#Miyoo Mini FLIP - A smaller Miyoo Flip

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left urchin
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allium file extensions listed in that chart are a bit odd

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you wont EVER see an ext listed for one system if there are other systems that use that extension

worldly crag
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yeah .mdf is like ancient even for pcsxrearmed standards

left urchin
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Allium first checks the ext, then picks the emu, if not found, it falls back to using the emu designated for that folder

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allium is just set up differently

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i been meaning to clarify the wiki but.... i been busy with spruce and sprig

kind yacht
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no worries, i appreciate the explanation

daring arrow
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for my OCD, the fact that the L and R don't match is what bothers me lol

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if they both suck i wouldn't care as much

kind yacht
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it is pretty odd how it broke on mine, i wonder if i'm missing that consoles.toml

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i seem to have all those bios files

left urchin
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🤣

kind yacht
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i guess this will be good to keep me narrowing down to just my pbp games lol

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for now anyway

kind yacht
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yea, im not sure why it doesn't, still haven't been able to get it to launch anything except my pbps now

narrow pawn
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Does anyone have this

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if so how good is the heat when playing gba

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and how much battery do you get

carmine cradle
daring arrow
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Oh nice koriki on there now

trail mountain
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my handheld arrived in my country (preorder 2d batch)

lavish wolf
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What colour?

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Ordered grey on the 21st still yet to ship

trail mountain
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white

austere ginkgo
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I have asked Myioo about batch 2 and the issues reported here number of times. They have answered very positively.

L1 button

Yes, the second batch of the Mini Flip includes improvements to the L1 button structure, which provides a more consistent response and durability.

Noise with WiFi

Regarding the speaker noise when Wi-Fi is on, our team has also optimized the internal layout to reduce interference, and this issue has been significantly improved in the second batch as well.

Great news !

austere ginkgo
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And about the AliExpress store, bad news.

narrow kite
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Thank you for the update. I figured as much. I do want one but I DEFINITELY can wait

torpid shard
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Just make the transparent blue and I'll buy 10 of them šŸ’™

drowsy rain
plush flame
drowsy rain
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Btw as far as the R & L shoulder buttons are concerned, they both feel horrible on my unit, although the R button was especially terrible, so I opened it up to take a look. I saw that the R button was rubbing up against something causing some marks in the plastic, and from what I could see this slot was too narrow, so I trimmed it a little and now it's on par with my L button. Still shit, but not borderline unusable like before.

Also all the shoulder buttons on my unit actuate much more precisely when they are pressed higher up on the button. Like the top 20% of the button is a 8/10, then the middle is a 4.5/10 and the bottom is a 2/10 in terms of being able to feel the button click.

dusky wind
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Or I just should pull the trigger to 34XXSP. Decisions,decisions..

tawny peak
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does anyone have a better link for the latest miyoo firmware update from their site? the download seems very unstable

tawny peak
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thank you

ebon moat
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I just dumped all my miyoo mini flip stuff there, so CFW, stock os card, firmware, etc.

fresh spade
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Miyoo said second batch will address the shoulder button issues to me in the chat as well. We shall see.

cold burrow
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My mini flip has a tiny bubble in teh bottom left of the screen, looks like an incorrectly applieds creen protector. Emailed them, they said yes, this was a screen protector applied by them and I should try to lift up the corner to see if the bubble goes away. Interesting, since I wouldn't have expected a factory screen protector on a clamshell unit.

torn lynx
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Has to be my cutest purchase so far. Feel like only holding onto it like a novelty item than playing it, unlike the Miyoo Mini Plus which feels playable and sturdy.

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MinUI is perfect for a handheld (feel like calling it a thumbheld) this size.

cold burrow
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It's interesting, some devices feel so polished and modern, and others feel like a toy, which normally I'd think would be a bad thing, but somehow it contributes to the joy of a retro handheld, adding to the old school feel of it, at times.

torn lynx
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Exactly. It's a good thing to hold and admire. But gaming for more than 5 minutes is not something I will do on this.

cold burrow
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I think it's a perfect "I need to kill a few minutes waiting in line" device, even more so than the 35xx/34xx. Beyond that, there are better options

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Still fun, though.

blazing brook
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Shiny hunting on my lunch break

tawny peak
blazing brook
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Crystal Legacy, it's a romhack of Crystal that adds a lot of QoL stuff but still feels like Crystal

tawny peak
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ah gotcha

blazing brook
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Also re-tools gym leader fights to be better, fixes bad level-up learnsets, buffs weaker Pokemon, all sorts of cool stuff

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Nothing too radical tho

tawny peak
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might have to look into that

blazing brook
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It gets a big vouch from me, I don't think I can play vanilla Crystal anymore

blazing brook
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No but I've heard of it, that one and Crystal Clear have been on the to-do list

kind yacht
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since im mostly playing gba when im not on ps1 and that's fine

tawny peak
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for anyone interested in some more battery testing, been playing some more gbc/gba but in onion this time, ive gotten about 2.5h of combined gameplay to half a charge. so, onion seems to use more power than minui. use that info at your own discretion, these are just numbers i am finding through my time of using the device.

hallow crest
kind yacht
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interesting

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i havent specifically timed my allium battery but just off of assumptions it might be a middle point? i usually have 80%~ whenever i exit out

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it seems like any linux device i've had, idling on your front end drains battery FAST compared to actually playing games

misty shore
misty shore
kind yacht
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ahhhh that's interesting

