🪓valiant-conquest

[weary spire]

Can't help with speed ups but can give RSS to do so.

[gusty dune]

Hard pass on the requests for repayment. We get zeroed on any day that ends in -y buy the "DoNt HiT uS, wE aRe In ThE tOp 10" crew, so if they got dinged, so be it.

[dark cliff]

If your not in nap. You can do whatever you want.

[jaunty marsh]

If you’re not in the NAP you can hit whomever you want. NAP doesn’t mean can’t be hit ever. It means other people in the NAP can’t hit you. Anyone outside of it is welcome to, they just usually can’t do much damage because they tend to be weaker. So they might complain but it’s not against NAP 😂

[gusty dune]

I haven't napped since I was 5, so... ANARCHY!

[weary spire]

🌿 azzie

Si vous n’êtes pas dans le PAN, vous pouvez frapper qui vous voulez. NAP ne veut pas dire ne peut pas être frappé jamais. Cela signifie que d’autres personnes dans le PNA ne peuvent pas vous frapper. N’importe qui à l’extérieur est le bienvenu, ils ne peuvent généralement pas faire beaucoup de dégâts parce qu’ils ont tendance à être plus faibles. Donc ils pourraient se plaindre mais ce n'est pas contre NAP 😂

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English (en) → French (fr) Reacted by ptitloup#5455 • ID: 901211217333456947

[charred crypt]

It be like that sometimes….

[midnight parrot]

I nap like 10xs a week.

[charred crypt]

Damn….. I wanna be like you when I grow up….. #goals

[midnight parrot]

I'm 12

[charred crypt]

My statement still remains 😂

[jaunty marsh]

I sometimes nap multiple times in one day

[charred crypt]

I envy you lol

[jaunty marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-nap-time-sleep-gif-22041916

[dull fjord]

Some states nap cant be hit or you will be punished

[jaunty marsh]

That’s not what a NAP is tho lol. NAP is an agreement between its participants. It has zero impact on the people outside of it. If you’re not in it you’re already open to attack so saying it’s forbidden is kind of pointless because they’re already attackable 😂

[dull fjord]

Theres reasons for attacking like minimum rss, nap doesnt necessarily just attack everybody else for no reason and vice versa

[jaunty marsh]

A NAP is a non aggression pact. I’m not saying there’s no reason for attacking others. I’m just saying those not in it are already not protected by it so there’s no real point in saying “you can’t attack us”. NAP doesn’t make you untouchable. That’s not what it is. It just a mutual agreement for mostly big alliances to not hit each other so as to prevent chaos. It’s mutually assured destruction that a NAP prevents.

So the “no touching” by definition and worthy of punishment is if it’s an attack by a NAP participant upon another.

[weary spire]

And there I was thinking nap means I should get one done irl

[jaunty marsh]

lmao

I need a nap

It’s 4:12 am

[weary spire]

Legit . When I first started all were talking about NAP. and I'm not English person so I was thinking they talking about sleepin

[jaunty marsh]

I mean it is kind of like a nap

You rest from attacking. In Spanish it always translates to siesta when we discuss it, and it makes me laugh

[charred crypt]

Spanish 👀

[jaunty marsh]

Sí

[coarse ledge]

No hablo español…

[weary spire]

🌿 azzie

はい

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Czech (cs) → Japanese (ja) Reacted by ✿Ṋýạɳ#0060 • ID: 729057919710265434

[charred crypt]

Y por q no??

[jaunty marsh]

El es alemán, no?

[coarse ledge]

Sì, soy alemán.

[jaunty marsh]

Usas un traductor? O me entiendes?

[coarse ledge]

No traductor. Hablas un poco del(?) español. No muy bien. Perdón

[past lotus]

Best NAP explanation that i ever hear. That answered all questions that i have.

[jaunty marsh]

glad it helped

[jaunty marsh]

Está bien. No puedo hablar alemán 😂 yo sé algunas palabras pero olvidé mucho

[coarse ledge]

You officially lost me now. My Spanish is as bad as I told you. Mostly what I picked up from classmates that took Spanish instead of French like I did. And some I learned from TV shows. Like albondigas from How I met your mother😂

[jaunty marsh]

Hahahaha I just said it’s okay, I can’t speak German. I know some words but I forgot a lot

[jaunty marsh]

Because it’s Valiant, here is the FAQ. Check it before asking questions pls.

[coarse ledge]

Looks like everyone is either happy with VC, not participating at all or at least not complaining. Good job to you all in any case.

[dull fjord]

Valiant sucks now everythings burning in 10 minutes 😭 and a lot of the older states are empty

[coarse ledge]

It’s always like that if one of the states has lots of active players🤷‍♂️

[remote girder]

everything is gone when i wake up. even billion might players zeroed 🤯

[jaunty marsh]

Or maybe my FAQ was actually looked at

[regal solar]

Why do I get notifications for every upcoming event except VC?! Then I go to sleep and wake up zeroed.

[jaunty marsh]

It is every Saturday after Wasteland. It is in the upcoming events tab.

[regal solar]

Why do I get notified for upcoming even fox's test every time I log in, and not VC? I don't care about upcoming fox test, but definitely care about forgetting to bubble when I go to bed!

[jaunty marsh]

Because the notifications don’t always work. But also you should ALWAYS check what’s coming up. That’s the best way to learn for yourself and never be unprepared. Did anyone in your alliance say anything? I tell my alliance before Valiant starts every time and they still don’t all listen. This morning I finally was over it because it was embarrassing an alliance as old as ours was on fire.

[regal solar]

That's me. I'm the reminderer...I remind for 2 days and then forget my own damn self!

Fox's test reminder ALWAYS works.🙄🤣

[dull fjord]

Thats why, just purge em 💥💥

[jaunty marsh]

Why would I do that

[vale rock]

To bring in those who listen, or those who are actually active, lol. Main purges Sundays, lol.

[jaunty marsh]

All of our members are active. We don’t keep inactives unless they tell us.

[vale rock]

Yes, lol, some seem to have dropped from the face of the earth! We have a process we go through: demoting in rank until they can’t go any further.

[jaunty marsh]

We do that also

And one of them got mad at us for it but it’s like dude you were offline for over a week

I think it was actually almost two

[vale rock]

Yup. We’re getting there, and new, active players are always coming in 😄

[coarse ledge]

<@&742285797725569104> everyone else: don’t use that link

[young canyon]

Qjuh can u d.m me a sec plz

[robust dune]

Well, when the PnS discord clique gangs up on anyone with a different opinion, you aren't going to get many complaints.

Valiant Conquest/Wasteland King still suck & there should be states free from weekly invaders.

[coarse ledge]

Send your weekly ticket to CS. Don’t complain to the players about an event that has always been in the game and most definitely always will be in the game. There are other games free from invaders, but when you play a game based on SvS events then don’t complain that those events happen. This discord isn’t complaint department, it’s a platform for players to get help and hints about the game. CS is your goto for anything you want to tell the developers, this is the place for anything you want to tell/ask other players.

[coarse ledge]

And may I remind you of #📚sanctuary-rules #9? Your reaction emoji to my post definitely doesn’t comply with that

[robust dune]

I guess there shouldn't be any complaints, as this is the way the development team has designed it, and you're all whiners, too.

[jaunty marsh]

<@&742285797725569104> can you handle this very disrespectful reaction

[weary spire]

Listen up, rules applies to everyone. #📚sanctuary-rules #9. We do not insult anyone here .
If you cannot go by them, maybe this isn't server for you.

If you dislike VC & WK so much go to CS with your complains not on a daily basis force your opinion to members & insult them when they disagree with you.

[vale rock]

And, may i add, find a game that’s more compatible for him!

[midnight parrot]

i missed out on VC... usually the best event

[plain saddle]

I love it too! Very fun event.

[weary spire]

I hit flex and didn't get zeroed, that was all my VC

[midnight parrot]

i ran from Alex, didnt get 0"d

[snow pulsar]

VC would be better with 0 shields👀

[tight stag]

Would agree yes, because valiants is always over after 30min😅

But if your full with ress and cant shield that would be a big Nogo for me 😂

[jaunty marsh]

It’s a 24 hour event. It would have to be an hour for that. People are not going to stay on all day.

[snow pulsar]

They don't have to

[jaunty marsh]

You know not everyone likes getting attacked right? Even if troops come back.

[snow pulsar]

Why not?

[tight stag]

Because they lose ress

And withiut troops they cant gather

As a example

[vale rock]

Because we were attacked the day before so already have no troops?
Because we prefer to attack with cause rather than randomly, taking advantage of those smaller than us?

[snow pulsar]

https://c.tenor.com/TWt0r0pMX2cAAAAM/war-games-joshua.gif

[remote girder]

or make shielding in VC a diamond-consuming function. i.e. increase its cost, and also match the diamond expert time frame.

[jaunty marsh]

It’s one event you’re not forced to participate in. Why are y’all trying to force people?

[coarse ledge]

They are just joking around…

[remote girder]

you are not forced to participate in all events… if you are forced to shield, i call is passive participation, because you are forced to do or not to do something during the event.

[jaunty marsh]

Maybe one of them lol but not both

[coarse ledge]

I can set my 3d shield a day before though, so no, I don’t have to do anything during that event 😉

[remote girder]

then you were forced to put up this 3-day shield “as part of” the event. and you are forced to not able to do a lot of other activities during the event. so, in a way, it is the most boring participation from your own perspective, and the most boring participation from your opponent’s perspective also. devs should probably figure out a way to encourage more active participation. for example, if you successfully dodged an attack, you earn some rewards, etc. just throwing some stones..

[coarse ledge]

How would you know what I myself find boring?

[remote girder]

i don’t. i’m just stating my opinion from what i myself know.

[coarse ledge]

You were talking about my perspective though

[remote girder]

which happens to be the same as my farm’s

[coarse ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/joey-matt-le-blanc-i-really-doubt-that-friends-doubtful-gif-11834463

[remote girder]

ok. busted 😝 i sometimes only put on 1-day shield plus an 8-hour one..

[coarse ledge]

Did you ever actually meet me in game? Or did you mistake the I can set my shield for a I always set my shield?

[remote girder]

umm you lost me there..

ah i see. you probably mistook you (the generic “you” in persuasive writing) as you (the literal “you”) in my statement, which i meant me (based on my experience and opinion, what a generic-person would feel like). and now your response makes sense to me.

[jaunty marsh]

You were using a universal you

[snow pulsar]

I'm sorry, but this was amazing.

I am not agreeing/disagreeing with anyone's views here, but this made me lol a bit🤣🤣

[remote girder]

glad to have provided entertainment value 😝

[vale rock]

Some people actually don’t consider shielding as participating, they consider it preventative maintenance :).

