RG557

[solid timber]

check zu s review

[hearty hound]

Turnip drivers and many other tuning

[hearty hound]

i did

[solid timber]

it just takes time

and u didn't see the ps2 gow part ?

[hearty hound]

i do, but i dont remember solid 60

[solid timber]

and u still think switch oled is like dc

no wonder

🤣

[hearty hound]

nooo, i didnt

[solid timber]

bro

ppl lie to u

if u don't pay attention u know lol

[hearty hound]

im asking bc checked like 15m ago info about it has DC on after 50% brighness

this why im asked u 😄

[solid timber]

well

u can say stupid flicking is like dc

if it is 60hz lol

[lapis moat]

Zu's video was also before the OTA update and he stated it's even better than his footage now.

[solid timber]

but it is just not true u know lol

[hearty hound]

yeah

[solid timber]

yeah

anbernic worked hard on the ota

[hearty hound]

this why im starting check measure only on bilibili trusted users

[solid timber]

so for the pwm

[hearty hound]

didnt know about u

[solid timber]

i think

lol

i have 70k

only does this mostly

and tv stuff

[hearty hound]

that huge work

[solid timber]

oled is like 90

oled phone 95%

of my work

if u have no seen me

u r having the wrong key word lol

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

i don't really test handheld

as they have little choice

[lapis moat]

Pwm can't be adjusted via OTA right

[solid timber]

on panels lol

[lapis moat]

I am not affected but just curious

[solid timber]

hard to say

Huawei did it

[hearty hound]

most of time i check only monitors

[solid timber]

but no company can be close to Huawei lol

monitors

[lapis moat]

Fair enough

[solid timber]

then I don't measure them just yet

[hearty hound]

yeah

[solid timber]

i will though

[hearty hound]

Nice

[solid timber]

monitor has little pwm issue

on?lcd these days

[hearty hound]

it take allot time to see first normal measure review ...

[solid timber]

everything is so standardized lol

unless miniled

[hearty hound]

like month after product realease

[solid timber]

or oled

[hearty hound]

anoying

[solid timber]

so back to 557

plz adjust the color

before talking about anything

the speed thing is a joke lol

shutter speed thing

ur cam can get u a bar size

when it is super black

with high shutter

then it is pwm like 40% from my device

so switch has black bar from 100% brightness

and the Chinese panel doesn't lol

but switch should have a slightly less blue screen by default

but u can just set ur panel to warm

and it is done lok

lol

ur cam is only capturing the true story at super high shutter

so like at least 1/4000

u can see black bars

[hearty hound]

like there

[solid timber]

yeah

but

this is also stupid info

[hearty hound]

subed 👀

[solid timber]

as u can get close to half transparent bar

lol

if ur flicketing

flickering

is like oled tv

which is 10%

[hearty hound]

why stupid dont understand

[solid timber]

cuz they r mixing stuff

it is only 4320

at low brightness

magic 6 pro

[hearty hound]

yeah right

[solid timber]

is not even close to be good

at high brightness

lol

300ultra is the very best btw

but it is like super pricy lol

for it's spec

[hearty hound]

300 ultra has best screen in terms of pwm?

[solid timber]

yep and some other stuff lil

lol?l

like reflection layer thing

honor 300 ultra

[lapis moat]

Can you set to 50% brightness I'm curious what it is

[hearty hound]

but not quality right?

[solid timber]

switch is as bad as it's gets lol

[hearty hound]

it should be oneplus (color coverage and color accuracy)

[solid timber]

one plus 13 is also a joke lol

like 40%

full brightness lol

[hearty hound]

yeah it has bad pwm

[solid timber]

color wise

i think oppo is great

with boa panel

but pwm wise

oppo is one of the worst

all companies have good ones and bad ones lol

honor is the best when they wanna be lol

vivo z9t or z10t

redmi k series

[hearty hound]

you don't have a ranking chart?

spreadsheet like

[solid timber]

check my 11-11

6-18 viideos

they highest ranking ones

i dont have a sheet just yet

[hearty hound]

oh

[solid timber]

or it will make much sense to u any how lol

those r all above half a mil viewership

so easy to fine

find

this is not really my day job either lol

i help anbernic as a hobby

i do testing a hobby

i play with stupid vintage monitor as a hobby too lol

like i recently found one super intersting adapter

that can do hdmi to vga

at like 1 dollar lol

[hearty hound]

what is 11-11

[solid timber]

it has little loss in color

[hearty hound]

o_o

site?

[solid timber]

nov 11th lol

what site ?

[hearty hound]

oh

date

[solid timber]

yeah

june 18th and nov 11th r like th biggest sales date in China

so u normally have a big one then lol

i also tested every single phone

for ps2 gow

[hearty hound]

u crazy

[solid timber]

and castlevania with aperture shader

sotn

[hearty hound]

i should make with handhelds also

we need those measures 👀

[solid timber]

the measurement rig is like

3k usd

if u wanna drop that money

lol

[hearty hound]

yh i know

[solid timber]

but anyways

lets just say

switch oled is the best for anti-burn and worst for pwm

period lol

if u r ok with switch oled then u r fine with any chinese handheld lol

but all ppl r senstive to different things

super bright never is a good thing

for ur eyes lol

or too blue lol

which is worse

but android color system is quite useable

[hearty hound]

don't compare the bad with the good.

