Retroid Dual Screen Add-on

[quaint hornet]

Hence why “other devices” makes no sense

[old bluff]

They're really good with order modifications, just reply to your order confirmation email saying you want to switch

[quaint hornet]

Ah okay cool! Thanks man. I’ve sent an email

[quaint hornet]

How did you know this? From their descriptions they make it pretty clear in caps that it only works with Retroid devices lmao

[old bluff]

This is the Retroid clip with a device that's 89.4mm tall, the top end of it seems to be ~90mm so yours should be fine

[quaint hornet]

I see. The YouTubers didn’t cover the max open height which is surprising, seems like an obvious thing people would be asking about

[feral silo]

Russ said he'd be doing a more in-depth video about it when his separately-ordered second clip comes in.

[old bluff]

my thoughts as well, should be pretty easy to say 'get this one if your device is xx-xx mm, get the other one if it's xx-xx mm', retroid themselves should have had this info up months ago when preorders started. even if it fits there can still be issues tho, the volume down button odin 2 mini gets pressed with the clip on, so we still need the reviewers to tell us about stuff like that

[unkempt sage]

Lol

[unkempt sage]

Can test more if anyone wants specific games

[quaint hornet]

The latency is real heh

[unkempt sage]

wasnt this shownat 50% speed?

[broken turret]

yes it was, I honestly don't think you will notice it too much with the naked eye

[unkempt sage]

i dont notice it in the video testabove 😄 (and my screen has 70ms aditional vs 50 of rds)

[broken turret]

I would look up the exact measurements, the rg477m at 89mm barely fit in the Retroid one... so the other devices one MAY be the better option

[broken turret]

yeah, I mean ideally there would be no additional delay, but 50ms should be tolerable in most situations

[unkempt sage]

will try yoshi islands ds too after work ... iirc that one switches between the screens a lot too

but imo soni is the one that do the most from DS library

[merry knot]

It was shown first in normal speed and then in 50%, but it's noticeable either way really

Whether or not it's a deal breaker though idk

Probably less noticeable when actually playing 3ds and ds

[unkempt sage]

i could test some speific games with my screen if you want

[unkempt sage]

tbh i feel all this thing did was that it thursted lots of folks who have no idea what any of it means into panic 😄

and saved few supersensitive people on input lag , but who somehow never noticed anyrhing wierd on odin 2 who has comparable one

[old bluff]

[broken turret]

yeah no, stop watch ain't working for that obviously

[inner lance]

Haven’t they done latency tests themselves during R&D?

Why do they need YouTubers to find out the problems and force themselves to find solutions?

[broken turret]

hope this doesn't introduce any other weird issues with the screen tho

[inner lance]

I don’t understand the tech behind. Isn’t most built in screens are also from mobile phone screens with portrait mode as default?

How is the latency issue fixed for those screens?

[broken turret]

magic

[inner lance]

Especially for the DMG/Mini screen which are recycled from LG Wing

Or is the issue here more obvious due to the direct comparison of two screens

[broken turret]

or maybe it's an OTA only for Retroid devices that sends a fitting image, dunno

[inner lance]

As opposed to latency of inputs which is slightly harder to perceive

What about increasing latency of the build in screen to match the external display

Maybe that’s what the talented engineers in Retroid came up with

[broken turret]

that would be a vile move

[inner lance]

If you can’t reduce the latency of the addon, INCREASE the latency of the build in screen

What matters is the synchronization

[unkempt sage]

yes

[unkempt sage]

noobody gave a fuck until now

with exception of few people saying "odin 2 panel is weird"

[old bluff]

same with people attacking russ over the 477m panel timings being off, no one cared with the odin lite, no reviewers noticed it, people who did got called crazy & it was never fixed, smdh

they started freaking out after gamma had already fixed it too, people are just looking for outrage these days

[inner lance]

Honestly it’s hard to do business in this hobby

Any comment can drive people complaining, contacting support and threatening to cancel orders

[unkempt sage]

i feel like people are so quick to jump on outrage nowadays compared to earlier

like i just read through the reddit post around the latency issue

most of people dont even understand what lantency means there .. but are ultra angry about it

[old bluff]

reddit in a nutshell lmao

problem is it's leeching into here

[paper mural]

I still can't wait for mine lol it's gonna be fun to mess with either way

[unkempt sage]

• there are the "i bought the aya device" people trolling for fun

[old bluff]

same, i was still psyched before they fixed it, this is just icing

[unkempt sage]

i have been testing aroudn with my screen yesterday .... and am otally excited for both screen to be oled 😄

the discolour annyoed the hell out of me with my lcd #🐈│retro-game-corps message

[paper mural]

I am pairing mine with the o2 portal

Gonna be sick

Def got a line up of some 3ds games to play ready to go too

[old bluff]

gonna mod the clip a bit to use with my 477m mostly, rp mini until video out gets fixed on it tho

[quaint hornet]

Nice lol

Thank gosh for reviewers

[plush shard]

…And turns out the latency that was there wasn’t even needed in the first place, so they could get it down to the same 1frame that the IPS kits have, so nevermind they can fix it requiring multiple frames.

[plush shard]

And thank god they apparently went overboard with the buffer required.

[tired dock]

They mentioned ota update required, was the latency observed on other devices, including x86 ones?
If yes, how it's going to be fixed/improved on other devices.

[unkempt sage]

OTA is for device

screen iself will require FW update

which will be preinstalled for anyone who isnt shipped yet

and those that are will get special flashing/debug cable to flash the fw to the screen

[tired dock]

Yup, that's why I'm asking how it will be improved/fixed for non-retroid devices, unless it's not an issue there in the first place.

[unkempt sage]

iirc they also promised some "multitasking apk"

[quaint hornet]

The issue is the display itself probably, not the host

[unkempt sage]

yes thats why the fw needs to be update to the screen itself

[broken turret]

that too, but we probably came to expect better quality from China as well, the days were their stuff was barely functional junk are years in the past after all

[long ibex]

I already cancelled. Between the Ayaneo DS and Ayn’s Thor I’m going with one of those options.

[unkempt sage]

for now i am keeping my RDA and flip 1s 8840u 😄 .... but i migth get sucked into Thor too down the line

https://tenor.com/view/hoarder-trash-omg-pile-disorganized-gif-12241047753156107947

[paper mural]

ima keep my screen

and probably get the thor haha

[grim hornet]

Thor looks too good to pass up lol

I mean we'll have to see specs but at a first glance I think I'll have to keep the hoarder vibe going

[paper mural]

i need to see specs and pricing

but its def super interesting

[spice nymph]

I'm good with this at this junction, until we get to specs that allow for dipping into the PS3 and beyond

I have a major backlog of ds/3ds titles to dig into until then

[unkempt sage]

Yeah but might eed them to take some time with it so I can at least rebuild my yolo funds

[spice nymph]

That's the entire reason I wait a bit before upgrading

Went from 2s to 5, next jump will probably be similar in time frame

Whole lot of games to enjoy between each one xD

[unkempt sage]

Yeah I went from 3+ to 5 and from rg351 to mini

[quaint hornet]

Thor release is a fair way off right?

[unkempt sage]

They will probably a ly slowdip twh info in coming days alongside odin 3

[dense cradle]

At this point I'm just gonna wait and see how well the RDS will work on Not-Retroid handhelds.

[quaint hornet]

I’ll let you know once I get mine lol

[dense cradle]

Like, requiring on update for the RP5/Mini for less latency(?) with the screen doesn't fill me with confidence lol.

Though I have a friend with an RP5, that is planning on getting the screen, so I could always borrow it during a lunch break to test with my Odin 2 Mini and see if it's enough latency for me to notice.

[quaint hornet]

IMO the host device should technically have nothing to do with latency

[plush shard]

Yup, it’s specifically the physical “dummy” screen driver.

Since that buffer is pretty much the main way on how they fix any of the issues that crop up from translating landscape to portrait without having any built in firmware that can handle switching between outputting either one seamlessly.

Thank god they don’t actually need as much of a buffer as what they were initially using.

[spice nymph]

Have they released any further info for when to expect shipments to start? Or are we just paddling in the water for now

[old bluff]

some went out today, the rest will start again in 3 days

[spice nymph]

Ah, well, at least this one is reasonable

[unkempt sage]

youa re misunderstanding this

its basically OTA that will bring multitasking app with it

for less latency .... they its update of firmware to the actual screen

[spice nymph]

Because the panel itself didn't have the correct software for properly running two partitioned screen portions simultaneously?

Ergo why it was using a mirroring approach to basically broadcast the visuals to it, rather than correctly rendering and displaying it in real time and gaining in latency?

[prime lark]

is the issue really fixed? the timing is still off
or is it just a thing where you cant notice the issue with the naked eye after their fix

[magic rune]

3ms seems a whole lot better than 3 whole frames lol

[prime lark]

oh its ms?

ok yeah thats fine

[plush shard]

Yeah, they’ll never be able to completely get rid of the buffer since it’s still needed to avoid jelly scrolling, but as is it’s way better than what they were doing before.

[unkempt sage]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvfOa9VrAu8

[thorny flint]

Isn't that 30ms?

