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[tall leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/wel-gif-4387558

[lyric dawn]

But some nice easy quests has been put in its place

[tall leaf]

Oh? Transport was very easy. Pass materials back and forth. Spending Alliance coins also easy.. What have they been replaced with??

[lyric dawn]

Here

[lyric dawn]

Read in what pulled forward there's some decent quests so far

[tall leaf]

I guess that depends on what you consider decent. So far I've seen Bioenhancers and Modification quests. They aren't exactly easy.

[lyric dawn]

75 helps for 210

[jolly geyser]

Then don't do then. There's still hero and helps. Arena. Lairs

[lyric dawn]

15 mystery shop for 210 points

Why yall focusing on the harder crap weirdos

[jolly geyser]

Lol

[tall leaf]

In 210 question marks then

[jolly geyser]

No

[lyric dawn]

Nope

[old inlet]

Better points and less requirements on some other easy quests. Like mystery shop and quiz big quests are much much quicker. Helps too.

[jolly geyser]

Also one of the buy quests is cheaper too. lol

[tall leaf]

I haven't seen any of those yet.

[jolly geyser]

It's only been a few hours

[lyric dawn]

My list i pulled forward is a mesh of pns players quests they have seen since reset

[tall leaf]

in that time my alliance eliminated and reset the board at least 4 times

we automatically kill anything under 100 points

[lyric dawn]

My t9 has 75 helps for 210 and my t11 has 15 mystery for 210

[jolly geyser]

You won't see all the quests instantly the first couple hours.

[lyric dawn]

Yep

[tall leaf]

Thanks. I will relay all of this to my Alliance.

[stoic trellis]

Refreshed alll night since reset
No regular 210 quests for us, only 210 ‘?’

[jolly geyser]

I'm gonna take a nap soon. But I'll keep an eye out

[tall leaf]

Same with FTA Hela

[jolly geyser]

Someone did show a picture up above somewhere

[old inlet]

Saw that one but I thought you had it already so I didn't post.

You do have it already.

[lyric dawn]

Yes I have it my t9 snuckily stole it lol

[old inlet]

Feels like craft nanos is my new 3.25m troop might quest where I get way too damn many of them 😂

[lyric dawn]

🤣

These quests may be deadly now

[grim pebble]

Does anyone know if they got rid of hero frag task in showdown

[old inlet]

No they didn't.

[grim pebble]

Haven't seen one yet was hoping they didn't. Thank you

[grim pebble]

Thank god. 😊

[old inlet]

Lucky~ I need 4 or 5 total for what I want to do with hero frags today lol.

I haven't got a single one on my 3 accounts yet.

oop got one on my mini!

[left mortar]

Will be nice if we able to get a updated list of quest and points

[lyric dawn]

I'm working on it man gotta be patient lol

[old inlet]

You can help by helping blue fill out the spreadsheet.

This one #⚔alliance-showdown message

[echo shadow]

136 pt stamina quest is now 720 stamina rather than 1000

[lyric dawn]

Stam quests are definitely lower that's nice

[old inlet]

Nice. They were unreasonably high before.

[lyric dawn]

I still would recommend lairs over stam. But stam consume is great during monster events

[ocean gulch]

Any good ideas what quests for a farm to do instead of transport? I have a couple of small accounts I just use for showdown, so apart from diamonds and hero frags they'll struggle to do much else. transport quests weren't great value but they were easy for a weak farm to do

[lyric dawn]

75 helps for 210
15 mystery shop for 210
Lairs quests
Gather quests like good little farms are supposed to do
Arena
Uhhhhhh.... brain broke

[ocean gulch]

thanks will keep an eye out for those

[lyric dawn]

No worries

[zenith cipher]

Thankyou for sharing my whole alliance didn't get that so we were worried

[pale jay]

Also 240pt speed ups farms never really use them lol

[vernal oasis]

I am sorry didnt read previous msgs maybe someone already said this
But is there nano craft in personal quests?

[jolly geyser]

Yes

[vernal oasis]

Thank you 😊

[jolly geyser]

Think it's craft 20

[old inlet]

Craft 20 and 1m nano materials.

[shadow dome]

These are the personal tasks I met so far:

*Training speedup (20d)
*Craft 20 Nano weapons
*Get 1mill pts in Nano material
Buy 15 boxes
Hero frags (1mill pts)
Speedup (T/B/R) (20d)
*Gain 10k diamonds via packs (down from 18k)
Spend 100k diamonds
*Get 1mill pts in bioenhancers
*Get 1mill pts in modifiers

The ones with * have changed or are new.
Any others out there?

[jolly geyser]

Yeah

[old inlet]

1m bio

[shadow dome]

Ok, Ty. Will add that

[slate robin]

ㅡ

[jolly geyser]

?

[old inlet]

No it's ??????

[shadow dome]

[old inlet]

10 seconds to disappointment.

Disappointed. Another craft 20 nanos ~_~

Still no hero quests 😭

[shadow dome]

More like disappointing to craft 20 green radars 😐

[old inlet]

I'll settle for just a single one. Just want to buy these Eve frags. I can save all these coins and cards for later.

[viral elbow]

I got 17, managed to get 2 blues and a purple 🙌🏻

[old inlet]

I didn't do the craft nano, but I did craft like 10. Actually got 4 rares and 2 uncommons 😂

[zinc helm]

I crafted 4 weapons back to back of the same one for the twins and got their drone Epic ☺️

[dense oasis]

Same with me. I already keep resetting the quest every 30 mins since reset and still no hero quest. All other quest already show up. Really weird. Seems like they reduce the probability of hero quest.

[proud stirrup]

Wish put food back in the arena

[bold isle]

Get 1.5mill in modifications

[dense oasis]

Yeah, this is also important. Giving serum is insane

Is wali hero's card still does not give any point for ace commander's quest?

[old inlet]

No points.

[coarse jetty]

👍

[dense oasis]

How about perfect frag? Do we get point for using it? Or still like old time, only when we get it.

[old inlet]

Only getting them.

[shy dagger]

#📖guide-library message
Hopefully someone finds it useful, its not finished completely, i need to adjust and will repost it in a few days. But for now maybe it will help

[idle saddle]

Hello, is it possible that there are no more transport tasks in the Alliance Showdown? We got this question from some states.😳

[junior apex]

Thank you! Do you have a text version for translations?

[scarlet hatch]

Taking away transport quests is a very dirty move, many f2p and specially farms used those to get a few points

[shadow dome]

That a personal quest?

[bold isle]

Yup

[pale jay]

My 3 farms still doing okay lol

Speed up quests are easy just reset buildings and rebuild

[chrome plaza]

Has anyone seen alliance coin quests? Are they gone like transport? Or have I just not seen them yet?

[pale jay]

Gone also

[plush sequoia]

How do I do this quest please

[chrome plaza]

Use 8 days and 8hrs worth of training speedups

So far you've done 1 day & 19 hours

[plush sequoia]

Ty

[shut bramble]

This is the question that I had too... I have so many saved up just for this!

[white oasis]

Hi
Do anyone know, If I leave my alliance in time of event for example 12h and come back, I am still ok to claim rewards?

[shut bramble]

Can't say for 100% since update, but in the past it's been fine to leave and come back. Just make sure that you've completed any quests already accepted.

[shut bramble]

I've had this happen in previous showdowns before - reset every 30 min of every waking hour and no hero quests until after hero day was over. So, I don't think this is due to the new update, just terrible luck. There's always at least one person in alliance chat who can't seem to get a hero quest 😕

[uneven shuttle]

Is it confirmed that they still have personal hero quest?

[white oasis]

@shut bramble thank you

[muted scarab]

They should make perfect frags to give points when used rather than acquiring. Some save them for events. They have done their money grab man, let us just enjoy the game without spending thousands of dollars anymore. Also bring back gathering for ace day 1

[minor ledge]

yes

[uneven shuttle]

Ty

[sage prism]

승성, 강화 이벤트 포인트를 전과 같이 돌려주세요.
방사능땅 이벤트도 전과같이 일주일에 두번을 원한다.
만약 불가능하다면 보상금을 두 배로 올려주세요.
지휘센터36 미만도 건물버프를 원합니다.

[white oasis]

Just got a quest with hero

[jolly geyser]

Awesome

[inner sandal]

Gathering for Ace day one interferes with VC and is probably the only good change with this update, although it should still be its own day.

Not sure if this has been reported already, but modification quests require HQ 25

Understandable for cube quests, but not for this

[lyric dawn]

That's still funny to me lol

[jolly geyser]

I don't even know

@lyric dawn I didn't see this on your list

[lyric dawn]

Yee

Imma get a cup of coffee and start organizing what I do have to give an update later

[scarlet hatch]

All troop, tech and build are speed ups now, kinda redundant with the pure speed up quest

[lyric dawn]

Yea we addressed that last night how everything went speedup but they gave us some decent quick easy quests

[vital drift]

Did they do away with help quests too? I know they removed transports and ally coins

[scarlet hatch]

I've seen help quests, only the low ones, but I think they still around

[lyric dawn]

No lots of help options.

[vital drift]

Ah okay, thank you. We haven't seen any pop up and several smallers are really struggling

[scarlet hatch]

Which ones? Haven't seen anything decent added, all the nano, modify, bio seem quite costly

[lyric dawn]

The 75 for 210 are great quests I see them flying out

[lyric dawn]

15 mystery shops for 210
75 helps for 210
35 helps for 150

This is a small list from my above I can remember but they have lessened the load alot on some quests and upped points on others

[cosmic heron]

I see you guys screwed up showdown like all the other events….. now everything is speed ups after speed ups…. All PNS wants is money guess they gotta make up for 335 not spending

[scarlet hatch]

210 and 150 are from the question marks, right? Not an option for many players

[lyric dawn]

No

210 option on my t9

[scarlet hatch]

Interesting, haven't seen any yet

[lyric dawn]

We have had an overflow of these quests coming in

[scarlet hatch]

Well, lucky you

[trail bay]

This is ridiculous! You have to be HQ25 to take a 240 point quest now. WTF

Thats how I finished my quests on my minis

[echo shadow]

Oh wow

[lyric dawn]

Could that possibly be due to all the people getting mad that were little that they kept accidentally accepting those lol

[thin torrent]

I always thought it waa BS that you had to be 25 to take a get cube material quest, yet we won cube material in Ruins, and could open cube material from choice boxes, and were able to be tasked with cube quest via mystery quest.

[echo shadow]

I’ve seen no conduct research quests. Where it’s just doing a certain number. Maybe craft nanos replaced it

[cosmic summit]

Come on man lol🤣

[lyric dawn]

Listen I not even kidding I've seen that complaint alot lol

[wooden lintel]

I only know 1star nanoweapon enhance material. Do we really have 2stars above?? Anyone can help me bout this?

[old inlet]

I don't think they exist (yet).

[wraith warren]

So they eliminate the free transport quests. In exchange for nano and modifiers ( which your HQ has to be 25 to accept)

[wooden lintel]

So this quest is a scam. Lol

[old inlet]

No? They just used the same template from the other material quests. There's still plenty of 1-star material to get.

[old inlet]

They also increased the points and decreased the requirements for other free quests like helps, mystery shop, quiz, etc.

[lyric dawn]

And gave us 75 help quests for 210, 15 mystery shop for 210, 35 helps for 150,

Honestly what they did with Showdown is fantastic we've been asking for so long

[wraith warren]

We who no one in my alliance is smiling about the changes

[old inlet]

They're not looking hard enough.

[jolly geyser]

My alliance demeander hasn't changed

Some how at 30k already

[lyric dawn]

@wraith warren please read these and tell me how it's unfair

Showdown has been out dated for soooooooooooo long

We got so much new that it's about time I can do showdown with the newer stuff

[jolly geyser]

Agree

[boreal delta]

So hero quest are officially gone from showdown?

