🔥game-general

[robust sigil]

My solo sucks I hide behind joint lairs

[shy dove]

My 54 is pretty
My 55 sucks

Sucks bad

[robust sigil]

I solo a 49 but with a 12 or a couple 11s can run 51s

[shy dove]

Work meeting
I’ll be back

https://tenor.com/view/exterminador-do-futuro-gif-20118743

[tired valve]

Hey same. high five

[robust sigil]

I am still embarrassed thats all my 13s can do🤣

But I got upgrades in hoarding progress lol

[tired valve]

Oh. I don’t have 13s yet

I’m still trying to get all my buildings to 38

[robust sigil]

I rushed up cause they are very useful for my alliance😂 now I got so much research I can do

[round plover]

113k might lost for me on a 55, 1250 might lost on a 54

[robust sigil]

Holy wowza

[rigid anvil]

I hate reasearch

[robust sigil]

Protons make research tricky imma be a getting a bunch this weekend

[runic stump]

I can't get any protons >.<

no diamonds left

[runic stump]

I'm at 295k lost on a 51, 5800 on a 50

more than 700k lost on a 52

[signal oxide]

Thanks for the new reward System. I was three weeks close to Lady m+ 8 now it will be three more month atleast.

[turbid kraken]

Thoughts on new state NAP since the game has changed a lot since I quit. Should it be NAP10 or NAP15

[olive salmon]

Yeah more work and points required for less rewards when it was said we would get better rewards

[robust sigil]

Idk I'm in a full nap state lol

[turbid kraken]

I cant do a full NAP lol

[signal oxide]

Absolutly. Well if we pay we can get better rewards 😅

[olive salmon]

Too bad my boss gives me no money (wife)

[robust sigil]

I can't help much my opinion dont kill your state or you'll never get stronger thats why I like what my dino state has. Go based on what yall want the state to be like

[olive salmon]

Just crazy 6 million points for for 4 special frags

[turbid kraken]

All of the alliances voted for NAP10. Top ranked alliance is burning everyone who voted for it. I have been playing since the game started and just mind blown with all the changes within the game.

The state itself isnt even active.

[robust sigil]

Good old new state stuff

[runic stump]

I am in a much younger state and also has full state nap; burning people is crap for growth once you are big enough

[turbid kraken]

Yea buddy. Wish my main wasn't destroyed completely so I could just go somewhere else and play l

[turbid kraken]

Thing is. We don't even plunder other alliances. We were using it as a scare tactic to find the active guys and move then to the bigger alliances so they could grow

[vast jay]

my state is a wk participation nap although no one really touches the the non participants

[robust sigil]

Yep. My state when I first arrived had an alliance might nap and everyone was already in it besides bots so we transferred to full state nap lol

[runic stump]

I mean.. if dictators want to be backyard bullies, they are in for a rude awakening when wk happens

[turbid kraken]

NAP15 doesnt even protect the state is the thing.

[robust sigil]

It's new state grow pains it's 50 50 on if it'll be grown past. Worst case get a ticket prepared and stay newer but a bit older that has an established system

[round plover]

Not really

[robust sigil]

1 account maxed on personals ugh

[turbid kraken]

Dont think it can be grown past when the top player makes demeaning remarks about women and wants to burn everyone while singing he is a hippy player

Ugh. Alrighty guys ima talk to my alliance and see what we can find.

[vast jay]

and that's when you try and find a big to come destroy this guy lol

[runic stump]

That is just a backyard bully with no future

Not much you can do in the short term

You can either move to a different state, or wait until such people quit once immigration opens up

[robust sigil]

Believe it or not yes sometimes they do grow out of it ive seen it 👀

But starting with a state can be traumatizing lol

[lean lodge]

My first state almost made me quit the game... 😅

[robust sigil]

Sameeeeeeee lol

Then I got scooped up by the loveliest people

[round plover]

I would say lovely, not the loveliest. You arent with my group! 🤣 🤣 🤣

[plush thorn]

i also got hit when i was small by a toxic player

more like someone else was instigated because of them

made it easier to abandon my old state which then got taken over by chinese lol

[shy dove]

Robbing your own state is counter productive

Dead bases have plenty rss

[runic stump]

when I started, my state had such a person

they eventually quit

[slim burrow]

So what time are we all meeting here to complain about events at reset again? Just needing to write it down in my notes so I don’t miss it

[robust sigil]

Loveliest is definitely correct since I've been with em 4 years in september🤭

[plush thorn]

10 minutes 40 seconds and 56 nano seconds after reset

[lean lodge]

It would be handy to know so I can decamp to another server...

[robust sigil]

Just have a spare 1k days

[slim burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-noted-notes-gif-26231953

[round plover]

Was curious how you would reply lmao.

[slim burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/will-ferrell-old-milwaukee-beer-drink-party-gif-6750648400954534506

[turbid kraken]

All the bigs I knew quit because the game turned too hippy for them with NAPs

[robust sigil]

Lolololol I love my people if I ever leave here there is others with dibs first but I'm with this crew till the wheels fall off

[slim burrow]

What exactly determines a game turning hippy? That’s a new term that I wanna start using

[round plover]

I know that feeling well!!! Agree with it wholeheartedly

[robust sigil]

Imma be real if that's actually a reason people quit good they left lol

[round plover]

You can do all svs without NAPs and get your fill that way - several states do that

[slim burrow]

I used to burn my own states back in the day before it was cool to do.

[robust sigil]

Full Naps aint for everyone but imma be real you wanna build with your state not kill it

[last knoll]

So what they decidecon the rank reward

Will they reroll

[plush thorn]

to be fair its a war game, if someone has a big acc and wants to fight, how would you stop them?

[robust sigil]

Only time will tell

[plush thorn]

its literally part of the game

[slim burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/south-park-comedic-jared-fogle-tickle-monster-animated-gif-16132613828041800478

[round plover]

They probably want to make the bad decision and roll the whole week out first…..

[last knoll]

20 hours is enough

[runic stump]

they get stopped when a bigger state come crush them 🤣

then they quit

[plush thorn]

only if pirates come

[slim burrow]

Honestly. If the hero event determines your happiness with the game, you were never happy to begin with

[plush thorn]

cuz in SVS you can just ignore the enemy

[runic stump]

nah, the backyard bully in my old state quit after being wrecked in wk a few times

[robust sigil]

Doesn't matter if it's a war game if people are up and quiting due to naps stop being in pre set up nap states. Naps aint what's killing crap it's people killing people lol

[plush thorn]

yeah but then again naps are man made not by the game

if the game wanted naps, there would be official rules

[shy dove]

Hasn’t even been 24 hours yet

[plush thorn]

okay but you clearly need to answer us right now how they gonna fix the issue

lol

[robust sigil]

So... thats not the point here... we are talking through how we feel bout certain naps

Alot of us prefer not to kill our state

Even if it's a war game

[shy dove]

I don’t kill my own state, but happily kill mostly all others

[turbid kraken]

NAP is overdone in my opinion. It should be within state but it shouldn't intervene with svs

[shy dove]

Doesn’t have to if you don’t nap

[jagged arrow]

What do you mean by intervene with state v state?

[robust sigil]

I've never had state nap intervene with SvS

Ooooo I forgot to check valiant pairups

[runic stump]

there are naps for valiant? 👀

[proper pagoda]

Are you saying that event like res war, Wasteland, etc should not be have nap?

[proper pagoda]

That would be a boring valiant lol

[shy dove]

Oh heelllllll no

[median osprey]

NAPs are player made. Dont make NAPs, then you dont have such 👀

[robust sigil]

Nooooooo just reminded I never looked after wasteland ended

[vast jay]

the only thing in regards to NAP during valiant is request not to hit certain players cuz they're sick or dead

[runic stump]

I usually don't look until after water wars

[ocean fossil]

@proper pagoda To at least get rewards (especially frags but generally all rewards) on par with what we got before for the same number of points spent.

@proper pagoda To at least get rewards (especially frags but generally all rewards) on par with what we got before for the same number of points spent.

[robust sigil]

I like now if someone gets sick or can't bubble in valiant you can have someone zero you in state and have them bring your rss back to you and your troops are ok lol

[shy dove]

That’s what we do

[runic stump]

can't have a rss problem if you have have any to start with

[robust sigil]

I've had someone in state scout me and tell me to bubble once when I purposely dropped my bubble it was so sweet they were prepared to save my rss😂

Ok if they devs would give me 1 more hero quest I'll only hit them with the frying pan not the chancla

[slim burrow]

Vc naps for everyone!