[magic rune]

No unless I’m mistaken

[thorny flint]

If the timer in the pic is in seconds, then that's 50ms and 20ms

[magic rune]

Yes but the big number looks like it should be the second marker if u watch the video

Moves too fast under slow speed otherwise

[thorny flint]

It's hard to tell with the slow motion, but I'd just assume the big number is the second. It'd be kinda hard for the person to turn the timer on and off in a tenth of a second

[magic rune]

True

[thorny flint]

Oh that's you said too. But if it is the second, then the pic shows 50 and 20ms. it'd be 5 ms if it was 0.005 seconds

[magic rune]

Oh fair enough

[buoyant obsidian]

Can someone remind me the shipping date for the dual screen addon? I remember it was delayed. I ve placed my order the 3rd of july

[broken turret]

They should start on Monday

[paper mural]

still super hype for mine

[broken turret]

I mean, it will be okay, but THOR is kinda crushing the interest right now I bet, especially with the 865 version RDS and Flip2 may be in hot waters

[paper mural]

oh for sure but its not stopping me haha

[unkempt sage]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

[broken turret]

You gonna do a 3 screen Thor?

[paper mural]

gotta

[broken turret]

gotta screen them all

[static hinge]

Yup the latency was identical on all devices.

[sinful pewter]

Thank you

[oblique mirage]

The best part of this addon is that now we may get input latency timings in reviews 🙂 .

[unkempt sage]

same as the RPMini mess brought some shader testing

[oblique mirage]

The 50hz debacle of the Gameforce ACE 😂 -- err I think it was the ACE

[feral silo]

Russ is getting a second screen so he can keep the first without the firmware update, so we'll definitely be seeing it for this. But for future devices, it's definitely going to be a question everyone asks going forward.

It's not a bad thing.

[quaint hornet]

At least it was fixed on Linux lol

[spice nymph]

Already waited this long, what's the weekend, right?

[fierce palm]

Just one more thing retroid should have been able to catch before release. They seem to fail on something stupid every release. 🤣 Retroid has got to be the laziest company there is.

[unkempt sage]

Retroid has got to be the laziest company there is.
you havent been here long i see 😄

this whole segment used to be sooo much worse .... even counting recent retroid derps

[merry knot]

This is a super messy launch

[unkempt sage]

i mean most of the people on reddit didnt even knew the word latecy before dweeb pointed it out 😛

[fierce palm]

Yeah but other companies improved. Retroid has gotten worse

They are almost like. Release it let's see if they notice

[fierce palm]

That's true. I knew about it. I'm just not sensitive to it. Input lag and such don't bother/affect me

[unkempt sage]

tbh i would still say they overall got better

[fierce palm]

Better? They had failing with every device after the 2+ 🤣

[unkempt sage]

but i am the kind of person that hates whoever the hell designed the button layout of RP3+ with fierce passion

[fierce palm]

Non responsive screens. Green tints. Failing triggers. Failing hinges. Like... c'mon

[unkempt sage]

falling screens was mostly anbernic (every other release at that)

[fierce palm]

Uh. No. Retroid had screens that didn't respond to touch on the lower half

And then screen issues on the rp4 along with triggers.

[unkempt sage]

tbh didn have rp4 so no clue there and similarly ignored flips

my experience is that they massively improved all around

from the abomination to god that was rp3+ metal

to rpm5/mini that were great even despite the mini screen thing

[fierce palm]

Despite them lying for months and months and pretending the community was the issue before someone butchered their device to prove them wrong 🤣 great company

That's definitely them getting better 🤣

[unkempt sage]

they did made it right in the end

which never happened when i had issues with anbernic or powkiddy

powkddy fo example dragged me or 3 months over chat support until they said "1 year of warranty is over fuck you"

ayaneo refsed to refund me order they failed o deliver for weeks

there is no winner here and no point in shilling to ever single of these companies ... and yes i absolutely see latency/shadderstuff minuscule (aka rare few would ever notice ) compare to screen falling out of the device during gameplay

[fierce palm]

These companies are the winner. Consumers are the loser lol. As long as we keep buying their failures 🤷🏻‍♂️

[tired dock]

does this attachment block the airflow/intake vents on the rp5? Especially with the grip on.
Like any impact on temperature etc.

[fierce palm]

Doubtful. Lol. Would be the worst design ever. After their hinge

[quaint hornet]

Highly doubt it

[broken turret]

the world may thank me for this case

[tired dock]

I remember Russ mentioning something about no rubber padding or similar when the screen is closed down? Did they make any changes for that?
Or is that not an issue even if you press down on the screen when it's closed, especially when in a soft case

[unkempt sage]

i might just stick little strips of felt somewhere if needed

[broken turret]

the contact point on the RP5 is the bottom of the clip, it should be fine if you carry it in the case, but I wouldn't just toss it in a bag like that

on the RP Mini it rests on the sticks, which personally I find less ideal, but Russ seems to prefer it

[spice nymph]

Get a square of felt and just place it when done

[feral silo]

From one of the reddit users who got theirs before the firmware fix thing

[proper glacier]

That cable looks absurdly long 🤔

[unkempt sage]

https://rxddit.com/r/retroid/comments/1mxlo2q/dual_screen_photos/naaqw1i

i guess this guy received wrong cable

[feral silo]

That isn't the review cable

[unkempt sage]

yes

[feral silo]

The review cable was a straight thing with adapters on it

This one is clearly custom made with angled male ends

[unkempt sage]

this guy received this reply from retroid

everyone else should be getting the premium cable that is exactly the right length to stay flush with the device

[feral silo]

Perhaps, but that isn't the cable reviewers got, either

[unkempt sage]

guy is probably just confused lol

😄

[feral silo]

Indeed. I'm of the opinion that it's just the finalized cable and they only made one length for both clips.

[unkempt sage]

tbh ultimately i dont really care as long as it slots to the bottom😄

[feral silo]

Yeah, lol. It's just funny.

[plush shard]

Uh…That isn’t the wrong cable, that’s exactly the design they showed in the renders.

The cable that Retroid is sending out to people is the reworked cable that is apparently needed for the latency fix.

[feral silo]

Yeah, it'll be an additional one

[broken turret]

isn't that just needed for the patch?

[feral silo]

Correct. RNS is saying that's why the email said the person is getting another cable. Not because it's the wrong cable, but because they still need the additional one.

[quaint hornet]

So much rage for a fucking cable 😂

[old bluff]

at least it's not built in & cables are only a couple bucks

[unkempt sage]

retro fandom likes to rage a lot for some reason

[proper glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/bh187-jim-carrey-the-cable-guy-drill-get-ready-gif-12102363590302339755

[grim hornet]

I'm watching Joeys livestream now

this is pre-latency fix, but damn it's super noticeable when he gets to Sonic Rush

like you can see with the naked eye one screen lagging behind the other

I hope the fix is the real deal

[grim hornet]

okay I finished the livestream

dear god it is janky lol

but I guess you can't complain for the price

it sort of works you'll just have to deal with some jank here and there

[unkempt sage]

its ultimately still cheapest external oled on the market

even discounting the clip and such

[grim hornet]

for sure

[unkempt sage]

Lmao mediatek

[old bluff]

oof

"Our R&D team is actively working on a new solution involving an updated DP video receiver chip to achieve compatibility with MTK platforms." sooo.. this won't work on any mediatek devices?

[unkempt sage]

Maybe more modern chips could

[tired dock]

So need to wait 3-4 months if you want one with universal compatibility?

[quaint hornet]

Who knows, I have a rockchip GPU lol

[digital jetty]

Didn’t they literally show a video of it working with a RP4 pro?

[unkempt sage]

Probably the fix they did for latency does t work with mtk

[long ibex]

Ayyyy lmao

[dire pumice]

They randomly cancelled my order and issued a refund. Weird

[feral silo]

If you have only a Retroid Pocket 4/Pro in your order history and not a newer device, they issued a refund because the RDS with latency fix does not work with Mediatek chips.

It's a shitshow.

[dire pumice]

Yeah, not a smart system. They could have just asked… I have an rp5 plus it was also supposed to work with other devices

Well, got back some usd100

[feral silo]

Very not smart system

[proper glacier]

Cancelled mine. I dont have much confidence in this thing after issues and delays

[feral silo]

Ironically, I'm trying to cancel mine because I'd rather have a whole new device in the Thor but they haven't gotten back to me yet lol

[proper glacier]

I sent the email but only about an hour ago

[river lily]

Cancelled mine too. Just kinda over retroid at this point

Tho still here for the drama haha

[unkempt sage]

lol

[gleaming robin]

Yeah this is a hot mess

[unkempt sage]

but hey

at least this time .... its not over weekend 😄

[ruby thorn]

Didn't need to cancel because they cancelled for me lol.

[hasty carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-guy-relaxing-popcorm-popcorn-gif-26404903

[plush plume]

So disappointed this won't work on my device now. Do I wait for RP6 or get the Thor then?