[remote girder]

well, you can argue that, but in fact it is doing more than skipping most events. for example, i can skip nuka just by ignoring the sign-up. but i guess there is no point arguing about it only for the sake of argument 😝

[vale rock]

Lol. As far as I’m aware there are two events where you participate whether you want to or not, minimum or maximum. Valiant, and Dead Boring.
Valiant I set a shield and go on like any other day. Dead boring I send out my reinforcements and to the Fort, then forget about it!
You dislike Valiant, I HATE DR! Even with the speed increase it’s boring! This is the one event I wish I could opt out if.

[remote girder]

agreed. i hate DR too.

[jaunty marsh]

But you basically can. Just be offline. Log on twice to send to fort. Done.

[dark cliff]

DR is nap time for me

[remote girder]

and wake up to a full infirmary 😂

[dark cliff]

Need the heals for trials lol

[remote girder]

true lol

[snow pulsar]

What's DR?

Just do lairs n sht as normal. Agreed with Kagumi. Don't even look at it🤣

[vale rock]

Lol. Depending on the alliance, I just stay in the Fort!

[vale rock]

Unfortunately, I’m usually at work, so technically I can’t nap, lol.

[jaunty marsh]

@vale rock the cool down is 10 minutes so I was saying:

Because VC is more open than nuka and Res. Not everyone is on one map. I also think the complication is to create urgency. Being able to just hit and run home fast seems unsporting.

[vale rock]

No problem, I figured it’d be a while for the reply 🙂
Not everyone is on he same map for nuka, either.
I know this won’t happen, but it would be super nice to be able to click on the invaders sanctuary and click send them home! Lmao. Kind of defeats the SVS aspect, lol, but still amusing.

[jaunty marsh]

I mean no not literally everyone in that time frame but all the participants for that map are on the same map so there’s nowhere to run off map. I mean you can, but you can’t come back.

[remote girder]

maybe consider making VC similar to res war but on a larger open map and free for all with rss up for taking? players can port in and out by using some sort of ticket or diamond, for up to 4 hours each time.

but then maybe only the bigs will opt-in. lol

[weary spire]

Imagine the lag

[astral axle]

Can an hq be ported by an out of state player during vc if they are not in their hive?

[jaunty marsh]

If their wall goes to 0 but that takes a lot of attacks

[weary spire]

If they get hit in the grey they will be random ported out. Also if they wall goes to 0 like gee gee mentioned above

[icy smelt]

And grouping them like Nukaland brackets, lol 😄 and HQ35-40 can't join in bracket for lower HQs, but lower HQ can join in bigger bracket if they want challenge

Everyone within 3 states matched in WK will be in those groups since VC starts, even they are online or offline, if they are offline, need to shield if they dont want to lose resources 🛡

[midnight parrot]

I've forced ported people in other states durning VC before. In and out of their hives

[jaunty marsh]

[silent torrent]

Good evening everyone. I'm sure this has been already asked and could be boring. So thank you in very advance. During Valiant, if your troops were killed by your own state members, would they come back after the event? Thank you

[remote girder]

no, they stay in infirmary or dead

[silent torrent]

Thank you

[jaunty marsh]

@silent torrent

[silent torrent]

Thank you ☺️

[keen prawn]

@remote girder sounds like you think it's a farming and collecting game

[remote girder]

how do you think so?

[jaunty marsh]

Dude don’t start

[keen prawn]

Ok

Have a wonderful night and happy hunting during valiant

[dull fjord]

Its whatever you make it to be

[keen prawn]

Very true

It is very layered

Gee gee waiting to pounce lol

[timid shell]

If you scout a sanctuary does it show you whether there are troops in the Alliance hall or just the information of the player?

[blissful spoke]

Depends on what level your watch tower is

[timid shell]

What level would it need to be to show that information?

[blissful spoke]

Go to watch tower and at the top right there's a small exclamation mark.

It tells you what you can see at every watch tower lvl

Btw, how's everyone doing in valiant?

[timid shell]

Thanks. As far as how I am doing. - about 100 million with 1.3 million in our State infirmary from defending our alliance.

[timid stone]

Hello, do all your troops return unscathed after the event? or would you still lose some?

[coarse ledge]

You get all those back that got wounded killed by players from another state. If however someone from your own state did attack you then those troops stay dead/wounded

[timid stone]

thank you, just had to verify before I swear it correct...

[midnight parrot]

@remote girder I forgot to mark your spot, so I could steal it

[remote girder]

i thought that wasn’t you? 😂

[midnight parrot]

Hehe

[remote girder]

suddenly sounds so evil 👀

[coarse ledge]

Suddenly? Nyan always sounded evil to me, but the good kind of evil

[midnight parrot]

I'm chaotic neutral.

[midnight parrot]

@crystal echo you were seconds away from death lol

I saw you pop up in chat lol

[crystal echo]

Yeah,thank god for my hero 🙈

You're So mean,you want me dead😱 😭 😭 😭

[midnight parrot]

Never ask unbubbled. Lol

[keen prawn]

Don't cry

Why would nyan want u dead?

That is very harsh

[coarse ledge]

VC? Why wouldn’t you want to attack someone from another state?

[keen prawn]

Ahhh now I seeel

See*

I've got about 3m myself so far

But does that mean I want to see all other ppl in different states dead?

A very poetic question

[coarse ledge]

Their troops, not the player

[coarse ledge]

Every question from you is technically a poetic question

[keen prawn]

Touche

The metaphysics of ones name

A good thing to ponder on

[crystal echo]

It's just a game 🙂

[jaunty marsh]

@remote girder lol I came into the battle chat right after y’all left 😂

[craggy kettle]

Sorry if I’m late to the discussion, but when did the devs change the rule about reinforcing while shielded? I just heard a few people reinforced and their shields popped, CS said it’s not a glitch, it’s correct. How do you change that and not notify anyone?

[remote girder]

this is the first time i’m hearing this.. and i reinforced today and my shield was fine..

[craggy kettle]

Your reinforcement troops got hit I presume

[sage escarp]

Yeah, I got all my points today by reinforcing unshielded members today and my shield stayed just fine.

[craggy kettle]

Hmmm interesting

Thanks guys

[remote girder]

no it was not hit.

[craggy kettle]

Well that might explain it but Hillside got his points and he didn’t pop. Dang glitchy game lol

[remote girder]

sometimes, shields drop due to players’ own wrong actions, such as triggering war frenzy when hitting on a tile unintentionally, or forgot to reapply shield after the first one expired, or used the wrong kind of shield, etc. not saying it is the case you were referring to, but it’s a possibility.

[craggy kettle]

Agreed but two players was offline all day and only reinforced others so it’s just odd. And the one who reported it was told by CS that rein would cause it to pop

[mental radish]

Hey does anyone know if troops can collect more than limited diamonds for the VC. I am almost at 7k and send troops to colect 1.5 now

[sage escarp]

You will only get the max 8000. You can send troops to collect more, but they come back with nothing at the end of the gathering time.

[mental radish]

Thanks Hillside

[jaunty marsh]

Reinforcing should not do that. I always get my points that way. It’s possible they clicked the wrong thing or it was a glitch.

[craggy kettle]

Usually I would agree but not this time, and CS even said it.

[jaunty marsh]

CS is often full of shit. Reinforcing does not drop your shield. I do it every single valiant.

[craggy kettle]

Lmao thanks that actually makes sense

[hexed quarry]

It doesn’t. I do the same as well in my past two valiant

[craggy kettle]

Thanks everyone. So it’s a glitch and CS won’t investigate without a SS. Wonderful

[midnight parrot]

RF'ing definitely does not pop shields

[midnight parrot]

Can you send me a SS of that?

[craggy kettle]

Sorry no, it didn’t happen to me

Thanks for the clarification, but it’s odd that some people are still doing it without their shield popping

And some it does

[vale rock]

If the person put a shield up AFTER you send reinforcements, the troops are sent back automatically I assume this is because the game thinks that simply shielding is enough to protect you.

[celest walrus]

Good sportsmanship

[jaunty marsh]

I don’t get it

[coarse ledge]

Me neither🤷‍♂️

[celest walrus]

Valiant opponents. We stopped and got a picture of our different states

[jaunty marsh]

Oooo gotcha. That’s cool ☺️

[jaunty marsh]

I’m so used to people complaining about people from out of state bubbling and gathering 😂 I just automatically went negative

[celest walrus]

Lol

[jaunty marsh]

That’s cute lol

[coarse ledge]

I was wondering why it was so quiet and peaceful in here and in #👑wasteland-king these last weeks. Then I realized that there’s someone still muted on this server…

[vale rock]

A blessing that is!

[crystal echo]

He can still read tho🙈

[coarse ledge]

So?

[crystal echo]

Nothing,nothing

[remote girder]

you miss him already? 😂

[coarse ledge]

I just realized, I didn’t hit any resource spots this VC

[jaunty marsh]

I did nothing yesterday. I wasn’t home lol

[remote girder]

you said hi

[jaunty marsh]

Well yes lol but I got no points

[coarse ledge]

I neither left my spot nor did I drop my shield. Yet I have 60m points 🤭

[remote girder]

you can gather safely on our mud. we usually don’t hit tiles 😜

[jaunty marsh]

I mean I usually reinforce for points too lol I just couldn’t be bothered when I woke up to get on the game, as I had to get ready to leave

[jaunty marsh]

Mhmmmmmm mhm mhm I’ll keep that in mind

[proud mantle]

You do magic?

[coarse ledge]

No, I simply reinforced some unshielded members…

[teal scarab]

This is the best event for me. All fun. Sometimes we are lucky to get a jackpot😌

[remote girder]

i heard there are more jackpots in the diamond league 😏

[vale rock]

I didn’t realize this was an option, although I should have, lol. I’ll try this next time 🙂

[jaunty marsh]

It’s what I always do

[vale rock]

And now I know, lol. We’ve got a few who always forget, lol

[summer aurora]

I've seen some pretty good jackpots. Just have to be really quick with the massive players chasing you.

[feral juniper]

Yeah you are right last VC i found a guy with 280 mio open food

If you're fast enough in the beginning you can really do some ress and kills.

[dull fjord]

We got matched up with a nap35 🙌

That was a feast

[remote girder]

what’s an nap35?

[dull fjord]

35 alliances in nap 🤣

With no one to raid them til i come along 🤤

[remote girder]

still don’t get it..

[feral juniper]

I think he means that there is a top 35 nap in the enemie state. Therefore the players are not plundered like in purge states etc.

[remote girder]

oh nice lol

[topaz lichen]

Many Ukrainians belong to our guild. Now they are fighting for their beloved family and country. Some people haven't logged in for more than a week. I'm very worried. Valiant Conquest begins. I don't want to see the HQ of ukrainian people attacked. I want to appeal to all players, including other countries. Why don't we stop vc until Ukraine regains peace and can play again？

[digital flume]

Not being an ass but if my country is at war, I probably won't care about my rss in a game. You can only lose rss in vc, don't really see the need to. They can bubble the players if they want thou, they did it a week or two back when there was some issue with Facebook authentication for my mates who only binded to fb.

[prime flower]

In light of world events I’m hoping people will show restraint in draining rss from unprotected accounts. We have several who can not log on due to being in the middle of a war.

