💥alliance-clash・res-war

[bleak notch]

It gets you points for Alliance Clash. Same as it does in Nukaland

[severe violet]

LCc has not respected the agreements

[pearl wadi]

Doesn’t matter when you are there it won’t let you play, I joined 4 1/2 days ago and it wouldn’t let me in

I was there well before sign up and it didn’t let me in

[quartz lotus]

Did you leave at all?

[pearl wadi]

Nope

Even told my alliance I won’t be back until after the clash

I wasn’t the only one either

[quartz lotus]

Hmmm. Open a ticket that won't get answered for a month

[pearl wadi]

I knew I couldn’t make it to my alliance clash this week so I joined my farms well in advance

I’ve lodged a ticket but they won’t do anything about it

Missed every event in my home alliance all week, that’s heaps of rewards

[quartz lotus]

I'll see if the same happens to me next week

[pearl wadi]

There were farms that joined after I did and they could play but not me

I didn’t care if we lost I just wanted some rearward ya know,

[quartz lotus]

Yeah that sucks man

[frozen delta]

Anyone else have issues with res war map on iPhone 12? Everything else work fine

[tulip valve]

Hey Kolzn - our alliance just finished ours and I’m on an iPhone 12pro and it was all ok - can you please report to CS

[tulip valve]

The ore mines give so little points tney don't make a difference, I think tney just may there so someone doesn't end up wjth 0 points, I think mines onky give like 100 points

Well I join event to fight not gather so I don't even notice those mines

[quartz lotus]

Yeeesssssssss

[tulip valve]

[quartz lotus]

I really like res and clash because that is where I can get those really high might hits as long as they aren't reinforced or led by an absolute brick wall of an account

[reef spruce]

I don’t even bother. If they were DIAMOND mines however…

[harsh quarry]

Lol, I think they were put there so the 18-25 could get points without having to be super strong. Just my two cents.

[quartz lotus]

Probably

[tulip valve]

Maybe little of both lol

[muted dune]

I think it's actually random where you land on the map.

[quartz lotus]

Left is top left corner
Middle is bottom left corner
Right is top right corner

Although this probably got answered if you made it this time

[frigid canopy]

It was, but thank you

[brittle sorrel]

Hiii

Anyone knows the last timeline/slot in res war?

[brittle sorrel]

In GMT hour

[steep vale]

2100 - 2200

[brittle sorrel]

Thank you so much 🤗😘🌹

[tulip valve]

McLovin_Peabody

Левый - левый угол.
Середина - это левый угол.
Правильно лучший правый угол.

Хотя это, вероятно, ответили, если ты сделал это на этот раз.

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[olive vapor]

How are alliances matched up? i kind a assume it is based on alliance might but is there something more to it

[bleak notch]

It’s not based on alliance might at all. It‘s only based on Corp affinity

[olive vapor]

Well like the say about assuming, what is corp affinity and is that something i can see

[bleak notch]

Here and in the event leaderboard, as well as on your alliance Page (at least the league, when not the exact Corp affinity number)

[olive vapor]

Ok, that is right, so it is only based off that, i had heard that people strip down there gear etc to lower the might, but that really does not do anything. because when you put all back on and win you go up in grade. is that the same for Alliance clash, and is there any over lap since they are similar events

[bleak notch]

It is the same and winning one of them gains you Corp affinity which matters for matchups for both of them

[olive vapor]

ok thanks for the information and clarification much appreciated

[frigid kindle]

if you get disconnected from the internet during Res War, will you be able to go back in?

[blazing zinc]

So our Res matching since Clash started has been all over the place. But now for the second week in a row we have opponents that aren’t even close to our might.

I am my alliances largest might at 600m our opponents don’t even have a 150m. Gonna be boring as f—-. We have never had this problem until recently

[pliant remnant]

Yeah. Typically your HQ doesn't move unless a game event forces it. If you are logged out during valiant change, it kicks you to a random spot. You would stay in res war until it was over or you left.

[frigid kindle]

ok, thanks

[little fog]

@stuck elk
Are you guys really playing with your updates? How is it that we get an Alliance rival from our state? No teams from other states? How so? In addition, the opponent has players with T11, we do not have them ... Your balance is simply unique ... The more updates, the more inequality. This is sad.

[runic monolith]

We also were up against an alliance from our own state before it happens from time to time

[stuck elk]

Have you delivered your problem to CS for a check? Do this issue happen at before?

[rancid lotus]

Dragon😈

[eager crane]

Hello everyone 😊,
I would like to know for the tank I know that we can know in advance where we appear on the map of the tank but I know more how, if someone can help me 😊 thank you

[quartz lotus]

If your alliance is listed first you will be bottom left. If your alliance is listed 2nd you will be top right

[quartz lotus]

For example
ABC vs XYZ
ABC will be in the bottom left
XYZ will be in the top right

[dapper dune]

The matches aren't based on might or what players are in what alliance. It Affinity and time slot. You were matched with a similar score team. There are so many factors on why the team have the score they have. Its a system that matches based on past performances.

[reef spruce]

This happens sometimes. It’s not that big of a deal. Why are you freaking out about it?

[eager crane]

@quartz lotus Thank you very much your explanation is perfect 😊 😊

[carmine nest]

Happens often. In state Reservoir War matchups are the best fun. Get to fight your neighbours and friends without loss of troops or rss. Can’t wait for my next one!

[quartz lotus]

You're welcome

[torn horizon]

Who has the rw map? Thx

Cannot find in the Pins

[reef spruce]

I know for a fact it has been posted, but not in this channel. Go figure lmao

All I could find was the AC map

[torn horizon]

Thx!

[tulip valve]

Der Wasser wagen fährt nur in der oberen Hälfte der Karte was ist das denn für ein Schei....

[void wyvern]

Why are two alliances paired with a difference of 12 billion power?

[rugged lotus]

because they are in the same bracket, its silly but thats how it works

[odd trout]

It's how the game makes money, lol

But no stress, we win sometime and lose sometime

[unreal quest]

Please cancel Alliance Clash. Just leave Reservoir war forever. Thank you. When we say confusing, we are complaining about Alliance Clash mechanics

Not that both event are confusing and we want u to change to Alliance Clash only. It is Alliance Clash that is confusing. Why u gotta mess up Res War? Thank you

[dapper dune]

The only thing different between alliance clash and res war is there is more people to have fun with. 90%of res war is the weaker team making a deal for 2 towers or not showing up. Alliance is a actually fun and team fight more, the extra tiles add more too

[prime ocean]

Having a 3rd opponent makes it more fun, RW has become repetitive, can’t understand why people are confused 😂

[cyan ruin]

Let us have both each week

[odd agate]

Opponents' selection is really bad. 2 clashes in a row, our alliance are getting opponents with alliance's might that is 1.5 times stronger...

[stone torrent]

Alliance Clash is just new....we need to keep doing it to learn how to play it better.

[reef spruce]

I literally hate Alliance Clash and I would skip it every other week if I could. We tried to once and then someone accidentally signed us up.

[hoary wharf]

I would keep them both in the same rotation, it is good to see at least some newish or at least some kind of update to the events.

[bronze rain]

Keep Rez war get rid of alliance clash
The polls are clear

[wooden urchin]

just cancel the alliance clash
that's not interesting at all

[quartz lotus]

We haven't had a good match up to see if I like alliance clash or not

[reef spruce]

I’d rather they just make an update of some kind to Res war rather than have two different events that are essentially the same. It’s a waste of resources, development-wise.

[uneven kayak]

Keep both it’s not that difficult to know which is which. Keep reswars for people that prefer it and alliance clash for people that prefer that. I like both. But I’d hate to be subjected to just one now that I’ve had the chance to experience both just because some don’t know which event is upcoming.

[unreal quest]

Alliance Clash is only fun for big or strong alliance. It aint any different with Reservoir war. Only Reservoir war has more fighting chance for smaller alliance. Those big alliance will see how "fun" it is cause they are winning the few rounds. But not for small alliance.

Reservoir war is challenging as it is. I rather Alliance Clash be replaced with an alliance war with new mechanics and match up. Rather than a 3 alliance Res War. Pointless really

[quartz lotus]

That is why I said that we haven't had a good match up to see which one I like better

[unreal quest]

Exactly @quartz lotus

[quartz lotus]

Our odds were extraordinarily not in our favor on the first one. We had the least might but still ended up getting 2nd

But just barely

[pale shuttle]

I'm for Reswar only. Clash is just adding another level of complication to Reswar. 2 of the alliances can band together to defeat the 3rd. Doing a truce in clash is overly complicated.

[unreal quest]

I think the dev has to up their game in the match up system. Low participation or people negotiate for 2 towers clearly is because people are fed up with losing but wanted points.

[quartz lotus]

The best truce in clash is doom and 2 towers

That is the easiest one to figure out

[unreal quest]

U cant blame people for not participating just because your system dont work. Many detest Nukaland and dont participate before, when others can attack your base and raid your resources. After they change the system and raiding is no longer available, they got more participants

Improve the game not add an extra alliance to "spice" things up.

[quartz lotus]

But now you have people bitc...... I mean complaining because they upgraded to hq30 and "got scammed" or whatever

[unreal quest]

Yeah. And they change it back

Which is good, they listen to the players feedback

[quartz lotus]

Yes they have brought to back to balance

[unreal quest]

I hope they drop Alliance Clash. In worse case scenario, it would be one alliance preying on 2 alliance.

[quartz lotus]

I want a decent match up to see if I like it or not

[unreal quest]

Too many unfair match up for Res War for me to patiently observe Alliance Clash slowly unfold🤣

[dark ivy]

please keep alliance clash but have a fair matchmaking. Overall might of alliances and even the highest hq or tier troop too.

Luckily we could make deals with both alliances and each had the doom and 2towers which were safe from hits. The rest were free for all (ffa)

The last time, both alliances teamed up and started hitting the ffa towers we had taken over, each taking turns to hit. Luckily we had enough players online to reinf after each of their hits and we won too.

[modern finch]

Can anyone confirm that you must be in an Alliance at least 72 hours to participate in ResWar or Alliance Clash?

[dark ivy]

Yes there is a 72hr alliance presence needed to participate

[dark ivy]

Yes

[modern finch]

@dark ivy Thank you!!

[reef spruce]

You need to be in before reset when sign ups happen. It’s not necessarily 72 hours if your participation time frame is on Thursday night.

So the day sign ups open, you should already be in the alliance

[jaunty bridge]

Here is a suggestion. Have a sign up that alternates time slots between Clash and War. If you have a time for the War at 1 hour after the turn over which for me would be 20:00 then you would have a 21:00 option for Clash, followed by a 22:00 for War. The more time options you have the better it is for the Alliances. Let each alliance choose what they prefer. Each week both would run.

[dapper dune]

It's confirmed

[vagrant mesa]

The matchups in res war was bonkers last week or was it just my luck

[tropic pumice]

Ok just found the right channel... 🤦

Question... Could alliance clash be a once a month thing?? Also, can there be an event where people can sign up individually and clash against others like that format but on a smaller map scale?
My bad if this is in the wrong channel

[quartz lotus]

So nuka

[tropic pumice]

🤦‍♀️ yeahh i need coffee...

Like Nuka but be aligned with 2 or 3 opponents. Not a whole range of them...

[jolly forge]

I like the whole 1 month idea or even doing away with clash all together not sure why they want to get rid of res war it’s a much better event than clash

[green dune]

If you want you can go to the poll room and vote...The voting so far is heavily in favor of only RW

[tropic pumice]

I've voted for RW. Its definitely less confusing for my alliance tbh...

