Anbernic RG476H

[primal grove]

'a bit of rain' 😄 damn

[mint venture]

kids these days can't handle getting a little wet smh

[latent sedge]

I was wrong about gamecube on the t820

406H is what I wish the 476H was except with the bigger screen

[open mantle]

How about a 477H, with the D8300 chip, 4.7” 120Hz screen, plastic shell, analog triggers, 406H style ergonomic grips, stick on top 🙏

[echo cargo]

Nope that would make too much sense

[placid thorn]

no ergo, flat slab supremacy

[frigid sequoia]

I wish the 476h used the slimmer digital triggers from the rg arc/353p

[latent sedge]

I'd buy that in a heartbeat

[latent sedge]

I would take a flat slab, you can always adda grip but you cant remove ergo bumps. As long as the joysticks on top.

[unreal cobalt]

Stick on top?!

https://tenor.com/view/right-to-jail-jail-parks-and-rec-right-away-fred-armisen-gif-16902115

[mint venture]

yeah idk about stick top, I feel like there are enough handhelds you can reach for if you are going to be playing stick top games

this screen is not small enough to be pocketable anyway

so you might as well get a rg557

[latent sedge]

Stick on top for sure if you want the dimensity or any Snapdragon chip

[latent sedge]

sure it is

[unreal cobalt]

There’s no need for stick on top for budget devices. Only premium. 476 is a budget device. Its successors would be too. Honestly Anbernic made a mistake with having stick on top for the 406H IMO.

[latent sedge]

closest thing to this is the Odin 2 mini I;ve got one of those on the way as well

[latent sedge]

no they didnt with those ergo grips i can play 3D Gamecube games great with it and the dpad is still easy to reach

I was just testing all that

[unreal cobalt]

Good for you. Stick on top is still not ideal for the majority of console emulations played on budget devices.

[open mantle]

I’d think stick on top + analog triggers and bumps goes together on a higher powered device that can play GC and PS2. For something focused on systems PS1 and below then dpad on top and digital bumpers makes more sense.

[latent sedge]

I think a refresh of the 406H would come with the dimensity chip maybe not the budget catagory anymore

[unreal cobalt]

476H is essentially the successor of the 406H

IMO

[latent sedge]

Disagree

[latent sedge]

agree

[unreal cobalt]

We’ll find out sooner or later

[latent sedge]

476 is like the succesor to the 35xxH or 40xxH

[unreal cobalt]

Lol no. Those lines don’t run Android.

[latent sedge]

I think they still qualify

theyre the budget teir device and share the same form

[unreal cobalt]

You do you boo. Anbernic has always had a clear distinction between product lines with OS being one of the factors deciding what tier the device is.

[latent sedge]

things change all the time

[unreal cobalt]

Sure. Doesn’t change that how they price the device also decides what tier they are. 476H being a successor to the XX line would be a clear “fuck you” to their budget-conscious customers.

[frigid sequoia]

I think unfortunately they probably are gonna go the mangmi/magicX route with their budget line going forward and it'll also be android using a g85 or something

[latent sedge]

its like a spiritual successor gives them room to up there prices

[delicate ledge]

Wrong how?

[latent sedge]

last time I had a 406h I loved the form factor but it barely played gamecube games, kept hearing from people that the t820 can do gamecube so I gave it another try

indeed it can

[unreal cobalt]

It's a possibility. Though if the 476 was an XX successor, I'd imagine they would've been named it 47XX instead. I wouldn't be surprised if an actual 47XX comes out in a year or so. It took a while before they used the RG405 screens in the XX line. Would probably be the same if they decide to continue the XX line.

[frigid sequoia]

Haven’t even gotten the 406 screen in a budget line yet even though it would be perfect for a stickless budget vertical

[unreal cobalt]

It’ll happen eventually.

[unique forge]

that's really the problem with t820. when the 556 dropped, there was already a zeitgeist of people who 'knew' it couldn't play gc/ps2, despite nobody having a nubia neo 5g to prove that.

now that we're several devices in, it still exists kind of a like a psychological fungus

[bronze jolt]

Yes please

[delicate ledge]

Soooooon

[placid thorn]

my drugs arrived and the rg476h feels extremely nice in the hands

[echo cargo]

Mines out for delivery I'll see it later tonight when I'm home from work

[hasty turtle]

Ah... Will I really need to order this one to hold something new in my hands before the end of next month? 😩

[peak chasm]

Arrived in 10 days

[placid thorn]

do it, it's very nice

[twilit edge]

