Powkiddy RGB50

[lone wedge]

Consider it as gauging interest

Only a physical version is an announcement that you'll see it in a year

[wicked gulch]

That's smart way to think about it

[lone wedge]

That's the only way to think about it

Announcement of consideration

Super SP ofc is announced and shipping tommorow

[kindred terrace]

Another day , another no announcement. Don’t mention the V-word!

[proven root]

Oh haven't you heard

[lone wedge]

Pathetic

Magicx fans wait agea

Touch one has been in soon since last november

[languid summit]

Super SP is Retroid pocket mini V2 with Retroid dual screnn, end of story

dual OLED screen

good size difference for 3DS and NDS

and 2nd screen removable for more pocketablity

[vapid frigate]

Retroid 4 pro is best, Cheaper & Still get that awesome 1080p screen. Also, I have had mine since March 2024 and don't wanna buy another retroid til the rp6 or 7. Whenever they finally give us the 8 gen 2

Or the new chip

[lone wedge]

Blocked and reported

[wicked cloak]

One thing I wanted when I started this hobby is something that can play psp and DS.

I have that now but this is a clamshell, kind of

I wasn't interested in the mini before this, I'm not gonna get it because it's an almost $300 setup and I technically have what I want but it's tempting

[kindred terrace]

Tell me , tell me, tell me!!!

[near field]

about the bird

https://tenor.com/view/big-bird-sesame-street-yellow-beak-bird-gif-10721979539212615194

[jade hound]

I get a feeling PowKiddy may have cancelled this internally, I really hope I'm wrong

[wicked cloak]

Someone send Trimui some of these chips or even Anbernic

Both of them can use it

[ancient hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/ineedit-needit-spongebob-squarepants-need-it-gif-4883495

[vapid frigate]

I think this a527 will end up as this year's Low End chip lol. Even if it's a bunch of Android devices pumped out

[cobalt rose]

its already in a bunch of tablets and linux/android sbcs

[languid summit]

I got RG556 and it makes the job perfectly, 3x and Oled

i still believe this RGB50 got the potential to be the swiss knife of retro handheld under 100$ (hopefully 89$)

[wicked cloak]

I have an RG505, and it works for now. I got it for less than $100. The screen is literally made for Psp and looks.

The RG556 seems good and I might consider it at some point.

[lone wedge]

Raaaaah super sp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[stiff solar]

what website is this from

[quasi bridge]

https://shauninman.com/utils/screens/

[stiff solar]

thanks!

[cobalt rose]

Ban now has my e6max, so he too might be able to show what this could hypothetically do

[kindred terrace]

Hey guys, any new from PK ?

[vapid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/sorry-who-rohit-shetty-pinkvilla-who-is-it-what's-the-name-gif-11602684487777858024

[wicked cloak]

What even is that? I tried to look it up and got nothing

[brittle nymph]

Please no, this is the one device I'm actually excited for

[silent geode]

It's imaginary handheld that @lone wedge tries to summon to reality

[lone wedge]

My goat

[lone wedge]

Best ds handheld

Dual 1440p oleds

16:9 top 4:3 bottom

Vita dpad Xbox one buttons tmr sticks minimal bezels round 6.3 inches top

Enough power for 6x 3ds

[wicked cloak]

Oh wow

That sounds incredible

[haughty patrol]

and it's pure hopium by huffy

[lone wedge]

Raaah super sp!!!!!

[wicked cloak]

It'd probably be by Retroid or Ayaneo

Not MagicX

[languid summit]

I bet it will be Helegaly DS Zeta coming end of 2025

dual screen and 16:9 + 4:3 oled screens

[languid summit]

not sure for 1440p

[wicked cloak]

Doesn't have to be 1440p or oled, good quality ips screens would be great

[tough agate]

you definitely borroved 6.3 inches from me

[lone wedge]

??? It's not super sp if it isn't 1440p

[lone wedge]

No the four 63 is 1440p

Confirmed screen that exists

[tough agate]

and that's oled??

[haughty patrol]

iirc twothree and three four series are oled panels yeah

[tough agate]

wow

now we just need a native 4:3 oled panel

[haughty patrol]

Retroid Pocket mortgage screen

[tough agate]

if they made 4.2 inch 1280x960 amoled screen we can actually make this so called super sp

mortgage screen on bottom, 6.3 inch 1440p on top

[haughty patrol]

I demand 4.5" 1920x1440

a 4.5" 4:3 panel would still only be as high as RP5 is and kinda too small for the 6.3" top screen tbh

I don't see why you would want a 4.2" panel

ideally a 5.5" 16:9 top panel would be combined with the 4.5" 4:3 bottom panel

shit would integer scale everything

also a plain 1080p 16:9 panel would be way better for PSP than a 1440p

so honestly combining both here would kinda be the move

[lone wedge]

Nope, only super was all OLED. We don't know if four is all OLED and Sean wont say.

[lone wedge]

Consider the overall

We need 1440p

[wicked cloak]

If you want to pay $1000 for a retro handheld go ahead

Above $200 I'd rather go for oem devices or a secondhand phone

Above $150 honestly

[lone wedge]

The super sp has no such issues

Ayaneo scam

It's android not x86

Please magicx get a sd gamer chip🙏

[little maple]

RGB50 when

[wicked cloak]

Still waiting

[wicked gulch]

You know that feeling when you see a guy at a table who gets served his meal before you when he came and sat down AFTER

That's how I feel seeing YouTubers showing they got the rgslide in the mail

[kindred terrace]

Anbernic RG477P for the win

[stiff solar]

477p

[stiff solar]

wait they did get the rg slide in the mail?

[wicked gulch]

Yeah

[stiff solar]

thats cool

[lone wedge]

No it was sent by teleporter

[proven root]

RGB50 when

[lone wedge]

I need that PSP sized brotato

It's the same size as 16:9 on the psp size

But the chin is filled with screen

3x the ppi😋

[lone wedge]

Will this have c to c🤔

[silent geode]

yeah, of course Super SP has no such issues but it also doesnt have any advantages, it doesnt have anything xD

[lone wedge]

Dual 1440p oleds not an advantage now

[silent geode]

whats up with a527 curse? Action Pi is technically released but you can't buy it, e6 max is also super limited (but I'm not interested in it anyway) and we don't know when rgb50 will be released 😦

[silent geode]

oh, I meant it doesnt exist 😄

[lone wedge]

Heresy!

Raaah super sp!!!

[lone wedge]

No Linux no buy imo for a pocketable

Exceptions include the super sp!!!!!!!

[tough agate]

yeah, that would be awesome

[lone wedge]

That's how it is

The screens are the same width

3'2 is simply taller

Actually those are some big bezels

[tough agate]

the psp shell could technically fit the rgb50 screen right?

[lone wedge]

Cut it out a bit and ya

Cut the start select volume up volume down bright up bright down

[stiff solar]

the rgb50 is not real

[kindred terrace]

Beware, it is not allowed to call it Vaporware !

[stiff solar]

its just a myth bro

[lone wedge]

Poor fools

It's been a mere 3 months

Touch one fans have been waiting for a year now.

[proven root]

I'll take the red thank you very much

[lone wedge]

Hmm

Appealing

Yellow is ugly ASF why is that always offered who is buying cheese yellow

The buttons aren't labeled?!?!

The buttons ruin black

[brittle nymph]

None of those colors are particularly appealing to me

[silent geode]

For me quite contrary, I like all of them, but yeah red one is the best

[lone wedge]

The retro looking one is good

Bwst

When does this come out powkiddy

[haughty patrol]

transparent black, white and yellow all seem appealing to me

[little maple]

Red

[lone wedge]

From among us???

[kindred terrace]

I offer PK $699 for this

[haughty patrol]

nah, I'm fine with it, go and pay Sakura $13

[umbral silo]

Manifesting at least another leak or announcement to confirm this thing is still going ahead 🙏

[cobalt rose]

between this and the OGU Clear version, which is more janky?

[storm mountain]

[shut cape]

Is this still expected to release? Lol

[kindred terrace]

When do you decide when one of the upcoming handhelds is no longer “upcoming” and what is your opinion on the RGB50?