[green dune]

If the matching were better it might be fun but when the other 2 alliance are double you Alliance's might with several big whales... It's a waste of time. 0 occupation points mean crappy rewards.

[ashen pasture]

My alliance has been the smallest in might each time we’ve done clash and we’ve won both times. Sometimes it’s more about strategy than might.

[unreal quest]

@ashen pasture

Of course it is. We understand strategy is crucial. But i am not speaking just on my personal opinion. An international alliance with players from different time zone vs an all japanese alliance for example can also change the game. With 1 vs 1 at least there is a chance. With 3 alliance together... well... u know how it goes.

[ashen pasture]

I thought it was an interesting twist to break up the monotony of the same things constantly. But perhaps an entirely new event not just a tweak to an existing one. I think we are all craving some new and original content.

[unreal quest]

Yes. That was what a lot of players would prefer

A new mechanics. Not the same game but with extra alliance in it. There are more players negotiating truce on certain buildings for the sake of points instead of playing for real and feel the excitement or looking forward to it

[radiant yacht]

That's a big crap in my opinion! My alliance is always matched to giant ones, and we will never be able to even get points! Devs are ruining Reservoir War! It's not worth going to fight since we all know we will lose anyway!

And they are thinking of substituting RW for AC. I am out!

I don't usually complain, but there's no point to it!

[vast igloo]

how come an R4 can sign up for Reservoir war, but not for Alliance Clash? why is it more restricted?

by the way, AC is not really nice. I like reservoir war more than AC.

[pliant remnant]

Sorry, maybe I'm still confused on it. 72 hours before that "friday" or 72 hours before sign ups end?

[dapper dune]

You need to be in the alliance before reset and the sign up is available

[pliant remnant]

Thanks

[noble vale]

I agree. A different twist is good. My suggestion is to match 2 smaller alliance might to add up against the 1 big alliance. So either way, you can strategize to see if you can beat the big alliance or take on 2 alliances at the same time.

[strong lagoon]

So question if you want to rotate clash and res wars between two teams . Do the teams need to join before sign up closes today ?

@vital pivot

[vital pivot]

👀

[fallow dune]

It seems pretty obvious by the poll that the majority do NOT like Clash. I hope they remove it and just up the number of nanotubes we can get in RW myself.

[latent falcon]

Is the same thing plus 3 different reward tiers and more buildings. If you can nap a couple buildings your set.

[tulip valve]

I like clash 😭😭

[dapper dune]

You had to be in the alliance before sign up period starts. Joining now is too late

[main breach]

Dang
I thought you had to be in by the end of registration, not before the time options even appeared

[vital pivot]

Thank you

[summer nexus]

Dlaczego mamy tak wysokie stan jako przeciwnika. Ich sojusz jest 13 razy bardziej silny

[keen verge]

This seems wrong…
My alliance (TTZ) and our two opponents, one of which is a teeny tiny alliance. We want to face people our own size please.

[frank sapphire]

Keep Res War. Eliminate Alliance Clash.

[reef spruce]

It’s by corp affinity and time slot, not size, sadly

[tulip valve]

We feel your pain, similar scenario

[blazing zinc]

18b might alliance with a 1.8b player against my 8b might alliance and another 7b might alliance. What a joke! I am embarrassed for these developers if they think this is solid programming

[junior coral]

Yes. Alliance clash has horrible matching. Much worse than res wars.

[reef spruce]

For once we got evenly matched in one of my alliances. Absolutely shocked.

[keen oar]

The MOST annoying thing of all with clash is only alliance officers and can set the time, why would it be different for one to the other? 🤦

Clash has potential, but it's too soon and that's why most prefer Res war

The matching is better and also u can plan deals easier so u can have fun without jizzing all your Speedups away

I'm fine with alternating I dunno what the issue is

[odd trout]

The big players show off and it's kind of their land, lol. They easily destroy everything 😆 we are watchers 😆

[loud venture]

We have been matched up with 2 alliances both under a billion might each, we are 14 bill might, way to go game!!! 🤪 🤪

[reef spruce]

For me, it’s too similar to res war to be worth my time. I don’t want to be doing the same event. I want something different that I can do with my alliance. It’s a waste of my time to alternate between two nearly identical events.

And I prefer res war

[keen oar]

Yeah I mean Res war every 2 weeks might be nice if there was a good other event

[bleak scroll]

The way they match alliances up sucks, we ain't even going to show up, our highest player is almost 300 mil, going up against 1.3 mil players, why bother

[main breach]

I like the idea for Alliance Clash, but so far the match ups have been horrific. It's usually been 1 monster alliance with a billion(ish) player and two alliances combined couldn't take on that one player 😠😤🤷🏻‍♂️

[strong lagoon]

We need to change the whole 72 hour thing

[shut pewter]

Can you participate in AC if you have superweapons? Can they be taken in the event?

[carmine nest]

Yes. No.

[shut pewter]

100% sure? I don't have a lot going on for me but terrified to unshield.

@exotic pumice @verbal plaza @devout roost @crystal jackal ?

[carmine nest]

A superweapon cannot be taken from someone not in your state.

[carmine nest]

Wouldn’t have answered if I wasn’t sure.

[shut pewter]

Ah! That makes 100% sense. I'm sorry. I was 95% sure on you're response... I am just always double checking everything (even my oven 3x before I leave the house, even if I haven't cooked in a week)

I'm just overly cautious like that. Thank you so much, and I am sorry if it sounded doubtful 😊

[vagrant mesa]

So i have 2 accs in 2 different states (144 and 323) and this alliance clash is absolutely madballs. My acc in 144 got matched with an alliance who is a lot smaller than we are, and my acc in 323 got matched with alliances whose strongest are a lot stronger than what we have. It makes me wonder what the matchmaking system is made of and for sure it isn't alliance total might

Does anyone have a clue or clash is just... rubbish?

[tardy elbow]

Does someone have a map of Clash?

[tardy basin]

Matchmaking sucks again…. I think it’s the alliances who disrobe (remove items and such) to bring down their might that messes with it? We have one kind of kind of equal might and with one three times higher might. So we are all Set to loose… no point buying speed ups or even trying to win.

[glass holly]

So far love Aliance Clash, more building to occupy. Don't have to do nap because anyway there's 3 aliance that can fight. More strategy to do. We are just waiting to finaly be legend to have good matchup.

[radiant sonnet]

But NAPs are so fun. They're cozy and great for your health.

[frigid kindle]

especially ours 🤣

[tulip valve]

Exactly. It's fun

[whole basin]

This whole dropping my 3 day shield when someone else was in 1st for clash?😤

Why if I participate is it dropping my 3 day shield?

5k diamonds I mean whatever but this nuka glitch it has is amazeballs

😑

[reef spruce]

It’s your affinity corp and sign up time

[reef spruce]

Because you’re defending and fighting in a battle. You don’t get to keep your shield. Doesn’t matter if you’re not first in a building.

[whole basin]

😑

Thank you for your response 🙂

[reef spruce]

No problem

[little fog]

who can explain to me how the logistics base works?

[glass holly]

It vie you a number of port if you occupy it during certain period of time.

[little fog]

I understand that, but how do I use the teleport. When I try to teleport, my teleports are spent, regardless of how many the base has already accumulated

[brave solar]

Hey Dark 🥰

[carmine nest]

It doesn’t give you free teleports. Occupying the logistics base increases the maximum number of relocates you can use (from your bag/diamonds). In lower brackets, you can use as many as you want. In higher brackets, it becomes restricted. Occupying the logisics base increases the cap.

[little fog]

Thx

[reef spruce]

I hate this map for AC. Things are too close together. Attacked the wrong building because I tried to get to military base 2

And didn’t notice. Just tapping fast

[tough panther]

If anyone goes up against [~B~] in state 96 don’t expect them to comply with any diplomatic agreements. FYI.

They agreed to them and then violated them when it suited them. Thanks to the third team for knocking them around.

[fierce lark]

What does nuka ore do in clash?

[lament lotus]

This event sucks

[tulip valve]

Don’t make deals with DBL of S77 they do not honor them

[tribal dragon]

So the score continues to tick up even after the timer is over? We just left clash winning by 100, it said you won and everything on the pop up. Get out of event and it says we lost by 100

[dark ivy]

Helps getting some points as at times, the top 2 high might alliances dont give any chance to the lowest might one to have towers. they can at least get the minimum personal points this way

[steep vale]

Clash was awesome again tonight!

[odd trout]

2 vs 1, right? 🤣🤣🤣

[north summit]

1v1v1

Depends on negotiations beyond that..

[craggy dagger]

Why do the water trucks favor only the top of the map? Literally 5 water trucks in a row went to the top of the map.

[steep vale]

Lol no. Although 1 of the other alliances did ask for that. 🙄
Guess where they finished 😂

[dapper dune]

They're random. Next round they can all go to the bottom

[craggy dagger]

I have watched the trucks in every alliance clash since it started. At the beginning it is going back and forth between top and bottom. Then the last 30 minutes or so it is all top every single one. All different paths, but nothing below the hq is hit by any trucks.

[fervent oar]

Looking for a PST alliance that uses voice communication for at least Resevoir War

[reef spruce]

#✅alliances-seeking-players

[fervent oar]

I posted there too, but since this is also resevoir war, I posted here.

[reef spruce]

You shouldn’t double post. It can be considered spam. And it doesn’t belong in here.

[fervent oar]

I'll post whatever I want in here if it involves Resevoir War

[reef spruce]

Looking for an alliance does not belong in this channel. I can get a mod in here and they can tell you the same thing. I was being polite. Don’t be rude.

[fervent oar]

This IS my polite text. I can step it up a notch if you keep replying.

[tulip valve]

@fervent oar for starters looking for new alliance or recruiting one doesn't belong here even if it involves Res war.
Secondly #📚sanctuary-rules read rules and don't be rude to other players.

[tulip valve]

Anyone else on here that does prediction of RW/AC endorsement? Entering all the raw data is such a hassle, if anyone has better way at prediction, would you mind sharing?

This is what we do, but it take a lot of time

[quartz lotus]

I just do a rough over look and I can typically get it right

[tulip valve]

75 XLT, 14 MSJ are all easy picks, but the payouts are horrible. We're always hunting for the max 6000 diamond payouts.

[tulip valve]

If you have an easy trick to nail the high payout ones, I would love to know 😆

RW is easy, AC has proven to be much tougher so far to get the high payout ones right...

[tulip valve]

Seeing all the past Clashes, for me it gives impression there is always 2 picks of equal opponents and then the 3rd one goes for suckers that have no chance to win. As we have ranked 1st-2nd-1st so far, guess next time is our time to be suckers

[reef spruce]

It depends. I’m in 2 alliances in the same state. In one alliance we got screwed the first time, hard. Like as an alliance we barely got any points. The second time we also got a bit screwed but ended in 2nd. The third time we were more evenly matched and got first.

But my other alliance we have been pretty evenly matched all 3 times thus far. We have had the same results as you.

[quartz lotus]

We got screwed because they had just immigrated to that state and had to start over so the were new but weren't at the same time

[reef spruce]

Yee I remember and they couldn’t be nice

[quartz lotus]

Yeaaahhhhhh

[tulip valve]

Can I unsubscribe all members from RW?

[carmine nest]

Why would you want to?