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good to know looking behind the curtain though

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better to not have it on if you're undecided on what to do, i guess

hallow crest
cold burrow
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Allium has retroarch too, and the settings option on the game menu takes you directly there, so it's a nice compromise in my admittedly limited testing so far. Wonder how its battery life will be

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When testing sprig while I loved the feel, i did notice a bit more latency in the UI than the other options, wonder if I imagined that or if it's something that'll improve

misty shore
cold burrow
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Oh, that's good to hear, I'll have to test it out again! Thanks for your work on it, has a lot of potential

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I used to maintain a CFW for a PDA back in the early 2000's, kickstarted my embedded linux career, but haven't done much contribution on present day ones yet. Might have to do that if I can find the time/energy to do so.

torn lynx
cold burrow
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I re-tested sprig just to get more data, my main concern with it was the input latency with the UI navigation. I can rapidly hit the down arrow while scrolling in settings and it only registers some of the presses, and when it does, there's noticeable latency before the movement. Not a lot, but enough to perceive. A rapid press of down 5 times registers 4 at times, for example. In case more details helps.

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That's with 1.0.0, haven't tried building it yet.

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Any consensus on overlays/filters on this device? Seems like jeltron has some, the Perfect_ beta ones that weren't finalized, ozboss posted some, and allanrps posted some rather more complex setups involving cropping/crushing to get to a higher integer scale. Will have to do some testing and comparison, but figured I'd check if there was any consensus on the options, or if i missed any.

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Actually, suppose I should compare the included ones in the firmware options, shouldn't I? that would make more sense than trawling for them manually

ebon moat
# cold burrow Any consensus on overlays/filters on this device? Seems like jeltron has some, t...
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All of these have overlays for the v4, which is the same screen as the mini flip. So they will work perfectly.

cold burrow
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Thanks

ebon moat
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you're welcome

torn pendant
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Mine came today and it's exceeding expectations so far

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Not so much in performance, just in general feel, coolness from the size and flip factor give it bonus points in a very real sense

left urchin
# cold burrow That's with 1.0.0, haven't tried building it yet.

You don’t need to build it, you can actually already OTA directly to our development branch by adjusting the Setting/CFW Settings/OTA Settings options

This is obviously going to be less stable long term than using the release but you can keep up with our progress basically in real time

cold burrow
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Oh, nice, I missed that somehow. I'll try that out

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Thanks

dawn jasper
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Same experience. Glad it isn’t just me.

dawn jasper
drowsy rain
brazen dome
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you can do it!

dawn jasper
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Brothers, I literally flipped how the little rubber grommets were oriented and now my shoulder button issues are gone.

tawny peak
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sometimes the simplest of things can make a world of difference

dawn jasper
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I’m guessing they are directional and some aren’t getting installed correctly in the assembly line.

tawny peak
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its not an impossible problem to have, could happen easily

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glad to hear you found a solution for yourself though

dusky wind
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Welp, just ordered my Miyoo Mini Flip from GoGameGeek.

fierce sparrow
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How are people finding theirs and how is the hinge feeling?

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Debating whether to jump on the bandwagon

last thorn
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I’ve never had a hinge issue with my rp flip 2, v90s, or 35xxsp, so I’m not enough of a critic I think, but I find it extremely nice. It’s not too tight and the close sound is very satisfying.

tawny peak
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The mini flip has become my favorite device to take around with me. Not for its power but its portability, quality and overall experience it provides while gaming

visual basalt
cold burrow
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The size+clamshell is hard to beat for an everyday carry. Really liking it. I love my 35xxsp and my flip2 but I have enough other crap in my pockets to fit those most of the time.

stiff ether
tawny peak
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If miyoo made another compact device, as well built as this in horizontal form factor, like the a30 but made better (a30 always felt cheap to me) and same chipset as the mini series, that’d be likely my near perfect device.

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Until then, the mini flip is as close as I’ve found to perfection in a long time

stiff ether
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If Miyoo Made a Brick Screen Handheld, with the A30 Chip. And this Hinge from the Mini Flip. In a Clamshell. End Game device right there

brisk flare
stiff ether
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It's a 3.2" screen as well, what are you really trying to play on there

brisk flare
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but yeah that's fair

brisk flare
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3.2 is probably on the small side for GC ig

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so fair point

stiff ether
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4", 10:9 screen vs a 3.2", 4:3....

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At some point reading that small text becomes vvveerryyyy difficult kek

brisk flare
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would be really cool to boot up some midrange stuff on such a small device though aaaaaaaaaaaaalolcry

stiff ether
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Dreamcast is a Stretch on Brick for Text heavy games

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And forget PsP FF Tactics WoL

fresh spade
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I LOVE the feeling of the 34XXSP. It is perfect IMO.

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So... Brick screen, Anbernic hinge, Miyoo buttons (FLIP not Mini Flip) and a RK chip?

austere ginkgo
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Are there EU fellows that have already ordered by Gogamegeek or Linxt ? With regular shipping, is it like with other shops using 4PX and we don't pay taxes at the end ?

mild onyx
ebon moat
fresh spade
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I think a clamshells main purpose is a EDC. For at home I am very happy with my CubeXX. šŸ™‚

stiff ether
fresh spade
brisk flare
stiff ether
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Maybe a G1 Gen 2, with a Stick right in the Middle. A la, MyMini style doggylol

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Price, $149

ebon moat
brisk flare
brisk flare
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or is it a bit better

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LOL

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I want a better chip tbf

stiff ether
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Nope

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3326 or g1 gen 2

brisk flare
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it's really frustrating to see the GPU hold it back for some systems

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865 would be nice

stiff ether
ebon moat
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One for everyday and the other to take on long trips where I stay at a hotel for example.