[pale nest]

So I usually wait until I see someone mention that they’ve received shipping confirmation for their handheld before I consider it truly released and move it out of the upcoming section, with maybe the exception of Anbernic handhelds. As far as I can tell Anbernic starts shipping the devices the same day they are posted for sale on their site, so I’ll move those to the released section as soon as they go on sale.

As for the RGB50, my daily driver EDC handheld is a RGB10X that I love so if they keep the same solid controls as that one, I think it could be a hit. Kinda worrying how long it’s taking them though.

[dense dune]

huh, I did not know rgb10x was a handheld that peeps enjoyed

[pale nest]

I mean it’s just another RK3326 but I do enjoy the larger than normal dpad on it

[shut cape]

It shares the same dpad at the v10

Which people have also mentioned is good

[vapid frigate]

When I was asking if the V10 & the rgb10x had the same d pad, people kept telling me "No. The Rgb10x has aSightly Smaller D Pad than the v10"

I did a RGB30 & v10 d pad swap

[kindred terrace]

Thanks, what has been the longest “upcoming handhelds” you can remember? This is already 2 and a halve month without any updates.

[haughty patrol]

rgb30 and v10 have the same, I upgraded all my rgb30 with v10 d-pads

[pale nest]

Oh man, 2.5 months is nothing compared to something like the Miyoo Flip that was teased for 2+ years. I think the KT-R1 took a long time too

Or the Miyoo P60 that was upcoming so long that it never even released lol

[vapid frigate]

Same

[lone wedge]

Touch one 35 has been a year

[frank idol]

where did you get

[haughty patrol]

just scooped up a few v10 on sale

switched out face buttons on those units that don't had Sakura buttons too

[frank idol]

lmao

i changed the membrane to 353m

is the dpad better also

[haughty patrol]

the 353m membrane switch honestly didn't yield any noticeable result for me, but the v10 d-pad is a huge improvement, probably could have taken off the tape and it would have been fine

[frank idol]

so i wanna buy one

just to swap it out..........

[cobalt rose]

yeah, it's pretty solid. played with a coworker's unit

basically is the rgb10/oga but with slightly better ergo and 4:3 screen

[lone wedge]

Isn't oga s922x

Oh no ogu

Damn 55 bucks

These have a community right

Do they have screen replacements

[cobalt rose]

2 years ago sure. If you get one just put rocknix on it and call it a day

[stiff solar]

good enough for me ngl

[kindred terrace]

I think ayaneo paid powkiddy some money not to release the rg50 until they sold all 300 of their aces.

[wicked cloak]

I would never buy a premium Gba or even gbc device. If it's worth it to you, go for it but it's not for me

[stiff solar]

pow kitty

[shy prawn]

An entire lake was dried up to make that.

[stiff solar]

chatgpt excuses be like:

[lone wedge]

Ye the water simply vanished

[lone wedge]

Log

[proven root]

how can they get log for vaporware

[mighty coral]

log: has not been found. Like the device.

[stiff solar]

whats the purpose of the log file for

i dont even think brotato runs properly on the a133p

[mighty coral]

of course it wont, its just a meme at this point

[lone wedge]

What does the a133p have to do with the a527

It'll likely run like a bit better

[cobalt rose]

brotato is a very very simple game that will run even on the rk3566, but nobody here is thinking reasonably

[silent geode]

But RK3566 is stronger than a133p, but yeah it shouldnt be a problem on a527, seeing how its a stronger chip than RK3566

[cobalt rose]

okay. i'm going to type 'brotato trimui smart pro' into google...

https://youtu.be/PnSR_JjaXXw
look at this. see it's not so hard. my guess is all you need to do is copy the config file or missing library or whatever made it work and you're set

Allwinner is very frankensteined together, so make it a strong assumption that it's software is also frankensteined together. go get your hands dirty before giving up.

[cobalt rose]

f+ logic.

[lone wedge]

lmao nope

ask the port author theres a reason why its marked ultra

physics 2d on a single core

[lone wedge]

not a real pm port

[cobalt rose]

I found this is in the trimui gaming club facebook group.

My pov is if you want to play Brotato, there are methods to play it. If you don't like playing it that way, Running in circles saying it doesn't work seems a bit loony. Think outside the box a bit, m'dude

[lone wedge]

3 fps is unplayable

runs properly isn't slideshow

[mighty coral]

good luck at waves beyond 12-14

[cobalt rose]

this is some dev drama then. I get it now

[mighty coral]

uugh, telegram pirate groups

brother ewww

[cobalt rose]

i feel the same about asmongold politics

[mighty coral]

I would lock him with Hassan in room and sell tickets

at least those 2 would make some value to the world

[proven root]

I kinda know this guy and yea it's a version from the high seas

[wicked gulch]

Rgb50

[lone wedge]

Log

[wicked cloak]

Leg

[lone wedge]

Super log

Log sp

[kindred terrace]

Super log to the moon

[steep lance]

Log - it's big, it's heavy, it's wood, it's better than bad, it's good.

[wicked cloak]

Super leg

[lone wedge]

Leg

[tough agate]

https://tenor.com/view/i'm-a-leg-rick-sanchez-morty-smith-rick-and-morty-i-became-a-leg-gif-15666370544831857039

[silent geode]

https://tenor.com/view/pizzaninjas-pizza-ninjas-cant-walk-sore-legs-leg-day-gif-12436958976693484772

[languid summit]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-nicktoons-nickelodeon-toons-gif-16680604

[cobalt rose]

i'm glad the rgb10max3pro exists. I just wish it had a 3:2 android version, which this could be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4QT2xODqXg

[silent geode]

Does A527 run ps2 games close to Amlogic A311D performance?

[cobalt rose]

nope

[kindred terrace]

Big Log

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FxSsol3Zd7k

[lone wedge]

What

Oh c'mon it's a 480p

[wicked cloak]

Dang it

It's 720p minimum, how do you fumble that?

[little maple]

It's 854 from left to right

[umbral silo]

This isn't gonna release in any of our lifetimes is it 😔

[keen basalt]

At least it’ll drop before the #1355566042830864494

[compact escarp]

At least it's still likely it'll release before GTA VI does

[near field]

great screen for gba tbh

[peak dawn]

Where did powkitty disappear

[umbral silo]

We need another leak 😔

[modern saddle]

I really like the shape of this bad boy

[lone wedge]

how thic k is this

im 3d printin it foor pocketability test

[keen basalt]

we dont know

[lone wedge]

i'll print it psp height

[keen basalt]

[kindred terrace]

For this we have chatgtp @lone wedge

[keen basalt]

@acoustic rover man you gotta feed these poor pigeons some bread crumbs.

Something.
Literally anything..

[kindred terrace]

I am not sure about that

What chatgp says I mean

17 x 8 ktr1

17,6 x 8,25 ace

19,9 x 10,5 rgb50

CHATGTP IS FULL OF BULLSHIT

[wicked cloak]

Lol

[lone wedge]

Nah I'll use display wars

I got length and width

I just need the size of each pixel in real life

Why would you use an llm for math

[proud ore]

You just figured that out

[lone wedge]

I despise anti aliasing

[compact escarp]

And stuff like this is why I refuse to use that; I'm afraid of getting the wrong info

[lone wedge]

But what if Google lied to you🤔

[storm mountain]

[acoustic rover]

Sorry. I am only going to post when they give me information.

I typically don't do speculation unless there's a really good reason for it

[tough agate]

I believe this isn't vaporware

but powkiddy is probably focusing on the v90s rn

[keen basalt]

All good

[wicked cloak]

Chatgpt should be able to do math if you have all of the right numbers. Numbers should be the one thing it's good at.

Also it's good at spitting information you give it back at you which is useful in certain like summarizing a large body text or straight up proofreading your own writing.

A lot of proofreading programs have Ai built in. While I was in college they'd give us a free Grammarly account which is marketed as having Ai

[noble cloak]

I'm not sure about that. It's just crunching a huge bunch of data to figure which word comes next. Math ... Doesn't really work well with that approach.