[tulip valve]

I mean only our alliance members 😂

[carmine nest]

Again, why???

[reef spruce]

If you don’t want to participate…

[carmine nest]

Then don’t participate. But why prevent the rest of your alliance from participating?

[reef spruce]

If the entire alliance doesn’t want to participate? lol you seem confused

We signed up once for clash and didn’t want to do it. Like as an alliance. We only did it because we didn’t want to forfeit.

[carmine nest]

Then Just forfeit. Or dont sign up in the first place. Not like you really lose anything by being a no show.

[reef spruce]

Sigh. They were likely asking because they probably didn’t want to sign up and someone did accidentally. The same thing happened to us. And yes, you do lose something. You go down a level.

[vital pecan]

I don’t understand how an 9,7 billion might alliance can get paired with a 15 billion might one.

[reef spruce]

It’s not based on might. It’s based on time frame and level only.

[vital pecan]

I know that but at least in the old system, you didn’t get screwed over every single Res War

[reef spruce]

There’s no old system. That’s the way it’s always been.

[vital pecan]

Actually, we were always fairly matched in Res War before they introduced this grade system.

[dapper dune]

Your teams are the same rank.

For whatever reason: winning, loosing, time slot, loosing members, gaining members, people not showing up for a week...

[gaunt scroll]

But it was this way in alliances clash as well. Before the new system we had equitable matchups. Our team line up has not altered

[dapper dune]

Affinity score and time slot are the only factors the game looks at for matches. Might and who participated last time don't matter

[blazing zinc]

And another horror show of a matchup for my alliance again. We are matched up with a farm alliance of our former state 240. Even the main alliance couldn’t compete with us but this is just plan stupid

Our opponents has one alliance over 100m

I cannot believe how they have ruined my favourite event

[dapper dune]

Read above.

[blazing zinc]

A team with no players over 100m might should not be anywhere near Elite level

There is something seriously wrong with the new matching. Not once in the previous matching have I seen anything as continuously stupid as this.

[dapper dune]

There isnt new matching. Its still Affinity score and time slot.

[blazing zinc]

I have been playing this game for almost a year. Something significant has changed in the matching since clash has launched. The matching is now seriously flawed

[dapper dune]

Ive been playing for over a year. They matching is still the same. Only difference is the amount of affinity from the 3 way matches

[tulip valve]

@harsh quarry yay we are paired for res war 😀

[dapper dune]

We just had 4 easy matches in a row, now we play s57 HOP, they are stronger than us. Thats how it goes.

[blazing zinc]

I will respectfully disagree. The res wars matching is showing much larger gaps between opponents. I have no problem with losing. But I don’t think we have a single competitive match in Res since clash has launched. Something has changed. You can deny it all you want but it has

[tulip valve]

Is that with bamor?

[dapper dune]

Yup

[tulip valve]

Ahh he's cool unless he wants kill count.

[tulip valve]

I see, I just started playing yesterday, there's so much to learn huh.

[devout cloud]

See you on the battlefield 😬

[dapper dune]

If I'm still up lol

[devout cloud]

Haha, might be an early night being thanksgiving and all for USA

[dapper dune]

Yeah, it feel on a bad day for a lot of us

[tulip valve]

The thing is that new points system jacked it up a little. I may be wrong with numbers for the winner, but I think it was +500 for winner, -100 for 2nd, -200 for 3rd. Which means you need to lose 3 wars in row to go down in rank.
As I said, I could be wrong with numbers for winning, but the general idea is same - if you won once, it will take more than 1 war to go down. So very well possible that out of sudden you end in shark tank. Like in Nuka - you could have been the strongest HQ29, taking 1st place all time, then upgrade to HQ30 and ... (you know what happens 😄 )
It will take some time until things settle down and alliances find their right ranges.

[tulip valve]

https://tenor.com/view/penguin-working-hat-suitcase-cute-gif-14667480

[polar pilot]

The problem is many alliances still have fake ranks, especially farms, because before the change big players jumped in for easy wins, that inflated many alliances ranks, matching them against bigger opponents now. It should normalize in time.

[blazing zinc]

That’s a good point, I had forgotten about that mess. The funny thing is, my alliance could easily handle the main alliance Nevermind their lousy farm. I really do hope this sorts itself out soon because I used to love res wars, now I hate it.

[tulip valve]

Same reason in our case, accidentally addressed us all from our alliance to the event but we have not played it ever before. And most of us don't find time to join it.

[simple bough]

マッチングの前に装備やチップを外してミスマッチを狙うの対策してもらえませんか？

[harsh quarry]

Cool :). OSO or BOM?

[dapper dune]

Removing might before a match does not work. If you see someone doing that just laugh at them.

[tulip valve]

What's that?

[tulip valve]

Lol sorry I'm a noob I don't know what those are.

[harsh quarry]

No problem. My alliances 🙂

[tulip valve]

Ahh the one with duchess BOM!

[odd trout]

Since Reservoir War starts signs up till it's ended, if we leave alliance, we can't play it, although you were in alliance for the first day your alliance signed up.

It's sucks, I left alliance yesterday for a moment, now I can't play 😋 ok, fine, lol

[quartz lotus]

Yes that is sadly the new rule

[tulip sail]

what the matching criteria?
Is it simply matching with alliances with similar combat power?

[quartz lotus]

Corp Affinity

That is it

Nothing else

[small flare]

Choosen timeframe. So if your affinity is 8000 and in your timeframe only alliances below 4000k would sign up you will be matched with one of them...

[quartz lotus]

That isn't very likely but a possibility

[tulip valve]

If you get matched with this alliance from 189, do not trust them to honor any deal. The alliance has no integrity. Both Leader and Militarist agreed to a Doom Fortress + 2 towers NAP. Militarist broke it 25 minutes in because they were losing. Screenshot (Nov 26, 2021 1:58:32 PM)

The Militarist who agreed to and then broke NAP.

[prime shadow]

We matched with this alliance. They broke the agreement in the last part of the event and the boss blacklisted us. Don’t trust them.

[dapper dune]

Ew, dirty. I hate when people pull that. Heavy ego's right there

[tulip valve]

Makes it fun to go ham on them when they break it though.

[dapper dune]

That's true. if they did it cause they were losing, I'm sure the follow up smashing their fort was fun

[tulip valve]

The militarist's excuse was that they lack self control and can't stop once they get a taste of battle, but we were about 20,000 points ahead and the water trucks were headed to our safe buildings when the militarist attacked all 3 of them, so... They still lost. However, I would not trust them or their "parent" alliance to honor any agreements in Res/AC and I'd be very careful with any WK agreements with 189 since everyone in their alliance seemed perfectly cool with them breaking the NAP.

[harsh quarry]

Lol. Did you have fun?

[dapper dune]

I'll definitely keep that in mind, I'll make the deal and break it in 2 mins. Cause I got a taste for battle

[tulip valve]

Lol I don't mind but my alliance was bored no action. Sorry I just went out just last 30secs

[harsh quarry]

I was at work,so only able to reinforce most of the time. there’s more action in clash since MOST of the buildings are not divisible by 3 so you have to fight for, and keep, what you want for the most part.

[odd trout]

He didn't care bc he realized he is strong 😝

[tulip valve]

I'm not sure what you are getting at. There are plenty of stronger players who have integrity. Being "strong" does not justify being a liar and a cheat.

[odd trout]

I got that experience, lol. So you shouldn't trust your enemy in RW, and WK sometime

[odd trout]

State 7 ?

[nova turret]

@tulip valve

[coarse drum]

Y’all ready for it 😂😂😂

So I had a question about clash. Is it normal for one alliance to be the size of the other two combined?

And then wonder why everyone voted against it 😂😂

@tulip valve can we write a letter 😂😂

[dapper dune]

That happens in Res War too. I explained it nearly 700xs in the channel.

[tulip valve]

I think it’s going to take time to normalize since everyone use to jump alliance for RW but the rate this game is going it’s highly doubtful 🤣

[dapper dune]

I love the 72 hour rule. So much complaining went away. Now if there was a way to convince people might dropping does nothing...

[coarse drum]

I know. I was just pointing out that’s why so many people voted against getting rid of rez war, I wish the developers cared more about the mod reports and balancing the matchups then they did about creating more game modes lol.

[dapper dune]

Res war cant be might balanced. I'd like to see clash stay as its on event, not ranked, solo sign ups and might balanced teams

Its hard to balance might alliance vs alliance. But if team were solo sign ups, might matching would be way easier

[tulip valve]

Yeah might is a tricky thing…cause one person can have all the might or it can be a balanced alliance. Also might isn’t everything and we all know this.

[coarse drum]

True my alliance is also an outlier as we aren’t a full alliance but have bigger might players. Its a wonky system I would just love tough hard fought matches each week. Instead of what looks like a curb stomp

[quartz lotus]

We got a 2 billion might vs a 7 billion and an almost 8 billion

I am in the 7 billion might alliance and it should be a possibly hard fought win but easy if their shooter doesn't show up.

The 2 billion might alliance is literally a training Alliance so they are probably going to do absolutely nothing

[lament pebble]

We are paired with 1b , 10b and we are 13b 😏😏 .. the game is broken . How could they match us with new alliance … (baby)

[tulip valve]

That’s just jacked

[distant linden]

Is Alliance Clash just some kind of joke to the Devs?

[distant linden]

This is US.

This is Opponents. They have 500 600 mil guys. Our top player isn’t even 400 mil and only have 2 200 mil players. Wtf kind of Bullshit matchmaking is this?

[dapper dune]

Read it. It's based on Afinity Score and time chosen. Nothing to do with might. It's based on your alliances past performance.

[distant linden]

But shouldn’t it be based on Might? Since that would determine the fairness of it?

[dapper dune]

Nope. Its a ladder system to determine who the top alliances are. You raise and fall. Obe week your the strongest, next youre not.

[uneven kayak]

Sometimes alliances take over “shells” when a bigger team leaves state. Possible this happened

Alliance clash has easily become my favorite event. We’ve been matched against some huge players. But that’s part of the fun. You and your team learn to tactic the hell out of it. Win some you lose some. Part of games in general.

[dapper dune]

Past Affinity score, big player probably left. Or it was where big players went before the 72 hour rule

[fickle abyss]

We haven't had anybody over 250 mil might since before alliance clash was a thing and we still get matched up with alliances that are over twice our might so i don't understand this affinity scoring

[reef spruce]

Your affinity is your level. So when you lose, you go down in points. When you win, you go up. In res war you go up or down an entire level based on win or lose. In clash, it’s just points, so you could remain at the same affinity, go up to the next one, or go down to the previous one.

So Elite II, for example, is an affinity level. You are matched with other alliances that are also in Elite II.

[fickle abyss]

So if we take second we stay where we are at but how did we get such a high affinity level

[reef spruce]

Depends on how close you are to the top end of your particular level

[reef spruce]

From winning lol

[fickle abyss]

We haven't won a single alliance clash since it started

[quartz lotus]

Lose then win. You said win twice

[reef spruce]

But have you won Res War?

[fickle abyss]

We might have

[reef spruce]

RW and Clash are connected

It’s why I don’t like Clash

They’re the same event just one is more annoying and the map is a pain in the ass because you tap the wrong place.

[quartz lotus]

Clash is just over crowded res war and so.eone isn't responding to my messages

[reef spruce]

Someone got distracted waiting for your reply as you can seeeee

[fickle abyss]

So in other words we are just screwed for clash all the time

[reef spruce]

No. You could be more evenly matched at some point. We didn’t get very evenly matched the first 2 or 3 times.