[proper pagoda]

I haven’t gotten one yet. Betcha I’ll get like 5 after reset though lol

[robust sigil]

Alwaysssss

[proper pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/no-no-no-meme-gif-25174214

[robust sigil]

Our vc will be interesting

We divorced 131 a long time ago good to see em again lol

[runic stump]

my VC states are all tiny

[proper pagoda]

Seems like our matchup too.

[runic stump]

my own state is tiny as well so... 🤣

[robust sigil]

Itty bitty

I think my states like medium size ish

[proper pagoda]

@shy dove Miss our valiants….maybe someday we will be matched up again.

[runic stump]

I guess my best description is lopsided

there's like a dozen big players, then it is just really tiny ones

there's very few medium sized ones

every vc for a very long time has been the big ones just torching every state within the first 90 mins, then nothing happens for the remainder (other than popped bubbles) because no one has troops left

[turbid kraken]

Personally do not feel like it should be a NAP during wlk or events with other states. That is just me though.

[runic stump]

have fun being colonized every wk then

because the medium to smaller players won't have troops to do squat after a few of those

bigger players can't do it themselves

[proper pagoda]

How does leadership in your state feel? NAP isn’t imposed it’s an agreement.

[turbid kraken]

Oh we were forced to agree or get burned. Just got put under state wide.

It is a new state so we don't have svs events yet

[robust sigil]

This makes sense honestly.

We are kinda well built in players of all sizes

[turbid kraken]

I dunno.. I enjoy red screens and the adrenaline. I play because it is a war game lol

[robust sigil]

We recently got a new big guy in state

[runic stump]

you can do whatever you want; just don't expect others to agree with you

because what you want is not what most people want

[slim burrow]

These are individual state rules, not multi state rules. If your state doesn’t want to nap, you don’t have to

[robust sigil]

I prefer naps in WK unless we can take a state lol But if they can take Z and our state tries with all the big guys they can have our hub lol

[robust sigil]

Then deny naps but just know your state might not agree with ya and you might end up napped against your will

[turbid kraken]

Well currently like I said.. we originally voted NAP10 but the top alliance threatened to burn everyone so now we have state wide NAP 😂

I didn't put enough money on my horse to have a leg in the race

[celest turret]

BTW: doing personal hero quests for SD, there is no real reward in Hero Update Event for doing a 3rd, 4th, and 5th hero quest. Repeat: no rewards for 3M-5M points. 2 frags instead of 10. Better or worse?

[robust sigil]

I'm doing doing hero quests tryna find a purple specialty tile lol

Idc if anything lines up lol

[celest turret]

Switching to speedup quests for tomorrow 👍

[cobalt elk]

what would happen if i migrate while i have gov?

[runic stump]

pretty sure you can't

[buoyant marten]

Set an aide and they can do everything

[robust sigil]

You can

[runic stump]

hrm ok

beucase I remember in my old state, when doing alliance merger, one of the bigs said they couldn't fly until they are no longer gov

[robust sigil]

States have been left governorless alot

[severe plaza]

I think the state just doesn't have a gov if you leave

[tired valve]

I just don’t like the no hero naps. Pointless.

[robust sigil]

We run into those alot

[buoyant marten]

Had a governor in 408 fly out the Monday after they got crowned and we took multiple states.

[cobalt elk]

so the aide could activate the state boosts if i leave right

[robust sigil]

I use presets that makes me need to do an extra step lol

[cobalt elk]

the titles and everything would still work and be on the hands of the aide

[tired valve]

They’re so boring. I try not to do them when i run it.

[buoyant marten]

And hand out boxes

[cobalt elk]

already done boxes and titles

[robust sigil]

That mostly probably due to fear of no boosts before the change of aides having the ability

[tired valve]

To be fair, i probably wouldn’t want to fly until I finished out my two weeks.

[runic stump]

oh, that was definitely before aides having the ability

[robust sigil]

I assumed so it was a major reason people who were gov waited or states got mad when govs left state

[gleaming ivy]

[robust sigil]

16 quests done 40 to go lol

[barren leaf]

Hello

[gleaming ivy]

Hello

[robust sigil]

Goodbye lol

[flat totem]

Sh!.down never improved , off week killed.... why I should stay to get bullied everyday? No passion anymore

[robust sigil]

Showdown is decent minus not updated rewards ill take free diamonds lol

[flat totem]

I want rewards for being constant victim !!!!

[gleaming ivy]

Victim?

[flat totem]

All round

[robust sigil]

Hard to be a victim when you willingly participate lol

[gleaming ivy]

That’s what I was thinking

[flat totem]

Thank you

[robust sigil]

I am currently harassing our ally to hit 30 rewards lol

[flat totem]

I started to play as I thought I can relax, but this evolved in crap, I guess mods don't care about us more than devs

[gleaming ivy]

[flat totem]

Pay to win

[gleaming ivy]

I can forward you complaint. Like I have done for 22 hours.

[robust sigil]

Mods are just regular players that volunteer they cannot do much

[gleaming ivy]

That’s the extent of my power

Mods have been at work diligently

[flat totem]

Do so Kazumi and thank you

[robust sigil]

Has anyone done the math of what's better valued in the shop for the cryptic intel thingy... I want triangles but those p2 boxes look like a good deal well better

[flat totem]

I have 2 alliances and helpind a few more. Without stess imposed by game it would be nice. I agree, war game, but once in a week is plenty

[robust sigil]

I run 4 accounts I feel no stress lol

[flat totem]

12 of me arond yet, I gonna abadon some

3 accouts with 4 characters, 2 of 3 vip

[robust sigil]

Idk how people do that many

[flat totem]

Me nighters, scrapping 2 now, wasted money even in peanut size... and time affort

[round plover]

I have 6 accounts, never do more than 3 in a day

Also, what does each color for a persons name mean?

[flat totem]

ONE, done, Joy disappeared

[round plover]

White, light green dark green, pinkish, mods in weird blueish thing

[flat totem]

Sadly I'm R5 x2

[shy dove]

Nah only been compiling reports since last reset

[marsh comet]

Suggestion:
With Zombie Lairs (ZH), it’s easy to lose track of the highest level you’ve been able to solo especially if you haven’t done one in a while. As a smaller player, you rarely start them yourself and mostly just join larger rallies.

The regular zombie stages (up to level 40) handle this better: you can’t start stage 40 until you’ve completed 39. Why isn’t the same system used for Zombie Lairs?

If ZH levels also had to be unlocked one by one, players would always know the highest level they can solo. It would make progression clearer and give more motivation to improve step by step.

[shy dove]

#📝game-suggestions

[round plover]

I dont prefer this as if I am lead in a tower I can have others start a lair and provide the troops to kill it. Also prefer this method for using HM

[shy dove]

This is very dramatic…

[round plover]

Still want to know the ranking system of colors for our names here 🙏

[gleaming ivy]

It’s R2 - R5

You’re R4

[flat totem]

And very true Hela

[gleaming ivy]

Think you need hq 50 for R5

[round plover]

Thanks

Now I need to see what HQ level I am here

[marsh comet]

can't write anything there

[robust sigil]

This pink needs to be reput in the back

[shy dove]

Follow the instructions

[round plover]

!suggest before you write suggestion

[robust sigil]

33

[marsh comet]

I wrote a suggestion

[flat totem]

Trust of ppl maybe?

[round plover]

So I need to talk a lot more often here - got it lol

[gleaming ivy]

What are you even talking about

[queen vale]

If they actually paid attention to suggestions they'd roll back the off week changes...

[robust sigil]

Yerp

[round plover]

Its not something that will be changed in one day

[robust sigil]

Don't expect it to be a quick revert like that

If they revert we will need a patch to fix it I bet

[gleaming ivy]

They reverted ace diamond buy 😂

[round plover]

They will wait to see what the actual impact is on spending. See if it is a reaction or an actual response. Reactions are fueled by emotion, the response that follows is what they will listen to

[flat totem]

Getting tired of updates that killing us, all of us not just me,

[robust sigil]

Yes they did that in a patch didn't they or am I remembering erong?

[shy dove]

Yes, we know

[round plover]

That was my manager-speak for the day lol

[robust sigil]

Can't even spell lol

[gleaming ivy]

It lasted like 3 aces

[marsh comet]

Am I stupid or do I not see any instructions

[robust sigil]

Ok so it was a patch thought so lol

[shy dove]

Scroll up a bit

[shy dove]

Bingo

[robust sigil]

Yep this right here

[runic stump]

I want to not be this dark pink anymore 🤣

[flat totem]

Thank you for support, bed time. And I probably delete game with this thingy... it may make me feel good, no stress no wasted money...

