👑wasteland-king

[cobalt arch]

Ok will do

[wanton shoal]

Does anybody count, how many of total point on max occupancy?

[atomic mural]

Enough for 2nd reward or close to it

[tame rune]

Kill count and fast comeback boost

[frigid arrow]

😂

[wary bear]

hihi. Pardon me for absolutely nooob question... Can troops in resource tile in the Wasteland area during Wasteland King be killed ?? Troops in resource tile can't be doomed in permanent death usually, right???

[lapis condor]

No. Troops on resource tiles no matter what event is or is not going on will not die. They will be wounded and go to your infirmary

[rigid fulcrum]

As long as you have capacity for all the wounded

[frosty wing]

There are more rewards if you click on the leaderboard trophy

[stuck tartan]

Can an unshielded foreign commander on the wasteland retaliate from an attack against a commander positioned outside the wasteland?

[grave dagger]

If you are parked outside you can’t be touched

[elder sequoia]

Anybody have a table of points for each way to earn event points? e.g. 100 event pts for 10k death points, 150 event points for 20k death points, and so on. Since my state leaders don’t share hub & turret occupancy, trying to determine how many troops I need to send to slaughter to get Nataly frags

[forest comet]

Hey, how long after securing hub do you have to assign governor? And how is assigned if no one does it?

[shy nimbus]

You beat me! Lol

[lapis cosmos]

2 hours and goes to r5 if not assigned if I remember correctly

[livid gazelle]

2 hrs and it auto goes to head of occupying alliance if no one is assigned

Lol

My discord just updated

[lapis cosmos]

Wait did I get it right😳😂

[livid gazelle]

You did

[forest comet]

Perfect! Governor elect fell asleep!

[livid gazelle]

Lol

They'll wake up governor

[forest comet]

Yup 😂

[frigid arrow]

Thank you

[fresh prairie]

We can get a new frame?! And I’m just seeing this lol

[frosty wing]

Yeah new frame with riders stats

[fresh prairie]

Even better. Maybe next wk I’ll go for it

[boreal hearth]

Anyone know what factors into matchmaking for WK?

[fresh prairie]

Trophies

[boreal hearth]

Thats it?

[fresh prairie]

Yeah.

[pale shore]

What kind of B.S. is this?

All frames are only rider based?

[fresh prairie]

Used to be all fighter based.

[lapis cosmos]

Interesting

I think I like the new wasteland system alot I maxed all rewards for the first time in awhile

[fresh prairie]

Didn’t take much

[lapis cosmos]

It really didn't and I was glad. I only lost 2m in troop might from all the rewards.

[alpine granite]

Hi, everyone. In case our state is colonized, is the 300% comeback boost still applied?

[lapis cosmos]

If your hub is taken it'll pop on at the end of wasteland

[alpine granite]

Thank you 🥰

[dusty grove]

so just to be clear, and no rules changed in the patch, occupiers still cant raid the states they occupied outside of valiant right

[lapis cosmos]

Correct

[fresh prairie]

All that changed was the format of points basically

[white totem]

Hello

[fading prairie]

I’m afraid to ask… what are players thoughts on the new WK point system? 👀

[fresh prairie]

I love it

Easier

[grave dagger]

I didn’t mind it

[dry obsidian]

Not a fan. However I have another question, if no one occupies for 8 hours straight, does it go by longest TOTAL occupation or longest consecutive occupation?

[fading prairie]

Longest total.

[dry obsidian]

Thanks!

38 minutes to go.

[thorn delta]

This is our state, and the two alliances attacking us

Can you say major mismatch… 😂

[dry obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/avatar-the-last-airbender-zuko-thats-rough-buddy-thats-rough-gif-4264932

[full parrot]

If I jumped to another state to battle and accidentally quit my alliance before going back to my state...am I stuck in the state?

[fresh prairie]

No. Look for someone else who jumped state. And join their alliance. Then you will be able to move back

[full parrot]

Worked! You're a genius. Thanks!

[stiff kite]

Like it as well

[wary bear]

@rigid fulcrum @lapis condor thanks. So there's no sense in getting hit the tiles in the mud? No event points granted by death (if overflown the capacity of infirmary) or casualty, and the attacker of the tile doesn't get any points either because no troops are killed, right?

[fresh prairie]

Attacker gets points based off tier type

Why you don’t gather in the mud during wk. you give others points.

But tile kills does not go towards fastcome back

[lapis cosmos]

I love it... great random change 👀

[dusky elm]

I like the changes made to the point system (two systems now unified) that is less confusing to explain to other players in my state, it lessens the burden of managing the defense/hosting guild for occupation points, the rather exclusive rewards (the frames) that used to be for the 'real' global leaderboard are now open to a narrow, battle division leaderboard and Nataly fragments are more achievable now that death points are allowed. It's the good changes I've been waiting for.

Though, it appears that the state ranking needs improvement? For No 71, grade is gold, trophy point is 2,800 - should have been Platinum? Then No 59 and No 60 should've been Platinum and there's blank for No 58.

[dusky elm]

They have always been rider based from what I remember. Gold frame granted by Governor is fighter based, then these rider based frames used to be for Top 50 globally, now changed to your battle division only.

[wary bear]

I don't get it. What do you mean by "fastcome" ?

[fresh prairie]

Fastcome back is the boost you receive after wk to build more troops at 300% added speed.

It only counts to deaths towards turret and hub

[brave pier]

Ohhhh you are against us?

[wary bear]

thanks

[white totem]

So now they ruined wasteland too. You can no longer see in state rank for casualties separately…. That’s how most gov’s choose boxes that I know

[livid gazelle]

We started asking the alliances to offer up choices for boxes. With the Nataly frags people are going to complain no matter what

[quiet estuary]

I still dont understand about WK.

1. so if we lose our hub - we cant use state boost like gathering, training, building, research boost for 2 weeks?

2. I am T8, and my state only allow for T9 and above to hold hub and turret, in our state also in opponent state. Then they lose some troops and might.
   Now they ask for the lower level to pitch in rss for their healing and retraining troops.

Does this common to happen? The high level player got their rewards tho, yet still demand for rss from small player who can't get poin due to the rules created.

[fresh prairie]

#1. True. #2. Selfish lol. But it does happen.

[livid cedar]

FYI if you fly after WK, you can claim the rewards again :D. That was a pleasant surprise lol

[dusky elm]

1. 300% fast comeback boost will be automatically start after WK and that's it. No boxes, titles, bulletins, boosts for 2 weeks.
2. Some states do offer resources for healing, mostly voluntarily contribution as part of defending the states. If it's forced contribution just in the name of WK NAP, it's not a good look on your state and may lose people's interest rather fast. But then, always check if it's required in your state for NAP participation - it may be NAP based on WK participation.
   You can consider other options (negotiation or immigration) if NAP based on WK participation isn't up your alley.

[sudden shore]

Happened to me when i transferred from a platinum state grade to a legend state. ☺️.. got the platinum rewards, then the legend rewards upon landing 🤭

[broken lotus]

Does anyone think PNS over corrected the hub point system? State trophy scores have been shrinking like crazy, and if the current rate continues before long there will not be a diamond bracket. When a state like 164 is in plat, not sure this is working as intended? Lol

[sudden shore]

If i remember correctly, the update last september specifically said something about the new point-system in WK..

[sudden shore]

#🩹patch-notes message

I kinda liked the update as it pushed forever NAP states to take action

[broken lotus]

I'm aware of what the update was, I'm asking if anyone thinks it's going to be a problem that soon the gap between platinum bracket and legend will be non existent

[sudden shore]

Imo, I dont see it as a problem at the moment. I wouldnt worry about facing this and that state, just do your thing and what's best for your state.

[shut blade]

I tried to get you to gather in the mud but alas no luck 😁

[shut blade]

It’s working as they intend it - many states intentionally lose hub and don’t take others to go down in rank

[shut blade]

How can it be non existent if legend assumes there are at least 10 states in diamond?

[fading prairie]

By the end of this WK I didn’t have enough troops to gather with 😭….although I didn’t have much troops to start with.

[atomic mural]

I agree, perma-nap states still won't fight and the useless rewards on offer certainly don't offer the incentive to. You can literally lose thousands of hours worth of rss and speed ups in terms of troops for not not a lot of gain by taking a state. Just nap all the way down to silver. No one cares. Pretty soon most of gold will be silver and platinum will be gold and so on. They've screwed it up.

[livid gazelle]

We've actually been looking at taking States again because of the new rules. I think we don't want to drop from gold if we can avoid it.

[atomic sierra]

Is there hero line up to set in the hub where troop defense the person holding the hub stats apply to every troop type in hub

[livid gazelle]

They should send their best and then super reinforce

Once they use super reinforce their stats will carry over to everyone else

[arctic atlas]

How do you go from gold to platinum when we were already platinum the previous WLK. According to the points system we should have dropped back to gold?

[arctic atlas]

Says we were in gold but went up to platinum last weekend even though we dropped below the threshold

[shut blade]

In the pins check out the tool that helps plan out what tier you end up in based on your states starting # of trophies and what scenario plays out

[atomic sierra]

only if it’s the same troop when you super reinforce right

[livid gazelle]

It's recommended to send the same troop because they're going to get all of your boosts I believe. So if you're strong on one and weak on another it won't be as useful

[atomic sierra]

Thanks

[blazing owl]

If you can be friendly with someone from another state you can both get points on tile hits without killing any troops permanently. You can then use instant heal through the week to lessen the cost of healing. It’s how I typically get any extra points needed after the hubs are secured.
Fast come back doesn’t apply to tile hits though so if you wanted to kill some middle tier troops to get the boost you can always kamikaze them into a tower.

[still cedar]

Coffers: there’s a weighted 10,000,000 limit when you give them out. Is that 10mil limit per day or per person?

[bleak thistle]

Per person per day.

[still cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/relief-phew-gif-22113399

Thank you

[tiny flare]

I am sure this has been asked already but I don't see it pinned. Does anyone have a succinct description of how the matching algorithm works for Wasteland Kings?

[versed hedge]

You get by points in a grade (bronze - legend) and in this group a random generator picks up the opponents

[tiny flare]

Is it just me, but it doesn't seem random at all. lol

[fresh prairie]

It’s who ever is close in points

[tiny flare]

So the number of players and the number of HQs don't come into play at all? just random based on grade? So Gold is a range so we can get anyone that is in that range of gold or our same exact points?

[fresh prairie]

Yeah. All based on trophy’s and grade. Hqs have no affect on anything.

[tiny flare]

I am so over time differences. Can anyone confirm the UTC time Wasteland Kings starts this weekend please?

[quartz flame]

The countdown is in your time. Otherwise 10am UTC/6am eastern/3am pacific.

[opaque pollen]

Isn’t it 10am in UTC?

[quartz flame]

Yes, brain farting talking about daylight saving switches all morning

[tiny flare]

https://tenor.com/view/explode-explosion-boom-gif-12588322

[spiral sleet]

Regarding the new patch note:
It doesn’t affect wk, does it? If I move to another state and want to help with wk, I will can?

[quartz flame]

There isnt anything to stop you from playing WK

[young ridge]

If the hub is shielded, can you still get occupational points from the turrets? We are arguing. Thank you.

[fresh prairie]

Yes

[young ridge]

[solemn stratus]

I'll be fighting in my first Zenith War.
Are there any guides for strategy? Beyond just the basic "take the turrets and take the hub?" We'll be t8/t9 going up against the only t10s in the state so I feel like some semblance of strategy or understanding is needed.

[fresh prairie]

Strong t9s can destroy t10

Don’t solo hit. Do rallies

[solemn stratus]

Would it be worth it to super rally the turrets and hub? Does super rally carry over to super reinforce if you occupy it?
And for a super rally, only the leader needs to send heroes, correct? Because the hero and boost stats apply to everyone in the rally?

There's going to be 3-4 t10 players, one of them has about triple the next highest might (whale). None of us will be up to t10 by then.

[fresh prairie]

Just remember. They can only hold 2 tower each.

I don’t know about super rally like that

[solemn stratus]

What do you mean they can only hold two towers each?

[fresh prairie]

I mean 1 tower. Lol.

[solemn stratus]

Oh? So each person can hold a turret assuming there's 4 t10 folks. Does that mean they'll need 5 t10 folks if they want to hold the hub as well? Can they send reinforcing troops to other the other buildings?

[fresh prairie]

No. Each individual can only send troops to 1 building.

So, if you take all the towers. You will slowly kill all the troops in the hub. Fastcome back does not apply to turret fire on the hub

[solemn stratus]

Oh, okay. That's a little more comforting.

[fresh prairie]

So if they decide to split into towers and hub. Keep sending big t9 strong rallies to the hub.

Also send counter troop rallies.

So if riders occupy the hub. Send shooters

[solemn stratus]

Mmkay.
And how can people not in the "main" alliance help on both sides? Obviously they can't hold or reinforce turrets once the hub is occupied, so are they roaming around attacking sanctuaries of the opposing sides or what?

[fresh prairie]

If the main alliance has only the hub. And other alliances take towers. Towers will still hit hub.

[solemn stratus]

So I guess they can still try to clear out the turrets for the main alliance to occupy (is that a thing folks do?). But when they're not doing that, what can they do?