It just depends who is in your level

[fickle abyss]

We always take the last time slot too

[reef spruce]

Time doesn’t really matter. Like yeah it decides the pool of who your opponents will be but it’s still your level. So until you lose, you won’t go down.

[tulip valve]

Yeah some alliances loose purposely for 2 rounds just to get a decent opponent….

[latent falcon]

They the same thing 😂

[quartz lotus]

I gotta Fight 3 35s in Alliance clash.

[reef spruce]

WE*

[quartz lotus]

Yes right the Alliance

[reef spruce]

Yes. The alliance. We work together.

[quartz lotus]

Yes. Team work. I forget about that

[reef spruce]

I GUESS I JUST TWIDDLE MY THUMBS

[quartz lotus]

You look great doing it.
And I know you don't. You always send me reinforcements when I take a tower or do the occasional rally.

[waxen dew]

Someone wanna explain how the hell we got matched against these guys?!? Literally 4x our might. In Rookie rank

Sometimes the matchmaking system seems sooooo busted.

[uneven kayak]

They started an alliance with a group they’ve been with?

Idk how these mods do it lmao

[torpid seal]

Does anyone know what affinity level the logistics bases unlock?

[hollow sedge]

Are there only two Dooms in Clash?

[cyan bone]

Does anyone have the alliance clash map please seem to have lost mine

[tulip valve]

Let's do it

Whom we writing

[coarse drum]

Lmao whomever you want. Dear PNS your matchmaking sucks ass. And not the fun way 😂😂

[hollow sedge]

Can someone also please pin it to this channel? 🙏🏽

[tulip valve]

I think they know it lol. Look how they matchmaking arena lmfao

[coarse drum]

https://tenor.com/view/facts-blackladysketchshow-black-lady-sketch-gif-23519296

[lone vault]

This alliance does not honor deals. If you set a nap with them, they will not follow it.

[crude hazel]

🤣🤣🤣 I could have told you that

[lone vault]

What a joke. They go after us and lie about it like they are following it. But nope. Just a bunch of liars in that alliance. 😬

[coarse drum]

To be fair their board do be saying they about winning.

[ruby sand]

What a damn joke this pairing system is

[reef spruce]

It’s not based on might. It’s affinity only. People keep saying it, people keep complaining.

[ruby sand]

Because its a massive joke.

[tulip valve]

Yoo did you saw OTF clash match up lol

[coarse drum]

I didn't lol I hope its a good one

[tulip valve]

I think I won't go there lol

[reef spruce]

It’s really not when you think about it. There is a natural progression and loss. Sometimes you win. Sometimes you lose. When you come up against someone too strong, you get knocked down. The next time, you might be the one doing the knocking down.

And when people move states, they are automatically rookies unless they inherit an old alliance shell. So you kinda just have to accept it. Wish your affinity traveled with you, but it doesn’t because alliances can’t immigrate as a group that the game recognizes.

[tulip valve]

I couldn't say that better than you did. Thaaaaanks

[verbal agate]

Bring back Res War, and do away with Alliance-Clash. Jmo

[reef spruce]

We still have Res. They alternate.

[verbal agate]

Dump Alliance Clash all together

[uneven kayak]

Booooooo. Alliance clash is legit

[tulip valve]

@opaque bramble hello, we are matched for res war.

[fiery lance]

I am Nana Deb from 182 ,,Alliance clash is a joke,my alliance was in it and the water tanker went to only one of the 3 alliances. Not once not twice but three times back to back. That is not fair to the alliances. It needs to be fixed !!

[tulip valve]

[glass holly]

Hey love aliance Clash. Don't move it.

[craggy dagger]

I get that someone has to be in the alliance during sign-up to take part. But why are players that were in the alliance for all of sign up but had to drop tags after the match was made not allowed to participate. We had an issue that a player in my alliance dropped tags for like 10 minutes about 5 hours before our alliance clash time and when he tried to join us it said he was not in the alliance for sign up but he was.

If it is supposed to be that you need to be in the alliance before sign up and stay until the event the rules needs to say that.

[tulip valve]

It has been that way since the upgrade

We are almost at 12b might.
Matched against 3 and 6b...

[tulip valve]

To avoid cheating - somebody joins just during signup, then goes back to his own alliance and returns just for war.
Now you have to sit it through for 3 days

[craggy dagger]

It only says they have to be in for sign up, not the entire time.

The issue is that it is not made clear that it is the entire 3 days.

[tulip valve]

I know. It's basically the same as Speaker rules

[cyan bone]

Thank you

[frosty shard]

#5 states you can't quit after sign up

[upper nova]

I have been in the alliance from sign up until now and cannot join

[bleak notch]

Have you been in the alliance when signup period started or only when an R4/5 signed the alliance up?

[tulip valve]

Must be after.... I test it before😂

[quartz lotus]

On purpose or you find out the hard way?

[dapper dune]

Arent you ineligible to play today?

[tulip valve]

😝 😝

[dapper dune]

You are all the same rank

[tulip valve]

Call me and wake me up Senpai🤘

[dapper dune]

Going to wake you and kitty up at 5am so y'all know what WK is like for me

[craggy dagger]

It didn’t when I read it a few weeks ago

[frosty shard]

Awe ok, I am glad they added it in then to expand! I am sorry it wasn't before

[tulip valve]

Spicy

Also, for those who are worried about mismatches - just play. Keep it fun. The group I’m with was horribly outnumbered but was still fun.

Hey all, please don't trust this alliance if you were matching with them, because they broke the nap and didn't kept their word, just never trust

[slender wave]

so a voting was held by developers asking to decide whether to keep reservoir war or alliance clash and eliminate the other one and people voted to keep the reservoir war

so what happened?
why do we still have alliance clash in game?

🤔

[uneven kayak]

The vote was to ONLY have alliance clash. People voted no. No vote to get rid of clash. I for one this clash is better. But voted to keep res wars in rotation. Not sure why so many don’t like it. It’s way more fun way more battles.

[tulip valve]

I like the battles personally… granted I do name changes and laugh about it. Get my occupation points, kill all troops. 🤷🏼‍♀️

[slender wave]

no there were options in the vote
and most people voted to keep the reservoir war

like you said , so many don't like it

🤷🏻‍♂️

voting was like A reservoir only B alliance clash only C both
something like that far as i recall but i am not 100% sure since it was long ago

worst thing about alliance clash is that the reservoir map is refined for 2 sides

putting some more towers in random places doesn't make the map a 3 way map at all

so uneven
even the water truck movement are now so uneven and map is totally unbalanced

if we really had a 3 way map that would have been another thing but we don't

is like 3 players playing chess on a standard chess board

🤷🏻‍♂️

[uneven kayak]

Well I stand tall that alliance clash was an improvement res wars was boring if one team dominated the other. Match was over as soon as it started with clash you have way more options.

Way more battles and a chance to take the win back if you plan right

[dapper dune]

Cause they were collecting opinions for the future and never said they would do anything let alone change it right away 🤷

[slender wave]

if only you knew how much that doesn't make sense 😂 but ok

i am 100% sure if people would have voted to alliance clash they would have removed reservoir war the next day

but ok

sort of , feeding alliance clash to us so we get used to what is horrible and get along with it , apparently

[upper nova]

I was in the alliance when the sign up period started

[dapper dune]

Sorry your comprehension level is sub par. Work the words out slowly and you will figure it out.

[slender wave]

your comprehension is non existence then

i don't remember letting you speak to me like that

so show respect

[dapper dune]

I showed you the same respect you showed me

[slender wave]

if you got nothing to say about the uneven map of the alliance clash map that i explained there's no need to reply with offensive words

if you got nothing to say you can keep silence

quite very simple

no need to comment about me

[dapper dune]

If you cant handle Clash, dont join

[slender wave]

when you do you are making it personal

which exactly shows the sub par comprehension

alles klar

[slender wave]

i don't need your opinion keep it to yourself, thanks 😊

[dapper dune]

Not an opinion

[slender wave]

right just spam

👍🏻

i don't have time to waste on kids , have a nice day

[dapper dune]

Have a safe Clash in 2 weeks

[dapper dune]

If you were in at start and never left, send me you state and in-game name. I'll see if they can find me out why

[dapper dune]

It's hard for people to make deals with 2 teams

[uneven kayak]

I don’t do deals lol. More fun that way. Our team started working better together that way too. Better teamwork closer appreciation of each other’s skill set. In the end we got better at it as a whole

[dapper dune]

If we're the strongest, we offer 3 spots for the first 30mins so everyone gets points then ffa the last 25.

[uneven kayak]

We are usually the underdogs. Only 8 members can join typically. And only reasonable might lvls. We are usually the ones being offered the deals we’d rather take the loss trying. Doesn’t always end well lmao

[dapper dune]

Why waste speed ups and tp's for what is a $5 box in rewards difference

[uneven kayak]

The fun

[dapper dune]

Most teams dont show up or just run like their troops actually die. Not a fun event usually

[uneven kayak]

True….in res wars. Clash I’ve had nothing but good experiences. Makes for more action and teamwork. Kinda why I like it so much. Deals tend to make the event suck. Ever since we decided to get rid of deals we all look forward to it.

[dapper dune]

Clash is way better. More people fight, the tiles add an extra element.

[uneven kayak]

Agreed

[tulip valve]

Stupid question. You are HQ18+, right?

[upper nova]

Hi thanks for your help but I had sent mail to the CS earlier. The event is over so no biggie I was just responding to the person that replied to me.

[upper nova]

I’m hq 31

[tulip valve]

Agreed! Had a better battle today then previous res wars and clashes

[fiery lance]

The clash is not that great. Not when it is one sided like it was. There was a glitch in it when my alliance played and I am pretty sure the other alliance isn’t very happy with what happened either. It showed favoritism to one team and one team only. The water tanker is supposed to go to all 3 alliances not just one or did y’all fixed that way? It is not fair or right for the water tanker to go to just one alliance.

[reef spruce]

It doesn’t go to alliances. It goes to buildings. If you split up buildings as part of NAP and it only went to certain ones…that’s the issue of the NAP

But it’s not recognizing alliances. That’s why most people will do a short time of safe holding for certain buildings and then do a free for all, because the trucks MAY favor one side

And if you have buildings stay safe the whole time, you’re screwed.

[dapper dune]

Having it random helps force people to fight and not just sit and collect points

[shadow wigeon]

If you want better nap, you can split the entire map out instead of alliance focusing on the region near doom fortress. The point of nap is mainly for everyone to get the max tier points and reduce expenditure on securing structures. Clash is less one sided than res though a lot is still dependent on your highest might players.

[rain totem]

Question: If you're in the alliance before the sign up period can you still leave and come back or do you have to be in there the whole time before the war starts?

[carmine nest]

You have to stay the whole time from Before the sign up period starts, to after your timeslot.

[rain totem]

👍 ok thanks

[gusty pivot]

When can we watch reservoir wars live?

Hop vs rod cant watch 😫

[muted sundial]

This means you have to be in the alliance at reset or when the alliance signs up? @nova turret

[nova turret]

Like he said... You need to be in before signup starts and arent allowed to leave till u played in reswar/clash

If ur late or leave u cant participate

[nova turret]

.

