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[elder pike]

Only tax go the coffers. They can't activate state boost / allocate title/ post bullitin etc

[sharp coyote]

They’ll get your taxes and your reward boxes. You will have no governor, no titles, no boxes, no decrees, no state name or flag changes, no bulletin

[calm reef]

Ok.. the head of state will go to strongest might player then right? Or strongest might alliance?

[sharp coyote]

No. You won’t have a governor

Strongest might player can ONLY set HQ limit for immigration.

[calm reef]

Ok cool

Thank you so much

[reef field]

ごちゃごちゃしててわからん

とりあえずおハローーーーーー♪

[white totem]

ロキソニン S

I do not know

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[white totem]

And what if we don’t want to pay the taxes? Can we rebel? Like migrate to their state and take them out?

[sharp coyote]

You pay those taxes anyway. It’s just that they usually just vanish but get sent to the occupying state if you‘re occupied. You don‘t lose anything you otherwise had regarding resources

[white totem]

That’s good to know. Thanks crucial

[flint ravine]

Taxes are 30% of rss gained through attacking and whatever the tax rate is for you when you transport rss. As qjuh said you don't actually lose anything as these are things that are taxed anyway when you are occupied it just actually goes somewhere instead of the void. Nothing is taxed on things you have in your sanctuary

[sonic stump]

If that is the case, why can't we change it?

[sharp coyote]

Which state?

[sonic stump]

78

[sharp coyote]

And who‘s first in might ranking there?

[sonic stump]

Kokopeli

[sharp coyote]

And they can’t change it?

[sonic stump]

Nope

[plucky totem]

He says it won't let him. Not sure if he waited for the full cooldown.

Okay, he did. So, hmm...

[spice pelican]

Question : after how many wasteland wars does the state open to immigration and what is the maximum level the governor can bump the limit up to at that time?

[sharp coyote]

Before the first wasteland and highest HQ in state minus 1.

[weary tangle]

So a level 32 can only change immigration to a 31 limit?

[flint ravine]

The lowest HQ you can set it to is determined by the game. The highest is the highest HQ person in the state -1 except the first 50 or 60 states which are now HQ 35. the other states can't make it 35 at all even if they wanted to

[twin heron]

question.... If we take the ZenitHub of another state, how do taxes work/how much taxes do we get and how does it get split in state?

[somber vector]

The governor passes out the rss as they see fit

[sharp coyote]

The taxes are what each state already pays in taxes (transporting and raiding deduces the amount received by a certain tax amount). Usually it goes to the void, but for occupied states they go to coffers in the occupying state which the governor can then distribute to whomever they like.

[twin heron]

I had another question regarding match up of different states against eachother... does the time of a state coming into existence count or would you say that highest HQ level plays a role too/highest might of player or top alliance or state ?

[raw coral]

if I recall our first Couple Wasteland match was the 2 neighboring states then it went random it seemed... Last one the two we got one 10 before us and other 20 before us

[elfin solstice]

Im not sure we will ever know the full formula but it seems that they take into account spending level, number of foreign hubs conquered, and maybe total might into consideration at least

[flint ravine]

We have never been matched with a state newer than us even just 1 number different. Closest was our first which was 131 and like 90 or so. The last was 2 and 48 😐

[raw coral]

our first was the 2 below us second was -1 +1 then it went rando

but the servers open so close together that makes sense

[twin heron]

Aaah I see.

[twin heron]

and what’s the best strategy to take another states hub? All of S175 is working together for state events, but if the other state is too, is there a way to wear the other state down „effectively“ so to speak?

[sharp coyote]

I doubt that any state will tell you the „best strategy“ here... since we might face your state at one point...

[twin heron]

I hope not. lol That would be quite the might difference haha

[sharp coyote]

I wasn’t talking now, but maybe August or whatever

[twin heron]

Hahaha really?

That would be quite the experience then 😂😂

[sharp coyote]

A lot can happen between now and then. People immigrating, people quitting the game, even state mergers (if they ever do that)

[twin heron]

whaaaat state merges?? daaamn that would be a whole different meta.

[sharp coyote]

Hasn‘t happened in this game yet, but other similar games do that when states go almost empty

[twin heron]

that could be useful for some states for sure.

[wind prairie]

Does anyone know how to transfer governer within the alliance by any chance?

[elfin solstice]

The r5 of the winning alliance can do so within the first 2 hr after securing your hub. After that you are stuck until the next zenith/wasteland event

[wind prairie]

Thank you sir dagor

[white totem]

Hi, does anyone know what exact time to expect your wasteland match-ups to be revealed? Is it at reset tge day before or prior to that?

[flint ravine]

unfortunately it is when the event begins :/

surprise!

[white totem]

Really? 😮

Did that change?

[flint ravine]

one of the older peeps would have to chime in but I can tell you our state which is 3 months old it has been like this since the first one. valiant the following weekend you face the same states you faced in wasteland

[white totem]

Wow, well that's realty odd. Thank you for the information!

[sharp coyote]

Didn’t change, been like that from the beginning.

[white totem]

Thank you 🙂

[steady solar]

Hello. I’m new and still figuring this game out lol

[torpid steeple]

Hello 🙂

[rotund vessel]

Dont be afraid to ask questions. Just make sure you are in the correct channel when you do.

[steady solar]

Yea I will. I’m just doing basics like leveling up and working on missions

[white totem]

Hey guys, any idea if during WK the out of state players who teleport in, does it matter if they can enter your borders!?

Or can they attack from any position?

[sharp coyote]

They can attack from anywhere but can be attacked only if in the wasteland

[white totem]

So they don't receive any boosts attacking within the green borders of a alliance?

Oh ok! Thanks for the info!👍

[sharp coyote]

Only if it was their own alliance, which is hardly possible in another state

[white totem]

Thanks!👍

[elder heron]

Our Governor has said "Once towers are secure everyone is welcome to suicide troops on the towers for points". I'm curious, the rewards don't seem that great for 70% casualties. Why would I do this? Am I missing something?

[white totem]

You get rewards for victims. So if you want to loose some vehicles, this is the place

[elder heron]

Aren't they just injured?

I'd still end up healing them right?

[white totem]

Yes, but they still give point

[flint ravine]

30% are killed

[elder heron]

OK. So I can earn points and whittle down those useless troops I only trained to achieve daily quests. Cool, thank you.

[atomic mural]

Anyone on to kindly ask s43 and s64 to leave s95 alone. Pretty please.

[white totem]

Should I explain the purpose of this game to you? 😉

[atomic mural]

Spend money, die a lot, spend more money.

[marsh sigil]

Spend much money die less

🤣 🤣

[atomic mural]

Our highest might in state is 201million. We've been matched with 600 million might and 400million might. Several 35hqs, several 200mil plus players. Yeah. We hadn't a hope but it's helped us out in regards state planning going forward.

Also a 2 week rss gathering ban in effect now.

[white totem]

What is wrong with this algorithms?

Are the developers sleeping?

[steady root]

We have versed the same states multipul times, bit over fighting the same people over and over again

[tight phoenix]

If you swap weapons/def boosts around while holding a turret, do your troop boosts change, or do they stay as they were when you marched?

[inner wadi]

The algorithms and matchings in this game are bull 😂

[atomic mural]

Hey cloudy, how's ya doin

[fleet mesa]

???

[atomic mural]

Rss tax be damned 😂

[fleet mesa]

Far as I know, taxes are only from rss transports and from attacking others. Not from gathering

[atomic mural]

Learn something new every day! Lol, yeah we just found that out. Thanks tho.

[sharp coyote]

Being occupied doesn’t have any actual negative effects on you. You just miss out on the positive effects you‘d usually get from having your hub (titles, boxes, decrees). That’s it. Not the end of the world

[atomic mural]

What about the boosts applied by govener? Troop speed up, build speed up?

[sharp coyote]

That are the decrees

[atomic mural]

Ah yes, would help if my eyes were working! Thanks Q

[restive frigate]

How do they pick states for wasteland event?

[sharp coyote]

By calculating something. The exact formula is unknown but results of prior SvS events definitely play into it (especially number of hubs won in the past)

[inner wadi]

Its also to do with activity of states and average might of combined actives apparently, there's a lot that goes into it but all of it makes 0 sense

[inner wadi]

Hey squidy I'm good you?

[meager gale]

My state, 173, is soon to be won by state 14. My players are asking about taxes. Thank you for having some answers!

[restive frigate]

Thank both of you

[atomic mural]

Grand sure, laughing away at what happened today. Also hungover af!

[inner wadi]

Don't worry us too! Last time we had s19 lol 2x 1billion might players not sure how any state is meant to compete against that 😂

[atomic mural]

Sit in the corner and cry maniacally 🤷‍♂️ 😂

[paper niche]

😂 drink and laugh

[white totem]

What to do so person wouldn't get in alliances infarmarie?.. Asking for a friend.. 🙈

[hollow hearth]

is it true that the WK state selection is based on State might like for reservoir ? and that it's wiser to unequip your gear to lower your might to face weaker oppenents ? It look like a pretty strange way to select States to collide 🧐
Is that just a rumor or did someone proved that it's how the selection work ?

btw i thought it was just random or based on historical record from state (more logical) though i've heard the "unequiped your stuff !" system a lot through different states...

[warped juniper]

Being in s159 know the feeling

[meager gale]

Hello, Rupert. I think some of the players from my 173 went fishing in your pond, too. Hope they did not cause too much trouble for the locals. They discovered they can hunt higher levels of zombies than have spawned yet in 173.

[white totem]

It has nothing to do with the average might . This matching will make people lose interest in the game .

New states agains the oldest states . That’s not right

[hollow hearth]

thank you but how the selection work then ?

[white totem]

Apparently has something to do with our activity during wasteland

The more you fight higher the rank

And you get matched with stronger states

Although I’m curious what CS has to say about it

People will stop playing this game .

[hollow hearth]

Where that come from though ? Come on I don't want to know another rumor
Not that it please me to doubt you or anything =x

though it make by far more sense than the gear trick lol

[white totem]

@hollow hearth as soon as CS will reply to me . I’ll post the response here.

It’s true too many rumours

[sharp coyote]

Tell that friend to stop sending troops once their infirmary is full😝

[white totem]

Will do lol

[sharp coyote]

Don’t bother. We posed that question to CS several times already. Got at least five different, contradictory responses. They don’t know either.

[hollow hearth]

lol

[white totem]

@sharp coyote they better hire some kick ass developers then . 😂

[hollow hearth]

what was the last answer then ?

[white totem]

If not I will find a way to hack their ass 😂

[sharp coyote]

Oh, the developers know. But CS and decelopers are a whole different bunch

[sharp coyote]

Their last? Why would the time they answered matter? Different CS reps answered differently. Maybe one of them was correct, maybe none was

[knotty knot]

I doubt it would involve too much calculus but with what is easily available. Server Points in valiant conquest, wasteland war, other events, average might divided by number of players. Just a guess. The rewards are greater than the penalty for losing.

[sharp coyote]

Average is already divided by number of players 😉

[paper niche]

Here is the last thing they said this morning. Like Qjuh said, multiple people have asked multiple times and the answers are all different.

[hollow hearth]

because if by the time they changed the way the algorithm behave the last answer is correct and the first wrong. It's not contradiction in this case but just up to date

[sharp coyote]

Oh, they were all only days apart if not hours

[sharp coyote]

Yup, that’s one of the answers

Although that is one that doesn’t contradict many others because of the „etc“

[paper niche]

Yeah, they said after that that our state has more active members and due to that the might is about the same as the active members in the other state.

[hollow hearth]

well maybe they try to keep it secret to prevent us to exploit the algorithm. 😅

[wintry cipher]

The matching system is more complex. It seems, that there are two different algorithms which are switching every two weeks. But i have no proof for this. Is it fair? I do not know. But I think everybody would like to have opponents which are weaker than the own state right?

[manic wedge]

Hello. in the event [westland king] our technocenter attacked other alliances tourels.
My losses are 4,139,160. After activating +300% stated that my losses are 2,160.

The event description and boost +300% says 300% include all troops dead in technocenter or tourels.

Why did this happen?

