👑wasteland-king

[final maple]

66m points for 6 frags 🤦‍♀️

[brazen vortex]

Not even perfs.
Compare that to a 1 hour Nuka and you get most of your Sunday back

[final maple]

Yeah, then I also tried to spend 2k diamonds for opened a super rally to the Hub, and get some more kills bc I could beat it 😅 too much wasted

[final maple]

Nuka is also hard to play if you don't pay, no pay no win, lol

[brazen vortex]

I mean part of it is just the fun of killing your foes and hearing the lamentations of their allies but c'mon, way cheaper to do that during VC.

[final maple]

And also costs speed ups for healing in it if you met your counter or stronger player

Rewards for Nuka still low, seriously

[brazen vortex]

If Nuka is too expensive then they shouldn't be looking at WK, here there be expensive dragons. 🐉

But it's good to have team exercises and have a unifying cause I think they just haven't balanced cost and reward

[final maple]

You remember the old rewards for Nuka before new updated perfect frags?

Was more frags

[brazen vortex]

Nope, I only make Nuka once a month, my sunday's are busy unfortunately

[final maple]

Ok.. But WK rewards really low, I healed a lot

[white totem]

They’re better higher up

[final maple]

Or making lower points, not worth it to be compared what we wasted for it

[white totem]

Eh. It’s a numbers game at that point. You want to move up, you’ve gotta take some heat.

[final maple]

Wasteland = really waste , lol

[white totem]

Meh. Could be worse

[quartz flame]

You should be loosing troops for fast comeback. The rewards are a bonus.

[brazen vortex]

No rewards for casualty points, just the casualty ranking points and ranking.
Fast come back's value is just a tool for Ace rewards.
Can get fastcome back just suiciding troops at your own states turret, still not fighting.

[pliant apex]

what you should do, if you're able to. Is fill your infirmary and alliance infirmary with t1s by getting them killed on tiles or whatever. Then you can suicide units into the turrets to get the fast recovery bonus since it fully counts towards the bonus since units sent to deep healing count as dead not injured. Then, 75% of your units come back from deep healing anyway over time and you've got a nice traning bonus. The first aid skill makes this even more efficient.

[final maple]

I healed after every hit, lol

[ocean ember]

This….troops are easy to train. Sacrifice troops to gain rewards is a no brainer to me. Unless you are set on keeping might for whatever reason.

[crystal willow]

For spenders, maybe. But please note that troops are not easy to train for f2p players.

[ocean ember]

So you would rather have more weak troops than fewer strong troops?

[crystal willow]

My point is that the 300% boost is not free. You still have to spend rss and speedups to take advantage of it. And these are not so easy to come by for f2p players.

[ocean ember]

I get that. Maybe it isn’t every time wasteland comes around. You get some decent rss and speedups as rewards though.

[crystal willow]

Yeah, rewards are tempting. So, each player can choose what they want. I think either choice is understandable. For me, although I have the rss and speedups, I still prefer to sleep more 😆

[ocean ember]

Ugh….yeah. Good thing I am an early riser by nature.

[loud siren]

Has anyone suggested to rotate the times for wasteland, once when Asians are awake and once when America is awake?

Not to overlook anyone, but Asia and America are direct opposites of each other

[quartz flame]

Asia is huge and is a lot more than 12 hour difference than the America's

[loud siren]

Understand

[crystal willow]

suggestion: make the earth flat again..

[spark briar]

Yeah we understand that, still sucks that we have to get up in the middle of the night every weekend to fight

[fallen iron]

In a new state… is the first zenith just for the state or will other states come in and fight for the hub as well

[white totem]

You never sleep, LIES!

[white totem]

It still affects a lot countries in our end too. Not just America. I don’t think they should alternate times between Asia and America, but I think they should alternate time a few hours at a time for every WW so everyone around the globe can have an advantage. This was suggested by another player in a another channel here lol…

@white ember

[white ember]

ME! That player was ME!

It would also change some state dynamics in terms of defensive/offensive planning. Adds a little spice to the mix.

[cinder patrol]

Zenith is in-state only

[fallen iron]

Thank you sm!

[quartz flame]

There are just as many people that can say Arena and events where its most points to win, end while they are asleep. Then it becomes a timing nightmare trying to make everything fair for everyone.

[kindred palm]

I apologize if this was asked before, but does anyone know what happens if nobody takes a state hub? I realize it’s unlikely, but my state has taken major losses fighting, only to be told that the other states don’t want it. Between that and peace deals, we are ranked way too high for our strength. We are considering just not occupying until we get a bit stronger.

[unkempt ibex]

if nobody occupies for 8 consecutive hours it reverts to whichever alliance has the longest total occupying time.

ive never seen it happen beforebut i imagine that if nobody occupies the hub at all for the whole 24 hours it would be the same thing as when another state takes your hub: in that you have no governor so state decrees can’t be activated and titles/loyalty boxes can’t be awarded , but the player with the highest hq level(/might however it’s decided) can increase the hq lvl limit for immigration into the state (if it hasn’t already reached the max lvl by itself). the only difference i could see if that were the case is that there wouldn’t be any taxes paid to another state as there’s no occupier

Unless you made it clear to the states you’re up against that you don’t want the hub at all - and they were adamant they don’t wanna take it even when there’s no fight being put up - all somebody would need is 1 sec of occupying time and their alliance would be able to win the event if no one else held it

and the amount of times i’ve seen small new players from within the state send a march against the hub cuz the event page has told them to fight for the state is crazy, so i think it would be an incredibly difficult thing to organise, even hypothetically,

[kindred palm]

Thanks that’s what we were thinking also. I will let everyone know what happens if we do it.

[old quest]

If you lose WK I know highest might is in control of the gate but do they have the ability to do bulletins?

[spark briar]

I think we can pull it off! We don’t have any little alliances or really any new players.

[gusty dawn]

5 or 6 am every Saturday morning is a timing nightmare.

Those events don't result in consequences for the entire state.

This is why matching against KOR/COR states is a nightmare for anybody in a far times zone- Wasteland/VC start in prime time for them; F**k everyone else.

Here are some tears for their hero duel difficulties that only impact the individual.😭 😭 😭

Rotate the times.

Edit- imagine using Hero Duel as justification of keeping State vs State events in the same time slot, when there isn't even a proper channel for it, lol.

Pathetic.

[quartz flame]

The rewards for Arena are 183626495629xs better than rewards for taking a hub.

[gusty dawn]

And 100% unattainable unless p2w.

[quartz flame]

P2w is, always was and always will be the model of this game.

[gusty dawn]

Then let us not even mention fairness, like ever, in this discord.

[sage spear]

You are confusing fairness and equity. It isnt equitable that players who pay more get an advantange, but it is fair that those who contribute more ($$, time, effort, skill) get more in return.

[quartz flame]

Everyone has the equal opportunity to spend as much or as little as they want to get out of the game.

[gusty dawn]

We started on starting times for Wasteland & this has devolved into garbage comparisons between ending times of events that most have no chance of seeing rewards from, to the initial issue- Wasteland being at an inconvenient time, and should be rotated, as most states require participation for NAP considerations.

[gusty dawn]

Except we can't pay for a better Wasteland starting time. 🤣

[sage spear]

Wasteland is a 24 hour event. Most states don’t require (and cannot have) every single willing player participate at the moment it starts. Lots of time to join and contribute. Do I want to wake up at 3am for wasteland? Not really, but I do because it is worth it to me. And all other players around the world have other times and priorities that they get to make decisions about that work for them.

[gusty dawn]

@sage spear, then why is fairness being discussed in this context with relation to Wasteland starting time and arena end times?

Why is it an issue to rotate the starting times, perhaps on a monthly basis?

We all saw how one wrong button pressed pushed everything back by a week or more due to everyone getting an unexpected Zenith event, yet this adjustment is impossible?

PnS would rather be lazy than fair & compares apples (Wasteland start times) to oranges (arena end times) as justification.

Let them eat fruit?!

[gusty dawn]

And the 24 hr thing is BS, too; it's 8-10 hrs- the first ones.

[quartz flame]

WK is offset from the normal reset to give some fairness to all of the players. If you rotate one, you have to rotate them all.

[sage spear]

It is definitely 24 hours long. Lots of time to get your points if you choose to do so.

[sage spear]

Aᵏạ✿Ṋýạɳ’s point was simply that not every single aspect of the game is the same for everyone. Certain players will have advantages in some aspects and disadvantages in others. How people chose to address these aspects for themselves is entirely up to them.

[edgy spade]

Seems a bit pointless to me. Reset is midnight for me, which means I'm late to start GAC. Should we rotate that too? Seems a bit excessive.

Throughout the event, much like in GAC, people of different timezones come online and others go offline. So seems fair overall.

[gusty dawn]

This is about the Wasteland King event being used by many states as alliances participating for NAP status, and the first 8 hours being the important part.

I understand this is an issue with the states themselves, but it would be a great improvement for this event's starting time to be rotated.

I'm all for any events being rotated, but reset time would be nearly impossible, as the game is constantly running & reset needs to be static.

I am not a fool or just trying to get my way; Wasteland King is the only event in which the Governor of a state is determined, and the time should rotate to offer fairness.

[edgy spade]

Well I think the point is that it takes 8hrs consecutive to hold.

In theory, if it starts at 3am for you, you could take the hub at 10.59am and then hold it til 7pm. At that point, would you consider it unfair for others for whom your 7pm is their 3am?

Atleast with a set time, you can get a bit of a routine, and it never changes. If your alliance wants the hub you know what time you all need to be on. This starts a precedent for rotating everything in game to be honest

[white ember]

Rotating the start time changes the dynamics and makes it somewhat more interesting. May not play as big a role in Wasteland as it would in Valiant when it definitely helps to be active right when it starts

[finite folio]

I see that my state is ranked platinum- is there a way to see what other states fall in that category?

[white totem]

No sorry hun, wish that was an option as well.

[crystal willow]

select history rank -> trophies

[white totem]

That’s history though won’t give you current

Will it?

[crystal willow]

it seems up to date to me wrt our own state

[white totem]

Based on that you wouldn’t know who went to the next rank or stayed the same. So you wouldn’t have an idea who can be your opponent that only shows top 100

[crystal willow]

true unless you grab a screenshot every cycle. but according to patch notes, states wouldn’t be matched across different tiers.

[white totem]

So the ppl in silver and gold won’t be able to see…we can cause we are higher

[white totem]

That was only for the first war, after that it’s any state from that tier

[crystal willow]

see what?

[white totem]

Gold and under won’t be able to see which states are in the same tier as them. Because that list only shows top 100.

[crystal willow]

ah i get your point. yes, true…

[gusty dawn]

It may only take 8 consecutive hours to hold, but it's tiresome losing every other weekend if your state is using this event participation- being there at the start, as a prerequisite for NAP status.

Your argument for a set time, works with two weeks notice to prepare, as well.

I just don't understand why there aren't time brackets like there are for Reservoir Wars/Alliance clash.

[limpid delta]

T9 Shooters 209,200

[quartz flame]

There are brackets like res war.

[gusty dawn]

But not starting time choice, like res war.

[quartz flame]

That would narrow the Alliance that you could get in the fight, making match making worse

[gusty dawn]

Then we just go around with the same circular logic when I say "it isn't fair for the one event that determines the next two weeks in a state doesn't shift in starting time," and you justify it by pointing at something totally different that only applies to an individual.

Shift the Wasteland King event starting time every month by 2-4 hours, then it will be fair; until then, pleased do not speak of fairness in regards to the Wasteland King event- as it is not fair, & will not be unless starting times rotate.

[quartz flame]

Then it won't ever be "fair" almost no chance they will ever change WK times. This game is a clone of others games that work the same way and have been the same way for years

[gusty dawn]

4 hour shift every month
6 months × 4 hrs shifts = 24 hrs.

2 times a year, Wasteland King starts in an optimal time for everyone.

Or we can continue to give KOR/COR the time slot advantages every single Wasteland event.

[white ember]

It was updated after end of last wasteland, i believe

[tardy moon]

Any of ya'll have like a beginner's guide to this event

LOL

[cinder patrol]

What do you want to know

[tardy moon]

I know the general run-down of it being state vs state.

I'm curious if there's any tips. I searched around google, this specific channel, and other places but couldn't find anything useful.

