Patapon

[blazing basin]

I don't wanna march through this world, I want to leave a wake of destruction

[ivory swan]

unrelated: red crab boss can eat shit

you can use the retreat song at the right time, but because your beat is like a half-measure off compared to the boss's, your pons come running back just in time to get yote

You know I just had a realization regarding don dondon dondon and how some people struggle with it

are there people who've never had that 3/4 single double-time double-time pattern playing in their head before?

because if so, that might explain it

I feel like don dondon dondon is just a rhythm everyone has had thumping in their brain at some point in their life

but maybe that's not the case

[round rune]

I have no idea what you're talking about and the don dondon dondon is kicking my ass, so your theory checks out

If I was playing on an actual PSP and didn't have save states, I think I'd genuinely have to drop the game because of that. Everything else is perfectly fine

[ivory swan]

You've never drummed that pattern on a table or desk before?

[round rune]

I mean, I've hit pencils on a desk, with no idea of what I was doing

I've never taken music classes or anything of the sort, I have no rhythm

[ivory swan]

I haven't taken music classes either

[round rune]

Well, idk what 3/4 single/double patterns or any of that is, so skill issue I guess

I'll just have to continue save stating and loading a dozen times until it just happens somehow. Truly suffering lol

No clue cause the tree mini game has a similar pattern and it's perfectly fine there. But in a mission? I'm cooked

[ivory swan]

Do you have your graphics buffering turned off? I think by default, PPSSPP is set to 2 frames of buffering, which is another word for tolerating input lag

you want zero tolerance for any input lag you can possibly eliminate

[round rune]

I'm not sure, I'll have to check. PPSSPP settings is whatever the default EmuDeck installs, playing on my Deck. I did find a post that said to disable frame limit in the Deck's settings and that helped immensely, but I haven't taken a look into PPSSPP's settings since the game is fine other than that single command that I can't seem to get the hang of

But I'll check next time I play

[ivory swan]

Yeah, I'm on RP3+ and by default it had two frames of graphics buffer. which is a big ol' fuck no

[ancient talon]

I beat it on a psp go. Skill issue

Lol jk but it wasnt bad

[round rune]

I'm bowing to your superiority 🙇🏻‍♂️

Clearly I need to get back into a HS desk with some pencils in my hand and get to work drumming

[steel canopy]

Idk it imma finish this game is so ear grading after awhile I truly can't play for more then an hr or 2 with out feeling like I'm going insane

[queen mural]

Finally! Sweet mercy! It’s over! I’ll hopefully submit screenshot tomorrow. Let me know if anyone wants to see my final group/army and I’ll pull it up long enough to get a picture and then spit on the screen…

[queen mural]

It felt like there were a couple bosses with a half measure off. Like their attack cue would be one measure in so you have to predict their attack not respond to it. Since they all cycled through patterns that wasn’t terrible. It still felt awkward.

[ivory swan]

Part of the issue here is that there's no way I can time the retreat, because my pons are either too late or too early

Retreat lasts for too short of a window to last until you're next able to use the retreat song, creating a window where your pons can get rekt

[queen mural]

I didnt learn retreat, or soups, or apparently some other things

[oblique hatch]

How many jujus you get?

[queen mural]

I think 2 miracles. Rain and tailwind

[ivory swan]

Some of the minigame pons are a bit of a bitch to find

But so far, you seem to find the missable ones in hunting missions. If you get a hunting mission and didn't get a minigame pon from it, check it carefully, consider trying it in different weather, etc.

There's one that's especially annoying because you can get faked out ||you get a thingie for doing the thing in the hunting mission, and then you have to do the hunting mission again when it seems like you already got whatever there is to get||

[ivory swan]

groans.

goddamn this crab is the worst

I used my retreat song at the correct time, and then my pons came running back just in time for one of them to get permayote

[ivory swan]

Morbid curiosity: what do people favor for megapons?

I think for dekapons I'd do reds just for the speed boost, but megapons idk about

[tiny tundra]

Tiku or mogyoon

[round rune]

I still haven't met the doot sons, I await their arrival

I haven't tried the dekas, and mostly ignored the kibas since people here seemed to not favor them much. I did have to make some basic kibas for that last meden kidnapped level, tho, their speed seemed to help with that mission

[tiny tundra]

Kibas are insanely mid.

The Doots however. Amazing unit.

[round rune]

Are they the next to unlock, I assume?

[tiny tundra]

If you just got club lads, yea.

[round rune]

Finally got the star mission, I think, so might grind up a good bit of gold for the doots when they arrive

[tiny tundra]

Oh then yea. You're pretty close

[vale current]

I finished a few days ago and now have a patapon sized hole in my heart

Really wanna start the second one

[ancient talon]

Had you had much experience with Pata prior @vale current ?

[vale current]

Never used doots. Was way too invested in tatepons by the time I unlocked them. Did a lot of grinding for tatepons

[tiny tundra]

Thats fair.

[ivory swan]

Hmm. I don't have many horns, so something with a damage boost like Gekolos is tempting, but I imagine the math changes as the horns come in

Also having a rough time collecting iron for the smith minigame. Do I need to play with Rumble Thump and just deliberately fuck up a tune?

[blazing basin]

Done! Yep, this one still rules. Never bothered with making any Kibapons, Dekapons, or Megapons.

[steel canopy]

talk about barly fucking serviving

[steel canopy]

this fucking worm

imma crash the fuck out

[split crystal]

Man, I’ve been stuck on Legendary Night Sky for way too long now. Got reasonably upgraded groups of axe and bow guys, and am using the best stew, but nothing seems to work. If I stand and fight, my archers can’t quite kill all the troops before he breaks through. If I lure him away, he takes forever to bring down and my remaining troops can’t handle the enemy troops.

[weak abyss]

a bit of wind might help you... I had to call it a couple of times in the level

[vale current]

Yeah go with the wind for that one

Might save your Tail

[split crystal]

As per usual, griping about things on the internet solved the problem, and I beat it on the next try without really changing anything, other than maintaining fever a bit more consistently. I had previously tried tailwind, but it just didn't seem to last long enough to be worth the effort and giving up fever for.

[topaz gate]

Back into this after completing the rest of the games, hopefully I can still get through it before the end of the month

[thorny ermine]

Oi!!!

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!

[grand arrow]

Okay I'm stuck on getting the wind miracle. AFAIK I need to kill the gold ostrich thing, but the damn thing never sits around long enough for me to approach, much less attack it

[round rune]

Are you going into the mission with your axe boys? You should definitely leave them behind and only rock your spears/bows, ideally being in fever before you approach, and hit him from range before it knows what hit it

POV: you are the gold bird

[grand arrow]

Ah okay I'll give that a go. I knew not to bring them on hunts in general but the crabs got me feeling like I needed them for survival

[steel canopy]

Lord im so bad at this game

Nothing make sence

[thorny ermine]

DON DO-DON, DO-DON!!!

https://tenor.com/view/super-saiyan-soccer-coach-angry-football-anime-gif-4390388

FEEEEEEVAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!

[tiny tundra]

[thorny ermine]

The rhythm of battle got to me! Totally appreciated this for GotM because of its unique gameplay - something I'd always heard was good but never got around to playing. Well, I played the shit out of this...