[livid gazelle]

Super rally does carry over and only the lead needs to send heroes. You can only send troops to one rally at a time so make sure your strongest are starting the rallies.

[ember fulcrum]

Who can change captains in hub and turrets? Just R5? Militarist? Overseer? Captain of turret?

[solemn stratus]

I was reading up in the channel and it said only the captain can do that.

[solemn stratus]

Thank you.

[fathom vale]

Quick question:

Let's say I am in state 100 and I plan to conquer state 200.
We capture S200 hub and towers and S100's hub becomes shielded.
Do we also need to hold the towers in S100?
If we do not, does the shield prevent any attack, including from S100 towers held by S200 folks?

Thank you

[fathom vale]

Anyone in the hub can spend 2000 diamonds and become captain. The captain can also freely pass captain to another commander in the hub already.

The same is true for turrets.

[velvet wharf]

Question- Can the r5 from the winning hub pick a governor that is not in there alliance or do they have to be in the same alliance? If they have to be in alliance is it the whole time or just before event ends? Any help with this would be appreciated thanks

[fresh prairie]

The R5 can only appoint someone that’s currently in the alliance. They don’t need to be in the whole time

[velvet wharf]

Okay so if they join in the last 10 minutes they can be appointed tysm for the help

[fresh prairie]

Yeah

[high dragon]

The shield prevent attacks other than turrets firing at the hub. So you may put a few t1 in s100 hub and the full forces in s200. Regularly refill s100 hub with t1 since they will get kill by turret firing. Since turrets attacks are permanent loss so you can just let each player do 100 t1 and since now occupation point is solely by the minute, t1 do just fine. However if you lose s200 hub, you risk losing your hub in S100.

[solemn stratus]

You lose your sanctuary shield when rallying on a turret and hub, correct? What about when reinforcing?

[fresh prairie]

Yes

[solemn stratus]

Mmkay.

[solemn stratus]

Mind if I PM you in regards to this?

[fresh prairie]

Sure

[river haven]

Correct. R5 militarist overseer captain. However they have to be in same state. So if your state occupies another state hub, in order to change captains in that other state, their sanctuary also needs to be in that state.

[shadow moat]

Who gets credit if an alliance takes another state who get the credit? The alliance or the state that alliance is in?

[weary loom]

State

[shadow moat]

Thank you!

[elfin charm]

Qns:

1. Do turrets/hub need to have 1 troop type?

2. If turret captain is a rider, will super reinforcement be +200% ATK for rider only or for any type of troop in the turret?

3. If it's a mixed turret, will it cause more wounded?

[hallow crown]

1. No, can be a mix, usually depends if the captain is using super rein and their stats on all types

2. Super rein makes the captain stats overrule anyone else's, so if captain is solely rider focused sending anything else may be a liability, as they'll be much weaker

3. Again, depends on captain and the use of super rein or not

[violet lark]

During the wasteland king, if enemy santuary attack our santuary in the mud. Do our troop get permanently killed or go to the state enfermery?

[fresh prairie]

Permanent

And fastcome back does not count towards it

[violet lark]

And can resources being stolen from the santuary?

[fresh prairie]

There is not state hospital for Wk

And yes you lose rss

[violet lark]

Thanks a lot kagumi

[fresh prairie]

You’re welcomezzzz

[spring geode]

Did anyone ever put together a list of the new point distribution? I should have remembered to keep track before I claimed anything..

[versed hedge]

Something like that @spring geode ?

[fresh prairie]

😍

[spring geode]

I mean the specific point rewards, like:
Occupy 1 minute = 100 points
Occupy (3 minutes?) = ???

[versed hedge]

Uhm, i think till now no one made it in here... im sorry... i know for occupation is 120 mins the max and for that it gives 300 points then... so it increases from 100 - max 300

I will make it next svs, this time im not participating because i stuck in a showdown quest 🥲

[spring geode]

I started keeping track late but I recorded these:

Killing enemy units:

150k = +150

1.5m = +250
3m = +300
6m = +350

Losing units in hub:

10k = +100

40k = +200
100k = +250

Occupy:

1 minute = +100

45 minutes = +250
60 minutes = +250
90 minutes = +300
120 minutes = +300

[versed hedge]

10 minutes = 150 as i remember right

[errant stream]

If the hub is taken over and state lost, does the state lose the ability to use Fast Comeback?

[spring geode]

I think it's automatic in that case

I want to say exactly 24 hours after the war starts?

[versed hedge]

Fast comeback will be automatic yes, but all other boosts and titles and boxes will not work till next time you have your hub back

[versed hedge]

When im done with showdown before my state is done with wasteland i will track it a bit to fill up your tracking 😊

Oh wrong sentence i answered to... but right person.... lol sorry

[worn barn]

Thank you for info

[errant stream]

Thank you!

[versed hedge]

If anyone has some more tracking for @spring geode to this please post it in here so he can finish his tracking and i will pin it then in here 😊

[worn barn]

There's also Occupy 120 minutes = 300 points

[spring geode]

I added the first amounts since those were in the screenshot

[worn barn]

I have the killing enemy units reach 90 million +300

[spring geode]

Hm...I found some older screenshots on this channel that had different numbers. Either there were changes or it's possible that the points vary by state age or state grade?

[spring geode]

Actually, this is a good example. I have 6 million for +350...I doubt 90 million goes down in points?

Occupy time seems consistent though

[violet lark]

Hello, we are new in the game how can we obtain Deep Healing Center potions?

[worn barn]

True. Why does it go down tho

[spring geode]

What's your state's grade? Mine is gold

This is what I see right now

[worn barn]

I wish we are in gold.

We are in Legendary 😕

[spring geode]

So it's better rewards, but harder to get them..

[versed hedge]

That makes the tracking more complicated 🥲😆

[spring geode]

Well, it's possible it's a fixed multiplier or something

My 3m was +300 and their 90m was +300...so maybe gold x30 could be legendary

It looks like the points per tier are the same at least

Well, if everyone posts their amounts and grade I can try to see if there's anything like that happening

[worn barn]

I have kill over 150mil and its still +300. I guess it stops there

[river cape]

Time and dailies. You get them from dailies only if you have wounded in deep healing, same for time. In other words, we can’t stockpile them for later use.

[spring geode]

Maybe the tiers aren't the same then. These are mine so far for kill points:

1.5m = 250
3m = 300
6m = 350
12m = 400
18m = 450

[violet lark]

But i did my daily mission before the deep healing was needed it. Do i need to wait for tomorrow?

[spring geode]

Might have needed to wait for reset anyway. At least that's how cube boxes worked after unlocking them.

[spring geode]

There was a point where it went down for me..

[cosmic parcel]

does anyone know - If our hub is being occupied by another state and we take a state's hub, will the shield protect the other state that's in our hub or will it kick them out?

[worn barn]

Forgive my English, if state A, took state B, state A Hub will shield.
Then, if state B or state C took state B, state A will lose shield.

[river cape]

Yes, but keep checking. There should be some there now. In average it takes about two weeks to get then all back. It’s a pain!

[atomic mural]

8 hours is so darn long. Maybe if the required occupation was shorter it would be better

[cosmic parcel]

Thanks!

[fresh prairie]

Took me almost 2 months to heal 400k in deep 😂😂😂😭😭😭

[green snow]

How much of our hub's bubble if we hit another hub?

[river cape]

Hit another hub? Or take another hub?
Hitting does not give a bubble, only occupying another hub does. And you only get the bubble as long as you occupy that other hub.
Hub only, if you mean occupying. Turrets are still open to take. Turret fire on the hub still works through the shield and does NOT count toward fast comeback.
@fresh prairie OUCH!

[green snow]

We occupied another hub

Thank you 🙏

[river cape]

Ok 🙂

[solemn stratus]

@fresh prairie if you care, we ended up fighting. Their big whale was supposed to be busy at work and one of their allies joined our side because they didn't like how they were handing the whole situation. So we had a t10 player on our side, leaving it 1 t10 on each side.
We were doing well. Took two turrets, on our way to a third, and we had the hub for about an hour. Their one t10 hit my sanctuary twice and lost both times. I was pretty surprised.
But about two hours in their whale showed up and did exactly what we expected him to do. Teleport to sanctuaries and knock them out, send endless rallies to turrets to take them out, etc. Couldn't do anything about it.
But at least the governing alliance seems to have changed their tune. Either because they realized they're not as strong as they thing they are without the whale, or realized how many people opposed the way they were running things. But either way it looks like we got our goal. Or at least will be able to negotiate for it.

[fresh prairie]

Yeah. Hitting sanctuary sucks

[green snow]

Sorry, I have another question that if we open above one but there are someone still to attack another state

Could they get this?

[fresh prairie]

Yeah. As long as it’s attacks on hub and turret

[green snow]

Thank you

🙏

[sullen lark]

Does anyone happen to know what the count of Governor reward boxes are, at silver level?

[river haven]

You can see all that info at the hub

[sullen lark]

I know, I was hoping to get a jump on the rewards before the shield came down. We just finished 20 minutes ago...

[river haven]

Ok 👍🏻

I think counts the same on all. Just content changes….

But idk if I’ve ever been silver so not positive

[fresh prairie]

I don’t know what silver is like either. Lol. Just check your hub

[bleak thistle]

If fast comeback is activated while another state still has hub not secure will the people that add new losses in battles there get that added to fast comeback? (I am pretty sure it is still added but wanna be sure before I activate)

[river haven]

😅 lol you guys kicked our ass this week

[atomic mural]

All these are wrong 😂 you've used starter as bronze and it's messed the sequence up.

[fresh prairie]

Yes. Fastcome back still applies to troops lost to turret and hub attacks. Even after it’s been applied. Still adds up

[fresh prairie]

I thought the question was how many boxes of each lol

[atomic mural]

It was 😂 don't get to see until end of event. Think they're all the same tho. We took a state so double boxes this week.

[willow flicker]

Hello
I have a question
Who is the gouverner when we lost our hub with an other state ?

[river haven]

No one

[willow flicker]

Okay no title, bonus and box
It's that ?

[brave pier]

👀 We did? 311 or 381?

[river haven]

Highest might controls the entry level to the state if it’s adjustable still but there is no gov. No boxes. No boosts. Except comeback

[river haven]

Ironically both 😂

But 381

[willow flicker]

Okay thanks for your answer

[brave pier]

Lol.. XD yes we had lots of fun..and lots of kills to. Will need more than 1 week to recover. XD

[river haven]

🤣 I bet. Not me lol. We jumped 40 levels in one wlk. I know death when I see it so I supervised 😋

[brave pier]

😂😂...lets see what next week will bring.. XD please restock....😂

[river haven]

😂 I can personally guarantee u 20 mil kills alone from my two that fight there lol. I don’t stop til I’m zero. You just gotta catch me. Valiants my fave ❤️

[echo swift]

Does the governor title automatically go to the leader who hold the hub the longest?

[fresh prairie]

No. They can appoint anyone in the alliance. However. After 2 hours they get it

[echo swift]

Thank you!

[fickle pine]

Advice from states that do mud sitting still, how to get people to follow the grid map? 🤦‍♀️ they seem to find it so difficult to plug in coords and drop or clear the way first before finding a spot. Makes me want to tear my hair trying to direct them😂

[fresh prairie]

Tell them not to bubble. This will fix it

[river haven]

Winner for best response ever 🙌

[river haven]

If you click a square on map it becomes bottom left corner of hq when posting coords. So when u send coordinates send the ones for where u want their bottom left corner

[fickle pine]

Ahh ok, didn't know that thanks

[icy gulch]

what are the rewards for the kill points for defenders?

in Zenith war?

[river haven]

This was mine… idk if zenith is different

Oh wait rewards…. Idk lol

Sorry half asleep

[lyric warren]

For states that have WK participation NAP, do you

1. Cap the number of alliances that can be included (for example, in a point system some alliances with higher than the minimum point requirement may not earn NAP because they aren't the top N in points)?

2. Requires a minimum number of defenders (i.e., an alliance can not earn NAP by only mud sitting or camping)?

If you do, can you post how your system works and if it works well for smaller alliances with ftp players (or farm alliances that typically don't have high tier troops)?

[river cape]

S187 used to do the point system, but it was always the same alliances, so we switched top 9.
There was a range of points for things like signing up for sitting in the mud, signing up for WK, sending out camps, actually participating in Wk didn’t earn points though.
It worked really well for smaller alliances. I was a Member of a smaller alliance then, and we had about ten active members; we always got NAP. New alliances also have a chance to earn their way to NAP a lot easier.
Camping and babysitting the wasteland work really well for f2p and farm alliances as they require zero cash input, just a 24 hour shield bought with diamonds from rewards or gifts, and maybe a top up with an 8 hour gotten as a gift or from mystery shop.
For camping we send one t1, so higher tiers don’t matter.
We didn’t cap the number of participating alliances, we didn’t have to

It capped itself a few months in.

For camping we send one t1, so tier doesn’t matter either.

[lyric warren]

We have a point system awarding points for camping, mud sitting and defending. What happens is that alliances with qualified defenders would often choose to not send defenders and get NAP by mud sitting or camping. This leads to a lot of grumbling about it being not fair.

[fresh prairie]

Also tell them to not bubble

[lyric warren]

How many camps do they have to set to get NAP? Maybe our threshold is too low. We currently have it at 30.