[wicked cloak]

To be fair, there's already a device that runs on less processing power and does math 100% correct. The calculator

You'd think Ai would be better than that

[cobalt rose]

https://time.com/7295195/ai-chatgpt-google-learning-school/

welcome to the sludgebrain universe where an entire generation has bad reasoning skills.You ever wonder why current newbs are a whole world more frustrating now than newbs from 10+ years ago?

using ai physically breaks satisfaction and happiness, which damages memory acquisition and learning.

[wicked cloak]

Ai isn't really a net negative, it's the people who solely use it to accomplish everything.

I've used it for research before. I just tell it to link me to websites based on certain subjects.

It's like an academic search engine but you talk to it like a person

If you already have the skills for research and problem solving Ai can help with that. If you don't have those skills at all then it's easy to get misled by it

[cobalt rose]

the problem is generational though. you came from a background of researching and problem-solving without ai and progressed into this system, so you already have a sense of what is and isn't a pitfall. within 10 years, we'll have people who only know how to reason with ai-assistence

[lone wedge]

But it isn't good at numbers

Not to any extent

Although that's like getting mad at a calculator because it can't write an essay

[wicked cloak]

Still doesn't make what I said wrong.

There was a point in history when people thought books were making us dumber because they thought you were supposed to memorize everything.

It's up to the people who understand Ai to teach people how to use it so they don't fall into the trap of blindly trusting it

[cobalt rose]

there are still people who think books make you dumber, which is the silly thing.

But there is a good point in that teachers will appear to get rid of blind trust in ai, just like there are teachers to tell you not to blindly trust, let's say, Ayn Rand.

[wicked cloak]

Personally I feel like there should be a class on Ai, misinformation and tech literacy in general. Especially in high school, maybe earlier

[haughty patrol]

don't trust Wikipedia kids

[compact escarp]

Yeah, agreed

[wicked cloak]

Lol, Wikipedia is more reliable than your old teachers gave it credit for

Not anyone can just change things

[tender blaze]

well... only if the article is popular and shielded.

[wicked cloak]

Pretty much

Which is most important stuff or at least hopefully it's all of the important stuff

[lone wedge]

A ton of important stuff does have misinformation that is challenged in the source for the misinformation which is crazy to me

[kindred terrace]

I have proven that chat gtp sucks

[wicked cloak]

You did one test, it's not a net negative

[kindred terrace]

It is telling me that the 2 blue parts together are 66% compared to the 100% red part

Even though i asked it twice

Every mongol with an iq of 50 can tell that those two blue lines are no more than 20% of the red line

[lone wedge]

Again, calculator essay

Chatgpt is blind

[wicked gulch]

What a mostly useless tool lmao

[tender blaze]

THey are first and foremost language models, not math models.

[wicked cloak]

I mentioned my uses for it, math is low on the list. I'd still go to an actual calculator

Plus I'm pretty sure there are Ai models trained in numbers. Either that or there's some actively being trained to solve complex equations

https://www.caltech.edu/about/news/ai-program-plays-the-long-game-to-solve-decades-old-math-problems#:~:text=The use of AI to,high-school level math competition.

[proven root]

AI is a tool and everyone who thinks otherwise are too.

[lone wedge]

is that part of the screen or not part of the screen

the different color bit in the middle

oh do i hate antialiasing

[tough agate]

cmon guys, it's not that hard, it's the same size as the ktr1

literally

[lone wedge]

im 3d printing it for a pocketability test

i dont got a ktr1

[kindred terrace]

It is 17,2 cm x 8,1 cm

That is in between ktr1 and ayneo ace

Use that

[lone wedge]

Oh no I'll be using the display wars screen measurement

And fusion point to point

[near field]

Why are people talking about chatgpt in here. It lost a game of chess to a 2600 on beginner

[proven root]

I really like my red RGB50

[little maple]

You don't have one of these

[proven root]

I do?

sorry wrong image

[haughty patrol]

there is a red TSP?!

[orchid shore]

that thumb must be painful

[little maple]

Why is it red

[proven root]

because i like red

[vapid frigate]

Wait, did you actually get a RGB50!?!??! Lucky duck......

[tough agate]

i think that's ai

[proven root]

Haters will say this is AI

[lone wedge]

log

[vapid frigate]

How much longer for the #1372840334031327334

Feel like those will come out b4 this

[proven root]

I honestly don't know when they sent those they said it's coming soon

Usually it's 2-3 months after

[vapid frigate]

So we are still on ....

https://tenor.com/view/winterz-soon-gif-19096204

[vapid frigate]

The answer is 5/16/2025. So latest should be 8/16/2025. Or 16/08/2025, for the Non USA people

[kindred terrace]

My RGB50

[tough agate]

I hope you will personally grafity that on my unit's back

[proven root]

FAKE!

[lone wedge]

i hate fusion

friendship ended with blender

now fusion is my best friend

but i ended by frienship with fusion so im friendless

crashes every ten minutes

[lone wedge]

lost my sketch of the rgb50

[ivory kettle]

Yeah, real ones know about and still use photoshop.

Only fakers use AI.

[wicked cloak]

Or you can use both

[lone wedge]

Those who are by definition faking something are actually real ones

[vapid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/math-calculate-confusing-figure-out-gif-6237717

[proud ore]

I actually hate that I have to 2nd guess every image I see now , I can see why some hate it with a passion

[lone wedge]

I hate Photoshop for that reason too

???

[frank idol]

inside scoop. Reveal date 31 June 2025

[lone wedge]

Not like I'm buying anything in the meantime

Super SP trains patience

[frank idol]

i really want to buy a new handheld

RGB30 is annoying me

it is my fav device but the charging quirks is starting to really annoy me

[tough agate]

wait, is this actually not gonna play the whole psp library?

[wicked cloak]

Maybe not, but more than the Rk3566

So maybe we can fill in the gaps with Cfw and hacks

[tough agate]

that's pretty dissapointing but I guess as long as ps1 is gonna run fine I'll be okay

after all we are looking at like a 60 dollar device right?

[wicked cloak]

$80, but take it with a grain of salt. I'm going off of devices with similar specs

To be fair, it's not even possible to play all of Ps2 on android yet.

The rk3566 might be able to play 70% of the Psp library if I remember correctly. If the a527 is better than that then this is a big step for the lower-end market

It might be to the point where most people won't notice the limitations

[tough agate]

If the trimui smart pro is able to be 56 dollars why can't the rgb50 pull that off?

65 dollars for example is reasonable imo

accourding to magicx the a527 isn't actually that far in terms of preformance from the a133p

[wicked cloak]

Does that mean the A133P is above the rk3566 in performance?

I thought it was the best Linux chipset in these handhelds?

[silent geode]

Nope, its similar performance (slightly worse), just with higher temperatures and without 32bit support on linux. a527 is better than both but not by much

[lone wedge]

Obv when the vertical scale on the graph is like that

Compared to a much better chip it'll look near the same

[silent geode]

The issue with a527 is that its single core performance is almost the same as rk3566 and it is what matters the most in emulation

But yeah anyway it should be better than both a133p and RK3566, but nothing revolutionary the difference seems to closer to what rk3566 is to h700 and h700 to rk3326.

[frank idol]

4.5x gba

thats all i want this for

tempted to annoy jdewitz for more info.
(i know he will release info as it comes, but also please know i will not actually do this)

[haughty patrol]

just buy the ACE

[lone wedge]

It's what matters the most to log

[wicked cloak]

That's two different price brackets.

Possible $80 budget device VS $300 high end device

[haughty patrol]

mine should come tomorrow or the day after tomorrow

[lone wedge]

One of them runs brotato😭

Oh wait I can't buy this

This is worthless to me

No brotato

[wicked cloak]

Lol

[cobalt rose]

it's already known what the a527 can do because of the Helegaly Pi and E6Max

single core performance isn't even that big of an issue due to how linux and android thread instructions. The problem universally is the system and ram bottleneck, which can and will cause the cpu to overheat if not cooled properly

[lone wedge]

Log

Single core is essential for log

[cobalt rose]

people continue to filter this information out, which is going to start biting newbs hard once they get these devices

[frank idol]

ace?

what ace

[cobalt rose]

you're new. it was an rk3588 handheld released by Gameforce

bankrupted the developer

[frank idol]

oh that ace

i thought it was a new ace im not aware of

there was an RG ace rumored around for a bit

[wicked cloak]

Oh

[frank idol]

and i was like is this another ace

[wicked cloak]

I thought it was the Pocket Ace too

[frank idol]

339 for pocket ace???

f that

[cobalt rose]

mangmi is very quickly becoming the allstar device

especially if it gets linux support

[tiny sun]

actually the difference is pretty impressive, specially with more RAM

[lone wedge]

Only if

[tiny sun]

it's a new chip, hopefully people at linux-sunxi will get mainline working eventually...