While the rhythmic tides of battle were a hoot to get into, I did start to notice a distinct lack of actual music in this game. It would be good for my lil' guys to be "PATA PATA PATA PON"ing to more obviously different tunes with different tempos

[round rune]

Just beat the volcano level and finally unlocked the doots

Am I missing a minigame? There's like a mountain between the farmer and chef that makes it seem like there should be another minigame there

[tiny tundra]

Yea, the mountain baby lol

[round rune]

I just looked it up and got it, why am I playing with a mountain baby's toes?

[tiny tundra]

Dont worry about it

[round rune]

Put a lot of time in today and made a lot of progress, I think I'm up to mission 29-30 now, so I'll hopefully be able to wrap it up tomorrow, assuming no rough roadblocks 🙏

[steel canopy]

This game truly rubs me in the way they makes me wanna quit🤣

What ya lost ya guys again and did not get there helm...hope ya like grinding a food level again and again and again and again to get them back.

https://tenor.com/view/kill-neil-patrick-harris-barney-kill-yourself-finger-gun-gif-16929199

[zenith bay]

Or just reset if you don't save someone. Why grind many levels when you can just git gud?

[steel canopy]

I dont think reseting the game was a dev choice. Exiting the level was but tht does not save ya dead bros. So if talking about a game imma stick to devs choices over work around tht were not the intended way to play🤣

So let me examine. || Question what was intended as the punishment if a patapon dies and ya dont get helm back? Answer - patapon is dead as shown both by he/she does not come back and the lost helm stat at the end of a victory.

Ok what is the games solution to said punishment? answer - grind levels ya played already to get enough patapon crafting materials and that world equivalent to money to refill army.

in a game that is already relatively repetitive as its click right 4 botton combo is right timing to do a war chant that ya have prob heard over 200 times by level like 7. To add this level of grinding as the punishment for mistakes to make it even more repetitive is is not exactly peak design 🤣 ||

[grand arrow]

I think I finally have to grind for better units and equipment. I keep getting pushed back by dekas on the windmill level

[steel canopy]

i cant beat this worm lol

[ivory swan]

I need to grind for better spears because I got fucked on those and it's coming back to bite me in the ass

I have three steel spears and three iron spears. That's it. No fire spears or anything. Lots of fire bows and sleep swords, but my yaris, which should be functioning as a powerful damage engine, just ain't got the juice atm

[steel canopy]

i think im done idk

this game ant for me

[ivory swan]

Fought the blue dragon again and got my first fire spear

Feels like my dekapons kinda suck tho?

They don't seem to do a great job of staggering the boss or anything

[ivory swan]

Ask and ye shall receive I guess. Dragon dropped two scorching spears this time

[round rune]

I must've got lucky with the fire weapons, I think I got like 2 spears and 3-4 bows just playing through. I haven't really gone back to refight bosses much yet (assuming that's how you farm drops?)

[ivory swan]

I got lots of fire bows just from Zigotons, yeah. Not a lot of good spears. But yes, you can get more weapons as boss drops

I've reached the point where I reload of a boss doesn't drop at least one actually good item, as opposed to just a Tytanium or Hinoki

[round rune]

I've done it, I finished Patapon

Took me like 13h because I'm bad, but it is done. Good game, I'll miss my savage children

I'll have you know, I took like 3 days off and came back and could just do the DON-DONDON-DONDON without changing anything, so complaining on the internet worked again. Classic

Here are my sons before their final battle

[vale current]

Me the past few days after finishing the game

[round rune]

I fear the same

[sterile bluff]

I just see a flashing white rectangle everywhere I look

[zenith bay]

As long as you don't have a FEVER after playing it

[tiny tundra]

[steel canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/skillissue-skill-issue-gif-22125481

Me to me

[steel canopy]

@tiny tundra I can't belive im asking for help and its against all of my being but dear god how do I handle this worm boss. Iv tryed so many things and im holding fever almost the who fight and still just die

I can't belive im getting fucking filtered by patapon

[tiny tundra]

Defend on the stretch out, try to max range it.

[steel canopy]

Its truly the stupid ass slam attack out here taken mutable patas with it on ever slam🫠. I guess I just fight ti close to it ill give it a try but like even like full chaka chaka panta pon seemly is like get fucked🤣

[steel canopy]

I appreciate the help

[thorny ermine]

Utilize tailwind miracle to keep your distance and don’t be afraid to break your Fever if the attack timing dictates - probably the most brain-breaking aspect of the game for me: intentionally sacking the beat to make sure I PON-PATA-PON-PATA at the right time

[steel canopy]

I gernally dislike this game. For reasons iv put over a few days here lol. And I dont have a pon-pata-pon -pata

I have

Pata-pata-pata-pon
Pon-pon-pata-pon
Chaka-chaka-pata-pon

Don-dondon-dondon

[steel canopy]

But do appreciate the advice

[thorny ermine]

Ah ok my bad then yeah would rely on the tailwind and the advice to break fever if you need to adjust the timing of your defense still applies

I found that Chaka Chaka Pata Pon is most effective with Tatepons in the party (don’t remember what units are available at that stage)

[steel canopy]

No need to apologize

And fair if the breck fevor did think about tht before but was like the damage increas with fevor is alot.

[steel canopy]

I have the 1st 3 types idk of therr is more i also no how to make the better version of them but like they dont even seem to help

Purple and orange versions

[thorny ermine]

it's true - the damage increase is a lot. But you'll get it back quickly - and chances are, if you need to break your fever to adjust timing to the boss patterns, once you've broken it to adjust once you should be good for a while (on rhythm with the boss' attacks)

[steel canopy]

I mean ya tht makes sence. I really just can't get over the punishment for losing pontapons if ya dont get there helm🤣. Its lives rent free in my head tht ya have to grind levels ya already did to get money back. Too repetitive

Its also kinda silly tht a best option is to breck a combo in a game tht teaches to combo. Spit in face of own macanics some more🤣

[steel canopy]

love that the || the fire breath and the slame have the same starting annimation...so fun||

[steel canopy]

ok i grinded a full army if i cant beat this boss now i swear

and still died lol

i beat it thjt did not even feel good lol

[thorny ermine]

How many hunting grounds are available to you?

Also GGs on beating it! That worm sucks

Did you happen to have the “creatures of the sand” hunting ground available to you before you fought the worm?

[steel canopy]

I think so i now have 3 but I mostly use the 1st one cause I seem to get most money from it

[steel canopy]

Ya tht worm will live rent free for awhile

And thanks

[blazing basin]

I swear someone from Yetee is in this server, cause GOTM games keep coming up

[vale current]

https://tenor.com/view/phineas-and-ferb-doofenschmirtz-if-i-had-two-nickels-gif-8492318790274198203

[steel canopy]

o great now i have to get a cart all the way to end of level... I just love escort mission in games...

[steel canopy]

ya im done

[oblique hatch]

don’t use any fire weapons on that level if you decide you’re not done

[steel canopy]

i did not

i hate escort missions

and this one is even more annyoing then normal

[oblique hatch]

Yeah it’s not great

[steel canopy]

love when its getting hit off screen and ya cant reallt do anything to stop it

its so fun

[ancient talon]

But how many times have you heard the priestess scream?

