2025 XU Product Slate

[rare junco]

Like, take the Dream40/50 and make it smaller. That's all.

Don't see how it would be much more of an e waste than the Dream40/50, really.

[fringe cedar]

Eh... Fair enough, we all have our preferences I guess. I'd say the One35's USP is the TATE/Vertical mode. If you take that away, then it's just another small handheld, albeit with strong performance. But I get what you are saying.

The Dream40/50 USP is the price/performance.

I absolutely understand why people think it's boring but for me, when you couple it's capabilities with the nice screen and design and it's just got loads of potential as the "new baseline" device going forward. £50 for everything it can do in a no frills, broad-use, clean aesthetic... It could become a go-to device for new and old.

Just my opinion of course, with a pinch of bias because I really want one

People are dropping £90 on a Brick Hammer that can't do a fraction of what the Dream40/50 can

Like, with the Dream40/50, the bar has been raised for what a basic device should be.

[long sapphire]

u are right. magicX one35 is also raise the bar. 🙂 one35 is far better than miyoo flip 2 or brick hammer.

[bronze yew]

if they intend to rgXX the market with their G85, the next device should obviously be the One 40, after that the One 50 and just as if to troll folks they gotta pop out the Flip 50 after that

arguably they should at least have the molds ready for the first two, dunno about the Flip

what else they churn out entirely depends on what already exists as unused molds and designs IMO

like I would love to see these two to happen as well, G85 would be fine in my book, but if those are just renders they may be something for later

[fringe cedar]

I'd buy the 1:1 instantly

[bronze yew]

ideally their G85 stuff also should sit around $~60, so we probably can't expect something too fancy like the 4.8" 4:3 panel, but at the end of the day this is mostly about getting shit out before Anbernic does IMO

also they definitely have to hand a bunch over to Ampown so they have a presence on AliExpress instead of being confined to their own storefront, visibility plays a big role here and them being confined to their own store and not getting units to reviewers before release is an issue

[bronze yew]

same same, but they ain't listening to me

if they sell enough units of the G85, I really hope we will see the d7300 soon, ideally starting at $99 with the basic model and then we hopefully will get some fancier stuff like the MagicX DS or Two 48 which could reasonably be $119 instead

[fringe cedar]

Time is of the essence

It's pretty risky if they were to try it, but I'd argue it's less risky than fading into obscurity sitting on dozens of designs and being too scared to chance any of them

[bronze yew]

that being said, this all would require MagicX to actually move and churn out stuff like Anbernic does, because they are their biggest competitor and if Anbernic now does a bunch of t620 devices for below $100, MagicX will have a bad time

[bronze yew]

the risk with this is definitely them being beaten to the market by Anbernic, like if MagicX planned a dual screen G85 device, they can shelve it now, because Anbernic will be faster and simply is the more well known brand

which is also the reason I don't think the MagicX Flip is a good idea right now, but oh well

[fringe cedar]

I got flamed in the MagicX channel for basically saying the same thing.

Why would you now go back to the drawing board to try to design a single screen G85 clamshell that nobody will actually buy by the time you can get it out, when you have products almost ready to start production...

Get some stuff over the line and strike while you have this slim advantage surely

[bronze yew]

I mean the Flip shouldn't be fresh from the drawing board, as Seans infamous hinge test is a running gag by now... but yeah it's definitely way too late, last year it would have been great to get a budget single screen clamshell... now... well, I kinda don't see it being the best choice for their next device

if they would release it with a d7300 it would be another story, but with the g85... ehhhh, idk if there is a reasonable market for it right now

[fringe cedar]

The community voted vastly in favour of it on their poll though, but I guarantee 90% of the people that voted for it wouldn't actually pick one up in late 2026 when it would optimistically release

[bronze yew]

if MagicX releases their next device by late 2026, they can file for bankruptcy right now 😅

monthly stuff is what should happen now, at worst every two months

especially as they have molds ready, designing a slightly different board is the least complex part here

[fringe cedar]

That's what I'm saying! Why design something from the ground up now when you have other stuff in the pipeline - stuff people want!

In my eyes MagicX needs to just finish some of their projects. Stop edging everyone with all these different devices that sound great but inevitably get binned off. They are only harming themselves.

[sinful mortar]

you dont understand this is a company that does things by committee
do remember any committee putting out jack shit

[fringe cedar]

I understand what's going on, it's just annoying and frustrating to see

Commit or fold while you have the choice, or you'll inevitably just end up like all the other brands that have been left behind in the last year.

[bronze yew]

it really is a shame, as MagicX clearly has the know how and resources to make it happen, but is so risk averse that they don't release shit

well, they obviously need to do more to get their products visible, copy Anbernic, aside from the country jingle

announcement video, review units, put that shit up for sale

[vagrant iris]

Not sure if they are risk averse if they waste so much money on designing and making molds on stuff that never releases

https://tenor.com/view/broke-fairlyoddparents-burning-money-gif-4486655

[sinful mortar]

I mean its mostly 3d printed cad
its modeling work which isnt free but they probably dont have molds done till right before production

[bronze yew]

yeah idk, the money the burned with designs and molds probably eclipses the loss of an under-performing release by now

[sinful mortar]

hell they probably dont even have one35 molds till right now
OR THEY'D HAVE FINAL PHOTOS

[fringe cedar]

It's all well and good trying to forge your own space in the market and tout yourself as creative and proactive etc

But ultimately it doesn't count for shit if you have nothing for people to buy

[vagrant iris]

I think the best idea right now would be to release some stuff finally, TOne35 was a good start but also it is a bit of a question mark without any review and photos of released units

Im actually suprised its selling well right now, it means that with proper marketing and reviews it will sell a ton

[fringe cedar]

Totally. Like I said, they have the designs, they have the nice budget chipset... Just make something

[bronze yew]

visibility certainly is their biggest issue for already released stuff, Anbernic basically advertises their old devices by bringing a new one every other month... meanwhile MagicX did like 3 devices in 1.5 years? no surprise people forget about them and don't come back to pick anything older up

[long sapphire]

just be patient, if the market needs one40 it will definitely produce that. just have to be patient. xu retro has financial problem. they dont have the money for mid tier device.

[fringe cedar]

I thought MagicX have taken on the One40? XU is out of the picture - that's why they are making an ultra-budget clam.

I haven't ordered the One35 until I see some reviews, but I might hold off even longer and see if the One40 is coming... Or even a 1:1 G85 device.

I only own one device since getting into this whole thing. I have been patient for a loooong time

[vagrant iris]

Something similar will be made by someone else probably

[long sapphire]

pocket mini is the device as it is 4:3 aspect ratio and 4.2 inches but SabreJim dont like the design??

[fringe cedar]

I like flat rectangles

[vagrant iris]

We dont know the shipping price for it, could be $30 like all Ayaneo devices

[gusty matrix]

So, when is xu retro dream 1 coming out?

Or its bigger brother, now also fitted with a g85 as i recall?

[long sapphire]

it is already dead before arrival as mention by xu luna.
u need to wait for xu clamshell only 🙂

[gusty matrix]

I thought i read that too..... so any sub 70 g85 platforms coming out anytime soon?