I'm still waiting for GeekBuying to ship mine 😭

I shoulda just paid the small extra and got it from Anbernic day one

[primal grove]

totally not jealous ;D

[twilit edge]

Jealous of you lot

[real imp]

The RG476H looks more pleasing, IMO. The joystick holes on the RG477M kinda look too big and a bit weird 😅

[peak chasm]

That is. Caused be the 45 degree camera angle, the holes are just as big

[placid thorn]

it's basically the same layout, same size, just plastic and stacked triggers

[peak chasm]

The first thing I did notice is that the d-pad is a bit more mushy

Anbernic did this on purpose, to make it feel cheaper

The 477m dpad definitely is better!

[frigid sequoia]

Your 477m dpad is presumably broken in a bit

[mint venture]

I'm the only idiot that ordered grey aren't I

[placid thorn]

yes

[echo cargo]

I got grey 🤙🏻

[bronze jolt]

Does this move to released devices now?

[mint venture]

no hold on, I didn't get mine yet

wait until tomorrow

[placid thorn]

nothing moves to released devices anymore, the Pocket ACE and Pocket S2 are still stuck in upcoming, same for the RDS

[bronze jolt]

Arnt there mods

[mint venture]

I like it better this way tbh

[floral gull]

The only game you ever need on all the devices.

[mint venture]

post this photo on reddit and you'll get a million upvotes

possibly top of the SBCgaming Frontpage if nothing else interesting is going on

[floral gull]

Eh. My desire to interact with Reddit has been even less lately. People are even more married to their opinions there than they are here lmao.

[mint venture]

nah the problem with Reddit is not that they are married to their opinions but that their opinions are wrong

people there are much less informed and knowledgeable but act as if they knew what they were talking about

if you are going to be pedantic and insufferable about something at least know what you are talking about

[frosty swallow]

The problem with Reddit is that one user in a subreddit will present their opinion as fact confidently. Then a big portion of the subreddit will investigate that opinion and find good things about it - without investigating any other alternatives - and then downvote the crap out of anyone that presents a different opinion regardless of merit.

[twilit edge]

Brotato on 4:3 is hard mode

[floral gull]

Also when there’s no real time reaction it’s even easier to be a keyboard warrior.

[open mantle]

Has anyone come across any teardown/disassembly videos or photos of the 476h yet?

Russ opened up and showed the back inside of the 477m but didn’t open up the 476h in his vids so far

[peak chasm]

No issue with my retail unit, it stayed in all day without issues.

[austere goblet]

I just check mine and no issue. Got the Indigo color.

[placid thorn]

same here, my black one shuts the SD card cover absolutely fine... it's hard to get open tho

don't cut your nails if you want to change the SD card

[delicate ledge]

At least that issue is fixed on production units! I was ready not to use an SD card to ensure it stays flat 😅

[placid thorn]

but I honestly don't like the rg476h case compared with the rg447m one, the later is sleek and flat and really small, the rg476h is big, bulky and has no flap to protect the screen from accessories, despite the compartment sadly being there

[delicate ledge]

I saw another case pop up on AliExpress. It had a screen protector flap

[placid thorn]

probably was made for the 477m, no extra space for the triggers

[delicate ledge]

Yea probably

[placid thorn]

you can btw use the official 477 for the 476 just fine, but the 477 won't fit into the 476 case

[placid thorn]

would be fun if the 477h fits into the 476h case, given how that thing basically has space for ergo bumps

[mint venture]

you sure it's not the other way around? given how you need extra space for the triggers of the rg476h

[placid thorn]

the rg476h goes just fine into the 477m case, it's a bit propped up due to the triggers, but it closes properly

the rg477m doesn't goes into the 476h case, because it has no space for the inline triggers, like it's literally a bit less tall, but kinda wider... also it has space for ergo bumps, so I really think we will see something akin to the 406h soon that uses the 4.7" panel and probably the D8300... which will also fit into this case

[echo cargo]

No issue with my SD card cover. I'm also super happy with the Grey!

[mint venture]

no issues with the black border?

[echo cargo]

doesn't bother me at all

[delicate ledge]

Is the screen as good as we hoped? Uniformity, bleeding, vignetting etc?

[latent sedge]

nay those joysticks are the same but the divet around the 477m is clearly larger

[latent sedge]

plus the white of the RGB rim goes with black a little better then bronze

[spark agate]

Does anyone have the purple and grey models? What’s the deal with the bezels on the grey, is it just a bigger cutout?