[solid timber]

should be a very easy fix

[hearty hound]

😄

[solid timber]

the bad happens to be the benchmark lol

[hearty hound]

There Retroid handhelds without pwm at all

[solid timber]

it is lcd

no anbernic lcd has those either lol

[hearty hound]

anbernic just greedy mtf

[true hedge]

No that's not true.

[hearty hound]

amoled

[true hedge]

It just depends on the Shutter speed.

[solid timber]

i tested odin 2

it was perfect

lol

maybe some at the lowest

[hearty hound]

odin 2 lcd

[solid timber]

amoled is still oled

[hearty hound]

yeah

[solid timber]

just how samsung calls their oled

[hearty hound]

right

[solid timber]

so what the hell r u talking about ?

[hearty hound]

Pocket 5

Flip 2

its not lcd

[solid timber]

lol

oled flickers at refresh

[hearty hound]

oled panel

[solid timber]

crt flickers at refresh

pdp flickers at refresh

there is NO display in the world that is self emitting and NOT flickering

[true hedge]

All OLED panels have PWM at some point. It depends on how they're tuned. Retroid units are just tuned differently from the 557.

[hearty hound]

Whoa, okay, let me get this straight... I didn't say it's not there at all, it's just not tangible.

[solid timber]

also not true

[true hedge]

So you need a higher shutter speed to pick it up.

[solid timber]

u have to first know what is like dc dimming

and what is pwm dimming lol

[solid timber]

i have 50k ones

so i know what i am talking about

[true hedge]

You're right about that.

DC dimming is different.

[solid timber]

lets say

[hearty hound]

dc dimming is save

[solid timber]

k80 and k80pro

it is like dc dimming from start to finish

[hearty hound]

yes

[solid timber]

so as the oled vita

[solid timber]

if we r talking about lower standards

if ur flicker iis in sync with ur refresh

then it is like dc

but if we r being more serious

then i say anything beyond 10% flicker is bad or as bad as pwm

and u can't know what is 10% without proper measurement rig

what u r saying about the bar movement speed

is just what ur sensor picks up from a shutter difference with screen refresh difference thing

it has little point lol

if u dont have a proper rig, u do need to compare the same brightness

with a super high stutter

cuz it will show u black bars

like this

this is clearly taken with a phone

[hearty hound]

oh before u measure handhelds o_O at 2020

[solid timber]

instead of a cellphone

[solid timber]

i did

gkd350 is shiit

[hearty hound]

why u leave us ? 🥹

[solid timber]

it is lcd

and shit pwm

i am busy bro

i can't measure other brands

while helping anbernic

conflict of interests lol

[hearty hound]

bruh

[solid timber]

well nintendo is fine

since we all hate nintendo for various reasons lolol

[solid timber]

whatever i measure makes little sense

as they can't make their own oled panel

so we r stock with what we have

i dont hate oled for gaming also

ur pwm thing makes little difference for gaming tbh

pwm is only a serious issue if u r talking about

[hearty hound]

they can order specific screen

[solid timber]

phone

text reading

[solid timber]

before talking , u should again check ur fact man

u know how much it cost to make a new oled panel lol ?

[hearty hound]

allot yes

[solid timber]

lcd

for anbernic is already crazy imho

like their 4 inch

is their own

640x 480

super noice

[hearty hound]

but they can afford it i think

[solid timber]

well

[hearty hound]

nah i mean big

16x9 displays

[solid timber]

not with ppl saying they r worse than oled switch in fliickering lol hahahahah lolol

[solid timber]

640 480 is one of the best panel for retro lol

[hearty hound]

😄

[solid timber]

ppl buy 40 inch pdp with that res

u have no idea what u r talking about rite lol？

i own 5 of them

so i know they r great lol

[hearty hound]

I don't agree with that at all

16х9 my way

[solid timber]

its ok

[hearty hound]

21x9

[solid timber]

u r not the expert here lol

in retro screen

[hearty hound]

yeh

[solid timber]

community has them nailed already lol

lol

they just dont know that

lg has the same panel

[hearty hound]

😄

[solid timber]

and they write 800x600

which is funny lol

[true hedge]

I mean I think we're beating a dead horse at this point. Despite my opinion, and how the 557 impacted me personally, this is all very subjective. Screens impact different people differently. Just because it gave me headaches doesn't mean it will give everyone a headache. If you like the unit, and it doesn't impact you, then you will have a very decent handheld on your hands especially with the OTA. If the unit gives you headaches, you will have a different experience.

[solid timber]

it is a screen at 640x480

[solid timber]

i am merely stating facts on how u can find out on what is really hurtiing ur eyes

[true hedge]

This holds true for any handheld.

[solid timber]

and i am giving u siimple methods to find out

which again is not bias towards anybody

u have a cam

u have a phone

anything can do 1/2000

with the worst phone

u can see what i meant

easily

i have LG g5 and sony a90j

if I dont open my curtain

i will say lg g5 is hurtiing me personally too lol

[hearty hound]

I can agree with 4x3, only until the ps2 generation, and then only 16x9.

[solid timber]

it is too bright lol

[solid timber]

see u can get anything 16 by 9

but 640 480 is what ntsc designed for

[true hedge]

No I know Lee. You've brought receipts for sure. I just meant that PWM sensitivity is an individual experience. It won't impact everyone like it impacted me.