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But I don't want the retroid flip 2, it's too big.

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I want a 4" 4:3 machine.

brisk flare
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yeah I'm never taking my Thor overseas aaaaaaaaaaaaalolcry

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definitely want something that Chris suggested for that purpose

rain nacelle
ebon moat
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A 4" 4:3 clamshell with enough power to run gc and ps2. Basically a retroid pocket classic, but in clamshell form.

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Perfect for travel and trips.

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Something inbetween EDC and main handheld.

ember spindle
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I checked in with their store and the black model I ordered is definitely part of the second wave. They're doing testing on this second batch of product, so hopefully they're looking into the shoulder button issues people have been mentioning

haughty steppe
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tawny peak
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Bugs me how he gives it a hard time over onion when it’s not even fully supported on the flip yet… a little research would’ve done him good there

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Him saying big problems on the thumbnail is greatly exaggerated too… different software would’ve given a much different result

haughty steppe
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yeah... I was surprised at his take as people here generally liked it

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developers

tawny peak
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Like, I agree onion is buggy but that didn’t come out for months when the og mini came out and people liked what it offered, give this one a chance to come out and breathe before you just straight out say it’s bad when every other cfw is good in its own way

tawny peak
stiff ether
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I think he just perfers Cartidges at this point tbh. He loves his Mod Retro, Analog Pocket, etc.

vagrant matrix
austere ginkgo
fresh spade
fresh spade
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I just skimmed this and was like 😬

haughty steppe
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I click through them too, just to view the device - not really minding his opinion because it's whack šŸ˜›

misty shore
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I used to like his stuff too, but I’ve found lately his opinions and priorities in reviewing rarely align with my own. Also he just comes off so jaded now. I miss the playfulness and joy of like his RG Nano review

haughty steppe
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yeah, I can relate

normal brook
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Hey, is this the second batch waiting room?

tawny peak
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heres a question for you guys to pick your brains a bit, why is it when i install stock os on the og card, buttons work as expected but when i format and flash it to another card, the triggers go back to like older firmware and dont work right? same firmware and files exactly. everything shows up right but just doesnt work right

misty shore
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Stock RA config has the shoulders reversed to counteract the original FW having the shoulders reversed šŸ™ƒ

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I’m guessing you might have tweaked the RA config on one but not the other?

tawny peak
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i just copied the stock sd card after flashing the new firmware to my desktop and everything will work fine like that but when i copy it to a better quality card, it like reverses the update. so, i havent adjusted anything on either, i just go to the button mapping in settings and see it doesnt come up right

ebon moat
misty shore
tawny peak
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i can check

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yes, its in the root

misty shore
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There should be a field in there for the button mappings, maybe compare the two of those

tawny peak
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interesting, good to know.. will look into that

dawn jasper
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Sharing retro dodo vids should be a temp ban.

tawny peak
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aftermarket card wont change themes either apparently

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not sure why it hates everything but the stock card

tawny peak
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iritating lol... wouldnt mind trying to run stock os but if its that broken, maybe not lol

normal brook
ebon moat
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10xx

wet scroll
ebon moat
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So i think they sold at least 1,000 units... The question is, how many did they ship? Lol

wet scroll
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not mine yet

ebon moat
austere ginkgo
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Batch 2 is nice because they say it solves the L/R button issues, as well as the buzz sound when the wifi is on.

normal brook
wet scroll
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some miyoo customer support rep on ali

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who knows if it's true or they just say it or they caught it for batch 2 or what

ebon moat
ebon moat
normal brook
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My v2 is tied to my mini order so I’m just waiting for both

cold burrow
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Nice to see the setup guide go up and mention all the major players in the firmware options. Should help new users.

tawny peak
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He saw my comment lol. Don’t know what to tell the guy who commented though.

misty shore
tawny peak
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well, if someone wants to tell him that, feel free... i dont think ive ever tried emulating DS on anything so, i dont have much experience with it lol

fresh spade
tawny peak
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i noticed that

misty shore
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I don’t allow myself to read YouTube comments on videos in this niche anymore lol. I just get myself angry

tawny peak
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i agree, on some videos, some people are so clueless

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or misinformed

cold burrow
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That's my policy on all youtube videos, not just this niche šŸ™‚

paper rose
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I forgot to mention, but I put my first impressions of the Mini Flip out there

fresh spade
paper rose
paper rose
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šŸ”„

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Balling with the Tad Boy color even

fresh spade
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Hahaha. Always need and excuse to share. šŸ˜‰ Picked it up at the Retro Game Convention.

paper rose
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I've considered it but it's just too out of my price range haha

fresh spade
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Fair. I was dreaming of one. And well.... maybe TMI but the RGC weekend was a bit of a "You live once" weekends. It's REALLY cool. I would say worth it for anyone who would think they would use it and cherish it.

paper rose
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Yeah I totally can understand that mindset towards it haha.

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For those that find it worth it, they'll 100% love it

trail mountain
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Preorder order delivered to me !

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That thing is smol !

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L1 doesn't always register

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The sdcard isn't recognized??

daring arrow
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Yea the early batches have an issue with the l button

trail mountain
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it was supposed to be the 2d batch. Apparently not? Is there a way to verify that?