[lone wedge]

Snapdragon 662 new

[compact escarp]

Hoping so too

[lone wedge]

If it's Linux mangmi accidentally unleashed the real next Linux handhelds blah blah blah blah

[silent geode]

Is there any A527 device with more ram? Or did you test it on tablet?

[tough agate]

if this thing is 70 bucks I'm gonna be okay with whatever specs limitations it has

should run 2d games and that's about all I demand

100% n64 library and psp would be nice since it has those mandatory powkiddy analog sticks but I'm not gonna lose any sleep on it

[tiny sun]

the e6 max has 4gb

[silent geode]

Do you have the device?

[tiny sun]

I do 👀
and if you check #1374269663432675360 you'll see me ranting profusely about it lol

mine came with a bad screen or screen connector - not sure yet
And the android build is really lacking

but the potential is definitely there

ops, forgot to tag the reply @silent geode

[cobalt rose]

I had one for a few months. Ban has it now.

if you need to browse 30+ videos to see what the a527 can do, feel free.

https://youtu.be/VRasxw2L7Bw?list=PLBEU9qUJhFIQdBPgn-hO-pIuYPfpO5UC3&t=16
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBEU9qUJhFIQdBPgn-hO-pIuYPfpO5UC3

the whole point of making these videos is to test against the huge amount of "benchmarks say it is bad, so i believe it will be bad" armchair arguments. It's actually a pretty good soc, and performs at s922x/a311d levels.

[tough agate]

MagicX claims it's not really much of an upgrade over the A133P

[cobalt rose]

this is where I want to ask MagicX "can the A133P play Super Mario 3d Land?" and when they leave chat, assume they're just spewing garbage to sell a133p devices.

[tough agate]

looks laggy and stuttery

[cobalt rose]

i guarrantee the a133p with its 768kb of cpu cache will be 2-3 times laggier than the bigger 2.2mb cache a527

it's black and white though with that mindset. If its 90% there, it's as bad as being 30% there in terms of emulation.

[proven root]

The H700 isn't really much of an upgrade to the RK3326
The A133P isn't really much of an upgrade to the H700
The RK3566 isn't really much of an upgrade to the A133P
The A527 isn't really much of an upgrade to the RK3566

and yet here we are...

The A527 is still a significant upgrade to the RK3326

[dense dune]

I guess the problem peeps have with this new chip is it still doesn't really bring full coverage for the systems that struggled on rk3566/h700/a133p

n64, psp, etc

[cobalt rose]

a lot of it comes down to mental work. This is entertainment, so buyers aren't expected to calculate incremental output. Doing so makes the product experience bad. Whatever of those four soc's you choose, basic users are going to be upset

[proven root]

yea they want snapdragon performance on this budget 🤣

[cobalt rose]

it's the N64 World Cup '98 paradox. The game only runs perfectly on fpga and n64. It begins to run close to perfect at the t820 chipset, but can sustain full speed with variable framerate starting at the allwinner a527 and amlogic a311d. The problem is end-users expect n64 and fpga -all the time-

[proven root]

They always forget it's emulation xD

[cobalt rose]

yeah

[dense dune]

personally speaking I really don't think I'm asking for much for that kind of coverage at a $100 budget

[proven root]

I'll get a $100 phone instead

[dense dune]

what I'm saying is budget chips with A7X performance cores are moreso worth looking forward to than the A53/A55s we've seen up to now

[cobalt rose]

lol thats why i gave my e6 max to ban to play with

it's -great- as a tablet soc for casual stuff. Notsomuch for dedicated gaming. You can find the Teclast version for like... 50usd?

[silent geode]

I confirm its quite a bit more laggy on rk3566, but I wouldnt call it a massive upgrade tbh

[tough agate]

exactly

[tough agate]

We don't even know the price yet

we had the rp2s which I believe fully covered the psp library for example, and that was like what? 90 dollars?

[silent geode]

To be honest I believe s922x/a311d also were quite a bit stronger than A527 😛 they also cover full PSP library and also play some of Gamecube and PS2

depends on a price if its cheap than still it will be pretty good upgrade, but I hope they wont have a stupid idea to sell it at $100 or more

I could see it as quite a nice replacement of rg40xxH 😉

[tough agate]

eehh, I think it's more of a replacement for the trimui smart pro instead

the tsp could have been 3:2 and no value would be lost since it's not a psp capable machine

[cobalt rose]

this sbc also has the same problem as the rk3588, where it cannot sleep cores properly. it has to be turned fully off to keep from draining itself to death in a few hours

[tough agate]

With enough optimization it shouldn't be that bad. My dsi xl boots up in like 5 seconds from fully powered off state.

[cobalt rose]

tried forcing cores to sleep with a script, and it made the kernel freeze and require a battery unplug. rip, BSP-jank

The good thing about the s922x/a311d is they have minimum clocks of 80mhz, so broken sleep isn't horrible? Core affinity was openly controllable though

[lone wedge]

Jeez why so cynical? they're saying this because this really isn't that much of a jump, and that the new allwinner soc they're using for the 5 inch 720 xu device is a big jump.

[keen basalt]

We want perfect mgba and usb-c charging

Performance peeps can look at upcoming low end Android handhelds

Until something new and shiny for Linux drops

[near nova]

Unisoc t157 needs to be used

[tiny sun]

pretty sure it covers 100% PSP very well, didn't find anything I couldn't run with it after adjusting governors

[slow dock]

is this a Dead product like the powkiddy rgb10 max 4

[frank idol]

this is more likely alive than max4 tbh

[noble cloak]

Something tells me they do get unstable if downclocked though and so JELOS and now ROCKNIX disabled the lower frequencies.

Core parking works totally fine though at least.

[dense dune]

so every game runs well? that's a nice surprise

[cobalt rose]

just remember it's emulation. if you see dips, don't bloody panic

[tiny sun]

so far, for me, yes!
if you want I can try to test a specific game

[cobalt rose]

"Oh no my heckin Outrun 2006 isn't perfect 60"
yeah don't do that

that said, how do you guys get Moonlight/Sunshine running? do you do "sunshine --creds user pass" and then log in with that once your device connects?

nevermind. that resets the password. you have to run sunshine.exe again to start

[dense dune]

a few I thought of, Dante's Inferno, Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2, Motorstorm Arctic Edge, Star Wars The Force Unleashed

[wraith fulcrum]

If you're upgrading from JZ4770, A527 will freaking blow your mind

We're in the future, folks

[cobalt rose]

hrm. moonlight should be amazing on this if you have an old laptop or nuc box that's 5th gen intel or higher to tuck away in a corner.

[tough agate]

emulation can be perfect though for most old systems

I'm not gonna fuss over the gameplay being like 40 fps if there are no slowdowns

but if there are slowdowns, audio cracking and visual glitches

you bet I wont be satisfied

[cobalt rose]

with the completeness of sunshine/moonlight and how cheap a decent emulation box can be found for, seems kinda fine to not be able to handle -everything-

[compact escarp]

Test Drive Unlimited?

[wraith fulcrum]

Would be funny if the low-end special olympics evolved to "this can stream PSP so it plays PSP perfectly, can't complain"

[cobalt rose]

I adored anbernic showing wukong running on the 34xx sp

[wicked cloak]

Lol

[frank idol]

Do we have an indicator of how strong this chip is?

[proven root]

yea #1342191309959463027
#1374269663432675360

[tender blaze]

azahar's recent updates have a bunch of perf improvements

[cobalt rose]

i haven't checked in a bit. been using lime3ds more for compatibility reasons. I still use azahar more on t618

there are some games that no matter how i rip/convert them, they don't work in azahar. they aren't very difficult-to-run games, so citra and lime are fine enough

[frank idol]

but the chip isnt confirmed right?

