2025 XU Product Slate

[sharp cloud]

calling the dream 40 a "hypothetical device that is tentatively on a production schedule behind other devices" just based on what was mentioned above feels like exaggeration to me. I think Luna 's personal account will get purged as well at this rate 🤣

[fringe cedar]

Hey maybe! I want to be wrong!

I feel like the messaging and timings of everything have made it really messy and open to interpretation personally. I know some stuff will be down to translation issues as well.

Hopefully it all works out. I was hyped for the Dream40 but it's got really confusing what is happening in here

[long sapphire]

XU retro already got the prototype of xu dream 1 4.0 inches version.
it is now up to XU Retro whether they wanted to start collecting the orders to start production line for xu dream 1. As luna mentioned, they fear that if they release but the pre orders not to expectation, they may lose alot of monies. I believe they are looking at the situation now, their competitive devices mangmi air x, ayaneo pocket mini and magicX zero35 and still deciding whether will they want to take part in this mid tier devices war.

[bronze yew]

why wouldn't they, this will sell

[fringe cedar]

Absolutely. They have undercut some of the competition and the form factor is more appealing too in my opinion

[long sapphire]

yes, i hope that xu retro willing take the risk and take part in this mid tier device race. As their shipping cost is 10 dollar. xu dream 1 and magicXone35 may be the one that will sell very well as they are the cheapest for this type of performance.

[bronze yew]

and with the 4" 4:3 960x720p screen the Dream One 40 is the better all rounder between the two tbh

[twilit rapids]

Guess since the MagicX One will come with WiFi so will the Dream at that price point

[fringe cedar]

Not if David has anything to do with it /s

[steel herald]

Flip 640/320

Retro flip design at toy prices

[burnt current]

Definitely not feeling it in the slightest

[left niche]

tbh the target audience for "toy priced flips" is someone else than us hoarders 😄

[burnt current]

I was more thinking that this thing will be huge

Well not huge...

[idle sierra]

Why would it be huge? Looks around the same size as the 35xxSP

[burnt current]

But it's comparable enough to the 35SP

And a criticism a fair amount of people have for the 35SP in this day and age is that it's quite a bit bigger than the GBA SP

[steel herald]

Length 95cm, Width 85cm, Height 27cm

[clever verge]

640x320? is that the resolution of the screen?

[idle sierra]

Thickness is tough to get right, with battery sizes and cooling space

[burnt current]

You're not wrong, but the Miyoo Flip and 34SP made it work

They're thicker than the GBA SP, but still a lot closer to that than the 35SP was

[idle sierra]

Haven't had one in my hand to compare unfortunately

[steel herald]

Flip 320
3.5-inch 480x320
RK3188T clock speed 1.4

Flip 640
3.5-inch 960x640
RK3188 clock speed 1.6

[clever verge]

the Flip 320 feels like a waste of resources at this point in the market

[burnt current]

Unless you really want it for just GBA

But I doubt anybody would get it tbh

[leaden fog]

Never heard of the rk3188 can it handle mgba?

[clever verge]

its a Android based SOC

Flip 640 and ditch the other model all together

[left niche]

i feel like they are they are moreaimed at parents buiyng chape flip for kid

[clever verge]

save money

[steel herald]

The flip 320 is mainly sold on Tik Tok and is expected to sell more than the flip 640.

[clever verge]

the 320p screen is the same as the pkv10 screen. and that is the same one as the old 2023 Anbernic ones

i get your target audience, but man.....that is so scummy

the 640 at least feels like it has potiental

[steel herald]

A high-quality flip phone for $30, perfect for beginners

[long sapphire]

as long as it sell around the range of r36s, clamshell will be big hit as parents may buy for their children or for themselves. as it is near r36s price, it will be an impulse buy 🙂

[steel herald]

640 Even if you have a lot of equipment, you will consider buying it

[left niche]

so for comparision (if i googled right)
 RG35XX SP  97x85x26
RG34XX SP  92x82x24

[long sapphire]

hi Luna,
u are also designing 2 screens retro devices like ayn thor am I right?

[steel herald]

Low-end dual screen, also different screen, supports touch screen, Android 7.1 can not software, mainly DS dual screen display function

[storm warren]

320p screen in 2025, what is this

[left niche]

cheap tiktok device

[storm warren]

https://tenor.com/view/dumpster-cyberpunk2077-garbage-landfill-junk-yard-trash-land-gif-26927850

[left niche]

basically competitions for the nonames

[steel herald]

320 You can ignore

[long sapphire]

but i believe it only support ds emulation definitely cannot play 3ds. definitely will support it to replace my ds lite.
but anbernic ds is coming rumours with t620 chips can play 3ds games as well selling 100 dollar.

[zealous jolt]

Why does it look so… off?

[steel herald]

T620可能性很低，A527吧

[zealous jolt]

Maybe the buttons are all scrunched towards the middle too much?

[leaden fog]

Thats much more comfortable to hold but looks very weird right

[zealous jolt]

That’s a big boy right there

I’m guessing you meant mms

[long sapphire]

thanks for your info.

[leaden fog]

What does it say?

[zealous jolt]

“The T620 is very unlikely — let’s go with the A527 instead.”

Well, at least according to chat gippity

[steel herald]

A527 can fry eggs, it must be equipped with an active cooling fan

[tawny swan]

a527 just bad at all

[fiery panther]

I think a 35xxsp on discount can do a better job than that...

I don't see the point on this

[steel herald]

A527 will heat up to 50-60 degrees when it is turned on and not in use, and 70 degrees when running PSP DC

[sharp cloud]

Have you tested both chips you mentioned for mgba (and see if can still fast forward)?

[steel herald]

A527 has a different screen function, and the development is relatively simple

[steel herald]

I asked the technicians, and they said the 1.6 main frequency should be able to fast forward normally, but I haven't tried 1.4 yet.

[spark cradle]

what about the one with higher resolution?

same design?

[steel herald]

The appearance is the same

[zealous jolt]

Shit even the v90s would be better and that’s like $40

This thing is gonna be like releasing the original v90 in 2025

Pointless

[idle sierra]

The cheap one is for TikTok sales, the better one is a 34xxsp with a much better screen

It makes sense to me (nobody here should really care about the cheap one too much)

[fiery panther]

TikTok was a mistake

It rots people's brains in many ways, at the point of making them buy e waste

[zealous jolt]

And a weaker soc

Idk I don’t see the point. Especially when the v90s is the same price after shipping, the 35xxSP is $5 more, and the 34SP is $10 more

[idle sierra]

For GBA it shouldn't make too much of a difference, though I'm not too familiar with this chip

[idle sierra]

The screen is the big one, that's a huge difference for a dedicated GBA clone

[steel herald]

The Flip 640 boasts four times the performance of the GBA. Its 4000mAh battery lasts 8-10 hours. It also features silicone directional pad and buttons. It also has dual speakers.

[zealous jolt]

That’s true. I guess I just don’t understand the whole handheld dedicated to a single system thing. I tend to stick with using one main device, so I prefer it to be able to play multiple systems with minimal compromises

[sharp cloud]

Definitely interested in the flip 640 if it doesn't come with $20 shipping fee, and if no one else releases a budget 3:2 device with the 4.4" or ktr1 4.5" screen first

[zealous jolt]

Four times the performance of the original gba? Assuming that’s not a mistranslation, that’s not great lol. I don’t think the gba cpu can emulate anything except mayybeee nes

[steel herald]

The Flip 320 is not the device the community wants, you can ignore it

[sharp cloud]

Quite obvious she means 4x resolution

[zealous jolt]

Idk how that’s “obvious”, but thanks for the clarification

[steel herald]

It might be more interesting for us to talk about dual screens

[zealous jolt]

Like I’m supposed to know that “performance” in this context means “resolution”? How?

I’m about it

[steel herald]

Dual-screen configurations are also possible.

RK3288 with two 4-inch 640x480 monitors

A333 with two 4-inch 960x720 monitors

[bronze yew]

Ain't looking enough like a GBA SP tbh

You gotta have to make it look so much like a GBA SP that Nintendo sends the ninjas after ya

[steel herald]

The appearance is 90% similar. The panel is impossible to replicate. There are more buttons and an extra speaker.

[sharp cloud]

Not considering the 4" (fake 4.2") 1024x768 screens?

[steel herald]

not understand

[burnt current]

Wait how was that 4.2" screen fake?

I think I know which one you're talking about

[sharp cloud]

不考虑r46h, r42 pro等等用的那款4:3 1024x768屏幕？
宣传是4.2寸但其实只有4寸那款。

[steel herald]

The best 4-inch screen should be 960x720

[zealous jolt]

For anyone else who’s curious: “Not considering the 4:3 1024×768 screen used in models like the R46H or R42 Pro?
The one that’s advertised as 4.2 inches but is actually only 4 inches.”

[coarse sorrel]

And the colors seemed a bit off but not sure what that was about (red would be orange on games)

[sharp cloud]

Cannot integer scale nds (256x192) though 😭

[steel herald]

Two 3.2-inch screens 1024x768

[zealous jolt]

That actually sounds awesome

[spark cradle]

A333 option sounds interesting if it supports touch

do you mind giving us a rough price?

[sharp cloud]

Inclusive of shipping

[spark cradle]

I personally am fine with two 4 inch monitors, I would be playing on my DSi if the screens weren't that shit and they're like 3.3 inch monitors

[spark cradle]

also yeah you guys really need to offer local shipping options for people who live in China

[idle sierra]

Rough estimate where these could be priced?

[spark cradle]

I get free shipping for handhelds on JD.com/Pingduoduo

and those handhelds are usually shipped from the Chang Jiang Delta

you guys are shipping the device to a city right next to your headquarters and are charging me 19 USD for it

[fringe cedar]

Another day goes by in the XU chat where the only news is landfill handhelds...

[long sapphire]

from retro game corp

[fiery panther]

Wrong channel

[steel herald]

The XURetro store will close on November 2nd.

[zealous jolt]

wut lol

[jolly kettle]

Huh

What's happening with the xu20 v32 then

[steel herald]

In the future, XU devices will be sold on AliExpress and Tik Tok

The product has not changed, just no high-cost independent store

We currently have three goals: 1. Sales; 2. Sales; 3. Sales are paramount.

[tawny swan]

dream 2 = sales

think about it

https://tenor.com/view/cat-annoyed-stare-side-eye-gif-16732086699915766519

[steel herald]

According to the current market situation, MagicX is unlikely to achieve the sales volume MTK requires. The cheap D7300 cannot be signed unless Dream 2 is manufactured with 3326.

[fringe cedar]

Is the Dream 1 / Dream 40 still coming 🙏

[steel herald]

The two molds of Dream 1 are being opened and the screen is also made. When will it be launched? You have to ask MagicX.

Dream 1 will not be launched on XU, when it is launched, it will be launched on MagicX

[fringe cedar]

Well, I would assume they don't want to cannibalise their One35 sales so it's probably safe to say the late October pre-sale as advertised ☝️ isn't a reality...