Don't really want a perpetual second screen though, and not huge on clamshells if they hurt ergonomics and the shoulder buttons at all

[dire pumice]

Lol… made my day “we have not sold it to distributors, so it couldn’t happen”. At least the 100 I got back helped to fund the thor pre-order. Also left pocket, right pocket for them 😉

[vital nimbus]

Go for a device that IS compatible with the second screen. Its understandable if your not sure about risking on retroid again. Maybe some other company will do add on screens. Im in the same boat. This is perfect for me cause like you I dont always want a second screen

[gleaming robin]

For the devices it actually works for a modular second screen does feel like the best case scenario usecase-wise, cause yeah just take it off when you don't need it

[broken turret]

I will probably keep one RDS and pawn the other off to a friend who has an RP5

[oblique mirage]

I'm in the lucky group who ordered the rp5 from them. Screen is still on the way. It was and still is the cheapest option to add a dual screen. Will see how it turns out.

[spice nymph]

Just waiting for an email back from em about my order

[unkempt sage]

my order is like half day past preorder opening ... so if i look at how RP5/mini was shipped

i might be in like 5th batch

[spice nymph]

Trying to remember when it went live for preorders, had my order submitted the 9th of June

[spice nymph]

Guess I ordered day one, going based on dates posted for the reveal

[grim hornet]

mine shipped today

though I'm still on the fence if I want it lol

I'll play around with it, but Thor will be the real deal

[unkempt sage]

When you ordered?

[grim hornet]

around 15 minutes after preorders opened

[spice nymph]

I'm still interested in it, and if the issues have been fixed for the rp5, then I'm good with the cash spent for it

Thor is definitely an interest, but not a high priority one if this functions as intended

[grim hornet]

this one still has one important advantage over Thor: when used with the RP5, both screens are the same size

that will make a difference for DS games where the gameplay spans both screens

[unkempt sage]

Yes if set up right

[river lily]

And full size YT and browsers

[plush plume]

How does that help? Even if there were widescreen hacks for the DS, most games are 2D so it would just be stretching the screen to use all of either screen. Unless you're committing the horrible sin of stretching

[quaint hornet]

DS screens were the same size, so they will be scaled the same on both displays

[plush plume]

I really like Retroid though, and there's no device I really want to upgrade from the RP4Pro for now. Closest I would want is the Odin Mini

[plush plume]

But DS is still 4:3 (or close enough to it), so all you're doing is stretching it the same amount

[quaint hornet]

Yeah, I suppose it wouldn’t matter, just means the pixel scaling will be the same I guess

[tired dock]

which matters for games that does use both screen for main/combined gameplay like the above video

[still cove]

Ok so it literally doesn't work with the RP4P at all, it seems. It's not just that the fix to reduce lag doesn't work, as some have speculated. I guess they really did fake the RP4P demo.

[tired dock]

where was this confirmed/mentioned? or someone else tested without the latency fix?

[still cove]

Seems like people have started receiving it. Like this japanese user.

https://x.com/TVKENICHI04/status/1960168927457419522?t=N1FRvLDvWY_AN8ZUFJ2VSw&s=19

TV KENICHI＠TGS参戦 (@TVKENICHI04)

レトロイドのスクリーンだけどRP4PROではダメだな。公式がいうようにスクリーン対応してないから映らないし、そもそも作りがダメ。
特にモニターをずらさないと付属のUSB(L型)が刺さらないのが残念。DSで画面ズレるの嫌だよね🙄あと、モニター付けたらボ...

X · Aug 26, 2025, 2:34 AM

[tired dock]

thats terrible then, especially after the rp mini fiasco

[plush plume]

Does rearranging screens work differently if you're using two screens? The emulators make it easy to resize and move the screens, so even if they're different size screens, you can easily rearrange them so that they line up without stretching (again, unless that functionality is different when using two screens)

[tired dock]

yes, you can, but you just ended up wasting some screen (this is in addition to the black bars 4:3 get on 16:9). The larger the difference in height of the 2 screens the more this apparent.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1407307760147628104/1409236609290735689/RDT_20250821_1746334940094244027790979.jpg?ex=68ae9f9e&is=68ad4e1e&hm=deb8c600ec924a8cd6d84f9bbe5f4744a8d96124c5d14995c38f5310ad0dbb9e&

[quaint hornet]

Damn, that really is the cable lol

[inner lance]

Great graphics. Good news is that many games work well even if the screen relative sizes are different from the original

[dense cradle]

Yeah, there's only a few games that, imo, require the same size on both screens. Sonic Rush and its sequels, Contra 4, and the Dragon Quest games iirc.

[inner lance]

It’s hard to fit a bigger bottom screen if the top screen fills the top part

3DS has a camera above the top screen

[buoyant obsidian]

Hey guys, just to be sure. Someone beside testers received their dual screen addon? Even shipped status?

[spice nymph]

No news on my end, shot em an email asking what's going on earlier today

[old bluff]

mine shipped yesterday

[grim hornet]

mine shipped today a few hours ago

[grim hornet]

it's not about widescreen, it's about having both 4:3 screens be the same size; you don't need to stretch anything to benefit

[grim hornet]

bigger screen bottom has an easy solution, make it loooong

a DS baguette if you will

give it 1 year and someone will make it lol

[sour raft]

Mine shipped as well

[quaint hornet]

When will “other devices” ship…? 😭

[tired dock]

Maybe when the new version with mediatek support ships? Else they alot SKUs on their end

Does the existing one works with unisoc such as t820? Or does that don't have usb c video out in the first place?

[quaint hornet]

Whaaa, surely not

Otherwise I would be cancelling right now, not waiting 3 months lol

[old bluff]

t820 is mediatek, won't work

[spice nymph]

Well, at least I have confirmation that my order is good, just no shipment as of yet, mildly curious how many of these sold

[paper mural]

yea mine hasn't shipped yet but hasn't been canceled either

but i ordered mine last month on the 3rd so mine prolly won't ship for a bit

[tired dock]

It's Mali, but unisoc. That's why I was asking if any reviewers tested it.

[old bluff]

You're right, but yah it's been tested & doesn't work, probably for the best anyway, it's always had video out issues

[inner lance]

So how come in this video, the addon works on RP4P but not on the final product? https://youtu.be/NLKciRpFftY?si=fbnIRnHrADLRdAlP

[old bluff]

i mean something must've changed between that early engineering sample & the shipping product that made it incompatible, it's not uncommon & could have been for a variety of reasons. I doubt they'll ever share why exactly, but they clearly could have handled the situation better (once again).

also kinda surprised they haven't privated that video lol

[still cove]

For the RPMini footage, it shows a dual screen game. For the RP4P part, it only shows a browser on the top screen. It could very easily have been faked.

[inner lance]

Fake as in the video source of the addon is from another device?

[still cove]

Yeah

[inner lance]

That sounds more like it and they thought they could make it work before shipping

It’s funny how Retroid always screw up with things from time to time

[unkempt sage]

seems like people getting theirs slowly

[tired dock]

Interested in 1, looks like a good 3ds/ds experience (from the above maybe even better than thor/pocket ds), but don't want to get locked to only Qualcomm.
By the time they sort out this mess there likely to be even more DS choices.

[unkempt sage]

tbh i only ever intended to use it with pc, RPmini/5 and Odin 2 ... so ine by me 😄

i was also never able to make my old exterbal screen to work with RG Cube (even post patch tha was supposed to allow it) .. so i didnt expect it here either

[grim hornet]

https://youtu.be/k1tmGSGN96g?si=SOHSWqdQcVepwdVR

absolute cinema

[tidal gulch]

how have they not been doing QA on this thing lol

[foggy sphinx]

retroid doesn't do QA

[tidal gulch]

[unkempt sage]

The legendary half life edition

[plush shard]

I still honestly miss it.

[quaint hornet]

Man if I had my order refunded and then told it’s going to work again… what the hell lol

[quaint hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-17729711691959966457

[grim hornet]

monkey paw situation unfortunately, input latency is fixed, but now it's broken on anything other than the rp5 or RP Mini

[unkempt sage]

lol

rip my odin usecase

[proper glacier]

Glad I refunded lol

[grim hornet]

it's a developing situation tho

they may figure something out yet to fix the compatibility issues

[unkempt sage]

i mean odin was not my only usecase for it 😄

[unkempt sage]

looks so small vs LeGo

lol

[plush shard]

And…looks like I’ll be skipping this then. Was planning to use it on my Pocket Ace.

Although, the Pocket Ace was doing the exact same thing on my regular tv for both DS and 3DS, so maybe it’ll actually work properly on the RDS?

[dense cradle]

Yeah that definitely killed any remaining interest I had in this thing unfortunately.

[honest zealot]

If this wasn't 70 bones I'd cancel my order because this entire thing has been embarrassing

[paper mural]

shrugs i still want mine to mess around with lol

[grim hornet]

there's still hope that they'll figure something out

they have been holding out on shipping the "other devices" variant for a reason me thinks

[unreal gull]

This entire situation is crazy. It was such a basic and easy thing to catch and notice. And what confuses me is that they could have very easily treated the reviewers as beta testers by sending them their samples a couple weeks before shipping the finished product. It’s both free beta testing and advertising. But for some reason they have to start shipping before reviewers can put out their videos?