[river cape]

Depends on how many marches you have. We did it by the individual, who earned points by for the alliance.
5 marches would be 3 camps, 4 would be two, 3 would be 1.
If you have an alliance that is very small, about 45 people, with more than half who are inactive, but they keep them for the numbers, and of those left only 6-10 are active daily, there’s no way they could send 30 camps.
How old is your state? A lot of states find there comes a point where people are sick of giving up their Saturdays for more of the same thing every two weeks, so they decide to sit out a few and reconnect with life. Then that few turns into a few more, and a few more, etc. Even with the changes that were made to WK, more than a few are finding that it isn’t worth it to go and get your troops killed for not much reward.
I suggest talking to council about ways to make it fun and interesting again, and motivate people to give up their Saturdays again.

[livid gazelle]

This is the problem I've been having. I enjoy fighting but not when it's hard to find others willing to fight.

[river cape]

A lot of people are finding this. I like to fight too, but the cost, for me, is a no go, and I have real life stuff that has to come first.
I think PnS has hit the wall. They either need to get innovative with some new events, instead of recycling old ones, or they need to lower prices to Bring
in new blood and keep tried and true players.
Frankly, I’m sick of giving up a whole Saturday and part of Sunday and paying more than I can afford to recoup my troop losses. Even with fast comeback, state boost, cost reduction talent, and personal training boost, it’s bloody expensive!

[fresh prairie]

Only lose what you can afford to make back.

There is still thousands and thousands that love wk. they haven’t hit a wall. I had so many alliance gifts this pst weekend I couldn’t even keep up

[river cape]

I’ve solved my issue, at least temporarily. I just don’t participate. Usually avoid the game, especially the last two hours. State whatever has held their hub for six consecutive hours was annoying in the beginning, now it just pisses me off.

[green snow]

Hi, could anyone tell me this one help for which one?

[fresh prairie]

This is for the governor. They get diamonds daily for being the governor

[green snow]

It means if we are the governer, we will get diamonds 200 pcs for 3 days?

[fresh prairie]

You will get 200 x 3 for 14 days

[green snow]

😳

Nice👍

[green snow]

Thank you a lot for your answering, we never used it before

😂

[fresh prairie]

Lol

[sage spear]

I don’t think you meant to post this here

[storm kite]

Quick question. I know some states have a point system for participation for WLK. Can I get a little more info on that?

[livid gazelle]

You would probably have to find out from the states themselves. That is a out of game decision made by the groups running those states.

However you might get lucky in someone might actually pipe up about how they do it

[bleak thistle]

Can only say how s208 does it. We have unlimited NAP spaces. Nap is decided based on wk participation. Big alliances need to send a minimum amount of active participants. For smaller still growing alliances (less than 3 hq30+) we allow minimal 3 participants and the rest of points can be earned by placing hq around the towers in mud. It’s a system that works for our state but the options are unlimited and think should be made taking how your state is populated into account and also what is desired. Some states choose the limit the amount of NAP spots grandest, for us that’s not a good option because we actually wanna stimulate the smaller alliances to have an active role too.

[livid gazelle]

We have full NAP of tagged bases so for mud farming rights alliances need to provide a minimum of 10 volunteers for Wasteland

[tall valve]

Question:
Is everyone still sending the same troop type as the captains in the towers to get their boosts? Or has there been any changes to that with the recent updates?

[lapis cosmos]

Every time I participate in wasteland I never send same as captain just my main march. This will solely be based of your states preference

[tall valve]

There has been a lot of debate as to what boosts the reinforcing commanders get.
The common opinion is that they only get the boosts to the same troop type as the Captains.
I feel this may have been the case in the past, perhaps, in the first year of release, but I do not feel that is the case anymore.

What would be logical would be that you get whatever troop boosts the captain has activated. (Troop atk, def, super Reinforce, etc) Not, his troop type buff or only to those who are the same as his march as the march can consist of more than one troop type.

Nobody has been able to produce empirical data to support their claim but they are willing to die on that hill. Hoping someone could shed some actual light on the matter. Thank you.

[gentle narwhal]

Our state has statewide NAP for any alliance who helps with wasteland either by fighting or placing camps in all open spaces around wasteland. We dont put them on the mud though. There's a shell alliance that we join if we are fighting. Unfortunately the shell is run by one person as r5 and so we seem to get the same governor too often.

[unkempt ibex]

You only receive all of the captains troop boosts when sitting under them - regardless of troop types etc - if the captain superreinforces the turret

Whenever I have sent shooters to a building in any event and a rider or fighter base is the one who superreinforces, my shooters get nerfed hard

[atomic mural]

Yep, of yours 4k shooters and the turret lead is riders or fighters with 2k shooters it's the 2k applied

[blazing temple]

Aloha and good morning everyone.

[livid gazelle]

Which is why you usually want to match the lead if they're super reinforcing.

[atomic mural]

Or have someone both strong and balanced leading

[livid gazelle]

I've noticed lately that a lot of people are very focused on one. I'm mostly rider, but my fighters and shooters are okay.

[atomic mural]

Agreed, I've seen 35s and 36s with 5 star chips and modules on their non focus.

[tall valve]

Thank you all. I am trying to convince the stronger alliances that it would be wise to post a balanced captain in each tower so it would not matter who went where or what their boost amounts were. It would open up a lot more troops to be a fighting force rather than the heavy restrictions of t10+ only and they have to be a certain type when there are hundreds of millions of t8 an t9s.

This is coming from the same commanders that use the t1 taxi meat shield tactic and then say t8 s are too weak? I guess I am missing something…

Especially when they use super reinforce and everyone’s boosts are 1000%+
I think it is a waste of combat ability and a tactical oversight. Hell, the captains don’t event need to send a full march of their top troops. All that is needed are their boosts and rally size. Lol
Save the big troops for the decisive fights. It is like sending all your special forces to storm the beaches of Normandy 😂😂

[livid gazelle]

We use t9 and higher. Mostly because we used to have to, but once we know there's not going to be too much fighting we let everyone into the turrets.

[tall valve]

I could see that in an older state for sure. Our strongest commanders are hell bent on restricting our states fighting capacity and then complain that they do all the heavy lifting. 🤔

I try to encourage letting the major forces we have available to do the brunt of the fighting and use their boost rates paired with overwhelming numbers instead of trying to overpower every single march. It’s too costly.

Half the time, when we come under attack, we just simply run out of qualified troops then there are no more to take anything back. The elite troops need to be preserved as much as as efficiently as possible is my opinion. T8s can be replenished extremely quick.

All good in theory of course. Probably won’t ever get a chance to put it to the test….unless I challenge someone to try to take our fort and use that strategy. If it works, they might listen.

[white hazel]

Having balanced captains would render all of your captains incredibly vulnerable. It is much more cost effective to specialize in a single troop type. I'm not saying that your off troops should not receive some investment, but beyond a certain point I'm not investing in them when I can increase the strength of the troop I am specializing in. I would much rather have someone captain a building that has 4000 Fighter ATK/HP/DEF and 2000 for Shooter and Rider than someone with say 2600 Fighter 2800 Shooter and 2600 Rider. Your opponent that is trying to take that building will most likely be specialized and just flat out do more damage to you. The T1 meatshield is for defending your own HQ to minimalize casualties of your higher troop tiers. You wouldn't want lower tier troops in your buildings unless you are sure that you will not be attacked.

[tall valve]

Ah, this is interesting because I am now getting contradictory information about the taxi shield.

1. Your argument says that 4000% boost in a single troop type is ideal vs other specialized marches. However, it does not take into account counter troop types whatsoever. Let’s say, you have 4000% fighters facing a march of 4000% riders, who would sustain greater casualties? Your fighters. Maybe even close to 35% of them.
   Now let’s say your captain is balanced and, more accurately, it is closer to 3000% fighters, 3200% shooter, 3100% riders.
   You will likely be assaulted by many different troop types, therefore, when you are hit by 4000% fighter march, the tower casualties will go from fighter to shooter to rider.

Let’s say you lose 10% of your fighters to the fighter march in the tower, 15% to shooters, and maybe 5% to riders. (Round numbers here)

Then the next march is a shooter march,
The casualty priority will eventually hit the counter troop type reducing casualties and increasing kills. By how much is debatable of course.

To specialize towers, you are asking for smarter enemies to target you with the specialized counter troop type and that can absolutely tip the scale to even even if boosts are greater in the tower. You can see evidence of this in the arena where I have, personally been defeated by the counter troop type even though I outnumbered them AND out boosted. Rock Paper Scissors my friend.
Even if you out boost them, I would argue you will face far more casualties in the end than if you were balanced.

And the contradiction I am seeing here is that there are already states that fill with t1 taxis. However you do not get points and it is extremely boring..

The logic as you say it, that it is strong enough to protect your sanctuary but not a tower raises a few questions unless you could produce empirical data to show this is the case. Because right now, I have seen other states already do this with success.

And by using lower tier troops in towers with super reinforce, you are weakening your enemy, utilizing more available forces in state, preserving your elite forces, and allowing the burden of war to be spread equally among everyone.

This translates into being able to fight at a higher capacity for longer, reduce recovery time, and cost.

That’s my opinion. However, I cannot seem to get people out of their little boxes to try something new. We can what if all day, but I think it’s a bit more complex than the biggest boost wins the war. Too many variables to calculate so simply.

[atomic mural]

I find the hardest mode to get people out of is double nap. Troop huggers with their fake might don't want to fight because they might lose a few troops.

[white hazel]

Regardless of the stats listed, at a certain point, a specialized opponent can up their stats enough to negate the counter effect damage of the balanced captain.

If you lose troops in a turret or hub but you hold it, you can have people reinforce. It's not just the opponent that gets to continually send marches/rallies at the buildings so I don't really understand the point that you are trying to make there. I'd rather hold against a rally instead of try to scramble to retake. And you will find yourself doing that if you put lower tier troops in the buildings and your opponent chooses to use the strongest tier at their disposal. Super reinforcement applies the captains stats to all troops, but does not upgrade the troop tier. So if you want to stock T1s in a building you can. But just understand that at equal rally sizes and stats, the side that has lower tier troops will most likely lose, and probably lose big. There is a certain point where low tier troops do almost no damage to attackers and pretty much just melt, even with the captains stats applied. Best use of T1s in buildings is if you have a shield on your hub because you have taken another hub, and an enemy is occupying your turrets. You'll only lose T1s instead of higher tier troops.

The point you make about smarter enemies, that will happen regardless of how you stock your buildings. Some states have really great coordination and are set up to be able to win. I'd rather have my strongest options and force them to either have the strong HQ with my counter type, or have to get smart like sending multiple rallies at a time. Having balanced troops in buildings just means they have to have someone strong, regardless of specialization, which will be way more prevalent.

Now T1s as a meatshield work for your HQ because the amount of troops that you can have in your HQ far outnumbers what you can have in a building. Buildings are limited to the captains rally size. So the more lower tier troops you stock in there, the easier it is to lose against a rally. The side that has the higher casualty percentage loses and they will be removed from the building or fail to take it. For your HQ, you don't get bounced out, but you have a large number of troops that could die if you are hit by a larger opponent. Having millions of T1s absorb some of that damage will help your T11s or whatever tier you have assume less casualties. So you lose T1s, but they are far cheaper and easier to build.

[tall valve]

You could negate it if it were grossly different by how much would you think exactly? I don’t think it would be as negated as one might think with only a couple 100% difference. Maybe 700-1000% sure. Would not matter if it is counter troop. Wasteland should not be that grossly out boosted or you will be defeated and ranked down to a more suitable rank.

And let me clearify a bit. The idea of using a slightly lower tier, for example t8 in young state and t9 in a mature state, is that you can only reinforce as many times as you have the troops available to do so.
You have a 8 hour battle ahead and 5 million t10s. You simply fight until you cannot reinforce with t10s anymore and if the enemy has more or fights with superior efficiency, you will lose in the last half of the allotted time. It is a war of stamina.

So, the idea would be to use the minimal efficient troop first to weaken the enemy and preserve your main firepower for the middle to late half of the allotted time. Im sure many states can attest to being simply outlasted. No more troops to reinforce with. You lose a tower? No more troops to liberate the fortification. So, let’s say you have 100 million t9s available. Why not make them battle them first before the 5 million t10s? The enemy will be wounded before even fighting the strongest of your states force is the idea at least.

Retaking is not that difficult when they just lost 20% over three or four marches just trying to get rid of a few million t9s. You come in right behind them with some fresh t10s and send em home. Rinse and repeat.

The T1 taxi support idea is a new one to me so I’m not sure how they are doing this successfully. To watch a full t10 march into a tower with the captains troop and full taxis, and not return is baffling to me. Rationally, I agree with you. They should just melt right? I don’t understand where the algorithm hole is or how… maybe it’s because it is just THAT easy and cheap? Idk, man.

I still think a well balanced captain would be beneficial in the event of allowing the state to mix and match in the towers. Makes for quick and efficient reinforcement without facing a deficit of one troop type in the state. Unless state controls who makes what troop types which I have not seen yet.

[fresh prairie]

I tried reading all of this. During Wk. The main reason for t1 in buildings is it gives zero points to the attacker.

