Patapon

[ancient talon]

Phew

[tiny tundra]

He just didn't want to redo welcome to the machine

[ancient talon]

Thought it was rage against the machine

https://tenor.com/view/now-testify-zack-de-la-rocha-rage-against-the-machine-testify-song-attest-gif-18865374

[tiny tundra]

Oh the stages makes you rage

[zenith bay]

THPS was all the skateboarding I needed. Don't even feel like trying that one out. I've gotten picky with GotW

[woeful helm]

Nah that shit is muscle memory now.

The hardest part would probably be the battle with the DNA strand bastard

[ancient talon]

I really gotta - actually play - ecco one of these days

[tiny tundra]

#JustEccoThings

[ancient talon]

I'm in the middle of the pack age wise here, maybe SLIGHTLY on the younger side, but I was a little young for the genesis / megadrive. Always loved my retro games tho - So a lot of the games came to me for $1-5 at a fleamarket, and I'd mess around with em for a bit before moving on to the next and chucking into the collection

Ecco was always one of those - this game is beautiful and has great music, but I can only ever play for 15 minutes lol

[woeful helm]

I'm also a bit young for Genesis/MD. Apparently I loved sonic as a kid but I can hardly remember playing it

[ancient talon]

SANIC

[woeful helm]

I couldn't sleep one morning and said today's the day I get into Ecco and the vibe alone was enough

[ancient talon]

I remember talking to everyone about starfox 64 in late kindergarden. Shit had me SO HYPE

[woeful helm]

To be fair I did beat it once prior with the help of one of my buddies who loved it and grew up with it, but doing it alone in the dark of my basement on my Genesis... Mood

[ancient talon]

Well I know what I'm doing next time I need some mothalickin atmosphere in my life

[woeful helm]

(Sound on)

[tiny tundra]

Wait. So. You dont walk in 4/4 rhythms normally?

Look at mr fancy Walker over here.

[ancient talon]

Lmao

Just be glad you're the great divine one

[zenith bay]

Look, they're working on their stamina. They need the rest after walking a whole 4 steps. Have you seen their leg to body ratio? They must be in immense pain, but they do it for the Great One

[edgy reef]

Is there any miracle that helps with the Gong mission? Those freaking dekapons suck and the tailwind miracle does nothing

[zenith bay]

I think you kind of need an IRL miracle called luck to have that mission go well

It took me a few tries, but I couldn't tell you why I finally succeeded

[edgy reef]

Great. I want to love this game, but at this rate, I am never voting for Patapon 2, ever.

[oblique hatch]

Parappa and Patapon ruining rhythm games for Gotx forever

[zenith bay]

Both games I loved very much despite having no nostalgia for them 😭

[oblique hatch]

I really enjoyed Parappa as well, Patapon lost me because its not really a rhythm game, it's real time strategy / material collection and management, which just is not for me, I recognize many love that

[ancient talon]

Are you on the like "final gong mission" I recall tailwind helping a little. May have used Kibapons instead of tatepons

[edgy reef]

I GOT IT!

Okay guys, here are the tricks, and yes the tailwind miracle barely freaking helps, so don't bring it along.

[zenith bay]

I also do not like grinding and collecting. I avoided as much grinding as I could. I probably killed about 10 extra bosses total for parts. I didn't make any of the units aside from the first three you get, and not having enough money or resources was one big reason why

[edgy reef]

Instead, get the Earthquake miracle and set it off as close to the megapons as possible, and that will clear them out. The rest of it is a breeze.

Also, bringing dekapons along helps a lot if you use the power up song. Dekapons will stun and make Gong fly back, which allows you get as close as possible to the dekapons in order to either have your archers take them out, or be smart and use the earthquake miracle.

And the rest of it is then a joke. I really hope this was the worst mission in the game, cause man, that was unfair.

[zenith bay]

It's pretty close to the end honestly. Lots of bosses that I beat first try. The final boss is a doozy, but I didn't use stews. If you don't have stews by the end, use a guide to figure out how to get them because they help

That's not the one where you fight Gong and a gate though, right? You'll fight a gate. Just use earthquake and it's easy. I did not have earthquake and it was impossible for me. Had to use a guide to figure out where I missed it

[edgy reef]

No, it was the one where he has an army of megapons behind that you can't get to while they shower you with whatever it is they're throwing at you. Thanks for the head's up on needing the earthquake again.

Also, I spent an entire night grinding divine stews (it's good that the mini game is easy), so I'm good on that end.

[zenith bay]

It's so weird that the stew minigame is not rhythm based

[edgy reef]

I hope I get the megapons soon, cause I'm using my best materials on them. They better be as good when they're on your side

[ancient talon]

It....kinda is

Its third, fourth, and 3.5 beats mostly

But its super forgiving

And the lil curveball is just visual not really timing

[edgy reef]

If only the rest of the game was like that...

[zenith bay]

You can do it completely by sight

[wintry hare]

No indication of how your rhythm is. Damn near every music rhythm game tells you how on the mark you are. There is no too fast or too slow. There are only angry and sad patapons. This what makes me really hate the game.

[woeful helm]

I used horse-opons once but otherwise just stuck with arrows, spears, and melee dudes

Realistically I couldn't be assed to grind a whole new unit of pons

[zenith bay]

This game would at least be twice as good if they just completely did away with currency

Keep the material farming if you want, but I was broke for the whole game and that's why I didn't even make basic horse guys

[woeful helm]

Just have your pons level up for each successful combat and let materials craft weapons

[edgy reef]

That crab boss fight was so easy after that Gong one, dang, so much better.

[woeful helm]

Then you can organically adjust your difficulty without expecting your players to grind to do anything

[edgy reef]

3100 kachings to make the best megapon though, oouuuch

[woeful helm]

Easiest boss in the game, no clue why it's so late

That and the robot chameleon dude

The worm is probably the worst/hardest imo

[tiny tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/shai-hulud-sandworm-dune-worm-dune-dune-2-sardaukar-gif-5826933029886743139

[woeful helm]

The last boss rules though, and the chant your pons do during that fight is sick. Almost saved the whole game for me lmao

[round rune]

Are the special units just random chance? I'm only like an hour in, just unlocked the bow guys, made 2 bow guys and a 4th axe dude and my 4th axe dude is has like orange bunny ears lol

[ancient talon]

No higher grade materials = rarepons

Theres a whole chart

But you def used a higher grade material on that guy

[round rune]

Oooh, like better meat or something? Maybe it auto selected to that or a better rock or something and I just didn't notice. I'll pay better attention next time

Oooh, and that's what the cherry tree is. A better stick? I just assumed it was for a different Patapon later lol

Can you unregister a Patapon? I could use a better meat and the cherry blossom stick for a better spear guy I guess, but I already have 6

[round rune]

Sick I was able to make a weird yellow spear dude 🔥

Why do they melt and die when you retire them? That was my son

[edgy reef]

Wait you can retire them? I am almost at the end of the game and still have shitty start game tatepons, how do you achieve this miracle?

[round rune]

I had to Google it, but you go to a mission and press Select on the equipment screen and it asks if you're sure

Says "Select = Quit" at the bottom of the screen I think, so kinda weird. But it asks if you wanna retire them and then they melt into nothing

[tiny tundra]

Melting your patapons for more power. You absolute monster.

in 2 you can just level them up and evolve them

[edgy reef]

Thank you, kind soul. I spent a whole day grinding the lucky star mission and minigames to have all the highest quality materials and kaching, and was bitter that my tatepons refused to die. It's melty time

[round rune]

I thought they'd retire to green pastures and live peacefully at the camp 😔

"Retire"
They melt into goop

[tiny tundra]

Instead you pile drived them into the pafter life

[round rune]

Being able to level them up in 2 sounds a lot nicer tho

[edgy reef]

I have no bloody sympathy for these walking eyeballs that are always negging me yet can't move an inch without me. Melt, you little pricks, melt!

[round rune]

Grinding this meat mission for some more monies to make a few better pons before I continue

[edgy reef]

And this is coming from someone who reset a stage if they hit Slippy in Star Fox.

[round rune]

If this BON BON BOBON mfer gives me some rocks

[edgy reef]

2 sounds like a much better game, wish that had been nominated instead.

[round rune]

That's next month, right?

[edgy reef]

I'm not sure that's the best idea, best give it at least a year so the people playing have the time to forget how frustrating it can be, and only remember the unique ideas and nice aesthetic.

[tiny tundra]

Im pulling for Jurassic June personally.

[ancient talon]

Then Pata 3 for Just for me July

where I vote for games that are just for me

(Its my bday month)

lol

[edgy reef]

Oh right, I should check the champions lounge to see what themes are available. Jurassic June would allow for Dino Crisis!

[tiny tundra]

Thats why im pulling for it.

[ancient talon]

I feel like there are a lot of games with dinos for the pre-96 and 96-01 cats

But what about the 02 plus?

[round rune]

You guys must not be squeezing your cheeks to the beat

[edgy reef]

Honestly this... but hey, that would force us to play obscure games for once, so it still gets my vote.

[ancient talon]

Sorry neo pata 2 does not, in my book, count without an egregious bending of that theme lol

Theres 2 dino bosses

no lol

[round rune]

There's dinosaurs in it

[ancient talon]

TWO

lol

Hell I'd rather see tomb raider win

Cause you know everyone shit their pants when that first T-Rex popped out

[round rune]

Oooh, I did just get the remasters from Choice last month

But I want Dino Crisis

Learned the defense song and just beat the absolute hell outta that dinosaur

[tiny tundra]

? Jurassic June im going for Dino Crisis 1 or EVO Search for Eden.

I will champion the shit out of EVO

[round rune]

They put the dino head on the alter. Sick af

These Patas don't play

[tiny tundra]

Let me play the weird snes rpg where i get to eat enemies and evolve.