[cobalt rose]

jdewitz, powkiddy's media dude comfirmed it weeks ago

they're just stuck in endless test loops and design revisions, much like the Helegaly Pi

[frank idol]

so

this is PSP DEVICE?????????????????????????????

[cobalt rose]

ilch...

[frank idol]

wait where

[cobalt rose]

way back in march, shortly after this was posted. scroll up in chat.
https://retrohandhelds.gg/powkiddy-rgb50-leaked-a-32-plastic-rg405m-running-android-and-linux/

something something "you really shouldn't use the battery as a heatsink this time bro" followed by -radio silence- from powkiddy

[frank idol]

yea its not in the chat that i can see

all i see is that he was saying what its not

[cobalt rose]

@kindred terrace is it or is it not an a527, just for the sake of randos

you posted a lot of pictures and jdewitz actually posted internals at some point

[kindred terrace]

I think it is nothing. We only saw a few photos and then nothing, for months. They tried it. Run into trouble and thought: let’s do something else. If you want a 3:2 4,5 inch KTR1 and AyaNeo Ace are the ony options.

[frank idol]

so you told me it was confirmed when it isnt?

[proven root]

The Pi is releasing

[frank idol]

it appears to be already available for purchase ont he site

[proven root]

someone already tried but they're still testing the site. Official announcement was July5-10

[naive solstice]

Hopefully it releases because this screen ratio and size is kind of fantastic for everything.

[haughty patrol]

totally cancelled at this point

[tough agate]

Well we don't know for sure

there is a big possibility this could come out

[storm mountain]

[wraith fulcrum]

Oh. Potentially good news if they moved on from A527

That is, if they don't abandon the device altogether (I really like the original design they showed)

[cobalt rose]

Its just like the rgb10max4. First little bit of info, then nothing

I messaged someone on the inside saying they should just slap a t820 in it, give the cpu/ram the same heatsink/vent as the 10max3pro, and preload it with es-de

[silent geode]

t820 or G99 (in case Anbernic bought all T820s) would be awesome

probably and realistically G99 should be cheaper

[cobalt rose]

Its doesn't need much. Even an sd765g would work for the price

[vapid frigate]

Even if they go backwards and just throw a rk3566 in there. Don't let this device die....

Would Perfer that g99 tho for sure, 6gb Ram + 128gb internal. Would be awesome

[near field]

I would love if they did the max4pro

Best shell in handhelds

[lone wedge]

Wait

Real ones wait

Exercise patience

[cobalt rose]

use direct action

[tough agate]

I don't think powkiddy has ever used anything stronger than t618

[cobalt rose]

The x28 is still a good handheld aside from being as large as the rg556
it's designed for easy playstore/winlator gaming

[tough agate]

also If the rgb50 was t820 than it wouldn't be 70 dollars

[cobalt rose]

the problem is they want to grasp 6th gen, but with a super low budget

[tough agate]

nah, rgb50 will be a 5th gen console

and may even struggle with some of it

[cobalt rose]

alwinner is off the table, rockchip frustrates their engineers, and they can't afford to do any huge software development.

[tough agate]

why is allwinner off the table?

wasn't it basically confirmed to be a527?

[cobalt rose]

it was, but internal tests made them hault release

much like the rgb10max4

[cobalt rose]

imagine you design a handheld without testing the thermals, and then like... all of your test units start shutting down or catching on fire when you do the burn-in.

do you release it anyways, because the fanboys tell you to?

[shut cape]

Is this not considered vaporware yet

[proven root]

from what psidozer is saying it is now

[cobalt rose]

smokeware

[proven root]

Then go with a chip that already has working software

Like 3588/3576

[cobalt rose]

Powkiddy could also just do what they do best and steal a whole sbc layout and rebrand it.

Like do a version of the KTR1 using the G95 or G90T

[near nova]

Unisoc t157 is hidden gem

[dense dune]

not the first time in the handheld space lol

[cobalt rose]

helegaly pi uses the battery as a heatsink. a portion of owners will witness it explode probably

[proven root]

Like RG35XXSP explosions?

[cobalt rose]

those were all dumb though. yeah, the device shoudn't explode in general, but...

they were all incidents like "i used my 65w laptop fast charger" or "i sat it down in sleep mode in a 100f garage and walked away for hours to do housework"

[lone wedge]

yes

[tender blaze]

I would never buy anything that can't negotiate usb-c pd

[tough agate]

Just put an a133p in there idc

It's a trimui smart pro competitor anyway

[proven root]

#1352609273280073739 message

[lone wedge]

unacceptable

such a screen wasted

no log

[wicked cloak]

It's a 3:2, it wouldn't be wasted

It just just needs to be good at Gba

[lone wedge]

6.5x🤮

[tough agate]

Me when my 8k display scales pico8 as 33.8x (completely unplayable uneven scaling mess)

[lone wedge]

8k is good

approved

3x 1440p

[tough agate]

but it's like so bad for pico8

it doesn't integerscale

🤢

[wicked cloak]

Sometimes I'm glad that I didn't grow up with a lot of these games. I can enjoy these games on almost any screen.

It just can't be too squished or stretched and the colors should look nice

Other than that I don't look too close to notice slightly off pixels

[kindred terrace]

Here is the latest update

[lone wedge]

neither did i

except for the wii i guess

but i don't remember what that looked like so

And i can't enjoy without integers

[cobalt rose]

that's a tiny thing to get hung up on

this makes me want to sacrifice my e6plus to the newb gods and get an x28

[lone wedge]

yes i do get hung up over 3.99x if it happens

like 1088p vs 1080p

[wicked cloak]

I love my RG505, it doesn't really scale well for anything but psp.

I never really notice any imperfections with other systems

[cobalt rose]

i had a 505 but the l2/r2 gave me cramps when using it as a pc controller. the 405v is a bit better

[lone wedge]

Perfect screen

For PSP I absolutely despise it otherwise

1440p😍

[wicked cloak]

The screen is made for Psp, also it's not 1440p it's 544p

[cobalt rose]

lynx and gba are good on it too

[wicked cloak]

I can see the unique aspect ratio bothering some people but like I said I don't notice

[cobalt rose]

i just don't particularly value perfection so long as i'm emulating. the Cube is an exception. only certain aspect ratios and emulators properly support or look okay in 1:1

[wicked cloak]

I feel that

[cobalt rose]

8:7 stuff(snes) looks perfect. gb, gbc, and game gear is 10:9, so that looks better. screenhacked gamecube has a cozy 1:1 appearance as well, but everything else suffers

[wicked cloak]

Fair, I don't care about black bars so widescreen everything. Everything fits on the screen, no stretching no squishing.

Plus I emulate on my TV, my laptop and my phone, all widescreen so I'm used to it

[lone wedge]

What did I say that contradicted that

[lone wedge]

Stretching is horrible

[wicked cloak]

I don't stretch

I do like widescreen hacks though

Makes everything look like a remaster

[tiny sun]

I really liked widescreen hacks on the cube's 1:1 screen

[cobalt rose]

ps2 ws hacks don't work though. it's specifically gamecube and wii tallscreen hacks

[lone wedge]

I cannot comment

[cobalt rose]

actually i need to revise my statement. tallscreen DOES work on gta3 and gta:vc for ps2. it's a per-game thing

[cobalt rose]

can you install moonlight and play some Left4Dead 2 on it?

[frank idol]

No

Now tell me

[storm mountain]

Yes and some Crysis @ 1080P

[lone wedge]

what

[frank idol]

tell me release date

[lone wedge]

right before the super sp

[frank idol]

Super so?

Sp?

[lone wedge]

I'm not sure why I wrote that long winded explanation no one will want it

[vapid frigate]

The Magic X 1440 P Dual Screen device that will never release because they keep delaying their current release schedule

[frank idol]

So

If that's the case

Rgb50 when

[vapid frigate]

If I had to Guess, PK is waiting for the Helegaly Action Pi to release. Then they are gonna piggy back off their device for Support

I think they both were using the a527

[cobalt rose]

That too. Powkiddy doesn't do their own software development

Remember, They lifted the screen mapper from the gpd xd and xd+ for the x18 and x18s

[lone wedge]

No my log

Cursed Linux build

[lone wedge]

Actually it hasn't been announced and we don't know their plans after the tz and tone

I believe the xu is actually literally coming out like next month

So that's what they've been doing

[lone wedge]

The flip is confirmed they had a 3d print or whatever

But we aren't sure if it's single or dual

[vapid frigate]

Lies!!!!! Delayed for 30 days because you said something. Ground hog saw it's Shadow, 30 more day delay. It's raining outside, 30 day delay extra now

[steep lance]

actually it’s been out for a month but we conspired to hide it from you— I feel bad we did that. It will take a few months to unhide everything . . .

