Powkiddy RGB50

[frank idol]

how you know my child is a gnome

[lone wedge]

I love gnome

[frank idol]

after being disappointed by the RG477m

you are my only hope PK

[proven root]

I heard they got in trouble with copyright police over their linux handhelds. That's probably how the "vacation" went. Switching to android they can sell devices without copyrighted games.

It's not just PK btw, Helegaly also decided to only do android devices now. I'd imagine the same being the case for anbernic.

[jade hound]

SJGAM might be doing this as well.

[proven root]

Well their whole selling point is "15,000 games" "20,000 games"

On android they can download the emulators and just include android games

We're not really most of the market. Most of the market buys it for the thousands of games it includes

That's gonna change

Only problem is android sucks ass

Apparently they also got spooked by what happened to oncewerenerd

or steal and modify es-de

[storm mountain]

The big question now is: will PowKiddy even survive

I've some troubling stuff btw!

[humble pulsar]

Powkiddy needs to stop making handhelds without wifi IMO

[haughty patrol]

Powkiddy has been done in by Game Consoles for 30bucks that include WiFi and Rumble

[kindred terrace]

So my Powkiddy X35H is gonna be worth $100 soon? Nice!

[kindred terrace]

Don’t tell me it was Chinese Police? I can go in China or Bangkok and there are buildings with millions of fake Gucci bags, Nike shoes etc.

[proven root]

I guess it depends on which company is pressuring them. SNK that used to be japanese is now chinese owned so I guess they're the ones pressuring chinese police.

I just gave more context about this statement from jdewitz #1352609273280073739 message

[orchid shore]

It really isn't. You can ship it with some portmaster open source games and rocknix otherwise already set up. It would already have more games than an Android handheld on retail and be far easier to add more ROMs as well.

Also it's only a matter of time before the copyright police gets to the Android handhelds that include illegal copies of emulators and games.

[wraith fulcrum]

Yeah, it’s weird that Linux is somehow less copyright-friendly

Hell, Anbernic tried to ship a rom downloader on their Android devices

[orchid shore]

It isn't these companies are just lazy to figure it out

Also the law enforcement being stupid and not noticing the stolen stuff shipping with android devices.

[wraith fulcrum]

That being said, Powkiddy returned with 17 devices on their storefront, only one of them Android

[haughty patrol]

Well, because they have no other Android system

[kindred terrace]

Use Happy Chick, the Rom downloader for Android that was Installed on the GPD XD

[compact escarp]

Saudi Arabia

But even then, SNK does have a strong presence in China (I think because King of Fighters is big there), so won't surprise me

[near field]

yeah I don't see how android and including roms or not are connected tbh

[gloomy trench]

It's always connected somehow

[near nova]

I think it's more about expectations because it is become known that linux-based handhelds have thousands of games most Android handhelds including everything Retroid has ever released does not ship with any sort of games.

Moving ROMs onto linux-based systems is a pain in the

[wraith fulcrum]

Well all Anbernic devices have an option for an SD card with games though

[proven root]

Yeah but they still operate SNK Beijing and SNK Hong Kong

China's gaming market has 674 million users in 2024 you bet your ass they'll protect their ip there (701.6 million by end of 2024)

[lone wedge]

The solution:

Super sp

Or anxroid

Linux bad

Linux is genuinely painful to ise

Maybe trimui is just bad linux

[vapid frigate]

User error detected....

[lone wedge]

I should procure 32 bit drivers myself

i should get libs for crossmix myself

[vapid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

[lone wedge]

i've done some

now i need to find out how to get more out of knulli

[vapid frigate]

Become a Dev, Code the Program

[lone wedge]

haha dev

more like file paster

[orchid shore]

Android doesn't exactly run on a single NTFS SD Card either

[lone wedge]

mero28

[gloomy trench]

Stupid question, I've read that this handheld device can run both Android and Linux. Could you explain how that setup works? For example, how would someone boot into Linux?🤔

[proven root]

this doesnt even exist wdym

[compact escarp]

Even if it doesn't exist, I'm speculating either different OS cards or Android is built in, but you can run Linux from an external SD card

[quasi vortex]

They're owned by saudis apparently now

A nonprofit founded by the crown prince actually

[lone wedge]

I wonder if they'll start handing out devices to haji

What on earth is the point of that

[gloomy trench]

Ahh so it's from a external SD, thank you!🙏🙏

[solar plume]

RGB50? More like RGB5000000 years since we’ve had an update

[compact escarp]

At the rate things are going, de minimus will have been restored and the tarrifs will be gone before we get any more news on this

[kindred terrace]

Everything SNK has done was non-profit

[gloomy trench]

Seriously what's going on with the delays? Why haven't they given us any updates?🤔🤔

[kindred terrace]

It is Done When It is Done!

Soon tm

[storm mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/struggle-austin-powers-driving-chaos-gif-1586874032517112331

[kindred terrace]

Ok, I am gonna leave this channel. I will come back January 1st, just to check and confirm that I was right. Take care all of you waiting for….nothing.

Bye

[silent geode]

Ok, powkiddy, now that Zeph is no longer here you can release RGB50

[compact escarp]

Heh

I bet you guys that the tarrifs will be gone and de-minimus will be restored by the time it's announced

[vapid frigate]

That would be it right

[proven root]

I actually sent an article about it to two manufacturers the other day...

They laughed

[quasi vortex]

I don't need to go through this again with you all

They're releasing it as a competitior to the Miyoo P60

[wraith fulcrum]

Top 5 hello, still debugging handhelds

[proven root]

competing on which one is more vapor? 🤣

[quasi vortex]

Well atleast we had real world images of the p60

[wraith fulcrum]

Well the closest thing to that now would be One35, whenever that comes

I wish it were Linux-based but oh well

[haughty patrol]

Different screens, One35 has Pocket Micro panel, RGB50 has Pocket Ace

[wraith fulcrum]

If they gave that for P65, that would be incredible

[little timber]

I completely forgot about this thing

4.7” 477M kinda killed it for me tho

[tough agate]

It's quite a wide handheld though

Not a big fan of that

[wraith fulcrum]

Doubt it. On the other hand, there seems to be some effort to mainline P65 https://github.com/mt6768-mainline/linux

No idea how promising it is though

[jade hound]

Vaporware

[storm mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-coffin-meme-rip-gif-16909625

[tough agate]

Well, I think I lost hope at this point

vaporware right?

we never even got real pictures

[vapid frigate]

"Its not dead yet"

• @acoustic rover

[quasi vortex]

Don't lose hope! Remember they're competing with the miyoo p60

[abstract dagger]

They said that this is production still, they're just moving slower cause it was summer. iirc

[storm mountain]

Well, all I can say that's BS

[compact escarp]

I mean, there's still the issue of the tarrif situation getting worse, and the issues with the Action Pi...

Also, besides the Bacotera fork the Action Pi has, are there any Linux ROMs Powkiddy can easily use?

[proven root]

how's action pi shenanigans affect the rgb50? 🤔

[tough agate]

the what now?

oh, you mean the one with the 960x720 screen?

Well if this thing does actually release

it's going to come down to personal preference

I am personally really not a fan of the action pi grips so I dropped my interest on that

but someone might like that, or the fact that it's 4:3

the rgb50 though

is such a nice all around resolution

good for both wider systems and well less wide ones

although I don't think there are that many wider screen systems in the lower end of retro gaming

gba, psp, wonderswan

that's about it

[exotic tapir]

cheap widescreens are great for android games

[tough agate]

well

I'm not sure how well this would run minecraft for example

[idle atlas]

Sooo this is vaporware now right? Along with the Max4?