Just looking for a decent gamecube emulator, the mangmi air x dissapointed me

Lack of performance

[long sapphire]

go get ayaneo pocket mini
gc performance much better

remember 3G version

[bronze yew]

for decent GCN emulation you will at the very least need a t820 device, so either grab the rg406h or rg476h

even that chipset requires tinkering with settings here and there, can't imagine what trickery you have to pull with half the library to run it on the Air Mini

[steel herald]

Final rendering of the 640/320 clamshell handheld, showing a 3mm reduction in width and other minor changes.

[bronze yew]

I'm still not happy with the circle around the buttons instead of it being a parallelogram, but oh well... it ain't looks too bad, just hope the final colors will have some metallic hue to it, like this blue

[leaden fog]

Looks alot better now

How does this chip compare to the h700?

[fringe cedar]

To be fair, I do think people will buy this. I won't personally but the screen/price on the 640 will probably be enough to make people think twice

[jolly kettle]

RK3188 should be just about capable of full mGBA

So the Flip 640 will be a pretty good GBA-specific device if you ask me

[long sapphire]

yes as long luna clamshell is selling cheap, she even may have a megahit.
but this discord chat hearing xu 35h50, xu dream1, xu dream2 maybe disappointed as they really want powerful like one35, air x or pocket mini.
still hope that luna could design a good selling handheld if got dual screen that emulate ds and cheap. maybe i will get one.

[long sapphire]

what for, rp5 price coming down. with the arrival of rp6. rp5 may reduce to 179/189 which make it hard to recommend t820 devices. infact rp4pro is selling at 149 performance is much better than t820. anbernic device is really overpriced.
pocket mini at 70 or 80 have cpu/gpu to play like 60 percent of ps2/gc is very impressive. price is also an important consideration.

[fiery panther]

Joey LIKES IT?

Holy shit

Let's celebrate

[solemn pumice]

Makes we want the dream1 even more

Especially since Luna confirmed they would have used the same big buttons

And similar transparent colors

And a cooler and more performant chip than the A133P

[bronze yew]

G85 yeah

[frigid condor]

the lighting in his thumbnail makes the "blue" xu20 actually look blue

[left niche]

surprised me too .. given its basically brick android

[fiery panther]

Yeah

I have the teal one

[bronze yew]

I still haven't bought a brickdroid

[fiery panther]

Dark teal

On sunlight it looks teal

[frigid condor]

me too

[bronze yew]

maybe would have grabbed it alongside the Dream One 40, but oh well

[fiery panther]

Can someone remind me what happened to the dream consoles

I lost track

This guys change their mind every day

[bronze yew]

cancelled despite them being uncancellable

plans totally locked in and such

[fiery panther]

And replaced by the reverse super SP?

Donkey sp

[bronze yew]

yeah, thrown away for the TiktokSP

which may or may not happen, who knows

[frigid condor]

interesting how joey links to an actual (albeit expensive) xu20 listing on aliexpress

and it seems to be a genuine reseller listing too

[fiery panther]

I just want my One35 and I'll be happy for a few months

[bronze yew]

hands down I still think MagicX will refund us all in 2 weeks, because they won't do the One35 anymore

[fiery panther]

Also yes I started calling it the One35 instead of Tone35

Since the day this got on the store

[left niche]

https://tenor.com/view/you-try-jinx-upset-really-mad-gif-14520037

[fiery panther]

If that happens I'm done with this two companies lmao

And I'll move to PC gaming and shit

[frigid condor]

i doubt they will give up on the one35

[fiery panther]

They can't

At least 1 batch they have to release

[bronze yew]

cancelled, gonna do the Retro45 now

oh wait, that's cancelled too, guess we do Flip now

[frigid condor]

cancelled

they're breeding cats now

[bronze yew]

they cast cats into plastic now and add a screen to it

[frigid condor]

[bronze yew]

Bobby you gotta go first

[frigid condor]

[coarse sorrel]

That's was my plan

[livid herald]

True. Next thing you know, they'll have announced or cancelled another device

[long sapphire]

https://youtu.be/YxDiG88-9lQ?si=cNhI8CPb58S74VGT

review by joey.
design by xu luna?

use android, need 2G of ram.

[steel herald]

XU20 has been underestimated by most players since its release. We hope that players in South America will like it when it is listed on AliExpress.

[frigid condor]

Which store?

[steel herald]

Just launched, AliExpress is adjusting the price in the system

[placid cosmos]

now make it horizontal

[frigid condor]

it must be the link Joey put in his video

[fiery panther]

Latin America ☝️

Includes Mexico and central America

And everything except the Guyanas

[steel herald]

The above appearances are all selected for XU equipment

[errant mauve]

I was having a good time with playing my xu20 earlier today but it still seems to overheat and crash every so often

It's weird, i dont really have that happen with my zero28 at all

Can keep it on sleep for games much much longer without an issue

[fiery panther]

Probably you need to replace the SD, for the crashing issue

WELCOME BACK TONE41??

PSP clone please!!!

[leaden fog]

What happened to this one

I remeber it having the same screen as the brick

[steel herald]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256809998815375.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2usa4itemAdapt

XU20 is now available on AliExpress at a very cheap price

[tall olive]

Is the SD card very reliable?

[steel herald]

Only one SD card out of every thousand units has a problem. After re-swiping the card, it is back to normal. It is no different from the brand SD card.

[long sapphire]

does the sd come with roms set or just empty sd cards. thanks.

[tall olive]

Bruh I was deciding which colour to get and the price went up $10

[tall olive]

Oh well. I bought the green one anyway, it will either replace my brick or become a gift for a friend

[long sapphire]

it is because of A133P chipset it is base on A133 chipset with overclock. yes, will have better psp and n64 performance especially compare to rk3326.
but the chipset easily get heated up.

[fringe cedar]

What does this all mean... Are these devices that are now cancelled or?

[fringe cedar]

I feel like I am being baited back into the Dream40 literally the day after I gave up on it. What is going on

[bronze yew]

Not gonna happen, I don't believe shit to exist until it's on sale

[fringe cedar]

Why did Luna just casually drop all those designs?

"Here's what you could have had"

[bronze yew]

She is making fun of your hopes and dreams @fringe cedar

[vagrant iris]

Especially of your DREAMs

[jolly kettle]

Of his WHAT

[fringe cedar]

I don't get this reference

Cool song though

[radiant lantern]

Touch screen z28? 🤔

[solemn pumice]

Pretty sure it was meant to be 3.2” 768p

[radiant lantern]

That'd be even better

[solemn pumice]

But like

It never really existed

It was just a dream

[radiant lantern]

A dream? I had a dream once

[bronze yew]

last one was 3.4" 960x720

[solemn pumice]

Emphasis on “was”

It’s all gone now

And if Luna posts old designs without a reason here again

I’m gonna tell Axin

[bronze yew]

we should just all leave the channel to flee from this abuse

[fringe cedar]

Yeah this Cuck Chair isn't that comfy

[sinful mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/mad-max-gif-9016456

Deliver us the one35 and dream40 and back away

[radiant lantern]

And the z34

[fringe cedar]

What if XU Retro is just a PsyOp

[coarse sorrel]

Happened to me to while looking for a coupon. Another sign that I don't really need it

Edit... instead I pre-ordered a One35. I may have a problem

[leaden fog]

would have been such a good device for gb/a 😭

[tall olive]

NGL price went up again after I bought it so I think it was cheaper for the first few buyers and then went to a regular price after a few sold

[drowsy bison]

I love the XU 20, it's unfortunate that more people haven't picked it up

[vagrant iris]

I waited for Dream 1 to pick both from their website

[ornate walrus]

What’s this?