[vapid frigate]

Magic X in a Nut Shell

They trying their best, but its hard when you are small

[kindred terrace]

I wanna bet that this thing will not be released in Q2 2025. Anyone wanna bet against me?

[near nova]

That's a Fool's bet since there's only a few hours left in the quarter

[kindred terrace]

Actually i wanna bet $100 that it won’t be released in Q3 either. Anyone wanna have a free RGB50 paid by me?

[storm mountain]

Thanks, but no thanks

[wicked cloak]

That's a joke right?

[cobalt rose]

Sure. Ill give you 15 random videos of games played on it

[lone wedge]

maybe i'll recompile log for android isntead of using portmaster

[kindred terrace]

90 days left to release it in Q3. I am gonna start countdown 1 day for the next 3 months each day.

[compact escarp]

Found this tidbit on the status of mainlining the A527 recently... gonna be a while

[lone wedge]

Does a device have to be mainlined or a chip?

The SD 662 in the mangmi air x is apparently mainlined does this mean anything for the community?

[cobalt rose]

It means if a dev wants to, they can -begin- giving it a Linux firmware

[wraith fulcrum]

I think (correct me if I'm wrong) it mostly matters if there's no BSP available for the device from the vendor

Like RK3326 and RK3566 CFWs didn't move to mainline kernel for at least a year

A lot of H700 firmwares are still not on mainline

On the other hand there are firmwares that simply won't touch a device if it's not mainlined even if there is a BSP — Rocknix and Batocera come to mind

[primal wagon]

BSP locks you at a specific kernel version (and possibly feature set). Being mainlined means I can build any available feature.

Yeah rocknix build process compiles the kernel with all kinds of useful features

So for example knulli can't enable zram swap on a133

And my usb Ethernet adapter only has drivers on rocknix

[wraith fulcrum]

Sure, I'm just saying that in practice mainlining is not the only way for CFWs to happen. And if you currently own a Linux device, chances are that you're not using a mainline kernel

RG552 was IIRC kind of a highlight of what a mainline kernel does to a device, because there were noticeable performance gains there

Oh, and also it would seem a whole device needs to be mainlined

Like I think Arc got some issues with CFWs because it had a display that no other RK3566 device had at the time

[compact escarp]

Yep

[quasi vortex]

Source?

Apparently it's the SD660 that's mainlined

Not the 662

[lone wedge]

I mean it was in some article

Why'd you change your pfp I couldn't identify you as a knowledgeable person

[kindred terrace]

89 days left to release it in Q3.

[kindred terrace]

88 days left to release it in Q3.

[storm mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/desert-dry-tumbleweed-roll-dust-gif-5348866

[steep lance]

I heard the release would be in Q5 on December 34th.

[kindred terrace]

87 days left to release in Q3.

[cobalt rose]

@acoustic rover 2 year old cooling tech if powkiddy projects are overheating.
https://youtu.be/WibczqINifA
https://youtu.be/OR8u__Hcb3k

any chance of getting a single airjet into the rbg10max4 and rebooting the whole rk3588 thing? maybe some chamber cooling for the rgb50?

[kindred terrace]

85 days left to release in Q3.

[tough agate]

what will happen in Q3?

[wraith fulcrum]

I think it's just a joke

[lone wedge]

this screen, rk3599

88

[storm mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/nuthin-nothing-smokey-friday-chris-tucker-gif-14879979942224756554

[kindred terrace]

83 days left in Q3

[cobalt rose]

i don't think powkiddy is planning to do anything.

come to think of it, a lot of their official storefront is gutted and empty now. Looks like they're dumping all stock.

[vapid frigate]

They just released the V90S, I wonder if they are trying to clear old stock then sell more

[keen basalt]

i don't think powkiddy is planning to do anything.

[storm mountain]

Half-Life 3 will come before this one!

[slow dock]

is powkiddy done? their website dont show any handhelds

[kindred terrace]

Yep, they’re dead, only a few v90s in stock

Finished

Over and out

Only 313 left

[wicked cloak]

Powkiddy is on vacation, there was a post on Reddit about it

[vapid frigate]

PK will be back on the 20th

[kindred terrace]

Did he take his wife and kids with him on holiday and all his handhelds?

[frank idol]

How dare they go on break!!! If they have time to go break they have time to make 3588 device!!!!

(this is a joke I do not mean that)

[lone wedge]

Cmon if it's rk3588 I'll ditch the xu40

[lone wedge]

I 3d printed the xu40 should I do this

Does anyone want to see this next to a psp

[storm mountain]

Heard from a source: lots of people have been fired from PowKiddy, so ...

[storm mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-coffin-meme-rip-gif-16909625

[vapid frigate]

PowKiddy is on Vacation til July 20th

[storm mountain]

Sure, if you believe that!

I've heard something else, but yeah life goes on!

[vapid frigate]

I wanna Believe Battle XP was a Higher quality than PowKiddy devices. So that debunks that theory of Anbernic owns both companies 🤣

[storm mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/for-sure-okay-then-well-hmmm-confused-gif-14102923

[vapid frigate]

Someone was spreading a stupid theory Pow Kiddy was the junk company of Anbernic

[kindred terrace]

All these companies have one owner….

[near field]

Yeah I’m sure he has time to design handhelds between meetings

[dense dune]

no harm in just waiting like we always have. at least until July 20th. patience peeps

[slow dock]

Is this True or a joke? If you're lying you should be permanently banned 😂

[dense dune]

I can get behind that

[near field]

we'll find out in 8 days

[lone wedge]

Find his home

[vapid frigate]

After what happened recently with Retroid Rep, that joke isn't funny

[lone wedge]

Recently?

Those were good timesq

[silent geode]

All is good now, he never really quit Retroid and the owner also didnt have ti take mortgage

But I hope @storm mountain is joking about Powkiddy, especially because they were getting better

[kindred terrace]

Why? There are rumours and he heard a rumour and post it?

I heard a rumour that powkiddy is gonna release a 5 inch 4:3 handheld

It is just a rumour, no one has ever seen anything or any proof that it exists

Are we all gonna be banned when in a few months there still wont be a PK RGB50?

Well, i can tell you it won’t be released in the next 7 days for sure!

[compact escarp]

True, and we're kind of in a rough time where people are getting laid off or fired left and right everywhere

[lone wedge]

Oh wow the bezels

[slow dock]

its okay to crack jokes and hell i hope we all have a good laugh cos we all need to have a dozen of it. Its ok to post rumours but cmon... like why mislead people into believing nonsense. Even rumours need to have credible source. Maybe its just me but im here to read from people like you and others about the daily news happening in the handheld world cos i ordered a handheld few days ago from powkiddy and seeing their website empty is, to say the least, alarming.

also, the banning part was extreme but it was meant to be taken as a joke hence that laughing emoji lol

[kindred terrace]

Yes, much smaller than the non-existing rgb50 bezels

[tough agate]

rgb50 doesn't have big bezzels though

not small, but not big either

[kindred terrace]

Yes, but ktr1 has small bezels

[tough agate]

I think that's an optical illusion cause there are the same exact size

[kindred terrace]

I own a ktr1 and the bezels are very small

The screen is the same but you can hide the bezels underneath the plastics, a matter of design

Powkiddy isnt interested in hiding the bezels

Retroid is

They even hide parts of a screen

[sacred lotus]

is this going to be released this year lol

[compact escarp]

At this rate, if it comes, I'll have to eat another shoe

[storm mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/gohine-hohino-no-hohineee-gohineee-gif-17792172174678204487

[river ether]

https://tenor.com/view/earth-time-pass-gif-9298440535445932845

[jade hound]

It's possible TrimUI is going to beat PowKiddy to it. https://discord.com/channels/741895796315914271/1394504726288269413

[kindred terrace]

Wow, it is a 3:2 screen! Yes!