[solar plume]

I think PK in general is dormant. Who knows if they will come back

[frank idol]

MAX4 WHEN

[proven root]

Blorkbuy

[silent geode]

WTH, they managed to find even worse name than Powkiddy

xD

[idle atlas]

I messaged them directly through their website and they said they were on a company vacation "team building" - that's when their storefronts all emptied. They are back up and running now of course but no news about literally anything since the V90s.

I also contacted them directly about the Max4 and they said it's still in the internal testing stage... What that means is anyone's guess at this point.

I just don't want PowKiddy to die - they are the Nintendo to Anbernic/Retroid's Microsoft/Sony in my eyes.

[tough agate]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-invincible-mark-meme-ireetable-gif-9511739422236118481

Where's my rgb50 powkiddy

[compact escarp]

If either the MAX4 or RGB50 comes out, I'll eat another hat

[compact escarp]

Silksong actually getting a release date

[compact escarp]

I did initially specify "announced during a Nintendo Direct", but then I got impatient and removed that

[storm mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/burying-dying-dead-grave-gif-17189345

[solar plume]

I’m with you man, I like PK a lot for budget devices. The V10 is a great little machine

[idle atlas]

I feel like most of their devices starting from the RGB30 (my love) are actually pretty good and overlooked. The V10 and RGB10X especially are great budget options.

It's a shame they can't seem to shake the PowKiddy=Trash stigma...

[silent geode]

I really liked borh rk2023 and RGB30 but both had issues with battery:/

Otherwise they were really nice devices

[formal smelt]

The V10 is very very good.

Just looked at my AliExpress order from September of last year. $33.03 for a V10

[compact escarp]

I would've loved to have gotten a RGB20Pro before all the tarrifs came and made things harder for me to get it at a decent price

I thought I could wait for A527 devices...

(Or maybe RK3576)

(Or A733 if we're really pushing it, heh)

[sweet juniper]

This might be the cheapest device with a larger than 4" 3:2 screen, hope it still comes out eventually since magicx has no interest in making a cheaper large 3:2 device.

[quasi vortex]

I'm surprised jdewitz hasn't been on again in a desperate attempt to convince us that this isn't dead releasing around the same time as the Miyoo P60

[little maple]

Unless I'm wrong, he's only really around now to deliver news he's received purely because of how people just seem to respond to/about him.

That and just having a normal life to live

[quasi vortex]

True I suppose

[acoustic rover]

They haven't said anything in quite a while. Just don't have any updates to share and I have other things to do. People keep tagging me but what am I supposed to do if I don't know anything new?

I do other projects within the community but I'm not out here talking about it much

[vapid frigate]

It's so good to hear from you again tho. We miss you ❤️

[proven root]

Copyright police have been doing that already you know

[acoustic rover]

I'm not gonna start this train over but Trimui has some new stuff coming too

They look good.

[keen basalt]

They better not release another A133P device though

[jade hound]

Do you know when this is Trimui 3:2 horizontal is coming out?

[wraith thistle]

like?

[keen basalt]

Let’s not overping the guy

[acoustic rover]

I don't know when or the specs. I've just seen some models confirmed and what to expect in performance. If you like Trimui, you'll prob like them

[frank idol]

what to expect in performance? i need to know now!

[river ether]

If it can run GBA with 10x fast forward. That is engouh for me.

[proven root]

TrimUI Super SP Rahhh!!!

[wraith thistle]

another trimui clone in performance?

[keen basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-mad-fortnite-dance-bring-it-around-gif-4981263376559241340

[vapid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/mondays-be-like-stab-krillin-dragon-ball-gif-8431279

[compact escarp]

Kirllin Owned Count is looking like "Powkiddy Fan Owned Count" at this rate /lh

[vapid frigate]

I love my RGB30, but being able to recognize 1 of like 5 good devices from a company of Crap products

[compact escarp]

I actually wanted an RGB20Pro before the tarrifs hit since it came the closest to what I was looking for, admittedly

[vapid frigate]

Yea, that Screen + rk3566 Reliability vs the a133p headaches

[idle atlas]

I love my RGB30 so much that I'd legit buy another one if it died.

It's just such a good all rounder... If they just made it again with slightly juiced up internals and an OLED I'd buy it in a heartbeat and probably never look at anything else

[vapid frigate]

No OLED 1:1 exsists. Just that LG Wing screen

My RGB30 w/ Reversible Grip/Case is my EDC. I have it at work with me right now for my Lunch Break for Mario on Arcade

If I were to change the Chip out tho, that new SD662 for the Mangmi Air X would be Great. I found a Linux Kernel for it with 6.1

[idle atlas]

It wouldn't have to be a brute - I just want locked in Saturn/N64/Dreamcast with almost no problems.

If they could do that in the RGB30 body, with the screen stolen from the RPC I'd be a happy camper.

Don't ask me how or if it's even possible - I'm just a filthy casual.

[vapid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/community-ken-jeong-ben-chang-cant-see-small-gif-5154350

[vapid frigate]

Wait for Reviews, but I think the Sd662 is fully DC/N64/PsP

Saturn at that point with the right emulator should be very possible

[idle atlas]

It's cool how close the 3566 can get for the systems I mentioned but I just want it buttery. I don't need/want GameCube/PS2 at present.

I'm fighting for my life to not just cave in and buy a RPC 6 to be honest... I just don't know if I want a vertical.

I wanted the RGB10MAX4 to work out so badly though. Then when that went dark the RGB50 felt like my dreams might be somewhat realised but again here we are!

[sacred lotus]

surely the Classic screen is close enough

[vapid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/gameboyluke-luke-ocd-it-mess-with-my-ocd-gif-15553648

[idle atlas]

Problem with that Mangmi thing and pretty much the majority of handhelds that are coming out now is they are all going for that premium aesthetic.

And to be honest it's nasty.

I don't need my handheld to look like it can give me a foot massage while it's charging.

I want a nice chunk of plastic with a good screen that plays all the games from before my brain was harmed by the real world.

[sacred lotus]

to be fair I do enjoy the aesthetic, Retroid does this really well imo

but some companies overdo it and then upcharge us for devices

[idle atlas]

Each to their own, I imagine I am in the minority here but I want it to look a bit like a toy.

All these glossy finishes, glass fronts etc are just a big turn off for me...

Like... If you told me Apple made this I'd believe you

[sacred lotus]

I mean the RP Classic has colourways that look like a toy

and some that look more 'premium'

different strokes for different folks of course, but companies can account for this

[idle atlas]

The RPC all look like toys and I dig it so hard. Like I mentioned earlier I am so torn about wanting one but I just don't know if I want a vertical... Or Android 🤮

[sacred lotus]

I actually think that black and atomic purple look like incredibly sleek devices lol, it's partly why I chose atomic purple besides the nostalgia

but I'm glad that you like how they look!

I've heard people being dissatisfied with the ergonomics of the device before, but I honestly think it's fine as long as your hands aren't too big

Android is fine on this device btw, you're really just downloading APKs on github anyways if you're not relying on RetroArch (maybe the end experience isn't as good as Linux, but I've found it to be really simple to set up)

obviously your choice but I've been very happy with this device as someone who just wants to play games on the handhelds I buy

[idle atlas]

@sacred lotus I'm just a noob and Android scares me... I don't know enough and I'm kinda worried I will have to spend ages setting it up.

Can you get it to launch straight into emulation station or whatever? Like, can you make it almost like a Linux device?