[echo cargo]

As far as I can tell the screen looks amazing I really like the upgrade from the 406h.

[echo cargo]

My guess is they made the cut out in the plastic slightly bigger to add black bezel so there wouldn’t be so much light bleed/ glow into the light colored plastic of the grey.

[primal grove]

tha screen does look gorgeous

[echo cargo]

I immediately stoped noticing the bezel on the grey and I love how it looks I’m very happy I went out of my comfort zone and got the grey

Also the shader subframes you can do with the 120hz screen looks Amazing. Overall super happy. Awesome device for me for older gen gaming to compliment the newer stuff on my portal.

[bronze jolt]

Mines said ‘leaving customs, awaiting pickup’ for the last 48 hours 🤔

[peak chasm]

Yes indeed, i see it now as well

[unique forge]

so, how does 4:3 left4dead run?

someone messaged my youtube account saying it's stable in gamehub after watching my winlator 10 l4d vid

[mint venture]

buying a 4:3 dpad top Anbernic to play left4dead is... a choice

[unique forge]

there is a whole era of 4:3-compatible dx8 and dx9 7th gen titles that don't have playable console ports on arm. might as well crack that pot open.

[mint venture]

you know what, that's fair

now I'm actually curious how well it runs

[frigid sequoia]

dpad works fine for movement in fps

debatably better

in most of them

[unique forge]

yeah, you can map wasd to the dpad. that is a thing

[mint venture]

I suppose if you think of it as a wasd replacement

that's fair

[frigid sequoia]

but also I'm very much a pc gamer so the idea of playing an FPS with anything but a mouse causes me psychic damage

[unique forge]

try playing tf2 on a controller sometime. engineer and spy....

[frigid sequoia]

I know some competitive heavy players use a trackball

[unique forge]

ew

[frigid sequoia]

the flicks are more important than the sniping I guess

[unique forge]

i don't know how trackball players do it

[frigid sequoia]

I don't mind them for RTS and RPGs

but yeah FPS no thanks

I did play morrowind with a trackball at one point

that's about as close to an FPS as I'll go with it

[bronze jolt]

Id rather a trackball than controller. A friend used to play quake with one

What was the frame rate like on l4d?

[frigid sequoia]

oh yeah for fps mouse >>>>>> trackball > trackpad > lenovo pointer nipple mouse thing > any gamepad

[toxic pagoda]

mouse >>motion controls>>>> trackball > trackpad > lenovo pointer nipple mouse thing > any gamepad

[frigid sequoia]

I've never tried motion controls

[toxic pagoda]

i like them a lot but honestly i don't play any game where i need to aim

[frosty swallow]

lenovo pointer nipple mouse thing
There is a more vulgar name for this....

[frigid sequoia]

there's also a more professional name for it

the trackpoint

[toxic pagoda]

motion controls are also the most fun option i'd say

[frigid sequoia]

I once sat behind a guy in an astronomy lecture that was just playing unreal tournament with the trackpoint on his thinkpad

unhinged behavior

the game was about 8 years old by that point

the school provided dell rental laptops to all students and he brought his own thinkpad that looked older than the rental dells

[mint venture]

hello gorgeous

absolutely love this colorway, it's stunning in real life

photos and videos don't make it justice

[echo cargo]

That’s exactly how I feel it looks so good in person

[mint venture]

also, what do you know, the black border is almost imperceptible in real life use

[twilit edge]

Mine finally shipped from GeekBuying. It's gonna be old news by the time I get it lol

[mint venture]

oh so smooth

you definitely see that 120hz instantly

[placid thorn]

we will have a rg476v by then

[mint venture]

it's any of the crap Anbernic pre installs worth using? been a while since my last Android Anbernic

gonna assume no

[twilit edge]

The emulators will work, they'll just be pretty out of date. And some are paid apps that they've pirated, which some people are against on principle

I always delete 'em and install my own up-to-date ones

[echo cargo]

I uninstall everything then reinstall what I’m going to use.

[primal grove]

same

[bronze jolt]

Man the grey looks nice

[mint venture]

I skipped the slide and the rg477m so this is my first time with this screen

I can definitely tell that it's not OLED

blues in particular look a little dull

it's not the end of the world, but it does feel like it falls short of being the ultimate 4:3

speakers are also kinda meh, not worse than your average Retroid but not gonna win any awards

controls are absolutely excellent, shoulders/triggers feel very high quality, even the sticks feel great

sadly they fumbled the position of the start/select buttons but otherwise it's mostly bliss

[bronze jolt]

How’s bfi??