[steel herald]

The Dream series is expected to return.

We are currently in negotiations with MediaTek regarding a dedicated, low-cost chip solution for the G85.

If the negotiations are successful, the Dream series will undergo some adjustments.

G85 2GB+32GB
Three devices are planned for release

4-inch 960*720

4.4-inch 1080*720

5-inch 1280*720

It does not support a touch screen, Wi-Fi, or Bluetooth.

It comes pre-installed with Dawn, an emulator-only system that is not compatible with Android apps.

The price on AliExpress is approximately $55 (including shipping).

Whether the Dream Series can be restarted will be confirmed before next Friday

[solemn pumice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1385011384307421224/1428826023063195659/Zelda_prygaet_vniz.gif

No WiFi

Did Axin sign this off?

[steel herald]

After the Dream series is confirmed to be launched successfully, the XU official representative will release

[flat quiver]

$55 linux G85? or just very locked down android?

[solemn pumice]

It’s incapable of Linux, it’s simply a very cut down android build

[coarse sorrel]

Android with no touch screen? Yikes

[solemn pumice]

Their Aurora (Dawn) Launcher is actually good enough as to where you can navigate seamlessly without a touchscreen.
No WiFi is the bigger problem ._.

[steel herald]

If you can't apply for a cheap chip solution channel from MTK, you can't start the Dream series. The normal price of G85 can't be low. MTK can only pass the cheap channel solution if it has quantity conditions.

[solemn pumice]

Leave out the touchscreen, that’s fine, but you neeeeed WiFi

[coarse sorrel]

Seamlessly? You ever try swiping down the notification bar from the top with no touchscreen? Lol 😜

[flat quiver]

yeah I think at least WiFi for cover art scraping

no Bluetooth nor touchscreen is fine

or at least a PC software to deal with the scraping

[coarse sorrel]

At least the mini zero i have has the mouse thing that pops up

[steel herald]

Dawn can be used as a simple Linux, only running the simulator

[solemn pumice]

What Luna said, the launcher is meant to mimic a Linux-like OS making everything that’s essential for usage accessible with button presses

[coarse sorrel]

I know. I just hear Android and think of all my android apps I want to download and use. It's all good. Plenty of devices to choose from

[fiery panther]

Android without touchscreen shouldn't exist anymore

Stop

And wifi is a must.

[steel herald]

MTK currently requires 100,000 units, which is impossible based on current market demand. Therefore, XU has developed several targeted plans, with $55 including shipping being the best target. The current plan targets 60,000 units by 2026, but this depends on whether MTK can meet the requirements.

[flat quiver]

yeah basically XU20

[fiery panther]

The XU20 is the best cheap pocket handheld for classic Android games rn

Anything that doesn't have touch screen, will be inferior

If you guys can't afford touch screen, leave the goddamn Android kitchen and use Linux

And learn how properly set up Batocera.

Ask the Knulli team, ask the Rocknix team, or even ask the MuOS team

[steel herald]

The Dream series can only achieve sales targets by exchanging market with ultra-low prices. If you want better equipment in G85, please choose the One series.

[fiery panther]

I did

You don't even have to say please

The key to success is giving people a cheap console without a bad setup and a comfortable design, that's it

[steel herald]

G85+Dawn can replace the performance of all current Linux devices

[fiery panther]

Without a need for a cfw

Well I mean

I guess?

Just because Linux doesn't have PS2 and GameCube but, is not like those games will run incredible without tricks on that

I feel like, they will just be playable

[steel herald]

To be fair, at $55, there's no reason to complain about the G85.

[solemn pumice]

At $55 I want WiFi though

[steel herald]

Just add a wifi dog

[flat quiver]

wifi dongle time 😔

[steel herald]

Dream series is the best upgrade choice for R36

[flat quiver]

having a 4:3 One series would be nice too, but yeah if the Dream model is competing against R36, it might be fine

[steel herald]

I'm worried about translation issues.
This news hasn't been confirmed yet.

We'll have to wait for official representatives to confirm.

One is a 4+64 Android handheld game console that also supports Google Store. Although both One and Dream use G85, they are two different handheld games.

The One series competes with the G90T, T620, and 662.

The Dream series competes with the A527/A523 and RK3566.

[sharp cloud]

How much would touchscreen add to the cost? I find that more critical than wifi for lower priced stuff (especially if dongle works)

[frigid condor]

You might have to design the entire OS around controller support though

The UI on the Mini Zero 28 isn’t going to make an experience that sells a ton of units imo

run a build of Android TV like Gamma does at the very least

[tall olive]

Every time the dream comes back it is just another curl of a damn monkey paw

Still hype though

[long sapphire]

hi luna,
if using g85, u need wifi and touch screen. it is mid tier chipset that can emulate psp/dreamcast/n64.
wifi and touchscreen essential.
this is not r36s type of device.

[frigid condor]

To be fair, the R36S broke grounds because it offered such good performance at a low price

The problem is, XU is on a tightrope between offering a lot for an average price, or offering just performance at bottom barrel prices

[sharp cloud]

If it's really sub 60 inclusive of shipping I will still probably get one (since I not interested in the one35 so don't have any other g85 handhelds), I think that might be the cheapest for a larger 3:2 which I have been asking for.

[tall olive]

Other than retro achievments what is the real benefit in WiFi on this?

[sharp cloud]

Scrapping I guess, which can do on PC or via WiFi dongle (if there is support)

[flat quiver]

yeah would be scraping

[sharp cloud]

I more worried about lack of touchscreen, such as potentially being stuck in some emulators ' configuration menu and not able to config the needed. Not sure how it works for those using the zero28

[flat quiver]

especially since Dawn/Aurora launcher does have in-device scraping

[flat quiver]

iirc zero28 does have virtual touchscreen with right analog, so might be fine

[long sapphire]

network play, retroarch update the core. online update of your emulator and update firmware online and etc. g85 is the chipset for budget handphone. without wifi without touchscreen. you are not using the power of the chipset.

[fringe cedar]

Aaaand just like that I don't want a Dream1 anymore.

[long sapphire]

yes wifi dog 🐕 so funny 🤣

[long sapphire]

u can have your dream1 but
no wifi dog
no Bluetooth
no touchscreen

[placid cosmos]

if people arent gonna buy your device over a $3 price difference for wifi, then they probly werent gonna buy it at all anyway

people definitely wont buy a device with no wifi if they wanted wifi, and dongles are annoying af

if your device was dead over $3 then just dont release it

[dry sierra]

no wifi and touch screen is a deal breaker

[tall olive]

I think WiFi would be nice but Bluetooth and Touchscreen aren't as big of a deal if you want it to be really cheap

[placid cosmos]

i can get around no touch if its not gonna play ds well anyway

wifi chips are cheap af

[dry sierra]

it's gonna be android no? navigating android without touch is bad

[fringe cedar]

Well ok it's gone from "This is the device I have been waiting for I'm 100% getting one" to "Wait and see"

I actually don't know if I mind having a streamlined Android experience - I'm a Linux guy. But is it just going to be annoying with all the concessions made?