Thats the real fun part

[tiny tundra]

[steel canopy]

I won't here it ever again cause this one i quit. I can't take the pata, pata, pata, pon anymore. Hereing it in sleep

[ancient talon]

Lol I appreciate you giving it a fair shot

[steel canopy]

Ill prob play tonight 🤣🤣

[tiny tundra]

We found JCs breaking point

The king has fallen

[oblique hatch]

have you considered save states? runs

[steel canopy]

I'd frist actually quit

[steel canopy]

Now imma beat it

Thts it

[oblique hatch]

there's that fire! go get em

[tiny tundra]

Ill believe it when I see the completion screen

[split crystal]

Finally unlocked megapons, but didn't really get how they work. I had made a couple of hedgehogs, but I'm now thinking that was a mistake, as the base damage is so low that they'd probably benefit more from something with a flat damage boost.

[tiny tundra]

The damage number is misleading tbh, because when theyre in fever the notes they fire deals damage the entire time its up.

So it just racks up a ton of damage really fast

[split crystal]

Ah, interesting. It felt like I wasn't getting all that much damage out of them, even in fever. Doing 1 damage over and over still takes forever to add up. Tried the gate mission several times and couldn't get through it. In any case, I reloaded a previous save and am going to try to get the materials for a mogyoon version instead.

[tiny tundra]

Mogyoon Megas are a pretty nutty power spike.

[thorny ermine]

you can also use barebones megapons to get a pretty great money farm going in Creatures of the Sand

something like 1200-1500 kaching per hunt, which was massive

[grand arrow]

Almost completed the gon battle but was down to just arrows and they weren't hitting him enough when he got close

[steel canopy]

alright lets try again whats the worse tht can happen

cant wait to be back here in about 10 min bitching

[steel canopy]

love tht it feel;s like the only reason i bea tthe convoy misstion was pure rng

ugh this get worse into of better

[steel canopy]

how the fuck do i bea the level with the catapulte ya get tht just dies before it can take down there defenses no matter how long ya combo

[round rune]

I got the catapault just barely in range and spammed the defend command while the catapult and range pons could still hit the castle. Wind blessing helps

But I think that one also took me a few attemps because they were killing my catapult lol

[steel canopy]

i few is an understament iv ran it like 20 timesa

I gernally hate this game

[round rune]

https://tenor.com/view/ted-lasso-afc-richmond-believe-gif-22969950

I believe in you, Big Cakes

[oblique hatch]

also I can’t remember if you should have access to it yet but divine stew is super helpful once I could make it I never played without it lol

[steel canopy]

this lineup lost

i cant

Im so ovy not ment to beat this

this is obsurd

[steel canopy]

iv got nerely 14 hrs played and stuck on mission 18 of 33 i guess its time to just admit defeat cause even if i wanted to im not beating it in time

[steel canopy]

glad someone does cause I dont not this time

[split crystal]

FWIW, that lineup might be a bit underpowered for this point in the game. That’s a lot of money and materials invested in a hedgehog with crit and attack speed bonuses for a defensive shield guy, and on three sheep with defensive bonuses for your back-rank guys.

These are obviously still better than basic units, but you’d probably be getting significantly more value out of almost any other way that those resources could have been allocated.

[steel canopy]

I think my issue overall is I 100% prefer my games to be based more on skill (getting good) over ones that want grinding and time commitment in the way of playing levels over and over again to get materials then allocating things to the right places. So this type of game was doomed for me from the rip! Especially when I saw no where in game where it explained what units are better where or even what materials create which so I just winged it.

[split crystal]

Yeah, I’m not going to defend the grinding or the way that the game hides how the mechanics work unless you look them up externally. I’m generally enjoying the game, but it’s despite those aspects.

[steel canopy]

Well i find it pretty hard to defend lol but liking it regardless is taste so ya you like what ya like (ill never shit on tht but will deff always bring up issues in games). Thos kinda issues ill never be able to forgive. Especially past like nes days when games where made to be looked up in like magazines and shit (and even then it was still inexcusable tbh).

I genuinely hate the idea of having to look stuff up to beat a game. This is a personal thing but tht makes the experience cheepened to me.

I hated even coming to this thread to ask for help the other day on a diff level. And I gave up my own code for what? To be bricked walled by a diff level this time even harder.

This one has left a truely sour taste in my mouth.

[weak abyss]

What I see in this game is a common trend in PSP games, and that can be good or bad. Back in the day I see that many PSP games were intended to be played in short bursts, so they had many levels that happen in minutes. Thus, grinding "is not an issue" because it's just playing more. I am talking about Crisis Core, PE3, MH, and so and so. Those mission based games were great for a short try in the bus, etc.

Of course, execution of this may vary, that I won't argue 😅

[vale current]

https://tenor.com/view/no-lies-national-geographic-not-lying-telling-the-truth-gif-4483366

[weak abyss]

and I have to say that, understanding its problems and not being specially good at it, it's a game that I enjoy for some reason 😅

[steel canopy]

I have no issue with the amount of levels. But i gotta tell ya no matter how many short bursts I play. Ill pass on something tht want me to play the same level over and over and over again in order to proceed. I dont care if I played for 5 min or 10 hrs. If I played the level 2 times yesterday I dont wanna be playing it today.

And I owned a psp and played a decent amount of games on it this was not the case for all of them

Tho if memory serves me right this was the lanch title for the psp mini or whatever it was called tht was discounted like 3 months after 1st release 😬

Infact if I have less time to play something I'd like new content tht much more

As If I dont have time the more I dont wanna grind

And this dont even touch the game doing little to no explanation of what materials yeilds what type of unit.

[weak abyss]

that's definitely not great

I hate the fact that I don't know in advance which units I will get when mixing materials, I have to check wikis and do the math

and the minigames are grrrr

[steel canopy]

For what its worth im glad ya and others enjoy it dont get me wrong. I never wanna try and take joy away🤣. I just like to point stuff out tht iv tryed a critically thought through.

I can live with doing the math. As long as it consistent in game lol. I dont wanna go somewhere eles to do research tho. For all the reason listed above

[sterile bluff]

I didn’t look up anything about units. Just generally assumed more expensive = better.

You can minmax stats but I don’t think it’s necessary

[steel canopy]

This game hits me in alot of things I dislike. And I think the main one is i want the things that stop my progression to be tests of skill not tests of did ya grind enough. Or did test of did ya fig the right comp by grinding enough to no the right comp

[steel canopy]

I did not either till I ran into brick wall tht i have since basicly found out was mis ailment of resoerces

And wanna spend zero more time grinding for more

As I already did plenty of tht as it is

And iv not even mentioned the habit of the game hiding new items on optional hunting ground levels

The more I think about it the worse it gets 🤣

And to my own fault I handled the game the way i handle games and just tryed to play levels over and over and over again until I get through them. Until it was 1000% ovy that my army was not enough cause I was playing borderline perfect to perfect and still not getting through. And at tht point id go grind more materials. But the game wants ya to be doing tht materials grind a bit at a time intead of throwing ya face at a brick wall. Witch is the antithesis of how I play games which is get perfect at the skill till the skill gets ya through.

[tiny tundra]

If you unlock the chef and make some divine stews, that will literally carry you through the entire back half of the game. With next to no army farming.

Lot of people have beaten the game with mostly white units.

[steel canopy]

O lord there making a remake for steam this game gonna live rent free in my head for a long time

[steel canopy]

I did nit have the materials needed i have chef no material for tht mini game😔

[tiny tundra]

Youre also talking about playing perfect and that's your preferred way to play, and i can tell you i had maybe, 1-3 rarepons through the game until i hit megapons with the exception of insanely cheap yaripons.

