Ars Additions

[ancient night]

ok ty!

got my chests linked it was SO USEFUL

tysm

[covert topaz]

nice, I'm glad

[runic iris]

Oh, the more I think about that silly blink trap with a hidden turret casting the worse it gets.

Now I envision a sculkified Ars Additions set piece with just a chest up on some throne of archwood.

Redstone to sense if the single scroll in the chest is ever removed.

So the clever could swap in an item and pull out the scroll.

The unwary would grab the Explorers Scroll and promptly appear in the mids of an Ancient City.

[covert topaz]

I want to make a Spell-Trapped Chest

because of you Wave

[runic iris]

And that's even worse. Now I'm gonna have nightmares about mimcs and Ars chests.

Although that is still a cool idea.

A chest that casts a speed spell on a starbuncle everytime it opens it.

Or even just teleports the 'buncle to the target chest.

[mystic crown]

Gotta work with lootr so it looks the same

[runic iris]

That's why the turret-blink-rune is so evil. Everybody on a lootr server gets hit.

[manic edge]

i just saw the most devious thing in my life

rn

a trapped spell chest is FOUL

[covert topaz]

It's happening

[runic iris]

Tree Tops redone. Now I just need to import this onto the Ars server.

and on blockprints: https://blockprints.io/schematic/3c580057-6eca-4cda-8c9c-68dc9afa47ee

[gleaming parrot]

Those look really good!

[covert topaz]

The Nexus Tower was designed by Way of Time / Source Mage

I'll get the description on blockprints updated

[runic iris]

I did not know. I recalled the last discussion being about Eru. Feel free to correct the description if you can.

More correctly, I did not recall correctly.

[covert topaz]

Eru did the warp portals and arcane library conversion

[runic iris]

I wonder if blockprints will let me update the description if I post a new version?

[runic iris]

There, fixed up: https://blockprints.io/schematic/4edbd55a-b2d4-4083-a844-2e084df7eb30

[runic iris]

IDK why I keep comming back to this The Witchcraft world to work on this bloody minecolony. But I found a barbaian camp from minecolony that integrated directly into an Explorer portal. So it looks perfectly like they build the thing around it.

It mainly seems that minecolonies structures seem to be ignoring other mods' structure placement.

[kindred crane]

Found a bug wiht spellweave.
I can still add threads to armors that I removed spellweave from.

[covert topaz]

Aha, thank you for the report

[north valve]

Spellweave?

[kindred crane]

Enchantment that lets non Ars armor equip a single thread

[viral tendon]

per level*

[kindred crane]

Also, I am not sure if this is a bug for me having Apotheosis, but Spellweave 2 is giving me a lv3 slot.

[viral tendon]

I also have apotheosis, might try that later if I don't forget

I can tell you what happens if you would like to know :)

[covert topaz]

Not a single thread per level, but a single thread of the provided level

[viral tendon]

mb

[mystic crown]

I think there's a thing in apotheosis to make enchantments act as one higher than the level on the item. A gem or something?

[viral tendon]

Oh yeah there is a gem that adds 1 level to all enchantments

Nice thinking

[kindred crane]

I am not using gems.
Just base enchantment being higher.
I am also aware how Apotheosis makes Spellweave go from 3lvs to 27Lvs

[jaunty arrow]

How do I reset the positions that had been sets on an advanced dominion wand?

[flat hull]

crafting grid

[abstract flower]

does anyone know with the locate structure ritual what item will augment it to find an arcane library? I cant find the answer anywhere online.

[mystic crown]

Jei. Hit U on the tablet if I recall to see the uses

[abstract flower]

yep, turns out its a mage’s spell book, thanks :)

[runic iris]

Does the Ars remote honor scry scrolls like the old enchanter's eye did? I recall that working but my memory is cheese at the moment.

[covert topaz]

I'm not sure what you mean

[runic iris]

I vaguely and most likely incorrectly remember testing remotes in 1.19 on Arcane Isles. I have multiple lecterns that I would connect to with my enchanter's eye using scry scrolls that pointed at the non-main lectern's eye.

I thought that the remote might have been honoring them, but doesn't look like it.

For instance, I had a dedicated lectern in my kitchen for all the Cooking for Blockheads storage.

[mystic crown]

quick question. what are we missing on the test server thats not showing the locate ritual uses for each structure?

do we just need to update additions?

lets see. latest is 21.2.2. we are rocking 21.1.7-alpha1

oh. no misread. we have 21.2.2. just SPL doing SPL things. so then what are we missing for being able to see the recipes

ah. both jei and tmrv are disabled. so none of the jei stuff was working right. lets try this with tmrv

aayyyy there we go

[runic iris]

Testing in my 1.19.2 Arcane Isles world. Doesn't look like the warp index interacts with scry scrolls at all.

[ancient night]

does the adv dom wand work on squirrels??

im trying to bind a squirrel to a series of imbument chambers and its not working?

it had before

i might be doign something wrong, but im not sure i am

[ancient night]

yeah i've used this before a few times i dont know that its working right >,.,<

that or im WAY tired

idk

1. shift right a bunckle. make sure it says "stored entity"
2. make sure the wand says locked mode be first so i can have the buncle deposit in the next targeted inventories...
3. shift right on my 8 imbuement chambers
   ??? profit??

is this right? (i tried it so many different ways i just dont know why it isnt saying anything when i try to interact with the inventories after it says stored entity

[covert topaz]

That seems right to me

[ancient night]

im so lost imma try again

i ended up using the base wand to set up my rig but i would've been done 1/8th the time

,.,<

[covert topaz]

It may have broken, I'll check it out

[ancient night]

okay thanks

[viral tendon]

What's a source spawner

[covert topaz]

Uses source to spawn mobs in containment jars

[viral tendon]

kk

[covert topaz]

Form Glyph idea, Conjure Magetool, creates a temporary tool inscribed with the remainder of the spell. The tools have the durability of gold tools but can be customised with augments. Tools have a cooldown based on the casters mana regen, and while the tool exists it reserves the mana cost from the caster

Please give feedback

[patent iron]

How would you decide the type of tool you summon? Would following with the break effect summon a pickaxe for example?

[covert topaz]

Augment based

Otherwise it would be hard to differentiate the spell

<glyph> <spell> - wand
<glyph> <spell> - sword

Etc

[patent iron]

Can you have more than one tool summoned at once?

[covert topaz]

If you have the mana to support it, maybe

[patent iron]

I suppose luck would just be fortune/looting. Maybe extract would have a chance of dropping the mobs head if placed on a sword.

[viral tendon]

Idea is cool but I don't see how it could be useful

Oh wait maybe it is nice in multiplayer

You can quickly make tools on the fly and toss them to others

Would also advertise Ars lol

[open dragon]

Main reason why I never attempted is the mess with tracking items in inventory

[covert topaz]

I already have that due to Reliquaries, so it's making more use of the existing mess

and Explorer's Warp Scrolls have async inventory updates

so the system is already built

[runic iris]

I think one advantage of that is to deal with mods that check for specific tools in the player's hand to require you to harvest blocks. Another is to pop out the correct pick or axe to easily remove trapdoors without playing hot/cold games with range and .

[viral tendon]

Is there any way to change the allthearcanistgear to get higher tier threads onto it?

It goes upto 3 tiers but I wanted to add a thread from Ars Plus

Which needs a tier 4 slot

[ancient night]

? They have tier 6 slots at max don't they... I mean I know they do tho

And at atm level they at elsst have 4

[viral tendon]

I checked tho, allthemodium robes have 1-2-3 and the unobtanium has 3-3-3

no 4 or higher

Probably got added in 1.21, I am on 1.20.1

Maybe I need to "upgrade" on the enchanting apperatus again. I assumed because I have already upgraded the armour I used to make it to tier 3 so it wouldn't even let me

[ancient night]

i think its from another mod maybe

allthearcanist robes?

but its a good mod

sorry

but its so good

xD

[covert topaz]

Yeah it's 1.21 only

[ancient night]

OH

i didnt see the full comment i feel silly

sorry

[viral tendon]

weeps in 1.20

Alr thx

[viral tendon]

How's the fit

😁

[spring hull]

can soemone explain me the advanced dominion wand vs the regular one?

[covert topaz]

Advanced Dominion Wand allows you to lock either your first position/entity or your second position/entity

For linking lots of chests to a Storage Lectern, you'd store the lectern position, and set it to lock second, then you can click all your chests to link them without going back and forth to the Storage Lectern

[spring hull]

it works also with starbuncles?

[covert topaz]

Yep

It should anyway

[spring hull]

thanks :3

[wary rivet]

what's with the blue_empty.nbt, green_empty.nbt in data\ars_additions\structure\nexus_tower\? Are they used? I figured it out but I don't wanna say cuz it's kinda spoilers hehe

[kindred crane]

Were nexus Towers made more rare?