Is the performance going to be what I want with only 2GB under the hood?

[placid cosmos]

you can navigate just fine with the dpad

you aldready do it on linux, this isnt any different

[long sapphire]

u know why r36s can do it with no wifi no touchscreen.
for 64G, it is selling 18 USD dollar on sales.
it come with 64G rom sets even got Nintendo roms set.
how your dream1 going to compete.
u need to compete mid tier devices. u have no choice.
g85 with wifi and touchscreen it unacceptable.

[dry sierra]

russ has said before on the magicx zero 28 that it's quite an inconvenience to not have touch on an android device

[sharp cloud]

It's stripped down android, no Google play stuff at the backend, so probably fine performance wise，seeing how the pocket air mini 2gb version is doing with a stronger chip.

[placid cosmos]

thats my classic, its fine

[long sapphire]

it is a stripdown android so your 2G seem okay.
without touchscreen
forget ds and 3ds games.

[placid cosmos]

its not like your gonna be missing menu buttons or anything lol

[coarse sorrel]

Stop acting like you going to use that device without ever touching the screen. Clear the notifications with just the dpad..

[placid cosmos]

you move your dpad, press a, or hit back/menu to do things

[placid cosmos]

i do it all the time

muscle memory in retroarch, its faster for me

its literally the same controls as a linux handheld

[coarse sorrel]

Can g85 even play 3ds?

[fringe cedar]

I'll wait for more details I guess.

I am still really drawn to the design/aesthetic and screen... The price is also very low considering.

Can I expect similar performance to the One35 just with less muscle to push the G85 chip?

[long sapphire]

without touchscreen for android will not be nice.
r36s can do without touchscreen as the arkos can navigate quite okay with dpad.

[placid cosmos]

yeah i just literally told you that unless your an asshat that cant use the dpad, android is fine with a dpad also
the devices use dawn launcher, which is sort of a daijisho fork, which, you guessed it, also works fine with just a dpad and whatnot

[tall olive]

I don't believe it would very well considering the ayaneo pocket air mini's 3ds performance

[long sapphire]

yes some 3ds games g85 is stronger than s662, s662 already can play some 3ds games.

[long sapphire]

i never said cannot, but the user experience will not be great without touchscreen for android.

[coarse sorrel]

Not sure why companies over powers a device and then handcuff it. I.e retroid pocket classic with no joystick.

[placid cosmos]

how do people use muos or knulli then? or stock anbernic/miyoo

[long sapphire]

can it install standalone android emulator? it will be affected.
can it download apk to play android games. yes it will be affected.

[placid cosmos]

so your argument is that you wanna download android games on it to play on a device that isnt meant to play them

[long sapphire]

this is low power chipset and so it use linux and u dont really can sideload emulator.

[coarse sorrel]

Weird to use a android device like well a android device

[long sapphire]

how about standalone emulator like duckstation and etc.
honestly, if got g85 chipset.
why u want a device with no wifi and touchscreen???

[devout thorn]

i dont think people in here are the market for this device

[placid cosmos]

^^^

was just about to mention that

[devout thorn]

this is for someone seeing a cool clip on tik tok

[placid cosmos]

i asked for a fully working device, and a bunch of others want a different price point device

[coarse sorrel]

This is true

[tall olive]

Yeah tbh I think most people in here want a pocket air mini basically and not the budget cheap but decent specs that Xu is trying for

[long sapphire]

if luna use r3188 and it dont have touchscreen and wifi i can understand. u need to sell cheap like below 30 to compete.

[devout thorn]

if they can make aurora a good android experience without a touch screen then i think this device will do well

[placid cosmos]

g85 will play DS medium well, tell me another standalone emulator that need touch

[coarse sorrel]

Was just hoping for a xu20 in horizontal

[long sapphire]

g85 has the power to use melonDS with upscale resolution. g85 is mid tier chipset.

[placid cosmos]

all i said was dont lose customer over a $3 wifi chip and then people jumped in for stuff like touch screens which will very much raise the price point to a different category

[sullen tide]

New Day New Plan

I feel we’re being trolled here

[placid cosmos]

that too

literally daily

[devout thorn]

yeah i do hope they lock something in and actually get another device out

[sharp cloud]

I was asking for a sub 60 (before shipping) device with a larger 3:2 screen such as the 4.4" one they want to use or the ktr1 screen, even if it uses something low end like a a133p.

If they manage to give me one with a g85 and even cheaper (since it will be inclusive of shipping), even better.
Hope it can get through.

[tall olive]

As is at sub $60 this looks like a good competitor to the trimui smart pro

[sullen tide]

So a locked down Android device
Sounds a lot like the SJGAM devices
Might as well just put Linux on them
Or give the Devs a couple of free units for CFW

[tall olive]

Linux takes a lot more development and CFW needs stuff from the chipset manufacturers I think

[long sapphire]

if luna xudream1 release at 45 dollar but no wifi, no touchscreen.
magicX one35 release at 55 dollar got everything.
will people choose xudream1 over magicX device?
xudream1 will sell well if price at 30 to 35. with g85 it is possible.

[tall olive]

Adding shipping it is 55 vs 74

[sharp cloud]

One35 won't remain at 55 before shipping as well

[tall olive]

True

[dry sierra]

usually we only see no wifi in like the absolute cheapest powkiddy or anbernic devices

but it doesn't really save that much money usually

[placid cosmos]

^it costs them pennies

costs us like 3 dollars

gimme wifi

[dry sierra]

Maybe they are targeting like a super budget section of the chinese market, if that's the case then I might not be the target audience

[placid cosmos]

like i said above, if 3 dollars is gonna kill sales, then it wasnt gonna sell

[dry sierra]

is it really 3 dollars though? The battle xp whatever was like 10 dollars cheaper than the rg35xxpro

although to be fair it also had bluetooth

and video out

I guess 3 dollars does stack up then

[placid cosmos]

most of a devices cost is the chip and screen, boards are pretty consistent, if a chip can do wifi, which not all can, you should add the wifi chip to go along with it, wifi chips dont considerable add to costs

the injeciton mold/s are a HUGE part of a cost

[frigid condor]

It depends on how low you can really go with the device price

I don’t know how low XU can really go with G85, but if it’s around $30-40, XU might just be targeting a huge crowd looking for actual unicorns

[placid cosmos]

^i dont think we need more datafrogs in this world

[dry sierra]

we need more datatadpoles

[fringe cedar]

Eh.. maybe I am not off this train just yet

The design/aesthetics and screen are still really appealing to me, especially at this price point.

Am I correct in assuming this will still handle N64/Dreamcast perfectly and a decent amount of Saturn? Or will the 2GB start showing on those systems?