[hollow hearth]

i think everybody would like to have a fair and challenging fight instead of a onesided war

[wintry cipher]

Yes, thats true and this everybodys right. But is life always fair? Is this even possible? I mean, in 99% there is always a bigger fish. Some months ago i had a discussion with the devs about advantages and disadvantages of older and newer states. In my opinion it is important, that every possible opponent has the same opportunities (e.g hq35 recruitment).

This should not sound arrogant, but which state would like to get s19 at the moment? I think with s3 it was the same some months ago. This changed now, because the game always changes. The strength of the states. The number of players. There always come and go players and alliances.
I mean, this all is difficult.
How would you like to do it?

[hollow hearth]

How do you think they are doing in other competitive video game ? The question is : What experience the devs want to give ? An experience Like Escape from Tarkov ? Or a fair competitive experience like mainstream games (Counter Strike, Starcraft 2, League of Legends).
And how will they do it ?
I think the main core player (in numbers) want a fair challenge - usually everyone does - But the one who pay a lot - whales - may prefer to stomp others. And they are the main financial support from the community.
Though 1) they whale will leave one they'll get bored of the Skinner's boxes if they don't get challenge 2) the main number of player who aren't whales will get bored since they'll just be one sidedly stomped by behemots.

Now for the "life is not fair" :
It's not life but a game. Unlike life you can change the rules of a game. So i don't know what it have to do with this conversation in the first place. Keep your ready-made answers for yourself next time thank you

[white totem]

@hollow hearth well said 🙌

I was about to make a two page reply

[wintry cipher]

Becaue of your last passage:
This game is a small part of our life at the moment, or why do you text here on the official discord channel of this game?
„ready-made answer“ hm, next time i should use one.... this time i was stupid enough to reply your message 😂

[hollow hearth]

yay spread the salt 😏
"This game is a small part of our life at the moment, or why do you text here on the official discord channel of this game?" -> and ? once again what does it have with the way the game work ?
It just one more reasone why the player will leave if the game is one side unfair. Because they'll consider wasting their time in PnS. Period

I'm done here. i wont reply anymore

[wintry cipher]

Good night, no interesting in this 😂
Text the devs... wait.... i do not care 😄
Stay healthy, have fun..... insert what you want 🙌

[ionic geode]

The match ups seem fair to me. Some we win and some we lose. Further up the rankings you get for taking hubs the harder it will get.

Anyone complaining about match up should say what rank they are in those rankings and what rank the opponent is. That's clearly a key factor in match ups so declare it if you want to complain about it

And you say people will get bored and quit but your suggestion is worse. If every matchup was as fair as possible then top states would play same state every time and get bored and quit. It would be. 19 vs 75 every time

[hollow hearth]

S111 against 1.000.000.000 player strong
S101 against S23 who had 2 or 3 player above 500.000.000 might where 101 had as main force i fifth of that might.
and i've seen here today 178 complaining to get stomped by S... was it 17 ?
happy with those numbers ? x) what will you do with it ?

say git gud ?

[ionic geode]

What ranking?

[elfin solstice]

Not all losses get counted for that buff. Troops lost to turret fire and troops lost attacking or defending against other sanctuaries are not included. The only troop losses that count are those lost in battle for turrets and the hub directly

[ionic geode]

You aren't saying the ranking

If you keep winning you get stronger opponents. That's normal. So is your rank similar to theirs?

[vocal aurora]

Can the governor title be passed to another player????

[twin nest]

This may be a stupid question as I see you guys are talking about bigger stuff but here it goes. if we loose the zenith. Where do the rss for the taxes get taken from?

[vocal aurora]

By what I've read it comes from each player gathering reports......when gathering reports are logged tax is deducted not 100% sure if this is correct but what I found

[twin nest]

Ty!

[elfin solstice]

Taxes come from sanctuary battles and rss transport between hq’s. You already lose these taxes regardless. When you own your zenith hub those taxes just evaporate. When another state conquers yours, they get those taxes to distribute as they please instead of them just disappearing into the ether

[twin nest]

Thank you so much! That makes sense!

[elfin solstice]

Really the only things you lose if your state is conquered are the ability to give out titles, governor reward boxes, and decrees (the boosts the governor can turn on).

[red pecan]

Do you get transported home at the end of the event?

[elfin solstice]

If you stay in a foreign state until then end of the event, yes

[red pecan]

Thanks, much appreciated.

[elfin solstice]

It random ports you back home, you wont go back to your original spot

[flint ravine]

No..I'd like a fair matchup every time. A bit tougher or a bit easier but not extreme either way. I have about as much fun stomping on little people as I do getting stomped on from a much bigger person. Either one is garbage. What is the point? This is not an issue for the older states. You all have had the time to be able to be on a competitive level. Some are stronger than others but the time that everyone had to get to that point is roughly the same.
As the game gets older and older this does not become as big of a deal. A state that is 3 years old against a state that is 3 years and 3 months old should be pretty balanced all things equal at least when it comes to how long they have been around. But when you have a state that is 3 months old going against one that is 7 months old that is utterly rediculous. I have NEVER seen anything like that in any of these games.
Our state has gone against states in the single digit numbers the past 2 wasteland wars and we are state 133. That is not fun for anyone in our state and is only fun to those who do not want any kind of challenge in the other states.

How on earth is a matchup of a state that has no one over 300 million might and only two over 200 million matched up against states that are TWICE as old. Having 10 HQ that are 30 or higher compared to 70?? That is just horrid programming

[elfin solstice]

There are many factors that go into it, including im sure some algorithms to encourage people to spend by matching them with some higher powered opponents. That said just because a state is old doesn’t automatically make it a powerhouse. There are many older states that are nearly dead due to drama, people quitting the game, bad behavior, etc. The immigration system in this game makes it fairly easy to bail from a bad situation. S12 is a good example, its an old state that was once a powerhouse, now it is pretty barren and has probably fewer than 200 active players there.

[ivory fable]

guys a question
how come the might i that i can train under comeback decree is almost half of the might i lost in wasteland king event log?

while it states i should have 120% of the might depleted under comback decree?

[elfin solstice]

It depends on how you lost the might. It only replaces might lost while attacking or defending the hub or turrets from direct attacks. It doesn't cover troops lost to turret missile strikes or troops lost in sanctuary combat. Also doesn't cover troops wounded and not killed.

@ivory fable

[reef field]

ふっふっふ

[flint ravine]

I get that. but those states had the opportunity to be just as strong. a new state did not. there simply was not enough of a time lapse for that to happen to have the depth needed to combat that old state. its not just about gear. its about quantity of troops, etc. some things just come with time. not even all the heroes are even available even to purchase for whales for new states

[ivory fable]

much appreciated Sir,
yes i was suspecting maybe dead under turrets missiles doesn't count then ,
thx 👍🏻👊🏻

[elfin solstice]

Yep, if it was from other alliances in your own state, I would recommend having everyone who is planning to defend your state join the same alliance for the event. You can always rotate people in and out of the alliance to get their occupation points. If you haven't opened up for SvS combat yet, you will need this tactic eventually

[stiff sequoia]

Ok so.. my governor was away after we won wasteland wars.. and we were going to appoint someone else as the new governor but was there a time period where he could appoint it to someone? Because when he logged back on he was it again and he really doesn’t not want the position. So does anyone have any idea how he can transfer it over?!

[white totem]

Congrats on securing your hub @elfin solstice

[marsh sigil]

Whata really fun is getting 2 states who make a deal n both hammer on you at the same time. That was a good time. S87 is a bitch n im coming for you next week.

[sharp coyote]

And not me?🥺

[white totem]

Lmfao didn't I already said it for you?

[sharp coyote]

Hmm, maybe🤔

[white totem]

I got another visit yesterday.. Very painful one

[sharp coyote]

Oh? Did you send more than before?

[white totem]

No.. I was too slow and V0027 too fast lol

[sharp coyote]

In a turret? Or where?

[white totem]

Turret..

[white totem]

After the governor role has been appointed its not possible to transfer it to someone else.

[white totem]

You can appoint a different person as governor in the first 2 hours after you won Zenith. After that you cannot. The governor will be permanent for those two weeks until the next Zenith war. @white totem

[white totem]

True Luna, thank you!

[plucky olive]

Is the 300% trainings boost after reset ?

[sharp coyote]

It is once your governor activates it

[elfin solstice]

Or at the end of the event if you lost your hub

[silent dock]

Can I ask if u lost ur hun can the state that won visit ur state whenever they want to? Or is it only during Wasteland event and valiant

[sharp coyote]

Nope, all they get from occupying is your hub reward boxes and your taxes (that you pay either way when raiding or transporting, just that now they go somewhere instead to the void).

[silent dock]

Thank you

[frozen echo]

First Wasteland King for us in 12 days time, any pro tips from you helpful guys and gals? 😬

[sharp coyote]

Unite your state and Defend your hub first and foremost. The worst you can do is have an in-state fight about the hub and another state come in and take it...

[frozen echo]

State successfully united yesterday, entirely peaceful Zenith with Top 10 getting full rewards 😬 in terms of teleporting, you can go in and out as many times as you want?

[sharp coyote]

Yes, but each port in cost 500 diamonds

[frozen echo]

I see, and is the matchmaking done via HQ level or state might or a mix?

[sharp coyote]

Your first matchup will be other states doing it for the first time. So it should be states in your near vicinity...

Later on there’s a „variety of factors playing into it“. The exact factors vary depending on which CS rep you talk to apparently😂. But the amount of hubs won in the past definitely has an impact.

[dusk siren]

I will agree to this lol! We tried requesting a state and they didn't know what to say. So many different answers lol

[frozen echo]

Ah ok, we have players who have friends that are 30HQ who want to join our server but we’re wary of pushing our HQ too high incase it matches us with an older server who will have much more 30+HQ than we bring in lol

Wary for that reason, and also incase they’re a pirate who just wants in to burn for rss and leave again

[dusk siren]

When Klossos parks on your black...meh send one hit taxis! Unlike Falkor who loved it in S77 when they did it, he wasn't impressed. 😂

[barren tulip]

Do they always mis match states during this event? State 14 against state 173. We had no chance with t9s against t11s and a few people has quit because of this. Guess game makers not interested in fair play so they will lose money.

[sharp coyote]

How many hubs has 173 won in the past?

[barren tulip]

None. We have managed to keep our own on the first event and yesterday all states in our bracket were dominated by state 14

It was our second wasteland king event

I was disappointed in how they matched us up with such an old state and no one was equipped to handle their power.

[sharp coyote]

Well, S14 was occupied 9 times and only had 6 governors yet... so I‘d say that makes the game algorithm say: weak state

[barren tulip]

So because state 14 is weak they put them in a bracket where they can dominate states they not as developed. Yeah makes sense. Not many in the other states are not happy with decision. Quite a few players has because of the poor decision making and that's just in our state alone. I'm not sure if any has quit because of this in other states. I know if this action continues to happen there will be more that quits. I also see no reason to continue playing where our state has absolutely no chance. I do thank you for you feedback and I'm done with my rant lol. Have a great game everyone!

[white totem]

Cry cry crying 😂

[flint ravine]

my girlfriend plays this game. is it so much to ask to have the devs have communication like this to the community

[cedar osprey]

Dude... We got matched against Andrew. Enough said 🤣 🤣

Instead of crying about it we managed to hold our hub for just over 9hrs

[white totem]

I told them that we were by far the most to complain, what do you want the difficulty is not made for everyone

[cedar osprey]

It sucked.. But we fought till the bitter end lmao. Can't be mad

[white totem]

Well done to you, did you make a deal with Andrew?

[cedar osprey]

Hell no, lmao. 83 doesn't make deals. We are here to play

We never back down no matter how big they are.

First time losing hub though definitely sucks. :(

[white totem]

At the same time against the 75 stay 9h it's a big win

[cedar osprey]

We ranked number 1 in wasteland and held out for as long as we could. We definitely call that a win. ^_^

We had s75 and s29. Last one was s3 and s29 lol

[white totem]

We've got it. Duration as 4 min watch in hand, we call it a good and proper fistage

[cedar osprey]

We just keep drawing the big boys it seems lol

[barren tulip]

I'm guessing he is a beast lol

Yep my crying is done lol

[white totem]

Cog, you don't know. Andrew??! :000

[barren tulip]

Nope am I supposed to

[cedar osprey]

Andrew....... lmfao

[barren tulip]

Holy fk

I'm glad I don't lol

[cedar osprey]

And we held out 9hrs against that... 🤣 🤣 🤣

So no crying allowed lmfao

[barren tulip]

Damn great job!