Can I at least hope for it this year?

[steel herald]

I have said many times that whether MTK's Soc devices will be launched or not is not decided by MagicX.

MTK and MagicX have developed five SoCs, G85, G510, D7050, D7300, and D7350. MagicX has developed 13 sets of molds. This year, the retro handheld market is seriously saturated, and sales are declining, which has turned their ambitious attitude into a wait-and-see attitude.

So we at XU no longer use MTK's SoC, as we don't want to be constrained by others.

[fringe cedar]

Womp womp... Well it's certainly been something in here...

Thanks for your honesty @steel herald, good luck with your clamshell.

However I would personally advise that in the future, XU and MagicX should withhold their plans until they are closer to a reality. The way this has played out feels very strange from a consumer point of view... Almost like a hype rug-pull

I maintain my previous stance until proven wrong that it was kinda gross to ask people to advertise a product that is now apparent was barely past it's design stage as if it was ready for sale...

Guess I'll add the Dream 1 to my list of hopium devices along with other vaporware like the RGB10Max4 and RGB50

[woven shell]

yeah i'm honestly just done playing this dumb xu game for now

show me products that you're going to release, keep the concepts behind closed doors

[bronze yew]

That will be bad for selling to western folks... as AliExpress auto-vats us in the EU we would be out $(66+(whatever will be added on top for shipping))+20%... so probably $90 for the Dream One instead of $76... I'm out

[crisp plank]

https://tenor.com/view/backstreet-boys-quit-playing-games-gif-10177187

[bronze yew]

Oh Dream One basically shelved anyway, oh well

XU Retro focusing on e-waste isn't really interesting

[jolly kettle]

You forgot about 4. Sales

[bronze yew]

For sales they need an attractive product

A clamshell that's barely passing as a GBA SP clone, ain't it

[jolly kettle]

And 5. Sales

[bronze yew]

Heck, do a fucking Wonderswan clone, that at least would be something

And NeoGeoPocket would also be fire, but you gotta steal 8bitdos stick for that

[storm warren]

I thought it was dodge, duck, dip, dive and dodge

[dry sierra]

ayo? we are finally getting an ayaneo micro sp?

I've wanted this for a while now

[robust raven]

praying this is the one that actually makes it out of the discord

[twilit rapids]

What would be the next best thing to Dream one with 4 inch screen, flat back for pocketability and runs Android at under $100?

[woven shell]

Touch One 35

[bronze yew]

but that's a 3.5" 3:2 screen

but yeah, closest you currently get tbh

well, rg405m used should maybe go for sub $100

we just gotta shake @frigid condor until he convinced Sean to release the Dream

[pine current]

they should if they want to stay in business lol

[bronze yew]

well, I doubt MagicX is eager to throw it out while the One 35 is still on pre-sale

so I guess earliest is November

but honestly I just don't want the Dream devices to end up like the rest, just release them, you made everything anyway and it will sell... maybe not the amount they want, but heck a 4" high-res 4:3 handheld for ~$75 shipped is bound to sell

especially if it ends up on AliExpress I don't see a reason why people wouldn't pick it up

[tall olive]

The ayaneo pocket air mini is probably the biggest competition with it's much better scaling screen (although it has some ghosting apparently) even though it is more expensive

[bronze yew]

720p is excellent, especially for a device like this that is 5th gen and under mostly

only 1440p integer scales more systems

[coarse sorrel]

What was the 4.4 inch 3:2 called? That one is dead right?

[earnest mountain]

The XU40 H44? It's been a long time since we've heard about it so I think it's safe to assume that one is gone

[tall olive]

Mb much better scaling is a over statement but IMO 960 looks more preferable: https://mytechtoybox.com/2021/03/27/retro-console-emulation-and-integer-scaling/

[steel herald]

4-inch 960x720
4-inch 1440x1080
4.5-inch 960x720
4.5-inch 1440x1080
4.4-inch 1080x720
4.4-inch 1620x1080
5-inch 1280x720
5-inch 1920x1080
5.5-inch 1280x720
5.5-inch 1920x1080
4.5-inch 1080x1260
3.6-inch 720x540

These screens are the equipment that MagicX can manufacture, like an aircraft carrier fleet.

[fiery panther]

Interesting

Btw Luna did you said that the 40 dollar GBA thing can run mGBA, right

And what Android build it will have

[steel herald]

Unfortunately, MagicX didn't have enough time to show their skills. They entered the handheld game console market too late. The $60-100 device market had already collapsed. No matter how hard they tried, they couldn't change it.

[steel herald]

The dawn of Android, just like Linux, only plays games

[twilit rapids]

Ghosting shouldn’t be that big of an issues if you just emulate handheld systems with an accurate look because all their crappy little screens had ghosting.

[tall olive]

So true

[pine current]

the z40 showed some insight into the things people want, and a willingness to innovate, same with the 64 focused system. even the bigger z40 concept as a 2ds style system would've been really cool. I really like all my magicX devices. hope they can hang on.

[frigid condor]

MagicX manufacturers their own screens?

[steel herald]

In a few days, I will go to the MagicX development department to take pictures of these screens and show them to you.

[frigid condor]

but like, they own a screen factory?

are they more than a game console manufacturer?

[steel herald]

During this year, they prepared a lot of good things about retro handhelds

Hall's joystick, mouse, and triggers

[fiery panther]

MagicX Smart TV when

[steel herald]

To be fair, One35 is much higher than its competitors in terms of creativity and technology, but many people ignore One35.

[pine current]

sounds like they already make tv boxes. wonder what those are like...

[fiery panther]

They are ok, but locked down firmware kills it

They also have a small android tv for games

With no touch

They should do something like that but with better hardware

[pine current]

like this sort of thing, but plays games?

[fiery panther]

Hell yeah

[pine current]

slap those 5" screens in em. I've seen several companies make the little screens, but you can't do much with them.

[fiery panther]

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mLV6djx

This is it

[steel herald]

The development of One35 is very difficult, and it is basically an original design with no equipment to learn from.

[fiery panther]

https://tenor.com/view/peppino-tv-hud-idle-pizza-tower-gif-26432283

Do you promise it being good

[pine current]

they could even slap that thing in a case and market it to the tiktok crowd and make some money.

[steel herald]

MagicX is an industry leader in retro home consoles

[fiery panther]

They should make a version with fully open Batocera.

[steel herald]

It's just that they were late in the handheld field, so people think they are a new company

[fiery panther]

I see

But was I was saying

Xu or MagicX should release a some form of modern Android TV Box console

With good specs

And not locked down

Maybe with Dawn as the launcher

What do you think

Maybe one with PS2 capabilities

[pine current]

so with the xu site closing, will the v20 be distributed through ampown, too?

[steel herald]

xu20 will be available on AliExpress soon

[fiery panther]

Luna you didn't answered my question

Any of them lol

[pine current]

https://youtu.be/c_z5sh6oILY

welp, you guys have screens, you guys have screens with game consoles built in, you have access to molding...just needs marketed. you have most of the stuff already.

also, any clue if there are any white or gray dpads for the One 35? The only reason I haven't bought one yet is because I can't decide on color and I kinda want blue and gray.

Also yes...listen to rich lol and me. make a high and low end one
the "retro tv" one for xu retro could be like this tv techdweeb reviewed, but with all in one.

[fiery panther]

PS2 TV box would be fire.

It could be just a box with a fan or a TV with that shape and the TV Box inside it

[pine current]

I mean, people are buying consolized galaxy s22's on aliexpress, so...it's possible it could sell. android is nice over dealing with mini pc's for smol emulation boxes, imo.

[fiery panther]

CRTs nostalgia is the next big hit after handhelds... Save my message

The money is there, consider it

[hoary egret]

The 1440x1080 4.5 screen is interesting

[long sapphire]

hi luna.
Thanks all the information you are providing.
it feel that XU retro and magicX are sister companies.

[tall olive]

I think the biggest issues with the one 35 is the delays and lead up to launch, not having a showcase of it until after it loses one of it's discounts is kind of dissapointing but hopefully it will be well received by the reviewers and will gain some steam from that.

[vagrant iris]

I wouldn't be suprised if consumer base wasn't even aware that it's finally coming out. Too many projects announced and canceled right after. But yeah, after reviews it should be good I hope, it has potential to sell even better than Zero40

[steel herald]

Just received good news, One35 pre-sale is going well, MagicX may soon announce One40 or One flip

[tall olive]

That's good to hear

[pine current]

awesome!

[fiery panther]

So should I save my money for One Flip instead of buying a Tone35

[vagrant iris]

I'm sure after reviews and good word of mouth from the customers it will sell even better (like Miyoo Mini, sold really well because the people loved it despite the initial reviews were negative)

[pine current]

get the one35, save for the one40 and flip. become the console hoarder we all are.

[fiery panther]

If it's the same thing but clamshell, I'm sold

[tall olive]

I'll probably order one after a week or so of procrastinating and considering whether or not I want it

[fiery panther]

The psychologist isn't going to pay itself dude, can't

[steel herald]

This week they discussed market competition strategy with MTK again. The MagicX boss said that if they can successfully acquire the D7300, the new device will be sold at $90, becoming a dark horse in the handheld game.

[tall olive]

How strong is the D7300?

[pine current]

oooh

[long sapphire]

really, it will be a great news.

[pine current]

have you played with a one 35, Luna?

[vagrant iris]

wow, OK it will be a killer device

[fiery panther]

Saving my money then

For the same price of the Tone35... Is kinda tempting

[steel herald]

Anyone who experiences One35 for the first time will be pleasantly surprised

[zealous jolt]

“May” tells me all I need to hear tbh

[pine current]

idk...I carry my z28 a lot and wish it has more power and bigger frequently.

[tall olive]

Is the screen quite bright?

[pine current]

if it's a z28 with powah...

[fiery panther]

2027

[pine current]

RP5 killer.
https://www.topcpu.net/en/soc-c/mediatek-dimensity-7300-vs-qualcomm-snapdragon-865

[steel herald]

When used in sunlight, 80% brightness is sufficient

It's unfair for me to judge the One 35 as good or bad. If it were gold, it would always shine.

[fringe cedar]

Didn't have being repeatedly edged and cucked by a handheld manufacturer on my bingo card for 2025 but here we are

[fringe cedar]

To be fair the One35 looks like a solid device, I just like the design and screen of the Dream40 better

[tall olive]

Sweet!

[tall olive]

Oooo

[pine current]

we all keep coming back though, so it must not be that bad 💀

[bronze yew]

no, it literally makes no sense for the western market, as a cheap Mini PC would be less and you can just push CFW onto that 😅

[bronze yew]

well, I bought two, now they gotta have to let me buy a bunch of Dream One 40s so I can get them before Christmas

[coarse sorrel]

Is the one40 = dream 1? Too many names being used.