The more I think about a Linux-style Android the more appealing it gets as I have never had an Android handheld. You would still get the system benefits like true sleep etc no?

No Wi-Fi and Bluetooth are big big losses though to the point where it's really pissed in the Dream1's Cheerios. It's literally like £2 worth of equipment to add to the board...

Much to consider...

[zealous jolt]

Hey look, XU changed plans again. Who’s surprised?

Let’s place bets on how long this one lasts, I got $50 on 3 days

[steel herald]

This is a launcher built using Android to run the simulator, which limits the application functions of Android. Just like the Linux open source system, it is easy to operate and run the simulator. It is not an Android handheld.

The Dream series is not specifically targeted at community enthusiasts, and the $55 G85 is unlikely to meet the needs of community players.

[fringe cedar]

Well, I'm definitely curious at least.

It might seem shallow but the combination of design aesthetic and screen is enough to keep me interested.

If the performance of the G85 is still decent with the lower RAM on board then it's still ticking a lot of boxes for me

No Wi-Fi is a real oversight though... For such a measly increase in price as well.

[steel herald]

I know what you want, but it's impossible to achieve your needs from a business perspective.

I also want a $20,000 1.2T Porsche, but it will never appear

[sharp cloud]

We can still install/sideload apk similar to the existing a133p devices right?

[steel herald]

Can

[jolly kettle]

No WiFi and touch...

Hmmm

I see what you're doing with making it purely an emulation device

[steel herald]

Yes, Android games are a bonus

[jolly kettle]

There's some light android games it could run

Unofficial ports like half life 1, doom and quake etc

Deltarune even

[jolly kettle]

Which can run on an a133p

Even some bargain bin WiFi chipset would be better than nothing, Bluetooth and touch I don't think would be necessary for a pure emulation handheld tho

[jolly kettle]

The latter unless you're aiming to play alot of DS/light 3DS

[fringe cedar]

Does anybody in this space actually care about Android games?

I know I don't

[jolly kettle]

Not so much other than the unofficial ports

Which the majority of have full gamepad support anyway

[fringe cedar]

Only reason I want Bluetooth is for headphones...

[jolly kettle]

3.5mm headphone jack is a must if there's no bluetooth

[fringe cedar]

I just don't want to have to use wired headphones in 2025/2026.

Back in my music production and audiophile days, yes.

Playing Super Mario Land in bed... Not so much.

[dry sierra]

wired is fine, it's only an inconveniece if you use earphones

those always dangle up

[fringe cedar]

No chance I'm putting my Sennheisers on while I'm trying to game comfortably in bed or on my break at work

Like I said, I am actually still potentially interested in this device, but for me the lack of Wi-Fi and Bluetooth are huge misses considering the negligible increase in cost it would have taken to have them on board.

I'll await further details on both before I choose this or the One35

Also sorry but a wire is a wire... What type of audio devices it is connected to is of no consequence when my issue is the wire

[dry sierra]

wired connection usually consumes less battery and has much higher audio quality, not sure how true the last part is with these cheepo devices

[fringe cedar]

Basically all of my concerns with this new information about the Dream series - and any new device really - is how easy is it to integrate into my day to day modern life.

How many hurdles am I willing to jump to get the performance I want at a reasonable price. These are things they will have considered too.

By making a handheld with no Wi-Fi/Bluetooth in this day and age you are just forcing problems onto your end user to deal with that are really unnecessary from how negligible the cost would be from a production standpoint.

Everyone's idea of a perfect handheld is different and at this price point there are always concessions.

But these things are basic must haves now in my opinion. You are making it DOA for a lot of people.

My beloved PowKiddy fucked this up repeatedly too.

[sharp cloud]

This is still unconfirmed to be released, and even if it does get released it will probably be far after the one35.
I think you should just go for the one35 or something else like the pocket air mini, or maybe any of anbernic devices.

[fringe cedar]

Oh yeah I understand. I'm already basically sold on the One35 now, but I want some videos/photos and some opinions from reviewers before I just go for it.

Really the only negative for me about the One35 is the screen size & ratio.

[long sapphire]

i know u are trying to design handheld to compete with rgxx series and trimui smart pro series. but rgxx got weak chip h700 but it got wifi Bluetooth and it can display to TV.
g85 cannot display to TV, no wifi, no bluetooth.
how is dream1 going outsell even rgxx aging handheld where it dont have h700 series features.

[fringe cedar]

David spitting hard truths

[coarse sorrel]

Unfortunately it sounds like they want to compete with the r36 series but using a g85 chip.

[long sapphire]

r36s dominate the ultra budget handheld. rk3326 is still a good chipset and now it can sell like 18-22 on with 64G. how is xu luna xu dream1 going to compete.

[livid herald]

Well, unless someone ports Ubuntu Touch to it like what happened with the Volla Phone 22 and Redmi Note 9...

[solemn pumice]

We both know no one’s gonna port shit

[livid herald]

Hasn't stopped people from trying

[bronze yew]

2gb RAM - I'm out
no touch screen - double out
no Wifi/BT - gosh don't even...

just toss it in the trash

[bronze yew]

So... are you saying there will be two versions? One with Touchscreen, Wifi/BT and at least 3gb of RAM?

[solemn pumice]

I think they should just partner up with Allwinner instead if they want to make budget handhelds

I don’t want no mediatek on crutches

[bronze yew]

well, I'm not going to buy it like that, so they can do whatever the fuck they want, but I'm salty that the original Dream One 40 probably still isn't going to happen... like... if you do this, at least convince MagicX to release a One 40, with touch, wifi/bt and 4+64

and don't tell me that can't be done, touch+wifi are $10, let's say a generous $20 for more RAM/ROM.. so $85 shipped for an actually good device please

[solemn pumice]

Luna is gonna hit you with the competition and market argument, saying that this is too close to g90t and sd662 and that they’re all losing money

We’ve been over this like 10 times already

[bronze yew]

cry me a river, if they can sell it for $55 shipped, they can also do a $30 more expensive SKU with actually good specs for us

[fringe cedar]

MagicX is focusing on their heinously ugly N64 themed device next, then I assume their next port of call will be the single screen clamshell that everyone is totally going to buy because they voted for it in the poll

The Dream40 we actually wanted that people would actually buy is dead brother

[bronze yew]

gotta wait for Anbernic to do a budget candybar with the t620

[coarse sorrel]

Id be happy with a plastic 405m with updated screen

[bronze yew]

d-pad on top tho

[fringe cedar]

Literally all these companies trying to get a piece of the Anbernic market-domination pie while also releasing ugly devices with no Wi-Fi/Bluetooth and substantial monkey paw bullshit baked in.

Anbernic pulls shit too but they get the basics right every time...

[bronze yew]

yeah, this cut down Dream may be able to fool idiots on tiktok, but I honestly doubt it, because those can't see the difference between how an rk3326 runs something like N64 compared to the G85 anyway

[jolly kettle]

Is the flip 640 still going ahead?