[covert topaz]

Nope, just rng

[unborn mulch]

I had the closest one to spawn be out of range of the command once.

Went about 100 blocks north and found one on the very edge of the command's limit.

Though I usually get them pretty close to spawn

And have spawned on top of them a few times.

Those were fun to get down from.

(/s)

[spring hull]

what does exactly glyph of mark/recall do?

like, what the Reliquary where they are stored i dont get it

[formal citrus]

The first time I attempted to use the advanced dominion wand, it just wouldn't work. I tried a dozen times to link a repository to a lecturn, nothing happened. I finally threw that wand away and tried with the normal one. Then i got the message that the repository was more than 30 blocks away 😓 I think the advanced wand needs some more feedback messages.

[covert topaz]

Are you on 1.21? I think a recent update may have broken it

[covert topaz]

Unstable Reliquary, you hold it in your offhand while casting, or on a pedestal next to your turret

[spring hull]

and it can hold only 1 mark or any? is a bit difficult to understand this form/effect glypoh

[covert topaz]

Each reliquary can hold one mark, but they're an item, so you can have multiple reliquaries

[formal citrus]

Yes, I'm on the latest version.

[wary rivet]

https://legacy.curseforge.com/minecraft/data-packs/flashing-nexus-towers
Made a datapack for Flashing Archwood (from Ars Elemental) Nexus Towers!

[spring hull]

https://gnomebot.dev/paste/mclogs/WGfRQwq
I suppose i did something wrong with the advanced dominion wand, also idk how to lock up the modes

also i assume that the keybinding is the toggle selection hud?

it doesnt seem to do anything

[viral tendon]

Isn't the selection HUD that circle that pops up to select a spell in a spellbook?

[spring hull]

then what should i do to use the advanced dominion wand?

i though i understood it but

[viral tendon]

I haven't really used it but it can lock onto entities or targets like storage

If you store an entity, say a starby, you can link it to many storage without having to store the starby after every link

[spring hull]

yeah but idk if i lock the mode then it doesnt lemme do anything else

[viral tendon]

This can also work if you want to link many starbies to 1 storage (although might just be for "taking from the inventory")

[spring hull]

also it doesnt seem to be able be unbinded

[viral tendon]

You seem to have selected the target and locked it but idk how to unlck it lol😅

Gonn have to ask Mr Jarva for this one

[spring hull]

well for now ill just use the base wand, i hope jarva can bring some clarity onthe this

Also another thing i fond is that if u break the warp nexus with the book ( ) it doesnt drop the nexus warp scroll

[viral tendon]

Never really understood warp nexus stuff so I just stopped even going to them lol, I discover 5 new towers everyday

[sly jetty]

You can craft it on its own (any crafting screen, just put it in there) to unbind it

[viral tendon]

oh yeah thjta would work

nice

[spring hull]

and u know how to actually use it? T-T

[sly jetty]

While I can't say for certain how it works for anyone else since it seems that some people aren't able to follow this,
#1207058223421595749 message

This is exactly the way I use it

[spring hull]

uhm u do select the locket firt/second first or the storage lectern (in my case) first?

[sly jetty]

My most frequent use case for the advanced dominion wand is to just keep a Splitter Relay on "Locked First" so I can use the same wand to have the splitter send source to any new source-requiring-block I put down

[sly jetty]

I'm not sure it matters; you can switch between locked first and locked second even after binding it to something
But just in case, I always select which "locked" I want first then bind afterward

[spring hull]

uhm it doesnt seem to be working

[spring hull]

i cant choose what locked mode i want first because it keeps crashing if i do that xD

[flat hull]

i believe that rn the adv dominion wand only works on IWandable

which is probably a mistake

youll just have to use the normal wand for now

[sly jetty]

Aiyah, did it get bugged recently?

[flat hull]

alternatively if you have controle, the remote can also do locking on either side now

[sly jetty]

Well then

[sly jetty]

https://discord.com/channels/743298050222587978/1262068003072114750 😌

[spring hull]

sadly atma havent decided on add controle yet :c

[flat hull]

if youre on singleplayer you can add it anyway

ive seen someone on the atm discord say theyre playing atma with all of my addons lol

[sly jetty]

Hahah nice

[flat hull]

controle, unification, polymorphia

[sly jetty]

I've been extremely satisfied with Ars and its addons lately so I haven't looked around here in a while 😌 Unification continues to be a goat

[spring hull]

was me, but its a fresh start i wanna keep pressuring them to gimme all the adons :3

[flat hull]

wasnt you actually

anyways dont want to hijack but basically this is how you use remote now #addon-showcase message

[spring hull]

yeah i saw it, im really tempted to add it back

[runic iris]

This is something I need to get into. Because I play with flipped mouse buttons, the advanced wand is worthless to me.

[flat hull]

confused by that statement

[runic iris]

All because I play left handed at home, I cannot use it. If I swap to right handed, the wand works.

[flat hull]

wtf?

[runic iris]

The remote should work fine.

It's not unusual. 10% of the general population is left handed. With up to 60% of people in creative fields.

[flat hull]

no but like

why does it matter for the adv dominion wand

[runic iris]

So right handed people rarely test their stuff in a left handed config. They won't even notice when they've hard-coded keys for stuff like that.

Hexerei's brooms used to be completely useless to me because of that. Then JoeFoxe finally got around to fixing the binds. The wand has the same problem, though.

The keybinds are secretly right-handed-player-only.

[flat hull]

well im fairly sure i dont have any custom binds so you should be good on that front

you might have to rebind your radial wheel to something more comfortable for you but im sure you already do that

[runic iris]

Exactly. The remote should just work. Which is going to be a lifesaver as I'm reworking my storage this weekend.

And I've got some not-so-crazy ideas for the Ars test server for once.

[covert topaz]

Advanced Wand will be updating to the radial setting in the next update

[spring hull]

thats good

[rigid pier]

Hey so Im trying to turn on the arcane permenance ritual in my world, I spawned in the ritual because I did not want to make my own recipe. But now it still doesnt work. I understand I need to turn it on in the config but am confused on what that means/how to do that. Any help would be greatly appreciated

[ancient night]

There's a config.

It'll say recipe in it, and be set to false. Set it to true..

:3

[rigid pier]

where is the config

[rigid pier]

@ancient night

[ancient night]

In config folder

Arsadditions

Or something like this

I think it was the first one in the config too

[rigid pier]

Yeah i found the config folder

and the arsadditions

[ancient night]

Yuh!

[rigid pier]

but cant find the arcane permenance

anywhere

[ancient night]

It's the um

Chunk loading ritual

It's like the first option to change :)

It'll mention the recipe!

[ancient night]

Not in here

In the server config

So in the folder you found this in

[rigid pier]

yeah

im trying to find hte server config now

[ancient night]

Look for a file. Like those, but it says server ars additions

K

Sorry I'm not at pc right now

I'd be more helpful :c

[rigid pier]

like this?

[ancient night]

Go further down

[rigid pier]

all good much bettter help than me doing this by myself lol

[ancient night]

It's not a folder

It's a single file

In this folder

[rigid pier]

found it

thank you so much

[ancient night]

Ars_additions_server.toml or close

No problem!

Remember!

Do t edit while server is on

Or it won't save

Ok?

Do not*

[rigid pier]

yeah, actually i found it but what do i switch to true again?