[fringe cedar]

It's because the Dream40 looked like everything I had been waiting for.

Clean simple design
Nice screen, should comfortably play Dreamcast/Saturn/N64 and below, decent battery... All topped off with a really attractive price.

How they think it won't sell is beyond me 🤷‍♂️

[fringe cedar]

Yes... Very confusing.

Dream 1, Dream40, One40...

But yeah, all the same device 🫠

[bronze yew]

I think we gotta scratch the Dream and just call it One 40 from now, as it's going to be MagicX not XU Retro

One 35, One 40, One 50

even if I'm a little disappointed that the One 50 won't be this

[fringe cedar]

I'll settle on a name when any of them make it past this mass hallucination / shared psychosis stage of MagicX's development cycle

[fringe cedar]

Looks like I never want to lay eyes on it again tbh

[bronze yew]

no, that has a bad aspect ratio and too small screen, also no 2nd d-pad... I ain't gotta play with a damn stick

also if the Anbernic DS is any good the above my be out of job for everything but Arcade games anyway

[steel herald]

I hope MagicX can get MTK special channels, D7300 can change the high-end device crowd

[solemn pumice]

Not even OneX Sugar would attempt this

[storm warren]

Missed chance to cram in a third dpad

[steel herald]

The G85 is the standard configuration for the PSP, DC, and N64.

The D7300 is the standard configuration for the PS2, GC, Wii, 3DS, and PS Vita.

[steel herald]

Which of these retro device companies do you think provides the worst Android experience?

[frigid condor]

they're all mediocre at best

Ayn has a great keymapper but no custom frontend

Retroid's frontend takes a long time to set up for subpar results

[bronze yew]

Powkiddy

but realistically speaking of those actually still in the game, probably Anbernic, always some issues Gamma gotta fix

[frigid condor]

Anbernic's keymapper is terrible and it's frontend is worse

and they ALWAYS have some severe firmware issue

[bronze yew]

I mean, none of them has a really good frontend

[frigid condor]

and that's kind of the problem

[bronze yew]

like even Ayas sucks ass and we just use Beacon or ES-DE instead

[frigid condor]

they could all have great frontends

but they don't bother to invest some time into it

[bronze yew]

I'm happy if the Android build itself is solid

I can make it fancy myself

[frigid condor]

It says a lot when MagicX makes a better frontend with one developer than Retroid and Anbernic does with a team

[bronze yew]

arguably for the casual customer Dawn launcher is neat to have

[bronze yew]

what team? two drunk interns and a cold pizza?

[frigid condor]

True, but I like it when manufacturers bother to make a good frontend

They have system level control over Android, they could do good stuff with that

but almost no one does

[frigid condor]

[bronze yew]

ehh, I mean, it would be nice, but it really only matters with devices that ship with ROMs IMO, like Anbernic should totally set their shit up with a nice frontend like MagicX does, but Retroid, Ayn and Ayaneo? Why?

[frigid condor]

For Ayn, having a good frontend that takes advantage of their dual screen setup would've been awesome

[steel herald]

The One35's button mapping is also excellent.

[frigid condor]

i wanna see

[bronze yew]

and quite frankly even if any of them had a good launcher, we would in most cases still replace it

[frigid condor]

Fair

But I still want companies to try

Third-Party frontends can't add features like game-specific performance modes, game switcher, or stuff like that without having some advanced/root permissions

Anbernic doesn't even offer in-device scraping on their frontend

[fringe cedar]

Sigh

[steel herald]

I asked MagicX if I could make a video about One35 features, but they refused and said that One35 needs bloggers to experience the release, so there are very few official videos about One35.

[left niche]

by bloggers you mean the reviewers?

[frigid condor]

sean once referred to them to me as "propaganda channels", so you can assume she means reviewers

[left niche]

😄

peak translation

[pine current]

So far the only android stock os I've kept has been Dawn. Anbernic's and retroid's are both pretty bad. gamma os or just daijisho is better than everything else, but dawn is pretty functional, I like it.

[vagrant iris]

Probably it would be a good idea to have such video anyway, even if just to guide the reviewers on what's possible on the device, not sure if they have enough time to find out on their own - they review multiple devices all the time

[burnt current]

Yeah I heavily agree

[steel herald]

RK3566 with a 3.6-inch screen (720x540) and Linux. 64GB TF card for $38 on AliExpress. What do you think?

$38 includes shipping

[tawny swan]

3566 time is over

[burnt current]

Oh right this oddball screen

[pine current]

this is the one to hit the r36 segment? looks solid. any other colorways?

[sullen tide]

Yes Please

[burnt current]

I don't dislike it, but I definitely think the time has passed for a device like this

Especially since this would be in direct competition with the RG35XX Pro

RK3566 is more powerful than H700, but not by enough to really differentiate the two IMO

[long sapphire]

hi Luna,
focus on your clamshell or dual screen for ds games.
rk3566 normal 3.5 inches is over saturated. people get r36s wont know the different.
focus on something new please

[tawny swan]

a133 also

with magic boost android vulcan, which can pare with 3566

[burnt current]

I mainly mentioned H700 because I don't think there's actually a main A133P devices with the R36S form factor

[fringe cedar]

Jeez. MagicX/XU Retro moving their own goalposts on an hourly timer 🤣

[clever verge]

Yes! 3566 still has the best Port Master support without Brute forcing it

[grand ibex]

N64 library should be a bit faster on 3566 compared to h700 right? Not sure if full speed.

[fringe cedar]

As an RGB30 enjoyer I can confirm that some N64 is fine on the 3566, but definitely not all.

It is better than the H700 though

[jolly kettle]

720x540 could be good for 3x GBA

[clever verge]

With new UnofficialOS Core, which is still the Spruce Cores, N64 performance is great on the 3566

[bronze yew]

an rk3566 for $38 shipped may have worked a year ago, but now? ehhh

[fringe cedar]

Is there a build for the RGB30? Yes Google exists. Yes I am a noob.

[clever verge]

Yep, I'm using it as my main OS. Yes, I was Credited for testing. Yes, I am extremely Bias in my opinions

[bronze yew]

honestly, if it's low end Linux stuff you guys wanna do, flood the market with decent quality rk3326 hardware clones of the Gameboy Pocket/Color/Advance SP, Wonderswan, Neo Geo Pocket, Gamegear and Co. at a price point that makes people impulse buy it, like if the Funnyplaying Pixel Pocket would be half it's price, I would have bought two already

sure they may be copied, but the CFW support is worth it and a more powerful chipset is completely unnecessary

[tawny swan]

3566 device should be super simple and cost 30$ to be interesting for now

after shipping

[fringe cedar]

Ok, let me ask you then...

I have been using the 20240206 build of JelOS since I owned my RGB30.

I have experienced no problems, crashes, glitches or battery issues since I owned it.

Convince me to "upgrade" to UnofficialOS - what's the benefits?

Sorry, I must reiterate, I am a noob

[tawny swan]

it still can be impulse buy

[long sapphire]

if there is magicX one35 at 55 maybe on sale at 45-50.
is there a need for another rk3566 handheld.
it is over. don't.

[zealous jolt]

But where are you getting a one35 for that cheap?

[bronze yew]

rk3566 is dead indeed, which is why I don't see the point in making more handhelds with it

like the 3326 does up to PS1 just fine enough and XU seems to aim for people buying impulsively on tiktok, pushing a $25 handheld is way easier than one for $40

[zealous jolt]

Everyone saying the 3566 is dead is crazy. Yall really don’t want to see Linux devices anymore?

[fringe cedar]

Preach

[bronze yew]

Linux will soon be exclusive to the lowest end and high end handhelds

but jokes aside, an rk3566 just makes no sense if their aim is the "people they advertise to on tiktok"

those don't know the difference, don't need the extra power and with the suggested hardware clones neither do we honestly

[clever verge]

It's JelOS, but updated to 2025

Updated Cores, Updated Port Master Support, etc.

But, again. I am Bias. It's plug & Play same as JelOS you are used to

[sharp cloud]

Sub 40 on AliExpress and > 80 inclusive of shipping is two different market segment

[bronze yew]

and honestly at this point even I am way more likely to just grab another rk3326 if it's cheap and has something interesting going on, instead of paying way more for an rk3566 I won't utilize in light of vastly better options

[tawny swan]

actually dont

or they should be at least has decent power

[grand ibex]

3566 is probably the most powerful linux-supported chip right now

[bronze yew]

that would be the 8gen2

[grand ibex]

Should have added cheap

Anything above H700 is primarily android

[bronze yew]

still what would be the point of an rk3566 in something like the Funnyplaying Pixel Pocket?

the rk3326 makes perfect sense for that device... they just need to make it cheaper

same for any other potential hardware clone, no need for an rk3566 with a Gameboy Color/Advance SP, Wonderswan, Neo Geo Pocket or Gamegear

heck I not even once played anything on the GKD Bubble that would even need the power of the rk3326

I just don't want a complete shit chipset that relies on some wonky stock OS instead of solid CFW

[fringe cedar]

Ok, so if I were to flash an SD with Unofficial OS and swap it with my JelOS one, but leave the game SD in... Would it just be that simple?

I'm willing to give it a try if it means I can push my RGB30 into more N64, Dreamcast and Saturn... That would pretty much eliminate my want/need for the Dream40 👀

[clever verge]

@lethal scroll is this Possible? I'm not sure about the SD card 2 part

[clever verge]

Dream 40 does DC & Saturn better 4 now. Saturn, is a Maybe improvement coming Soon™

[lilac wigeon]

I agree the rk3566 may be lost on the TikTok crowd, but for me it blows the rk3326 and H700's out of the water, because it lets me upscale PS1 and run the shaders I want.

[fiery panther]

It does on the Latin American market

People here as me all the time if my consoles connect to the tv

The first thing they ask

[long sapphire]

due to mid tier device war, the mid tier chipset may get cheaper and soon mid tier device may price like anbernic h700 series device prices.
before this mid tier chipset wars, mid tier chipset device k56,rg505 and x28 cost 120-140.
suddenly started by mangmi air x. suddenly mid tier device is like 55, 70 and 75 unbelievable.retro handheld 2025 is really fantastic.

[zealous jolt]

Shit I’d rather pay $60 for an h700/3566 than $60 for a sd662/g85/etc solely because of Linux support. I’m sure a solid percentage of the community feels the same way I do

What’s the point of getting a cheaper more powerful handheld, if you stuck on a crap operating system with shit tons of input latency?

[long sapphire]

rocknix is working on s662, soon there will be linux support with portmaster

[zealous jolt]

Okay, so that fixes one handheld. Now for all the other ones

[long sapphire]

there is gammaos already available for mangmi air x that strip the bloat for Android.

[zealous jolt]

Still has problems inherent to Android, such as crazy input delay

[long sapphire]

other handheld can start using s662 chipset or maybe s680 chipset also. rk3566 is history.