Rip the powkiddy RGB50

Long live the New King !

[river ether]

Wait the new truimui is 3:2?

Oh ok

[lone wedge]

Did someone mention unsubstantiated rumor mill talk?

Raaaah super sp!!!!

Magicx? The small indie company making the super sp!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dapper steeple]

ok im interested who's feathers do we have to ruffle up to get release details

[slow dock]

ask the idiots who said that powkiddy is going bankrupt or closing down

[kindred terrace]

Soon tm , guys. Soon tm .

[kindred terrace]

https://powkiddy.com/collections/handheld-game-players

POWKIDDY IS BACK ONLINE

[vapid frigate]

How about some Sales & Price Drops PK!?!?!?!

[storm mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/do-something-comeon-stickman-bored-gif-22722853

[tough agate]

I'm it wont release by the end if the year I think we can grow concerned.

[slow dock]

It's been online by June 19th or earlier.

It's nice they're back selling stuff

[compact escarp]

Guess they weren't kidding about the vacation thing

[kindred terrace]

Soom tm , soon tm

[slow dock]

i do wonder where are those people who claimed that powkiddy is shutting down lol

[proud ore]

Working for Anbernic

[acoustic rover]

I have a slight update. PK is not shutting down. There is a process of reviewing what they're putting out though. There's a desire to get away from including ROMs with the devices in the future, given the current atmosphere towards intellectual property. Still waiting for an update on RGB 50 but it's not canceled as far as I know.

[silent geode]

You can tell them that they are making their devices DOA by not including internal wifi chip which would probably increase the costs by $5 😄

[acoustic rover]

I have told them

[keen basalt]

Aye that’s good to know,
see ya again in two months, J!

[slow dock]

powkiddy should also revive the original rgb10. It was such a banger

[haughty patrol]

we have the rgb10x tho

[quasi bridge]

the rgb10 was 3:2 though

[tough agate]

It looks much better than the rg351p imo

tiny bezels make it very aestetically pleasing

but the screen is kinda shit

not even oca laminated

I would dig an rgb10 with a 960x640p screen though

[slow dock]

i would definitely buy every colour of the rgb10 if they released. Original screen or improved

[quasi bridge]

maybe anbernic should use the 34xx screen to make a small candybar

[slow dock]

if only it was possible. Also the rgb10 pro colour was just so beautiful

[quasi bridge]

apart from the bezel being a bit bigger due to how the screen is constructed, i don't see why it wouldn't be possible

[quasi vortex]

** ICYMI: Powkiddy RGB50 confirmed to release as a follow-up device to Miyoo's P60**

[kindred terrace]

https://retrohandhelds.gg/powkiddy-rgb50-leaked-a-32-plastic-rg405m-running-android-and-linux/

4months ago , soon tm

[lone wedge]

I think I've moved on to the foreign blogger40

Now that is a deal

[frank idol]

p60, never thought i would see this 3 letters/characters again

[lone wedge]

P60

P60

P6

P60

There you go

[grand ore]

The R36S killed Powkiddy

[proven root]

I mean the rgb20s has been a best seller for months before the r35s came

then the r35s disappeared for a few months too because of pk

[grand ore]

Powkiddy was king of budget. Then R36s came along and stole their thunder.

Its the automatic go to for budget handhelds. Especially for people living in 3rd and 2nd tier countries.

In fact during my trip to China I saw a ton of R36s and barely any Powkiddy devices being sold in stores.

[lone wedge]

Why do drop shippers love it so much

I guess it's two sticks cheap gameboy style

Checks all the boxed

[grand ore]

Cause R36s has no labels or brands. If people know the brand, they can google and find out the real price and buy it somewhere else lol

They even tried to hide Powkiddy's name whenever drop shippers were selling the rgb20s. They would tittle it some generic retro handheld game console. Not the official name like rgb20s or R36s etc

[lone wedge]

Just googling r36s gives you the price and reddit links. All the ads have unedited boxes

[grand ore]

I think you underestimate people's stupidity. If everyone was smart, then these dropshippers wouldn't be making a ton of money charging 2x the official prices

[lone wedge]

No I'm just saying your reason is illogical

[gloomy trench]

Anyone know how much this will be priced?

[tough agate]

We don't know, but my estimation is around 70-80 dollars

[frank idol]

probably need a bit more confirmation first

[acoustic rover]

Still soon™️

[lone wedge]

Just like the xu40

[slow dock]

Companies make more candy bar handhelds. They're basic but they do work for a reason. Rg35xxH is quite comfortable, so is the rgb10x and even the rg505

Xu40 looks beautiful in it's form factor
Just like the rgb10max or the OGU

[vapid frigate]

They are more ergonomic, easy to make, everything is probably easier to fit in there with less compromises......

They have a familiar, Switch Lite/Ps Vita/PsP ascetic

[kindred terrace]

My favorite Smiths Song

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hnpILIIo9ek

😉

[quasi vortex]

Like i said it's releasing as a followup to the miyoo p60

[storm mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/burying-dying-dead-grave-gif-17189345

[compact escarp]

At the rate things are going, the world will have actually gotten saner when the RGB50 comes out

[wraith fulcrum]

I think Tone 35 will be in-between the two

[wraith fulcrum]

5:3 IIRC

But yeah, Tone is kinda smaller P60 we never got

[kindred terrace]

No RGB50 news today

[tough agate]

No RGB50 news tomorrow

[mighty coral]

No RGB50 news the day after tomorrow

[vapid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/day-after-tomorrow-tsunami-gif-9744005

Great movie

[kindred terrace]

No RGB50 news today

[lone wedge]

😱😱😱🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯

[tough agate]

why are you even here? this aint 1440p

[lone wedge]

It's 1620 by 1080p which is better than 1920 by 1080p

Also it was an a527

[haughty patrol]

WHAT

[lone wedge]

What kind of man do you think I am

Integer scaling is the only thing that matters

[haughty patrol]

a huffy one

[tough agate]

what does 1620x1080 even integerscale well?

1920x1080 atleast integerscales psp, vita and switch

[lone wedge]

see now

it doesnt do psp or vita

[tough agate]

are you taking about those 2 rows of pixels?

[haughty patrol]

the fun thing is, 1620x1080 scales everything as good or bad as 1920x1080, you are literally just losing 300pixel on the sides

well, 16:9 content gets worse scaling

[lone wedge]

i never liked those pixels anyway

psp 2x

3x

is now no black bars

[haughty patrol]

you drunk?

this is a 3:2 screen

not 4:3

[lone wedge]

psp is 30:17

big boxing 3x psp 1080p

this 1080p is much beter

[haughty patrol]

https://shauninman.com/utils/screens/
literally the KTR1 screen, look how "well" that is for integer scaling, lol

[lone wedge]

every single black bar is smaller than 1920

[ember latch]

@acoustic rover is this true? A mod in a Powkiddy QQ chat group mentioned that Powkiddy is no longer making Linux-based handhelds and is shifting its focus to Android-based systems

If that's true, then the RGB50 will likely be Android-only or switch to a more powerful SOC

Recently, Powkiddy shut down their flagship Tmall online store and change to a normal Taobao online store because they weren't making enough money selling cheap, low-end Linux handhelds. So, I think switching to higher-priced, mid-range Android handhelds make sense to help them earn bigger profit margins

[acoustic rover]

I have no idea.

I've heard other things more related to china's newfound love of copyright enforcement

I don't have a lot of details.

Financially, that might make sense though. However much money they can make with Linux handhelds would be dwarfed by android. Everyone in china knows android.

[tough agate]

Isn't powkiddy like the king of cheap handhelds? Seems weird that they go in a completenother direction.