#Ritual of Arcane Permanence
[chunkloading]
#Should the ritual cost source?
has_cost = true
#Should the ritual cost be continuous?
repeat_cost = true
#How much source should it cost to run the ritual?
# Default: 10000
# Range: 1 ~ 10000
cost = 10000
#How often should the ritual cost source? (in ticks, defaults to 1 in-game day)
# Default: 24000
# Range: > 1
interval = 24000
#How far should the ritual chunk-load? (in chunks, 0 = 1x1, 1 = 3x3, 2 = 5x5, 3 = 7x7, 4 = 9x9)
# Default: 0
# Range: > 0
initial_radius = 0
#Should the radius be able to be increased with an item?
radius_incremental = false
#What item is required to increase the chunk-loading radius?
radius_increment_item = "ars_nouveau:source_gem_block"
#What's the maximum amount of augmented increases the ritual should accept?
# Default: 1
# Range: > 1
radius_increment_max = 1
#Should the ritual require the player who started it to be online?
require_online = true
#How many rituals should players be able to run?
# Default: 2147483647
# Range: > 1
max_rituals = 2147483647
#Should the server log when a chunk is loaded/unloaded?
log_chunkloading = false

[ancient night]

Right so it should be the first option, was that not mentioning the um recipe?

pout let me get up. I'm just sitting with gf at the moment

[rigid pier]

damn mb gang

[rigid pier]

sorry sorry

[ancient night]

here we are

this needs to be true

nono i really am happy to help, please disregard the pout, it was playful

[rigid pier]

lmao bet,

its nto there at all

should i just type it in manually

[ancient night]

yep!

just delte the "false"

and put "true"

save the file

and asll set

make sure the serve's off before opening it tho

[rigid pier]

got it

im testing it rn and ill let you know

[flat hull]

that should probably be moved to the server config

common configs arent synced to the client

confusing naming but yeah

[rigid pier]

Sorry for the late response it took a while to restart everything

the recipe works now

but the chunk loading still doesnt

im testing it and its still giving me the your storage lectern is not loaded

im using the stabilized warp index in the overworld

and am like 200 blocks away

lol thats crazy

whats the point of putting a wizard or any animal in a containment jar, i thought they were just for decoration

[ancient night]

nah there's purpose i didnt mean to pos tthat here either woops

[rigid pier]

Alright its working now but it made my world super laggy

any idea on that or nah

nevermind it was jkust me

thanks so much for the help

have a great day

[covert topaz]

Server configs don't load before recipes

[flat hull]

what the frick

[kindred crane]

Are the Monster Jars in the Arcane Library real?

[covert topaz]

They should be, why?

[kindred crane]

I made this set up for a while, and they haven't dropped anything yet from the drygmi

Finally, went through a full jar before they started to drop

[mystic crown]

Add some mobs that don't drop anything

[flat hull]

NPE from the craftoria server

[chilly flume]

where is the secret room? i cant find it

[covert topaz]

It's a 1/6 chance, some towers won't have it

[viral tendon]

what are the "irregularities"

[patent iron]

That would be falseweave leading to said secret room

[runic iris]

heh. I always forget that magical sight will make certain blocks and creatures in Ars glow.

(Hint, hint)

[viral tendon]

okk

[unborn mulch]

I saw that message, went over to the Nexus near my Coven, and instantly found the Falseweave.

It's on two sides.

[runic iris]

I knew about one of them until I accidentally walked out the other one and fell to my death.

[unborn mulch]

Splat

[drifting plume]

Are the false weaves at the tops or bottoms of the towers?

[bronze bough]

Is this ritual creative-only?

[patent iron]

Recipe can be enabled in configs

[unborn mulch]

Around the middle.

[drifting plume]

Like windows?

[unborn mulch]

More like doors.

[drifting plume]

I see

[covert topaz]

Please keep secret discussion in spoiler tags or DMs

[runic iris]

Frankly, I know the secrets and still get caught by them. Very well done, sir. Very.

My go to is still: land on top and drill into the Nexus with .

[drifting plume]

So sorry op

[bronze bough]

How do Source Spawners work? I can't find documentation ingame or on the mod page

[runic iris]

Place spawner. Place jar of source nearby. Put down a containment jar with creature you want to spawn.

There are rules beyond that. No NBT is handled so you get a basic and generic version of the creature type.

Additionally, if you spawn a tamed mob the spawns will NOT be tamed to you.

For some modded creatures like Occultism familiars, this means they are untamable and possibly hostile.

[sand crater]

Imagine spawning 500 Bumblezone Sentry Watchers and scattering them around the server >:3

[runic iris]

I was using them to mass spawn untamed owls for people to get started with a Hexerei-based mail system on the Ars Test server.

Discovered that creatures without wild versions do really really strange things. Wixies and Bookwyrms turn into their tokens. Some other things just poof on spawn.

Like animated blocks - those don't duplicate blocks but just make little clouds of nothing.

[manic edge]

reminds me of why carry on is limited in most servers lol

[bronze bough]

If I decide to use a Warp Index from Ars Additions or a Haversack or anything like that to remotely deposit to my Lectern storage system, does the destination need to be chunkloaded?

[covert topaz]

Yes, if you don't have a chunkloading mod, you can go into the ars additions config and enable the ritual of arcane Permanence

[wary rivet]

there's a Touch-Break-Smelt-Item Pickup spell turret in the Arcane Library, but it doesn't seem to actually smelt the cobblestone it's meant to break

[covert topaz]

Unfortunately the spell augments were updated in 1.21 but I haven't had a chance to update the spell yet

[wary rivet]

are the contents of a Warp Nexus per-player or per-world?

[covert topaz]

per-player

[mystic crown]

is there a way to mass produce imbued parchments? if i want a minigame where everyone gets 20 firework spells, i dont want to scribe a billion parchments

aha

[covert topaz]

You can automate scribing by placing a spellbook or parchment on a pedestal with an imbuement chamber

[mystic crown]

scribed parchment in a pedestal

still a full parchment per cast though right? so 2 mageblooms and a paper

no way around that

[covert topaz]

Correct

Should be easy to automate with a ritual of harvest and a wixie

[mystic crown]

oh then i have to send those scribed ones back in a chamber again to imbue them. got it

[covert topaz]

Yeah exactly

Or in theory you could remove the pedestal item

Not sure if that could help

[mystic crown]

jei is no help of course. and the book doesnt currently show recipes on the server

[covert topaz]

Yeah i think I need to add entries for them but have had negative time to work on things

[bronze bough]

How does the Advanced Dominion Wand differ from the base one? There's no codex entry for it or mention on the modpage

[covert topaz]

In 1.21 the advanced Dominion Wand is broken and will be rewritten

[bronze bough]

I'm on 1.20.1 currently

[covert topaz]

It allows you to lock a position or entity in the wand, and connect other items to that position or entity

Primary use case would be storing the position of a storage lectern

Setting it to lock second (because you connect the lectern second when linking an inventory)

And then you can just click each chest to link it instantly

[mystic crown]

Quite nice if you want to link 128 repositories to a lectern or 64 jars to a handful of splitters

[runic iris]

Some 1.20 packs have an advanced wand that works with my flipped mouse, most don't. Depends on the specific mod version.

But if you are a "normal" right hand user even the 1.19 version works to do linking.

[hoary patrol]

so uh, accidentally broke a nexus with a break spell, is there any way to place it back down in the same place that still makes the teleport free or did i screw up?

[flat hull]

you dun screwed up

[hoary patrol]

any way through commands at least?

playing on a server with friends so that should be fine

[flat hull]

probably is, but i dont know the exact steps

[hoary patrol]

even if i place one with identical nbt to a naturally generated one, it still costs source

[hoary patrol]

well since i can't get the free version back even with commands, is there at least a way to recolor it back to where the little light in the middle is green instead of the basic ars color?

[open dragon]

I guess something like using mage light with the spell color set?

[hoary patrol]

that just spawns a mage light next to it sadly

[covert topaz]

Update the block state using commands, it uses the same method as shriekers

[covert topaz]

It should work with Wololo

[hoary patrol]

YES

green my beloved

[hoary patrol]

how does one do that?

i just copied nbt tags with ctrl+middle click

i don't actually know how to mess with things like that using commands

oop, figured it out! thanks!!

[covert topaz]

No problem, for future reference, you can do it using the /set command or using the debug stick

[bronze bough]

Does moving a Nexus with the CarryOn mod also screw it up?

Assuming it can be targeted by CarryOn, haven't tried

[covert topaz]

It wouldn't but it shouldn't be carryable

[coral juniper]

it is.

it very much is,

its annoying to open the warp scroll tab

cuz it keeps getting carry on'd

[covert topaz]

What mod version?

or MC version

[coral juniper]

1.20.1

[empty warren]

how does the reliquary work for ars additions

[runic iris]

You apply a spell with [mark] it in to obtain a reliquary item. Then you can do things with it. Beyond that, I've not tried to use it.

[empty warren]

ive done it i just cant use it oddly

[thorny zephyr]

Hiiii, I crafted a source spawner but I don't know how to use it, do I need any contraption?

[glossy ravine]

Just give it source and a mob in a Containment Jar that you want to spawn

[thorny zephyr]

Aaaaaa

Thank you

I thought it would spawn source hahahaah

[glossy ravine]

I had the same thought when I first saw it lol

[runic iris]

That is kind of the inverse thing - turning mobs into source. But no, it's just a source and containment jar powered spawner. Has some very interesting behavior when used with different mobs.

[mystic crown]

From what I understand, mark is an effect, so projectile mark sets the reliquary target.

And then recall is a shape. So it's not like projectile recall or something. Just "recall place block" would set a block at that location if the reliquary was a block space

[viral tendon]

Does the ritual of arcane permanence work fine in 1.20?

I heard it had some crashing issues or something, just wanted to confirm

[covert topaz]

It should do

[viral tendon]

Does it use like 1 source jar per mc day?