[muted sundial]

Okay, got it. When event starts, not when officers sign up. Thanks! @hexed island Confirmed 😉

[restive estuary]

@wet kiln 😒 Here’s clarity on the res war restrictions

[wet kiln]

Yeah, your snippet from the rules said that.. I saved diamonds Friday night 😂

[restive estuary]

I don’t remember it saying you can’t leave until you’ve played your time slot. That’s even more restrictive than we all thought lol

[wet kiln]

Once the sign up period starts that's it... If you leave you can't play

[quartz lotus]

It's not really a problem. I am not sure why people have such a problem with leaving alliances.

[muted sundial]

Farms in other alliances, for example… returning rss after accidental hits,…

😉

[quartz lotus]

Move the farm not your main. Both people shield and the hit doesn't happen

[muted sundial]

I know. Lol. In reality it does happen though. 😊 But thanks for your time to reply and for passing tips and tricks to everyone ✌🏼

[restive estuary]

Well, Loco swapped into the wrong account and left the alliance by accident. But his alliance was already signed up and he had been in the alliance when sign up started. So that’s a thing that happens. Additionally, some of us play res war on our other accounts too so swapping the farms to the main disqualifies the farms. And I know this is super weird for any state that isn’t 56, but we actually swap tags to run rallies for smaller alliances that can’t run the 40-45 lairs. We visit to help with pushing the next level of HQs. We swap tags to assist in Valiant. We swap tags to assist in Wasteland. Our state has a lot of reasons why restricting our alliance movement hurts us as a state and none of it has anything to do with cheating Res War.

[quartz lotus]

Well valiant and wasteland have no affect on res war so those are irrelevant. You can always dispatch all of your troops out of your farm and just attack it. Yes you lose more rrs than transporting but you don't have to leave the alliance and you will transfer rrs faster that way.
Our state has atleast one account in the roughly top 10 that can run atleast a 38. And I send rrs to help push HQ either before or after res war or alliance clash. So pretty much every reason you lasted as to why it is an inconvenience is avoidable.

[restive estuary]

Not when you add in speaker trap restrictions

[quartz lotus]

Run speaker trap after res war and you can still do all the other things you were talking about. Res and speaker are pretty much both 72 hour requirements so just run them together

[reef spruce]

It’s been in the rules since the change and people said it a bunch of times in here. It’s a question that gets asked a lot.

[restive estuary]

That’s why I tagged the person I was talking about it with and said here’s more clarity

[restive estuary]

We do. Speaker trap is twice a week

[restive estuary]

And you’re still ignoring the other reasons we swap alliances

[carmine nest]

Missy, I agree that it was an over reaction to a small issue with Res War in the past. Even though I personally answered the question, last night I changed alliances to manage some issues in my state before remembering the restriction. It sucks.

[quartz lotus]

I already covered your other reasons. Have you forgotten them already

[quartz lotus]

If speaker trap is twice a week how do you have time to do all the things you say you swap alliances for

[restive estuary]

Speaker trap is twice a week. Res war requires attendance from Tuesday Night to potentially Friday night depending on your time slot. If wasteland runs late, that pushes back when you can run speaker trap or you miss it. If you hop tags to run lairs for someone else. Or to send rss to help push builds, then you miss these events

[restive estuary]

That’s my point! We can’t anymore because we have to be stuck sitting at home for 6 days

[quartz lotus]

You could just run speaker trap once a week and still have time for everything else. You don't have to run every event any time you can there are to many events in this game to do that without being on it all the time. I personally don't think speaker rewards are worth it to try and hassle over doing it twice a week

[restive estuary]

We have an international alliance. We run all available events at two different times twice a week so that everyone has at least one shot at attending and we alternate our res war slot every other week too.

[quartz lotus]

We do that too and people need to just accept that they will miss events.

[restive estuary]

I don’t see why the 72-hour cooldown can’t be attached to people instead of being required to be in the alliance. The alliance can only run the trap every 72 hours anyway. So attach the cool down to me. I can hop around and come back and still do trap at home.

And as for Res War, as long as they’re in alliance before sign up day and back in alliance before matchmaking starts at reset, I don’t see why people can’t hop around. It shouldn’t affect matchups if they’re counted as part of the alliance ON sign up day

[quartz lotus]

I don't understand the cool down on speaker personally

[quartz lotus]

They could apply showdown rules to it and I would still kinda work. But it might be more of a surprise thing. Idk. Idk why they did it

[restive estuary]

Yeah and that’s why I’m adamant about them fixing these cool downs and rules. I am totally fine with them needing people in their alliances for matchmaking purposes. That’s logical and fair. But the forcing us to be in our alliances for 3-6 days to be able to attend our own events is ridiculous

[dapper dune]

Need to be in the alliance 1 second before reset into sign up day

[white finch]

Hi is this some kind of joke??? We got two Alliances for Clash last week that we did not even have to do anything just sit and wait as they were both under 3bil but now for Res War we got this!!!

My Alliance is 16bil how is this even fair to us or them??

[hot basin]

This what you put up against an alliance that just went though it’s first wasteland 🥺🥺 and still a baby

It not even fair, they will slaughter us.

[sand jewel]

How is it that my alliance was paired with another alliance from the same state? I thought that wasn't something done, since we can't endorse people from our own state.

[carmine nest]

It happens often. No rule or issue around it. The best Res War matches I’ve had were against same state alliances.

[sand jewel]

thanks

[reef spruce]

It has nothing to do with alliance might

[dapper dune]

It can only be Afinity score and time slot. There is no algorithm.

[reef spruce]

Imma make an emote

[quartz lotus]

Why don't you just take the free win. These matchups won't last forever because these alliances will get shuffled down and you will be moved up and matched with harder people.

And you will get a war game when you get into an high enough affinity

[dapper dune]

This event is a ladder system, not equal might system. Youll play weak team, win; move up to more equal teams; if you win you'll get stronger teams, lose and weaker teams. Typical ranked ladder system.

[static oar]

They "fixed" what wasn't broken and now it's broken.

[quartz lotus]

We got matched with an alliance that is higher might than ours but Me and @reef spruce are stronger than their strongest and that isn't going to take into account the type advantage we have over our opponent

[static oar]

Are you in that much of a hurry?

I was thinking Christmas 2022

[quartz lotus]

So our res war is going to be an easy and probably boring win

I have a little more fun because I am a 29 and I will be fighting a 34 which is their strongest.

It will be fixed when you win enough to move up.

Well you haven't won enough either

[static oar]

It's taking too long for the ladder to sort itself out. There should be some weight attributed to alliance might. These events are insanely fun when it's an even matchup, but they are so few and far between, many people just don't bother showing up.

[reef spruce]

@dapper dune here

[static oar]

It should

[quartz lotus]

These alliances you're getting matched against got pushed that high because people joined them for easy wins and they can't so that anymore

[reef spruce]

He hangs out here. But he knows a lot. He doesn’t have to be a mod to be knowledgeable. You guys are complaining about something that EVERYONE complains about but doesn’t seem to get. Your alliance might is irrelevant. There is no algorithm that works the way people think it does.

[quartz lotus]

Me not being a mod has nothing to do with you not understanding how a ladder system works. And I am trying to explain it to someone who has the mental understanding of a house fly

[reef spruce]

I’m just pointing out that you’re complaining about an issue for a matching method that isn’t used.

[reef spruce]

Read this. Thank you.

Y’all are being exhausting. It’s never worked by might. The end.

[quartz lotus]

A ladder system works when a wrench isn't thrown in it by strong people pushing weak alliances up the ladder

[static oar]

Shilling for PNS won't help the matter. If "everyone" complains about it, they should do something about it but people like you, white knighting for them make it so nothing will ever progress

[dapper dune]

Its not broken, darling. You just dont understand ladder competition

[quartz lotus]

It is broken because of strong people join weak alliances to get easy wins

[dapper dune]

Show me everyone? I only ever see weak teams complaining honestly.

[quartz lotus]

Okay how would you do it

How would you fix the problem

[dapper dune]

.00000001% of overall players complain about it

[static oar]

I was answering Geegee who said everyone complains about it.

[dapper dune]

Youd end up with the same matches.

[static oar]

Whatever, clearly you've made up your mind that we're wrong about this and won't bring it to the devs. I'm done wasting my time, have a good one.

[dapper dune]

K, bye

[quartz lotus]

All of that could be the same with both Alliances but one has 3 people with absolutely stacked stats and would easily crush the other alliance. You would be back to where you are now with a boring match because there would be no fighting

[quartz lotus]

Adios

[dapper dune]

Its been sent to dev many times. Theyre not going to change it.

[quartz lotus]

Because they know that it will fix itself with time

[dapper dune]

They understand the Karen effect and are unfazed.

[quartz lotus]

🤣🤣🤣

[dapper dune]

They fixed the 72 hour participation and confirmed dropping gear does nothing. Only other fix to it would be less time slots so the pools of opponents are larger per slot

[mild wraith]

Soooo I think the point of bringing up might is that together with the restrictive exiting during the sign up period it would be great if the system average the might of the alliance in whatever level their in to make the matches more even. We all very much know that might has nothing to do with it, but that it would more than likely result in more balanced match ups if they could factor it in. It is frustrating that these match ups are so lopsided and people do actively complain about it and instead we get snow and Godzilla. Adorable yes, but it would be great to try and adjust this first.

[gilded pasture]

Careful, Mods can get removed too for being rude and bullying

Then what would be your claim to fame?

I believe a CS ticket is appropriate for this response of yours

[dapper dune]

That not rude or bullying

[gilded pasture]

You are supposed to be helpful

Call for help. Its screenshoted, a CS ticket filed

If you cant be helpful and polite, you need to be replaced. No one was rude or insulting to you

Making snide remarks is out of line for someone who is supposed to be here to help

If you cant say something nice, maybe refrain from replying

[dusty fractal]

I personally don’t think it would be all that difficult to do.

1. Put all who picked a certain time slot into a pool
2. Put all of a certain “ladder rung” into a pool
3. Make pools based on alliance might (1b-3b, 4b to 6b, 7b-9b etc.)
4. Divide the alliance might by total members and find the average
   Voila. You’ve got at least a moderately equitable system. Sure, it doesn’t take into account alliances with one whale and 99 weaker members, but nothing’s perfect.

[mild wraith]

👆🏾👆🏾👆🏾👆🏾👆🏾👆🏾

[quartz lotus]

Those whale alliances are more common than you think

[dusty fractal]

I know they are, but it would get rid of having a 15b might alliance paired with a 3b might alliance

[mild wraith]

Right but it would give a majority a better chance. No one’s looking for perfect…but BETTER is literally achievable for the devs

[quartz lotus]

A ladder system does the same thing with time. It has to fix itself after bigs who wanted easy wins pushed weak alliances up the ladder

[sullen lagoon]

lol. most karen shit ive ever seen

[quartz lotus]

You wanna be a mod? It isn't worth it for the sheer stupidity they have to put up with in this discord

[onyx lotus]

Simp

[quartz lotus]

Lmao. Ain't that the truth

[sullen lagoon]

nothing offensive or rude happened from anyone that was discussing it. people with different points debating, no big till IRL karens get sand in the @@#%$!

[gilded pasture]

Proud of the weakest SWP?

[onyx lotus]

Alright alright getting off track

[quartz lotus]

That's your comeback/argument

Lol

[gilded pasture]

Says the guy who has nothing better to do than hang out on PNS discord playing know it all. What's it like to be popular on a phone game discord? Bet you get a lot of dates on that.

[sullen lagoon]

youre literally doing the same thing

[quartz lotus]

You have no arguement about the topic so you go to personal attacks. How often do you ask for the manager?