[thorn nymph]

Could someone please tell me if it is acceptable for a player to attack a camp during Valiant Conquest?

I have been playing a year and it has never been acceptable for a player to attack a camp during Valiant Conquest or Wasteland king.

[remote girder]

in WK, camps cannot be targeted, so no camps can be attacked. in VC, it is fair game. at least i haven’t heard of any rule about not attacking camps in VC

[stiff zealot]

Mine get hit all the time

[thorn nymph]

Ok. New to me, but accepted. Thanks 🙏

[outer rover]

We playing tag with a biggie hitting our camps.. happens all the time.

Anyone get decent results from customer service regarding shield malfunction? Player in my alliance used gems to buy a 3 day, but it dropped and he got plundered like nobody's business.

[tribal whale]

It has happened to several of my players before. At most CS responded with “Oh well, we can’t really help you sorry”

Does anyone have definitive proof that troops are permanently lost if a player hits another player from same state OUT of state during valiant?

[sage escarp]

It is accurate. People have posted results showing it. Attacked same state players is treated the same, regardless of where you are.

[tribal whale]

Thank you for verifying!

[thorn nymph]

I’d be curious to know how that turns out also. We have had several occasions where shields were purchased and then dropped early; sometimes a whole day early

[outer rover]

I encouraged him to file a ticket daily until he got a response if necessary. Just overall sucks for him. 3 day purchased with gems and plenty overhead rss.

[thorn nymph]

Good. It is frustrating 😩

[rancid lynx]

How does the leaderboard work?

[vale rock]

We had this happen a while back.
They only die IF your sanctuary infirmary, deep healing, and alliance infirmary are all maxed, so try to heal as you go, if you can.

[tribal whale]

It wasn’t me, but I appreciate you pointing this out. So if the battle report shows multiple hundreds of thousands of troops in the red, they’re not necessarily permanently lost?

[vale rock]

That depends on the personal infirmary and deep healing cap, which are identical, plus their personal cap in alliance infirmary. I’m at a loss if you want more info though.

[remote girder]

not sure if i understand the question correctly, but you earn points in several ways, and the leaderboard is just based on the total points each individual has earned.

[rancid lynx]

Thanks, someone in my state told me what I needed

[exotic raven]

Pretty terrible match making this week. 385, 69, and 5. Needless to say us in 385 are being punished for doing well.

[vale rock]

It’s always who you faced for Wasteland, so your being punished by those you defeated last weekend.

[exotic raven]

Those that let us win last weekend. They just toyed with us but let us win

[vale rock]

Lol. We’ve faced the same situation. It’s not fun at all when they force it to continue for the full 24 hours by resetting your hub timer!

[exotic raven]

Exactly what they did. Lol

[proud mantle]

They do that for kills

[potent portal]

Match making for valiant and wasteland is God awful

[potent portal]

Servers in the 300s should rarely ever have to face servers 1-100

[sweet jasper]

What happened to the 15 relocates pack and the march and attack boosts in the mall , every valiant and wasteland those packs are up for purchase , but this valiant there is none.....

Any mods wanna answer that ..

Being you guys help with development..

[sage escarp]

They moved it to Rare Items

[quasi raft]

In VC, even if you have a camp in alliance territory holding a spot for another player it’s ok for someone to hit it and take the spot to attack the alliance?

[chrome meteor]

👀

[outer rover]

Oh hello stranger! 🤣🤣🤣😘

[remote girder]

i’m not aware of any rules or common practices that forbid this.

[outer rover]

There aren't any official rules referring to that.. or etiquette. Likely you just never had it happen before, but it's common.

[weary spire]

Is "purging" a state of resources before valiant begins standard game practice?

[chrome meteor]

Was trying to get front row seats 😂

[outer rover]

Depends on states and players. We have a few who will go hit tagless or abandoned hqs ahead of VC at times. Just another way to keep rss in state other than fort condoms😆

[outer rover]

You got some! And rallies 🤣 lot of fun and shenanigans! Great VC, even the losses.

[sage escarp]

Definitely

[quasi raft]

Wow never knew I’ll be putting that in my game plan

[hoary gull]

G

[hoary gull]

👀

[remote girder]

please do not spam

[vale rock]

@weary spire we can continue here without slo mode.
Yes, it was a suggestion, or several of them. You’re entitled to your opinion, and me to mine.

[weary spire]

Exactly. I gave my suggestion and then people started to respond. It's not complaining. I posted a suggestion in the suggestion channel. 🤷‍♀️

[vale rock]

Yes, you did :). But we were burying that suggestion, and others, in the chatter, which is why slo mode is there.

[weary spire]

It was only one suggestion and I agree it was getting buried there.

I do work hard each VC. But if someone gets in a car accident, they are just as susceptivle to attack if you have in-State raiding. The game can't stop because of someone's social life or emergency.

Therefore, the devs should up the warehouse cap and find a way to make VC more competitive. Every single VC has been heavily shielded and like you two, people are not willing to unshield just with some convincing. They want their troops even though they get them back. 🤷‍♀️

Also, my State is pretty much Statewide NAP, so VC is the only event outside of RES war where we can flex our troops and get kills. But now, we can't.

Maybe my suggestion is a bit tough, but the devs definitely need to consider shortening the event and making it more engaging so people don't resort to in-State raiding or worse, immigrating and bullying other States.

[vale rock]

Let me ask you a question then.
Say you had a 2 hour shield up and we’re unable to log in to renew it, despite setting an alarm (log in failure, which is QUITE common, especially today, or an emergency, etc.) and you got hit by a 35 you stood no chance against. They took all your plunderable resources and killed every last troop.
You are finally able to log in, expecting to go raising, but find you are hamstrung: you don’t even have one troop to join a rally. What would you do?

[weary spire]

Heal one or two marches and I never have a large amount of rss out of my bag. 🤷‍♀️ 🤷‍♀️ Even when I was a smaller player.

[quasi raft]

Can you point me to the suggestion

[stiff zealot]

My state is a statewide NAP as well and I had over 200m points in the first hour of VC. I make deals for the end of the event to test my troops out on players I know I can't beat.

Also I am at a point where it's so expensive to upgrade that if I couldn't store things in someone who was shielded and lost all that I have I would not be happy

[vale rock]

I can definitely agree with making VC and WK shorter! Maybe give two of each, 12 hours long involving half the states in each one. This might help resolve some of the lag issues since everybody and their farm wouldn’t be on at the same time!

[weary spire]

I had 1 billion points in the first 20 minutes, but that's not gonna get me in the top 20 or 10. What's the point of having a top 10 or even top 3 if you will never get there. Some people reach for the sky! 🤣 🤣

[weary spire]

I agree.

[vale rock]

Goals are good. Mine is to keep my troops healthy and out of harm’s way!

[outer rover]

Folks play differently. Even during VC some don't engage in hunting or even gathering outside their own states. We have players of all different types, casual to seriously invested and they all play their own way. Some just gather, gather, gather and hoard rss until they can push. I will say shortening some events is definitely desirable. No one wants to be stuck to a game for endless hours and with no chance to even rank.

[weary spire]

They will be healthy. If I hit you outside of VC, they would be dedded.

[outer rover]

If a big awesome beastie like yourself can't rank, there's no hope for most of us😱

[weary spire]

Amen

[vale rock]

Not if my infirmaries are empty, lol. It’ll just take longer to heal them.

[stiff zealot]

The top of the leaderboard I see right now is 7.7b points. If you got 1b in 20 minutes how are you not higher?

[weary spire]

Right?!!! Many of us big players are just sitting out VC because we want to give our fellow Statespersons a chance to eat and play. But even our smaller players are having a hard time getting rss and kills because everyone just shields.

[vale rock]

But you wouldn’t have had to waste the speed ups in the heals if you had been able to shield longer.

[weary spire]

Because that was just State defense. When I went to the other States, they were already cleaned in the first few mins of the event and everyone else was shielded. 🤷‍♀️

[stiff zealot]

That's not the fault of bubbles. Also you can go hunting later in the day as well. Shields almost always drop.

[weary spire]

The issue is, there is not enough to go around. 5 unshielded sanctuaries is not enough for a whole State to have fun in an event.

[vale rock]

You’re in the wrong state then. I’m in two. One has weekly war day, the other has bi-weekly purge. You can’t hit cormkills in either, but there are plenty who ignore the fact they should be shielded, lol.

[weary spire]

Trust me, I have been watching. I also have a social life. But I do watch. One popped shield here and there does not get you in the top 10.

[outer rover]

We had some success today but we also had a lot of fun tangling with one alliance in s73. They were pretty cool! But, BUUUUT..I had 2 guys with shields that didn't hold, one 3 day, the other a 24. 3 day fell and his chance at promoting 600k troops during ace shot to shit. Huge game bug, needs to be addressed as it's happened to others and been reported. Good thing he'll get help, but how discouraging to come online and find that awful surprise. We won't discuss having that much rss over cap lol.. that's just how he was rolling.

[weary spire]

No, I would feel terrible hitting in-State. My troops killed, not wounded, killed 4 million troops in one hit. That makes me feel too bad. They will not get those back.

[vale rock]

I have been hit in both states and have yet to lose my troops permanently. But I’m not big enough, nor do I have deep enough pockets, to have millions of troops sitting there, either.

[outer rover]

Purge days and states a whole different topic and views vary on that. Some enjoy it, others find it discourages growth and inner state relations.

[stiff zealot]

This isn't about the fighting. It's about fighting and losing the least amount of their investment. I mean - changing it so players that are rallied can't jump? That's not clean and fair playing

[weary spire]

I totally agree. We have free to play players who have over a year built up over 4 million troops. One hit from me would kill a Year's worth of work. That's why I like VC and Res War. It's good fun in which people get their troops back. But if those events are not engaging and interesting, then what?

[vale rock]

I agree with you :).
I have defended my state many times. If I couldn’t have ported away, I would have been dead! Lol

[weary spire]

Investment? You get your troops back. Unless you're talking about purchased rss?

[outer rover]

We faced you in res wars not so long ago. You one shot one of our fellas and we all had a giggle, but exactly. That time, money and investment would all have been scrapped if it were in state hitting 😱😭

[vale rock]

Res/Clash are my favourites. All the fun without all the risk…at least when I’m not at work 😦

[stiff zealot]

Or RSS I have collected over many days.

[weary spire]

You guys hit in-State. That permanent troop loss and permanent rss loss -- that's where the true investment lies. I am not sure how you can be OK with purging in-State, but not advocate for better pvp events in which people get those things back.

[stiff zealot]

VC is also permanent rss loss

And time is as much an investment as money

[weary spire]

Yes, but preventable. Also, it doesn't take rss to heal. The permanent rss loss comes from hitting in-State and having to use rss to rebuild and/or heal.those troops.