[covert topaz]

Depends on thr config

[viral tendon]

kk

thx

[coral juniper]

how do u craft it ?? jei doesnt want ot show

[covert topaz]

Recipe is disabled by default

[coral juniper]

gotta do config?

[covert topaz]

Enable it in ars_additions-common.toml

Next update is making it enabled by default

[coral juniper]

u still update for 1.20.1 right?

[covert topaz]

Nope

[coral juniper]

aw :c

[viral tendon]

Tho for me it was enabled by default

in 1.20

.1

[covert topaz]

modpack specific

It's never been enabled by default in the mod

[coral juniper]

wouldnt that be a really simple thing to do tho

[covert topaz]

It is, it's in the config

[viral tendon]

But mine is a custom modpack

[covert topaz]

Then you turned it on, it's been disabled since I added it I'm pretty sure

[viral tendon]

strange

I never changed the configs :)

[viral tendon]

I remember a staff was planned to be added to Additions

I have a few suggestions for it :)

So ofc the higher glyph limit would be there

The staff has 5 slots instead of 10 like the spellbooks

The selling point of the staff would be a mana discount and more spell power

Staff shouldn't have a form already, so you can add all kinds of spells to it

.
Balance:-

• Mana discount
• Higher spell power
• Longer spells

- Have to inscribe spells (can't make anything on the go like a spellbook)
- 5 slots as opposed to 10 of the spellbook

[open dragon]

Those aren't drawbacks, they are minor inconveniences

[viral tendon]

Hmmm, is it unbalanced?

Mana discount can be like 20 to 30
High spell power can be 5 to 10 yk

I just think that ppl should use something other than spellbooks too

[open dragon]

5 sp means doubling the base damage of an glyph

It's probably ATM level balancing at that point

[viral tendon]

mb idk exactly what would be good lol

i have atag on my server so I get around 6 sp from each armour piece and I thought 5 would be ok lol

[covert topaz]

6 is a lot, it's meant to make Ars comparable endgame to other options

Currently the plans are the Staff will have 5 extra glyph slots. It will only have 1 spell slot, and will be able to change it on the go.

You will also be unable to use the staff with anything in your offhand

[viral tendon]

Wdym by change it on the go

[viral tendon]

nvm I have 12 from each armour piece lol

[covert topaz]

It will have the spell book UI but with no extra slots

[viral tendon]

hmmmmmmmmm

I will be completely honest

hmmm

Why would there be spellbook ui when ur holding a staff

[covert topaz]

Because I'm not remaking the UI

It's impossible to make something have more glyph slots without having the UI access, because scribing just puts the spell from what you're holding

And you can't make a spell with more slots in the spellbook because you don't have the slots

[glossy ravine]

100% fair lol

[viral tendon]

mb yeah that works

[bronze bough]

So what exactly would be the advantage of this staff, that it'd have in total 15 slots instead of 10 to use for 1 spell it can hold? If I'm understanding correctly, that sounds neat

[covert topaz]

Yes, it allows one big spell

[flat hull]

https://gnomebot.dev/paste/mclogs/r8r3BhB#L19204 another crash on latest 1.21 (21.2.2)

[covert topaz]

That's the same one

[abstract spruce]

The latest version of the mod crashed when i was using the adv dominion wand
i didnt get a screenshot of the logs unfortunately

[covert topaz]

Known issue, I haven't had a chance to fix it, just don't use adv dominion wand for now

[flat hull]

add controle and use remote instead

[kindred zodiac]

Hey, new mage here. I'm trying to setup a wixie craft with AE2. I think I hooked up everything right but can't figure out how to continue this

[covert topaz]

Do you have ars Energistique?

[kindred zodiac]

Yes

I figure out somehow in general chat, not fully automatic but is good enough

and I'm at 1.20.1 too

[covert topaz]

Ah yeah 1.20.1 is outdated unfortunately

[viral tendon]

What happens if you have undying thread and totem charm from additions, which one gets used first

[covert topaz]

Not sure, let me know

[viral tendon]

Alright

well i did die once with both them activated, but it was that strongest mage from Ars Plus and it ignores totems lol

I will test with fall damage next time

[viral tendon]

Alright so

I tested

and the ars additions charm worked first

then the undying thread

I was really

Because i thought maybe if both activated i will die then lol

but undying thread has a message when you die

which popped up after i junped second time

or fell ig

[covert topaz]

Yeah only one should ever trigger

[viral tendon]

also

about the ender source jar

how does it work

I have 2, one gets filled at the sourcelink, other gets used at the ritual

can i have more that 2? will they all be connected or are 2 linked to eachother only

[covert topaz]

They all connect to each other

It's multiple blocks, but one pool of source shared between them all

(all that you placed)

Each player has their own source pool

[viral tendon]

Ah alright

Thanks

[covert topaz]

(Technically fake players also have their own source pool, so Ars turrets and Create deployers can create separate source networks)

[viral tendon]

fake players? 🤨

[covert topaz]

It's how mods interact with blocks and entities like they're a player, they use a fake player under the hood, which has it's own user ID, it doesn't actually exist as a player but it's what the actions are attributed to.

[viral tendon]

o

ok

[viral tendon]

about the staff

how about a charging thingy

like yk how they charge attacks in tv shows to do a bigger/powerful attack

2 possibilities with this:

1- added spell power

2- accelerate and/or amplify/augmentThatMakesTheSpellMorePowerful

[covert topaz]

You can change the block state using commands or a debug stick

By good and bad, do you mean one that costs source and one that's free?

It's block state, not block data

[abstract spruce]

What does this actually do and what version of the mod doesn't have this problem

[wicked inlet]

Am I missing something? I have edited the server config file but the effect still only lasts for 5 minutes and the reliquary breaks instantly when used on players

1.20.1 if that matters

[wicked inlet]

Of course I edited it on the server and not locally, but maybe I have to enable override somewhere or smth.

[mystic crown]

Check that it didn't create a .bak file when it launched

[pastel flume]

How do I use the source spawner I dont get it nor can I find any information on it

[thick ocean]

basically it uses source to spawn choosen entities

[wicked inlet]

Place a source source near it and a jar with whatever you want to spawn

Sadly doesny really work with ice and fire dragons as I just learned

They spawn lvl 1 and not what's in the jar

[glossy ravine]

Yeah the dragons don’t work with several things in Ars sadly

[runic iris]

I avoided jarring any of the Dragon Mounts: Reborn dragons just because they might count as legitimate ender dragon variants. You cannot remove the ender dragon from the jar once captured. Which is less than useful for a flying mount.

[thick ocean]

that makes sense

[wicked inlet]

I mean you can test it in creative?

[runic iris]

Could. Won't I finished that modpack ages ago. Did lots of testing in creative in that pack due to the huge number of interacting magic mods.

Both the Animalistic and Dragon Mounts mods in Witch Hazel had really poor interaction with other mods. Ars Aditions stuff in particular. Use of a nexus, even from one distant location to another, could teleport all your pets to your location.

As the smallest one was still 5x5x8 blocks in size, this is an issue for your typical warp nexus.

[wicked inlet]

Will this work? Apparently regular minecraft duration limit is 1'000'000 seconds, but if you are using the /effect command you can use infinite as duration, so I wondered if it would work for this too

[covert topaz]

No, it expects a number

[wicked inlet]

Alright, thanks!

[covert topaz]

I could make it allow -1 for infinite

[wicked inlet]

I am just trying to replicate having a "stable" reliquary with a config, I was looking through chat and found out you feel conflicted about it

But I would be happy to have an option

[covert topaz]

It's fine for PVE servers, but I can't assume everyone is PVE only

In PVP, it ends up being ridiculously strong

[wicked inlet]

I get it, yeah

If it can maybe be done as config to enable/disable a stable reliquary crafting recipe, would be super nice. Wanted to use it to store all of our players references in one place so we can teleport to each other/other players to us

[runic iris]

The only way I could see balancing that for PvP is for a special reliqury that a player makes that is marked for themself only. The creation and giving to someone makes it that player's responsibility for the consequences of having said item in game.

[covert topaz]

Yeah i do like that idea

[wicked inlet]

So kind of like hexcasting true name system

It warns you in chat when you try to get your true name, like "Are you sure? Dont give it to anyone!", and there is a ritual to change your true name

[floral quiver]

Hello. Are you able to craft imbuement spell scrolls or do you have to find them as loot?

If you can craft them, how do you do it? I've been messing around with them in Creative and can't figure it out. The entry on them in the Ars book isn't very clear either.

[wicked inlet]

The range should probably be up to a million for marked duration, because if its more than that it just doesnt work, yare yare minecraft restrictions

Also would be nice if the effect didnt make particles, kinda annoying for the target of the spell, regardless friend or foe

[covert topaz]

Put a scribed spell scroll in an imbuement chamber

[floral quiver]

You mean a spell parchment? I tried that but I get the message that's there's no recipe.