[sullen lagoon]

now youre insulting people? did you just cry about that?

[gilded pasture]

I pointed out a Mod shouldn't bully

Big difference

[sullen lagoon]

they werent though

[gilded pasture]

And I am just returning the love you are showing.

[quartz lotus]

You literally called her a Karen before me sooooo

[sullen lagoon]

Karen is a fact, not an insult. like calling the sky blue

[gilded pasture]

Its been fun, but I have a life. Enjoy your time online. You're here enough 😂

[sullen lagoon]

make sure you say to to the manager for me

[onyx lotus]

Anyway here’s some ideas

[sullen lagoon]

i like the idea of less times so the amount of alliance to be paired is better. we suck and usually get beat up. nice to get more 7-9b mights in the same slot

using might seems like it would work until the big money alliances get paired. then you have those single hitters alliances that will never get a hard match

idk, what im talking about though...

[onyx lotus]

Those are fair points though

My alliance flip flops on wins/losses because we either A.) get demoted and fight people who are basically half our strength or B.) get alliances almost double our might that rail us

So I’d love for a more fair system as well

[dapper dune]

It wouldn't be hard to tier the levels like Nuka. Instead of Afinity deciding the tier, it would have to be like the Average might per player of the alliance(though using farms to lower it is an easy exploit). Rewards would have to be adjusted greatly to reflect the tiers you've past. I've added that system to suggestion on reports like 10xs in the past.

[onyx lotus]

I love that idea personally! Hopefully we could submit some tickets to help expedite some change in that direction

[dapper dune]

As players, youd have to send it to CS

If 100 people suggest it here it only cones in as a top suggestion from me.

Not 100 suggestions

What people dont realise is, we send in every top suggestion. Even if we dont agree with it. Suggestion reporting is basic; here are the top things suggested...

[dapper dune]

Everyone is betting against us in Res War, the other team already asked for a deal so they can get points. What makes y'all pick the team you want to bet on?

[quartz lotus]

What alliance are you in

[dapper dune]

I don't wanna top the scale. Lol

[quartz lotus]

Pls

[steep sierra]

For crying out loud stop the in fair pairings!!!! No one wants to play when they know they are beaten lol.

Double our might?!! How does this even make sense?

[simple ridge]

You wanna see something worse

This is my alliance

Meet Our opponents

[tulip valve]

So one thing you can’t be sure of is that all of those folks are going to participate. Second, it’s still possible to pull points from that match up.

Participation matters

[simple ridge]

I messaged their R5 and Militarist. They plan to show up, but they give us a few buildings.

Pairing is SOOOO off though

[steep sierra]

Yes it is I’ve been playing for over a year now and I’ve seen so many unfair parings not only during res but also during zenith.

[dusty fractal]

That’s true, however, when there is a disparity that large you have to rely on the other alliance showing mercy and giving you a deal. Considering the relative might of the members, if even one of the other alliance’s top 10 members is online they will literally be able to kick them out of any building they want. Participation can only get you so far

Relying on others showing mercy shouldn’t be necessary

[steep sierra]

I agree

[dusty fractal]

Judging by individual might, their alliance has t9 (at most) and is supposed to face t10s and potentially a t11 or 2. No amount of participation will bridge that gap

[quartz lotus]

But stats can.

I have t9 and I have beaten more than a couple 35s

A strong 35 no. But a weaker 35 who has the troop tier high so I strong mentality, yes

[unique zenith]

yep, im a 29 and hitting lairs higher than a lot of weaker hq30+ in my state

[dusty fractal]

…you’ve beaten a 400m+ might player with an account with 70m might? I find that hard to believe. Sure, there are some super t9s around but they aren’t in the poster’s alliance

[quartz lotus]

70 million might no. I am close 350 million. But I have beaten 400+ million 33 to 35s

[dusty fractal]

There’s no way an alliance with a maximum player might of 70ish million has extremely powerful stats

[quartz lotus]

Their buildings could be really low and only have 1 march of troops

And only upgrade certain heros

It would be a lot of trouble to make an account like that but it is possible

[dusty fractal]

And that’s the thing. I would call you a souped up t9 (and I think I tried you in a past valiant). I think it’s VERY unlikely that this is the case this time. Those 2 alliances don’t have any business facing each other.

[quartz lotus]

That is true but it could be a case like we had one clash when we face a 15 billion might alliance as a 7 billion and we got paired with them due to affinity and they were that low because they had just immigrated and had to start over from zero

[dapper dune]

There are plenty of plastic 35s. I see them in Nuka, so weak they shouldnt even be 30 with their stats

[limpid pecan]

I’m drawing a blank

Is logistics base open on Veteran 2 level?

[simple ridge]

In this instance we have done a good job winning previous wars. however....Stats in my alliance aren't the best and like @dusty fractal mentioned, they just need 1 strong player to show up.
I checked out their state and HQs. Ganna be up T11's and 10's. We have one player in the alliance with new T9's. Just wanted to share the difference in the matchmaking. Glad to have an opponent that is willing to give us an opportunity to earn points. Shouldn't have to be that way though, pairing system definitely needs to improve.

[radiant mauve]

Ok this is ridiculous. Who does this. It is literally a NEW alliance aginst us. MODERATORS look at this and explained to me how this is even a match a computer can generate.

My alliance is the 12.7 billion. VS a 1.7 billion.

[quartz lotus]

It's your corp Affinity. It is kinda pretty low for your alliance might. Did you recently immigrate?

[radiant mauve]

Where that at and like 7 months ago we moved

[quartz lotus]

Do you see the 2 badges under your alliance banner

[quartz lotus]

The left badge is res war corp affinity and the right is for alliance showdown

[radiant mauve]

Ok well we got demoted because at the alliance clash we got set up with 2 alliances that were MILES ahead of us in might...setting up fights due to affinity is not a very good stragity

[quartz lotus]

You both have the same corp affinity so you got matched together. And they will change after this match and you won't get matched with them again unless you lose the next and they win the next

[quartz lotus]

It is a ladder system and it should work itself out eventually

[radiant mauve]

This has been from the start of alliance clashes. So what you are saying is we win this res war we move up. We LOSE alliance clash causr it sets us up with in winnable matches we move back down. And get matched with yet again another weak alliance. I hope you are right but I messaged this because this is what has happened since alliance clash was introduced

[flat egret]

Hi! I'm not sure if this has been asked here. Does it matter how many troops we send to the towers? Or do we earn the same points, depending on the bldg/tower, even if we send 1 or 10,000 troops?

For example, we want to maximize the number of members who can send troops to the towers so we'll ask them to send fewer troops to make room for the others. Will the member earn the same number of points compared to sending full troops in one march?

[carmine nest]

1 troop is all that is required for full occupation points in a tower.
Also good for reducing casualties

[flat egret]

This is the answer I need. Haha. Thanks!

[severe marlin]

Help how do I find my group

[fresh burrow]

I have a question. What’s the best way to ask for a deal for reservoir war and what would be reasonable? This alliance has only participated in res war twice and our opponent is the governors alliance of another state. As an experienced player myself, I want the players of this newer state to enjoy the battle, but also to learn the strategy aspect. Thanks for your help

[plain roost]

My form letter.

Greetings, I come as the negotiator.

(Alliance) offers a treaty for our Alliance vs Alliance event. (Reservoir War).

We offer that each team get the closest 2 towers- towers 1, 2, & Doom Fortress 1 or towers 7, 8 & Doom Fortress 2.

We also offer that no HQ's will be hit.

This will result in all fighting being done at other towers (3-6) & all other buildings besides the Doom Fortresses.

Please respond regarding this proposal.

Thank you & good luck.

-You, (Alliance Position)

[fresh burrow]

Thanks…that will help a lot. 😀

[unique zenith]

For those of you who complain about the matchups in res war and alliance clash due to the affinity ranking deciding the pairings

stats are king in this game

[quartz lotus]

Daaaaaaaaayummmm. You look like my type of alliance

[quartz lotus]

Dang.

Looks like the one from above

[unique zenith]

2 of the 7 players in res were farm accounts as well 😂

[quartz lotus]

What's the might difference between your players and the other alliance

[unique zenith]

Our biggest is 350, theirs was 370. We had a 300mil, 260mil, 250mil, and 220mil. They had a 300, a 280, a couple of 270s, a couple of 250s, probably 4 around the 200mark, plus their smaller players

[quartz lotus]

Sounds like I would've had a lot of fun.

[unique zenith]

Definitely

[quartz lotus]

Have I seen you in nuka before? Because I see that you're a 29.
Your alliance also looks shooter heavy

@unique zenith

[unique zenith]

I think we went up against each other in nuka a couple of months ago and were going back and forth over boxes the whole time cuz I was the only one who could pack a punch against your stats at the time 😂

Yeah we’re definitely shooter heavy which has its disadvantages. Used to be more well-rounded before half of the alliance immigrated to a new state and we stayed behind

[quartz lotus]

I knew you looked familiar. They have gone up since then and so has my march size

[quartz lotus]

Why'd they leave?

[unique zenith]

Yep , I think you were under 2.5k for your stats at the time and I was still under 2k

[quartz lotus]

Sounds roughly right. I am waiting on a might bl to upgrade a few more. Will put me around 2950

[unique zenith]

A number of different dramas over about 6 months that ended with all our big alliances leaving the state. Those of us who stayed behind didn’t wanna go (or were one of the 6-7 inactives)

[quartz lotus]

Ahhh so is it more of a dead state now?

[unique zenith]

god damn that’s impressive, I’m only just under 2150 now myself, but i’ve got slow and steady growth. just trying not to overspend right now 😂

it was, but we recently had 3/4 full alliances of active and strong players immigrate and it’s bringing the state back to life

[quartz lotus]

Yeah. Me too but with the new event coming out I want to get atleast the sanctuary and the march skins

And I am running really low on nano weapon parts so I will definitely be spending on this one

As much as I like my cake it is kinda old now

[unique zenith]

I’m constantly running out of nano parts 😂

[quartz lotus]

That's pretty much what I use my weapon boxes on is parts

[quartz lotus]

I did some rough figuring and I can get to 3500 with just chips.

[unique zenith]

That’s insane! Hell of a lot of work (and money) but will definitely be worth it in the long run

I’ll be lucky to get to 3500 before 2023 😂

[quartz lotus]

I'm not sure what gear will contribute but modules will be like maybe 70 more percent if I get them all to 25 which I think is the maximum enhancement lvl for 2rs. And the codes will be probably another 75 if the trend continues. So if I had to guess the maximum for a 29 would be somewhere around 4200

[gleaming silo]

Ok noob question for the morning. Are signups scheduled utc?

[reef spruce]

The times shown on the sign ups are your time zone

[gleaming silo]

Thank you, new to schedule time for my alliance

[quartz lotus]

Wooooooo hoooooooooo it's almost that time of the week again.

I'm sooo bored when it's not res or nuka. Soooooooo bored

[quartz lotus]

Do you happen to own a chocolate factory?

[reef spruce]

[quartz lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/umm-confused-blinking-okay-white-guy-blinking-gif-7513882

[fierce helm]

Been hearing this and wanted to know if it true!
Can anyone confirm if getting naked (dropping gear, chips etc) before sign up ends help with the might and pairing up giving an advantage.

[carmine nest]

Will do nothing but waste your time 👍

[fierce helm]

That what I thought but keep getting told we should be doing 🤦‍♀️

[quartz lotus]

Tell your leaders that matches are based on Corp Affinity alone and that might has nothing to do with it.