There just seems like no logical business sense to rush like this

[unkempt sage]

It’s both free beta testing and advertising
always is

[merry knot]

Overpromise and underdeliver 💪💪

[unkempt sage]

thats how marketing works

[grim hornet]

no statement yet regarding rp4p compatibility

what if it turns out they spoke too soon and it's actually not compatible with the rp4p again

[unkempt sage]

i mean its 4am in china 😄

[merry knot]

Not like this lol

[wispy inlet]

so that's the final cable?

[feral silo]

Yeah. This is from a reddit post:

[unkempt sage]

have you ever seen politics? GPU marketing comparision graphs? or i dont know fast food?

[feral silo]

Frankly, like that, I think it looks fine. They erred on having more slack while it still fits in the rail.

[unkempt sage]

most of them are way worse that this

or i dont know AAA games and their cgi trailers 😄

[merry knot]

This can't just be passed off as marketing, this is the cable they delayed shipping for, and the "right" cable that they're sending to people who they shipped the "wrong" cable to, even though there's not much difference between the two.

And this is on top of the latency issues, incompatibilities, and refunds

[unkempt sage]

there was a render and there is final cable

[proper glacier]

Did you get your refund? Mine hit my account today

[feral silo]

Yes!

[proper glacier]

Awesome 😊

[feral silo]

It honestly looks like it would have been great for my use. I genuinely only did cancel for the Thor.

I can't justify having both.

[merry knot]

And there was real life pictures before, but they never showed the back with the cable attached 🤔

Nothing shady about that

[feral silo]

Be... cause... they didn't have the ones they wanted made yet? It lines up with them saying the mold for the cable they designed hadn't arrived yet.

[merry knot]

They couldn't find a cable that fit well?

[feral silo]

Why would they need to when they were going to make their own?

[unkempt sage]

even though there's not much difference between the two.
thats straigh up lie ... this is what reviewers got lol - round cable

[merry knot]

There's a large amount of slack either way, it's not a lie it's just a question of tolerance

[unkempt sage]

i am not saying they didnt fucked up multiple ways

[merry knot]

I'd agree one is worse than the other but that doesn't mean either is good

[unkempt sage]

but most of the render vs final product stuff is pretty much standard worldy marketing

[merry knot]

One thing being bad doesn't mean another bad thing is justified

Either way I don't really think those are really comparable

[feral silo]

Other side was just a removable adapter, too, lol

[unkempt sage]

i would personally that the stuff gpu/phone companies do on daily basis is much worse than any of the slip ups on minority issues like cables ... but ymmw i guess

[merry knot]

Maybe true, but none of those really have anything do with what we're talking about though

[unkempt sage]

i am talking about marketing vs reality and how people suck it up when its big ciorpo even thoigh they are doing them violently from behind over 1000$ products
while small company having minor slipup on 100$ product is end of the world issue

[merry knot]

#1381656143318880296 message

[honest zealot]

I don't think it's exactly the same as this lol

[old bluff]

i mean...

[honest zealot]

This is tooootally the same as a 5 dollar burger looking worse than the ad. Why complain

[unkempt sage]

it is

[honest zealot]

Can't tell if trolling or copium

[unkempt sage]

but i guess it was kinda obvious

given the original render was so tight it wouldnt realistically close

so they overdid it on other way 😄

[old bluff]

i think it works as a metaphor tbh

[honest zealot]

I think its more the fact they're this close to release and they never bothered to tell people

[unkempt sage]

tbh i am still surprsied they keep the discord up

[old bluff]

Like they could have gone for one of these types of cables, kinda baffling they didn't

[unkempt sage]

i think i am just tired of same things over and over again , escalating overeactions over shrinking levels of issues , dram for dramas sake , brand wards andd rive by trolling across like 4 discords
maybe i just miss the days we had to edit ini files and flash CFWs .. cause the companies just never gave an F to interact post release ... and the community stood up and helped every one to make it great. Now simple cable spirals community into i dont even know how to call it .. again and again

[grim hornet]

you are not wrong

but drama aside I am happy that we actually get support from these companies beyond "here's the product, bye!"

people don't appreciate it but it's a major step up compared to what we used to have

5 years ago you told GPD that their handheld had input latency or something and they'd be like "hahaha, have fun!"

[dense cradle]

That's if they'd respond to you, I'm sure.

[plush shard]

Also, if AYANEO can have better customer support than what they used to, then no one’s allowed to make excuses.

#1349629205620457514 message

[hasty carbon]

RETROID - WE DON'T HAVE THE TIME FOR QC, BUT WE HAVE THE TIME FOR GREATING NON-WORKING PRODUCTS!!!

[honest zealot]

Like what?

[grim hornet]

still no rp4p compatibility announcement? weird

[unkempt sage]

That's good

Means the are bo rushing it

But I guess depends if community gets crazy over weekend like usual

[grim hornet]

or they are scrambling to figure out how to handle the refunds situation

[unkempt sage]

So they will probably d their usuall halfthoughtout rushed post on monday

[fierce palm]

Love reading comments from people that still have faith in the shit show that is Retroid lol

[fierce palm]

It works, then it doesn't so we'll cancel on everyone, oh wait...it does work so place your orders now!

[broken turret]

well, I requested cancellation for my order just now
hope the screens will pop up on AliExpress at one point, then I will grab a single one for my RP5, just because, but I definitely don't feel like grabbing multiple of these anymore 😅

[unkempt sage]

wait you ahd multiple lol?

[broken turret]

the other devices one too

but fuck it, the issues keep piling up as it seems

[oblique mirage]

What are the correct settings on this thing? RDS has low latency, but the screen is sideways.

TV setting is correct orientation, but way bad latency.

Crap, I'm in RDS mode as in Russs video. Seems I'm one of the early buyers who got this with the old firmware.

[grim hornet]

yeah looks like you have to get in touch with their support

I recommend their support channel on their discord, it's speedier than email

[unkempt sage]

seems like they are shipping the other clip too

[spice nymph]

Still no news for my order aside from it still being good

[unkempt sage]

my order was about 10h from launch of preorders

so they are still shipping day 1 orders

[spice nymph]

Jesus, that's some good numbers

[grim hornet]

gonna be awkward when you have the clip for "other" devices but can't really use it because of compatibility issues

[unkempt sage]

By the time it arrives ... pretty sure there will be working

[broken turret]

they asked me for the reason I wanted to cancel, instead of just doing it, seems pretty desperate after all the shit this device has gone through

dude, I ordered multiple of these screens and only have one RP5, take a wild guess

[proper glacier]

They didn't even ask me for a reason lol

[broken turret]

should have just wrote "I will buy a THOR with that money, lol"

not that that is the reason, but come on

maybe they should really have their stuff working as intended before they sell it

[proper glacier]

The delays I could have lived with but the issues are seemingly one after the other so I just cancelled it

[foggy sphinx]

At this point I’d rather get a dna duo

[plush shard]

Nah, I’m still shitting on that guy for ES-DE and for blatantly being an asshole.

Hell, I’d rather buy the Retroid DS as-is before I give that shithead a cent.

[foggy sphinx]

Of course, lol

If anyone wants dual screen emulation in 2025

You go with the Thor

[plush shard]

Just get Thor or Pocket DS.

[proper glacier]

I'd never support that absolute cretin

[foggy sphinx]

I hope ayn doesn’t mess this up

This needs to be the perfect device

[plush shard]

I’m unironically hoping they’ll take take a page out of AYANEO’s book and actually start working with devs to get stuff like software working better instead of just sticking with “what works”.

[foggy sphinx]

Aya Neo is making moves

Genuinely hope they succeed with konkr and code r

But they gotta add 4PX

[proper glacier]

They already do and have sent out devices to developers including rocknix

They've been doing this long before AYA lol

[plush shard]

Excellent, then as long as they keep doing it and actually start taking input from devs like “add a toggle for Local Dimming on the Odin 2 Mini”, everything will be fine.

[tidal gulch]

At least they managed to release it and fix it instead of just constantly delaying and over pricing it

[merry knot]

Maybe they should've delayed it a little bit more though

[plush shard]

A bit more sure, I wouldn’t take a page out of DNA’s book by delaying it for a whole fucking year.

[merry knot]

Well yeah

[plush shard]

Where the only meaningful changes have been changing the IPS screen for an OLED one with a $15-$25 price increase, and then another price increase from $175 to $202 for literally no properly explained reason.

[proper glacier]

Theres probably a correlation between the price increase and his ego 😅

[broken turret]

the cretin probably realized that inflation happened and his profit margin wasn't as big as he desired it to be anymore

[unkempt sage]

As much of a mess up this ended up being ... I would rather throws the money out of the windows than supporting that pathetic wanker

• my primary use for retroid screen is secondary "jira screen" connected to side of my work laptop (replacing the old external lcd paid triple the money for)

[feral silo]

Exciting! I hope it progresses well, I'm excited for the competition to make it better for everyone lmao.

have they reached out to Huesos for dual screen things

[unkempt sage]

yes

[feral silo]

I know Ayaneo has, but good to hear Ayn, too.