[cinder patrol]

Are you asking as just someone who wants to participate in it?

[tardy moon]

Yeah, well and also just for knowledge

I run an alliance and I want to inform people how it works

[cinder patrol]

Because there’s honestly not much to it as a participant. The best advice to give is: follow the orders of the leadership. It’s hard to stay organized and it’s always best to ask where you’re needed before making any moves

It’s really on a state-by-state basis what to expect or do

So you’re better off asking your governor what your alliance needs to know about what your state plans are.

But in general…don’t attack another state without checking with WK leaders first to see if there are any NAPs in effect and what they are.

Stay off the blacktop unless you’re bubbled

Don’t attack your own state

If you actively defend your state, always check in with the leaders running the war before doing anything

[tardy moon]

This really helps, thanks gee

😄

[cinder patrol]

You’re welcome ☺️

[cinder patrol]

Oh also, tell them not to gather on the blacktop during the war. Especially during occupation time. Once occupation is over, if they send T1s to gather and they get tile hit by another state, the attacker gets no points 😂

[dry ember]

Question :
If I jump to another alliance for wk during showdown do I lose my showdown rewards?

[crystal willow]

not if you return before showdown ends.

[dry ember]

Thank you

[crystal willow]

be sure to complete your current quest, though. any incomplete quest will be considered as cancelled when you quit alliance.

[dry ember]

I have completed them all

[crystal willow]

does anyone know what happens to the coffer if not allocated before next WK starts?

[cinder patrol]

Nothing. Just stays there.

[crystal willow]

so next governor will have the leisure of continuing to allocate them?

[cinder patrol]

Yes

[crystal willow]

Thank you

[winter nest]

Only 1 state to fight??? Wtf is going on with this game???

[void badge]

Wouldn't be the first time that happened.

[rancid halo]

State 36 wants a treaty today State 98 and 97

[cinder patrol]

If your state is at a high tier there may not be enough partners to match with. So yeah. It’s happened before.

[winter nest]

This is the first time i see something like that. We never hold a others state hub so don’t know why is this happening

[devout thistle]

Does it matter what troop type holds a hub or turret? Or the ones that reinforce them?

[atomic mural]

How are occupation points calculated. I've a bigger march than some who have already achieved full points. The person super rein on my turret also has the biggest march. It makes zero sense.

[white totem]

Are the folks who are in the hub the ones who gained faster? If so, that’s why

[atomic mural]

In other turrets also.

So basically 1st rule of wasteland. Get in the hub.

People with 50k or more deficit in march getting full occu points 1st is bizarre to say the least.

[crystal willow]

interesting thought - does anyone know what happens if an untagged player wins the hub?

[cinder patrol]

Presumably they are gov

[digital latch]

You must be part of an alliance to participate

[crystal willow]

ah you are right. i forgot about that. thanks

[cinder patrol]

Didn’t even know that lol but never look at the rules haha

[gusty dawn]

This event needs an opt out.

Absolutely garbage.

[crystal willow]

the design of the new rank system is disastrous. many states try to stay behind on trophies with some states intentionally losing their own hub… does not seem right

[gusty dawn]

Once the hub is secure, this event just becomes an weak sauce Valiant that allows chicken fried cowards the opportunity to troll.

Pointless after hub is secured.

[hollow solstice]

Did any other states not recieve gov title?

[white totem]

Calculated based on time, not troop quantity I believe. Someone please correct me if wrong.

[atomic mural]

In turret same, if not longer duration.

[cinder patrol]

You are the first person I’ve ever seen say they think it’s pointless. You can still earn points after

[gusty dawn]

I don't want points- I want to kick these chicken-sh its out of my state.

[cinder patrol]

Dude chill. That’s the event? They’re not chickenshits. They’re playing the game. Tell your state to stay off the blacktop. That’s what literally every other state tells their own to do.

[gusty dawn]

It'd be fine in lvl 7 tiles spawned outside of the Wasteland & my Saturday wasn't wasted every single week, so chicken-sh its can get points.

Why don't they grow a pair & hop into the Wasteland?

[proper mural]

in 32 it appointed an r3 automatically gov that no longer plays

[hollow solstice]

figures in ours it didnt want to give the title at all then it just finally said fine take it we good here now butthat is shit that its given to someone who isnt even playing

[proper mural]

we were just wanting to see if any other states were having issues

[reef sandal]

Loving this only getting 1 state for wasteland absolutely shit idea lol

[still kernel]

When your hub is shielded because you took another state hub how long does it last?

[cinder patrol]

Until you leave

[cinder patrol]

It’s because there aren’t enough states in your grade.

[coarse gorge]

Ok I’m in a debate. Three different things

1. The turrets do a set amount of damage no matter what tier troops and how many are in them?

2. During wasteland turrets will still fire on the hub if they are manned by a different alliance from the same state?

3. How much damage do turret shots do? Is it a set amount or does it vary?

[supple crag]

Turrets will fire on the hub if any other alliance in the state or out of the state holding that turret is different than the alliance that is in the hub. Also any troops killed by that turret do not receive the 300% training boost.

I believe that the higher the troop level that is in the turret will cause more damage but I'm not 100% on that.

[cinder patrol]

1. From my memory of my own experience, the troops in the turret matter. The stronger the are, the more damage.

2. As long as it’s a different alliance, doesn’t matter what state they’re from. Can be an in-state alliance. Two alliances from one state is just bad form. You’re killing your own state. Turret caused deaths don’t get counted by fast comeback.

3. See #1

[coarse gorge]

Thank you

[coarse gorge]

Thank you

[crisp brook]

We had this too today. We were up against just 28.

[modest obsidian]

does anyone know where the taxes are collected from when you lose

[white totem]

For the occupation…if 8 consecutive hours are not reached, is the longest occupation time based on overall hours or longest consecutive hours occupied?

[marsh saddle]

Overall

[white totem]

Thank you 😊

[cinder patrol]

Transporting resources and sanctuary attacks

[modest obsidian]

Thanks gee!

[reef sandal]

Strange the last few we have had 2 so not sure why

[cinder patrol]

2 other opponents? Or 2 total?

[reef sandal]

Sorry 2 other opponents

[grand hound]

Hi can i ask... If we dont hold 8 hr... We hold twice around 7hr... And oponent dont hold to 8 hr... How this count...

Example
We hold twice
First 7:15 min
Second hold 7:20 min

Oponent hold 7:25 min...

Who win?

[hearty turret]

I would contact CS, they might be able to fix it

[proper mural]

already sent in a help ticket :))

the player is actually deceased and we made her alliance into our state alliance. but we still have her account in it and just removed her from r5 a month ago and she hasn’t been r5 since. the player that was going to be made gov was placed as r5 and when she selected herself as gov it somehow made the deceased player gov. don’t really know how, i assumed a glitch in the code somewhere 🤷🏻‍♀️

[hearty turret]

Awww my prayers to her family and those that knew her! I'm guessing there was a glitch in the code. I have a tiny account in 32 that hangs out with some friends. I feel like I remember sending a camp to a memorial for a player about a month ago?

[proper mural]

yes a russian player. that would have been her

[quartz flame]

Who ever held for the longest overall

[grand hound]

Thats mean ours two hold together?

[quartz flame]

Yes, if that ends up being the majority time. 16h 1s is the least to win with a 8 hour straight hold.

If it just between 2 alliances

[grand hound]

Yes i understand now

[peak mason]

if other state hold for 8 hours straight but our state hold more than 14 hours. who will win?

[cinder patrol]

The 8 hours straight

[peak mason]

ok. thanks

[turbid jungle]

When does the 300% training boost after Wasteland king start? I thought it usually started by now.

[sage spear]

It starts automatically if you lose your hub, otherwise the Governor has to start it manually. You should ask them when it is starting.

[placid vapor]

Can we please fix the state matching algorithm. We are being paired with states that are huge in strength compared to us and have zero chance against them. Why spend money, time, and energy on a game that sets us up for failure?

[cinder patrol]

It’s the new grading system. It’s extremely flawed.

[glass edge]

If the organization is already there but not the numbers, you can try recruiting immigrants to make your state stronger. If you’re not a growing community or people are leaving for whatever reason, it’s hard to have a strong enough army to defend your hub and jump up the leagues in my opinion.

[cinder patrol]

But some people don’t want to jump up. There are states that are intentionally losing to stay low. Mine will likely be one of them.

[glass edge]

Ohhh okay, that makes sense. Yeah, slow and steady is a good strategy too. Jump up when you’re ready and want to 🤗

[crystal willow]

it is a very good demonstration that new things are not necessarily better things…

[marsh saddle]

Only wounded. Unless your infirmaries / deep healing is maxed then they will die

Yeah same applies. It should say casualties xxxx troops and right underneath wounded would match that number of casualties

For example @white totem

Not necessarily, the “killed” portion is what is not going into the normal infirmaries. I think it can still go into deep healing but you wouldn’t know their cap.

[crystal willow]

that killed number is the number of troops that “would have died”, if under normal circumstances.

oh never mind. it’s rss tile attack. i thought it was something else. in rss tile attack, attacker’s killed number means their infirmary is full. sorry for the confusion. should have read earlier posts.

[whole finch]

For state that is conquered and have to pay tax, how exactly does that impact the individuals on the conquered state? We lost our WK over the weekend but so far it just looks like business as usual aside from not having an in-state governor.

[glass edge]

Your league affinity score goes down. As you go down the leagues, WK rewards get smaller and smaller. You also don't get title boosts nor get to allocate boxes with rewards in them like rss, speed-ups, and frame buffs to help with WK costs. But you should also get paired with easier states to defend against at some point, until your community is strong enough to start climbing.

[whole finch]

Those things I understand. I'm asking about the resource tax in particular. As a player from a conquered state, I expect some of my rss collected will go to the winner state. However I see no indication of getting less rss from gathering so I'm trying to understand the tax aspect of WK

[glass edge]

Ohhh, the taxes come from your transport and raid taxes. I think 30% of whatever your HQ's raid wherever goes to the winning state, and depending on your sanctuary's trading post level, a percentage of whatever resources you transport to your allies goes to them as well. It doesn't touch what you gather

[cinder patrol]

The taxes are always taken out when you transport rss to your alliance members or raid a sanctuary, so you will see no change. It’s just now, instead of the rss vanishing into thin air, they go to the conquering state’s coffers.

[rugged plover]

Yolo PNS fams....... Question about the 60:20:20 formula used for assigning hub/turrets.... I know some dont use it, but whats the reasoning behind it? Are their any other formula's to use in WK

[pastel mesa]

Maybe question has already been asked, but with Christmas falling and Friday and Saturday this year, will there be a wasteland war on this weekend ?

[cinder patrol]

Wasteland will be the same days as always. This week is Valiant. Not everyone celebrates Christmas.

[pastel mesa]

Off course I know not everyone celebrate Christmas but was wondering as we have Xmas trees everywhere and had nothing for Hanukah...

[knotty canopy]

I knew someone was going to say something about Christmas Deco. As many religions there are out there I was very surprised that the decorated .

[cinder patrol]

I’m Jewish. There’s not much to decorate with for Hanukkah. Hanukkah is also an extremely trivial holiday for us that was only made big in western countries so Jewish kids didn’t feel left out from Christmas.

[cinder patrol]

They did it last year as well. I like it. There was snow when I first started playing in February.

[quartz flame]

I got stockings for dog and kitten, my first ever xnas decorations

[proud schooner]

I was just wondering the same thing. Wasteland will be New Years Day I know I’ll have a hard time getting folks online for that day.

[cinder patrol]

Awww 🥰 I have always had them just because my dad isn’t Jewish so I grew up with a tree and a stocking and my mom will put up winter decorations but not like specifically Christmas things lol. She likes snowmen.

[sage briar]

Does anyone know how many times you can rename a state?

[quartz flame]

None of my family are Christian, wasnt even talked about

[cinder patrol]

Makes sense. I know my cousins had that. It was just a regular day for them. It was really weird when I was living in Israel, I found myself missing all the Christmas stuff 😂 because Hanukkah was not a big deal at all. There was no marker of any holidays, and it was so bizarre for me.

[polar magnet]

Our state is overhauling our wasteland planning and some of us feel we aren't clear on one detail.