[tall valve]

I can see that. Or what Neon was saying about placing them in a shielded HUB as a place holder. Totally reasonable. I must have missed something when the marches were not returning. It had our whole group completely lost..

[fresh prairie]

Mixed troop in turrets or hub. I have mixed feelings on that. If you have all three types in one tower and a full force or say shooters is coming. Than the riders is useless. But if you have a full force of riders in your turret and shooters hit. Useless lol.

[tall valve]

Especially if the boost value is close.
I know that we usually run one mixed tower and it does not fall as quick. I am trying to rationalize this.
Is it because a specialized commander will target the tower that gives them the advantage and we do not see as much action in the mixed tower?
Or is it because it is easier to keep full and we never run low on troops in that tower?
Not sure to be honest. I would like to put it to the test though and utilize as much of the entire states forces as physically and rationally possible.

[fresh prairie]

If the leader sends his best rider march. And then super reinforce. Then the shooter and fighters marches sent would be covered under the rider stats right?

[tall valve]

Not what we experienced. This is the discussion we have been facing. I tried testing this in our alliance fort.
When we super reinforced, all the troops directly took whatever my boosts were for whatever respective troop type it applied to. Fighters got my fighter boost,
Shooters got my shooter boost, etc.
when we did not super reinforce, it used everyone’s individual boosts for their marches according to the reports.

So maybe if you mix, don’t super reinforce? Let those commanders use the boost they been specializing in? 🤔
Perhaps that would be a better approach until your down to the younger commanders who have lower boost values? Idk..

[violet lark]

Can resources be stolen in mud santuary when attacked?

[fresh prairie]

Yes.

Usually you only get hit once.

And your troops die, no fast come back

[violet lark]

Thanks a lot

[quartz flame]

All you can do is have the strongest lead and alter when needed. Have everyone switch it up to defend against what ever the rally coming is is. If someone's strong enough to remove you with a rally, you were going to loose anyways.

[worn plume]

hello, my alliance played in the last wasteland kings, and they want to play again this weekend we got help from the alliance aoi and we are very grateful to them for all there help my problem is I don't know how to report that my alliance was in the mud bubbled up I know I have to take a screenshot but I don't know where i post the screenshot any help will be highly appreciated thank you

[livid gazelle]

You probably want to post in your state discord. This is for the entire game.

[worn plume]

thank you very much have a great day

[past cosmos]

I have homeland defense status. Can i occupy the turret and hit other state's santuary during wasteland king tomorrow?

[livid gazelle]

In theory you can still hit turrets

[past cosmos]

Thank you

[latent parcel]

Hello I was hoping to get some help from someone. I am in a state where the translation becomes difficult. So hopefully someone can explain this to me in English. We are about to go into wasteland King and one of the preparation steps is to fill the hospital. Where I get unclear is how many troops do I put in the hospital and what kind. From what I'm understanding right now I send full troops to a resource tile (in my case it's t10s) and then someone attacks me with taxis? And if this is the case how full should I get my hospital? Any clarification and understanding with this is greatly appreciated 🙏

[thin crystal]

Why you need to fill the hospital before WK? As far as i know you need to empty your hospital so only 70% of your troops are dead

Or this perhaps supposed to make your troops goes to deep heals if your infirmaries are already full?

[fresh prairie]

If your hospital is full then. Everything that does and goes to deep healing counts towards fast come back

[sage spear]

I think that is the advice they are trying to understand. I use WK tile hits to fill my regular infirmaries so that by the time I hit turrets, I maximize the fastcomeback return.

[fresh prairie]

🫡

[river haven]

Ok there’s a lot here but couple things that stood out to me- most people using t1 are using them for one of three reasons usually- one is cheaper risk. If ur opponent flies in and wipes your tower first 5 min you lose some t1 rather than t10+. This gives u time to assess your opponent and make strategy as u see fit whether that be nap or not. The next reason is you don’t get point for killing t1 but you DO get points for t1 dying. So basically the enemy has no incentive to kill u (other than they want ur state) but if they do kill you, you’re the only beneficiary. Not them. Third reason is if your not strong enough to hold the hub and all towers, it’s going to kill 1% of your troops in the hub every turret, every 5 min, and these deaths don’t count as comeback. They don’t go to hospital. They’re just dead. This adds up very quickly and is very costly so t1 a obviously better choice. Also when your hubs shielded, turrets still fire so even though enemy can’t take it U still have to stay there and ur troops still die….

They other thing u commented about was using more low level troops with supered towers and yes- this is a strategy many states use. However when doing this it’s critical that towers super remains in place. And more often than not someone falls asleep or gets sidetracked with life and super falls and everyone’s screwed

As for balanced vs single type. Also debatable depending on circumstances. If you have captains with balanced boosts high enough for this- by all means use em. They’re harder than hell to hit.

But most people are not that balanced. And the fact is many won’t feel comfortable losing their boosts for lesser boosts. I personally have had poor planners that put my riders in a tower with super and the captains rider boosts where what mine were back when I was t8 still lol. I straight pulled my troops. F that. I’m not gonna be the sacrificial lamb in someone’s bad planning. And I didn’t spend thousands on my boosts just to use someone’s who’s smaller.

So yes with a perfect world and a state that follows directions and a militarist that understands the pros and cons to all these things- I’d say everything you mentioned would work quite well. All I’ll say is if you find this place with all these things- hit me up. I’ll move asap 😂

[frigid arrow]

Anyone know the max points for occupation?

[fresh prairie]

It’s 2 hours. I think 2m ish

[frigid arrow]

Thank you

[spring geode]

2m? I know there seem to be some differences by grade but that's very different than what I get..

Or did you mean 2k?

[fresh prairie]

Oh yeah. The old way was 2.6m

Forgot we have new way lol

[spring geode]

This was what I had for silver grade, maybe occupy is the same for all:

[placid creek]

Привет

[fresh prairie]

At 90 minutes it’s 300 points

For me

[spring geode]

Wasteland King Points Chart

#👑wasteland-king message

Losing units at the hub seems to continue on at +200 points for +500k lost.

[livid gazelle]

I'm soooo bored...

[wooden girder]

<@&742285797725569104> Why is the last prize of WLK is Valiant conquest frame this time?

[sage spear]

They have always been called valiant frames.
Please do not tag mods for questions. See #📚sanctuary-rules

[wooden girder]

We used to get this one.. and sorry for the tag 😆

[livid gazelle]

It depends on which level you're in you are not in Platinum anymore

[sage spear]

Still a Valiant frame

[wooden girder]

Like the whole state level?

[livid gazelle]

Yes the whole state.

If you don't take another hub you lose points

[languid cradle]

I got more than 1 frame,when i dont use are boosts activated?

[livid gazelle]

You have to activate the frames for the boost to work

[languid cradle]

Cant use 10 frames at the same time😂

[wooden girder]

I thought it was stackable

👀

[languid cradle]

Yes me to

[languid cradle]

So no point to bye more frames yes ?if they dont stack?

[wooden girder]

I think only permanent ones , temporary ones only add in higher stats during the time you use them

[languid cradle]

Ok,sounds possible...i have to start use some😂

[quartz flame]

Once you use a permanent frame the stats are forever added to you even if you remove the frame. Timed frames are the same just timed. And they all stack no limit

[wooden girder]

Thank you 🌹

[solid plume]

Curiosity when hub is shielded from holding a foreign hub… does that shield protect against in state attacks?

[errant crow]

The hub is shielded completely, meaning no one can attack

[cosmic ivy]

how can won 3 opposing state hubs? wastleland isnt just facing 2 opposing states?

[quartz flame]

Mostly it's 3 states battling, on occasion there are 2 or 4 if a league has an uneven amount of states

[tall valve]

After the initial Governor has been selected, can it be transferred?

[sage spear]

Nope

[tall valve]

Thank you

[fresh prairie]

First time in gold. Kinda crazy down here

[atomic mural]

Everyone thinks dropping down is easier until they drop down.

[fresh prairie]

We wanted bigger states to farm for VC

😂😂

[wooden girder]

🤣🤣

[livid gazelle]

We're trying to get back to gold

We're in silver

[latent parcel]

If I switch alliances while I have troops in deep healing do the troops come with me?

[fresh prairie]

Yes

[latent parcel]

Thank you!

[grave dagger]

Just make sure you don’t have any in Alliance Infirmary before you leave that alliance.

[latent parcel]

Good call, thank you for the advice 👍

[fluid halo]

fast comeback said it did not apply to troops lost in turret attack? is this new?

and what exactly does that mean?

[fresh prairie]

If the turret fires on the hub.

[fluid halo]

OK is this new? I don't recall seeing this before

[fresh prairie]

It’s always been there

[fluid halo]

OK then I just never noticed it

thank you for clearing that up for me

[inner sable]

How’s silver? Wk and valiant?

[livid gazelle]

I feel like there's more fighting down here than when we were in Platinum

[inner sable]

That’s surprising. Maybe to stop being in silver?

[livid gazelle]

The more fighting started while we were in gold. I had fun today though

[tawny flicker]

Hi. I am a newbie to WK. May I know if I hit resource tiles in another state, do I get “killing enemy points “?

[livid gazelle]

As long as they're t2 and above you can get points I believe, but it's not going to be easy. Knocking t1s off tiles really isn't worth it. Best is if you can find a headquarters sitting in the mud if the hub fight is over

[thorn wagon]

Can someone confirm this: the rule has changed, troop lost at hub due to turret fire, now counts towards the 300% troop train boost, yes or no?

I looked at patch notes and did not see anything about this but I am being told by multiple individuals that it is the case now, would like to verify this. Thank you alll.

[fresh prairie]

Has never changed.

[thorn wagon]

Thanks hun, much appreciated, always great to clear rumors, lol

[solid plume]

In the event a state is conquered, is the gate control static for the player with most might at time hub is secured by foreign state, end of event, reset, etc.? Or is it dynamic changing with different players increasing/decreasing in might over the two week period?

[white totem]

Yes the new gatekeeper is the highest might that can be change anytime by default

[quasi bramble]

Is there a way to transfer the governor role to another player in the same state after wasteland king has ended

[brave pier]

No, once the title is given that person will be governor for 2 weeks

Or that's what I know 😳

[livid gazelle]

Unfortunately you can't. One weekend the lead alliance gave it accidentally to a dead base and customer service couldn't help. So you're stuck with whoever it was given to.

I believe it's more of a concern that transferring leadership like that could be abused

[mint iris]

Hello everyone , sorry that i bother you . Last WK , I successfully took HUB of S476 . Now how can i become their Governor ? I want to active buff 300% training troop for them . Please help me .

[wise knot]

You can't become their governor, but the 300% training boost activates automatically for them and should already be working

[mint iris]

Oh great

But it is not activated

Do you know when it will be activated automatically ?

[grave gazelle]

Boost only activates automatically for those who lost troops.

[hollow escarp]

It gets activated as soon as wastland king is done. You can not turn on state boosts for the state you conquered so if your looking at there state boost it won't show it being turned on. Ask someone from that state if the fast comeback is activated. It should be

[sterile glade]

Wasteland Kings
This is the 2nd time for me, and I'm FAR from the only player talking about this exact issue, where the lack of a points grid has been a REAL problem with the event. With the change 3 months ago it is now completely impossible to tell how many points are needed to finish the event and plan for that fact, so players are left guessing.

Have I gotten enough points troops killed so that occupation points will be enough, I don't know.
What's the max points I can get for killing troops, I dont know
what's the max points I can get for killing my own troops, I don't know

I get not having the pop-ups anymore, if fine with that, but what the max points are for a given type of action, and the points given for a given tier, are now a complete mystery for the event, so we have to 'guess' when enough is enough. Oh and this information exists nowhere on the web, myself, and others, have looked extensively with no luck.

[versed hedge]

Why not to write down the points by yourself and make a sheet about it? Its not for all the same, but usually thats how a lot informations here in server came from, some took the time to write down what points for what they needed and added them into a sheet and collected datas from others as well also and shared it then.

[sterile glade]

Yes, we could do that, but really we shouldn't have to. There should be a help option somewhere on the event screen that gives us that information. It doesnt have to be the pop ups again, just a flat screen display would do the trick.

[fresh prairie]

Just kill your troops. You complete it quick.

[versed hedge]

I will add it into my report

[gloomy owl]

This?

It's extremely variable 🍻

[sterile glade]

Something off of that which would give you points per tier, and what was needed to gain a tier, in advance of going for a given tier level
that 'i' doesn't give you that, far from it. It just gives you the point values of given units which is only useful if you know how many points are needed for each tier in advance, so what is currently under those 'i's is pretty meh, not useful at all. You need both.

Basically, you need what used to be in the pop up charts, somewhere.

[sterile glade]

THANKS!!!!

[quartz flame]

A lot of things in the game don't have lists/instructions/ tier level displayed. Seems to be by design

[sterile glade]

For example? No seriously, what else doesn't? All the daily events have a grid with tiers, every stage of ace commander, Nuka, Alliance Trail, its a game with grids and charts a plenty and WK used to have them as well, that information just went poof.

[quartz flame]

This discord has a lot of player made charts because the game doesn't explain. Look around

[white totem]

Hello, does anyone know how many T1s need to die to get all rewards? Last WK I spent too much time I defensive position and ended up short...