The consumers are winning in this exchange

[proper glacier]

Yes they've already been speaking to him

[feral silo]

[spice nymph]

I just want to be able to play DS/3ds/taito stuff on the go

Without partitioning the screen weirdly

[unkempt sage]

huh ... never tried to make taito stuff work with external screen

[hasty carbon]

I'm SO confused does this work with the RP4PRO or not?

🤡

[halcyon sandal]

it doesn't

[hasty carbon]

Ok I'll wait then 🙂

[spice nymph]

Figured it was worth trying taito stuff with the second screen, see how many ways I can make it worth the cost

[halcyon sandal]

its weird it seems like it still works with other display port out devices, my theory is its not getting adequete power off the thing but I'll have to get my hands on it to get the lowdown

[grim hornet]

allegedly will work, but not officially confirmed yet

currently does not

[broken turret]

My RDS order is marked as refunded, half a THOR paid

[grim hornet]

don't worry I'll post pics when I get mine and you'll FOMO and order again

should be due later this week

[broken turret]

fully intend to grab one later if it pops up on Ali, but not multiple

[unkempt sage]

Hmm , interesting .... 4px is using the aliexpress route to eu 🤔
Might end up being faster than I expected ... its already in hungary after 2 days

Last time they went through hong Kong, Singapore and the netherlands ... and that alone took more than a week

[grim hornet]

lucky you, mine is doing the whole hk -> sg -> nl trip

[unkempt sage]

i guess its a tossup on which route they do 😄

[verbal urchin]

Just posted the latest AliExpress coupons #1374058516284706928 message

[paper mural]

my order hasn't been shipped nor as has it been refunded lol

its in purgatory

[spice nymph]

Just trying to maintain patience

[paper mural]

i emailed them today so we shall see

i want the RDS so they just need to ship it already haha

[spice nymph]

Kind of wish that they'd have posted up the wait times like they had, so that you at least had an idea of when your order would be processed

[broken turret]

I made 0.62€ profit on my refund

[paper mural]

i only ordered 1 and i want it so lol

[broken turret]

https://tenor.com/view/stonks-up-stongs-meme-stocks-gif-15715298

[paper mural]

i'll wait until they ship it

[spice nymph]

One screen with clip, an extra clip, protector, and a grip

[grim hornet]

time to order and refund a few thousand times and make a killing

[merry knot]

Stretching the bottom screen has gotta be illegal

[broken turret]

So now it works?

[unkempt sage]

chris is testing ota

[broken turret]

What a mess

[tidal gulch]

I wonder if any will update the portal so it works with the screen

[paper mural]

I am hoping so cause that's what I plan to use it with haha

[unkempt sage]

will try to mess around when i get it

[eager nimbus]

I really hope they work the issues out, since the possibility of me getting the addon went from "no chance with the Thor existing" to "might consider it if I get the Odin 3 first"

I don't think I'd buy this at the same time as my next handheld regardless, more of if I already end up owning whatever I get next that isn't the Thor

[tidal gulch]

with the screen they cancelled all orders that only had the RP4 in the order history, do people that ordered just the screen with the extra hinge still have their orders intact considering this only seems to work properly on a Retroid device now?

[unkempt sage]

no word about the apk now, but chris said he will ask

[tribal night]

Like, the willingness to refund is nice and all, but dang, there are other ways to get an RP5/Mini than from their site.
Not to mention people who wanted it for other devices.

[sour raft]

Well, testing time hath come

[still cove]

Retroid's gonna Retroid.

[oblique mirage]

They didn't give me the flashing cable so mine had the correct orientation in TV mode. I think RDS is the low-latency one.

[spice nymph]

Huzzah

[obtuse anvil]

why don't they make a clip/cable that works with the steam deck and print money

[tidal gulch]

the screen buzzes when connectedto the steamdeck

[untold vault]

I got both models, this old wired and new wirless, its great really, it has 4 speakers so you get real surround, center channel is emulated, but you have front and side channel

[untold vault]

Do you have Portal by chance?
I wonder how it perfoms

[sour raft]

no, no Portal

[tidal gulch]

at the minute the screen isn't working properly on the portal, it just stays in portrait position, it was in the last dualscreen video RGC did

[broken turret]

good fucking thing I cancelled my order

[fierce palm]

I'm honestly surprised there are people still holding on to the wait for this lol

[unkempt sage]

Tbh that should be easy fix .... Will mes around myself smwhen it srrives

[untold vault]

Maybe that update only came to RP versions and not the universal version, otherwise NO ONE will be able to use their screen

[grim hornet]

it's niche now but has its use cases

I received mine yesterday but haven't had time to play with it yet

prob on the weekend

[dense cradle]

If I had an RP5 I'd still be interested in this.

But with an Odin 2 Mini I was quite unsure how I felt about it. And then the Thor got announced.

[eager nimbus]

Still getting a Thor, but mainly considering this as a way to hold me over on the O3 until I’ve seen how well the Thor hinge holds up long term

[tidal gulch]

only difference in the universal version is the hinge thing not the actual screen

[fierce palm]

If/when it works. Retroid has dropped the ball on everything lately. I wouldn't trust anything they do at this point. It's a shit show 😅

[old bluff]

that's the thing tho, unless they went with the original screen firmware (with latency) for the 'other devices' model, they'll be unusable on other devices, since the fix was removing the hardware rotation the screen was doing & instead doing software rotation on the device itself, which only retroids & windows machines support, so on anything else you'll end up with this

[unkempt sage]

i guess we just have to wait for the apk to do the roation

[old bluff]

apk can't fix that tho, so I imagine there'll be some pretty pissed off customers (again)

[unkempt sage]

shame i cant mess around right now

[old bluff]

if gamma felt like adding it as a gammaOS feature that'd work, but that only helps if you've got a supported device

[unkempt sage]

prett sure adb has way if software way wont work

[tired dock]

how does android handle it on the main screen (on the rp5) which I assume is also in portrait mode like most other mobile devices?

[old bluff]

in the latest OTA update they added a video output mode that's 1080x1920 instead of 1920x1080 specifically for use with the RDS

in the device itself it's basically doing what the external one was before

[oblique mirage]

Retroid sent mine without the fix. RDS mode is not landscape on the add on screen. They are saying they will send a cable later.

[grim hornet]

that sucks, but usually their support is good with these kinds of things, they'll follow through

[grim hornet]

well hello there

will be checking out the grip first

@broken turret I got your bag

doesn't fit the Odin 2 due to the shape but almost

yup it's a gigantic bag lmao

about the same size as the og Odin 2 but thicker and with slanted sides

First impressions of the grip: looks super nice (indigo color is really well matched) and it's actually really comfy

I'm not a grip person usually, I'm of the mind that either the handheld is comfy as is or don't bother putting something on it

but when the DS addon came out I thought, eh what the hell, let's add the grip to the order

[broken turret]

yeah the grip add-on makes it a lot better, still contemplating if it will be necessary for the Odin 3

but good thing you bought the bag I willed into existence

[grim hornet]

do you have the og Odin 2? I don't find a grip necessary there, so if it's the same I think we'll be golden

[broken turret]

nah, skipped that one, only O2M and P

[grim hornet]

well the bumps on the og Odin 2 are significantly more pronounced than on the Portal

the Odin 3 looks to be roughly the same in that regard

so I would skip the grip

[broken turret]

probably the better move, if anything I would have gotten the non-grip case + grip just to decide that I don't wanna use it

especially as the Odin 3 seems to be around my comfort size for devices, 5.5" with no bezels turned out a bit smaller than anticipated

[grim hornet]

yeah 6" is really the sweet spot between portability and big screen

Ok this grip is the absolute GOAT

I thought it was gonna be a gimmick

but no this grip transforms the RP5, makes it great again

went from "no way I'm playing anything stick centric here" to "yeah I can play everything comfortably now"

only downside of course is portability, this grip makes it a larger device all told

[broken turret]

it was too small to begin with, expected it to be more in line with my x28

Odin 3 will be great, hands down, nearly same size

[grim hornet]

I should have done this earlier

[broken turret]

you need the GCN stick caps for the Mini too tho

[tidal gulch]

Waiting to see how the other clip fits on a portal even tho the screen doesn't work on it

[grim hornet]

I actually kind of dig it with the black sticks

I was gonna do the swap but ended up used to it

[broken turret]

I mean you can always just pop off the caps, so whatever

[grim hornet]

uuuh

am I doing something wrong here or why am I getting no signal on the screen after plugging in it

[broken turret]

rip screen, you already did the OTA and selected output mode?