[solid timber]

so 640 480 u can play ps2 yes

[lapis moat]

Nobody plays their handhelds thru a camera lens anyway, look at the screen with your eyes if it doesn't bother you put the camera away and enjoy.

[solid timber]

i have no issue with u talking about pwm , i think it is a great topic to talk about

merely i think it is fair to do them the right way

not using some wrong method lol

u like the switch oled and u dont like the 557 now

which is fine

but u should have a proper method on how things r

when u can

i am not asking u to buy a rig to measure

[hearty hound]

can, but personally won't ... i would make widescreen patch

[solid timber]

i am merely stating how u can see what i meant by simply turn to a higher shutter speed

and i have already stated why u r having issue

likelyhood

[hearty hound]

Anything before the ps2, yeah 4x3 is a great ratio.

[solid timber]

as i am the biggest expert on this lol

if u wanna argue we should argue on tech

not argue on how u feel, or how u feel as a base then find out what is really the issue lol

[true hedge]

I don't hate the 557.

It's just the first handheld that gave me headaches.

[solid timber]

so i have issue with ur statement toweards the bar moving thing as i find them to have no base on tech lol

[hearty hound]

i do (bc of screen and soc and price)

also switch oled, for screen

[true hedge]

I'm definitely not the expert. I just know how it impacts me.

[solid timber]

and bar moving has little to do with actually flickering lol

[hearty hound]

the first thing what i will did if get it now, was replace the screen to high tier oled or ips

[solid timber]

see if u r playing ps2 game for real

then u will find a LOT of them r just 4 by 3 lol

so whatever u say like 16by 9

i have like tons of pdp oled 16 by 9

[broken geyser]

558 needs 120hz. Screen

[solid timber]

if we r talking about vintage stuff then whatever good but hard to find is good lol

[hearty hound]

😄 nah

[solid timber]

higher refresh rate always helps lol

[hearty hound]

it will again increase price

[broken geyser]

Noname I'd pay odin portal screen is worth it

[hearty hound]

portal insane

[broken geyser]

Bfi on 120hz panel is goat imo

[solid timber]

did portal fix their low brightness green thing ?

[hearty hound]

😄

[solid timber]

lol

[solid timber]

bfi is one thingi hate lol

[hearty hound]

same

[solid timber]

but it does the job lol

if u care about it so much

u should just buy a crt

and be done with it lol

do u know why bfi works /

cuz the mprt lol

crt has 1ms mprt

[broken geyser]

I hate it on film like on 75 inch TV but on small screen games I love it

[solid timber]

and NOT as flickering lololol

[solid timber]

i can't stand it regardless

[true hedge]

Anyway I've said my piece. @hearty hound if you don't feel comfortable getting the 557 don't buy it. I think continuing the argument in here is pointless. Gonna go back to other things now. Sorry if my Switch OLED comparison made the conversation worse. I was just trying to show what my recording camera picked up.

[solid timber]

it doesn't effect the matter u r talking about though lol

[hearty hound]

everything fine

[solid timber]

if u like motion clear ness

[broken geyser]

My favorite oled panel remains the snowcake panel . Retroid pocket classic has me like whoa

[solid timber]

lolol

[solid timber]

seriously if u tried crt on motion

u wont wanna go back lol

[hearty hound]

nah

[solid timber]

i am ok with some lag when use motion smoothing on modern panel

[solid timber]

stop saying nah unless u own them

[hearty hound]

u can get same on oled with one thing

[solid timber]

everything with u is nah

and u dont even know what the hell u r talking about

[hearty hound]

i do

[solid timber]

u seriously Do NOT

crt can do 1ms mprt at 60hz game

no other thing comes close

[hearty hound]

yeah i know that

[broken geyser]

I just got k56 in so back to subpar ips lol

[solid timber]

so what the hell r u talking about lol ?

ok if u know

plz tell me how much mprt with a oled 120hz panel

with bfi on and off lol

this is a simple question

[hearty hound]

If you remove the 60ghz factor, you get the same experience on the oled

[solid timber]

then u can easily answer my question

if u can't , plz stop saying stuff u have ZERO idea

[hearty hound]

i can say how much at 360hz 😄

it >1ms

[solid timber]

lol

yeah lol

ur math teacher will be very pissed

[hearty hound]

;D

[solid timber]

1ms is oled pixel response time

mprt is NOT the same thing at all

1ms is actually the meaasure results

the real time is more swift in theory

[hearty hound]

yh, im wrong

[solid timber]

u have no idea what u r talking about

[hearty hound]

0.3?

[solid timber]

so plz dont talk

on things u dont understand

it makes u look very bad

[lapis moat]

You have better things to do with your time Lee, they do this to every person in here. Leave em alone

Everything is wrong for them

[solid timber]

i know

[hearty hound]

toxic nothing

[solid timber]

it is quite toxic when u do not know what u r talking about

while pretending to know the fact

[hearty hound]

Maybe I can't explain what I think, because my English is very bad.)

[lapis moat]

If every single person that comes in here has a problem with you, what do you think that means? It's not just me

You are the problem

[solid timber]

english is not even my first language lol

[hearty hound]

too much no sense words from 557 fan-boi

[hearty hound]

yeah iknow

[solid timber]

mprt is measured with the refresh rate

[stable nacelle]

Rule #1 @hearty hound

Treat everyone with respect. Absolutely no harassment, witch hunting, sexism, racism, or malicious trolling will be tolerated. It goes without saying that there should be no political discussion, this is a handheld gaming server.