[jolly geyser]

I've had 5

[boreal delta]

I haven’t seen any

[jolly geyser]

Luck of the draw

[lyric dawn]

Just transports and alliance coins

Aren't seen

[old inlet]

Other folks are probably taking them very quickly since it's hero day and it's easy points that overlap.
Unless you're talking about personal quests. Then I think it's slightly less likely because they added 3 new personal quests. Don't know if they removed any.

[honest pike]

I’ve had one hero personal and one under a mystery quest. I just say the lower point one pop up too.

[thorn bramble]

For any updating lists, I got a 210 ? That was 1125 AP

[honest pike]

I like the new quests for nano, bio, and modification. The personal quests of those are definitely going to take planning for ftp and moderate spenders. I’d say modification was the easiest for me to complete because of the ruins and boxes I had. Rare earth would also help but I’m a little low there so I didn’t use any. Getting nano materials is going to be tough with the decrease in events giving those items (Alliance Trials specifically). I think these quests allow players who’ve reached that part of the game to have Showdown quests that might benefit them more than some of the others and they’re also a reflection in the changes in the game.

I would like to see the return of transport, with some better points. I’ve never liked them because the point values were low and when you’re small it takes forever to transport rss. BUT I’ve used them successfully to teach new players how to complete quests and they’re good for farms and when a player is pushing a build. I don’t see a reason to remove alliance coins, either. I feel like more options for players don’t hurt.

I’ve had a few teammates point out that troop might is better when there’s fast comeback and that tech might is better when players have military 2 research. If there’s an opportunity to return some quests, I’d add those to the list with transport and alliance coins.

[honest pike]

Please share. 🤣

[old inlet]

I'd like transport quests back and gather quests removed instead.

[honest pike]

But we can do personal quests? I’ve done a personal on my 24. That’s really odd.

[honest pike]

I love gather. That’s how I started my Showdown life. I also recognize I’m a dork.

[old inlet]

Gathering is free, but unless you're doing the alliance mill and ready to complete the quest when you get it, it takes a lot of time and commitment to complete it.

[honest pike]

Yeah the mill definitely helps, and having the time to do them. They’re not for people who can’t be on regularly to resend.

I’d do way with the lower point gather, to be honest.

[thorn bramble]

Another 210 ? Was 18D training speed up.. thats.. kinda not worth it

[honest pike]

The time commitment for gather should be reflected in the point values.

[old inlet]

Yeah, an entire day+ to do a 176 raw is brutal. Not even possible to get all your points doing that.

[thin torrent]

Was that a regular quest? If so it has been a mystery quest previously

[lyric dawn]

They have question mark as the quest

[thin torrent]

Gotcha, so no change there

[old inlet]

This is brutal. I've refreshed my personal quest every 30 minutes except the 5 hours I slept and I still haven't got a hero quest. It really wants me to craft nanos though 😂

[lyric dawn]

Same

[echo shadow]

That was an old one

[neat jackal]

Is anybody actually had a transport quest, come up yet ?

[frigid eagle]

They seem to have been removed

[neat jackal]

Well that sucks good chance to empty your farms 4 points

[honest pike]

I just got one on my last account. I only had 2 total show up. I decided to take a mystery quest in one account and it happened to be heroes.

[echo shadow]

This is what I have so far...

Showdown Quest Changes

Changes to quests as of July 10, 2023. Will update as new information is shared.

Updated

• Build Might Up > Total Build Speedup
• Tech Might Up > Total Tech Speedup
• Troop Might Up > Total Training Speedup
• 240 pt Gain Diamonds, 18,000 > 10,000 (-8000)
• 104 pt Consume Stamina quest (625 stamina) > 500 stamina (-125)
• 118 pt Consume Stamina quest (375 stamina) > 250 stamina (-175)
• 136 pt Consume Stamina quest (1,000 stamina) > 720 stamina (-280)
• 240 pt mystery quests require HQ 25

Added

• Craft nanoweapons
• Get Nanoweapon Material
• Get Bioenhancer Material
• Get modification materials
• 210 pt Help Allies quest (75)
• 210 pt Mystery Shop quest (15)
• 180 pt Help Allies (50)
• 180 pt Mystery Shop (12)
• 150 pt Help Allies quest (35)
• 150 pt Mystery Shop quest (10)

Removed

• Resource transport
• Spend alliance coins
• Conduct research

Unknown
I don't know if these quests exist, what changes have been made, or what the requirements are to complete them

• None

[jolly geyser]

Thank you azzie

122 mystery exists

I just cleared it.

127 help is the same as 150

[old inlet]

......

[jolly geyser]

Yes?

[old inlet]

Someone posted a screenshot of this channel and tagged at everyone.

[jolly geyser]

I missed it

[lyric dawn]

It's still there

I have that in my spreadsheet

[jolly geyser]

Yeah. I think he was replying to azzie post

[harsh salmon]

Has anyone seen the personal quest for purchase 18k worth of diamonds yet today?

[jolly geyser]

It had changed to 10k diamonds

[harsh salmon]

Still for 240 points?

[jolly geyser]

Yes

[harsh salmon]

Thank you!!!

[old inlet]

Finally got my dang hero quest.

[lyric dawn]

Whoop whoop

[thin torrent]

The 80pt craft nano

[lyric dawn]

Updated

[lyric dawn]

113 build I have seen its 2 days something I'd have to look at my chart

[thin torrent]

The get nano/ bio/ modifiers 113pt requires 240k material, the 120pt requires 360k

[echo shadow]

Thanks!!

[echo shadow]

2 days 12 hours

[lyric dawn]

Yes that i dozed off for a sec there lol

[thin torrent]

Has anyone seen the Arena ones?

[echo shadow]

Yes

[lethal ruin]

Are hero frag quests still in showdown? I haven’t seen 1 yet

[echo shadow]

Yes

[lethal ruin]

Ty

[lyric dawn]

If you scroll up a little you can find quests seen

[thin torrent]

Thank you

Anyone else feel like Bioenhancer is the new Tech might quest? Not many quest scare me or I find impossible but damn after you do prison trials 1x for one quest I'm screwed if I get it again (as a mystery one)

[lyric dawn]

On difficulty scale I would bio up with advanced quests. Tech is now speedup so it may take the cake for hardness but if you hoard like usual and linestuff up maybe not too bad

[wintry plaza]

To be honest I do like the additions and changes to showdown. I just wish they would have left transports and alliance coins in. Players with small hqs and farms are having a hard time right now.

[echo shadow]

We have a few farms in for Showdown specifically, and they seem to be doing okay

[jolly geyser]

A lot of help quests today for the farms and smaller accounts

[cosmic summit]

Yeah right

[gloomy escarp]

Congrats PNS on screwing showdown now as well, transport and alliance coin are no more, what do we get instead more spend bast quests… way to go

[coral walrus]

The game's RNG could use some work.

[gloomy escarp]

The only optimisations made by the game is for revenue streams, try fixing bugs and lag

[lyric dawn]

There's easy peasy quests you don't have to try too hard for. I'm glad transports are not taking up everything

[jolly geyser]

More points with the big abundance of help quests

[lyric dawn]

That too

Normal lairs start at reset so I will be helping with alotta help quests

[jolly geyser]

Yeah. Finally

[echo shadow]

Helps, lairs, AP, GCMC that you've hoarded, hero cards and tavern coins that you've hoarded, gathering, arena, quiz, mystery shop...there are so many options.

Like far be it from me to get in the way of you wanting to be mad, but the updates to quests was DESPERATELY needed and there are still plenty of options for smaller players and non-spenders.

All the speedup quests as well, which you can get for free every day from ruins...

[old inlet]

Feels like it. I had half a dozen craft nanos and diamonds each but only a single hero 😭

[last skiff]

quests timers still need lessening

[echo shadow]

#💭closed-game-suggestions

Has anyone seen the general "gather resources" quest?

And I'm fairly certain conduct research is gone

[lyric dawn]

I haven't seen conduct it probably is gone now that tech is speedup

[turbid helm]

Those were only in ❔ quests.

[turbid helm]

Haven’t seen it outside of personal.

[jolly geyser]

There's a personal conduct?

[echo shadow]

No. They were the ones where it counted the number of times you did research, like 4/6/8

[plucky hedge]

The loss of might based quests sucks imo. Everything is speeds based now.

[jolly geyser]

Noted

[lyric dawn]

It was 1 day and maybe 6 hours I might be wrong but the 1 day I'm for sure about

[echo shadow]

Showdown Charts

This is still a work in progress, but it's up to date based on all the data from various Discord servers. I'll fix whatever errors people find.

Contents

• Current Known Quests
• with suggestions for what to ignore/reset or what is good for f2p or low spend players**
• Current Mystery Quests (known)
• Points Per Item/Quantity Needed
• Thanks @steep summit for getting that started!
• Quest/Events Matchups*
• Change Log

**some things are subjective but hopefully it helps
*being updated

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lVjA152Aw8ZDM6LRSaPod4Ayxoph7_SH3Ccttg72bug/edit?usp=sharing

[lyric dawn]

Ive got my own I'm making too lol

[rancid plinth]

Looking for a simple yes or no but did they get rid of the transport resources quest in showdown?

[lyric dawn]

Yes

[rancid plinth]

Damn thank you

[lyric dawn]

No worries lots of other quests to make up for it

[turbid helm]

As far as I can tell, the only research ones left are the 240 personal ones. No communal research has shown up in any of my alliances.

[jolly geyser]

I've seen research speedups

But not consume

[copper tundra]

yeah but the might seems to be gone

its all speedups

[jolly geyser]

Yup

[fossil plover]

I really like this mystery shop 180 and 210
I'm waiting for that help allies 210 to pop up

[old inlet]

Speedups are easier.

[turbid helm]

Nah, prefer might for training

[jolly geyser]

When it was my t8s. Speedups we're better. Now t9 might would be better

[old inlet]

Speedups are easier*

*except with fast comeback

[pale jay]

Might was definitely easier for tech lol

Especially when you time it correctly like I was waiting for

Had 8 hours left on 1.9m might vs 20d speed up

[old inlet]

It still blows my mind that 1.9m might from a single research exists. Like, that's more than 10% of my total research might from all research up to 29.

17,381,554 for full HQ 29 research.

[jolly geyser]

Gets better with m2

[tepid citrus]

Are transport and alliance coins quests no longer available?

[viral elbow]

No, they've been removed

[tepid citrus]

Thank you 😞😔 those were perfect for the farms!

[high wagon]

Basically all the quests who doesn’t needed money spending are removed…😑😑😑

[jolly geyser]

Hero quests. Lair quests. Mystery shop quests. Gcmg don't take much.

Tons of help quests. With more points

[coral walrus]

If you have enough speedups, resources, and classified bluerprints - just completing half of Mil II is enough for about 200M points in Ace. I look forward to battling you in the T10 tier in April 2024.

[junior apex]

Does anyone know if the exclusive craft wrapons count in the create 10 nano weapon quests in showdown? We are guessing yes but want confirmation before they go for it. Thanks!

[turbid helm]

Still wrong. I can prebuilt 450k might without using a single speedup.

[turbid helm]

Yes. Starting any craft counts.

[junior apex]

Thank you so much!

[turbid helm]

Not a conduct one, but did just find a non personal research quest

[karmic knot]

Mine weapons crafts are not counting properly. They are only counting when I use instant craft. At first I thought it was only after I claimed the weapon, but this morning I claimed 2 and they did not count. Nor did they count when they were initiated. Maybe a bug?

[karmic knot]

I like that speedups count instead of might. I have a 170 days worth of research cooking right now. This option is very helpful.