[cedar osprey]

83 is a pretty damn good state. We always give it our best

[barren tulip]

Not crying anymore lol we've accepted the fact they broke one off in us lol

173 is not a bad state either. Fairly peaceful and fun actually till people started quitting because we lost hub lol

[cedar osprey]

We at least made him work for it.. Took all damn day 🤷‍♀️ 🤷‍♀️ 🤣 🤣

[barren tulip]

That's the main thing. Everyone who tried in our state lost badly

[white totem]

Andrew is just the strongest player in the game.

[barren tulip]

I see that lol

[cedar osprey]

Our entire state participates in some way.. But we're definitely licking our wounds this go around

[white totem]

Tito must be the second, tito 's19

[cedar osprey]

Yes.

This is also the English leaderboard. Haven't checked out the others 🤷‍♀️

[barren tulip]

Our state was worked well together also

What is your nap in 83?

[cedar osprey]

Top four alliances are in nap. Plus their farms/allies.

[barren tulip]

We have nap 13 plus no attacking bases under hq 14

[cedar osprey]

Val, Fyf, Jpn, and Rbn. Jpn is obviously the top Japanese alliance in server. Rbn is our major French alliance

Anything else besides those are free to hit. No hitting resource tiles unless they are in your hive. No farming in others hives. Really the only state rules

83 is a war state. Not for farmers lmao

[white totem]

83 is also older than the 173

[barren tulip]

We have no tile hits at all. We are still trying to build our state up

[cedar osprey]

We're neither new nor really old lol

[barren tulip]

We are just over 2 months old

[cedar osprey]

But we seem to only get matched with the older states in events. Res war is never easy, but we've only lost once and this was our first time losing our hub

TDR I think is who we got matched with last Res

[barren tulip]

We only lost hub once but we've only had two lol

[cedar osprey]

Most of our accounts are in the 100 day old range lol

[white totem]

We're 65 days away.

[barren tulip]

Yep rw sucks. We've lost 2 and won 1 but not participate yet. A lot of new players to war games

I've played a bunch of different war games and kinda familiar with most of it

[cedar osprey]

I played dragons of Atlantis for almost the whole time until they shut down servers lol

Like 8yrs or something like that

[sharp coyote]

Oh, I‘m over double that time already... I feel so old

[cedar osprey]

But I'm sure you're a monster then lol.

83 hasn't been matched with s16 on anything.. So can't say I know much about your state

I don't feel I'm doing too bad for the amount of time I've played. But could always be better 🤣 🤣

[sharp coyote]

I‘m not a monster in S16 terms, but maybe to some three-figure-states I look like one

[cedar osprey]

Now I'm gonna have to try to find you 🤣 🤣

[sharp coyote]

It’s not hard to find me😂

[cedar osprey]

I was going to hit 200mil finally.. then wasteland happened 🤣 🤣

[sharp coyote]

Then we‘re not that far apart in might...

[cedar osprey]

My newly minted t10s got smushed. 😥

🤣 😂 🤣

[white totem]

200 😲

[cedar osprey]

Almost.. but not quite there lol

[white totem]

I understand better why you have so much resistance

[cedar osprey]

83 doesn't mess around 🤣 🤣 😂

I'm a baby beast compared to most in val 🤣 🤣

[white totem]

Our highest is at 175, we had a 600 that happened everyone stuttering 😂

[cedar osprey]

But if I would have finished promoting before wasteland, i would have hit somewhere in the 195ish range

[white totem]

I'm 45m :(

[cedar osprey]

I'm only 160 something now. 🤣 🤣 🤣

[white totem]

I'm baby 😂

[sharp coyote]

If it makes you feel better: my baby account is only 1.5m😂

[white totem]

😈

😂

[cedar osprey]

I have 1 farm at 6ish mil, 1 nearing 10mil 🤣 🤣

[sharp coyote]

Oh, I have a 10m Farm too

[cedar osprey]

I expected nothing less 😋

[barren tulip]

I started with game of war and mobile strike then played last shelter survival for a long time now this one

I still love the missiles in last shelter lol

I just wish they would allow farms in this game. It would solve a lot of our rss problems

[white totem]

Farms are allowed, you just have to be qg 15 minimum for immigrants

I have a farm 15m

[cedar osprey]

Or.. easier way is to start a new game under a different email

Then you can just start an acct in that state....

Just saying... no tickets required

[barren tulip]

Yep I have one to lol. Just says it's against terms of service

[cedar osprey]

For my kid to have his own acct on his own email? Lol

[barren tulip]

I done a new email also

For my kid of coarse lol

Soon I may have a whole baseball team of kids 😜😂

[cedar osprey]

🤣 🤣 🤣

My kid is good at sending out gathering marches for me lol. He's only 5 but a damn good helper 🤣 🤣 🤣

About the only thing he can do.. But he loves it lol

[barren tulip]

Very talented for 5 lol. Mine would be attacking everyone and everything lol

As long as he loves it 😂

[cedar osprey]

Adult supervision required.. 🤣 🤣 🤣

He loves playing with mommy lol. Thinks he's a hotshot 🤣 😂 🤣

Husband plays too

[barren tulip]

Especially in alliance chat. It's gets kinda wild so mine is not allowed to read it

I do the gathering for him lol

[cedar osprey]

He can multiply, but can't read quite yet... 🤣 😂 🤣

[barren tulip]

Lmfao

[cedar osprey]

So dodged a bullet there 🤣 😋

[barren tulip]

Mine try and spy over my shoulder when I start loling for no reason

It was just a funny gathering moment but he just gives me a funny look like yeah right dad

[cedar osprey]

Smart kid.. 🤣 🤣 🤣

[white totem]

Rectification not 4 min but 13 ... 😂

👉👌

[magic hollow]

in s106 we have a problem with governor ship, we where going to appoint the new governor to our new candidate but didnt know about the 2 h rule. now because our old governor leaved the state we cant apoint the person to new governor and im aida please help we still have the rewards and boosts stuck of wasteland king

[sharp coyote]

Nothing you can do then. Only can reappoint titles every 24h if you want to get more people any reward at all...

[magic hollow]

well shit

[white totem]

darcdanny036

Dans s106 nous avons un problème avec un navire gouverneur, nous allons nommer le nouveau gouverneur à notre nouveau candidat mais nous n'avons pas su la règle de 2 h. maintenant parce que notre ancien gouverneur a quitté l'état, nous ne pouvons pas

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[stiff sequoia]

Can anyone explain how taxes work when you have won wasteland wars on another state? How then do you start to get the other states taxes? (Our governor is not available for the next two weeks after we just won wasteland wars 😓 and the rest of us have to figure out how it works and if he needs to do something for us to access it?) like can the governor only see the rewards or collect the taxes? It was our first state vs stare war so I am not sure how to go about doing this.. 🥺 Anyone have any advice to share?

[sharp coyote]

You all can see the taxes in coffers in your hub. But only the governor can give them out.

You get them every day at reset

[stiff sequoia]

When do they expire?

[sharp coyote]

Never. we still got taxes in our coffers from a month ago...

[stiff sequoia]

Oh good!

Thank you!

[white totem]

Oluvyah

Quelqu'un peut-il expliquer comment fonctionnent les impôts quand vous avez gagné les guerres de gaspillage sur un autre état ? Comment commencer à obtenir les autres impôts d'État ? (notre gouverneur n'est pas disponible pendant les deux prochaines

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Qjuh

Vous pouvez tous voir les impôts dans les cafés dans votre centre, mais seul le gouverneur peut les donner.

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Qjuh

Vous les avez tous les jours à la remise à zéro

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Qjuh

Jamais. On a encore des impôts dans nos coffres il y a un mois....

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[celest wind]

So when u take another state does it just stay as no gov or does the person that’s leader of the alliance get it?

[flint ravine]

No gov. Only thing the state can do for themselves is set HQ level requirement for transfers in. That goes to the highest might player in the state

[celest wind]

I knew that was just really wondering about ho to get the taxes from them but I figured it out thank u tho

[dusk siren]

I have a question. The timed boosts that the governor can set. Are those once every two weeks? We wanted to set the gathering boost last night for the event, but I didn't want to waste it if I can't set it again for Ace. Thanks!

[sharp coyote]

Yes, once per two weeks only.

[dusk siren]

Thank you that is what I thought, but we wanted to make sure!

[zealous needle]

See ya soon 😘

[marsh sigil]

What State you in@zealous needle

[zealous needle]

R5 of TWO in 87 😂

[marsh sigil]

Oh well then 2 days I'll be seeing you then

[faint storm]

@marsh sigil what state are you in?

[marsh sigil]

It's in my name lol... 84.... im just a little guy... :-P

[faint storm]

Whats little? 👀

[marsh sigil]

318

[zealous needle]

Yea that’s what the see ya soon means 🙄😂

[marsh sigil]

U coming to visit? Cuz I know I'll be coming on over for some fun 😋

[faint storm]

318m?

[marsh sigil]

Yes

@faint storm

[faint storm]

Well if that's small I'm an ant 🤣 🙄

[marsh sigil]

@faint storm Pit8 let's me know how little I am in comparison to some. Keeps me grounded and also striving to get stronger

[faint storm]

Yeah I stick to pit5 🤣

I choose LIFE

[zealous needle]

Cool, good luck 👍🏻

[elfin solstice]

👋🏻 hi @zealous needle

[zealous needle]

Hey stalker lol. How are you?

[elfin solstice]

Stalking

Had probably one of our most entertaining res war of recent memory. Actually had a fairly close match up and we had a ton of fun battling it out

[zealous needle]

Nice!!! Any good battle reports to share?

[elfin solstice]

Here’s some interesting ones i guess

[zealous needle]

Definitely looks like you all had fun!! Did you all win?

[elfin solstice]

No, maybe if we had more time, we started to wear them down at the end i think

They had more depth than we do

[marsh sigil]

Very Nice @elfin solstice

[inland swan]

Oh that's unfortunate. Scythe and Gigs are unholy strong.

GG

[elfin solstice]

So are you bro! But yeah they won in the end, but one of the best res wars ive been involved with in a long time.

[zealous needle]

@elfin solstice we’ve got ours tonight

[marsh sigil]

Mine is in 30mins... gonna be borring

[pure moon]

I have a noob question here maybe, last wasteland we got paired with a younger state, no hq35s and another state similar to the one I’m in, we noticed the younger state took a hub previously to being paired with us, my question is, does taking a hub increase chances of being paired with a stronger state the next time?

[zealous needle]

Yep

[pure moon]

Thank you!

[mighty bridge]

Ok guys question,, in wasteland svs,, there is a bit of a dispute as our state is new ,,, who can hit who and where? Just the basics please

[quasi magnet]

You can only hit in the black if they are outside it you cant attack there bases

[sharp coyote]

Anything inside the black can be attacked by everyone. Things outside of the black can only be attacked if they belong to the same state as you and you‘re in that state

[mighty bridge]

So to be clear if I park in alt state in the green I can attack the hub and not be hit by the other state

Or do I have to park in the grey?

[sharp coyote]

Yes, that’s exactly how it works

[mighty bridge]

Thanks

[slate hedge]

201 регион, ищет активных игроков,мы топ 2 есть все перспективы быть топ 1,будем рады сильным игрокам,альянс [ToP],глава soldier,пишите буду только рад.

[white totem]

Qjuh

Alles in der Schwarzen kann von allen angegriffen werden. Die Dinge außerhalb des Schwarzen können nur angegriffen werden, wenn sie zum gleichen Zustand gehören wie du und du bist in diesem Zustand.

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[white totem]

Kiyo

J'ai une question de noob ici peut-être, la dernière gaspillage que nous avons été jeune avec un état plus jeune, pas de hq35 et un autre état similaire à celui que je suis, nous avons remarqué que l'état plus jeune a pris un centre avant d'être jum

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[white totem]

[ToP]Soldier

201 region, looking for active players, we top 2 have all the prospects to be top 1, welcome to the strong players, the alliance [top], the head of soldier, write only welcome.

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[ToP]Soldier

201 region, looking for active players, we top 2 have all the prospects to be top 1, welcome to the strong players, the alliance [top], the head of soldier, write only welcome.