[hearty hound]

but it's perfect when you compare it to my level.

[solid timber]

since crt is not sample and hold

ur mprt is 1ms

oled is whatever ur refresh rate is

so like 60hz is like 16.7ms

with bfi

it is half

360hz is like less than 3

but that is if ur game is 360hz

or u have to do all those bfi

which should not be able to stand if u cant stand pwm

crt flickers like mofo yes

but crt draws line by line

so it is not as annoying

from a distance

i can't use bfi ,but i am fine with crt and pdp

which produce very rich color even compared to g5

so when i say crt matters they do

when is say 640x 480 is the gold for retro gaming on oled tv , i dont talk about the 16 by 9 thing

u can't have a 2d game that look sharp with any kind of filter

[true hedge]

I just DM'd you.

[solid timber]

only way to play with the best pixel

exp is the dot to dot exp

so like a low res is fine , i am ok with black bar

16 by 9 or not , i dont really care, i just wanna good viewing area with no blur for 2d games, 3d games r fine lol

as there r ways to x3 x 4 them to 1080p

and looking better lol

[hazy solstice]

Man I love horizon chase turbo on Android handhelds

[warm merlin]

Idk man. It's a pretty mid game

[hazy solstice]

Well what do you play

[crude mango]

ps2 is a 4:3 first system.

so is GC

and OG xbox

[hazy solstice]

Hey we were talking here

[crude mango]

it was the next gen after that where 16:9 is the assumed default

[crude mango]

oh sorry I didn't realize how far back the comment I was replying to was

[solid timber]

well that no name guy is just pissing me the fuck off lol

on things he has little understanding

[hazy solstice]

You're all good I'm just giving you a hard time

[solid timber]

keep nah nah nah lol

hahahah lol

[crude mango]

I'm excited to see anbernic's 4.7" screen, if it's an actually modern LCD instead of an old phone screen it should be great even without being oled

great LCDs definitely exist

[solid timber]

4 inch is also their own panel lol

[crude mango]

the 406 screen is already pretty good

my 406v is my current favourite handheld tbh

[solid timber]

my phone cam is shit

but u can see how good they r lol

this is 40inch 640 x 480 pdp lol

[lapis moat]

What is that first game? Gorgeous animations there

[solid timber]

super robot wars OGS

best srw game from ps2 imho

2nd we all know

castlevania lol

[wheat sail]

Nice game, SRW OG, one of my fav saga

[solid timber]

yeah

but i only like the ps2 one

gba og og r like...no voice over

can't play like that lol

[broken geyser]

I wouldn't have guessed that based on what i have seen here.

[solid timber]

u r being too nice bro, i gotta go to bed , it is 5:41 in da

AM

lol

nite @broken geyser

[still ocean]

just set oled brightness to 100% then add a transparent black overlay to your screen, that will reduce the effects of PWM flicker

on LineageOS, this feature is called Extra Dim

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dev.rewhex.screendimmer

[dawn jay]

https://tenor.com/view/just-gif-4350739

[dawn jay]

https://tenor.com/view/dark-magic-dark-magic-101-peppermint-butler-adventure-time-gif-3773251877157237818

[still ocean]

my plan is to embed this within GammaOS directly anyway, so no need for separate app

[crude mango]

is gammaOS coming to the d8300 now?

[still ocean]

If the bootloader can be unlocked, yes, still looking into that on the side. But this will mainly impact the RG556 at the moment with the PWM stuff, I'm just waiting on a replacement unit for the one that I have at the moment which is busted

[signal cedar]

Oh hell yeah man 💪

[lapis moat]

Question tho, does the battery treat the device as 100% brightness since it's just a shader? Or does that dimmer also lower power output as well

[wintry lark]

T820 gammaos

[velvet helm]

It's still a reasonable Chipset for Emulation and Indie Gaming, plus the Power Efficiency of this Chipset is amazing.

[warm merlin]

is this an existing app or just something you made? I have a coworker who has to deal with PWM and would love to see if it could help him

[lapis moat]

Its on the app store, named "Screen Dimmer - OLED Saver", creator is REWHEX

[warm merlin]

thank you!

[prisma seal]

Eden is out, guys!

https://git.eden-emu.dev/eden-emu/eden/releases

[solid timber]

you are so funny bro. love ur review

[solid timber]

you must be the android god

[still ocean]

Generally there won't be a difference in power consumption as it's OLED, it depends in the content

[uncut storm]

So the pwm issue can be mitigated too?

This thing started with an awful first step but seems to get progressively better

[rocky nebula]

The screen permanently has that issue

But all cheap panels have that issue, so its more a talking point

first, drivers. Second, slick body. Third, analogs too small. Fourth pwm too low for a 200+ device(hypocrisy!), next it will probably be speaker phase/angle

[swift lava]

panfrost kbase

will save us

we gotta donate to them or smth

[vocal loom]

https://youtu.be/ywqzutyyohU?si=KSLhnUVIOOymCped

[vocal loom]

Perf, especially for dolphin is superb after ota. So if you wanted 556 but better it's looking like it

[vocal loom]

Not Russ's favorite but can see why some would really want it

He doesn't recommend on a value and compromise basis on the sticks

[radiant meadow]

Good thing they fix the performance issue

Which I expected from anbernic with the price like this

[cunning garden]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=k5a8QKIlG0g messing around with Wii U and firmware update

[tribal meadow]

If anyone but me was wondering, this chip doesn't run Parallel-RDP for N64 well, just tested on a Poco X6 Pro with Pokemon Stadium.

