Ars Énergistique

[distant lichen]

You also literally pointed out why the comparison isn't completely fair as smaller cells are relatively better than the larger one because of this

[rain stirrup]

listen

[distant lichen]

Wait no are they

[rain stirrup]

i have a server-breaking memory leak to fix

[distant lichen]

Yes ok 10 jars we'll see what happens and goodbye

[rain stirrup]

because i've already been an utter spastic trying to rewrite a complex feature in my existing add-on

and it's blowing up in my face

i'm sorry i got angry at you but i'm REALLY not having a good day at the moment

[distant lichen]

Ok

[rain stirrup]

has that spell projectile event been backported to 1.19 yet?

[distant lichen]

I haven't been coding much in the past few days so I haven't done it yet

Doubt anyone else did so Id say no

[rain stirrup]

i see

was hoping to get spell P2P done eventually before moving onto a 1.20 release

[marble crag]

just curious is spell P2P still planned for 1.19.2?

[rain stirrup]

if the event gets backported, yes

[rain stirrup]

new minor bit of integration between ME network storage and the Scribe's Table

[rain stirrup]

just now had to fix those items being extracted all at once and flying out at the same time, whoops

[thorn heath]

I'm testing this mod, I like it very much and I'm already making my first automations with it. It would be great to nerf source disks because i think they are too op

It's hard for me to fill a 256k drive even with mob farm working

[rain stirrup]

there was a discussion about that here prior which got a bit heated just because it was at an inopportune time for me

i plan on bringing the 1k down to 10 source jars' worth since that seemed to be a decent compromise for both myself and @distant lichen

if i had it my way i'd simply have the 1k hold one jar's worth such that the 256k still holds 256 jars and i can do away with the notion of "bytes" for the cell type and round off the figure overall

[rain stirrup]

le Spell P2P has arrived

[dire barn]

Hi, noob here - using ATM9 0.1.11 and for the life of me I cannot get the source acceptor to put anything into my source storage cells. I even tried a Super Storage Cell. The P2P tunnel works just fine.

EDIT: Ok so I can use Import buses, but whats the point of the acceptor then? Am I just having weird issues or?

[rain stirrup]

you're entirely misunderstanding what the source acceptor does: the acceptor is an alternative to the energy acceptor in order to power ME networks with source

the hint should be in the fact that it even takes an an energy acceptor to craft

[dire barn]

Thanks for response. Makes sense. I have experienced a lot of mods with the most illogical crafting recipes so I don't think all too much about most of them anymore

[rain stirrup]

i think i'll just rename it to Source Converter at this point

[dire barn]

Honestly I just had no idea it could be used as energy in that way. Figured it was just a means of transport (which was all I was trying to achieve)

[rain stirrup]

it's listed as a feature on the CurseForge page but i have to remind myself that most people might not even read that due to the whole premise of modpacks

[dire barn]

Ah yeah I see. The GitHub page also just says WIP - perhaps you could use the same text both places? Also, while hard to decipher - none of the pictures on CurseForge described the ME Drive functionality as none of them used an importer

[dire barn]

If you added a tooltip with your previous description it would be plenty, and as you said the name would be consistent (also somewhere on curseforge or alike add a conversion rate)

[quiet salmon]

Hi. Don't know if it's just me, but on 1.19.2, Ars Energistique 1.0.0. requires ars nouveau 3.17.12, which is not available on curseforge

[rain stirrup]

it used to be available but i don't know what the fuck curseforge meant by suddenly removing those versions

(paging @dark yoke)

for now just get the latest version off of Modrinth rather than CurseForge

[unkempt veldt]

hey so i dont know if anyone said anything but i am using Ars Énergistique in a new pack i plan to release but as soon as i put a Certus Quartz block down the Amethyis Golem tried to Convert it and my game CTD

[unkempt veldt]

i can also provide a crash Log if need be

[rain stirrup]

report it on GitHub and i'll get to it

though i'm currently unable to reproduce any crash with the amethyst golem

[unkempt veldt]

im also more then happy to share my in dev version of my pack

[silent dust]

I am so lost on converting source to ae.
I have the converter, I have the me source storage cell, I have the me drive. It's all hooked up together with the right cables. I am feeding into it with a source relay. What am I doing wrong?