Because I've been going back and forth about buying one for a while now. I was holding out for PowKiddy to make a move but it's been a loooong time

[sacred lotus]

it shouldn't be too difficult to set up - the Classic was my first Android device and it took me a few minutes to get everything going so I could start configuring RetroArch and downloading emulators for my ROMs

you can turn the device into something closer to a Linux handheld by choosing the Retroid Launcher during the setup process (I use AOSP though, I just treat it like a smartphone that's specialised for gaming)

you can check this to get an idea how Android works on this device, Russ left out the Retroid Launcher option though

https://youtu.be/i1oL2BLxXGU?si=Og_Kq5vnNeShjVK6

^video on the default Retroid Launcher

you can obviously download a launcher that you like on it instead, but it seems like you just want it to run like a Linux device straight out of the box

which this should accomplish

[vapid frigate]

At least the Mangmi doesn't Have the All Glass front. And the Build Quality is Phenomenal. It also has Analog Triggers for Dreamcast and what little GameCube you will be able to squeeze out of it

However, I truly understand how you feel ❤️

The RGB30 is my Peak for Linux EDC. RK3566 is the most Fine Tuned for Portmaster, and 1:1 does the best with all the Retro systems except PsP

So I just play PsP on my 16:9 Android because it upscale better there anyway

[mighty coral]

I kinda wish I could squeeze 3566 into RGcubexx body. Because as far as dpad, buttons and shoulders are concerned.. it beats rgb30 into pulp

[mild knot]

The difference between the RGB30 and CubeXX is the dividing line of pocketability for me.

[vapid frigate]

This was my 1 of my main reasons for really wanting the rgb30, ability to shove it into my pocket

[mild knot]

And a good grip on the RGB30 is more comfortable than the stock CubeXX, if you don't need to pocket.

[compact escarp]

That and it's all Android. Where's the good Linux handhelds?!

Heck, even the A133s are going Android these days

(I mean, I don't hate Android, especially since I have a bunch of native ports from the Play Store, as well as the fact that stuff like Winulator and GameHub exists; I just feel like they're overshadowing Linux at the rate things are going)

[mild knot]

I think they're losing out because of poor touch support compared to Android. I prefer Linux as well.

[wraith steppe]

I’m with you on this brother. I do like RP5 look and I think its design is very appropriate for $200 device, but I absolutely want my cheap devices to look a bit cheap. If not for the sole reason that I can be a bit “careless” with them. I just throw my 10X in the bag raw no case no screen protector, but barely take my 405 out of the house cause I’m afraid to mess it up. 🙄

[idle atlas]

I feel like everyone prefers Linux, or at least the vast majority.

But I think Android is just too versatile and will undoubtedly and unfortunately become the norm if it isn't already.

[idle atlas]

This is the exact reason I was so pumped for the Max4 - a strong Linux device with a decent screen, built in WiFi, Bluetooth and HDMI-out all wrapped in a nice simple design.

Sigh

[high sorrel]

I really want to see a 4:3 rgb30

kinda like the old concept rg ace

[dapper steeple]

arm64 linux era has barely just begun it wont fully manifest until steamOS finally delivers a buiild

[sacred lotus]

different strokes for different folks, I genuinely enjoy my handheld being a mini smartphone

and good touch support is huge

[languid basin]

Is the rgb50 dead

Everytime were so close to a larger screen 3:2 handheld it gets iceboxed.

[tough agate]

well atleast the rg476h is coming I guess

but it doesn't quite reach the cheapness of the rgb50

so yeah they are not in the same category

[wraith thistle]

maybe ...

[storm mountain]

What do you think, Sherlock

[late stone]

Since the 476h is 4:3 I wouldn't consider them any where near the same category.

[tough agate]

no, they are very similar

the rg476h is like the rgb50 but taller

when showing 3:2 content it has the same screen size

that being 4.5 inches as the rgb50

[late stone]

That makes sense. My steam deck is also similar. Just longer.

[high sorrel]

heheh... meanwhile I decided to screenshot the infamous rg ace concept image, edited through photopea and made this
"my dream powkiddy handheld"

[tough agate]

surely we'll get an analog on top device with this screen

it makes a lot of sense for a d8300 handheld

[high sorrel]

1280x960...

[idle atlas]

Is this not basically just the Max3 Pro with the stick up top though?

[near field]

and 4:3

personally I'd love just an rgb30 with a better dpad, 477 screen, and an sd865

I'd want it to still be dpad top though

[idle atlas]

It's where it belongs ☝️

I think if it doesn't have a 1:1 screen or something extremely close like the RPC screen then it stops being an RGB30

[near field]

I liked the rgb10max3pro which was basically a 16:9 RGB30

[high sorrel]

I would try to think of the specs later on

also another thing I thought of about my "dream powkiddy" is that it could emulate up to ps2 (for home consoles) and 3ds (for handhelds) at a decent performance

[idle atlas]

I came so close to buying a Max3 Pro so many times but I have resisted for now.

It just looks like a stretched out RGB30 😍 and the chip seems respectable. But the 3 hour charge times and no WiFi/Bluetooth really pissed in the Cheerios though.

The fact the Max4 was supposedly a re-shell of the Max3Pro with stronger internals and all those problems resolved sounded like a dream to me.

Instead I've just stuck waiting it out with my trusty RGB30 and continued to be edged by the vaporware promises of PowKiddy and their "upcoming" next gen Linux devices...

[wicked gulch]

I wish this was real

[compact escarp]

Same; we need better Linux handhelds than the batch we got currently

[orchid shore]

IMO if you want some good Linux handhelds go for the RP5 , RP Flip 2, RP Mini, Odin 2.

You can set them to auto boot to Rocknix on SD.

[wraith thistle]

true

[river ether]

Any updates or new info on this? Can we get a health and welfare check on powkiddy?

[jade hound]

I think they were trying to release this as a linux handheld, then they ran into some "trouble" and now they're trying to may be release this as an android device

[river ether]

Powkiddy android builds. I NEVER been a fan of

[jade hound]

Do they have any devices that they released with android?

I'm not talking about the X55.

[sweet juniper]

x28, the worst performing of all the T618 devices iirc

there is the x18s too

[jade hound]

Hmmm interesting

Just gotta wait till the end of the year to see if PowKiddy is still in business.

V90S launch was in May they haven't announced or said anything since and their website does not sell any SD Cards anymore so that's the hint I guess. They might be just clearing out stock.

There are other manufacturers who're using this screen since that's one of the main reasons that I'm here also this device looks cool. A shame if this doesn't see daylight.

There's rumors of MagicX, XURetro and Trimui planning on using this screen as well.

[little maple]

If you're looking at Android specific handhelds from Powkiddy you're looking at the
X15
X17
A19
A20
X18
X18S
X28

[vapid frigate]

X28 is the best out of that list, and it's still that Gif

[proven root]

I like the X18S

[mighty coral]

your confusion is understandable, you like r36s after all 😛

[proven root]

It's my first device so it's just stockholm syndrome I think 🤣

[idle atlas]

Me and the boys willing an interesting new PowKiddy device into existence 🙏

People can say what they want about them, but they do the weirdest most daring stuff out of all these Chinese brands IMO.

I crave that extra Jank™️

[vapid frigate]

RGB30, RGB20 PRO/SX, X55, RGB10MAX3, & RGB20S. these were their original best devices, some Clones of other devices, X55 might have been their only "Original" and the RGB10MAX3 was a clone of it lol

[idle atlas]

Yeah but PowKiddy are always adding that little bit of janky, cheap secret spice that makes their devices so great/trash/loveable/hateable.

That's what I personally like and want.

They aren't a premium does-everything-device maker and they aren't trying to be. They are just trying and I am here for it 👌

[wraith steppe]

speaking like a true kiddy junk connoisseur 👨‍🍳🤌

[idle atlas]

Put it in my résumé 🤣😎

Even the devices they cloned have that lil some-something. It's not always good, but it's something.