[robust sigil]

Same

I only verified cause it was hidden lol

[gleaming ivy]

Good night

[runic stump]

Oh.. so if you are verified, now it is that ugly color?

[flat totem]

🌹

[robust sigil]

The gor quest of the day... techhhh

[round plover]

Teach you to talk so much 🤣 🤣

[robust sigil]

Hot not gor lol

[runic stump]

I was verified for 7 months before I typed my first chat message 🤣

[round plover]

Gor is better! Especially with Gan in front of it

[robust sigil]

I'm hq92

Don't you face-palm at me mister

[round plover]

Switched it! Lmao

[hazy aspen]

8 days in to the Sim Challenge should i buy the Adv or Expert Challenge or just wait until the next cycle? i need dust and holos, but since i maxed level 6, holos have become scarce.

[round plover]

I buy for the extra tries and dust that you still get overall

[robust sigil]

Holos are mean lol

[round plover]

I got 2 holos this morning - was ecstatic

[robust sigil]

I missed frogs frog reactions 😂

[halcyon pilot]

Think you should be good to clear it…at level 40 horizon hub I can wait even til like the last few days to buy it and clear it

[hazy aspen]

damn, that's AWESOME!!! i got 1 holo in what seems like 2 months.

[halcyon pilot]

Plus you get the extra passes from the purchase

[pseudo umbra]

This pink is horrible, I may have to leave again lol

[runic stump]

I got 1 holo since January

[round plover]

Sometimes its a few weeks, sometimes just three tries between holos 🤣

[robust sigil]

Noooooooo🤣

[hazy aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-delonge-blink182-wtf-meme-what-the-heck-first-date-gif-25383351

[halcyon pilot]

I need 2 more

I got 4 in the last two weeks

[runic stump]

I want to jump now =.=

[halcyon pilot]

Need two more to have 6 then I can buy the merchant lol

[robust sigil]

Most my holos are from the match 3 battles

[round plover]

I needed 2 before this morning, now I need 10 again

[halcyon pilot]

Then it only $32 to do an apex for the upcoming hero

[runic stump]

Mine is from the 21 box; match 3 has not given a holo for at least a year

[hazy aspen]

thanks for the advice @halcyon pilot @round plover

[robust sigil]

Thats my 2nd place. Match 3 for me us great at holo dropping. I think max in 1 day I got 3 match 3s all dropped a holo 😂

[gleaming ivy]

[round plover]

Thats just crazy….

[gleaming ivy]

I auto all my sims now

[robust sigil]

I agree I was scared I broke the game

[runic stump]

According to stats, if holos is actually 5% from match 3.. chances of my luck is less than 1 in a billion; somehow I think the rates are wrong….

[robust sigil]

The rates definitely feel off but match 3 feels the truest for me

[round plover]

I would have been buying more to keep going!!!

[robust sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/wallet-penacony-honkai-star-rail-clockie-no-money-gif-14673244072619990643

That's my wallet for useful stuff lol

[round plover]

https://tenor.com/view/theres-nothing-here-andre-raines-fbi-international-its-blank-its-empty-gif-26087792

[robust sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/its-empty-nothing-blank-empty-space-void-gif-15994573

[round plover]

Dont worry - they improved rewards 🤣 🤣 🤣

[robust sigil]

"improved" cause its improve might week🤣

ill put myself in the corner lol

[pseudo umbra]

I don't think they know what improved means

[robust sigil]

no they only know what more money means lol

[pseudo umbra]

Glad I quit spending

[robust sigil]

just became less ways to spend.. like shiny i can justify the other stuff rarely got good value🤣

[pseudo umbra]

Good value hasn't existed here in quite a while. Shiny is ok but still out of my price range

[robust sigil]

side note... So something i didnt expect with the nuka split was ranking so now im down to 16 perfects till plus 4 ironclaw eeeeeeeek

[pseudo umbra]

Nice

[robust sigil]

every year ive bought that rare 1 50 dollar skin in the shop lol

[pseudo umbra]

I actually went to Nuka not long ago, couldn't find anything open so I left

[gleaming ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/saku-saku-monster-cute-kawaii-mesmerized-gif-16825095705670238348

[robust sigil]

i am in the 40-45 bracket i was actually shocked just gathering 2s i ranked lol

[pseudo umbra]

I'm still a small 38

[robust sigil]

i am a baby 40

[pseudo umbra]

Just a baby

[robust sigil]

im very baby 1.67b might with 633m true might

[pseudo umbra]

I haven't grown at all since I left here. Still at 1.4b 575m true. Still doing the same % on 48s.

[light bobcat]

You all need to join weight watchers

[gleaming ivy]

It’s been a while since you left here too

[light bobcat]

For oversized hqs

[robust sigil]

48s are still good

[pseudo umbra]

Yeah, I just kinda lost interest. I don't even log on daily

[robust sigil]

i figured as much when ya just up and disappeared

[pseudo umbra]

I'm surprised my alliance hasn't been disbanded yet

[gleaming ivy]

T - minus 44 minutes

[robust sigil]

froooggg powerrr lol

[gleaming ivy]

I just tooo over an alliance. Who everyone been offline for 25-34 months

[pseudo umbra]

Wow, that's a long time

[robust sigil]

the disband system is so odd

[pseudo umbra]

That it is

[prime herald]

Anyone know if the rest of the week will be “normal” according to the event calendar

Or are we guessing at reset each day lol

[gleaming ivy]

Yeah probably not at this point

[plush thorn]

28 minutes

get ready for the chaos

[prime herald]

I’m trying to plan my farms SD events with what should be improve might week lol

[gleaming ivy]

Plan for more surprises

[prime herald]

So at reset all states lose 50% might because Thanos snapped?

[gleaming ivy]

We have no clue

[prime herald]

And the event is train 67.897 billion might for 1 frag and a can of Stam

[robust sigil]

mods prepare slowmode lol

[elder stump]

Need backup [ZOO]KitKat678 S:927 X:237 Y:575

[fossil knoll]

Lol!

[robust sigil]

we cant help

[noble sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/shhh-shush-silence-nose-gif-17895433

[noble sandal]

I had my popcorn ready but there's only grass

[prime herald]

Same I’m like wait there are no s’mores or bubbles

[gleaming ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-run-slow-motion-runs-gif-23971894

[round plover]

They are parked inside another alliance - looks like they created their own without moving lol

[onyx vine]

https://tenor.com/view/letsgetdrunk-dametime-gif-18178071

[fossil knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/look-out-incoming-clone-troopers-star-wars-the-bad-batch-be-careful-everyone-watch-out-everyone-gif-15456826116843132267

Reset is almost here!

[onyx vine]

i think something that was glossed over in all the chaos yesterday was that with this new interface, you can no longer see your exact points just a 3-digit representation

almost as if they want us to blindly use materials to reach the targets and overshoot the mark

[fossil knoll]

Hmm... Thanks for pointing that out Killa!

[shy dove]

I’m ready…

[robust sigil]

278 days did I do that math right? For all phases

[gleaming ivy]

Joy coins still

[robust sigil]

I rounded up its like 277. Something something

[severe sonnet]

13.88 SD quests worth of points!

[robust sigil]

Lordt lol

[gleaming ivy]

Let’s round up to 14

[hexed cedar]

[azure jolt]

The rage continues today. I was so close to getting the twins to 8+ 😭

[severe sonnet]

So slightly more expensive compared to hero days 12 SDs worth of quests

[robust sigil]

So all 14 showdown quests need to be speedy lol

[broken moat]

Hey so, anyone know who pissed off the devs to the point they added this virology lab bs for research?

[gleaming ivy]

What do you mean

[fresh vortex]

I'm just here to confirm one more day. Indeed, it's too much for so few rewards. It's better to wait for Leah, because doing this event is a waste. It's a shame for those who train as Fighters or Shooters.

[grim lion]

Is this where we complain about the new hero quest? I used 5 240 alliance showdown quests that would have got me 12 shards, I got 4 and didn’t finish level 2. Seems like a money grab and I’m not spending on no good rewards

[gleaming ivy]

Please we understand frustration. Let’s give the devs some constructive feedback

[broken moat]

I mean having virology labs never used to be a requirement for upgrading your research lab. They're absolutely useless buildings that no one uses.

