👑wasteland-king

[lyric warren]

Fast comeback is 1.5x might loss? I don't remember.

[sage spear]

1.2

[lyric warren]

Thanks.

[turbid orchid]

obtuve una respuesta similar 😓😥😰pero, ahora me preocupa que pase lo mismo si compro algun paquete

[woeful dock]

all 300k counts if your infirmary is full

[atomic sierra]

Question when you super reinforced turrets and hub your stats apply right but if you have a mixture in the hub of rider shooters and fighters what is the best way to accomplish the use over everyone

[livid gazelle]

We usually have the lead for the mixed group as someone who has stats pretty good for all that are involved. So we use more rounded player

[still kernel]

We have a list of who prefers what that we repost just before wasteland starts. So for me, I prefer shooters and fighters even though my riders aren’t atrocious. We have a good mix among everyone who leads towers and the hub so it works out.

Some beasts say “any.”

[livid gazelle]

I'm a dirty rider lead

[fresh prairie]

Lol sounds like me

I only lead because I can’t stand when our 40 leads lol

[livid gazelle]

I'm working on my fighters while I save what I need to up my rider chip

[fresh prairie]

Going for the 10 star?

[livid gazelle]

Try 9

[lapis cosmos]

Sounds like a lot

[fresh prairie]

Ah I fail at Enchaning

I have 9s

[lapis cosmos]

Mine look so tiny compared to that👀

[fresh prairie]

Lol.

[livid gazelle]

This is where I spend all my ruins at

Also we're going off topic

[lapis cosmos]

Im still working on my first triple red 😤

Oh yeah i commited to wasteland this week👀😂

[fresh prairie]

What’s the mean?

I commit every time lol

[sage spear]

I wish we hadnt dropped ranks for WK. Miss the perfect frags

[lapis cosmos]

I sleep through 99 percent of wastelands

I have commitment issues with the time😂

[fresh prairie]

Ah I wish we were Diamond league. The 40s….scared haha

[sage spear]

I think you have issues with time in general 🤣

[fresh prairie]

It’s only 6am.

[lapis cosmos]

Only 6am I'm on like a really weird schedule with sleep now 😂

[fresh prairie]

I’m at work lol

When it starts

[lapis cosmos]

My partner switched to a night shift and it screw up where i could make every wasteland🤣 I hate adjusting to others sleep schedules

[sage spear]

Ah, just kick them 😈

[lapis cosmos]

🤣😂

[livid gazelle]

Apparently hate myself and volunteer every week I would be over a billion might by now if I didn't

But I'm pretty sure I've subscribed to the hillside rules of engagement

[lapis cosmos]

I cannot make every wasteland 😂

I do though occasionally if there's a nap involved get invited over for points when I wake up😂

[livid gazelle]

I usually get picked to sit in something or lead. But my March is smaller than most of the people and they use so I don't think I'll get picked for lead very much anymore

[lapis cosmos]

I have small rally and small march size so I'm always a filler

[sage spear]

My rally size is useless for WK

[livid gazelle]

My rally is decent.

2,020,000 plus my march

[lapis cosmos]

Only 1.4m is what I offer🤣

[fresh prairie]

1.9m

[echo edge]

How is your rally size so big? Agent X? Plasma Scanner?

[lapis cosmos]

Research too and I think Hal of war as well

[fading prairie]

--WASTELAND KING--
Basic Rules & Trophy Breakdown (Updated Sept 2022)
States are matched by Grade. Not by might or HQ levels.

NEW STATES will compete in a STARTER GRADE along with other starter states for their 1st and 2nd Wasteland King before being matched by their grade level.

HOW-TO-WIN
Consecutively holding it for 8 hours straight.
— or —
Maximum holding time by the end of the event.
If it’s been switching occupations throughout the event, the state that holds it the highest total # of hours wins. If a state can hold the hub for 8 consecutive hours, they can still win even if you’ve held it the longest. Consecutive 8 hour hold overrules maximum total hours held.

SHIELD YO' HUB
Occupy another hub.
Home state hub will remain under a shield as long as you occupy another hub.
— or —
Reclaim home state hub.
If your state hub was occupied by another state, winning it back will keep your state hub under a shield for 30 minutes. Shield will not protect the hub from turret attacks.

DID YOU LOSE YOUR STATE HUB?
• Fast Comeback automatically starts
• No state boosts, no titles, and no Governor's Award boxes until your state secures your home state hub in an upcoming Wasteland King.
• All taxed resources goes to foreign state's coffers.
• Foreign state cannot initiate state boosts or control taxes, but they will get your home state's Governor's Awards to give to their players.

---

ALLIANCE SHOWDOWN
Players can switch alliances during Alliance Showdown. You will need to complete your ongoing quest before switching otherwise it will count as a failed quest. Return to your alliance before the end of the reward period to claim rewards.

ALLIANCE CONQUEST
Players can switch alliances during Alliance Conquest. You will need to be in your alliance during the preparation stage, but able to switch alliances during the competition stage and return to your home alliance before the reward stage.

---

[livid gazelle]

Agent X and boosts with weapons.

[livid gazelle]

You are awesome!

[oblique bane]

Does this mean there will be 4 states competing now?

[fading prairie]

No. There have been some occurrences where stares only go against one or up to three states.

The chart just shows what happens if you do happen to up against three states.

[cinder patrol]

It's been happening since the states in the 200s started appearing

[still kernel]

I have yet to see this mythical 4 way wk. it would be wild!

[sage spear]

I have. Also seen 2 way

[fresh prairie]

Sounds….interesting

[cinder patrol]

Ours was not wild in any way. It was incredibly boring.

[silk matrix]

Mostly happen in new region

[tropic socket]

is there a change to this upcoming Wasteland King? I know you got casualty points in the past, but not sure if that is no longer a thing.

[dusky elm]

Don't think there's any change - just that there are two different things:

1. Phase & Top 50 ranking (in-state only) - casualty, kill and occupation
2. Individual points (global, also where you acquire Nataly frags in Gold league and above) - kill and occupation only

[high dragon]

Did we get this though. Seems not 1 might is still 1 casualty points.

[dusky elm]

Hm, now that you pointed it out, I didn't see that reflected in casualty event - gaining points depends on no. of units... Other areas seem fine. Probably another poorly worded patch notes?

[cinder patrol]

There has been no change since last WK.

[orchid belfry]

This is awesome! Thanks

[paper coral]

I have an important question: Can the R5 of the WK host alliance appoint any player in state as governor. Or does the governor HAVE to be a member of the host alliance.

[fresh prairie]

Have to be in the alliance of the winning alliance

[cinder patrol]

They must be in the alliance to be appointed. But once appointed they can go back to their own alliance.

[white totem]

Hi

[autumn escarp]

Natalie is very very bitchy girl She is sent from the game creator to stop NAP culture in Zenith and to create huge drama in states.

[fresh prairie]

Say what.

😂😂

[lapis cosmos]

Wellll it is a war game🤷‍♀️ 😂

[sullen lark]

It’s terrible!

[lapis cosmos]

We got only 1 state this is weirder than when we had 4 👀😂

[formal gale]

Amazing matchup today

S11 x S67 x S404

[mighty forge]

Hello guys, I am in another state but can not attack anybody, when I can attack?

[fresh prairie]

You can attack turrets and hubs this week. Next weekend you can burn them all.

Also can attack anything in the mud

[mighty forge]

Thank you

[sage spear]

I love making friends in WK😈🤣

[heady pawn]

How long does the shield on your hub last when you have taken the hub from another state??

[fading prairie]

Til you vacate the other hub or they take it back.

[cinder patrol]

Or if you take the other hub as well

Like the third state’s

[heady pawn]

so if we have the hub of a 3rd state we lose the shield on our home state?

[cinder patrol]

Yes

[sullen lark]

I will never cease to be amazed by the people who still don’t know how this event is played, but are extremely confident in their wrongness. We’ve got a guy that wants people to attack his troops on a tile, he’s upset because no one wants to kill his T1 troops. He was informed that it grants no points, he said “you get kill points” 🤡 Ummm no, sir, I don’t. Next please!

[merry mason]

Where is the list of what turrets to go to?

[sage spear]

Lol. I’ll kill t1s mostly out of spite. And so it looks nice and clean and I don’t get annoyed at seeing those occupied tiles. But yeah, the cmdr EXP from t1s sucks 🤣

[sage spear]

I think you are looking for your state chat 🤣

[spiral glacier]

Ok dumb question, if you have all theee states and no one to kill, do you get points for the 300 boost if you attack your own state in another state

Turrets and hub

Casualty

[white totem]

It’s probably been said, but where can we can complain about these pairings? This is the worst matching I’ve seen in this game. We are against players who can take our state by themselves , let alone as a group.

[sage spear]

It happens. Pairings are not supposed to be fair.

[sage spear]

Yes, you get casualties for any attacks on turrets or hubs, regardless of which state you do it in.

[white totem]

I know and I get changing it up with the upgrade, but there’s got to be something wrong still with the algorithm to be this bad. The last time it came close to this bad was over a year ago in a different state.

[sage spear]

Not really. It is what it is. Some weeks better. Some weeks not. You take a loss, have some fun, and prepare for the next week.

[white totem]

I’m on page that WK was getting boring the way it was being player, but the slaughter pairing is another story.

Not quite- 404 is matched with 11 and 67, I haven’t seen newer states paired with states this old since the last MAJOR algorithm change they did last year. Another state I know only has one pairing.

[graceful canyon]

It depends on leagues. Doesn't matter newer states or not, if they took hubs and bumped leagues they'll be pitted against states that have done the same. State age is no factor.. there are some under populated older states that would have no chance against newer ones.

[sage spear]

404 isnt a new state. And state age is meaningless. There are more dead states in the low number than in the high numbers.

[white totem]

I don’t want to argue, I’ve been around awhile. S404 is far newer than S11.

[graceful canyon]

Pairings won't always be ideal at all. Plus with new update, there will be more states dropping and rising in leagues as holding your hub alone still means you lose a few points.

[white totem]

And we haven’t taken hubs and barely kept it the last time. It is what is it, I get it

[graceful canyon]

And what's your point? State age does not factor. It's already been stated many times, every time someone complains about an upset. Facts are, unless you're in a super alliance state, there is always a chance you get a pairing you cannot battle your way out of. We all get a turn at losing hub eventually.

[white totem]

But I’ve also been playing long enough to see how it works. My former state we never lost our hub and never came close to pairings like this.

[graceful canyon]

Last update changed things a bit though.

[white totem]

I know.

I’m not trying to argue and your tone is not appreciated.

[sage spear]

But you are arguing. The facts have been stated already and you don’t want to listen to them

[graceful canyon]

Not trying to be rude but seems as though you're not going to be satisfied with any answers given 😂😂 you've been informed and unhappy, cannot help that.

[white totem]

Ugh. I’m not asking for anyone to come to our aide or anything like that. I am asking for where I can go to log a complaint. Sometimes developers appreciate that sort of feedback for future improvements. For now, it is what it is and I don’t need people telling me that.