It's more interesting to me than watching someone like Anbernic churn out another soulless samey device with the guaranteed Monkeys Paw oversight/fault built in over and over 🤷‍♂️

[wraith steppe]

I feel like kiddy (almost always on accident, I assume) comes up with minimally reasonable specs in a minimally adequate production quality with pleasing aesthetic (like, half the time; and defo always on accident 😂) at a minimal-ish price… which is all I ever want in a handheld. 30 and my beloved 10X are examples of this. Just basic, trimmed down design without excess.

[tough agate]

I might just leave this sinking ship and get the new xu device

[keen basalt]

🍻

[idle atlas]

Where can I find details about this device?

Maybe I'm dumb (almost certainly) but Google doesn't lead me to it

[keen basalt]

#1392860755849646151 in the pins

[idle atlas]

I'll be real with you, I just wanna know if it's Linux or not

[keen basalt]

Oh it’s Android. Mediatek is never Linux.

Only Allwinner and Rockchip are

[idle atlas]

Damn my noob is showing 🫢

[keen basalt]

They have a cool front end though called aurora launcher which mimicks a Linux-like interface

No native pico 8 or portmaster though

[quasi vortex]

You could probably run Pico-8 through Termux X11 if you have the patience

[near field]

I want the max4 so bad

[compact escarp]

For me, I'm probably just gonna get a Mangmi Air X once Linux ROMs eventually flood that device

Will it be as powerful as what the MAX4 could be? Maybe not

[idle atlas]

Me too man... Me too

[idle atlas]

What can I expect performance-wise with this?

Sorry if it's a dumb question, but unfortunately I am dumb 🙏

[near field]

G85 I think is basically the mediatek equivalent to the t618

so should be fine for n64/dreamcast, struggle with ps2/gc, run Yabasanshiro saturn but not beetle

Good for psp too

[sweet juniper]

The gpu is clocked 17% higher than the t618 's, which might help for some scenarios

[wraith thistle]

better than t618 a bit

so its half gc, half ps2 with heavy hacks (if 50-60fps)

[keen basalt]

all of the above basically

Might also be only %30 of ps2 with heavy emphasis on heavy hacks, don’t expect too much on that front

[idle atlas]

I only want smooth Saturn / Dreamcast / N64 and below, so this is definitely on my radar now

[kindred terrace]

Hey, it is me, Zeph. Just came by to say hi and wish you all luck waiting! Everybody still happy?

[silent geode]

https://tenor.com/view/good-luck-gif-25117465

[cobalt rose]

Well, we are back again

[storm mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-coffin-meme-rip-gif-16909625

[cobalt rose]

😄

[near field]

so does that mean powkiddy is gonna make the max4 with qualcomm?

[keen basalt]

Nah he‘s referencing the sd865 / retroid

[near field]

I figured but a boy can dream

[idle atlas]

Max4 true believers ✊😤

[near field]

no more linux retro handhelds is a great way for me to stop buying retro handhelds

[compact escarp]

I mean, the Mangmi Air X may get a Rocknix ROM, so Linux probably isn't dead. It's just that everyone hit a brick wall after the RK3566/A133

[idle atlas]

Same... I feel like it's inevitably going all Android though. It's just so widely available and versatile.

I have an Android phone and always have had Android, but I still don't want my handheld running on it to be honest. Linux simplicity is unmatched

[orchid shore]

Meh, we still have Linux devices incoming at least on the lower end. And as for the higher end, there's at least high likelihood the Thor will run Rocknix and we have Bazzite for all the more expensive PC handhelds.

Even if they stopped Linux releases altogether the Snapdragon 8 gen 2 will last for a couple more years.

[near field]

Yeah my hope is we can stop fooling around with mobile chips and limited firmware support and just get full fledged pc handhelds at a lower cost/tdp/size going forward

Maybe that will require more PC stuff being arm rather than more handhelds being x86

But I would love something the size of an rp5 that can run a bazzite style steamOS clone and play my steam indies

[cobalt rose]

well @acoustic rover posted about this back in march. has anything changed? is it coming soon?

[storm mountain]

No!!! PowKiddy is in trouble 😵‍💫
End of story 😂

[acoustic rover]

They haven't updated me in a while. I have nothing new to add for now.

[idle atlas]

Is there something going on or are they just consolidating?

I personally really don't want PowKiddy to fold but this prolonged silence doesn't bode well...

[primal wagon]

Perhaps they're just pivoting more to their successful and popular pickleball equipment

[acoustic rover]

I spoke with them earlier. Not dead. I don't know what they are working on specifically but I don't expect to see the rgb50 for a while

Sorry that's not the best news

[idle atlas]

Honestly, knowing they haven't gone out of business is pretty good news - at least to me.

Its not like we have nothing to play

[storm mountain]

Yet

[near field]

Yeah I mean you have to keep in mind the context - some magicX reps have been pretty open about sharing the way the entire handheld market has become over saturated and crashed compared to 2023

The simple fact of the matter is that anything 6th gen and up is better emulated on a PC and most normal people don’t need to upgrade their ps1 handheld every year

Let alone 15 times per year

[quasi bridge]

and we've all sidegraded 20 times per year

[near field]

And that’s without even going into the off topic for this server reasons consumer spending is in the toilet across all industries

Even McDonald’s is struggling because their customers don’t have money for food anymore

[quasi bridge]

yeah, there's not much left in this market

[near field]

in that context I have no idea how anyone expects to make money

selling anything

except AI bubble stocks to investors

that's still going strong and surely will continue forever safely

[quasi bridge]

the dual screen boom will be a thing for a while and i don't expect as many releases as we've been getting anymore

[near field]

yeah I mean if you're a standalone emu on android and tinkering with cutting edge stuff enjoyer the odin 2 portal is kinda endgame for a while, if you're just looking for peak retroarch we now have a the 476h with 120hz for BFI and massive 4:3, if you want something small and pocketable running arm linux we now have 500 different options to pick the exact form factor you want

[quasi bridge]

i just really don't see stuff like the odin 3 being that successful

[near field]

NDS/3DS are like the only two systems still held back by the hardware available rather than software

[quasi bridge]

thor and whatever the anbernic ds will be something actually new at least

[near field]

I think people are gonna be big mad at how much of a downgrade it is from the odin 2 portal for emulation

[quasi bridge]

i think driver support is coming, or so i've heard

[near field]

thor is endgame for 3ds so the only non-endgame system left is NDS

[quasi bridge]

i don't see anbernic missing the mark with nds

[near field]

gimme two trimui brick screens in a DS lite shaped shell and I'm done baby

[quasi bridge]

although screens without integer scaling on standalone emus that don't support shaders might be an issue

[near field]

that + 28xx for micro + 476h for 4:3 + my ipad and laptop is all I'll realistically ever need for retro gaming

[near field]

the current rumours/teases suggest it will integer scale NDS

[quasi bridge]

the other 12 are just backups in case the others die

[near field]

which might mean its a bad res for anything else but we'll see

[near field]

I mean a lot of them are cheap enough that I impulse buy them which is a bad habit I should try to stop lol

[quasi bridge]

yeah i've stopped for the most part

i've rotated a ton of devices and just keep ones i actually like

[near field]

like I have the non-clamshell 34xx and it's amazing how close they copied the OG GBA and how authentic of a gba experience it is

but also like... I'm not actually that much of a gba fiend and I'm fine to play it on a 4:3 handheld.

[quasi bridge]

having both i like the sp better

the false diagonals can get painful

but i just love the form factor too much to get rid of it

[near field]

I love that anbernic figured out how to make silent shoulder buttons for one release and then forgot

the 34xx is so quiet

[quasi bridge]

yep it's king for that

the sp is really quiet except for shoulders, tbh

[cobalt rose]

how about a purely gamehub-centric handheld. just beat everyone to that punch.