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[rugged vapor]

Quick question. If there are coffers left in hub when wasteland starts will they stay there for next gov to distribute or dissappear?

[sharp coyote]

They stay. We still have coffers from three wastelands ago😂

[rugged vapor]

Ok awesome. Thanks

[crystal rampart]

How do you find out what states you are paired up with. This is our states first

[quasi magnet]

You will have it with a state that has it the first time

[sharp coyote]

Other than educated guesses like KaiserFranz said you‘ll only find out once the event starts. Only then will you see the exact states you are paired with

[crystal rampart]

Thank you. Was hoping to see before but sounds like we have to wait.

[quasi magnet]

I am truly very educated 🤓

[crystal rampart]

Sorry, another noob question, what happens to the alliance showdown points when a player moves to an alliance for the event then back to their main alliance after?

[crystal rampart]

Never mind, looked in the showdown channel and found the answer. Thanks

[white totem]

Rofl

[livid zinc]

Anyone know how and when match ups are made

[white totem]

Mistery

[kind python]

Can you pass governor to someone else?

[short aurora]

If you have an bubble and you will go to the hub or to one of the tower the bubble will be drop or? In you own state

[sharp coyote]

The R5 of the alliance occupying the hub can appoint governor in the 2h after you secure your hub. After that the governor is set for two weeks. If they don’t appoint anyone the R5 themselves get governor.

[sharp coyote]

Yes

[short aurora]

Thank you ^-^

[kind python]

Thx

[white totem]

[ToP]Soldier

201 bölge, aktif oyuncuları arıyor, biz ilk 2, ilk 1 olmak için tüm beklentiler var, güçlü oyunculara, İttifak'a [Top], asker başkanı için mutlu olacağız, sadece sevindim.

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[amber glacier]

Has anyone figured out how matching works. With today, we’ve now faced one state 4 of the last 5 times and another state 3 of the last 4 times. Some variety would be nice...

[knotty knot]

I don’t know but we’ve faced states with headquarters 35s and we have zero. Our strongest alliance is less than half of theirs.

[somber sapphire]

They definitely need to work on matchmaking!!

[trim smelt]

can someone advise - Target it outside of RUins?

[ember robin]

Delet

[quasi magnet]

Anyone who lost hub?

[shy fern]

How do you get the sheild? Constant occupation for 4 hours, but cumulative for 6.

Confused on it^^

[unkempt flower]

No, the hub is ours 😀

[vapid burrow]

Question: Are lost troops returning after Wasteland? Or are they home?

Gone*

[jolly roost]

if you're holding your own hub and turrets and conquer another states hub and turrets, your home hub gets a shield either until the 8-hour timer runs out or the other state takes their hub back

[shy fern]

And if you are battling back and forth for the hub, you get a 30 min sheild if you can take it from them. We just did it

Our state against anothet

[lapis void]

They don't return. They are killed. You should get a training boost to help you rebuild.

[vapid burrow]

@lapis void Tnx!

[marsh sigil]

Had a nice back n forth battle w 51 today. 👍 Gg all

[candid phoenix]

Hey can you tell me if the hub says it was taken is the event over

[marsh sigil]

Yes and no @candid phoenix Battle for the hub is over but can still hit tiles and sanctuaries in wasteland until event time ends

[candid phoenix]

Ok thanks that makes more sense to me than what I was getting lol

[jovial flicker]

Hey guys, once we take another state, how do we appoint a governor for this state ?

[stark brook]

You can’t

No gov for that state no titles

[jovial flicker]

Thanks :)

[white totem]

Thanks for the great battle

[near seal]

Hey guys, how do you give gov to another player?

[raw coral]

Make them Alliance Leader of the capturing Alliance during WW

[near seal]

Thank you 😊

[raw coral]

Welcome

[sharp coyote]

Either what Sindar said or have the R5 of the winning alliance appoint them in the first 2h after securing your hub. They have to be in the winning alliance for that to work though.

[near seal]

Yeah we were. Thanks guys 😘

[white totem]

familything

Und wenn du hin und her für den Hub kämpfst, bekommst du ein 30-minütiges Schild, wenn du es von ihnen nehmen kannst. Wir haben es gerade getan.

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[candid phoenix]

What happens to the rewards if another state takes the hub?

[sharp coyote]

The boxes go to the occupying state (they have double the boxes to give out on their state). Titles and decrees simply stay inactive for that period.

[candid phoenix]

Ok I knew the part with titles but I seen the rewards were there just didn't know who got them but thanks

[wispy escarp]

So the occupied state will not have the decrees of the occupying state simultaneously issued? I was wondering because my state was occupied, and although the decrees can’t be initiated we are showing a 300% training boost at the moment.

[flint ravine]

it does not. all occupied states automatically get the comeback decree turned on after wasteland ends. that is the only decree they will get throughout the 2 weeks however

[tired nova]

We're about to have ours in 211 and it's our first time doing Wasteland King...so it's a state versus state event and attack and plunder are the main activities is that how I understood it?

Good evening btw..

[wispy escarp]

Thanks!

[sharp coyote]

Wasteland King is Zenith war with three states and hubs. You can port anywhere into the other states but only attack Targets and be attacked in the wasteland. Plundering is only possible if you find an HQ sitting in the wasteland. The SvS event for plundering is called Valiant Conquest and happens the other week after Wasteland King.

[boreal path]

I am wondering if anyone has try to double occupancy on a tower or the hub and if it worked. For example I’m shooter strong and another member is rider strong could we fill the hub with shooters and riders, no super reinforcement and be more defensible? Or are we just making it weaker? Just wondering about different strategies.

[white totem]

There’s no right and wrong answer. Usually people attack with full March of one type, then standard practice is switch if need be to that counter in full. It’s better to super rein as I would think it’s difficult to fill a hub with everyone having super high stats

[boreal path]

Thanks That’s my thought

[white totem]

Trick is having everyone online to switch lol

[boreal path]

Omg yes. Lol

Time zones are a bitch

[tired nova]

do we know what states we go up against for wasteland and svs?

Good morning everyone...can someone answer my question please...

[tired nova]

But would we know who we're up against?

[sharp coyote]

I‘ll answer your question. No need to ask thrice in less than 3 minutes…

[tired nova]

Sorry...

[sharp coyote]

No, but you can make educated guesses

[tired nova]

How do we make educated guesses and it's based upon what?

Is the one in YT with you Valence something in S16?

[sharp coyote]

It‘ll be your first wasteland king and so you‘ll have opponents who do it for the first time too.

[sharp coyote]

Yes, @jaunty stream is with me in S16. I‘m probably even visible there in some of his screencasts

[tired nova]

Oh I was always watching his videos...if you have too that I can watch I'd indulge ..

Thanks for answering my questions .and thank you for your patience...

[sharp coyote]

His videos are really good, I‘m more the discord guru on here, he does the videos… I don’t have time to do both

[tired nova]

Oh ok I wasn't able to check yet if he's answered my q in one of his videos but since you're here I'll stick around...thank you again kindly...

[visual cosmos]

how can u put shield on a hub during wasteland

[lapis void]

Two ways:

1. Take and hold another state's hub. It puts a shield on your hub for the duration that you occupy that other state's hub.
2. Take your hub back from another state occupying it. Your hub will get a 30 min shield

[manic wedge]

Hi) and how do shields work when 3 states are captured at the same time?

[lapis void]

Do you mean if one state is holding 2 other state's hubs? If so, the shield works the same way as #1 above. Home state gets a shield because they are holding another state hub.

[manic wedge]

Not if we simultaneously hold the native Hab and the Hab of enemy state # 1 and then capture the Hab of enemy state # 3.. Where will the shield be if there are 3 of them at the same time?))

[lapis void]

If you capture and are holding/occupying 2 enemy state hubs, your state hub will have a shield

[manic wedge]

Thank you 🤗

[sharp coyote]

@manic wedge this is actually not true though. If you capture the second foreign state you’ll get a shield on the first foreign hub but your home hub‘s shield will fall…

[manic wedge]

😳 That is, technically, you can only hold one shield for 3 states?

[sharp coyote]

Yup

[manic wedge]

Thank you very much 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌

[lapis void]

That's weird. Never noticed before ... but when we took 2nd state hub we had already won ours. Thanks for clearing that up

[sharp coyote]

The last sentence in this explanation is really badly formulated. But that’s what they mean by it: activate a new shield and your previous shield falls

[hushed plover]

Do you know if the player who takes the foreign hub has to be in the alliance who is defending the home state to get the shield? Or is it working with two different alliances as well?

[sharp coyote]

They don’t have to be in the same alliance, no

[hushed plover]

Ok thank you :)

[wind wind]

I completely overlooked this - thank you 👍

[mossy abyss]

Hello, I wanted to ask because I see the same matchups from the previous wasteland is the same on our upcoming wasteland event page. Does this mean that it will be the same matchup, or that it didn’t reset yet and still has stats from the last one? The ss is what it currently shows for my upcoming wasteland(same as the prior wasteland)

[sharp coyote]

No. It says „previous war“ right there. You won’t know your matchup before the event starts

[mossy abyss]

Thanks for clearing it up😁

[white totem]

@white totem hello :))))

[white totem]

Hi

[lavish crest]

Yo 🤔

[mighty bridge]

Guys let me ask ,,, when is data normally pulled for the matchups? Best guesses count lol

[mighty bridge]

Anyone??

[errant warren]

Tag me if you find out please

[sharp coyote]

Best guess is reset before wasteland starts. But since most data used for that is nothing you can change on short notice I don’t really know if the exact time matters anyway.

[white totem]

[DyN]Bustdaukeout

Здравствуйте, я хотел спросить, потому что я вижу те же совпадения с предыдущей стороны, то же самое на нашей предстоящей странице стоимости вытеснения. Означает ли это, что это будет один и тот же матч, или что он еще не перезагрузился и все еще имеет статистику от последнего? Это то, что он в настоящее время показывает для моего предстоящего расточительного землетрясения (то же самое, что и предшествующий вастеланд).

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[mighty bridge]

Thanks,, it was a bit of a dispute because people in@my state are trying to figure out how to get best match up,,,

I know most data is collected within a short period before the reset

[red pecan]

HI, our state is new to the wasteland king and we are struggling to understand the governers role in immigration and the immigration process. Who, if anyone can open the gates and adjust the limits for base hq levels that can enter? Thanks for your time.

[lapis void]

Only the governor can do it and it's done through the Tech Hub. But the limit you can raise it too has restrictions. For example, if highest hq in your state is 31, highest immigration limit that can be set is 30.

[lavish crest]

If you want your state to grow put an hq size that you know you will handle if any trouble is caused

[red pecan]

Thankyou both

👍

[white totem]

Also if you lose hub during event if falls on your highest might in state to change rules

big jon

Aussi si vous perdez Hub pendant l'événement si vous tombez sur votre plus haute nuit dans l'état pour changer de règle.

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[twin heron]

OR you do it in a controlled way by opening the gates for 1h for the specific people you want to come inside to come inside. Keeping the state open to much higher HQ levels would just disrupt the balance inside the state and allows bullies and such to come in imo

[lavish crest]

So true

[tired nova]

Hello again..we are about to have our first wasteland in the next 24 hours I wanna know why put HQ 15 and below on the gray ground would they be safe from attacks that's why?

[lapis void]

Any hq on the grey tiles are open for attack, that's why you will see them all with bubbles/shields on for the whole duration of the event.
The strategy is to keep big players from parking on the grey tiles close to the hub or turrets. The idea is to fill in space in the grey and on the green to push the invading players as far back as possible from the hub

[sharp coyote]

But in your first wasteland event you could also meet another state that doesn’t know that and thinks they can just block the wasteland that way. So you can hit dozens of sanctuaries there and get lots of kills and resources 😈

[tired nova]

Ok thanks much gentlemen you're awesome!!!

Sorry @lapis void is a beauty...

[sharp coyote]

I could be a gentleman and still a beauty, couldn’t I?🤪

[tired nova]

@sharp coyote Of course and I like you're being straightforward too...thanks again...