[hearty hound]

for some reason 8300 in the RG557 and the 8300 in the x6 pro are not the same in performance and compatibility

[hearty hound]

goddamn, looks like a salvation for basic oled displays
the man who created this is a genius

[next folio]

Retroarch or mupen 64 ae/fz?

[tribal meadow]

Both. Retroarch averages low 40s, FZ dips to low 50s. 1x res. For the unaware, Parallel-RDP is the highest accuracy video plugin for N64, tough to run - and so is Stadium. GlideN64, naturally, runs just fine.

[rocky nebula]

the only accurate n64 will be found in FPGA boards and on x86 handhelds bruteforcing software mode, unless you put retroarch on an xbox360 or ps3.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1348784527887306793/1348784528369389588/IMG_3057.webp?

[tribal meadow]

360 or PS3 RA? Why's that?

[rocky nebula]

for what i've seen, they have more than enough juice to pull off full speed, let's say, mario tennis without any glitches in the Parallel core

series X/S and ps4 work too

[tribal meadow]

Huh. Guess I gotta try that on my PS3 someday, always heard its RA performance was dire. In any case, I used Mupen as that's more up to date.

[rocky nebula]

mupen is probably better

[solid timber]

so ps3 ra for n64 is good?

or i am miss reading lol

[rocky nebula]

just tried. still horrible. best to stick to xbox 360 emulation. Mupen64-360 is pretty good

[hazy goblet]

I saw that Adin Walls is probably preparing for RG557 review as he already measured PWM for Retroid Classic review xD

[solid timber]

noice info thx

[broken geyser]

Mine finally shipped 🚢

[strong totem]

I have mine order hopefully I get it this week.

[velvet helm]

Isn't that for IOS only?

[strong totem]

there android apk for it

[velvet helm]

My main criticisms of this review was the Switch Emulation testing and the lack of Wii and PS3 testing. Plus he said that Handheld won't be a good fit for Vita Emulation but this thing completely tears through PS Vita Emulation just like the T860 devices.

[strong totem]

this unit can play a lot of switch games just fine and ps3 hard to say I dont have my unit yet. ps vita I got to wait and report back to you. how I know about switch games saw youtube post it and it good so far on it.

[velvet helm]

Interesting, I'll try Eden and Nyushu.

[velvet helm]

The thing is as of right now Switch Emulation is very disjointed. You can't run everything through one emulator and expect everything to play well. You'll need at least 5 or 6 different Nintendo Switch Emulator's to get the best experience.

[strong totem]

I didn't know that

[ruby skiff]

t820 you mean 😛 not t860 xD

[velvet helm]

I don't think Russ did a good job testing Nintendo Switch games.

[lapis moat]

5 or 6 is probably overkill, once you pass 3 the difference are all cosmetic

but ys we've seen more in depth switch test vids that get good results

[velvet helm]

You know what I mean! 😫

[strong totem]

@velvet helm thanks for the information very helpful information.

[velvet helm]

I'm just saying Switch Emulation is pretty disjointed.

[lapis moat]

Extremely

[velvet helm]

Me I'll probably run with Citron, Nyushu, Eden, and probably Ryubing (I think it's called 🤷🏿‍♂️).

I can't remember the name of the newer Ryujinx fork.

[lapis moat]

citron over sudachi is a wild choice but you do you

[rocky nebula]

"bro use eden"
"make some videos with eden bro"
"did you see that eden is out @you"
"hey will you test GAME X in eden???"

-no-

[vocal loom]

Thank God I own a switch lmao

[meager hatch]

Exactly seems like a hassle to go from emulator to emulator trying to figure which one works best , just get a Switch 🤣

[vocal loom]

Jokes aside really a modded switch would be well worth the investment over the amount of time people spend doing all this

[ruby skiff]

modded switch lite was one of my favorite pickups last year 😄 i still like messing with emulation but it is such a mess on android 😂

[prisma seal]

Hellno! Android, Linux and Win

[rocky nebula]

i put switch and wii-u games on my onexplayer. that's primarily what i bought it for. x86 compatibility is much much higher than arm compatibility

Kirby Star Allies, for instance, a gen 1 switch title; black-screens and dies all the time on arm, but runs fine even on an old-ass i5-4300m

[velvet helm]

Honestly I forgot about Sudachi. add that to the list too. 😅

[hearty hound]

Eden, Sudachi, egg ns ( ) all what u can need

[velvet helm]

I'm thinking of refurbishing a broken Nintendo Switch.

[balmy oak]

Some additional coupons for the current aliexpress sale : #1276205605203349596 message

[night shoal]

Got my 557 but google play is not certified how do we fix that?

[wintry lark]

Could try the aurora store

[night shoal]

Was hoping certified so Netflix works which would in tern let me play Netflix android games

Unless there is another workaround

[rocky nebula]

no google play???
NOW YOU HAVE MY ATTENTION

sideload all the things!