[bronze yew]

like we had so many of them come into this server to ask how they get GCN/PS2 games to run on their R36S

cancelled, obviously

[jolly kettle]

Grrr, that sounded like a good holiday season buy

[long sapphire]

if u focus on r36s segment, it is like u need to sell device like 5 inches screen but same performance and selling same price. i think it is very difficult for xu retro.

r36s is price sensitive so how to compete for this segment.

even anbernic has to use like battlxp brand to compete.

[bronze yew]

the issue with the r36s segment is literally that they have no clue, they will pay $50 for an R36S because they think it can run GCN/PS2, how anyone plans to advertise against that is wild

[long sapphire]

r36s from aliexpress is selling 18-22 no shipping on sales. how to compete with this segment

[tawny swan]

55$ with shipping for g85 is crazy actually

[dreamy lark]

what makes you think that someone that purchases an r36s thinks they can play gcn and ps2?

[bronze yew]

because we had enough people who purchased an r36s pop in here asking how to do so

[fringe cedar]

My brother-in-law got an R36S shipped for £17 off TikTok after seeing me playing my RGB30.

He was convinced it could play all these games/systems that came pre-loaded on the card it and was confused and taken back when I told him it wouldn't really run anything beyond PS1 because it was advertised as being much more powerful than it was. But afterwards he didn't really care because "It was only £17"

The G85 is wasted on that space in the market. It's people that - respectfully - don't know any better or even care. All they want or need to know is "Does it play Pokémon"

That's not even a shot at the R36S or the people that bought one. It's just the reality of that market share.

I mean... £17 all in for a respectable build quality handheld that comes pre-loaded with like 12000 games. It's a no brainer for the uninitiated.

Nothing is breaking into that space

[odd loom]

Does the xu20 not turn on if it doesn't have an SD card? Mine just arrived, tried pressing power and nothing happened.

[earnest mountain]

It boots from the sd card, so if you don’t have android installed on it (or no sd card) it won’t boot

Follow the instructions here: https://github.com/Magicx-Breeze/XU20_V32/releases/tag/XU20_v1

[odd loom]

thanks!

[plucky halo]

Plans are written on water or air it seems 🤣

[plucky halo]

except better spec clones with better screens and wifi/bluetooth at the same price 🤣

[long sapphire]

where is XU luna? everyone is waiting for her latest update.

[dry sierra]

chonky

[zealous jolt]

hmmm, been awfully quiet in the XU realm.... wonder what ewaste idea they're cooking up next

[coarse sorrel]

Luna deleted the picture 😆

[solemn pumice]

I still have it

[sharp cloud]

What's this?

[solemn pumice]

1/6 of one of the 2 pictures Luna sent earlier today

[sharp cloud]

For the flip 640? Or something else

[solemn pumice]

If I repost the whole thing… who knows what Axin is gonna do to Luna this time

[solemn pumice]

That’s right

[fringe cedar]

It's a risk I'm willing to take

I'm just waiting for confirmation of the Dream series getting the green light to be honest...

Any news? @steel herald

If the new proposal Dream devices can handle perfect N64, Dreamcast, PSP & some Saturn even with the lower 2GB RAM then I'm potentially still on board.

The tradeoff of these having the design I like and bigger/better screens than the One35 might be enough to sway me...

Maybe I'm just high on hopium

[slim gale]

Oh no, it’s happening again

Hopium is banned here, we can’t do that again

[frigid condor]

rah, spee

https://tenor.com/view/madlad-mad-emoji-umadbro-gif-6910204822398718006

[fringe cedar]

I have an unlimited supply... First hit's free... You want some?

[slim gale]

Having witnessed the slow descent into madness prolonged exposure leads to, I’ll pass

[fringe cedar]

I can quit any time

[tall ivy]

Will there be any price reductions during the 11.11 promotion week? I don't know if it's worth paying £53, especially with those fees, which bring the total to £70

the XU20 is a mini zero 28 vertical, right? I mean in terms of processing and performance, I don't know which one is more worthwhile.

[earnest mountain]

I have both the XU20 and the Zero28 with Gamma on it but I generally gravitate to the XU20 just because of the larger screen

[coarse sorrel]

Not sure, but I was able to use aliexpress coupons the other day (finally) and get one for ＄43 usd after taxes and shipping

[steel herald]

I believe MagicX will release two dual-screen devices in 2026, one dedicated to the NDS and the other to the 3DS.

[tall olive]

Cinema

[sharp cloud]

Nothing from XU 👀 ?

Don't have high hopes for 3ds if magicX is stuck with G85.

[fringe cedar]

Luna what's happening with the Dream series?

[fringe cedar]

I feel like I am the only potential buyer left

[vagrant iris]

Luna, how funny for you is the soc Anbernic used for RG DS? 😄 You guys can obliterate Anbernic

[zealous jolt]

They can, if they release something. But that’s a huge if

[steel herald]

I know everyone loves the Dream series and XU35. The retro handheld market is saturated, and the cancellation of these two models was due to my hasty announcement, which caused some dissatisfaction with the XU/MagicX series. I sincerely apologize!

The latest MagicX series features a completely new design and will begin to be released gradually in early 2026.

As for the XU series, it will retain the previously announced design and shift its focus to the low-end market.

[solemn pumice]

I assume you’re talking about the flip for XU, right?

[steel herald]

The original horizontal design of the XU30/35/40 will shift towards the low-end device market.

[solemn pumice]

Can you elaborate further? 🤔

[steel herald]

MagicX also abandoned these device plans, and the remaining screen molds were handed over to our XU company for the production of low-end devices.

[fringe cedar]

So the 2GB G85 Dream40 is officially cancelled now?

Can I finally move on?

Am I understanding correctly?

[fringe cedar]

This specifically, just to avoid any confusion

[steel herald]

Yes

[fringe cedar]

What a rollercoaster... Thanks for clarifying. I am disappointed but nevermind

[fringe cedar]

It's over bro... We can finally be free

[coarse sorrel]

They still got me on the hook for a one35

[steel herald]

An official video of the One35 will be released in a few days.

[fringe cedar]

This Blue better be good

[steel herald]

One35 is undervalued; I believe gold will always shine.

[fringe cedar]

It's definitely the most interesting out of the new wave of sub £80 devices

[coarse sorrel]

Do you pinky promise?

[fringe cedar]

Come on, beg for it

[long sapphire]

hi Luna,
u are right about the anbernic ds.
u predict A527.
infact they use even worse chip
rk3568. u are really accurate 🙂

[coarse sorrel]

Not without pics

[fringe cedar]

You have to beg for those too

[coarse sorrel]

Maybe I'll slide into Lunas DMs for pics of the devices

[fringe cedar]

Plot Twist: Luna is actually @long sapphire

[final agate]

I imagine the XU sp/clamshell is still in motion or was that cancelled? Looked very cute despite not knowing the dimensions of it

[solemn pumice]

I unironically looked up David’s message log because I was thinking the same thing

[fringe cedar]

Will the videos and pictures be released before the renewed Fan Pricing ends?

Just wondering if that new count down is coinciding with anything or if it was just a placeholder...

[tall olive]

Magicx rep said 5-10 days and the price was extended 10 days

[fringe cedar]

Yeah that's what I'm thinking... Got a feeling it's just straight up 10 days

[hardy pier]

Forgive the ping - but was curious which you find more comfortable? I'm drawn to the XU20 for potential one handed use (replacing my brick) but the zero28 is at a compelling price on aliexpress right now.