[round rune]

Which is the best unit to use this succulent meat on first? An axe man?

I can go big meat and big wood if I go grind some money lol

[edgy reef]

Very good and unique game. Not as good as the original on PC-96 (Or 97 I can't recall) with it's absolute bonkers plot, but still one that is worth being experienced.

[tiny tundra]

Your spears and archers should generally have a prio on rare pons, then your tanks.

[edgy reef]

I'm at the end game and still find Tatepons to be usefu, so yes.

I think I will beat the game with Tatepons (axe), Yumipons(archer) and Megapons (bards?)

[tiny tundra]

Megapons. My beloved

[edgy reef]

Dekapons (club) are good for that one Gong mission, Yaripons (spear) are good until you get Megapons, and Kibapons (horse) are just useless

[round rune]

Anyway, I think I'll stop there for the day, I'm like 2.5h in and beat that first dinosaur

Game is very charming. Idk how rough it gets later lol, but I'm having a good time so far

Spank them bottoms!

How do we request a Patapon emote?

[woeful helm]

If I didn't hate the game, maybe lol

Back in the day before we maxed out on emotes I would do one new emote per GotM game. Maybe I can do that again and cycle then out each month...

Some are still leftovers like

For example

[tiny tundra]

[round rune]

The Wario thumbs up and dead Mario are great, tho

[edgy reef]

Done

I'm torn on this game... on one hand, it's charming, has a good aesthetic, and the basic idea is good.

I think Neo was the one who said that being able to get through a hard part can feel like a souls game, and yeah, I can agree... when the reason you're losing is not because the game is complete BS, that is.

On the other hand, this really is a game that is in dire need of a sequel. I typically prefer the first entry in a franchise (Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Resident Evil, Fatal Frame, etc), but there's no way what can be the case here. So many things done poorly.

The grind is almost unbearable. The rythm is far too harsh. The Patapons walk too slow. It's freaking obtuse at points and forces you to look up guides. The patapons are far too annoying for their own good.

I don't regret playing it. I'm glad a game like this won musical may instead of burn out.

But the moments where it's really frustrating really get to you. I've only been here since March, but this is the hardest game so far.

Also, Megapons come far too late. So much of the game would have been so much better if they came earlier.

[wintry hare]

I say get rid of one these

emotes refresh would be nice

We could vote on which ones to keep

[edgy reef]

Oh, and for those curious, I played this in a Cube XX with default settings, and managed to finish it just fine. I compared it to my real PSP and didn't notice much of a difference.

Though this also coming from someone who never quite managed to keep fevers going and relied on grinding and divine stews, so... take it as you will.

[sterile bluff]

I agree with all the criticisms of the game and somehow I was still motivated to finish it, and I don't usually make myself finish every gotm

[edgy reef]

Well, of course. You finish it so those negging Patapons can go shove it.

[sterile bluff]

no, I wouldn't say I hate-played the game

[edgy reef]

I do try to finish all GotM (so far) but at points that was the only thing keeping me going

Stop freaking insulting me when you can't even move more than four steps without your literal god drumming you into it!

[tiny tundra]

Good stuff

[sterile bluff]

that aspect ratio hurts to look at #1102540186790928415 message

[edgy reef]

Heh, don't care. Didn't matter for a game where I spent 90% focusing on a flashing white border.

[woeful helm]

Peak gameplay lmao

[round rune]

You've gotta feel the rhythm 🥁

[tiny tundra]

Feel the rhyme?

Get on up, it's patapon time?

[zenith bay]

A great leader is unbiased

[empty burrow]

Mate, Ive developed a verbal tic for "don dondon dondon"

Im literally 2 days of missing my meds to becoming one with Hatapon

[ivory swan]

Quick dumb question: should I be sideloading PPSSPP from the site or something or grabbing it off Google Play? The RA core is getting slowdown that isn't there in the standalone (my version of the standalone is just outdated)

[blazing basin]

Mine is just off Google Play

[zenith bay]

If you're not using PPSSPP Gold, you don't deserve PPSSPP

[zenith bay]

I like to think that after they say Don Dondon Dondon, they all say "Mommy" in unison

[tiny tundra]

I got the Smith last night

Have so much kaching right now

Feeling rich af

[tiny tundra]

Man, I cant wait to get my megapon. Gonna retire my spears

[round rune]

My sons

[tiny tundra]

Ill still have em, but i have them all at like, Gekolos(the yellow rarepon) and dont wanna sink the resources to take them higher when im going to run doot boys and archers.

[round rune]

That's fair, I haven't run into the doot boys to see how they stack up

But I do like hitting fever and seeing the absolute tidal wave of spears and arrows raining down on my enemies

[zenith bay]

Solution: run the dooters, but take out axe bros. Rain down music, spears, and arrows

[round rune]

The last thing my enemies see

Pon-Pon-Pata-Pon

[zenith bay]

You forgot to whisper "motherfucker" at the end

[tiny tundra]

Actually what some people do.

Drop the Tates, run doots, all ranged team.

[zenith bay]

I wonder if anybody takes out the ranged and runs Tates, Dekas, and Kipis (or kibi or whatever they are)

The chaotic evil path

[tiny tundra]

That sounds so miserable given some story missions

[round rune]

I seem to do better hunting meat when I leave the axe boys at home and just bring spear/bow

Those round birds die like the above gif lmao

[zenith bay]

There's an in-game tip that says leave your axe boys at home even

[round rune]

Oh, really? I guess I'm just a genius

[tiny tundra]

Yea, you leave the melee at home hunting meat

[round rune]

I was born to be Kamipon

[tiny tundra]

Man, now that lucky star is unlocked, everytime i see it without rain, im in there.

Gimme that fast kaching

[edgy reef]

Megapons truly are a game changer, it made the end game almost a breeze. If you're not going to grind for anything else, save to make the best megapons and give them the best weapons you can, and you're golden.

I did feel like still taking my tatepons to those last was the better choice, if only because they go ahead in formation and become meat shields for your megapons. Maybe Dekapons would be better, but I didn't check if they go ahead of the megapons or not.

[round rune]

Ngl, setting up the rain kinda kicked my ass. Gonna take some getting used to that

But just got through the first desert level

[split crystal]

Yeah, the miracles are rough, probably my least favorite part of the game -- just got the wind one. It's hard enough not to immediately screw up the first measure after starting fever, but the miracle rhythm is even more error-prone. And then once you do it successfully, the minigame goes on way longer than it should, and the actual effect duration is so short you'll have to do the whole thing over way too soon.

At this point I've just unlocked dekapon, but trying to decide if it's worth investing in them. I've been putting most of my investment into archers, and picking which of the other two to bring based on the mission.

[tiny tundra]

Honestly. Archers are the better investment

[split crystal]

Good to hear. I figured pumping out damage at range should be useful pretty much all the time, and since they're in the back hopefully they won't get eaten like my first rarepon axe guy. I've mostly been leaning on the cavalry to support them because I got lucky with some upgraded weapon drops for them, but haven't actually made any rare versions just yet.

[sterile bluff]

the extra units were useful for maybe one mission each and then not again. spent too much kaching on them.

[tiny tundra]

Kiba are ok if you maintain fevers really well
Deka are ok
Doots are the truth and deal crazy damage

[round rune]

In my sleep, I hear their chants. Pon-Pon-Pata-Pon

[polar cave]

Not sure how I feel about this game yet

I just got to a desert level that started burning all my guys so I guess I have to wait for rain?

The gameplay makes it feel like I’m not participating very much

It’s like it’s just playing itself

Maybe it gets more complex later on

[edgy reef]

No, the game will not make it rain on that level. You have to obtain a rain miracle, equip it before mission, and set it off on that desert level once you reach the sign.

[polar cave]

Where do i get that?

[edgy reef]

||First off, go to the hunting grounds. Now that you have the chaka/triangle drum, walk your patapons up to that sign with triangle - circle -triangle- circle; you can actually do this song now. Play that button combo next to the sign until it completely pops out of the ground, and it will spit out a compass.||

||That compass will open up another level. Go there, beat another boss, and get the rain miracle. Then equip it at the formation screen, on the drum right beneath your dancing dude, and go to the desert level. You have to build up a fever right before the sign that warns you of the scorching desert, and then make your way while the miracle lasts. You might have to set it off twice, so you have to set off another fever.||

As a head's up, unlocking the rest of the miracles and minigames can be an obtuse head scratcher, so don't be afraid to ask when you get stuck again.

[polar cave]

Ahh thanks

I was wondering about that ||sign|| earlier and forgot about it

[edgy reef]

You welcome. Be wary that even the bloody ||sign|| is picky about rhythm though, so it can take a while. Don't get discouraged, you're doing it right.

[ivory swan]

Forgive me mother for I have sinned

[blazing basin]

It's hard not to find them endearing when they praise you so wholeheartedly, up until you march them to their deaths 💀

[tiny tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/mitchell-and-webb-are-we-the-baddies-goodies-baddies-world-war-2-wwii-gif-4699632647233780562

[blazing basin]

https://tenor.com/view/its-a-ver-strong-maybe-bohdi-tulsa-king-s1e9-its-very-likely-gif-27419032

[ancient talon]

So at some point in my existence I'm PRETTY SURE I beat 2 but yeah definitely never beat this one before tonight

Definitely leaned heavily on stews and megapons

[ivory swan]

So far I am a damn sight better at this than I am at Tony Hawk

I slip sometimes, but I can typically keep going well into Fever

I'm not even using some technique for keeping time. Apparently my brain can just do four rests without consistent feedback to keep the time I guess

[round rune]

You're quite possibly built different

[ivory swan]

Don't get me wrong, I eventually slip

[round rune]

At the start, I had an easy time getting Fever, but would lose it almost immediately. But I've been getting better, I can usually keep it like 60-70% of the mission now

But then I unlocked the rain blessing and that was kinda kicking my ass a little

[ivory swan]

I don't have that yet. I just got archers a mission or two ago and the blank map now

[round rune]

I do worry if I'll start struggling endgame, but it's very charming

I love my patapon sons

[ivory swan]

I don't know how I feel about it yet. Other than that I'm at least getting on better with it than I am with the skateboard game

...uh, how many axe guys are you supposed to lose to the dragon monster the first time around

OK, this level is hard to recover your beat in if you lose it 😦

Mixing defense into the rhythm definitely makes keeping my shit together a bit harder

The way the pons sing when you get fever going in this one is really worth it tho. They get so fired up

[supple meteor]

I am new to PPSSPP. Do you guys use any shaders?