[graceful canyon]

I got T1s currently camped out and waiting on a timer myself, probably a loss today. Happens.. we've been paired with newer states, older states, states with barely a 35 and some with multiple 40s. None of it is perfect but we do what we can until we gotta call it.

[white totem]

Ugh- i don’t need to be informed in what I already know.

[graceful canyon]

Then utilize in game feedback since you don't know that.

[fresh prairie]

#💭closed-game-suggestions

[white totem]

Thank you being helpful!

I typically avoid discord for just these sort if interactions.

[golden dagger]

Anyone know how these match ups are made?

[cinder patrol]

If you tap on the ! In wasteland king event it shows you. It’s by grade and points.

It’s also pinned to this channel

[golden dagger]

It seems like the older states could just purposely lose their previous matches and get paired with the younger states

[cinder patrol]

They could. But not all young states are weak. And the youngest of states won’t face older states anyway because they start in the starter league.

Most of us are in gold, platinum, and Diamond.

And gold is least likely of the three

[golden dagger]

I’m in 522 we got matched with 524 and 230. Of course 230 is over powering both states

[cinder patrol]

They matched based on their grade. So it could be they lost on purpose. It could be they just faced hard opponents and kept losing.

[golden oracle]

Older states aren't necessarily stronger. Often the older a state is, the more deserted it becomes. Unless of course whole alliances immigrate.

[cinder patrol]

Plenty of heavily populated older states but there are some states that lose on purpose. But most don’t try to lose on purpose multiple times in a row. A few do. 230 could be one of them, or they could not be. I don’t know their history other than they went for a long stretch without a governor.

Seems like they’re trying to lose as they’ve occupied the towers but not their hub

522 will win based on time if they don’t go back

[sterile spade]

Does the shield on home hub still drop when you take all 3?

[golden dagger]

Yes I hope so. It seems they purposely don’t occupy their hub to be ranked in a lower grade. We will be easy pickings come VC 😂

[cinder patrol]

Yes

[gritty inlet]

How can someone be appointed as Governor after Wasteland King? As in which menu or button.

[sterile spade]

Is there a time limit for it to drop?

Because this state had all 3 hubs for 2 minutes and it never fell.

[cinder patrol]

Could be a bug. But it should be immediate unless it was changed last update without notice.

[spiral glacier]

I heard it was changed

[tawny epoch]

Hello, I have a question. So I know that unless you occupy another state's hub you go down and rank now. But my question is how quickly does that happen? I know my State already went down a tier but is it two wasteland Kings worth of not occupying or is it a percentage?

And also is there a determined amount of time you must occupy in order to not drop?

[sterile spade]

You have to capture the hub for it not to drop.

[tawny epoch]

But like can you just capture then leave? Or does I have to be a certain amount of time

I see now you degrade a certain amount of points if you don't occupy

[sterile spade]

No. You can’t leave. You have to take it for the full 8 hours.

[tawny epoch]

Oh wow so full occupation or you lose points no matter what?

[sterile spade]

Yeah. As for how fast, I believe that depends on your ranking.

[tawny epoch]

Ok ty!

[mint carbon]

Question about event points

I have players hitting turrets with 10s in opposing state and their points are not going up. What are we missing

[lapis cosmos]

Is there t1s in the turrets👀

[mint carbon]

Possibly. But wouldn’t u still get casualty points?

On ur own 10s?

Im asking about 1s atm tho

That’s the turret.

Player is sending 60-100k t10s bikes and trucks. No point increase

[lapis cosmos]

Hmmmm weird... I ask t1s for kills not going up so I was just curious. Yes your points should go up with casualties I didn't notice as much changes once all the phases were completed tbh. But im a airhead and don't focus I slept through half the attacks lol

[craggy skiff]

is your own hub secured and they are trying to get casualty points in an opposing state?

[mint carbon]

I hit the turret and mine went up.

[craggy skiff]

that may be the reason possibly

[mint carbon]

I’m confused bc I got points. They didn’t

I even made him send me his infirmary bc I didn’t believe he wasn’t sending 1s

Bc no one sleeps lol and 1 and 10 are so similar

[lapis cosmos]

Yeah my head went to t1s too

I was like ummmmnm

[civic basin]

I was sending 100k t10 bikes to the tower nun posted above and my points did not move

[lapis cosmos]

That's weird and very strange

[mint carbon]

I feel like I’m missing something. But I don’t know what.

[lapis cosmos]

Definitely get some screenshots of the attacks and injuries and tier types

[civic basin]

I got them I was fixed to post

[mint carbon]

I would send to cs too

[civic basin]

This point before I hit

[craggy skiff]

the same thing happened to me last week. I was only able to get casualty points from turrets before my own hub was secured. after that it didn't work. But i cant find the description explaining how casualty works 🤷‍♂️

[civic basin]

Points after I hit

[mint carbon]

So maybe my points were from kills?

[craggy skiff]

yes you can still get kill points

[mint carbon]

I wiped out my 50k so I can’t see if any of theirs died but I sent trucks. So. Yay for vehicles?

[craggy skiff]

well we are either missing something or its a bug, maybe a mod will know 😂

casualty from tile attacks should still work

[mint carbon]

I’m missing something I know I am. But what

[fresh prairie]

Who holds the tower. Your state or the others

[mint carbon]

That makes no sense lol

[narrow frigate]

50k strong af t11s trucks nun😉😏

[mint carbon]

Others

We are state A. We closed.
State B closed.
State B took state C and has 90 minutes left to close. We are in C

[craggy skiff]

i got full casualty and kill points just from tile attacks, its the fastest way for me lol

[fresh prairie]

Okay. Because if you hit anyone from your state. You don’t get kills. Even if it’s in another state

[mint carbon]

I guess I don’t know why casualty would work on a tile hit but openly hitting a turret won’t

[craggy skiff]

ya it makes no sense but it works is all im saying

[craggy skiff]

but you should still get casualty points from hitting own state?

[fresh prairie]

Yes. Casualty you do.

[craggy skiff]

anyways they are hitting other states and getting no points, its strange

[fresh prairie]

But casualty points don’t go towards personal points

[craggy skiff]

ohh is that why. That makes alot more sense now...

@mint carbon see what kazumi said

[fresh prairie]

Only kills go towards personal. And there’s a limit on occupancy points

[mint carbon]

@narrow frigate

[mint carbon]

And that’s what I’m missing

[narrow frigate]

Kills

[mint carbon]

Thank you Kazumi

[narrow frigate]

So I’m not killing enough. Just dying ?

[mint carbon]

Yeah

[craggy skiff]

so casualty only good for fast comeback then

[fresh prairie]

Yes.

[mint carbon]

And ur minimum points in the sub rewards

I’m usually passing out leading a turret. So I’ve never looked at post close point totals like this. Thank you

[fresh prairie]

So it should equal your kill rank. +2.6m for occupy

[narrow frigate]

So ur 11 trucks made some kills and got you some points but my 100k 10 trucks and lower March types (minus my main) aren’t making a dent

And hence getting any points

Tile hits are getting points now

[fresh prairie]

This is not new

[mint carbon]

New to him cuz he killed a lot of trucks on turrets today 😂

[sage spear]

If you click on the green To obtain points it tells you exactly what counts

[dapper vine]

I accidentally quit my alliance in another state, now I can’t rejoin or go home. Any tips?

[livid gazelle]

I don't have an answer at this time however I do remember doing something similar in my first wasteland King. Eventually I was able to make it home. Have you gone into the event and just clicked back? It will be on this screen near the attack buttons

[fading prairie]

#🦗bug-hunt message

Someone had the same issue earlier today. Here is the solution.

[dapper vine]

Thanks that worked!

[fading prairie]

Yay!! Glad that it did and I remembered where it was posted 🤣

[dusty grove]

When occupied the other state cant just fly in except valiant right

[fresh prairie]

Right.

[dusty grove]

Good somebody said that and I panicked but had never heard of that

Like said they could come in whenever they wanted

[sage spear]

Only if they immigrated like any other player. Then they are stuck there for 30 days.

[dusty grove]

Yeah thats what I thought. I for one welcome our new state overlords then 😅

[sage spear]

🤣🤣

[sinful tendon]

Do we get back all the troops that were killed during WK like VC? How does it work?

[sage spear]

Nope. You do get to take advantage of the fast comeback for eligible troop loss though.

[sinful tendon]

Okk thank you!

[sterile spade]

If we default to gov because of the occupation time, do I still get to pick gov or do I need to give them R5?

[sage spear]

Doesn’t matter how you secure your hub. Assigning the governor is the same.

[atomic mural]

Would be nice to have casualties count for more than just fast comeback.

[lapis cosmos]

Idk that fast comeback is pretty worth it imo👀

[livid gazelle]

I am so scared to see what mine's going to be this week

[lapis cosmos]

I saw mine and can say it's a lot less than I expected😂

3,917,280 is what I lost

[livid gazelle]

We haven't secured yet

[copper leaf]

If I go out and RSS in the mud and get attacked do I get a training bonus and points for the event?

[sage spear]

You can get kills and casualties, but no fast comeback

Casualties requires your infirmaries to be full and your troops to die (into deep healing or alliance infimary)

[lapis cosmos]

My state secured both states in our fight today

[fresh prairie]

My state is playing games .

[sage spear]

We had a boring game of lets all keep our hubs and not really do anything 😞

[fresh prairie]

Both states made accounts in opposite states. And are fighting over who doesn’t want the hub

[sage spear]

I’ve seen that battle 🤣🤣

[atomic mural]

My casualties is 97m so yeah

[sage spear]

Lol. This was my cheapest frame in a long time. I’m still grumpy we dropped leagues and I don’t get perfect frags too this week, but at least it was reasonable

[lapis cosmos]

We only faced one state today which was weird

But lots got all points or close

[atomic mural]

The whole dropping states for not holding while not changing anything else is stupid to be honest.

That happened to 430 too Blue

[fresh prairie]

Less naps I think is the goal

[atomic mural]

Gold tier gonna be stacked 😂

[river cape]

I thought my 23 mil was bad!
Or good, depending on how you look at it.

[atomic mural]

You had a better plan than me obviously. 😂

[boreal berry]

How to get kill point fast

I only stay on turret

And do nothing

[pliant apex]

@sage spear got a weird one...I was in a foreign state, quit my alliance and now I'm unable to return to my original state without joining an alliance...the list of alliances to join is from the foreign state! It's like the games been tricked into changing my home state

Guess I'll just wait till end of event...

Is this a known bug

[versed hedge]

Ask one from your original state to port next to you in the other state and join the alliance of that one

[fresh prairie]

Attack tiles and hqs rhat are in the mud.

[versed hedge]

You need to join alliance by someone who is in the same state with you from your original state... so you need to click one who ports in the other state, click on his profile and alliance and on joining alliance

[pliant apex]

I mean that is a terrible design but thank you!

[versed hedge]

It is agree to it 😅

We had yesterday also one with same issues in our alliance, lucky one from us knew the answer, because she had that before also 😅

[cinder patrol]

We were going to but didn’t want to be in legend so we took one only.