[fierce lagoon]

Converter is to convert source to ae energy, to import into drive use the import bus

[silent dust]

Ugh. Thank you. I've been stuck on this for forever.

[silent dust]

It still says device offline

[fierce lagoon]

if it says that, then you either have no power in the ae system or you didn't hook cables in the right way

if you don't have much of Ae knowledge, could also be related to channels

without smart cables, a newby would never know about them

[silent dust]

Huh. Okay. Smart cables it is then

[fierce lagoon]

basically, each cable line can hold up to tot channel

with the smart cable you see when you reached the cap

can't remember if you must have a controller to handle bigger systems or there's a way to keep everything connected over the base limit

[silent dust]

Yeah, it's looking like it's just not taking source into the system

It's all going as it should until the acceptor

My final relay leading to the acceptor says it's sending to one location and taking from one location. Which is what it should read.

But the ME Source Acceptor says device offline

[rain stirrup]

the Source Acceptor doesn't even require a channel, or at least it shouldn't

but yes, you're not supposed to use that for importing source into storage

for that, just have some source cells hooked up and use an import bus against a source jar

the acceptor is used in the same way as AE2's Energy Acceptor, but for source instead of FE

[silent dust]

Am I not supposed to hook up source jars to a source relay and beam that directly to the ME Source Acceptor?

[rain stirrup]

you are, but only if you intend on powering your network with source

[silent dust]

That is my plan

[rain stirrup]

then that should be fine

i thought you were still only trying to store it

[silent dust]

But like I said, there's a disconnect between my last source relay, which reads as it should, and my acceptor, which says no power

[rain stirrup]

it shouldn't require any power or channel

[fierce lagoon]

a screen of the setup might help troubleshooting

[rain stirrup]

do you by any chance have any energy cells on your network?

[silent dust]

Yes, I have a single 1k source cell in my me drive

[rain stirrup]

no, energy cells

as in, to store AE energy

[silent dust]

That did it

Thank you

I'm not familiar with ae so the various bits and bobs aren't entirely known to me

I figured it was something I was missing, though

[rain stirrup]

it's all good

the way that the acceptor works is that it reports the network's power storage as being full earlier so as not to waste any source

[silent dust]

Ho boy

[rain stirrup]

only beyond a certain capacity will the acceptor be able to take in any source

[silent dust]

That thing really eats source, wow

[rain stirrup]

though in general having energy cells is good practice since it increases the available buffer for the network at any given moment

[silent dust]

Yeah, that makes sense. I thought the source cell in my me drive was the battery I needed for it.

Now to figure out how to automate my coal > volcanic source link feed, because my mycelial/agro sourceberry farm is nooooot cutting it

Might I ask, then, what exactly a source storage cell DOES do?

I've clearly misunderstood its function.

I thought it stored source, a la a battery

[rain stirrup]

it does store source but that's entirely separate from conversion to AE energy

that's primarily for use in automation and crafting

[silent dust]

So it's basically a better source jar?

[rain stirrup]

yes, you can think of it that way

it's a larger jar that slots into an ME chest or drive

if you're not wholly familiar with AE2 itself i'd suggest giving the ingame guide a try if you're on a version with it (1.19+)

https://guide.appliedenergistics.org

[silent dust]

Probably a good idea. Figured it'd be easier to branch into starting from a mod I'm already familiar with, but I guess I was wrong.

[rain stirrup]

AE2 and Ars are worlds apart lol

[silent dust]

Hell of a feat bridging the two then

[autumn lake]

So, im sitting here messing with the ME Source converter, does anyone know how to make it work? im providing power with fluix cables and the device is online, but when I try to add in source flow it breaks the entire relay line
Ive also tried using the source acceptor, powered. both on and off the converter, to no avail

[rain stirrup]

the source converter just acts as an energy acceptor but for source instead of FE/RF

if you're looking to store source then simply using an import bus against a source jar and having some source cells attached to your system will be enough

you can also use source jar items like buckets to deposit source to the network and remove it from

shit, they left

[marble aspen]

is there a guide on using this?