[vale current]

This game got pretty grindy

How do I get more stones to drop?

Right now after a bad desert crossing I have no tatepons

Only drop is a rare titanium from tree

[sterile bluff]

Probably too early for you to have the mountain mini game?

I think it’s just hunting at that point and rng

[vale current]

I missed the snail so only have tree minigame

[sterile bluff]

Tree sometimes gives you stone

[vale current]

The desert kacheek can drop stones

[tiny tundra]

You can do the hunting stage, make it ran at thr start and the snail will spawn.

[round rune]

Oh, does the snail give you another minigame? I think I also missed it

You can just make it rain on the very first hunting stage? I'll do that next time then lol

[vale current]

Thanks

[tiny tundra]

The hunting stage DIRECTLY after the desert crossing, if you make it rain in the beginning, the snail appears on that level.

[round rune]

Good to know, thank you

[vale current]

These drops are rare

Hour grind and only two titanium drops

[ivory swan]

Still slip up sometimes on the different songs, but I noticed a pattern in the three main songs so far (move, attack, defend)

each one has two of the same note in the first half and "pata pon" in the back half. Maybe instead of thinking of them as four discrete notes, I should be thinking of each one in terms of the leading notes

Defend is double chaka, move is double pata, attack is double pon.

[vale current]

I mean yeah but then you’ll get retreat song

[ivory swan]

Oh. Don't mind me, then

[vale current]

No reason to over think it

[ivory swan]

Yeah my issue was that sometimes I fuck up the attack song (pon pon pon pata instead of pon pon pata pon)

Because I'm thinking of it in terms of three repeated notes and then a different note, rather than two repeated notes and then pata pon

[vale current]

Whatever works for you

[zenith bay]

You should have reset if you lost that many caps

[vale current]

Well it worked out in the end

[ivory swan]

I admit, this game feels a bit awkward on a portable. Like power-wise it makes sense, but as far as the game itself goes, it feels like it really wants you deeply focused on the rhythm and chanting "PON PON PATA PON!" along with your worshipers, which is a good way to miss your bus stop and/or be kicked off the bus

Speaking of: bob your head or something if you can't sing along with them. Helps to keep you on beat. You'll start hitting fever in three sets

this fucking dragon

||can it eat your tatepons even when they're guarding?||

||because it seems to be eating my tatepons even when I'm defending||

[vale current]

Shield vs big blue dragon. Who would win?

[ivory swan]

Big blue dragon I guess, but I feel like not getting your pons eaten should be a skill thing

Do you have to have a certain combo level or something? Because I have been getting really hit or miss with my rhythm lately. Sometimes I hit Fever on my third set and then lose it right after

I'm gonna start playing this at home where I can just chant along with the pons

[vale current]

Yeah it can be hard to keep fever sometimes

Apparently if you do perfect inputs fever triggers sooner in the combo

[ivory swan]

Yes, it does. You can get it very early if you figure out how to stay tightly on rhythm

I do not want to do this mission without fever because they just get so fired up with their song in fever mode on this level

[zenith bay]

4 perfects in a row is early fever. Otherwise you get it on 10

Fever is basically a requirement for most stages. Don't think of fever as a bonus, but think of losing your fever as a punishment

[ivory swan]

That explains why I'm having trouble with this boss

[empty burrow]

Got my main frontliner with ultra rare sword and Shield fucking SMOTE by the last boss, JUST as the last volley fell him.

No Hat, No Restart, ded.

I Loved you woolly, you were the absolute goat. Literally.

Going for flinch was a mistake.

Damn what a game, going into patapon 2 very soon, I loved this so much. Im very sorry for those it didnt jive with.

[round rune]

Woolly, gone but never forgotten. He gave everything for his Kamipon

[empty burrow]

Hes been with me since Red Dragon. Went out in a blaze of glory. A hero in sheeps clothing.

[zenith bay]

It feels like kind of a shame that there's no post-game content. Rekilling bosses dozens of times doesn't count. I want to see extra content, but honestly I wouldn't even do it because grinding an army is kind of boring. Not sure why I want content I wouldn't do. Just feels like it would fit

[round rune]

Time to play Patapon 2+3 and wait for Ratatan

[zenith bay]

It's Ratatan by some of the devs from Japan Studio?

[round rune]

I've been taking it pretty slow, but just went back and killed the snail to get the other minigame I missed and fought the big desert worm and unlocked Kibapon

[round rune]

I'm honestly not sure, I haven't looked too deep into who was actually making it and such

[empty burrow]

Agreed, Like I already grinded the bosses for resources to get to the end. Why keep going after that?

Megapons are broken, even with gekopon

[round rune]

Is it even worth putting resources into Kibapon?

Seems like most people rocked axe/horn/bow as far as I could tell

[spring badger]

Even by this logic, the retreat song makes sense because it is "pata pon" in reverse in order to retreat

If you enjoyed this game, please support the official release in July! That's the best way to fully revive this franchise

[empty burrow]

I didnt find a use for them excwpt in 1 very spwcific level but I couldnt tell you what is was.

Also wasted a Mogyoon on a dekopon that I stoppes using all together, felt awful.

[empty burrow]

I did bow spear horn for the Zigaton levels after I got them, axes for bosses only

[tiny tundra]

Yea, and the game designer Hiroyuki Kotani who made patapon.

[empty burrow]

Japan Studio, my beloved. Is Tokyo Jungle even obtainable these days?

[queen mural]

I’ve found this game more enjoyable to play with a controller (I’m using a new dual shock) and with my index and middle fingers on pon and pata

[ivory swan]

Tfw this month we're doing two games just before they get rereleased

[polar cave]

Easy solution for thps, just get thps 4 to win the month its remaster releases too

[tiny tundra]

Yea, perfect time to play patapon 1 and thps3 and then do the remasters of p2 and thps4

[empty burrow]

Hot damn is the perfect window in Patapon 2 forgiving. Semi-Consistent measure 3 fever proc, typically wont drop unless someome distracts me.

[lunar fox]

the remaster of thps4 is so different compared to the original that it’s a a separate game entirely

[vale current]

So grindy this could be an Korean mmo

[molten depot]

Ya except Korean mmos are fun 🙂

[tiny tundra]

Patapon is also fun for some of us. 🙂

[vale current]

I’m having fun

Just can’t shut brain off and grind

Have to pay attention to the beats

[tiny tundra]

Upgrading my tatepons then I can just, march through the rest of the game.

Got my doot boys and got both the gold horn and gold bow from the smith

[tiny tundra]

I had to unequip my stew from the save the princess quest cause it was giving my weapons fire and setting the cart on fire.

[ancient talon]

Yeah I played the damn blacksmith minigame a bunch of times. Accidentally saved over my one save on my first perfect gold weapon (on my psp go only kept 1 save file) not realizing I had a lance, thought it was a weapon for the yaripons.

Then I reset like 10 times after getting crappy weapons for Kibapons, Megapons, and shields

Finally settled on a golden bow

And the "waste" of a golden lance for kibas

[zenith bay]

I read the order you get is set for your save file, so you would have always gotten the lance first

Or is that not actually true?

[tiny tundra]

Thats what I thought but my first two were the Megapon horn and the Bow, so i kinda dont need anything else

Have the gold bow on my maxed archer.

[ancient talon]

Interesting

But after I saved and just kept reloading for my second weapon

It changed every time

[zenith bay]

Damn, the Internet lied to me again

[tiny tundra]

Tales just getting lied to this month

[vale current]

Ugg the mini games are bad

But overall game is pretty fun

Love how the art style held up

[ivory swan]

all right what the fuck

this boss just ate my tatepon while I was guarding in fever mode

Can they just do that?

Like I had fever mode going for several cycles, too

(my rhythm is getting better)

[ancient talon]

Yeah uh. You gotta run

[ivory swan]

Yeah they didn't give me the retreat song yet. I've been trying to finish this mission without casualties

it is so cute how fired-up they get in fever mode in boss fights

idk maybe it's not actually possible to avoid losing tatepons by playing correctly in this mission or something

[ancient talon]

You may be able to do a side mission and go get the retreat song before beating this guy

[ivory swan]

I'm not sure if I have access to any side missions

this is the one where you get the chaka drum (tambourine? maraca? whatsit?)

(yes I'm very slow to get around to seriously moving on the gotms)

[ancient talon]

Which dragon are you fighting? Blue or Red?

[ivory swan]

Blue

Is there a different one I could be fighting right now? Was there some choice I made earlier on that determined which dragon I'm fighting? Is it random?

[ancient talon]

You have to kill the pink bird in the desert crossing to unlock the boss fight to get the retreat song

So yeah you're not there yet

I... don't think the blue dragon can permanantly eat your pons?

If they drop a cap (looks like the basic wooden helm) they will auto revive after the mission

[ivory swan]

Oh! Yeah they were dropping their caps. I didn't realize they were just being yeeted out, not killed

[ancient talon]

Yep! No worries. The NEXT dragon you fight has a different attack pattern and can permadeath your pons

[ivory swan]

gulp.

So, regarding this one's pattern

||I've been using the defense song both when it's inhaling and when it has its head lowered for a physical attack. Should I only be using the defense song when it's inhaling?||

[ancient talon]

Nah definitely defend through either attack.