With hero boosts, for the heroes with the troop attack boosts ie Meyers (fighter), Requiem (shooter), and Mars (rider) - does it matter which hero is sent to Wasteland to boost the main troops? ie can I send Meyers (fighter) who is my strongest hero for troop attack boosts because of my apex weapon, with my riders, or am I better off sending Mars (rider) who has weaker troop boosts?

With lairs, it doesn't matter. I get further with riders and Meyers (fighter), but we're wondering if this is also the case with player vs player battles and wasteland defense.

Also, any other wasteland planning tips are welcome.

[inner sable]

From what I’ve gathered from others is that only four of the hero’s in the line up apply tactical damage. The fifth does not. I use meyers as well in my rider lineup. And have seen good results

[crystal willow]

we tested and 5 heroes with tactical skill enabled does more dmg than 4 heroes with tactical skill, with everything else identical. the replay has some bug that does not display the 5th hero’s tactical skill properly sometimes (according to CS).

[polar magnet]

Thank you!

[polar magnet]

Thank you again!

[sharp coyote]

Four tactical skills of heroes of the same type apply only in battle. But with rallies in WK you usually have other troop types in your rally too, which means the fifth hero can use his tactical too, but only for a different troop type. So Meyers in a Rider lineup is a good choice to boost fighters (at least in case of a super rally/super reinforcement)

[dawn acorn]

<@&742285797725569104> How many additional reward boxes of each type does a state get if they beat another state at WK?

I scrolled through last few weeks of posts in this channel but did not find an answer to this

[quartz flame]

Should be an extra

[dawn acorn]

Extra full set per state?

[hearty turret]

Yes, if you take another state’s hub, you get all of their boxes as well as your own

[nocturne spire]

I'm sorry to interrupt, is there a difference with a memorial player? Like will it be labeled in some way?

[hearty turret]

I don’t think so. The state just had people post camps for a day or two in memory of her

[opaque lily]

Question I'm sure someone here knows: If your Zenith is won by a foreign state, do you have them as an opponent for the next WK?

<@&742285797725569104>

[white totem]

No that doesn't mean you will have them again

[opaque lily]

Thank you~

[green turret]

Is there any position other than the r5 that can change commanders in turrets during wasteland?

[crystal willow]

militarist or overseer

[green turret]

Thank you

[nocturne spire]

Thank you

[fallen iron]

In regular state zenith.. can you attack players on the green… or just in the mud

[cinder patrol]

Zenith is your state only, so you can attack anyone, anywhere

[white totem]

Question: some people in our state believe when you super reinforce a hub or turret everyone then has the same amount of troop AtK, DEF, HP. So for example if all riders in hub or turret then they also have the same percentage in Rider AtK, DEF, HP. Is this accurate and if not, what does super reinforcement mean?

[sage spear]

Super Reinforcement means that all troops in that building now have the same stats as the Captain. Essentially all of the reinforcements become “their” troops.
Because most people specialize on 1 troop type, Super Reinforcement usually works best if all supporting troops are the same type. But if the Captain has a good balance and troop stats, then it is helpful to have a balanced support lineup.

[fierce fable]

Has the rule changed for populating the black top with camps during WK?

[fresh prairie]

As far as?

[fierce fable]

Being able to set occupy camps on the black top vrs an actual HQ.

[fresh prairie]

You can put your hq in the black. Can’t place camps. But you are subject to attack from opposing states. So stay shielded.

[fierce fable]

Thank you for the reply

[pastel hollow]

So… what happens to your state if you lose wasteland king?

[fresh prairie]

You don’t get titles and you pay taxes. (I’ve never noticed a difference)

[pastel hollow]

Thank you. Does the governor’s title say the other states name?

[fresh prairie]

No.

[cinder patrol]

You would have no governor. You’re just occupied.

[fresh prairie]

Gee to the rescue. Haha I was just looking to see the message

[pastel hollow]

Okay. Was just trying to “understand” what occupied looked like. We have not lost one yet but I’m curious because you never know.

Thanks ladies. If you have more specifics…I can read them later on

[fresh prairie]

For visual affects

[pastel hollow]

Exactly what I wanted to know and see

[dense crystal]

If you rally into a turret rather than just attacking, does Eve's nanoweapon bonus contribute to the defense stat?

[white totem]

The same taxes you pay for transportation and burning will go to the other state so it basically same shit.

[fresh prairie]

All weapons are passive. If you have them equipped they should work. Which bonus are you referring to? Rally size?

[dense crystal]

Rally troop stats

[fresh prairie]

Should already be added when you have weapon equipped

[cerulean ore]

Hello Guys and Girls, Man and Woman's :D Is it worth to have State Wasteland Alliance for Wasteland? I know Tech would be bit lower. But that few% more when You got 4-5k+ % already is like small glass at Ocean

Or I'm wrong somewhere?

[cerulean ore]

But for burning it's 30% tax ;)

[winged peak]

Anyone else against only 1 other state?

[desert lily]

yes, only 1

[sage spear]

It happens when there number of states in your bracket isnt divisible by 3.

[desert lily]

so not because of the update

[sage spear]

No

[desert lily]

thank you

[winged peak]

Well thats crap

[snow wraith]

We only have 1 other state too

[atomic coral]

Why do we need to bubble during Wasteland king?

[snow wraith]

This sucks.

[atomic coral]

Yes, it’s my first and I really don’t know

[cinder patrol]

Only if you’re in the wasteland. Otherwise you don’t need to. Wasteland is the only area open to attack during this event.

[cinder patrol]

Think of it like giant res war

[atomic coral]

Ok thank you

[crystal willow]

This is how you wear down a HQ40 🤣

[cinder patrol]

Hooray

[crystal willow]

seriously if he does not heal he will go down 🤣

[cinder patrol]

Eventually lmao

[upbeat prism]

Hi everyone, may I know how to reset clock at hub, was it just press the reset button? Or we need all people out of hub? Thanks

[steep tulip]

So i thought you were only supposed to get paired with states close to your age lol

I'm in 207 and we got state 5 and 173

[gaunt berry]

It was only at the start of this new ranking thing. Now all states get paired according to its league

[steep tulip]

ahhh gotcha

[sharp coyote]

I wouldn’t advise on intentionally resetting your own state‘s hub clock. But to do so you would need someone from another alliance temporarily occupy it instead.

[upbeat prism]

I see, thanks

[nocturne geyser]

Good morning, I am participating in Zenith war today in a new state. How long do I have to occupy the tech hub?

[inner sable]

Don’t worry he doesn’t wear down easily

[sharp coyote]

8 hours consecutively or longer than any other alliance in total over 24 hours.

[agile dock]

No you can reset by getting out then getting back in. The aim is to get 8 continuous hours. If states aren't attacking then you can reset. it allows alliance members or allies more of a chance to get occupancy points

[upbeat prism]

Yes that’s what I want

[unkempt ibex]

The alliance AFA from state 193 broke the NAP we had agreed upon, be wary of them if you come up against them

specifically Flash Z and MXL

[wraith shoal]

State 5 are cool people and will normally make a nap with you if you ask.

[steep tulip]

yes, they are and we did

[wraith shoal]

Good deal 🤙🏻

[white totem]

No I meant the taxes that go to the other state is the same cost as if the state was your own. Meaning it’s nothing costing you extra lol

Lmfao @crystal willow Taxi Party 🎉 🎊 🎈 it was fun

Because Battle division Chat is for bra discussions lmao

[inner sable]

That’s you? Lol. Glad our state could help with the undies

[low crescent]

When does comeback boost count from ??

If I had no casualties after we secured our hub but I got casualties capturing other hub do I get come back boost then ??

[sage spear]

If your state secures their hub, the governor has to turn it on. If your hub gets secured by another state, it starts automatically once they have secured your hub.

[low crescent]

I understand that hillside thanks.

Just try a figure out if I got casualties after we secured our hub if that would count to comeback boost

[sage spear]

It is supposed to be cumulative, so even if you obtain casualties after it starts running, they are added to the total, but I can’t confirm that from my own experience

[white totem]

Is anyone else having a problem the game is not letting us appoint a governor

@white totem

[white totem]

Not that I know of

[white totem]

The game just glitches big time we decided just to make our chosen governor R5 picked there name and randomly picked a person in the alliance to R5

[vast bay]

Guys my infirmary filled and the rest went straight to deep healing, weren’t they supposed to go to alliance infirmary first or did they change the order?

[sage spear]

They changed the order a little while ago. I am personally super happy about it since I don’t get troops stuck or sacraficed in some other alliance’s infirmary when visiting during Wasteland.

[twin basin]

Does fast come back work for troops that get killed by turrets

Like my troops were in the hub

Because it’s confusing as hell

[cinder patrol]

No. If they’re killed by another alliance from a turret while you’re in the hub, they’re just dead.

[twin basin]

That’s dumb but thanks

[vast bay]

Yeah it’s better this way, thanks

[cinder patrol]

Yep lol

[twin basin]

Like it just doesn’t make sense but

[sage spear]

If you think about it from the side of the game, you receiving damage from the turrets only hurts your troops, not both sides like a direct attack. So less resources are used (bought) to heal, so this way is supposed to incentivize you to attack back (meaning more troops overall that need healing and replacing) and not just allowing yourselves to take one sided damage.
My theory at least

[celest shore]

i have a problem, i was the R5 at the winning alliance and I chose myself as a new governor, I don't know how it happened but games switch the title to someone else, who can't have this role. Is there some way to change that?

[cinder patrol]

No. It’s set for 2 weeks :/

Next time you can just leave it for 2 hours and it will go to the R5 automatically. Know that doesn’t help now but for anyone else wondering.

[celest shore]

Good to know 😂

[scarlet wing]

Can someone explain to this me. We kept our hub but we lost trophies? In the description it says no hub = loss of trophies but we do have a hub, we have ours. And that should count as having one and zero would be if we lost a hub.

[brazen vortex]

Was it taken over at any point by invaders?

We only got 200 trophies and we maintained our hub the whole first 8 hours

So seems holding your hub = 0 hubs?

[crystal willow]

losing trophies is a good thing ain’t it?

[white totem]

In our experience yes 🤣

[cinder patrol]

I seriously hate this tier system

[scarlet wing]

No we kept our hub, we didn’t conquer or lose. I thought maybe I misunderstood but I posted in the bug room and a mod replied so I guess it’s a glitch. hopefully they can fix it

[river agate]

We cant assign a governor. The winning alliance r5 has no options in the hub. Are we missing a button somewhere?

[cinder patrol]

It’s not in the hub. It’s a little button that pops up on the bottom right. It’s the governor’s hat.

[fresh prairie]

I hope so.

[white totem]

We are, our lovely @crystal willow did the math already.

[fresh prairie]

I’m trying to decide where to go for vc. Both might rock me

[white ember]

From what I was told this is correct

The chart goes to 3 hubs in case there is a matchup of 4 for wasteland.

[oak fox]

Same trying to understand the pairing system we have been out match since they introduced the new system.

[cinder patrol]

It’s like Res war where it’s literally just tier based. But so have we, been outmatched. And we threw this one because we faced a state with 2 39s who wanted to beat up on us. First time I’ve ever lost. Feels bad.

[oak fox]

Similar our highest might player is a 600 mil yet we face people who are 1 bil last SVS there was a guy from global top 20.

[cinder patrol]

Yep. Last two times we faced two states with two enormous players. Luckily one of them was super sweet and the second time in a row we faced them he was still kind and wanted me to hit him in the hub for his points lol

This time…completely opposite. Utter jerks. And had no interest in even talking, just used to battle chat to taunt and be jackasses.

[quartz valve]

We just had our 1st wasteland king and faced 2 states much stronger than us. 1 with hq40 and another with hq35. I dont know how we but we managed to keep our hub fkr the majority of then24 hours. But wtf?!?!

Our highest hq is 33

[past cosmos]

In our state, 300% training speed up doesnt show now..

We have governor, do we have to wait governor to activate it?
In case no governor (lost to other state), do we get 300% speed up? Is it auto activate by system?

[white totem]

Need gov to activate it, if you lost the hub then your state cant get any state decree (boost)

[past cosmos]

Hi. we lost once last month and still got 300%. Im not sure how it worked 😓 or why we got it.

[white totem]

Idk maybe mod can help you to find out how it worked! 😇

[high dragon]

Wouldn't it be activated by the highest might player instead.