[turbid helm]

They definitely count when starting a craft. I checked mine yesterday.

[karmic knot]

I will send in a ticket. Thank you

[dense oasis]

With promoter3, modification, and now timed tavern coin. I think it's about time they create a new tier for showdown. Increase the max lvl reward to 35 with reward that such as p3 box, mod box, or timed tavern coin.

[turbid helm]

And this one showed up too

[lyric dawn]

So the 157 speedup quests are 13 days 8 hours. 176 build speedups is the same. So uhhhhhhh the heck. Think very carefully on the better move

[turbid helm]

Lol. Like the 80 and 120 quests needing the same materials to complete 🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[lyric dawn]

Those that are now 8 days and what ever are actually 1 point less than the 121 speedup quest lol

So that's another think wisely moment

[old inlet]

Same with 113/138 and 143/176 quests.

[lyric dawn]

172 is the gather quest equivalent but yea it's kinda turning into a don't be stupid read the quests now

[old inlet]

Yeah that's what I mean.

[turbid helm]

143 vs 172 is quest time. You have more time for the 143s, so easier for smaller accounts to complete

[old inlet]

Shouldn't need 3(?) days to complete a gathering quest that lines up with your alliance mill.

[lyric dawn]

I agree I just took a gather quest and got 1.1m of a 1.44m steel quest done

[turbid helm]

No, but might need more than 1day and some hours. An hq20 with zero nova focus might suck

[lyric dawn]

Imo I tell Littles not to touch gather quests till they do a little ummm research and nova messing with lol

[old inlet]

Maybe, but I don't think anyone should be spending an entire 24h+ on a quest anyway.

Omg I'm starting to actually get annoyed.
I've had literally nothing but nano craft and nano material, 100k diamonds and research speedups for nearly the last 24 hours.

And another nano material...

[lyric dawn]

I am taking 210s I'm lazy lol

[old inlet]

I probably should but I need them for my small account but I usually leave them for the smaller players.

[lyric dawn]

Yeah I probably should too but it was sitting there for a half hour untouched lol

[junior siren]

Can you please bring back the transport and alliance coins quests? Were easier for smaller players… and did not cost anything. Thank you kindly! 🙏

[lyric dawn]

No no no it's so nice they aren't clogging stuff up

There is some great easy new quests they can do

[junior siren]

Lots of players just don’t want to have to spend. We are losing them.

[lyric dawn]

There is so many quests you don't need to spend with

[junior siren]

Wich ones?

[lyric dawn]

Arena, help quest 75 for 210 there is also a new 150 option, mystery shop 15 for 210, probably more

[jolly geyser]

Lairs

[lyric dawn]

Lairs is an amazing 1

184 for 6 of them

Honestly with the changes my farms are doing better

[junior siren]

Transports were the best… why take them out? More possibilities.

[lyric dawn]

It's also. Better and and more better quests for Littles now im enjoying it

[vernal oasis]

With these new changes, only the ones that don’t wanna do quests wont do them
This event has never been easier

[still bane]

They took out the transport quests cuz they cost nothing. Everything else could be done spending money basically

[lyric dawn]

When I saw some of the higher quests I got excited. Especially the 75 helps for 210 it meant that I can help my little main do quests for easy no problems and quick

I run 4 of me and for once they did something right

[vernal oasis]

LoL

[vernal oasis]

Very true. It is very easy even for farms

[lyric dawn]

My babies having a field day lol tbh I was taking the 175 mystery shop quests for high points but now we got a 210 option for less that's a win in my book

[vernal oasis]

Yes yes, we had some ms 210 today as well
Over all its awesome

[lyric dawn]

I'm jumping for joy lol

[maiden moth]

Can you pin this?

[lyric dawn]

No she cant she's not an adult

[vernal oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/maybe-betty-white-who-knows-shrug-rose-nylund-gif-24669580

[echo shadow]

Nope I can’t. Not a mod.

[maiden moth]

They took your power away?! I'll fight them 😡

[echo shadow]

No I quit last October 😂

[jolly geyser]

She got her sanity back

[echo shadow]

Questionable

I’m still playing

[maiden moth]

Ahh damn I'm late as hell then

[echo shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/its-okay-its-okay-baby-yoda-gif-21232706

[old inlet]

Continuing for over 24 hours (minus the 4 hours I slept).
And to top it all off, I accidentally accepted the 32 mystery shop quest as a misclick and no way in hell am I spending time on that so I guess I'll just be at 3120 13/14 at the end.

[echo shadow]

@runic belfry someone asked if a mod can pin this pls and thanks

[runic belfry]

[echo shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/spelivia-spencer-james-olivia-baker-layla-keating-all-american-gif-22045935

[runic belfry]

It's juicey box time!!!

[tropic terrace]

Bummer it won't work for me

[echo shadow]

Hmm. Not sure why. I see 2 people looking at it right now.

[tropic terrace]

It just says no connection.

I'll figure it out im sure. Technology sucks sometimes

[jolly geyser]

I just looked. Worked fine

[tropic terrace]

It's definitely me

I had to copy the link into a new browser. This is AWESOME

[old inlet]

Omg. 30+ hours of nothing but nano diamond and research quests.... then I pop all my timed tavern coins and then immediately get back to back hero quests.

[shadow dome]

Alliance coins not in this time?

[jolly geyser]

Not anymore

[shadow dome]

Urgh, ok ty

[plush sequoia]

Hello everyone, this is Main I need to get 1 million hero fragments?

[shy dagger]

When you hit the " i " button on the quest you have a " How to earn pts " overview at quests 😊

[jolly geyser]

50 5 star hero frags would complete it

[frosty rampart]

Really miss the transport quests and alliance coin!! Very upsetting! Half of our alliance depended on the transport to get their points. 😭😭 So not enjoying all these new event changes, except the build and research speed ups! 😂😂 But everything else just kinda sucks.

[ember atlas]

So there’s no more transport quests at all?

[scarlet hatch]

Nope

[lyric dawn]

These are showdown changes we been tryna get for awhile the ones that thrive off transporting have them do the 210 for 75 helps or mystery shop 210 for 15. There is alot better quests now

[frosty rampart]

Your opinions. My opinions 🙂 we liked the transports.

[lyric dawn]

They were pointless took up the whole showdown board ironically my littles are doing better without em and the the 4 accounts

[frosty rampart]

Again.. I don't see it like that. And I miss them. some of our alliance lived off them and got their points that way... My opinion. Not a debate.

[lyric dawn]

And imo they were lazy quests lol now we got better lazy quest

[turbid helm]

I loved transport quests too

[brave bough]

I think they sku it one way or the other with updates. I have no problem with them adding quests, but to take away easy ones was not fair either. I have reset our board every 1/2 an hour and it has not come up with any hero and no mystery.... Or one here and there. It has however come up with multiple of the same bio and nano that no one in my small alliance feels they can complete. We are so low on completed tasks this round and for the people that have already lost interest with them taking away weekly events it's just more of a morale downer.

[lyric dawn]

Weirdo too little of points for easy lol

[turbid helm]

Might as well get points for something I’m doing anyway 🤷‍♂️

[lyric dawn]

Oh I know my problem with them was there was too many of them

[turbid helm]

There were never enough of them. Lol

[lyric dawn]

We always had too many I was deleting em all day long cause people weren't taking up and they clogged everything🤣

[scarlet hatch]

Just like the nano and bio are clogging everything now

[turbid helm]

Yeah, seeing a lot of those ones lingering.

[scarlet hatch]

At least transport ones were doable

[turbid helm]

Strange. Those were the hot demand ones and taken before you could blink

[lyric dawn]

Not with us holy crap they were never taken

See if there was a quest balance of you dont see 1 more than the other I wouldn't of cared but they bugged me lol

[scarlet hatch]

There were many crap transport quest, I'll give you that, but the 126 points were good, they could've kept those

They should just get rid of all those 80 and 113 points quests

[lyric dawn]

I agree the trap quests are annoying

[turbid helm]

Yeah, we automatically delete all of those.

This is our standard R4 instructions for showdown.

[lyric dawn]

I'm glad someone else feels the same about healing quests

[turbid helm]

They are horrible!!
I see some messages in state chat asking for tile hits for showdown quest. All I can think is WHY WOULD YOU TAKE THAT QUEST!?!

The points are so low. The rss needed are high. The speedups used is stupid. Complete waste!

[lyric dawn]

I'm a huge I would never ask anyone to injure them selves for points

I can understand when we have TOS but I hate heal quests

[turbid helm]

Need them for trials? Sure. But showdown? Man, think harder 🤦‍♂️

[lyric dawn]

Yepppppp

I would of been more ok with them control alt deleting heal quests

[turbid helm]

https://tenor.com/view/ctrl-alt-del-em-reve-ctrl-alt-delete-song-control-alt-delete-them-get-rid-of-them-gif-23195321

[frosty rampart]

Exactly!! 😂 It was Soo easy and didn't need ppl on.. here lemme help you with that building upgrade for your quest with 12/18mil food or wood! They were great. Really miss the transport quests.

[frosty rampart]

Same!! It really sucks. We have so many nano/Bio that ppl in my alliance are asking us to delete.

[old inlet]

Am I reading this right? The 120 is worse than the 113? 113 is usually bad and the same as a 138 (gathering).

@lyric dawn did you document this?

[lyric dawn]

Yes I did

I was quite shocked looking at it

[old inlet]

I feel bad now because I told an r4 to delete it.

They tried to double trick us with that one.

[lyric dawn]

The training, build and researches are all like this

There's another catch

[turbid helm]

Wait! What?!

[lyric dawn]

121 speedup quest gives 1 more point than the 120 for the same time

Where as the 176 build, train and tech is better than the 157 speedup quest for same time

[turbid helm]

They will “improve” these next showdown 🤦‍♂️

[lyric dawn]

I've been watching quests and some of yhe 113s are no longer crap

[old inlet]

Dangit

[lyric dawn]

This contains some of the 113s to prove this I'm not completely done transferring and organizing

[old inlet]

Is the pinned spreadsheet complete?

[lyric dawn]

It might be but I don't use Google docs

Thpugh

[old inlet]

So that means the 121 (8d8h) generic speedup is bad too? Or do they all require more to complete because it's generic instead of specific?

[lyric dawn]

Yes 121 I think is set at that cause you can use all the types

Which makes sense but for 120 to need the same for specific seems odd

[old inlet]

Mmkay.

I'll have to look through all this when it's over and come up with a whole new set of daily guides for alliance main ~.~

[echo shadow]

I don't understand the issue. It's using more speedups in the same amount of time, so more points. It makes sense.

[old inlet]

They're nearly identical in points and traditionally the 113-point quests were worse.

[echo shadow]

But it's still technically more points, so it's not ridiculous that one takes more speedups. I'd still rather do 120 points than 113. We failed to complete a showdown once by 11 points. Don't underestimate that extra 7.

I guess I just don't understand why it's so tricky lol it makes sense to me

And yes my document reflects the difference

[next vale]

Personal quests either change or vary from person to person. The modifier material personal quest was 1.2m points required for an alliance member, but it popped up as 1.5m points required for me

[scarlet hatch]

But this time the 113 is more costly effective than the 120, it's more about how much are you willing to spend for a bit more points

[flat flower]

Is there an official post listing what changes have been made to the Alliance Showdown tasks? I looked in patch notes and bulletins, and scrolled up a bit through this thread. But I really don’t have time for this! 😅

[jolly geyser]

#⚔alliance-showdown message

At least gives a list of what quests we have now

[echo shadow]

Updated it this morning from Kris’s input about certain quests being HQ-locked.

[slow burrow]

Please bring back the transport quests!