You get the farmer, get the chef and heck, a few people didn't do most of the side content and skipped jujis and mini games

[steel canopy]

I almost never breck a fever unless I find it tactically beneficial for timming

[tiny tundra]

Yall are wildly overstating the level of farm needed for this game

[spring badger]

Yeah it isn’t that bad

[tiny tundra]

Most of everyone finished between 9 to 12 hours, and I was the 12 with unnecessary farming that I didn't need for the end

[steel canopy]

Iv put 14 hrs in to get level 18. And like I said my play has been fever forever unless needed to breck for rythum of enemy attack

And its mostly cause I dont have right items for x misstion

[tiny tundra]

You need 2 jujus. Thats it

You need the rain and tailwind jujus

The rest are optional

[steel canopy]

The mission tht officially ended me the one im not going back to the cannon kept getting dieing before I can make enough dent. And with my current army iv tryed staying back as fair as possible iv tryed gaurding. Iv try attacking a mix of both. Im sure stew would help. But i dont have item needed for tht. While playing ever level game has offered me

[tiny tundra]

There's a level of irony here about complaining about hidden items and stages and loving dark souls games

Im beginning to think that JC doesn't 100% them and only fights required story bosses

[steel canopy]

Lol truly no need for them in souls tho. Ya can skill claim enough with almost any weapon (almost)

[steel canopy]

Iv killed them all

[tiny tundra]

Sure.

[steel canopy]

One on run or another

Except elden

Cause I did not wanna do the respective ass dungeons

And reskins

Like I did not kill all the tree avatars cause its just the asylum demon with a small change each time🤣

[ancient talon]

45 minutes. Not as bad as you thought

[steel canopy]

Lol dot worry the one with the tranche was hrs before I stopped for good

Like 5 yesterday

[tiny tundra]

Listen, you can say what you want now, I no longer believe you JC. Because some of the bosses in the core 3 have infinitely wilder and more obscure requirements than patapon. The only items that even mildly obscure is needing to go through Starry night when it's not raining. Everything else is do a hunting stage and kill an enemy. Other than the very first stage that has a totem that the game blatantly tells you about.

[ancient talon]

I never studied units at all and had maybe 2 rarepons per stage lmao. I used kibas for a few (horsebois) but never used the fat ones. Honestly, getting access to the cooking minigames and using divine stews the game isn't that bad

[steel canopy]

I mostly disagree like I found all the bosses in ds 1 pretty easy to fine. Even gwendylyn. But mayb im used to the way them games hide things

[tiny tundra]

Sure.

[steel canopy]

And 3 is so easy tht gamr be a series of stright lines🤣

One of the reasons I dont like 3 much

[steel canopy]

Tell me its not a pick flamingo or whatever they are cause them bitches ran so much amd I did not have the dps

[tiny tundra]

Didnt have the dps?

[spring badger]

Patapon is a children’s rhythm game

[tiny tundra]

So you didn't have 6 archers and 6 spears? You just leave the axe units at home for hunting missions.

Thats the "dps check"

And the game tells you that.

[steel canopy]

I styed fair away from them too good for any attack tht hit woth ax and most arrows

[steel canopy]

Lol not an argument

[tiny tundra]

If you dont have melee units, you can get pretty close to everything, and when you strike birds with arrows and spears it flinches them.

[spring badger]

If I was 10 and able to read the game’s tip about not bringing melee units onto hunts, you should have been able to do that too

[steel canopy]

I always got the normy ones but the pinks did not wanna die

[steel canopy]

Love the perosnal attacks when someone is critical of something ya like🤣

[spring badger]

I’m just pointing out that it’s a skill issue

I’m really trying to be fair here

[steel canopy]

Please dont criticize my golden crow ill get very upset🤣🤣

[tiny tundra]

So, the issue is that your criticism is boiled down to you're getting skill issued, and make no mistake, you are, and also not reading a few lines of text and trying to blame the game making you grind(it doesnt) or that its too obscure and hides items(only 2 items are actually required, and the game tells you about both).

[steel canopy]

For what it worth me and you are having a fine argument i got no issue there. Ya did not resert to peronsal attacks

[ancient talon]

Damn Cash really walked in here and told JC he couldn't beat a game for 10 year olds

[steel canopy]

I will not engage howeber with people who use personal attacks over arguing a point I made

[ancient talon]

Cakes its personal now

[steel canopy]

Which is not you

[ancient talon]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-stfu-shut-your-mouth-slap-slapping-gif-8050553153066707611

[steel canopy]

Nah quite franking could care less about what cash says now

As soon as ya result to personal attacks ya might as well not exist to me

[ancient talon]

https://tenor.com/view/damn-shookt-shocked-gif-5580082

https://tenor.com/view/easter-doe-eating-deer-eating-popcorn-funny-gif-4621167703268332056

[steel canopy]

I lived a life of discussion when it comes to games or movies or really anything. But as soon as someone resorts to ad hom I pass ever time

[spring badger]

I’m sorry JC, my intention wasn’t to personally attack you. I should have been more mature than that. I just was trying to point out the issue you were having

[steel canopy]

I appreciate this and im sorry too for blasting

I caught wind

And went fire mode

[spring badger]

No worries haha

[steel canopy]

@tiny tundra @spring badger @ancient talon welcome to the bad side of me if I get mad i get mean...blame it on my zodiac sign or something 🤣🤣

[ancient talon]

https://tenor.com/view/started-blasting-gun-eyeglasses-so-anyway-i-started-blasting-gif-16955226

[ancient talon]

Oh No JC is actually a crystal girlie

his chakras were out of alignment

[tiny tundra]

To the birds, you leave melee at home, tatepon and kibas etc, you build up fevers, and move up, and attack. You'll keep them pretty stun locked until they die.

Tailwind and Rain are the only two required jujus.

You can unlock the farmer, spend a few rounds getting cabbages and then divine stew through the game and just blast through it.

[steel canopy]

Im not i was kidding lol but I've dated alot of them🤣

[ancient talon]

Seriously tho JC. Just power through to get the cooking minigame and do the stews. The game isn't toooo bad difficulty wise. As long as you have full teams I'm fully confident you can beat it. I did it on my PSP - So no save states!

[ancient talon]

sigh yeah I had a few encounters with some super headie chicks lol

[steel canopy]

I dont think imma beat it we will see but at moment I left game last night woth no itent of going back

[tiny tundra]

And if JC doesn't finish patapon, it'll forever live in the gotm history as a game too hard for him. And ill never let him live it down.

[steel canopy]

More like made me think too much🤣🤣

[ancient talon]

I just found the game annoying in spots but never "hard"

just annoying lol

and again anyone who is bitching while using savestates and whatnot I don't want to hear it lol

If I needed to retry something I was re-loading and WAITING for that bitch to load

[steel canopy]

Different will never be my issue i could prob make a video carrer off of throwing face at wall on hard game till I have enough skill to beat. But when game requires I fine like say stew from a bird and I have no clue its tht bird thts when I dont wanna play tht game

Iv said it before I like my road blocks to be simply skill based not thought or farm based🤣.

Mostly cause I have a master degree in no longer wanna think

Did enough critical thinking in school

[ancient talon]

Yeah idk I did some farming to fill out my team and get money here and there, but I beat the game in 10 hours (Figure 12ish if you count restarts and stuff)but didn't farm much at all.