[cinder patrol]

Fast comeback automatically activates itself in the event you lose your hub. We lost this time around, and we still have it. The rest of the decrees we won’t have, though.

@high dragon The only thing the highest might player can control is the limit of who can enter the state.

[cinder patrol]

In this case yes, your governor needs to manually activate it. When you have a governor, it’s their responsibility to turn on decrees.

[past cosmos]

Ok i see that we have to wait

Thank you everyone😉

[tall python]

We have that for our state 272. Anyone already in that alliance automatically gets nap. It makes it easier to have everyone in one alliance and to take attendance for nap. We do nap based on merit, not might.

[cerulean ore]

All Idea about extra Alliance used for Wasteland I do Understand. But at My State, they said it's useless, because Tech there isn't that good. I'm like.... Problem for extra 15% of attack? Weird. If Tower Leader got 5000% Rider attack, what is 15% more? 5015% ? But they prefer to kick half Alliance to make space for rest :D

[azure bluff]

Questions for mods/devs:

How might we find out when “Legend” status for Wasteland King will kick in for top 9 in diamond ranking? It was not active this past weekend based on point distribution.

Also, we only face two opponents and point structure is for occupying 1, 2 or 3 hubs, which makes sense. However, holding own hub is being counted as occupying zero hubs based on point distribution. Is this in preparation for facing 3 opponents in future wars? Or is it being scored incorrectly?

[white totem]

I'll ask, as I've no idea

[white totem]

The first always feels bad, but you’ll see that there’s no difference really besides not getting titles and boxes with one speed up and one rss lol…people now throw away hubs on purpose cause they know it’s like whatever’s. We lost our hub as well but we didn’t fight for it either we where in the diamond league with the legends and we knew we didn’t belong there. The system is fairly easy to understand and how you get there.

[white totem]

Wasteland diamond legend status was already activated. We had Number 6. Whatever number you have now in history ranks is where you’ll be for the next WW. So if you’re in the top 9 now in history ranks your next WW will be cray cray lol….

[white totem]

He's from s49...

[white totem]

So why is he asking lol, he will always be top 9 lmao 😂

[azure bluff]

Because we all kept our hubs this weekend but got -150 points

Just trying to understand the scoring table. From what I can tell, legend status was not active this weekend

[white totem]

That's a glitch I believe which @quartz flame has already reported

[azure bluff]

Gotcha. There is also a frame that appears to be for those at the “legend” level which was also not the reward for hitting the point threshold.

[quartz flame]

The frame is an individual reward of you hit 66m points yourself

[azure bluff]

Yes and we got the diamond one (you can see in my photo)

Again, the question is whether legend status (top 9 ranked at diamond level) is currently active or does it get activated after a certain number of events

And the second question was about the point structure and what counts as occupying a hub, but @white totem said that has been flagged as a glitch already

[quartz flame]

Did titles still work for your state?

No one has got to the point threshold for the last teir. I haven't looked yet at next week, it might be now

[azure bluff]

There were multiple alliances in diamond level (3000+) after the previous wasteland. There are more now of course.

[azure bluff]

Yes titles and boxes and boosts did work. sorry forgot to answer that part

[azure bluff]

Doubled checked and there were 6 states at diamond grade after previous wasteland. There are 17 now, so maybe it only kicks in when there are more than 9 since it is top 9?

[quartz flame]

That make sense. Hopefully it doesn't have anything to do with max points

[cinder patrol]

I mean I get how it works. It’s why we had discussed throwing it before. This time we just decided to do so because we absolutely couldn’t fight back and they had no problem spending endlessly so we decided to not waste our troops for that. But we will likely need to lose again to go down a grade :/

I thought the hub thing was at Diamond, if you only keep yours, you lose points? And the 3rd hub is in case it’s between 4 states? But the 1 hub doesn’t count for your own?

[river cape]

I’m going to write up a WK FAQ sheet. So, could I please get those questions which are most frequently asked about Wasteland King as a response to this?
I’ll share it once it’s complete, and I will probably be back with questions to clarify my answers, lol.
Questions like: will all my troops be lost if I’m parked in the grey and am hit.
When will Fast Comeback be turned on?
Etc.

[cinder patrol]

Does FC work on troops killed by turrets

Does FC work on troops lost in sanctuary hits

Can we attack people in other states

How do we assign governor

Can governor be changed once it is set

Do you get points for killing T1s/T1s dying

Does troop type in turrets influence how much damage they do in hitting the hub

Why are we only facing 1 state

[river cape]

Thanks!

[wheat laurel]

I'm curious as to what the timer is in the turrets when they are first taken. I know after you get hit it's 10 min and then drops to 5 min. But if I took a turret it starts a timer. What's that time?

[river cape]

The timer is how long you have held the hub.
You gain possession of a hub by either keeping it for 8 consecutive hours, or the longest cumulative time within the 24 hours that wasteland is going on.
Good question, too.

[azure bluff]

They are asking about taking a turret and that timer, not the hub one.

[river cape]

As far as I know, the hub and turret timers are synced. Any of them will be reset ONLY if the hub is taken.

[white totem]

Timer for tower can be the super reinforced too.

[river cape]

Yes, the towers can be super reinforced, but super reinforcing either towers or hub does not affect the timer in any way.

[white totem]

No I mean there’s a timer for superrein too lol

[azure bluff]

Yes 4 hours at a time

[white totem]

Who's choosing by hub-event the gouverment?

[white totem]

What's exactly your question?

[white totem]

Do you mean who chooses the Governor for the stat after wasteland event?

[cinder patrol]

The governor is the R5 of the winning alliance who holds the hub for 8 hours straight, or the longest occupation time total

[sage briar]

I think the r5 can set the governor without stepping down

Just has to be in the alliance

[white totem]

Yes

[cinder patrol]

Yes I’m aware. I was governor many times lol. But that’s who is given the power and in new states it’s usually the R5 who keeps it.

[river arch]

I have a question regarding OCC points.
The description says that those points are gathered over the time spend in any of the buildings (towers, hub).

Does the troop size someone send in matter to the time in gathering the points?

Does the location matter on how quick the occ points can be gathered?

Thanks for your response.

[cinder patrol]

Hub gains points faster than turrets. As do captains, I believe. There is currently debate over whether troop size matters in the speed.

[river arch]

That was quick. Thank you

[cinder patrol]

It’s because as was pointed out, I have no life 😂

(But also I’m on holiday break lol)

[river arch]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Enjoy your holiday

[sage briar]

I was in the turret as captain and i finished at top of OCC before the hub captain, i probably entered just a few seconds faster

[quartz flame]

Troops size does matter. I tested it. Full march weeks finished faster

[cinder patrol]

Good to know. I thought it might but I didn’t want to say for sure lol

[river cape]

Troop size matters!
I’ve sent one shooter before and didn’t maximize occupation points in a turret. I sent a half march the next time 155 k, I think), and maxed in four or five hours. It was just after time change, so y alarm was set for the old half way point, lol.

[crystal willow]

i never trust CS, but this time they actually got it right! 👏

[river cape]

Could be because it looks like the service rep speaks English as a first language so actually understood the question!
Before I’m called racist, let me point out that 99% of the claims I’ve put in have been answered with cookie cutter copy and paste jobs, or there was a miscommunication because the rep didn’t speak English well, so misunderstood, or didn’t understand all the facts I put in the report.

[marsh saddle]

Or didn’t actually read it

[summer oak]

If you take another states HUB? How do you appoint governor? Can you activate boosts in that state? What happens to boxes and such?

[cinder patrol]

They have no governor and the only boost they get is fast comeback which the game implements automatically. The other state can do absolutely nothing. They just get the taxes from transports (which already exist).

[summer oak]

We can't distribute boxes or assign titles correct? Just receive "coffers"?

[cinder patrol]

You can do absolutely nothing.

[summer oak]

oh joy

[cinder patrol]

The occupying state accesses whatever taxes from their own coffers. But they do nothing else. And the occupied state gets no titles or boxes. It’s really not so bad. Don’t notice a difference other than lack of boosts and lack of colored message boxes.

[summer oak]

Thank you!

[marsh saddle]

@cinder patrol can we cancel WK this weekend please. It’s NYD! 😬

[cinder patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/i-see-you-we-see-you-exposed-find-you-kathryn-dean-gif-17436504

[white totem]

Nobody cancelled VC on my birthday so back off

[marsh saddle]

Aww 😭

[white totem]

Pffft 🤣

[quartz flame]

I had to VC on my birthday too. Idk why it couldn't had been moved to Sunday...

[white totem]

Might be the dumbest question all day or for a long time and sad I don’t 100% no the answer but alliance tech tree does it still play a part for wasteland when everyone moves out of the green territory!?

[white totem]

You get all the boosts from tech even not being in the alliances territory

Boosts from hive is those you see in fort under magnifying glass

[white totem]

That’s what I thought but didn’t want to tell some without 100%

[tacit lagoon]

Can anybody tell me what exactly super reinforcement does

[stray quarry]

It increases the captain’s reinforcement amount

[inner sable]

All troops take on the commander who supered stats.

[sleek wedge]

149 was in diamond league. At this league we have to keep taking another states to gain points. Otherwise you lose 150 points even you keep your own hub. When you reach legend league (not sure when) you will not lose points.
Im happy staying at platinum league. No point gain or loss

[toxic torrent]

??

[fathom vapor]

Lol...sorry didnt mean send

[white totem]

It applies the captain stats to the troops below in alliance clash or rw play with it and it will tell you what it does then you can apply it how you see fit for your state in Wasteland King in Hub and Turett

[keen fossil]

CAn anyone tell me if the title boosts last only 24hrs after being handed out ? Or the duration of holding the title

[white totem]

Duration. Timer you see next to titles is timer when you cannot give title to someone else .

[winter sigil]

Can you participate in wasteland king (like defending your state) if you've recently immigrated to a new state?

[river cape]

Yup.

[white totem]

Can land a few minutes before it begins and still join 🤣

[night slate]

Would directly hitting sanctuaries work in WLK for death points? or must it be in wasteland structures only?

[tacit lagoon]

If the sanctuary is in the wasteland then yes you'll get casualty and kill points if it's in the green and already in your state then no points

[white totem]

It won't let you immigrate once the event has started same on VC

[fresh prairie]

So she was correct!

[toxic torrent]

That's what she said🤣 🤣

[sharp coyote]

You actually receive the boxes of the state you occupy to give out for people in your state too. So you get double the boxes to give out, just not to the people of the occupied state but only to people of your own.

[keen fossil]

I know that lol but the boosts. Like troop atk or whatever. How long do those last?

[white totem]

Boost from title? Like I said while people own it.

[keen fossil]

Ok thanks. We have a few in our state swearing up and down that those boosts only last the first 24 hrs after receiving the title. After 24 hrs it’s just a green txt box and no benefits

[fierce fable]

It would be nice if you could retain your title until the hub is won, losing the boosts as you enter WK can hurt a bit.. just saying..

[summer oak]

I will tell him to try

[summer oak]

He was unable to, he does not have authority game said.

[river cape]

It won’t even let you scout anyone on the green from another state, let alone hit one, lol.
Tried and tested.

[sharp coyote]

You probably already gave them out. They simply add to the boxes you see in your own hub. Take a look at the record there if you handed out two big boxes and 10 medium ones instead of the usual 1 big and 5 medium

[fervent geode]

y'all my state is gonna be too drunk to show up to wks, are states doing a global nap for new years? 😭

[cinder patrol]

US west coast (where I live), Alaska, and Hawaii are gonna suffer lol. Starts at 2 am my time.

[crystal willow]

why? isn’t losing a good thing?? 🤔

[fervent geode]

we haven't lost one yet knock on wood 😒

[summer oak]

I don’t think so

[sharp coyote]

Oh, so you still have them to give out then

[sharp coyote]

Which state if you don’t mind telling that?

[summer oak]

Our governor tried

[sharp coyote]

Is it 272?

[summer oak]

Yes, we are 272

[pliant apex]

How did u know that ure so spooky!

[sharp coyote]

Searched the name in game. Wasn’t that hard😂

[pliant apex]

Oh cheaterr

[tacit fulcrum]

So during wasteland can have be attacked in the mud or outside

Hq

[mental spear]

During Wasteland
If your hq is in the mud it came be attacked
If your hq is in the green. You cant be attacked

[toxic cedar]

I’m sure someone had already asked but why are we doing wasteland king on New Years!?