[echo shadow]

#💭closed-game-suggestions

This channel is for discussion and help. Requests like that go to the suggestions channel.

[quartz gale]

Is there a chance someone can screen shot the Google doc quests please ive tried to look at it and it won't load it up and keeps saying no connection but my connection is fine my phone doesn't like Google docs

[plush sequoia]

I was doing the steel gathering quest yesterday. Right before I finished. My quest ended with failure and I still had two days to complete. Does anyone know why?

[old inlet]

New showdown setup is an improvement overall imo. My farm spent $0 and only did free quests or quests that lined up with ace and it's at 2276 11/11 and I still have 3 more quests to do.
Where I felt the biggest struggle was on my main doing all 240s. I spent a lot of time resetting quests to get ones that weren't either of the nanos (I did 1 of the nano material to open allaince trial boxes), research or spend diamonds. It took me until today to finish then and even then I had to do training quests. I would've preferred to save my training speedups for new development or at least fast comeback.

[jolly geyser]

Did you leave the alliance at all

[grand stratus]

Showdown get bioenhancer material quest doesntwork with bioenhancer organs?? Only with bioenhancer shard?? Please help

[lyric dawn]

Have you clicked the question mark to see?

Exclamation mark to see the points per each

[grand stratus]

I checked that nothing about organs that not work with my logic

And thank for the screenshot

[jolly geyser]

So what am I looking at

[grand stratus]

I think exactly zero rss😂

[grand stratus]

Someone answer this

[old inlet]

An organ is worth 100 shards.

[violet vector]

Seems like that's a bug and only work with shards. So if you are going to get an organ from choice box be sure you already have it in bag so game will give you 100 shards instead.
That's still my suggestion though, based on what people reported

[scarlet hatch]

Doesn't seem to be a bug, looks intentional to me

On the bio BL there's organs listed too

[past fern]

Ya you guys can put showdown back to the way it was um thanks! Cool you added new stuff but don’t take away the old tasks!

[echo shadow]

#💭closed-game-suggestions nobody in charge is here or reads this channel

But also I don’t want it back the way it was lol. They can put a couple things back but I’d like to keep the new stuff.

[barren flax]

WE NEED RSS TRANSPORT QUEST BACK OR WE WILL REVOLT ALTOGETHER AND NOT PLAY EVENT

[shy dagger]

Dont scream at me, im sensitive 🫣 you can suggest it into #💭closed-game-suggestions so mods can put it into their reports... here no pns official will see it 🫣🍀

[jolly geyser]

It will be okay falla

🤗

[old inlet]

Transport quests can kick rocks now that they added more free high point quests.

[lyric dawn]

Agreed I've never gotten this many points on my littles

[queen drum]

I haven't missed transport quests, tbh. Even my little didn't do them except for the last one before the alliance left the state so I could get rss below warehouse.
I do like the bioenhancer and nano ones. Gives me a reason the hoard something else 🤣

[jolly geyser]

Welcome back

[old inlet]

I spent less time and resources on this than before. It's much better (still have 1 more quest to do)

[queen drum]

Thank you.

[cosmic summit]

Okay cool

[gaunt tinsel]

Where did all the transport quests go?!!!! What have you done with the Showdown!!????

[cosmic anvil]

Transport and alliance coin quests haven't appeared in showdown this week.

[lyric dawn]

They are gone and I don't miss em lol

[echo shadow]

They cluttered my board. I’m glad they’re gone.

Too many replacement quests were provided that are easy to be pissed about transport quests being removed

You can’t recruit in here it’s against #📚sanctuary-rules

Go to #✅alliances-seeking-players

[lyric dawn]

I've seen more good and feedback about Littles thriving more with the changes tbh. Alot of the quests make it possible to thrive as a little. Tbh makes the burnout not too bad cause I can get 210 for 75 helps lol

[cosmic anvil]

My HQ 24 was unable to claim this 150 ? Quest, said I needed to be HQ25+. I'm assuming that it's a cube quest? Thought it was interesting, not entirely sure if bug. I was able to claim a different 150 ? Quest and it was heroes. So I guess the ? Quests are set by the game BEFORE you accept them, which is quite interesting.

[lyric dawn]

Interesting nice way to know you won't get screwed by a quest lol

[brave bough]

I've seen the opposite and not just from littles.

[lyric dawn]

I've still seen more good than bad. Over a year asking for this update they did good. Also ace showdowns always sucks balls

I'm averaging more than other ace showdowns

[old inlet]

I've only seen that complaint from littles that didn't have the right guidance or mindset in the first place.

[brave bough]

Don't mind them adding new stuff but taking away the other has totally not done good for our alliance... Quite the opposite and quite a bit of the others in my state that I've talked to feel the same.

I actually have seven quests left on one of my personalities and I am not doing anymore 😂

[old inlet]

My baby account spent basically no time and 0 resources aside from what I'd normally spend on regular ace missions and got nearly 3k points.

[lyric dawn]

This is for my alliance have i missed anything. Im thinking it's mostly Stamina quests

[lyric dawn]

Tbh it's the leaders fault not doing research to guide. The 150, 180s and 210 adds are great for Littles. The helps and mysteries have been amazing. Modification quests are now becoming a new favorite. 24 mod boxes to finish a 176. Ummm crafting nanos was great on my 1 account that hoard too much. I actually prefer there being no transports knowing we have no high pointed quests that suit the lazier and cant do much folks.

[brave bough]

I'm not little but okay 😂

[lyric dawn]

Read before assuming

I didn't say just littles

[brave bough]

And actually no it's the game's fault for making us lose interest to begin with so when they changed showdown half of the people don't even want to make the effort... But maybe you shouldn't assume that the leader didn't do what they were supposed 🤷🏻‍♀️

[lyric dawn]

Oh well sucks to suck

They are more than generous with the new quests

[brave bough]

Anyways not here to debate I was just saying that it's funny that you guys are all saying that you've seen more positive but I haven't seen that and I have talked to quite a few other alliances. That was just my input I don't like to argue especially about opinions... Especially when I said that I don't mind them adding new stuff

[turbid helm]

🤔 I’ve complained about the lack of transport quests too

[lyric dawn]

Here going forward you can now work harder knowing the quests

[lyric dawn]

I just called you weird and ignore that

[old inlet]

It still sucks they're gone but it didn't absolutely destroy showdown like some folks are saying.

[turbid helm]

My alliance is down 10% in points. My farms are down 40% in points.

[lyric dawn]

This. It also helped push people outside their comfort zone and try harder. This is the most I've seen alot of our guys at 1k or higher

[old inlet]

Sounds like your alliance needs to get with the times.
My current and old alliance are at the same amount of points and my old old alliance is 10% higher even after losing some folks to migration.

[lyric dawn]

They still should of yeeted the heal quests too

[old inlet]

Yeah those are mega trash

[echo shadow]

hmmmm

Healing quests are only ezpz if you have a lot in your infirmary from WK, like if you filled it with taxis prior.

[lyric dawn]

My issue is I don't want people injuring themselves for the heal quests unless they have them

[echo shadow]

So I was able to take a ? 240 on my HQ16. Definitely seems like they've just locked quests if they're above what's available at your HQ, so they're pre-set like Carley said.

[lyric dawn]

That's interesting so its cubes that's hq locked and I saw a couple other ones hq locked too

[thick yarrow]

Sooooo....WTAF!!!!???

You add nano quests to Showdown and remove a weekly Alliance Trial???? ....The main source of nano materials?

WTAF!!!!????

This is an absolute BS money grab!

Fah-Q!

https://tenor.com/view/eminem-middle-finger-gif-25315518

[jolly geyser]

Next update. Be ready

[thick yarrow]

For what?

[jolly geyser]

Them to change back alliance trials.

[thick yarrow]

Have them send the Nano boxes now then.... 100 diamonds is not compensation

[jolly geyser]

Yeah. I'll let them know

[thick yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/eminem-marshall-mathers-slim-shady-middle-finger-gif-15998843

[jolly geyser]

Why flick me off

[thick yarrow]

You spoke to soon...

Not meant at you

[jolly geyser]

Lol. Ok

[thick yarrow]

What's this?

[jolly geyser]

Popularity

[thick yarrow]

Strikes?

[jolly geyser]

Good things

[thick yarrow]

Ok...lol... thought I was in trouble

I'll go away now

[jolly geyser]

I'd be in a lot of trouble then

[echo shadow]

Dude that changed...weeks ago

[thick yarrow]

Thanks Dude!

Would this be the first Showdown since dude?

Or not?

Either way.... thanks for contributing to the conversation dude!

[gaunt tinsel]

Guess they should have just added and not removed so everybody is happy 😅😅😅

[somber sundial]

I don’t think it was about making anyone happy except the company that has revenue from the game. They said changes were made due to player request but I highly doubt that. Kinda like how they blame Nova or Fox when the developers make a mistake. We know it’s BS. They are just getting greedy and pushing the heck out of micro-sales. Its rather annoying in my opinion because my time is valuable and if I am willing to put lots of time into the game (which I do) I should be rewarded or have the opportunity to earn decent rewards without having to always pay. Now if you dont want to put in the time and want to use money as a shortcut then great - this is how the game should operate but they won’t see it until its too late and they will have already killed the game. They already lost their top spenders, they quit because they didn’t like all changes.

[echo shadow]

There are still plenty of top spenders and they added a lot of easy quests that require no spending in place of the two everyone keeps asking about

[lyric dawn]

Showdown change was a MAJOR player request to update it. It's been put of date for a long time. For little, farms and lower spenders the new 150, 180 and 210 quests will be fantastic

Only took almost a year for it lol

[carmine breach]

Can we collect the rewards today or do we have to wait ?

[turbid helm]

You can collect them today, tomorrow, and the day after. After that, they are gone forever 😬

[carmine breach]

Thanks. There is no special event tomorrow for which we need to wait ?

[lyric dawn]

Not anymore

[old inlet]

Nope, they moved refiners to day 4 so you can no longer double dip.

[carmine breach]

Thanks à lot !

[turbid helm]

Many of the schedule changes seem specially designed to reduce doubling up.

[lyric dawn]

It wouldn't shock me if that was their intentions all along for this mess of patch notes

[sour slate]

Like the move of Diamond expert away from VC…can no longer count the diamonds from speedups and ports for the Diamond event…

[turbid helm]

You can, if you wait a painful 14 hours to VC.
I did not and burned 16k diamonds within the first couple hours of VC 😁

[sour slate]

True one can wait but I’m not patient 😂 the first couple hours are usually fun and catch some unshielded and invaders at the beginning

[somber sundial]

Shoot they wrote the book on double dipping into our cash…they should let us double dip and regularly especially if we have the patience to save things to use on the right days…instead of just using things as we get them or as issued.

[potent oyster]

I’m missing the transport quests. Please activate them next time.

[echo shadow]

#💭closed-game-suggestions go here. It makes it easier for mods. Nobody in charge reads these channels.