Right now on aliexpress - the XU20 can be had for ~$50 shipped, the Zero28 for ~$36 shipped.

I keep wondering if the zero28 being so small actually is uncomfortable as a horizontal device

[earnest mountain]

I think it’ll depend a lot on your usecase. I have small hands and decent eyesight so the small screen size is actually a strength of the device in my opinion. It’s designed for uber portable gaming of systems PS1 and below with some N64 and Dreamcast mixed in. That’s all you can really expect from it tho since no touch screen + 480p means DS and Android games/apps are going to be extremely limited.

The XU20 has a much larger and much more pixel dense touch screen that integer scales with DS. It will work much better for DS that doesn’t need both screens (I just finished playing Ghost Trick and it was fantastic). It also enables you to explore more of the Android app space. I’ve been messing around with Vita3k and interestingly enough I can get light stuff like Shovel Knight and 1001 spikes to run perfectly on it which can’t be said for the Zero28.

As for form factor, I have small hands so holding and using the Zero28 is usually pretty nice. It feels quite a bit sturdier than my Miyoo A30 and the joysticks are really nice (although I pretty much never use the right one).

I think the XU20 is worth the $50 but at $36 the Zero28 is basically a steal once you put some CFW on it. Up to you @hardy pier

I guess if you want integer scaling the Zero28 is better, but due to how pixel dense the XU20 is I usually don’t mind

[hardy pier]

I really appreciate this - these devices wouldn't run anything past PS1 (I have an anbernic 406V for the beefier stuff), and I'm a neanderthal, I stretch all content to 4:3 (yes including GBA, I know I know).

Meanwhile, I can't stop being irked by the bezels on the XU20, if they had just covered those with the shell I would've found the device to be perfect. Minor gripes but I love the look of the brick and feel like I'd be taking a material step back with this.

To your point, I may take the plunge with the zero28 and see how it treats me especially with GammaOS Core and a good test bench to see how launchbox runs on it. it also gives me a different form factor as right now I have the brick and the 406V which are both verticals

[earnest mountain]

Gotcha

I will warn you tho, Gamma still hasn’t fixed the headphone jack bug yet

[hardy pier]

didn't even realize there was a headphone jack bug, much appreciated i'll look into that.

[earnest mountain]

If you are okay with that, I’d say you’d have a great device on your hands

https://github.com/TheGammaSqueeze/GammaOSCore/releases/tag/beta3_a133p

There are actually a couple different bugs that Gamma hasn’t gotten around to fixing, but I find the headphone jack bug to be the most annoying one

[hardy pier]

yeah i had briefly found that specific OS when googling, since i run gammaOS Next on the 406V, but admittedly didn't dive too deep into it

ha i just saw it in the bug list, what a bizarre bug

[hardy pier]

@earnest mountain pulled the trigger on the Zero28 - thanks again for the feedback. Will be fun to tinker with and see if it can take the place of the Brick

[earnest mountain]

No problem. Hope you enjoy it

[hardy pier]

Here's hoping - and if I don't it was only $36, I've spent more on pizza for the family lol

[fiery panther]

The Zero 28 is fine

If you can handle the squeaky Dpad and spongy face buttons

[coarse sorrel]

Just got a RG353m screen protector that fits on the xu20 v32 from Amazon

https://a.co/d/a4wYzAE

[steel herald]

All products in the XURetro store will be removed on November 30th and will be moved to the MagicX store.

[fiery panther]

Rest in piss

[rustic lark]

guys how long did it take for you to receive your XU20？feel like ordering one now. Thanks in advance!

[fiery panther]

Half of a month

And yeah
Having both MagicX and Xu products in one will be more convenient

Like, they should have done that from the start

[coarse sorrel]

I maybe selling mine soon if your interested in a black one and in US

[eternal otter]

Can they still be purchased until then?

[steel herald]

There will be no change.

[eternal otter]

I have made an order on XU Retro website.

[umbral pecan]

Is the XU20 eventually going to hit AliExpress?

[coarse sorrel]

I bought mine on there with coupons when the price was lower...
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mq8qCUt

[umbral pecan]

24 sold... it arrived? Might pick one up.

[coarse sorrel]

Yea mine arrived. I may be selling it though soon once I get around to listing it.

[frigid condor]

That’s the listing posted by XU Retro. It’s legit.

[static aurora]

It's already for sale there for weeks

[steel herald]

Named R36SP, it is a dedicated GBASP device with some minor modifications and features a 3.5-inch 960x640 screen.

[sudden narwhal]

The name R36SP does sound catchy, but the number ‘36’ might make people immediately think of those cheap R36 clone handhelds. To avoid that association, it could be better to go with a different number or naming style. Maybe XU35SP? 😁

[radiant lantern]

Idk how I feel about the name, the buttons mimicking the position of the gba buttons is cool though

[steel herald]

This name is chosen because it's beneficial for keyword search engines; searching for R36 on AliExpress will show R36SP.

[radiant lantern]

Yeah that's kind of what I'm not crazy about it

You gotta do what you gotta do ig

[steel herald]

This gives people who originally wanted to buy the R36 a greater chance to purchase MagicX devices at a lower price.

[left niche]

basically a way to battle the nonames

makes sense i guess

[sinful mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/harvey-dent-die-a-hero-or-live-long-enough-to-see-yourself-become-the-villian-gif-21468252

[spark cradle]

will there be a version with a better processor

[idle sierra]

Which CPU is this one?

[sharp cloud]

Rk3188

#1266817458417832110 message

[steel herald]

This RK3188T, designed specifically for the GBA, is powerful enough to run emulators from models up to the PS1.

For even better performance, choose the One Flip 50. The G85 features a 5-inch 1920x1080 screen, more than twice the resolution of the PSP. Playing PSP on the One Flip 50 is a fantastic experience.

[dry sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/weird-al-becoming-fat-gif-10097206269524893330

[cobalt oracle]

Hey everyone, December is coming but is the $90 G85 XU35 H40 going to release or not, Information from XU people as far as I could scroll here, seems very confusing to me. Anything definitive?

[solemn pumice]

Oh it’s cancelled

XU negotiations with mediatek fell through and the g85 line they planned just wasn’t profitable enough

[cobalt oracle]

Thanks for clarifying this. Might as well get the RP mini for 150 as my 4:3 ish handheld with an SD 865 that is leaps and bounds beyond G85 at this point.

[remote swallow]

So the dream is dead.

[solemn pumice]

It was never alive, Luna fooled our assholes.

[remote swallow]

First Max, now Luna. When will these companies stop being weird about our assholes?

[solemn pumice]

I guess it’s not entirely dead because they moved their stuff to magicx.

So they could possibly do a One40.
But they held a poll and it lost against the OneFlip, so the chances of that are close to zero now.

[remote swallow]

Well that makes sense, the OneFlip is simply better.

It’s the whole reason I canceled my One35 order, since I decided I’d rather wait for the Flip they’re working on with the same chipset even when the rep I was talking to said they weren’t planning on making one. Lo and behold, now they’re making it.