[rain stirrup]

sorry for the really late reply; there are a couple of pages added to the Worn Notebook briefly explaining a couple of the main features of the mod so it would be worth starting there

eventually i hope to expand on that however and instead use more fully fleshed-out pages for AE2's ingame guide

[marble aspen]

ah cheers

[cobalt quiver]

am I going completely crazy or is there not anyway to send source into the system?

[sly knot]

just a normal import bus ?

[cobalt quiver]

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thanks...

[cobalt quiver]

what about exporting?

pretty sure this is actually a smart question

because the export bus requires something in its filter

[distant lichen]

Same as with something like water; you use a source jar to set the filter

I forget if it's left or right click

But the other one sets the jar item which isn't what you want obv

[cobalt quiver]

yeah

okey

that makes sense

lets see if it works

it does

nice

[strange cliff]

Is there a way to connect ME Drives to the storage lectern?

[cobalt quiver]

That

Would be very interesting

But would also require adding support for fluids

Maybe

[dark yoke]

Me drives only support their own export systems, you won’t be able to connect to them directly afaik

[sly knot]

you could attach a ME Interface to the network and then attach interface to lectern . that would work ye ?

[cobalt quiver]

Nope

[rain stirrup]

i can see eventually about doing something with the storage lectern but i can't make too many promises at the moment

[distant lichen]

lol my friend just maxed out a source cell

[rain stirrup]

kino

i've added ArsEng integration to MEGA Cells but i'm yet to actually release it

[timid roost]

lets hope they will add it one day 😀

[pulsar torrent]

Anyone else run into a problem where the source relays reset every time you try to send it somewhere?

[static prawn]

does this require any messing with configuring the interface? :o

[rain stirrup]

no config needed, no

[static prawn]

it needs configuring if i wanted it to input/output source tho right

ae2 breaks my brain even the simplest setups confuse me

[cobalt quiver]

AE2 breaks my brain in a good way

[shut grotto]

what is the best way to use the source within the ME?

is it possible to do it with the quantum entangloporter?

[shut grotto]

So close

[gaunt rapids]

is this how im supposed to power Applied Energistics 2 doohickeys with source? I don't know anything about AE2, I'm just there because Valhelsia 6 seems to have wired it up so I need to use it to get Warp Scrolls

Doesn't seem to work and I don't know enough about science to figure out why

[cobalt quiver]

That seems like it should work

[gaunt rapids]

Oooh, I made it work--apparently I needed an AE2 Energy Cell, I put on next to the acceptor, between it and the other devics, and it filled up with Sourced-sourced energy

That had me stumped for a while until I found some youtube video where someone had a weird cube next to their acceptor and I scrolled through the blocks to figure out what it was :v

[static prawn]

whats the fastest way to import/export source through an me system?

is it thru buses or interfaces?

ive seen interfaces used here but idk

[snow flicker]

is there something wrong with this?

it isn't exporting the source into the drive

import and export both have source

[cobalt quiver]

You just need to connect the cable.

You don't need the export bus on the drive

You only need to connect the cable

[snow flicker]

this still doesn't work

still doesn't work

nothin works

[cobalt quiver]

Oh

Well that's your problem

You're trying to get the source into the drive

So you need the import to be on the jar

Apologies for not see that earlier

[rain stirrup]

Been a long while since I paid the attention that this add-on has needed, but I've come back to it to bring a feature that should have really been in the add-on from the start.

Here's a functional sneak peek of the upcoming ME Source Jar. Model coming later.

[cobalt quiver]

Nice

[sly knot]

feature request: Starbuncle wheel like ars creo that generates AE instead of SU

it would be great when doing magic only run and not have to invest in power gen

[fierce lagoon]

There's source to SU iirc

[sly knot]

I think you mean AE

but starby wheel will be more fun than simply converting

[fierce lagoon]

Idk how I managed to swap them after double checking

[rain stirrup]

for that i can consider adding specific integration with Ars Creo rather than reinventing the wheel as it were

[static prawn]

how exactly does me source jar work? i might be dumb but i don’t really get the description 😭

[cobalt quiver]

U attach it 2 the network w/ AE cables

It has capacity equal to the amount of source cells in the network

The jar itself may or may not be counted in terms of the amount of capacity

[rain stirrup]

it's a regular source jar except it acts as a proxy for the source contained in your ME network in cells et al

[static prawn]

ahhh okay okay ty

basically just make inputting/outputting source a lot easier?