[stiff zealot]

I so agree with this

[stiff zealot]

Not preventable if I can't jump away from a rally or can't get back to the game to replace a 4 hour shield

[weary spire]

You have two weeks to prep for VC and protect your rss. But if I just hit you on a Tuesday in-State, you have no prep

[vale rock]

Some hit in state. I sit under my bubble, lol.
Work sucks though. 8.5 hour work day, 60-90 minute travel time, sleep minimum of 6 hours…no chance to have fun in VC or anything.

[hoary gull]

I’ve seen in state hit accidents. But doing in state hits on purpose is a D move

[stiff zealot]

And I don't have 2 weeks. I jump to a different alliance for WK. Guess what happens to rss in the warehouse?

[weary spire]

You can't jump away but that's 5 minutes that your fellow alliance players can jump around and start hitting the players who shield dropped to join the rally. Including the rally initiator.

[hoary gull]

Ya rally needs to be reduced to a minute in valiant

Like it is in res wars

[weary spire]

Are we supposed to do that? I would suggest not jumping to a different alliance. I thought they created the new format to prevent alliance jumping.

[stiff zealot]

For res war and clash

[vale rock]

100% agree!
I’m slowly getting it all in my bag, that’s not always easy though.

[weary spire]

Yeah, that's what I mean

[stiff zealot]

I'm usually part of state defense in wasteland. That involves being part of the alliance hosting

[vale rock]

WK we have one alliance who hosts everyone who wishes to defend the state. You leave your regular alliance, anything in the warehouse is transported back to you as soon as you quit the alliance.

[outer rover]

I would also like to see valiant start times staggered. It's kind of ridiculous. Stagger times or offer time slots so say 99 states run VC at x hours, next set a few hours after and so on. Might help with lag which is always awful during the event.

[vale rock]

If you wish to participate in Res or clash, you have to be in the alliance on Tuesday reset and not leave it till after your time slot. Can’t participate otherwise.

[weary spire]

Yeah, we do too, but that's still one week to prep for VC. I don't know. But if they made events like VC more frequent and more engaging, then in-State purges and raiding -- which is true investment/monetary loss -- would not be needed or as prevalent.

[stiff zealot]

When you need almost 250m food alone to upgrade something there is no putting that in the warehouse in a week

[vale rock]

I have argued against purge since I learned about it!

[stiff zealot]

We did away with it

[hoary gull]

With VC. Also what sucks if one of the states you paired up with is dead. Then the battlegrounds is just the other 2 states So I see your point more than others may moonlight

[weary spire]

Why is it out of your bag in the first place? 😳

[weary spire]

👆 👆 🙏 🙏

[stiff zealot]

Because I gather? It goes into a smaller player that doesn't have troops that eat it

[weary spire]

We are being paired with dead States too. And when we do get a packed State, they are all shielded. Lol

[weary spire]

Ah, understood

[vale rock]

Hard to put gathered rss in the bag, and if you’re in a very small alliance which doesn’t spend a lot of money, there’s not much choice in WHY.

[hoary gull]

I got paired with one state that only had 2 big alliances that were strong. Then no one else at all…. So they all shielded. Then their biggies just was in our state or the other. And for us it wasn’t even worth really going there to theirs

Best defense I’ve ever seen lol

[weary spire]

Got it! I am used to all my free to play players using the warehouse very well. So, that's why I am having a hard time with the concept. They also use their farms to store rss.

[stiff zealot]

And right now I'm waiting on nanotubes and accelerators to do anything. So I'm damn near a giant farm at this point

[vale rock]

I have 3 mains, and one of them is damn close to maxing the warehouse limit again, lol. Hq 28, so it’s not a small amount!

[hoary gull]

Well the past 2 VCS we had sucked really bad, but this one was actually fruitful and fun.

Didn’t make top 100 myself but got rallied against and won and tried to hulk buster someone and failed lol 😂

[stiff zealot]

Now that sounds like a good time

[weary spire]

That's nice. I wish every VC could be fun and fruitful. But alas, this is something devs should think about. Otherwise, they will lose players. It's no coincidence many of the older States we are paired with are dead. 🤷‍♀️

[vale rock]

Tried reinforcing someone. Epic fail. Still not ranked. Back to the game for me! Later!

[stiff zealot]

Good luck!

[hoary gull]

Ya I think it’s the newish system. Never get paired with 250s and up personally. I think we did only one time of all the times we have had wk and VC

@weary spire I’ve seen you in nuka and I’m sure many would hide from you in VC 😂

[weary spire]

😂 I generally do State defense and hit big players, but even the 40s shield!! Like what are you afraid of? 🤣 😅 🤦‍♀️

[stiff zealot]

We usually have one lower and one higher state

[hoary gull]

You I’m sure hahahaa

So your suggestion was to not have Allie’s who joined your rally have their shields popped @weary spire?

I want the rally timer to go down to reservoir times as well 🙂

[weary spire]

No

Their shields would pop like usual

[hoary gull]

They already do tho

[weary spire]

The idea was to not let players relocate when rallied. In VC.

Not in general

[hoary gull]

Oh. So they are locked in place?

[weary spire]

Yep, but as people's shields drop, they can still hit those players.

And so can their fellow alliance members

[hoary gull]

That would be in interesting mechanic. I’m guessing a new diamond rally would need to be added

[weary spire]

So, say someone rallied me. I would be stuck, but then my alliance members could swoop in and start forcing people to port away by attacking those who shields dropped.

[stiff zealot]

She wants the prey to be immobilized when hunting

[hoary gull]

Like reg rally. Super rally. Then locked rally lol

[weary spire]

Yes, but the prey is locked in, but now a whole alliance is vulnerable because they joined the rally. 🤷‍♀️

You can rally me, but Imma eat very well before those 5 minutes are up, unless you cancel the rally.

[hoary gull]

Speaking from today. My teammates got hit by that persons teammates during my 2 rallies

[weary spire]

Yep. I think it'd be a fun dynamic because now you have 5 ot 10 players trying to escape because their shields dropped.

[hoary gull]

I’d rather rallies be put down to 1 minute so more people would rally

5 minutes is sooo long

[weary spire]

Yes!

[hoary gull]

Have a easier item to obtain VC rally speed up

More people would rally I believe

[outer rover]

He means me🤣🤣🤣 and another. One ported away and therefore dropped out of the rally but I got a lot of ouchies! Other guy just died.

[hoary gull]

Becoming more vulnerable as well as a team

[weary spire]

It would be so much fun. And say I am a smaller player getting rallied, then my teammates can swoop in and kick butt while I am locked in.

It would create more of a team dynamic to the event.

[hoary gull]

Rather than biggest wins

[weary spire]

Thank you! Finally someone sees my point!!

[hoary gull]

I’m thinking they could add a few fire bombs in the entire map or something like nuka except they are actually useful and can only be used on a rally

[outer rover]

I like that idea! Would also encourage more players to possibly engage in the event overall.

[weary spire]

Phew! I was starting to feel crazy. I truly feel like this would encourage more of a team attack dynamic and everyone can have fun, not just bigs or smalls. But everyone. The event as it is now either is super boring for people like myself or super boring for smaller players who don't get to eat at all because all the bigs have swooped in and hogged all the food.

Or if you have more than one big in-State then with all the shielded, there is just not enough pvp to go around!!

[hoary gull]

Well because no one wants to be ganged on by multiple stronger people unless you are me lol

[outer rover]

That was a great report!

Definitely agree some tweaking can be done to keep the event more engaging for players of all sizes. I never considered the event would be boring for someone your size Moonlight. Interesting conversation!

[crystal warren]

Questions, anyone else notice a glitch in the identify of enemy versus friend in other states. We had a player lose 600k t10 after being hit by friendly fire. They were showing red. Attacker assumed enemy state player.

[timid shell]

Aren't the Might and troops supposed to come back at the end of the event?

[remote girder]

10 mins after event ends

[mellow basin]

Phew, almost cried 😂

[timid shell]

Thanks the Infirmary disappeared and I kind of freaked. I had over 2 million troops and 166 million might

[remote girder]

i have seen enemy state bases shown as yellow, but not the other way around. but it might exist…

[remote girder]

they should be back by now

[timid shell]

They are thank goodness. Trying to rebuild 2 mill troops might have been the catalyst to have me quit the game LOL

[crystal warren]

It's not good and the hurt player losing 600k t10 troops. They are saying they are quitting. Not fun at all.

[remote girder]

that’s unfortunate. was there screenshot?

[crystal warren]

@remote girder of the attack? Nope, there are screenshots of friendlies showing red tho

[remote girder]

can you post it here? i can add to my report. thanks

[weary spire]

What can I do? This time is my three accounts in different states. This weekend by VC they are fighting each orther.

[spice crest]

Samething you do every other VC?

Kinda feel like Pinky and Brain when I said that

[weary spire]

They added a freezing mechanism to Alliance Skills! 🙌

Let's see how it works!

[hoary gull]

What do you feel on them prioritizing senior soldiers? The cap on hq soldiers for defense I agree on. But not prioritizing senior soldiers. That’s the only defense I feel smaller guys have toward you titans

[weary spire]

Are you talking about the meat wall defense? I don't like it and definitely tips the hat towards the big spenders. That said, anyone below 600 million might usually gets zeroed by me in 2 or less hits. It's people in the 750 million to 1.3 billion range who I can have a hard time wittling down if they had that previous defense of T1s. But I think it's safe to assume anyone over 750 million might is spending a good amount of money on boxes, so maybe this evens the playing field for us higher might players with tons of troops? 🤷‍♀️

[hoary gull]

It’s definitely helped me not get zeroed by many people personally. And now instead of t1s helping relieve deaths of my t11s. Now I’ll have 2 mil t11s die? That’s pretty messed up lol. It will cause many more to just shield and cause you more boredom. Against titans like Lego Matt who have hit me 2 mil die and he loses say 1000. So it’s not a super loss when you have many more t12s

Against people of your same stature I can see meat walls being even crazier

[weary spire]

Yeah, maybe so. We shall see how it works in practice!

[remote girder]

that’s not how i understand it. deaths of T11s and T1s will still be evenly spread based on their ratio. “prioritizing senior soldiers” is referring to selecting troops to put on wall defense. so if you set a ratio for vehicle on the wall and you don’t have senior vehicles, your T1s will still be selected.

[hoary gull]

Your paragraph semi confused me…. I defend with t11 and t1 riders. Along with vehicles. I hope it doesn’t kill all t11 riders…the troop cap I am 100% for like I said many times. But hopefully it doesn’t just destroy all t11s. And doesn’t get rid of t1 meat shields. If it does. That will be the death of many players

[remote girder]

i see. if you have a mixture of T11 riders and T1 riders, then you are probably right. they did not say you can control the ratio of different troop tiers within the same troop type

[remote girder]

banned for advertising

[dusty flax]

Wheres a good speech about how valiant works? I'm in a new state with their first valiant and trying to figure how to word everything 😂

[ivory walrus]

Valiant Conquest is one of the Bi-Weekly State V State Events. There are two ways to earn points in other states.

1. Attacking and killing enemy troops will net you points based on the tier of troops you kill.

2. Gathering resources in an enemy state.

Of those 2 methods the easiest and safest is to port to an enemy state with a bubble and gather for the four hour periods.