[dapper dune]

It does make me laugh when I see it, so that's something at least

[reef spruce]

Show them that

[quartz lotus]

Looks great ❤

[craggy dagger]

The match up system is a joke. My 10 billion might alliance got matched with a 1.5 billion and 825 million might alliances. I get having a tiered system, but there should still be a matching up of might within it. Same thing needs to happen with wasteland. Both are ridiculous.

[abstract badge]

couldn't agree more

[summer nexus]

Kończę z tą grą

Gram od ponad roku

Ale to co jest ostatnio to już masakra

Zacznę wystawiać opinie na temat tej gry.

Bo obsługa nie robi żadnych kroków celem poprawy.

[reef spruce]

Thanks 😊 I made it a couple of weeks ago 😂

Same complaints every week

[quartz lotus]

I remember. You showed me. Just wanted to complement you again

[hollow shore]

Hello, guys! Does someone have the alliance clash event's map?

I can't remember the position of the buildings.

[tulip valve]

Prezes 007

Because the service does not take any steps to improve.

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[hollow shore]

Thank you very much!

[quartz lotus]

Can a <@&742285797725569104> pin this please. This is like the 4th time someone has asked this.

[quartz lotus]

thank you :)

[tulip valve]

Not that people check pins. But mmkaaay

[quartz lotus]

Well now I can send this to them

[dapper dune]

Our Clash this week is the most even I've ever been in, including any Res War. Should be fun. Good job match making

[tulip valve]

Mmmmhmmm not for me lmfao

[dapper dune]

Everyone only posts when they are the weakest, figured I'd go against that trend

[odd trout]

Be in an alliance which has low alliance grade this time we match up with 1.65B and 1.85B , LOL.
Its gonna be easy AC, lol

[tulip valve]

Yeah our Clash is starting to even as well @dapper dune looks good for us. Fair fight for sure!

[quartz lotus]

Our match is also even but should be and easy win as there is only 1 shooter in the other alliances and the rest are either fighter or rider and out alliance is pretty much rider based

[summer nexus]

We already have 6 times stronger alliances.

This will be the case again and I will leave negative feedback

2 players with t9 vs states with t11 and over 500 million power a parody

[violet basalt]

Don't be angry. We have the same problem. Every week 😂 fight and have fun

[viscid imp]

@hollow shore try YouTube. That is where I find what I need. I will look for you too. I hate waiting for the map to drop

[quartz lotus]

The map has been posted

[frozen olive]

Yeah leave the negative feedback

[frozen olive]

Check you pins. It was just posted today.

[hollow shore]

Yeap, thanks!

[green hornet]

What stats are you talking about and what strategy do you use

[reef spruce]

Your equipment stats. Gear, chips, modules, cubes. Plus glory and Nova.

[fiery orchid]

Just want to ask that developers get drug tested before making matchups. Just freakin stupid tonight

[tulip valve]

Literally my favorite

[reef spruce]

It’s by affinity. Thank you.

Say it with me: your might has nothing to do with it.

[fiery orchid]

17 bill vs 5 bil. But ok

[tulip valve]

Hi!!! Might has nothing to do with it

Am testing it. New alliance. Just me and my alts. Vs two others. Who have solo players against me.

I’m BOT

It’s about participation, following trucks and making smart moves

[reef spruce]

We’ve beaten an alliance with only 2 of our own players. Might does not matter. Stats do.

[reef spruce]

And that. Strategy.

Block trucks from moving. Follow them. Use what talent you have. If you’re smaller, rally. Use hits to weaken them.

[fiery orchid]

I’ve been playing for a while, so please stop the bull. When you have 36 hqs all over and largest one we have is 32 and when he doesn’t show, it sucks. We know strategy and rallies and everything else. We had 0 chance

The other alliance was even half our strength

[tulip valve]

Zol, I think you’re looking at it wrong

I think you’re going in with the thought of losing rather than how can we win.

That’ll cause a loss every time

[tulip valve]

I too have played awhile… a little over a year. It’s stats and strategy. I had four players. Those four players were me. Play smarter, not harder

[green hornet]

I understand play smarter but what do you do so we can all play smarter

[uneven kayak]

Follow trucks don’t let other team hold any towers in water truck route and if you’re strong enough don’t allow them to occupy anything for 3 minutes. Points only accumulate 3 minutes after holding a tower or fort

And kill as many of their troops as possible. Hoping they don’t waste heals. No troops mean no points

[tulip valve]

I don’t why people always complain about might. It drives me bananas!!! You can have someone with a whole shitload of might and just be a fluffy pillow with troop might. Or you can see someone literally with 300m and their gear is batshit crazy with very few units…

[frozen olive]

I saw your gear. That’s crazy…scared me

😂😂

[tulip valve]

Lmao when and where?

[frozen olive]

Your on 215.?

[tulip valve]

For now

Lol

[frozen olive]

We’re neighbors 😂😂

K&Q

[tulip valve]

Ah shit yes I remember

[frozen olive]

I’m coming over next reset.

[glass holly]

Sure that if no boost clare under these troop. Might go down fast.

[thick torrent]

scared me too 😱

[frozen olive]

😂😂

[hushed hatch]

Ich muss mich mal beschweren, über das Event.........Seit Wochen beobachte ich es. Es ist es unlogisch eine Allianz mit 1,5 Mrd Macht gegen eine Allianz mit 11 oder 8 Mrd Macht gegeneinander antreten zu lassen. Was ist das für ein Schwachsinn.....Was stimmt denn im System nicht? Das ist a entweder ein schlechter Scherz oder b ein großer Systemfehler......An diesem System sollte unbedingt dringend mal gearbeitet werden.

[frozen olive]

The system has many factors it looks at for choosing opponents. It is not always about the might each team has.

[hushed hatch]

Naja mit einer Allianz, wo der Stärkste ein HQ 26 hat gegen ne Allianz, wo der stärkste HQ 35 hat ist nicht gerade logisch.....Macht auch wegen Sinn T9 gegen T11......also daran sollte man mal arbeiten

oder eher gesagt 100x Mio Macht gegen 400x Macht anzutreten

[frozen olive]

I understand what you are saying. And this happens a lot more than you think. The best bet is to message the other team and ask for 2 towers and the doom fortress so your members can get points

[hushed hatch]

Der Deal ist safe dafür, aber die Logik vom System dafür, muss dringend mal überarbeitet werden....ungefähr wie bei Nuka z.bsp,

[low quail]

I love the new Battle chat! Good work devs.💪

[tulip valve]

[LoD] Graf von Valium

I have to complain more about the event. It is inextricably a . with 1.5 mrd makes it against a macht with 11 or 8 mrd to join each other. What is it a sense of weakness...what is not in the system? This is either a worse-than-expected or b a big system error... This system should be urgently worked.

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German (de) → English (en) Reacted by JoshTheLMT#9708 • ID: 236926804701478913

[LoD] Graf von Valium

the deal is safe for this, but the logik of the system is urgently re-examined.

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German (de) → English (en) Reacted by JoshTheLMT#9708 • ID: 236926804701478913

[modern karma]

I would LOVE to find out the factors that lead to this match. 😂

[fiery orchid]

I’d love to see a book on this idea it’s not all about might. So if I’m a 29 hq with 1mill t9s and I go against a 36 hq with 1 mill t11s, what would I need to beat that? Hope they have no gear, modes, chips?

[uneven kayak]

Stats. Boost is king! If you are in the same corp affinity as them then you can be matched with them. Same concept with sports. If you win enough matches and go to playoffs. You’ll face opponents that did the same. Even if the other team is better it doesn’t matter. You win until you lose. Then win again. Then lose again. Etc. we just faced two MUCH stronger teams and lost terribly lol. It is what it is. Just have fun and go get em next time.

My state had a t9 player hit destroyer harder than a lot of t11s. His stats are legit and so was his March size.

[modern karma]

It not the same as sports though. Lol Sports don’t follow code. A .200 hitter in baseball can get into the “Zone” and have a great playoffs, or a star pitcher can choke under pressure. The T12 Riders aren’t all going to get flat tires on the way to destroying a tower full of T10s. 😉

[hushed hatch]

the Chat is really good 👍

[quartz lotus]

Corp Affinity. And that is it.

[quartz lotus]

I have beaten a few 35s as a 29.

[quartz lotus]

What are his stats, march size, and state?

[quartz lotus]

5 marches for me hit the destroyer at a little over 90 billion total for me

[bold escarp]

So do you need to be in alliance when they are choosing the other alliances for clash like you have to be for res. War

[carmine nest]

For both Alliance Clash and Reservoir War, you need to be in the alliance before the signup period starts (before reset), and stay in the alliance until your timeslot. If you leave for any period of time (even if your alliance hasnt signed up yet, or after your matching is complete), you will not be able to participate.

[bold escarp]

Ok

Thanks

[tulip valve]

You’re such a silly goose 😝

[bright barn]

Please no res war or alliance clash during update...our clash was a mess. Rallys that you could not join, not because of being full, but no "join now" button onscreen or not appearing at all, even with game announcement of it. Half of the event screen was just green, nothing else onscreen to be seen.

[tulip valve]

Beware of this alliance! Do not make any agreements with this alliance, they will not stick to it and break the agreement!

[quartz lotus]

What's their top player look like?

[quartz lotus]

Haha we would not have to worry about them and I think they would follow an agreement made with us.
I could've won in my old alliance where it was usually mainly me fighting people.

[tulip valve]

Yes agreed even our clash was super laggy more then usual.

[unique zenith]

i’d love to come up against them 🤣

a few million easy kills i wouldn’t even worry about getting points in towers

[brave solar]

Has there always been a limit to alliance relocates in res war/clash? I tried to relocate my base today during clash and got a message like alliance relocations are used up

[neat fossil]

Does somebody know if an alliance doesn't apply for res war, are the points going down like it was lost?

[steep vale]

Yes as your corp affinity gets higher it starts to limit relocates from Veteran II and up. You can gain more by holding Logistics Base. 5 for first occupation and 1 per minute (per Logistic base)

[tulip valve]

So, when are they going to get rid of Alliance clash since that was the overwhelming opinion in the pol. Because i'm to the point of just asking my alliance if they want to take every other week off. I hate this event

[frozen olive]

Like always…I fell asleep during mine haha

[reef spruce]

We had issues with a pop up saying invalid troops lol

[reef spruce]

We did that two weeks ago. I don’t think it’s going anywhere. They wanted to get rid of Res War and so many people said no, they’re keeping the alternating. It was a bit misleading of a poll. Wouldn’t pass a review board 😂

[tulip valve]

It's way more aggravation than it's worth. Especially when the trucks refuse to come anywhere near your buildings and both the other teams break NAP against you.

[reef spruce]

I would recommend just doing NAP for partial time, if you aren’t already, that way if the trucks are favoring a side, it won’t screw you over the whole time.

[brave solar]

Thank you 🙂

[kindred ginkgo]

Can we get arena split up because how does a 9 ,million might player have any chance of beating a 16 mil might player! NO! Should make it like it might based

And groups like 8 9 10 mill might another 11-12 13 and then one 14 15 16

[unique zenith]

#💭closed-game-suggestions

[frozen olive]

Yeah! Like brackets

[feral roost]

Just want to say the 3rd chat option for svs wars is great!!

[harsh quarry]

You have to go to alliance tab to join rallies for Res/Clash.