[crystal willow]

there is a thing called coincidence 🤷‍♂️

[white totem]

So port in grey when you're matched with 170

Need my frame

[mental spear]

Roger roger

[cinder patrol]

Because it’s the Saturday after valiant and they don’t reschedule events

[toxic cedar]

No kidding. Just figured maybe they’d say “Hey a lot of our players are probably going to be incredibly drunk” and change it. Didn’t realize they never change events

[crystal willow]

they did not change VC schedule during Xmas either 😕

[white totem]

They didn't change VC also when I had birthday. What a shame

[crystal willow]

Ikr. put in your report! 😂

[white totem]

Will do boss

[cinder patrol]

Personally I wish WK was only once a month. I’m tired of it.

Does anyone actually enjoy it? It’s a hassle and stressful more than anything else, to me.

[white totem]

I like WK

Like to meet new people

[white totem]

Same. I like the battle chat they’ve introduced

[white totem]

Yesss. I met so awesome people last WK

Because of the new chat

[cinder patrol]

Idk. Running it is less fun for me. I liked it more when I wasn’t in charge.

[crystal willow]

i hate it. i wish this was an opt-in event instead.

[white totem]

I'm in charge and still fun

[river cape]

Same reason we did VC on Christmas. There are people who either don’t celebrate these days at all, or at a different time. They figured they would irritate the least amount of people this way 🤣

[river cape]

Once a month would be cool with me. I’m sick of either getting up too early (or sleeping in), or not going to bed at all every other week!
At least VC I can put up a shield and say screw it, lol. Not that i do, but I have that option.
Then they could maybe introduce another SVS or something. Or give us a weekend off! That would be awesome too!

[white totem]

That’s me usually for VC shield and party 😂

[river cape]

Lol. I’m usually on, but not big enough to actually do anything but report the ones that are too big for even our biggest. Or the biggest is asleep!
212 mil and 120 mil, and can’t so diddly, lol, so I put up a 3 day, collect, run lairs, and chat, lol.

[white totem]

Nice! ❤️

[river cape]

Lol, yup!

[cinder patrol]

I haven’t done anything during VC in months lol

Shield and sleep lol

[final maple]

We make some fireworks, lol

[final maple]

It's not fun when we meet many big guys, try to get enough points then shield 🛡 lol

[toxic torrent]

I love the chat. But sometimes during alliance clash or res war no one want to talk 😢 🤣 🤣

[fresh prairie]

I talk…too much

Atleast that’s what the game tells me

[toxic torrent]

Haha,you need to learn how to remain silent🤣 🤣

[mental cedar]

so only 1 state?

like why?

[marsh saddle]

17 states in diamond rank so cannot be divided equally into 3. 5 x 3 states and 1 x 2 states.

[mental cedar]

gotcha thank you

[steady root]

Man this shits getting old aye, we got s75 AGAIN, basically we gonna face s75 and some other state every week, 🙄🥱

[cinder patrol]

Now you have friends!

[steady root]

Hahahaha

I think this is the 14th or 15th time we have faced s75

I mean we get along with 75 but man I’d like some@new meat for VC, 😂

[sharp coyote]

Yes, sometimes you meet friends in WK😉

[cinder patrol]

[marsh saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/best-freaking-friends-forever-best-friends-besties-bff-love-you-gif-17059524

[steady root]

Nobody wants to be friends with me I’m to widdle, 😂 😂

[cinder patrol]

Yeah I can understand that

[cinder patrol]

I am also smol and I just tell big players I like them. Smile and wave.

[sage briar]

I could go for less wk and more vc

[cinder patrol]

Yeah…I don’t sleep well before WK because of stress.

[graceful hearth]

Why are all troops being killed by turret attacks. Not a single wounded is in my infirmary

[gusty dawn]

End the ability to tile hit in Wasteland King.

It's pointless as it gives no kills/deaths.

[cinder patrol]

You get points

[toxic torrent]

Turret hits kill, they make no wounded.

[gusty dawn]

No, you dont.

No kills from tile hits.

No points from t1's

[cinder patrol]

T1s you don’t get points for attacking, no. But tile hits do give you points in general when they are above T1. I know because I do it all the time. It’s how I get all my points after occupation.

[gusty dawn]

Pick a weekend- Valiant or Wasteland; don't screw everyone's weekend farming by a day.

[cinder patrol]

It’s part of the game…you get points for it, like idk what to tell you. Tile hits aren’t allowed in my state and I don’t attack my own state anyway, so I get my points and my kills from attacking other states. I don’t think it’s that big of a deal. Just stay off the wasteland for 24 hours.

Or send T1s

[gusty dawn]

Or stop the cowardly tile hits from safe.

[cinder patrol]

But you call everything cowardly. VC you say the same. It’s part of the game. It’s not cowardly. It lets smaller players get points. It’s not that serious. If your state is constantly getting tile hit, then they’re not learning to stay off during SvS, and that’s on them. We always warn.

[toxic torrent]

No one is forcing you to gather in wasteland. It's a way how smaller players can get points. You need to think about them too. Not everyone can participate.

[gusty dawn]

~1/7th of the time for the best farming area to be available for invaders to attack is too much, especially from being safe from attacks themselves.

The Wasteland tile hitting favors cowards & trolls.

[fresh prairie]

That’s crazy.

It’s points. If you don’t like it. Don’t gather in the waste. You can find 6s outside of it. It’s not coward or trolls. It’s wasteland wars and part of the game and strategy.

[main sparrow]

Who becomes governor, the alliance leader or the hub captain?

[toxic torrent]

After zenith war the r5 of the alliance gets to decide who they want to be gov in their alliance and appoint someone in the 2h after WK ends . If no one appoint anyone,the R5 become governor.

[main sparrow]

Thank you

[toxic torrent]

You're welcome.

[stone jay]

Does the size of your March matter in a turret to collect occupancy points? Having 1 troop vs having 200k troops in a turret? Also does the tier of troop affect this?

[toxic torrent]

Yes,the march size does matter.

[stone jay]

So if you have more troops you gain points quicker?

[toxic torrent]

That's right🙂

[stone jay]

Thanks !

[sage briar]

I think its up to a limit?

[crystal willow]

up to your march size? 🤣

[sage briar]

No like 500k is not faster than 100k or something 😋

[crystal willow]

you are probably right.

[toxic torrent]

What you wrote first time it matters🤣

[sage briar]

Hey i fixed it 😋

[crystal willow]

Mods are constantly watching 👀

[toxic torrent]

I know,just saying😋 😋

[toxic torrent]

https://c.tenor.com/CKpxxXAcHt4AAAAM/chicken-fbi-skeptic-chicken.gif

[sage briar]

Theyre probably stuck afking for wk like we all are 😂

[toxic torrent]

Someone has to keep an eye on you.🤪

[fresh prairie]

Here I am killing troops at tiles

[toxic torrent]

Shame on you.
https://c.tenor.com/rwZNrZ2V2MoAAAAM/shame-go-t.gif

[fresh prairie]

I know. I’m a coward 😂😂

[gusty dawn]

#📚sanctuary-rules

9. Don’t be rude or insult other players. Do not post things with intent of causing issues or defaming other players. Do not make posts that are political devisive.

@fresh prairie
@toxic torrent

Or are #📚sanctuary-rules just for the plebs?

[inner sable]

All I know is if I have state 330 in wasteland…….I’m hitting tiles lmao

[fresh prairie]

That’s the way to get ranked and all phases done.

[toxic torrent]

You're the one calling people cowards. You gave us suggestion,thanks. But don't need to keep going.

[raw coral]

Anyone know why our States bubble dropped even tho we still control a second state?

[cyan token]

I got a question, we hit other states hub we won but it reset our time

Anyone know why

I thought your time gets reset if lost?

[modern mason]

Hey have someone the same issue with only two states and not three?

[toxic torrent]

There's not enough states in your rank. Can't be divided equally into 3. Nothing serious

[modern mason]

Thanks for the information 🌹.

[elder pebble]

What happens to 300% training boost if your state loses WK?

Who activates that

[sharp coyote]

You hit the hub of your own state there. That’s why the timer started from 8h again, because you regained control after they had it.

[broken pagoda]

Question: we won the wasteland war event but it says on hub ‘appointment pending for the governor’. Why?

How can we appoint a governor?

[summer quartz]

Leader needs to choose someone or after a few hours(i think 2h) the leader becomes gov

[broken pagoda]

I’m currently the r5

But I don’t see anywhere which to click to appoint the governor

[sharp coyote]

Have you been before the hub was won? If so you should see a button at the lower right (where Hammer and book are) where you can choose the governor

[broken pagoda]

That’s what I see…

[sharp coyote]

Not in the hub. On your main screen

I can even see it shining through

[broken pagoda]

Ovhhh thank you so much!!! I see what you mean

Thank you! Happy new year!

[celest shore]

Hi guys I have a question, my alliance won Wasteland King if I will not choose anyone for the Governor, then after 2 hours R5 will get it automatically?

[sharp coyote]

Yes

[celest shore]

Thank you so much ❤️ it's my first time 😁

[sage briar]

It activates automatically after wk

[white totem]

Jacy Kai

J'ai une question, on a heurté d'autres États qu'on a gagnés mais ça réinitialise notre temps.

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[raw coral]

I think it's one of 2 ways I forget been a while since lost a hub. Either it activates when WK ends or when winning alliance activates theirs.

[feral condor]

If the 300% boost is applied now, will it be applied for any additional troop loss?

[crystal willow]

no

[feral condor]

Thank you

[sharp coyote]

Yes it will actually

[feral condor]

Okay. 😂 Thank you.

[marble gulch]

Hi is it just casualties from turrets and hub or if you go to another state and attack a hq in the black will they get the 300% training boost too?

Also if infirmary cap is 500k shouldn't deep heal be 500k and anything else go to alliance infirmary??

[white totem]

No training boost from hitting tiles or HQ

[white totem]

I think yes. Deep healing is mirror to your infirmaries

So when you see those killed ones, they are in your deep healing. At least that's how it was for me.

[marble gulch]

Well thats just crap.

[marble gulch]

So the 78k killed are in deep heal? Or dead dead

Cos atm 73k is in deep heal not 500k

Ok

[white totem]

But your report shows 78k killed not 500k

[marble gulch]

Its a bummer when a nap is done and you can't get not many kills in a turret if it's already started when ur asleep and try to get occupational points before the hub is secured by that time everyones hub is secured and the only way to get casualty points is to either hit in another state that has a hq parked in the black or you park in the black.

[marble gulch]

Yeah my infirmary is full with 500k troops this was a report in mail

[white totem]

Your infirmary not your deep healing

Also there's alliances hospital

[marble gulch]

Alliance hospital is empty
My infirmary full
Deep heal 78k
Was just worried that the ones killed then it said infirmary was full was dead dead but if that means dead heal all good. Perhaps it should state so many went to deep heal rather than killed

[sage briar]

That would be nice if they stated more clearly they went to deep heal

[marble gulch]

I know right! I was like wtf lol

[marble gulch]

But isn't might lost (troops killed from hitting still the same as might loss and yroops killed in turrets?) If not why even bother with tile hits and hq hits?

[white totem]

Tile and HQ hits give you kills and casualties. However that's not ZENITH hub or turrets so you do not get boost.

300% is only from ZENITH

[marble gulch]

Well again that's just bobbins and unfair for some that don't get chance to participate in the hub if alliance is full I mean if its kept for 8 hours straight some people are actually asleep during them 8 hours or have to work and the event runs for 24 hours they don't really get anything from even trying. It should be who ever keeps it for the longest in 8 hours then rather than DANGLE the 300% training boost to ppl who couldn't participate

I know your only a mod but still....

[mental spear]

I think your comment goes along with the suggestions that certain SVS events should have a rotational start time to be more fair to other time zones.

[marble gulch]

I mean we had people join our alliance but by the time they joined all turrets and hub were full and it was nearing the 8 hrs (and others had only just started getting their points)

[marble gulch]

Also what's the point in hq hits that actually kill off the troops and might (yes to get the phases done I understand that but the 300% boost should be for might or troops diminished in that 24 hours rather than just zenith)

[cinder patrol]

When we have a NAP we rotate occupation.