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The provided sdcard can be read by a computer. Not by the handheld it seems...

potent tide
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Check if it’s formatted to exfat

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It should be fat32

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I think some peoples have been coming as exfat and not being detected by the device

trail mountain
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this is the sdcard untouched from Miyoo

potent tide
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Yea I know. Miyoo has been sending them out as exfat when they should be fat32

trail mountain
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I have opened my delivery, taken the sdcard and put it in the handheld

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eh

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okay

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it's exfat

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seems like my "preorder" is a leftover 1st batch

potent tide
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I don’t think second batch has started shipping yet

trail mountain
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now what? I copy the sdcard, reformat it and put it's content back on a fat32 partition ?

potent tide
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Yea, or you could just set up a new card since the stock ones are crap anyway

trail mountain
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I'll put a MinUI on another sdcard yes

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does the firmware need to be upgraded too?

potent tide
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I believe so

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This link maybe

#1372499987606405171 message

trail mountain
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is there a howto do that?

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just take a sdcard in fat32, copy the stuff on it and boot it?

dusky wind
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Does anyone know how long is the waiting time for orders from GoGameGeek?

fresh spade
dusky wind
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I ordered my MM Flip yesterday and I am not sure whether or not I'll get 1st or 2nd batch.

fresh spade
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They’ll claimed to a few people that they are going to address a few things like shoulder buttons, sound, FW and SD card.

fresh spade
dusky wind
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I bought Grey/SNES one

fresh spade
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None of us really know how many they’ve made of this ā€œfirst batchā€

fresh spade
dusky wind
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Oh well. I am in no rush. Hopefully by that time OnionOS devs will implement clamshell support.

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That was a major reason why I got MM Flip. I loved OnionOS on my ex-MM+

fresh spade
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I’m honestly surprised they have preorder up. In the past they only sold stock on hand.

fresh spade
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Lid support will come from them or a PR. Graphic glitch maybe a bit more work and time if ever. But there are plenty of options and lots of interest in the Mini Flip. No shortage of OS options.

austere ginkgo
narrow pawn
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If i turn off wifi would the battery for this device improve

trail mountain
narrow kite
rain nacelle
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I ordered a yellow one

clever lotus
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received mine yesterday

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the hinge feels like a goddamn tank

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I think reviewers understated it

runic bane
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Do yall think theyll do a mini +? I think i would like that size better

blazing brook
runic bane
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?

rain nacelle
# runic bane ?

The dead Mario emoji is just because a Miyoo Mini Flip+ would be too similar to a regular Miyoo Flip

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It's a nice idea though

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MM+ continues to be popular for good reason

runic bane
tawny peak
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This continues to be one of my favorite handhelds for Pokemon amongst other games, I’ve pretty well stopped using my other handhelds to solely use the mini flip

tardy wing
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As much as I like my choice of black for it not standing out, the snes grey flip mini looks really good

fresh spade
tawny peak
fresh spade
misty shore
tawny peak
fresh spade
craggy tapir
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I got black just because the snes color was the one with most hinge issues for the regular miyoo flip. That color looks really nice though

tawny peak
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anyone know how to get wallpapers working on allium?

cold burrow
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Hmm, sprigUI's wireless scan will show the same essid twice if you have both 2.4ghz and 5ghz with the same essid. It should just pick the better one and show that, if the essid doesn't differ.

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Now I don't know which is which šŸ™‚

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(release versin, going to update to the newer builds when i get connected)

clever lotus
cold burrow
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Update: seems like the sprigUI interface latency has definitely improved. I'm still seeing occasional lost button inputs using the dpad, though, and I don't think I've seen that elsewhere, so I don't think it's hardware. Will check.

bitter moss
cold burrow
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That would work too, but only if it shows the frequency details.

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Right now it's both too verbose and too concise, as it lists both, but iwthout enough info to decide between them. Either way would solve it

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(for me, anyway šŸ™‚

bitter moss
cold burrow
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That's the thing, I think most people that intentionally distinguish between frequency bands also use different essids for each to make it possible to choose between them in most software interfaces

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Whereas most consolidate if the name is the same

bitter moss
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I micromanage because our walls have lots of metal and I have to pick bands per room, and I also toss less critical stuff on lower speed channels

ebon moat
tawny peak
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i followed that but something didnt work right when i did it, not sure what i did wrong exactly

wheat ridge
tawny peak
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i dont even know if i have my file set up up correct or not. i think i do but i dont know for certain

wet scroll
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Dear Miyoo, please ship my device soon šŸ™

wheat ridge
tawny peak
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I will dm you and we will figure it out there rather than clogging the chat here

left urchin
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I’ll add it to wiki to fill that section out

tawny peak
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ok

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just finishing a pokemon battle and ill get screenshots of each

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lol

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i pretty much copied and pasted what the wiki said to write etc

left urchin
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How big is that png?

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Px dimensions

tawny peak
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640x480, 256.6kb

left urchin
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@wheat ridge what do you think?