[steep summit]

Showdown Quests:
A quick reference guide

113 pts quests
113 pts gear/mod etc…
Need 40,000 pts
10 promoter 3s (10 of the 5 red star boxes)
All other promo boxes, need 40 boxes

113 pts get heroes
Need 240,000 pts
12 5 star cards/hero frags
30 4 star cards/hero frags
120 3 star cards/hero frags
480 2 star hero frags

120 pts quests
120 pts gear/mod etc…
Need 200,000 pts
All promo boxes, need 20 boxes
Gears, promo 3 boxes, need 5 boxes

120 pts bioenhancer
Need 360,000 pts
18 apex shards
36 super shards
90 advanced shards
360 intermediate shards
1,800 basic shards
3,600 organ stimulant

120 pts mod choice material
Need 540,000 pts
18 gear lock (18 boxes)
18 mod choice boxes

120 pts nano material
Need 360,000 pts
18 5 star enhance material
72 4 star enhance material
180 3 star enhance material
720 2 star enhance material
3,600 1 star enhance material (36 weapon material boxes)
360 weapon promo one (36 boxes)
72 weapon promo two (36 boxes)

120 pts get heroes
Need 120,000 pts
6 5 star cards/hero frags
15 4 star cards/hero frags
60 3 star cards/hero frags
240 2 star hero frags

176 pts quests
176 pts gear/mod etc…
Need 800,000 pts
All promo boxes, need 80 boxes
Gears, promo 3 boxes, need 20 boxes

176 pts mod choice material
Need 720,000 pts
24 boxes gear lock (720,000/30,000=24 boxes)
24 boxes mods: 1 box gives 10 mods
(3,000 per mod = 30,000 per box)

176 pts nano materials
Need 480,000 pts
24 5 star enhance material
96 4 star enhance material
240 3 star enhance material
960 2 star enhance material
4,800 1 star enhance material (48 weapon material boxes)
480 promo 1 material (48 boxes)
96 promo 2 material (48 boxes)

176 pts get heroes
Need 480,000 pts
24 5 star cards/hero frags
60 4 star cards/hero frags
240 3 star cards/hero frags
960 2 star hero frags

240 pts quests
240 pts bioenhancer
Need 1,000,000 pts
50 apex shards
100 super shards
250 advanced shards
1000 intermediate shards
5000 basic shards
10,000 organ stimulant

240 pts mod material
Need 1,500,000 pts
50 gear locks (50 boxes)
50 mod choice boxes

240 pts get heroes
Need 1,000,000 pts
50 5 star cards/hero frags
125 4 star cards/hero frags
500 3 star cards/hero frags
2,000 2 star hero frags

[lyric dawn]

Your missing beautiful 150, 180s and 210 quests lol

[steep summit]

No, I only did the ones that use boxes or hero cards/frags

The rest are self explanatory 🤷🏻‍♀️😂

[lyric dawn]

🤣

I know I was picking

[lyric dawn]

That's why mine is just a rough draft currently lol

[echo shadow]

Yeah but nbd to change the picture if needed since it's all in a sheet anyway

[steep summit]

Yours is way more comprehensive than mine. 😂

[echo shadow]

I can't really take credit; I just put compiled data together. I updated one that was posted a long time ago that hadn't been updated in forever lol. Plus used the information posted here and elsewhere.

[steep summit]

I actually mathed mine 😂

But maybe you can add the info to yours?

[grand stratus]

👀

[echo shadow]

It's a Google Sheet, so I could probably just add a tab to it with the information. Trying to fit it all in one image would be too hard to do, and overwhelming.

[steep summit]

Hmmm, maybe make a separate sheet? Spreadsheets are my enemy, which is why it’s typed up not in document form 😂

[echo shadow]

I think you made a mistake in the way you wrote out the points needed for GCMC quests...for example, you need 200,000 points for 120 pt quests. Is it that promo 2s are worth 20,000?

Because you have it that you need 20,000 for 120 pt quest

[steep summit]

No, it’s just a typo 🤦🏻‍♀️

[willow forge]

is showdown the next week already?

it seems so soon

[mystic dirge]

Yes and YES

[woeful sorrel]

So this is confirmed … seems so soon

[calm nexus]

Hi all,
From what of hq is the event available?

[jolly geyser]

I think it's 15

[echo shadow]

Yep

[echo shadow]

It’s every 3 weeks

[woeful sorrel]

Thx dear

[restive light]

Thank you for this, Rockstar! 💖 🌷 These 240's are all of the personal quests, correct? I'm not ready for showdown again already 😓

[echo shadow]

Yeah they're all personal

I am also not ready but I never am lol

[old inlet]

Love the work and it's so helpful. Looks like everything I care about for points is there except the 101-point consume 3000 diamonds quest. I'm 98% certain it was there post-update but that was so many, many moons ago I can't be certain.

[echo shadow]

I’ll have to see this time. I pulled a lot of it from an old chart that didn’t have it, but it had to have been added after the original was made so I may have missed adding it.

[old inlet]

Mmkay. If I see it I'll post a pic and tag you?

[lyric dawn]

That quest is still there I got it on my chart from friends as I was creating mine

[old inlet]

Updated my ace guide so I'll post it here when I can get back on my desktop. Gotta watch bluey with the toddler 😂

[knotty crest]

Could you please bring back transport quests also, last time they were way too many pop-ups of nano even people that drop tons of money on this game or like damn

[old inlet]

We can't do anything. Contact CS and post in #💭closed-game-suggestions
Just gotta keep resetting quests. There's plenty of other fantastic free ones like thr big point help and mystery shop quests. Arena, lair, gathering from alliance mill, etc.

[atomic cypress]

Does a player need to be in the alliance before the event starts to participate? Or can they switch to a new alliance and still participate

[lyric dawn]

10 minutes before reset

[old inlet]

@lyric dawn How do you feel about these? Anything I missed? Input?

If your alliance didn't meet showdown points last time or you need a refresher, here's something I wrote up to help my new state's alliance meet their goals. Each block of text can be copied and pasted to alliance mails. Better done on desktop since it's easier.
Do you want 90k diamonds? We all do, but we all must put in the work for alliance showdown. Reaching 150k points gets us there.
They made some changes from the previous iteration of showdown and we've had one event to experience them.
Transport and alliance quests are no longer available, and they've added nanoweapon and bioenhancer quests. To make up for this, they made some types significantly better. They converted some of the mystery quests (180 and 210 point) into regular quests and they're fantastic. Help allies and mystery shop. Low requirement with high rewards.
They also changed all might up quests to speedup quests. This is a net positive to everyone except those with Military II research.
The minimum point requirement will be 1500 points per person. We don’t have the full 100 players, but some of us will be doing more than 1500 points anyway. This is achievable even by f2p players and farms.

I’ll be sharing tips on how to do your best for the alliance. You can check our discord channel soon for a helpful chart.
r4s will be managing the quest board. We will delete everything less than 100 points, mystery quests and inefficient quests. We will try our best to call out quests that are available.

First off, DO NOT TAKE MYSTERY QUESTS. The 240-point personal quests are better. Avoid the regular healing quests. They take way too many resources to be worth the points. AP and stamina quests are the same unless there's an event.
Please be sure to time your quests so they coincide with weekly and Break Loose events! That way you get points for both. Do the math for the requirements.

Now, the easiest (FREE!) quests. This is the most important message in this whole chain.
Lairs: 2 (97), 4 (140) and 6 (184)
Arena: 10 (115) and 12 (133)
Help allies: 35 (127), 55 (109), 35 (150), 100 (164), 50 (180) and 75 (210)
Mystery shop: 8 (122), 10 (150), 12 (180), 15 (210)
Quiz: 6 (118)
Consume diamonds: 3000 (101) good for buying your extra 3 quests

There are also gathering quests. Unless you’re going to be online all day to complete it, only take ones that are the same as the alliance resource building.
The 113- and 143- point quests are BAD. Only do the 106-, 138- and 172-point quests.

The get gear, chip, module and cube quests are decent. Wait for weekly events and Break Loose. 100k points is 10 promote/enhance boxes. For example, the 176-point quest to get 800k points is 80 boxes. It’s important to do the math here if you’re getting them elsewhere.
Get hero frag quests are nice, try to wait for Break Loose if you’re using hero choice cards. The 240-point personal quest is 50 cards. The 120-point quest is 6 cards.

The craft and get nanoweapon material and bioenhancer quests are the boogeyman now. I don't like them at all, except maybe once and only during nanoweapon break loose or ace day 1 (improve might series quest). The craft nanoweapon quests are expensive.

Alliance Showdown // Improve Might week day 1: Get heroes.
-Hero frag 120, 176 and 240 pt are good, 113 is not.
-The 240-point personal quest takes 50 5-star frags or 125 4-star frags.
-You can buy Levina from clean water, Eve from ruins and McCarty from rare earth.
-ACQUIRING perfect frags counts, using does not.
-Redeeming Joy 777 boxes counts for points.
-Ace Commander/Hero cards do not count for points.
-Tavern recruiting counts, but tavern exchange does not.

Alliance Showdown // Improve might day 2: New development, spin 777.
-Switch talents to economy. Use fast build/cost reduction talent skill. Use build, research or train speed items.
-Nova economy skills can be reset with modifying kits to put skill points into build, research or training speed.
-All quests have been converted to speedup only. The 240-point speedup quest (20 days) is 480 hours of speedups.
-Build/Research/Train/Generic speedup 113, 176 and 240 are good, 120 is not.

Alliance Showdown // Improve might day 3: Gear upgrade, spin 777
-Gear enhancers, promoters, modifiers and locks count for points.
-Each box is 10,000 points. For get 200,000 points is 20 boxes. For get 800,000 points is 80 boxes.
-Lair boxes have a small amount of enhancers. Alliance shop has them too.
-Clean water shop has gear modifiers.
-Check all your events for gear material.
-Get gear 120 and 176 are good, 113 is bad.

Alliance Showdown // Improve might day 4: Nova and Module, Break Loose.
-Gear/Module break loose can be in the first BL slot only.
-Module enhancers, promoters, and modifiers count for points.
-Each box is 10,000 points. For "get 200,000 points" is 20 boxes. For "get 800,000 points" is 80 boxes.
-Rare earth shop has module materials.
-Check all your events for module material.
-Get module 120 and 176 are good, 113 is bad.

Alliance Showdown // Improve might day 5: Glory and Bioenhancer, Break Loose.
-Bioenhancer break loose can only be in the second BL slot only.
-Ruin prison trial, buy from the prison shop, and research bio for points.
-Get bioenhancer 12 and 176 are good, 240 is tough and 113 is bad.

Alliance Showdown // Improve might day 6: Chips and Cube, Break Loose.
-Chip/cube break loose can be in the first BL slot only.
-Chip enhancers, promoters and modifiers count for points.
-Each box is 10,000 points. For "get 200,000 points" is 20 boxes. For "get 800,000 points" is 80 boxes.
-Ruins shop has chip materials.
-Check all your events for chip material.
-Get chips/cubes 120 and 176 are good, 113 is bad.

Alliance Showdown // Improve might day 7: Diamond Expert, Diamond Shop/Wheel.
-This day sucks. We should be done with our points by now.
-But I guess if you want to do some, consume diamonds in the shop/wheel or buy VIP points.
-Get diamonds from packs 240 personal quest was decreased from 18,000 to 10,000.

[lyric dawn]

*Day 2 Generic speedup 121 is a perfect quest better than the 120 ironically since same amount but 157 is not since the 176 are the same amount and more points. This was my info from last time if you wanna take a speedup quest.😂

I love day 7 cause it's so accurate there is diamond quests but not worth it maybe the 3k if you wait all week to buy extra quests lol

[old inlet]

121 is bad since it's 200 hours like the 120 quests. The 113 is 60 hours. 157 is bad too because it's 320 hours and so are the 176.

[lyric dawn]

Yes it was a sneaky warning I made for if you absolutely want to take the 120/121 qquests

[old inlet]

Ah.

[lyric dawn]

Some people can be stubborn or quick take quests I noticed😂

[old inlet]

But all seems good otherwise?

[lyric dawn]

Yes

[old inlet]

Probably wait til next time to update my ace one.

I think I want to mention something about the changes in the intro.

[lyric dawn]

That'll be best get a jist on what would be good where

[echo shadow]

I took the 101 pt diamond quest on my farm and forgot to catch how long it gives you lol

[old inlet]

I'll keep an eye out.