[lapis void]

Thank you! 😊 and no problem

[marsh sigil]

Hoping for a peaceful WK this week.... don't feel like batting for 16 hours straight 🤣

[sharp coyote]

Just give up and let them have your hub. Should be very peaceful that way 🤪

[marsh sigil]

Yea not what I meant 🤣 🤣

[tired nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/828698485422292995/845538993575690290/image0.png

Why cant I click on occupy when my hq is on the wasteland and tried to station my troops outside

[sharp coyote]

Because you can’t occupy wasteland tiles. Also it would be a bad idea as they could be attacked by other states…

[tired nova]

The once in the wasteland are the only ones attacked right and the enemies won't attack the ones on the green land?

Ones**

[white totem]

That is right

[daring oak]

If you lose your state do you still get the 300% training boost, or are all state boosts gone? Thanks

[worn lantern]

Question for progressed gamers.
What happens if

• State A occupies Hub B
• State B occupies Hub C

Is this possible? What happens if a state conquers another one but loses its own zenith?

[white totem]

You can't loose your own if take another. Once you take other shield goes up on yours.

[quasi magnet]

But someone takes your hub then you go and take someone else hub if i got it right but yea i would like to know

[white totem]

So this will be our first wasteland loss can the new gov use our coffers?

[tired nova]

Can we a attack a foreigner on the wasteland

[white totem]

Yes

[white totem]

Anything in the wasteland during event is attackable including tiles.

[tired nova]

Thanks

[white totem]

If I understand your statement right then yes another state can end up with more than one hub.

[twin heron]

Lmao it’s S175 against fucking S27 😂😂😂

[quasi magnet]

No i was talking about klosso his statement what happens when you take another hub but lost your own

[white totem]

Feel that 103 against 25.

[white totem]

You would have to loose your hub first for 8 hours and then you could take another one right before and reset time.

[twin heron]

the game is like: Yes! that seems appropriate! I say thank you for your. confidence in us, game, but please don’t. 😂 we haven’t gone against a younger state even once! haha

[white totem]

This is our first loss but we can't beat this.

[twin heron]

fuuuuck!!!

that’s worse than ours...

[white totem]

Got 2 like that.

She is second in global.

[quasi magnet]

I think you don’t quite understand

So another state comes and takes your hub and AFTER you lost your hub you go and take the hub of the third state what happens with your own hub do the invaders get a shild or what?

[white totem]

I understand your question. I just don't think you understand my answer lol. So let's try again.
Ok so the one alliance takes yours if 8 hours isn't up and you attack another hub that shields your hub kicking out enemy.

Anytime you kick out someone from another states hub shield goes up unless they have held for 8 hours.

[twin heron]

fuuuck haha

[sharp coyote]

So you can regain your hub by taking the third state?😳

[white totem]

Yes as long as it hasn't been 8 hours.

[worn lantern]

Have you seen this in reality? Or is it a theory?

[sharp coyote]

I second that question.

[twin heron]

Nvm I misread the question.

I would love to hear the answer to that one.

[spring lava]

Hmm I've never tried to take the third state ... I know you can kick out the invaders by taking their HUB as long as 8 hrs hasn't passed but that's an interesting concept well looks like something I might get to test today

[sharp coyote]

You can’t take their hub though because it’s shielded if they invaded you…

[spring lava]

Only for thirty minutes

And also you attack same time we have done it in st151

[sharp coyote]

Nope. Yours shields only for 30 minutes if you get it back. Theirs shields for the whole time while they hold your hub.

[sharp coyote]

If you hit them while they aren’t in your hub yet/anymore you are right, yes

[spring lava]

Yes my interest was still more in hitting the third state and it cancelling out an invaders occupation of your state because if that's the case then if you ally with one state against the third say if the third is more powerful then both the other states then couldn't you keep cancelling out their invasion by taking your allies HUB each time I'm curious if that works

[sharp coyote]

Would work only one time, because then the strong state simply takes the other state and waits for the 30 minute shield to drop to take that too…

[twin heron]

Sooo... guess S27 dont wanna come into S175 or anywhere really which makes me sad bc I prepared for a battle haha

[sharp coyote]

You can go to them to battle can’t you?

[twin heron]

mwahahaha we took S27 hub now. thanks. 😂😂😂

and ours is capped lmao

[sharp coyote]

Sorry S27

[rose carbon]

S146 got s43 & s58 today definitely something up with matching

Congrats s175

[haughty needle]

Can anyone explain the thirty minute shield and what causes it to appear? I’ve seen people kicked from the hub and not get it.

Also saw one allegiance take and bubble it, and then leave and a second allegiance took it while it was bubbled.

[spare verge]

178 got 80 and 35.....

[white totem]

Hello guys

[lavish crest]

Hello 👋

[white totem]

I was wondering ....exactly how does super reinforcement work during rallies? I know it says commander's boost will be applied...but does that mean the entire stats % is applied on top of individual stats?

[unreal hearth]

How much is rss tax.

[paper niche]

I believe 30% on raids and depends on your trading post for the tax sending to another alliance member.

[lavish crest]

Whose getting taxed?

[unreal hearth]

Thank You!

No one yet Killa, just inquiring

[lavish crest]

Oh ok

[zealous owl]

If we win our WLK, does governor default to alliance leader? Or is there a time limit?

Because alliance leader is MIA

[boreal path]

You can chose who is governor. So if your R5 is Mia chose a different person To go to the hub and collect the title

[zealous owl]

Can you show a screen shot of how to collect title?

Newer state & first win. Sorry to sound like a dunce

[boreal path]

The blue shield on the hUB You click that and another screen opens up

I don’t remember that screen says but it’s something along the lines of accepting the governor position or what not

We have generally had the person who was going to be governor as the lead in the hub at least for the final couple minutes. I don’t really think this matters but it’s probably good practice

The governor can assign an aid who could help them assign all the titles and distribute the award boxes

@zealous owl

I am wondering if anyone has had a governor switch alliances... does the title go with them or stay with the alliance?

[zealous owl]

It defaulted to leader of winning alliance after 2 hours. So at least we have it. Lol Still new to the mechanics of this game.

We had a previous governor leave to go to another state. She removed all titles before she left & we were left with nothing when she did so.

I would guess the governor title goes with you if you change alliance. It did in KoA.

[worn lantern]

Gov Titel stays at Gov, no matter if he switches alliances.

[sharp coyote]

The stats from the commander replace the stats for all other players. So it can harm you to super if the commander doesn’t have best stats for all troops in rally.

[fluid fern]

So I have a question about the fast comeback state decree. I lost quite a lot of troops yesterday while attacking a turret. Will I be in receipt of the 300% training boost? It’s says everyone who loses might will get the benefit excluding those attacks on turrets. Is this a new change to the rules or am I reading it wrong? Thanks

[lapis void]

If you were attacking a turret, your losses should be part of that 300% boost. The gov just needs to start the boost.
If you're sitting in the hub and being hit by a turret firing on the hub, those lost troops don't count towards the 300% boost.

[fluid fern]

Thank you so much for that! I made a mistake yesterday as I told my members all troops would be healed when the event ends (as with all other events) only to find out that’s not true!! But they will be happy to know they get the 300% training boost!

[lapis void]

No problem.
Wasteland is basically the only state or alliance event that your troops do not go to a State Infirmary. They go into your personal sanctuary infirmary. Its good to have many and always level them up so the capacity of wounded they can hold is large. If you have maxed out your wounded in your infirmary, some will go to your alliance infirmary but the rest are killed, so gone completely. Make sure during wasteland you are healing your troops in your own sanctuary infirmary often to ensure your infirmary doesn't reach max capacity. It's also a good idea to save healing speedups for Wasteland to help with this.
Wasteland troop loss breakdown is 30% killed and 70% wounded.

[fluid fern]

Thanks for that! It was my first time going to another state to attack. I will know for next time. Luckily my infirmaries took most of my troops in. I only lost 6k in total. I’m fairly new to being leader and felt I had let everyone down! They are a good alliance though and forgave me quick 😂 I appreciate your reply though cheers

[quiet ocean]

Does anyone know where I can find information regarding the taxes we must "pay" other state while they are governor of ours? Are those taxes only taken from transporting rss to each other within state? Or does it include raiding taxes as well? Thank you in advance!

[sharp coyote]

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[naive spindle]

Does holding all three hubs give you any benefit in shielding ?

[torpid steeple]

shielding?

[elfin solstice]

The shield on your home state will drop if you occupy the other two states also

[twin heron]

We got S27 and it was close! we nearly had them! haha

[twin heron]

if you conquer a hub, your own state hub will have a shield for as long as you hold that hub. Means your own state is protected from attacks for the duration you are holding the other state hub

if another state conquers your hub and you conquer it back, your state will have a 30min shield.

which is hella frustrating as attacker bc you just sit there for half an hour, take towers and wait until you can try conquering the enemy hub again lol

[tired nova]

Soooo beefy and sexy

Yay we won our first Wasteland and get to have S201 for the next two weeks...

[twin heron]

nice.

[broken stag]

S83 and s110 here

[final maple]

S195 got s201 last wasteland and now we meet s40 and s79. I think next wasteland you meet Andrew, Titto or Isabel, lol

[boreal path]

So I noticed that a neighboring state has an incredibly obnoxious and rather ignorant state name. Bunch of the people in that state are upset by it. I know that the name can only be changed by the governor or possibly the aid. But is there any recourse at the people of the state have as far as it relates to the name of their state?

@tranquil stump

[tired nova]

I would love to meet them then...should have tagged them here 😂 😂 😂 😂

[tired nova]

What was the name? Ours in 211 is XXX but the middle X is lower dunno how to type it 😂 😂 😂

[final maple]

You meet Derdad, you'll be naked. 😎

[tired nova]

Aw so much nakedness already here in 211 so I'm good 🤣 🤣 🤣

[tired nova]

Oh my lol everyone cums I guess 🤣 🤣 🤣

[rotund vessel]

Try reporting to cs for inappropriate language. See if that helps

[quasi magnet]

Tbh for state 69 its very appropriate 🤣

[crimson sun]

That was my thinking. Any other state, yeah it's a problem. But that one? Kinda appropriate. U know ppl move to that state just for the # lol

[broken oak]

So does anyome know how the matchmaking works for wasteland or is it random

[sharp coyote]

It’s an algorithm that takes lots of data to calculate the matchup. Not all of it is known, but amount of states occupied in the past and overall state might are part of the mix.

[broken oak]

Ok then

Thxs

[white totem]

Guys, why is it important to clear the gray area of tile gathering for the Wasteland King event?

[flint ravine]

people from other states that port in to your state can only attack in the wasteland area. so if you are gathering in the wasteland they will attack those troops for points or just to attack for shits and giggles

[white totem]

Thank you!

[pure narwhal]

Hey Gov !

[white totem]

Hey!!

Another question, we should cover the Gray Area/Wasteland with shielded sanctuaries because the enemy State can only set up their sanctuary on the Wasteland, right?

[river cape]

Nope. They can set up anywhere and March in. They can ONLY be hit for points in the Wasteland.

[white totem]

Ah, so we can.hit them for points if they set up there?

[river cape]

Or tile hit them, yes.

[white totem]

They can gather from our tiles?

[river cape]

Most definitely!

[white totem]

Wowza, good to know!!

Thank you so much!

[river cape]

We can gather from theirs as well. Also, they can gather from anywhere in state, not just wasteland.

You’re welcome.

[white totem]

So, it would be a bad idea then to have any of our players on the Wasteland.

We should sit on the green around the hub and attack them if they get on the Gray Area, right?

[river cape]

Unshielded. Certainly since one hit in the wasteland area random ports you.

No points d’or hitting on the green.

[white totem]

Yes, but if the enemy is on the wasteland and I am on the green, I can attack them right?

[river cape]

Sure. But, as far as I know, you only get points if they are in the Frey. You can hit FROM the green for points though.

[white totem]

Frey or Gray?

Sorry, so many layers to this game so I anna be sure we're all in the right places 🤣

So, I can hit them from the green for points.

[river cape]

In the grey, yes. They have to be in the grey area around the hub.

[white totem]

One last question, should we cover the Wasteland with shielded Sanctuaries? If so, why is this beneficial?

[river cape]

I don’t see any benefit in it since they can park further out and March in.