I get you on some of the other stuff though. Theres stuff to lookup, like which color patapons are good and all that. Cost, what materials, where to get certain materials, how to unlock the minigames, and in a few spots, how to proceed

[steel canopy]

Ya should not how much I love looking shit up🤣

For me tht cheepens my experience

[ancient talon]

It doesn't bother me too much. I'd rather give it a try and if I can't figure it out and its starting to hinder my enjoyment of the game I'll look it up

[steel canopy]

@tiny tundra ill concede the point about hunting grounds for sure if it did tell ya somewhere enot to bring ax guys i missed tht and im man enough to admit where im wrong. I still stand by my other points tho

[steel canopy]

Thrs fair and with tht i think all should play games the way they like too tht is a style of gamming choice more then a hard you should do it x way

[steel canopy]

Thts y I enjoy discourse about things like tht ya sometimes learn things ya missed and are better off it cause ya now have a more accurate representation of the truth

[oblique hatch]

Brother you just gotta realize trying the same thing over and over might not work in every game lol

[steel canopy]

I tryed too many things in this game🤣

[tiny tundra]

I have to be that guy.

😔

One of the loading screens that JC said THAT SIGN CANT STOP ME CAUSE I CANT READ.

[steel canopy]

Lol not can't read won't 🤣

[ancient talon]

Its fine JC. Its just a game for 10 yea olds

[steel canopy]

I skip through text screens like its my day job

[elder void]

Everyone has their gaming blindspots/weakpoints, Patapon might just be it for JC and he doesn't deserve to get shit on for it

[ancient talon]

To be fair (sorry Cash) I never could beat this game when it was contemporary and I was like 14-15 when I was playing it so....

https://tenor.com/view/gohine-hohino-no-hohineee-gohineee-gif-17792172174678204487

Hate to say you're wrong but I wouldn't call it a childrens rhythm game

[steel canopy]

Tbf I started the argument 🤣. Im well awhere tht means I take the risk of people disagreeing my only issue is when people make things about peronsal attacks u less there ovy a joke

Like @tiny tundra is ovy kidding

[ancient talon]

I just would like to take this moment to Antagonize him

[steel canopy]

Tht dont bother me

[ancient talon]

JC - first of all, how dare you

[steel canopy]

What i do now🤣

[tiny tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/howdareyou-offended-rude-offensive-appalled-gif-26011926

[ancient talon]

You...

You let me down

https://tenor.com/view/feels-bad-man-frog-cry-gif-15240312

[tiny tundra]

Im personally just poking at him cause it's funny. You know my stance on peoples game opinions.

[elder void]

Oh I know, I was mostly referring to Cash's blistering take

[ancient talon]

Resisting urge to open my mouth

[elder void]

https://tenor.com/view/ren-and-stimpy-stimpy-alrighty-open-wide-doctor-hospital-gif-18615224

[steel canopy]

Haha ya also no which one got me 🤣

At this point

[ancient talon]

No No I'll be nice I guess.

[steel canopy]

I feel like beating it would be giving in but also not beating it is given in this is a true lose lose tht I walk myself int0🤣

[steel canopy]

Lol im so easy to do this too🤣

My personality is so strong willed tht it makes tht easy 🤣

[ancient talon]

Psh if its not you it'll be me

Its a cake eat cake world out there

[steel canopy]

Also kinda wish this said ax guys this is not a critisum the game is correct for putting tatepons lol but man do i struggle to remember which name was which pon with out looking at span tree

[oblique hatch]

I still believe in your triumph, get those stews goin

[tiny tundra]

So. 2 things.

1. saying axe guys would be misleading because they also use swords.

[steel canopy]

True but no chance I'd remember from screen read to tht. Like without looking i can't tell ya what the spear or arrow guys are called they are arrow pon and spear pon go me. And then ya got horse pon

[tiny tundra]

JC truly said reading is his final boss.

[steel canopy]

With this one its closer to remember non-real words lol

[tiny tundra]

[oblique hatch]

The naming is p obtuse tbh

[steel canopy]

What does tate mean as a prefix?

It can mean thos who lead a group

Or in the front

Well ya no

[oblique hatch]

Oh it’s just Japanese lol

[tiny tundra]

#JustJPThings

[steel canopy]

In tht context it makes alot of sence tbh

[spring badger]

You’re right, I was rude. I’m sorry

[spring badger]

I was able to read the tooltip at 10 but I didn’t beat it until a couple of years later when I saw the stews in a YouTube video so I looked it up. You’re right, it’s pretty challenging.

[steel canopy]

Don't need to beat yourself up over it ya can trust I get mad then calm and forget about it 99% of the time

[spring badger]

You and I are good, I appreciate that you moved on after I apologized 😌

But I was immature and should have said that differently

[steel canopy]

@ancient talon is there are any crystal people in the chat its my scorpio rage🤣🤣

[ancient talon]

Oh boy

I dated a Scorpio. Honeslty she was the worst one lol

Dang water signs

I'm a Leo so. I shoulda known better

[steel canopy]

Ya no the other 2 water sign get a good name tho. They do what they did cause ya hurt them🤣 by the bullshit star science. But me im listed as just the worst 🤣.

[ancient talon]

Cancers cry about everything

[steel canopy]

I no more then i should about it as a member of the alternative community unfortunately I ran into alot of people who really belive it

[ancient talon]

Pisces I don't even know

Scorpio's are just dark and brooding

[steel canopy]

Don't for get mysterious

And charming🤣

[ancient talon]

Its like 'Whats up" - literally everyone "not much, hey whats going on"

Scorpio's - "Don't you dare ask about me, I have infinite mysteries within you'd never have the pleasure of knowing"

[steel canopy]

Privacy do be important 😏

[ancient talon]

I'm not sure its privacy lol

However I overshare

i'm like hi nice to meet you, would you like to explore my Trauma now or in a few minutes

Its fine though I'll just make it a joke

[ancient talon]

bUt HoW wIlL i KnOw My RiSiNg SiGn?!?

[steel canopy]

Haha ut takes a long time to get to no me deeper then like jokes and stuff 🤣. Trust is earned blah blah by blah🤣

[steel canopy]

My mom when I was younger

And I still never listened

Cause alittle toxic never hurt anyone right?🤣

[ancient talon]

Momma cakes was spitting wisdom

Young Cakes said nah fam I will dive first into toxicity

https://tenor.com/view/system-of-a-down-toxicity-toxic-gif-20838236

[steel canopy]

I am part of the metal, tatoo , pircing and emo community it be what it be🤣

[steel canopy]

She had always been wise and I never listen🤣

[ancient talon]

Thats what momma's are for

[steel canopy]

I do appreciate you for saying this tho!! Should have said this right away

[round rune]

PON-PON-PATA-PON imo

But yeah, maybe it's just those purple sheep units screwing you over lol. I made one once and their stats seemed kinda mid for being an expensive purple unit and I reloaded to make a spiky boy instead

[weak abyss]

with spiky pons the difference is big and they are not that hard to get, and then if you are able to get some of the bull horned ones, then it's great

some levels are still a real carnage, with more than 10 units lost by the end of the level

at least they revive

I hate the bosses that permakill units, I am reloading the level in those cases to prevent the hassle of farming materials to get a new rarepon