Attacking can net you all the points in one hive plus the resources that exist in that hive but the draw back is there is always someone big watching out for those attacks.

I would suggest anyone who goes hunting, goes hunting in packs. Watch each others backs, reinforce enemy attacks against another alliance members HQ or run if you have no chance in defending.

Working as a team for these events will be KEY to helping lower HQ's get the same points a higher HQ can.

While you remain in your home state you should remain bubbled at ALL times during the event.

this is what we use in our group. I think the only thing i have missing is the diamond portion of the event

[dusty flax]

Thanks rodeo!

[ivory walrus]

Np 🙂

[hoary gull]

Valiant freezing is going to be kinda crazy

I like the alliance skills. But good lord how it will suck to get trapped then go to a. Different alliance to get trapped again 😂😂😂🤣

[remote girder]

only one guy can be trapped per alliance per cycle, so, just try not to be that unlucky guy 🙈

[hoary gull]

Imagine you could put your outposts on the black. Now you can trap people in wasteland king 🤣🤣

[remote girder]

that would be sick lol

[hoary gull]

Would change peoples minds about porting next to a hub

[remote girder]

for those people, being frozen doesn't make a difference 🤣

[hoary gull]

Probably. Sometimes they can be wrecked as well by super rallies

[weary spire]

First of all diamonds you have to be HQ15 first and collect up to 8k.
To get a lot of points you go to another state. best in the mud. 5 marches = 5 diamond levels. depending on the size of the group (the smaller the more groups, the larger the fewer groups are required).
be careful if someone big can hit this.

[proud mantle]

I am sure it is very painful,like the previous valiant he hit a t11 player from s83 and made that player lose 318m might 😂

[hoary gull]

😂😂😂 Who did?

[proud mantle]

LegoMatt 😂

[hoary gull]

Oh ya..dude is a manimal

[sage escarp]

No, any attacks against/from players from other states will return your troops in full within 10 minutes of Valiant ending.
Any attacks against/from players from your state (regardless if you are in your home state or foreign state) results in normal injured and dead troops that do not return.

Correct. The battle reports show dead, but they are just chilling in the state infirmary. You can use speedups to heal them if you want (no rss required, like Res War or Nuka), or just wait until the end.

[little topaz]

<@&742286202601996299> How will activating the new "Total Defense" Alliance skill effect sanctuary shields of those members who are already shielded? Will it replace the existing shield as would happen if they used a new shield while one is still active? This would be bad if a leader uses the skill to protect the alliance at the beginning of an event and it killed, for instance, existing 3 day shields that members had previously activated.

[sage escarp]

It runs concurrent, like a system shield. More details have been shared by players who tested it in #827758909510254603

[little topaz]

Thank you so much for the information and the rapid response.

[midnight parrot]

Expect lots of bubbles in the 1st hour of VC thanks to the new talent

[sage escarp]

So sounds like I can sleep in an extra hour tomorrow 🤣

[dull fjord]

Probably works like those shields they give after maintainance, its just basically 2 shields

[remote girder]

best way to test out is to activate it in the last 30 mins of VC

[stiff zealot]

Good luck everyone. Happy hunting for those who go

[noble sail]

How do i get attacked like this?

The guy wasnt even next to me and kept sending marches

[stiff zealot]

Did you random relocate?

[noble sail]

Nope. i just sat there and let the ghost hit me

[stiff zealot]

Huh. Odd

[proud mantle]

Thats a lot of rss for the ghost

[stiff zealot]

Yeah it is

[analog night]

During VC, I witnessed an attacker occupy four separate tracks of idle land after hitting a target. Then he regrouped and left. What's the tactic behind this?

[sage escarp]

1 of 2 things. Either blocking spaces so someone couldn’t port close to them, or sending troops away to keep them safe in case someone did hit their hq.
Or maybe some other random reason.

[analog night]

I thought the latter but nothing prevents a retaliation attack on one of the camps. Just never seen that before.

[sage escarp]

Ive seen it lots.
Hitting camps is slow though

[stiff zealot]

We use it to block spaces and keep troops safe

[obsidian needle]

Can you only go to the foreign state for a total of 4 hours or can you go for multiple 4 hr slots?

[formal pivot]

You can go multiple times, you just get kicked to your state after 4 uninterrupted hours in one foreign state. But you can port back as many times as you want.

[proud mantle]

Maybe to prevent someone teleporting near him to attack or if someone stronger attack him to save some troops so he dont have need to heal to continue attacking others

[solar tree]

Troop killed in VC by same state players get also automatically healed after event ends?

[desert grail]

If you get hit by someone from the same state no they do not

[shadow knoll]

Hopefully someone can answer a question for me one of my alliance members has asked.

Why do injured troops go to state infirmary instead of normal infirmary

[stiff zealot]

I think its to encourage people to fight more. People will be more cautious if they know they may permanently lose troops

[shadow knoll]

Thanks @stiff zealot

[proud mantle]

Because it doesnt require rss but only speedups to heal and after the event ends all the troops comes back

[runic carbon]

Everything is magic 😬

[undone inlet]

I’m magic. But only for things that aren’t cool or good. So no real difference

[tight stag]

Magical girl👀

[undone inlet]

😂 how’s the channels today?

[tight stag]

Awesome, i see a lot of love here🎉

[undone inlet]

I haven’t checked the suggestions in the Jurassic channel in a while - have you had a look? Any good suggestions?

[tight stag]

Ye there a lot of good suggestions!

But some suggestions are mentioned twice

And a few others complaining about the lags in the jurassic channel😅

[undone inlet]

@undone inlet - take it to #🔥game-general you bad. Spammer. @tight stag your fault. 👀

[tight stag]

Its your fault😔

[undone inlet]

#🔥game-general 😜😂

[proud mantle]

Guys your conversation is out of topic 😝😝

[undone inlet]

Yup! Gave us a growling and sent us to general 😂

[weary spire]

Hi y'all, can someone confirm me that it is better to get a lot of T1s main's troop instead of T1s trucks?
Still don't get that process well, but unconsidering infirmaries cap's, I don't understand why trucks would be more effective. Thank you.

[vale rock]

I’m of the camp that lots of T1 anything is better than losing hundreds of thousands of my t10!
At the end of the battle, no matter how many fighters and riders you lost, damage is spread out over all troops so, the more lower troops you have the cheaper it will be to heal them.

[weary spire]

Thank you, I get that damage is spread out over all troops, but healing is clearly useless in valiant. That's why I would be sure that shooters will be more effective than trucks, cause T1s shooters will be first to hit, before T11s, instead of trucks who are backin up all lines

[valid badge]

@weary spire @vale rock T1 of anything isn't good, u must train t1s at the back of the formation to get the main benefit that is why taxis are suggested, t1 shooters will work better for rider or fighter mains because they're better units though. This will of course go out the window with the new formations so taxis are a somewhat safe bet. This strategy is only really useful for events where your infrimary is ignored (e.g valiant)

[weary spire]

question, does the 30min bubble alli skill overwrites the 1-24 hour bubbles that people already have? or it bubbles just those without bubble? 🤨

[stiff zealot]

It runs separately like the maintenance shield so won't disturb one's shield

[weary spire]

Oh man thank you, this is what I was thinking, as a shooter main I started with taxis, thank you very much for your answer, really appreciate 👍🏼👊🏼

[remote girder]

stick to taxis. they are stylish as well!

[weary spire]

🙏🏼 oh yes they are) thank you 👊🏼

[midnight parrot]

[thin tree]

Did something happen where we permanently lose all our troops?

[upper crescent]

Yes same

[worthy swift]

I am see the same thing troops gone

[lone ferry]

Haha I thought its just me...a big chunk of my troops haven't returned :(

[thin tree]

I've got none

[lone ferry]

By right, all the troops in state infirmary will auto recover after event ends right?

[worthy swift]

They did not 50 million gone

[thin tree]

I even checked the infirmaries....

[upper crescent]

Yes they are supposed to

[worthy swift]

There is going to be alot of unhappy players

[upper crescent]

Hell yea

[thin tree]

Starting with us?

[worthy swift]

I lost 3 full marches of t10s

[thin tree]

<@&742285797725569104>

☝️

We better start getting our tickets sorted then

[upper crescent]

Alot will quit if they don't get troops back

[weary spire]

Check, they should be back now

[worthy swift]

They are back. I was worried

[young canyon]

Sometimes a lag on returning troops its a pain in the proverbial I know

[weary spire]

It was a lag.

[upper crescent]

👍 cool, thank you

[worthy swift]

Thanks

[young canyon]

Without offence peeps pls remember that there is a hella lot of data processing especially after 400+ states of valiant

[thin tree]

I actually forgot about time change on top of that ..... Sheesh what's a weekend. Ty Papa Smurf

[storm elbow]

Devs might want to update instructions in the game to let players know it could take 15 minutes for troops to return.

15 minutes of lag is a bit much. Have to say, I use a lot of apps in my profession and this is the only one with such incredible lag issues.

This last update has created the worst lag we've all experienced in months. That spinning wheel can go on for ages and has a massive impact during WLK / VC / res war / res clash / fox test / the timed duel event. Any events where speed matters.

Why do we have to "accept" lag as being normal, when many of us spend more money on this app than most others? Kinda over it. If most other apps can handle the "data processing" without making users endure chronic lag, why is this game app the exception to the rule?

[upper crescent]

With last second hits you don't get a chance to claim your event rewards either, maybe the reward claiming needs to have an extended period.

[young canyon]

Put this in the #💭closed-game-suggestions channel is good idea

[ruby herald]

One of my members still have not gotten back there troops, is there still a wait period?

[dark cliff]

Waiting period. Is usually 10-15 minutes after ends. Was your alliance member hit by someone from your state during VC?

[ruby herald]

No they were hit from someone in another state

[dark cliff]

Just one hit? Should have got them back. Place a ticket

Now your alliance member only has roughly 100k units?

[ruby herald]

Two hit he got whipped

Wiped

[dark cliff]

He needs to send ticket in.

With these pictures included. Evidence

[ruby herald]

Ok thank you

[jaunty marsh]

The event does say they come back within 10 minutes. They won’t put in the event description that a lag might happen. They don’t even admit lag exists.

[weary spire]

Yeah

[ruby herald]

Do you know how long it takes , after placing the ticket for them to respond? He placed a ticket almost 24 hrs ago & he has not heard back from them . Nor has he been given back his troops.

[dark cliff]

Normally 24 hours.

[vale rock]

It can take up to 72 hours. Especially busy times like just after a major event has finished.

[ruby herald]

Thank you

[ruby herald]

Hello,
He has been sending them screen shots & they keep saying they are not getting them. But are showing uploaded on his end .