[hazy solstice]

Weird

Mine has working Google Play lol

[wanton flower]

Same

[hazy solstice]

The reviewer benefit

[night shoal]

It does

However It’s not recognized by Google play as certified device

Not sure why that would be

[wanton flower]

Probably a widevine thing?

Pretty common for these handhelds to not support

[night shoal]

Maybe. Didn’t have this issue on 556 though

[desert lotus]

Chip is likely not certified yet. Having same issue with RP Classic. None of the netflix games will work on it

[long chasm]

It wasn’t on 556 either until later

[strong totem]

@night shoal what happens when you click on fix play protect certification can you show us image of it. Try this see if this helps at all https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/7165974?hl=en#zippy=%2Cdevice-isnt-certified

[thick sail]

I just heard Trump dropped the tariffs from 145% way down to 30%. Some say this is the greatest trade promoting negotiation they've ever seen!

RIP to everyone who already bought, I'm fixing to snag a 115% discount 557 soon

[violet dragon]

No changes to the de minimus. Individuals will still be paying the like 50%/$30 per package.

But just wait around for a few weeks. It's all changing from day to day

[lapis moat]

Just buy from a US warehouse if you're that interested, it's unaffected.

[hearty hound]

@still ocean why vulcan driver that old? and it possible to update it? (i dont know about unisoc/mtk)

[signal cedar]

https://retrohandhelds.gg/anbernic-rg557-follow-up-impressions-a-more-rounded-experience/

Another look at the 557

[crude mango]

Hoping the next pluvia update fixes my issues with it

My rp5 would see so much more use if I could play steam indies with official steam cloud saves

Until then it being 16:9 makes it pretty much a psp emulator

[ruby skiff]

is psp all you're using your rp5 for?

[soft harness]

https://youtu.be/DJ1C2XU_BC0?feature=shared

[lapis moat]

That was posted here many times like a week ago

[vocal loom]

Anyone see this yet?

https://youtu.be/DJ1C2XU_BC0

[wintry lark]

Uhh

[thorn garden]

Either bug or GPU bit shit

[swift lava]

Poor soul

Discovering just now that mali is cooked in incomprehensible ways

[hearty hound]

Nah, its not mali issue
that totally unisosoc lazy ass moment mf

[swift lava]

Nope

It's a Mali issue

Amazing how youre running around hating but don't know this basic fact

[hearty hound]

explain

[swift lava]

Mali has poor drivers

All stock drivers are poor

And adreno has turnip developed for kgsl

Mali has nothing made for kbase

[hearty hound]

im not talking about custom drivers lol

only original

[swift lava]

Those are the only ones that matter

[swift lava]

None of them give you good vulkan

[hearty hound]

😄

[swift lava]

Never on a Mali or adreno

[hearty hound]

u dont understand what talking about seems like :/

custom will give much more yes, if soc old, that was fact ... but there allot of variations vulcan version on STOCK drivers with STOCK firmware

even T620 has 1.3 lol (guy with k56 sayed)

''latest Mali at all is 1.3.296 (adreno 1.4.305) 8 Elite atm 1.4.295, 8 Gen 3 get 1.3.296'' 1.4.311 is max Adreno custom (Mesa) Maybe it already outdate info, i dont monitor all OTA updates every hour (if want to check urs, easyest way be download Hardware Capability Viewer in play store)
Btw since it 557 topic, it has 1.3.247 (DImencity8300)

So where i wrong? 🤔

[hazy solstice]

Yeah it just needs a lot more work

[strong totem]

I dont understand why people dont want to work on mediatek project soc like rocknix what's wrong with mediatek

[hearty hound]

drivers

[strong totem]

Yes

[rocky nebula]

Both of you are wrong. Stop slapfighting about stuff you made up

Mali-based kernels are bad because they are frankensteined together between soc revisions. None of it is mainlined. None of it compatible with any other driver release. This is why no two Mali soc's perform the same.

Rockchip and all winner is somewhat better only because the open source community has a collective boner for those chipsets

[strong totem]

no way I disgree. rockchip very slow processor mediatek is a lot better not as good as snapdragon yes. Mediatek in rg557 mediatek 8300 very fast processor. mail based is that mediatek processor. I think mediatek should be open source community.

I own a lot of Rockchip devices

[rocky nebula]

Doesn't change that mediatek doesn't have a strong Linux dev community like rockchip, allwinner, and amlogic.

[strong totem]

that is very true. you have good point what you saying I didn't think of it that way thanks for pointing that out to me so I have better understanding on it.

[rocky nebula]

You'll never see a dimensityPi running s mail server or a micro computer, because mediatek doesn't want that. I can load up my odroid n2+ and do a 'sudo apt full-upgrade' and maybe its mali GPU will have an update every few months. You don't get that with closed source phone socs. Its locked from the point of release

[strong totem]

Oh i had no idea I didn't know that thank you for explain this information to me.

if im understanding it correctly mediatek locks there soc right away when it gets release am I understanding it correctly.

[rocky nebula]

Like why does Sky - Children of Light work on the d1200 but not the t820? Same gpu family, right? Right???? (Sad trumpet noise)

[strong totem]

I never used d1200 device before I have RG406V it's t820 device. what device uses d1200

[wanton flower]

For anyone curious about moonlight/artemis post update. First pic auto second pic high mode.