[long sapphire]

please readup about gammaos , it is equivalent of steamos. it bring 10 to 20 percent improvement by removing bloat services.

but u also got rocknix.

[zealous jolt]

Bloat does not contribute to input latency

[zealous jolt]

You don’t understand how hard it is to get affordable Qualcomm chips do you? Mangmi is the one budget company to do it, some people speculate because they have ties to retroid

[zealous jolt]

Heck you could install base AOSP with zero bloat and there would still be input latency, again because it’s Android

[long sapphire]

if s865 can have rocknix, s662 can also have rocknix also.

[zealous jolt]

Yes it can. But until regular handheld manufacturers can get Qualcomm chips for the price of mediatek, it doesn’t matter

[long sapphire]

s662 air x selling at 75 at early bird. it is really very good value handheld.

[tawny swan]

cant in near future

[long sapphire]

why?

[tawny swan]

bc they need help from qualcomm

to make it possible in near future

[long sapphire]

why qualcomm dont help? for s662 chipset.

[tawny swan]

i dont think they will care about potato soc

[long sapphire]

hopefully s662 got rocknix. why not

[tawny swan]

maybe ... it can yes

[long sapphire]

maybe s662 is older and also not great performer compare to g85 and g90t.

[fringe cedar]

So far I have found Dreamcast to be a lot better on 3566 than N64. I haven't actually tried Saturn yet, just assumed it was a no-go really.

However, I'm not surprised to see the G85 in the Dream40 is better, it really did seem like everything I was looking for in a handheld with one exception - it's Android.

That's why I'm interested in squeezing more performance out of my RGB30 if possible, maybe not with just 1GB of RAM at my disposal

I desperately hope Linux comes back stronger to this scene to be honest... The Dream40 seemingly put on hold has given me renewed stubborness to hold out

[long sapphire]

luna promise that if magicx one35 is doing well for sales figures. xu retro will release their xu dream 1. pray 🙏

[fiery panther]

Maybe I should make my decision once all the options for this range are available

[fringe cedar]

Seeya in 2031

MagicX may release the Dream50 on the condition that the 320p screen clamshell sells over 4 million units

[solemn pumice]

Personally, I want all Verticals with sticks to go extinct

The low price can’t save it, people would rather get a Brick/Hammer or even RG35XXPro

[fiery panther]

I have enough consoles and a PC for a while

Initially my idea was to leave the hobby on the Tone35 but idk what will my console be on the end

[steel herald]

Slightly modified, the button position is more like GBASP

[fringe cedar]

Same here but with the Dream1/Dream40/One40 whatever you wanna call it...

It might seem laughable to some but it's my idea of an end-game device

[grand ibex]

I don't think that's better, probably worse... The bigger issue is that face buttons and dpad are too close to each other. Especially for a small device. 35xxsp nailed the spacing I think

[steel herald]

I believe MagicX will announce One40 soon

[fiery panther]

I honestly feel relief that I wasn't forced to buy the Tone35 in day one
Limited release was stupid and I'm glad they changed their mind.

[sharp cloud]

isn't it better for small device? if they are further apart they might be too close to the edge for small device like this which will affect the grip/holding of the device

[fiery panther]

Now I can buy it whenever I want or buy something better if I see it

And maybe even with the opportunity of seeing more color shells

Instead of the bland 3 we have

[steel herald]

Is it an angle problem? Both are very close.

[grand ibex]

Is Flip 640 wider than 35xx? Otherwise why is there more empty space to the sides.

It looked like buttons were closer than in 35xx, but now that I look at, it's probably the same distance.

[steel herald]

3.5 inches 960x640 is definitely wider than 3.5 inches 640x480

[solemn pumice]

These button look super small

EDIT : maybe they‘re fine, xxsp had good sized buttons

[grand ibex]

Spacing dpad and face buttons apart is probably more appealing, but that's just my guess. Maybe I got used to 35/34xx look.

[steel herald]

The Flip 640 will be the best GBA replacement device, no doubt about it.

Equipped with a 4000 mAh battery, it can be used for 10 hours on a full charge

[jolly kettle]

Wonder what linux fw it'll come with..

[sharp cloud]

if you referring to the flip 640, i thought its android? or you referring to the potential rk3566 vertical mentioned above.

[bronze yew]

More like, the buttons look small as the shell has way more space on the sides

[sudden narwhal]

This one will use 3:2 screen like the One35 if I'm not mistaken? Would it be possible to reduce the bezel thickness slightly?

[bronze yew]

The device is simply too wide for a GBA SP, isn't it?

[steel herald]

The screen cable is on the side

[solemn pumice]

I mean the xxsp Buttons also looked super small but they turned out to be fine irl

[fringe cedar]

Personally, when it comes to clamshells, I always think it's actually the thickness that makes or breaks the design

[zealous jolt]

Oh boy… here we go again with the rotated displays

[long sapphire]

what are the various colour option u plan to have?

for the clamshell

[lethal scroll]

As long as all the system and bios folders are in a folder named roms the unit should see them with the uOS card

[bronze yew]

black, silver, metallic blue are mandatory

[bronze yew]

You guys definitely need to move the buttons around a bit to make it look more like the SP tho... and I'm not kidding when I say a mono speaker will do

I guess we can live with the bezel, even if it's technically wider than the original device

[fiery panther]

That's perfect for me

But, in diagonal yes

Similar to the RG34XX H

And the GBA micro clone from Anbernic

[tall olive]

Have you seen the one35?

[fiery panther]

Me? Yes

Won't buy it yet, waiting to review, possible issues and more

Then make my purchase

[tall olive]

Ah, makes sense

[fiery panther]

Got fooled twice

Won't happen again

[fringe cedar]

Thanks 🙏 perhaps I will try UnofficialOS...

[clever verge]

Cannot Reccomend it enough

[lethal scroll]

It's a jelos fork like rocknix, but there's a few differences between uOS and rocknix.. the device we support etc.. but for 3566,I still use a bsp kernel where rocknix is mainline.. but i hear 3566 mainline has battery drain because of that, and a few other reasons related to dual boot, uOS is bsp still

If u look under system settings information and tell me the kernel version, i can tell u if it's mainline or bsp.. if it's kernel 4, it's bsp.. if it's 6 it's mainline

[fringe cedar]

Can I message you?

[lethal scroll]

What's up?

[fringe cedar]

@lethal scroll just thought it might be better to not clog up this channel with my potentially stupid questions 😅 if you don't mind that is?

[grand ibex]

this would look a tiny bit better

[pine current]

yeah it just looks like its face is all scrunched in

[fiery panther]

But with the buttons inclined

Face buttons

[brisk gulch]

Yes, the xu20/brick screen deserves both a horizontal and a flip device

[fiery panther]

Yeah it is good for Android games as well in vertical format

Flappy birb

[bronze yew]

that would make this device instantly completely uninteresting to me, 3:2 screen or bust

[long sapphire]

yes i agreed, everyone are more excited over dream40 and dream50. seem like we can c this devices in our dreams base on xu luna statement.

[dry sierra]

can we please have a 3.5 inch 960x640p clamshell with no bezels? 🙏

it would make it the ultimate tiny gaming machine

[bronze yew]

where is the screen electronic supposed to be?

[sharp cloud]

All glass front might help to reduce the bezel, but doubt possible to that extent.

[bronze yew]

Luna literally pointed out that the screen junk is to the side, so ehh, not gonna happen

and making the device unnecessarily short will just make for horrid ergos, they should just stay as close to the SP measurements as possible, especially no extra thickness

[steel herald]

Very beautiful. This kind of technology needs to be manufactured by a company of Sony's level. A small company that sells it for $30 cannot manufacture such a device.

[dry sierra]

I mean.. miyoo kinda did it with the flip mini, there's only a tiny bezel on the bottom

[dry sierra]

if ergos are so important you can always just buy a grip for it no? or a lenght extention accessory

I don't think people buy small handhelds for ergos

but I think the way to go if allow optional ergos, that way customers have a choice

[steel herald]

The construction of a flip cover is not easy, so durability is the primary consideration. If it is easily damaged, the appearance will be useless.

[bronze yew]

just make it look as much as a GBA SP and we are good, no need for unnecessary shenanigans

[steel herald]

If the 7050 or 7300 is $90, is the G99/G90T redundant?

[dry sierra]

in that case a bigger screen would be more sutable to not have any wasted space

[sharp cloud]

That bigger screen will have its own electronics/cabling to account for ..

[bronze yew]

it would make Anbernics t820 redundant, let alone the G99/G90T

[sharp cloud]

Need to specify the timeframe of release

[bronze yew]

true enough, but honestly a 7300 handheld for $90 would fly off the shelves, not quite RP4pro/RP5 level, but basically full PS2 for below $100 would be deal of the year for most folks

[zealous jolt]

That’s pretty interesting looking, I don’t think the left one is possible at least concerning bezel size tho

Well at least not to the scale you have it, which may not be an accurate representation of what it would actually be

[steel herald]

G85 around $60

7050 around $90

2026 retro handheld game console theme
Affordable, complete, high quality

[zealous jolt]

Oh boy, now we’re swinging back to higher end XU stuff. Is their boss bipolar or something? Can we get them on some mood stabilizers

[bronze yew]

question is, is $90 even doable, because at that point 6gb RAM are a must IMO

[sharp cloud]

Odin base gets by on 4gb, same for rp4 (non pro) which will be basically what the 7050 will be.

[bronze yew]

fair, but do you really want to buy something that may crash due to insufficient RAM while you play? 6gb is what's necessary for PS2 and under and just because you may push a fair amount of games with less, it would still sour the experience

I mean maybe the 7050 can get by on 4gb RAM, it's on the same level as that one after all... but the 7300 has to be 6gb RAM

[sharp cloud]

I don't think people notice any issue with ps2/gc/Wii on the Odin base, issue that is not due to the chip performance itself.
Comparison against Odin lite was always talking dual thread (d900 advantage) vs 4 thread (sd845 advantage) performance, heat/battery life etc, not about lack of ram and crashing

[solemn pumice]

Where are the profit margins though

You need to make money

[dry sierra]

I think this is an ideal situation. But I think this can still work with some more realistic modifications

[bronze yew]

also honestly, what's even the price difference between a 7050 and 7300? can't believe we are talking about more than $10 per chip... just ditch the 7050 and do a $100 flat 7300 handheld

[dry sierra]

maybe we are gonna see this device have big bezels perhaps not because of technical limitations but rather because of financial constrains? Both the retroid flip 2 and ayn thor had quite impressive bezels, of course both of them are way out of the legue of what you would call budget

what I find to be interesting though is that the gba sp shell is basically able to fit the rp classic screen, yet noone tried doing that, I guess it's up to retroid

[steel herald]

Tomorrow I will go to MagicX and give their boss a handheld game console plan for 2026. I hope he can realize the plan and defeat his powerful opponents one by one.