[cinder patrol]

It happened to me before. The game knows you’re from another state but since you’re physically on another map it’s going to make you return to an alliance in your state first. If I had to guess it is probably to prevent any loopholes of people moving states during WK permanently. It’s clunky in its design and explained nowhere but what else do you expect 😂 very on track with everything else in the game

[white totem]

Hello. I have a question. i am the leader of my alliance and we won wasteland this week, but i wanted to give the governor tittle to another player. I saw after two hours my account was automatically declared governor. Is this normal ? Can i do anything to reverse it ?

[fresh prairie]

Yes normal. Can’t reverse it. You have 2 hours to give the governor out.

[white totem]

Thank you for your reply

[shut blade]

If we win another states hub do we get to set its Governor or just use its boxes?

[cinder patrol]

Boxes only. They won’t have a governor.

[dawn prairie]

Ok I have a question, are the rules not updated? I’m trying to understand the math on this. We were at 2900 trophies. We kept our hub. We went down -200. According to the rules shown, we get 500 for keeping. We did reset another hub, but we let them keep it. I mean I’m glad we went down, but trying to figure out what I’m missing here so we can prepare in the future.

Or does occupying our own not count towards 1 zenith tech hub occupied?

[sage spear]

Occupy means Take completely. Your own hub doesn’t count for the other points. See the chart pinned to this channel for a better explanation

[dawn prairie]

Ok one more question. So let’s say you lose your hub, but you take another. You go up still 200 points trophies wise. Since the other state gets your boxes, and you get theirs the boxes would be a wash? But you would lose out on titles and being able to change the bulletin (which btw is dumb). And both state would get each other’s taxes instead? Is this right?

[cinder patrol]

You wouldn’t be able to give their boxes away because you have no governor.

We haven’t had anyone in here who has taken a hub but lost their own so it’s hard to say.

[dawn prairie]

Basic state functions when no gov should fall to might leader. Like the state gate does. Bulletin should fall under that too. (Sorry I know it’s a suggestion)

[cinder patrol]

Then what’s the pitfall of losing

There has to be something that happens when you lose that’s negative

[dawn prairie]

Yeah but then why get trophies for losing? 😂

Sorry I’m not arguing. I agree

[cinder patrol]

You don’t. You lose them.

[dawn prairie]

Just seems weird

[cinder patrol]

In the lower grades you gain points for occupying only your own hub

When it says “no hub” they mean your own

It’s stupid but that’s the only time you don’t lose points

[dawn prairie]

The chart for plat says if you lose your hub but take one you get 200 points. It’s under the example.

[cinder patrol]

Yes. I guess you’ve technically not lost under those rules. You still occupied a hub, just wasn’t your own. But the general rule of thumb has always been to occupy your own over someone else’s.

[dawn prairie]

Yeah I agree just trying to see if there is a benefit to swapping hubs with another state.

[lapis cosmos]

There was only 1 state for them to take. So wasn't easy we all down lots of troops lol

[white totem]

The issue there is that you don’t get the usual rewards, boosts and title boosts if you do that. Still have coffers but that’s about it. Not really any up side

Our wlk was boring and annoying because people wanted to give up our hub to drop a rank…..

[livid gazelle]

Meanwhile ours was too exciting because one of the states wants back in diamond

[river cape]

Ours was frustrating. One state wanted to go back up, so wouldn’t give our hub back, and we didn’t have the combined might to take it back forcibly.

[livid gazelle]

Sounds similar to ours except we were the state they left alone

And if they wanted to they probably could have taken both of us

[lapis cosmos]

That sounds no fun

[livid gazelle]

It wasn't.

[mellow granite]

Quick question. If a state loses their WK then raiding RSS has taxes on it. Is that correct?

[lapis cosmos]

Yes

30 percent

[mellow granite]

And if we win our state WK then no taxes on RSS at all?

[lapis cosmos]

Nope

[mellow granite]

From raiding I mean

[lapis cosmos]

Your always gonna have taxes

That's why after a certain point some don't recommend raiding your farms

[mellow granite]

So wait is there any difference on raiding RSS taxes whether you win or lose?

[fading prairie]

Taxes will always get deducted.

If you lose your hub, the other state just gets those taxed rss into their coffers.
Otherwise, all other taxed RSS vanishes.

[lapis cosmos]

I call them abyss taxes lol

[graceful crown]

Where did you get the layout? Do you have a blank one?

[cinder patrol]

No. I had it saved from someone else for a long time.

[graceful crown]

Ok, thanks anyways

[buoyant ibex]

Question about fast comeback. Do losses from hits by your own state in turrets count for that?

[high dragon]

Well the decree does say excluding casualties caused by Turret attacks so yeah, doesn't matter own state or enemy state.

[cinder patrol]

Any deaths from turret fire don’t count. Doesn’t matter who was in the turret. It’s any hit at all.

[buoyant ibex]

Not turret fire. If you are in a turret and someone else from your state hits your turret.

[livid gazelle]

Has to be foreign units for kill points but I'm not sure of casualties

[high dragon]

in that case, it counts for fast comeback. fast comeback affect zenith too.

[brave pier]

Where it went my feast?!? 😳😳

[cinder patrol]

Kills have to be foreign to count. So don’t think it counts for fc but maybe @fast slate knows he always hits someone in state lol

[sage spear]

Fast comeback doesn’t care in or out of state hits. It all counts. Only kills has to be foreign troops.

[fast slate]

I hit our own state in a turret but didn’t get credit… but that may have been related to kills vs injured…🤷🏻‍♂️

[buoyant ibex]

I know personal points come from only killing foreign units. I guess this calls for an experiment!

[livid gazelle]

Experiments are fantastic. I'd love to see what the results are

[buoyant ibex]

I will post them after next WK. 😊

[sage spear]

You definitely get casualties from in state hits.

[buoyant ibex]

I get casualties just opening my game 😂😂😂 I will yeet my troops at anything.

[sage spear]

Yeah, um… I know “nothing” about making my troops die 😈🔥🤣

[livid gazelle]

Pretty sure you have a PhD in troop death at this point

[sage spear]

Lol. Yeah, but they love it now. I keep getting more troops showing up ready to go 😂

[shut blade]

So last WK my state (platinum grade) held our hub and took one hub. We got 500 points total is that because points are only deducted if invaders take your hub? And since we kept it we got 0 pts for that? Just checking my understanding

[fresh prairie]

There’s a long post about in the pins. 500 is because you too someone else’s and kept yours it looks like. But read up. I might have read it wrong

[shut blade]

This makes it seem like we should have ended up with 300 though, or am I reading that wrong? #👑wasteland-king message

[fresh prairie]

That’s why I had you read it. 😂 I might be reading wrong

[shut blade]

Lol I read it first (before I posted) and am now confused with the specific application to my example so 😵‍💫🤷‍♂️

[dusky elm]

ICYMI, the last maintenance included changes to the WK grading system (same maintenance as the rollout of the three new heroes - Nataly, Wali, Lora & Jessie). The change is that states in Platinum will lose 200 points for holding their home hub. I guess that meant 350 (-200+500) in your case.

[dusky elm]

Hm, I think the calculation example here in the pinned chart is wrong in the terms of calculating. It was 500 points for taking a foreign hub and holding down the home hub in Gold grade for my state. Same case for another state in Platinum so I think the deduction for holding down home hub only applies when you're holding down home hub only.

[shut blade]

Didn’t miss it, but that’s why I am confused. We held our home hub (-200 pts) and took one other hub (+500 pts) so we should have ended up with +300 net at the end but we ended up with +500, hence the confusion

[dusky elm]

It appears that the calculation example in the pinned chart is wrong! I've cross-checked to two states as references so I think it's safe to ignore those calculation example and refer to the table instead.

[shut blade]

I was only focusing on the table lol. Just reading the table we should have gotten 300 points, or am I misreading?

[patent coral]

It's -200 if you only hold your own hub. It doesn't effect the scores for your own +1 or more.

It's not a deduction

[shut blade]

So the “AND” needs to be removed

[dusky elm]

Okay, let me summarise - the current grading system depends on these specific 5 scenarios [points are for Platinum league]:

1. You secured home hub only [-200]
2. You lost home hub [-300]
3. You secured home hub AND took 1 foreign hub [+500]
4. You secured home hub AND 2 foreign hubs [+800]
5. You secured home hub AND 3 foreign hubs (happens when you're matched up with 3 states) [+1200]
   I'm not sure where the illustrated calculation in the pinned chart comes from but this is my understanding coming from a state holding home hub only and then taking a foreign hub in addition. I can't speak much about the side of losing home hub and taking foreign hub.

[shut blade]

Thank you both I think I follow now. Thanks for talking it through!

[patent coral]

No problem. HeeHee did a good summary.

The chart is a bit simplified so it does appear like you add them together but that's not the case

[dusky elm]

The chart added the "Example" calculation hence our confusion earlier! Glad to hear it's all sorted now.

[buoyant ibex]

I feel like this all “Whose Line” it’s all made up and the points don’t matter.

[livid gazelle]

That's how I felt about lairs for a while

[buoyant ibex]

Nothing like lair math to make you question existence

[river cape]

And sanity!

[errant crow]

amen.

[idle wadi]

I have only one question. If I take my home state zenith hub during wasteland after the event I will be the new governor correct?

I was played and tricked into taking zenith for another alliance during the zenith war on a promise that government would rotate but then was told the same alliance will be taking over hub again for wasteland, and that zenith only happens one time of course I am number one in the state and the strongest so I will be taking it this time. Just wanted a clear answer

[cinder patrol]

Zenith happens twice, then it’s wasteland king. You’ll be governor if you’re the R5 of the alliance with the longest occupation time or 8 hours straight. If you’re R5 you would appoint yourself. If you’re not R5, the R5 would have to appoint you governor within 2 hours of winning.

[idle wadi]

Awesome thanks that’s all I needed too know

[onyx raft]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/803653235617431572/1016999656011616296/WastelandKing-byKato-Sept22.jpg

[sage spear]

Why are you reposting the pinned chart?

[cinder patrol]

You are aware this chart was posted by its creator in this channel, yes?

[fading prairie]

Dang…. That’s a very helpful chart 😱
Thank you for reposting though. 😊

[ashen ember]

I think I just woke up my dogs by cracking up so much 🤣

[upbeat gust]

Silly question - how should I be reading the points in this chart? The examples are a bit confusing to me. E.g. the top right Diamond example says -300 points for securing your own hub + 500 points for taking 1 foreign hub = +350 points. Why isn't it +200? I can see where the -300 and +500 come from in the chart but don't see how you then get to +350 in the end. I assumed if you held your hub and took someone else's it would just be the +500 anyway, but maybe I'm getting it all mixed up...

[ashen ember]

Try that:

Don’t forget that there can be 4 hubs and not just 3.