[grim hornet]

yeah

tried everything possible

it's a dud

can't believe this shit

[broken turret]

man, Retroid was once the company everyone praised, but they produced so much shit recently

[grim hornet]

first time I preorder and get a dead device from the get go

welp, time to contact support

[broken turret]

at least they should send a replacement without issue

you tried a different cable already? the supplied one seem to be pretty shit

[grim hornet]

don't think I have another video out USB c to USBC cable at hand

but it could be the cable yeah

thank god it's quality assurance accepted

[old bluff]

i was prepared for janky, but this is practically unusable

[spice nymph]

I mean, we all paid admission to the shit show, have fun with it

[broken turret]

you sure the cable is properly in the port? seemed to be a pretty wonky operation from the get go

[old bluff]

mine disconnects if there's a slight breeze or i look at it wrong, currently most of the 3ds games i actually want to play are unplayable because my sticks refuse to go to 100% (so i'm stuck at walking speed in zelda/mario etc), no change no matter how many times i calibrate & azahar doesn't have sensitivity adjustment (was not an issue pre-ota so i think something's changed there), and melonds seems to have some weird rendering issues where the top screen starts wigging out, so not much fun to be had lol

[unkempt sage]

as much as the RPMini was a mess they did great for me in the end eve though i broke few cables doing the screen switch 😄

[broken turret]

I'm still salty I had to wait like 3 weeks longer because they shipped me a screen replacement kit first instead of a device 😂

[spice nymph]

Still sitting here waiting for shipping details, no news tomorrow and I'm throwing shade

[unkempt sage]

mine seems to be somehwere in europe 😄

4px says its through import customs

but local post number says they havent recwived it yet

so probably sitsa in some customs office in hungary or netherlands

[shut cove]

mine was delivered on Thursday and I immediately started trying to work out how to make the power and volume buttons accessible on the mini. Here is my rough draft at that in case it helps anyone else (model link is in the description) - https://youtu.be/kfQjSOfn_t8?feature=shared

please feel free to adapt and improve it as well - open license

[proper glacier]

Im sure I saw someone have those issue in the retroid discord. What happens if you plug a charger into the side of the screen? Does it turn on?

[spice nymph]

Anyone got the link to the retroid discord?

[unkempt sage]

https://www.reddit.com/r/retroid/comments/qclocy/official_retroid_pocket_discord_channel

[spice nymph]

Well, that might explain the length of time, purple screens didn't start shipping until thursday

Thanks for the link, helped a fair bit already

[unkempt sage]

taht almost looks like the port on your mini is busted

[old bluff]

it's only been an issue with this

more likely the qc on these cables is bad

just plugged my mini into my pc & rattled the cable vigorously, no disconnections

this is pretty much exactly what RGC was describing

[broken turret]

boy am I glad I cancelled that order 😂

[old bluff]

i'm glad i decided to pre-order the thor when it went live, it won't fix the software jankery but it will fix the hardware ones

[grim hornet]

sadly no, passthrough does work and the device does charge, but otherwise no video signal

[grim hornet]

Narrator: he would have preordered anyway

[grim hornet]

if I plug it into a charger without connecting it to another device, nothing happens (should something happen? I don't imagine I'd get anything if it's not plugged into something else)

@old bluff could you confirm for me real quick if you get anything on screen if you plug a charger into the passthrough port without it being otherwise connected to a handheld?

[broken turret]

why would anything happen, it has no battery build in

[grim hornet]

idk the Retroid logo could flash or something

[old bluff]

nothing happens

[grim hornet]

okay thanks, just as a sanity check

huh

I was able to plug it into a laptop and get signal

[broken turret]

you already tried some different cables?

standard USB-C with data should work, shouldn't it?

[grim hornet]

tried standard USB c to USB c but no dice

I think the cable has to explicitly support dp video out though

anyway, it actually does work when plugged in into a windows laptop

this has got to be the cable that is shitty

for what is worth video out on my RP5 works, so it's not the RP5 that is busted

[broken turret]

try using the cable the other way around

[grim hornet]

already did man, a million times

[broken turret]

it's wild how the cable does work, but not with the device it is supposed to work with

[proper glacier]

I saw someone on the retroid discord that when it was connect to their device the screen would only turn on if the charger was plugged in

I wondered if it was a similar thing here

[grim hornet]

appreciate the thought but sadly it isn't doing it for me, nothing happens other than charging the device when I plug a charger into the passthrough port

[grim hornet]

I think this is just an incredibly finicky cable that chooses to work in some cases but not others

[broken turret]

yeah, the cable was ass to begin with and one of the reasons I cancelled

hopefully they will re-do them and send out better ones to anyone who got their RDS already

[proper glacier]

That sucks 😔

[grim hornet]

alright I just submitted a 20 page report with my findings to their support

hopefully they can help me out

in the meantime I think I'm gonna buy a dp video USB c cable on Amazon and see if I can get it to work

[unkempt sage]

Poor baby support guy trying to Google translate that to chinese

[grim hornet]

eh, there's ChatGPT, or DeepSeek, he'll be fine

[unkempt sage]

Reminds me we just got warning .ail at work to never use deepseek on company computers

[grim hornet]

IT'S ALIVE

confirmed, cable is shitty, new cable works

[unkempt sage]

Will be fun testing when mine arives next week

[broken turret]

Amazon works fast, lol

[grim hornet]

lmao no, I was able to find cable that did do video out at home

[broken turret]

who would have guessed that

[grim hornet]

well, it's an USB extension plugged in into the shitty cable to be more specific, but it works

unfortunately you need at least the top end of the cable to be L shaped, otherwise you can't angle the screen at all, it's locked at an unusable 90 degrees

[broken turret]

they really should have made this with a build in cable 😅

but at least we can excuse the QC guys on this issue, as I bet the displays are tested with a cable that is permanently plugged into a device doing video out and the supplied cables are just tossed into the box

[grim hornet]

I think they rushed the final cable

and cut corners in testing as a result

[broken turret]

nobody will ever test the god damn cables they send with their devices, nobody

it's always a cable that has been plugged in pretty much permanently for some testing

but yeah, guess you mean testing as in making sure that this shit works properly before even doing large quantities for retail

which it probably did with the few sample units they made, albeit given that it barely fits into the space at the back of the clamp, who knows if they even tested that

[fierce palm]

Gotta love retroid lol

[unkempt sage]

But taht would limit lots of other things

[unkempt sage]

Yup after tall these years buying these devices there has been only thre cables that I would consider good and still are used today ... ayn cable from odin 2, ayn cable from o2 portal and weirdly cable that came with win2

[tawny moth]

I mean there's also a chance it did work and when they packed it or shipped it, it broke. Doubtful but still.

[tribal night]

Back when I had to do HW QA people always looked at me funny when they saw me use the cables included with the unit to be tested.
"You'd save a lot of time with just a dedicated test cable/station"

Like, my guy, the cable is one of the first failure points in things.

[broken turret]

there is a reason nobody does it

I would also give you weird looks

and quotas that are impossible to do while testing every cable

at the end of the day, sending the customer a new cable is always cheaper than checking them all

[tribal night]

Saying sorry after is easier 🙃

[feral silo]

This includes instructions on how to do stuff for making the screen properly on other devices

[unkempt sage]

oh nice at least some way to switchnorientation on other devices

still would be nice if ayn added external rotation too to their os

[silver ferry]

Hmm... Is cool, but:

Looks like handheld makers need to patch their Android build to support the orientation change. Seems easy for them to do it though

Then just need a reliable cable and custom device clips from etsy 😅

[unkempt sage]

yeeah still bit complicated but its somethign at least

maybe if more people ask in ayn discord they can implement screen rotation

[fierce palm]

Yeah with ayn coming out with a dual screen device I can see them devoting time to supporting an add-on that isn't theirs. Should definitely ask them about it

[unkempt sage]

i mean adding screen rotation is simplefix if you have access to the OS 😄

and they already technically probably do that to make Thor work anyway (as i bet that screen is also portrait natively like most of them are under 7")

[fierce palm]

I know they could do it. I just don't see how it's financially viable for them to do so.

If the DS doesn't work on their devices and you want better...you buy their thor lol

[tired dock]

So the "others" version actually don't work with anything non retroid?

[plush shard]

Didn’t they already post that one GitHub with the dual screen software, saying that it also has guides on how to fix the issue?

Didn’t get to see it yet, so I’m not sure if it was particularly helpful on that front or if it was effectively just “this is what the devs need to implement”.

[tired dock]

I didn't know that, just scrolling up and reading about rotation issue, and asking Ayn to patch support, which is essentially equivalent to not working on other devices.

[plush shard]

Yeah, DJ forwarded it yesterday, it’s actually not too far up in terms of scrolling.

[sinful pewter]

Anyone here with the screen + an ace ?

[unkempt sage]

its one like .... thatrs like 3 minites of coders work 😄

its more about their willing thes to add single menu option of stuff they already do to make thor work

[fierce palm]

That's what I meant lol. I know they could easily do it. But would they? To support a product they don't produce, technically lol

When they sell a dual screen device

[unkempt sage]

But olitd not just that

Being able tp rotate 3xternal screen is super usefull

[fierce palm]

Business model says no. Just push your own dual screen device

[unkempt sage]

Even outside of RDS

[unkempt sage]

And they already do such rotation for it anyway

I would totally use it to play tate atcades on my ultrawide work monitor too

[tidal gulch]

So with this has someone got it working with portal

[grim hornet]

as it stands it requires a patch in the Android OS itself

Retroid put out the code for that, but the respective manufacturer still has to do the change and release it as an OTA

or, well, Gamma could hack it together but I don't know if he would have interest in this since these are not the chips he usually works on

[halcyon sandal]

the guy who posted that retroid github repository, has some interesting posts

https://x.com/tj_style/status/1414899792564482050/photo/1

Teguh Sobirin (@tj_style)

Mi Mix2S, join the WoA. #WoA #EDK2 #RenegadeProject

X · Jul 13, 2021, 10:49 AM

[grim hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/surprised-sorprendido-shaquille-oneal-gif-23222312

nice catch

I guess it doesn't come as a shock that somebody that worked on the Odin 1 Vallhalla multiboot is also involved with Retroid

[halcyon sandal]

true

[grim hornet]

but I didn't know Vallhalla was actually coming from one of their (AYN/Retroid) engineers

thought it was a hobby project by some random guy

maybe it's a freelancer that AYN/Retroid contracts

[halcyon sandal]

https://github.com/AYNTechnologies also published all of Ayn's public repositories

[tired dock]

if a device is patched to work with this RDS, will it still work in correct orientation when connected to other external screens such as a monitor/tv?