[solemn summit]

what kind of cable do i need to transfer source?

also do i need a special jar?

nvm got it working c:

[crimson inlet]

yo sorry if this was asked before but is it possible to use source stored in a network into a source converter connected to a network without having to use a relay to feed that source from an ME jar to the converter?

[cobalt quiver]

So what you're saying is, is it possible to use an ME source jar in a source converter.

Given I have no idea what you mean by source converter, I can't help you

[crimson inlet]

the thing from ars energistique that converts source into AE

[rain matrix]

i wonder if a Digital scribes table has ever been suggested , it would be like the vannila scribes table BUT instead of looking for nearby inventories it asks the ae2 network its connected to for those items.

[rain stirrup]

late response, but the regular Scribe's Table has already been made to also pull from networks via nearby ME interfaces

try it and see

[crystal merlin]

only 400 bytes??

[oblique salmon]

Not sure if it has been asked before. Is an 1.21 version being worked on ?

[rain stirrup]

1 byte = 100 source

[rain stirrup]

was being worked on initially but i have to get around to contributing some stuff upstream to Ars before i can make it happen

i rely quite heavily on block/blockentity capabilities which Ars still doesn't actually have and i've basically had to hack in until now

[oblique salmon]

No worries, but looking forward to an update

[hushed moon]

Weil there ever be this mod for Refined Storage?

[rain stirrup]

if and when RS2 releases and the API for that can actually accommodate for anything that isn't an item or fluid

for RS1, no

[hushed moon]

I see, fair enough

If i wanted to do it myself, how difficult you'd say it would be for me to port AÉ for RS1?

(0 modding experience, but know C#)

[rain stirrup]

there's a good reason i brought up RS2 rather than RS1 and the hopes of an API that would be able to accommodate it

it literally isn't possible to port this to RS1 because RS1 still only works strictly with items and fluids and doesn't have any sort of generalisation like AE2 allowing it to handle other shit

or at least, not in a way that's remotely feasible or accessible without loads and loads of ugly hacks into RS itself

[hushed moon]

Ah i see. Impractical af then

Too bad, lets hope for Rs2 improvements

But theoretically, if i just wanted to be able to store Source as a fluid and nothing else from this mod, would it be possible to JUST port this to RS1?

[hushed moon]

Or is it part of the issue you mentioned before?

[rain stirrup]

source isn't a fluid or anything like that to begin with, it's a whole separate resource

if you are trying to store it as a fluid from some other add-on that lets you turn it into that then there's no reason to even have something like this for RS to begin with. everything already handles fluids natively

so again, i really have no idea what you expect to accomplish here

[hushed moon]

I was under the impression that without this mod I'd be unable to store source in RS system even as a fluid, thus asking if a port would be possible

[rain stirrup]

there exists another AN add-on, i forget which, which lets you turn source into a fluid and sidesteps the need for any of this

the whole reason this add-on works the way it does for AE2 is because it treats source as its own thing entirely and not just as a fluid, while RS can only handle items or fluids

[hushed moon]

Ye its starbunclemania

But i guess its still more complicated to put in source and out of it

Many more steps involved

[slim meteor]

Ok I need help

I'm working with Ars Energistics but I have no idea what to do

I'm seeing the mana already on my system

but how can I trasnfer this mana to others machines?

[merry gull]

ME Source Jar

[slim meteor]

ME Source Converter, what this block does?

[merry gull]

I think it produces ME from Source

[slim meteor]

Oh, interesting

[split glade]

Is there any way to get level emitters to respond to the amount of source in the system or nah?

[inland sorrel]

why is my ME Source jar not getting filled by the Relay splitter or any relay

[merry gull]

Do you have a source cell in your ME system?