[upbeat gust]

Thanks! I can see how you get to +350 in the Platinum example above from this chart. I guess my next question is whether the numbers in Kato's graphic is incorrect or if I'm just misinterpreting it as the numbers for when you keep your own hub and when another state takes your hub aren't consistent with the chart you just posted from in-game. The points for taking 1, 2 or 3 hubs all seem to line up though

[cinder patrol]

This one is more up to date

[upbeat gust]

Well in that case I'm lost again. I give up 😂 But thanks anyway

[cinder patrol]

It’s exactly the same just the points are different.

[tulip carbon]

How many diamonds does the super reinforcement cost durning the event ?.

[sage spear]

2000 per time.

[tulip carbon]

Thank you

How long does the super reinforcement last. Sorry. New to this.

[sage spear]

I think it is 2 hours, but I’m not certain. 😬

[tulip carbon]

Ok thank you.

[upbeat gust]

I guess what I still don't get is do you get +350 points or +200 for keeping your hub and taking another if you're in diamond. With the old points system, I get how you get 350 (500 - 150). But with the new points, it doesn't sum up to 350, so my question is should the graphic actually say 200? Or is the answer 350 regardless but with no way of calculating it from the info they provide in game? 🤷‍♂️

[cinder patrol]

I think it should say 200

[weary lichen]

Now I can

Well the other I can’t respond in

[dusky elm]

If you're wondering about the point calculation in the event that your state keeps your home hub AND takes a foreign hub, it's only 500 points.
#👑wasteland-king message

The table in the game info (which is also in the pinned chart) are the final points. The 'Example' calculation in the pinned chart should be ignored

[high dragon]

It's like the extremely rare situation of occupying foreign hub but failing to keep own hub?

[spark mango]

Hi everyone. Just wondering how we can reset or lower our Wasteland Tier..... we lost majority of our strong players and have been left in a Tier that we have no chance of fighting against. Starting to take the fun out of it tbf

[livid gazelle]

You'll have to lose your hub repeatedly until you drop. It's gotten a bit easier than it used to be, but it will still take time

[spark mango]

I don't mind losing a few if there's light at the end lol. Thank you 😊

[livid gazelle]

You're welcome. We're getting smacked around now but eventually you'll meet like sized states

[vestal rivet]

how much damage does 1 turret hit do to troops in the hub?

[livid gazelle]

It's 10% of the troops that are in there for each hit

[vestal rivet]

10%? are you sure? didn't it used to be like 1%?

[livid gazelle]

I thought it was 10%. been a bit since I was in a hub

[cinder patrol]

It’s 10%

[livid gazelle]

Thanks

[green snow]

Sorry, I'm not sure that there is someone already asked and got the answer already or not.

I have a question that why -300 + 500 = 300?

[cinder patrol]

There is no actual equation that happens. It should be 500.

We were in Diamond. We took 1 hub and won ours. It’s just 500 points.

[green snow]

Ok thank you 😁

[vestal rivet]

Is that 10% turret kill rate somewhere in the patch notes? Seems unreasonably high considering those troops in hub just die without even giving points. Also, how often do the turrets fire?

[cinder patrol]

When you have them killed it shows you how many died of how many you had in there. They fire on rounds every 3 minutes.

[vestal rivet]

Got report to share? 🙏

[cinder patrol]

I don’t. Haven’t had any turret fire death in awhile.

[vestal rivet]

I'm pretty sure turret hit used to be 1% so when was it changed to 10%?

[high dragon]

Think it's 1%👀

[lavish oxide]

did this change from this date?

[fickle pine]

Question: if a hub or turret is taken by enemy, do those troops that die count toward fast comeback or are they dead dead?

[fresh prairie]

They are counted towards fastcome back

The only ones that don’t count is when the turret attacks the hub.

Or sanctuary attacks

[fickle pine]

Ok that was my next question..

Sanctuaries can still be hit if from your own state during wk?

I know if enemy state only mud is fair game but what about people in your own state, are they still able to raid like normal?

[fresh prairie]

Yeah. Anyone on your state can still attack you. Invaders cannot unless your in the mud

[fickle pine]

Ok

[livid gazelle]

I don't think it's changed from that. I'll try to confirm but I'm usually in a turret not the hub.

[vestal rivet]

Yes thank you, it would be great to have official numbers for turret rate of fire (how many minutes between each hit) and the damage

[oblique bane]

1% dead and 10 minute timer on the turrets, unless my memory has failed completely

[frank crane]

What is the easiest way to drop ranking in Wasteland?

[spark mango]

Lose your hub a few times..... im currently doing same with my state

[frank crane]

Have you all been occupying the turrets or do you all just not participate at all?

[spark mango]

We have 4 alliances that take a turret each for occupation rewards

[frank crane]

Okay cool thank you

[shut blade]

In terms of the state boosts, can someone confirm whether or not the “Light of Fortune” boost (diamond recharge boost) applies a) only if you secure home hub, b) only if you secure foreign hub, or c) only if you secure home hub AND at least one foreign hub?

[quartz flame]

Current system you drop down from not taking another state.

Until gold tier

[cinder patrol]

You wouldn’t be able to even activate it without holding your own hub. You have to have taken a second hub to use it.

[shut blade]

My understanding was that at silver grade and below you still gain points from securing your state’s hub, regardless of whether you take foreign hubs. I thought you lose the most points at all grades (except Silver) by not securing any hubs (home hub or foreign hubs)?

[cinder patrol]

It starts at gold that you lose points for securing only your own hub

[quartz flame]

Gold is the last tier you loose point for your home hub in

There is a chart in pins

[cinder patrol]

Gold is where you start to lose points

[quartz flame]

I working backwards

[shut blade]

Going back to the OP it might depend on what is meant by “easiest way to drop ranking” - if this means “lose most WK trophies” then would losing both home hub and taking no foreign hubs be the most effective option in all grades Silver and above? Also depends on exactly how many points are needed to drop grades

[quartz flame]

Take hub, go neutral a few times. Then repeat. Most efficient way for gov boxes without going to legend

[shut blade]

I’m trying to understand the training boost and Light of Fortune boosts. Hypothetically assuming a state secures its own hub every WK, training boost should be active practically all the time. And if a state secures its own hub + at least 1 other hub then training boost and Light of Fortune boost should be active practically all the time, yes? (Of course assuming gov activated right after the previous boost ended)

[steel charm]

@livid gazelle - Is there a place to find the shield rules for WK?

[livid gazelle]

Shield rules?

Your hub gains a shield if you hold another states hub. You also gain a shield if you take your hub back but that one only last 30 minutes

[steel charm]

As long as you hold it? I couldn’t remember if there was a timer on that one.

[livid gazelle]

As long as you hold it

[steel charm]

You’re the best! Thanks!

[shut blade]

Anyone able to speak to this?

[fresh prairie]

Both have a cool down timer of 7 days.

Now each I think only have 1 use every two weeks.

So not possible to run it entire time

[shut blade]

I thought it said the CD was 7 days too, hence the confusion

[fresh prairie]

It does say it.

[shut blade]

Lol why have a cool down if it’s 1-time use 🤣

[fresh prairie]

Yeah who knows lol

[cinder patrol]

All the decrees have cool downs

[plucky totem]

Did they change the trophy gains in the grade rules for occupying only your own hub? It seems 1 hub occupation is back to a point gain.

[cinder patrol]

No. 1 hub occupied means you occupied 1 foreign hub. Your own means you lose points.

@plucky totem see this chart

[plucky totem]

So, question about that. It outlines 1 hub, 2, hub and 3 hubs occupied. If you only occupy your own and it counts towers no hub occupied; how does one occupy 3 hubs since that would then be 4 hubs?

[cinder patrol]

Because 4 way WKs are possible

[livid gazelle]

Doesn't happen often

[plucky totem]

Really? I have never seen a 4-way WK before. Is it just a random occurrence if they have an uneven number of states to pair?

[cinder patrol]

If the number of states in a league aren’t evenly divisible by 3

I’ve been in one before

[livid gazelle]

I am going to have a very boring Wasteland today

[plucky totem]

Ahh okay, I see. Interesting. Well, thank you for the clarification!

[cinder patrol]

You could also get a WK with only 1 other state

[plucky totem]

Didn't know of that one either. Ironic if the next time we get a 4-way.

[cinder patrol]

Das what I said 🤣

[lapis cosmos]

I'm tired man and my discord has been glitched it just popped up🤣

[flat hollow]

Ok, so I'm a noob. When attacking in wasteland king, do you lose your troops, or do they go to an infimary?

[golden oracle]

There is no state infirmary. Dead is dead

[flat hollow]

Ok. Thank

[cinder patrol]

They will go to your infirmary but some will automatically die anyway

[frank crane]

So what happens if no one steps foot in the hub of one’s state?

[sullen lark]

Can anyone tell me what happens if a hub goes unoccupied for the entire event?

[sullen lark]

Hey Grunty!!

[frank crane]

Hello Arrah

[cinder patrol]

Never seen it happen where nobody occupied at all for 24 hours for even 1 minute

[livid gazelle]

That is currently occurring with one of the states that we're against

And no one has touched my turret I'm so sad

[sullen lark]

Are you against us? S16

[livid gazelle]

No. 124 lol

We napped early and it's been dead the whole time

[sullen lark]

Oh, sorry. I would’ve come hit your turret if it was.

[livid gazelle]

Thanks

[cinder patrol]

You’ve lost so many troops this weekend will give you time to replenish lol

[livid gazelle]

True

I'm still down 1m riders

[sage spear]

Yeah, I had a few bad tile hits this morning and lost more troops than I budgeted. But got my frame and now bored sitting in a turret to get my occupation points

[livid gazelle]

No frame for me today

[cinder patrol]

Hoping to get this one in legend and then never again 😂

[livid gazelle]

Lol

[sage spear]

I care more about the frags. Platinum frags were way better deal though.

[livid gazelle]

I want those too

[cinder patrol]

I want these perfect frags

[sage spear]

Yeah, I miss the perfect frags 😥

[cinder patrol]

This attack that’s coming is going to hurt but I don’t think it will hurt enough lol

[odd laurel]

For some reason, it feels the Devs have ruined this event

[cinder patrol]

Okay…

It’s the same it’s been for a year, nearly.

[odd laurel]

No. Not this new ranking system.

[lapis cosmos]

We got s8...

[sage spear]

The ranking is just reflective of how the event was meant to be, and how many states have been playing it.

[odd laurel]

I feel like whatever is said, mods will always defend the actions of Developers.

They recently changed the system so you always lose points, no matter what. Which is showing why the ranking is shite now.

It took them two years to reflect on how the event was supposed to be?

[sage spear]

Because more and more states were intentionally wanting to lose too. So it actually reflects how players wanted things too.
And I actually often disagree with how things are changed and state so. But this one is a change to better reflect both the true aspect of the event (fight and dominate), and what players wanted (run away and hide).

[fresh prairie]

They probably got tired of naps

[odd laurel]

We always like to fight but when even in the Gold League, we are paired against many HQ40’s and billion might players.... that’s not fair.