The only time you want to keep attacking is once its health is getting a bit low and you're "pretty sure" you're going to stagger the boss

[ivory swan]

Oh, so don't switch back and forth between defending and then attacking between attacks, just lock down and let the ranged pons chip away at it?

[ivory swan]

so fuck this desert

[ivory swan]

yeah I'm at a bit of a loss here

Also are we really limited to three sets of three? Hmm.

...

fighting the other dragon now

||is there really nothing we can do to keep our pons from getting eaten? I don't have the retreat song yet||

[empty burrow]

Best option ive found before getting retreat is spacing, stop pata-poning as soon as your tatepons go frowny, then use Chakapon to pull them back out of range when the chomp tell starts.

[ivory swan]

Got it, thanks

[empty burrow]

Youd be surprised how far theyll run from hatapon.

Biggest gripe though with early game, they throw things at you that you have no hope of dealing with.

[ivory swan]

My spear guys keep getting rekt in this fight

starting to wonder if I should replace them with more bow guys, or if that'd just invite trouble

[empty burrow]

Can never go wrong with more bow

[ivory swan]

If I put a bow unit in the middle, will they hang back more than the spear guys would still?

Because my bow guys in the rear aren't really getting hit. The spear guys who don't have shields are getting hit pretty hard

[ivory swan]

yeah this guy's a bastard and I'm struggling pretty hard with him

[zenith bay]

Surprised you're struggling so much. Are you marching right up to his feet? Get just into range and attack. When you defend, they should back up enough to avoid his death attack. Or maybe it's his death attack doesn't work when you're defending? I definitely didn't get eaten on the dragon

[ivory swan]

His death attack definitely works when defending

I am still managing to lose pons, but maybe I'm not being cautious enough. I try to sneak in pon-pon-pata-pon where I can, but maybe I should be locking down hard and sticking to chaka-chaka-pata-pon instead of trying to sneak in attack orders

[tiny tundra]

Can only have 1 set of units

So, one thing that helps is trying to max out your Yuri and Yumis. Wanna get both sets to 6 units as soon as possible.

Keep your fever up and press the attack as much as possible. Make sure if you got weapon upgrades youre equipping them.

You'll also want to slowly rotate in some rarepons for each unit set.

[ivory swan]

Oh, I can have more than three units in a set? I didn't know that

[tiny tundra]

The max is 6 per.

[ivory swan]

Oh damn I should definitely be making some more then

I'm rolling with three axes, three spears, three bows right now

[tiny tundra]

Yea. You wanna be something like (from the back to front)
X/6/3

Right now.

Cause you dont need 6 tatepon, but if you can get it, heck yea.

[ivory swan]

Oh, max out spears first?

[tiny tundra]

Thats a lot of why you're losing units early, you dont have enough damage to flinch them out.

[ivory swan]

that explains some shit yeah

[tiny tundra]

Early on yea.

[ivory swan]

I've got some iron I can use to make some extra bows or spears

Spears before bows?

[tiny tundra]

Yea, mostly cause it's harder to get max bows before the desert crossing, if you can cause you got lucky, go for it. But spears you'll have a lot of mats for.

[ivory swan]

I think I have some iron I can use to get some extra bows, but duly noted, ty

[tiny tundra]

I dont think I've perma lost a patapon yet. I've had to cap pick up a few on some gnarly missions, but i bounced both dragons ezpz.

There are units with a 3 cap limit, but it's the specialized units like the Kiba and Megapons

[ivory swan]

Oh! I can choose to use a better mat than is required. Does that increase my chances of getting a rarepon?

[tiny tundra]

The empty circle spaces show how much you can have

[ivory swan]

also I think I just got a rarepon

[tiny tundra]

Rarepons aren't chances. Theyre a combination.

[ivory swan]

I have a Gekolos

I don't remember using a tytanium tho

[tiny tundra]

I ran with an all Gekolos spear team until I got megapon

[ivory swan]

maybe I should be putting in the tender meats to get rarepons tho

[tiny tundra]

Cause yaripon need meat + trees and you can get better tree mats through Ubo

[ivory swan]

oh yeah I used a hinoki. I thought the mat got rarer because of some getting more expensive the more of a pon you have thing

Should I restart and use my hinoki for something else, or is a gekolos yaripon a perfectly good thing to have right now

not that I really know what the properties of these special pons are

I should probably be using my tender meats tho now that I have them

assuming more rare pons is better

[tiny tundra]

So ignoring the current color. This was more or less what my team was until I got megapon

Thats what it currently is.

[tiny tundra]

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/psp/942065-patapon/faqs/51864

Jump down to unit combos.

But mostly its higher stats.

[ivory swan]

Should I be using the tender meats and such as much as possible?

maybe I should reload and use the tender meats instead of the leather ones, since I have a few

[tiny tundra]

Generally yea, cause you're gonna be drowning in them if you do the hunting stages, cause iirc tender are from the birds early on.

[ivory swan]

OK, so get the rarest pons I can, got it

[tiny tundra]

Like. For your Yuri, you can aim for gekolos early on. Yumi if you get the mats, go for Tikus.

Your tatepons getting rareponned are the lowest prio. 1 or 2, but focus on your dps first.b

Even if you just make all basic pons out the gate, aim for 6 spears, then 6 bows.

[vale current]

Just unlocked Fatpons

Are they worth investing in?

[tiny tundra]

Dekas? Up to you. I personally dont.

[vale current]

Never used horsepons

[vale current]

Oh yeah couldn’t remember the name

Ogrepon missed opportunity

[tiny tundra]

My honest opinion is use tatepons and go either spears and bows or doots and bows.

[ivory swan]

Gekolos for spears and tikus for bows? Are the bows a higher priority for the extra dps?

I used a Hinoki to get that Gekolos when I could've used a Tender Meat for it rip

but I am glad to hear that I was in fact doing something wrong in a way that I can rectify it and start rolling face

[tiny tundra]

Bows fire 3 arrows per shot during a fever, and gekolos for spears early is fine because their damage is front loaded.

So they benefit more from the higher damage early on.

[ivory swan]

oh, Tikus are crit machines, I see now

[tiny tundra]

The other thing, and a general tip for all

If you max out units and wanna remake one into a rarepon,
Go to any mission select
Equipment
Select on the patapon you want to retire. You'll keep the gear they have on, it empties that one unit bubble so you can remake.

[tiny tundra]

Yar.

Geko spears are just a cheap early on unit to make that'll give you a massive damage spike. Later on if you're keeping spears, reroll them to tikus too

[ivory swan]

oh, fair enough

should probably be using my tender meats for that instead of hinokis

[tiny tundra]

Meats are insanely plentiful

[ivory swan]

is there a particular reason that bows are worth splurging for tikus early on, or are gekolos bows a good early-game pon too?

[tiny tundra]

Bows just have a higher damage cap when equipped properly because they'll get the crit mod + bow damage + 3 per patapon (18 hits on a full squad) + out range bulk of attacks

The other main reason are bows are expensive units and also need iron ores

Cause they're branch + ore

[ivory swan]

So I don't want to be making lower-grade rares as opposed to putting in the best wood to go with the ore. got it

[tiny tundra]

Geko spears are super cheap to make money wise and because it's meat + branch.

[ivory swan]

oooh, what about Pykolas? Nothing special in dps but I see concussion chance

[tiny tundra]

And you get t2 meat from birds.

[tiny tundra]

You can if you're planning on doing a hyper boss flinch farm team.

But honestly for the sake of getting the gotm point, geko to tiku

[ivory swan]

fair 'nough

all right I need a nap, toodles

[tiny tundra]

Tiku are more than enough to get through the game

Then you can do moga for your tatepons

[ivory swan]

thank you for the help, I was pretty lost

[vale current]

https://tenor.com/view/patapon-patapon3-blake7020-yaripon-yarida-gif-19391340

[tiny tundra]

Its a lot early on

[vale current]

Current team, just beat the ||golem||

Farming for bow peeps

[tiny tundra]

Ima farm up my tates then march towards the end of the game

[ancient talon]

Yeah I had a pretty meh team as far as rarepons

But basically if you just use Divine stews any mission you can't beat goes from hard to totally manageable

[sterile bluff]

horsepons were useful for those levels where you escorted the catapult

[tiny tundra]

This is me rn

We march on the birds for money

[ancient talon]

I had zero of the top tier Rarepons. A yellow and a spiky doot, one or two rare yumipons, and like 2 rare Tate's

[tiny tundra]

Dats fair. Theyre not needed, but it scratches that part of my brain

[ancient talon]

Nothing was too difficult with Stew's. I'd try the mission and if the patapons were the one's getting their bottoms spanked, I just retried with a stew and chugged through it

[tiny tundra]

Save the princess spanked my bottom for using a stew

[ancient talon]

I like the game but yeah after 10 hours I was ready to be done. Same with Links Awakening, after getting like 60% through the Eagles Tower I was ready for it to be over so I just used a guide and breezed through the last dungeon

On to Tony Hawk and I'm not good at it

Played for maybe....1hr 10 mins last night and got all goals on the foundry and like 3 or so in canada

[tiny tundra]

Finished LA last night, so all I have is the rest of pata

[ancient talon]

I wish I could beat Tony Hawk in like another hour and go back to Oblivion but

Its going to take me awhile

[elder void]

Got the Tatepon this morning, if you want an idea for how little of this I played. But the little quest with kicking the shit out of walls was fun

[ancient talon]

If Gay see's this (let me tag em) @ivory swan - Don't overthink this one too hard. Basically

• you're still early on. Fill out your teams with 6 of each pon first even if they're basic units. The only pons you're limited to 3 on are the "upgraded units" the horsemen, the big club wielders, and the Megapons that use trumpets
• If you get the desert crossing hunting mission and rain miracle, you can farm money there
• Do Rarepons as you can but they're not strictly needed to finish the game
• push through the story missions to get better gear and unlock more crap - and do the hunting mission with spears and archers only when you need resources.
• Bosses until you have the retreat song, guard when they attack, and otherwise attack them as much as possible.
• you can't move squad positions around. Tate's always go in the front, yari's in the middle, yumi's in the back.