[inland sorrel]

yeah

i have tried source jar/ME source jar to import bus to cable to ME source converter block to ME drive and its not taking it in

[inland sorrel]

does ars energ not power the ME stuff? or do i need to prepower the ME drive first before it takes in source

[merry gull]

Some things I've noticed:

• ME Source Jar can't be used to set filters on Export Bus
• Ender Source Jar can't receive Source from Export Bus
• ME Source Jar isn't working for Enchanting Apparatus

[fierce lagoon]

Source cap issue?

[merry gull]

Potentially, at least for the Enchanting Apparatus thing

I've noticed multiple reports of things not being able to draw source properly recently. Either from the provider side (ME Source Jar) or from the consumer side (Rituals, Enchanting Apparatus, etc.)

[fierce lagoon]

Was the source manager upgraded to work with only the cap yet?

and not just the class inheritance

[merry gull]

I don't think so, @frigid mantle has a PR for some https://github.com/baileyholl/Ars-Nouveau/pull/1555

[frigid mantle]

its ready fwiw

just that i dont think addon devs would appreciate everything breaking in the middle of 1.21

[merry gull]

Has to be a way to do more incremental adoption

[fierce lagoon]

what breaks exactly?

to understand which family of addons breaks

[frigid mantle]

just about everything that touches source

its honestly going to be pretty easy to fix but i still dont imagine all addon devs will be happy to do it

i have no problems doing it for controle

unification doesnt need any changes

[rain stirrup]

i have no issue with it if it needs to be done

[rain stirrup]

having just looked at the PR, it still doesn't address the problem of all cap lookups being passed a null Direction, meaning that it'll never pick up on blocks that provide the cap only from a specific side (i.e. AE2 cable parts)

[frigid mantle]

would you rather we iterate over all directions?

[rain stirrup]

if possible, yes, and that can be done alongside the existing null lookups just fine

you want to have both in to be able to check for both sided and omnidirectional source tiles, i had a helper method for this in the 1.20.1 branch of AÉ that could be used to grab the nearest face of a block relative to another being searched from

i can't remember where exactly i iterated over all dirs in 1.20 AÉ but i certainly don't think it was everywhere where the cap was needed

[frigid mantle]

i think itd probably be better to just do that in general

ars eng might not be the only mod that wants to use that

but im also wondering if theres anything stopping ars eng from exposing the same cap on null

[rain stirrup]

the fact that flat cable parts even exist to begin with

by design, a complete cable bus block is only meant to expose capabilities on the side that actually has a part with that capability

on one side of a cable you could have, say, an item P2P tunnel which has the IItemHandler cap, and on the opposite side you can have a fluid P2P tunnel to provide IFluidHandler instead

they both provide two different caps on different sides, but they are different sides of the same block

this isn't relevant for devices that are already a full block themselves, ArsEng obviously has no problem with that since the relevant cap is provided with a null dir to imply it's not direction-sensitive

mamy other tech mods might also choose to have machines accepting only items from one side and fluids from another side and it's the exact same premise then

[frigid mantle]

i think thatd still end up being a problem if you just had 2 source caps on a cable though

iteration just makes the order weird

[rain stirrup]

that depends on where you'd want to iterate to begin with as opposed to just looking at a specific side only as applicable

which was also accounted for in 1.20

[rain stirrup]

actually, i think now and even before it is possible to pick up the null-sided capability even if you specify a direction, because some capability providers are registered such that they don't even care about what context might get passed in

so i think as long as you just perform any lookups not with null, but with the nearest face to the block needing to look it up, it should be fine

[frigid mantle]

not seeing it anywhere tbh

theres https://github.com/62832/ArsEnergistique/blob/474c793b649e625794e3f14657d9022d0c379bd3/src/main/java/gripe/_90/arseng/mixin/ScribesTileMixin.java#L68 but thats for ME cap

and theres no nearest check there

not sure id even want to take the perf hit calculating that though

https://github.com/Vonr/Ars-Nouveau/commit/d9e28763c520aaaf9be72fcd03cdf392e3ce6e96

[rain stirrup]

you're looking at the master branch for 1.21, not 1.20

i'm on about these
https://github.com/62832/ArsEnergistique/blob/1.20/src/main/java/gripe/_90/arseng/block/entity/IAdvancedSourceTile.java#L13
https://github.com/62832/ArsEnergistique/blob/1.20/src/main/java/gripe/_90/arseng/mixin/SourceUtilMixin.java#L31