[halcyon sandal]

only one way to find out

[azure comet]

The DS is not working with non Retroid Pocket devices after they fixed the lag issue

[unkempt sage]

so my RDS is apparently in the hands of local post (according to 4px) , but local post still has it as "waiting to pickup" 😄

these inconsistensies are always funny

[honest zealot]

My rds has finally shipped!

[sinful pewter]

Do you have one ?

[azure comet]

I have one Aya Pocket Ace and was going to purchase the RP DS, but not for now

[sinful pewter]

Ok, thanks

Does anyone have a RP DS + an ace ?

[tawny moth]

A lot of people still waiting on their ace it seems.

Android doesn't support dual screen but default so...

[spice nymph]

Got my tracking info today!

[unkempt sage]

aya shipping is kinda pain

they are already shiipping thr pocket ds to reviewers , while they still havent finished shipping of Ace, Pocket S2, Flip 1S and probably some other one too

[broken turret]

my ACE shipped in the first batch and Pocket S2 gone out a whooping six weeks after the first units got shipped

[paper mural]

didnt' even realize my rds shipped

[teal heath]

Can anyone help me with the MiniV2 setup? I've set the output mode to RDS, but the aspect ratio on the external display stays the same. I don't know how to get different aspect ratios without the mirroring option.

[grim hornet]

on the home screen that's normal

you have to launch an app that utilizes the second screen for the different aspect ratios to apply

[broken turret]

still looks pretty janky

they really should have made a different cable, like a double angle on the top port or something to make this less obnoxiously long

[proper sky]

I'm just a simple man, its good enough for me 🙃

[foggy sphinx]

The RDS doesn’t quite look like it has become part of the RP5‘s DNA yet

[broken turret]

my biggest issue is with the cable, should have definitely solved that more elegantly

[foggy sphinx]

Wait where is that Ryan Retro post again

[broken turret]

oh boy

they really should have made an S connector at the top

[foggy sphinx]

If anything, that just makes it easier to buy a Thor

[broken turret]

would have made the cable shorter

[foggy sphinx]

I mean it looks fine

For a prototype

[unkempt sage]

tbh i kinda see a different uscase between thw two

but for someone who just wants nds/3ds ... yeah

[broken turret]

ideally the connector for the cable should have been there, while you can remove the screw below it to add a different bottom part to the clip

simple, effective, two cables, one product

and the mess this cable is would also not happen, as you literally only run it for a few centimeter along the back of the device to plug it into the bottom port

arguably more complicated assembly for the Retroid guys, but a much more mature product for us

[teal heath]

thx

[azure comet]

huesos_96 has it already

[sinful pewter]

@distant vortex can you share if your ace + RPDS works ?

I had to enable "Force desktop mode" on my ace to work with my external monitors, but once I did that it worked fine

Before that I had the same squished output like Retro Game corps showed on his video

[distant vortex]

A melonDS-android beta that fixes rotation issue with RDS add-on and touch also works fine

[distant vortex]

It doesn't work out of the box because the screen is rotated, but at the software level, I made it work in melonDS-android, and in the same way, it can be implemented in other emulators as well.

[plush plume]

So was this ever fixed for the RP4Pro or still being worked out?

[unkempt sage]

yes

[limpid frigate]

I hate it

[still oyster]

Sadly, I cannot get my apps to launch on one specific screen using this. All it does is mirror

[feral silo]

Have you updated your machine, and are you holding down on the app before launching it?

[unkempt sage]

Mine is arriving later today so will test

[proper glacier]

@unkempt sage Wrong channel?

[unkempt sage]

Not really.. look at Point 4

[proper glacier]

Ah ok

[feral silo]

Yeah, I think 4 has to do with rotating RDS

[unkempt sage]

Mine should be arriving today so will test ... as I still own old O2 (even though its technically pepared for sale 😄 )

[proper glacier]

Fingers crossed it works

[tidal gulch]

I wonder if this means we'll eventually get an update for the portal too

[unkempt sage]

yes ... hey seems to be testing it with this

[grim hornet]

congrats on getting one with a functioning cable 😂

I've been testing the RDS for the past few days and I'm still undecided if I like it

it's both clunky and cool

[unkempt sage]

havent tried the bigger one yet

but sadly want be able to mess around with it properly until after weekend

[grim hornet]

the eternal struggle of having money for toys but no time for them

[paper mural]

indeed

my rds should be arriving any day now

[unkempt sage]

absolutely

[paper mural]

i haven't been able to do anything hobby related this week cause work and being too tired when i get home 😭

i got a 4 day weekend tho so i plan to nerd out haha

[grim hornet]

sometimes I'll receive a package and it stays there unopened for a week until I can get to it

it took me two months to get around to do the screen swap for the RP Mini because I had to plan in advance for that shit

but fortunately there's always time to shitpost on discord

[unkempt sage]

Odin2 OTA works fine + long cable with O2

[paper mural]

they have a new ota?

i have to update my portal

[tidal gulch]

It's Odin 2 only atm

[paper mural]

i have one of those as well

good to know

[unkempt sage]

Ping Nicole with your serial and she will get it pushed

[paper mural]

thats the only way to get it?

i haven't turned on my og odin 2 since i got my portal haha

i'll have to send her my o2 info this weekend

my rds should be here real soon

[dense cradle]

Hilariously, if they get good compatibility with the RDS on the O2M, I may just cancel my Thor order lmao.

[tidal gulch]

Ayn Never fixed video out on the mini did they lol

[unkempt sage]

Oh forgot the DS

[unkempt sage]

https://tenor.com/view/both-is-good-disney-el-dorado-both-is-good-gif-4375131127046251648

[dense cradle]

Nah, I wanna build a PC sometime this year, and ~$400 back into my big fun budget would put me a heck of ahead on that.

Of course if they don't, then oh well.

I imagine the OTA Nicole hinted at for the O2M is gonna be like the O2 one for the RDS.

[unkempt sage]

Shorter cable with O2

Doesn't work with Portal yet, but fits nicely with the shorter cable too

Sideahot

[turbid terrace]

so, I've had mine for a day and after initially working, I charged my device and now the screen will not turn on at all
anyone else experienced this and know of a fix or am I going to have to ask for a replacement?

[tawny moth]

Seems like peoples cables are the issue. Try another cable to see if it's that?

[grim hornet]

maybe it's a bad cable?

crazy synchronization @tawny moth

[tawny moth]

Great minds think alike 😜

[unkempt sage]

Sanic

[grim hornet]

gotta go fast

now play it with the RP Mini and tell me if you see what I see

[unkempt sage]

cant do mini until after weekend sadly

DS pokeymen look fine too

[broken turret]

that's a odd looking Snivy

[unkempt sage]

Nah looks inline to the gen 4 counterpart

[placid pilot]

So the other devices absolutely need some update to work with it? There’s no way around the weird portrait issue?

[broken turret]

it's not an issue but rather a poorly implemented fix

the board on the RDS was supposed to rotate the image

but that caused delay

so to get rid of that, Retroid removed that and now it gets rotated on the hardware itself

which makes an OTA necessary

it's a really stupid issue, which probably could have easily been resolved by a button press combination on the RDS that activates the build in rotation of the RDS (which arguably would cause delay, but would have made it compatible with non supported devices)

[unkempt sage]

i feel like the community went so nuclear about the issue

that they paniced and rushed in the half solution

[grim hornet]

it does work though

zero lag when used with an rp5 or RP Mini, it'd be beautiful if it wasn't so clunky

[placid pilot]

Is there no way to rotate it via software? Like a forced rotation?

With an app or the such

I keep hoping it might work on my ayaneo ace with some finagling

[grim hornet]

you probably could but it will reintroduce the lag they were trying to eliminate

throwing in some of my pics because why not

my current solution is, uh, not ideal

this is with my own cable + adapters since the official cable came busted for me

but now I can not even put it down on a table unless I detach the cable completely

hoping Retroid will send me a replacement cable because I honestly have no idea what third party cable to use here otherwise, and I looked

[placid pilot]

I was really hoping to use it as a top streaming machine. I guess it’s good I didn’t get rid of my rp mini

[distant vortex]

melonDS-android v0.2.2 is now live!
This update brings better layout control and external display rotation

What’s new:

ROM list updates:
ROM play time now shown in the config screen
Filenames always visible under game titles (setting removed)
Achievements no longer appear on external screen during ROM browsing

External display:
New option to rotate the external screen left great for vertical setups!