[lapis void]

We plug up the wasteland with shielded sanctuaries. It forces the bigs from the other state to park on the green and further away. Could give you time to react to a hit. Also stops the bigs from sitting on the wasteland next to a turret. Why make it easier for them to attack? Push them back away from hub as much as possible

[sharp coyote]

It’s a double edged sword really. If you set up shielded sanctuaries in the wasteland you hinder really big players from just sitting next to the turret and immediately hit anyone out that goes in. But if you have lots of people in the wasteland you will have shields going down early (yes, you will; I haven’t seen any state yet that managed to have all shields hold through the whole event). Those sanctuaries can (and probably will) be hit by foreign invaders. You don’t get any points for kills or casualties in those fights and you will lose resources over warehouse cap. And the sanctuary will be ported away on the first hit, so now you have a hole the size of a sanctuary anyway, where the bigs could port in.

[white totem]

Hmm, thank you, and how do you guys enforce no tile gathering from the gray area during the event?

[sick cargo]

Hit whoever does it

[white totem]

That's what I was thinking, but wasn't sure if that's how more experienced people handle it.

[sick cargo]

Yeah I'm not entirely sure, I'm only a month or so in the game, but pretty much if you do it you're liable to get hit and messaged to not do it until it's drilled in your head. Hard to forget after that

[white totem]

OK, thank you!

[bronze wraith]

This might be a dumb question but if someone moves to a state the day before svs, can they take part. Never actually had to wonder about that before

[paper niche]

Yes, they can

[bronze wraith]

Ty I figured that much

[sharp coyote]

Usually the other states enforce that rule for us😂 we just inform everyone that they shouldn’t as they can be hit there. Those who don’t listen get hit there. Surprise.

[quiet ocean]

Question about super rein. When it says commander boosts, does it refer to the just the captains hero boosts or TOTAL commander boosts?

[quasi magnet]

Total

So if you not careful it can weaken your whole tower

[quiet ocean]

Thank you!

And if you do not super rein, then the individual stats per person would apply?

[elfin solstice]

Yes

[humble terrace]

Question: if we go to the other state will it leave a gap ?

[quasi magnet]

Yes

[humble terrace]

That sucks, in ROE we would have a purple bubble in current state and go into the other state to fight 😂 works a lot better

[gritty thunder]

Dear developer,

Thank you for the torture by matching us to the older state against us newbies state. I don't know how you run the matchmaking but you guys sure do know how ruin the fun and find our soulmate. If someone asks me is this game fun? Yeah at first, but not this ridiculous matchmaking making system. I'd best bet to play Farmville instead.

Best Regards,
KiLLa.

[humble terrace]

Agree

[gritty thunder]

There's 197 gaps between our state and I wonder how does this matchmaking works... (^^)

[ornate dew]

Witam, na jakiej zasadzie działa matchmaker łącząc ze sobą stany do eventy? S210 sparowło z s13 ?

[white totem]

j_are_k

Hello, on what principle Matchmaker works combining states to Events? S210 S13 S13?

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[ornate dew]

O cześć Kilka!

Killa* - automatyczny slownik

[white totem]

j_are_k

KILLA * - Automatic dictionary

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j_are_k

Hi a few!

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[gritty thunder]

Yes

This match is ridiculous 🤣 old state versus the two newborn bebes

[ornate dew]

Może to błąd i należy to zgłosić?

[white totem]

j_are_k

Maybe this is a mistake and should be reported?

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[gritty thunder]

@ornate dew yes

[past zealot]

Quick question, the troops lost during wasteland king you dont get back rite? Like you can super heal them in any way correct?

[cedar steeple]

What you lose you lose, but you get a 300% training speed bonus to regain your troop lost.

[elfin solstice]

Keep in mind it only counts troops lost in combat for wasteland objectives for that buff. Not troops killed in combat against sanctuaries, rss spots, or to turret fire

[subtle adder]

Only if your state wins right?

[sharp coyote]

No, the 300% boost is automatically started if you lose your hub.

[subtle adder]

Gotcha

[white totem]

Who assigns governor and how lmao

Serious question btw

[knotty gull]

Why aren't my casualties not counted

[spare verge]

Same. Going against s24.... 154 states newer

[elfin solstice]

Read my post a few messages up. The only casualties that count for the rebuild buff are those killed fighting for turrets and hubs. Doesnt even count troops lost while in the hub from turret missles

[knotty gull]

I lost troops in a turret

No casualties, but got kills

But tiles, I get kill points

[worthy echo]

The alliance that holds the zenith assigns it. Must be done with in the 2 hour window or the system will do it automatically

[jade lark]

Do killed troops return at the end of Wasteland Kings like they do in Valiant?

[white totem]

I found a video helping thanks!

[paper niche]

No, they do not

[worthy echo]

Perfect

[worthy echo]

No they do not. Please make sure to check all 3 hospitals

HQ infirmarys
Alliance hospital
Deep infirmary

[jade lark]

Thanks!

[ebon magnet]

I may have missed it but how are the matchups determined? Seems like it is to promote spending money to recover vs keeping the game interesting!

[fallen summit]

No they don’t.

[boreal path]

My state s70 has been matched with state 51 for 3 maybe 4 s s in a row... this seems odd, and I’m starting to feel like I’m fighting my friends!

[hybrid barn]

We’ve been matched with s10...convinced this is a dev team...very unusual tactics

They have a lvl 35 with only plus 1 weapons....really

[stiff sequoia]

Question:
When you take over another state, you cannot pass out titles correct? But is there a way to assign the current governor who took over the new state into that position?

[elfin solstice]

The conquered state has no governor or titles for the two week duration unless in state politics create an unofficial acting governor while it is conquered

[cedar steeple]

Someone have an idea what are the taxes are when we conquer a State?

[flint ravine]

The taxes are the tax on transporting and attacking that normally just go nowhere. Instead if nowhere it goes to the occupying state

[pulsar timber]

Yeah. Why matching a state 5 months older and 5 times stronger than us? What kind of function/script is coded for matchmaking(so-called)?

[gritty thunder]

Omg that's so rigged... we got matched with way way older server than us.

[quick python]

Agree with you. I'm in 92, and we were matched with 49, a state that had 4 35s at nearly 1 billion in might each. It makes no sense that such a newer state would be matched with a much older one with heavy hitters like that.

[ebon magnet]

Ouch, if the set up to evenly match states then I see no reason why we should not be informed of how they are determined. I can however understand keeping this a secret from the players if it is a money grab.

[sharp coyote]

Allegedly they are working on an explanation of the matchmaking algorithm that is “easy to understand for the players “😂

[ebon magnet]

Lol, if the algorithm is that complex that it needs a professionally written explanation then they have no clue if it works or not. Which if they ask the players they would find out it does not.

[elfin solstice]

92 is not a newer state. Its about 6 months old, only about a month or so newer than state 49. However both states have been open to hq35 transfers for about a month now. Once that happens, state age really goes out the window as a justification for a matchup.

[quasi magnet]

Yep and age doesn’t mean strength if a old state is dead and only has like 1-2 allys in there an state newer with like 10 times the players it’s quite obvious who is considered the stronger state

[pulsar timber]

We, S152, matched with S10. Our mightest player has 200M might. If she were in that state she would be 25th in ranking. If you say this is reasonable.. Then... I am waiting for S75. We will conquer Andrew 😋

[white totem]

Question. When you take another hub and yours gets bubbled can your hub still take damage from attacks or turrets?

[sharp coyote]

Yes, the turrets still do damage, but it can’t be attacked by troops directly.

[agile trellis]

I’d love for black area in the border of map for wastes like Res wars for safe spots and make the combat zone bigger than what it is at the moment

[lament oasis]

Good afternoon.
Tell me, what amount of tax will the players of the region pay if they lose in the Wasteland?
And how is it removed?

[white totem]

It is already when you transport rss or raid a HQ. Usually these taxes go into the void. If you loose wasteland, these taxes go to the other state. This ends at next wasteland.

[barren parcel]

We might have recruited some players from another state. If they immigrate the day before wasteland starts, can they participate or is there a "cooldown" period before they can join in?

[void sleet]

What day is matching for wasteland?

[paper niche]

There is no cooldown. They can participate right away. I migrated 5 minutes before and was able to participate.

[barren parcel]

Thanks 🙂

[paper niche]

You're welcome

[pulsar timber]

Are Zenith Tech Hub and Towers supposed as sanctuary? I mean, does Atropos work on Zenith?

[lapis condor]

No she does not work on hubs and towers

[solemn umbra]

How long before WK starts are the match-ups made

[broken stag]

You find out when the event starts sadly

[grand pewter]

All the Intel event spam in state chat is going to get annoying for wasteland

[white totem]

Wasteland event is starting in a few minutes, have fun! 😈

[boreal path]

So we have been paired with state 51 for the last five wastelands. Honestly I don’t understand that. I’m not really complaining but it seems like this is a bit of a glitch. @white totem

[hushed plover]

I know it had been asked before but i can't remember the answer: When taking a third hub which hub(s) are bubbled then?

[sharp coyote]

Your home hub it seems.

[hushed plover]

But the second hub doesn't get a shield then?

[sharp coyote]

Nope

[white totem]

What state are you in?

[boreal path]

S 70

[white totem]

Im in 143 and got paired with s56…

[boreal path]

Tagged wrong person I guess

[white totem]

I wish I would get 51. Could do valiant lol

[boreal path]

It’s a nice enough group of people, just doesn’t seem like we should have been matched with them five times in a row. That’s pretty much the point I’m trying to make and I can’t seem to get that through to the developers LOL

[white totem]

Leave a ticket 🚀🙈

[boreal path]

I did last time

[sinful jewel]

Uhhhhh state 240 is here?

[lapis condor]

Where?

[sinful jewel]

I dropped a location in State chat

[lapis condor]

This is pns discord not your alliance chat

[glass edge]

Hello, how long does the hub shield stay up?

When it gets activated

[strange cradle]

Question: if another state wins the your Zenith hub who assigns governor and who rules the state?

[sharp coyote]

Depends: if you regain your hub then 30 minutes, if you occupy another states hub, then your home hub stays shielded as long as you hold the other hub.

[sharp coyote]

Nobody and nobody

[glass edge]

Thank you 🙏🏽

[strange cradle]

@sharp coyote thanks

[elfin solstice]

Unless you take the third hub also, in which case your shield drops

[barren oak]

Is atk on green allowed for state resident

I swear it was disable for atk and rally atk during ww until recent update and no one on green was able to get atk

[elfin solstice]

The game allows it like always for in state residents. During wasteland you only cant attack players from foreign states on the green

[barren oak]

I tried many time to atk in past ww but it always been disable when atking residents alliance

So that mean i can fly an alliance to an opponent state and atk everyone on green while my main is defending state hub sweet i like that idea

[elfin solstice]

Huh? You attack your own state members within your own state at anytime during any event per game rules, your state may have other rules, but that doesnt change the game mechanics. You can only attack bases from other states on the green during valiant conquest

[barren oak]

Hrmmm confusing but thanx

[agile relic]

Just because you go to another state doesn’t make it a free for all. All the same rules apply. Valiant Conquest is the event where you can go hit opposing 2 states you were against for Wasteland. All you can do in Wasteland is be a pest and hit tiles on the black sand

Unless you want be an ass and hit your own state players during a SVS event.

[agile relic]

@lethal totem some people’s kids.
Gotta love this game. It is what it is. Can’t fix stupid.
And whatever other super cliche and yet somehow incredibly accurate sayings you want to throw out there.

[hushed plover]

We had this yesterday. Our shield also stayed up after taking the third hub.
But we just resettet the third hub and in the moment we left it we had no more shield, wether on our own hub nor the second hub.

[elfin solstice]

Correct, it will cancel your shield when you do that

[south stump]

I’m in 146 and we were paired with 13 a few wastelands ago lol

[cedar steeple]

We made that mistake too 2 wastland a go. Tried to reset another a 3rd hub, we lost ur bubble and lot the hub.

[lavish crest]

Y’all are strong 😂

[south stump]

You all didn’t go down easy… so credit to your state as well 😉

[lavish crest]

We sure did

We all did our best

[torpid coral]

Main thing is to have fun, sacrificing sleep for me.

[clear coral]

Do all states automatically open fully at some point or does the Governor keep some control.