[carmine nest]

Why does it show me an option to endore an alliance from my own state when it clearly tells me that isnt possible? I thought it was supposed to provide options that were endorsable?

[tulip valve]

Just cause lol

[frozen olive]

So who am I endorsing? Lol

[tulip valve]

Definitely s59

[frozen olive]

Done lol

[tulip valve]

Can we bribe B.jack and Danny ? We can get more diamonds🤣 🤣

[tulip valve]

I’m joining them in a few days 🤣

[tulip valve]

💪 💪 I'm waiting S1000 and migrate later😝

[tulip valve]

I travel every 30-60 days might meet up lmao

[thick torrent]

😳

[frozen olive]

You still have me

😂😂

[thick torrent]

come over to us then 😏

[frozen olive]

My alliance would kill me

They would be lost

[thick torrent]

we protect you

[tulip valve]

Bubble can help🤣

[frozen olive]

😂

[reef spruce]

I’m about to leave mine behind pfft

Buncha buttheads

[frozen olive]

Come to us lol

[reef spruce]

Noooo I couldn’t leave them because 1 person is being a butt. He also doesn’t mean it 😂 he just gives me grief even though without me he would be a weakling

[tulip valve]

Bring all😝

[reef spruce]

There are 100 of us 🤣

[tulip valve]

That's cool.... New family💪

[tulip valve]

Ultrastrong you’re the best and you know lost will forever be my BoyToy but I gots to keep it moving 🤣

[thick torrent]

thought you were staying longer this time. next time will be another 75 years later? 🥺

[tulip valve]

I did stay longer lol it’s way past my 30 days…nah probably see me again after a few states like always 😂

[thick torrent]

you have fixed stops for your tours?

[tulip valve]

I been coming back to 215 every 3 states I visit usually

[reef spruce]

Wow what a traveler

I wanna visit Lora

[tulip valve]

I usually stop at 224 too

[reef spruce]

But on my mini

[tulip valve]

In 170

[reef spruce]

Yeah

[tulip valve]

It’s fun

Was there 3 months ago

[reef spruce]

I told her I might

[tulip valve]

https://tenor.com/view/holiday-classics-elf-excited-will-ferrell-gif-3902442

Who visits Lora with their mini those want to join with their main😈

[tulip valve]

You never really came for me but 911 soooooo

[reef spruce]

Hey it’s not that mini! It’s a 29! My main is too big to drag around and also my alliance would collapse 😂

[tulip valve]

Fine , I allow

And then later you can bring your alliance too

[reef spruce]

We came from 166. If I brought them backwards 4 states away from where we started, they’d murder me 🤣

[tulip valve]

Tell them..

And bring them to 170

[quartz lotus]

Who? Cal?

[simple dawn]

So.... i feel like i should already know this by now lol.... But i had to go to another alliance to repay resources for one of our teammates mistakes then returned to ours.....will i still be able to join Res since i was in our alliance during and after the matchmaking process? Or no?

[carmine nest]

Definitely not able to join Res War 😢
You have to stay in your alliance from just before the matchmaking opens until your match up time.

[simple dawn]

What i figured but wasnt completely sure lol. Thanks for fast response!

[carmine nest]

After reminding someone about it a couple weeks ago, hours later I went and did the same as you did without thinking. It did save me from burning healing speedups when we got crushed. Lol

[simple dawn]

Haha well yeah true lol. I totally wasnt thinking of it at the time honestly. It's okay though. I just wanted to be sure))

[dapper dune]

#✅alliances-seeking-players only. Please

[limpid pecan]

I have a question. Is there anyone here who speaks Russian that can assist me?

We are having a small communication issue with Res. And I’m not sure how to make ourselves understood

[low quail]

@tulip valve Maybe? Or am I wrong?🙈

[tulip valve]

I speak Russian. What's up

DM me , I'll reply

[limpid pecan]

Ty

[bold summit]

if we get attacked during the event do we lose our rrss?

[gusty pivot]

Not these days

[bold summit]

also, if you are iddle and decide to shield but someone attacks your tower/building... do you go into war frenzy?

[reef spruce]

You can’t shield while in the buildings

[lavish citrus]

Guys need more info about Res War . Can we get more points if we send many troops on blgds or number of units didn't matter?

[thick torrent]

troop size doesn’t matter for res war or clash

[lavish citrus]

Thanks buddy

[outer mauve]

Please tell me how the fuck this match up can be fair at all in res wars?

Opponent

My alliance

Opponent is cool, they are kind
But the system is fucked up

[gusty pivot]

Yeah its taking too long for alliances to move in tiers and this is what keeps happening

[outer mauve]

So fucking messed up

Not the first time this happens

They dont have twice the might... Not even three Times the might, its more

[tulip valve]

They don’t match up alliances based on might , it’s all about the time slot and openings plus your affinity level…

[outer mauve]

Still its not fair

Its fucked up

[gusty pivot]

They really should use alliance might as some kind of starting point then they go to what tier they end up

Matcbups like these are completely unplayable

[outer mauve]

Yeah and use the 72h rule like they do in party and speaker

Why does not that apply to RW or alliance clash???

[quartz lotus]

It does apply

[outer mauve]

Well if it does its new, it didnt apply last mounth

[quartz lotus]

It has been applied for awhile now. You can't leave your alliance after sign up day starts or you can't participate

[gusty pivot]

Its like if nuka didnt have hq tiers and youre supposed to rank up

[quartz lotus]

Well if that was the case I would be ahead of quite a few 30 to 34

[tulip valve]

This is not wise either cause might doesn’t mean shit anymore, it’s all about stats. Just saw a maxed out 34 kicking T11s asses

@quartz lotus yeah might would put me in a great spot cause I don’t have many troops but my stats are good…so either way no matter how they set it up ppl will complain…

[quartz lotus]

Yep. People will always complain

[outer mauve]

Any way, the match up is fucked up. Im just glad that the opponent game us nsp so we could get the points

[gusty pivot]

I said starting point

Its better than nothing, cuts down on these type of matchups that are purely for the big alliances to get to their appropriate tiers week after week

Just tons of 1 hr afk fests instead of actual res war

Your alliance would still end up in your appropriate tier too

[reef spruce]

Can’t please everyone. If they did that eventually you’d run out of people to face and people would complain.

Time for my weekly

[gusty pivot]

No they introduce new alliances from newer states all the time

[reef spruce]

Right but winning is always going to push you up…you can’t avoid stronger alliances. We faced a MASSIVE alliance yesterday. It happens. We lost. Idk why everyone cries about it every single time.

[harsh quarry]

It isn’t always might. Sometimes it’s just sheer force of numbers! My one alliance we are always outnumbered between 2 and 4 to one!
We usually have 4-6 people. They generally have 15-30! We’ve won a few, but at this point I think we’ll be rookies forever!

[reef spruce]

Pick a time that works better?

[dapper dune]

Only like 5 people show up? Thats extremely low. 15-30 is low

[reef spruce]

20 is our average. There’s no time that works well for everyone.

[unique zenith]

we’ve got 30 people in our alliance, some of which are inactives so we regularly only have 4-6 players (plus a couple of their farm accounts if they happen to be online) show up. sometimes we win, sometimes we lose, it’s about doing what you can regardless

i got 9.3mil kills in our res war this week we way outmatched the alliance we were up against, but the alliance’s overall night was the same as ours and they had the same number of players, we just had the better stats and a troop type advantage over most of them

[reef spruce]

Damn dude that’s rough

[unique zenith]

it is what it is, we still have fun whether we win or lose

the res war before this one, we were up against an alliance with about 3.5x the total might, and they had 4x the amount of players one than we did at the time, and we still win with close to double the points

it’s all about playing smart and using stats to your advantage when you can

[harsh quarry]

Small alliance. 32 people, and not all of them are eligible. We’re looking for a time compatible with more people, but so far we haven’t.

[tulip valve]

Yeah... We are the small alliance.... Come to me 😝

[harsh quarry]

Lol. You come to ME!

[tulip valve]

Haha... They tied up me🤣 🤣 🤣

[harsh quarry]

My grandson would like to try since I keep putting him in the playpen and he keeps climbing out. So he’d like to tie me up so I can’t put him there in the first place.

[tulip valve]

🤘

[dapper dune]

I'm not sharing him, all mine

[tulip valve]

@unique zenith have you ever thought about merging your alliance to get more active ppl and better teamwork for events for better rewards?

[reef spruce]

He’s in an old state where they don’t have a ton of people

And I’m assuming lacking space for them all. But just an assumption.

[tulip valve]

I have seen older states merge. Not a lot ppl should push them to merge and become a United state

[unique zenith]

all the big alliances left our state about 5-6months ago, we’re the remaining members of our alliance who didn’t immigrate. We’ve had 4 new big alliances immigrate in within the last couple of months, but they’re all full-up on members. There is the possibility of merging with a newer training alliance, but due to how established our main active players already are in various events and the type of alliances we get matched up against, i fear that it may be unsuitable for the current might size and stats of the people in the training alliance if we were to merge

[quartz lotus]

It would help to show them how you fight stronger people. But they probably wouldn't be able to do much themselves

[unique zenith]

yeah exactly, and i’d worry that it could potentially demotivate them if they’re constantly taking big hits and losing their troops (even though they come back at the end) during events like res

[quartz lotus]

Yeah I get that. I've been humbled a couple times in res but before now they mostly motivate me to become stronger.

[reef spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/pumpkin-pie-thanksgiving-yum-dessert-gif-13050676

[unique zenith]

not everybody is built like us and able to take the hits as motivation though. i’ve seen people quit the game after getting zeroed in valiant cuz they weren’t on their game and weren’t quick enough

shit i’ve been zeroed in valiant before and i just said to myself “if i ever see that c*nt in a svs event again they’ll be the first fire i light” 😂

[quartz lotus]

That's not a major reason to quit though. I mean if the had a massive amount of rrs in their bar I would get it but those can be gathered again. And most are willing to send you rrs

I typically don't do much in svs. Don't have a reason too

[gusty pivot]

Why quit? Youre back to full the next day lol

[unique zenith]

I know lol, but some people just don’t think about things like that, especially if they’re fairly new players getting beat up on all the time

[reef spruce]

Not resources though

[gusty pivot]

He said 'not quick enough' i assume they were just fighting or raiding, not forgot to shield so didnt even lose all the resource?

[reef spruce]

Yeah but if you got a bunch of rss they’re now gone

[old tinsel]

It's quite comparative to managing a group of people. Make it fun. Use compliment sandwiches.. like good job/compliment - pointer that might make them feel some type of way - you are awesome/compliment. I mean . The ones that make it will be tougher for it. The ones that don't... You can boot or keep them around for extra points in DR 😂 you have to lead by example and be the morale.. help them build right and not make the mistakes you did. The ones worth it will be worth the trouble.

[unique zenith]

I already manage a pub 50 hours a week for work I don’t know if I have it in me to be doing that constantly as well (even though i do do my best to give helpful advice to other players whenever i can) 😂

[radiant mauve]

I have a question. Did they eliminate the 72 hour in alliance penalty for res war . And alliance clash... dobyou only have to be in an alliance BEFORE the sign up ends

[tulip valve]

Not that I know of. Still the same. Have to be in alliance at the sign up and till event starts

[radiant mauve]

Thank you

[reef spruce]

You have to be in before sign up shows up. So right before reset. So even if your alliance doesn’t actually sign up until right before next reset, it’s too late for someone to join.

[radiant mauve]

Thanks