[quasi bridge]

what would that be? just something with a snapdragon chip that's as powerful as they can afford? for me the gamehub centric handheld is the og odin 2

[cobalt rose]

8gb ram + decent dimensity chip. it's already been covered that the 1100 can do gta5 reliably if you keep its tempereture down

people embracing 90c thermal shutdown instead of turning 75c temp throttling on in a soft governor are an interesting return to rp3+ gamma days

[mighty coral]

Also cubexx has super nice shoulders

[quasi bridge]

just doesn't seem like a separate category of handhelds or anything, just the typical mid end android stuff we've been having for ages

[near field]

I feel like a 'gamehub android handheld' would result in the most understandable 'just get a steam deck bro' response of all time

[cobalt rose]

rk3588+gamehub. that would be a statement. but yeah

[near field]

why would I use gamehub on a 3588 over armbian + box86

[cobalt rose]

for science

[tough agate]

Prices did increase significantly in mcdonalds evennwith inflation adjusted

[vagrant breach]

Is Powkiddy back!? 🥹

[idle atlas]

No, but more importantly they aren't gone either 🙌

[river ether]

I though this be out by now. Oh well

[vagrant breach]

I'm sad 😭

[quasi vortex]

They're holding out for the miyoo p60

Still

[grim birch]

Learn about this device only to learn it hasn't released yet. Very sad.

[languid basin]

https://tenor.com/view/good-movies-rule-gmr-avengers-end-game-movie-don't-give-me-hope-hawkeye-gif-9699367132154830787

Been waiting on it since the retroid pocket 3 (regular)

[tough agate]

haha remember when the rp3 was one of the best?

[shy prawn]

Yeah, for about 2 months.

[cobalt rose]

there's no point in waiting, m8

deal yourself in, play your cards, get a device that doesn't make you feel miserable

[proven root]

or two or three

The perfect device is the one you can use now

[idle atlas]

Absolute facts here.

I go through phases where I start "shopping around" for a new handheld but then while I'm using and enjoying my faithful RGB30 I think to myself:

Will it really be that much better?

Still rocking the RGB30 as my only handheld over a year later...

The games are what really matters and why we got into this whole thing in the first place.

... Would totally buy a Max4 though

[proven root]

I did the same with my ex...

[tough agate]

the ps vita that can't even do the full snes library?

[proven root]

Atleast it can play some, vaporware can't play shit

[wraith steppe]

ackchyually, it can play titles that don't even exist yet 😤

[cobalt rose]

if that's your story, you're not using the right emulator

[tough agate]

I haven't played snes on mine cause of all the vita stereotypes

[cobalt rose]

there was some custom version of snes9x that delivered good SuperFX chip game emulation at 500mhz overclock. previous versions weren't using the full four cores. it's on my broken vita atm.

try this version:
https://github.com/frangarcj/Snes9xVITA

[cobalt rose]

if powkiddy uses the same membranes, sticks, and shoulders from the x28 for this, it'll be pretty great

they just have to -give the firmware root- and stop being stingey with user control

[idle atlas]

PowKiddy please come back 😭

[quasi bridge]

powdeaddy

[storm mountain]

Yeah it doesn't look good for PowKiddy 😛

[jade hound]

Someone mentioned they'll release this before the year end but it doesn't look like it.

[idle atlas]

I don't really think they are I'm danger of disappearing completely. Their storefronts are all open and they have obviously got some sort of partnership with TrimUI

I would love for them to come back though... The dream for me is they just come back swinging with a classic design aesthetic, beefy Linux device - basically the Max4.

But who knows what's going on

[frank idol]

Powkkddy......where are you

I need a new device

That isn't the cubexx

I mean rgb30

[storm mountain]

Soon dead 💀

They ran out of money!

[storm mountain]

PowKiddy will be the next JXD 💀

[idle atlas]

I don't really understand people like you that revel in the failure of others lol

I had a similar discussion about PowKiddy on Reddit.

If you don't like their stuff then so be it, but other people do and they have made substantial contributions to the scene so why celebrate their downfall?

I don't really care, I just don't understand it

Must have nothing better going on

[sleek wren]

Pretty sure he's just a troll

[compact escarp]

Given Powkiddy these days seems focused on distributing other companies' devices (most recently some of the newer GameMT stuff), one wonders if their in-house handhelds will still make it

[silent geode]

I think their own handhelds were also made by other compankes. For example they used to sell rebranded, older Miyoo stuff like Bittboy, PocketGo etc

[cobalt rose]

After the x28, powkiddy kind of threw in the ratrace towel

i'm glad I was curious enough to get one. It's well made with a pinch of jank

[proven root]

Oh? They now distribute GameMT?

[compact escarp]

Apparently; they posted a video of a GameMT device here: #1429805430191816714 message

[idle atlas]

Wonder what chipset it will have...

[keen basalt]

you're not talking about this though :

right? ;)))

[lapis canyon]

The RGB and V/Q series mostly was made by an external company as far as i know. related to the creators of the old LDK handhelds

the X series was more in-house. so its interesting to see the A55 pop up as a refreshed X55 while the new RGB has disappeared

so maybe there's a problem with the RGB company but PK in general is still going?

[cobalt rose]

detective-tier analysis here

[acoustic rover]

I'm absolutely not sharing details about this device at this time. Yes I have this information and can talk about it when we're allowed to.

[keen basalt]

Jutleys said official release in November, we can wait that long, all good

[quasi vortex]

At least we know this'll come out before the P60

[idle atlas]

Maybe even before the One35

[quasi vortex]

Also plausible

[wraith steppe]

I’d still buy p60 😳

[compact escarp]

At this rate, you're probably right

Something tells me this and the A55 will probably get a simultaneous release

[cobalt rose]

Calten mentioned a few things about this to me months ago saying it was better than the x28.

[frank idol]

this tells me......its real. YUSSSSSSSS

[acoustic rover]

Smart S is real.

[frank idol]

ah crap

cry

[near field]

😭

[storm mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-sad-toy-story-woody-so-long-partner-gif-9797730

[acoustic current]

don't mess with my heart this way lol

[languid summit]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-omg-lol-laugh-gif-12956385894842429484

[slow dock]

Is this fake or is this fake

[storm mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-dr-bones-spock-look-stare-gif-2949609057232605370

[idle atlas]

It's real but it's vapourware...

[idle atlas]

The sacred texts

Unfulfilled prophecy

[idle atlas]

Damn I wanted it so bad

[storm mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-matter-care-peaceful-laid-gif-5637800469882159442

[near field]

https://tenor.com/view/toy-story2buzz-usa-lightyear-gif-3042558134605628279

[languid summit]

https://tenor.com/view/rosencrantz-and-guildenstern-are-dead-tom-stoppard-absurdist-steam-hidden-gif-24223883

[frank idol]

we moved on from the max4

and now we move on from this

[idle atlas]

Are we moving on to this?

Pickleball paddles

I'm a PowKiddy apologist/defender but the writing is on the wall...

[frank idol]

This isn't a troll right?

[quasi bridge]

no, they do that

https://powkiddy.com/collections/pickleball-paddles

[idle atlas]

They are pushing the new TrimUI stuff on their storefronts too, including the new Smart Pro S so I don't really know what to think anymore.

I made a post on Reddit about it the other day and the PowKiddy snobbery/hate is real, which is a shame. Feels like they are almost certainly finished in the emulation handheld market though... At least in terms of design & production

I suspect with the stagnation of Linux devices they have hit a wall in what they can feasibly put out there in an ever increasingly competitive, Android dominated space.

[quasi bridge]

makes sense to hate them, especially after having a day 1 rgb30

[idle atlas]

Conversely my RGB30 has never done me wrong and I have never encountered a single issue with it in over a year of daily ownership and use.