[round rune]

Yeah, I had like two horned axes and a horned spear by the end. Wasn't as bad of a grind as I was anticipating based on comments. I had a lot of yellow guys still by the end and even some orange bunny ones

This was my army by the end of it

Even deleted some yellows to make basic whites to wear some of the hats, but idk how much that mattered

Ended up liking the axes and spent most of my gold on them

[steel canopy]

If only one new what materals made what🤣

And no i dont wanna research it

[round rune]

Yeah, I just tried stuff and reloaded

Didn't know the purple sheep guys were a thing until I made one and saw it's stats were kinda ass and not worth the gold imo and reloaded

[steel canopy]

Honestly my run might be chaulked

Chalked*

I have so much resourses used

Its gonna take so long

To get enough back

[round rune]

I think the game took me like 13-14 hours to beat, maybe 3 of those hours were intentional grinding, but I did it slowly over time. Started each session with like a handful of gold runs and then do 2-3 missions to actually progress. So did it slowly over time and not all at once

But yeah, if you gotta replace those sheeps now, it'll take a LOT of gold. If you even have the higher tier materials to do it

[steel canopy]

Hahahha im at 14hrs already

On mission 18

[round rune]

Yeah, you're hella chalked

[steel canopy]

Im officially the worst ponta player of all time

Not a normal thing for me

Im uselly jusy good at games

[round rune]

I'm usually bad at games

I 100% don't have the patience for Souls games lol

[spring badger]

If you grind the boss fights, you’ll get better and better resources to make stronger Patapons. The boss fights are fun because you have to know how to respond to a boss’s “tells” just like a souls game

[steel canopy]

Its funny cause I find sould games to have easy mode backed into then with if ya want with magic or summons and so on lol

[steel canopy]

Ya im on lv 3 of all the 1st 3 bosses I think

The worm im just bad at

Imm admit tht

[round rune]

I did grind out the first boss or 2, but my drop luck was ass and I stopped. So I didn't refight most of them. Whatever weapons I had at the end is 98% what I got running through the game

I really just started most sessions with like 20 mins of grinding gold on the first hunt and then doing a few missions to progress and things just worked out, so it wasn't bad being spread out so much

I missed some of the mini games and had to look that stuff up, tho, but I blame myself using the axe boys on my first run through every level and then never returning to hunt missions other than the very first one. So missed a lot of the gold birds that unlocked stuff

If I was younger and experimenting more, I'd likely replay most of the hunt missions to find out which ones gave good gold. But being here I already knew the best option was likely just running the first mission + the star one later in the game

[steel canopy]

Lol everyone eles got a way throw something has to be wrong with my gamr copy or something 🤣

Also what is the mini game between the bolder guy and stu guy

I never got thr one

[round rune]

Idr what order they're in, but there's the big dancing tree that gives you sticks/wood, the farmer that gives you vegetables and the chef who uses those vegetables to make soups, the mountain baby that gives rocks, and a blacksmith that uses rocks to make metals. Assuming I wasn't missing any

I didn't really use the mountain or blacksmith guys much tbh, and they were some of the ones I was missing until I looked things up lol

Maybe I just got lucky with the drops I did get, I didn't grind out the minigames too much for better materials

I used the dancing tree a good bit at the start just to get a full army of white guys and then did a lot of farming/cooking. The last 1/3rd of the game I had soup buffs going for basically every mission

[ivory swan]

Maybe I should try just making like three Gekolos Megapons and see what happens

[round rune]

Are those the purple horned boys?

I never did wrap my head around the different names and just called them based on color lol

[ivory swan]

Gekolos is yellow frogs. They have rapid attacks and a +5 damage bonus

[oblique hatch]

I think it might be better to get less rare pons that have higher stats since the hats can get them pretty strong, good hat seemed better than a bunny or whatever

[round rune]

Rapid attacks do sound good on ranged units

[ivory swan]

I'd need them to milk some damage out of wooden horns, since I only have one non-default horn

[round rune]

Yeah, I ended up having to delete a few orange/yellow boys by the end to make some basic units for the bigger hats I was getting

I didn't respect the doots enough lol

[oblique hatch]

I never used a doot, I definitely took a minimalist let me beat this game asap approach

[round rune]

I don't think I made a single of the big club guys. Used the horse dudes for one mission, messed with the doots a bit. But I ended up liking my axe boys

I tend to get attached to the first party members you get in games and don't change too much lol

[oblique hatch]

Yeah no clubs either

Did try horses once too but didn’t like it haha

[round rune]

I made 3 basic white horse dudes for one mission to push back an enemy horse dude who was keeping me out of range of the rest of the army. I forget which mission, one of the ones you have to attack their cart/something

Only mission I used them in

Spidertron or whatever his name was

He was running in too far and keeping my army pushed back out of range of hitting the cart thing, so made horses to push him back lol

[ivory swan]

This is a good idea. I'm having trouble with this guy. I was considering using megapons to stymie him, but if he actually has infinite HP or something that might not help

[round rune]

Yeah, I just couldn't get close enough with him running in and out. But with the horses, I was able to knock him back enough to mostly keep my arrows/spears in range of the cart thing. Think it still took a few attempts, that was definitely one of the tougher missions for me

[ivory swan]

Right, that's one of the ones I've really been struggling with. I've considered using the tailwind miracle to aim arrow volleys at his support

[round rune]

I just made 3 cheap white horse units and it ended up working out. And that's the only time I used them

I'm sure I used tailwind, too

[ivory swan]

Fair enough. I do have a handful of halberds I think

[tiny tundra]

Tailwind helps.

[round rune]

I should try that Ratatan demo that came out recently

[tiny tundra]

[round rune]

You Ratatan-ing?

[steel canopy]

Ya im missing the vegy fuy

Guy*

[tiny tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/restless-gif-1514542008269461846

[steel canopy]

I want yall to no i hate yall cause yall have convinced me to play this again after my nap after work. 🫠

[round rune]

We have so much faith in you

[steel canopy]

I better find eyeballs cabage

And fast

[hearty arrow]

I just finished the desert part. Is it possible to finish the game this month?

[oblique hatch]

Possible, yes but you’ll need to spend probably 4-5 more hours doing well in the game

[steel canopy]

Rummor is tht at least 1500 of the comments are me bitching

[steel canopy]

is it rng if this thing shows up when ya make it rain on the level to ge the one thing i need or am i doing something wrong...

[thorny ermine]

You have to make it rain within the first few feet of that level (start with defensive chants to stay still and build fever)

[steel canopy]

got it

would habe been here awhile llol

[steel canopy]

one try with the bad stew....all i needed was the stew omg imma just go kms

[steel canopy]

and now no level so fair since has taken more then one try

wtf

[steel canopy]

red boss little guy with big silf is an issue

[weak abyss]

only ~1000 🤣 🤣

[steel canopy]

The fact tht nighrign drops tonight might stop thos completion from happing

[elder void]

Can you tell me what Nightreign is because I haven't seen anything that makes me want to play it

[steel canopy]

So @elder void I was not hype till I saw this trialer🤣

But its baslily 1 or 3 player game where ya collect stuff during day fight basic enemy then at night fight a night boss tht is from any of the old games but speed up. So are yoy play much diff much faster. And then the day resets if ya service 5 days I think ya fight a night rign boss. And if ya beat all them there is super end boss

Tht is my understanding

And there are alot of diff classes ya can use

[elder void]

So as a solo player less appealing?