Layout editor:
Choose 4:3, 16:9, or Unrestricted aspect ratios per screen
Split “Center screen” into horizontal and vertical centering for better control

Download:
https://github.com/SapphireRhodonite/melonDS-android/releases/tag/0.2.2

Found a bug? Report it here:
https://github.com/SapphireRhodonite/melonDS-android/issues

[flint bridge]

So this would fix the screen rotating issue on non retroid devices?

[distant vortex]

Yup

[flint bridge]

Is there a similar fix for 3ds already?

[distant vortex]

Yup!, I have it on my machine but I will release it later

[distant vortex]

And CEMU in the future

[feral silo]

[flint bridge]

Awesome!

According to the Russ' video if you use the add-on on the 02 Mini it will just press down on the volume buttons which is a shame

[sinful pewter]

Still not working on pocket ace ?

Or is that the 'option to rotate' ?

[grim hornet]

3DS on Surface Duo vs RP Mini+RDS

[sinful pewter]

Audio delay but clean (imo) vs not that clean but good audio

Or maybe is a bug on the SD2 only, no idea

[grim hornet]

it's no contest, 3DS is a much better experience on the RP Mini+RDS

[sinful pewter]

Really ?

Why ?

Oh nvm, just saw SD1 is 855

Vs 865 on the RP mini

And 888 on SD2

[grim hornet]

no, I'm not talking about performance

[sinful pewter]

🤔

[grim hornet]

on the 3DS the bottom screen is always meant to be smaller and less prominent than the top

that is an effect that you get much better replicated on the RP Mini+RDS

it just feels better

[sinful pewter]

Got it

Feels more 'natural' to og console

[grim hornet]

right

actually now that I'm putting them side by side I'm also noticing that the Retroid screens have somewhat more vivid and saturated colors than the Duo

I wasn't expecting that

[tired dock]

The duo was set to full screen or something? Aspect ratio looks off

Edit: oh, the bottom is allowed to maximize the screen while keeping the aspect ratio

Duo is top smaller than bottom and rds+mini is the other way, none replicate the same height/size (excluding aspect ratio difference) of 3DS anyway, if you don't manual resize them.

[turbid terrace]

Most games don't need the screens to match the DS/3DS sizes anyway, and usually have a main screen and an afterthought screen

[grim hornet]

the 3DS is widescreen top, but the Duo is two square (ish) screens, so the top gets black bars there

[tribal night]

You can definitely just scale the bottom to be the right size.
They're AMOLED screens so the black box doesn't feel that bad.

[turbid terrace]

yeah, that's what I'm doing. there's nothing wrong with having a black bar at the bottom of the lower screen, and the top screen showing whatever the primary content shoould be.

eg. Castlevania Dawn of Sorrow, I have the gameplay that would normally be the bottom screen on the top screen, and the map that would usually be on the top screen on the bottom. It's a superior setup to what original hardware could do, and I don't even notice the black bars when gaming

my only real gripes are that my cable seems to be flaky, the housing covers the power button on the Mini (extremely annoying), and battery life is not good. I think I will be picking up an AYN Thor and gifting my Mini V2 and RDS to my brother

[grim hornet]

I think the more I play with this contraption the more I like it

once you get past the clunky aspects of it, it's actually one of the best ways to play DS/3DS today

people are sleeping on this, despite other options like the Thor or the Pocket DS you can still get a lot of mileage out of this addon

[tired dock]

does slight push/press on the cable disconnect the screen like someone was showing?
and for now it only works on retroid device and odin 2 right?

[grim hornet]

I don't know because my cable was busted out of the box and I had to look for a replacement

but the slight touch disconnect case I think was also a defective cable and not the norm

lots of people are encountering defective cables unfortunately but if the cable is good these issues shouldn't be present

only works on the rp5, RP Mini and Odin 2 if you ask for the OTA on their discord yes

[tawny moth]

Janky cables in the first place. Probably bad QC from whoever makes those.

Sorry to hear that 😦

[grim hornet]

I think the first batch in particular rushed the cables

[feral silo]

Should this thread get moved to #1343396047023509656 now that it's out?

[tidal gulch]

seeing this post with a photo inside the screen, Retroid could've moved the board up a bit and had a pop off cover to stick the cable into sorta like how the switch dock works rather than having the port where it is causing a bit of awkwardness in the cable placement

[floral ermine]

So does this or does this not work with rp4 pro?

I never upgraded to the rp5

Didn't see any pinned things about the 4pro

[tidal gulch]

i'm pretty sure they fixed it on the 4 a day or 2 after they cancelled all the pre-orders for accounts with a 4 in the history, i'll try find the post if i can

[tidal gulch]

apparently it will be fixed in an OTA, no idea if this has been released yet or it's still in development https://retrohandhelds.gg/retroid-pocket-4-pro-might-actually-work-with-the-dual-screen-add-on

[old bluff]

it's out

[floral ermine]

Ok sweet thanks!

[floral ermine]

I don't have any desire to risk the Thor hinge but I do like me some ds and 3ds, so this is it for me lol

[tawny moth]

the cable isn't great, maybe theyll source another one

probably not though unless its mass complaints. i guess we'll see.

[flint bridge]

Same with me but idk if this thing will fit right on my Odin 2 Mini. I saw someone say that it pushes down on the volume buttons

[placid pilot]

Any ideas of apps to control external screens?

Cable is pretty good imo.

[old bluff]

there's a special version of melonds that'll rotate the top display, but other than that there's nothing to be done unless retroid releases the firmware to flash the screen back to landscape (& you get the 'special cable' to flash it) or aya neo updates their firmware with a portrait video out mode (which probably won't happen)

[feral silo]

It'll only work for emulators meant to do it, such as the Azahar fork (soon to be in main) or the MelonDS fork (also working on being in main).

[merry knot]

Damn, so multitasking probably isn't happening then

I ordered one to use on a pocket s

[placid pilot]

I still have my rp mini, but I was hoping to use it with other stuff too :(. I really wanted to use it for streaming

[dense cradle]

Question: if people are getting their RDS, why is this thread still in Upcoming?

[merry knot]

Mods forgot apparently

I hope when they remember it gets a specific channel and not just relegated to retroid chat

This has released but it doesn't really feel like it's actually come out yet

And a lot of the videos on it are already somewhat outdated in terms of setup and compatibility

[placid pilot]

Someone had mentioned that the rp mini get's the volume pressed, but it dooesn't. 😛

[flint bridge]

I need someone to test this on the O2 Mini

[placid pilot]

I have my old one here, but I doubt that it'll be any difference

o2 mini buttons do get pressed

[flint bridge]

Ah that's a bummer

[placid pilot]

sadly the bigger bracket thing is too big for the o2 mini

I don't have other devices, just the rp mini, o2 mini, and the aya ace, so can't try much more, but 2/3 is great

just wish I could make the screen work on the aya ace.

and, I have no clue how to make my rp mini show in 16x9

Anyone know how to make it do 16:9?

[broken turret]

it will only show 16:9 when you start an app on the attachment

[tidal gulch]

I guess since he's the OP we should ping @lament goblet to see if he can move the thread

Don't hurt me for the ping

[flint bridge]

Looks like I'm just gonna have to get a 2ds or base 3ds to play that library cause I'm not gonna pay a premium for a Thor

That was in response to the wrong message

[flint bridge]

Meant for this

[unkempt sage]

Pretty sure that worked me when I tried on my mini aka bottom.rirned of ans rds wide

[broken turret]

while he is at it, he could also move the Pocket ACE

[grim hornet]

it won't do it on the home screen, only if you long press an app and select "external screen" or if you use an app that uses both screens like melonds

[paper mural]

i got my rds in today! waiting for the targeted ota on my og odin 2

[placid pilot]

anyone have a link to the melonds second screen? Also, has azahar seen a version release like that?

[unkempt sage]

https://github.com/SapphireRhodonite/melonDS-android/releases

Azahar already has it implemented in notmal build

but huessos did some improveemnts there too .. so should be in his github above too

[feral silo]

• Azahar main releases support dual screen (additional fork)
• MelonDS Nightly fork supports dual screen
• Cemu experimental fork supports dual screen, though its implementation atm is very confused
• PPSSPP too while we're at it

Azahar and MelonDS are in the process of trying to have their specific forks merged to main

[placid pilot]

does the azahar one support rotating?

[unkempt sage]

not sure if thats in live build, we can ask @distant vortex though

[feral silo]

Fork does, the rotation build is being merged to main

[placid pilot]

At least this works :p

[unkempt sage]

3ds is soo good on the mini

[distant vortex]

Not yet, it will be on 0.0.3 release today

Cemu aswell

Today

[distant vortex]

Azahar v0.0.3 is out now!

This release adds a much-requested feature:
You can now rotate only the secondary (external) screen!

Perfect for devices like the Pocket Ace using the Retroid Dual Screen Add-on

What’s new:

New setting to rotate the external screen independently
Full integration with core emulation and UI settings
Localized for both English and Spanish users

Download:
https://github.com/SapphireRhodonite/azahar/releases/tag/0.0.3