Do I need something on pedastals surrounding the chamber or something?

[covert topaz]

No pedestals at all, what versions? Show the spell parchment?

[floral quiver]

Ars Additions 1.20-1.2.19

[covert topaz]

You've scribed a spell onto the parchment?

[covert topaz]

Strange, I'm not sure then

[floral quiver]

Been stumped for hours

[covert topaz]

This isn't a valid version for Additions

[floral quiver]

Oh I wrote it wrong. My bad.

I have no idea what I was looking at when I typed that. 11pm with work in the morning will do that lol.

[covert topaz]

I'm not too sure, it may be broken in 1.20 unfortunately

[meager lily]

is there a way to make unstable reliquary enchantable using kubejs?

[floral quiver]

Aw, that's a shame. Is it safe to assume it won't be fixed since Ars Additions has moved to 1.21.1?

[quasi relic]

is spellweave broken ? it does not increase thread slot tier more than 3 on higher enchantment levels

[flat hull]

there shouldnt be higher levels than 3

im assuming apotheosis/apothic enchanting is letting you

in which case the pack should probably configure it back down to 3

[quasi relic]

Thank you for the information it seems i was too greedy

[covert topaz]

Spellweave caps put at whatever the maximum registered thread slot is. If you have All The Arcanist Gear it should be tier 6

[quasi relic]

this is what happens when i put it on the alteration table

i do have all the arcanist gear

[covert topaz]

Will have to take a look, it should allow up to arcanist gear

[quasi relic]

the modpack is atm 10 3.2 btw

[covert topaz]

All good

I make both mods, so I'll check it when I get time

[late saddle]

tablet of arcane permanance has no recipie in jei nor the mage book. any fix or is this a bug? the config seems to not have any area that would indicate it can be disabled.

(using latest version on neoforge 1.21.1)

[thick ocean]

It should be a config but I don't know where
The mage book Is concerning

[covert topaz]

Check ars_additions-common.toml

Recipe doesn't exist unless enabled by the config

[late saddle]

ah that was my problem, i was looking in the server config. thanks.

[meager lily]

can you make unstable reliquary cross dimension? or add config for it or add upgrade for it

nvm found a way

[late saddle]

what was the way?

[thick ocean]

stable reliquary

[late saddle]

ah, duh

[wicked inlet]

That is not a thing

Or it is in the new versions? I am on 1.20.1

[thick ocean]

I think it is in the newer versions

[wicked inlet]

Ah unfortunate

Thanks for the info

[thick ocean]

I know it exists tho

[covert topaz]

It does not

[thick ocean]

Welp

Guess I'm schizophrenic

Wait I'm thinking about the warp index then

Lol

[covert topaz]

Most likely yes

[thick ocean]

Also good instance of the forth dimension to you

[strong frigate]

How the Spellweave Enchantment is meant to work? The higher the level the higher the new thread slot or the more slots it would provide?

I enchanted three diamond helmets with each level of the enchantment from I to III to see for myself, but seemingly all of them gain only one thread slot - in all the cases which is at level III

[quasi relic]

this was the response i got but

[quasi relic]

this is what happened

they said they would look into it

[quasi relic]

only one slot but the level was supposed to change with level

[strong frigate]

would it add one more slot for the Thread or set the level of one of them to be that? It matters if oyu have armour with Thread slots already...

[quasi relic]

if you have an armor with thread slots you cannot enchant it with spellweave

so you cannot increse thread slots nor the thread level

once enchanted

[strong frigate]

I did apply this enchantment on a piece of gear that already have them with creative mode and it deleted two thread slots from the piece.
Grinding enchantment away did nothing - previously enchanted piece of gear did not regain it's thread slots at all.

I checked in survival if you even could do it as you said you can't... and no, it not possible in survival.

Also why Magebloom Carpet requires two blocks of Magebloom but gives only one Carpet in a recipe? All vanilla carpet recipe gives 3 of them as output.

[thick ocean]

It should give far more I agree

[thick ocean]

hello i just want to point out a bug in the documentation of the jar of miners wisdom
it routes to the ender source jar

[covert topaz]

Bug

[covert topaz]

The enchantment is not compatible with armors that have thread slots already

[outer egret]

Hi! I made the datapack for glyphs tier II and III but it isnt working

Heres the path:
Glyphs/
├── pack.mcmeta
└── data/
└── ars_addtions/
└── loot_table/
└── chests/
└──#tower and library#.json

[outer egret]

Fixed it, the .json was for chests instead of structures and the path was incorrect too

@unkempt pike made more then me. Credits for him

[thick ocean]

YIPPEE

[floral quiver]

How does the Wixie's Enchanting Apparatus work? I've given it source, a valid inventory (containing the items needed for enchanting) to pull from and a pedestal with the item I want to enchant.

I have also tried to just put the item I want enchanted in the wixie apparatus itself, nothing. I did that and had the required items for enchanting on pedestals within 1 block of the apparatus. Nothing works. What am I doing wrong or is this another 1.20.1 bug?

[covert topaz]

Can you show screenshots?

[floral quiver]

Yep. Hang on.

@covert topaz

The inventory is also linked.

[covert topaz]

As with all Wixies, they want the output item on the pedestal, not the recipe. So you'll need to clear the pedestals and put a book of the enchantment you want to enchant

[floral quiver]

Oh, Wixies will only enchant books?

[covert topaz]

No

But the book instructs them what enchantment is wanted

Wixies need to be told the end item and they figure out the recipe themselves

So put a Sharpness 1 book on the pedestal, and throw your ingredients and item you want enchanted in the chest

[floral quiver]

Ok, that works now. Thank you. But now I'm seeing a different issue. No matter what level of book I put on the pedestal, it only does the level 1 of that book. So I put a Sharpness 5 book as a test and I got back a Sharpness 1 axe.

I also tried to to turn a Sharpness 1 axe into a Sharpness 2. Nothing happens.

[covert topaz]

When you did sharpness 2, did you have all the correct ingredients?

[floral quiver]

Yes. All in the Repository.

[covert topaz]

I remember testing this but it may be a 1.20 bug

I'm unable to check myself currently

[floral quiver]

Well, dang. Okay. I can make due without it.

[ashen kettle]

trying to get recall blink to work with a spell turret. For some reason recall magelight will work with a spell turret but recall blink will not resolve

or will not have an effect. Not sure if that's different

[covert topaz]

Show screenshots

[ashen kettle]

Screen shots

[covert topaz]

Where are you trying to teleport the mark to?

[ashen kettle]

I was just trying to get the blink effect to work, and then add scroll afterwords

I take it that doesn't work?

so the plan at least was to create a kind of redstone stasis chamber, that could be remotely triggered to teleport someone home. Tried adding a pedestal with a stabilized warp scroll next to the spell turret, no effect still

[covert topaz]

Blink when shot from a turret doesn't do anything without a scroll. Recall just makes it target the reliquary instead of shooting a projectile

[ashen kettle]

Got it working. For reference to anyone else running into this problem. If the spell turret is pulling a target from a reliquary. It also has to have the scroll be in the same inventory

[ashen kettle]

Is having mark recall break when the target enters another dimension intentional?

[covert topaz]

Yes

It's why the reliquary is unstable

[ashen kettle]

Are there any plans to make a stable reliquary? It would be pretty epic

[covert topaz]

Nope

[meager lily]

yearly appreciation for unstable reliquary working on turrets ty jarva 🙏

[thick ocean]

What

Oh it destabilized

[meager lily]

wait i look like a schizo let me send a video of what i mean

[thick ocean]

Lol

[foggy kayak]

How do you get the unstable reliquary?

[covert topaz]

You craft it

[solid patio]

Hello! is possible to locate villages using a Tablet of locate structure?

[runic iris]

I wonder if you can Scry for a composter block?

[mystic crown]

Should be able to. Scry isn't very good horizontal though. But can look down deep

[untold rose]

so if the library sturcture comes from this mod (so im told) can i use the find structure ritual to find it?

[runic iris]

Yes, but you have to put in a T2 spellbook for the item to search.

it's not a cheap request.

[mystic crown]

Well worth it

[covert topaz]

If you have JEI or EMI you can press U on the Ritual of Locate Structure item and it'll show you every structure it can locate

[runic iris]

ooooh. You put the Charge of Second Wind into an imbuement chamber and recharge with source. Clever. Also U on the item to the rescue!

[covert topaz]

All charms recharge via the imbuement chamber

[runic iris]

Consider that I only now managed to trip that while fighting the Iron's boss in the Citadel. I've not even used the Charm of Voids Salvation, yet.