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Maybe change the foreground color to 000000 as well?

tawny peak
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doesnt change anything other than making it impossible to see any text now lol

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got it working

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not sure what i did but redid everything and it now decided to work

left urchin
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Not a screenshot

wheat ridge
# tawny peak

The wallpaper should be #00000000 (8 zeros) if #000000, it will be detected as black instead. Unfortunate formatting on my side

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Glad you made it work

left urchin
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Hahaha

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So he used six 0 instead of eight 0

tawny peak
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i wonder if i typed something wrong on the .json file as well

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would be cool to have a menu on the theme section to be able to pick wallpapers potentially, if thats not too hard to implement

wheat ridge
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I’ll add a new field in the settings to make it easier to select wallapers next release

tawny peak
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haha apparently so

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i have another idea for allium too if its not hard to add on the flip

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on stock and i think sprig, when the battery is low, the charging light flashes to show its low, is it possible to add that to allium as well?

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from like 10% and lower maybe

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handy for those of us who get wrapped up in our gaming and forget to monitor the battery life lol

wheat ridge
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I don’t know how to manipulate the LED, will need to look at how stock does it. I assume sprig is using the stock keymon or whatever is doing the blinking

tawny peak
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just ideas to make things better imo... idk how minui achieves such good battery life but further optimization if possible as well too wouldnt hurt šŸ˜› (not complaining, just observations)

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there is a lot on allium i do like though so, dont think im hating on it... i do like it lol

tawny peak
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does pico8 on allium work the same way as onion on the mini plus? i just saw now it got added but havent tried it yet, currently readding my games and stuff to allium now that i got wallpapers and stuff working

left urchin
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If we could we would have turned it off immediately

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Shaun too

prisma oasis
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What os have people been using on the miyoo mini flip?

tawny peak
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i keep flip flopping between minui, allium and sprig lol, have yet to settle on just one

left urchin
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Onion works mostly but isn’t officially supported on the mini flip

prisma oasis
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Quite a few it seems

left urchin
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Sprig is mini flip only

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The other three will work on the mm, mm+ and mmf

brisk sand
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oh yeah, can someone test that claim about only the headphone dongle that comes included working? like does a generic one work?

wheat ridge
wheat ridge
brisk sand
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well, crap

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i hate the idea of having to rely on the included one when you might lose it or it might be cheaply built and break

pallid pewter
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You need a type c to 3.5 adapter with analog audio support, not with DAC chip like most modern adapters

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For the difference, you could consult AI

magic pewter
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I had another instance of the system falsely detecting the lid closing, while playing. I'm on minui, but I don't think it's the software, since I've had it happen on allium too. Two different devices as well

fresh spade
magic pewter
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It's very infrequent, but yeah. I tried emailing them, but they kind of misunderstood and dismissed it

grim beacon
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Any chance you are moving your flip near something with a strong magnet when it happens? Like the magnets in your phone or in a laptop?

magic pewter
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Nope, just playing it normally

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It's not really consitent, the times it happened today were twice after about 10 minutes of playing, and was maybe a minute apart, then didn't happen again

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Maybe if I get some time, I'll check into how the polling of the lid is implemented

magic pewter
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I mean through code lol

misty shore
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"/sys/devices/soc0/soc/soc:hall-mh248/hallvalue" reports its state

misty shore
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I haven’t had coffee yet šŸ˜‚

magic pewter
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Lmao i know the feeling. Thanks!

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Saved me the trouble looking for it

misty shore
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In stock it’s watched by the keymon binary

cursive pumice
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Anyone have their MMF refuse to mount the card it came with? The card is fine, Android and Windows can read it, and the device is fine, it mounted and read a different card fine. Tried checking for filesystem errors, there weren't any.... not quite sure what's up here.

stiff ether
cursive pumice
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I, wrongfully, it seems, assume the card will work with the device at least initially XD

stiff ether
cold burrow
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I'm wishing I didn't jump the gun, the speaker/wifi interference thing is seriously irritating. Glad I don't need the wifi that often.

rain nacelle
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First I'm hearing of that problem

stiff ether
cold burrow
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Oh, nice, thanks. I'll have to check into that.

stiff ether
cold burrow
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Guess while I have it open I'll have to look at the dpad behavior, it has a slight rattle against the case that I've noticed with mine that doesn't happen with the other buttons

cursive pumice
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Thanks for the tip

rain nacelle
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What's the problem with the speaker/WiFi?

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Does the speaker act up when WiFi is on because they're too close together?

stiff ether
potent tide
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Yea I’d guess it’s some kind of interference. Pretty common on these devices tbh, every device I have from my 35xxH and 34xxsp to my zero28s have some kind of interference caused speaker noise

stiff ether
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It's a Cheap Speaker Problem. I upgraded my RGB30 to Laptop Speakers. Completely removed the Static Noise

rain nacelle
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That sounds great

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I own an RGB20 Pro and the static on that is a huge grievance I have with it

stiff ether
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8 ohm 1w speakers 1.25 jit connectors

These are the single most common ones, just gotta find the ones that will fit in your shell. Do make sure they come with connectors already attached for easy fitting

magic pewter
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I did a speaker mod on the trimui brick and wow was it worth it. Maybe ill try on this one too

cold burrow
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Anyone know the speaker size needed for the mini flip yet? Guess I'll pull it apart and check

ebon moat
stiff ether
# cold burrow Anyone know the speaker size needed for the mini flip yet? Guess I'll pull it ap...

The Miyoo Mini is everyone's favorite tiny device, and in this video I'll show off three potential hardware mods to customize the device even more.

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Redmi Note speaker: https://s.click.aliexpr...