[mint venture]

haven't had time to test it yet

but I wasn't a big fan when I tried it on the Portal

weight in hands feels pretty good, not super lightweight but not heavy either, you don't notice it when playing

size also feels like it strikes a good balance between large screen but still relatively compact

I'm not sure if I would call it pocketable, but it is the most compact I've seen for this screen size profile

pocketable for winter coat pockets I guess

overall first impressions, this is giving me ultimate 4:3 retro machine vibes except for a couple minor blemishes

[twilit edge]

I really hope the eventual Retroid mortgage screen is at least 4.7"

[mint venture]

we'll see, they'll definitely have my attention if they do a 4:3 OLED

although I definitely prefer Anbernic's controls to Retroid

somehow even the sticks in here feel smoother than on the rp5, not sure if placebo

[dark laurel]

Finally landed on UK shores

[primal grove]

oooh

[dark laurel]

It’s actually a really pretty handheld! Much nicer in person than renders 😍

[echo cargo]

You should try crt beam it’s so much better than BFI imo

https://youtu.be/d2GS7wDa2XI?si=L7sTENJ-1MooqGmW

[placid thorn]

if Anbernic does it again, same shell, same everything, with a D8300 they can sell me that screen a 4th time

[dark laurel]

Haha so far only slide and this 😅 but i will have to agree. Hey if you get the DS then 6 times?!?

[placid thorn]

if they use the exact same screen and a t820... yeah

[sinful vapor]

Gonna sell my ace and keep.the 476h

Only complaint is this dam clicky L and R buttons but I plan to solder new ones

[placid thorn]

poor ACE, it's such a nice device

[open mantle]

Is that board from the 476h? Would you be able to show more internals and mainboard photos? 🙏

[floral gull]

What makes you prefer the 476?

[sinful vapor]

Lighter, thinner, quieter face buttons and cheaper.I only play up to gc and ps2 and even then I have the portal for gc ps2 and up. Main emulation is gba and even on 4:3 device with the black bars the screen size is the same

[sinful vapor]

Need to reopen to measure button size so I'll take some pics then

[open mantle]

Oh you’re amazing thank you

[frigid sequoia]

You get a decent size bigger screen for 4:3 home consoles and 120hz too

Even 16:9 content would be the same size on both

Since the 476h screen is just as wide just taller

I’m excited for the other direction though - the 476h screen is just a stall for tate arcade, neogeo pocket colour, gameboy etc as the RG cube while being wider for gameboy and higher res for tate arcade

[sinful vapor]

Only thing to replace this for me is 120hz oled 4:3

Solid device for sure

[open mantle]

Thank you for the photos!

[delicate ledge]

My only complaints after reviving my unit are the shoulder buttons are a bit “scratchy” when using them sometimes. I might do a bit a teardown like this and see if it’s rubbing on anything

[sinful vapor]

L2 R2?

[floral gull]

Fair. I thought about switching the other direction but haven’t pulled the trigger on an ace.

[sinful vapor]

ill be listing one later today 😉

[open mantle]

I’ve been wondering if you can swap the 447m main board into the 476h

[delicate ledge]

Yep

[torn ridge]

Really hoping there's a soft mod we can do here to reduce the noise

[unique forge]

apparently the pipe/sink/blower used on the t820 devices is just enough to keep them cool for gamehub, but is definitely not enough for the d8300 devices. they zoom up past 80c after a few minutes of RE2 Remake or TItanfall 2

kinda wild that we're one proper cooling setup away from a decent arm2x86 handheld

[viscid glen]

I don’t have any odd feeling like that on my unit fwiw

I am frequently having issues with RG launcher somehow opening - but it seems to be more ES-DE crashing and causing RG Launcher to open even tho it’s not default

[mint venture]

my SD card tray closes flush as well btw

seems like Anbernic did do fix the issue in retail units

[delicate ledge]

It can change if you push or pull the triggers left and right

I’ll dig into it deeper on the weekend

Otherwise I also have noticed a fair bit of image retention when using sub frame bfi WITHOUT a CRT shader on. With some shader like crt-easymode it greatly reduces the image retention

[viscid glen]

I have to put a decent amount of pressure on them towards the outside of the device to get any real friction on mine

[bronze jolt]

It’s arrived Woop

[bronze jolt]

Fastest way to check out bfi? Download retro arch, slap a crt shader in and put a snes game on?

It’s a big boy, weighty too

Glad I didn’t go 477, that would have been too heavy for my liking

[echo cargo]

Anyone know if 1280x960 handheld overlays exist?