[ancient talon]

I think my biggest problem is this game starts out cute and fun, and about 40-60% of the game is totally managable. Then you hit a wall somewhere around 2/3rd of the way through where the difficulty (in my humble opinion) really ramps up. Then the game gets sorta frustrating and tedious

[elder void]

It does genuinely feel like a game I'd have found fun as a kid but never finished

I strive to do better this time

[ancient talon]

That is 100% what happened to me. And replaying it, It looks like I beat 2 at some point but never finished this one

But yeah I really really liked 1 and 2 as kids but could never beat them cause the difficulty goes parabolic at some point (for me)

As an adult, looking stuff up, and understanding the mechanics a little better. It wasn't tooooo bad

But I wouldn't say this is an "easy" game overall

There are things you can do (unlock the minigames and stuff) to make it easier on yourself, but as a whole I'd say the game brings a challenge to the average person

[elder void]

Makes sense to me

I think if I had more time and weren't basically trying to complete it with the lowest time investment, it seems like the kind of game that benefits from that

[ancient talon]

Yeah I mean. I beat it in 10 hours or so, with probably another hour or two in restarted missions (no states, played on a psp go) so its not a terribly long game, but yeah some grinding is pretty much required in this one

[tiny tundra]

I guess to chime in on this.

2 is strictly a better game. If you go to 2 after playing 1 it basically eradicated a lot of general complaints people have. Like the beat timing is more generous, you dont need to crush a patapon to make a new unit, patapon level up, etc. They vastly improve on the base formula of 1 to 2. 1 is a fun game and yea it can be hard, but 2 is easily the best in the series.

[zenith bay]

Maybe you could say 1 brings the charm, 2 brings the polish

[tiny tundra]

Absolutely this

I like 1, I'm glad it won, having a lot of fun with it. I know it'll probably be a cold day in hell before I can get 2 to win, but I'm glad people gave it a shot

[tiny tundra]

Ezmoney

Refought the golem. Got a horn. Blessed.

Just need one more.

1 horn and 1800 more kaching

[tiny tundra]

There we goooo

[tiny tundra]

Well. I finish patapon tomorrow. On the final mission. Would finish it right now but my dial is at home.

[ivory swan]

Honestly while I'm still getting my head around this game, I'm liking it so far

This is, like, legitimately creative, and I'm glad I was one of the 2-vote margin that carried it over the finish line against the car game with the licensed soundtrack

[queen mural]

Made it through the rescue. Feel I’m stuck till I do a lot more grinding…

Getting so few resources each time it feels like just a waste…

[oblique hatch]

Realized it’s only May 13, there’s still hope for me to turn the tide on this one and 3/3. Just need to figure out where I was / where to go to get the rain thingy cuz I’m at the desert crossing.

[oblique hatch]

something clicked and I got my first early fever it surprised the heck out of me lol

[tiny tundra]

you need to kill the other dragon, you get it after killing one of the birds.

[oblique hatch]

Okay but the cool units cost too much so I gotta kill these animals a million times real quick

[ivory swan]

Hmm. I don't think I have access to Tikus yet for my blues

I could use cherry tree branches and make Pykos, or I could just fill out three extra vanilla archers

Pykos at least have a small damage boost

I've gotten an extra hinoki and a bunch of cherry branches from Ubo

Don't know if I'm not doing it well enough to get whatever the top-tier wood is, or if I don't unlock that until later

[ivory swan]

...damn, keeping the miracle going is actually pretty hard

eh. might need a few more bows to break through this ||snail|| maybe idk

[oblique hatch]

Made it across the desert! Imma do this. Imma keep the 3/3 up

[round rune]

I believe in you

I'm like 2-3 missions after the desert, been getting hella distracted by Expedition 33 this last week lol

Gotta get back to spanking some bottoms

[oblique hatch]

Yeah I had to beat e33 to come back lol

[ivory swan]

oh hey zakpon get

[round rune]

I haven't beaten E33 yet, but I'm getting close

[ivory swan]

the desert is kind of a bitch. I ||waited to activate the rain miracle until after I broke the first rock in the desert area, then bent over backwards to keep fever up, and only had to recast the miracle once towards the end of the hot zone||

[round rune]

My cousin's been busy so I've had a lot more solo game time this week

[round rune]

I seriously suck at activating the rain miracle. The last double note gets me every time

Can get fever going and keep it going fairly well, but the miracle has hands lol

[ivory swan]

I dislike that my fever ends after casting the miracle

[round rune]

Yeah, I was also wondering that. Couldn't really tell if losing fever was intended or if I was just messing something up

[ivory swan]

I'm not sure either tbh

Pop Bean is kicking my ass

can't even catch a fucking vegetable wtf

...I can apparently use vegetables instead of meat when summoning certain pons? but I have no idea what this does

all right, learned how to catch veggies

||according to Reddit, hit circle when the veggie crosses the part of Pop Bean's stem that hangs over Zakpon||

||for the first one, anyway. the rest are in rhythm with how they got popped out I think||

[empty burrow]

Bows, Spears, Doots.

I aint no coward.

[ancient talon]

The miracle just dies out really quick lol. Its on a timer and the timer is not long

[oblique hatch]

I didn’t have any issues with the miracle mini game, it was very similar to a rhythm tengoku level and I just beat that recently when it wasn’t selected

[tiny tundra]

I should be finishing today

Just have the final mission

[round rune]

The minigame itself is fine, it's the the X-XX-XX to summon it and start the minigame that gives me issues

[oblique hatch]

Are the special units you get from using better Patapon … ingredients … good enough to justify that they can’t wear hats?

[spring badger]

It depends. Some rarepons have lower resistances to certain elements, making them worse than a normal Patapon or other rarepons

[tiny tundra]

3 on beat notes with 2 half notes.
Beat X
Beat X twice
Beat X Twice

The issue people have is mashing it, but it's just a rhythm

[tiny tundra]

Low rarepons not really.

If you're in the Tiku range or higher, basically the last 3, absolutely

[oblique hatch]

Rate my dudes

[tiny tundra]

Colorful/10

[oblique hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/space-dog-noidea-noideawhatimdoing-gif-5078578

[tiny tundra]

Do any of us?

[oblique hatch]

So you’re saying I shouldn’t have made like most of these dudes lol, spiky hair or better?

[ancient talon]

Didn't have any issues....the first 5 times you did it. However you will the 70th time you do it lol

[tiny tundra]

So, my general suggestion is

Make basics for every type.

Make Gekolos for spears, the yellow ones. This can be upgraded later if you plan on sticking with them

As you get the mats, upgrade bows to Tiku

Your axepons you can do like mofeel if you want or wait until you can comfortably make Mogyoons.

[oblique hatch]

You really need the rain that much?

[tiny tundra]

You don't need rares to get through the story. Can get by using stews when you unlock it.

[ancient talon]

Between manipulating the weather on farming missions for unlocks, the 3 or so missions that called for rain, then the other few miracles (with slightly different inputs to "launch" the miracle) you'll have to miracle 40 times by the time you get through the game

[oblique hatch]

That was rough

[ancient talon]

Pon Pon Pata Pon!

[oblique hatch]

Only one bow dude perm died tho so I guess not that bad

[tiny tundra]

[oblique hatch]

I wish doing the mini game perfect would keep your fever for miracles. Also just eliminate kaching please

[zenith bay]

I really can't understand why they thought kaching was a mechanic worth using. Surely any amount of playtesters would have told them that all it makes them do is repeat stages that give nothing but money

[oblique hatch]

Probably the point, just padding

[oblique hatch]

Lol… I dropped my fever early on the level despair so I quit at the beginning || and it moved the story forward because I guess you’re supposed to fail anyway lol speed run hack ||

[tiny tundra]

I mean. Tbf kaching isnt some massive time sink farm.

That was my final team for the story, and i clocked in at 11 1/2, and that's a largely unnecessary amount of grinding.

[oblique hatch]

Got the catapult, gonna stop there for now

[tiny tundra]

More like

The patapult

[oblique hatch]

Im coming around to liking it, I think, but only because it hasn’t been that hard for me yet

[tiny tundra]

Fair.

[oblique hatch]

I did keep destroying the catapult, think I had to get some rng luck on my side to get the troops I brought to work right for that part

[outer totem]

Let's see how the patapon chat is going so far!

https://tenor.com/view/dummy-closing-door-gif-1221391299213995366

[tiny tundra]

I am

I had gotten the scythe and felt legally obligated to run tatepons.

[wintry hare]

just a echo chamber on how great the game is

[tiny tundra]

Feels weirdly inaccurate

[wintry hare]

https://tenor.com/view/the-bad-batch-star-wars-star-wars-the-bad-batch-the-bad-batch-echo-star-wars-echo-gif-27242152

[tiny tundra]

Most of the convo has been about units, maps, and bosses.

[oblique hatch]

For my part I’ve been bitching mostly and I voted for it!

[ancient talon]

Yeah I voted for it too. I enjoyed playing it. But I would not say i'm gushing about it. Its a decent enough game but I have my issues with it.

[tiny tundra]

Speaking of

For this guy when you see them stretch out, do your defense song, you take negative damage. Range em out a little and just let your ranged do work during a fevahhhh

[ancient talon]

Happy people tried it and if they hate the game atleast they tried it

And if they hate me, well thats cool too

Lol

[outer totem]

https://tenor.com/view/i-hate-you-anakin-star-wars-gif-10358450

[oblique hatch]

Got the wind juju and beat the tower they advise you use it on, making decent progress

[tiny tundra]

The one with the pata smasher on the end of it?