[crude mango]

Ayaneo pocket air was d1200

[atomic lichen]

So after few days ... what's the result on theSoC as a upgrade from t820?

[lapis moat]

It's a massive T820 upgrade

[alpine bronze]

How's the Switch performance on 1x Docked though?

That's it's biggest selling point imo

[lapis moat]

Average-ish

You can see a showcase of it here #1359106082781266044 message

[wary tiger]

That showcase is at 0.75x，so would be quite abit worse at 1x

[ruby skiff]

yeah you'll prob need to look elsewhere if you want something for switch emulation

[lapis moat]

good catch didn't realize that

[rocky nebula]

i had a GPD XP Plus for a little over a year before I sold it for the rg556. crazy shape, but pretty great device. The vita dpad was hard to play fighters on though.

if you want good switch emulation, you're going to need at least a used gpd win 3 or a rog ally.

[long chasm]

What about Mac mini m4

[atomic lichen]

Good good and vs 765 and sd2g2 in real time use from people's tests?

Having hopes for Arc07

[lapis moat]

Again depends what you're playing but for ps2/gc/wii it's somewhere between the 865 and the 8g2.

[strong totem]

Thanks bud.

[strong totem]

I see thanks for the information very cool.

[strong totem]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uXil7G92AM

[rocky nebula]

heh. BOTW runs pretty well in cemu

[vocal loom]

Id personally just get this for Wii, gcn, PS2, and 3ds. Edge cases are Cool but not something I'd look for when I'm personally buying something

[lapis moat]

Going on 12 days with no shipping updates. I've heard USPS never bothers to update status and items just randomly appear, but getting annoyed.

[wintry lark]

Razer edge mentioned ❗️❗️❗️

[stark cape]

I love to edge 🤤

[atomic lichen]

Inam mostly eying the Soc it as potential for Arc07 so my main test would be gc,beetlesaturn,dc ...and maybe ps2

[radiant meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/kinda-sus-bro-cat-gif-14584810346138711389

[atomic lichen]

I am afraid to check edging on urbandicrionary

[lapis moat]

you sweet summer child

[broken geyser]

My unit just came in and I was surprised to see this somewhat questionable app loaded automatically on it. Hadn't really seen anybody talk about this

[lapis moat]

Just about every reviewer talked about it in their first looks

[broken geyser]

ahh i rarely watch reviews before doing my own. mostly meant on forums and here since people began getting them

[strong totem]

Here my rg557 unit I tried to test soul caliber 4 for the PS3 I need to install 4.92 update and extract it I try to do it this weekend

[hearty hound]

🤨

ps3 on mtk, wtf

[strong totem]

I’m really testing it out. I’m trying to exact the update right now take me 1 hour to exact I’ll report later on. My device went to sleep it auto closed it self I have try again tomorrow or this weekend.

[golden rapids]

Ps3 on anbernic!!

[hearty hound]

wild

[velvet helm]

Do you guys know if Mario and Luigi Brothership for the Nintendo Switch plays on the RG557? @broken geyser

[soft harness]

Some screen problems... 🧐

[hearty hound]

👀

[strong totem]

@soft harness that’s not good I would send it back.

Stayed at 60fps most of the time. (sorry poor quality my camera must been dirty.) https://youtu.be/LViKvzzDnts?si=urYPmq2pMyph7an8

[strong totem]

@still ocean Hi Gamma any plans for gamma os for rg557?

[still ocean]

At the moment, we need to figure out how to unlock the bootloader, then we will see

[strong totem]

I think I figure out how to do it

[still ocean]

Hmm ok if you get it done, let me know

[strong totem]

Try this method see if it works let me know To lock bootloader
Connect your device to USB Cable to PC Cable Attachment
Open Terminal or windows command
type: Adb devices
type: Adb reboot bootloader
Fastboot flashing lock
Press the home/back button to confirm you want to relock
type: Fastboot reboot

[still ocean]

🫠

The LK bootloader doesn't recognise any hardware buttons, so that doesn't work

You can try and see yourself

[strong totem]

I have rg557 I'll try it later on.

[lapis moat]

You dont think Gamma himself tried the most basic attempt at an unlocker lol

[strong totem]

True true... trying to help.

[still ocean]

Would be funny if I couldn't do a basic bootloader unlock but can develop a whole CFW

But I still encourage you to try, maybe retail units behave differently 👍

[violet dragon]

Thanks for all your hard work fixing Anbernic's bullshit @still ocean

[velvet helm]

Can you test Mario and Luigi Brothership for me please? 🥺

[velvet helm]

I'll wait for an eternity if I have to @still ocean .

[violet dragon]

This sentence sounds like the title of a love song written about Gamma

[broken geyser]

I'll test it this evening for you if somebody doesn't get to it before me

[broken geyser]

Sorry so far I've not been able to get it to boot I'm getting other switch games working but I'm not having as good of luck on this handheld as I do with my Odin 2 portal or pocket s

[velvet helm]

That makes sense, thanks for testing. So Emulators did you use?

[broken geyser]

Uzuy edge and eden

[rocky nebula]

lotta chatter about Eden lately. something about it having better performance. Compatibility profile is still the same though.

I wish vita3k's android branch would get a single update. it's been almost a year now. last linux/windows release was 2 weeks ago, and those are shit due to the slow arm>x86 interpreter.