[untold rose]

anyone know a decent seed for the libary to spawn i wanna poke around it and the nearest libary in my main world is 20k away

[floral quiver]

How many chunks can the arcane permanence ritual load? And can you control how many?

[covert topaz]

It's all in the config

[floral quiver]

Ah. I assumed the journal entry was incomplete. When it said "configurable", I didn't think it actually meant "use the configs". Thank you.

[untold rose]

if i go out to the arcane libary and world edit it back to my home island willl the traps and trinkets still work?

[covert topaz]

Depends on if you use the correct world edit options to capture entities and block data

[untold rose]

tbh i wonder what would be a better idea

1 take a create mod schematic and tear a library down
2 tear a library down after taking a world edit of the library

[thick ocean]

there is a blockprint of the library

[runic iris]

In case you don't know, the library schematics are available on blockprints.io.

The ruined one is possible available, too. But anything with data like chests don't copy properly.

[thick ocean]

Here

[sand pebble]

Ars Nouveau Library (No JSON) by WayofTime

A library I built in survival on a modded server featuring blocks from Ars Nouveau

5 Most Used Blocks

9350 minecraft:stone_bricks
3908 minecraft:dirt
2647 minecraft:stripped_birch_log
2274 ars_nouveau:sourcestone_large_bricks
1776 minecraft:stone_brick_stairs

Mod Count

1

Size

101x37x68

ec310f67-272a-4d0c-a6f5-8105302f4893 · Jun 19, 2024, 9:29 PM

[thick ocean]

No wait

Is that it?

Looks like it

Yea that's it

I think

Ok no it's not

[untold rose]

ooo yoink

[flat hull]

its the original library

jarva modified parts of it

like all the traps

[covert topaz]

It's the original, but it was mostly rebuilt and internally completely redesigned, then aged and then trapped

[thick ocean]

Ah

That's really cool actually

[spice bramble]

How do I find all my ender source jars?

[covert topaz]

Uhh, not particularly easy. You could try read the level data, it should store all the positions of the jars together

[spice bramble]

Thank you!

[covert topaz]

Can I ask what your need is?

If it's something that happens often I could potentially look at adding a command

[spice bramble]

I just am forgetful and like knowing where stuff like that is

[untold rose]

hmm so that blueprint for the libary is an NBT so im really hoping the schematicannon from create will handle it well

[covert topaz]

You'll need to increase the max size for the schematicannon in your create settings

If you want the one that spawns in the world, you can download that from the github page

https://github.com/Jarva/Ars-Additions/blob/1.21.0/src/main/resources/data/ars_additions/structure/arcane_library.nbt

[untold rose]

yeah i got my settings to like 2k if that aint enough ill just send it to 10k

and i gotta find a good spot for it on the island

[covert topaz]

Just remember, it's really big

[untold rose]

weird did i grab the right file XD damn things tiny compared to my mainbase

[untold rose]

grabbed it from this

this is the size of the one in the git are these actually the sizes of the buildings cuz it feels real small

[open dragon]

did you have like...chests with stuff in it

cause nbt files are mostly a list of blocks in their position, not even by name iirc but indexed with a dictionary

[untold rose]

i dont know i just grabbed the files from the git and the block print bot

gettin them inworld rn to see what shows up

[open dragon]

no i mean in your base, because your comparison is probably what makes you sus

[untold rose]

yeah my base has quite a bit

[open dragon]

then it's probably why those files are bigger, chests and other blocks with data are saved with all that data

a small thing like the starby statue is like 7kb

the library would be like more than 100 of them on a very raw comparison

[untold rose]

yeah the buildings complete now i gotta find a spot for the libary

[untold rose]

its gunna be so cool cuz i even have a create train that will tend to the libary

[runic iris]

The in-world spawning library is nice because you get free containment jars of things like Elder Guardians, creepers and ghasts. All of which are annoying to capture.

[mystic crown]

Definitely stole an elder guardian and pufferfish from one

[runic iris]

I think you have to be in Creative to get the cannon to place entities captures with blockprints. But I've duped creatures into test worlds before when working with the Nexus of Seasons design.

[bronze merlin]

how does mark and recall work?

[thick ocean]

Basically you need a reliquary in your offhand
When you cast the spell with mark where it lands (entity OR location) will be recorded in the reliquary until a spell with recall is cast. Then the spell will use up the reliquary to cast the spell with the entity or the location as the target

[soft depot]

Hi, I might be stupid, but how exactly do you make an imbued spell parchment out of a normal spell parchment ?

[covert topaz]

Put the spell parchment in an imbuement chamber

[soft depot]

no recipe found

ars_additions 1.67. & 1.20.1. btw

[covert topaz]

Do you have any pedestals nearby?

[soft depot]

I have, but they are empty

even if I move the chamber away it says there's no recipe

and there's no recipe showing up in the JEI

[north valve]

Quick question, can reliquaries get the Unbreaking Enchant?

I know that they're incompatible with mending on some versions but I'm uncertain about the Unbreaking enchant part

[covert topaz]

They shouldn't be able to get any enchants

[errant flax]

alright so this spell crashed the server when the delay timer ran out

[thick ocean]

interesting
however those glyphs are ars elemental

[errant flax]

...buh wrong one

[thick ocean]

Np

[hazy basin]

hm is there a way to reconfigure which slot the warp index goes into? right now its belt, one of the most limited slots, i'd like to bind it to something else (charm?)
can't find anything in any config, do i have to edit the jar? :D

[thick ocean]

this

[covert topaz]

Belt is commonly used for remote storage access

[covert topaz]

You can change the slots with a datapack or kubejs

Here's the belt config
https://github.com/Jarva/Ars-Additions/blob/1.21.0/src/generated/resources/data/curios/tags/item/belt.json

[restive drum]

I think the Handy Haversack will be the solution to my current inventory issues, but: when filtering, will it accept an item scroll: deny for the filter? basically 'grab everything but these items' automation

[bronze merlin]

How do i enable the T2 and T3 codex entries?

[restive drum]

Datapack to add them to the loot pools

Also: No the haversack will accept the item scroll as an item scroll, not as a list of items to either accept or deny

I'm gonna be adding a lot of items to the list, I fear

[errant flax]

can charms of undying actually have reactive in order to for example heal you to full when triggered?

[covert topaz]

Nope, reactive only triggers on left click

[errant flax]

pain

[errant flax]

could we get a config for how long the charms can last

for example, the unyeilding magic charm is just a waste of a charm slot, 3 dispel counters??

[covert topaz]

3 dispel counters can be a big difference in a pvp fight, but charm configs are on my to-do list

[errant flax]

I think some people would just have a dedicated dispel thing to just nullify it

[thick ocean]

Agreed
me personally I think it should be a 20-30 second effect (can't be dispelled during) when proced

[errant flax]

Dispel nerfs would be huge in any server environment

[thick ocean]

Yea

[open dragon]

you sure you're talking about Additions?

[crimson plover]

Oops

Wrong mod

Misclicked

[errant flax]

can souce spawners spawn raid leader pillagers? i'd assume no because they dont seem to carry over NBT data

[runic iris]

The source spawners will spawn a generic 'base' version of the mob, so no.

You cannot use them to cheese fancy armor or rare mob variants. You just get the basic mob of that type.

[covert topaz]

This is not intended, Source Spawners are supposed to copy NBT, minus a few things

[runic iris]

The also spawn unowned so, some source spawned creatures are super deadly. Like Dragon Mounts.

I've not tried an Ice & Fire Dragon. That might be even more disasterous as they always have block breaking.

[floral quiver]

How much source does a source spawner need for each operation?

[covert topaz]

Depends on the mob it's spawning

200 + (100 * hearts) + (1,000 if passive) + (10,000 if a boss)

[silver wyvern]

what is the diff between a normal and advanced dominion wand?

[thick ocean]

Advanced has more features that I think are explained in the guide

[north valve]

Let's say that we have a mob A and we tossed two items - for example two swords - for mob A to hold on each hand.

Now imagine we put that mob in a containment jar for a Source Spawner.

Would the specific mob that's summoned by the Source Spawner drop the two held items or not?

[thick ocean]

it would not

[covert topaz]

They wouldn't drop the held items, just spawn with them, ideally, real behaviour depends on whether mods introduce things like disarming enchantments that respect drop chances

[sullen orchid]

Hey, so using the ritual of arcane permanence, are you supposed to be able to turn it off with redstone like other rituals? Cause it seems to just be always on no matter what I do

[covert topaz]

Ah, i don't think it can be turned off, but you can remove the source supply

[bronze merlin]

Makes sense to assume the ritual with permanence in its name is permanent

[covert topaz]

Nah, it should be toggleable with redstone

[errant flax]

do the ars spawners respect if the mob is a baby or not?

i'd assume no

[covert topaz]

They should, but I don't know currently

[sullen orchid]

what is the source cost over time, btw?

for the ritual

configurable, by default a jar a day?