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Figured just linking you to the "Source" doggylol

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And for those who don't wanna Hunt around. This mod also works

cold burrow
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Thanks, appreciate it!

echo seal
cold burrow
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The miyoo mini video advises #8, does #12 fit better for the mini flip?

echo seal
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hang on, the listing has changed, yah 8 in that listing will work, there's a better one in another listing that russ didn't test but the price has gone up

cold burrow
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Quite a difference there!

echo seal
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yah pretty surprising

cold burrow
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I wonder how that #15 compares to that phone one he tested. Though it clearly beats it on availability and cost.

echo seal
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yah i didn't bother getting the sony one, couldn't imagine it being like $15 better tbh, only so much you can do with a speaker that small & i was pretty blown away by the 15 already, sounds better than it has any right to lol

last thorn
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onion still doesn't support close to sleep right?

I just checked the github and i don't see an issue for it, neither open nor closed. https://github.com/OnionUI/Onion/issues

GitHub

OS overhaul for Miyoo Mini and Mini+. Contribute to OnionUI/Onion development by creating an account on GitHub.

misty shore
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No but I have a hypothesis… replace Onion’s custom keymon with the one from Mini Flip stock and I bet it’d work. (May break a few other things though in the process awesomeface ) Should be in the miyoo/app folder

misty shore
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Just tinkering vicariously through you guys lol

tawny peak
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i will take a few minutes to test your idea, just gotta find an sd card to test on

dawn jasper
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I've been playing the v4 and the mini flip back and forth and I really don't know which one I like the most.

tawny peak
misty shore
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I also find mini flip more ergonomic. Better spot to rest index fingers, plus face controls are higher up the chin

tawny peak
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so, there is no keymon file in the same area in the onion filesystem

misty shore
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I’ll track down where they keep it

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One sec

misty shore
tawny peak
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ill give that a shot

dawn jasper
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I just love the clear blue color though haha

tawny peak
misty shore
tawny peak
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it can detect when its being closed if thats what you mean, but still seems glitchy

misty shore
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What kinda glitchy?

tawny peak
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Still getting the screen glitches like this

misty shore
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That’s a separate issue entirely

ebon moat
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Right now they are 640x480 in most themes... which doesn't work on the v4 or the mini flip.

left urchin
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@paper rose can we get this channel moved out of upcoming devices?

hard orchid
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Has anyone got a DIY solution for the clacky d pad

left urchin
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It bugs me too lol

stiff ether
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Not trying to be mean, just being honest

hard orchid
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Yea no I get you

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I’m thinking of some electrical tape where a few of the plastics meet. I’ll let you know how it goes

stiff ether
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Best of Luck, I'm in the Live with it stage. Waiting for someone smarter or Braver than me to figure it out kek

cold burrow
# hard orchid I’m thinking of some electrical tape where a few of the plastics meet. I’ll let...

Something like that will probalby do, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYGS9zlUG38&t=1050s has a bunch of different options for different handhelds, though not specifically this one, I'm hoping something like those will work here. it bugs me too, the clack/rattle sounds so loud and hollow against the case

Handhelds can be really noisy, with loud and clacky buttons. In this video, I'll explain why buttons can be loud, and how to fix them with a few simple, non-destructive mods!

GitHub link for 3D files: https://github.com/whatobiplays/silentbuttonmods

Tools I used:
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Kapton tape: https://amzn.to/456bOsg
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hard orchid
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I’ve put a tiny bit of tape to hold the rubber membrane slightly tighter and it works a bit

tawny peak
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Discovered we had some of the ā€œgoodā€ packaging tape at home that I learned last year resists scratches nicely so, made myself a screen protector for the flip… not 100% perfect but pretty darn close

hard orchid
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Upgraded speaker is also working well. It has a similar issue to the stock speaker, where it never fully turns off even at minimum volume. A bit of a hiss too at very low volume, but when you actually want to listen to it it sounds way better

cold burrow
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Nice. How's the behavior with wifi enabled vs stock, did you run into interference with either?

hard orchid
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I did have crackling when charging with the original speaker. It seems to have fixed that

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I'll turn on wifi and test stuff out

fresh spade
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Let the tinkering begin. šŸ˜‚ Made a pak/app to control the display for MinUI and Sprig!

tawny peak
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i just moved everything from minui to allium and now youre gonna pull me back to it

fresh spade
tawny peak
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i like both for different reasons

cold burrow
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At this point I have an sd card each for minui, allium, and sprig, since i can't decide, but now my saves and states are mismatched between them šŸ™‚

tawny peak
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minui for the battery optimization, allium for the extra customization but that adds customization i wanted to have on minui

left urchin
misty shore
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I can't imagine it would be hard to adapt

fresh spade
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It crashed Allium

misty shore
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my guess - LD_LIBRARY_PATH differences

fresh spade
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When I go to try and select it in apps. Not even trying to launch it

misty shore
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linking against a different version of SDL or something

fresh spade
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Can you not just freely add apps in Allium?

left urchin
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i thought you could?