The other companies produce faulty & questionably designed hardware but it never seems to stick to anyone other than PowKiddy

It's unfortunately become meme-level "PowKiddy bad" which is only partly justified based on their earlier products.

They haven't put out a bad device since the RGB30 in my opinion.

[quasi bridge]

rgb20sx is the only powkiddy and i don't hate it, but it's gonna be the next one to go

[proven root]

iirc powkiddy's original product was pickleball paddles

[idle atlas]

Damn

[wraith steppe]

I've also noticed this like a week ago 😂

[lapis canyon]

i thought their original products were famicom multicarts and famiclones. at least the earliest ones i know about

unless this is a different company. but the chinese brand is the same 霸王小子

a ripoff of subor's 小霸王

yeah it was them. they changed the english brand from bully boy to powkiddy and then added the mascot

[proven root]

Ooooh bully boy huh

[lapis canyon]

Btw their page on 1688 has been all pickleball for a while

[compact escarp]

Yeah, seems like they're shifting to a reseller of Trimui and GameMT stuff

(Also, RIP the A55)

[cunning crane]

PK’s been selling Miyoo and TrimUI products for years. The three have got a business relationship, and in some cases use the same contractor to develop the software

[cunning crane]

And I totally agree. I absolutely loved my RGB30 before I sold it to a friend. And really like my V10. Maybe I’ve just gotten lucky with the QC but my experience with their products does not warrant the snark people give whatsoever

[idle atlas]

My RGB30, and my kids RGB10X and V10 have never had any issues at all.

They haven't put out a bad device for over a year, and yet so many people still act like their handhelds aren't even worth consideration, especially in the budget market. Herd mentality pretty much based on second or third hand opinions.

[lapis canyon]

yeah PK has always sold other companies products alongside their own. they used to be a big Anbernic distributor in China until they fell out over PK trying to trademark Max Zhou's nickname

(which is what led to the false rumour that "Anbernic and Powkiddy are the same company" for a while)

[frank idol]

coz its "cheaper quality" than the others

or blatant cloning

and i honestly didnt care coz it workjs

[storm mountain]

But they're in trouble now

[near nova]

Hi 👋

[jade hound]

Hi 👋

[river ether]

Hi

[shy prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/hey-gif-13705732610916322705

[river ether]

RIP

[fringe dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/rip-dr-evil-homies-gif-10430138

[kindred terrace]

Is it already jan 1 ?

[compact escarp]

It'll be in 11 days

At the rate things are going, the RAM and SSD shortages will be over and this thing STILL won't be out

[vagrant breach]

No please when will Powkiddy make a triumphant return with the RGB50!? 😭

[shy prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/pong-video-game-atari-tennis-70s-gif-16894549

[kindred terrace]

I have been out a few months, what did I miss about the ram and ssd shortages. I hear prices went up because ai and data centers, is it affection us, powkiddie, anbernic and retro id

[storm mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/let-it-die-gif-16851571680202593785

[vagrant breach]

Thanks Sam Altman. 😡

[vagrant breach]

Why you post this? Why do you want Powkiddy to die? Why must you post such horrible things on Discord? 😢

[storm mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/cant-handle-the-truth-gif-7916035

[compact escarp]

I think they mean the AI trend

[shy prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/vince-carter-its-over-done-finished-its-finish-gif-17214651

[river ether]

Is still over?

[compact escarp]

Who knows

[lapis canyon]

i don't know why you expect a pickleball company to release a game console

[river ether]

https://tenor.com/view/beat-dead-horse-beat-a-dead-horse-metaphor-gif-17347367

[rustic dune]

Whoa

Switch lite lite

[river ether]

Thought there be something here. Someone talking about a Switch lite?

[devout zodiac]

looks so nice

[proud ore]

Are you a bot ?

[kindred terrace]

So, you were right, @kindred terrace . This channel is dead. It can be deleted.

[formal smelt]

What was the last Powkiddy release?

V90S?

Their only release of 2025? I have a V10 as my dedicated GBA device. It's very solid.

Bummer to see them drop off.

[idle atlas]

I hope they will come back randomly some time this year but even I doubt it

[compact escarp]

Same; the RAMpocalyse may ultimately be the final blow for them, and they seem content with reselling Trimuis and GameMTs

[mossy aspen]

when they release this? personally Truimit Smart Pro S is the best

[acoustic rover]

I'm going to have to disappoint you guys and say this isn't coming any time soon. Powkiddy will not be releasing anything new for a while but I'll update that if it changes.

Actually we can probably keep the post open. I think it's fair to be disappointed.

[idle atlas]

So it's not a No

[acoustic rover]

As far as I know, it's a no for now.

[bronze glen]

Keep it open and get disappointed more?

[idle atlas]

Am I allowed to ask if PowKiddy will ever return to this space?

I'm over the RGB50 to be honest, the Max4 was a bigger loss in my eyes.

But just wondering if they are just stepping away while the RAM Wars are raging to consolidate or are they bowing out completely now?

[acoustic rover]

My understanding is that just right now, devices are paused. It sounds like a temporary thing.

[idle atlas]

Thanks

[mighty coral]

someone is probably still in prison since the last raid on Powkiddy and they are waiting for release or something 😛 😛

[proven root]

Should only be detained for less than a month 🤔

[lapis canyon]

I mean to be fair if I was sent to prison for a month I wouldn't be rushing to get back into the business that landed me there

No one ever went to prison for selling pickleball paddles. Probably

[cunning crane]

Thanks for the update dude, always appreciate your insight into things 👍

[timber widget]

That’s cool that people talk in here

[compact escarp]

And again, seems like they're content with reselling Trimuis and GameMTs over making them in-house

[proven root]

Probably cause if they get caught they just snitch on trimui and gamemt instead of getting detained by themselves 🤣

[compact escarp]

Probably, yeah

[lapis canyon]

well they already stopped selling devices with preloaded games on their store a while ago

so i don't know if they even have anything to get "caught" doing

maybe they just think the market for the kind of budget devices they made isn't worth being in anymore

too saturated with the dirt cheap R36S & its extended family

[acoustic rover]

If I had to point to something to blame it's probably this.

[frank idol]

well good to know PK is still in business

just no new devices

in the interim

[compact escarp]

Yep. That and Anbernic's XX series

[proven root]

Time for the X Team to do their thing then, make the x28s and x55 for 2026

[mighty coral]

I just with they would redo rgb10x with integrated wifi and I would be happy

I am strangely fond of that device, but god I hate using dongles

[idle atlas]

Nothing strange about it, such a slept on entry level device. The controls and overall feel are amazing for such little money.

[mighty coral]

I have r36xx to compare, and while it has wifi and it charges from c-c, thats where the positives end....

someone designing abxy buttons on rgb10x was smart, because they are nice and large and dpad is great

[noble cloak]

Yeah based on the mileage and enjoyment my son gets out of his RGB10X, top value.

Mostly PS1 games, some Pico-8, some DS, some ports.

[storm mountain]

I'll never forget that time PowKiddy tried to make a Windows handheld

[vagrant breach]

One day they might become good enough to make one. Powkiddy still has some growing to do before that happens.

[near field]

Powkiddy works with various OEMs, some of which probably already make them.

[proud ore]

Why is thread still active? Is it just to dump on PK as they've gone missing for a while now

[cunning crane]

See pins

[proud ore]

I already know all of that but thanks , I'm just wondering why this isn't in a dedicated PK thread and the unicorn RGB50 thread which we will never see

[timber widget]

The walls between worlds are thinner here. Things can slip through.

[heavy vale]

What is the latest Powkiddy device? It's not from yesterday, I think we can officially say that this company is dead.

[cunning crane]

See pins.