[oblique hatch]

I think so, if not also that one, I definitely had to deal with a pata smasher

I don’t have retreat yet is that weird? Imma look that up

I used defend as a soft retreat to get away from the smasher lol

[tiny tundra]

Trying to remember what boss it was from

[oblique hatch]

I looked it up I gotta go find a pink bird. I was hunting all wrong until I read in here to leave the axes behind

[tiny tundra]

Yea, you take spears and bows for hunting, you can also take doots later because of how their attack works

They run up, DOOT and it makes a giant sound effect that falls on enemies and does a bunch of damage while up.

Pre fever they shoot a bunch of notes

[oblique hatch]

Went back and got the farmer dude because I got the chef dude

[tiny tundra]

Divine stews my beloved

[ancient talon]

https://tenor.com/view/hate-starwars-gif-5642816

[tiny tundra]

As powerful as a new born kitten

[vale current]

Too annoying to make

[oblique hatch]

Beat the cart level at like the last possible second

[oblique hatch]

Also beat gong. I am loading up on stew errytime I wanna be done with this lol

[oblique hatch]

Attacked the giant enemy crab for massive damage. Seriously going to take a break now

[ancient talon]

Did you flip it over on to its back?

[grand arrow]

Finally getting started on this, how leisurely of a pace can I take things if I want to try sneaking Tony hawk in at the end?

[ancient talon]

Medium

It's not terribly difficult or terribly long

But expect around 10 hrs

[oblique hatch]

yeah I think my play time is something above 8 hours now, just got to the ghoul gate level, but probably need to go back and find stuff, I don't have the earthquake juju yet

I tried horses and they sucked lol

[vale current]

Any tips for the Gong battle where he ||duplicates||?

[tiny tundra]

Try to get as close as possible to him, focus down the adds with tailwind if needed, once he ||clones|| just take them out, they aren't very strong.

[ancient talon]

Yeah Jack just pon pon pata pon

Then do a little pata pata pata pon

and a little more pon pon pata pon

[sterile bluff]

I think that's the mission that caused me to grind for better units

[oblique hatch]

Tailwind was big for that fight, you want your range attacks to reach his buddies, and theirs not to reach you

[tiny tundra]

Yea, the fight is about how fast the buddies go down

[oblique hatch]

gonna try to turn all my archers into spikey bois before I attempt the ghoul gate, kinda hope I can finish this today but not sure how much time I'll spend on it

[ancient talon]

I just used a divine stew lol

Basically missions I needed a stew on were like 4 of the last 6 missions

Try it - fail - use stew - succeed

I had like 2 rarepons per squad

I did use megapons tho

[tiny tundra]

Just dont stew the rescue unless you wanna hear her death rattle.

[ancient talon]

They help A LOT their fever attack adds flame (and so does divine stew I think) and the fire effect reduces the amount of attacks the ghoul gate can do

[oblique hatch]

Maybe I’ll give it a shot with what I have first, I do have stews lol

[ancient talon]

That was jarring the first time it happened lol

[ancient talon]

Tatepons (axes) - megapons (doots) - yumipons (bows) and a stew

And the mission was not bad at all

[oblique hatch]

What was the hardest mission for you?

[zenith bay]

Evil gate without earthquake for me. And the one pushing Gong back. Then the final boss

[tiny tundra]

Uhhh. I guess break the cart? The timing to break it before they hit they heat haze was pretty tight, had to do that one like 2 times. Other than that, I just kinda cruised through the game and lost 1 unit the entire time and it was to the final boss ||and his scoop and blast attack||

I actually dont even know who i lost. I wonder if it was my tatepon with the scythe

[oblique hatch]

Gong is already ||dead|| so I will just try with what I have when I'm done working out in a couple hours

[tiny tundra]

Man, Spencer went from i have no idea what I'm doing to pata master crazy fast. Love to see it

[oblique hatch]

got really lucky on the cart level, most of my gear is fire stuff so I had to level down lol it broke just past the ending marker

[tiny tundra]

I had to do the same. Lmfao

Had like, 4 fire spears and bows.

[oblique hatch]

feeling good about likely hitting 3/3 again, I was just way more busy / stressed at the beginning of the month but the new gig is starting to go smoother / take less of my energy

[zenith bay]

Damn, my spear guys were rocking plain iron the whole game. Got 5 fire bows and like 1 fire sword

[tiny tundra]

Also patapon isn't hard. The hardest part is just learning boss patterns and when to defend and keeping up your fever.

[oblique hatch]

If I can get through the rest of the game without a bunch of grinding, I will have an overall positive outlook on Patapon. I really enjoy the mini games everyone whined about lol

[tiny tundra]

I got absurdly lucky. Like I also went and farmed the robot and got 2 horns within 2 runs. So my megapons had 2 gaeen horns and the divine horn from the Smith.

[tiny tundra]

The Smith is the only one that stresses me out cause the patterns can be absurd.

[oblique hatch]

maybe I should run doots, I have two gaen horns from fighting that robit

[tiny tundra]

Doots are absurdly strong.

[oblique hatch]

oh I don't think I have a smith!

I have a a mountain, a vine, a soup, and a tree lol

[zenith bay]

I don't think I found the smith either

[tiny tundra]

Yea the Smith is after the soup

Its...a thing to get it.

[oblique hatch]

I might try to beat the game without getting the earthquake juju, too

[zenith bay]

Did you beat the gate?

[oblique hatch]

that's next lol

[zenith bay]

You'll see why you need it then

A lot of things in this game are strangely obscure. Like, if this game didn't have charm, it would be pretty mediocre to me. The charm carries it all the way to pretty great

[oblique hatch]

real talk. Game is great when my head is bobbin and I'm just reacting not thinking

I'm going to try just spamming chaka against the gate, will report back. but I need to finish my work out, I skipped it monday so I will be mad at myself if I don't get this done

[tiny tundra]

So. On the starry night map, you have to let a patapon get capped, and then while you run other maps, the thunder will stop for that map.

||You go there and kill the bird monster there, it releases a star that you let yap, dont pick up the money, he drops an item, then you run the map one more time when its not storming and free him again to unlock a second item||

[oblique hatch]

I got the || the star || ... twice in fact because I just marched past the guy the first time lol

[zenith bay]

I also got the star. Think that's for a juju

[tiny tundra]

The second time you free him he gives you the Smith cap.

[zenith bay]

Oh, maybe it was a cap. The stew cap?

But I definitely did it and didn't get the smith

[tiny tundra]

The first time you free him he gives you the star.

The second is the Smith cap.

[zenith bay]

Oh. Guess I got a star then. Forgot what that did already. Only got one item from the star

Actually did it twice. The first time, he gave me jack all

[tiny tundra]

If you take the money he gives you nothing.

You have to sit there.

First item is the star that leads to earthquake

Second is the Smith

[zenith bay]

Oh. Second time I took the money and he gave the star though

[oblique hatch]

gate down... was easy, ||all you have to do is eat a stew and once you see the gate spam defense in fever for about 8 minutes lmfao||

[zenith bay]

I really should have used stews... I let my Patapons get too hangry

[oblique hatch]

I didn't realize that your back line still attacks when you do the defend, so yeah just getting in fever so that the front guys are doing near perfect guarding and it's a war of attrition

[oblique hatch]

been playing between reps, just have the last boss left || skipping earthquake and storm jujus lol we'll see||

[outer totem]

PATA PATA PATA PON

PATA PATA PATA PON

PATA PATA PATA PON

https://tenor.com/view/patapon-hatapon-patapon-hatapon-pata-pon-gif-10275138932492086763

https://tenor.com/view/lauren-lopez-tcb-tin-can-bros-solve-it-squad-back-in-biz-gif-20853607

[oblique hatch]

Alright beat it, didn’t need anymore grinding, good game / 10

Beat it with only || two jujus ||

Will post my army once the credits stop scrolling lol

Stews are totally worth it

|| is the boat in Patapon 2? ||

[tiny tundra]

LETS GOOOOOOOO

[tiny tundra]

A spear enjoyer. Very nice

[oblique hatch]

yeah I just didn't want to get more materials to run the doots lol

I did have some horns

[tiny tundra]

Spencer casually calling me nuts for farming out the team i did

[oblique hatch]

save file shows 9:49, but I definitely used some save states lol

wait that's just the time of day lmfao

play time is 10:14:35

[ancient talon]

Thats about right. I was at 10 hrs. Not including restarted missions and stuff (og hardware) Its a good game in my book, but certainly not an amazing game. on this playthrough....7.8/10

[oblique hatch]

I think it could be a super amazing game to me if it focused more on the action and less on the materials. Like, just get rid of most materials and make equipment random drops and pons level up instead of needing mats and I'd love it

[tiny tundra]

I was at 11 1/2 with my grinding.

[vale current]

Main complaint is just the grind is not really good and mini games take too long to start

[ancient talon]

Yeah it's good. Not amazing

Just good

[vale current]

Better than Burnout at least

The psp one

[ancient talon]

I haven't played it or any burnout so I'll hold my tongue

[oblique hatch]

I tried burnout legends, and then had more fun doing cruisn USA lol

[polar cave]

I regret voting for patapon over burnout tbh lol

[tiny tundra]

I dont regret you voting for patapon over snoozeout tbh

[oblique hatch]

I felt that way until I got good, burnout would have been lower effort to beat for sure

I mostly voted for pata because people were being too mean to Neo

[polar cave]

Main reason I voted for it was because of its description saying it was similar to advance wars

But it’s really not lol

[tiny tundra]

I said it during voting, if it had been one of the ps2 Burnouts, you could have gotten me on board. But the psp one? Eh.