[wild fractal]

I just think the developers made a huge mistake with wastelands match ups this past weeks. I don't know how they think that a top state is even remotely in the same ballpark as a state thats been around for less than 4 months

[sharp coyote]

What states are we talking here? Based on your nickname I‘ll assume 31/206. 31 got occupied 4 times in the past, but only ever took 3 other hubs. Hence it’s seen as a weak state, not top at all (old though). 206 never lost their hub (prior to this wasteland), so they were seen as stronger than 31 in that respect. By losing now you’re in for a really good matchup the next time though, as now the system sees you as a weak state and will match you with others like that.

[wild fractal]

It can't be solely based on wins. That system is broken. You can't have a state with multiple 35 HQ and 300 million might players going against a state that won it's only first 3 wastelands. I mean how many wastelands has 31 had vs the 3 we participated in? We have 0 players at 300 million might. I am the only 35 in the state.

You can't even expect a battle from any smart player isn't going to lose 600k troops or more trying to defend against that. I just let them take it. Not worth losing all my troops to have to take 3 months building 1 march again of t11's.

It's over now but hey whatever. I hope they feel a sense of achievement taking over 2 states that have only been around a little over 3 months. Kudos to them they showed how powerful they are compared to a few states in the 200's.

[quartz flame]

They will feel it when they get a huge state for taking 2 hubs.

[white totem]

Qjuh

Jakie stany mówimy tutaj? Na podstawie twojego pseudonimu zakładam 31/206. 31 Zostało zajęte 4 razy w przeszłości, ale kiedykolwiek wziął 3 inne piasty. Dlatego jest postrzegany jako słaby stan, nie do góry (stary). 206 Nigdy nie stracił koncentratora (przed tym pustkowia), więc były one postrzegane jako silniejsze niż 31 w tym względzie. Utrata teraz jesteś na naprawdę dobre dopasowanie następnym razem, jak teraz system widzi Cię jako słaby stan i dopasuje cię do takich innych.

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Nie można wyłącznie opierać się na wygranych. Ten system jest uszkodzony. Nie możesz mieć stanu z wieloma 35 centralnymi i 300 milionami, może gracze wobec stanu, który wygrał tylko pierwsze 3 pustkane. Mam na myśli, ile Wastelands ma 31 lat, w którym uczestniczyliśmy? Mamy 0 graczy na 300 milionów. Jestem jedyną 35 w państwie.

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[foggy marsh]

Do you have to be in state so long before you can do nukeland?

[quartz flame]

Nope

[ornate palm]

Hey all, when does wasteland do it’s match making and is there anything u can do to influence the match up?

[sharp coyote]

Probably at reset before wasteland and yes, you can lose/win more/less hubs during the previous wasteland 😂

[ornate palm]

👍

[sharp coyote]

I think this falls under rule No. 2 of the #📚sanctuary-rules

[toxic crypt]

The previous governors of my state got greedy and took other states and then put the state in a hole and left. Now we are battling states with players twice the power we are, the latest has a player with over 1b so I get what you mean

[toxic crypt]

Yeh untruths there, we lost our hub 3 times in a row and was paired up with s59 and 21 in the last 2 and I doubt either had lost their hubs at all... I think unless you know as fact rather than assumption one will need to say it's speculation instead of making bold statements as such

Oppsy that came out abrupt, sorry bout that 🤐

[mighty barn]

How do you choice the pairing for this event? I mean how in hell do you think a state like 186 have any chance to win against state 15 ?? 😓

[south stump]

We are 249 and paired with 9 and 13 😳

[delicate drum]

That is even worse than us. 225 got 23 and 66😢

[south stump]

Makes no sense…

[mighty barn]

Yeah I agree... It's the third time that shit happened to us

[dire garden]

Why we have same old server again? We just had state 14 last Wk now we get the same again. Why? How do we win again 1 million mights and t11 riders

[summer quartz]

Depends mostly on the history rank of wastelandwar...But i was also often confused so i dont know what exactly what they care of...maybe the other mods can help you all

[cedar steeple]

204 and 207 are paired with 57....... fun mach..... for them 😂

[dusk gust]

hey guys, I have a question, how does turrent works?bombard the hub by constant amount or propotional?

[quartz flame]

Do you have a strong player who can smash up the state's around you easily? Like someone covered in 8* gear? That's usually what I've seen with 175+ getting older states. No one actually knows the reason for the draws. Possibly a hidden ELO score that we can't see.

[south stump]

Theirs…

[delicate drum]

ouch

[south stump]

Ours

[pseudo root]

Anyone else having issues with not beimg able to relocate to another state for wasteland king? Only giving me view table and whem I try to go wants 500 Diamonds to relocate? Also stam and ap are replenishing very slow

[south stump]

Right lol

[quartz flame]

It definitely goes somehow by how you do in the other WWs, not by your might. If your strong guy beat up others states, it's likely to happen to your state. Your guy just doesn't have a lot if troops, one reason his might is lower. He is covered in 8* boosts.

[summer quartz]

Turrets doing %dmg... and if its occupied for 5min it will shoot

[mighty barn]

Their 😂😂

[delicate drum]

lol you got rolas

[mighty barn]

Yeah I'm not sure we should cry or laugh

[delicate drum]

i don't feel as bad as i did earlier after looking at those guys.

[mighty barn]

The third biggest of the while game 🤣🤣

[delicate drum]

on the English global leaderboard

[mighty barn]

Where do you see this ?

[delicate drum]

the English part?

[mighty barn]

Yep

[delicate drum]

under the green text

[mighty barn]

That's odd I can only see the state leaderboard

[delicate drum]

Not sure why, but some of my alliance members have said the same thing.

[mighty barn]

NP 😊

[dusk gust]

shoot every five minute?

[summer quartz]

Think so

[dusk gust]

Thank you!

[sage spear]

You only see the global leaderboard after about 120 days in the game

[south stump]

Good gawd

Need to make all events like Speaker Trap so they can’t bounce alliances during or right before like this guy

[delicate drum]

Please no, that would be awful..

That would mean i have to leave my awesome family for more than i already do😂

[flint ravine]

you have to be above a certain level of might or ranking in your state or something like that does not have to do with length. my farm for instance still can not see global leaderboard while i could almost right away

[sage spear]

So something more complex than it should be, like everything else. Mine just happened to have hit that on day 120 then 🙂

[delicate drum]

Maybe it has something to do with being on your state leaderboard?

Because i don't even remember not having the global one on my main account.

[flint ravine]

that could be it

i believe i could see the global from like day 1. surely within the first week or 2

[stiff sequoia]

⚠️ NEED HELP ⚠️
we just won SvS and the state who won governorship doesn’t have the option to pass over governor on their screen— to another player to appoint governor? Anyone know why this is happening?

Could it be because leadership was changed during SvS war? we only have 1 hour left to pass out the title and for some reason it is not showing up did they change something in the game updates?

[mighty barn]

Oh thanks I didn't know... I can't even remember when I start it 😂😂

[wintry pecan]

You mean the alliance who was occupying the hub when the war was won cannot transfer governorship to anyone else?

[stiff sequoia]

Yes it was strange. The leader of the alliance didn’t have the symbol to pass it out and then they tried to pass leadership to someone else on the team and screen-shared to see if they could figure it out and they didn’t have it either so we thought maybe with game updates it would come later we weren’t sure. So they passed it back to the previous leader during SvS and then it appeared randomly so idk ! But luckily we got it!

[wintry pecan]

Phew! I was biting my nails over here waiting for an answer. I'm really glad it worked out! It definitely sounds like you were on the right track when you said that it had something to do with leadership changing during the War.

[ashen olive]

This SvS pairing system needs a serious look at how it is truly pairing matches. The age of a state really needs to be a factor in matchups.

Two weeks ago 206 was paired up against 30. Obviously we lost by an absolute landslide because the state is twice as old as us and has a six 35s LMFAO

Now today we get paired up against 31 and 168 …

It boggles my mind that the developers would allow this kind of unfair matchup to happen for any reason other than to just force people to spend more money.

developers if you’re reading this you really need to get on this or you’re going to start losing a lot of players. And 206 is not the only ones who have been screwed over in the system either. Figure it out.

**PS … A large number of us will not be spending any more money until we start getting fair matches. The translator and chat system are garbage as well. We’re not gonna feed into your money engine until some real changes start to occur.

[jolly roost]

I've heard there's alot that goes into the pairing system, such as highest level HQ, overall state might, past victory/loss, probably even a RNG just for laughs... but overall it's a war game, one side is always going to be stronger, you just have to adapt and formulate a better strategy

[ashen olive]

🌚

The spoken words of someone who is from the original states.

What strategy would you use against six HQ35 with one brand new 35? Must be an impressive strategy. 👍

Also ironic that you would say this when you were the conquering state last time.

[white totem]

Question if your state takes 2 states for WW will their next WW be harder or all the same?

[broken stag]

Usually that's a death sentence to get s19, s49

[broken stag]

Basically it gets harder

[river cape]

Speaking from a little bit of experience: each state has its own stats which are compared against the others…including won/lost. S187 hasn’t had a loss yet, it’s been open for 8-10 weeks. Our state diplomat has been able to make deals that allowed us to keep our hub. We haven’t taken another hub, either. Today that was in jeopardy. I’m not privy to the details, but s136 was a royal pain in our collective derrière. They took our turrets twice. We managed to maintain control, but at what cost? Next time the states will be harder to beat, and I’m dreading it.

[river cape]

My response would be to try negotiating, and if that didn’t work, run and hide in the deepest hole!

[prime spear]

So what happens if you are in another state when wasteland ends? Do you randomly port back to your own? Thanks!

[quartz flame]

You likely will get the other states that took 2 others or the best rated states. Either way, it won't be easy.

[quartz flame]

Random TP back

[prime spear]

Thanks!

[white totem]

Thank you

[white totem]

Thanks for the help

[river cape]

Good grief! I need sleep!
I read that as random tp ATTACK! Lmao!!!
Tp=toilet paper on my grocery list, lol.

[white totem]

Oh yes - when the wasteland sleep deprivation kicks in! I know that well. Hope your svs went well!

[river cape]

Thanks. It was busy. S136 decided to attack, but we won the day!

[white totem]

Well done!! we were the same - got reset just enough to not have the consecutive hold - but - got the overall occupation. Was tough but got there!

[river cape]

They only went for turrets, avoiding the hub for some strange reason, so our clock didn’t reset. Thank goodness! That was the longest four hours of my life!

[white totem]

I am confused as to what, I, a low level player should be doing in this event. Can someone please explain it simply for me?

[white totem]

hi Alieshia - it depends how your alliance / state organises controlling the Hub / Zenith. Usually (depending on your state) - Once Wasteland starts it is your states mission to keep control of your Zenith / Hub. Usually the strongest in your state will band together to achieve this. Enemies from the state you've been matched with, may enter your home state and attack your hub and the turrets to either gain control of your state or to at least make things difficult for you. for example the low level players in my state may not be strong enough to help defend the Hub & turrets; but they can help by keeping the grey area around the hub free from people gathering so the enemies don't gain points and they also usually update our state chat with coordinates of enemies etc as an assist. Hope that info helps. Your best option is to chat with your alliance leaders and or state leaders as they may have further insight as to how you can help.

Ok thanks. So I don’t go to the other state and attack. I’m good with what I do in my state, just thought I should be doing some thing else. 🙂

[white totem]

You're welcome! technically you can go to the other state if you wanted to; but you run the risk of killing a lot of your troops - and with wasteland, unless they're wounded - the killed troops wont revive.

Ah ok. I’ll stay at home and hide then 🤣🤣🤣 thank you so much!!

[sour merlin]

How do I get points new to the game

[white totem]

Wish people wouldn’t NAP for wastelands. It seems to be killing the game. One of the most important features of the game is the state vs state fights, but seems some states don’t even want to fight, only in VC so they don’t lose troops. What is the bloody use of troops if you don’t even really use them. Go play FarmVille NAP states

[wintry pecan]

For Wasteland King, you gain points in three different ways:

1. Occupation Points are gained through being in (occupying) a turret or the Zenith over a period of time. Because the turrets and hub are where your state makes their defensive stands, this will likely be open only to the strongest players in the state, so this will likely not be a path for a brand new player.
2. Kill Points are gained when you kill enemy troops, with the higher level troops granting more points. Only troops on the grey area (the Wasteland) in the center of the state can engage in any combat, so this would involve battle involving one of the occupied footholds or a resource tile in this area AND killing enemy troops in the process.
3. Casualty Points are gained when your troops are the ones being killed in the skirmishes described above.