[frigid mantle]

ah im gonna blame githubs search

[rain stirrup]

yeah GH only indexes the default branch for whatever godforsaken reason and doesn't allow searching within other branches

as far as i can gather anyway the nearest face calculation really isn't that expensive and if you are still worried about it you could see about making use of NF's BlockCapabilityCache in that case

Technici4n on both the NF and AE2 discords would be able to tell you in greater detail since he's the one who designed the whole capability rework and the aforementioned cache to begin with

[glad oxide]

how the me source jar works?

[merry gull]

It doesn't work like a normal source jar due to issues in Ars, you need to either link it with a relay to a normal jar, or you can just use an export bus onto a normal jar

[glad oxide]

i not make this i just conected a cabe on he and auto fill

with the source in sistem

[merry gull]

Yeah just use an export bus instead

[glad oxide]

Without Export bus it is faster

[merry gull]

But you can't use it directly, you also need a source relay

So it ends up slower

Put in acceleration cards

[glad oxide]

I can use

Just use the me source cell

[merry gull]

No, it can't be used by enchanting apparatus or turrets

[glad oxide]

He can

I used

[merry gull]

On 1.21?

[glad oxide]

ATM 9 sky 1.20.1

[merry gull]

Huh, its doesn't work on 1.21, so why are you asking how it works?

[glad oxide]

When I asked I still didn't know how it worked I tested it

[merry gull]

Ah okay

[glad oxide]

i maked one video of he working

why it to download

and not just see?

[rain stirrup]

if you're on 1.20.1 the ME Source Jar just works like any other source jar but uses all the source stored in your ME system (cells etc.) to provide to other Ars stuff

i realise this reply was a day or two late but hopefully that's still fine

[placid ferry]

Can anyone tell me how to filter source for an export bus? Usually just drag & drop but don't see source in JEI. Got around this by just using a mod export bus for now :P

[merry gull]

Hover over it with a source jar and right click

[distant crest]

Is there any way to add a Certus golem? Or some kind of augment to amethyst golems to let them harvest Certus?

[merry gull]

They already can

[distant crest]

Really? I’m not sure how I missed that!

[unique plover]

Out of curiosity what does the Source converter do? and how is it effectively used?

[merry gull]

When provided with source, it powers your ME network

[unique plover]

Can you show me an example of how its set up? I cant really find any example online and Ive been trial and erroring the hell out of this for the last 3 days. XD

[rain stirrup]

exactly as the Energy Acceptor is set up, but using Source via relays instead of FE

[patent hearth]

Would it be possible to make the source acceptor not need a relay? Just have it pull from the nearest jar instead?

[split glade]

Amethyst golems being able to automate certus quartz is god's gift to mankind

[tulip jay]

There seems to be a bug that is not allowing the plane energy acceptor (the one that is not full block) to accept the source

[shrewd cradle]

Just to add onto the above, it seems there's a similar issue with flat interfaces. Can't get starbuncles to put items into it

[merry gull]

You need to use the dominion wand on strict mode @shrewd cradle @tulip jay

[shrewd cradle]

Yeah I tried that. Didn't work with the source converter

[fierce lagoon]

strict mode needs you to click the right face, just to be clear

[shrewd cradle]

Yeah there's only one face to click anyway c:

[merry gull]

May not work on the acceptor, but check the interface

[frigid mantle]

i think the part versions are just broken

use the fullblock ones instead

[rain stirrup]

this still on Ars's end, are you guys checking for directional ISourceCaps as well yet?

[runic pewter]

why does this supply source and the system working?? (under the source jar is a source acceptor)

apparently only full block works

the half block is completely bugged

[runic pewter]

:o

[steep cloak]

Hello. I have little problem. If anyone can help me, I would be very grateful. I made an ARS + AE2 setup.

14 Imbument Chambers to generate Source Gem. Each of them has an Import/Export Bus (from Advanced AE) connected to the back and a Lapis import connected. I divided the setup into two, and connected AE2 to the network - so each of the setups takes 7 out of 8 channels.