[tiny tundra]

[sterile bluff]

Wow sick burn

[tiny tundra]

I was catching uh, quite a bit of heat this voting period

[polar cave]

It’s also hard to just pick up and play cus you really need to listen to it and I’m rarely playing games with headphones or out loud

[oblique hatch]

That’s true too, it demands full attention

[tiny tundra]

The patas will not settle for your half attentions.

[oblique hatch]

That’s part of what I mean, burnout I could have cranked out watching tv in the evenings with my wife

but honestly I felt the races were long and rubber bandy af so Patapon is kewl

[tiny tundra]

I get the reason for rubber banding. But it's also a stupid mechanic

[ancient talon]

Yeah Sorta a lose lose - a lot of folks were bound to be unhappy either way but whatever lol

Theres Always next month. AND WHATEVER WONDERFUL THEME MAY BE IN STORE

[tiny tundra]

🦖

[ancient talon]

sh

https://tenor.com/view/shhh-shush-silence-nose-gif-17895433

[outer totem]

PATA PATA PATA PON

https://tenor.com/view/robending-gameplay-gif-16968818145840672851

[oblique hatch]

There is no need to PON PON PATA PON, let’s just PON PON CHAKA CHAKA

[molten depot]

Every time you crap on Patapon I will find one of your videos and like it.

[outer totem]

PON PON PATA PON

[ancient talon]

I think zu needs a little pon pon chaka chaka in his life

[outer totem]

Chaka Pon Chaka Pon

And then you never use it again

Well, at least as far as I got

[tiny tundra]

Charge up? Interesting. Was thinking pon pata pon pata.

[ivory swan]

My next mission is a ||sandworm. I just unlocked the farmer but I'm not sure if there's something special I should be doing here||

||I do not have the retreat song I've heard about||

[vale current]

Pon pon chaka Chaka so based

[tiny tundra]

Main tip for this gay.

If you see it stretch out flat, defend song

[tiny tundra]

||when you get the next hunting stage, desert paradise, that'll give the item that lets you go get the retreat song. Little past the worm||

[ivory swan]

OK, I just need defense, got it

[tiny tundra]

Yea.

[wintry hare]

https://tenor.com/view/sleep-sleeping-zzz-sleep-gif-23126162

[steel canopy]

Hopping to start this tomorrow

Well today

But after I sleep and work

[grand arrow]

Going through menus in this game and all I can think of is monster hunter

[grand arrow]

Crossed the desert, they definitely weren't very forgiving with the timing on that

[outer totem]

PATA PATA PATA TRASH. Let's never play one of these again

[tiny tundra]

@ancient talon you heard him. We need patapon 2 now.

[oblique hatch]

Hmmm “Great Dinosaur Kacchindonga is an optional boss mission in Patapon 2”

[ancient talon]

The more salt the more poweful I get

https://tenor.com/view/warriors-curry-salty-salt-bae-gif-9632449

https://tenor.com/view/salt-salt-intensifies-salty-gif-12158900

Imagine if we had played burnout

Imagine how

burnt

out

we'd be

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-out-loud-laugh-ridiculous-hilarious-lolz-gif-17376550074772904877

[tiny tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-funny-gif-23391692

[blazing basin]

Started this one today, that PATA PATA PATA PON unlocking some core memories

[ancient talon]

Well you see kal

First you pata

Theb you pata twice more

Then you pon

[vale current]

Epic drops

[tiny tundra]

[round rune]

Finally getting back to this after Expedition 33 absorbed my last week, got the catapult and did the fort mission, that was a bit of a tough one, but got through it after a couple attempts

Gotta get the wind blessing, it sounds like, and probably grind some money

[ivory swan]

So are we gonna get a Patapon emoji after all this

[round rune]

I hope so

For now, I like this gif

[steel canopy]

i love 33

[steel canopy]

anyone eles have the game not let them pick a name

[vale current]

The grind continues

Until all are green

Or I get bored and can finally beat demon gate

[ivory swan]

And now I'm getting clobbered by the ponpata song monster. Maybe I need another blue archer or something. Or maybe to replace some of my basic yaris with Gekolos (my yaris are currently 3 basic, 3 Gekolos)

All right, played footsie for a Tytanium and got myself a new archer

Hmm. I've got an extra steel axe for a fourth Tatepon

4 axes, 6 spears, 6 bows, with half the spears being yellow and half the bows being blue. If that doesn't help then I probably just kinda suck

... more archers not great in this mission

[vale current]

Legendary bow drop. Let’s go!

[zenith bay]

No way you can lose now. It's right there in the name

[oblique hatch]

You could probably beat the gate with your team now if you just ||defend the whole time and keep fever ||

[solid wharf]

Decided to start this today instead of thsp3 and man it’s hard 😂

Is there a tips guide or something to help

This game was made with @steel canopy in mind 😂

[steel canopy]

I started it and having fun tbh. I'm like only level 5. It's hardish.🤣. I'm gernally op at rythum games tho so 🤷

[vale current]

That’s what I did lol

I did do a lot of grinding since though

Just beat the plant boss

[oblique hatch]

It went fairly quickly for me after the gate, you’re on the way

[vale current]

On to the final showdown

Final team, sticking with the tatepons

[oblique hatch]

The final showdown*

[oblique hatch]

|| * not actually final ||

[vale current]

I've been bamboolzed. That was short

[vale current]

Rest in peace one tatepon

||grabbed by the ugly bitch never to return||

May they carry on stories of your bravery

Eternal bliss awaits you at Earthend

[thorny ermine]

What's the best hunt for kaching?

Seems like it's the first one, but even so, not amazing

[vale current]

It’s the first one

Until you get “search for lucky star”

[oblique hatch]

if the one where you see the star isn't raining it's good too, yeah what jack said.

[thorny ermine]

this $1200 dekapon better be worth it...

Also, are any of the unlockable units better at hunting than the initial two starting ones? (Yaripon and Yumipon)

like, should I bring my horse guys into the hunt?

[vale current]

No. There’s a tool tip that states the birds can smell horses so don’t bring them on hunts

And deku/tate are too slow for hunts

[thorny ermine]

ok sweet, thanks! I had seen the tip about the tatepon being bad at hunting, but not the horse one

[tiny tundra]

It's only Yumi, Yuri, and Megas that are good to bring on hunts.

Megas even though they run up, because of how their doots work, they can hunt fine as well.

[ivory swan]

I did have to take tatepons on one hunt but I think the ||swamp|| is a bit different

||bloody crabs||

[ivory swan]

Dokaknel down, new song get

I've also got a divine stew I can take on my assault mission

Which is good because this fortress is a bitch

Fff I used up the stew on the last mission

Time to make more

[solid wharf]

how do you know if you progressing in the game? i have gotten the defense song and defeated the red dragon. Played about 2 hours, getting into a groove but i have no clue about the game mechanics or whether i am progressing

[ivory swan]

I love the way the little eyeball people sing along. It's great

Pata pata pata poo~n

[solid wharf]

Is there a trick to consistently activate the rain song during fever. It took me multiple attempts in the tutorial but can’t do it properly in the dessert mission

[ivory swan]

So, instead of your first note being pata, it's going to be don

And then your next two will be in double time (dondon dondon)

I'd take a moment and just press the buttons by themselves outside of a mission and sort of work that rhythm into your thumb. Don dondon dondon

[solid wharf]

Ok let me try that

[ivory swan]

Basically right where you'd hit pata or pon or chaka to start a normal command, you start with don instead

It definitely fucks with usual formula in being... I think 3/4? and using double time for two of its beats

[round rune]

Ngl, that still gives me trouble. I've resorting to just save stating before I have to use a miracle and taking a dozen attempts before I can manage it

Can easily keep fever going for 80% of most missions, but that double dondon dondon kicks my ass

[ivory swan]

I can reliably pop the don dondon dondon but I am miffed that your fever ends after performing a miracle

[round rune]

I have failed my sons 😔

[ivory swan]

Mmm. I'm up to Legendary Night Sky ||the mission where Gong breaks the fourth wall|| and this one's tough. I can get past the first part, but the battle puts up a fight. Considering whether I should use stew or whether this is a warning sign that it's time to upgrade pons

I'm currently using five tatepon (four white and one Mofeel), six yaripon (half white and half Gekolos), and six yumipon (half white and half Tikulee)

It wouldn't be a huge difficulty to get another tatepon I guess. I hadn't bothered because I don't have an extra steel axe

I could also try switching to dekapon. I'd need to farm a bit of extra kaching tho ||I'm doing reds to offset the poor speed of dekapons, so I'd need like 1000 more kaching since I already have one||

But I don't have any upgraded clubs, so I wouldn't be getting a damage boost really. It'd be more for the KO I think

Mm. Another tatepon would probably be the best place to start, even if they'd be using the basic bitch weapon

[oblique hatch]

Yeah you really want full teams

[ivory swan]

Maybe I'll consider dekapons once I see upgraded clubs, but I don't think they'd be a great alternative to fielding six tatepons with mostly upgraded weapons right now

though now I'm getting good hats that make me wonder if maybe I should keep some basic pons around

[vale current]

Tailwind miracle

[ivory swan]

Oh, not a bad idea. That'd make it a lot easier for ||my archers to clear out Gong's support||

||and to suppress his archers, which I hadn't been considering||

[vale current]

Yeah I was stuck on that mission because I kept trying to brute force

Even with tatepon defense

[ivory swan]

I want to take a weedwhacker to Pop Bean

just give me the fucking vegetable

why do you have to make handing me the vegetable so goddamn hard

[tiny tundra]

Ok. So.

[ivory swan]

and now I need to play with Ubo Bon for more banal branches

[tiny tundra]

I struggled with that game for a bit until I realized I was WAY overthinking it.

The first part is just hitting o while she sings. She'll fire vegetables IN A NOTE PATTERN and that's how you have to hit the catch notes as they come down.