[cobalt oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/tkt-smart-gif-20642718

Ok. Just got intrested in XU today and now my final verdict is, Until its out on Aliexpress, ignore the news.

[fringe cedar]

The Dream isn't dead, it is now going to be a PS2 level device coming out next year... Chip is not confirmed yet unless I am mistaken.

What was shown to us as the Dream is now going to be the first device in the "God Series" and will have a weaker chip than the G85.

What actually comes to market is anyone's guess at this point but Luna has shared that MagicX/XURetro intend to bring many devices out in 2026 across several ranges.

Buckets of salt required

[remote swallow]

Wait, I thought the XU35 H40 was literally the name for one of the Dream handhelds?

And that one of the main things about them in general was the price they were all selling for as G85 chipsets?

[fringe cedar]

No idea I'm afraid. All I know is what Luna has said the other day in the MagicX chat about their 2026 plans...

[fringe cedar]

You are talking to the wrong guy, I wanted the G85 Dream1/Dream40 more than any other device MagicX/XURetro has shown.

It was perfect to me

Now I'm left in limbo because aesthetically it was absolutely what I was looking for but probably won't deliver the level of performance I am after...

Just gotta see what chip actually ends up in that shell if it even makes it to market...

Bottom line - forget everything you thought was coming from MagicX & XURetro other than the One35.

It's all either cancelled or being reworked into something else...

[solemn pumice]

Man someone should give me some pinning perms so I could do what the channels mods don’t

[fringe cedar]

Yeah the same problem in the MagicX chat

So many announcements and images don't get pinned so it's hard to keep track... It's more like a Product Mythology than an actual Product Slate

[solemn pumice]

There’s probably some more stuff addressing the whole shift but I’m too lazy to find it

[radiant lantern]

The dream series would be competing in a saturated market, that's why they're pivoting towards the low end, which is even more saturated

[solemn pumice]

That’s why we rip the R36 name

[radiant lantern]

Yeah idk not the best look for the brand imo

[fringe cedar]

I think it will end up in the new TrimUI Smart Pro sort of ballpark

Not quite budget but not really challenging anything. If it ends up with smooth N64, Dreamcast and respectable Saturn I'll probably still cop because I love the design.

[radiant lantern]

I don't really think the $70-100 market is super saturated either, it's basically just the Pocket Air Mini and mangmi

[fringe cedar]

Yeah i think some of the problem is the price of the G85 and also it would be in-house competition with the One35.

As advertised it was basically a 4:3 One35 with no gimmick.

What I like to call "Perfect"

Now the G85 is pretty much destined to only be in the One35, the unnecessary clamshell and the 2 ugly as sin N64/GameCube throwbacks.

[left niche]

people love memberberries throwbacks though

look at how the anbernic ones are popular

[fringe cedar]

I have no idea what you are trying to say. Sorry

[devout thorn]

people love nostalgia

[fringe cedar]

I mean... Yeah, it's why we are all here

Doesn't mean those handhelds aren't ugly

[slim gale]

Reusing the chip never stopped Anbernic

Honestly a whole line of G85s makes the most sense to me

Every form factor

Every screen size and ratio

Give everyone what they want

[fringe cedar]

If there's one thing that MagicX have clearly shown they aren't capable of, it's pumping handhelds out

[slim gale]

I’d argue it’s basically easy mode once you do it once. It’s mostly just screen changes and routing a new board. The software is mostly reusable and that’s a much bigger cost overall

Maybe shell and button molds though I guess if the company is small

And perfectionist

[fringe cedar]

Other than that, I know you're right. I'm just bitter that the Dream40 got took out back and shot before even making it to the prototype stage

[fringe cedar]

Yes. Give me what I want. Dream40

[frigid condor]

they pulled out more handhelds this year than trimui and miyoo combined

[sinful mortar]

but will people remember them 3 years later like miyoo or trimUI

[left niche]

they could ... Zero40 was kinda special

[sinful mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/excuse-me-what-high-cat-what-did-he-say-gif-14708372304305338902

[left niche]

and one35 ciuld be the rgb30 equivalent for them

[frigid condor]

omg

[sinful mortar]

exploding batteries?

[devout thorn]

according to luna zero40 was one of the best selling this year

[sinful mortar]

according to luna r36s slop companies were going bankrupt

[left niche]

as in popular device of ewaste company that is powdaddy😄

[sinful mortar]

and now her company is making r36s slop

[left niche]

but they are derping the launch a lot 😄

[frigid condor]

powkiddy is moving to pickleball equipment again

[fringe cedar]

Don't think I could ever diss PowKiddy personally

The RGB30 was my entry point and I still love it over a year later

My kids both have PowKiddy devices that have never skipped a beat

I think they helped pioneer and propogate the emulation handheld scene. It's a shame they became a meme to most people

Maybe somewhat deservedly but they did some wacky stuff the other companies didn't/don't

[left niche]

i wasnt new A13 😄

[cobalt oracle]

Saturated market is at the top end and low-end. Mangmi could not have came out of nowhere and catch the world by storm releasing a 90$ HH in a saturated market. For me, it is 50$ and below which plays up to PS1 and my pick there is Miyoo Mini Flip and then it would be SD 8 Gen 2 devices and nothing more. there is a whole gap of 80-180$ that nobody is filling except anbernic and which is produces mostly e-waste at that price.

[cobalt oracle]

I agree. V90 was the flip, when Thor was a twinkle in the Milkman's eyes... RIP Powkiddy.

[steel herald]

MagicX didn't release multiple G85 devices across various models primarily because market demand was relatively small. Many retro gaming enthusiasts have already purchased multiple devices from the XX series, limiting their desire to buy more G85s. More importantly, most beginners will only buy the R36. Even popular models like the Z40 and RGDS only sold 10,000 to 20,000 units, a far cry from the over 100,000 units sold by previous blockbuster models.

[left niche]

meanwhile i am still waiting for worthwile mini/micro device with good screen and wifi (basically horizontal equivalent of the brick / successor to modelS)

[steel herald]

In my personal opinion, the One35 is the best miniature device ever made, bar none.

[stark stirrup]

Gimme metal for best miniature. I'm a metal head( pixel, brick hammer)

[steel herald]

The One35's casing cannot be made of metal because it has an additional directional pad and two side buttons, making its overall structure much more complex than that of ordinary devices. The current delays in One35 shipments are due to the casing needing to meet MagicX standards, requiring precision manufacturing and limiting rapid production. This has led to suppliers delaying deliveries.

[left niche]

I would still say its too big to fill my "model S" niche

[left niche]

God no

[meager dawn]

wasn't it like, one? or was the mini zero 28 this year? Trimui released the Brick Hammer I guess, if you count that, and Miyoo did the MM Flip, so

[sinful mortar]

TSP S is upcoming as well
should be before this unless they also have 9months+ of "issues"

also the Miyoo flip didnt start shipping till Jan 5? ish

[meager dawn]

Oh wow, that was this year? damn

[sinful mortar]

its confusing because preorders started december

[meager dawn]

ah yeah, good point

[sinful mortar]

but most articles are saying shipped in Jan