[old inlet]

1:00:00

[echo shadow]

I added a points per item and how many items needed sheet. I used in part the math from Mrs Stabby, but also did some of it myself where it wasn't provided. I used a calculator and my basic math skills, but I am sure something was mathed incorrectly because my brain moderately to severely malfunctions with numbers (I caught myself forgetting zeroes more than once), so just tell me if you find something incorrect and what it should be lol

[magic dagger]

So, no more quest of using alliance coin or quest of sending x amount of rss?

[jolly geyser]

No more. This is the second alliance showdown like this. 😔

[deft steppe]

Is there any healing speed up tasks in showdown?

[turbid helm]

Hopefully not! Those are horrible quests.

[dense oasis]

Not horrible if there is WC 😄

[lost burrow]

Healing out side of normal infirmaries for events doesn't count unfortunately. Valiant / Res Wars / WC.

Would only work if you get your HQ hit in the mud 😅😅

[brisk crown]

Bring back the fracking rss transport quests

[echo shadow]

WC wouldn’t count for healing quests. WK would count.

[echo shadow]

#💭closed-game-suggestions so mods can put it in their reports

[dense oasis]

Is there still hero quest in 240 personal quest? 25 reset and no hero quest. All other quest has shown up. Only hero quest that does not show up at all.

[turbid helm]

It exists. Can’t get it on my main account, but my farm caught one. I want it 3 times on my main and still none 😥

[meager onyx]

These quests are horrible. Modifier material, nanaweapon material, and bioenhancer. 😡

I can't get a hero personal quest to double down with hero upgrade event.

[echo shadow]

Sometimes you don’t get lucky

Sometimes you get very lucky

[dense oasis]

Same with me. 28 times reset already, still no hero quest. Research and nano quest keep show up.

[meager onyx]

Duuuuuumb

[meager onyx]

And I'm not going to spend $40 for the diamond personal quest. SKIP.

[turbid helm]

Mine is all troop training and diamonds. Tomorrow I can take all the troop training quests for New Development. That is when I’ll all the hero ones. Lol

A different question, has anyone seen personal Speedup Quest?

[turbid helm]

Ok, because I asked about it, I just got one. It isnt a hero quest though 🤦‍♂️🤣

[meager onyx]

Im getting modification material. I only have one box. What's a good way to get modification material without buying them?

[turbid helm]

Res War shop, ruins, rare earth. Pretty much that is it

[turbid helm]

I know I have almost 20m fastcomeback to use. But STOP GIVING ME TRAINING QUESTS TODAY!!
Please 🙏🙏🙏

[lyric dawn]

I'm getting all speedups I have chosen to save it for tm and my hq

[turbid helm]

I just want 1 (or even 2 or 3) hero quests then I’ll take all the training/speedup quests it wants to give me. Lol

[lyric dawn]

🤣

I have this curse I never get hero frag quests on hero day

[turbid helm]

Last time it overlapped, I got 3 on my main and 2 on each farm. Guess I’m being punished this week. Lol

[lyric dawn]

Most likely

[turbid helm]

Woohoo! Got 1. Can we make it 2? 🙏🙏

[jolly geyser]

You got 1!? I'm still waiting

[meager onyx]

But 1,000,000 points? That's 333.333 of them.

[lyric dawn]

Whoop whoop

[lyric dawn]

Mod material is 1.5m aka 50 boxes worth. So 500 material or 50 gear locks. I don't recommend taking that one but in water shop you can get 300 material, 100 in ruin shop and 100 in pit shop so it's doable

[turbid helm]

Yeah, so don’t take it if you can’t do it. Above there are a few good charts started that show the costs for each quests so you can budget before taking them.
I can’t do modifiers since I have none saved up right now.

[lyric dawn]

Just wanna say that math hurt my head lol

[old inlet]

I got 1 hero on my main and 3 altogether on my alts.

[turbid helm]

I hyper focus on value. Not spending my money makes me aware of the value of each item.

[lyric dawn]

So I just noticed something

Mod/Bio the 113s aren't bad 😂

[turbid helm]

Actually, a lot of the 113s arent bad anymore. They used to be horrible value.

[lyric dawn]

Im actually super happy about that

It'll make sense soon on how I am noticing this 😂

My games being dumb can you buy Glory with diamonds?

[old inlet]

I think you can from the diamond exchange, but not from any regular shops that I can remember.

technically you can buy 5 battles worth of glory arena and get the reward boxes that have glory in it.

[lyric dawn]

Okie I'm updating my visual chart i knew refiner yes but glory I was unsure of

[turbid helm]

Not directly. Mystery shop gives some

[old inlet]

Yeah mystery shop too.

[lyric dawn]

I found a boo boo ignore that lol

[old inlet]

Is is the 176-point gcmc stuff says 400 instead of 800k?

You also said lineup BL and match BL on the different rows.

And the 101-3k is underlined.

[lyric dawn]

Im fixing stuff currently lol and the 101 3k underlined refuses to un underline

[old inlet]

You're using a dash after diamonds instead of a semicolon

[turbid helm]

Ok grammar police. 🤣

[old inlet]

Well I dunno just in case that was causing the issue

Grammar proletariat

[lyric dawn]

That's okay the only wrong grammar staying is Chipz

Also the 176 were wrong cause blue was typing what she was reading again🤦‍♂️

At least no one caught nano weapons was missing 😂

[old inlet]

121 says 8d8h then later says 8 days and some.

I didn't catch it because nano quests are dead to me lol.

Especially since they screwed up trial this week

[lyric dawn]

🤣🤣

The ones that said 8 days some are ummmm from when I first did the schedule and didn't have the correct hours for awhile I'll fix that lol

[old inlet]

Aww deleted I can't critique it anymore 😭

[lyric dawn]

I didn't wanna have people come in and try saving it as it's still wrong you can critique this lol

[lyric dawn]

I have certain ways i do things I rarely do dashes in that area😂

So was definitely not like me lol

[turbid helm]

Not like caffeinated blue or not like exhausted blue? Pretty sure those are very different rainbow colours. Lol

[lyric dawn]

I was before coffee when I started editing that this morning🤣

[echo shadow]

Fixed it. Added the 101 quest.

[serene nexus]

Anyone seen the 210 Mystery Shop quest this go round? Haven’t seen it pop up for any of my accounts/alliances yet.

[turbid helm]

Yes

[serene nexus]

Well, at least it still exists then. 🤣

[turbid helm]

Yup. It was gone before I could take it. But it was there.

[serene nexus]

Just felt silly holding out for them if they were no longer an available option.

Thanks for confirming!

[echo shadow]

My mini is doing one rn

[jolly geyser]

I was typing lol

[next dust]

Sorry figured out my own mistake. The wording caught me up. Lesson learned.

So dailys are worth 1200 points a day and you can do 6 days worth for 7200 points + any other quests you decide to knockout?

[jolly geyser]

Let me math this

You can’t do 6 days worth. Because the absolute max amount of quests is 14

The max total amount is 3360 that anyone can get

Now depending on what rank you are will depend on how many quests total you can do

[next dust]

The 14, does that include purchasing the extra quests?

[jolly geyser]

That does include it.

What rank are you

[next dust]

Veteran currently

[jolly geyser]

So you can do 12 quests

[next dust]

Ill figure out this event someday I swear

[next dust]

You can purchase 3 quests ?

[jolly geyser]

With diamonds

[next dust]

It's 11

[jolly geyser]

Math

[jolly geyser]

I don’t think I’ve been veteran since they came out with showdown

[next dust]

Yeah, we just flew into state a few weeks ago. Couldn't find an alliance shell so are starting from scratch. Got bumped up to veteran after last showdown

[fringe helm]

I wish they did not get rid of transport quests

[turbid helm]

Anyone see Healing Quests so far this week?

[jolly geyser]

Nope

[deft herald]

Yes, we had a lot 🙂

[turbid helm]

Strange. Haven’t seen any on my 3 alliances

[lyric dawn]

Awe i thought they were gone gone

We've had none

[old inlet]

I haven't seen any either. Thankfully.

[deft herald]

we don't have any right now because they're gone quickly.... but on the first day it was a lot because someone had this quest all the time. A few minutes ago there were some 50x help for 180 points

[turbid helm]

I mean the ones for Healing Troops, not the Helping ones. The help ones are good.

[deft herald]

ok i need a coffee 😂

I just woke up right now…

[lyric dawn]

😂

[turbid helm]

https://tenor.com/view/coffee-gif-18759864

[deft herald]

that should save me 😂

[dusky idol]

Anyone have an updated possible personal quest list?

[jolly geyser]

Check the pins

[hollow lagoon]

Tell me about how to handle this message..

Always after finishing a quest

[lyric dawn]

What's wrong? That's the normal screen when no quest is accepted

[hollow lagoon]

Thanks very much,then it was my mistake

I misunderstood

[young dagger]

Do you have to click complete when you've finished the task or does it automatically do it? I'm doing a rss one, 2 hrs till enough rss but timers in 5hrs. It'll be the middle of the night - will it auto complete?

[jolly geyser]

Yes you have to click complete

[young dagger]

Thanks!

[old inlet]

Yall sure there's healing quests? I haven't seen it at all and others have asked where they're at.

[lyric dawn]

I've seen none

[hardy patio]

Me neither

[old inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/will-ferrell-ricky-bobby-praying-gif-14874728

(For them never to return)

[lyric dawn]

Until I see a screenshot they are around I'll say they are gone

[maiden moth]

176 modification materials only needs 480,000 points it seems. Unless there are two worth the same amount now. It only took 16 boxes for module modifiers, not sure about gear locks yet.

[old inlet]

Every modifier box is worth 30k points. 10 modifiers @ 3k each or 1 lock @ 30k each.

Both for showdown quests and regular events.

[silent bough]

There still is

I see them every now and then

[turbid helm]

Last showdown it was. But I think they are gone this week.

[silent bough]

Maybe they are gone this week

I been mainly doing personals this time around

[summer bloom]

Hello !

PLEASE BACK "ALLIANCE COINS" ASSIGNMENT AMONG THE ALLIANCE SHOWDOWN QUESTS !
THANK YOU !

[old inlet]

#💭closed-game-suggestions and send your feedback to CS.

[round stream]

Is it still player must achieve minimum 1000 points to be able to collect rewards?

[jolly geyser]

To collect all phases IF the alliance unlocks them

[round stream]

Question is minimum points to collect Any rewards?

[jolly geyser]

There is for each phase

[old inlet]

Yes, check the pins.

[celest sigil]

Was the point system in heroes for showdown and for Ace hero day always different? Or have i gone crazy 👀 That is possible too...

[lyric dawn]

After recent ace changes its 30k for a 5 star and its 20k during showdown. Your not crazy lol

[celest sigil]

Okay. Phew 😅 I was gonna send reminder of how many cards is needed and was staring calculator and thinking why the hell it says only 25. 🤣

[lost burrow]

Dammit that means I used too many to get to bare minimum 😂
Why did I not read this earlier

[celest sigil]

Hope you got to upgrade a hero for your troubles ☺️

[warm cypress]

Hey guys Is showdown starting after reset or next week ?

[turbid helm]

Still a week away

[lyric dawn]

So imma be adjusting this cause uhhh it's a tiny bit wrong. Is it worth noting that nano quests will lineup with day 6 after carley and I just noticed some of that stuff works?

[junior apex]

Is there a PNS calendar of events? As in, when does Showdown return?

[jolly geyser]

It’s every three weeks. And yes there’s a calendar. Let me locate it

#🗓regular-events message

[queen scroll]

Question new to game. Im from state 693 we had alliance showdown start on the 31st of July i believe and end the 6th. Would it be returning on the 20th then of august.