[onyx vine]

76 blueprints and still no apex drill 😭
it’s gonna take me all 100

[leaden arrow]

…can we discuss the trap factory

[gleaming ivy]

You’ve always needed virolabs

[onyx vine]

virology labs were a prerequisite for building all the way up to hq35

[broken moat]

Absolutely false. I don't have any, and I'm level 30.

[broken moat]

Oh god, what did they do to the trap factory?

[fresh vortex]

Maybe I wasn't clear, but that's what I tried to do. It really makes being a Shooter or Fighter much more difficult; the event is so bad and it takes forever to get the heroes. ACE which is for riders is the only option now.

[gleaming ivy]

You need atleast 1 of every building to move forward

[floral minnow]

Does anyone know how long ago Joy Coins got added to New Development?

[onyx vine]

then you’ve been building wrong because it’s been known that they’ve been a requirement for years

[broken moat]

I powered from 27-30 without any so... Idk what to tell ya.

[severe sonnet]

Probably just hit 30, Virology is a requirement for Research Center from 30-34

[runic stump]

you don't need the lab whatsoever at hq29

you need it for 31 research center

[broken moat]

Oh so that's what's going on. Wow.

[stable robin]

I was hoping yesterday's change was just a bad nightmare

[leaden arrow]

Awhile ago

[runic stump]

and have to keep upgrading it for 32 - 35 research center

[stable robin]

I was wrong unfortunately

[shy dove]

You are 24 hours late

[onyx vine]

you actually do for the main quests which go up to hq30

[runic stump]

mine says get hq 30 for main quest; ain't doing it ever 🤣

[broken moat]

Oh wow that's stupid. So everyone has to waste a building slot. Alright I guess that's just how it is... Still stupid. 😂

[gleaming ivy]

Yes

[stable robin]

I just did 100 rolls for joy and only completed 2 phases lol

And got very crappy rewards

[runic stump]

technically you can knock it down after reserach center 36, if you don't plan to go past 40; but you'd need eons to rebuild that thing

[shy dove]

Message your GM
Message CS
Upvote in #📝game-suggestions

Everything else just gets buried here when it’s busy

[stable robin]

Already messaged my GM numerous times lol

[floral minnow]

The drop rate seems to be broken. I've run a full 50 every 3-4 times it comes up, and only had 3 non-guaranteed boxes in that time, far lower than the drop rate which would say I should get them just less than every 3 runs

[gleaming ivy]

Your guaranteed 1 at 50

That’s all really

[shy dove]

It’s 1 per 50

[plush thorn]

yknow they will probably fix it and not reimburse the people

[gleaming ivy]

I rarely get 2

[shy dove]

[shy dove]

Once in a blue moon

[plush thorn]

i wanna use joycoins

[stable robin]

Like they are all saying getting more than 1 every 50 is luck

[plush thorn]

but this stupid event update gives me no twins shards

[floral minnow]

Yes, but the drop %s for normal rolls is about 0.85%, so just less than one in every 100 (2 runs)

[plush thorn]

by the way i think a shovel event is coming soon

[shy dove]

You are guaranteed 1 per 50

[gleaming ivy]

So it’s 2 at 100 guaranteed

[shy dove]

50 coins = 100%

[stable robin]

Probably a shovel event style for one of these events

[plush thorn]

check last event

the carneval raffle

[gleaming ivy]

Lucky.

[floral minnow]

Yes, I'm getting that one. It's the extra ones from normal spins that seem to have a broken drop rate

[plush thorn]

it has a 1* item thats all shovels hqs

[rich delta]

보상차이....

[stable robin]

It's not

[rich delta]

장난합니까!

[shy dove]

We know
Unfortunately

[shy dove]

You get extra ones?

[gleaming ivy]

네. 보상이 매우 불균형합니다. 우리는 이 문제를 해결하기 위해 노력하고 있으며 상위 경영진과 연락하고 있습니다.

[floral minnow]

According to this it should be just over 0.85% change of getting the extra ones, which works out as just less than one extra per 2 sets of 50. I'm getting far far less than that, barely 1 extra per 10 runs if I'm lucky!

[gleaming ivy]

These are the drop rates for joy

[rich delta]

이건 말도 안돼요

[gleaming ivy]

So not even a whole %

[gleaming ivy]

우리 모두 당신의 의견에 동의합니다

[floral minnow]

1 in 117, so more frequently than 1 in 3 runs

[weary tulip]

So 277 days to finish this off week event. I hope the devs step on a Lego honestly

[jagged arrow]

You will soon if you go above 30

[onyx vine]

that’s the chance for every spin that is done (aka every coin that is used), not a drop rate saying “you are guaranteed this 0.85 times out of every 100 spins”

[broken moat]

Yeah I just learned the frustrating way things are different after 30. 😂 Like... Why make such a useless building a requirement? 😂

[zinc yoke]

Does the translator in chat work for outgoing posts or only incoming ?

[floral minnow]

I know it's not guaranteed, but to get close to the advertised percentage, after about 30 runs, I'd need to get 7 extra jackpots in my next run! That's not just random chance working against me surely? Not when other members of my alliance are getting extra jackpots every other run!

[solemn dagger]

Who is iron claw and how do I buy him

[robust sigil]

Troop size hero and in the mall

[gleaming ivy]

Pns % isn’t you get extra jackpots at 117. It’s % per roll

[forest loom]

Don't buy anything in this game

[gleaming ivy]

So all your rolls start fresh

[shy dove]

Message your GM
Message CS
Upvote in #📝game-suggestions

[solemn dagger]

In the mall??

[robust sigil]

Cash mall

[severe sonnet]

You forgot the 4th line, don't bubble this weekend!

[gleaming ivy]

Yeah!

[solemn dagger]

Yeah I found

[floral minnow]

Yes, I get that, but over time it should average out at about 1 in 117, not 1 in 1000 as it currently is! If you rolled a regular dice 600 times you'd expect close to 100 rolls of a 6, not 3, and if you did you'd expect it to be a weighted dice!

[robust sigil]

Time to promote so many troops my rss zeroed again lol

[shy dove]

That’s % PER ROLL
Not accumulating

[gleaming ivy]

Per roll.

And you can tag me and not silent tag me

I don’t mind

[noble sandal]

@gleaming ivy why?

[onyx vine]

Okay but you’re not understanding that it’s not an advertisement. it’s saying you have a 0.067% chance for 3 jackpot boxes OR 0.186% chance for 2 jackpot boxes OR 0.604% chance for 1 jackpot box OR 2.219% chance for 20 P2 boxes etc per coin used

[weary tulip]

Ohhh I did don’t worry lol Chris got an earful

[gleaming ivy]

So I can respond

[noble sandal]

To what?

[shy dove]

Not me

🤣

[gleaming ivy]

lol

[gleaming ivy]

To you

[runic stump]

mine went to zero beacuse of revenge res; I did revenge res on my farm and nuka acc, so they can't feed main anymore

[noble sandal]

i'm enjoying my popcorn in a state above 703

[gleaming ivy]

For now

[little monolith]

One of my mains is above 703, the other two are in the 500s, so I get to be constantly reminded of what we used to get / what I have to NOT look forward to lol

[floral minnow]

Yes, I know it's not guaranteed 1 in 117, but if I should have a 1 in 117 chance of getting jackpot boxes and they're only dropping 1 in 1117, then it seems like something is wrong.

[noble sandal]

hopefully there's enough outrage that they improve it before it hits my state

[gleaming ivy]

We can only hope

[onyx vine]

that’s not how chance works

[shy dove]

Not how it works

[robust sigil]

I gathered some rss up with plans of a 2nd march of 13s lol

There is so much logic trying to be forced into pns my head hurts lol

[onyx vine]

1 in 117 is a 1 in 117 chance every time you roll the dice. it is not cumulative. you could roll the dice 117 times and get the prize 100 in 117
you could roll the dice 500 times and not land the 1 in 117 prize once

[noble sandal]

It’s exponential

[fossil knoll]

It should be noted that getting a non-guaranteed jackpot is rare enough to warrant an acheivement for getting one! 😄

I've only gotten a couple in the almost-5 years I've been playing

[floral minnow]

I understand that, but with enough rolls it would average out to around 1 in 117. If you rolled a 6 sided dice 600 times, you'd expect about 90-110 of each number to have shown up. Not only three 6s and more of the rest.

[gleaming ivy]

It’s rare

[mighty goblet]

278 days of speedups for 8 frags? They can kiss my peanuts.