[fringe isle]

Anyone know why there's only 2 states in this WK? Havent seen that before

[cinder patrol]

Your grade did not have enough states to divide them all evenly by 3. So you got 1 state. It happens a lot.

[fringe isle]

First time in almost a year I've seen it, just wondering

[sage briar]

We are state 335 how did we get matched up all the way with 261 😳

[cinder patrol]

The tier system. That’s how lol. It blows.

[fringe isle]

We're in the highest tier so it kinda makes sense

[cinder patrol]

Yep. It happens more frequently now with the tier system.

[sage briar]

We havent taken a single zenith...

I thought the older states were automatically in higher tiers

[cinder patrol]

Started off higher but you get points every time you occupy your own hub. So you have moved up. You will need to lose to go down.

[cinder patrol]

I was talking about the 2 states rather than 3 states, anyway, being more frequent. But also getting paired with older states is more common now.

[sage briar]

So we're all slowly being fed to monster states?

[marble gulch]

We do that too but as the while state works as one some dont chance for occupational points and even then if they just go to other states and have missed the 8 hours cos of rl commitments ie work and sleep kills and might diminished for hitting hqs should could otherwise what is the point for losing troops if all u get is the phases. A lot do it for the training boost too

[cinder patrol]

Eventually it will even out. The states that occupy a lot will move up and the lower tiers will balance a bit. For now, yes. It’s like Res War a bit in that your tier matters. Not your state might. State might used to matter.

But like my state will need to lose again to stay out of platinum lol fck no not going there.

[sage briar]

What a disgusting machine LOL

[cinder patrol]

I’m not a fan tbh

I miss the old system which we didn’t get a clear picture on but we figured out it was basically state strength

This one, while more spelled out, now pushes you up against states who can absolutely destroy you. There’s no fight to be had. Last time we just said eff it and let them have it. Wasn’t worth the troop loss to fight an unwinnable battle.

And ironically they probably did it to encourage more fighting.

[sage briar]

Oh crap we i actually looked, we are headed for platinum 😳

Omg there were some rebels in 261 messing around and super rallying

What should we have done, let them occupy the hub so we lose points and then kick them out?

[cinder patrol]

No you get points for occupying, as in securing your hub. So you would have to lose your hub and let it be occupied by another state for 2 weeks to lose points.

[sage briar]

Oh it says if you dont take zeniths in platinum you get 0 points

I guess everyone just ends up/hangs around in platinum?

[unkempt ibex]

we were just up against a state who deliberately took no hubs (including their own) so they’d be able to drop an affinity rank

wouldn’t surprise me if we see more states doing that

[cinder patrol]

Interesting. Which state? I’d like to see what that looks like.

[unkempt ibex]

97, but an alliance from my state decided to take their hub as well so we’ll be back up to platinum next wk 🤦🏼‍♂️

[sage briar]

Theres literally no way to avoid ranking to platinum unless you want to spend 50% of the year with no gov buffs

[unkempt ibex]

we got fked up the last 2 wks anyway, so we dropped to gold the previous one, then were up against players 300mil bigger than our strongest last time even in gold

shit, even 97 had players bigger than our strongest -some of them with amazing stats- they just don’t wanna move up in affinity

[cinder patrol]

Damn. I’d sock them.

[marsh saddle]

Come to diamond ♥️

[gusty dawn]

There is difference between calling people cowards & calling out those that commit actions that are cowardly.

The constant justification of "it's part of the game" is not a valid defense, as we are here trying to either explain how the game works to newer people, or to suggest improvements to the game.

There is a problem of invaders disrupting Wasteland farming on Saturdays- I wish to find a solution to the problem.

As I have said before 1/7th of the Wasteland farming time is too much of a sacrifice for people to get points, and especially if those that get the points on Wasteland weekend are not subject to any consequences for doing so.

Those that behave this way have no honor & defend their actions with the excuse "it's in the game, so it's legal."

Just because it's legal, doesn't make it correct or honorable.

I'm not trying to cause issues with my comments- it's just my opinion; I am trying to change behavior, and as so many have thoughts for "the little guy" (players that want to participate but aren't big enough), I ask you to think of the non-participant- that doesn't want their existence disrupted for the sake of the "little guy's" points.

I'd appreciate if you refrain from mocking my comments to bully me in the future.

Cc @fresh prairie

[fresh prairie]

🙄

[gusty dawn]

When you make comments like this, 👆 you're doing it as an attempt to bully, which is what #📚sanctuary-rules 9. is about.

I am thoroughly disappointed that the moderator chose to join in the mocking rather than correct your behavior.

This makes this discord feel like those that aren't a part of the "cool kids clique" aren't welcomed here.

That's how I am feeling @torn blade, to answer your PM from Christmas.

[fresh prairie]

Quit tagging me!

[gusty dawn]

I responded, not tagged; I tagged you to the previous message you needed to hear.

Please refrain from using my comments/ideas in a facetious, mocking way in the future.

Thank you.

[fresh prairie]

You keep bringing this back up when it was done and over with. No one cares anymore.

[gusty dawn]

You keep bringing this back up when it was done and over with. No one cares anymore.

[fresh prairie]

😂😂😂 your rediculous

[gusty dawn]

You're still responding?

[fresh prairie]

Yea sir! 🖖 I will not comment anymore to your rants😂

[gusty dawn]

It's good that you understand not to comment if you cannot be nice, at least decent, or comment constructively.

[inner sable]

Farm lvl fives till wasteland is over. It’s an easy solution. It’s one day out of the week. Two days out of a month. Everyone knows to not farm there unless they’re willing to heal troops

[fresh prairie]

Easy enough

[crystal willow]

tile hitting during WK is part of the game/event. don’t play the event if you don’t like it. but don’t blame others for playing it. also, coward or not is a pure subjective opinion.

[cinder patrol]

It is a function of the event. It’s not that disruptive at all. Stick to 6s and 5s off the wasteland and stop taking it so personally. They’re not going AFTER YOU because you’re you (although they might if you complain at them).

And you did directly call people cowards and trolls.

Again: It’s for points. Not a slight against you. You’ve been offered solutions we all use. So here they are: either get stronger to be a threat so people avoid you, use T1s, use swift gatherer (which I do), gather on the grass, or don’t gather until after it ends.

[teal quarry]

This event is 2 times a month…. it’s designed to have EVERYTHING in the black available for hits….
Utilize swift gathering or don’t gather if you’re not happy with the possibility of attacks.
please be mindful of OPINIONS and how they’re addressed before warnings of #📚sanctuary-rules are used.

Or what @cinder patrol said cuz she types faster than me 😂🤣😂

[cinder patrol]

It is called WASTELAND King. So the wasteland is open.

[gusty dawn]

Problem is, combined with Valiant- which actually has consequences for tile hitting, the Wasteland tile hitting amounts to ~1/7th of the time having the best farming tiles unavailable.

I don't know how one can view hitting tiles from safety & then using a shield the following week to deny vengeance cannot be viewed as cowardly and/or trollish.

Using points & game mechanics to excuse one's behavior is just lying to oneself.

If you're tile hit in Wasteland, you should be able to pop that player's shield during Valiant Conquest.

It's called Valiant Conquest & there is nothing Valiant hiding behind a shield after declaration of being Wasteland King of the tile hits.

[crystal willow]

i view farming from safety and shielding the following week as smart or pragmatic. nothing cowardly or trollish at all.
also, you were assuming the tiles were spawned to be available for gather risky-free for everyone at all times, which could be a wrong assumption. like the pit, you can choose to farm richer pit tiles, but assume the inherent risks.
ask yourself this question: why lvl7 tiles only spawn in the wasteland?

[fresh prairie]

Logic

[prisma kindle]

Is it better/cheaper to heal my wasted T1 in WLK after the event? or does it not matter?

[sage briar]

Its possible to get the 200 1hr training speedup death reward with maybe 75-150 1hr heal speedups

And then whatever you get with fast comeback

Worth it is relative

[versed bane]

So with deep healing center, we don't lose troops? Unless the capacity is already full.

[mental spear]

Wounded go to your infirmary 1st, then deep healing 2nd, then alliance infirmary 3rd. After alliance infirmary is capped, 4th is funeral services.

The in-game information doesn’t explain it clearly.

[teal quarry]

I get your idea but again….. literally everything is available for attack in the wasteland…. It accounts for hits/kills so the opportunity for points is available for players in all sizes who can or cannot join a turret or hub…..
the rules for this event are probably the EASIEST….. stay out of wasteland be safe…. Go to wasteland…. Consequences.

[versed bane]

I remembered I loose 30% troops if I attacked hub/turrets in the past, even though my infirmaries is not full. So it change after there is deep healing center?

[mental spear]

Your wounded go to infirmaries. Those that are killed directly are just dead.

So if you lost 30% of your troops a portion of those were more than likely killed and those that were just wounded are the ones you see in infirmaries.

[cinder patrol]

You’re more likely to have troops just die directly in Wasteland King

So they will just die, straight up

[versed bane]

I see. So I still lose troops if I attacked turrets/hub?

[cinder patrol]

You will, yes

[versed bane]

I thought killed troops sent to deep healing center. 😂 😂

[cinder patrol]

Some will be wounded, some will just die

Nope. Dead is dead. Wounded goes to deep healing if regular infirmary is full.

This is why I have so many infirmaries. Deep healing is a pain.

[versed bane]

Yeah, deep healing is pain cause cannot use speedups. It takes longer time.

Now it makes sense why 300% training boost only apply if you attack hub/turrets.

[gusty dawn]

Farming from safety would be fine if one wasn't concerned with points the previous week.

As you said, there are consequences for farming in the Wasteland; I just want consequences in Valiant for those that choose to get points during Wasteland by hitting tiles.

We have a rule where first to march on a tile gets the tile, so availability is only in jeopardy when invader come to crap in our state every Saturday.

The problem is no consequences for this behavior during the Wasteland King event.

[river cape]

Depends on how you look at it.
99% of the time my states are way out matched, so us tile hitting them leads to wounded which is a waste of time and resources. Them tile hitting us leads to the same.
I have been known to ask an opponent to hit me so we can max points together, no vengeance needed there.
How am I, a 220 mil might player, supposed to get vengeance against someone four or more times my strength?
If I want to actually risk something during WK, I do it in turret or hub. At least then I get more than a headache out of the deal. And after today’s sh!tshow, I’m looking forward to the rewards!
If you don’t like how WK is run you can always opt out and find something else to do for the day. Or you can contact CS directly and offer your suggestions. They do actually respond to suggestions favourably, especially if there is a chance it will cost us money.

[fresh prairie]

Well if you do it right you can hit them on rss tiles

[fresh prairie]

Is it any attack on sanctuary in the wasteland relocated them? Or just won attacks

[mental spear]

I’ve wondered the same. I know being in the mud lowers your wall to 0 but since I don’t attack, I’ve always been curious do you have to defeat their units first or could I just send one T1 to make them random port 😂

[fresh prairie]

You know where I’m going with this lol

[mental spear]

The same place as me I thinks

Pew pew

[lapis cosmos]

From experience and seeing I think you have to have a win battle report

[white totem]

I have a plan

Ça dépend de la façon dont vous regardez.
99% de la fois où mes états sont en train de s'aligner, donc nous les tuiles les heurter conduit à des blessés qui est un gaspillage de temps et de ressources. Le carreau qui nous frappe conduit à la même chose.
J'ai été connu pour demander à un adversaire de me frapper pour que nous puissions max points ensemble, aucune vengeance nécessaire là-bas.
Comment suis-je, un joueur de 220 mil, supposé se venger contre quelqu'un quatre ou plusieurs fois ma force ?
Si je veux risquer quelque chose pendant WK, je le fais dans la tourelle ou le hub. Au moins, j'ai plus qu'un mal de tête. Et après le sh!tshow d’aujourd’hui, j’ai hâte des récompenses!
Si vous n’aimez pas comment WK est exécuté, vous pouvez toujours opter pour trouver autre chose à faire pour la journée. Ou vous pouvez contacter CS directement et offrir vos suggestions. Ils répondent réellement aux suggestions favorablement, surtout s'il y a une chance, cela nous coûtera de l'argent.