[kindred carbon]

https://old.reddit.com/r/ANBERNIC/comments/1mvk7bv/rg477m_960p_bezels/ there are working links in the comments

[echo cargo]

Thank you!

[bronze jolt]

Does silksong run well on the t820? If so is it best through the android port or winlator?

[mint venture]

posted this on reddit but you guys will probably appreciate it more: https://www.reddit.com/r/SBCGaming/comments/1nvceyd/the_ultimate_showdown_that_nobody_ever_asked_for/

I'm happy, I wanted an updated RG552 and I got it

[sick mulch]

Finally got my arrival date, TOMORROW 🎉 Pretty pumped, I've gone from 35XX-H > 40XX-H > RG476H

[placid thorn]

pretty straight upgrade path

[bronze jolt]

The screens very awesome for a non oled, gave the same feeling to switching the rpmini on for the first time

Almost oled

[mint venture]

it's not quite OLED, but definitely not a cheap LCD either

[mint venture]

I've been waiting forever for something that 1) is dpad top 2) has Anbernic quality dpad + face buttons 3) has a large 4:3 content screen area and 4) is not metal

this is the first time in years that I feel like I might finally retire the rg552

[austere goblet]

this what I wanted also. this handheld is one of my favorites for under ps2/GC. Just a joy to use.

[mint venture]

now somebody make this with OLED

[upbeat yoke]

does anyone know if 4PX tracking will eventually say "on the road with driver" or something to that extent? Mine's been stuck on "transferred to local facility + been processed" for a couple days now and I keep wondering if I'm going to get a surprise delivery or not

[hasty turtle]

well, is it your local or their local? 😛

[rich token]

What's the best crt shader to use with BFI on this device?

[upbeat yoke]

My local for sure haha

[hasty turtle]

I ask, because I remember it saying transferred to local facility, but it was still moving through China

for some orderes I made

[upbeat yoke]

Oh yeah fair enough, mine has definitely arrived in the country and cleared customs a couple days ago

I would have expected delivery today based on that timing but not sure what's happening

[echo cargo]

#1412741270069317705 message

[echo cargo]

CRT-beam-simulator.slang
And
Zfast_crt_finemask.slang

[rich token]

Thanks for the help.

[delicate ledge]

I also like crt-easymode and crt-gwfw-fast

I really don’t like the way crt-beam works by default, with anti-image retention that lightens and darkens the screen, and also the scan bar things

Turning them off looks great, but if you stay static in game for too long it can cause temporary image retention

[torn ridge]

What country?

[upbeat yoke]

New Zealand

[torn ridge]

Oh yeah can't help ha. Could look up the tracking on 17track?

Honestly didn't scroll back far enough to see if you said you did

[upbeat yoke]

Nah but it's no different on 17track

Would have gone to a local depot in Auckland which is where it would have entered via customs, and it's usually 2 days from Auckland to where I am but that can always give or take a day

hopefully tomorrow otherwise it'll be next week

[real imp]

https://youtu.be/w2Ogbv6DYtM?si=dm_Kf5cb-j1UcxSu

[torn ridge]

Mine seemed an extra day behind here in the US too. Expecting it tomorrow finally

[spark agate]

It just arrived. Why am I more excited for this than the 477M ?

Retro Dodo loves to counter signal. He also admits he is bored by retro handhelds and wants ‘innovation’.

[bronze jolt]

It’s like phones, where can you go?

[spark agate]

Yeah like phones, they have perfected the basic model. At this point we just want better screen and cpu.

[bronze jolt]

Even then, we have 8 elite and oled panels

Man this screens soooo nice

[hasty turtle]

I kinda like the simple design of it although it reminds me of a squished NS Lite 😛

Oh, wrong tag, sorry there

[sick mulch]

Everyone's idea of perfect is going to be different. I agree the differences are kinda 'washed out' but what people buy most is going to be what they make more of. Niche sales are cool, but a lot of time and effort for limited return.

[mint venture]

PSP is surprisingly pretty decent here

you get black bars, but at 4.3" effective content area I find it big enough, it's enjoyable

[floral gull]

It’s the same size as the actual psp

So the games were designed to work at that size

[spark agate]

This is my first T820 device. It’s great, but if you are into playing with advanced shaders it’s not powerful enough while the 477M is noticeably more powerful. I find the T820 does not seem any better than the T618/405M. But it’s scaling at double the screen resolution so working harder.