[scarlet hatch]

Yes

Showdown is on a 3 week schedule

[queen scroll]

K ty N3g4n

[gritty nebula]

If someone is changing alliance, how many hours before showdown start do we need to switch alliances to qualify participation?

[lyric dawn]

Need to be in 10 minutes before

So make it in by 11 minutes before us my best suggestion lol

[gritty nebula]

I thought it was 24hrs or 48hrs, when did this change?

[scarlet hatch]

For showdown always been 10 min before

[lyric dawn]

Never changed

[gritty nebula]

Thank you

[lyric dawn]

I think I got everything that lines up lol

[old inlet]

Quickly edited my last Ace guide, any feedback?

Alliance Showdown // Ace Day 1: Get heroes and Nanoweapons
-Hero frag 120, 176 and 240 pt are good, 113 is not.
-The 240-point personal quest takes 50 5-star frags or 125 4-star frags.
-You can buy Levina from clean water, Eve from ruins and McCarty from rare earth.
-ACQUIRING perfect frags counts, using does not.
-Redeeming Joy 777 boxes counts for points.
-Tavern recruiting counts, but tavern exchange does not.
-I don't like the nano crafting or materials quests. You can do the math.

Alliance Showdown // Ace day 2: Build and research.
-Switch talents to economy. Use fast build/cost reduction talent skill. Use build or research speed boostitems.
-Nova economy skills can be reset with modifying kits to put skill points into build or research speed.
-All quests have been converted to speedup only. The 240-point speedup quest (20 days) is 480 hours of speedups.
-Build/Research/Train/Generic speedup 113, 176 and 240 are good, 120 is not.

Alliance Showdown // Ace day 3: Consume AP/stamina and gather.
-I recommend never doing any of the AP or stamina showdown quests because they're such poor value. Amount needed is very high compared to the points received.
-Switch your commander talents to your gathering boosts and activate the gathering boost item. Swift Gatherer talent skill is your friend.
-If you have spare modifying kits, you can reset some nova economy skills for gathering boosts.
-DO NOT take the 113- and 143-point quests.
-Good day to take lair quests.
-Since we have alliance steel mill, 176-point steel gathering quests are easily completed.
-Time your gathering marches and set your alarm.

Alliance Showdown // Ace day 4: Soldier training. Break Loose.
-All troop might quests have been converted to speedup quests.
-Set talents to balance for training boosts and use the Cost Reduction skill and the training speed boost item.
-Reset nova economy skills to put points into training speed.
-Break Loose! Try to save your quests and troop training to see if there's a speedup or training event. The speedup event is 711 hours, the training event is much less.
-Train/Generic speedup 113, 121, 176 and 240 are good, 120 is not.

Showdown // Ace Day 5: Bioenhancer, Refiner and Break Loose.
-Bioenhancer break loose can only be in the second BL slot only.
-Ruin prison trial, buy from the prison shop, and research bio for points.
-Get bioenhancer 113 and 176 are good, 240 is tough and 120 is bad.
-If you really want to burn diamonds, buying Gear Refiners can complete diamond quests.

Showdown // Ace day 6: Get enhance/promote materials // Break Loose.
-There are two break loose events that overlap today's ace: gear/module and chip/cube.
-As always, 113- and 143-point quests are bad.
-10 boxes (promoter 1/2/3 and enhancer) is worth 100k points for the showdown quests.
-1 box (modifiers) is worth 30k points.
-There are 2 materials quests for each type: 120pt for 200k and 176pt for 800k points. That means 20 or 80 boxes will complete them.
-Open lair boxes and buy materials from Ruins and Rare Earth shops.

Alliance Showdown // Ace day 7: Build, research and train.
-Switch talents balance. Use fast build/cost reduction talent skill. Use build, research or train speed items.
-Nova economy skills can be reset with modifying kits to put skill points into build, research or training speed.
-All quests have been converted to speedup only. The 240-point speedup quest (20 days) is 480 hours of speedups.
-Build/Research/Train/Generic speedup 113, 176 and 240 are good, 120 is not.

[jolly geyser]

Day 7 don’t forget to switch to balance talent to train….

[old inlet]

Got it

[lyric dawn]

Day 3 I'm not seeing lair quests
Day 5 113s are not more than 120 so are also acceptable. Also your 120 is missing a zero lol

But looks good

[old inlet]

I didn't post the preface which I mention lair quests, but I can add them to day 3, I still have space.

[lyric dawn]

Ahhhhh that makes sense was just curious

[uncut quiver]

Okay, my farm alliance might have messed up, do we need the fort up in order to do alliance showdown… we are currently resetting our hive of our main alliance and our farm… but forgot about the farm for minute. And won’t have the fort built before reset. Will it be okay? Or are we out of showdown?

[lyric dawn]

Ummmm not sure I know the requirement is level 2 alliance I think don't think it requires a fort I may be wrong

[old inlet]

These are the only requirements as far as I know.

[uncut quiver]

Thank you, hopefully it’s not a “hidden” thing. That happens with a few events I feel like

[lyric dawn]

I mean if your doing speaker you can accidentally delete speaker and reput it up and keep going🤣

So I'd hope not

[fallen flame]

Has anyone encountered a transport quest yet?

[lyric dawn]

Nope

[junior apex]

Does anyone know if transport quests been removed from showdown

[jolly geyser]

They are here

[junior apex]

Thanks

[pale jay]

I'm guessing they are super rare now lol

[hallow sapphire]

And 52? 😭💀

Might well keep it deleted 💀

[gloomy kiln]

I have yet to see one

[native quest]

I thought they were bringing the transport quest back?

[jolly geyser]

They did. But very scarce

[graceful dawn]

Saying they are very scarce when we have been rerolling quests half of the day and not one has shown up is a bit of an understatement, why do they hate transport quests so much?

[warped plover]

Because transfers don't make them any money

[lyric dawn]

Which I love my issue was all they did was clog up showdown

[wild pebble]

Nah i didnt see any transport quest till now 🫠

[jolly geyser]

I’ve done two

[brave badger]

Imagine the joy I had when I saw this! (I took a screenshot immediately) But it disappeared and became just another regular +240pts personal quest when I tapped on it for details.

[lyric dawn]

Yall ask this every showdown. It's still there some people get lucky and get em others dont. Just because you don't see em doesn't mean they were taken out

[queen drum]

As far as I know, they haven't removed any personal quests. They have added some though.

[echo shadow]

DID THEY REMOVE THE HERO QUESTS

[lyric dawn]

Imma go bald just from reading that every showdown 🤣🤣🤣

[tight coral]

Hero quests only shows up on non-hero event days. LOL I can predict that it will show up tomorrow hahaha.

[echo shadow]

I got one today. Last time I got only one but the time before I had 3. Last showdown was a struggle in general.

[old inlet]

I actually got more hero quests than I can do on my main this time, and it didn't take 22 hours to get one.

[echo shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/over-and-over-again-creamcheese-micha-brooks-players-again-and-again-gif-26339139

[lyric dawn]

I have deleted 6 of them

[tight coral]

I think the most hero quests I received was 6. That was the perfect showdown. But there was one showdown when it was all training — that was awful 😭😭 and then I got impatient and took a ?240 and it was a tech quest

[lyric dawn]

Ouch not the tech🫣

[runic belfry]

Lair quests are the best. Need more of those

[coral walrus]

For this to happen, I'm pretty sure the RNG for quests are not rated the same.

[fossil plover]

To those who keep wondering

Even with max score of 126, I dont think I'd take transport quest when I can wait for the opportunity of help quest and mystery shop 180, 210
Or mystery shop 150

Not even for my farm....

[runic belfry]

I never really did transport with my main hq. Waste of rss. Gathering missions are easy and add rss.

[empty elm]

Haven't seen 1 transport quest yet.

[lyric dawn]

It's probably a lower drop. Which thank God they were 90 percent of quests last time they were around... or it's just luck lol

[copper tundra]

The transport request are gone, or at least so I am told, I haven't seen one the last 3 times , where as I have seen the useless Nano weapon and Bio research ones constantly.
If they still exist at all, they have been rendered irrelevant occurrence wise in favor of the two Big Bank only ones.

[hardy patio]

Transport quests are back. They are just way more rare than they used to be and pretty garbage point wise. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[copper tundra]

still yet to see one.
I would gladly take one of those over the Big Bank ones

[scarlet hatch]

They brought back the all rss ones, which always were 💩

[hardy patio]

Think all the ones I’ve personally seen have been less than 100 points

[old inlet]

They were always garbage ones.

[hardy patio]

Some of them were decent-ish for farms to take

[scarlet hatch]

The 126 ones were good

[copper tundra]

the 126 were good filler points

anything less than that they can remove again 🙂

[turbid helm]

Yup. I was always able to clear 2000 points on my farms using the 126 to fill in.

But all I’ve seen come back in very very low volume is the 110 and 52 point “transfer a billion resources” quests

[copper tundra]

see i always took it as a GREAT incentive to help out lower level members of my alliance. I used to stockpile resources just for Showdown and wait for them to show up. Then go 'who needs steel' or wood. Inevitably some Level 26 would shout out and id send them 18mill wood or something and make their day.

Good Vibes.

But now thats gone.

Ok I wasnt sure if it was better to put this in suggestions or under Alliance Showdown, so going with both.

Alliance showdown is one of my favorite events, always has been, but one thing always bugged me.
So you have the 20 slots that are random, and I get those.
and one slot that is fixed to 5 (maybe 8 now who knows) choices

Why, for the one fixed slot, do we have to cycle through looking for the one we want, clicking on it every 30 mins until we find the one we are looking for. Its, annoying. It serves no purpose. It adds frustration to the game. So....why do that?

Just let the other 20 cycle and be grabbed by whoever. For the fixed slot, just let us pick from the 5-8 available choices and go. Take that annoyance and frustration out of the game and it would be a better experience for everyone.

[turbid helm]

Yeah, someone else mentioned that under hq25 cannot accept modifier quests, so why do those show up on their personal quest options 🤔

[copper tundra]

I have heard that as well

Alliance Showdown, to me, is the best community building event they have. Everyone in an alliance working towards a common goal. I love it for that.
But taking out the 126 transport request hurts that community aspect (really anything below the 126 can go)
Limiting the hq25? Again why,

Not letting us pick on the fix slot what we want to go for. Again, why? The event is about working towards a common goal, why deliberatly add frustration to the mix. What purpose does that serve? If there is a good reason for that, please share. Id love to hear it, and Im not being sarcastic there, I really would like to hear it. Its not like we can spend diamond to get the choice we want, no, its just a random 30 min cycle that we have to check to get a the particular goal we want to attain. It is nothing, but annoying. Is it annoyance for the sake of annoyance on that one? Because I see no other reason there.

[turbid helm]

Lol. I agree with all of that.
My frustration lies in Showdown running during Ace week because I ignore Ace. 🤣

[copper tundra]

Well pass it along 🙂

I still pay attention to Ace, dont have +8 in everything yet. But even if ace was not there you'd like to line things up with 'something' yaknow.

Anyway thanks for listening. I do love Showdown, and will continue to do so. It just needs a few, easily accomplished, tweaks.

[crisp mica]

Anyone have a list of all the possible question mark quests?

[jolly geyser]

Check the pins of this channel. Many people have put together a list

[crisp mica]

I see a lot of overall lists but can’t find any that specifically show the question mark quests post-update. Unless they didn’t change?