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[cinder patrol]

The game at its core makes you work to find people. They don’t make it easy to find their physical location, especially if they move around. So having a list of people and their locations, for example, is antithetical to that core experience.

Take a screenshot of the people doing if it bothers you this much, to get your revenge during Valiant. And if you can’t because they’re too big or bubbled…let it go. Holding onto anger over being tile hit in an SvS event (or any time, tbh) is not a good use of energy.

Most states have the same tile rules as yours, and so Saturday is the day to go to other states where you don’t have to care about their rules and just do what you want. It’s a break from those rules. It’s what makes it fun. It’s time limited, and you get to do all the things you can’t/won’t do in your own state. It’s a nice break.

[cinder patrol]

Just here to vent my annoyance: we have sign ups for WK and we post them in the state discord, alliance discord, alliance mail, and state/alliance chat. This helps us organize turrets and hubs so it’s not chaos.

One of the players in my alliance didn’t sign up. Then showed up today (we use a state alliance that people join) and didn’t have anywhere to go because it was filled. Obviously. She was also late, might I add. So she threw a tantrum in our alliance discord about how no one helps her and we only help our friends (even though I help everyone, I send out tips, I answer questions, I made a whole help guide, and everyone in the alliance is my friend???) and how she wanted to participate but no one let her (w h a t), and then quit our actual alliance.

Like…

Also if she had stayed and not thrown a hissy fit, we had rotations at hour 4 (which we put on the document we make), and she could have gone into a turret at rotation time.

[gusty dawn]

Someone coming & crapping on my lawn every Saturday isn't my idea of fun.

I prefer the rules & organization to chaos.

The problem is that in most other events there is an opportunity to not participate- this isn't so with Wasteland King & Valiant Conquest (participation comes to you).

My issue is the safe tile hitting from Wasteland King event & facing no consequences during Valiant.

If you want to tile hit for points, then those being hit should have some sort of recourse other than to let it go.

I'd prefer to opt out of SvS events entirely, but that isn't possible.

If these events are going to be tied together, it only makes sense to do something like this.

I just want my 1/2 of the Saturdays to farm, or some recourse at those that ruin it from hiding behind mechanics & excusing it for the sake of points.

In for a penny (Wasteland), in for pound (Valiant), or stay out of the market.

[fresh prairie]

You can also tile hit during valiant 🥴

[gusty dawn]

1. That doesn't guarantee hitting the same players/alliances that hit you.

2. Hitting tiles in Valiant drops your bubble & there isn't a safe zone.

3. Hitting tiles is tacky; I want to hit their HQ.

[fresh prairie]

🤦‍♀️ we can’t make everything off limits. It’s part of the game. Please put your complaint in the #💭closed-game-suggestions box. And let’s move on to better topics.

[gusty dawn]

Quit trying to patronize me with excuses & alternatives.

I want half the Saturdays back to farm lvl 7's or I want recourse against those ruining a Saturday of farming from safety for the sake of points.

[white totem]

Please read #📚sanctuary-rules and be respectful.
Nobody here can help you. If you have suggestions add them in #💭closed-game-suggestions so we can forward them.

[sage spear]

Won attacks only. The players big enough to get “safely” hit while sitting in the mud don’t go anywhere when they get hit.

[fresh prairie]

Ah good to know.

[glacial pecan]

During valiant very few people tile hit as there is normally enough unshielded everywhere. To complain you cannot gather lvl7 tiles 1 day out of 7 seems a bit pointless

You can not participate in all these events by either shielding and/or staying off the blacktop

Or the devs can change events core to the game that have been here since very early on

[river cape]

Any attack ON a sanctuary in the wasteland automatically relocates you as long as the doing the hitting is strong enough to defeat you.

[river cape]

Ahem, as to your second point: your arguing FIR something you seem to have been against from the beginning: bubbling to stay safe from those who are much stronger than you. And believe me, I’ve cowered under those bubbles quite often when I would rather be defending my state. Sometimes those bubbles are the ONLY recourse we have because we can deny those so much stronger their vengeance! Ie: you may have gotten the better of me last weekend, but you won’t get a drop from me this time! Or, we know we managed to keep our hub despite your best efforts, and we will keep our rss and troops to ourselves again this weekend too!

[cedar steeple]

No you need a Victory attack on a sactuarynin the mud to make it port.

[river cape]

I thought as much, thanks.

[gusty dawn]

I'm not against bubbles; I am against hiding behind one when you were out tile hitting the weekend before for good rule-free fun/points/whatever excuse you justify your crappy behavior with.

[quartz flame]

Playing the game by the rules isn't crappy behavior. If you don't want to get hit dont go on the black. Lots of tile all around the green.

[gusty dawn]

Or the devs can add a new feature/item that allows someone that had their t1's on a resource tile hit for zero points to drop the tile hitter's bubble during Valiant.

If you're hitting people for zero points there should be some sort of special consequences available.

[river cape]

Ok. I’m done. I’ll no reply to this anymore since it’s obvious your mind is set.
As I said before you can opt out and find something else to do, or contact CS directly with your suggestions.

[gusty dawn]

Screenshot of a lvl 7 on grass please?

[sage spear]

You have to lose to be relocated from the mud

[river cape]

Edited the comment 🙂

[quartz flame]

I saw in the suggestion area, for t5+ only allowed on the black durning WK. Great idea

[gusty dawn]

Also, no one cannot simply not participate in Wasteland/Valiant as you said, because one must alter their normal style of play to adjust for invaders.

Now, if there were states that don't get invaded, you would have a case, but having to alter play style to avoid consequences of an event makes you a participant.

[glacial pecan]

If you do not like it I recommend FarmVille.

[gusty dawn]

I recommend enlisting if you want to fight.

[glacial pecan]

Alternatively see if states will do 100% nap during svs. Devs will not introduce anything like that as svs is highly profitable for them lol

[white totem]

I recommend stop complaining. Nobody here can help. If you have complaints go straight to CS

[glacial pecan]

Here comes @white totem

She speaks the truth 💋

[white totem]

Heyyy . Hope you good ❤️❤️❤️

[glacial pecan]

Hehe, causing trouble like normal

[white totem]

Ain't we all

[glacial pecan]

When are you going to fix the game to please everyone lol

[white totem]

Next year lmfao

[glacial pecan]

They paying you guys yet for all the grief you get?

[white totem]

https://tenor.com/view/cg-gif-20158917

[glacial pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/no-not-in-my-house-dog-shake-head-nope-gif-15208008

[white totem]

I spend more than I earn

[quartz flame]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-patrick-star-broke-poor-gif-14729256

[glacial pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/drama-queen-wallet-baby-empty-no-gif-9928979

[sharp coyote]

What you want is a farming game. Then go find one. You have been told lots of ways to get the best thing you want out of this game: gather Lvl 6 tiles outside the wasteland during WK, send troops more often. You gather at exactly the same gathering rate so the only thing you lose from that is you have to log in to the game more often. If you don‘t want alternatives offered to you you‘re out of luck, because the game won’t be altered to give you your wishes just because you want it but the majority of people don’t. Pay a developer to write the game you want to play and have fun or play this game and try to make the best out of it.

[fierce fable]

May I add an extra point, Check your commander talent set and adjust it until you gain Swift Gatherer, play smart, this game is a very good blend of many game styles of play. Strategy and knowledge of the game are your best weapons. Think 1-2 steps ahead always.. Good Luck

[lapis cosmos]

Swift gathering is amazing to have during wasteland its the main time I see someone sit and then poof the tiles are gone lol

[cinder patrol]

I time it out. I find tiles as close together as possible. I use diamonds to speed up any slower marches or ones further away so they all arrive within 45 seconds of each other, and then I use it. Just takes some thinking.

[white totem]

AKARI

[sharp coyote]

… or her

[broken oak]

What is lora doing

[white totem]

Playing game

Tag only I don't tag but just post y'all names

[broken oak]

Ok then

I'm going back to sleep

[white totem]

You didn't find yours smh

[broken oak]

I didnt know I had one

[white totem]

Everyone had one except new mods . Don't wanna scare them

[broken oak]

Why was mine in Scandinavian channel lol

[crystal willow]

for a sec i thought i got invited into mods’ internal channel 😳

[toxic torrent]

They're too chatty right?😵‍💫

[white totem]

It's everywhere that way tho

[atomic mural]

Wk will need to be adjusted again me thinks, the grading system in place now is leading to full weekend naps. Killing the fun. Remove occupation points or change it to occupation of enemy building instead.

[quartz flame]

NAPs are player made, you can still attack and get points

[atomic mural]

I know, I have the platinum frame to go with it. Very frustrating picking off tiles and killing trucks. It is what it is I suppose. All that virtual might needs to be protected.

[cinder patrol]

People spend a lot not virtual money building their troops up and training them. The problem is that the tier system is wildly unpredictable and state might doesn’t seem to be accounted for anymore. And a lot of states don’t want to move up in tiers. So a lot of NAPs and intentional losses now. It’s also not being fun being the state that gets ramrodded because you got paired with a state with multiple players over or near a billion might. That sort of kills it also.

[atomic mural]

I completely agree that getting ramrodded is zero fun. Something needs to be done to rebalance or every second Saturday will eventually be a sleep fest

[river cape]

Only two have not been snoozefests for me, lol. Usually I’ll go where pointed, check to make everything is going to plan, then go to bed. It doesn’t always work that way though. Especially when one state won’t NAP until they’ve reset your timer multiple times and secured their own hub!

[river linden]

In my next report I will take up the point and ask for a better matchmaking system

[marsh grove]

😀

[versed tiger]

Hello @white totem ,
Could please explain the event stages, and is it doable by one alliance.
on our state, our guild members think they should divided to 2 teams 2 alliances, one fight and protect our state Zenith, and other alliance fight for occupies the competitor state Zenith, but that mean we divide our strength!!
And while invading other stats Zenith should we protect ours at same time?! Or our Zenith will be shielded!!
Thanks on Advance

[white totem]

For WK we join up in our United State alliance. Everyone who wants to fight is there so plan stays within alliances chat.
If we chose to take another state it's enough players in this one alliance to do so.

Imo it's better to be in one than split your strengths

[versed tiger]

Thanks a lot

[river linden]

We have different alliances that are active during the event. If allianz A defends our hub and allianz B takes over a state, we still get a shield about our home hub. Therefore, the weaker players in the home hub allianz can be.

In this variant, more players can actively participate

[sage briar]

The game doesnt give you enough of anything free to actually continually fight every wk

Why not just make it like vc where you get all troops back at the end, this will actually encourage fighting and increase spending for heals to have more fun for the duration

[tacit horizon]

Because if you don't have money sinks everyone is basically the same.... Just like the arena

[white totem]

You’re also suppose to think about your state as a whole instead of what you just want. If your state is in agreement you don’t have to make naps and have a FFA.

[white totem]

That defeats the purpose. In every event we get our troops back except DR and SvS. That’s being a little unfair. Even tile hits you just wound like DR. SvS and killing within state is the only time you actually loose troops. There has to be some type of balance

[crystal willow]

They could make troops die of starvation or age, but I’m sure they’d rather die in battle 😎

[sage briar]

What balance?

[white totem]

Not the rewards or free stuff balance lol…the troop balance. We would never loose troops at all. Meaning people would stop training

[sage briar]

No i trained plenty of troops just to have fun in res war and vc?

[white totem]

Still you would stop eventually cause your thought process would be, “eh who cares I’ll get them back” so once you think you have enough you would stop. So training will dwindle over time and so would sales for them

[toxic torrent]

Don't suggest things like this or they'll actually add it in the game🙈 🤣 🤣

[river cape]

Like the traps. They stopped working, so a good portion of us now only craft the minimum 250 and are done with them till the next day. Not that I particularly mind since that’s more rss I have for my next upgrade!

[stoic flint]

So how many diamonds does it cost to apply the state boosts?

[cinder patrol]

It doesn’t. It costs decree points, which the state gets from everyone completing daily tasks.

[tepid wagon]

Hey guys, do someone have a list for activating any boost and when ?

[sage briar]

You just activate the boosts on the correct ace event days

And fast comeback whenever you want

[quiet marten]

How does taxing work? Like what gets taxed? Is it what is gathered or off the top of resources above warehouse cap for all sanctuaries in the state?

[crystal willow]

the rss you lose during transport, or when you burn someone.
normally you don’t get those anyways, so usually you don’t feel the tax.