[unique forge]

we're getting into Survivor's Bias saying stuff like 'because it can't do the same niche thing t618 can't do, it's the same as a t618.'

[spark agate]

I’m just being honest. I’m finding they can run the same shaders, and cannot run the same shaders. While the 477M can run many more. I thought the T820 would be more in between.

But it does have to scale 2x the screen resolution. So that requires more power than the T618

[bronze jolt]

‘CRT GDV mini ultra trinitron’ for 2d stuff

‘CRT newpixie’ for 3d

[delicate ledge]

I popped the Odin 2 sticks on this and it works really well. The lower profile lets you access the dpad and buttons a bit easier. It allows me to hold it slightly differently with my thumbs more straighten. Quite a nice change I think!

[primal grove]

have to remember that psidozer has a big stick up his arse as far as the t820 is concerned 😄

[primal grove]

i mean the 477m is something like 5x the power of the t820 here 😄

[placid thorn]

are the Odin 2 sticks different from the small Odin 2 Portal ones?

[torn ridge]

This literally is what I told a friend of mine this morning too. The stick height is just slightly too tall and makes it feel a tad awkward. Glad the Odin 2 sticks work, I'm about to pop mine on!

[sick mulch]

I'm coming from linux (but daily android on my phone) and haven't played with shaders, who has a good guide? YouTube is nice, but written is great too.

[bitter jay]

Wait is this just the 406h with a bigger 4:3 screen?

why would they make this.

[mint venture]

no, same ones

[mint venture]

I haven't found this to be a problem, I guess it depends a lot on hand glove size, but for me the default caps work great and don't get in the way, I don't feel compelled to change them

[unique forge]

say what you want, but the t820 has 'everybody's ex' syndrome at this point. no one person can agree on why they don't like it, but every single person agrees that their reason is why they left.

the odin 2 is hitting that point too now that the Konkr is out. for my friend that sold his to an inventory guy, it was because it overheats at 5x ps2.

[mint venture]

upside down flag, is everything alright? don't tell me you are also a gov worker 😅

[floral gull]

Everything isn’t alright but i can’t say much more than that here. I am a gov worker, thankfully not federal at this time.

[mint venture]

gotcha, I understand, somebody reached out to me recently telling me they were also a gov worker and were pretty stressed out about the whole situation so I understand, really sucks

[primal grove]

psp would be pretty nice on this, i play quite a bit on my 406h

[frigid sequoia]

Yeah psp on 4” 4:3 is fine on this it should be great tbh

[mint venture]

it's excellent, I would have no qualms on recommending this for PSP

[primal grove]

should 3-4x the library easily though that was from my experience on the other t820 devices, i dunno how the larger screen impacts that if any 😄

[mint venture]

the t618 was already doing x3-4 without an issue, the t820 eats the psp for breakfast

[primal grove]

true you can most likely up it, i don't upscale things past the screen resolution myself ;D

[bronze jolt]

Yeah been playing some ridge racer 2 on this and it’s awesome

[primal grove]

such a cool library as well

[bronze jolt]

Going to try final fantasy tactics alivice switch now

[twilit edge]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-straight-to-jail-arrested-driven-to-tears-season-4-gif-4073450576709134781

[unique forge]

Flatout 1 and 2 for ps2 should run pretty well on this. i generally prefer the pc versions though due to 2k textures and 1080p graphics

i swore off the flatout series for a while because you actually have to be good at 1v12 offroad racing

[bronze jolt]

About 5-20fps in sudachi, doesn’t start in Eden

Was hopeful when it started at 40 in the menus 😂

Which emulator would people currently recommend for PlayStation 1?

[twilit edge]

If you already have your Retroarch hotkeys set up nice and you like using it, just use a retroarch core. If not, standalone Duckstation is nice

[bronze jolt]

Oh yeah duckstation, forgot about that. Thanks

[sick mulch]

Ooooh boy, WinLator Mali is going to be interesting 😁 year 2000 pc gaming here I come

[delicate ledge]

Not sure! I don’t own a portal

[bitter jay]

Retroarch: psxrearmed: add in the upres and speed hack

Should look perfect on 4:3

[mint venture]

tried some switch emulation on this with Eden just to see the state of things with the t820

conclusion: do not get this handheld to emulate switch

[bitter jay]

did you try some of the 1st-3rd gen switch games. those were easiest to run on chromebook

this guy got hello kitty island adventure running on that other t820 device
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCAM-Ed2Yac