XU does not have the conditions to participate in the handheld war and can only plan cheap equipment, but MagicX has a chance

[bronze yew]

I'm still down for rk3326 hardware clones, Gameboy Pocket, Wonderswan, Neo Geo Pocket

But yeah MagicX could swipe the landscape with a $100 7300 device and push Anbernic and Retroid out of the market

[steel herald]

PSP DC N64 G85 complete
PS2 GC Wii 3DS PSV SS D7300 complete

This is a perfect combination

[tawny swan]

complete meaning already ordered chips?

[steel herald]

Perfect operation

[solemn pumice]

completing the catalogue of the mentioned systems

in terms of playability

[long sapphire]

yes, will hope your console plan to help to shape the future of MagicX. u share with us your plan. hopefully 7300 or 7350 chip will be used as predict for next retro handheld for better ps2 gameplays thanks luna

[burnt current]

I need more MyMinis in my life

[tawny swan]

so u get final product, but still dont order socs

[solemn pumice]

Whatever, what do you want from her

Of course they don’t have the D7300, it’s all hypothetical

Like everything else in this channel

MagicX might have a D7300 Dev Kit/ Testing Device or will soon have one

[long sapphire]

it is Luna from XU retro. she is in the industry why u doubt her.
I believe she is telling the truth about the industry, the problem her company faced and what are their immediate plan.
i believe luna will stay true to her promise and give us retro device with d7300 at 90 dollar that can play better ps2 gc compare to g99. great 🙂 keep it up. luna

[burnt current]

Idk man

I'm with Jigg on this

[tawny swan]

99*

[solemn pumice]

I didn’t even doubt her, I just said she never mentioned actually getting their hands on some D7300 SoCs

[tawny swan]

but im more interest in 8400 for 166

[solemn pumice]

Keep in mind she’s using a translator.
You guys keep mis-interpreting her messages.

[sharp cloud]

If you think she "promise" anything, I think that's a big problem

There will be people who see your post and maybe spread around including reddit and demand to know why magicx "go back on their words" and cancel their $90 d7300 device later

[zealous jolt]

Luna has already stated XU will not make any handhelds that will be at that power range, they will only be making extreme budget stuff, ie the 3188 clamshell

[long sapphire]

xu luna is also a fun gal in this chat group.
i ask her about anbernic ds chipset. she told me A527 will be chosen. that chipset can help u make a fresh cup of hot coffee.
i told her that anbernic staff leak chats that it is T620. she refused to believe insist it can be only A527 for dual screen at below 100 dollar. we shall wait and c the chipset anbernic ds reveal whether xu luna telling the truth.

but magicX one35 with g85 but small screen of 3.5 inches but selling at 55 dollar is surprising a great deal.

[zealous jolt]

Luna sure talks a lot of shit for being from a company that’s only managed to get one device into physical existence

[steel herald]

As I said, I don't represent any company. These are my personal opinions. Like you, I speak out of my personal interest in retro equipment.

[solemn pumice]

She doesn’t even do that, it’s just whatever and David twisting her words.

It’s not like Axin posted something official

[steel herald]

It’s better not to take what I said as true, lest MagicX blame me

[solemn pumice]

Don’t tell David 🤫

[burnt current]

Imma ping Axin 😈

[zealous jolt]

Oh I know, part of me kinda enjoys your pettiness lol

[solemn pumice]

It’s too early, let him observe the One35 sales for another week

[zealous jolt]

I just think it’s kinda ironic

[steel herald]

XU representatives will not release any information in the community in the future. They will focus on AliExpress and Tik Tok.

[tawny swan]

fail tactic

[fringe cedar]

What the fuck is going on in here

[steel herald]

This is just my guess, not any inside information.

[long sapphire]

okay i apologize for that. i thought u are a insider of retro
industry knowing the in and out of all the other retro companies. thanks for your clarification.
honestly, u mention u plan for clamshell plan for using d7300 handheld is alright, whether it can be launch are determine by the market opportunity, your boss willing launch the device thinking it can be profitable. it is not within your area.

[fringe cedar]

ENOUGH

WHERE IS THE GOD DAMN DREAM40

[steel herald]

Chuimi is about to launch a new model, A523

[tawny swan]

bruh

[steel herald]

It should be Linux, and the price may be around $70. Do you think it will be popular?

[jolly kettle]

TRIMUI?

[jolly kettle]

If you want a cheap portable cooker that doubles as a linux handheld then yea

[steel herald]

I personally don't like Linux.

[long sapphire]

Chuimi can help explain what is the company? produce trimui smart pro??

[steel herald]

I'm not in a position to reveal the company name.

[solemn pumice]

Just say Tri instead of TrimUI or RG instead of Anbernic, people won’t know ;))

[steel herald]

Just understand it.

[tawny swan]

rofl price for that spec

[livid herald]

Depends on if they can get the thermal issues and ROM stuff stored out or not

[long sapphire]

yes. i agree with u. android is much better for the futures.
all the mid tier devices release
ayaneo pocket mini
mangmi air x
magicX zero35 all of them use android. am i right?

[solemn pumice]

She don’t know what rofl means ._.

[tawny swan]

i like when it on device at least Odin

(845)

[storm warren]

That company has exclusively launched bangers so far imo, so yes, probably

[bronze yew]

Nah, also the Brick kinda sucked

[steel herald]

I personally believe that none of the three companies, Mi, Mi, and Mi, have the conditions to enter the Android handheld game console market, and they don’t even have an entry ticket.

[long sapphire]

if anbernic ds revealed
to have T620 chips ( mid tier level chips)
3G/64G or 4G/64G.
anbernic ds has release a mega hit seller as it promise to be below 100 dollar got 2 screen and with t620 it can emulate entire psp/dreamcast/n64 and some 3ds/ps2 and gc.
2025 is an amazing year indeed

[vagrant iris]

g85 on Dream 40/50 and TOne35 is even stronger soc than T620, just saying

[plucky halo]

Any more info? is it the 4:3 TSP? Should be around the same performance of your favorite A527

[livid herald]

Isn't the A523 just the A527 without some stuff?

[plucky halo]

Probably lower binned chips underclocked

[long sapphire]

where now there are so many mid tier level handheld
g90t, t620, g85, s662
is it really very difficult for handheld to release A523/A527 as it got thermal issue and it is far below the mid tier competition. the mid tier device war may change the entire retro (no x86) handheld industry.

[livid herald]

True

[plucky halo]

Linux still has it's perks. But then again SD662 could get linux

[long sapphire]

seriously, i believe anbernic ds suppose to be using h700 chips price below 100.
however, after ayn thor vs konkr fit, pocket mini vs mangmi air x vs magicX one35.
anbernic cannot sit still.
they are forced to use a powerful chip.
in their suppose warehouse,
h700,t820,d8300.
i was hopping they use t820 for RGDS but to prevent cannabilize their recent t820 handhelds 406H release selling around 150-160. they are forced to use brand new chipset t620.
once price at below 100
RG DS is one amazing device for price to performance.
but their rg505 ( using t618) they may force to slash price.
i am still waiting for their release of the chipset for RGDS.

unless u are ultra budget like what luna wanted to design clamshell selling 30-35.
it is hard to use A133p, rk3556, rk3566 chip any more.

[livid herald]

This, basically. With the Rocknix devs trying to port to that, the Linux market may still have life

(Would be nice to see the new batch of G85 handhelds get Ubuntu Touch and/or postmarketOS, even if they have to use Halium to do so)

[long sapphire]

i agreed linux also important as someone mention input latency in android. linux got portmaster.
but do not know whether media chipset g85 and g90t can have rocknix. if s865 can have rocknix, it should easier for s662 to have rocknix.

[livid herald]

As I said, our best chance for G85 to get Linux is Ubuntu Touch

There's already two devices with that chip that officially support that OS (Volla Phone 22 and Redmi Note 9)

The G90T... erm, let's just say there were attempts at Ubuntu Touch and postmarketOS, but those got abandoned

[grand ibex]

Same as A527, just different pinout

[steel herald]

Developing and perfecting Linux is more difficult than updating the second generation of SoC

[tawny swan]

wait a minute

u planning add full linux support with mtk help??????

[burnt current]

I don't think so

[tawny swan]

if ... it will be game changer

[solemn pumice]

Luna, is planning anything

[tawny swan]

she know way more than u can thought 😉

[solemn pumice]

Just some friendly discussion

[solemn pumice]

she knows way more than you think*

of course she does, but that doesn’t mean it‘ll actually apply for XU or MagicX.
It’s all just speculation

[steel herald]

There is a problem with the translation again. The more you speak, the more mistakes you make.

[fringe cedar]

Yeah it's like their priorities change every couple of hours

[zealous jolt]

It should be noted that this is the state of Linux on the g85

[bronze yew]

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Fuck a Retroid Pocket Flip 1 clone ain't what I want

[long sapphire]

ha ha. this is dreamland for magicX ps2 for 100 dollar killing retroid ??!! 🙂

[tawny swan]

actually it will really kill them 😉

even it a weaker

but not x2, when price yes

[vagrant iris]

Dont worry, they will cancel it 5 days after announcing it anyway

[obsidian kraken]

Just from watching this chat, it's not competition that is hurting XU/MagicX. It's management/leadership. Or at least that's how it appears.

[pine current]

that and it also sounded like mtk backed out on them and said they had to sell more one35's first or they got no more chips.

which is what they call, "a big, dick move"

[pine current]

the comma was very important. and is there something funny about my vewy good fwiends name?

[long sapphire]

how your visit to magicX and showing your devices plan to magicX boss. hope they will listen to your plan cheers 🙂

[fringe cedar]

MagicX/XURetro product designers when the boss kicks the office door down for the 17th time today to switch priorities to another completely different device that will never see the light of day

[livid herald]

Given how many changes I keep seeing at my own workplace, I feel the engineers

As someone with autism and ADHD, I'd probably not last a single day working at MagicX or associated companies

[fiery panther]

Same

[leaden fog]

https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005009441030969.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2deu

Chuimi could be trimui yeah

[solemn pumice]

When is this gonna release

[tall olive]

That render looks comfy

Also scrolling down that a little bit and the rep mentions magicx having a Qualcomm platform in development which would be hype if still true

[earnest mountain]

Would be hype, but wasn’t that back when Luna was the rep? I’m not sure if much of what was said even just a month ago still applies

[pine current]

pretty sure all their stuff is canceled and they're only going to do low power devices - currently a clamshell. what would've been the dream reverts to magicX.

[tall olive]

that looks pretty clean

I really like the crystal blue you put in the other chat

[fiery panther]

TURQUOISE

Ok hear me out
Make sure mGBA runs full speed and I'm sold

And thanks for putting the buttons with A/B priority

[placid cosmos]

Why the buttons like that.....