And I don’t want to read a “It’s a wargame”. 🥱 It’s a spender’s game.

[craggy skiff]

i completely disagree. WK is so much more fun now. Unless you are the person who liked full naps with no action then ya might suck. But more people are willing to fight now to get the rewards. Makes the game so much more fun. In terms of you getting matched with stronger states, thats happened in the old system too, so idk what you are on about with the new system, literally nothings changed besides people actually fighting more.

[odd laurel]

Actually, we used to really like fighting so when there was a chance, we would fight.
You cannot fight against HQ40’s unless you want to just kill your troops. That’s a hard fact.

[craggy skiff]

sure, is every single hub and tower being held by a hq40 in all 3 states that u cant fight at all? You might lose you hub cause you are outmatched, doesnt mean u cant fight. Your argument was this "new" system, when the old system had the same issues. Better off saying you think WK has sucked for 2 years now.

[odd laurel]

Nope. Up until a few weeks ago, we were matched with quite reasonable states that wanted some great fighting.

Yes, we’ve had the past 3 or 4 Zeniths where our Hub has been annihilated by HQ40’s. So yes.
You have weak-minded HQ40 spenders that are afraid to fight other HQ40’s so they go for the weakest state of the three.

Before, this was not Zenith. You had good ones, you had bad ones. And I’ve been playing this game for 2 years now.

[lapis cosmos]

I mean but that's how it is. If you can take a state and have a great team behind ya then all means do it. I've seen my state pull off successful takes while guarding our hub. That's what your supposed to do. I've been playing just over a year and I've seen messy ones and I've seen boring ones. Lately I've been seeing decent fighting and less boredom

[livid gazelle]

We were up against a large state last WK. They went for the 2nd strongest state. They kept knocking us out of turrets and the hub to have fun, but we were able to do the same to them since their 40s were hitting the other states. It was a lot of fun. And valiant against them was awesome

[craggy skiff]

so you've been unlucky with the past 1-2 WKs and have been lucky to be paired with states you've stood a chance against in the "old" system. The issue is still the same, just because you were fortunate to be matched fairly matched in the past doesnt mean every other state was. Uneven match ups has always been an issue. There are alot more HQ40's running around these days compared to the past aswell keep in mind. Its rare now that you dont run into states and face a billion might player. People spend more, has nothing to do with the new system.

[odd laurel]

Honey, more and more people are saying the exact same as I am, whether you want to believe it or not.

[lapis cosmos]

We had 1 state last time. My state decided no nap and they took the 1 state but the fighting was beautiful I took a sone casualties. Now we are up against s8 and 1 other which is quite interesting.

Also it you move up too quickly you'll eventually hit a brick wall

[craggy skiff]

And they've been saying it for the past 2 years. And i get the frustration. But like i said, alot more HQ40s running around now. you'll keep facing them, even in gold, maybe have to go to silver for more even match ups if u cant compete in gold

[odd laurel]

Nope. We would be in lower part of Platinum league now if they hadn’t made it that you lose 200 points every time you just hold your state.
But we were bumped down to Gold.

That’s what I’m talking about. You never lost points if you only held your hub. So what’s the point with fighting if you’ll still lose points by holding your hub?

[lapis cosmos]

To keep it fair and less naps plus more fighting. Where have you been? This conversation of speculation has been around for ages. Since it's a war game I am not too shocked they are making it harder to nap. Kinda need to focus on that part a bit more. There was tons of nap city. I see less of it well less of the complete naps

[craggy skiff]

it forces more fighting and less naps. If you want points, go take another state over. If the state is too weak to do it, you lose points. Before people would just sit in hubs/turrets, 3 way NAP deal (only tower attacks with limitations) and you'd be rewarded for it. Not saying every state did it, but most did, thus the change.

[odd laurel]

Yeah, well our state likes to fight but it’s become impossible.
Never mind. It’s like a brickwall at this point.

[cinder patrol]

I mean my state is strong and we are facing a state we can’t take. To some degree, you do need stronger players. But that has nothing to do with WK. That has to do with game age. The game is 2 years old now. People are much bigger and stronger and there are more of them. I remember when 1b might was MASSIVE. Now it’s become common place. I’m not super far from it myself. So yes, as the game ages, players will become bigger and bigger and it will be more challenging to come up against them if your state isn’t keeping up with the pace. And that’s why we recruit.

[livid gazelle]

Your state came up in conversation today

Also I'm trying to keep players from revolting and breaking NAP because we could probably take both states today if we wanted to

[cinder patrol]

Oh?

[livid gazelle]

Yeah. They said the you guys had been taken.

[cinder patrol]

Yep

[livid gazelle]

We were talking about boring NAPs

[cinder patrol]

But can’t really do much with King ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[livid gazelle]

Nope. Just try to have fun at that point

[cinder patrol]

We are new so they’re gonna do it, it’s expected

They face the same alliances all the time. We just got screwed lol.

But I can go sit next to Billy jack and poke him 🤣

[graceful canyon]

If hub gets shielded taking another state but towers are occupied by invaders, do they still fire and do damage? I forgot, sorry and want to clarify.

[livid gazelle]

They do fire and you will still take damage

[livid gazelle]

Do it

[sharp niche]

Does forced relocation work during WK?

[cinder patrol]

Yes

Last time they used it on us to kick us out but we were paying attention so it didn’t work out for their purposes lol

[sharp niche]

Thank you!

[graceful canyon]

Thought so but was unsure. Thanks for clarification 😘

[livid gazelle]

Glad to help

[fickle pine]

What activates the shield on the hub?

[cinder patrol]

Taking another state’s hub or taking back your own from a foreign alliance

First way it stays in as long as your state does. Second way is only 30 minutes.

[fickle pine]

Does the come back boost still activate if the hub is lost to another state?

[brave pier]

Yes, It activates automatically.

[elfin charm]

Hi, so based on what is stated above about the recent game update:
If you ONLY secure your home hub, it will be the under the following column right?

That means if my current state is in Gold and we want to drop our ranking to Silver, we can just sit tight in our home hub for 8 hours and we will get -100 from our current points?

[gaunt berry]

Exactly :) you got it right

[livid cedar]

It's wishful thinking, but it'd be great if matching can be done based on HQ levels. Our state has mostly T9s and moderate T10s and keeps getting matched up with T11s/T12s. Oh well 🙃

[lapis cosmos]

I dont wanna hear about hq levels. There are too many t9s that can hurt me as a t11 now so it's pretty fair for a system

[cinder patrol]

HQ means nothing. It’s about stats.

[hearty marsh]

Can someone tell me why i just get 2 M troops to train on fast recovery 300%....when i had 18M points on the lost troops....

[fresh prairie]

Did they die or go to infirmary

[hearty marsh]

died....whent to deep healing and the alliance hospital

so what is wrong

[sage spear]

How did they die? Tile hits? HQ hits?

[hearty marsh]

turrent hits...

sorry i got 15 M point not 18M...on lost of troops

i full my hospital with t1 by hiting in the mug tiles...the rest was the turrent..

I got points so what is that relevant..if didn´t count why wining points

[sage spear]

Yeah, none of the mud hits count for fast comeback. It is only turret and hub attacks, and excludes damage from turret fire.

[hearty marsh]

but if dosen´t count why win points

that is not plausible

[sage spear]

It doesn’t count because the rules say it doesn’t count.

[cinder patrol]

It says it in the rules for fast comeback

Yep

Lol

[sage spear]

Only about 13m of my points count for fast comeback. Better than some WK, worse than I had planned

[hearty marsh]

is any moderate that write in portuguese

[cinder patrol]

Yes. I can and so can @brave pier

[sage spear]

We have answered your question though. You just didn’t like the answer 🤣

[cinder patrol]

I can say it in Portuguese but the answer will be the same

[hearty marsh]

Para um moderador está a ser pouco imparcial...não acha

Só quero entender e foi por isso que foram nomeados para dar esclarecimentos, certo.....

[cinder patrol]

quão?

[hearty marsh]

não tem de fazer pouco do que estou perguntando

apenas explicar

[cinder patrol]

As regras do Fast Comeback são claras. Se seus soldados morrerem por causa do ataque da torre, eles não contam.

[sage spear]

seus pontos não contavam porque as regras diziam que não contavam.

[hearty marsh]

Então qual é o proposito do retorno, se a principal objetivo do evento é atacar as torres e a hub

esta a dizer que só devemos atacar pontos de recurso e Santuarios

[sage spear]

But you didn’t only attack turrets and hubs. You also attacked the mud. Those points don’t count for fast comeback. There is only so many ways we can tell you the same thing

[cinder patrol]

É para ataques quando VOCÊ ataca o hub ou uma torre, ou se sua torre for atacada. Não se uma torre atacar você no hub.

[cinder patrol]

Aaa

Não

[pale arch]

My state had it long time ago

[gilded cypress]

Can a Conquered state be renamed?

[sage spear]

No.

[gilded cypress]

Oh poop 💩

[fresh prairie]

Starting to get off topic

[torpid matrix]

Did the WK rules change back to the original rules? I thought you lost points even if you only controlled 1 hub?

[cinder patrol]

Your own hub. Not a foreign one.

[livid cedar]

I mean when you have a state where t9s are the majority vs a state where t10/11s are the majority with a few t12s, it's almost always that t10/11/12s will have better stats. It is what it is, i just feel helpless sometimes 😀

[thorn sphinx]

Does anyone know the cost of healing T10 units in Alliance infirmary?

I believe it costs alliance coins but not sure how much per

[patent wraith]

o fast comeback ou retorno rápido em português, só se aplica a tropas perdidas ao atacar as torres ou o hub, qlq outra forma de perde tropas, não conta pro buff.

Pode até contar pros pontos do evento, mas não pro buff

[midnight tapir]

So there are two cases that will activate a shield over the Zenith Tech Hub during the WK.

1. When you drive out a foreign enemy form your own zenith tech hub, it will active a protective shield for 30 minutes.
2. When your state occupies a foreign Zenith Tech Hub and your state's Zenith Tech Hub is not occupied by a foreign enemy, it will activate a protective shield until your state loses control of the foreign Zenith Tech Hub.

Am I correct?

[fresh prairie]

Yeah

[potent star]

What happen if we hold our own hub, and our R5 automatically get governor title. However our R5 has been offline for two days, and we can't reach the person. In this case who can turn on the 300% comeback boost?

[fresh prairie]

😫

[sage spear]

No one. Only the governor. Shouldn’t have hosted in an alliance without an active R5

[potent star]

Didn't expect it, the person is always on time. Otherwise we will have alternative plan🥲Still have hours left, fingers cross for us

And hopefully our R5 is okay in real life 🙏

[elfin burrow]

Is there a way to chat wiht a mod/dev or someone else that can help me wiht rewards ?

[cinder patrol]

What’s the issue

[elfin burrow]

Hen Wk was still going i did not got more points after i hit 99,3 % of kill points. I tried it defensive and offensive. I only needed 500k more to have 100% tough the game did not give anything i did kill T8 and T9 after i got to 99,3%.