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its similar to minui .pak setup

fresh spade
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Hmm.. OH he uses a config.json as well!? Let me try adding one

magic pewter
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Really glad i bought these speakers years ago lmao

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still got a hum at no volume, but it sounds better quality

fresh spade
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Yeah that was it. Wants that config file

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But hmm.... Allium has it's own screen settings. No need for my app

manic saddle
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Allium has been great so far for me. it's super nice opening it, loading right back into the game, and closing to shutdown

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do yall get the new speakers to be louder, or better sound quality?

hard orchid
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The normal speaker also has a hum at 0 volume too?

hard orchid
manic saddle
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that's fair. i've never had an issue but i mostly play gba which had an even worse speaker

magic pewter
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It's not as noticable of a difference on this, than it was on the trimui brick

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but it was a 5 minute thing with no soldering, so I figured why not

hard orchid
manic saddle
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and mostly play very quiet or sounds off cause work

magic pewter
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Brick was a pain honestly, had to cut some of the plastic frame around the buttons

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It's not a drop in replacement like this

tawny peak
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I will see if i can find it online

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but ive used it on a few devices like my old 28xx in the past and i took that all over and rarely found a scratch on it, almost like it self healed so, im hoping that will be the case for the mini flip as well

tawny peak
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not seeing it online but its a more durable packing tape

hard orchid
clever notch
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Got my mini flip finally. The size/ergonomics on this are great. More comfortable than mini v4.

L1/R1 suck as people have mentioned (especially L1). And the d-pad is disappointing coming from a mini v4 šŸ™

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Games like golden axe, street fighter 2, TMNT2, etc, are definitely not as pleasant compared to a mini v4

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But the form factor is undeniably great and face buttons are nice. Very little travel but they feel responsive and easy to press quickly

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I guess i'll mostly stick to RPGs on it

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Platformers are good too since not many diagonals

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It's just harder to move left/right very quickly or do diagonals like you do in fast fighting games

austere ginkgo
clever notch
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batch 1

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i bought all 4 colors (gifts) and recieved the white and pink

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Mostly testing the pink so far

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Gray/black are batch 2 so still waiting

fresh spade
echo seal
tawny peak
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Just ordered a new speaker upgrade plus better screws for the mini flip from etsy... looking forward to hearing how it will sound afterwards

dawn jasper
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Better screws??

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Are people just marketing anything and everything on Etsy now?

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Better screws don’t sound hand crafted hahaha

ebon moat
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4 screws at $5... I mean seriously?

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I mean these things are so cheap the original screws will probably last longer than the device itself, lol.

stiff ether
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I feel judged

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I ordered those because they were black to fully make my whole RGB30 Black/Yellow since they were the only "Silver" Part sticking out at me....

ebon moat
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You could have gone to a hardware store and picked them up for a much smaller fraction of the price.

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But as long as your happy, that is all that matters in the end.

tawny peak
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finding a good hareware store around me isnt exactly easy lol, i kinda live in the middle of nowhere

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if i wanted to travel about an hour or so maybe but then im spending as much in gas

cold burrow
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Hmm, off-topic, but is there really no way to get Skraper to stop re-downloading existing artwork if it's not in its short-lived cache? Maybe I should just use Skysraper or an on-device scraper instead. I'm tired of having to re-scrape my damn library for every new device i buy.

tawny peak
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misread... but can you not save the pics to a spot on your pc and just keep copying from there

cold burrow
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Yeah, that's what I'm wanting to do, but I have a few that are missing, and Skraper wants to re-download the entire damn thing instead, unless i copy them to a separate folder to scrape from

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Was hoping it'd just get the missing ones

tawny peak
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for the few that are missing, would it not be easier to find them online and resize/name them yourself?

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then add them to the proper folders for later

cold burrow
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I'm wanting to be thorough, and I have like 42 missing manuals, 10 covers from this one, 3 from that one, etc across the systems. So not quite as trivial as a few here or there. Might have to resort to that, or just let it rescrape over a couple day period or something. Could also use Skyscraper I suppose, but it's a lot more limited

tawny peak
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ah gotcha, when i do it, i only do the front cover and no manuals etc, that would take a lot longer

cold burrow
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Yeah, makes sense. if it was just for this one device in minui or something it'd be super trivial

tawny peak
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wont have the manuals but should have the pics at least

cold burrow
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That's a good idea, would at least fill in the cover/screenshot/titlescreen gaps

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I was looking at exodos/exoscummvm/etc collections and they really have a nice art setup. There are folders like "Box - Back" "Clear Logo" "Fanart - Background" "Screenshot - Game Over" etc, was thinking I might structure my local archive like that, and just map that into the es-de/es/whatever format for each device

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There's even "Advertisement Flyer - Front"

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with numeric suffixes for more than one, i.e. -02, -03

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Not sure I care enough to want to curate something like that, but it's cool

tawny peak
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hopefully i was able to help a bit lol

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only got up like 20 min ago lmao

cold burrow
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Absolutely, thanks.

stiff ether
dawn jasper
dawn jasper
# stiff ether I feel judged

Wasn't a dig on you. I was just more dissappointed in what the platform has become. They used to actually take pride in being a market of individual creators. Now, it is just another free for all with very little curation.

stiff ether
left urchin
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Will folks that have customized the colors of allium please send me your stylesheets??????