[burnt current]

Cuz GBA, biatch

[fiery panther]

To prioritize GBA games

And GB family in general

As well NES, Master System and other 2 button consoles and handhelds

That have them in that position (row)

[solemn pumice]

I bet you didn’t ask that for the 34xx

[placid cosmos]

i bet i didnt

[sudden narwhal]

So, is this confirmed using 3:2 display?

[tall olive]

I believe it is the same display being used in the one35 and previously the ayaneo pocket micro

So 3:2 640p

3.5"

[bronze yew]

I can't get over the face buttons being so small

d-pad also pretty tiny, but oh well

[steel herald]

Just passed the company's approval, the direction keys and buttons are made of new molds, and the diameter is larger

[bronze yew]

also the SP face buttons weren't in a circle in the first place, why not replicate the design Nintendo gone for?

[placid cosmos]

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it is

[bronze yew]

nah, I meant if they orient them Gameboy like, why do so in a circle?

[placid cosmos]

oh u want a square?

[bronze yew]

kinda

[bronze yew]

that all aside, I know some here love transparent colors, but I want the metallic stuff they used for the SP

[burnt current]

Never happening unfortunately

Anbernic's your only real hope for colour schemes like that

Especially considering that Retroid will probably continue to make devices with glass fronts

[plucky halo]

Oooh dual xiaomi speakers

wait wtf 3188???

[zealous jolt]

Are the xiomi speakers the ones from the miyoo mini? If so they kinda trash ngl

[zealous jolt]

This lol. What a joke. It’s like we’re time traveling back to 2020

[plucky halo]

I'll get the sjgam instead

That one's 3126/3128 which has cfw on some devices much easier to probably adapt

[tawny swan]

@steel herald

[plucky halo]

They are but you can upgrade them with better ones 😁

[tawny swan]

comment, how that possible

[zealous jolt]

Oh yeaaa I forgot about those upgraded speaker mods, if I remember correctly I think the better ones come from a redmi phone?

Maybe

[zealous jolt]

What’s the unit price on that soc? If I had to guess it’s not cheap

[tawny swan]

well this board 200$ just

so self cost way less

[zealous jolt]

Oof yea lol

Majority of that is likely the soc. Radxa sells rock chip boards for like $50 lol

[plucky halo]

The xperia ones are better but the redmi is better than the ones miyoo had

[slim gale]

I did an Xperia one in mine and it’s a pretty significant difference

I like it a lot

[long sapphire]

hi luna,
where is the silver clamshell?

[steel herald]

The direction keys and buttons adopt XU20 structure, and the excellent button experience is rarely achieved in flip devices.

[bronze yew]

If we can do a metallic red this will be so much closer to being something I want

Still not happy with the ABXY, shouldn't be small buttons in a circle but rather bigger in a square-ish cutout

[long sapphire]

u must sell the clamshell around r36s price

[spark cradle]

is there no way to make the bezels smaller?

[spark cradle]

does this mean that this flip device will use the XU20 buttons

that would be great

[slim gale]

Supporting electronics around this screen need bezels to cover them, I think this was discussed earlier

[spark cradle]

no I'm aware of this, it's just that the Miyoo Flip manages to make the bezels pretty small

[slim gale]

Different screen, different electronics layout

Think the massive forehead on the 34xxsp, that wasn’t an aesthetic choice by the designer lol, something made them do it that way

If the screens were custom, sure

[zealous jolt]

looks like a wannabe 35sp tbh **with way bigger bezels, if its more than $20 or $25 theres no point in my honest and humble opinion

but at $25 or less i could see it being very popular like the r36s, assuming it gets good cfw support

[steel herald]

The Flip Phone 320 is positioned to compete with the R36, while the Flip Phone 640 is positioned to compete with the $50-60 flip devices.

[zealous jolt]

but it will still be the 3188 and not have bluetooth/wifi correct?

[fiery panther]

Cobalt blue please 🤞

Give us cobalt blue and transparent aquamarine and I'll buy 2

What a change of perspective huh
First it was seen as garbage and now it looks promising

[zealous jolt]

what changed that changed your view? the colors?

[jolly kettle]

Putting an RK3188 against the RG35/34XXSP is almost suicide

[bronze yew]

the screen is nicer and the price is cheaper... still not sold on the 3188 tho, like rk3326 all the way, we gotta ArkOS the shit out of it and are happy

[sharp cloud]

rk3326 isn't mgba capable though?

[long sapphire]

it will work, if they come with rom sets and sell as cheap as possible like parent buy for their children. need to be 20-30 dollar range.

luna mention cannot use rk3326 anymore for xu handheld device

[bronze yew]

well, I'm not expecting too much from an $25-35 device

[bronze yew]

they could use it, it's more about the competition being easily able to copy it

[sharp cloud]

rk3188 is fine if its kept sub 40 as mentioned previously, and of course dont take a year to release

[jolly kettle]

That is true

Especially as a holiday season device

[jolly kettle]

gpSP is more than mature enough for the majority of GBA games so long as you're using the latest version of the core sure there's still a couple edge cases (cough cough Sims 2 Pets) but yeah

My TrimUI Smart can run practically the whole GBA library so long as it works with gpSP without breaking a sweat

[zealous jolt]

shit even against the v90s this looks like doo doo

[sharp cloud]

it is a pass for me if mgba don't work

[sharp cloud]

its comparable to the A53 chips outside of 64 bit support and gpu

[bronze yew]

on what budget chipset does it even work? honestly haven't been paying too much attention as to what GBA core these devices use by default

[sharp cloud]

rk3566 is more than enough, with alot room for fast forwarding on my rg503, i might not have tested the hardest game though (what is the hardest to emulate gba games anyway?) .
I think somone mention here that h700 also can fast forward with mgba except for edge cases/games

the rk3188 should be comparable to h700 for that, if no throttling or other issue

[bronze yew]

fair enough then I guess, they are pretty set on that chipset anyway

my concern is more with CFW, as some janky stock OS ain't it on any Linux device

hope XU Retro at least spams ArkOS/Rocknix devs with some units

[sharp cloud]

probably android? there is that G button

[bronze yew]

nope, also they used the G button on the XU10 and XU Mini M as well, both rk3326 Linux devices

neither of those had good stock firmware btw

[fiery panther]

Colors and face buttons position focused on 8 bit era and Gameboy family

[bronze yew]

the XU10 was especially as...

[zealous jolt]

a solid amount of pokemon rom hacks either won't run on gpsp or run like crap as well, and that's the majority of what i play so if it can't run mgba its not even a contender in my book

[zealous jolt]

rk3326, h700, hell even the miyoo minis sigmastar piece of crap handles mgba okay for the most part

[bronze yew]

then I don't know what Zeal is complaining about

[zealous jolt]

i mean i'm with him, if this can't run mgba it sucks lol

(if that's what his stance was at least, tbh i can't really tell)

[zealous jolt]

is it confirmed to be linux? luna was sure bringing up the 3188 and android together a lot

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idk im doubtful. especially with their custom aurora launcher, why ditch it after putting so much work into it?

[sharp cloud]

yes, rk3326 is kind of on the edge of mgba, with little to no room for fast forwarding iirc, unless thats due to linux/cfw issue when anbernic first launch those rk3326 devices

[zealous jolt]

if its android its 100% dead in the water

[zealous jolt]

yea if thats the case its stupid. a copycat gba sp handheld that can't even run the goto gba emulator? lol

[bronze yew]

well, if it's a proper Android build I'm less worried about this

[zealous jolt]

but if the chip actually is about on par with the h700 it should be fine, my XX devices run mgba just fine, even with good fast forward speeds. theres only a few exceptions here and there, but not many

[long sapphire]

luna already mention it will be android for xu new retro handheld

[zealous jolt]

i haven't been the biggest fan of magicx/xu's android builds so far. lots of jank, cpu clock/governor issues, input wackiness, etc

[sharp cloud]

the cpu should be on par with h700 (other than lacking 64 bit support which i don't think matters for the stuff it can run), the ancient gpu is another thing but should not be used much for its use case anyway (and it at least has a gpu unlike the miyoo mini chip).
arm marketing for the a53 when it launch is "a9 performance but smaller"

[long sapphire]

it will be android
Software Aurora Launcher (Dawn Branch)
maybe android quite old already

[sharp cloud]

from some test, ipc seems slightly higher on the a9 as well, though that is just 1 software of course.

[solemn pumice]

Didn’t see your name and thought @tawny swan was posting this instead

[sharp cloud]

nah, if its him, everything is "Trash site" except his excel

[long sapphire]

Software Aurora Launcher (Dawn Branch)" is likely a reference to a specific version or fork of a custom Android launcher, but it's not a widely known official product; it may be a community-created project or a misunderstanding, possibly confusing it with the similarly named Aurora Store

android aurora as mention by xu luna

[tawny swan]

i dont post random things, or what i can or i think i can understand 😄 definitely not my style

[rare junco]

Dawn is the name of MagicX's custom Android launcher. Aurora is a fork of that. That's all.

[tawny swan]

still dont spot nubia gpu driver ...

tired

[zealous jolt]

is that ai?

[zealous jolt]

yep its a fork of dawn specific to XU devices. In the about page of the Aurora app said how they planned on eventually making it it's own thing. i don't think they would throw that completely out the window, but i guess its not out of the question for XU lol

[steel herald]

The sales volume of flip phone 640+320 will definitely be more than the total sales volume of G90T+G85+662

[solemn pumice]

Damn even David doubts it

[bronze yew]

not if MagicX starts churning out G85 devices like Anbernic did with the rgXX line

[jolly kettle]

A9 is about equivalent to A53 so on paper the majority of mGBA should run on a 1.6ghz A9 quadcore

[steel herald]

There is no need to worry about the lack of sales for a flip phone at this price, not to mention the 640 GBA-specific screen.

[jolly kettle]

Also check the original RG35XX from 2022

[tawny swan]

who knows

@steel herald did u see that?

[solemn pumice]

No WiFi and people get the miyoo flip instead ._.

[solemn pumice]

Im starting to get curious how your camera roll looks like

[frigid condor]

i thought it is?

i mean, even the miyoo mini can run mgba fine no?

[frigid condor]

does the 100,000 rmb bonus still apply to these devices?

[sharp cloud]

this is from the amberelec site, i think there just isn't alot headroom for fast forward on the harder to run stuff, and some edge cases can't even run full speed

[fringe cedar]

4 Handhelds in 3 years doesn't bode well for the churn

[bronze yew]

yeah, their refusal to just drop the One40 and One50 right now is insane

[fringe cedar]

Yeah it almost feels like a troll.

I imagine it's got something to do with not cannibalising some of the One35's sales, but if they hadn't taken so long to get it to market then they wouldn't have this weird clash of interests going on...