[runic stump]

meanwhile the farms will probably get that every month

[low pike]

Just so you know....
Max points requirements for new development
6,667 1hr speedups

• or -
  300 joy coin spins...

[onyx vine]

and the chances are a lot slimmer than a 6-sided dice. it’s a 117 sided dice 😂

[shy dove]

We know

[robust sigil]

Right so gross lol

[shy dove]

Message your GM
Message CS
Upvote in #📝game-suggestions

[low pike]

Just posting so everyone knows how greedy PnS is being

[runic stump]

or a 9 and 13 sided die, and both rolling 1

[floral minnow]

Yes, and the chances I'm getting are so slim that 1 in 117 looks practically obese in comparison!

[gleaming ivy]

You can also message me construction criticism

[noble sandal]

Have u got that on cut and paste?

[gleaming ivy]

My dm are turned off so I’ll forward all to koji

[onyx vine]

because you’re expecting cumulative chance. luck is luck 🤷🏼‍♀️

[shy dove]

Add something we can forward

[robust sigil]

Lol you gave up taking dms

[low pike]

PnS is a bunch of greedy *** ****

Forward that

[noble sandal]

That’s not very constructive though

[shy dove]

Ive been playing 4.5 years, getting more than 1 jackpot per 50 coins I can count probably still in the single digits 😂

[silver grotto]

I got 8 frags yesterday from 2.8m hero points, under the new one I'd get a whole 2. Thankfully I only need 14 flights to move forward lmao

[shy dove]

Super helpful

[gleaming ivy]

That’s very constructive

[runic stump]

my 1 year old farm is already in the doube digits for that

keyword being.. farm

[gleaming ivy]

The very very first time I had joy coins. I got 3 boxes. Never again

[shy dove]

They are evil

[robust sigil]

Double the frags make the points for each phase half of what they are... is that asking too much? Or is that still too much... I got some chanclas coming for the devs lol

[shy dove]

Better than just complaining 24 hours straight

[little monolith]

if every time you roll it's 1 in 117, then over a large enough sample it will likely average out to 0.85% of your rolls, but it takes a pretty large sample to actually average out.

Especially since the game will maliciously take your main's jackpots and award them to your farms instead. Or so it seems sometimes. I am still bitter about the time one of my farms got a x2 and x3 natural jackpot plus the guaranteed in 50 spins while my main spinning the same day got just the single guaranteed x1 lol.

[sharp swallow]

In Other Word F to shooter build and Fighter Build.

Its ACE aka Rider Or Nothing 😂😂😂💀

[robust sigil]

I am still gonna silent complain by threatening to throw stuff at the devs lol

[shy dove]

https://tenor.com/view/ill-allow-it-gif-9328164

[azure jolt]

Just spun the 50 joy coins. It gets you to 975K points, which is the second prize in phase 2 in New Development. We are going to have to save a lot more coins now.

[gleaming ivy]

300

[robust sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/crushed-it-gif-18087987023179949748

[floral minnow]

My 'farm' is essentially another main, and gets just as much luck on Joy Coins, that 3 in over 2 years included the one I got on there!

[silver grotto]

Im sure the devs have the normal point distribution of event days, I know it would require math but they definitely could have it so we at least match the frags we would normally see through frags being spread more evenly

If the event is supposed to be an "upgrade"

[modest sluice]

Would I loose joy coins if I immigrate?

[little monolith]

no

[shy dove]

No

[robust sigil]

No

[sharp swallow]

They Want Us to Join PnC & White Out survival. Thats why they Keep asking about it in Survey

[onyx vine]

they don’t own whiteout survival

[runic stump]

I think that is still less frags than the old method

[gleaming ivy]

No and no

[robust sigil]

The triple no🤣

[mighty goblet]

I don’t know if I can really say anything constructive that others haven’t already. I’m upvoting all the posts in suggestions. But it is abhorrent to me that I could use about half the speedups needed for P3 reward and rank Top 5% or higher and nab 12-15 frags. Now I would get 4.

Make that make sense. I dare them

[robust sigil]

I got told to make a solution I didn't say my solution was reasonable currently lol

[modest sluice]

Fantastic, then I'm not doing anything in this garbage week and save them all

[sharp swallow]

Own it or not. The amount of push out is not healthy 😂

[gleaming ivy]

Thanks goober

[runic stump]

2.4m pts in hero got me 10 frags on the old system; it shouldn't be any less than that

[shy dove]

It’s more impactful when we can say
Here look 23,000 players upvoted this etc. vs just saying they are saying sht

[onyx vine]

they’re asking about it because it makes a 💩load of money and they’re planning to rip off more from it.

they’ve already ripped at least 2 events directly from it

[shy dove]

Numbers are great to forward

[gleaming ivy]

That’s not helpful

[onyx vine]

https://tenor.com/view/bane-no-banned-and-you-are-explode-gif-16047504

[shy dove]

Rip you

[bleak raven]

So lemme get this straight:

1. we used to get a group of rewards per completed phase, now we only get 1

2. it takes 3x more points to get even a single Twins frag where we used to get 6-8 for comparable points, making it near impossible for f2p players

3. somehow we’re getting more rewards than with the ranking system?

Edit: even phase 1 points are not the same as promised

[mighty goblet]

Yep, I totally understand. I’m trying to boost the posts with the data breakdowns and doing my own math to help support it. It’s the best I can do aside from closing my wallet.

[gleaming ivy]

Skipping naps all week

[shy dove]

Message your GM
Message CS
Upvote in #📝game-suggestions

[sharp swallow]

If your Higher ups cant read comprehension written towards them due to frustration they created for the player base. Then i dont know what to say to them 😊

[gleaming ivy]

Our higher up is being helpful forwarding everything

[shy dove]

It’s a business, you counter with numbers and solutions

[rose tinsel]

Not happy with new hero Monday quest, all the inventory, time effort and money. Please rethink this, it is not worth it to me to do as much as I did and fall that short

[shy dove]

Message your GM
Message CS
Upvote in #📝game-suggestions

[gleaming ivy]

Message Hela too

[shy dove]

FCK no

[gleaming ivy]

😂😂😂

[azure jolt]

What's a GM?

[rose tinsel]

I think my gm quit, seriously who?

[azure jolt]

The General Manager of PNS?

[gleaming ivy]

I think I only had a total of 5 dm yesterday

[gleaming ivy]

Who was your gm

[shy dove]

Who was yours?

[sharp swallow]

Who was your Comfy Coffee man

[gleaming ivy]

Also note GMs are being bombarded with DMs. They might not make it to all right away

[runic stump]

most players never got a gm in the first place

[gleaming ivy]

I just message one

[rose tinsel]

I had Chris then Zayn

[shy dove]

The ones with official in their names

[gleaming ivy]

Zayn will respond

[sharp swallow]

Well they had it Coming

[shy dove]

Zayn still active

[gleaming ivy]

They arnt dev’s lol

[robust sigil]

Just make sure to message the bot Zayn

[azure jolt]

I thought those were bots

[gleaming ivy]

They are real people

[shy dove]

Negative

[robust sigil]

Real peeps

[runic stump]

there's an actual person behind the copy pasted event messages

[sharp swallow]

But they are the Communication face that interact with Player Base

[runic stump]

for when you have actual questions

[robust sigil]

Was always weird when Bruce used to message in here before the bot acvounts

[onyx vine]

they changed to “bot” accounts so they show as always online.

it gives the illusion that they have 24 hour service when they 100% do not

[shy dove]

I dare say mods are the community interaction face 😆

[mighty goblet]

How do I identify who my GM is? I don’t want to send my corporate rage mail to the wrong person.

[sharp swallow]

At this point they are punch bag 💀

[latent pike]

Why dont they cut to the chase and just charge daily to log in

[shy dove]

Message your GM
Message CS
Upvote in #📝game-suggestions

[mighty goblet]

Mods don’t deserve to get flamed when they have absolutely zero control over game changes

[gleaming ivy]

Let’s not go that far lol

[sharp swallow]

Yamate Kudasai 😭

Dont give them this idea

[azure jolt]

Who are those people in the "creator" tab?

[gleaming ivy]

We are lol

[latent pike]

Not to far off lol

[gleaming ivy]

They make guides

[shy dove]

We make guides, videos

[azure jolt]

Righto

[rose tinsel]

Well… here is my answer…. Your message could not be delivered. This is usually because you don't share a server with the recipient or the recipient is only accepting direct messages from friends. You can see the full list of reasons here: https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/360060145013

[gleaming ivy]

Don’t direct anger to them

[sharp swallow]

" Mr beast" equivalent of Pns.