[stiff zealot]

I think there's an email address for support <@&742285797725569104>

[sage escarp]

You can send them an email to

Email: [e-mail]

[ruby herald]

Thank you

[charred crypt]

Yea what @sage escarp said lol

[jaunty marsh]

Great modding A+

[charred crypt]

You know how I do 😇

[remote girder]

🙌

[remote girder]

let’s call it a day

[jaunty marsh]

😒

[crystal echo]

Mods stick to the topic..!

[dark cliff]

🙈

[edgy granite]

Are forts safe during event

[dark cliff]

Yes

[jaunty marsh]

From other states, yes

Time to bring this back

[dark cliff]

It’s only been a few months 😂

[oak beacon]

Random question- does collecting diamonds and rss in foreign states count towards the states overall points and ranking?

[dark cliff]

Yeah.

Also points for you too

[oak beacon]

Thanks!

[balmy hill]

So Are we having Valiant or not This weekend?

[stiff zealot]

Looks like

[sage escarp]

Yes

[balmy hill]

I ask because some are saying it will replace Valiant

[jaunty marsh]

People speculate a lot with new events and love to spread rumors. Nothing is being replaced, nor has any game official said it will replace anything.

Best thing to do is come here or go to the official Facebook. People share a lot of false information in this game.

[sage escarp]

I’ve been told directly that nothing is being replaced.

[tight walrus]

While hunting out of state during VC, is it necessary to scout a HQ before attacking? Do rss limitations apply?

[sage escarp]

Do whatever you want 👍

[jaunty marsh]

I scout to make sure it’s not reinforced by someone bigger and also to see if it’s worth my time

[tight walrus]

Good info. Thank you both.

[jaunty marsh]

There aren’t really rules for SvS. State rules don’t apply for out of state stuff.

[viral hedge]

Will you please start rotating the start time so every time zone gets to go hunting at the start

Seriously why don’t start it at the same time every two weeks

[undone inlet]

I’ve asked in my report a few times - I’ll add in again to the next one. (Again, whether they will or not is the question, but I can ask again for us)

[viral hedge]

Thank u Ophie

Seriously why does the same time zone get the start of the best event every two weeks

[jaunty marsh]

Because the game always operates on UTC

It’s the most neutral it can possibly be

[viral hedge]

Does it have to?

[jaunty marsh]

Yes

There are too many time zones

And too many changing times

UTC always stays constant

[viral hedge]

If that is true why can alliance events Start anytime

[jaunty marsh]

Because they’re alliance events and also there is only one of those. Speaker.

But when you’re involving the entire game? It’s different.

[undone inlet]

I’d assume easier to control when it’s only effecting a couple alliances

[viral hedge]

The entire game is evolving on multiple levels nonstop

[undone inlet]

but defs keeps the suggestions coming

[jaunty marsh]

I live in California I wake up at 3 am 🤷🏽‍♀️

[viral hedge]

I live in Oregon and I don’t want to have to wake up all the time to get the best hunting at 3am

Rotating the start time doesn’t make it harder to code

[teal halo]

Here I am at 3am playing till 430. To go to work at 5🤦‍♂️

In California btw

[jaunty marsh]

But I mean that’s your choice to prioritize waking up at 3 am for a game when you have work at 5

[tender canopy]

Its new ownership.. it will become like mobile strike and release new shit constantly

[jaunty marsh]

New ownership?

[tender canopy]

Ive heard that p&s was sold to a new LLC

[jaunty marsh]

From who

Don’t see anything about that and if it had been I’m sure there would be news online about it.

[noble sail]

Lmao. 💯

[real veldt]

I totally agree. Rotating Start time, even if it’s just 2 different ones makes a lot of sense! Really hope it’s something they implement. Luckily, with the time change forward, it is 5am by me now.

[desert grail]

I personally love start time of valiant even if its 6am for me soemthing about being awake early and seeing the start of valiant is beautiful half asleep

[viral vessel]

There seems to be a bug here

One of our players lost all the RSS she got from@valiant

[dark cliff]

How? Did she spend? Or get hit?

[restive maple]

I didnt spend any of my rss or get hit. My battle logs were one of the first things I checked. I was off for only a few hours. I lost close to 60/70mil food, millions of wood and steel, and around 4.5 mil in gas. The gas was the first thing I noticed, because I was left with only 14 singles.

[dark cliff]

This is odd.

[viral vessel]

It was okay after the Event ended. Then just after like 3-4 hours, her rss are missing

[restive maple]

I left my phone on the charger to take a quick nap.

[viral vessel]

No battle logs and no transportation mail, right cae?

[dark cliff]

I don’t have an answer on what happened. This will need to be a ticket to cs. Hopefully you have screen shots

[real veldt]

I don’t truely mind it either. At least with current time being back to an hour later.

However, there are many that miss. It would be cool if they did 2 times, so others can participate at the start 🙂

[vale rock]

I don’t mind the 6:00 am start either, but many in both my states are getting up at ungodly 2:00 am just to park in the hub it a towers and go back to bed!
One time 6:00 am, next time 6:00 pm would be good that way, those who are asleep or at work can participate at the beginning at least every other one, without having to disrupt their sleep schedule in order to do so.

[real veldt]

Agreed. Also. People work. Gives a chance for others to join. I do not expect it to change though. However, it would be nice to see. Especially since they put in voting for Wasteland Conquest. Means they know it shouldn’t simply be one set time.

[vale rock]

It took them a year to improve arena, so it will happen, just not when we want it to.

[jaunty marsh]

WC is opt in. WK is not. I don’t see them doing that for events that are non-optional.

[vale rock]

True, but if we do t ask, we won’t get it for sure, lol.

[woven yoke]

Can you please alternate the start times for Valiant - UK time 6am -- Sleeping or at work, Guaranteed missed opportunities unless you're that dedicated !!!

[jaunty marsh]

It’s at 11 am UK time what

It’s at 3 am for me

[dark cliff]

6am for me

[viral hedge]

Please rotate the start time so other time zones can get the start of VC!!! Please please please

Like seriously how hard would it be to make it start one hour later each event

[jaunty marsh]

What is 1 hour gonna do? So it’s 4 am for me instead of 3? Big whoop. You can’t please everyone.

[finite hearth]

That's why the start times should rotate. Push it out 2 hours each time. UTC 0 this week. UTC +2 next week. UTC +4 after that, etc. That way, everyone gets a chance to have the event at their "preferred" time at some point.

Or push it 4 hours if 2 hours is too little.

[viral hedge]

If it moves up an hour every event eventually it’ll restart itself or you can do two hours or three hours

[dark cliff]

#💭closed-game-suggestions would be the place for suggestions

[weary spire]

I see and hear about a lot of people who train millions of T1 units as a meat shield for valiant.
Does the same work for T5 units as well? I know you would still need to have a vast quantity of troops if your stats aren’t all that great (I am probably average hq 33 who doesn’t spend any money) so my stats aren’t really where I’d like them to be.
My base question is do other tier units work the same as T1 for this purpose? Never quite understood the breakdown of hq battles and how I lose some battles I feel like I should be winning.

[remote girder]

ideally all the T1s should be T11, T10, or w/e your top troop tier is. but that would be too costly to train, that’s why people train T1s. no other reasons in particular, i believe.

[thorny mason]

Basically any troop level that doesn't cost steel and gas to train and heal

[spiral kite]

Is it safe to farm L7 tiles in no man's land during the first Zenith event? My gm is acting like it's no big thing but aren't those tiles open to enemy attack? Tia

[dark cliff]

Is it just inter state? If so probably isn’t a problem. When your against other states it is

[weary spire]

is it a betrayal? when I give information to other states like shooting. for valiant contest

[dark cliff]

Probably

[weary spire]

Let's put it that way. In the morning I was in friendly alliance, but they kicked me. Now I want revenge by helping other states in the valiant contest

[dark cliff]

How long have you been playing? You will become enemy of the state.

[weary spire]

In my state about 3 months and in ex alliance I was 3 weeks

Total over 1 year

[weary spire]

For me doesn't matter I'll be enemy of the state. They can burn me with my HQ 5. I want only revenge only one alliance

[fleet river]

I usually try not to get into a public slanging match, especially when we might have a language barrier. But in this case, I’ll make an exception. You were asked to move to our junior alliance for showdown as we want to maximise our alliance rewards. We have a waiting list of HQs that want to join. You were not to be left homeless.

And if we have unbubbled for VC then everyone should come and feed. Isn’t that what the event is about?

[split seal]

Hello. New to the app znd checking things out

[jaunty marsh]

Hello

[timid ferry]

It starts at 5am where I am...

[desert grail]

Nothing better than being up with a cup of coffee watching the start then curling up for a nap. I don't mind the early time tbh it starts 6am for me

[jaunty marsh]

Try 3 am

[stiff zealot]

I jump on at start, get most of my points defending, then pick off the hunters in my state. Usually can get everything done in less than an hour and occasionally a decent haul as well.

[jaunty marsh]

I get all my points from defending 😂

[stiff zealot]

I love those random attackers I hit that are still carrying tons of resources

[dry nacelle]

Me too. West coast ftw. 😭

[split granite]

@charred crypt people saying hi nothing to do with vc on the 27th would you like to redirect them? Ps I can burned in vc today in 5 mins 😂

[charred crypt]

Depends… did they say hi to me?

[split granite]

No, also think I’ll leave vc tonight can’t afford the heals

[charred crypt]

Easy fix….. don’t heal

[split granite]

I won’t heal you are right, did you redirect btw I was told to tag mods when I see rules being broken

[charred crypt]

I was off on the 27th idk

but I know about today

[torn moth]

Welcome to the server. We have channels for every topic so try to keep topics in relevant channels other than that I hope you enjoy your time here

[split granite]

You could scroll up and see for yourself but never mind enjoy your vc

[charred crypt]

Do you go for free kills or free rss?

[weary spire]

S94 admitting to a cheat?

[jaunty marsh]

That’s just binary

They can’t track you just by typing it in the chat. They’re messing with you. But also you can’t post ss of chats so might wanna delete.

[weary spire]

But regardless they are doing something to cheat

[dark cliff]

If you believe this. Report it with the screen shots to CS

[weary spire]

Lol I was just told I cannot post Ss? Is it just here bc I thought that’s what I was doing by posting it here

Trying to let a moderator know about it…so post in game cs

[dark cliff]

You can’t post screen shots here. But you can send them to CS in games

[weary spire]

Okay thank you

[dark cliff]

Other ways you can contact them

You can also
1: Send a PM to Puzzles & Survival Facebook fan page (https://www.facebook.com/PnS.37Games)
2: Email: [e-mail]
3. Contact support in game

[weary spire]

Perfect thank you again for your help 💜

[midnight parrot]

DM me the SS

[weary spire]

I contacted CS but I will

[tight stag]

@undone inlet

[undone inlet]

👍🏼🙌🏼 yeoooo

[tight stag]

Roooar 🦖

[midnight parrot]

[stiff zealot]

?

[jaunty marsh]

It’s how they do valiant. They pretend to be dinosaurs

[stiff zealot]

Lol.

[jaunty marsh]

Chain!

[jaunty marsh]

It’s been 12 hours I win

[stiff zealot]

What did you win?