[mint venture]

some good old 4:3 half life 2 because why not

surprisingly playable for a stick bottom device

this screen is so good for anything 4:3 you throw at it

[twilit edge]

Mine finally came! Which means Anbernic will announce the new hotness in about 7 seconds

[bronze jolt]

Rg608 - like a 557 but with 6” oled and x86

[twilit edge]

This handheld rules

[placid thorn]

now rg476v, mext month rg477v and for Christmas we get the rg477h

[foggy pagoda]

477V shoulda been in September as both 405 and 406 were both released in September

[twilit edge]

Gimme dat 47XXH

[placid thorn]

rejected

[twilit edge]

MuOS with this screen would be swell I tell you hwhat

[placid thorn]

the screen is most likely too expensive for a budget device and Anbernic can't go and try to sell a $100 H700 handheld in the current state of the market

[mint venture]

given how the rg476h has been (so far) a flop for them, I'm not sure if they'll be in the mood for more iterations

[placid thorn]

which is funny given how it's pretty much one of their best devices

[mint venture]

absolutely, it's top Anbernic no question

but the choice of chip unfortunately gave it a bad rep

[primal grove]

Just bad timing yeah

Undeserved bad rep but understandable

[bitter jay]

the chromebook i used before i got a cube had this inside, which is similar to the t820.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/MediaTek-Kompanio-520-Processor-Benchmarks-and-Specs.785566.0.html
it would be neat to see this used in a budget 476h.

[placid thorn]

I mean if they did a 477h people would have complained about the price, certainly the t820 ain't an ideal choice and this is too expensive in the current market, but it's a really good device and at 20-30bucks less than the EB it would also be good value, at the end of the day the t820 handles most GCN and a lot of PS2 fine if you know how

[bronze jolt]

Anyone had silksong (pc) running on this with winlator?

[primal grove]

oh yeah the price tag with the d8300 people would have bitched about too 😄

[bitter jay]

it could have been worse. they could have used a mediatek 1300t and cost 400usd

[mint venture]

Stubbs did, iirc it hovered around 40 to 60, playable ish

[bitter jay]

that's playable. some people force the engine to 30fps

[bronze jolt]

I haven’t managed to get it to run in winlator cmod 13

[late isle]

It’s absolutely mind boggling that this wasn’t the direct 405m successor.

They really thought people wanted a wider RG cube and released the atrocity that was the 406H

[mint venture]

try gamehub, if you can stomach the spyware

it runs there

[bronze jolt]

Yeah I was trying to avoid game hub as long as I can

[twilit edge]

Maybe try the Switch version? It might be lightweight enough for the 476H to handle

[primal grove]

oi i love the 406h 😄 this should have been the successor though lol

[late isle]

Okay maybe atrocity was exaggerated

[hexed fern]

There's a native android port

[bronze jolt]

There’s 3 dunno what’s what with them right now 🤣

[hexed fern]

Chinese port has touch controls and better performance

Freddy's port is supposed to be a little more stable, but that might change in favour of the chinese port?

And GLEports.....exists?

[unique forge]

calling the 406h an atrocity is a bit much. Last I checked this was a hobby, not literal torture

maybe people expect too much from these devices?

[placid thorn]

I mean, it's pretty decent for stick-centric games, but yeah the d-pad is unusable

[bronze jolt]

Yeah I need to find the Freddy port

[sick mulch]

Why doesn't it have a snapdragon and 10 hour battery life for $75 /s

[delicate ledge]

Yikes. I plugged my 476h in to charge and it auto turned on running BFI. It was like that all night, charging and running a snes game. The image retention this caused is pretty nuts, and hasn’t gone away over the past 12 hours

Just a heads up to turn it off again when plugging it in!

[sullen cave]

It caused burn in on your screen?

[delicate ledge]

Image retention yes

I am going to try using Gammas stuck pixel gba game https://github.com/TheGammaSqueeze/rgxx_boot_package_mods/tree/rg35xxsp

[sullen cave]

Wild, hopefully you get it fixed.

[echo cargo]

Interesting mine has not turned on while charging at all

[delicate ledge]

It looks like it’s an android feature? It shows an animation of it getting plugged in

But doing so will wake the device

[echo cargo]

I see the animation and it will show it’s charging then the display shuts off again after a couple seconds

[delicate ledge]

What if it’s running a game?

I’m learning more about it while praying the damage can be undone https://forums.blurbusters.com/viewtopic.php?t=7539

[unique forge]

nobody freak out. oleds do burn in. just be smart

[delicate ledge]

This is LCD image retention

It should be temporary

[unique forge]

tell us what its like tomorrow

[sullen cave]

Too late, I am already making a reddit post complaining about the screen quality.