[river haven]

Did you click the ! by the points things? Cuz that shows u quite a bit of info. Edit- I see that u didn’t find what u wanted there…. Sorry not helping 😬

[sterile glade]

yeah it doesn't have a point per tier chart, just a point for units chart
im looking for what used to be in the pop ups to exist, somewhere, anywhere. Because its all a guessing game at this point.

[fresh prairie]

#👑wasteland-king message

Something like this?

[sterile glade]

EXACTLY LIKE THAT YES THANK YOU !!!!

[brazen holly]

Do the pairings ever change for Wasteland King or do you face the same 2 states forever?

[winged vessel]

Should change every two weeks but sometimes can get matched with the same states as your in the same level

[livid gazelle]

It fluctuates

[white totem]

If someone is made governor while in the state alliance, do they have to remain there for the duration or can they go back to their main alliance and retain governorship?

[fresh prairie]

They can leave

[white totem]

And they will remain governor?

Thank you Kazuhiro!

[fresh prairie]

Yes

[whole rose]

Hey there all! Question .. is there a sure-fire way to know who we may be paired up with again? a list of other states in the same tier?

[sage spear]

There isnt. Everyone finds out at the start of the event.

[whole rose]

I figured. I mean of course I know our grade and such, just was hoping to connect with the other states on details. Previous folks have said they've set things up ahead of time ( NAP etc ) and for the life of me, I couldn't find a resource or something that would give that info.

Was goin a wee craaazy

[distant gust]

Is this where we sign up for WK?

[grave dagger]

No. That will be on your states discord server.

[fading sleet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/994076535399133364/999865150628712499/unknown.png

[sage spear]

Did you mean to repost a chart here that was made by a moderator?

[fading sleet]

No sorry my mistake

[versed hedge]

There got also erased the signature of the creator 👀

[fresh prairie]

Sneaky

[weary lichen]

I’m in but need a start time shooters T9

[fresh prairie]

Maybe on your state discord

[mild forge]

Am in and my first time aswell ☺️

[white totem]

Does an alliance tech matter in WLK? As in do you necessarily have to be within the green lines to get the boosts?

[lapis cosmos]

Nope don't need to be in green

[fresh prairie]

👀

[white totem]

So then the tech matters?

[fresh prairie]

Yeah

[lapis cosmos]

Yep yep

[white totem]

Thank you for clearing it up

[light skiff]

For states that fill the mud with bases. Why? What benefit do you get from that?

[fresh prairie]

Only benefit would to keep the enemy states further back. But if you leave 1 spot it would defeat the purpose. And any 40 can just use speeds and diamonds.

[sage spear]

The benefit of more chances to give you opponents points when shields drop 🔥🤣

[fresh prairie]

Some are very happy then. Some are devastated lol

[lapis cosmos]

For some states this is how they can qualify for nap if they can't fight

[minor slate]

Hi where can I find start time for wk?

[fresh prairie]

Open up events. Go to upcoming. Had a count down on it.

[minor slate]

Thank you

[pulsar anvil]

Question with the new immigration rule of no attacks for 24 hrs does that mean if you jump before wk starts you can't participate?

[brave pier]

you will still be able to attack in valiant war/wasteland king as long you not try to attack your own state.
The new rule was made just for don't allow who migrates to attack the new state before 24h.

[echo anchor]

hello all.. i have a question please.. during WLK, when reinforcing hub/turrets which one is better a. single troop type (ie. fighters only) or b. mixed troop type ? also if mixed troop type, is it advisable to use super reinforced or not ?

[versed hedge]

If superreinforcement then only mixed if the lead is strong in the mixed troops (for example rider and fighter), because only stats of the lead counts, otherwise your turrets/hub will be lost fast. Without superreinforcement those who join the turrets should have strong stats and take care to just add for example joining mainly shooters and few riders to make it safe against fighter etc

[echo anchor]

Thank you @versed hedge

[worn barn]

Someone looking for me? We are finally fighting 266. Also with 227 who is friendly

[fresh prairie]

Im friendly

[versed hedge]

Its fun 😁

[worn barn]

It's busy battle..

[versed hedge]

It is 😁😂

[worn barn]

227 and 266 are grouping up against us?

[sharp mulch]

oh no haha we are just having fun and getting points 👉🏼👈🏼

[worn barn]

Should we visit 227 hub for points?

[sharp mulch]

all the fun is in 266😋

[worn barn]

😂😂

[versed hedge]

I like the fun in s266 👀👉👈

[sharp mulch]

we finally matched up 🤣

[brave pier]

Hiiiiii

And finally 🙌🙌

[worn barn]

That double rally

[hoary harbor]

If our hub was taken would fast comeback automatically start once hub is secured or when event is over?

[brave pier]

Once hub is secured

[hoary harbor]

Thank u

[hoary harbor]

Does it override an existing fast comeback or a player would have two activated?

[fresh prairie]

If you successfully take your hub. The governor needs to activate it.

[hoary harbor]

Im asking if we lose it

[fresh prairie]

I missed that. Apologies.

[hoary harbor]

No worries

[obsidian snow]

Have 10’s. How many troops do@I need to lose to get all the points?

[willow verge]

hate has made a points guide here: #👑wasteland-king message

[rough aspen]

If one loose hub and state can they still get fast comeback ??

Or it exclusively has to be activated by governor ??

[grave dagger]

If you lose your HUB fast comeback will be started automatically

[rough aspen]

Okay

[worn barn]

Very long and hurtful battle this time

[versed hedge]

But a lot of fun as well also 😁

[worn barn]

Sure fun when everyone teaming up against you lol

[void swallow]

To confirm this is an accurate layout of how many HQ can essentially fit in the "mud"?

[livid gazelle]

Barring lairs and other things

[void swallow]

Perfect! This is an awesome tool. Thank you!

[pliant apex]

How can we spread the word about how super rallies work, it seems basically the entire game wants to send their own strongest troops to a turret without care of the stats of the leader

I think it's probably the most misunderstood thing about the game

[sage spear]

It is very well understood by those who do it right

[pliant apex]

I mean rocket science is well understood by rocket scientists, but I take your point haha

[smoky mortar]

Has anyone appointed the wrong Governor and been able to change it?

[quartz flame]

Nope

Cannot be changed

[quartz flame]

You need to organize those yourself. The way to spread the word is to tell the people the simple idea.

[pliant apex]

I'm trying, it's like trying to hold back the tide though

[livid gazelle]

Start kicking people

[pliant apex]

😂

[versed hedge]

Most effective way to teach them is to kick them when they send wrong... they will learn to have a closer look

😆

[main shoal]

Can the governor title be passed from someone that got it in error to another person

I read the answer already. Thanks

[main shoal]

If the governor flies … it doesn’t transfer we just lose the the decrees too, correct . Or do they get to transfer it to another player?

[winged vessel]

Yep gov won't get replaced so boosts won't get activated

[versed hedge]

He needs to appoint an aide, then you hopefully can at least switch titles around

[main shoal]

Just wanted to make sure nothing had changed with an update . Thanks.

[turbid valve]

If fast comeback as been set off and you are fighting for another hub, do the casualties get added on to the amount (I hope I worded that right lol)

[fresh prairie]

Yes.

[turbid valve]

Thank you

[zinc osprey]

Hope everyone had a lovely fun WK

Can someone pls clarify this for me. Once hub is secured can you still get points from tile hits? Just lost 3 mil might and not one damn point earned 🥲

[fresh prairie]

Points towards fastcome back?

You losing 3m might, wouldn’t count since it’s not a hub or turret attack. But if your kill enemy on tiles. Then should count.

And tiles doesn’t count towards fastcome back

[versed hedge]

If the enemies not have just t1s in tiles

[versed hedge]

How to rebuild with fast comeback on a smart way?
☆ fill infirmary with t1s (cheaper to heal)
☆ troops in deep heal counts to fast comeback as long they felt during wk battles
☆ check to have balance talents activated
☆ activate training speed boost in the sanctuary boosts
☆ activate cost red. talent from the talent book
-> take care to rebuild the troops from fast comeback during the hour the cost red. talent is activated, that way you dont need so much ressources
-> if the talent runs out build smaller t units and upgrade them next event with the cost red. talent (cost red. and speed up reducing... just for ace thursday not so good anymore, but there are other troop training events)

[dawn prairie]

Something appears to be wrong with the state grades for wasteland. Our state was in platinum, we kept our hub, and took one state. Somehow we ended up skipping Diamond level tier completely and went right into legend. Not sure how that even happens. Are other states seeing this massive fluctuation in state rankings? Perhaps Diamond tier needs to be bigger?

[high dragon]

Nah, because they changed the point system so people drop grade pretty fast unless they occupy another state, so not many people can retain the grade since many prefer to do nap when face with similar stats opponent. And since legend is top 9, anyone who pushes up the ranking from platinum gets into legend pretty easy.

And whoever goes up into legend just become victim of those monster states. Then you have a bunch of always nap states alternating between silver and gold.

[livid gazelle]

That is a pretty apt description of the ranking

[quiet estuary]

In WK it has personal point and state point.

a. Is state point only come from holding hub? or is there any other stuff that contribute to it?

b. Is tile hit or your base being attacked in mud will contribute to other state point? or only personal point?

---

Like our state ban tile gather in mud during WK (even after hub is in peaceful status/secured) - saying that mud gather will let other state getting poin, hence making our state lose.

And I dont think that is what happen in WK. I dont think tile hitting or getting attacked in mud after hub is secured will make my state lose, but not sure also 🤷🏻‍♂️

[fresh prairie]

You will give the state other points for filling tiles in mud. But it won’t prevent you from winning. Only 1 way to win. Is securing hub . A lot of us trade kills with others to get personal points. By filling tiles

Personal points is from occupation/ kills and deaths( only to gun turret kills). State points? Not sure what you mean. But securing the hub for 8 consecutive hours or total hours will win for you

[quiet estuary]

so tile hit will not effect state rank or grade? only securing hub will effect that?

[fresh prairie]

Correct.

[quiet ember]

A while back I'm pretty sure that I read any units killed by turret missiles while you're in the hub do not count towards Fast Comeback. That is still the case with the recent updates right?

[livid gazelle]

That is still the case

[muted cairn]

Hi, I have a question about how and when you get a shield on your home hub. If you use two separate Alliances (attack / defence) and you take the opposing hub with your attack team but your defence team is in your home hub, will your home hub still receive the benefit of the Shield?

[fresh prairie]

Yup

[muted cairn]

Thank you very much!

[icy gulch]

So does your opponents in wasteland king change only when someone takes control over someone's hub or can it change every WK?

[livid gazelle]

Your opponents are basically random. They're based on what grouping you're in. We haven't had the same opponents in more than a few wastelands at this point

[icy gulch]

Okay, someone was trying to say they were the same unless you get your hub taken and I wasn't sure.

[icy gulch]

Thank you ❤️

[livid gazelle]

You may end up matched with the same group for a couple of events. There was a space of a couple months where every few weeks would be matched up with a specific state but I really think it was just because we all were hovering around the same points and level

[knotty abyss]

WLK sucks, the pairing system has paired us with states WAY older and larger then us for last few months, going to have to fight to try and get to bronze level just in a hope to get a somewhat even match up again.

Wish it at least worked like valiant where troops re-spawned and we could really go to town using them

[versed hedge]

The age for the states dont count for matchmaking of WK... you get matched by the points your state has

[knotty abyss]

@versed hedge I am aware that is what should happen, however given the last 5 wars have been ONLY against older states and we are only silver/gold rank
There is a issue, best I can tell to even get close to a fair match up we will have to force lose enough to reach bronze rank and I am honestly skeptical that that will even net any somewhat fair match ups.

Frankly the system suck, the pairing is so bad the event is utter garbage, and this is compounded by the fact that unlike valiant where one can still enjoy losing troops cuz they come back WLK recovery is to harsh to really let loose and enjoy when your so far out-powered.

How is it a good system to be paired with states filled with accounts who are to old to fly to our state. Hell last war there was a 2 B might HQ 24. Among the many many many 1-2 billion might other players.

Because yea they should be ranked along with a newer state, that makes sense.

Honestly it is utter trash and easily one of the worst aspects of the game, the Devs REALLY need to work on a algorithm for matches that somewhat works, or at least remove losses for such events like all the other (res war, valiant ect)

[versed hedge]

I understand your point, but imagine it would be about age of states... ichis alliance in 335 with just states of that age... oh geesh... im happy its about points the state makes, so it protect other states to get paired by beasts like them

With the points the state makes it hold it in a balance... a few fights and you drop down in bracket and you will have then weaker states... you got pushed into a too high bracket and its annoying for now... but when you lose a few times your hub you will drop down and those stronger states will go up... just have patience

[uneven rapids]

Hello,
Can someone point me or give me information on what happens if you lose WK? What happens to the state boosts?

[hallow crown]

Check the pins 📌

There's a nice tutorial made by Kato

[uneven rapids]

Thank you! 😊

[teal imp]

I read the pin and it did explain penalties for losing, but is there any reason in terms of personal rewards to join?

I think I read you get rss + boosts to pretty much get you back to where you were and more if you participate, is that generally true?

