggest using enchanted

[calm shuttle]

ok ill switch that and see if that works

[spice bramble]

And use mark at the end

If the mob/entity leaves then it clears

(If it was in the middle of a cast)

[calm shuttle]

lets uh

put it like this

he aint going anywhere

[calm shuttle]

uhhh if the unstable reliquary breaks instantly is it too far away

[thick ocean]

Nope
Its a one time use

[calm shuttle]

gotcha

is there a way to use commands or something to make one that lasts forever

[meager lily]

you can edit how much durability it cost in the config files

[calm shuttle]

so I could make it 0

ty 🙏

[silk sage]

Is there a schematic of the Arcane library? I would like to repair this one and make it my base

[thick ocean]

Ah yes
It's on blockprints

In fact the one on blockprints is the og one

[silk sage]

Nice

[silk sage]

Is that a mod or website

[thick ocean]

Both
Look up blockprints.io

[silk sage]

Thanks, I appreciate it. I love this Library, and I suck at major aesthetic building

[thick ocean]

I suck at structure but I'm really good at murals

I understand lol

[patent garden]

hello, can anyone explain what spellweave enchant from do?

[thick ocean]

basically it lets you add one thread slot to a peice of armor with none

[patent garden]

thx

[indigo lava]

hello, is there a way to craft a tablet of arcane permanence(1.20.1, mod 1.6.7)

[glossy ravine]

You can enable it in the configs

[onyx escarp]

Hello, is there a way to mark a player indefinitely? Im playing on a local server with just one other player and want to be able to remotely help them with spells. I didnt find anything in the config so far but found out that the mark effect for players wasn't always a thing.

Im playing on the latest version in neo forge

[jaunty valve]

Not by default, but there's other mods that add enchants that disable durability

[onyx escarp]

Thanks for the reply :) The durability is not my problem, sorry for the confusion. I mean is there a way that the reliquary stays bound to a player like it does with an entity? I only found the config option to make the mark effect last longer but not make it permanent or disable the need of it

[spice bramble]

Putting it in a chest works then having a spellturret cast :recall: <insert spell> :mark:|
Breaks if it casts while offline

[onyx escarp]

Oh, interesting workaroud, thanks :) i will try to experiment with that so i can have the turret cast it on demand 🤔

[meager lily]

You can make it permanent by reducing the cost when used on a player to 0 in config, in config there is also duration on how long it stay bound to a player if you set that to 0 then it will stay on the player forever

[onyx escarp]

Thanks, i will try that next time i get to play :)

[onyx escarp]

i can only find the option to set the marked effect duration, and setting that to 0 instantly loses the mark

[candid fractal]

May I ask if I can find an apprentice spell book in Arcanet library?

[runic iris]

The Arcane Library? No, it does not have a spell book in the default loot tables or any of the structures.