Like if you hear

Doo doo

Its 2 beats to catch

If its like doodoo doo

Double note into another note.

Once I realized what they meant ive caught like, triple lettuces

The moment theyre on screen you hit the button based on the firing note pattern and your farmer jumps up to catch them

[ivory swan]

Yeah, but even timing the initial catch right in the first place is a bitch

like it's easy to fail to catch even a single veggie

but I'll try your "as soon as you notice them on the screen" thing

[tiny tundra]

Thats what im saying Gay, once theyre on screen you follow the firing pattern. I went from barely catching one to catching every single one.

[ivory swan]

A'right

[vale current]

I beat the game without using stews

Wasn’t worth the pain of the mini games

[oblique hatch]

Plant and chef mini game were easy as pie for me after playing rhythm tengoku lol

[ivory swan]

Chef minigame is trivial, plant minigame is kinda my worst

the ore game gets a lot easier if you close your eyes. the visual threw me off

It's better to just not look at it at all

[split crystal]

Yeah, I don’t get the visual at all there. I also found it easier with eyes closed

[blazing basin]

Damn, easily the best loot run I've had in this game yet (Mission 12)

[steel canopy]

So I truly am enjoying this game but the repeative Ness of the game play makes it hard to grind it for more then like say 2 hrs at a time

[solid wharf]

i cant for the life of me consistently get the rain miracle to trigger, so i am binning the game as its proving to frustrating. It was fun for what i played (till mission 7)

[tiny tundra]

Pata pata pata pon
Don dondon dondon

Where you would hit pata pata pata

You hit don with a note in-between the patas

[vale current]

It is a practice thing. I struggled a bit with it as well

Rest of the game made up for any frustration of crossing the desert

And thankfully only comes into play one other time if your dps sucks

[ivory swan]

Hmm. May need to work on my anti-kibapon tactics

I wonder if dekapons are more resistant to being thrown around

[vale current]

Chaka Chaka pata pon with tatepons stops charges

Fever or not

[ivory swan]

I'm having a rough time actually hitting this guy tho. Maybe I need to be using the Tailwind miracle again

[ivory swan]

Wouldn't mind being able to hit his backup either. Maybe I should try some kibapons. This guy makes them seem pretty solid at pushing back enemies

[steel canopy]

so ya i dont think i understand the rie level

[blazing basin]

Took some time to grind out some better Rarepons ||after rescuing Meden||
Had a few Gekolos, but went out and got 2 Mogyoon Yumipons and 2 Mogyoon Tatepons. Tempted to grind out for some more Mogyoon Yumipons, and then continue onward.

[ivory swan]

Maybe I don't have enough rarepons myself.

I have a full stack each of tatepons, yaripons, and yumipons, with a third of the tatepons being mofeels, half the yaris being gekolos, and half the yumis being tikulee. The rest are basic

[tiny tundra]

The rarepons help but are also unneeded

[ivory swan]

Hmm. Yeah I just need to work on my anti-kibapon game then. Or use tailwind so that my yumis can shoot past him

He moves too fast for my yumis to hit him 😦

[steel canopy]

Yup i clearly missed something in this game the fire lands just eat my patapons alive so fast ever time

[ancient talon]

Yup. You have to get the rain miracle

I believe you get it from the first hunting mission (after getting the CHAKA drum) theres that sign post that has Chaka Pon Chaka Pon or something like that (triangle, circle, triangle, circle) play that on the beats in front of the sign post and it will give you something?

[steel canopy]

Love tht the game told me to go back to tht hunting mission 🫠

[tiny tundra]

Because text is weird and i can't tell if this is sarcasm.

The game actually does tell you to go find that totem pole.

The princess tells you that when you unlock the crossing the desert quest

[steel canopy]

O ya the girl tht i can't even tell thr im locked on or when she wants to talk cause I find the in-between mission screen to be so weirdly made.

[tiny tundra]

Its a forced conversation

[steel canopy]

Personal thing but I kinda wish game would instead reward me for beating a level intead of making me backtrack to it. Feels unnecessary leanthining of game but it do be what it do be

[tiny tundra]

I don't follow

Its not a matter of finishing the level, it just requires a specific thing before you can trigger the totem. Its also the only level you gotta do twice.

Every other level only needs to be done once.

[steel canopy]

Like give me thing ill need to progress in the level prior (boss fight). Intead of a given me wall of text to tell me to go back to somewhere iv already been. And got what to hot 4 bottons in the right timeing🤣

[tiny tundra]

What do you think this is? A modern game that holds your hand? JC pls.

[steel canopy]

Lol wall of text is not hand holding now?

Go here🤣

Listen I mostly like the game tho alittle repetitive and ear grading after a bit

I mostly find it to be ok

But this kinda shit drives me up a wall🤣

[tiny tundra]

Wall of text? Brother pls. Elden Ring has more text.

[steel canopy]

Tht is also did not read. And found my way just fine cause environmental clues. Howeber I'm also not the biggest wlden ring guy🤣. As much as I like dark souls elden ring pisses me off

[tiny tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/loki-i-dont-believe-you-i-dont-believe-it-i-cant-even-gif-22294169

[steel canopy]

Ya should be happy the game is likly to get like a 6.3-6.7 outta 10 for me which is high for me🤣

[tiny tundra]

Rate it how you want, its not going to effect me either way

[steel canopy]

Tbh I'm not the type to not tell what i find to be wrong with something I actually think the reason for some trash games to keep being produced is tht most people are not critical enough and allow for companies to just keep putting bad to mid stuff out without anyone holding them accountable.

This is not for this game. Just a thought in gernal. And y I hate fromsoft fans as a fromsoft fan too many of them wont critique a thing from soft puts out and are just willing to clap like seal at all from does🤣

Ok rant over

[tiny tundra]

Yall heard it here first. JC said Elden Ring is

GARRRRRBOOOO TIER

https://tenor.com/view/dumping-trash-daniel-labelle-frustrated-garbage-trash-gif-27186872

[steel canopy]

more like mid tear lol

but also ok with this

[ivory swan]

Incidentally, is there a way that we can get better weapons aside from story missions against the Zigotons

[steel canopy]

@tiny tundra also ps hope none is ever taking perosnlly! Cause I find ya to be quite cool lol I no i come off strong lol so just making sure

[ivory swan]

I'm at ||that one mission where you have to fight the horseback demon guy||

||saved the prisoner from Gong a couple missions or so ago?||

If the game's only 10 hours long either I'm very slow or approaching the end

[tiny tundra]

Nah, people's opinions on games are their own. Be weird if i took it personally. Not like you're coming directly at me.

[tiny tundra]

Fight the boss monsters. Can save scum em. Save before the fight, see what drops, nothing good reload and refight.

[ivory swan]

I see. Hmm.

...honestly my weapons probably are not that bad. All my bows have steel bows at worst and most have fire bows, I think all my axes have steel axes at worst with like three sleep swords in the bunch, most of my axes have ice shields (particularly the two mofeels) and one has that one push-immunity shield, I forget what my yaris have but I think they're mostly good

also I have like six wind helms, which I mosty gave to my axes. maybe I should be putting them on my bows or spears instead? idk

[tiny tundra]

Sounds fine.

[ivory swan]

Yeah. I'm just... idk maybe I should just do the Tailwind Miracle again

[ancient talon]

I did have a few boss re-do's drop some OK gear but its not particularly reliable. You get a blacksmith like really late in the game that can craft the best weapons, but idk. Generally speaking unless on one of the Zigoten missions you get REALLY BAD drops you can pretty much just get through the game with what the game gives you

I did restart I think...One mission

Cause of garbo drops

[ivory swan]

I didn't realize the drops weren't fixed. oop

[ancient talon]

Did you get the chef? If you're really struggling with a mission try getting a perfect on the chef minigame (not too hard to do) and then using a divine stew

Trivializes any mission thats really getting on your nerves

[ivory swan]

Yeah I have the chef and used a divine stew for a couple missions

[ancient talon]

Yeah idk JC has a common thread here. I mean I assumed to go back and revisit that totem with the symbols even as a kiddo, but its an easy thing to miss. Not super cryptic, but not super obvious either. I see both sides. and you do get a hint

[ivory swan]

I could use it again to brute force this one, but my big issue is I'm just having difficulties actually hitting this one guy. Which is why I'm entertaining the thought of just using Tailwind to shoot past him and hit his support

[ancient talon]

Yeah I do believe I recall the mission your referring to, I believe i did try tailwind to get my arrows and spears past him and then used like the defend song on him specificall

[ivory swan]

Fair, fair. I wish I could have my axes defend and my ranged guys attack at the same time, as opposed to defense slowing them all down

Since to make my archers actually obliterate this guy's support, I have to have my axes throwing themselves at him kamikaze-style

[oblique hatch]

Your archers will fire if you keep defending there’s at least one spot in the game where going full defend will get you through

[ivory swan]

All right

[steel canopy]

lol i have the rian thing but no optiuon to use it

im so confused

nvm i figured it out

[ancient talon]

Yeah equip
Fever
Don dondon donedon

[round rune]

Finally making some more progress after my Expedition 33 vacation. Unlocked the chef mini game and got the wind blessing, got through the windmill level and the stone golem dude, unlocked Dekapons

I wonder at what point I should stop and grind for gold, or if I can keep pushing through until the star level y'all mentioned was good for grinding. Like half of my dudes are still basic white pons and the other half are a mix of yellow/orange/a couple blue

Things seem to still be going well tho, except I still super suck at the don dondon dondon. Idk why that gives me so much trouble, I definitely wouldn't be able to get through this on original hardware

[ivory swan]

Hmm. I admittedly still feel like I'm doing something wrong here, even if I'm hanging on. :|a

am I the only person running into any problem with this mission and just, no one else has any memory of it because it wasn't a problem?

I guess I just keep banging away at it idk

[tiny tundra]

Which mission?