I think there might be a few issues with it, potentially. Gonna do some testing

one that I'll need to confirm is that I think you can turn off the source cost with a redstone signal right now, the other is that I don't think it's respecting the requirement that the player who started it be online based on how many eggs I found in my base when I logged in

but also, it was so many eggs that they really should have despawned... it was one chicken and it was like 18 stacks of eggs on the floor

it also was in a chunk that shouldn't have been loaded by the ritual, since it's set to 1x1 on the server config

but also, this was in the Planarium, so dunno if that affects things..

yeah, can confirm that it doesn't care if the player is online, Crash Utilities has revealed someone else's ritual to me and I'm the only one online

the config on the server is set to requiring the player to be online

[sullen orchid]

and now I can confirm that applying a redstone signal to the brazier will only shut off the Source consumption

[sullen orchid]

I suppose it makes sense the eggs persisted, as it was in one of the adjacent semi-ticking chunks? Where redstone works but entities aren't processed, that apparently means jarred chickens will spit out a bunch of eggs and they won't despawn

[covert topaz]

It could be that the chunk got stuck loaded due to a crash or something

[covert topaz]

But shutting off the source consumption does shut off the chunkloading, eventually

[covert topaz]

Yes 1 jar per ingame day

[sullen orchid]

but not with the redstone signal is what I'm saying

it stops the source consumption, still chunkloads

and I tested this over several in game days

and I found several rituals in a few people's bases still loading

[covert topaz]

Huh strange

[covert topaz]

Yeah, i suspect it's crash related

[sullen orchid]

well what about mine?

I just set it up, no crashes

and all those eggs

[sullen orchid]

this reminds me of the Ritual of Sanctuary, which only turned off the source consumption with redstone signal, but otherwise kept preventing mob spawns. I actually wonder if that one got fixed...

[errant flax]

It does not

[strong swan]

Does someone know why I'm unable to do the find arcane library ritual?

Everytime I put the spellbook it it just refunds the tablet and book instead of the compass

[covert topaz]

You're missing Terrablender for the Archwood Forest biome

[strong swan]

Ah thank you

[nimble mortar]

Are some mobs deny-listed by the source spawner? I'm playing with it in creative and it doesn't seem to want to spawn wilden chimeras or withers, but enderman work just fine, and wardens spawn but immediately dig back down (admittedly I got my sample warden with /summon warden, so its data might be wrong). I thought I saw that bosses can be spawned?

[glossy ravine]

It may be a source supply issue; bosses take much more to spawn

[nimble mortar]

I put down like 5 creative source jars, but maybe that wasn't enough. I'll litter the floor with them and see

[covert topaz]

By default bosses are blacklisted

[knotty sapphire]

Just out of curiosity, why are passive mobs pricier?

[covert topaz]

Passive mobs don't despawn by default

[knotty sapphire]

Makes sense.

[covert topaz]

@rustic leaf

also @unkempt pike

[rustic leaf]

Wonderful! Sorry again if what I said came off the wrong way.

[unkempt pike]

!!

get dominioned!

[covert topaz]

Any other feature requests while I have this open?

[unkempt pike]

oh jeeze

i got nothin

[rustic leaf]

Not that I can think of off the top of my head

[covert topaz]

I'm thinking about adding a mechanic where you can scrap Caster Tomes to get codex entries, I'm considering it producing a codex entry of the highest tier glyph in the caster tome, what do people think?

[thick ocean]

Thats an interesting idea

[covert topaz]

Gives a use to extra caster tomes, and a way of getting the higher tier codexes

[knotty escarp]

Yes, please. I have no experience with datapacks so this would remedy having to make one for the higher tier codex entries. :)

[covert topaz]

Any thoughts on how the scrapping should work?

[knotty escarp]

Maybe dipping the book in a full source jar? I know that Hex Casting has a feature similar to it that allows copper into gold and string into thought knots.

[thick ocean]

or perhaps some process with the scribes table
or even bring back the glyph press

[knotty escarp]

Glyph press would be fun and a nice nod back to the beginning of Ars Nouveau's development.

[thick ocean]

yea and it would be semi automatable

[covert topaz]

That's certainly a lot of effort for a minor feature

[thick ocean]

which is why I also said that it could be a process done with the scribes table

[covert topaz]

Yeah not sure what process that could be, I may just have it on something obscure, like striking the tome with lightning

Can be done early game with lightning rods

[thick ocean]

that would work as well

[covert topaz]

Xacris I saw you lurking, did you have thoughts?

[sullen orchid]

I have some worries that I'll need time to formulate

[thick ocean]

oh ok

[sullen orchid]

But first thought, I think it's potentially warping the incentive of the tomes while telling people to destroy them

[covert topaz]

My idea is to give a use for duplicate tomes

[sullen orchid]

Yeah but we know players will scrap all of them for glyphs

Regardless of our intentions

[covert topaz]

Depends on how beneficial we make it

but it could be a double edged sword

I'm trying to think of the best way to introduce codex entries for T2 and T3

[knotty escarp]

What about using the crush glyph to process the extra caster tomes? Also, automatable using Spell Turrets.

[sullen orchid]

Also just don't super love the imagery of destroying books tbh

[covert topaz]

That's fair

[knotty escarp]

Maybe the enchanting apparatus with a piece of paper in the middle?

[sullen orchid]

sweet I found Xacris's Firework Display, I can go grind it up to get !

[knotty escarp]

Books could be replaceable that way?

[sullen orchid]

like it doesn't just become for extra books, the ability to get some of these glyphs gives incentive to destroy them immediately

[covert topaz]

Ooooh, idea, what about adding a Librarian to the Ancient Library, that offers trades of specific tomes for specific glyphs?

[knotty escarp]

That sounds better tbh

[sullen orchid]

is this for tomes, or the codexes?

[thick ocean]

yea
good worries xacris

[sullen orchid]

becasue this was pitched as a method to get codices or whatever

[covert topaz]

Method to get codex entries yeah

[thick ocean]

we shouldnt be fahrenheit 451ing caster tomes

[covert topaz]

So Librarian that would want "Xacris's Firework Display" and would offer a T3 codex entry

or similar

And can offer other similar forbidden knowledge trades

like 10 T1 for a T2 codex entry

etc.

[knotty escarp]

I had the thought of exchanging lower tier codex entries for higher tiers too.

[sullen orchid]

I could fear that being too specific/random like a wandering trader, would it always ask for all tomes or only have some?

[knotty escarp]

Good idea tbh

[sullen orchid]

like when the wandering trader has nothing you want

[covert topaz]

Can have either, any tome or a specific tome, any tome could be downlevelled, specific could be exact level

Any tome for a T2 entry, or specifically Alex's Magnificent Mansion for T3

Still just theorycrafting

[knotty escarp]

What if there was a ritual of exchange or something similar where you could take a few codex entries and throw them into the flame to get one random tier?

[thick ocean]

or equivalent

[knotty escarp]

Yes

[sullen orchid]

... what about a collection? A special thing that you do register your codices in, and you would need a 2nd copy to get anything? Cause like my fear is of someone just throwing every caster tome they ever find into a shredder

[knotty escarp]

That's neat.

[sullen orchid]

something that specifically rewards doubled up tomes

[thick ocean]

ah yes caster tomes
collectors edition

[covert topaz]

Not sure how best to handle that

[knotty escarp]

A special bookshelf with places for each tome's name and when it's completed, it could begin the process of exchanging?

[sullen orchid]

yeah my thought is something like a bookshelf, and I would think that it could hold one of each caster tome, and inserting a tome that already exists in there would put it into a recycling slot where it would process over like 10 seconds (to give people time to take it out if they made a mistake) it would turn it into a codex entry

something along those lines

[knotty escarp]

That sounds fair to me. Only duplicates generate the entries.

I am now imagining someone with the handy haversack and binding it to the bookshelf to make it process the duplicates lol

[covert topaz]

I'm not fully vibing with the idea

the problem imo is that it would discourage use of the actual tomes

[sullen orchid]

that's fair, but I also think that would be an outcome for your base concept of this recycling, that most tomes would not be used and just ground down for parts

tbh I'm not sure touching the tomes at all is a good idea

[covert topaz]

@jaunty valve Spiritual Successor to Scroll of Save Starbuncle & Runic Stone of Storage

[jaunty valve]

And here I was ready with torch and pitchfork to rain fire on whoever pinged me, instead my heart's warm and I feel appreciated.

Damn it! I wanted to rage!