[storm mountain]

https://giphy.com/gifs/bob-marley-cexyXqMu6nw2s

[wicked gulch]

Strange how powkiddy (who was like #3 in the space) can't survive but other players who few have heard of like gameMT have no issue running and making the rgb50 type device

Or like how mangmi came out of no where

[jade hound]

Seems to be random at this point also something similar happened to Helegaly

[wicked gulch]

Damn

[lapis canyon]

well helegaly got raided. there hasn't been any suggestion that happened to powkiddy. there might've been some issue with the company that was making the RGB series etc for them or they might've just decided to exit/pause the business of their own accord

as far as i know gamemt is basically just a design company & all the hardware/software is bought in from external development companies

the dev companies will sell the same solutions customised to different clients, like the szdiier d007 was pretty much the gamemt e6 in a different form factor

so i guess that lowers risk & overheads for smaller companies like that

btw szdiier/diium supposedly also got raided at the same time as helegaly but they still seem to be active

[primal wagon]

I feel like they're all design companies and the minute you kill a powkiddy and ruin the RGB50 you get the AISLPC RG52-mini spring up instead.

[vagrant breach]

Maybe the RAMpocalyse made them suspend their business operations. 🥺

[wicked gulch]

So your saying mangmi is actually a pseudonym for cruical ram?

Wow Its all adding up

[sterile rune]

That would explain why szdiier’s new 1:1 handheld had the same frontend as gamemt

I thought for a moment gamemt stepped up their game

now that I think about it, gamemt and szdiier have used the same hardware packages the entire time

[sterile rune]

where did you get this info?

[jade hound]

which device was this the szdiier's 1:1 ?

I think you mean the D40 Max right?
Android

[sterile rune]

Yep

[lapis canyon]

aeolus' contact at helegaly said so apparently #1342191309959463027 message
actually they just said diium was "investigated" so maybe it wasn't as serious as what happened to helegaly themselves

[kindred terrace]

the KING is DEAD

LONG LIVE THE NEW KING!

[proven root]

They probably just sell their solutions and not bother to do their own stuff now (helegaly)

Someone told me before that most of these companies are even on the same building or share the same floor of the same building 🤣

[primal wagon]

Whoever the solution provider is just sends all their wacky linux devices to aislpc and the wacky android ones to sinyorksu. Gamefrog gets the cheap stuff and boring designs go to ampwn with a Game Console label

(I'm speculating here)

[proven root]

SJGAM has the monopoly for wacky stuff

and Gaminja

[lapis canyon]

they come up with wacky stuff and then don't release it

i wanna know when i can buy this http://www.ylwtech.com/product/GAMINJA-AN13-Open-Source-Handheld-Game-Console-Box-Portable-Pocket-Player.html

[near field]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-what-the-fuck-the-fuck-is-this-wth-gif-17571836

[proven root]

Can it be used as a shiv?

[lapis canyon]

yes it's multifunctional

[jade hound]

When was this announced?
Looks like alien technology

[lapis canyon]

it just appeared on their website at some point. probably last year

it's probably something they won't actually make unless they get a big wholesale order tbh

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/AN13-Handheld-Game-Machine-New-Game_1601441214948.html minimum 100 pieces. so if 99 other people want to go in on this thing maybe we can make it happen

[jade hound]

I found that listing as well. Count me in. Now to find 98 other people.

[proven root]

at $12 i'll get another r36s clone

[sterile rune]

that’s awfully convenient and would explain the weird connections each company has with each other outside of the giants

i wonder if magicx is headquartered in that hypothetical building

[lapis canyon]

magicx is based in dongguan i think. most of the others are in shenzhen

i have looked into the company registrations for some of them & the only ones i really found that were based in the same building were anbernic and batlexp. which is hardly surprising

but that's only from looking up name-brand companies ofc. all the no-name "game console" companies could be in the same building. i have no idea how i'd even find them

[sterile rune]

how do you know? I’ve been trying to find company registrations or any information about MagicX for a long time now, and I’ve found literally nothing

no patents, no trademarks that could be from them, nothing really. the closest I could get was that the reseller Luna worked at that was apparently close to MagicX was based in Dongguan, but that’s it

[vagrant breach]

That's 4:3 not 3:2!

[kindred terrace]

But it is a unique 4,5 inch!

[lapis canyon]

i found the Chinese design patents for their devices, they're registered to 东莞毅龙实业有限公司

that doesn't 100% mean it's the actual magicx company, it could be their manufacturing partner or something, but it's the only thing i found

[sterile rune]

Huh, that’s quite literally the company name of the “reseller” I was talking about: https://www.aliexpress.com/store/home.html?shopId=1103844757

maybe that is just magicx’s own storefront

[lapis canyon]

oh maybe it is. nothing on that store is available in the uk lol

well sean was talking about starting aliexpress sales after the spring festival so i guess we can see which store they use for that

[vagrant breach]

But that's not a replacement for my 4:5 inch 3:2 experience.

[near field]

its better for GBA because it integer scales it and better for everything else because it's 4:3

[vagrant breach]

But it can't 16:9 like 3:2.

[keen basalt]

Surely there’ll be a life sign after CNY

[river ether]

Did the CEO make bail? /s

[storm mountain]

https://giphy.com/gifs/ZikyVyLF7aEaQ

[compact escarp]

Doubt it. Maybe when the AI bubble finally bursts, they can finally release it

[tough agate]

release the powkiddy files!

[gusty hinge]

What is the context behind this 😭

[river ether]

It is a joke. Why it has /s after it

[sterile rune]

doubt it, they need all of that subsidized ai to develop their handhelds

[slow dock]

Why is this thread still alive. Powkidfy rgb50 ain't happening lol

[idle atlas]

We are the true believers of PowKiddy

[storm mountain]

https://giphy.com/gifs/skeleton-im-dead-VN3dGsdlp9nCPUfe8y

[river ether]

I mean the miyoo flip thread was there forever

[solar blaze]

so the powkiddy store is selling these

[manic herald]

Hmm, seems like an old SoC. I wonder what the battery life is gonna be like.

[idle atlas]

I pointed this out a while back - got told it's apparently something they have been in the business of selling/producing before

I don't even know what Pickleball is but if it funds the resurrection of the Max4 so be it

[wicked cloak]

Powkiddy isn't even a handheld company anymore I'm surprised this is still here

[idle atlas]

Their storefront still has all of their handhelds for sale, as well as hosting new stuff from TrimUI...

I wouldn't go as far as to say they aren't a handheld company anymore. Dormant for sure, but maybe not 100% out yet

Personally I'll stay rooting for them and waiting to see if they make a return. They got me into this scene and I like their style

[lapis canyon]

yeah the earlier ones are even powkiddy branded https://www.powkiddyoutdoors.com/

one thing i will say is a positive sign is that their 1688 store, which previously (from sometime last year) was listing only pickleball products, has once again relisted their handhelds

nothing new but it proves the direction of the company isn't 100% away from this stuff at least

[idle atlas]

They would return to a tough spot... Between all the R36S type stuff and big hits like the TrimUI Brick, the budget space PowKiddy so often operated in has been cannibalised. I mean, even Anbernic has been shoved out!

And now with stuff like the Pocket Air Mini, Air X and One35, what constitutes a budget device in 2026 is a pretty high bar compared to where they left off with stuff running RK3566's.

I really would love for them to come back because I do genuinely enjoy their designs and think their last few devices (RGB10X, V10 & V90S) were very overlooked, unfairly so. But I have to admit it's hard to think where they would fit into today's market...

[wicked cloak]

In my mind MagicX took their place in the budget space. That's just me though.

MagicX is a company that just tries stuff and has unique handhelds. Though they're more consistent.