[jaunty marsh]

Chain will have to send me $100

[stiff zealot]

Oooo

Guess you did win

[jaunty marsh]

He doesn’t know it yet

But those are the rules

[midnight parrot]

He's got $18.34

[jaunty marsh]

He better come up with 81.66

[midnight parrot]

I'll get him back out there. But I only let him keep 10%

[tame mist]

I need help, how I get personal points

[stiff zealot]

For valiant?

[tame mist]

Cv

VC

[jaunty marsh]

You can either hunt, gather in other states, or reinforce people in your alliance when they get hit

[stiff zealot]

Hunting gives points based on troop level you kill. Gathering gives points like the gather quests in Ace

[tame mist]

Thanks

[plucky swan]

Our hub was taken by another state during the last Zenith so I have not been hunting or transporting rss so the assholes don't get any taxes from me. My question concerns hunting in another state during Valiant, who gets those taxes?

[midnight parrot]

They go to your state tax pile

[plucky swan]

And our tax pile is going to an occupying state so no hunting for me this time

[weary spire]

I don’t have the troops to hunt still…. Still have to clear my deep heal and alliance infirmary

https://tenor.com/view/bubble-football-funny-sports-bouncy-hit-gif-17687089

Don’t forget them tonight.

[stiff zealot]

I'm going hunting in the morning 😋

[dark cliff]

Always at start

[stiff zealot]

Yep

Gotta watch for the big guys though

[midnight parrot]

The amount going to the other state is trivial

[hallow reef]

Do the shields overlap? If I was to use 3 8hr shields, would it cover the time for valiant conquest.

[dark cliff]

No unfortunately not

Beat opportunities would be a 3 day shield that costs 5000 diamonds. Or a 24 hour shield for 1000 diamonds. And activate it as close to start as you can to get full effect

[jaunty marsh]

All my points done in first 10 minutes 😂 reinforcing is great

[desert grail]

Or if your still around at the start pop an 8 then a 24 hour after valiant starts this is my personal fav

[wispy umbra]

Do you still get your troops back after the event ends

[jaunty marsh]

What do you mean still? No changes have been made to the event. You always have.

[sage escarp]

Same. Woke up 15 minutes before valiant, send out troops and went back to sleep for a couple hours and done.

[stiff zealot]

I'm just hitting people that are visiting.

[midnight parrot]

I was up 15 before, ate a cookie, read my messages and fell back asleep. Totally forgot why I got up

[jaunty marsh]

[sage escarp]

I’ve done that 🤣🤣

[midnight parrot]

I 3 day bubble at reset just to be safe

[zealous summit]

…what kind of cookie? 👀

Ummm. I usually wake up when it starts panicking that I didn’t put a bubble. But only sleep through the night when I don’t have a bubble. 😒

[midnight parrot]

Chocolate chip

[jaunty marsh]

I woke up in a panic that I hadn’t bubbled and it was only midnight lol

[craggy stone]

Forgot to bubble up last night I was drunk lol

[stiff zealot]

I bubbled but a 40 decided I looked tasty while hunting

[sage shell]

the amount of rss the state receives as a whole is negligible. one person abstaining for hunting and transporting won’t make much of a difference. these are amounts you’re taxed regardless of having lost your hub or not, it doesn’t matter much at all if approx 50mil total of both food and wood, 28mil of steel, and 6m of gas for the entire 2 weeks goes to another state. in terms of a hq30 build it meets the requirements for wood and steel, but is less than half the gas, and 20% of the food, and that’s to be shared around the state at the governors discretion

[sage shell]

i don’t think i’d be able to force myself awake for the start. im glad it starts at 8pm for me and im at work lol

[sage escarp]

I sleep poorly anyway, so figured I might as well try. Lol

[river sundial]

When you up against a max build account in one of newer state..😂😂

[midnight parrot]

[weary spire]

Ouch

[warped furnace]

does NAP apply out of state during VC? I thought the whole idea of nap is so that the state can present a unified front against other state.

[dark cliff]

Yeah. Typically nap is implied on any attacks within the nap alliances on another state even

[warped furnace]

that's my understanding of it as well. thanks!

[dark cliff]

You also lose troops if attacked on another state from someone from you state

Dead

[warped furnace]

ouch, so you dont get them back as it doesnt count as a part of the VC event

[dark cliff]

Nope. VC come back does not apply if attacked by a fellow person from you state

[warm seal]

It’s completely up to your state. Our state has a statewide NAP and a rule against attacking people from our state while in another state as well as tile and HQ hitting rules in other states during VC and WK. From what I understand, not every state has this rule and some use VC as a chance to settle grievances with members of their own state!

[warped furnace]

yeah thats our issue atm, we had some skirmish in another state due to differing definition of what NAP is.

[dark cliff]

This is unfortunate now. Because troops don’t come back. And should be compensated….

[weary spire]

Wow and you are one of the stronger 24s out there 😱

[weary spire]

We were attacked by members of the same state during VC ☹️

[dark cliff]

That sucks. Troops don’t return then

[weary spire]

Yes. What’s the point of an alliance if they are going to get attacked us
We’ are small

[dark cliff]

😫 maybe look into merging with a bigger alliance.

[weary spire]

We are trying

[dark cliff]

Good luck! Keep trying and growing

[weary spire]

Thank you

[dry nacelle]

Lol. But its so entertaining to burn alliances out of NAP. The NAP in my state is probably too big.

[fickle drum]

https://tenor.com/view/raven-nervous-anxious-gif-3572001

[dark cliff]

But you don’t honor nap on other states when farming?

[dry nacelle]

We do. I’m just remembering the old days when I was in young states without much of a nap .

[charred crypt]

Those were fun times

[fiery falcon]

Now some of the young states have the most boring naps.

[stiff zealot]

Same with old states... but I can't complain about NAP as, I too, am getting old

[zealous summit]

NAP or no nap. 🤨 In the end, it only comes down to “if you agree to a NAP, honour it”… if there isn’t a nap in place….Go big or go home and take an actual nap 😴

[fickle drum]

The bigger you get the more the rss aren't the issues but protons and tubes..

[stiff zealot]

Proton Accelerators and Nanotubes are the devil I tell you

[reef knoll]

Ohhh I’m with u on this one 🙂

[jaunty marsh]

This is why I’m staying a 34 for a very long time.

[reef knoll]

Feel our pain 🤣

[jaunty marsh]

I refuse lol 😝

[dry nacelle]

That’s unfortunate. I feel like you want a limited nap in a young state to learn the game. Plus it usually takes a minute for the huge power imbalances to appear.

[fiery falcon]

I agree with you Snickity. I am only there visiting and helping a friend but I see how this type of nap hurts the state. One of our littles was out hunting within the guidelines and a player from the governor's hive who was much bigger attacked her 15 times. I was able to help get it resolved but in any older state that attacker would have been food to me. Some of the younger states still have a lot to learn and time will provide that lesson. 🌹🌹

[shadow jacinth]

Can we get a improvement of how the matchmaking for VC is done?Last one my state 447 was put against 230, thats a huge difference in player power, making impossible for anyone in my state to actually play on VC, it was bubble or burn, even our biggest player didnt stood a chance.

I am not asking to be placed against likke state 500+, but at least against a state where the fight its balanced

[sage escarp]

VC is always your Wasteland King opponents. Don’t see that changing anytime soon since the two go hand in hand.

[shadow jacinth]

The problem stay the same

A state like 230 VS 447 isn't exactly balanced

We talking I suppose 6 months difference between both

[sage escarp]

Look at the top global event rankings and you can see there is as much if not more growth happening in those new states.
But also, not every match is fair. Never going to be.

[vale rock]

I’ve never, ever, had a VC where it was even close to equal!
Use them as learning tools. Even before battle chat our opponents would chat with us in messages. Ask question of them. Especially the ones who are slightly more might or hq level than you. You’d be surprised what you can learn from them.
And you can also go to their states and gather rss for points during valiant. For me it takes 8 hours constantly gathering both resources and diamonds, but I don’t fight over the stuff on the grey, I go further out.

[stiff zealot]

<@&742285797725569104>

[jaunty marsh]

Thanks

[weary spire]

👀

[fiery falcon]

👀

[stiff zealot]

I'm quick like chicken

[dark cliff]

👀

[torn moth]

Wow

I just got that

[fiery falcon]

😂 😂

[gray whale]

👀🍿

[fickle drum]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-gif-23918002

[reef knoll]

🐼

[stiff zealot]

Are the mods broken?

[undone inlet]

Sometimes. I know @torn moth glitches sometimes

[torn moth]

Yes wasteland Conquest is a new event

Whoops

[stiff zealot]

Did they forget to update your software again?

[torn moth]

Maybe

[stiff zealot]

How many of you are AI?

[jaunty marsh]

Yes

[zealous summit]

Ahem topic 🤣

[jaunty marsh]

Hot topic?

[midnight parrot]

We going to the mall?

[midnight parrot]

#🎯off-topic-chat

[stiff zealot]

I was just trying to get an idea of how many of you guys I don't want to face on the battlefield

[midnight parrot]

I'm sweet and huggable

[jaunty marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/lie-detector-maury-povich-paternity-liar-gif-12599954

[midnight parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/spin-cute-asian-baby-asian-baby-asian-girl-cute-asian-girl-gif-4981833

I'll hug myself then...

[jaunty marsh]

She’s so cute 🥰

[silent coral]

I need a bunch of rss and nanotubes. Wish we could take both...lmfao

[dark cliff]

Nanotubes and blueprints

[stiff zealot]

Y'all ready for the barbecue?

[dark cliff]

So boring now. We get small tiny states

[vernal patrol]

Does swift gather work on diamond mines?

[jaunty marsh]

No it does not

It tells you that if you read the fine print lol

[vernal patrol]

Oops missed that lol thanks

[stiff zealot]

I was able to raid for most of the morning with no one hitting me until a 36HQ with almost 6k% rider attack smacked me.

[dark cliff]

It’s not that. There’s barely anyone to go hit on the two states we have….and my state being big hard to even get any hits out lol.

[stiff zealot]

We had one state with a decent amount of people and another with way less. We were the middle state. But even our reinforcements aren't getting hit

[inland spruce]

I got all my points on my farm hitting bot accounts. Takes a bit longer but points is points

[desert grail]

I got all my points by being hit in an inactive while shielded

[indigo cosmos]

Troops return after event if hit by out of state, correct? Sorry, newbie here

[desert grail]

Yes if it's the other states. No if your state hits you.

[indigo cosmos]

Thank you. But no rss comes back and no “killed” troops? Only those in the state infirmary?

[desert grail]

No rss doesn't come back if it's in the state infirmary they are safe and will come back up to 15 minutes after valiant ends. (15 minutes is the latest ive seen my troops come back)

[indigo cosmos]

Killed troops are just dead?

[desert grail]

Nope they may be labeled dead but they still come back

[indigo cosmos]

Awesome! Thanks for the lesson 🙂

[desert grail]

No problem😊

[stiff zealot]

I feel like a bully...