[cinder patrol]

Were they actually killed?

[elfin burrow]

Batle report says -4 mil might like all other reports .

If it was not fore the rewards i did not tried it anymorz. Now i lost rss,speed ups and troops .

Can you help me out here ?

[cinder patrol]

Were they dead or wounded

Might lost isn’t the number of troops you killed

[elfin burrow]

Brought mz to 99,3

Now i post to after

Should be more then enough to get my 500k points not ?

[cinder patrol]

No. You didn’t kill enough of the enemy troops.

[elfin burrow]

39 000 and 150 000 kills ?

Even the 39 000 T8 gives 30 points fore 1 kill . Or do i miss something here ?

Sorry to ask alot i just don´t get it yet .

[cinder patrol]

Kills are calculated based on how many of their troops you killed. You had 147k total casualties of which only 39k were kills.

Casualties are wounded + killed

You just need to focus on the killed

Without seeing the points screen it’s hard to offer more explanation

[elfin burrow]

I understand the part of casuality´s . Like you say here 39K are kilked 107k are wounded and casuality is a total of 147k . I only need to count the 39k in this example . 39k killes like the report say would be 39k multiplied by 30 for the points.

A shame the reports don´t say what points we get fore wk , would make it much easyer tough.

[tropic sapphire]

hi any one know for the new state how many wk we have without enemy of another state?

[cinder patrol]

You have 2 Zenith Wars before you have Wasteland King

[tropic sapphire]

tnks😘

[fresh prairie]

👀

[livid gazelle]

did you have a question

[white totem]

Nah

[fresh prairie]

😂

[livid gazelle]

Cool

[cinder patrol]

Is there a reason this is in the wasteland king channel

[severe kettle]

I have a question. For wasteland king to regain my states rank do we have to A occupy a foothold for a certain amount of time or B. Do we have to actually defeat them and claim thier hub the whole 8 hours

[livid gazelle]

You have to claim them

Either 8hrs consecutive or longest time.

[severe kettle]

Ok thank you

[shut blade]

Here is a little tool to help folks figure out what grade their state may end up after WK and accounts (I think) for the various possible scenarios. Only input you need to provide is your state’s starting trophies in B1. Cells E6 to E13 reflect the results of the possible scenarios from WK.

Hope this helps!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gWifXcHF2K27bPev30gMG0Y-DDQUCvRyAPBRKxk6pH4/edit?usp=sharing

[frozen gyro]

Hiii. If we took over some other states, is there a trick to allocating their boxes? We are getting a message saying something like “ not authorised”

[fading prairie]

Only Governor can hand boxes out.

[frozen gyro]

He’s the one getting the error. Can you give a person more than one box?

[barren tapir]

No you can’t

[frozen gyro]

AHA. maybe that’s the issue. Okay thank you!

[thin crystal]

But if you took more than 2 states you can give boxes more than one to one player. Eg: I was gov when our state took another two states. So you can give until max 3 boxes to 1 player. 1 box from your state and 2 boxes from other states that you conquered

Are we talking about boxes or coffers btw?

[frozen gyro]

That’s super interesting! Yes we took two others. Boxes. I want Nat frags lol!!

[frozen gyro]

So you just go to their hub and they are there to allocate?

[thin crystal]

No. Allocate from your current states like usual. Click the player’s name that you wanna allocate the boxes

[frozen gyro]

Ok fabby. Will pass on. Appreciate the help!

[thin crystal]

Sure! If you are also aware, the boxes might multiply, like let say king sword box will be 3 instead of 1 if you took other states. Hope the rules not changing, been a long time i have distributed those boxes

[frozen gyro]

Nope looks like they are there. Thanks again!!!

[white totem]

Siema wszystkim

[fallow epoch]

Hello

[full sinew]

When you capture another state you (governor) will get extra boxes to give out.
You can't give out the captured state boxes, decree, etc.. All hub functions in the captured state are locked.

When our state captures another state's hub and our home state hub is shielded, does the shield protect from turret attacks?

Is the answer different if the foreign states holds the turret compared to a home state alliance?

[sage spear]

Shields do not stop turret attacks.

[full sinew]

Thanks Hillside

[atomic sierra]

Soo it has to be two states to allocate multiple boxes

[thin crystal]

That is based on my experience, yes.

[atomic sierra]

Okay thank you

[knotty galleon]

Hey guys, got a quick question. When you are the Governor, can you change the Alliance you are in and still retain the title?

[elfin charm]

Also, if you are at Alliance A as a governor, when you change to Alliance B, will the governing alliance be Alliance A or Alliance B?

[sage spear]

The title doesn’t change. You can move alliances as often as you want during the 2 weeks

[sage spear]

The alliance listed on the hub stays fixed from the time you secure the hub for the next 2 weeks.

[normal epoch]

What percentage of troops will die vs being wounded if attacked/attacking during zenith/wk?

[sage spear]

70/30 before your miraculous survival is applied (or First Aid Talent)
It is a quiz question 🤣

[normal epoch]

Oh ok, thanks...I thought it had changed to 90/10 in one of the updates but wasn't sure

[fresh prairie]

Thats wasteland conquest 90% return after the event 10% die. They go to a hospital.

[normal epoch]

Ahh, ok. Thanks for clearing that up

[silver ginkgo]

I have never participated in wasteland. Can someone give me a quick explanation

[livid gazelle]

You get matched with other states and have to defend your hub. Whomever holds the hub for 8 consecutive hours wins it. If you don't hold for 8 hours, it's whichever alliance has occupied the longest during the 24h period

[grave dagger]

And more than most any other event it can either be suuuuuper boring or absolute chaos. Not much in between.

[cinder patrol]

We have plenty in between. Just mess around with a state to get our points and then go home.

[grave dagger]

I’m usually the doorman for whichever alliance is hosting 😔

[livid gazelle]

I've got my fingers crossed that this week's will be relatively normal

[lapis cosmos]

Yall have a doorman 👀 our state alliance is at a set limit and everyone lets themselves in lol

[grave dagger]

Well it’s more to accept people into the alliance that night/early morning. Except I’m finally going out of state this time! 🙌

[lapis cosmos]

That makes sense lol

[grave dagger]

But the start of WK and Valiant is torture being on the East Coast…

[lapis cosmos]

Yeah that 6am start is very bleh

It's soon gonna be 5am😭

[fresh prairie]

I’ll be at work.

Better to be 5 am than 6am. Im always super busy my last hour

[lapis cosmos]

I feel like 5am may be easier on me than this 6am tbh

[wheat island]

Just curious ...if a state loses will troop comeback be activated automatically?

[fading prairie]

Fast comeback will automatically start if you lose your state hub.

[wheat island]

Thank you

[split fern]

Do my miraculous survival stats also apply to others in my rally when I apply super reinforcement during wk?

[potent star]

Who will be the governor when the host alliance win the hub? Highest might or R5?

[fresh prairie]

The R5 can assign anyone in the Host alliance the governor position.

[echo swift]

Is there a formula worked out anywhere for the ratio of troops to defend towers such a 60% Fighters, 20% Shooters and Riders? Or does it matter?

[fresh prairie]

When we do the towers we send one troop type to each. With the biggest rally size And who has good stats enter first

[echo swift]

So that sounds like all riders to one, all shooters to another etc? Or is that in a troop formation?

[fresh prairie]

Your correct. All riders to one. Etc….

[echo swift]

Ok…thanks bunches!

[cinder patrol]

Depends on the stats of your state. Every state will try something different because they won’t have the exact same stats as others.

[quiet ember]

How exactly does Casualty Points work in regards to Fast Comeback. Let's say my infirmary is empty and I send 300K T10s (18M Might) at a Hub occupied by ichi's T12s and all T10s are wiped. I can expect 30% to be dead permanently (so 90K for 5.4M Might).

Does the game award me 18M Might casualty points, meaning 21.6M Fast Comeback (18M + 20%) - or only 6.48M (5.4M + 20%) from the permanently dead troops?

[high dragon]

5.4 × 1.2 if your infirmary has space. Only death counts for fast comeback whether it is fake or real death. Will check on first aid and miraculous survival.
Anything exceeding infirmary = deep healing counts fully.

[silk matrix]

Reason why i don't kill troops during wk 😂 i hate maths and have no idea how much troops is needed to be sacrifice.

[sage spear]

All of them need to be sacraficed 😈🤣

[sage spear]

Pretty sure miraculous prevents them from being dead.

[high dragon]

If I don't recall wrongly, you still get 30% for fcb. Since fcb counts only dead, I assume they are dead before converting to alive. If it prevent death, wouldn't be getting 30%. But I might recall wrongly 🤔

[sage spear]

Based on the battle reports, it isnt 30%. Mine is around 22% that goes to casualty points, and that matches with my fast comeback results.

[high dragon]

I might check again this weekend if I m not forced to sleep in hub. Might be first aid instead of miraculous survival, haven't really been doing fcb without full infirmary.

[sage spear]

I had checked and confirmed a while back, but my last many WK were spent hitting tiles and HQs so my numbers are all over the place. When I was less abusive to my troops, I tried to only injur enough to clear points which is why I had checked and used to send just enough troops to clear.

[lavish oxide]

Question, if you take over another state, and they have coffers, do you get to allocate those as well in addition to the coffers your own state gets from the conquered state's taxes?

I read some old messages and it seems this was option before? #🔥game-general message

[sage spear]

No. You do not get access to their coffers.

[lavish oxide]

Alright, thanks for clarification

[hollow cipher]

what is the best way to earn casualty point during WK. my best is getting 20M points maxed and want to get more without keep healing my troops, it gets expensive

[cinder patrol]

It’s an expensive event. You can use T1s. But it will take more of them.

[sharp niche]

That's why some people have like 5 Mio T1s in their sanctuaries. Man, I hate that!

[cinder patrol]

No, that's to pad their defense against hits.

[grave dagger]

Called a meat shield for a reason

[sharp niche]

Not necessarily. I know a lot that started doing it because of WK and now they have that many.

[shut blade]

True it’s not necessarily just for that but most build a meat shield for sanctuary defense not WK since they have a use but it’s limited during WK. But during Valiant and Nuka having boatloads of t1s is helpful

[shut blade]

I am curious if anyone uses this for their WK planning, please lmk if you have any feedback (always looking to improve tools like this)

[sharp niche]

Also why I wrote some and not most

You never faced HQ 40 filling buildings with T1? They get points with their monstrous stats and the only thing you get casualties

[grave dagger]

Yup

[cinder patrol]

We all know that. But when people have millions of T1s, it’s not generally for WK. It’s for defense.

I just hit 1m taxis. I did it for defense. WK is secondary.

[sharp niche]

Azzie, I like you too much that disagreeing feels like a pretty big deal. I am not saying that's false what you are saying about meat shield. Just mentioning because the question was about casualties that I personally know people who started training T1s explicitly because of WK (one was even amazed to see T1 from an HQ 40 kick someone else's T11 out of a building and he himself started training them even though he previously kept saying that he hates meat shield. Right now, he has about 4 millions)

[hasty peak]

Is that the 300% or 30% comeback?