Everything was fine until I put the Source Jar nearby. Both connected to the network and standalone.

The problem is that when the Source Jar is nearby, the Source Gems are not sucked into the network. The same is with essences when the Source Jar is nearby.

Is this a known problem? Or did I make some logical error? I play on ATM10

[shrewd cradle]

Hello! So I'm aware of the whole deal with the ME Source jar not being recognised a source jar because of some coding mishap, and that it can't easily be changed because of how it affects other addons etc.

So my suggestion was to possibly change it from "ME Source Jar" to something else so that it's not so misleading, since it no longer functions like a source jar and isn't recognised as a source jar. I tend to explain its functions like a Source Interface, so perhaps ME Source Interface could work. I understand of course that it means changing the asset model and all that, so it's just a suggestion.

[rain matrix]

had an idea for a simple feature request related to Ae2/Ars:

was playing around with budding Entroized fluix in a differnt ae2 addon , so i tried to use an Amethyst golem to automate it , but it ignores the full grown cluster that the budding block produces . turns out its missing the block tag the other budding clusters the golem works on does .

Simply put my feature request is having this mod add the block tag #ars_nouveau:golem/cluster to the block extendedae:entro_cluster IF the mod extendedae is loaded , so the Amethyst golem also works on it by default with this mod installed just like budding certus does
(without needing to bother a pack dev or server host to change tags)

[hearty lark]

Can you convert source to energy and store it in the network a la flux connectors?

[covert bluff]

How exactly do I get source from an ME source jar into another jar for use in actual recipes / rituals

[merry gull]

Use an exporter on the source jar

[covert bluff]

Yeah cheers just figured it out :P

[gaunt rapids]

What's the plan for ME Source Jars acting as Source Jars? We don't want them to implement ISourceTile?

I installed IntelliJ for the first time and I am full of hubris

[frigid mantle]

its not possible to implement it properly in 1.21 due to breaking other things

we want to move to using the source capability in insert future major version

[gaunt rapids]

I assume no work to get Ars Nouveau itself working with newer minecrafts than 1.21.1 has been done yet right? So this is very far future?

[gaunt rapids]

And, like, when you say not possible to implement properly, how improper would it be to do some sort of interim hack

my first attempt just froze my game for five seconds so I am getting a vague idea but I am sure there are more perils

[merry gull]

Correct

[gaunt rapids]

But there's no appetite to ship a workaround until then?

[merry gull]

I don't fully recall what the issue was that prevented them working. I think it's the full adoption of the source capability, which would be a big breaking change.

[gaunt rapids]

gonna see how far I get with my janky mixin

[gaunt rapids]

hm, unrelated question, you can't import-bus source from an interface that's stocking it, only a real source jar?

[merry gull]

You probably can from a full interface, but the sided ones don't support the capability

[hidden osprey]

I've been trying to understand how to use the source acceptor to turn source into AE2 energy for the past hour now and I still don't get it, I'm having the same issue like the one in this video

[shrewd cradle]

Use the full block version

[hidden osprey]

still gives me the same issue with the full block :/

[hidden osprey]

like idk if im just really stupid or just doing this completely wrong lmao

[tiny harness]

I noticed that this mod hasn't been updated for a while. Do you have any update plans?

[proven stag]

Scribe table not pulling from me interface

[merry gull]

Is the interface online and on the main network? Can you show the interface with the Network Analyzer? What's the glyph? What's the remaining items? Do you have those items in your network?

[proven stag]

I didn't see this message mb
But all it needed to fix was to be NOT touching it

[warped jacinth]

How do I link an ME storage setup to my storage lectern, so that I can access the ME storage via my storage lectern? Like... what do I actually link to the storage lectern?

Do I link individual ME Drives?

[merry gull]

You can't

[warped jacinth]

Oh 🙁

I don't have a quantum wireless setup yet for AE2, so I wanted to keep using my warp index

[merry gull]

AE2 storage doesn't work like conventional chests. Ars Storage Lecterns only support conventional chests

Unfortunately one of the trade-offs you have to make

[warped jacinth]

I thought that's one of the things this mod added. I'm mistaken