[steel canopy]

Idk depends how it scales

[steel canopy]

But ya this trialer

Watch is and try not to be hype🤣

[elder void]

That was pretty hype but is there any exploration and worldbuilding?

That's generally what I enjoy Fromsoft for. Like the combat is fun but it's not why I'm playing

[steel canopy]

Tht is fair and im not sure 100%

I can let ya no tho

Ill be palyong

I think the answer is yes

[elder void]

Thanks! Please do! 🙂

[steel canopy]

To some degree

But also not as much as others

In all liklh hood

I think long term there trying this out to then later make a game like there others but with seemless co-op

Tht js my guess

[oblique hatch]

saw some people talking about it not being balanced well to solo, but idk

not for me I’m not good enough at souls games for two other people to rely on me haha

[elder void]

Only $40? Maybe I'll give it a shot

[round rune]

You must finish Patapon so you can get your fake internet points

[tiny tundra]

Whats up? Nightreign?

[tiny tundra]

Pve roguelike thats either solo or in a team of 3, you drop in, collect stuff as you go, fight enemies to level up making your way to the center of the arena. You have a battle Royale ring closing in like Fortnite that forces you towards the center.

You get to the center, fight a boss, if you clear that boss you move to day 2. Rinse and repeat day 2, if your team kills that boss, you go to the final encounter where you fight the Nightlord, if you kill him, you win the run and go back to the fort. Get chalices for classes that carry between runs, but other than that, youre always reset to 1.

It can be played solo but it's balanced around being in a squad of 3.

@steel canopy

You as well

I got in and played during the network test

[tiny tundra]

Not in the normal style no

Youre on a constant timer and have to keep moving towards the center

[elder void]

Seems fun and at $40 I might try it

But I would only be playing solo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpVkt2iba4k Watching this now, he says it's not worth it as a solo singleplayer experience

[tiny tundra]

It has random match making

Its not worth it solo

[elder void]

If the matchmaking is fine I'll probably go for it

[tiny tundra]

At all, cause you're doing the exact same thing and can't just freely explore without the ring closing in. You also don't get the support of someone being able to pick you up if you go down

The individual nightfayers have stories, but there's no crazy world building or lore like a normal souls or elden Ring.

[tiny tundra]

I think early match making is going to be hit or miss because you'll have people who dont understand its a team game and you should stick together. People will try to go off on their own and end up dying and you'll probably fail the run.

As time goes on and people understand, it'll get way better. But i expect the first few days to be.

[elder void]

Ooof fair

I am conflicted

[tiny tundra]

Quite literally how my runs went

Had a few where people fucked off and we just died and wiped

Then the runs where people stayed together we killed the NL

My main tip if people get it. DO NOT IGNORE DOING THE CHARACTER TEST AREA TO LEARN HOW TO PLAY THE NIGHTFAYERS.

Theres some not straightforward mechanics to learn. Like how the Recluse works

And if you try to raw drop and learn as you go as like, the recluse, youre going to have a bad time and be an actual detriment because youre not going to do anything. So watch a video or do the test area.

Every class has its unique mechanics.

[steel canopy]

Ya never play with randoa

Tht is any mutiplayer game

[tiny tundra]

I mean, if you have a dedicated squad, heck yea. But otherwise solo its pretty miserable.

[steel canopy]

I'd happily play with anyone in this server if it saved them from playing with randos🤣

[tiny tundra]

So a lot of it is going to be randoa

And honestly, I think the rando problem will only really be an issue this weekend, when people hear ELDEN RING and did no research, dont like the loop, fall off, and the people who remain like, next week or the following are going to be the people who are in it to win it and matchmaking will be pretty smooth

Cause i do think a lot of people are going to get baited by the Elden Ring name and not realize its a pve roguelike

[steel canopy]

I have like 4 groups imma play with lol I dont think ill ever rando quee

My plan is to beat all bosses at least once

Then be done till dlc

[tiny tundra]

Thats a very short goal

[steel canopy]

Well i no there is like 5 nightrign bosses

And quite a few from old.gwmed

But ya its not particularly my tyoe of game

Like im not a huge multi-player guy

[tiny tundra]

Fair

[steel canopy]

And I hate everthing battle royal🤣

And this is as close to tht idea in a diff way

[tiny tundra]

Yea. It's a pve battle royale

[steel canopy]

Ill enjoy it with friends then shelf it🤣 till dlc then enjoy with friends repeat 🤣

[tiny tundra]

Fair enough.

Im on the fence because its sandwiched between 2 100+ hour games.

I had a lot of fun with it, but fantasy life and Rune Factory next week got me locked up

[wintry hare]

JC did you give up? Hate for another Royal Stone ending

[steel canopy]

I dont know these

Ill have to look up

[steel canopy]

Not yet

I just

Gotta figure out

If I can make time

[tiny tundra]

Cozy life sim games.

Thats the surface level

I don't think you'd like either tbh

[steel canopy]

Do i like anything tho🤣?

[ancient talon]

Dude you got this

[tiny tundra]

I mean legitimately though. They'd be too slow and kinda simple for you imo

[ancient talon]

Beat Pata

Show those lil eyeballs who's boss lol

It seems like you're like 75% of the way through

Just get good enough to get the divine stew and plow through. I KNOW U CAN DO EET

[oblique hatch]

yeah you're through the worst of it, especially since you can stew it up now

[steel canopy]

The sif mofo

Pissed me off last night

Tho only tryed twoce

[steel canopy]

Let's go im not simple 🤣🤣

But in all seriousness I no what ua mean

[ancient talon]

Sif?

Scythe?

Fighting Gong for the final time?

You're close to the end if so

[steel canopy]

Its mission like 21 of 33

So not tht close

[ancient talon]

Oof

Yeah. You'd have to hunker down

[grand arrow]

I'm in roughly the same spot, burned last night trying to farm materials to get some purple doots but no luck on getting cedar

Gonna see if I can take the general advice here and try to brute force the remainder using divine stews

[ancient talon]

I had a pretty basic team and didn't do a lot of farming and I needed stews for maybe 4-5 missions?

The game gets annoying but I never found it downright outrageously hard

[queen mural]

So does stews help create an easier mode? I never got them

[oblique hatch]

They’re whole party power ups, so essentially, yes

[split crystal]

Yeah, I did the same. Had plenty of money and several level 4 meat, but can't find a level 4 tree or alloy after several boss attempts. So I decided to forget doots, and just make some mogyoon spears and axes and try to push through the rest of the story. So far it's been going well, made it through several missions in a row on the first attempt, and am up to Final Showdown.

[round rune]

I don't think my team was particularly stacked by the end, I had 2 purple and 2 blue axe boys, but only really one purple spear and bow, still lots of yellow units and even some orange bow guys by the end. But spammed stews almost every mission for the last 1/4th of it

A few missions took a few attempts, but wasn't ever anything too crazy imo

Didn't spend much time grinding higher tier materials from bosses or the mini games, mostly just used what I got on my first run throughs

[ancient talon]

Yeah basically if you struggle on a mission adding a "divine stew" makes it pretty simple

[round rune]

I didn't even attempt missions without it for the final like half dozen missions. Divine Stew every time, my soldiers do not yield

They marched into every battle with a full stomach and a thirst for blood

[queen mural]

Oh. This may explain why it felt I had to grind more than most to get higher level pons since I didn’t discover stews.