[spiral sonnet]

Think there's a fork that brings it inline with Vita3k's PC branch

Vita3k ZX or something

[spiral sonnet]

Also you referring to dynarmic?

[velvet helm]

Any Discount Codes for AliExpress? 😢

[velvet helm]

US ones 😅

[spice elbow]

You posted the right ones. The US ain't the centre of the world

[long chasm]

xD

[rocky nebula]

Ill look into it

[swift lava]

Not a matter of want, they literally fucking cant

[wintry lark]

What

[velvet helm]

Alright Boys and Girls I'm finally locked in LET'S GO!!! Thank you @signal cedar for the coupons! 💪🏿😤
Also thank you too @long chasm !

[lapis moat]

Good luck, ordered mine from that store 2 weeks ago and have no updates.

As I say that...just checked and it now says out for delivery.

I swear sometimes things only happen when you give up hope

[long chasm]

Congratulations!

[swift lava]

discord replies

[swift lava]

those are linux, the qualcomm driver isn't mainlined either

[swift lava]

those are the open ones because the chip releases stuff

[swift lava]

they literally cant

[rocky nebula]

found it. thx
https://github.com/ikhoeyZX/Vita3K-Android/releases/tag/v12_build14

[velvet helm]

Eeeeeeeeeeee... I hope everything works out for you too sir. 😬

[strong totem]

I don't have that game.

[velvet helm]

It's all good! ☺️👍🏿

[lapis moat]

Bout damn time

[vocal loom]

Let us know what you think over time

[wide bison]

Pretty cool

[lapis moat]

Lil extra stick caps feel nice n snug at least

[soft harness]

https://tenor.com/view/burn-elmo-pyro-burn-it-down-ashes-gif-7510700295202730251

[broken geyser]

https://youtu.be/1TGpYBRju6g

[velvet helm]

I ordered the same color!!! 💜

I can't wait to get mine it will be my reward after I finished my classes! 😁

[ruby skiff]

there's already one on uk ebay 😄 way too much as always though

[lapis moat]

On day 3 of putting it thru its paces. I'm a bit surprised the warmth hasn't been noted by any reviews I've seen, particularly on the upper right handle grip

It only happens with PS2/GC level stuff and above and goes away once you put the fan on low, but it's definitely present

[cold void]

Yeah I watched a ton of 557 content I never heard anyone mention it. Stubb's would usually call something out for being warm - he seems the most sensitive to any kind of heat

[hazy solstice]

I remember him being upset with how warm the 40XX H got lol and we all thought it mightve been his unit

[cold void]

I have a feeling he's oversensitive to that LOL. I didn't find the Flip 2 warm at all under any circumstances and he did.

[lapis moat]

The warmth in this is actually very similar to the H now that you mention it. Not a concerning level but enough that you're consciously aware that it's there

[cold void]

I haven't seen a teardown of one yet

Sometimes poorly placed thermal pads or heatsinks can produce heat that nobody else has felt

[hazy solstice]

Yeah but being oversensitive means it'll be way more obvious if it's there lol.
If he hasn't mentioned it on his 557 it may be a "by device" basis

[cold void]

True

[hearty hound]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGOScij_6R8

not full teardown, i think they not exist for now in english

[lapis moat]

He might also have just had the fan on auto this whole time as well, which would mostly make him not experience it. I try to keep fan off as much as I can to conserve battery so it came up sooner for me

[hazy solstice]

That could also be it since it's important to also bring up fan noise as you notice it.

And may be the case for a lot of reviewers (and me)

[cold void]

Makes sense all the heat on the right side. The CPU is sitting on the right handle.

Most devices it's more centered generally but not all

[soft harness]

https://youtu.be/4y68Y0h_exo?feature=shared

[lapis moat]

That'll do it!

[strong totem]

I got ps3 to work on rpcsx emulator

[strong totem]

These are games I was able to run for ps3.

[long chasm]

If you guys are on the fence for this device and want GC/PS2 just consider that they may very well likely release a RG407H soon and hopefully the same sticks as 406H.

[tribal meadow]

Or even an Arc 2. #🧧│anbernic-chat message

[fickle belfry]

On the other hand, PS2 and GC look REALLY NICE on the RG556's OLED screen - and ought to look really nice on the 557's similar screen. So there's trade-offs.

[wanton flower]

It’s a solid showing outside of PWM and small sticks (that are still accurate)

But yeah 407h might be more attractive

[wintry lark]

477h 🤓☝️

[soft harness]

2077H 😏

[crude mango]

that colour slaps

[rancid pond]

Wish it wasn't so slick feeling

[strong totem]

I I’m returning mine rg557

[prisma seal]

What happened?

[rich leaf]

Tbf all of these run better on different platforms

[rocky nebula]

as a retro handheld, the 556 is a better deal. for raw performance yeah the 557 is better

I would not buy a 557 for ps3 though. that's asking to hurt your own feelings. same goes for other arm devices. grab yourself a laptop for the heavier part of 7th gen, then use said laptop to log onto discord.

[long chasm]

Who knows maybe the 407H will have AMOLED

[stark cape]

Given the whole RP Mini debacle, I'm gonna say no

They went through so much fucking trouble to do what they did with the screen that I think it'd probably have been easier to just use a 4" 4:3 OLED screen if it was actually an option afforded to them