Before seeking points in either of the ways described above, talk to the r4s of your alliance to find out exactly what the procedures in your alliance and state are. Attacking an enemy foothold may be forbidden because of a Non-Aggression Pact in place or in negotiation. Though there are individual rewards, Wasteland War is a State event, and your actions represent and impact your state, so act wisely and seek council from your leaders. ;-)

[river cape]

What we in s187 do for Wasteland is fill in holes in the green area around the wasteland. Some will bring their whole sanctuaries down since those take up four squares, then use a troop to occupy one square in four so the invaders have to land much further out, giving them at least a half hour March if they don’t speed things up. Others will just occupy one of those squares. It all helps :).
They cannot hit you on the green, they can’t even scout you if you’re on the green

[white totem]

Morning I have a plan - yes! I forgot about this - we do this too. Also one of our alliances (if we are organised enough) get our state littles to shield and park on the grey as well making it a bit harder for the enemies to port in and getting access to our hub. - ps thanks for responding as well, I always notice and follow your posts cause you have such great answers!

[fallen steeple]

So, I have an unusual question for the group. Can a governor wait to start fast comeback until the next ace commander? Does it retain a “memory” of troops lost during wasteland, or do troops retrained in the interim count for it?

[river cape]

Awwwww, Thank you!
I keep meaning to suggest parking in the grey, and keep forgetting. Our biggest problem, especially for Valiant, is getting folks to actually shield!
I’ll try to remember to get a shot of our fields of campers, lol. And how organized some of our alliances are when setting up their area so no one can get in there.

[river cape]

The final two days of Ace are building, research, and training, so go for it now!

[surreal karma]

Unfortunately, the entire game is turning into Farmville.

[wintry pecan]

This is not a weird question at all. I have thought about that too, so thanks for bringing it up. I don't have an answer for you now but I'll find out for sure!
Basically, does the game remember the amount of troop loss you suffered during the war and then use that as your personal cap?
Or does it note your troop might at the beginning of the war and then whenever the boost is started, you can train troops with the cap being 120% of that beginning troop might. This second method will cause the number of troops you are able to train with the boost to be much reduced.
So, it's definitely a good thing to figure out for sure.

[severe obsidian]

Hello everyone! Does anyone know why the 300% boost won't work if you turn it on after a week instead of right after the Wasteland War?

[river cape]

I am able to use that training this time for the first time. I lost about 1/3 my troops. Unfortunately most of them were lost in a turret, so don’t qualify for the boost (that rule is rather stupid if you ask me. It’s still part of the hub, so why can only those actually IN the hub get that portion of the boost?). Anyway, I’m still able to train over 2 mil troops.
Also, why did the majority of my troops not return after Wasteland ended this morning? Some I can understand because they were in state losses, but the majority were SVS.

[river cape]

That particular boost is intended to aid those who lost troops in Wasteland and Valiant. If you take a look, or ask others, you will notice that if you did not lose troops fighting in the hub or in another state, you don’t get the boost at all. It still shows up, but you will be able to train exactly 0/0 troops.

[severe obsidian]

that is, if you enable acceleration tomorrow, it will not work?

[river cape]

I’m not sure, as our governor or aide employs it immediately after Wasteland or Valiant ends. @wintry pecan ?

[severe obsidian]

we had a dispute with another player. he said to turn on acceleration in a week, and I said that it would not work in a week and should be turned on now. Am I right in this?

[wintry pecan]

So, I understand from players more experienced than I (a recent understanding, mind you) that the "turret casualties" exclusion applies to casualties caused when the turret itself attacks you in the hub.

[wintry pecan]

Troops are not returned after Wasteland. All participants can lose up to 30% or 70% (I get the numbers switched around) of their troops in battle. This is dead dead. The only event where this is so.

[river cape]

Huh. Interesting. So it’s I. Our best interest to make sure those turrets remain in state!

[severe obsidian]

I know that. I'm interested in another moment. So I killed 10m of power, but if you turn on 300% after a week, then this acceleration will not work. I wonder why))

[river cape]

Ohhhhhhh, why is that, I wonder? You would think that this,of all other events, would have them all returned.

[wintry pecan]

And, yes, that 300% boost only applies to troops lost while fighting in Wasteland King, not Valiant, as for Valiant Conquests, your troops are returned when it is over.

[river cape]

Lapuua (sorry :(, don’t have cyrrylic keyboard), is asking if there is a time limit to when the training boost has to be turned on. Like almost immediately , or a few days later?
With your replies though, I’m thinking that next week won’t bring back anything lost in Valiant since Valiant returns them at the end.
And with my reply that it is intended to aid those who lost troops, I would say that turning it on a week from now would not be beneficial since most of those lost troops would already be replaced using the standard accelerator and speed ups. Therefore, it won’t work next week, at all, because the losses for this weekend will have already been made up.

[severe obsidian]

Yes))

if you turn on acceleration after a week, then it will don’t work and why

[wintry pecan]

You can turn on the boosts at any point in the two weeks of Peace. But there is a broader question of how the "loss" number during svs is calculated and "remembered". But the short answer is yes, none of the boosts have a time limit within which they must be used outside of the duration of the governorship.

[fallen steeple]

Thanks.

[white totem]

I am definitely looking forward to the boost! Our wasteland was a 16hr struggle - we won in the end but I lost nearly 40mil in might and I pour a drink for my lost homies - you were good troops and fought well. And thank goodness for deep healing!! we kind of want to get rid of our alliance infirm as we all had 65k troops sitting in there with no alliance coins to save them haha

[wintry pecan]

Making the decision to take a whole other state is not one that should be taken lightly. You have to want it bad enough to be willing to fight for it and maybe lose something too. So, unlike Valiant and Nuka and Reservoir Wars, the stakes are much higher and last much longer (2 weeks as opposed to 1 hour). That's my thinking on it anyway.

[wintry pecan]

Considering what I said before, though, you might be right about the boost being less effective next week because of building the troops back up in the interim. That is the big question that I am trying to get answered. The question that I was answering for you was only whether or not the option would be there after a week, and it will. What I don't know is if it will be very effective... Which was your debate to begin with, I know.

[severe obsidian]

we once tried to turn on the boost two days after the wasteland and it didn't work😂

[wintry pecan]

Like, you could not even turn it on at all? Huh. It doesn’t say anything about being time limited in the game, so this is surprising, but I don’t have a ton of experience with it. Thank you for getting back to me about it. I am going to keep probing to see what I can find out!

[river cape]

Maybe, but why should they penalize those who don’t leave the state by making us totally lose troops when all we did was defend what is ours?

[wintry pecan]

We’ll, you could look at it as a penalty or you could look at it as the rest of the events are all just practice for Wasteland. You get to attack others, get rewards and learn how your army works, then get your troops back at the end. Maybe look at it like, in this war game, the State is what REALLY matters and if you are gonna defend it, you gotta mean it, and if you don’t defend because you don’t want to lose troops (not you ‘you’, the general ‘you’), then you lose. Honestly, I am making up a story here, but it’s how I think about it. So, less of a penalty during Wasteland and more of a free pass the rest of the time.

[river cape]

Could look at it that way, I suppose. And, honestly? When I went in to take that turret back yesterday, I wasn’t thinking about how many troops I was going to lose, I was thinking about keeping them from getting it. They attacked me right after, and I lost, but troops was the last thing I was thinking about.

[white totem]

Troops are made to die. It's a war game.

[quartz flame]

I make troops to kill.

[river cape]

I realize that, lol. This is the first time I’ve actually lost an appreciable number of troops, therefore the first time I’ve been able to use the boost or realize they die, die instead of being resuscitated at the end.

[white totem]

Indeed and they also die.... LoL

[white totem]

I make troops to defend my sweet santuary🤪

[river cape]

I have those, but most are for defending the state. If there is no state, there is no I have a plan, lol. Or Plan too, for that matter.

[white totem]

needs to rename my troop set to cannon fodder and T1 ninja squad

[white totem]

Defend state... Always when needed.... Because my troops only T9😂

[river cape]

Lmao!

[river cape]

I’m only T9 as well, but it isn’t just the troop numbers and stuff, it’s how you use them!
Sending them needlessly against a full t10 troop with nano weapons and a couple of red stars will only land you in the I infirmary. Sending them against a t10 who forgot to send the complimenting heroes on the other hand…

[white totem]

can anyone explains what happen to a state that lost in wk ? where do those taxes come from?

[flint ravine]

the taxes are collected regardless of if you are occupied or not. they are the rss that are taxed when transporting and attacking (attacking has an unseen 30% tax). normally this tax goes nowhere just the 'void' but if you are occupied it goes to the occupying state

so you dont actually get taxed any more for being occupied. the big negative is no titles and no boosts

[white totem]

so if no one attacking each other nor doing any transport, no rss for the occupying state then?

[flint ravine]

correct. if no one did any transports ever or any attacks at all for 24 hours then the occupying state wouldnt get taxes that day (they get them every day)

[white totem]

cool. thank you daddy bill.

[wintry pecan]

Thanks, Daddy. On the ball as usual. ;-)

[white totem]

Will try to do like your suggest.... Thank you buddy

[blissful coyote]

😍😍

[river cape]

You’re welcome.

[gloomy jolt]

Does anyone know how long fast comeback lasts after it is activated?

[sharp coyote]

3 days

[toxic spoke]

Asking a ?? What happens when they put a state 31 against a state 210 whose newer. You can’t fight T11 with T9s no matter what research and gear you have.

[summer quartz]

Sadly this can happen...so just recall and dont waste ur troops against T11

[toxic spoke]

It’s why we’ve lost our hub 2x in a row now.

[summer quartz]

Did u captured 2 hubs at the same time during a wastelandWar before?

[toxic spoke]

No

[summer quartz]

oh ok thats weird...they should have maybe the same rank like ur state for wastelandwar

[toxic spoke]

After holding it (our hub) for 7 hours an old state came in and took it. This has happened 2x now. We have people quitting because of it

[summer quartz]

Unlucky i cant explain the details of the matchmaking, because i dont know them exactly too...i just know the support told us they are trying to fix the matchmaking

[toxic spoke]

We have 2 HQ that are 35. Just new 35. We can’t compete with a state that has 10 -35 HQ

Yeah same thing we were told the first time. Didn’t get any better lol

[summer quartz]

ye...im sorry

[toxic spoke]

I appreciate your time

[summer quartz]

i hope they will fix it soon

[toxic spoke]

Me too. Our biggest player (35) hasn’t been back online since we lost it this weekend

[keen nexus]

210 doesn’t show as having lost their hub.

[sharp coyote]

Guess they are talking about 214.

[keen nexus]

214 has their own hub as well @sharp coyote

I was checking if LilTees server had captured other hubs before. That’s usually the reason a state in the 200s would match against such a low number

[sharp coyote]

Oh true, 214 was occupied last WK. My bad

S204 then maybe? And they did occupy two states in the past, but not at the same time. And got paired with S31 last WK and S57 this time. So I feel very bad for them

[keen nexus]

Yea 57 is a tough one.

But that’s the risk when began taking other hubs. Also makes it hard to complain when your hub is taken cause you have done it to others.

[sharp coyote]

In that case prepare for a hard matchup in the next wasteland King yourself 🤪

[keen nexus]

Oh we are, we began taking hubs again to get harder match ups.

[sharp coyote]

Just saying, you took more hubs than 204 did and are an older state than they are, so you should get at least S57, if not S22, S19, S75 or S49

[keen nexus]

We are at 3 now. We have been matched with 14 and 32 when we had taken 2. Initially we were surprised as we thought the matchups happen within a battle group but then realized it more likely based on wasteland leaderboard.

49, 60, and 75 would be a challenge. I think we would hold our own against everyone else.

[sharp coyote]

You would hold against 19?

[keen nexus]

Yea I think so. They lost to 49 last week

[paper ice]

You know that S19 have Kaio and Tito in the state and S49 has some more good HQ35? I hope you get S19 as opponent and would be excited what happens ^^

[keen nexus]

It would be exciting, I’m sure it will happen eventually

What happened last wasteland? Were people on vacation? I was surprised to see 49 win

[paper ice]

You have seen which players are in S49? If yes your question is irritating..