[grand arrow]

If this faq is to be believed, I'm about to take on the hardest level (besides that damn desert) so I'll absolutely be using stew

[split crystal]

Four straight failed attempts at Final Showdown, with quite a few rarepons and upgraded equipment, using divine stew, mostly staying in fever, trying different tactics to try and survive the attacks. Started to wonder if this is a scripted loss level, so I let it go all the way down to the last pon rather than quitting when it was just two archers repeatedly shooting over the boss's head.

Fine, I don't like overusing guides, but I'm ready to wrap this game up, so let's just look it up and see what trick I'm missing:

https://tenor.com/view/thanks-so-much-thanks-thank-you-sarcastic-squinting-gif-10955475

[queen mural]

Is it moth person?

[split crystal]

Yeah. Ironically, I actually beat it on my next attempt.

[queen mural]

If so I attacked when moth was on the ground when moth flew I defended until moth came down then attacked. Rinse repeat

[split crystal]

That's what I was trying at first, and getting nowhere. My axe guys got put to sleep or killed by her melee attack without accomplishing much, and too many of the projectiles were going over her head when she was on the ground. And neither defending nor running away seemed all that effective at mitigating damage from the meteors. Also wasted time and fever trying the new storm miracle with the idea that maybe it would protect them, but it did nothing.

Funnily enough, the guide goes on to say to make sure to use a mix of ranged and melee because if you go all ranged she just stays in the air the whole time using meteor and does more damage. But on the final attempt, she immediately went into the air, and just hovered there spamming meteor the entire fight while my melee guys stood there uselessly or fell asleep from the dust. But this time I ignored defense and just treated it as a DPS race, and she went down while I still had most of my army intact.

[ancient talon]

Yeah the guide I was looking at said to only use ranged I believe. But I wound up doing the same as you and just brute forcing it with a stew

[round rune]

I also brute forced it with stew. Defending a couple times to make her land before attacking a few times again, my axe boys seemed to be able to get one attack in before she'd fly up and start dropping the dust that puts them to sleep. If you have the PON-PON-CHAKA-CHAKA charge attack, you could do that, hit her once before they fall asleep, and then defend again. Pretty sure that's what I did

If I remember right, it seemed impossible until my like third attempt changing nothing that somehow worked out

I remember looking it up and also seeing that "you shouldn't need any special stretrgy" page you posted

[hearty arrow]

how many missions does this game have?

[wintry hare]

33

[hearty arrow]

oof, I'm on despair now

[wintry hare]

@steel canopy where you at

26 completions need two more

[ancient talon]

Yeah wtf JC did you beat this yet

[oblique hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/bad-movies-rule-bmr-varsity-blues-movie-come-on-johnny-you-can-do-it-gif-4971856483408552603

[steel canopy]

Played elden ring night rign for 5 hrs last night so I might be cooked on this for the sure perpse tht id just rather be playing tht

[wintry hare]

fair I guess.

[steel canopy]

We will see but 9 times outta 10 from from soft releases a game my next month or 2 are cooked

[wintry hare]

what?

I am so close

[steel canopy]

I mean like I play nothing but fromsoft games when they release 🤣

[wintry hare]

uck

[steel canopy]

Imna try to get this in a bit tonight but we will see

Like for me nightrign already the best form of anything similar to how fortnight handles getting weapons and foreses ya to be in a certin area cause storms

Cause at the end of the day when fromsoft wants too they do it better

https://tenor.com/view/demons-souls-dark-souls-dark-souls2-dark-souls3-ds1-gif-24707783

[ancient talon]

Disappointment intensifying

[round rune]

My disappointment is immeasurable

[wintry hare]

https://tenor.com/view/neil-patrick-harris-upset-disappointed-sad-gif-13711197

[round rune]

Patapon is the Dark Souls of rhythm games and Cakes couldn't git gud

[ancient talon]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-thinking-gif-16134729

[round rune]

I'll be telling my therapist about this one

[ancient talon]

Man cakes did a number here

Trippy in therapy : Well this guy Johnnycakes, he's kind of our unofficial mascot, because he always brute forces the games.

[round rune]

We should all lose our Patapon completion point if JC doesn't finish it

[ancient talon]

Yeah he just....gave up. Because of a new souls game

[round rune]

Now all of our lives are on the line

[round rune]

I wasn't strong enough to save him

[steel canopy]

@round rune @ancient talon @wintry hare imma try to fit.in time tonight and tomorrow. I will do my best but if 2 friends are like play nighrign I dont no if I can resist I will do my best for yall tho

Cause I love being the unofficial mascot

[round rune]

I'll love you and your 🎂 either way

I'm mostly joking, it's not really my kinda game but I hope Nightreign is bussin

[steel canopy]

For what its worth its a very diff gsme then most there games. But iv had alot of fun so fair. Its not perfect but fun.

And i still wanna try to get pantapon done if anything my own stubbornness is to blame. Ya I dont like how the game does soke shit and have my issues with it. But if I was not so stubben I would have been done days ago

[steel canopy]

And i deff no yall are joking but I feel a sence of duty🤣

[thorny ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/patapon-patapon-2-pata-pon-dancing-gif-13864014282607657670

[wintry hare]

I just want to hit my numbers

we are at 26 for patapon

[thorny ermine]

I appreciate the variety in gameplay we had for this month

[grand arrow]

Okay having a hard time with this last boss but the fight music is top tier

First attempt I almost thought my last two archers would clutch it out since they were dodging every attack in phase 3 due to their positioning

But but then of course there's a phase 4

Hoping to do better next time since I wasn't doing a good job of avoiding attacks

[grand arrow]

Okay that went a lot smoother trying to actually dodge the run attack instead of tanking it

[vale current]

Yeah don’t tank it

[ivory swan]

I'll be about in a couple hours or so. I'm on the last mission and just have to get back to work atm

[ivory swan]

You just got another for Patapon. Couldn't beat fucking Tony Hawk, but Patapon was great

RIP my one Tatepon. Lost one guy fighting Satan

Should've done saxes instead of axes after all

But I didn't have enough good saxes

If I'd been more timely I might've taken my saxes against one of the earlier bosses to see if I could get some basic sax upgrades to drop, but I'm running late as usual

Anyway Patapon 1 feels kinda rough and I don't know that I'll be returning to it, but I am now interested in Patapon 2 and Ratatan

[round rune]

Let's gooo, Gay. You did it

Chances of Patapon 2 ever winning? Or should I just play it myself in like 2-3 months? Lmao

[vale current]

Historically, takes a while for sequels to win in GotM

[grand arrow]

Takes a few months for the bad taste to wash from people's mouths

Though I am curious if the trend changes at all with the updated nomination and voting requirement, assuming themes are accommodating

[oblique hatch]

Patapon 2 has dinosaur bosses should have back to back’d

[round rune]

Sequel September

Sequels/spinoffs of games y'all have already played

[elder void]

I’m tired of alliterative themes 😩

[sterile bluff]

just wait until alliterative august where the game titles have to be alliterative too

[empty burrow]

Goodbye my beloved. Youre Pon Pon Pata Ponning in heaven now.

[wintry hare]

This month was filled with nightmares

[empty burrow]

I want you to look at this image and tell the class what you see