[livid gazelle]

Anything that you get for participation is going to be based on your state. But if your state works together you can probably keep your hub which means you would have a governor who can set the boost and give titles

[blazing cloak]

Red

[summer quartz]

Blue

[sage spear]

🟢 Green 🟢

[versed hedge]

👀

[sage spear]

You broke the pattern 😭

[versed hedge]

Ehmmm... i mean.... purple

[summer quartz]

Bruuuuh

[unkempt ibex]

I checked the pins and there’s nothing about it in there, so I was just wanting to confirm if opposing players from your own state can hit you if you’re parked on the green in a foreign state, or are they still limited to the blacktop? from memory i don’t think they can, but would prefer a definitive answer if possible. thanks guys

[fresh prairie]

Regular state attacks apply

[unkempt ibex]

Thanks hun. Just to confirm, in both home and foreign states?

[fresh prairie]

Not sure about being on foreign lands

[unkempt ibex]

Okay thank you, I know that normal attacks still apply at home, I guess I’ll have to test and see during WK tonight unless anybody know for sure about foreign lands.

[livid gazelle]

Please let us know

[sage spear]

I don’t think you can attack anything on the green in a foreign state during WK. I’m pretty sure I tried scouting a friend before and it wasn’t an option.

[minor slate]

Can someone tell me me start time please

[unkempt ibex]

10 hours after reset

So 9pm Australian Eastern Daylight Savings Time (i noticed the aboriginal flag shirt in your profile pic lol)

[minor slate]

Thank you Killa 🙏

[unkempt ibex]

No problem 💪

[minor slate]

Awesome 👌 😀

[unkempt ibex]

That was my thinking as well. I just can’t remember for certain

[minor slate]

Lol brilliant I do appreciate that...

[unkempt ibex]

No problem, I’m actually from QLD so it’s 8pm for me all year round 😂

[minor slate]

In in the NT

[unkempt ibex]

Oh nice! I think that makes it 7.30pm start for you

[minor slate]

Yep. So now I can put that time in my calendar lol.

[unkempt ibex]

Best of luck tonight 🔥

[minor slate]

Same to you too. Have a safe Christmas n NY

[unkempt ibex]

Thank you! Same to you and yours ❤️

[thick narwhal]

What is the plan for WK tomorrow?

[fresh prairie]

Win

[versed hedge]

Im not sure but you maybe wanted to ask that in your state or alliance server? This is the official pns server with people from all states 🫣😊🌼🍀

[fresh prairie]

I’ve tried today. 100% can’t att on foreign state.

[unkempt ibex]

perfect thank you!

[white totem]

To relocate in foreign state it costs diamond in WK?

[dim prairie]

Q... If you lose your hub during WLK, do you still get the fast comeback 300% buff?

[grave dagger]

Yes. That’s the only boost you’ll get though.

[dim prairie]

Haha I've never actually lost a hub before. The guys in my state are going zero excited about the buff.. LoL Wanted to check.

Can a mod verify this is accurate?

[versed hedge]

Yes the 300% fast comeback buff will be automatically activated when your hub got conquered by another state

[dim prairie]

Thank you @grave dagger & @versed hedge .

[grave dagger]

No problem

[dim prairie]

Was this recently changed?

A have a player telling me 2mo ago their hub was taken& they didn't get that buff..

@grave dagger @versed hedge

[fresh prairie]

Has always been this way

[dim prairie]

Thank you love

[sinful tendon]

Does anyone know for the points of losing the units if it is only for killed units or inclusive with the wounded ones too?

[sage spear]

Killed only

[exotic totem]

How many T9 do I have to loose to make full points (got the ones from occupation and some from attack on turret I was in, 4k in all)
Only 1 hour left for turret attack/kills 😳
Well .... time ran out got half way with points only ... but would be still nice to know for next time how many T9 you need to have killed for points

[solemn stratus]

Governor tried to appoint marshal. Title didn't take effect but looks like it's on cooldown anyway. What can cause that?

[round onyx]

It does that sometimes. A glitch with how you’re selecting. Always go back out all the way and in to select someone. Seems to help

[solemn stratus]

Thanks.

[willow verge]

hate has some info here: #👑wasteland-king message

[warm spruce]

So question. How does the game determine which states fight against each other for the weekend? We got pited against a state that was filled 2billion might players and neither state stood a chance against them. When our biggest player has a billion might.

[marsh saddle]

Not sure if it is a planned changed but I noticed the Legend grade has disappeared 👀

[versed hedge]

Its called " legend the top 9 of diamond grade " 😊😉

But usually i guess they should get shown as legend

[marsh saddle]

That’s why I was asking if something changed as it always stated legend before. Even the symbol changed

[versed hedge]

I will ask at captains, but respond will take a while since they are in weekend 😊

[marsh saddle]

Thank you 🙏

[exotic totem]

T9 was worth 40/45 points per own-killed/killed. T10 around 60 ... so it can't be "units" in that list. 🙃

[willow verge]

That is a chart of how many points you need for each tier.

If you lose units worth 1,000,000 points, you'll clear 10 tiers for 3300 total points (out of the 10,000 needed)

[mint escarp]

I think everyone is diamonds (i mean the top) when event starts… after the event… the top 9 of the diamonds go to Legend for the next 2 weeks… then another top 9 takes over…. So your rewards in the next WK will be in Legend…

So its fair that it shows diamond there…

So you going to meet any 2 random in the top 9…

[marsh saddle]

Nah it’s always shown Legend as the grade. Believe me we have been there since it was available 😂

The trophy literally shows it changing

[white totem]

If rogue alliance ABC from state 987 conquers our hub, but there is another alliance XYZ in the hub of state 987 (own hub), is the hub of 987 then also bubbled? Or must both hub he in possession of the same alliance?

[fresh prairie]

Still gets bubbled.

[clever prism]

How long do the boost from title given from Wasteland King last?

[fresh prairie]

You mean like aide and Marshall? Etc…. As long as you have the title.

[clever prism]

Ah ok

[cunning yew]

Is there a breakdown per Troop Tier minimum needed to get points in all 3 categories?

[willow verge]

hate has a chart here: #👑wasteland-king message

[versed hedge]

Hard to do so because its about grades and stuff

Hate tried to work on one but he would need gamers from all grades who shares the points for themselves with him

[cunning yew]

Thank You

[versed hedge]

Maybe some of the different grades pay attention on their points and send them hate so he can add them on his list and share it with us all 😊🤩

[willow verge]

Ah, I didn't even realize that the points were different for the grades. I usually sit in a turret for awhile and then kill off 2 marches of 200k to get my points so I never really noticed. I'll have to keep an eye out next WK and take some notes. Thanks for the heads up. 👍

[versed hedge]

😊 he will be happy when you give him more datas to complete his list 🌼

[grave dagger]

Immigrating to a different state

[fresh prairie]

I think if he moves to another state

[candid forge]

Whats more affective, green blocking, mud blocking, or both?

[livid gazelle]

I would say blocking the green is more effective. If anybody wants to be on a shorter March to hit they can speed up other ways thn park on the mud.

[quartz flame]

We block both. We have enough volunteers to block past the alliances there. Important to get everyone, even you're smaller players involved

[mint fulcrum]

Any beast that wants you’re hub, they’ll spend diamonds to get it. Mud blocking is more of an illusion in my opinion.

[mint fulcrum]

This is the other side where blocking helps state unity.

[teal imp]

Do you lose rss if you attack turrets in opposing states? I just need enough points for the speed ups but usually I can’t be on for most of the day. Last WLK I snuck away to do one attack on a turret then ported back home. I remember I lost troops but don’t remember if I lost rss which worries me because I’m sitting on a ton from Valiant still. TIA

[willow verge]

Rss is safe on turret hits.

[teal imp]

Thanks!

[rigid siren]

can someone tell me if reseting another state's hub will help us stay in gold or we need to keep their hub in order to win points?

[white totem]

You need to keep other hub (also you'r hub) to win points

[rigid siren]

so just reseting helps nothing

it's very strange last wk we did nothing but hold our own hub and we lost points dropped to silver

[livid gazelle]

Resetting just makes the whole event last longer

[rigid siren]

the next one we did exactly the same and we won points got back in gold

[white totem]

Nop. Because the state take back. So to do extra point to grow in legion, need to take another hub

[rigid siren]

i suppose it also depends on the other states rating?

cause sometimes we win points just by holding our hub, other times we lose points for that

[white totem]

the war between states generally falls with the state statistics, but also the legion, if you are in gold, you fall with state gold, if you are silver, state silver and so on

[rigid siren]

yea, but i am still not sure why sometimes lose pts and drop legion and sometimes win pts and raise legion when we just hold our own hub

[white totem]

points are lost when your state makes more victims. is a points capacity

to lose troops without losing points. if you exceed the capacity of victims, the opposing state gains points and your state loses3

[oblique bane]

Silver you get points for holding just your hub. Gold you lose points

[rigid siren]

Thanks, Erik this is what i was looking for

[livid gazelle]

It depends on your rating. The problem with the points description is it says no hub occupied. It means if you just keep your own.

It's really beginning to feel like they want everybody bouncing between silver and gold

[rigid siren]

thnx

[rigid siren]

Anka said above lost units also play a role, are killings play a role too?

[livid gazelle]

Those Only play a point for the bonus items you get based on state ranking

[lapis cosmos]

Nice setup lol

[crimson galleon]

Thanks

[mint fulcrum]

If your Marlowe, Mars, meyers are at +7 or Lora&Jessie, nataly, Angelo, dara are at +3, then plug one in for Bard. Should see the percentage on lair completion go up.

[limpid moon]

Question? If I’m in another state attacking it’s hub. Can another player from the same state I came from, but in a different alliance, attack my sanctuary? I know if I was in the mud they could. If we were in our home state they can, but wasn’t sure if it also could happen in the enemy state if someone was an EoS?

[grave dagger]

As long as you are in the green, no one can attack your sanc during WK. Doesn’t even allow the option to.

Valiant is where you’d have to keep an eye out for that happening

[river cape]

Can’t even scout if they’re on the green!
The first time I came across that I actually contacted CS about it, thinking it was a glitch. Me and a state friend finally figured it out though, lol.

[hazy thunder]

Good evening, friends) Tell me, please. If we capture a foreign state and the shield closes on our hub, will another alliance from our state be able to attack our hub?

[river cape]

The shield prevents all but turret fire from getting through.

[hazy thunder]

That's for sure?😍

Well, it's actually logical.
😆

[hazy thunder]

Thanks

[river cape]

You’re welcome

[mint fulcrum]

Another alliance from in state can attack I believe.

[river cape]

Another in state alliance can attack, but he asked specifically if it could be done if the hub was shielded. They can’t attack if the hub is shielded.

[mint fulcrum]

I believe they can. We had an odd one where a state was trying to loose so they created fake accounts in other states to take hub. Then the other stage creates accounts in theirs to hold hub. I thought I saw a different alliance go through the shield to try and take hub. Maybe it bounced off and the giant shield just made me lazily look at it.

[river cape]

100% positive they can’t. In order to get through that shield one must have the same alliance tags as the person holding the hub.

[raven pilot]

Good evening . How do I find a link to the registration of the King of the wasteland?

[versed hedge]

Good evening 😊 i think you maybe wanted to ask in your state discord? You are actual in the official pns discord server with people from all states around 😊

[raven pilot]

How do I find a channel with my staff ?

[fading prairie]

You will need to ask your alliance in-game to see if they have an alliance discord server or if the state has one. If so, they can invite you to it.

[cinder patrol]

Is Legend gone?

[fresh prairie]

The way it’s described it’s now “legend it’s top 9 at Diamond league”

[cinder patrol]

Yes. That’s how it’s always been described. But it used to say legend. It no longer does.

Legend has always been top 9 of Diamond

[fresh prairie]

Yeah.

[river haven]

Soooooo legend is gone?

It shows it in personal still but not state.

[dusky elm]

From what I have seen for most instances, the display has been quite inconsistent since the changes implemented (battle division). I think I brought it up way earlier when the change implemented. But then I kept noticing inconsistencies in the grade - but it doesn't affect much. Figured that it's a minor, display bug.

[dusky elm]

I'm certain that such a big change would've been announced or there will be another 'Zenith riot' 🫣

[river haven]

While I agree, event board says otherwise. As well as award previews

[dusky elm]

It's around this time of that year when the developers messed up with WK and Zenith (last, last November actually)... Maybe it may be happening again.

I think otherwise though, didn't see any updates that screwed up WK. We'll find out soon when WK starts in 20 mins.

[polar ravine]

If you win wateland king with longest occupation rather than complete the 8 hour occupation. Do you get the minus points in platnium level for no hub occupied?

[fresh prairie]

You would still win if you had longest occupational time. And obtain the hub

[polar ravine]

Yes However thats not my question. I am wondering about the point systems

[fresh prairie]

Yes.

[tired hatch]

Do you not get kill points anymore from hitting tiles? (I've immigrated recently to a high ranking state)

[polar ravine]

Basically last time my state was in platnium we held our hub and now we are in gold

I am wondering if our hub gets reset, if we get minus points?

even if at the end we can have a governor

[fresh prairie]

Yes if you just hold your hub you get minus points.

[polar ravine]

Ok Thank you so much !