[sharp niche]

300

[cinder patrol]

Wasteland King/War Introduction & Rules

[dawn compass]

Will troops lost by HQ hits in mud count towards 300% boost?

[fresh prairie]

No

[dawn compass]

Even in opposing state?

[fresh prairie]

Only attacks on hub or turret

[dawn compass]

But troops that you loose by tile attacks are also counted in casualties iirc

And that 120% of same might is being covered in fast comeback

[fresh prairie]

Tile attacks do not count towards fast come back either.

[dawn compass]

Ohh

Thank you

[covert copper]

Gold rank is ridiculous, k5xx matched with k2x lol

[fresh prairie]

State age does not matter. There are some very strong states in the 500 range and some weak states in the older states.

[sage spear]

No, casualties and fast comeback are different

[livid gazelle]

We've got S2 and S404 today

[plush spire]

Is there a reason we got matched against 3 states

[fresh prairie]

This happens on occasion. It’s possible your group just had an off number of states.

[plush spire]

Thanks for into

[versed hedge]

Like kazumi said 😄 she was faster 😄

😁

[granite condor]

So much for that theory. We’re all getting owned by 1 old state lmao

[thin crystal]

“Theoretically” 101 is not that old, and its true this event not based on stage age, its per bracket

[granite condor]

Maybe not “that old” but in comparison to 502, 503, and 538? Lol

[covert copper]

talking about bracket, 521 still doesn't have any t11 but keeps facing t12

[fresh prairie]

And which bracket are you in

[cinder patrol]

You’re in the same grade, so you will be matched, that’s how it works. There are states that are exceptionally strong that are newer. If you are close in points, you can be matched with them regardless of state age. The only grade that doesn’t seem to apply to is Legend.

[graceful canyon]

Been for ever but if units in hosting alliance infirmary is it only alliance coins that heal them?

[cinder patrol]

Yes

[graceful canyon]

Thanks Azzie! Deep healing meant I didn't think of that for so long but we've got a few players with troops in hosting alliance infirmary today😭

[plush wing]

Do casualties after your fast comeback starts add to your 300% total?

[vivid hazel]

Good afternoon, everyone. How much time do we have to appoint a governor after winning the Zenith? Thanks for your help u in advance🙇‍♀️🙇‍♀️

[fresh prairie]

2 hours it should be

[fresh prairie]

Yes

[plush wing]

I thought so

[fresh prairie]

Casualty from turrets and hub attacks

[plush wing]

They don’t want to start fast comeback bc they were thinking no more casualties would count towards the 300% since both other states just had hubs reset

[vivid hazel]

Muchas gracias por su apoyo 🙇‍♀️

[brave pier]

Was a very busy day today

[fluid hull]

For WK, do I need to keep my troops in the infirmary and wait to heal for the training boost.

[fresh prairie]

No

[fluid hull]

Thank you, so helpful

[white totem]

Ok so we are going to lose our state. Who will have access to hq limits

[sage spear]

Click on your hub to see this detail

[white totem]

Perfect thank you

[elfin charm]

Hi, I have a question on hub that has been occupied by a foreign state.

[All taxed resources goes to foreign state's coffers]
Qns 1. Are these taxed resources from:

1. transporting resource within alliance
2. taxes from raids

Qns 2. As it also shows that the conquered state pay taxes (?) on a daily basis, does this mean that if we don't transport or raid within that 2 weeks, there will be no tax? Or is there a daily price that needs to be paid?

[versed hedge]

Hey 🙂
A1: All taxed ressources mean all 🙈
A2: you should not stop transporting stuff to help others with hqs or stuff... do not forget tomorrow starts showdown and you will lose a lot with dont let people do transport quests as well also... do not weak your own state just because you dont want the other state to get rss of taxes you would pay anyway....

[versed hedge]

And....if you dont attack dead bases to gather those not taken rss the other state will do it on valiant next weekend

Then it not just get only those taxes... they then get the whole rss 🙈

[elfin charm]

This helps. Thank you. 🙌

[versed hedge]

Im happy i could help 🌼😊 wish you a wonderful sunday 😊 and dont be sad to lose hub once... next waseland king it could be other way round 💪😊

[weak pike]

I have a question please

[sage spear]

Best if you ask your question so someone can answer it

[weak pike]

Haha yes of course

What is the allotted time for a governor to be selected ? And what happens if one is not appointed by the alliance who wins wk ?

[sage spear]

The R5 of the alliance has 2 hours after securing the Hub, or after the end of the 24 hours if no one holds the hub for 8 continuous hours.
If they do nothing in those 2 hours, they automatically become governor.

[weak pike]

Thank you

[ember fulcrum]

We lost our Wasteland- 2 questions- will we battle the current occupying state again next WK? And can we still activate state boosts?

[fresh prairie]

You can’t activate boost. You get the 300% fast come back. That’s all.

More likely you won’t face that same state based off trophy’s

[solid plume]

Hey all I didn’t activate fast comeback until this morning after event concluded. Some of the folks in my state are saying their fast comeback limit and what they lost in turrets and hubs don’t match? All three hubs were held by own states with 8 hrs consecutive. Any thoughts as to why?

[fresh prairie]

Are they looking at how much might they lost? Because if units just go to infirmary and don’t actually die. It won’t go towards fastcome back.

So you could lose 20m might. But only actually 2m die

That’s an example

[solid plume]

That’s what I was thinking. One claims to have lost 4M in dead troops but only got 400k in fast comeback. There is no specific time frame required to activate it for full boost right?

[fresh prairie]

Right.

[fresh prairie]

See if they can show some screen shots of the hits.

[solid plume]

Thanks you, will ask for these. Told them to check alliance infirmary also.

[fresh prairie]

4m might is 66666 t10s dead.

And 400k is 6666 troops dead

[fickle pine]

Do t1s actually earn kill points or not? When checking how to earn points it says t1 = 0 but I talked to someone who ran a test, I had 1k taxis in a tower and they marked their points before and after they hit and their kills went up a 1k.

[fresh prairie]

They don’t count towards personal points

I saw that lol

[livid gazelle]

Dunno what you're talking about 🤣

[sage spear]

They probably had casualties from tiles hits or other non turret/hub attacks. My casualties was 11m. My fast comeback is 100k.

[solid plume]

Either that or was counting total might lost rather than dead. Couldn’t get an exact number. Could also be think he lost more than he did. Last two were really rough, had to fight hard for it. This time I only lost 2k troops total to secure the hub (comeback was only 30k). This easy one was very welcome. Comeback last time (after losing hub) was 18M lol

[exotic crown]

Hi people. I was told the fast comeback isn't applied to the casualties from turret shots on Hub, was this patched in the patch that way? I was quite sure about the opposite.

[fresh prairie]

It’s always been like that. And still like that . Just attacks on turret and hub

[exotic crown]

For some reasons I never recalled the last words lol

[livid gazelle]

It's part of the reason I hate being in the hub

[fresh prairie]

I never go

[dark shoal]

Hello, I was hoping you could help me verify something. On this chart, the points for taking of another state's hub (however many it may be) are independent of the points earned or lost by keeping or not keeping ones own hub, correct? For example, say... Gold tier - keeps their own and takes 2 foreign states. The points would be +800 (2 foreign hubs) & -100 (own hub) giving a net of +700 points, right?

And then, Gold tier, takes 1 foreign hub & loses own hub - that would be +500(1 foreign) & -250(losing own hub) giving a net of +250, yes?

Thank you, I'm sorry for the lengthy question.

[cinder patrol]

No. It would be just 800. The points are all independent meaning they are mutually exclusive. You only lose points if all you did was occupy your own hub and nothing else.

[cinder patrol]

We don’t know how this works because nobody has yet ever come back with proof that they lost their own hub and secured another.

[dark shoal]

Ahh interesting... Okay. Thank you. That's sort of the center of the whole discussion we were having. I couldn't find any examples where someone spoke about their experience losing theirs while taking another lol. We were contemplating the ways it might be possible though.
Thank you so much!

[hollow blaze]

Maybe I am missing something, but how is that "load limit" of 10mill reached already?

[golden oracle]

I think gas and steel weigh more. You notice the same when gathering where you'll need more units to carry less gas and steel compared to food and wood.

[hollow blaze]

FFS, I thought that thing was 10mill units 🤦🏻‍♂️ thanks

[high dragon]

Steel weigh 5 times wood/food and gas is 20 times.

[sage spear]

Yes, as others mentioned, it is based on 10m food/wood. Steel is 5 f/w, gas is 20 f/w. Same ratio as rss tiles and event points.

[hollow blaze]

Ty

[narrow grail]

Hello

[cold ruin]

I'm looking for ideas on how best to do WLK?

Should we do shifts? I see good and bad for this, what are your thoughts?

Should we reset hub when we have a NAP agreement?

What about setting up teams to go to other states for point while waiting for their shift to occupy our turrets?

[livid gazelle]

If you have a NAP agreement you probably don't want to reset hubs. I would avoid agreeing to a NAP at all. Depends on what your end goal is

[cinder patrol]

You have to have the power and also the willingness of everyone to sacrifice troops if you go attack and the other state chooses to attack back. It’s almost never just one sided. You have to have the reserves to take those retaliatory hits.

[livid gazelle]

I can remember more than one occasion where someone thought it would be a good idea to reset our hub and we went and took theirs right away

[cinder patrol]

We poked a lot at the other state last week and their biggest single marched our hub more than once lol but we have the people and strategies to regroup.

[paper coral]

This is true

[cursive lintel]

If my state takes another states hub. Can people still fill my hub and towers for occupation points?

[livid gazelle]

You can hold 2 states simultaneously

[cursive lintel]

But my hub is shielded

If my hub is shielded (in my little scenario) can people occupy it?

And the towers

[livid gazelle]

You can get occupation points as long as you haven't officially won. It just keeps people from taking it

Be able to get occupation points up until you officially win or lose your state.

[cursive lintel]

So if my hub is shielded bc we are holding another hub, I can still send troops in?

[livid gazelle]

Yes.

[cursive lintel]

Ok. Thank you so much!

[livid gazelle]

You're very welcome. Some states will take towers or other hubs just give more of their people the ability to get points

We would have one state that we were up against that would always take a turret just to get their smaller players points

[cursive lintel]

I thought once the shield was up in our state, we could no longer fill it

[river cape]

Just be aware that turret fire when another same state alliance or another state occupies a turret: 1. Penetrates the shield, and 2. Does not count toward fast comeback.

[winter stone]

Question in order to not lose trophies in gold league, you must occupy another zenith hub. Does it count if you hold a hub for a bit but lose / give it back? Or must you have it for the full 8 hours to count?

[fresh prairie]

Occupy means take it. The full 8 hours.

[winter stone]

That's what I assumed thank you

[covert copper]

is there a chance to lose swp when we stay occupying hub/turret?

[honest plank]

Yes someone can take you superweapon if they hit you at any stage

[sonic wasp]

So the new patch, no more separate occupation, kill or death rewards? Is that what everyone is getting?