[gleaming ivy]

Your settings are set up wrong

[shy dove]

Check your settings to allow messages from this server

[azure jolt]

I thought maybe they were the game creators... but i see.

[onyx vine]

make sure this setting is turned on for the server

[shy dove]

Nope

[gleaming ivy]

Only names that say official next to them have real jobs

[rose tinsel]

Ok thank you, that worked

[gleaming ivy]

We need a good event now

[runic stump]

give me doomland and I'll be happy

[gleaming ivy]

Doomsday?

[runic stump]

yeh

[robust sigil]

I agree I want a doomsday

[gleaming ivy]

I was thinking like trials haha

But doomsday might be a distracting

[harsh plinth]

Give me resivour tournament and I will be happy

[runic stump]

I don't like res tournament

I cant even participate

unless they make bigger brackets or a 3rd field

[gleaming ivy]

I like to endorse

[robust sigil]

I have a feeling if they really are bringing tourney back we will have a doomsday before it

[gleaming ivy]

Don’t forget to sign up for tundra too

[runic stump]

without a bracket expansion, no one in my state will participate in res tourney 🤣

[robust sigil]

I complained the whole time I signed up lol

[runic stump]

my main complaint about tundra is farms get nothing from it

becuase it is basicallyu a full hands on deck event, and I don't have multiple devices to work with

[robust sigil]

My main complaint is too much to fight and too much focus required

Funny right? I like fighting but tundra too much lol

[runic stump]

depends on the match

last time I basically spawn camped

[gleaming ivy]

I don’t know. But I liked it

[runic stump]

wasn't much to fight for since there are only 4 contested tiles ever

[noble sandal]

look what i did

0.67% chance

[runic stump]

nice

[gleaming ivy]

Don’t show that one guy

Let’s not spread false information

[onyx vine]

0.067% 😉

[noble sandal]

ewps forgot a 0

[runic stump]

I got the normal treatment

2 packs in 100 coins

[gleaming ivy]

So tomorrow

Probably also 300 joy coins

[glacial fjord]

Morning all

[gleaming ivy]

Good morning captain

So only 1 suggestion from reset today?

[vast jay]

make it 2 i repeated myself from yesterday

[noble sandal]

i got 10 hero frags and another 1+2 boxes in the next 50

[runic stump]

I got no frags

ofc, it's not the farm pulling this time

so no luck

[round plover]

Was new development speedup based last time?

[runic stump]

always have been

[gleaming ivy]

Yeah

[runic stump]

ace is might gain, dev is speedups

[robust sigil]

Are you ok? It's always been

[round plover]

I am exhausted and couldnt remember is all lol

Only time I ever completed it before was with joy coins - no need to look at rewards for this one

[onyx vine]

he’s old give him a break 😂

[round plover]

Old - tired - and getting hangry

[tribal spire]

Am I the only one that doesn’t like the new changes? The frags are harder to get now

[onyx vine]

haven’t seen a single person like the changes 😂

[tribal spire]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-nickelodeon-sigh-phew-gif-17350309669815909939

[olive salmon]

3 mil points for some special frags haha what a joke

Just 139 days of speed ups

[robust sigil]

Fair enough point lol

[gleaming ivy]

Message your GM
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Upvote in #📝game-suggestions

[cinder basin]

Which 2 hero should i use

Or should I upgrade tomoyo

[tribal spire]

I see mantis in a lot of high level arena fights

[runic stump]

mantis is useful for free players in arena and alliance trial

a high level optimus is usually a singificantly better option; but that is expensive as hell for new players to get

[vast jay]

mantis is useful as it dispels the skills from mccarty and agent x and others

[cinder basin]

thank you

[runic stump]

I haven't used my mantis ever since getting +5 optimus

[ivory tundra]

I would unlock every hero first before building any of them

[runic stump]

the above is a very good idea

every computer holder is nice extra stats

[shy dove]

Yes, the very only one

[sharp swallow]

Only way to survive this whole New Dev is troop training 😭

[sharp swallow]

Rich kiddo 😭

[runic stump]

I wish I'm young again

[sharp swallow]

I wish i am rich again.
Fifa Made me broke

[cinder basin]

someone help me choose my line up. I’m a fighter main

[robust sigil]

Ulrik, meyers,seo yun,noct... do ya got sanguine too?

[cinder basin]

Yes

[robust sigil]

Focus those 5. You can work on Zephyr to replace noct

Zephyr will need to be plus 5 when ya put him in. The rest I started out with before plus 5 tho lol

Side note i got 2 full marches of 13s now lol

[cinder basin]

Sheeesh

[runic stump]

personally, I'd get barbie and queenie to +5 immediately (it shouldn't take long at all), 5* cards go to urik, 4* cards go to seo; 5th hero is just the free requiem you'll get from lairs, as the starting point

[cinder basin]

I’ve been playing for 2 weeks now and still clueless in the game lol

[robust sigil]

I personally never uses them I dive straight into a 2 5 star 2 4 star and noct lineup for my fighter and it did really well since they are all easy access as well

So the easy argument goes for both lineups

[runic stump]

it takes a LONG time to get that going

[robust sigil]

Don't freak out ive been playing since February 2021 and just got hq40 lol

Actually not really

I thought so as well but in reality the lineup I shared was the 1 I used on my fighter since she started and that was before main alliance benefits

I upgraded all 5 of those fast even being in farm alliances

[runic stump]

when you don't have big players running high lairs for you constantly, it will probably take you at least 6 months to get both urik and meyers to +5 if not longer

[robust sigil]

And yes I hate my fighter account

[robust sigil]

You really missed what I said

I upgraded those 5 fighter heros fast being in farm alliances that weren't extremely active

[runic stump]

this is 8 months... 🤣

[cinder basin]

Oh sheesh hahaha u guys are too strong in this game

[robust sigil]

Nah I'm a weakling lol

My fighter account is still t9

[ruby yew]

did agent x have a face lift (and potential something else lift)?

[robust sigil]

Her face has been like that

[runic stump]

doubt they have the budget for that

[cinder basin]

So it was a bad idea to go fighter? Hahaha

[ruby yew]

[robust sigil]

If you dont plan on spending alot yes

[lost grove]

Wait a sec, the buy energy counter resets everyday?

For the puzzle event

[cinder basin]

Well that sucks hahaha it is what it is I guess

[robust sigil]

You can stick to it if you don't mind it being teeth grinding

[runic stump]

pretty big understatement there; if you are not willing to spend a LOT, it will take you many months longer to get going as a fighter

and you'll continue to progress slower

fight is for the big spenders

[cinder basin]

Oh

What is the best role then

[runic stump]

pick rider or shooter if you are not willing to spend a few hudnred a week; those 2 works well for free/low spenders

[cinder basin]

Got it

[robust sigil]

Riders are cheaters

Shooters are fun

Hally is scared of shooters go shooter lol

🤣

[vast jay]

i went fighter cuz ulrik was the first apex weapon i got

[robust sigil]

you think wooden spoons would scarr the devs?

All my accounts are the mains they are due to their first 5 star

That's why I got 1 shooter... 2 riders... and a dumb fighter account

[cinder basin]

Yeah the first 5 star i got was fighter so I went with fighter hahaha

[slim burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/winning-win-happy-mothers-day-game-playing-cards-gif-7150303469555007947

[cinder basin]

Well i guess i’ll see where it takes me or i’ll start upgrading and training other roles

[robust sigil]

Playing uno by yourself?

[tribal quail]

And he's still losin

[onyx vine]

saying that shooters progress easier than fighters is crazy 😂

[robust sigil]

Yea I can see that he should not have that many cards lol

[tribal quail]

I definitely wouldn't be smilin!

[robust sigil]

It's not easier but definitely way more fun to grow shooters lol

[runic stump]

pretty sure my nuka acc would be trying to scrap together lvl 3s in nuka instead of fighting for ore boxes if I went fighter

[onyx vine]

because fighters have a type disadvantage against riders which is what the majority of players choose

[runic stump]

for a new player, where you get protected bracket benefits; it is a lot harder to build heroes as a fighter

for rider and shooter, you can walk away with all your main heros at +7/8 when protected bracket ends; no chance for figter

free players/low spenders will probably never get to your size to experience your slowdown 🤣

[onyx vine]

only if you’re already a spender

[slim burrow]

Just think of all those +4’s I’m ready to stack on a poor feller

[onyx vine]

you can’t win nuka without spending especially in the protected bracket where you see all hq levels

[runic stump]

oh I don't mean nuka at all

in protected bracket, it takes very little to get 1% rewards

that is what build up heroes fast for new players

[onyx vine]

and you realise new states alternate in groups of whether zephyr or phoenix is available first right

[runic stump]

yep

shooters get to just do nothing in ace week; that is enough free stuff to just get 1% nonstop once you get the zephyr/phoenix choice card

and by the time lady m join pool, phoenix should already be close to +8

[onyx vine]

so do fighters…..