[delicate ledge]

What happens if you guys set your screens to 60hz? Mine flickers like crazy

[echo cargo]

Well if I turn it off it’s not running a game.

[echo cargo]

Mine does not do this sorry

[lucid silo]

yeah normal BFI will cause retention on these screens, I've fixed this in GammaOS for global BFI, but using RA's BFI without safe subframe-bfi shader will cause this

[lucid silo]

it can be undone, but you'll need to leave that GBA pixel fixer rom running for some time, in full screen

[delicate ledge]

Ahh I was actually using sub frame bfi

[delicate ledge]

I’ll give it a go and leave it running for a long while. The image retention is pretty hardcore

I’m also weirdly more concerned about the flickering in 60hz mode. That doesn’t seem normal

[lucid silo]

that can happen, it'll disappear once you run at 120hz with the GBA rom, turn audio sync and vsync off in retroarch while you run the rom in full screen

it'll run at max refresh rate

[delicate ledge]

Does screen brightness matter at all? I assume full brightness

[lucid silo]

nah can be mid brightness

[delicate ledge]

With both syncs off, the “game” runs at 600+ fps which causes inconsistent timing of how the colors appear - should it be running at 120?

[delicate ledge]

Sorry I mean if you put it to sleep with a game running. If you plug it in after that, I am pretty sure the game will then keep the device and screen awake

[echo cargo]

I’m going to test it out when I get home. I typically always turn off my devices if I’m done with them though. Not sure why just a habit.

[delicate ledge]

Probably smart!

The boot up time is pretty quick too

[lucid silo]

oh maybe set vsync to 1

[delicate ledge]

Ya that makes sense to keep it at 120

Appreciate your help mate. I’ll leave this running for the day and see how we go

[lucid silo]

FWIW I did a lot of work in GammaOS to switch the polarity of the BFI frames every 30 seconds or so, that keeps things mostly safe and not annoying for the end user

[delicate ledge]

That’s really exciting. I was finding burn in quite common when just playing normally with sub frame bfi (like a Pokémon battle, the health bars etc)

[delicate ledge]

Similar to what was suggested here? https://forums.libretro.com/t/setting-for-bfi-to-purposefully-drop-a-frame-to-avoid-image-retention/44243

[lucid silo]

yes

I made it more subtle

[lucid silo]

GammaBFI polarity switching, just for demo purposes I have this to every 1 second, but will be closer to 30 seconds or so. The switch isn't distracting

[echo cargo]

Tried it and if you have the device in sleep plugging it into the charger immediatly pulls it out of sleep like you said. It happened so fast i'm surprised you didn't see it happen before walking away.

[delicate ledge]

I had the screen covered with a micro fiber. It was a comedy of errors haha

[echo cargo]

oh no well you live and you learn

[delicate ledge]

Indeed 🙂

[woeful osprey]

Sorry if I’m out of the loop, but is Gamma for this device public yet?

[delicate ledge]

No not yet

[upbeat yoke]

Really loving mine so far

also I was thinking in regards to high end CRT shaders, I guess I could always just screen mirror this through one of my converters into my actual trinitron

avoid the shader hassle

[delicate ledge]

After about 8 hours it has reduced the clarity of the retained image and has shifted the colours slightly to a greener hue… so it’s doing something good. I’m going to try some static tv noise for a few hours before swapping back to yours overnight.

60hz still flickers heaps

[latent sedge]

How dare you

[sullen cave]

Mine is being delivered in a few hours.

[bronze jolt]

Here’s a game to try on this, Dreamcast wipeout port! 200fps+ looks and plays great

[mint venture]

is that with redream?

[sullen cave]

Mine came in. I like it so much I am ordering my brother the grey one.

My sd card slot is flush btw

[bronze jolt]

I was using flycast, but I think the same happens on real hardware

[mint venture]

how are you unlocking the frame rate to run above 60? I thought the DC wasn't capable of that

[bronze jolt]

I dont know 😅

[bronze jolt]

I think it’s just unlocked in the game, put fps counter and it goes from anywhere between 130-500. Don’t know if there’s a way to cap it maybe in an emulator

https://github.com/jnmartin84/wipeout-dc

Says 60 on there so don’t know what the fps counter is reporting unless that’s because I’m emulating it instead of real hardware… 🤷

[cyan smelt]

Asking to move the conversation to its new home.