[rapid kettle]

Hello house

[mental spear]

Hello car

[cinder patrol]

Hello chair

[white totem]

Chair?

[quartz flame]

https://tenor.com/view/chair-spin-creepy-gif-9830927

[cinder patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-pokemon-chair-spinning-gif-17501225

[teal quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/dizzy-shaky-woozy-gif-10273177

[cinder patrol]

<@&742285797725569104>

[broken oak]

Yes

[broken oak]

Still needed

[quartz flame]

https://tenor.com/view/fired-office-michael-scott-the-gif-22021313

[broken oak]

Excuse me I was at work

[quartz flame]

https://tenor.com/view/excuse-file-excuses-too-many-excuses-gif-15213831

[broken oak]

What's yours

[broken oak]

Hmm

[quartz flame]

I handled it

[broken oak]

Ok

[cinder patrol]

No that was this morning with ya slow hands

[cinder patrol]

You said you just woke up!

https://tenor.com/view/oprahh-oprah-winfrey-oprahwinfrey-truth-gif-5778737

[broken oak]

I was on my way to work lol

[cinder patrol]

Mmmmmhmmm

[broken oak]

Wait nvm I did just wake up I forgot what time it was at

[white totem]

Why you keep waking up every hour lmfao. Do you even stay awake

[broken oak]

I'm sick ok lol

[white totem]

Ok fine go nap lmfao

[cinder patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/shitty-shittyday-needahug-hug-buddytheelf-gif-4846462

[broken oak]

You're not my mom lol

[cinder patrol]

No Ophelia is mom

[white totem]

https://tenor.com/view/turn-off-your-device-go-to-sleep-you-need-to-sleep-sleep-time-night-time-gif-14573058

[broken oak]

Later

[cinder patrol]

Chain doesn’t want a hug

[quartz flame]

He doesn't deserve one

[broken oak]

Wow

[quartz flame]

[cinder patrol]

i saw someone in the BL rankings yesterday 👀

[broken oak]

Who?

[cinder patrol]

the shortest mod

[white totem]

Menace ?🤣

[cinder patrol]

he has the aura of a short man but no, the other one lololol

[white totem]

i think menace the shortest of us all

[cinder patrol]

akari is for sure shorter

unless menace is like, dog height

[white totem]

That he probably is

[teal quarry]

I have the aura of a short man 😳

[cinder patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/marge-simpson-the-simpsons-shy-shame-ashame-gif-16916873

[teal quarry]

I’m definitely taller than a dog…. Unless you’re talking about a Dalmatian

Kidding kidding

[cinder patrol]

dalmatians are famous for being tall

and great danes are well known very small dogs

[quartz flame]

Trying to get my Leah up

[mental spear]

Just got her to +6
Small victories ☺️

[quartz flame]

I need +8. Need my march upped

[quartz flame]

How is one of the hardest to get your highest

[mental spear]

Hahaha it’s what I focus on

[final maple]

Lol, she is the highest one in your heroes

[mental spear]

I often get 18 frags per event if there isn’t too any duplicates. Only ones I don’t really do are build and research ones.

[final maple]

I often move to new state but my Leah also +6 on Friday 😊

Whats about your troop size now?

[mental spear]

HQ24 206,000 so far

[final maple]

You still need to work on it more

[mental spear]

Hahaha of course

[final maple]

My size is not the biggest for hq24 now but its 240,800

With mm 247,900

[mental spear]

That’s good for hq24

[final maple]

Yeah, I could burn bigger HQ when their main heroes out, lol

Hurt them

[crystal willow]

anyone knows whether matchmaking only considers affinity tier (e.g. diamond/platinum/gold/…) or also the number of trophies? e.g. can a 2950 platinum be matched with a 2300 platinum?

[white totem]

Yes they can be matched up together, remember how we were in legend and got paired of with the same bracket? Well, they had more points then us

[crystal willow]

ok, so within the same tier it is all random i guess?

[white totem]

Correct

[crystal willow]

cool. then we should just stay at 2950 trophies forever i think 🤣

[white totem]

Sure bob 🤣

[white totem]

That’s why we sat out the last 2 wlk…. To drop from diamond. Want to keep Andrew and Lego away

[white totem]

Whyyy. Lego is so nice

[sage briar]

Thats what were doing, forever platinum 🙌

[crystal willow]

we accidentally got into diamond and got our ass kicked bad. but i managed to get a diamond frame. will keep it as a souvenir and never go back 🤣

[toxic torrent]

Yeah,that was.... Sad 🤣 🤣 🙈

[crystal willow]

are you in the same state as me? lol

[toxic torrent]

Neighbor in K&Q🤣 🤣 🙈

[crystal willow]

https://tenor.com/bDJsQ.gif

[loud turtle]

[fresh prairie]

My peeps 😂😂😅

[tacit fulcrum]

Can foreigners hit anywhere during wasteland or only in the mud

[cinder patrol]

Only on the wasteland itself.

[unkempt blade]

Have a question. I can up my Nova for Troop DEF or HP or ATK. Which do you think is more important? Our state has been discussing how turret leads need to be the ones who can take the most hits once super reinforce is turned on so wouldn't that mean that uppinig my HP would be the best thing since I am leading a turret?

[crystal willow]

usually people prefer to up atk, because offense is the best defense, and also more atk is useful for objectives like lairs. rule of thumb i summarized is that one point of atk is equal to one point of hp and def combined. the cost for upping atk has already taken this into consideration, meaning that it is much more expensive to up one point of atk.

[cinder patrol]

When you’re in a turret, your HP and DEF will be more important than ATK, as you are on defense.

[unkempt blade]

My ATK is already quite high but I think as lead of turret since I won't be attackinig anyone just holdinig wouldn't one of the others come more into play?

[cinder patrol]

Yes. You need strong defensive stats.

[unkempt blade]

OH so which ONE is more important. What IS the diff in HP and DEF?

[cinder patrol]

HP is the health points, how much life essentially is in each of your troops

DEF is their ability to take a hit. The higher the HP, the longer they last. The higher the DEF, the fewer that die and more can repel.

So they’re connected

[unkempt blade]

So if I am lead and my HP is high that flows to all the people under me so for turret lead a high HP is the way to go. I mean since I can only up one right now?

[cinder patrol]

I personally would pick DEF first but that’s just me. And yes, your stats apply to the occupants when you super reinforce.

If you’re a rider HP is low but I’ve been prioritizing defense

[unkempt blade]

I'm rider or shooter. under NOVA my Troop ATK is 30% my HP and DEF are 28%. So you would up the DEF if you were going to be turret lead NOT HP?

That is just my 'troop' stats my individual are much higher. So Rider HP is 58% and ATK is 72%. I was just working the Troop stats to try to help hold the turrets better

[cinder patrol]

I would do defense first, but it also just depends on the numbers of your total hp and defense stats

[unkempt blade]

Thanks all I'm a bit closer to understanding the difff between the two. They are so similiar it is really hard to choose.

[glossy bloom]

Does my shield go down if I reinforce HUB or Turret and not attack it?

[fresh prairie]

Yes

[sage briar]

Its all about troop attack and troop size screw everyone else 😝

[crystal willow]

attack and defense are all relative. if your attack is higher, you kill off enemies faster and the battle ends sooner, then your casualties are also less.

[fresh prairie]

👀

[spice slate]

🥰

[cedar stream]

So um, is there supposed to be a 4 way match up for svs ?

[crystal willow]

it is possible sometimes. also, sometimes it is only two way

[cedar stream]

Oh I never seen 4 matches before

[crystal willow]

i have seen it once. if the number of states in the bracket cannot be divided by 3, it will either have a 4 way or a 2 way.

[sage briar]

How is this fair for state 317? Those states are all 3x 4x older...

[cedar stream]

Trust me 317 has the upper hand 😂

[cinder patrol]

305, 306, 317, 320, 321 all got big players.

[crystal willow]

older doesn’t mean stronger..

[sage briar]

It does, i didnt hit 6000% in a week...

[toxic torrent]

Some older states are dead. People migrate to newer states...

[crystal willow]

i bet some of those in 3xx states did get over 6000% in just a week 🤣

[toxic torrent]

I wish I have 💰 for that too🤣 🙈

[crystal willow]

even if i had the 💰 i would not choose to do that 😂

[fresh prairie]

I would be on a beach.

[cedar stream]

[outer crown]

Question. If we take 2 hubs. How much harder is the next wasteland

[solemn summit]

Is this normal , a state is having 4 states in WK…

[sage briar]

Look at wasteland info for points gained and tier achieved

[toxic torrent]

Yes, it's normal. Sometimes you're against 2 or 4 states.

[solemn summit]

Oh nice

[solemn summit]

Very hard 😂😂😂

[sage briar]

Look above they were just talking about you guys

[paper wedge]

Are we safe from our own state if go go fight in another state?

[outer crown]

Only your alliance

How do we get moved up to diamond. We have been platinum 2 times now with no hub lost

[sage briar]

I think in platinum no hub lost = 0 points

You have to win zeniths to move up

[outer crown]

So we would have to take another state hub to move up

[sage briar]

Jesus s281 has to fight s14, how is that fair 🤣

[sage briar]

Yah look in the wasteland info for how many points

[sharp coyote]

Because they are both in platinum league with 2900 trophies. Or in other words: because they took hubs in the past and hence are considered strong states. If they don’t want to meet strong opponents they shouldn’t take other hubs. Simple as that

[fresh prairie]

We did too….215

[gilded quail]

Hello, i want to ask if any troops die from defend turret in wk can get state boost for retrain after or not? Thanks before

[teal quarry]

Yes any death from enemy state attacks

[gilded quail]

Okay thank u very much

[green wraith]

😃😃😃

[white totem]

Can someone tell me .
At what standards the states get matched up

[white totem]

Matched up by trophies

[smoky grove]

Did anyone notice that points accumulated way faster this time?

[white totem]

Now it makes sence.
Cz it was kind of seem unfair

[toxic torrent]

It's not unfair🙂 If you lose trophies,you'll be against states with less trophies,if you win you'll have more powerful states against. 🙂

[cedar steeple]

Yep. In S75 we are agaist the #2 and 3

[white totem]

I meant unfair in the might of the states

But it's okay.
It's the rules

[cedar steeple]

It get corrected after a loss in the worst case.

[toxic torrent]

It can looks like that.

[smoky grove]

Hey Dark!!

[cedar steeple]

Hi Resey!

[smoky grove]

How are you 🙂

[cedar steeple]

Pretty fine and you?

[smoky grove]

I’m good, just chilling at home now. How is 75?

[cedar steeple]

Pretty good. Doing tourism in S247 for now.

Hub is confortable.

[smoky grove]

Alright 🙂

[cedar steeple]

And you witch state are you?

[smoky grove]

I moved to 102 a few months ago

[cedar steeple]

Its going well?

[smoky grove]

Yeah. It’s very different from 75 and I like it

[cedar steeple]

That's what important. You look like to have a smooth Wasteland.

[smoky grove]

Yeah, we secured naps very quickly. I had to plan wasteland this time and damn that was a lot of work 😂

[cedar steeple]

Yeah. we did planing but we corrected with the opponent we got. Its always a surprise every saturday lol.

[smoky grove]

I almost got a heart attack when our big guy slept in 😂😂

[white totem]

I’m in one of those states 👀😂

[smoky grove]

Wow

[crystal willow]

lucky you. more fun in VC

[white totem]

Yeah - I’m down a tonne of might and RIP my troops but.. this is what it’s about. VC should be fun!

[sage briar]

Yep finished in like 1 hour vs 4hours lol

[sleek wedge]

Watching the top 3 states fighting is a pleasure. Nothing much to do in platinum league😌

[proper dawn]

What happened if u accidentally gave the governor to wrong player can that be taken back and reassigned it?

[sleek wedge]

You have to wait another 2 weeks I guess

[river linden]

You are right

[smoky grove]

Yeah! So weird

[lapis valley]

Curious if it was an accident or glitch. I just appointed Gov, and was very careful who I selected and it appointed someone else randomly.

The person it appointed wasn't even near the person I selected, in the membership list. It appointed someone whose name stated with B, instead of the M name I selected.

[crystal willow]

we could have sent you to diamond. we decided against it