[solemn pumice]

But then again, that’s exactly what magicx wants to release themselves

[bronze yew]

I mean the clamshell thingy was planned for a while too, but it's kind out of left field now and seems to be back on their mind at the worst possible time, given all the other two screen clamshells right now

[solemn pumice]

I guess it doesn’t matter since the flip will win the poll

[bronze yew]

also doing a 1280x720 5" clam before releasing the 1280x720 5" candybar feels weird

because they can't reasonably make this much more expensive than the One 35

[solemn pumice]

That‘s like the least weird feeling thing they’ve done or will do

[bronze yew]

they have all these molds and instead of mass producing handhelds they are like "well, we do something else now"

[fringe cedar]

I seem to be in the minority but I don't give a flying fuck about clamshell handhelds and don't understand the obsession with them.

I know it all stems from GBA SP nostalgia bait but I don't understand why you wouldn't just opt for the easy to make, simple, classic Horizontal that you literally have ready to produce

[slim gale]

It’s an obsession with bringing the best thing to market at any cost, while not considering that just bringing something to market is probably what they need at this point

[bronze yew]

honestly the clamshell would have been nice a year ago, but now... between the Flip 2, THOR and RG DS... it's too late to the market

[slim gale]

Yeah the flip was what we all wanted a year ago, because there weren’t many options a year ago

[fringe cedar]

If they are so risk-adverse right now then just go for the safe bet rather than try enter into the single-screen flip market that has been and gone a year ago

[bronze yew]

like it will basically be a better Retroid Pocket Flip 1, but who needs that now that we have so many other devices

[fringe cedar]

The Dream40's USP is the price to performance

It doesn't need anything else

[slim gale]

It’s mostly mismanagement in my opinion. They think they need to stand out, but they could and should have stood out by producing something nice at a good price

[fringe cedar]

Literally

[slim gale]

Not constantly opinion polling and pivoting every 3 months

[fringe cedar]

3 months is generous - I've seen them pivot every 3 days or even hours over the last few weeks

[slim gale]

Like opinion poll once, release those devices, get feedback, and go again

[bronze yew]

I mean, they definitely could still release it, as having more form factors to choose from ain't a bad thing and all, just like with Anbernics rgXX line... but it's certainly the wrong order of things to put out...

One40 and One50 would be easier, cheaper and more mass appealing IMO

[slim gale]

Look at us backseat managing

We should all go into manufacturing together, we’d do it right

[bronze yew]

well, at least there is no potential hinge-gate with the One40 and One50

[fringe cedar]

The big appeal of the 40 & 50, at least to me, is that it's just a clean, simple and cheap device that can (should be able to) run a lot of stuff.

That's literally all I want.

No hinges/sliding crap, no weird button layout, no ergo-tumours, no oddball screen. It's pure.

And it's $66

[bronze yew]

probably $55/65 now

at least I see no reason why they should ask a higher EB for those

[fringe cedar]

You know who I genuinely feel wouldn't fuck this up and fumble an easy bag?

PowKiddy

They know the enduring appeal of cheap, simple and cheerful. If they had access to the G85 they would have already done it by now. I actually miss them

[bronze yew]

Powkiddy is gone, but yeah, they knew how to do a nice candybar

[fringe cedar]

I'd like to think they aren't completely gone and will be back at some point...

[bronze yew]

they don't have the know-how nor resources to compete in this landscape... also they were heavily focused on domestic/US market

like grabbing a Powkiddy here in Germany is in some cases more expensive than an Anbernic on sale

[fiery panther]

If the new cheap SP console is going to have Android
Does that mean it will be able to run MyBoy? My partner is interested in the console and they like MyBoy as their main GBA emulator, just because of tradition

[bronze yew]

I mean... probably depends on the Android version, but if you find an apk to sideload, probably

[dreamy lark]

i feel a two buttons sp would be a slam dunk priced like the r36

[fringe cedar]

Crazy. In the UK they are still competitively priced 🤷‍♂️

I keep being tempted to grab another RGB30 as a parts machine just to future-proof myself...

[solemn pumice]

Didn’t someone mention powkiddy being related to trimui? And I mean they still live on

[fringe cedar]

PowKiddy are partnered with TrimUI in some respect

[bronze yew]

more like TrimUI stuff just is sold everywhere

[solemn pumice]

Like XU and MagicX

[fringe cedar]

TrimUI are milking that Brick for all it's worth for sure

[fiery panther]

MagicX already has the apk

I send them it

I think

[fringe cedar]

The only reason I am here at all in the RH Discord is because I was on the hunt for RGB10Max4 information

[bronze yew]

they literally have nothing else and as nice as the smart pro was at the time, I don't think they have much to compete on in the current market either

[fringe cedar]

Totally agree lol

Once the Brick crumbles I think TrimUI are on thin ice personally.

I resisted buying one many times because of the thermal issues and mixed feedback about the buttons.

[bronze yew]

I have a Brick and hated it so much that I threw it right into the reject box

[fringe cedar]

Like, yeah it's handsome as fuck, especially that grey metal one.

But if the buttons feel crap and it gets hot just by playing PS1... Gonna keep ignoring it.

[frigid condor]

I think Powkiddy is both a manufacturer and a distributor like Ampown is

They used to sell genericized MagicX products under the Powkiddy name

[frigid condor]

for how premium their products are, i don't know why they've exclusively stuck to allwinner chips for their devices

[spark cradle]

there's actually one that can only run on gpsp but not mgba

[zealous jolt]

for real? which one is it?

[spark cradle]

Crystal Advance Redux

[steel herald]

Sales of the three new budget Android handhelds are extremely poor. Finally, let's take a look at the sales of the upcoming RG Dual Screen.

[long sapphire]

luna , if u develop xu dual screen. it will be great.

[steel herald]

A price war has begun, but sales are still dismal. The tragedy of the retro handheld market

[fiery panther]

What consoles you mean

[tall olive]

Probably the ayaneo the one35 and the mangmi

[fiery panther]

Didn't they just said that the One35 sold enough to make more consoles like that

[spark cradle]

even the XU20?

[spark cradle]

Ayaneo sold over 12000 preorders for the Pocket Air Mini...

[drowsy bison]

That was going to be my guess, alongside maybe the two recent MagicX devices

[spark cradle]

shame, I think it's a great little device

would've bought it if it had enough power for melon and had a bigger screen, but I think this is the entry-level device I'd recommend to any newcomer

[drowsy bison]

Funny, I just recommended it in the what do I buy channel, and someone said "what's a XU20"

It's probably my favorite device at that price right now too

[steel herald]

京东可以做假销量，做10万台销量都可以

[drowsy bison]

Fair

[spark cradle]

你哋將貨品上京東畀我幫吓貴公司銷量

網站十九美元運費離曬大譜

[steel herald]

The combined annual sales of G90T and G85 662 are less than the sales of R36 in the first week after its launch. These figures are too scary.

[frigid condor]

yeah but the r36s was literally cheaper than lunch where I live

[sinful mortar]

id take a good lunch

[frigid condor]

Fucking McDonalds charges you $15 for a regular ass meal now

[steel herald]

复古掌机市场已经饱和基本都崩塌了，现在3款设备各出大招，都没利润去销售，后面很难发展

[frigid condor]

Is that why AyaNeo is actually trying to compete now?

[spark cradle]

但你們還會出產品吧，在大陸常規平台銷售不見有壞處，XU20 有國人想買但買不到

[sinful mortar]

got tried of not selling more than 1000 in preorders

[spark cradle]

如果貴公司想執笠就當我沒說

[drowsy bison]

Companies need to acclimate to the new market instead of trying to make a foundation on quicksand, over saturating a saturated market isn't going to help things

[steel herald]

没做国内市场

[frigid condor]

no domestic market
press x to doubt

[spark cradle]

那做吧，或最少想辦法將國內運輸費用減低

我住在在貴公司總部附近卻要給十九美元運費很影響消費意欲

[frigid condor]

please let akari go to your offices and buy your products in person

pack in a free office tour, we call it a free pack-in bonus in the west

[steel herald]

The total sales of the three pre-sale models did not reach the sales volume that MagicX wanted. From now on, I will only focus on making the flip phone 640/320 a success. I can no longer make plans or suggestions for other things.

[spark cradle]

no objections here, what I'm saying is to make the flip 640 affordable to the local market

if you guys haven't entered it I highly recommend you guys to do so

[frigid condor]

Not even the Zero 40?

[spark cradle]

there are plenty of Chinese people out there who won't mind splashing 300-400 RMB for a nice little flip device

or less, I'm not up to date with your prices

but the shipping fees are 100% a dealbreaker as it stands

[sharp cloud]

Which three?

[frigid condor]

We can assume the three A133P devices they released

[long sapphire]

this is really bad for the retro handheld market. i think retro handheld reach saturation point.

[sharp cloud]

More confused about the "presale" part in the statement, since only the one35 is in presale, unless she is referring to mangmi air x and pocket air mini as well together with one35.

[frigid condor]

I think she’s talking about devices that went on sale this year

[fringe cedar]

Sounds like it's over then... What a waste of time

[drowsy bison]

It's not over, we need to be saved from the crap Anbernic keeps shoveling us and the clone wars going on in the ultra budget tier

[long sapphire]

remember it is call xu dream1. it got it reason 🙂

[steel herald]

G90T G85 662 This is still not clear, don’t smart Westerners understand it?

[devout thorn]

one35 preorders being low makes sense, no real images and no review units out there

[fringe cedar]

This whole thing seems pretty over to me...

PowKiddy are already all but gone 💔

TrimUI will be dead once people stop buying the Brick.

Everything we have learned about MagicX/XU Retro in the last few weeks sounds like they are on their knees and afraid to make decisions/products.

Retroid and Anbernic are going to struggle selling their usual high-end now that the expectation for low-end is so high.

Once the dual screen phase is over it feels like there's nowhere left to go.

Dream40 felt refreshing because it was just so simple. Like a back to basics handheld. But with each day it sounds like we are less likely to ever see it.

And despite my enthusiasm for it, I think maybe Luna is right - I am in the minority.

[steel herald]

No, you guys didn't listen.

I won't hate anything other than the flip 640/320 anymore

[fringe cedar]

Hey, I am more than happy to be wrong - but much of the information we are hearing (including from yourself) sounds pretty bleak for the future of the emulation handheld market 🤷‍♂️

[fringe cedar]

Big red flag in my opinion...

[devout thorn]

honestly even if this is good, i'm not sure it will sell well. miyoo already has their tiny one coming out and anbernics sp line covers a bigger version

their products will be quicker to market and their brands are more recognized

[steel herald]

Isn't AYA a brand? The G90T sold only about 1,300 units on the first day at a low price, and the Z40, also a MagicX, sold 2,000 units on the first day.

Now the device is only targeted at retro old players, this device will definitely not have a large sales volume

[fringe cedar]

At the end of the day, we are just consumers here. We don't know what you know.

I'm sure your job is hard and the market is very difficult right now.

It's just disappointing for me on a personal level because I was excited for a product I'm now unsure will ever come to market.