[river haven]

The chart shows which levels drop and by how much if you’re curious. Just remember it’s referring to foreign hubs. It’s kinda misleading. Other than that the only one in question now is the no longer existing legend tier…. Lol

[fresh prairie]

There’s some pins with pictures too with good explanation

[spark nacelle]

I am not sure what the point is for the Wasteland King event. For instance, today, you put my state 548 against S27 and S251 - collectively as an entire state we don't have the might to match the top 5 players - these types of match-ups cause people to leave the game - I am talking to several who just feel like there is no point - because every time you send these monsters into a baby state they just decimate us and we have no chance to even try to fight. IT is ridiculous. We aren't able to get any event points without annihilating our entire troops force for the state. What is your point?

[vivid condor]

Hi! I am sure this has been answered somewhere but want to clarify the fast comeback boost in wk. i beleive game says you get credit for might depleted by “casualties”. That means killed or wounded troops. But I have heard the credit only applies to killed troops?

[oblique bane]

fast comeback is only dead. also deaths from turret hits do not count

[vivid condor]

Thank you Erik

[elfin charm]

Qns: What happens if State A takes State C hub while State B is occupying State A hub?

[livid gazelle]

I believe nothing will happen. Your state has to be holding both hubs

[mint fulcrum]

All based on tiers. What tier is your state in?

[cinder patrol]

The point is to defend your state to earn rewards. That’s it. Under the new points system, when states defend their hub successfully but don’t take any others, they drop points. So you’ll face a wider variety of states. And not all old states are strong.

[cinder patrol]

I think it’s a display error. Everything else still says legend and it’s still a tier for all the rewards.

[river haven]

Mine doesn’t anymore

It did til it started

Now it just shows diamond and platinum rewards

And the information sheets still says the wrong officers that can start certain events so I wouldn’t take that info as fact for nothing.

[solemn stratus]

Does it matter if I heal troops before or after Fast Comeback? Does the healing use up Fast Comeback might I mean.

[sage spear]

Heal away 🤣

[solemn stratus]

Thanks. Gonna wait til I'm ready to train to heal. Cost Reduction talent 🙂

[grave dagger]

Make sure to use Instant Heal first. Every little bit helps.

[solemn stratus]

Definitely.

[elfin charm]

Qns: If a Hub is shielded (due to occupying another state), will they take damage from the turrets occupied by different alliance?

[livid gazelle]

If it's not the same alliance then yes they will take damage

[spark nacelle]

The moght of one player in the state that took us is more than the top 10 players in our state... so if that is the matching it is deeply flawed

[livid gazelle]

That's the thing with the new setup. You're going to run into moments that you can't win and eventually you'll find times when you can. The only thing I can suggest is start working together to make the entire state stronger. That's what we've been doing in mine.

[simple dragon]

How long do we have to wait for our troops to be healed in the deep healing center?

Why isn’t there an easier way to get our troops healed?

[fresh prairie]

Takes time. Diamonds, dailies and time.

The less in regular infirmary speeds it up slightly too.

[indigo flume]

Anyone what does diamond and legend state personal rewards section look's like ?

[simple dragon]

Thank you

[fresh prairie]

Psst. Psst. Scroll to the right. 😊

It will show more

[indigo flume]

Just noticed now

https://tenor.com/view/thanksgiving-break-thumbs-up-timmy-the-sheep-timmy-time-gif-15624267

[spark nacelle]

@livid gazelle i will say that our state is working together, but when our highest member in our state is 300 mil mt, and the visiting state has more than 1 player over 1 bn mt - there is a problem with the matching. Defend it as rote, but that is a serious problem ... even in nukaland last week there was i player with over 850 mil mt, I'm barely over 100 mil mt .... I know there are better matches out there. This is an issue that should be acknowledged.

[willow verge]

Any specific rules about matching will be gamed by alliances. Better to just leave it to random matching within the grades, IMO. Sometimes you get a good matchup, sometimes you don't.

[inner sable]

Nuka land isn’t based on might it’s based on hqs. Wasteland is based on your grade level similar to res wars. Drop a grade of you aren’t happy with the match making is the only real solution. By the sound of it though you’re likely in starter or bronze. The only thing you can do is negotiate a NAP and use your time to get stronger

[fresh prairie]

So now I’m confused. Now it shows legend. Lol

[livid gazelle]

Probably fixed it in an update?

[fresh prairie]

Possible. Not sure if there was an update between her pic post and now.

[livid gazelle]

I think I got one this morning like a small fix update

[cinder patrol]

I figured it was just a display error

[atomic mural]

I don't have to worry about legend 😂

[livid gazelle]

I don't think I want to ever worry about legend lol

[atomic mural]

Some of your guys were not happy with 14 😂

[livid gazelle]

Thing is is that we totally expected to become the playground. We knew we were the weakest of the three states. But the way that one player was talking was very disrespectful.

[atomic mural]

It was a bit. There was talk of a takeover from our side but agreed nap is not something most of us break.

[livid gazelle]

Very appreciated.

Though I'm pretty sure we would have preferred you guys taking us over then the other state. I have a feeling a lot of us are going to 14 to light as much stuff on fire as we can during valiant

[atomic mural]

Straight in the deep end 😂 do ye have history with 14?

[livid gazelle]

No. Apparently one of our guys brought up Andrew and that really made their governor mad. She thought we were being very disrespectful too. I suspect that when our one player hit her it did more damage than she wanted to admit so she was just trying to save face.

[atomic mural]

Who doesn't love bruising an ego 😁

[livid gazelle]

I've angered a few 40s when they couldn't light me on fire after the first hit. Got to keep building up my meat shield

[lilac warren]

I got a lot of my points for tile hitting yesterday it’s how I finished my personal points

[storm nebula]

I would really like to know what you guys are thinking when you're matching up states for wastelanking because why would State 9 be matched up with 551? I mean the might difference in those two states is just outrageously different. You would think that there would be some sort of formula that you know. The states are going to have relatively the same amount of might or be close in age not be like one of the oldest states and are really new state

[lapis cosmos]

It's based off what bracket your in. You can literally be put up against any state within that bracket

[storm nebula]

Well this needs to be taken back to the drawing board and refig it out because there should be a bracket for your might range. Not a bracket for the whole of PNS because those bigger states just don't fight in wasteland King and they bring down theirs so that they can go bully the little states

[lapis cosmos]

I wouldn't say uts perfect but it's pretty neat I've met a variety of people I every state based on how it is plus it was recently changed. If they go up a bracket you won't face them again. Theirs more Little states than just newer states. There is 7 brackets i think and everyone starts somewhere

[storm nebula]

I think it's a big fail unless you can get an NAP with those big states. You're screwed. There's no way for the states that don't even have anybody with a a billion might to fight against states that have 20 players with over a billion might

[lapis cosmos]

It happens not all wastelands are fair. I've seen brutal wastelands and I've seen boring wastelands. Now since Nataly has been added I've seen a good mix of stuff. There's gonna be times you need to nap just pick your battles wisely.

[storm nebula]

You used to be or a couple months into playing this on the state I was in was matched up with states that were around the same age. Some of them are stronger but it was still fun. You could still actually kick them out of your hub. You just had to fight for it the way it's set up now. Once those older states are in your hub and they've taken over, you can't do anything. You're screwed

[storm nebula]

It's not about picking your battles. It's about the other states being bullies like once there's that big they don't care about NAP and they'll pretend to have one with you and then at the last minute they'll break it because they're bullies because they can be because there might is so much more. It's unfairly matched. It should be matched by the might of the state they should be within. You know a billion of each other at least

[lapis cosmos]

Other states are not bullies if they choose not to nap that's also leads back to the whole if you know you can take a state successfully do it. See the breaking nap is a different story that I can understand frustration from I've seen that and was in a wasteland when something like that happened. But you also gotta remember naps are player made this is a war game after all and that's what keeps me sane most days. Some states will make wasteland go the full 24 hours and I cannot understand why and how they haven't slept😂 I give them props

[storm nebula]

They are bullies because they can be. They will say they will do an NAP then wait out almost 8 hours and then they'll come attack. You let me guess you're in one of those old states, so that's why you're so defensive of not being able to fight against the younger ones that can't stand up against you

[storm nebula]

I agree it is a war game, but it should be matched up fairly by the might of the state. The younger states should not be matched up with states that have five times the amount of might in them that they do and I have spent plenty of times awake 24 hours fighting but it was a fair fight and that's why it went that long cuz it was back and forth and I don't mind a fair fight

[lapis cosmos]

You can see my state in my name lol I flew from the 200s. I've seen my fair share in this game and my suggestion is to buckle up honestly nothing in this game is fair tbh. I'm in an alliance on gov rotation as well. Your a newish state and dealing with the same thing we deal with as well. There are some wastelands it's all t1s after awhile due to that. Most try to drag it out for points

There's alot of older states I've seen that are empty as well. And smaller like some of the newish states. I'm not defending anyone but I'm saying we all go through it with certain states it'll be OK at the end of the day just don't bite off more than you can chew and switch to t1s if it's gonna be a long haul.

[storm nebula]

Biting off more than we can. Chew is implying that we have a choice. We don't have a choice. We're stuck with whatever PNS gives us and they should be doing it based off of some sort of formula. Like might something that shows how big a state is, how much they can handle. How you know the states should be equally matched so that they can actually fight each other and not and not just be overrun

[lapis cosmos]

Equal is not a term pns uses. Along with might doesn't equate strength along with not everyone in that state participates in wk. There's alotta factors. So might wouldn't work and plus they just did a recent wasteland king where it's easier to get rewards.

[river cape]

I’m in three different state, all closing in 2 years old.
I’ve participated in a lot of Wastelands. I’ve watched a Lot from afar. I’ve been in thick of things, and I’ve been in some so boring I’ve actually gone back to bed!
I’ve faced states that outgunned us, I’ve been part of ‘the mightiest’ state in the match up.
They are never going to be 100% fair. And, honestly, is it fair to match Ichi’s state, or Andrew6666’s, The King’s, or any of the other multi-billion might player’s?
Losing isn’t horrible. The two biggest things are no governor’s boxes to distribute, and no state boosts, other than fast comeback, for two weeks.
Winning isn’t all its cracked up to be either. Sometimes it’s more of a headache than losing would have been.
In the end it’s how you look at it and what you are prepared to do.

[mint fulcrum]

Remember when you’re a young state that there can be consequences for going up too fast in brackets. You have the starter tier for the first few wk, then Bronze (1000-1399 pts), Silver (1400-1799), Gold (1800-2299), Platinum (2300-2999), Diamond(>=3000), and Legend (top 9 from 💎)…. Which bracket are you in?

[storm nebula]

We are in gold but the states we came up against I should have been in diamond

[mint fulcrum]

Why should they be in diamond? There are many states. If you don’t take another hub in diamond you drop 300 pts. Likewise in platinum you loose 200 pts. That goes up 100 points if you can’t secure your own hub. There are many beasts in every tier. If your state is having issues with a tier, try again next week. If you’re still having issues, maybe it’s time to drop down a tier…

[lapis cosmos]

I've learned not to fall asleep straight away any more if i participate in wasteland. We got some strong people but every time i chose to go straight back to bed everything goes insane and I wake up with um alotta troops in the infirmary I couldn't keep up with lol but you 100 percent correct. Wasteland is the most unpredictable thing ever

[river cape]

I normally don’t go straight back to sleep, lol. I get comfortable on my couch and all bets are off, especially when I couldn’t sleep the night before cuz my brain wouldn’t stfu!

[storm nebula]

And this is the real problem because those states with all that might drop down tiers and they go for little states. Why should we have to drop down a tier because they're doing it so that they can bully the smaller states

[mint fulcrum]

But it’s not bullying when it’s what the game matches. It is based on a point system. IMO Developers did not like that states were napping. So they introduced the nataly frags to get states to fight more and be more active. The tiers are reward based. They move up to better rewards if they conquer another state. Just so happens you are the state being conquered to allow them to move up to a better tier.

[storm nebula]

It is bullying because they shouldn't be put up against states so small in the first place, but they're giving the opportunity to bully because they're allowed to drop their tier. They're allowed to go against states that are so much smaller

[river cape]

It’s isn’t bullying when everyone has very viable options.
You can chose to fight for your hub.
You can chose to let someone else have it.
You can chose to try to take another hub.
You can try to NAP. Most states we’ve faced in the last almost two years were very willing to NAP and stuck by the agreement.
The system isn’t perfect.
You can’t please all the people all the time, and I’d say the vast majority are at least content with the way things are right now with Wasteland King.
@lapis cosmos I’m 3 frags away from activating Nataly!

[grave dagger]

Nataly is going to be such a pain to level up 😫

[lapis cosmos]

Whoop whoop I gotta stop sleeping through wasteland and get her plus 2

[livid gazelle]

I'm in an older smaller state and we are frequently the battlefield for the larger states - many of which are much younger. My last few wastelands have lasted the entire time. I've dropped tons of might each one trying to defend my state. It happens, and when it does, you find a way to work through it or just deal with the fact that you won't have boxes or titles and try again the next wasteland. It's the ebb and flow of the game.

However, If your state works together you'd be amazed at what you can accomplish. Just start to practice strategies and plan how much is acceptable losses. If it's a battle you can not win just don't fight. The other states may get bored. Eventually you'll get stronger and more able to compete. And you will see smaller states that you can beat.