[keen basalt]

I feel like this comment is a whole year too early

[idle atlas]

MagicX are still largely unproven at this point.

They have made a couple of cool yet flawed devices in the Zero40 and One35 but are a few releases away from being labelled as true contenders, especially given their evident production and logistical problems.

They are certainly not PowKiddy replacements by any stretch.

[idle atlas]

Fact

[wicked cloak]

The Zero28 was pretty good

Also Powkiddy kinda took a break from the market(we'll call it that) close to when MagicX started picking up steam

[vagrant breach]

I need more Linux Handhelds in my life. 😥

[idle atlas]

@storm mountain

Always inadvertently keeping the discussion going with your obsession for PowKiddy

[river ether]

anything new?

[near field]

Vita pro looks like the new rgb10max3pro

[vagrant breach]

That's why I'm buying it. I've suggested this chipset over a year ago. Too bad they didn't put it in the RG-DS. 😔

[near field]

Maybe we’ll get an rg ds pro

With 3576 and better screens

Hopefully still dpad top and dual 4:3 though

We don’t need “Thor at home” for 3ds, we need a better NDS

[storm mountain]

[keen basalt]

[cobalt rose]

Powkiddy badly wants to replace the x28, but just can't keep their shit together long enough for test units to make it to market

the only issue i had with the x28 was the blue-tinted screen, but that's easy to fix with a 5% orange screen color filter

[idle atlas]

Source?

[cobalt rose]

some inside guy named Calten. he used to lurk around here

[idle atlas]

How long ago was this

[cobalt rose]

what do you mean

powkiddy has been trapped in a loop of announcing and canceling for over a year now.

[idle atlas]

They haven't released anything since the V90S what are you talking about

The RGB50 and Max4 were announced shortly after the V90S release and then it's been radio silence since. They haven't been active at all lol

I was asking when you heard about the x28 thing because they have been silent so was wondering if it was some new info at last

I think they will be making Pickleball gear for the foreseeable unfortunately but if what we have heard in here is correct it's just a temporary step away from the handheld market.

I think all these companies are going to be up against it now realistically.

[idle atlas]

[vagrant breach]

🥺

[shy prawn]

[storm mountain]

https://giphy.com/gifs/mood-YqE3jbSQQR6x9g19Kj

[vagrant breach]

We must keep this thread alive until Powkiddy returns!!!

[proud ore]

But should they return

[near field]

yes

[storm mountain]

https://giphy.com/gifs/cbc-schitts-creek-QBurxgHmS9EPCYf8ej

[compact escarp]

Who knows, heh

If they return before the AI bubble bursts, time for me to eat another hat! /lh

[keen basalt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1407307760147628104/1417078979449454612/ysj7Qay.gif

[civic otter]

Still wild they didn't go with the 4" 1024x768 screens.....

[near field]

maybe they could get in on the mister FPGA ecosystem, it doesn't need anywhere near as much ram

[civic otter]

But yes I guess that's what the eventual pro model will be for

[near field]

I'd even accept the 406 screens. Sure it doesn't integer NDS but it would interpolate better than 480p while integer scaling a ton of other stuff

[civic otter]

I'd have been happy with either over the 480p screens lol

[near field]

yeah 720p screens + 3576 + rocknix would be a great pocket handheld for me

[civic otter]

It's just the 4" 768p screens are dirt cheap

[near field]

for when I'm not bringing the portal around

[near field]

is it good though? I would rather have non-integer 720p than ghosting or light bleed problems

[civic otter]

Afaik it's good... But then again I haven't seen many people buying those devices since... Well... We are so saturated by choice lol

[cobalt rose]

close this thread

[keen basalt]

Is it finally over?

[keen basalt]

Let’s wait Jdewitz to announce the time of death before we shut this down

[idle atlas]

PowKiddy please come back to us

[cobalt rose]

it looks like the x28 is -still their best product-

[idle atlas]

RGB30 will never die

1:1 Pioneers

[arctic trench]

that rgb50 looked promising

[cobalt rose]

they cooped with sinyorksu to release the E3 Vigor for whatever that's worth. it's using the allwinner R58 or something like it(8xA7@2ghz).
edit: actually the e3 vigor is running the MT6592. The Mali-450 MP4 in the specs reveal that

[arctic trench]

Allwinner A527 https://retrocatalog.com/retro-handhelds/rgb50

[cobalt rose]

i wasn't talking about the rgb50 specs.

interesting thing is Trimui beat powkiddy to the market

[arctic trench]

e3 vigor It's not really worth it with the release of the d40max with touch screen

[cobalt rose]

I guess. they're both kind of weak

[cobalt rose]

Trimui Smart Pro S is basically the rgb50 with a cooling fan, so by default it wins all races. the a527 and a523 are almost the exact same soc.

[arctic trench]

this could be the most stable and efficient, as is the case with the RK3566 and 3588

For me, the A133P is still top-notch for playing games even on the PSP decently

[cobalt rose]

Powkiddy also sells the Pro-S, so it doesn't make sense to do a competing sku and shoot themselves in the foot.
https://powkiddy.com/products/trimui-smart-pro-s-pre-orders

[arctic trench]

I saw that once on the Powkiddy website, it seemed strange to me

Will they be like MagicX and XU Retro?

something like a sub-brand

[cobalt rose]

possibly. royibeila is doing that

they order parts and assemble onsite, then sell slightly lower than market price

[arctic trench]

Of course, most are OEM

What royibeila is doing makes no sense, just like gamelab It's like a rebrand

just as Helegaly illegaly are camouflaged

[cobalt rose]

the market plateau'd and is dying now. a lot of these scavenger companies are just taking whatever they can get

[arctic trench]

the remaining units to sponsor

It's something like how the TikTok shop works

The strange thing is that even Ayaneo did it with his PAM

[cobalt rose]

if powkiddy cut their losses and made a g99 handheld, they could stay in the market if only to piss on the rgVita

[arctic trench]

Those who have G99s are usually famous

https://retrocatalog.com/retro-handhelds/categories/chip/MediaTek Helio G99

the price of ZPG Unicorn has increased considerably

Could it be that the G99 created a cult of fans?

[cobalt rose]

it's a cheap dimensity spinoff with a decent following of winlator fanboys in the phone-gaming scene

[compact escarp]

G99s are EVERYWHERE in the cheap phone market just because it's one of the more powerful 4G-only chipsets on the market as I speak

The key part is "their own team"

That probably still exists

[arctic trench]

and who would be the leading team there? Who spent the most time on the market? kinhank with his k36?

[compact escarp]

Not sure

[lapis canyon]

Powkiddy has been around longer than any of them. But their strongest experience is in sales/distribution. So it would make sense if they're concentrating on that 100% for the time being and not trying to do their own brand devices

[idle atlas]

PowKiddy ain't dead. I don't know how many times this has to be brought up but they clearly have their fingers in the emulation pie or their stores would be shut down, not getting new stock and certainly not advertising new devices for "brother companies"

I suspect they are just stepping back during a turbulent time in which I think all of these companies are going to suffer. Even Anbernic and Retroid.

Their website is the exact same as Royibeila's and even carries all the same stock including PowKiddy devices lol

I think these smaller companies banding together to share expertise and responsibilities to keep afloat is a good idea to be honest

Not to mention the Pickle Ball racquet's

[arctic trench]

I forgot that Powkiddy was releasing some consoles in the past when GPD was dominant

Ambernic is already making his moves with and BATLEXP

[vagrant breach]

Powkiddy! Powkiddy!! Powkiddy!!!

🤣

[vagrant breach]

Not as long as Anbernic. Anbernic debuted with the PAP K1 right after the Dingoo Days.

[lapis canyon]

yeah i just mean longer than the companies they're working with at the moment