[jolly geyser]

Azzie has a whole section

[crisp mica]

Nevermind. I see that spreadsheet has an additional page

[turbid helm]

Most people don’t take ❓ quests, especially not with the personal quest options. So there is little to no new data.
At this point, expect the random ones to be the same as listed and remember most are bad value

[crisp mica]

These seem to be inaccurate. Just at a glance, the gain diamonds is 10k not 15. Thank you tho

[jolly geyser]

For personal? Or mystery? Azzie’s stuff is usually pretty accurate. She puts a lot of time and effort into it

[crisp mica]

I can try to look. Maybe it’s accurate for mystery but Id be pretty surprised as they aren’t typically ever worse than the personals. Usually they’re better, like with the hero frags only needing 800k

[jolly geyser]

Asks for transport quests. Gives two nonsense ones lol.

I’m not transporting 32m rss lol

[turbid helm]

I am, but not for those stupid points 🤣

[jolly geyser]

The old 126 were better than that

[tall solstice]

In our state we haven't incountered the transport task..🤔

[turbid helm]

Which is probably why they didn’t return them.

[jolly geyser]

They are like shiny Pokémon. Very rare

[tall solstice]

🤣🤣🤣

Where's that Pokémon..🤔😂

[tall leaf]

Oh so some have seen transport quests?? I haven't seen them yet.

[deft herald]

Yes, there were a few, but they are probably very rare now

[tall leaf]

Perhaps in the question marks??

[deft herald]

No, as far as I know, they're normal quests... I haven't seen them yet, but some from my alliance and here on Discord too.... if I remember correctly, they're quests with 110 points or something

#⚔alliance-showdown message

[celest sigil]

I have seen 56, 63, 87 and 110 points transport quests.

[scarlet hatch]

Just the bad ones

[celest sigil]

Yeppers 😏

[runic belfry]

Good ones go instantly

Tho they are a waste of rss. Gathering quests are just as easy but profitable

[hallow sapphire]

What my alliance do is, we set our alliance farm to food for showdown only. So we recycle all gather quest other than food. This is easier to gather points but as I said this how my alliance did so this just an advice 😌👍🏻

[fringe helm]

We have no transport quests. Wth

[hallow sapphire]

They sucks. Don’t even

Waste of rss

[lyric dawn]

It's a smaller drop chance. Seems they listened to us that hated how transports took up the whole dang board and lower it lol

[runic belfry]

They increased the do lairs missions.

I got 4 this time so far. Only got like 4 ever

[lyric dawn]

Yes I saw that

We've had lots of lair quests

[runic belfry]

The internet only cares about the negative tho. No one's praised the far more lairs, just complaining about the transport.

[lyric dawn]

I love lair quests so I'm happy they added more

[abstract fiber]

I love lairs quests.. not during these special monsters events though

[lyric dawn]

Im always having to remind people not to take em during these moments lol

[turbid helm]

It is part of why there seems like more because players arent taking them when they can’t do them.

[lyric dawn]

True that could be it

[rancid leaf]

What is the point to bring back the transport quest without a specific resource type which are super low points and super high requirements and to have them spawn extremely rarely. Like we wanted the ones specific type 100 or 126 points ones. Like do they really listen or just make a fake attempt at bringing them back so ppl will complain about them to be removed?

[rancid leaf]

It is cause the transport are completely removed. They weren’t just rarer. Now they only included the useless ones. The bigger problem is that they break what is working but a few complained but what most did complained they barely addressed it.

[lyric dawn]

Yall wanted em back didn't specify which

Pns is like that lol

[rancid leaf]

It was specified a good number of times. This is really playing the fool to assume they didn’t knew which ones

[lyric dawn]

Ok question tho did they get rid of heal quests in replacement like we talked about? I have not seen healing

[lyric dawn]

No yall didn't you said transport quests back nothing specific🤣

[rancid leaf]

It was specifically asked by the number of points of the quests we wanted. I saw it a good number of times here

[lyric dawn]

Not I'm suggestions I never saw it 😂

[rancid leaf]

The fact you never saw it is not a proof of anything

[lyric dawn]

Idc tho they are crappy quests usually insta deletes there are way better quests now for Littles and what not

[rancid leaf]

Not everyone has a big alliance nor has money to spend on the game, ever tried doing a help quest or a lair quest when everyone is asleep?

[turbid helm]

I still agree that Transport Quests (the real ones, not the crap they gave us back), were good reasonable quests that provided good value to players and alliances.

[lyric dawn]

I'm in an alliance that doesn't spend alotta money we knock out dozens of help quests a day

The 150/180/210 adds are way better than transport imo

[jolly geyser]

So annoying. Help quests lol. All day every day

[lyric dawn]

If it means we can get Littles in on great pointed quests ill sit up for hours helping

[rancid leaf]

The problem is that they put so much help quest you only that. Its time consuming if not everyone is on it

[jolly geyser]

Yeah. It’s good points. We’re almost at 150k

[lyric dawn]

Less than a minute to do a help quest with all hands on deck is fun

[lyric dawn]

I didn't mind the 126 when i had a farm in our main alliance. I just don't like others giving rss or pressure put on them seeing em so I like they are rare sucks it's the 110s yes. I like I see no heals🤣

[rancid leaf]

They just should have left the 126 ones and maybe the 100 if lacking rss. The thing is you don’t need anyone online to do them. We need to have active and passive quests. Those were the rare ones that didn’t require much hoarding. Almost every other quests will be long term quests which are hard to complete all 14 cause of the time you need to be on the game. 14 gather, mystery shop, quiz which if you want to maximize points will require very long time to do. The only other quest left is arena provide you didn’t spent all your passes.

[lyric dawn]

No offense you sound like you dont know how to utilize showdown. So many people I see obsessed with transports just don't try. The 210 mystery shop you could easily bang out over half your quests even the 180s are great

[rancid leaf]

They have to be common enough to get them. I barely get one each time if i can.

[lyric dawn]

I've gotten 5 🤣😂 and many 210 helps I like those more than the 164 for 100

[rancid leaf]

I leave most help quests for our members who cannot afford to hoard, spend or do long quests. I mostly gather and i get enough points to not feel ashamed about it. I just try to make the team win not just myself.

[lyric dawn]

That's why I take the big quests the more points we can get our guys the better it a goes towards the alliance.

[rancid leaf]

Its more that if i can do the harder quests the other ones will do the easier ones while still getting high points for everyone. We have 100 members. There are not much good quests hanging

[lyric dawn]

Ehhh that's why I do personal quests too and we reset frequently so we always have good quests. Also my t9 takes the big quests like help because she's small and can't contribute much

[rancid leaf]

Yeah was easier when feast were giving coins and training were in might and not speed ups.

[lyric dawn]

I'm glad they aren't anymore broke too many things

Imo I prefer the speedups over might. I don't have builds/trrops/Research to hit those might goals

[keen dagger]

Anybody know if there is a list of personal quests somewhere? Just wondering if there is a get bioenhancer one for personal? I know there is one for general quests.

[jolly geyser]

Check the pins.

[lyric dawn]

The 240 is 1m points for bio

[queen drum]

Showdown is easy if you've got dedicated R4s and a plan!

[lyric dawn]

We don't have a plan but we got r4s keeping it tidy most the time🤣

[keen dagger]

Thanks all! It finally came up. And done!

[zenith lynx]

Lemme get this straight. The personal quest for nanoweapon materials doesn't include nanoweapon modifiers?? How is that possible?

[turbid helm]

Modifiers are not included in Gear or Chip or any other quests either 🤷‍♂️

[zenith lynx]

Booooooooooooo!
But thank you for the confirmation. 😁

[turbid helm]

Nanoweapon modifiers do count for the Modifier Quest though

[zenith lynx]

If they'd just give me one!

But, thank you!

[cosmic anvil]

Transport quest popped up

[runic belfry]

Photoshop

[mint hearth]

Yes. Probably 50,000 of our Showdown points are just help quests. Everyone watches the board and grabs them as they spawn in.

[old inlet]

I did 240 personals and 180/210 help/mystery shop quests this time around. Didn't have the drive to do full 240.

[hardy patio]

I still have 6 quests to knock out today 😬

[old inlet]

I have three between my main and mini, and I don't even know how many left on my alt in my old state. I know I made at least 1k points and they made 150k+ so it's not a huge deal. I've lost so much drive on that account now that it's away from my main and mini. I used to do a solo triple hunt mastery, 2500+ showdown on each, etc. and now I barely even log in to do the dailies some days.

[jolly geyser]

Me too. But we’re already at 160k

[hardy patio]

I hear you. All my farms are more or less neglected.

[old inlet]

Currently 132k with 13 people at 0 points and another 19 under 1k. So sad.

[jolly geyser]

Plenty of time to yell at them

[hallow sapphire]

Kick the zero

[turbid helm]

So mean! One of my farms apparently only finished my first quest today 🤦‍♂️

[hallow sapphire]

I mean if they don’t have a legitimate reason, I would just kick. I rather have active players > strong/lazy players 😌👍🏻

[turbid helm]

My “legitimate” reason is I forgot 🤦‍♂️

I also hate showdown during Ace. Especially for a farm.

[lyric dawn]

I always suck on ace showdowns

[old inlet]

Ace showdown is a lot better than is used to be at least.

[wicked fog]

We max our rewards but showdown is just work. It’s not fun. It ranks down there with Alliance party and dead rising.

[jolly geyser]

🙈

[queen drum]

It promotes team building and co-operation.
I like it, at least when the team's motivated and the alliance isn't too small to for a decent amount of rewards.

[wicked fog]

We hit level 30. Help and lair quests require teamwork. Transfer quest do as well. I think we had 2 transfers all week. I’d like to see more quests that require team effort. Aside from those mentioned the rest are individual effort.

[junior apex]

Used to be Tuesday of get week (glory/refiner) was a good time to claim SD rewards. What's a good day to claim now?

[turbid helm]

Right away. Nothing worth waiting for.

[junior apex]

🍻

[blazing blaze]

Everyone ready to scream over the next changes to troop day?

[jolly geyser]

It’s not even much of a change.

[warped plover]

What does the troop day change have to do with showdown?

[lyric dawn]

I've been asking the same thing. We don't have might quests anymore just speedups

[turbid helm]

I do hate that. It hurts those who plan. And hurts those with improved training boosts.

[lyric dawn]

Personally after they removed all might counting promoting I found troop might quests tedious so I liked the speedup adjustment. Tech I liked that too due to extremely long research. Only might quests I'm sad of is build lol

[cerulean folio]

The random 210 quests, what are they usually? Are they they the same as the 210 quests? Meaning, 75 helps and mystery shop?

[deft herald]

#⚔alliance-showdown message

These are the old ones, but nothing has changed ... except that a few new quests have been added

[turbid helm]

Hero Quests have shown up nicely for my main account today. 3 so far 🥳

[deft herald]

But that's mean😂😂 I didn't get a one on my main

[turbid helm]

🫣🫣

I want 1 more 🤣

[deft herald]

can I cry or scream?

[turbid helm]

You can do both if it helps me get another hero quest 🤣

[deft herald]

Ok lets try

https://tenor.com/view/cry-sad-gif-25488313

https://tenor.com/view/cry-loud-waaa-cry-shake-girl-gif-17770587

😂😂

did you get another one?

[scarlet hatch]

I got 3 on my alter, but none on main

[turbid helm]

No 😥
It was a training one. I’ll check again in 25 minutes 🤞

[next moat]

What happened to getting transport quests back? I haven't seen any the last 2 showdowns.

[deft herald]

Yes there is

not as often as before

36 m rss for 110 points

[lyric dawn]

I saw 1 yesterday. Alot of our issues was the frequency and taking up the whole board

[queen drum]

Now I have an issue with the high frequency of nano and mod materials, lol. Im happy we have them, but the random generator seems to favour them, plus food and wood gathering, a wee bit too much.

[turbid helm]

Frequency is low and it is only the really bad transport quests that everyone auto deleted anyway.
So basically they are not really back