[runic stump]

and by the time twins join the pool, once of them will be 7, one will be 8

problem with fighter is you also want wali, since getting nataly or hanyu to useful status is basically impossible

so you kinda need to dive both sides

[onyx vine]

and wali takes as long to become available as the twins do

🤦🏼‍♀️

[runic stump]

you are just going to be a hero down basically an eternity after protected bracket ends, while shooter already have all their main heros done

[onyx vine]

🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️

[robust sigil]

I need to find 15.7% shooter attack to reach my 8k goal

[runic stump]

1 bio mod?

[mystic meadow]

hi

[gleaming ivy]

Hi

[gleaming ivy]

If you click on the number show you the exact number you have

[onyx vine]

we shouldn’t have to do anything extra to see our proper score

[sullen inlet]

They need to switch these hero frags cause twins, phx and zephyr been +8 for a while now 😭

[robust sigil]

No they dont... you shush... my phoenix still plus 5 and twins plus 6 lol

My Zephyr will stay plus 3 awhile lol

[noble sandal]

I’ll make sure to put it in my report for you

[sullen inlet]

👏🏾

[sullen inlet]

Lmaoo

[round plover]

I saw a lot of trash talking fighters earlier……

[lethal bloom]

is the New Development event worth spending all my speedups on?

[bleak raven]

Nothing with these new events is worth spending any goods on. You get crap

[round plover]

Constructive feedback = devs, do better than this please

[bleak raven]

To give you an idea, 50 joy coins and 60 days of speeds later, and you still can’t get any twins frags

[robust sigil]

You are the only fighter ill somewhat accept and maybe bj lol

[round plover]

You have a better chance of getting rewards from Ace week

[tribal quail]

Hey wait 😭

Though, I have a shooter too.

[robust sigil]

Oh you are a fighter... oops

[tribal quail]

Its okay, I wouldn't accept mine either 🤣

[sullen inlet]

3k is wild

[round plover]

3k is normal for that slot

[robust sigil]

I guess you can join the acceptable fighters list lol

[tribal quail]

I feel like im in a club now! But do i have to be nice to bj?

[shy dove]

Message your GM
Message CS
Upvote in #📝game-suggestions

[shy dove]

You are missing the Silencio feeding

[tribal quail]

[robust sigil]

Nope cause I aint

[onyx vine]

still learning how expensive the game is after how long?

[shy dove]

We know

Message your GM
Message CS
Upvote in #📝game-suggestions

[onyx vine]

that hq skin was $2000 straight up when it released

[sullen inlet]

Never gonna stop

[lethal bloom]

Im stuck at 9-9

😦

Did I mess up my build

[shy dove]

Ran out of protons 🥺 🥺 🥺

[lost grove]

Nice, hope it’s worth, I’ll be looking for your next posts during valiant haha

[shy dove]

https://tenor.com/view/science-shake-bill-n-and-tyne-eyeglasses-gif-16807430

[noble sandal]

Mines 0%

[magic basin]

Ya'll had protons?

[gleaming ivy]

“Had”

[noble sandal]

I did a L10 war fury last week. That hit hard.

[magic basin]

I'll spend my diamonds some day

[jagged fiber]

The new system would be fine if they adjusted the points to scale with how ranked rewards worked.

But page 3 being so many points and getting you nowhere near as many frags is unacceptable

No reason to change a system that wasn't broke IMO... but they want to make more money, so...

[round plover]

Check out the suggestions page and upvote things

[jagged fiber]

Yeahh 🤣 hopefully they get read

[cobalt bridge]

I wrote CS, but am I right with my math?

I got 6,667 1-hr speed ups to finish the event and then I would have the option to spend $50 to buy rewards that would cost $40-45 dollars in the store?

[valid oar]

Guten Morgen,
ich bin völlig entsetzt über die Änderungen am Event- und Belohnungssystem. So macht das Game weder Sinn noch Spaß.
Ich habe mein Abo gekündigt und werde keinen Cent mehr ausgeben für so eine unfaire Änderung.
You are riding your cash cow to death...

[shy dove]

We wouldn’t tell you to upvote if we didn’t forward the results

[shy dove]

Message your GM
Message CS
Upvote in #📝game-suggestions

[round plover]

Sounds close to it at least lol

[silk pulsar]

277.777... days of speedups. For 14 frags

[round plover]

The mods take the best care of us they can and our votes there help them have a data point to reference in their reports

[jagged fiber]

I trust the mods ❤️

[gleaming ivy]

[magic basin]

Remember, upvoting and having suggestions with hundreds or thousands has more of an impact than 50 suggestions with under 50 upvotes each. Upvote what's already posted!

[last knoll]

The mod sucks

[shy dove]

https://tenor.com/view/the-big-lebowski-thats-like-your-opinion-man-gif-15076479

[last knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-spongebob-spongebob-meme-meme-boo-gif-9741212224162454141

[hexed cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/peek-peeking-spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-nickelodeon-gif-2536570914329956291

[shy dove]

We are looking forward to your application as mod
Please show us the way

[hexed cedar]

[gleaming ivy]

[hasty condor]

Some dummy question, if your state is taken so rss tax will come from transport tax right? If so, when a state have gov, those transport tax is vanish? 🫣🫣

[median osprey]

Yes, taxes from rss Transfer as well as stealing rss from hq attacks gets send to the conquering state coffers. If there is a gov the taxes still exist, but just disappear (get no where send)

[gleaming ivy]

I was looking through the 75 gift boxes today and not one towards the new development 🫠

[ocean fossil]

To at least get rewards (especially frags but generally all rewards) on par with what we got before for the same number of points spent.

[ruby yew]

what is phase 1-3 in the new new development?

[deep wigeon]

it's crazy

[ruby yew]

how do you know?

[deep wigeon]

someone said you need 227 days of speedups

or 300 joy coins

we are lucky

to have the old one lol

[ruby yew]

https://tenor.com/view/bender-bender-whoa-whoa-futurama-awooga-gif-21438507

[lofty hamlet]

This will make people want to go to new servers to avoid being stunted at growing as a ftp

[deep wigeon]

phase 3

[lofty hamlet]

Or quit the game altogether because every aspect is turning into a money grab

[runic stump]

After a year, finally beat 3-14-6

Pretty sure I’d have died without mecha stats

[silver grotto]

Its a crazy level

I occasionally do a try, but I really cba most of the time

[last knoll]

I retired at 3-11

[frail flower]

Day #2 of time spent on discord instead of playing the game 🙄 3300 hours speedups to get the first additional frags

[runic stump]

Mythic cores, apex weapon, mecha stats, I just barely made it

[frail flower]

I expected a rollback at this point, it's not that hard

[last knoll]

I'm going to newer state i guess if they don't reroll

[barren leaf]

Yall think anyone has spent over a million dollars on this game

[shy dove]

Not how it works

[last knoll]

Yes a guy name king

[shy dove]

Ace reversal took 3aces

[barren leaf]

Really you think a million

I think 500k for king

[runic stump]

I like how the campaign levels after is just.. agent x, win

[gleaming ivy]

It will trickle into newer states too.

[shy dove]

Nah, not a million

[runic stump]

I guess if you are always flying to states between 1 - 2 years old, you stay in the old system

[barren leaf]

I should spend a million

[shy dove]

If the rollout stays as is, never know what they could change

[gleaming ivy]

Why

Why spend a million

[barren leaf]

Do you think I’d be on there good list

Why not

[shy dove]

Santa?

[barren leaf]

I could be the biggest

[gleaming ivy]

“Could”

[barren leaf]

Yup

I know better

[gleaming ivy]

Doesn’t mean you will have followers to support you in big events

[indigo galleon]

its been lately about $$$

[barren leaf]

Stop destroying my dreams

[indigo galleon]

its super annoying

[shy dove]

Your money your choice 😂

[gleaming ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/pheasant-pheasant-hunting-hunting-kill-birds-gif-8861803015486752758

[barren leaf]

I do have the money I could do it

[shy dove]

I mean I can claim the same

A bit of a pointless discussion

[barren leaf]

Don’t we all

[shy dove]

Okay… time for bed….