[desert grail]

Ummmmm should I even ask?

[stiff zealot]

I zeroed a smaller HQ that was scouting bases in my state

I keep forgetting how hard I can hit.

[desert grail]

I did that once... their 40 came at me and zeroed me... I laughed cause it felt very karmatic 😅

[stiff zealot]

Well they have a 36 that smacked the crap out of me earlier so maybe it's reverse karma

He was very nice about it.

[desert grail]

The way things just work in valiant are crazy

I didn't have to do work today popped some shooters in an unshielded and got my points cause everyone seems to use riders

[stiff zealot]

I'm a rider...

I use all my troops though depending on what I'm going for

[desert grail]

I'm a shooter I tend to use them for reins since I got a ton nice way to get points lol

[stiff zealot]

Useful and a great idea

[inland spruce]

Shhhh don't let that secret out. Now they will all start sending fighters 😂

[desert grail]

I won't lie I have a few SUPRISE marches out there too lol

[stiff zealot]

I do surprise marches every wasteland. Keeps me occupied in a turret.

I'll send some t11 trucks to gather then a couple with full attack marches

[desert grail]

Suprise marches are best. Especially when a small decides to hit the unshielded 😂

[stiff zealot]

yes!

[inland spruce]

I've been surprised by those marches before. It wasn't as fun as you think. 😂

[desert grail]

Me too its hilarious when I hit em🤣

[stiff zealot]

I'm soooooo bored today

[jaunty marsh]

I used to put out T1s and then switch them for T10s when someone started marching on me.

[inland spruce]

I've seen you do that. When a big and little are teaming up I would reinforce the unbubbled people after the big hit for kills and the little was sending for RSS. Then leave before the big could hit me. Wash rinse repeat until the little ran out of marches or I ran out of diamonds

[jaunty marsh]

Smart

[inland spruce]

I have my moments

Not many but some

[jaunty marsh]

Still waiting on the next one

[inland spruce]

Might be a while

[jaunty marsh]

[inland spruce]

😂

[jaunty marsh]

The disadvantage of now being in a strong state is we have fewer people we can mess with in our opponent states

[inland spruce]

That is unfortunately true. I did however get all my points this morning and didn't even lose 3k troops.

[jaunty marsh]

I lost like 600k lol

[inland spruce]

That would be almost half of my troops.

[patent salmon]

We are in state 455. We are matched up with states 101 and 175. How is that a fair match up?

[jaunty marsh]

It’s the same two states you faced for WK. And you’re matched because you’re in the same league and with a similar or the same number of points (trophies).

[desert grail]

Wow i have 5m troops lol

[inland spruce]

I had a mentor of say questionable motives so I never had enough hospitals when I was young. So everytime I got zeroed I lost the majority of my troops. Thus I am way, way behind when it comes to troop numbers.

[stiff zealot]

I have enough hospitals. I just keep killing troops in WK

[desert grail]

Yeah I have 10 hospitals so I can a decent amount of injuries. I was taught 10 bootcamps and 10 infirmaries lol makes sense tho we all build differently

[inland spruce]

I was instructed to only have enough hospitals for 1 march. Sounded like good advice at the time. Not so much anymore. I now have 10.

[jaunty marsh]

What lmao he told you what

[inland spruce]

Yep, that what he told me. I think he was really worried about people becoming stronger than him.

[jaunty marsh]

Seriously? That’s insane lol

[inland spruce]

100% serious.

[desert grail]

What?!?!?!?!

I've never heard that from anyone

[jaunty marsh]

He is not a good person lol

[inland spruce]

We were basically just meat shields for the big alliance in the state.

[desert grail]

Ok granted I was told I only needed 5 infirmarys till I got bigger and didn't listen to that

[inland spruce]

I think I had 4

[desert grail]

I went 10 on my second main and she has over a million troops

She could probably handle a bit of valiant roo lol

[inland spruce]

I got lots of bad advice when I started playing and I was actually with the same group for a long, long time.

[desert grail]

That is why I was glad I got discord lots of questionable things tbh 😅

[desert grail]

I can agree with ya there up to something fishy lol

[stiff zealot]

Wow, just caught up. That's shady

[jaunty marsh]

It doesn’t surprise me. He is one of the reasons my alliance left our home state.

[fiery falcon]

We have someone like that in one of my baby states. It's terrible. Looks like the state is dying because of it.

[desert grail]

Ahhhhhhh that makes sense

[patent salmon]

So basically it would help us to suck at points (trophy wise). 😳😂

[inland spruce]

Yep

Keep losing your hub and you will eventually drop down in ranks and get weaker opponents. Or others like yourself that did the same thing.

[patent salmon]

😐. Sucks but thanks for info.

[desert grail]

Just have to say is anything truly fair in this game or make sense... 👀 🤣 I just roll with it and lose 2m troops during valiant

[sage shell]

i got 30mil kills and ⬇️ that many pts in under an hour 👀

with only 820k in state infirm. still 8.5 full marches of shooters, and 2.5 full marches of fighters and riders to play with

[desert grail]

😱 😱 👏

[sage shell]

all with t9s btw 👀

[desert grail]

Ooooooooo sweetness and very beautiful

[stiff zealot]

Officially my VC was lame...

[dark cliff]

Mine too

[stiff zealot]

I did help a smaller player get his points

[river sundial]

That ichi monster got me again. So glad his state move up and he be other people problem 😂

[stiff zealot]

Ooof.

[swift roost]

During VC if you have troops killed by people in your own state, are they given back at the end or not?
I have someone claiming they were all killed

[desert grail]

Same state they dead

[outer rover]

Any time you attack same state player it is permanent loss, unfortunately with the exception of nuka.

[swift roost]

Thank you

[outer rover]

If you have a state NAP, reach out and see if player/ Alliance can repay resources. Should be fairly standard for a NAP breach and most of the time outside hostile states, these are accidents and quickly corrected.

[jaunty marsh]

^

[indigo swift]

holy fk........least ya get them back

[fickle drum]

Had today nuka with 8 of noi.. no fun at all..

[tired reef]

Has anyone else got attacked by another state during Valiant, and when the event is over... you never got those troops back?

poor troops sitting in state infirmary and poof

just gone as in dead

[reef knoll]

That means that someone from your state attacked you. And those die and go to your infirmary and don’t come back after the event.

[tired reef]

i believe i know the difference between my state members and another. so no it was a different state member. so i am curious if there are others out there dealing with the same issue

[reef knoll]

Ok well in that case I would suggest contacting CC and sending them screenshots.

But I would be curious on what they reply.

[tired reef]

done. still didnt get fixed, and when pressed it was said the account will be banned if still bugging about it lol

anyways thanks for trying!

[reef knoll]

Oh wow. Could u send me ss in private and I’ll try to put it on my report, see if that helps.

[tired reef]

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@plucky night

[tulip temple]

They need something like this for in state

[inland spruce]

Like Valiant? Some states do. They call them purge days except you don't troops back.

[tulip temple]

Yea that’s what I’m saying is have one day a month to be able to test your troop

[jaunty marsh]

That’s what valiant is for. And Res war.

Or nuka

[tulip temple]

I understand that. But I want to do it in state….

Nukas algorithms suck. You go up against people ten times stronger than yourself. Res war you verse them one then they leave Never to be seen again.

[jaunty marsh]

Still can test your troops. Or go to a state with a purge.

[inland spruce]

Have both parties agree beforehand and tile hit. No deaths just heals and you can at least test march vs march. Otherwise find a purge state.

[fickle drum]

Agree and also already mentioned as request. Splitting up the 35-40 group

[jaunty marsh]

Split up how? There’s nothing higher than 40 atm. But that happens at the 3 higher brackets so it’s not specific to 35-40.

[fickle drum]

35-37 38-40 for exampl

[stiff zealot]

Guess I won't be leveling up any time soon in case that does happen

[jaunty marsh]

All the other brackets are by 5s, I don’t think that’s gonna happen

Anyway this isn’t about valiant lol

[stiff zealot]

You guys started it. Can't wait to see if I'll be able to hunt in VC next weekend

[jaunty marsh]

I know I was just saying it in general lol

[stiff zealot]

I figured. Someone has to give you guys a hard time

[fickle drum]

All the other brackets dont lead to Such a huge diff in power

[jaunty marsh]

You haven’t met my best friend who is a 29 and 625m might lol

#☠nukaland

[fickle drum]

I know. Sorry

[fickle drum]

I I know a 750mill hq28 farm 🤣

[neat marten]

So what exactly are the rules of engagement for this valent challenge and is there anyway to protect ones self if they do not wish to engage ?

[zealous summit]

The only way to protect yourself would be to put a shield up.

All other rules are… limited to what your state does too… your opponents from Wasteland King come again, but this time to raid HQs to plunder rss and get kill points. You will get your troops back after the event, but whatever rss is lost, is lost for good.

That’s including tiles. Everything is FFA with the exception of the hub and turrets.

If a member of your state were to attack you, during Valiant and kill your troops…they will remain dead. Only the troops wounded/killed from invaders from other states come back.

[neat marten]

Does that protect gathers ?

Also am I understanding we can jump between engagement states without tokens for those choosing to engage ?

[zealous summit]

It doesn’t protect gatherers. Those are considered easy points to attackers.

You can port over using a direct locator to either of your opposing states. You can stay there for up to 4 hours.

[neat marten]

Ok , thanks, and any NAP established by the state is superceded by invaders- right

I just warned my aliance to bubble up

[dark cliff]

Nap with in you state should stay in affect. Those coming from outside your state has no rules to follow. Also. If you are attacked by someone from your state. Your troops do not return at the end

[zealous summit]

Yes. NAP rarely applies to invading states but all established state rules should still apply. So yes, still good idea to bubble up.

[neat marten]

Ok going to pass the warnings on, think this is a 1st for our state. I think we might have had some outsiders with wasteland start to migrate in. So going to give a heads up that the last invasion may be nothing compared to the next wave

[jaunty marsh]

There’s an FAQ pinned to this channel that explains a lot of stuff that you can share, too.

Unlike WK, your troops will come back, if they do get hit while gathering or something.

But people come specifically to attack and get resources from anyone who is not bubbled. So it will be much different from WK in that during WK nobody on the green can be attacked. In Valiant, anyone can be. And they will be. Anyone without a bubble will be toast.

[neat marten]

Ok, I forget to ask, are our forts and aliance buildings safe during this events ? LOL also must be blind as a bat. Not seeing FAQ as seperate item on this event unless looking in wrong place.

[jaunty marsh]

It’s here. Swipe your screen from right to left.

[jaunty marsh]

But yes they are safe. So if you don’t have any shields, you can hide them in one building only. But it won’t protect your resources if they’re over the warehouse limit.

[neat marten]

Ok, just wanted to make sure they do not need reenforced. , and our resource gathering site is still protected also- right ?

So any troops gather on an aliance resource is safe

[midnight parrot]

Yes