[brave pier]

I think will be like just personal points and no more ranking rewards, so it won't matter if you arrive first or last in hub or turrets. Rewards will be same for all. Or that's what I understand

[sonic wasp]

Okay. It said the events were gone so I was a little confused. Guess we will find out. It did say dying will count for overall rewards though, so that’s nice!

[graceful hearth]

Sounds like more of a way for them to make money, first they rigged it to where you are forced to fight to keep your state’s wasteland rank. Now they are taking away any speed up rewards you get from ranks to help rebuild so you will have to spend even more money to recover.

If could have just add the new rewards on top of the others to make the event worth doing.

[fresh prairie]

Ive never spent money to recover.

[livid gazelle]

We don't actually know what the changes are going to be yet just the general vague description they always do

[fresh prairie]

It’s foreign to us all lol

[sage spear]

What is clear is that if you forgot to claim your personal rewards (like during BL last week), they will be auto claimed during the update.

[fresh prairie]

Just looks like they reformatted it.

Don’t see any occupational points except the 1min in the hub

This kinda looks easier to get points

[lapis cosmos]

This looks like it could be fun

[rough aspen]

It means no training speedups anymore

🤣🤣

[lapis cosmos]

On kazs screenshot there 75 reward of training speedups. Actually there's lots of training speedups I just looked at my screenshots lol

[lyric warren]

No more Fast Comeback?

Or is Fast Comeback might limited to a little less than 30M?

Also I assume the 3 100 points are bonus when you achieve them and kill and casualty are scored based on troop tier. However it doesn't say how occupation points are counted.

[versed hedge]

When you click on the " i " right next to the second slot (losing troops points) there get shown the 300 % bonus information at the bottom so hopefully its still there 🙂

[lyric warren]

But it looks like it's capped?

[versed hedge]

I can just say whats standing there... we will see finally on weekend 🙈

[lyric warren]

Is the number what I have from the last WK? It looks suspiciously similar.

[versed hedge]

As i said we will just see on weekend finally how the new system will works 🙈

[lyric warren]

They didn't say how the occupation points will be calculated. I guess we'll find out how it works in a few days.

10,000 points to max out on staged rewards? If I am reading the chart correctly, suicide 2500 taxis will get you there. Is that right?

[craggy skiff]

doubt it, you probably need to get all kill, death, and occupation points. Theres usually always a point cap on how many points you can get with suicides/deaths. But we will find out for sure this weekend

[fresh prairie]

Fastcome back shouldn’t be affected. Since it’s a buff.

[lyric warren]

Can the governor be changed/reappointed in between WK? I know R5 of the winning alliance can make the initial appointment but can it change after that?

Looking at how some of the achievement tasks may affect how we do things.

[thin crystal]

Unfortunately no

[midnight tapir]

So it basically means we get rewards based on aggregate points (of casualties, enemy kills, and occupation), right?

[lyric warren]

Can someone help me understand exactly what counts towards clean sweep? My first read is that units belonging to others that I kill in hub and turret attacks. The part about not from turret fire confuses me because turret fire kill numbers have never been attributed to turret occupiers. So maybe they are rewarding my casualty in hub and turret attacks?

[midnight tapir]

Also it seems pretty easy to get all the points via casualties. Sounds too good to be true. Or am I not getting it right? 🤔

[lyric warren]

That's what I was saying earlier but people seem to think there'll be caps in each category. Even then, it seems very easy

[midnight tapir]

Makes sense

[hallow crown]

Looks like the rewards on WC, keep increasing the bar as you complete them

[livid gazelle]

@unkempt oriole this pin has a layout concept

[bleak thistle]

Mine shows the number I had in fast comeback last wk indeed.

[alpine flare]

Where do you sign up to participate?

[astral glade]

Hi everyone...
Can someone tell me how to get to sign up channel for wasteland

[fresh prairie]

Check with your state.

[astral glade]

Ok thx

[fresh prairie]

There isn’t a real sign up.

But they could have one set up

[lofty cape]

Can anyone verify if you MUST take another state for your state to rank up OR can your state rank up if they get a certain amount of points without taking another state?

[fresh prairie]

Must take another hub

[velvet remnant]

this is going to be my first time i will participate in wasteland any tips

[fresh prairie]

Don’t put your sanctuary in the mud

[velvet remnant]

do i need to worry about my resources

[fresh prairie]

Only if you go in the mud

[velvet remnant]

cool. They have me on defense since it’s my first time

[sonic wasp]

Depends on your states rank. You can go up to gold just holding yours

[sonic wasp]

If you go to upcoming events, wasteland war, then hit the i in the top right corner, the second tab is grade rules and has a breakdown 🙂

[forest flame]

If my state's hub is taken by another state, what happens to coffers we haven't allocated?

I found in another answer that the other state doesn't get access to them but are they still available if/when we get our state back in the future?

[livid gazelle]

That is the case.

[livid gazelle]

I think we still have stuff left in ours from a while back and we've been taken at least once since then

[forest flame]

Thank you 🥰

[lofty cape]

thank you, yes. I did see this. My state is currently gold but we used to be platinum before the update changed everything when Nataly was added to the mix. Not sure how or why we were dropped down after the update but we didn't lose our hub that time. Last WK we did lose our hub but didn't drop from gold to silver. So since my state is still gold, what would we need to rank back up to platinum? Because if we can get the points by occupying another state for a while but not actually take their hub, would that work or would we actually have to take their hub? I've just been hearing mixed things about it so wanted to see if anyone knows for sure.

[fresh prairie]

You need to take hubs to get points. Just sitting in it doesn’t give anything.

Anything towards rank.

[lofty cape]

Got it, thanks. So if you don't take a state, does your state get demoted in rank now?

[fresh prairie]

Yea

[lofty cape]

thank you

[rose halo]

You can park in the mud but be sure you have minimum 8hs shield or better out 24 hours shield and after the hub is secured park back on your spot in green area and you are safe again

[fresh prairie]

Don’t ever park in the mud. It’s pointless lol.

[fresh prairie]

Looks good!

Fastcome back totals can be seen

[slow hatch]

What's the points for the last phase for kills and casualties if anyone reached?

[tall elk]

Where can you see this info?

[heady pawn]

I always love it when they fix something that's not broken. Everyone was used to the old screens.

[fresh prairie]

@tall elk look at the red arrow to the right

[pale arch]

Getting bored about this game and thinking about quit. get the same super state again and he tooks everything. Two times got his state, last WK got another and this time him again. I never see the state pairing like this before and i think this game cursed my state. Thank you for the fun and bye

[fresh prairie]

Oh. Don’t quit because of this. Im sorry 😞 😞😞😞😞. Move states

[pale arch]

Expensive tickets

[fresh prairie]

I understand.

[heady pawn]

I kind of get the feeling. We haven't had this happen to us in WK yet, but in Res and Clash we've met the same alliance about 5 times and each time we get our butts kicked. At a certain time it is no longer fun.

[tall elk]

Thank you

[rustic wing]

can someone please tell me how much is the tax from losing your state hub? Thanks

[icy jewel]

Does anyone know if the fast comeback boost is affected by this new update?

[full sinew]

The game "tax" from transferring rss is the tax

[fresh prairie]

Scroll up and see the pictures

[full sinew]

Does anyone know if the personal occupation points limit has changed?

[icy jewel]

Saw that lol just wanted to double check ty

[fresh prairie]

Only one way we can find out. Waiting.

[full sinew]

.... but I have no patience 🤬🤣🤣

[fresh prairie]

There is no other way for anyone to know lol

Based off minutes now

[agile vale]

Is there a max for occupation points?

[full sinew]

Unknown..... waiting impatiently to find out.

[fresh prairie]

Lol

[atomic mural]

Really not enamoured with the new format to be honest.

[violet lark]

Quick question, Do unit killed on a headquarters in the mud during Wasteland King attacks go to state infirmary or they are permanently death?

[versed hedge]

Here a bit more visible maybe

[versed hedge]

What dies in wasteland king dies permanently

[atomic mural]

From what I read, you get 4 points for killing t1s against turrets and hub but you get 0 points for killing them. The t1 takeover continues apace

[slow hatch]

Anyone hit the max for kill points/casualties? 👀

[violet lark]

Thanks for confirming Fallabella

[safe tangle]

Hello everyone. After the update, is there a limit on getting hold points or is it limited only by the time of the event? Maybe someone has information? Thanks!

[spring geode]

Has anyone reached maximum occupation points yet? How long does it take and how many do you get?

[atomic mural]

104/120 mins so far. Will update once passed that

[spring geode]

I guess I can go to sleep then 😆

[fresh prairie]

It by minutes. So we will all get there together

[spring geode]

I started later

[atomic mural]

120 mins is max occupation

[spring geode]

Thanks

[tame rune]

Anyone maxed kill/death?

[full sinew]

Thank you Hoff

[magic torrent]

Anyone have any idea how the changes affected the comeback boost?

[cold kettle]

Click question mark on left of screen on the points obtained by losing troops. You can see exactly what your comeback is real time

[magic torrent]

Aha! Stupid deaths from missles

[stiff kite]

Any cap on the losing units section?

[proud quiver]

Sooo… has anyone hit the casualty cap? Because I’m at 22.5 mil and it’s still going 😂😅

[fresh prairie]

I doubt there is one

Lol

[proud quiver]

Yeah I gave up lol

If anyone does hit a cap, let a girl know 😂

[vernal ravine]

With new update with instate attack points for wasteland. Does fast comeback work also Ie: can I get all points instate. And still comeback from all those losses

[dusky elm]

Yes, the update doesn't change the 300% boost and its rules. The only change is that the point system for WK has been restructured in a way that it's similar to WC. In short it's making easier to earn points to get Nataly and etc, less confusing (two point system in the past before the update) and no change to the 300% training boost & its rules.

[vernal ravine]

Thank you

[normal obsidian]

Thank you for this.

[dusky elm]

Just check to the Zenith Hub's state degree anytime before starting WK, it's still the same.
It's always a good habit to check regularly in case there's a change made by the devs unannounced

[cobalt arch]

Is there a reason for not seeing kill points?

@burnt drift any reason that nobody in state 21 are seeing kill points on wasteland king?

[frigid arrow]

Any reason to keep gaining points if you maxed rewards😒😂

[versed hedge]

Watch the last #🩹patch-notes ... they changed some stuff around wasteland king... those rankings about kills, deaths and occupation are gone, therefore you can get for all three points to the normal reward list... when you go on wasteland king - personal reward -> scroll to the bottom you see your kill points, but just from your own... when you click on Leaderboard which is on top right corner you can see a personal ranking with the states you are matched with

[wanton shoal]

Does anybody knows the occupy point capacity?

[cobalt arch]

Nobody in my alliance are seeing kill points

[versed hedge]

Gotcha, i reported it

But please do not tag pns officials next time 🙂

[versed hedge]

Can you send me more of that screenshots and the reports of the attacks at private message? You should also send it to customer service