[terse jewel]

You really putt a maintenance now ?

[modern kernel]

Log back in now guys

It’s back up

[worn barn]

Meeting the same states every WK can be really boring. Mixing up a little is refreshing, get to meet new people and make friends.

[livid gazelle]

I can't argue at that point. I agree it is very nice to meet new people every week.

[lapis cosmos]

I have to agree. But I did grow fond of some states and got excited when we refaced them . We had the same state once for a whole month or 2 before lol

[solemn stratus]

My state has had the same opponents every wk so far. Except I think the first one. We had 2/3 of the same though lol.

Luckily they've been good with agreeing to a nap. Good thing too because they both have mega whales and they could single-handedly take our hub lol.

[worthy forge]

Hey guys, would anybody know where's the best way to go to better understand how this particular event works or navigate it for someone whose participating for the first time? Should I just youtube this or something? Any kind of pointer would be helpful, thanks.

To get a better understanding* bah typos

[storm nebula]

Why would you think Natalie would be hard to level? Don't you have obsidian? It's the same thing. Same way you leveled him the same level her. She also takes perfect frags so you can also use those on her

[willow verge]

Obsidian is easy to upgrade via Ace. You can only get Nataly frags from WK tier rewards and boxes. She also costs 2X Perfects.

[storm nebula]

I haven't used any perfect frags on her yet, but just like Wali He's the one I want upgraded lol

[willow verge]

Wali is so much easier to upgrade than Nataly thanks to Ace.

[lapis cosmos]

Not everyone wants to kill themselves every wasteland to get her. She's definitely not easy and using double the perfects isn't worth it

[grave dagger]

I mean I try my best to get her frags from WK. But for awhile my perfect frags we’re going to Lady M. But since I’m a fighter I am looking at prioritizing Nataly more.

[lapis cosmos]

I like sleep more than wk😂

[sage spear]

My troops usually start a new union right before WK, so I kill a lot of them to break things up 🤣🤣

[wooden salmon]

Hello 🤗
Wanted to repeat a question because it was not answered above. In our state, several did not get points for killing units on tiles last wk. Is this new? And why?!

[versed hedge]

The own troops which dies dont count on tile hits, only kills counts and if the opponent just have send t1s then it also dont gives points 🫣

[wooden salmon]

Logically one's own dead do not count towards the sacrifice points. But the killing points should count. And that was not the case with T1.

[versed hedge]

Let them check report again and send screenshots of the battle reports then to CS if the opponents were higher then t1s 😊 they can see what went wrong and help with it 😊

[willow verge]

T1 don't score any kill points at all.

[wooden salmon]

Yes and nobody is talking about T1 😂

[willow verge]

I always send T1 to gather so anyone who kills my T1s won't get points so it sounded like you were talking about that. But like Farabella mentioned if you have the battlelogs showing T2+ units being killed but no WK points, you can send them to CS.

[hallow crown]

Just to be sure, were they killing foreign units in tiles? Because in state kill don't count either

[river cape]

It depends on which league you’re in as well. If you’re state is gold, bronze, or pro, you don’t get them as tier rewards or in governor boxes.

[sage spear]

You get Nataly frags in gold

[mint fulcrum]

That’s silver…

Accurate that the first three levels of wk include no nataly frags.

[sage spear]

Silver isnt the same as gold…

[river cape]

Oops. I have hard time recognizing the symbols.

[fresh prairie]

It also says silver above the rewards 😊

[tribal yacht]

Gov. has the option to give people res through coffers. Do they go down to 0 with each wasteland or do they carry over?

[sage spear]

They carry over

[tribal yacht]

Thank you 🙂 is this something new or is this how it’s always been?

[sage spear]

Always been that way.

[spice prairie]

Anyone have a sign up sheet that alliances can you for fighters or mud sitter?

[brittle gazelle]

初めまして、宜しくお願い致します

[river cape]

We’ve always used google.

[spice prairie]

That is what I plan to do. I was just checking to see if anyone had one I could use as template. Thank you.

Ie I'm lazy

[mint fulcrum]

A lot depends on how you plan wk. there are many strategies.

[spice prairie]

Kind of simple right now, fighters and mud sitters

[mint fulcrum]

Laziest way is ask for screen shot of stats, march size, and rally size. There are pins here for mud coordinates. Have signup and give each a coordinate.

[spice prairie]

Sounds good. Thank you.

[sage spear]

Laziest way is just to tell people to show up and go to any building they want 🤣

[mild marsh]

Can someone here answer a question for me??? For state open ( First WLK) how do they determine participating states. I know they are random for the most part, but For the first 1 or 2 do they go 1 up one down or +2/-2???

[livid gazelle]

I don't have a specific answer but basically I believe it's relatively random from states that are in the same grade. The first one is going to put you in the starter grade. Which is absolutely the lowest you can be so it will be states that have opened around the same time as you.

To basically it'll be states going through their first or second wasteland

[white totem]

👀✨

[next hamlet]

Hi friends. If i immigrat on Friday 13h, can i participate in wasteland king on Saturday 10h, or need to wait until Saturday 13h, or can't participate at all?

[mint fulcrum]

You’re good to participate

[quasi wharf]

anyone know/remeber how many ppl it is allowed in the hub when you dont semd full marches?

[mint fulcrum]

Depends on tech tree

[hallow crown]

You can have up to 30

[mint fulcrum]

Full tech tree

[hallow crown]

Yep

[quasi wharf]

thank you

[mossy rock]

Anyone have a good mud defense map?
One that has coordinates for each hq?
Thanks

[sage spear]

Several examples pinned here…

[mossy rock]

only found one and was hoping to find one with a little more detail like i used to have

[quasi wharf]

Do anyone know if attack on youre own state in turrets give the boost comback ?

[hallow crown]

Yes, comeback is given by troops lost in turrets/hub fight, regardless of where

[quasi wharf]

even if it is youre own state ?

in the turret or hub

[willow verge]

Yes. As long as you're losing the units in a turret/hub, it counts. It doesn't matter who's attacking.

[quasi wharf]

thank you

[hasty peak]

Anyone know exactly how the 300% boost cap is determined?

[livid gazelle]

You get points based on what units of yours die. Death counts only when they fully die, go to deep heal, or alliance infirmary. They have to be killed while in a turret or attacking a turret or hub

So anything that ends up in your regular infirmary won't count

[hasty peak]

Thank you Gerber!

[livid gazelle]

Glad to help

[fickle crow]

Does anyone know where I can find a c/p alliance mail regarding mud sitting for noobs?

[livid gazelle]

You can check in #creative-alliance-mail , but I'm not sure if anybody's actually done that

[fickle crow]

Thx, thought is was worth asking

[sage spear]

“If sitting in the mud: BUBBLE BUBBLE BUBBLE!”
There. Made one for you 🤣

[fickle crow]

Lol, they'll find that out on their own... jk

[sage spear]

But if you face my state, don’t send that mail out, ok? 😈🤣

[livid gazelle]

Definitely send that mail out

[fickle crow]

Hahaha, noted

[fickle crow]

Between you and I, I'm definitely sending that mail

[sage spear]

🫣👀🤣

[severe bobcat]

Is it possible to hit other states on the green, I am asking for a friend ? 😂

[lapis cosmos]

No just mud

[severe bobcat]

Other options? I know only mud hit is possible, but some of our players don’t believe .

[lapis cosmos]

Tell them to try their selves when wasteland starts😂 probably the best way to help them believe is by doing so🤣

[mint fulcrum]

Even if base is touching the mud by just a little bit, they’re able to get hit.

[livid gazelle]

I do love when they mess up and accidentally partially park on the mud

[mint fulcrum]

Fun to see the corners on wasteland conquest get smacked

[livid gazelle]

I've done that a couple of times.... I always feel bad though

[regal cave]

do you still get fastcomback if the hub is occupied by another state?

[versed hedge]

Yes, if you dont owe your hub because its occupied by another state fast comeback will get automatically activated

[atomic mural]

If we hold 2 opposition states do we keep our shield?

[white totem]

Yes

[atomic mural]

This was not the case in the past?

[white totem]

1/2 state you keep the shid for your state

[white totem]

I don't understand the question can you explain batter ? Tnx you

[atomic mural]

I have seen previously. Months ago in fact. When you occupy home hub and 1 enemy hub you have a shield. When you occupy a second enemy state at the same time the home shield drops.

[white totem]

I don't know how to express myself because my state hasn't created 2 hubs yet, in the future I could give a concrete answer, but I'm going to the range now to see the occupation rules, maybe I'll find something and I can post

@atomic mural hope can help

[dusky elm]

I remember this, just realised that the rule, where the shield on home hub is cancelled once the home state is occupying 2nd state, is not applicable anymore. Wonder why it's changed without much announcement.

[sage spear]

No, you lose all shields

[atomic mural]

Not anymore. We occupied both opposition and retained home shield

[sage spear]

Probably a glitch. Last WK we took 1 hub and our home hub didn’t shield. You probably just got our missing one 🤣

[atomic mural]

I asked the question b4 we took the second. Proof was provided because 335 held both and 335 home was shielded. I went on an I'm never wrong rant. Which I was 🙃

[white totem]

My state all time when we take another state all time was protect the hub

[sage spear]

Not technically wrong. The rules have always stated the home hub is only shielded when you take 1 other hub but lost when you take 2 other hubs. I’ll look into this more.

[atomic mural]

Thanks Hill

[queen holly]

How do you confirm the Governor what do you press?

[sage spear]

The new Wasteland Icon in the bottom right corner of your screen.

Make sure people arent coming and going from the alliance, and make sure you have a solid internet connection

[queen holly]

Oh thank you

[teal imp]

For some reason I thought you could still attack turrets after someone had occupied for 8 consecutive hours. Is there any way to get some more casualty points if all 3 states are done?

[fresh prairie]

Not casualty.

[teal imp]

=(, what would be the best way to get some more points out of the remaining time?

[fresh prairie]

Tile hits. You need kills now

[teal imp]

Thanks!

[sage spear]

You can kills and casualties (but not fastcomeback room) from tile hits. Casualties don’t happen until your main infirmary is full though

[quasi wharf]

Anyone know what happens if you loose youre hub, but take another?

[teal imp]

Thanks! I was in a tower for 8 hours, how do people usually get in their mass T1 casualties if they're in tower/hub duty?

[sage spear]

Before WK

Or by sending out to rss spots while in a turret.

[teal imp]

Ahh, that makes sense. So either just speed suicide some T1s before you jump in towers or sacrifice on rss tiles.

Thanks @sage spear !

[quasi wharf]

@sage spear you know?

[sage spear]

No one has ever admitted to it happening.
In theory, you will get coffers added to your state (that you cannot distribute until next time you secure your hub), and wont get any boxes or titles and the only boost will be the automatic Fastcomeback.

[quasi wharf]

thank you

[crimson void]

What is the fast come back rule? If you activate it before the end of WK, do the troops you lose after it is activated still show up? Also, do troops sent to deep healing figure into the fast comeback total?

[sage spear]

Yes, it continues to accumulate after activation. Any troops that Die, or go to Deep Healing, or Alliance infirmary durint Turret/Hub attacks count. (Not turret rocket fire)

[crimson void]

Thank you

[bright lagoon]

Hello to all,

Is there a list of states that do not respect the NAPs?

Thank you in advance

[solemn stratus]

No. State affairs should be kept in personal state discords.

[bright lagoon]

Ok thanks… just asked…

But it was naps between state in wasteland king

[livid gazelle]

Still private affairs

It used to be allowed but devolved into name calling and things that are against the rules here.

[bright lagoon]

Thank you, i didn’t know that…

[inner sable]

This is basically the Disney channel nowadays. Used to be wild here….Fun stuff to read even

[livid gazelle]

That's what personal discords are for

[glad seal]

Hallo, könnt ihr mir helfen? Weiß jemand wie man den Gouverneurs Posten weiter geben kann?

[livid gazelle]

Sie haben 2 Stunden Zeit, nachdem Sie Ihren Staat gesichert haben, um jemandem das Gouverneursamt zuzuweisen. der R5 der siegreichen Allianz kann es zuweisen. Wenn es bereits zugewiesen wurde, können Sie es nicht ändern.

[mint fulcrum]

#📚sanctuary-rules number 6

[white totem]

Can you use diamonds to speed up a rally attack in Wk?

Or to speed up any attacks on turrets or hub, I seem to remember not being able to…could be wrong 😑

[sage spear]

Not rallies. Just solo marches.

[white totem]

Ok, thank you!

[wind mason]

Okay
Question
Is it basically t10 up that get comeback for WK

[hallow crown]

Nope, any tiers can get comeback from WK as long as they die fighting in turret/hub

[wind mason]

Thought so
Think you

[solemn stratus]

And this

[knotty abyss]

Can I please get a official answer on this, separate from whatever I or others might say I just was a official to respond and confirm or deny this please and thank you.

Are WLK based on Your rank randomly with others who are of the same rank?

As in Gold rank will face states who have acquired enough trophies to be gold rank and matched with others int hat rank randomly, and Bronze rank will be matched to the few who have repeatedly lost enough to be pushed down to that rank again randomly within the rank?

I just need a clear response about this please.

@stone bison@broken flare@ashen steppe