Looking into adding some default theme options for the next release and would love to include user submissions!

misty shore
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Sundoublecrosser Sport adin_knives_out

stiff ether
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I use Default kek

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I'm so damn lazy

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I just wanna Play Games

ebon moat
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I wanted something pretty while I pick my game, lol.

magic pewter
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I've been enjoying mine, great for pickup and play of mole mania

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Integer scale doesn't really matter much to me on a resolution this fine

idle kayak
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I'm between using Sprig and Onion on my, i can't decide

idle kayak
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Hmm I might have a second sd card for it haha

left urchin
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Just try both

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Sprig is for the mini flip only btw

idle kayak
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I love my mini flip lol

left urchin
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Allium MinUI and koriki are also options

visual basalt
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i think ive settled on allium

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very nice to use and quick

tawny peak
left urchin
left urchin
# visual basalt ooooo nice

If you set up your allium card all custom like send me the style sheet if you want to contribute a potential theme option for an upcoming release

visual basalt
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really only changed the highlight color and buttons tho

empty kernel
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Have the Onion devs got their mits on this device yet? Excited to see what they do, but heard no murmurs on rg handhelds's discord yet. Would need a bit of updating to latest cores and whatnot though.

paper rose
empty kernel
# paper rose

My mind went straight to the 5 guys 1 girl meme. Time to have a bit of a break from the internets.

paper rose
tawny peak
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Hey @paper rose, any chance of moving this thread to the released devices now that its out?

misty shore
cold burrow
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Hmm, do the onion ports work on the other firmware images, or are their library path issues?

misty shore
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I haven't tried tbh, but if there's library issues they'll be solvable if you can track down which libraries the ports are crying for

cold burrow
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True.

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Not a priority really, given the screen size a lot of them wouldn't make sense, but some of the sonic ones, zelda3, etc should run fine. probably the super metroid one, though might have to build that one from scratch.

left urchin
misty shore
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Major Changes

  • The UI now runs faster and smoother, with things like changes to volume and brightness reflecting immediately instead of after a delay.
  • Replaced keymon with our own watchdog scripts for greater customization of button, lid, and battery behavior.
  • Added the Game Nursery, an over-the-air downloader for free homebrew games for a variety of platforms.
  • Added display settings for brightness, contrast, saturation, hue, and independent red/green/blue balance (thanks @fresh spade!).
  • Improved boxart optimization algorithms that better balance size on disk and render speed.
  • Implemented variable time settings to safely auto-shutdown your device after closing the lid.
  • Added options to disable wifi while in game or while in pseudo-sleep, in order to save battery.
  • Added options to enable or disable ADB, SSH, Samba, and Telnet access to your device.
  • Added ability to exit boxart scraper early by pressing the MENU button; also various under-the-hood scraper improvements.
manic saddle
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gotta get out another sd card to have this one on šŸ‘€

empty kernel
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Isn't easy enough to delete the needed and replace the needed folders and maybe tweak the rom folder names when moving from one cfw to another? They're largely the same file structure.

left urchin
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I think all the CFW for the mini flip uses a ā€œBIOSā€ folder

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And ā€œRomsā€

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So just need to edit the individual Roms folders names

empty kernel
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Should salvage your saves too obviously.

manic saddle
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I just don't want to overwrite my allium sd card in case i want to go back to it

left urchin
brazen dome
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Can you overclock this? I want to use the other PS1 core (swan) since it has better support for a feature I want but it's slower than rearmed but like 5-10%. On onion os

runic bane
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i heard the left shoulder button is broken on some devices, is that true?

left urchin
runic bane
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oh i misremembered

dawn jasper
# runic bane oh i misremembered

It is difficulty to actuate unless you press it near the front edge. I think it has something to do with the plastic mold or the rubber gasket. It isn't the switch itself.

wet scroll
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Approaching the middle of November but still no shipping šŸ™

bitter moss
fresh spade
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Honestly I hope they do revise it and delay batch 2. You will all be happier. I know it will be a longer wait... but worth it IMO

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So yeah we do belong in upcoming devices. 😬 🤪 🤣

wet scroll
bitter moss
fresh spade
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Both of my units have the issues.

misty shore
fresh spade
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Not unusable... but could be better

misty shore
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I mean really it almost never will pay off to be an early adopter of any of these devices, Miyoo or not

fresh spade
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Even Anbernic with light bleed issues and... well list goes on

bitter moss
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suboptimal

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but decent for the games I'm playing on them

fresh spade
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If you don't use shoulders and upgrade the speaker things are OK/Better on this first batch

bitter moss
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I mean, none of my GC games run, but that was probably something I expected in a dream

fresh spade
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I have mine in my front pocket daily and am in love with it. Flaws and all. It's my favorite Miyoo device to date.

brazen dome
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Allium vs onion OS?

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Any reviews of this?

tawny peak
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stability wise allium all day, feature wise onion

fresh spade
# brazen dome Allium vs onion OS?

Allium is a complete custom ground up OS/UI. It looks like MinUI but uses RetroArch and an in-game menu like MinUI/Stock MainUI. It is very snappy and faster than Onion mainly because Onion is using and bound by stock MainUI. If you like the look of MainUI/Stock/OnionOS and the OnionOS GameSwitcher then I would recommend Onion. If you Like MinUI look/feel and in-game then I say Allium. You can customize Allium colors and add wallpaper as well vs MinUI where you can't. Think of Allium as sort of MinUI look but with RetroArch and in-game menu for save and load states. However it is not minarch like MinUI in that you need to be comfortable with RetroArch for things like overlays and other configs.

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Now.... to throw a wrench in the works. There is sprig by the spruce team and mainly Ry. That has the look/fell of OnionOS/MainUI but with some additional features and is getting better daily. So I would say check that out as well. Honestly... try them all. It's worth it IMO to find the one you connect with the most to enjoy your Mini Flip.

brazen dome
fresh spade
fresh spade
left urchin
fresh spade
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Yeah.... I spent all day today on a feature for MinUI that is compatible for Brick/H700/Mini series/Flip

paper rose
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It's time y'all.
The Miyoo Mini Flip has it's own thread now