[gleaming ivy]

Night!

[indigo galleon]

goodnight and sweetdreams

[shy dove]

[last knoll]

Really how do you know

[frail flower]

How do I contact the GM?

[gleaming ivy]

One in purple that says official bot

[frail flower]

Thanks

[last knoll]

It will also take time to go past 850+ states

Maybe 1 year

[gleaming ivy]

We don’t know how fast it will take

[last knoll]

Well isn't this rank reward was decided with state age

I still think 1 year in minimum

[gleaming ivy]

Ok. If you want to fly Go ahead

[woven canyon]

“Greatly improve and increase the rewards” by making them cost twice as much lol

[last knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/i-guess-yes-i-think-so-i-guess-unsure-yes-gif-15318111

[gleaming ivy]

Only twice?

I wrote in my reports 3x and less rewards lol

[woven canyon]

If the points are the same it looks like about twice for new development. I think its like 3m or so for top 2% which looks like basically the same as max phase 3 rewards for the f2p side

6m points is max right?

[gleaming ivy]

Yes

For 12 frags twins

And 2 normal frags

[woven canyon]

Yea so basically same as top 2% for the normal style

But a lot more expensive lol

And we can spend way less and still get like 8

I hope you all complain a bunch before they decide to move it up to us lol

[gleaming ivy]

All day

[shy dove]

I’m writing a college term paper amount 😂

[gleaming ivy]

Yeah. I saw lol

[shy dove]

🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

[gleaming ivy]

But let’s move the new development discussion to #🗣news-post-talk

Clear out some of the clutter here

And we can keep everything in one spot

[shy dove]

I’m really going to bed now though

See you all for coffee

[gleaming ivy]

Good night! Again

[severe sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-sure-john-candy-ok-gif-15377612

[noble sandal]

See you in 2 hours

[marsh granite]

Wow I just reread the bulletin post where they advertised this update and they pretty much did 10% of what they advertised

Like it was 90% lies

[gray socket]

Like

[gleaming ivy]

Like

Let’s try and keep all might week talk in #🗣news-post-talk

[drowsy osprey]

I think the cost is actually 6x - you'd be able to go through them with 50$, now you need around 300

[vital willow]

As a sign of protest to see for the developers of PnS and a sign of loyalty amongst players , it would be awesome if we had a skinfree day in all the states. F.e. Friday after Reset everybody removes their HQ, March, Ambience etc skins. As a bonus PnS would realize what this game would look like when players wouldn‘t spend money.

[sharp swallow]

😭

[ocean badger]

State 631. I did the math. The changes to Improve Might represent a 400 percent increase in frag cost for Zephyr, Lady M, Phoenix, and especially the twins. Two weeks of saving for Improve Might is now two months, for the same rewards.

This will be fixed within two weeks or my wife and I will submit our requests for complete account deletion. And moderators, before you delete this post, be aware that the Google Play store will not let you delete our game review edits. Enjoy the rating drop.

[gleaming ivy]

[dusk salmon]

Im not sure they are read this, but i do like the idea with the bad review

[ocean badger]

Kazumi obviously saw it. I can't say whether it will get back to the company. We have thousands of US $ invested in this game but we will not fall victim to the sunk cost fallacy marketing strategy. Translation: Continuing to invest in a bad business, marriage, or entertainment is not justified because you have already invested too much. Get out before you lose everything.

[marsh granite]

The mods in here are only players too and are working on giving feedback towards PNS add to the statistics in https://discord.com/channels/742276665421594644/1342006249453260810

you would be better off sending that to CS though ultimatums from individuals will probably not do much

But I think its fair to say I have not seen anyone that sees this update as positive

[hasty forge]

How is everyone doing today?

[dusk salmon]

like mad hatter said, also it not look like the mod are try to make people stay

[gleaming ivy]

How are you

[stable cape]

Hello

[gleaming ivy]

We have a current #🗣news-post-talk for the might week events

Were there is discussion about what’s happened

[noble sandal]

Or job isn’t to make people stay

Nor are we representatives of the company

We are players who only assist in moderating this server

[dusk salmon]

you right, i was spend some at start and now it just several dollars from time to time, so it more like go outside and buy a bear and not like invest

[gleaming ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/mod-discord-iammodiwillkeepthischatundercontrol-moderator-discord-mod-gif-10721802187389393707

[noble sandal]

As Kazumi has said numerous times, please move the update conversation to #🗣news-post-talk as we are using that to track the feedback

Thanks

[gleaming ivy]

We can forward complaints and issues. And that’s ad far as our help can go. A day and a half and we have written novels

I’ll have a whole book done at the end of the week

[noble sandal]

Should get it published

[dusk salmon]

i think after upgrade like that the dev need to be more on in and not like wait to the end of the week, not your fault

[noble sandal]

@dusk salmon hi, you have been asked nicely to move the update conversation to #🗣news-post-talk

[ocean badger]

The in-game CS interface is an AI bot and I can never get the submit button to work.

We don't blame the moderators. I have my own discord with over 20k members to support my customers. I know these are not your decisions. Unfortunately, this discord and game store reviews are the only way to express our concerns.

[dusk salmon]

it too much for me to start navigate between rooms

[gleaming ivy]

You can email them

[peak thicket]

Dear Commander✨️

You seem to be in need of contacting Customer Support (CS). May I suggest one of the following options:

Option 1 | In-Game
Tap on 'More' (gear icon, bottom right of task bar) > Settings > Help > Contact CS. Submit a new ticket by clicking "My Tickets" at the top right corner.

Option 2 | Email
[e-mail]
You will need your UID, which can be found under Settings > Account

IMPORTANT NOTES:

• If applicable, include any/all relevant information related to you and your issue:
• Screenshots/video of the issue(s)
• Screenshots/video of expected outcome(s)
• Proof of purchase

**Please be patient when waiting for a response. CS is NOT available 24 hours a day. **When high volume / game-wide issues come up, replies to tickets submitted may take longer to arrive. Thanks again for your patience!

[gleaming ivy]

Then just stay in the other room

[dusk salmon]

i dont want to

[noble sandal]

You’ve been asked nicely, next will be a warning.

[ocean badger]

I will email. Thank you.

[dusk salmon]

you can ban me

[gleaming ivy]

The comments and interactions get lost in this channel since it’s extremely used widely here

[median osprey]

Keep this channel for normal talks and questions and conversations. The commander upgrade week is a theme which has lots of reactions and keeps spam normal game questions and talks away so we lead all talks about it into #🗣news-post-talk
The post about it you find in #✨news
Keep the other channels clean so normal conversations and normal talk flow can happen.

Also its easier for us mods to keep track with all the valid and great feedbacks to forward them if those gets gathered in one channel instead of the whole server

[dusk salmon]

ועדיין, האזהרה שרוצים לתת לי כי לא הגבתי בערוץ המתאים היא הערה כללית. לא מדובר פה בתיקון באגים או בהוספה של איוונט או סקין. ומצופה אחרי שינוי להיות בקשב ללקוחות

אז אם אתם רוצים לחסום אותי, בבקשה.

[median osprey]

You dont seem to understand it at all. I will try to explain a last time, as the translator was a bit confusing. You've got asked first time to move talk and you said no, you now got also an explaination but you seems to feel we are customer Service. We are just normal players like you as well who voluntaried as moderators for this server. We lead conversation of that theme to one channel so important questions about game mechanics and normal talk flow can keep happen again without mass spam of commander week. We are as same as everyone else affected of that as normal player. To have it easier to keep track of feedback is the second point why to keep the talk in one channel.

[dusk salmon]

אבל כתבתי את זה באופן כללי ולא ספציפית על העדכונים האחרונים

[noble sandal]

Changing the language you type in doesn’t change that we asked you nicely to move the update conversation to another channel and you chose to be belligerent.

[dusk salmon]

ועדיין אתם בוחרים לא לענות על מה שאני כותב. בסדר.

[gleaming ivy]

Anyhow. Moving on

[median osprey]

So how far are yall showdown progress?

[noble sandal]

7/7, typical getting all hero quests today when I need a speed quest 😭

[median osprey]

Im at 0 🫣

Didnt started showdown yet

[gleaming ivy]

I’m trying

[noble sandal]

Ur naughty

Puff Puff gunna smoke you

[ocean badger]

61 refreshes before I got Get Heroes on one of my toons. A new record for me!