But I am just 1 person / 1 sale 🤷‍♂️

[placid cosmos]

the 50-100 "up to ps1/n64" bracket is just too saturated to really be viable for anything but a perfect device now

i can only say the things i like the best in order of my importance
retroid/ayn dpad
miyoo a30 face buttons
cubexx shoulders
big battery like 5000mah
hall effect sticks
inline digital shoulders/triggers
a screen thats 3-4 inches
a proper control inset
thick devices are more comfortable to hold for a long time

[long sapphire]

hi luna,
in this chat group, people want a mid tier device at budget price.
when u promise that with xu dream1, d7300 chipset everyone is so excited.
but u talk about clamshell for mass market but low power handheld like r36s. people in this chat group are quite disappointed.

[tawny swan]

I hate anything weaker than D900 actually (PS2 era ye)

[steel herald]

I have tried my best. The market is not good. I can't do anything.

[tawny swan]

so anything good in power delayed?

[fringe cedar]

You don't need to feel bad! It is what it is

[steel herald]

Currently, the three budget Android handhelds are all popular but have poor sales. I believe that the new ones coming out next month will definitely be cannon fodder.

[bronze yew]

Mangmi Air X - 16:9, weaker than the competition, with shipping beyond the impulse buy territory for something like this as most people already have a similar device

Ayaneo Pocket Air Mini - launching it on IGG was a bad choice due to the changes made to the platform, there is reluctance due to shipping cost not being clear upfront and it isn't that much cheaper at the end of the day than the rg476h

MagicX One 35 - no real pictures, no review units and therefore no awareness that this device even exists among 90% of the potential market, sending units out to Youtubers so they have a review ready while it's still on EB pricing is important
Also the shipping price increase to $19 is quite a bummer and scares off some folks who get drawn in by the low upfront price of $55.

I don't know about the domestic market, but as I see it here, none of them handled the launch of their new device in the west in a way that is good for sales

[fringe cedar]

The IGG launch of the Air Mini is extremely off-putting to me so I definitely agree there. Gives me sketchy vibes for some reason...

[sharp cloud]

Looking forward to the flip 640, but that is only if it releases before someone else release a larger 3:2 budget device with the ktr1 's screen or other size.

[solemn pumice]

So when is Axin gonna post something here again

[bronze yew]

same day we hear from Sean and Breeze again

[sharp cloud]

think they get scared of the reactions here, including the magicx guys.
And I think quite a number here (not me) don't want to hear anything from them until the products are ready to order/ship, so maybe they are listening

[bronze yew]

understandable, given how they have been blue balling us with devices we wanted to buy just to cancel them

not to forget the one that should just be released

that one also would have been nice, but oh well

[sharp cloud]

I prefer the two58, the screen that is, not the design

[bronze yew]

you mean the one that looks like a tablet slapped between a mobile controller?

[fringe cedar]

It's not that I only want to hear about a device once it's ready to ship. It's more that I don't want to be hyped about and sold on a device, to the point where I am encouraged to spread awareness about it only to find that it is never going to release.

How is that good for anyone

You are alienating the people who you are trying to sell to and cheapening your brand power

[sharp cloud]

Yea, quite low resolution screen but just nice 2x for 3ds, and pretty big in tate mode as well.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1351917232535507014/1409909566694621294/0841c82816d0f9a4dd19ed1c869bfecb.png?ex=68f44edb&is=68f2fd5b&hm=7494cbdebbc8625473de271e83528452d78ad82b81149314edc921b83ba771b3&

[bronze yew]

I mean, I'm glad they listened about the screen size, because the earlier one was just pointless with a 4.5" vertical screen... but the design took a massive hit

not that it will ever be real anyway

[vagrant iris]

https://tenor.com/view/gene-gene-endrody-tommy-tommy-wiseau-the-room-gif-24505465

https://tenor.com/view/tommy-wiseau-the-room-everybody-betray-me-betrayal-fed-up-gif-19558419

[zealous jolt]

How do you know what other companies sales are?

[zealous jolt]

No other company seems worried, maybe just release a handheld people want and you’ll be okay

Like your negativity literally makes no sense, this is the most advancement the rh community has seen in years. Assuming these new budget mid tier handhelds are good, everybody and their mom will want one. How exactly is that bad for the community or handheld companies? I could see it being bad for XU, sure. Because who in their right mind would get a crap 3188 handheld

When way better options exist, for the same price or $5 more

But peace out yall, this channel is aids between Luna’s attitude and XU’s apparent lack of ability to stay focused on one thing for more than 6 hours

[long sapphire]

i believe xu retro eventually give up on xu dream 1 because of financial reason.
first to start one especially mid tier chipset. your chipset is already more expensive than a133p, rk3326. g85 or s662 maybe cost 15-20 dollar per chip. and mid tier device result in the profit margin is razer thin and xu retro could not have that initial captial to start xu dream1.
magicX one35. no youtuber even show any performance of the handheld yet they already start pre-order , they lower their captial cost by doing that.
yes, retro handheld companies facing tough competition. from chat group, someone mention powkiddy is facing some problems. u c they did not release any product for a while.
u must understand from retro company point of view.

[solemn pumice]

Didn’t they already give up on it

Which is why MagicX held a poll for producing it instead ( One40 )

Luna said so, but Axin didn’t confirm

[fringe cedar]

Yeah but the poll was an overwhelming majority for it to be a clamshell device 🙄

[solemn pumice]

Yeah that means no Dream1/ One40 at all

For the foreseeable future

[long sapphire]

luna mention if one35 sale figures are good, one40 will start. but base on anbernic ds demo able to show 3ds gameplay for under 100 so likely anbernic ds use t620,t618. now anbernic ds is the 4th contestant of the mid tier device war.

[fringe cedar]

Everyone has hinge phobia but everyone is pushing for everything to be a clamshell

I honestly don't get it

[solemn pumice]

I need Axin to mention something instead of ._.

[fringe cedar]

Axin ain't playing in this chat

You can forget it lol

[long sapphire]

luna mentioned Axin will not release about xu retro plan. luna is being very nice to chat with us and tell us some of her plan and also some of her speculation.
she said that the mid tier war result in everyone losing monies. that is her analysis of the situation.

[fringe cedar]

Tbh @zealous jolt is right. This chat has just become surplus to requirements now really

All of the devices we wanted from XU have been either shelved or passed on to MagicX to produce whenever they see fit, if at all...

I'm not holding my breath

If you are interested in Luna's budget clamshell then fair enough, I hope it succeeds for her and anyone interested but it is clearly aimed at a different demographic to us lot...

[slim gale]

I think the general economic situation, along with the high number of devices just make it difficult to operate at a profit. I know I personally am tighter on money than I was last year

I haven’t picked up a one35 yet even though I have been waiting for it for a year, because I need to save some money or sell one of my other devices for it first

Tariff uncertainty also impacts people wanting to make purchases, and high shipping costs are a big deterrent

Tbh if it had released at $85 free shipping it would have probably sold better than $65 with $20 shipping

Because mental gymnastics

People also have preferred places to buy these things, if you list on aliexpress people can take advantage of sales and coupons

Or Amazon with their return policy

The internet is basically the same 10 websites now and if you aren’t on one of them it’s hard to have someone casually find your product

[fringe cedar]

Disappointing to see Trump Tariffs having such a negative impact worldwide...

[bronze yew]

while I agree with that, I say low prices with shit expensive shipping is ultimately to our benefit

they could list the cheaper model on Ali for $80 shipped and maybe that generates more sales then

[slim gale]

The more of a comment on how they display the price, I agree that the low cost of the device is to our benefit, but when you go to check out and you get 33% more cost in your cart than you saw on the product page that’s a bit of a turn off

Even if the result is the same, I’d rather know up front, it feels like a better buying experience

[pine current]

That's the reality of living in a globalized economy. It can't just be wished away with no forethought.

[bronze yew]

I agree, that's why I only mention it at the shipped price in #🤷│what-do-i-buy

[fringe cedar]

Oh yeah totally. I don't really want to get into politics - I'm from the UK 🤣

The world has a lot going on right now...

[pine current]

It's less politics and more "global economic reality" lol

https://tenor.com/view/trailer-park-boys-the-way-she-goes-oh-well-gif-14173918

[left niche]

Tbh that's closely tied together

[fringe cedar]

Yeah you kinda can't have one without the other 😅

[bronze yew]

you can't complain

[fringe cedar]

I think we've both got our share mate

[bronze yew]

as long as I don't insult politicians on Twitter my door won't be kicked in tho

[fringe cedar]

You might get conscripted though

[bronze yew]

Russia has to invade Poland if they want to do halfsies with us again, Ukraine is too far away

[static aurora]

Knulli support dropped for rk3126, and rk3128 is not supported at all, and overall sjgam sucks - especially after they scammed buyers with soc on m27

[random field]

👎 👎 for sjgam indeed

[frigid condor]

they lied about rk3568?

[static aurora]

Yeah

[frigid condor]

what is it really?

[random field]

rk3188

and with only 512MB iirc instead of the 1GB as written on their site

[frigid condor]

bruh

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-gets-flung-and-explodes-orange-cat-funny-cat-meme-explodes-gif-10706110874965244466

gotta wonder if the company who scammed magicx was literally sjgam

[random field]

and as a typical sjgam dick move, they really like to lock and butcher their software

[frigid condor]

classic sjgam bullshit

[random field]

so for the M27 it seems that they really tried hard to disable any chance for adb access

removing the settings.apk was not enough...
they also had to remove any adb support from the kernel as well heh heh

[frigid condor]

they removed the fucking settings app?

[random field]

yes heh

[frigid condor]

jesus christ sjgam

[steel herald]

If the One series plans to do a universe, do you think it will be a big hit?

[fiery panther]

What does that mean

[radiant lantern]

Like the big bang or divine creation?

[long sapphire]

of course 🙂

[rare junco]

Hold on now, let's just cater to our fellow Earthlings first, ok?

[fiery panther]

I love how funky is the Chinese to English translator

[sharp cloud]

I guessing she referring to what anbernic does, asking whether spamming the g85 in all form factors/size is a good approach?

[fringe cedar]

My thoughts too. I hope so tbh

[fringe cedar]

They have to act fast though...

[bronze yew]

Yeah, one device per month, no stupid delays

[rare junco]

G85 in Zero28 form factor 👍

Or make a gimmick-less One35, I guess.

[fringe cedar]

So... The Dream40 pretty much lol

[rare junco]

Yeah, just make it smaller.

[fringe cedar]

Nah. I want the bigger screen

[rare junco]

Then keep the Dream40 and make a gimmick-less One35.

[fringe cedar]

But what benefit would that provide?

You mean make the One35 exactly the same but no TATE/Vertical mode? Why?

Sounds like guaranteed e-waste to me...

[rare junco]

I don't need tate mode. I just like small devices.

And better shoulder buttons than the One35. The One35's shoulders seem to be compromised by Tate mode.

The Dream40/50 is ok, but One35/Zero28 size is even better.