That's lovely! Feel free to use my assets if you need a horribly done sprite for it 😂

[covert topaz]

Appreciated haha, I plan on making this a multi-slot crystal that supports multiple different forms of data storage, so will likely need a new sprite

Also, unsure if you saw my message in #1019845252426776616

[jaunty valve]

Saw it now, you've got an answer

[hybrid river]

so whats you plan for the model

becase i would take the scryers eye remove the handle

[rustic leaf]

Glyph press mentioned ❤️

[rustic leaf]

How many unique tomes are there? I feel like i could think of some ideas but that number seems pretty important

[rustic leaf]

Off the top of my head, what if the tome had a way to detect spells (maybe it could be a toggle by sneak clicking with the book in your hand, so its not constantly searching and causing TPS issues.)

Then you could put in your off hand.

If it detects you casting the same spell as it, you’ve “mastered” the spell, and the tome is converted into a codex with the tier of the highest glyph in the spell. Or even cap the codex at T2 to prevent abusing the mechanic to farm T3 codexes.

If possible you could make it only available once per tome, per user. So then you can reward T3s without it being as exploitable. (But then you run into the issue of having a bunch of tomes in storage doing nothing but taking up space)

Gives you incentive to try out the tomes, and helps you learn spell crafting / glyph interactions all while rewarding you for your efforts

[rustic leaf]

Another concept if the detection thing isnt possible would be placing the book on a lectern or on the scribes table and clicking on it with a scroll that has the same spell. Same outcome, just a dif approach.

[rustic leaf]

@covert topaz Im genuinely curious about your opinion on my idea. I thought it was a good one tbh.

[covert topaz]

I think the interaction of having to having unlocked difficult glyphs in order to get a glyph of the same tier is a bit redundant, and also locks most of the usecases behind tier 3 already.

[sullen orchid]

the number of tomes changes as new patrons submit them

[thick ocean]

Currently there is 56
According to ars.guide

[rustic leaf]

Isn’t the goal to find a purpose for all the tomes being accrued as well as a way to integrate codex “naturally”?

I’m not sure I understand the redundancy. Do majority of tomes contain T3 glyphs? Can you elaborate a bit, so I can brainstorm better?

[covert topaz]

It's two fold, firstly I'm not sure if I care about the problem of people not keeping a copy of the tomes. If people want to use a spell provided on the tome, they'll keep it, otherwise it'll sit in their storage doing nothing at all.

Secondly, if people have to craft the equivalent spell in the tome prior to harvesting/repurposing it, then they're already going to be crafting the glyphs that people use in spells, which means the codexes will only provide more obscure glyphs, which makes people care less about the mechanic

[rustic leaf]

So a method that can be accomplished with a near empty spell book would be ideal?

sorry didnt mean to ping

[covert topaz]

Maybe? The initial idea behind the codex entries was to help people get into Ars, which the T1 does. I'd like to have the T2 and T3 make peoples lives easier and exist as a mechanic people want to interact with

[rustic leaf]

Have you considered a new structure with a custom block that converts tomes to codexes at a certain rate?

[covert topaz]

I did mentioned previously a trade block to go inside the Arcane Library that could convert tomes to codexes

[covert topaz]

Here

[runic iris]

A copy of Fireball on a lectern is actually a decent trap. Clicking on it instead of right clicking to pick up will detonate with the force of an End Crystal - but with a LOT more fire.

I lost a quarter of the Drygmy Den on the Ars patreon server to that very thing. All the jars. All the tames, huge hole in the grounds and structure.

Mind you, the Den is not a small building.

[thick ocean]

Iiiiinteresting

[abstract spruce]

i havent played ars nouveau in a while and does the advanced dominion wand work or still crash the game

[jaunty valve]

Works, afaik

[covert topaz]

It should work but may be a bit janky, I have an update to push out that overhauls it

[rigid hornet]

is there a way to make reliquaries not a one time use thing

[jaunty valve]

Not with just additions but ATM for example contains a mod with an enchantment that makes things truly umbreakable

Forgot what it's called though

[covert topaz]

@sullen orchid @unkempt pike can I get opinions on the UX? It feels janky to me but idk how to make it better

[sullen orchid]

I'm not quite sure what's happening?

[covert topaz]

Saving and loading settings from the turret

Like the old Instrumentum scroll

It also supports Starbuncles so far

[sullen orchid]

hmm. I'll give it some thought, my brain isn't working all that well today

[unkempt pike]

One thing I have is it should probably say "loaded from slot 2"? At least I think that's what's happening there? My brain is also a bit froggy tho today lol, first day back at work since the 18th

[covert topaz]

That's true, there's 10 different slots

[unkempt pike]

honestly it looks pretty good, my brain would personally prefer copy/paste to save/load but that's just a preference thing... other things i can think of like somehow automatically switching to load mode after saving would just end up causing more problems than it solves i think

[covert topaz]

I'm good with copy/paste, I'm also thinking of removing save/load and having just clear, if it's empty it copies, if it's full it pastes

[unkempt pike]

would that mean no slots?

oh

clear to clear the slot

which puts it in copy mode

what you have now has some protection for accidentally overwriting a turret(or more importantly a starbuncle tied to a ton of inventories) by forgetting to clear

how feasible would an undo button be lol

[covert topaz]

Not something I particularly want to make haha

Hmm, I wonder if the protection is better or worse for UX

[unkempt pike]

my brain is picturing me all excited to copy paste this starbuncle that is bound to 40 inventories and accidentally clearing it instead haha

yeah

it's hard for me to know for sure from a video and not actually messing with it

[covert topaz]

Hmm, maybe I'll show the selected slot in the action bar while the item is held

[sullen orchid]

I wonder if the model on the hotbar could change depending on what mode it's in as a visual indicator? Like an icon in a corner

[thick ocean]

When did you implement ghosts? I'm getting messages that dont exist

[covert topaz]

Someone asked a question and figured it out, then deleted it

[spice bramble]

Any idea why my ritual of Arcane Permenance isn't chunk loading the chunk its in? It has source and I am on 1.20.1

[thick ocean]

Isn't there a config that must be set?

[spice bramble]

The config is to get it in the first place

Which it is enabled

[thick ocean]

Thought it was more configurable

[spice bramble]

Yeah the config is for the default recipe

[thick ocean]

Interesting

[spice bramble]

Ok so the loader seems to be working for my furnace but not my lava hose-

[agile prism]

I NEED HELP how does the source spawner work

[thick ocean]

You need a contained mob

Via ritual of containment

[leaden flint]

searching "jar of miner's wisdom" pulls up the 2nd page of the ender source jar

[slow inlet]

the Ritual of Arcane Permanance doesn't seem to have a recipe for me or a note in the book? I'm on 21.1

[covert topaz]

You need to enable it in the config

[slow inlet]

ah gotcha, will do that then

[covert topaz]

Next update I'll enable it by default

[slow inlet]

hmm I'm looking in the server config file and it seems to be enable?

oh there it is, found it

[covert topaz]

It's in the common config file

Because it has to load before recipes

[frank elk]

Hi! Is it a known issue that the Charm charging recipe "crashes" with JEI? I've noticed it happening with and without more add-ons. Whenever I try to pull up the recipe it verbatim states that the recipe has crashed in the JEI screen.

[covert topaz]

No, but it could be a conflict with the recipe type being moved into saucelib now

[frank elk]

It said to check the client logs and I did try to get them into a pastebin but it was super dense and I think it actually repeated itself a while so I wasn't sure what all to copy. Should I send it?

[covert topaz]

Yeah just upload the file to mclo.gs

[hot lance]

@frank elk

:notepad_spiral: Log Sharing

Upload your log file to mclo.gs so that people can help easier, not everyone is on their PC all the time and having a easily formatted searchable link is much easier for debugging.

Where can I find my logs?

Go to your instance or .minecraft folder and upload the logs/latest.log file

How about crash reports?

Crash reports can be found in your instance or .minecraft folder under the crash-reports sub-folder. This is only made when a crash is registered, so if it doesn't exist that's fine.

Noticed a problem?

Please raise an issue with @covert topaz

[frank elk]

https://mclo.gs/p1VQSj6

Fresh instance, fresh world. Only Ars + Additions + dependencies.

Screenshot for good measure.

Should note that the recipe itself does still work- I can still recharge charms. It's just JEI that seems broken.

[covert topaz]

Oh yeah, i remember now that Alex told me about this breaking

[nimble mortar]

What is the range on the ritual of arcane permanence from? Can't find it in the book or discord search or ranges megathread

Also as a bug report, the page for arcane permanence in the guidebook is completely empty

[slow inlet]

by default it looks like it's only 1 Chunk

[nimble mortar]

Gotcha, where did you find the information?