[near nova]

Powkiddy phone incoming? Lol

[tough agate]

a pokiddy slide handheld could definitely peak my interest

[haughty patrol]

Powkiddy will fail horrible with Android handhelds tho
nobody sane is gonna buy them over the already existing competition
that aside, the only change they made so far is removing the ROM cards from their website

I mean the x28 is quite nicely made, by Powkiddy standards, but the Android is honestly the worst

[tough agate]

powkiddy may be able to fill gaps that people are looking for

like maybe they make a clamshell to rival the rp flip 2, they can draw in people by doing dpad on top

[haughty patrol]

I doubt many would trade off build quality and software over the d-pad being on top tho

also very unlikely that they will use a comparable SoC

[tough agate]

oh hell yeah I would

powkiddy quality comes with powkiddy prices

[haughty patrol]

I doubt it

sure works in the low end segment, but on what planet will Powkiddy be able to make a decent Android device at a low price that ain't total junk

they will have to hire someone to do decent software, which drives the cost up

Android devices are $100+ at least, so people will expect a more decent build quality, which also drives the cost up

it just goes completely against Powkiddys business model, which arguably may be under jeopardy between Anbernics rgXX-line and the whole bunch of r36s devices

[kindred terrace]

The problem for PK is the cheap chinese competition from trimui and especially the R36 handhed company or whatever they are called. Selling a handheld for $30 is only $3 profit. Not much unless you sell a million of them, like they do. (One of) The last 3,5 inch from PK x35h is a fine machine but sold very little. A $40 handheld. Anbernic is trying to get into that higher priced sector.

If the RGB50 is android, they can just put a helio 99 in it and copy the ktr1 and release it next week for $79 !

[orchid shore]

If Android gives them more Chinese buyers good for them. But lol, there's no way in hell I am spending Android handheld money on a powkiddy.

[haughty patrol]

they could find a space in the low end Android market, with G99 devices for $90 or less
but over $100 they won't sell to most of the west

[wraith fulcrum]

Funnily enough, I think none of the three clamshells PK did had build quality issues

Controls could suck, sure, but their hinges seem solid

[tough agate]

wow, you're asking for waay too much

g99 for 80 dollars is definitely not possible

[vapid frigate]

i would take a G99 for $140, since that would put it higher than the zpg a1 unicorn

[haughty patrol]

a G99 can't survive above $100 these days, with all the Anbernic t820 for lil more on the market

sure there are exceptions like the Ayaneo Pocket Micro, but that's an entirely different build quality from Powkiddy and probably ain't selling too many units either

[vapid frigate]

i did not realize how much more powerful the t820 was over the g99

g99 has better battery management

[keen basalt]

Companies can get away with $110-$120 for a G99 including shipping if everything else about the device is solid.

But the truth is, everything with a G99 is kinda jankey, from the K56 to the KTR1

[lone wedge]

why do y'all thuink powkiddy won't shift appropriately

I would def buy an android if the screen was good

and then gamma etc etc

[haughty patrol]

Unicon and Pocket Micro are relatively solid, still also lacks video out compared to t820 devices, while also being less capable of GCN/PS2... so I don't think too many would actually go for a G99 at $120 when you can get a t820 device from $130

I mean certain premium devices aside, the Pocket Micro and RP Classic both are on the G99 or a more or less equivalent SoC and come in more expensive, but respectively they are premium and kinda niche

[keen basalt]

They’re relatively ass

[near field]

I don't think there's anything inherent in powkiddy that prevents them from hiring competent android devs as part of a pivot

[storm mountain]

Don't forget this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh3GESwfjdo

[acoustic rover]

Snapdragons have become competitive by the pallet now. If they are going to android for a while it would be related to that. *(Or likely mediatek. They are super competitive)

I know they wanted to do windows but I don't know if there's any movement on it. Just fyi there as the limit of what I know.

[vapid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/i-appreciate-you-dj-khaled-gif-5352443

[kindred terrace]

I bought a base model ktr1 with g99 for $149 (ex ship) back in 2022 ! Paid in 2022, shipped in 2023. 3 years ago a handheld made by 1 man was 149. Powkiddy can sell 100,000 for $79

[kindred terrace]

There is nothing wrong with the ktri g99, it plays everything up to psp,dreamcast, n64. And quite a bit of gamecube , ps 2 and a few switch games. Not much less than the rg405m. The only bad thing about ktr1 is controls, that is why we need rgb50

[vapid frigate]

I Assumed PK would have better quality than ZPG. I have been wrong b4

The g99 if bought in bulk, I do wonder if that cost could be brought down with 100k+ chips

[ivory kettle]

Eh, not really. PK’s quality can have a couple highpoints (if they have the right manufacturers), but overall I’d say their average is pretty low.

[haughty patrol]

they improved a bit with the Game Consoles around

[vapid frigate]

The RGB30 feels good, but that d pad was poop

[haughty patrol]

yeah, I replaced all my rgb30 d-pads with V10 ones, same size, nicely rounded and a bigger base, so even without the tape-mod you won't get many false diagonals

[near field]

I would welcome cheap n100-tier handhelds for emulation fwiw

PC = a whole world of up to date FOSS emulation software instead of a shit mix of non-compliant arm/mobile forks

[keen basalt]

cheap and X86, name a worse combo

maybe ayn should make one and call it loki zero or smth like that

[near field]

Plus no more portmaster, just run your steam indies natively

[near field]

If that had come out on time and had good software support via bazzite I bet it would’ve been a hit

But it was in dev hell forever and shipped with terrible third party windows utilities

[keen basalt]

I feel like even with the experience they have now they cant make a good cheap x86 handheld

[near field]

Even just ship an n150 or whatever retro handheld with batocera as stock and you’d have a hit

[keen basalt]

for x86 there is a certain threshold of build quality you have to hit

and pairing that with a budget processor is bad value for the consumer and bad profit margins for the company

[keen basalt]

they'd probably make 5 bucks profit per unit if they dont want it to compete with a steamdeck

[tough agate]

Now that I think of it, the alldocube iplay 50 mini pro is like 85 dollars

so it may not be impossible

[haughty patrol]

would totally buy one for ~200bucks

[vapid frigate]

I did the tape mod & v10 d pad. So good

[vapid frigate]

The n100, that was good up until GC right?

[haughty patrol]

it's good enough to do GCN/PS2 just fine

even does most Wii U and a bunch of Switch pretty decently

[near field]

Yeah a 4:3 n100 would be great for retro PC games too

[vapid frigate]

Next big question, how battery efficient is that chip

[storm mountain]

[haughty patrol]

n100 runs on 6watt, so pretty decent...

[vapid frigate]

That LG Wing OLED screen with the n100 chip and like a 6k mAh battery might be good enough for 6 hrs of gaming

Only downside I see is Windows, but just dual Boot into Bazzite or remove it entirely and just jump right into Steam OS

[haughty patrol]

could always also run battocera

[vapid frigate]

That may be a Preference thing, I personally am not a Batocera person. I tried it, was craving my ES immediately

[lone wedge]

yup i second or third or whatever a shitty budget x86

spectacular

6 inch pocketale

[compact escarp]

Agreed, heh

[vapid frigate]

5.5" is stretching what is Pocketable. Even for my Giant Chef pants

[wraith fulcrum]

N-series handheld would likely last about 2 hours playing PS2/GC

Just look at any sublaptop with it

[tough agate]

6 inch clamshells are pocketable though

[vapid frigate]

At least PK knows how to make a Clamshell

[orchid shore]

Portmaster runs things natively.

[tough agate]

Powkiddy X18

[vapid frigate]

If we Port over Bazzite, could we technically still grab Port Master?

[orchid shore]

They are making a Steam Deck version of Portmaster if I remember correctly

It will be different cause x86 versus ARM, most likely not the same list of games, but there will be overlap ofc.

Portmaster does something very well and it's to provide a good toolset to allow to run old games with handheld controls.

Running Native Apotris on SD required lots of manual tweaking for controls until recently, for example.

[tough agate]

Why would you need to run it natively?

[bold parrot]

Less battery drain?

[lone wedge]

apotris doenst use gptk

or at least not on my brick

[tough agate]

Aint no way mgba is draining anyone's battery 😭

[tough agate]

ah hell nah

mgba has no input lag with runahead

audio quality is definitely real though

gba has bad audio quality

and yet it still amazes me how they made it sound so good

no way 2w tdp steamdeck cannot handle 2 frame runahead

I raised my boy better than that

[lone wedge]

Is your child also a garden gnome